Knowledge Fight - #611: October 29, 2021

Episode Date: November 1, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan try to talk about a present day episode, but end up deciding to celebrate Halloween by dipping back to 2002 to discuss a spooky interview Alex did with a guy who is very afraid of witches. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a big fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you. Yes. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan, is it's the spookiest

of all days. We're recording this on Halloween. You can't hear this because you can't see it because we're recording this. It's an audio thing, but I'm in full costume. Oh, yeah. I've dressed as Druid during Sowing. I've been, I went all the way back to the beginning. Yeah. I'm Frankenstein's monster. We're just sitting here. We're just going for it. And it's like, we got together to record this podcast. No one around. Foolish. A lot of wasted effort, but it feels good. You know, it's funny. It was a little bit like a gift to the manjai thing. I told you not to wear a costume and you told me not to wear a costume and then we both showed up in costumes. What a silly thing. Yep. I like, I like Halloween

as much as I like any other holiday. I don't like scary things, but I do. I've always had a real, the audience is not going to be surprised to hear this. A soft spot for candy and it's a candy based holiday and I'm thrilled for that. That's true. I'm excited for tomorrow, the candy to be on sale. Right. And unlike the other candy holiday, Valentine's Day, you don't have to enjoy anyone else's company. There's no expectation. If you want to just turn off your, your porch light, you don't have to worry about anything to anyone. You don't have a responsibility to give these kids candy. You can just keep it all to yourself. When I was growing up, my parents thought Halloween was evil. So we would legit shut

off all of our lights and go into a back room so no one could stop by and trick or treat. Yeah. Yeah. I know that this is well trod territory and probably even a little bit hacky, but I really hated the guy down the street who would like act like a corpse on his porch. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that guy. What's your problem? Yeah. I remember the exact like path to that guy's house from my house. And I like, nah, what would you get out of this? I guess he gets the knowledge that he is a scarred hundreds of children literally to the point where they remember the pathway to his home. Yeah. At age 37 still, still like I got to avoid that fucking house. Fuck that guy. So how about you? What's

your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is I find I recently got the new James Blake album. It came out a few weeks ago. Sure. Fantastic. Great. It might be his best album. I don't know anything about James Blake. I thought you were going to say James Bond. No, James Blake. He's like, he's a British dude who does what you would call like almost a rhythm and dub, you know, like imagine a pure toned, breathy voice over really slowed down dub music. Okay. It's very strange. I'm hearing words. It is really good. It's really good. It's difficult to describe, but it's really good. It sounds interesting, but a lot of the words are using to describe it. I also would need you to define them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me

put it this way. Have you ever heard Send It On by D'Angelo? Sure. Oh my God. It's one of the greatest songs ever made. Of course. Okay. Fine. Never mind. All right. Just listen to the song. Fine. Yeah. Jordan. Today we are checking in on October 29th, 2021. It is, you know, it's Friday's episode from last week. Sure. We're in the present. We thought, hey, let's, let's look into it. It's kind of like me got my arm behind my back here, twist in my arm because I want to have a spooktacular Halloween spooktacular. But here we are in the present day. We'll just have to live with it. But first, let's take a little moment to say hello. It's new. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Dan and Jordan never

mentioned by mailbag gift of green Russian soda. I hope it was still enjoyed. I think it was. I would seem to recall. Sorry about that. Yeah. Sorry. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Your policy wonk. Next, a bill from Toronto. Got a nice message from Bill from Toronto. Turns out he heard about the show from a neighbor, which that's community. That's what we're talking about. I've never considered that a neighbor might give me any recommendations for anything. Especially a weirdo pocket. Yeah, exactly. So thank you to Bill in Toronto and honorarily your neighbor. You're both policy wonks. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Next, I've been working on the railroad. Thank you so much. You're an hour policy wonk. I'm

a policy wonk. This one's going to be tough for me to. It took a lot to resist all the live long. I took a lot for me not to follow up with it. Remarkable restraint. I know. So I think I'm going to probably butcher this pronunciation. Okay, try. Next, make a nificent. It's a maleficent kind of thing, but make a nificent. Something like that. Make a nificent. Make a nificent. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got two technocrats out there in the mix to shout out. So first, Lizzie Bones. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Tim happy belated birthday. Treven Clay. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crocky, mate. That's fantastic.

Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. I also like how Tim snuck in that birthday shout out by pretending it was a nickname. Sneaky. There's always a loophole. Anytime we try and close one door, they open a window. Yeah. I mean, I was really committed to the whole thing of no more birthday shout outs, but it turns out you're a Triter Dan. Oh, God, no. This is this. This is the end. I like this. This is the end for us. I like

to look across the table and see a miserable through it. All right. So here we go. We're starting at the beginning of the episode and Alex has some some COVID related news. Surprise heart attack related. Oh, no. So let me just show you this little stack. We'll go into this more. This is just today from all over local newspapers around the country. Doctors remember. They're telling you to remember. Nobody now suddenly is too young for a heart attack. They say suddenly above 12 year olds have all been having heart attacks all over the Western world. And they say, we don't know why and NPR stories and ABC stories and these others just say it's just a new thing. Just get used to oh, and strokes and blood clots

and lungs. But no one knows what it is. So this is a headline that Alex is reading from the times of India, not from local papers all over the United States. That is unsurprising. But he's entirely misrepresenting the point of the article. Alex wants this to be something related to COVID vaccine side effects. But that's not what the article is actually even about at all. This is more or less an op ed about the fact that while we often think of heart attacks as something that only affects older people, younger folks do experience heart attacks and heart conditions to just at a lower rate. And the general reasons cited in this article have nothing to do with vaccines. Quote, while conventionally vices were blamed

for heart disease, youth in their 20s and 30s today face the risk of developing heart disease due to their sedentary lifestyle, stress and diet. If you read the article added pollution, but I'm going to guess the times of India doesn't want to add that one. You could throw that in. Maybe if you read the article, this discussion is not about a phenomenon we're just seeing since COVID. Quote, in the last seven and a half years, Goa Medical College has treated about 7400 heart patients of these 4.1% were less than 40 years of age and 21% under 50. This article even discusses that this as an issue that's particularly more severe in the Goa area in India, because quote, a high incidence of diabetes among

the Goan population could be one of the reasons why more people in their youth are detected with a heart condition. Sure. The reality is just that even before COVID vaccines were a thing that we knew it exists or even COVID was a thing we knew it exists, the rates of heart attacks and young people were on the rise. Quote, although Americans are suffering fewer heart attacks as a whole, the rate of heart attacks for people under 40 is increasing. That was from a Cleveland Clinic article published on April 26, 2019. The article discusses many of the same variables as at times of India article of sedentary lifestyles, compounded issues from diabetes and increases in general stress among the population. This is just

a subject that the medical community has been discussing and paying attention to for years. Alex is just taking headlines that reflect a longstanding concern and lying about them to use them as a weapon in his anti-vax propaganda. All of a sudden, people have been studying this thing for the past several, five, seven, 10 years and have started saying things like pay attention to it. And I mean, it's COVID. Obviously. Obviously. It's obviously COVID. It predates COVID. But yeah, I mean, 10 years behind. Sure. Yeah. Great. Yeah. So anyway, Alex has more on this headline and then he digs even deeper into a sad hole. Oh, get there. Sad reported. Get into that hole. And I've got the articles here and the screenshots

from around the world. When I see a screenshot, I just don't believe it. I went and followed it through on all these and these are indeed everywhere. In fact, friend of mine sent me a text from Dallas and it's on the side of the buses there. But here it is. Doctors remember now nobody's too young for a heart attack. Wow. It's a new and improved wonderful thing. And what do they report all over the Western world? Massive increases in heart attacks and blood clots in the young. Oh, spotted in Whitby on Durham Transit. Are they normalizing this? So Alex there at the end, he's reporting on a meme that one of his employees saw on Twitter. This is a picture of a bus with a decal on the side saying, quote, kids have

strokes to know the warning signs. This has a caption that Alex was reading that was added to the image that says, quote, spotted in Whitby on Durham Transit. Are they normalizing on what's to come? So the argument is that like more kids are gonna have strokes, right? They're trying to make that normal. Right. So if I understand correctly, somebody, probably in Whitby, nearby, right, a globalist in Whitby took a picture of a completely innocuous just, hey, health is important. Sure. And then turned it into a right wing meme to disparage the COVID vaccine and tell everybody they're going to die and to sort of demonstrate or allow people like Alex to demonstrate that they're telling you that kids have strokes in order to

make you not worried when kids do have strokes. Right. Yeah, they can just turn anything into bullshit. Yeah. And this is bullshit for a couple of reasons. The first is that this picture that's used in the meme is undated. So honestly, who's to say if it's even a recent image could have been a decal that was run for a public health campaign in 2017 for all we know. The second reason is that that decal includes a link to people who paid for the ad. It's an organization called Achieving Beyond Brain Injury. This group was started by two mothers who met because their sons had strokes early in life, which prompted them to create an advocacy and awareness group to help other parents who are in the situation that they were in and help parents know the warning

signs. As the bus to Cal said, Rebecca DeMano's son was 14 when he had a stroke on April 12th, 2018. Nadine Vermillion's son was 10 when he had a stroke on February 28th, 2015. Along with raising awareness and trying to help families with children affected by strokes, the organization is really about the bigger picture of youths who have suffered brain related injuries. For instance, many of their scholarship recipients this year had trauma related brain injuries like Eric, who was hit by a bus. Strokes in young people, it's not a new phenomenon and the work these mothers are trying to do with Achieving Beyond Brain Injury is really admirable stuff because there's a very important variable that's brought up in this 2015 article in the journal Vascular

Health and Risk Management. Quote, strokes in young adults are reported as being uncommon, comprising 10 to 15% of all stroke patients. However, compared with strokes in older adults, stroke in the young has disproportionately large economic impact by leaving victims disabled before their most productive years. So anyway, this organization dedicated to helping make sure that children who suffered brain injuries don't get left behind, they put an ad on a bus in Canada and somebody took a picture of it which is now being used as anti-COVID vaccine propaganda. It's honestly just repulsive behavior from top to bottom and the transmission point of Alex reporting on this meme without any context about the organization that put the decal on the

bus. It's incredibly irresponsible and it's just disrespectful all around. Yeah, you know, sometimes when they're inventive towards their bullshit, it can be kind of fun or interesting. In this situation, this is just fucking sad. Yeah. This is sad all across the board. Everybody doing things is sad. The exploitation is sad. It's lazy. Everything is bad. Yeah, this is awful. Yeah, and the group that's actually behind this billboard is from all indications that I can find doing really important work. Of course. No, it's... And the only end result of this is maybe targeting them as being part of a conspiracy to normalize strokes. Yeah, you killed two birds with one stone. You know, you get to make a conspiracy and then you get to bother people

who are doing good. That's exactly what the right wing wants all the time. It's pretty disgusting. Great. So there have been some deaths recently and maybe it's because of the COVID vaccine. Oh, hey, look at this guy, though. Everything's okay. This is the Times of India, biggest publication in the second most popular country in the world. Puneet Raj Kumar, very popular A-list movie star over there in Bollywood. He got his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine and then he got his second one recently. And hey, he's doing fine, folks. Oh, no, he died of a heart attack at 46 years old yesterday. Oh, oh, but hey, too many people are right. What? Weird. That's a really odd way to end, though. It is. Yeah. So the passing of Puneet Raj Kumar is a

sad bit of news. He was a very popular actor and only 46 when he died from a heart attack. Sure. However, Alex is lying and making shit up in order to use this dead man's memory as a prop for his anti-vax propaganda. You see, Puneet Raj Kumar was a huge star. So it struck me as a little weird to imagine that he was just now getting the vaccine. He's also a really public face for healthy living. So this didn't sit right with me at all. If you look into this for even a second, you'll find that he got his first dose of the vaccine on April 7th, 2021. I know this because he tweeted a picture of himself getting vaccinated. Hmm. But you can't believe screenshots like that. We just sat there. Was it, was there a date on there? Well, I mean, it had to have been

prior to April 7th, 2020. You can't time travel. All right. Well, now we're talking. So I also know that by June, Puneet was helping the Indian government by appearing in PSAs about the importance of public health measures, including getting vaccinated. Sure. I guess I can't definitively prove when he got his second dose, but Alex with is presenting no evidence and he's expecting me to believe that one of the highest paid actors in India got the first shot in April, then worked as a vaccination awareness ambassador and somehow didn't get the second dose until late October. You get busy. She doesn't fly. You get busy, Dan. That's it's life. Right. Yeah. Also a small point, but not every movie made in India is a Bollywood movie. Bollywood tends

to refer to the movie industry in Mumbai, which was formerly known as Bombay. Bombay, Hollywood makes Bollywood. Puneet Raj Kumar was from the south of India and he was more associated with the Kannada movie scene. And he was insane. Oh, oh, also what the other thing that he was known for was being the son of the insanely famous actor, Dr. Raj Kumar. He wasn't actor, but he went by doctor. And incidentally, he died of a heart attack, which illustrates a family history and factor for Puneet to have, you know, a higher incidence or higher likelihood of having a heart attack. Seems like there are many, many, many explanations and zero of them are the vaccine. Right. Alex is a monster. He's just willing to make shit up about people who die as long as the

story of their death is something he can profit off of. It's a real piece of shit. Real piece of shit. Yeah, man. This is harsh. Yeah. This is harsh out the gate. Yeah. And it gets worse. Jesus. Oh, hey, how about that top radio host? He got the shot. He's dead of heart attack too, but that's just yesterday too. But hey, no big deal. Radio legend died suddenly. Every it's a second shot. And it goes on. But hey, let's not listen to that. That's all just anecdotal. It's not even anecdotal. It's just not true. So that's a problem. He's lying about another beloved celebrity's death in order to make this shitty argument better. In this case, it's Australian broadcaster Russell Wolfe who died in his sleep on October 26th. At this point, I don't believe that the exact cause

of death is public or known. So I can't really speak to that. Anti-vax protesters have used Wolfe's death as an argument against the vaccine. But Alex is also just making shit up. Wolfe himself tweeted that he got the second dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine on August 19th over two months prior to his passing. There's no evidence at all to suggest that his death and the vaccination are related in any way. This is just disgusting stuff. I'm listening to this episode and I'm like, I want to kick the episode. Yeah, man, that's that's who did how do you do that? I don't know. You know, that's sometimes it's like you intellectually, I know he's a narcissistic psychopath who has no care for other lives. You know, it's just him. It's just him, right?

But I can't like emotionally get into a place where I'm like, you know what I'll do? I'll lie about this person's death to kill more people. Yeah, like what? Like how would Alex feel if someone lied about like one of his loved ones death or something like that in order to advance some kind of spurious argument? I mean, it's just it's repulsive behavior. And it you know what? I was experiencing this and I'm like, all right, the time window to have a spooktacular is pretty short. It's not long. Yeah. I mean, like even this episode is coming out in November. It's coming out the day after the spooktacular has already ended. Now I might be able to release this episode a little bit early so some people can listen to trying to grab a little bit trying to grab a

little bit of that nighttime Halloween magic, right? Maybe some people, you know, we have an audience that's adults, maybe some people who don't have kids. They might want to enjoy a Halloween so here's where I would put on the Monster Mash and our episode simultaneously. They sync up. It's Pink Floyd all over the monster. Fuck. This is the point where if I was a professional, I would add a lightning sound effect and then so I was creeping around on Alex's website. Sure. I was going through like old screenshots on the way back machine and the archives and I found an interview that is long buried. That is I did. I'd never seen this before. This page is almost inaccessible. Very difficult to find. Okay. This is an interview with a guy

named David Benoit. And here's the title of the interview. Okay. Author of 14 things, witches, hopes, parents never find out about the occult and the real meaning of Halloween, bringing America to its knees. Well, Dan, we've got a winner. Yes, we do. So fuck Alex Jones on the 29th. Holy shit. Yeah. Thank God, you are really getting me scared. I know. It was a smoke tackler for me. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to go back to Halloween 2002. That's the shit. October 30th, 2002. We have Alex Jones having an interview with a guy who's written a book about the 14 things witches don't want you to know. I want to know exactly what each 14 are. Can I actually disabuse you of that notion? Damn it. You will not find out with these

14 things. Will I find out any of them? No. Come on. I mean, keep notes. Okay. Maybe. You might find some things. All right. Okay. So here's where Alex begins the proceedings. It's real radio, folks going wherever the truth leads us exposing the globalist and all of their criminal activities. And every time I follow one of their rat holes, I find the occult, whether it's skull and bones or bohemian grove or what we see with the rock and roll music in our society glorifying the devil. It's a real thing. But now we see day of the dead in California, the Aztec holiday of human sacrifice with black altars being worshiped. We hear about these different occult religions exploding. Meanwhile, being promoted in the public schools and we're told Christianity is a bad thing

and don't talk about Jesus. Folks don't let the New World Order cram you into a box. Yeah, man. So I guess you can't evangelize at school or you can. Yeah. I mean, when I was in school, they had to like meet you at the flag thing. You know, they did nonstop prayer where I was. Yeah. There was quite a bit of it. It's just not, you know, the school isn't supposed to have like coordinated organized religious activities. Yeah. Yes, I guess it's the New World Order. Oh, yeah. You know, I was going to say that he shouldn't bring Christianity into it because Christianity seems to be the one trying to terrify people about imaginary witches, whereas witches are just kind of fine. Yeah, they're just hanging out. They're just hanging out. Yeah. They can't actually

do magic, Dan. We don't know that. Yes, we do. Harry Potter is a guidebook. Damn it. So I would probably actually be a little bit uncomfortable doing this episode if we hadn't made some progress in the 2003 stuff because we know that in 2003 he does believe he's fighting the literal devil. A literal Christian. He's hiding it a little bit more than he does in the present. It's more oblique. Yeah. And we also know that he fucking thinks that Harry Potter and witches are real. So with those pieces of information, we can now do this, this Halloween interview. I wish this whole episode was available, but it's just this interview. Oh, that's disappointing. Unfortunately. Because he's already yelling about Rock and Roll. I want to

see how, how does he feel about Getty Lee? Right. How does he feel about Rush? You know, like, give me more specifics on who's the devil worshipers. Well, to be fair, they're prog. They're less rock and roll prog. That's probably thinks that everybody who's into prog is a weirdo. That's true. No demon worshiping. Just what do you know? They're probably animists because they have the song about the trees. That's true. It's unrest in the forest. There's trouble with the trees. Yeah. And all the music videos would prove they worship the devil in some way. Yeah. Limelight. That was all about the devil. But then again, I will choose free will. Alex loves free will. Yeah, but so does the devil. We wouldn't be able to follow the devil if it weren't for free will.

Right. Good point. Yeah. That, that is a good point, Dan. I have made it. So Alex has this David Benoit. Okay. Now I am joined today by a man who came out recommended by a local pastor here in Austin, David Benoit. And we've got a link to his website on info wars.com. He has, since the mid 80s, been focusing in on the occult and studying Halloween and the rest of it. And you go to the encyclopedia McTannock and read that it's a human sacrifice day of Sam Hane in the Germanic and Visigoth and ball kingdoms in the Western Europe thousands of years ago, right through to modern day course in England. I don't, I don't know if all the traditions of a thousand years ago to continue to today. Anyway, I was curious about this cat, David Benoit.

So I decided to look into him. Let's take a look. Here's what his bio says. Okay. Quote, in June of 1984, David was led of the Lord to establish glory ministries as an evangelist. When David began, the emphasis of glory ministries was to expose the truth of the damaging effects of rock music on society. The only solution being regeneration by Jesus Christ. Man, he was only a few years away from correctly hating rap music. One of the things that's so fun about that backstory is that it's really specific. This is June 1984. So we can definitely tell what was on the charts back then. See how the music industry is really into themselves. So they leave a lot of evidence.

Yeah. What are we talking about? We got 84. I'd say June 84. I'd say flock of seagulls is up there. Nope. Top 25. I don't think so. Okay. So three songs made it to number one in the charts in that month. All right. June 1984. Okay. You're never going to be able to guess that. Okay. Let's hear it for the boy from the Footloose soundtrack. That's here it's for the boy. Okay, fine. Why did I ever have hope in humanity? The Footloose soundtrack is number one. Okay. Well, let's hear it for the boy. All right. Fine. Not even Footloose. Not even Kenny Logan. It's fine. But Denise Williams. Not the other song. One of the other songs I made at number one was Time After Time by

Cindy Lauper. Oh, well, I mean, yeah, you can't go wrong. The Reflex by Durand Durand. None of that shit sounds too satanic. So maybe you should look at May because maybe what happened in May caused him to jump off the ledge. He's not checking the charts every week, you know, but he probably has a sense of he's got a vibe. Anyway, in May, here are the things that made it to number one. Lionel Richie was making waves with Hello. Oh, that's great. Hello. Yeah. Yeah. Later on used as a hook for one of the best Buster Rhyme songs. Give me some out. No, hello. Oh, Collins was set in the world on fire doing three weeks at the top of the charts with against all odds. Jesus Christ. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't

like Phil Collins. I do, but I believe we can agree to disagree. We can. So I decided to look at the entire Hot 100 from the week's relevant to this possible conversion. And here are the songs that I think are possible that made David into a devil fever. Okay. Sister Christian by Night Ranger. Okay. I can see Night Ranger do it. It's got Christian in the name. Night Ranger could do it though. Yeah. Yeah. I got the skills. I want to break free by Queen because Freddie Mercury is gay. Yeah, but I mean, that's just too good. I mean, even in even in the 80s, everybody hated gay people, but they're like, Freddie fucking Mercury. I don't know. I think David's the kind of guy who could be afraid of a lot. And then here's the only other one I could think of maybe. And that's the

heart of rock and roll by Huey Lewis in the news. And that's because the heart of rock and roll is still beating, which implies that it's a zombie. Right. That's true. That's true. That's up the devil. If Huey Lewis is the one who's like, we can't, I got to stop the devil music. Then we're, then you're too far gone. You're too far gone. So as I looked a little bit more into this guy's bio, I found this nugget quote, David has the rare ability to communicate his message to young people as well as to parents using humor and interesting facts. So that might bias me going into this interview that I'm expecting someone with humor and good facts. He better have humor. They could connect with the kids. You know who doesn't ever connect with the kids? A Christian

who says they can connect with the kids with humor and good facts and who's scared of the devil scared of music. Just say you're scared of all music. Why not? Yeah. I'm just going to put on some buck. Oh my God. Is that a bassoon run? I don't do wind winds larger than three feet. Alex is real scared and he has some stories about Halloween that I don't know. I'd need a citation. It's a human sacrifice day of Sam Hain in the Germanic and Visigothan ball kingdoms in Western Europe thousands of years ago right through to modern day course in England. This is what's being celebrated is a night of wickedness. Children are kidnapped throughout this week and then their dead bodies are found and put in the back of the newspaper. In the days after Halloween

years later they find their little skeletons in many cases. This is a serious issue. So this is running rampant apparently. Yeah. Kids are being kidnapped in the lead up to Halloween. Right. Right. And then their little skeletons are found and it's covered up in the back of the newspaper. It's so sad. But the idea of little skeletons coming back to life on Halloween is a little cute. You got to admit that. Jumping up out of the ground just kind of being like, hey. Sure. Yeah. I think that if this is covered up in the back of the newspaper, Alex should be able to find those articles from the back of the newspaper and put some pieces together to make a specific case. Can you cover something up if you publish it in your newspaper? In plain sight, baby.

Now I understand why you would say hidden in plain sight because you think it's in plain sight and people don't pay attention to it. So it must be hidden. However, it is still there. It is not hidden whatsoever. Yeah. I just need more information from Alex. I think this might just be a fear thing. Yeah. Yeah. And I do want to make sure everybody knows there is no shame in pronouncing it Sam Hain. Sure. It's written like that. I get it. Fine. I never heard it out loud until I was like 15 or whatever. Of course you don't know how it's pronounced. Not your fault. Sure. Not your fault. Sure. Yeah. Now there is shame in giving kids those like weird orange or brown wrapped taffy things that are like peanut butter. Those are disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. If you're

going to give one of those kids that's you might as well put a razor blade in there because it's just as garbage. I would. I would rather almost because I probably wouldn't eat the razor blade and then I'd have a lawsuit. If I have one of those peanut butter candies, I'm just going to be mad. Didn't people think they were putting razor blades in apples for a while? I think that was kind of yeah. What are the folklore? Yeah. Yeah. The old wives tales as it were. How funny is that somebody's like kids are getting hurt because they're eating apples on Halloween. Sure. Yeah. Good call. Yeah. I can't. I can't think of a single person that I know who would have gotten an apple even like a like a caramel apple or something. The best apple in the world. Just been like this

is the wrong night for this. Get the fuck out of here. I want to twix. This doesn't have a razor blade in it. I don't care. So you might ask. Yeah. I think a lot of people ask. Yeah. What's up with Halloween? What's the deal? What is the deal? Well, Benoit has some has some thoughts right now though. We're joined by David Benoit of glory ministries. It's great to have you on the worldwide broadcast. Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here, brother. Absolutely. Halloween. What is it? What's it all about? Well, you know, the basic premise of Halloween is that they will which is believed that the veil between the natural and the supernatural that is finished during that time so they can communicate with the dead. And I find it quite interesting that it used to be that Halloween.

You could tell when Halloween was coming because you'd hear horror films and death movies and stuff. But now it's 24 hours a day, seven days a week around our country. And talking to the dead is not something that's new. It's something that even saw practice went to the witch of indoor. So now we have murder, blood, right? Hellage 24 seven all over television being desensitized. So we hear about all these wicked things happening and it's okay unless they want our guns and they'll play to figure out. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wow. That was a sharp turn. Yeah, that was strange. I got whiplash from that one. Wait, you're mad at the witches about Second Amendment issues. I think we just got hit with the I think I just got T-boned with an idea. I do think that it's pretty impressive

to be able to combine a conversation about how witches can talk to other worlds on Halloween and gun rights. How in the world, how are we, how is everybody just talking about it like, well, witches believe that it's when the veil between things and everybody's talked to spirits before. That's just a regular old thing. Yeah. So I'll talk to the witch of it. None of this is real. I just had an interesting thought. If you are somebody who legitimately believes that witches are around and they can do magic, you should know that your guns not going to be effective against them. Like you should recognize that gun rights are meaningless if you're up against witches. Well, I think what is the government got a team of witches like you're not going to

be able to overthrow the government. They can do magic. You're now going to need to learn magic. I really, I really think that people don't quite understand what the implications of magic being real are. Trust me, I do. I've thought about this. I have thought about it quite a bit as well. And it is, it is very silly. It's very silly. No, it's very silly. I want to know which 14 things witches don't want me to know. I think that they don't want you to know that they're opposed to gun rights. I imagine that I swear to God, I would bet 500 bucks right now that the number one thing is that witches are real. Yeah, probably. I would bet a million dollars. I don't know if this guy's book is actually called like the 14 things or whatever. Yeah. 14 simple rules

for 14 habits of highly effective witches. Yeah. I don't know. And based on his interview, I don't think I would want to read a book by him anyway. No, he seems afraid in this next clip of high school kids. Well, here's the connection. This is from San Mateo County Times and it's Friday, September 27th, 2002, a high school saintism club prompts parents outrage. On themselves, the Satanic Thought Society co-president of the club James Doodle admits that he originally started the club with the friend Matt Heaney to rifle things a bit up a bit. But now that the two juniors have studied the teachings of Anton Levese found in the Satanic Church, they say that Satanism helps people express themselves. Is Satanism's purpose

to turn man's back into the natural state, not have to be corrupt by religion? I saw a post cassette article yesterday where it says the Wookin religions exploding in the public schools and being promoted. How does Harry Potter and the Deepakult teachings there, how does this feed into this, this explosion? Oh no. We're back on Harry Potter. I 100% remember this. I remember people shitting a brick about Wiccans. Yeah. How funny was that? Yeah. God. And now he's just combining Harry Potter with Wiccans, just being like, Hey, if they believe magic, they definitely can't tell the difference between Wiccans and Harry fucking Potter, right? Yeah. I got nothing against people who are interested in something like a Wicca or whatever. I don't begrudge.

Hey, I love the craft. I would argue though that these kids that this guy, Ben Was talking about, who had a Satanism club, they started it just to fuck with people. Right. He clearly said that, just riple things up a bit. Literally said, I wanted to fucking feel it. And then they found that they like had some good lessons in there or whatever. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. I'm gonna guess that that is a dismount from the club. You know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna guess that these guys are not Satanists after graduation. Right. Right. Right. I would, I would even go so far as to say that if someone in the first quote says we started this club to fuck with things, and then in the second quote says we believe all of it now, you might still be getting fucked with

you moron. It's possible. And the presentation that Ben Wall wants to make is that they're saying they believe in all of it. It's all wonderful. And that's not even what that quote is is saying. No. They did not say actually the devil's real and we love them. Yeah. Yeah. I am not worried about high schoolers having weird fun clubs, slippery slope, Dan. You let them, you let high schoolers have one slippery slope fun club with the devil. Next thing you know, they're reading critical race theory and it's all over for the rest. I think that if I went to high school with them, I might care. You know, like you think not much. Yeah. But it would be something that would be interesting to me. But outside of that, I don't care at all. No, no, no. So I went

to Hickman High School in Columbia and like Rockbridge was the other high school. If there was a Satanism club over at Rockbridge, I wouldn't care. Yeah. Yeah. Not my business. How many generations of adults freaking out about what isolated children are doing thousands of miles away from them is going to eventually be like, Oh, maybe this is dumb. This is a show in Texas where adults are talking about high schoolers in San Mateo, California, a place they probably didn't realize existed. Perhaps in this situation, those children are more adults than we. Maybe. Yeah. At least these ding dongs. Yep. So anyway, witches are protected by the government. I don't know if you knew that. You have to understand that witchcraft is a 501c3 tax system status. I'm

sorry. What means you cannot discriminate. You cannot hire a fire person because you cannot fire a person because of their religious status. If they say they're their witch and they apply and you say, I'm not going to hire you because you're a witch, that's discrimination, religious discrimination. But with faith based initiative, if that goes through, then the Christian church is allowed to hire witches. Oh, absolutely. Okay. All right. Oh, man, to be a fly on the wall of people whose largest problem is witches getting jobs, getting jobs. Yeah, you're not even allowed to fire someone just because they say they're a witch. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, the same rules that protect people who have religious beliefs or, you know, religious identifications

like being a witch, right? Are the exact same rules that protect people who are Christians? Yeah, it is. It is wild who how when a religion gets to put its boot on the neck of other religions, they're like religious protections are terrible. But when they've got the boot on their neck, they go, we need religious protection. Yeah. It's so weird. And we're not getting it because of the witches. It's because of the witches. It's definitely not because of us. Yeah. Yeah. So we get back to Harry Potter shockingly. This is, I don't know if this is true because I don't remember Harry Potter. Yeah, I'm sorry if this is true, but it just sounds really dumb. And see, here's the thing with Harry Potter, as I've got a whole lot of stuff on Harry Potter. As

a matter of fact, I've got a brand new book out entitled Clive Investigator. It's Unaware. And I do talk about Harry Potter, you know, five of his four of his professors are dead. And as a matter of fact, I show in my presentation how easy it is for a child to go from Harry Potter's website all the way right into real witchcraft. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. I know that some of them do die. Like Dumbledore does die. Yes. Like Snape dies, right? No. Oh, he kills Dumbledore. Well, Snape dies in the final book, but he kills Dumbledore, but because Dumbledore told him to, he's actually secretly, it's a whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. There's a redemption arc that John Cleese ghost, I remember from the first one. Yeah, that one was great.

Yeah. He's dead. He's a ghost. Well, is he? I don't know. We're four out of the five professors dead. Well, okay. So I don't think they were. No, there's the curse is just that every dark arts professor can only be there for a year. Right. Because Dumbledore cursed. Yeah. So they, so the, yeah, but I mean, wait, so the fuck what? Wait, wait, wait, so four out of the five dark arts professors are dead? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They just die. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, but you can't have five dark arts professors at the same time. No, you cannot. Yeah. So actually one is still alive, but we'll later be dead. Furthermore, furthermore, if we're going to start treating this as a problem, yeah, that four out of the four of the professors are dead, right? We must

also admit that ghosts are available to just about anybody at any time. Ghosts are in play. Ghosts are in play. So nobody's really dead. I do think that it is strange that he's concerned about these characters being dead and like Harry being able to talk to the dead because you can easily go from Harry Potter's website to real witchcraft. Oh yeah, it takes no time. And then you could talk to the dead. That's how it works. I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated by this. Why? Because I feel like I'm delighted. If you couldn't talk to the dead, that's a no brainer. Right. Christianity's not offering me talking to the dead. I got to wait for that shit. Fuck that. Give me a couple of weeks of a course. I want the Harry Potter website. You know,

with the Wiccan book and I want to talk to the, you know, the problem with talking with dead, though, is it's a crapshoot. Like some other people you're going to talk to are really boring. Yeah, just because you're dead doesn't make you more interesting than you were in life. Like you think it's all like these philosophers and like tell us what the 1500s were like. We worked 18 hours a day and then I died. I couldn't breathe. What was the industrial revolution like choking to death? I was a child laborer. I died at 10 when a machine fell on me. Thank you for creating our modern world. Let's talk to the dead. I'm the kid who discovered maybe we should bring a canary with us into the

coal mine. Actually, I think some of those kids might actually be interesting to talk to. I'm just saying that some people are dullards and that's fine. Yeah. Didn't read too much when they were alive. So look, you know, if you do, if you don't read particularly Harry Potter, you're going to, sorry, we're treating Harry Potter as real. Okay. Very much. We got to get into the headspace of somebody who's like Harry Potter is real. And at school, if you don't read Harry Potter, you fail. Oh, no. I've talked to so many parents who told me that in the classroom, they cannot eat. If a child does not read Harry Potter books, they could pluck the prices. When you walk into Barnes and Nobles, right at the main entrance of most of the sports,

I've seen giant Harry Potter teaching aid kiosks with just hundreds of books piled up there, people grabbing and snatching them. It's amazing. Sorry that it's a really popular book. I mean, yeah. Also, we can solve that Barnes and Noble problem a different way to their God. Jesus Christ. Yeah, you got you got what you wanted. No more displays at Barnes and Noble. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't know if I believe that if you don't read Harry Potter, you flunk because I don't think that any school I don't I find it tough to believe that a school would have Harry Potter be a mandatory piece of curriculum. Do you mean considering the fact that apparently half the parents at any given school believes that Harry Potter is real?

Well, but I mean, also, it's casual reading. Yeah, it's it's good for like, you know, a kid learning to read, but there's so many different examples of that that you could find. It's not like this teaches math in a way that would like it's a textbook. Yeah, I find it difficult to believe that some teacher if some kid was like, look, I'm not comfortable with reading this. Oh, okay, why don't you read this instead? Right? I can't see that happening. You know, what's ironic about that is that for so long, you do think, oh, this is just light casual reading. But if you were to put that through a critical appreciation, you'd be like, Oh, she was a turf all along. Of course, I should have just I should have just paid attention. It was not casual

reading at all. And four out of the five turfs in the book are dead. That's because a gun rights Yeah, probably. Yeah. So I don't I don't I look I didn't cut out that much from this interview. Okay, but this doesn't make sense even if you listen to the whole thing. Okay, you know, I read a story not long ago about a missionary who led this woman to the Lord. And after leading her to the Lord, then what he did was he she said, would you please talk to my husband because he needs to be safe. So every morning he sat there and drink a cup of coffee with the man and share the gospel with him. Well, he got deathly ill. And they went and did blood work. And the man said, the doctor said to the

missionary said, Are you working with rat poison? And he said, No, I'm not. He said that someone's rat poisoning you. And what it was was the man drink coffee with every day, would just put a little sprinkle of rat poison in his cup, not enough to change the taste, not enough to cause the man to die right there. Just little doses. And I thought that's exactly what our society is right now. The little dose after little dose, first it was bewitched, then the brain of the teenage witch, the friend of the ghost, the brain of the teenage witch. So now, but the vampire layer and everything else, charmed and, and they're all available for our children. And they re actively recruit. I'll be honest. I mean, I turn on the television tonight.

We're talking nine o'clock at night and it's two women conducting oral sex on a man in a hot tub on these date shows. It's satanic stuff everywhere. It's military on our streets. I mean, this country is really turning in to a satanic slash Soviet style system. What? What? What? Like I get the metaphor that Benoit is, I mean, that story is obviously death by a thousand cuts. We can shorten it, but that's fine. That story is obviously like something you read in a Christian pamphlet or something 100% to make you scared of nonbelievers. Oh my God. The metaphor is like put a razor blade in the apple of the man was trying to eat Dan little by little. You get poisoned and he's saying that be witched is a little bit of poison. Sabrina, the teenage witch is a little bit of

poison. Yes. I get that. I just don't get the jump military on the streets and even the shorter jump. I guess these people getting sucked off in a hot tub. Yes. That's the shortest jump there is. Alex is mad about dating shows being a little bit over sexualized. I don't know. I don't know. I guess that is also satanic to Alex, which is strange. I'm going to have to go with if you are, if you're telling me, you know, like it's be witched and Sabrina, the teenage witch, it's all, they're just, it's the, you don't get to participate in culture anymore. It's not for you. It's not for you. Maybe sometimes you just don't get it. Shouldn't you also be scared of like touched by an angel? Everything like you should be scared of the Christian shows that are about supernatural

shit. I mean, here's the problem. The Christian shows that are about supernatural shit almost always wind up hand waving things away with a very similar explanation to it was magic. Sure. Yeah. So there's a conspiracy afoot and that is that the schools want to give kids computers. Now, some people might think that this is because technology is advancing and computer literacy is something that's pretty important for kids being able to navigate a lot of the aspects of the new modern world, the interconnectedness. Okay. So this show is set in 1984. Then we're afraid of rock and roll. We're afraid of bewitched and we're afraid of computers. Yep. Okay. So anyway, there's a conspiracy about why schools are giving computers. Sure. Well, you know,

one of the objectives of the school system is to make sure that every child has a computer and that every child has access to the internet. Well, here's what they won't tell you, Alex, is that if you type into your search engine, the word witchcraft, 341,000 sites pop up for these children. If you type in necromancy, it's talking to the dead 13,400 sites. And by the way, you've got John Edwards, who's supposed to talk to the dead. If you don't believe that people can engage in necromancy, it's not really that threatening for a kid to be exposed to it. Like, for instance, when I was a kid, I was exposed to the idea of telekinesis through the X-Men. Sure. And holy shit, I wanted to do it. Right. I tried and I couldn't. And I realized it's a

fictional ability and I was able to enjoy the X-Men in a different way. You got it completely wrong. The thing is the X-Men didn't give you a roadmap to learning how to do that, unlike Harry Potter, which teaches you how to do magic. I would argue that Alex and David have not yet made it to the step that I crossed when I tried to do telekinesis. I would say that, yes. I would say that they're delayed. They have a delay in this progression of understanding. How old were you? When did X-Men first came out? 2003? Yeah. It was about last week. It was about last week. I think this is really stupid. This is bad. I think that if you, you have to believe that kids can be turned into magic witches in order to be worried about this. Yes, they can. Anyway, Alex, like he's a guy who needs

a respite, you know, like all this. Well, the military's on the streets. There's Soviet style propaganda everywhere. Blowies in a hot tub. Blowies in a hot tub and witches walking everywhere. Everywhere. Government has them. This is a guy who needs a break. He needs a place that he can be safe. Okay. And then they also have another program on WGN beyond, and these people are supposed to communicate with the dead. Look, I can't even sit down with my wife now and watch a national dog show because I like dog shows. I like dogs. Yeah. And they'll go, we're calling in the Putsch. I kick now. Oh, absolutely. So, so what are we doing? Everything. But the check to understand is we're getting closer to the end of the ages. I kind of relate it to a

football game or basketball game. You can always talk about overtime. Yeah, you better believe it. You can see the intensity in the final ending. You can see the intensity in the last two minutes of a basketball football game is intensified because they know that they only have a short time to get it done. So 19 years ago, we were in the final innings of the game and they were really trying to, you know, get these intensifying the end was near. Christians do realize we've been in the fourth quarter overtime for several thousand years. It's been a long overtime. Yeah. I would argue we should end it. I did a tie. Jesus. Hey, God and Satan tied. Everything's fine. We just move on. It's like soccer rules. It'll be an interesting proposal to try and work out. I

want to negotiate a draw starter. I'm going to negotiate a draw between God and the devil. I bet the devil would take that. I think it's a great deal. Yeah. I think God should take it too. Yeah. He's going to be a holdout. Yeah. What's the point? So, um, hey, you remember, uh, the man Michael Dukakis? Yes, I do remember a man in a tank looking very strong. Do you think that he ever did anything overtly satanic? Um, I don't know if getting in a tank is overtly satanic. I think Alex is also wrong. Yeah. He likes tanks or just big guns. Yeah. Uh, no, we did do one thing and maybe we forgot about this. I've got a woman that thought that I talked about in my presentation and, uh, she's a, a witch and, uh, from, uh, Lori Cabot, it was known as the official

witch of Salem. She was nominated the official witch of Salem by Michael Dukakis when he was running for the president of the United States of America. He said it would be good for his political campaign to nominate a witch. Well, America's really hurting when you have to nominate a witch to be married to one to get in the whiteout. What? Well, it's amazing, but, but getting back to this, it's not just the Democrats. No, no. You know, also it was very well known that, uh, Mrs. Reagan went to astrologers and things like that as well. Wow. We got both sides from Alex. He's above the left, right? We really did it. We really nailed it that time. So what Ben was talking about is actually true. Lori Cabot was named the official witch of Salem by Michael

Dukakis back in 1977 when he was the governor of Massachusetts. Yeah. Of course. There's official wizards of towns all over the world. Of course. This is fine. Yeah. So his decision was basically recognizing two things. Yeah. One, there's a tradition of witch shit in Massachusetts and the Northeast in general. And two, uh, Cabot opened what she claims is the first witch shop in America back in the seventies. So she's a historical monument as well. Exactly. Yeah. Alex sells dumb pills. If he wants to be mad at some lady selling incense and bath salts, I guess that's a fun game for him to play, but I just, I mean, shouldn't he be a witch or a warlock for these, the magic that these pills do on your body? I mean, it's, it's like being in like, uh,

what, like 1920s San Francisco and be like, there's this man going around calling himself the king of America. Now, sir, this is a democracy. How dare they, if people begin to believe that he's the king, well, it's all a monarchy. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? There was a guy, uh, a homeless person, a guy experiencing homelessness at the, you know, uh, in Columbia and he wore a Burger King crown around and he called himself the king of Columbia and a lot of people would salute him and, uh, treat him like the king and just treat him. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, it's a, yeah. I mean, and that did erode democracy. I, I, well, I mean, here we are. I had the reason that I moved to Chicago is that he had a hostile takeover of the mayor's ship. I can say, I can

say for sure that it is entirely his fault. Citizens united went through the Supreme court the way it did. I had to flee after he had a coup. He overthrew Darwin Hindman in a, so Alex goes out to break here and he's talking about that he's had some run ins with witches before. Now, based on what we know from his later talk, we should know that he had a lot of run ins with which, I mean, he was a witch. They tried to recruit him. He slept with a lot of them. Yep. Yep. Yep. He was honeypotted by a bunch. He was a bunch of cheerleaders. Talks about it a little bit differently back in 2002. Well, stay there. We'll hear about that. I'm going to get back. I want to get more into the history of Halloween and how these Satanists are using

the softer forms. There is no softer forms of the occult to shock people into their ranks. It's exploding softer. I've even had run into these people. They're in a lot of positions of power. We'll talk about it with our guests. David Benoit, when we get back and your calls are coming up as well. Wouldn't his argument seem a little bit better if he was talking about like, I hung out with them and I fucked cheerleader. I mean, it'd be a really forceful testimonial. Certainly. Yeah. Yeah. It would add to the first hand actual experience being brought to the table as opposed to I've had run ins with powerful witches and it would kind of increase his mystique, almost giving him a kind of a folkloric figure. It seems like it would be valuable to do early on

in your career. Well, I guess it kind of works if you just do it later. Most people have forgotten about your relationship. Yeah. That's fair. Look, dude, this Benoit guy is a snooze. Whenever he's talking about being able to connect with the kids, I think no. He's just getting really boring about Halloween here. Number one, more history on Halloween that maybe people aren't aware of. And then how do we protect our children from this system? Somebody protect your children. First of all, I think information is always crucial. I think that people need to understand what the whole thing is all about. As a matter of fact, I wrote a track last year entitled Halloween, A Trick or a Treat. And I give the different traditions like, for example,

Trick or Treat, where did that come from? And I talk about the jack-o-lantern, you know, that that came from Great Britain. And Jack was supposed to have a soul of soul to the devil and reneged on it and ended up having to get a coal. He tricked the devil and he put it into a turnip and then he had to walk to the face of the earth and stuff like that. They would wear masks because they would be afraid that after going to the bell fire, the bonfire, that they'd be afraid. So they figured they'd scared the ghosts or scared the spirits away by wearing masks. And now the Associated Press reported last year that the bonfire was a human sacrifice for many cases animals to be roasted. They would read the sign in their burning body. Oh, absolutely. But the

Associated Press reported that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was an AP report. 2002. April 2002, 26, you know, made a deal with the devil. He turned back on it and then he put his head into a turnip. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Are you just imagining like teens listening to that being so boring? Oh man, this guy, he knows how to engage us with humor and interesting facts. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So look, rock and roll being of the devil obvious. Yeah, totally obvious. Yeah. But there's some not so obvious things that David Benoit would like to warn you about. Okay. Some movies, maybe. Okay. Yes. Sidious. More fiction, please. Again, when you get right down to talking about the dead and talking to the dead and to

show you, here's the thing that really gives me, Alex, is that there's the obvious. And when I've, I've done things on rock music for years and stuff, I've been interviewed by NBC, ABC, CNN news and things like that. And, you know, I've talked about the obvious, but the most subtle. For example, like talking to the dead, there are movies like six cents and where a boy is supposed to see spirits and stuff. Nobody can see them but him. And then you've got ghosts where they've had some, they call about that. Hey, buddy, neither of those are subtle. Those are both like, wasn't the tag line of the six cents I see dead people catch phrase of the movie. Yeah. And hey, a ghost is called ghost. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. These are subtle things. If you want to present to me as being

a religious scholar, I think you would like that glory ministries. Sure. And you also believe that movies are real. I think it cheapens your glory. If you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, I don't think you're ready for this then. Oh, I'm not ready. He goes on. Oh God. No, like down for this. Okay. Then you've got ghosts where they've had them. They call about that. But also in the movie Lion King, Simba talks to his father who is dead. And there are a lot of Christians to say, well, I don't see anything wrong with it. Well, you know, I had one guy at a Christian college one day, so we'll miss him a lot and see it that way. The way I saw it was that Simba was like Jesus and he was talking to his heavenly father. Well, it's the same thing

with ET. ET rises from the dead. They worship the same last window. You know, he's exactly. It's the same message everywhere. Exactly. Yep. Yeah, we got Lion King and ET there, man. I am afraid of the world. I don't understand anything. So look, look, we have to keep going on this thread about the Lion King. Yes, because he's he's pretty concerned about the Lion King. He's concerned about the Lion King. Some people have given him some rebuttals that might actually like what about this bro? Okay. Well, I have I have a problem already with his first rebuttal, which is I saw the Lion King and somehow as a metaphor for Jesus, which struggling there. Right. Mike down again for this, because this is ridiculous.

Sorry, whatever Lion King comes up, Mike must go down. And the thing about it is, is what I told him, I said, well, what about Rafiki? He said, well, he was the Holy Spirit. This is the Holy Spirit. I said, he was a witch doctor. I said, see, you only miss one minor problem with that analogy. And that's it. And that's this is that Simba's father died and ascended to be a God. That's the New Age movement. Jesus's father has always been God. He's always been in heaven. And therefore he's never had to die and a sin to be an ascended master. So how do we protect our children from this? Get them out of the public schools? I would say number one. Yeah, yeah, that's that's it. Get them out of the public schools so they can't be affected by the Lion

King and the nefarious message of of Mufasa becoming an ascended master. Okay, give me one second. So if I shouldn't Alex Star Wars now, give me one second. Okay, give me one second. I really need. I really need to understand this correctly. Okay, because of ghost, the Lion King subtle because of E.T. Yep, because of be witched because of Sabrina the Teenage Witch, because of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. We need to take our kids out of school. I did because school is where those specific things are found. I did think that that was a strange leap that to be the conclusion of this stupid conversation about Rafiki being all right. The Holy Spirit. I don't understand what you don't get about Rafiki being the Holy Spirit.

That one's just too obvious. Timon and Pumba. Who are they? That's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. What? Yes. I mean, it's based on who fucking cares? What are we doing? What are we doing? Nala is Jonah Vark. What are we doing? Oh my God. Yeah, they're scared. Man, these guys would absolutely go apeshit if they ever heard of Escalus. They would be over for them. They'd be like, Holy shit, the crowd is supposed to be talking. There's a chorus. I don't get it. Where are they from? This is magic. This is devilry. So yeah, man, if you have Harry Potter in school, you should be able to have everyone pray in school. That sounds right. You know what I found interesting also is I was called by a lady from Knoxville, Tennessee,

and she said, this man, my daughter has to go under the Hogwarts school for witchcraft and wizardry to get into her room. And so when I called the principal, I didn't want my daughter there. And he said, okay, then write her a little note and we'll take her out of the class. But you know what my suggestion was to that is, if Harry Potter offends you, you can get a little note and go out of class. Well, why don't we say that to those who are offended about prayer in school? Yeah, why don't we sue them? But more importantly, just let them have their system. Let them have it. Hey, come leave the schools. I don't know. I think there's a slight difference between like room decorations around a popular book and sort of communal enforced

by the school organized by the school religious activities. Yeah, I mean, the thing about this is that that is exactly the point of all of the rest of it in the same way right now. There's even more of a point, but that is this is a big part. Yeah, I mean, the right now, the right wing is making up a way of fictional Antifa to be the victim of in order to consolidate their insane power already right and in the same way CRT in order to get rid of any kind of totally troubling history. Totally can't have can't let people see Harry Potter in schools or I say, you know, just to be fair, right, we should allow prayer to be in schools all the time. I'm just saying and it's about fairness, Dan. It's a fairness argument. I'm going to maliciously

misinterpret Harry Potter as an actual religion. Yes, absolutely. In order to justify me bringing religion into schools, right, that will eventually be enforced. I mean, the obvious thing that he doesn't understand is the point that he's really making is that Harry Potter and Christianity are both equally fictional. Now, won't you think of the children? Actually, I'm refusing to think of the children ever again. I'm done thinking of the children. You're a monster. I am. Now, just think of the kids who don't like Harry Potter. They're ostracized. Never. I didn't like Harry Potter. And I was fine. Did this happen to you? Yeah, why don't we sue them? But more importantly, just let them have their system. Yeah, out of there. But the point is they ostracized

the children. You're a weirdo for leaving. Oh, exactly. I should know that. But they called them muggles. They called her a muggle. A muggle in Harry Potter's books is supposed to be a non witch or sorcerer. It's a natural person, someone who doesn't believe in magic. So when the girl left the room, they called her muggle, muggle, muggle, muggle. Now, could you imagine what kind of uprising would have been if someone like a Hindu or say a Muslim didn't want to pledge allegiance to the flag or didn't want to say in godly trust or had to pray and they had to leave and everybody said Muslim, Muslim, Muslim, Muslim. Oh, there have been all kind of lawsuits. But see, you know why it is? Alex is because Christians don't say anything. Don't do it.

Don't say, don't say the only 100 percent false real thing that you've said. I mean, what if kids were rude to minorities? And see, but here's the other thing. That's again. So ridiculous. That is again one of those things about Harry Potter that a close reading would analyze so fucking differently. The thing about Harry Potter is that the slur that wizards use against muggle, muggle, muggle. Wizards use the slur mudblood against wizards with non magical parents. Right. But they are all fine. And it's a horrible thing to use the mudblood. Oh, it's a horrible slur. All of them use muggle all the time. Yeah. Just like no problem whatsoever. Just this slur about a class of people who are non magical don't give a fuck about. Yeah. Yeah.

Just all the time it's those types of thing where it's like, oh, this slur is bad for the people I like. And it's fine to give slurs around for all the people that aren't involved with our fun story. Sure. But it's it's silly to be like the trauma of people calling her a muggle. See again. And then can you imagine what the uproar would be if this happened to somebody of a minority group and right? It does. Yeah. Quite a bit. And there is not an uproar. They don't do it. You wouldn't give a shit about that. Yep. You would be like, well, you got to take it on the chin if your traditions are different than ours or or whatever the fuck. The only thing that's important is that we are always the victims and you should do whatever we say. Yeah. Because we're the victims.

Yep. Yep. Yay. So look, I mean, obviously you should be able to pray in school if you're Harry Potter there. But there's another thing that you should be forced to teach. Make that argument. I'm not. The thing about it is, is, you know, they are there. These, these principles and everything are taught how to handle us rowdies. See, they're taught how to handle us. I mean, we're, we're the weird ones. We're the friends when they say, well, you need to be a free thinker. Well, you know, if you think that's the case, then why don't you let the teachers teach the left behind series to their children? You know, or at least read Christian novels. I mean, there's some good Christian novels that are out there, stuff like that one. Oh, they'd never

think about that, but they can teach witchcraft and no cultism. They're not. That argument is pretty cute. And I think it's kind of funny that David thinks Harry Potter is in any way similar to left behind thematically or in like the intent of the writing or even the quality of the book. It's, it's silly. But there's a much bigger problem to deal with here. The books of left behind are very, very specifically a story about a pre tribulation rapture. The rapture happens. And then those who weren't saved are quote left behind in the rapture. It's essentially the whole point of that 16 book series. I don't care about this at all. But Alex thinks pre tribulation rapture preaching is heresy. He is a strong post trib guy. And it's pretty funny to hear someone bring up

left behind on his show and see him not get mad about it. He should be furious about the suggestion that left behind be taught in schools probably more so than Harry Potter. Oh, I know. We've talked about left behind before. Yeah, he should be furious about the idea of left behind being evoked on his show. It's the exact wrong image of the tribulation and the rapture that actually is insidiously teaching the Patriots and the Christians to not be ready to fight. Exactly. And so like he should be furious and he's not considering how furious I've seen him get about just somebody saying pre-trib might be real. This, the novel series being recommended for children in public schools seems very odd. Yeah. Yeah. I think that there's also a very strong

difference between the notion of a school teaching Harry Potter or allowing kids to read Harry kids would be allowed to read left behind as recreational. I read left behind. I read like five of the novels and then I was shocked that they kept going. Yeah. Yeah. Bananas. I think that if I recall correctly, when they made a movie of that, they, my dad got like a press copy or something. Nicholas Cage in that. No, no, this is the Cameron one. Oh, this is the, okay, I got you. I think they wanted him to write a blurb or something. I remember him being very not interested. I have a vague memory of that. Really nails how dumb Christianity is. So look, there's Christians. Sure. They don't do anything and that's why

their kids are called muggles in school or whatever. Right. Right. Right. Right. And also I will say that this is an interesting fact that David brings up this, this next clip. It's an interesting fact that would help him connect with the children and then immediately lose them. You know, I read the other day where, you know, the day long leg spiders, they have their venom is more powerful than the black widow. Are we doing this? But the reason why most people don't know that is because the day long leg spider cannot open its mouth wide enough and click the things into the human. You know, when I heard that and read that, you know what I said, Alex? I said, that's just like Christianity. We're more powerful than the

homosexuals. You don't say anything. Whoa. What? Hold on. You know, you know, you know, took a turn. The jumping. Jumping spiders. We are watching Olympic level, triple leaps of logic that I cannot understand whatsoever. But it also kind of indicates to you what they're actually talking about. What they're actually mad about. He's not mad about Harry Potter. Yeah. He's mad about like feeling like people are too gay and Alex thinks that there's too much promiscuity and dating shows and they don't feel like their ideas are in control of public education. Right. You know, that's really what they're mad about. I don't care about a book about a boy wizard. It seems like everywhere I turn, the world that I had beaten into me when I

was a child is not the same. Yeah. I don't know. These people are fucked up. Yeah. They're just fucking stuff. And one of the things that I find also, you know, like, you know, take the monstrousness and the clear overt homophobia out of this and you kind of have a clunky metaphor. You have many clunky. Well, because think about this. The daddy long legs is a venomous spider. True. But it can't bite you because it can't open its mouth up big enough to bite you. Stroke of luck on our part. Now he's saying that the Christians are like that. They're more venomous than other groups. Yes. Great. Let's leave that aside that it's venomousness. Right. But he's saying they're unwilling to flex that muscle or use that venom. Sounds like Christianity. I

know it's not like the daddy long legs can't bring itself to bite you. No, it can't physically. Yeah. So if this is analogous at all, then the Christians can't physically use this power. They are unable to exert this, this quote unquote extra venomousness that they have. Yes. It's not a choice for the daddy long legs. It's nature. It's their jaw. Right. Right. I would say it's a bad metaphor. I would say the metaphor might make more sense if you said that Christians were filled with venom and, you know, they didn't bite people, but they just kept fucking bothering me. You know, you know, you know what? You know, it's teaching the kids devilry. What was that? Venom to carnage. I can't wait to see it. I'm looking forward to it. Devilry. Let there be

carnage, Dan. So speaking of carnage, this next clip is really, really upsetting. And after the stupidity and nonsense of Harry Potter and Rafiki being the Holy Spirit. Rafiki is the Holy Spirit. I'm going to defend that one. This really fucking upset me. We're more powerful than the homosexuals. Jesus don't say anything. We're more powerful than the atheists. We just won't say anything. We're more powerful than the one worlders. We just won't say anything. You know, people say, Oh, you could never get prayer back in school. Let me tell you something. You blow up a couple of bills. Everybody wants to pray. Where were they? I'll say ACLU at that time. You know, America is loaded with Christianity. They just don't, they just bow down to everything.

Well, I go on a lot of Christian stations and some of them, it's just don't, don't speak out, be quiet, go along. Oh yeah. So I can't tell if what he's saying is everybody love to pray after 9 11 or if he's saying, you say we can't get prayer back in school. Let's blow up some buildings and see if you pray. It could go either way. It could go either way. It's at least in articulately. Could be both. It's in articulately delivered to the point where I think those are both readings of right and that's fucked up. Right. What he could have said was there are no atheists in a foxhole. Sure. You know, that is, if that's his intent, right, then that's what he should have said. No one is going to then create foxholes in

order to create Christians. Yeah, it wasn't like what we should do with the create a foxhole. Christian thing. What we should do is we should kill a lot of people to make them get into foxholes and then they won't be atheists anymore. See, that's what God wants us to do, Dan. It's a longer walk and that really was like, wow. I mean, I think that this is what like one of the, if he's trying to say like people were very religious after 9 11, if that's what he was trying to say, he said it in about the worst and most sort of irresponsible way. I can imagine. Sure. You know, I mean, for, for me, if I was going to listen to his, we could do all of these things, but we stay quiet about it. I would ask how many

atheist presidents there were or how many, I mean, let's say how many elected representatives throughout America's history, you don't want to openly profess to not having any religious beliefs whatsoever. You don't want to play this game because they'll just argue that the most presidents are secret statements and secret atheists. I'm not, I'm not playing the game with them. There was never any point to do it. It's just like, how can you be that stupid? You know, George Washington was the only president who didn't read Harry Potter. Might as well have been. So can you imagine Jordan going back 150 years and telling a church about Harry Potter? Cause David Ben-Wall can't. Again, it's been a process of changing people's mind.

Exactly. See, it's like I was, I was thinking in the church the other day that 156 years old, they were celebrating their 156th anniversary. And I said, could you imagine if I came to this church 156 years ago and said that there would be a boy named Harry Potter and that he was going to be attending the Hogwarts School for Witchcraft and Wizardry and that children would be reading the book in church. Youth pastors would be having activities surrounding that. I said the people in that church would have thought I was crazy, but they're not anymore. They're doing it all over the country. And we're bad for saying it's bad. I don't know how many churches necessarily were using Harry Potter. I mean, I don't know what they would use it for. I don't know what youth

groups need to have assigned reading necessarily other than the Bible. Well, I mean, you know, the power goes out. You know, you know, I learned the blight spell. I guess there are some youth groups and churches probably that didn't ban Harry Potter. Maybe that's what he's responding. So proud. So proud. So I mean, like, sure, you go back to 156 years before. But like, I mean, there are other books. I will tell you this. Like, what would that church think of gullivers travels? I will tell you this. If you are tiny people, if you go back to 1846 and you told them that children would be into witches, they would be like, you're fucking right. They are and we got to stop them. Let's go. Let's get our torches and pitchforks because in 1856, we totally believe riches,

witches are real. There is like, like a Macabeth. There are witches and other things. They've been written before Harry Potter. Yeah. Also Frankenstein, that book. Church is probably mad about that. It came out in 1818. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. No, do you know what they were? I'll tell you this. Do you know what the book churches were most mad about? What's that? When it came out? The fucking Bible. Oh, yeah. They had a lot of, they were furious about that. Various books within it and the canonization. And yeah, there was a lot of trouble with that. Oh, man. I, you don't even want to know what happened when they started printing it for everyone to read. Oh, that was scandalous. Tried to cancel it. I am not joking. Christians wanted to cancel the

Bible. They were trying to shadowban the Bible. Shadowbanning it. You know where the Bible traveled? It went the same direction as porn. It traveled all through the same underground porn traveling system in the 15 fucking hundreds. Great. Christians are dumb. So look, I think that we now know because we're in 2021, Blackjack, that the end was not near in 2002, as it were. We were, we weren't, we're in double overtime now. Yeah, we were in, we were in fourth quarter over time. If so, we got some tough things coming. That's the trick. It's so far fetched when we reported, but when they start saying it, people have heard us say it and they go, well, so what? Everybody's doing it. You see, that, that's the fine line that we deal with every day, Alex.

So only a few years away from the Aztec kingdom where everybody was doing it. A few years. We're only a few years away from euthanasia that's already in northern Europe. We're only a few years away. It's already here. Exactly. And so when you start reporting it, you're, you're crazy. And yet when Walter Cronkite or when somebody else gets up there are, are, you know, Dan rather, Dan rather Ted Koppel or somebody like that. Oh, yeah. Well, that's, that's something, huh? Yeah, it is something. And if Walter Cronkite did deliver this news that we're a few years away from being the Aztec kingdom with human sacrifice and witchcraft and all this shit, I would say he's crazy too. I would not, I would not give him, you know,

why he's respected because he didn't say shit like that. He did not say shit like that. Yes. That was one of the reasons that people were like, Oh, I can trust this person not to say shit like that. Exactly. Yeah. I think that maybe there's a little bit of backwardsness here. Like, Oh, he's so respected, but if he said that there were witches, like, no, no, no, he's respected because he doesn't, he doesn't do that shit. You could be, you could be too. If you did a better job. Yeah. I wish I had more recordings of like that type of old man whining of that. Like, I don't understand the children these days from, from every era, you know, so I could just bring, like in conversation with my family or anything like that, just bring that out and be like,

Hey, are you really mad about that? Is that a huge problem for you? Is that a huge culture issue that you need to talk about? Let's take a look at the other ones that you are just as important as this one. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think we've talked about it before. I even checked myself a little bit about that whenever there's something that I just don't understand. Like, even TikTok for me is a little bit like, it gives me that sort of, if I were a little bit less examined in my sort of daily life, I might be like these fucking kids. It might be something that I would feel like this generation has really lost it. Oh man. I don't. I recognize is there something that I've pardoned the expression been left behind and that's fine.

I mean, I just, I think one of the major problems is that it seems like the generation after us is just better. They're just way better people. They're more connected. They're smarter. I think you might be airing on the other side. You might be going to pendulum swinging a little too far. They're not all Greta. I get that. Sure. I get that. But you know what? You know what Greta doesn't have a mark on her forehead, but everybody else does. You know, I've been talking about these microchips. As a matter of fact, you realize that when Harry Potter first came to America for his book, they sent out 365,000 little stickers. And you know, Harry Potter has a lightning bolt on his forehead and it's a scar.

And so all these children got these little big stickers and they were all putting them right on their forehead, just like Harry Potter. You see, so that you start looking at that, even in Lion King, where Simba was anointed on his forehead. I show pictures of that. And then, you know, the US news and world report sometime ago had a child on his front cover with a bar mark right on his forehead, mark code right on his forehead. Oh man, it's microchip shit. Jesus. I don't understand how we're also like getting so far afield from witches. You know, like this is supposed to be about witches on Halloween and now the Lion King is being used to put forth a microchip conspiracy. Like I've really, I think they've lost the thread. I think it would go

so far as to be evidence for them not actually believing witches are real and just using it as a cudgel to get through their other more important bullshit. Yeah, it's kind of a splitter that they can use to have their other agendas be more interesting. Oh yeah. And they would appear to be otherwise. Yeah, I think Second Amendment rights are important. Cool. Hey, I think Second Amendment rights are important because witches are coming. All right, I'm listening. Hold on. All right, what else you got? Yeah, I think also they're a little bit defensive. Because witches aren't real? Maybe. Okay. But they're a little defensive that people think that they're bad because they're against witches or something. This is so stupid. Okay. Like when you talk about witches, witches

were bad. And then all of a sudden, well, they're not so bad. But we're kooks. Exactly. See, there was a long time that people said all witches are just make-leaf. When they jumped that line from witches are make-leaf, and now, well, so what? I mean, freedom of speech, freedom of religion in America. And they're grabbing our kids and doing this. Well, the website, gloryministries.com, a link to it, on infowars.com. What will you be doing this Sam Hain, this Halloween night tomorrow? Well, tomorrow night, I will actually be traveling, and I'll be doing some programs down in Florida. And so I'll be out of pocket tomorrow. But I'll tell you what, it's not that I won't be praying about some things because I realize

there are a lot of children. And here's another thing, even if, Alex, this was not an occult practice or occult day, anybody will take their children and walk through the neighborhood taking candy from anybody who'll open up a door is stupid. Okay. Aren't, what? Don't trust anyone. Aren't you supposed to be like everyone's evil? You're supposed to be about community and neighbors. Demons are everywhere. Okay. Don't even say hi to your neighbors. I mean, obviously, I do think that sending a child who's, you know, a young child alone. Unaccompanied? I think that is dangerous for probably an issue through the reasons of like, you never know who's out there, but then even from like, what if they trip and fall and hurt themselves? Totally. You know, like, yeah, you

need to, but that's your responsibility as a parent, as having to do with demons. Right. Now, the other thing I think is being very clearly intentionally misrepresented here in a very hilarious way is the like, for the longest time, they said, witches were bad, but and they're not real. People were like, oh, they're not real. And now everyone's like, ah, who cares? Now, the ah, who cares is not society being like, yeah, they do magic. All right. Yeah. Fine. Yeah. It's being like, who cares? Yeah. It's a little different than society just being like, all right, we'll accept it. Okay, fine. Witches are real and they do magic all the time, but let's not worry about it. We need to regulate cauldron sales. I mean, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. This is really dumb. Sometimes,

you know, if, see the thing about being a witch and I'll tell you this is the only reason that they can believe in witches and also convincingly argue that they aren't dead is that because there are magical rules that they themselves imagine exist that they then impose upon witches. Like, if witches were real and magic is real, explain to me why eyesight's important or distance or anything along those lines. Like if a witch was like, holy shit, Alex is blowing the whistle on all of our witch shit. Let's take away his voice. They could just take away his voice. It wouldn't even be hard. Nope. He gets boils one day and he has to go to the doctor and he's dead. It's the point of magic. You don't have the rules the rest of us do. Well, but then he's going to

be like, no, no, no, they can only do it if they have a block lock of your hair. Fuck off. Yeah. I mean, there have to be limitations in order to make this make sense within the actual world we live in. Exactly. Yes. There has to be an explanation for why there aren't magical things happening all the time. If it were this easy to learn how to do magic. Yeah. Yeah. Or possible to learn how to do. How would they keep it secret because it's fucking magic? Yeah. What are you talking about? Jordan, do you think you should trick or treat? Interesting. Okay. You and David Benoit have hit an impasse. He thought about it for a while. Well, you guys are not in agreement. I mean, the whole thing's bad news. But again,

everybody's doing it. So it must be good. Well, you know, Casey had to live in somebody's neighborhood, you know, and all these rapists and these pedophiles, they live in people's neighborhoods. What? What are we doing? You stop and think about that, that for 364 days of the year, we tell our children not to take anything from a stranger. And then one night of the year, we walk around picking up anything that can hand something out. Well, law enforcement numbers show it. A massive amount of children are kidnapped a week before it's the biggest upsurge of the year. Before Halloween and then the years later, they find them in some pasture that are poor little skeletons. And they put that in the back of the paper, which shows me

there's an agenda to cover this job. Okay, prove that. Let's see those law enforcement numbers. If there's an agenda to cover it up, you have a responsibility. You owe their poor little skeletons the coverage of this very specifically in order to get the word out about the evils of the, I guess, universal kidnapping ring that's going on on Halloween. Now, I think that this is really fucked up because I thought this was about witches and Harry Potter and and shit. And now apparently it's about your neighbors being creeps. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I thought I was supposed to be afraid of the occult, not the predatory guy who lives down the street. No, anybody could be the predatory. He's not a witch. This is cult shit. He's a

perv. He's not a witch. This is isolate from anyone who can disagree with. Yeah. This is a, look, if you wanted to say that trick or treating is bad, I mean, whatever you want to say about candy is fine. But part of trick or treating is that it is a communal ritual and that you go around to complete strangers homes. They smile. You smile. They give you candy, not always complete strangers either. If you know people in your neighborhood, totally reinforcing community thing where you dress up and then people answer the door and they're like, Oh, look at you. Look at that costume. This is good. Yeah. This is good. And guess what else it is? It's about realizing that the people around you are just people like you and that most of us are fucking

chill. Most of us are except for that guy who's pretending he's dead. So he can scare. Yeah, fuck that guy. That guy shouldn't be. That's why we shouldn't trick or treat. Yeah. I think that yeah, the message is basically don't trust anybody except those who would be willing to join in with our paranoia and have our community of paranoid weirdos who are scared of everybody else. Right. Do not go meet other people with different backgrounds. Unless they look different unless they do a handshake with a gun. Exactly. Yes. Absolutely. Then they're good people. Yeah. It's just called isolation shit. Yeah. We have one last clip here. This is how the interview ends and it's a real eye roller. Years later, they find them in some passion or poor little poor little

skeletons and they put that in the back of the paper, which shows me there's an agenda to cover this up. Well, they don't need to kidnap children. I mean, all they got to do is perform human sacrifice to buy abortion. That happens every day. 15 million. Thanks for joining us. They've been a lot of great info on your site. We appreciate you. Thank you so much. God bless y'all. You but take care. Wow. Boo. Bizarre political messages that just get thrown in really stray like on the side. The anti-abortion, the pro-second amendment kind of stuff. It's like, I thought we're talking about witches. What's happening here? I mean, it is like borderline. Witches are terrible. They use magic. They worship the devil. Also, trans people are evil. But witches are the ones

we're talking about here. Trans people are evil. What we want to talk about mainly are witches. Abortion is going to kill everybody. What we want to talk are witches. We're stronger than the gays. Exactly. Yes, absolutely. Wow. It's like, are you trying? Yeah, it's pretty overt and I don't know. I wonder if it's a function of like, there weren't as many people listening. So this, this feels very sloppy and very dumb. Yeah. Yeah. They could just get away with this shit. Nobody's paying attention. But look, we needed to have a spooktacular. We needed to have a little break. We had to do, we never do this. But to be fair, we never did interviews. That's true. So why, and we never did special holiday episodes. So why not give it a shot? Evolve or die.

Exactly. Yes. And so now every holiday, we're doing themed holidays. I want a Valentine's Day, Alex Jones. That's what I need. Alex sings. Why do I get a kick out of you? Champagne doesn't thrill me. I spent a full day. Take a look at me now. There's just an empty space. Hello. Is it me you're looking for? It's a different tone when he's singing hello. It does a little bit different. Is it me you're looking for? Officer. So we'll we'll in earnest actually get to present him. I just found his behavior so abhorrent. And I was like, we got to do a Halloween thing. I swear to you, those first few clips set a table that I was genuinely like, this is going to get dark. Yeah. And a big part of this too was that I was poking around on the

website and uncovered that interview. And honestly, if you see the name author of 14 things, which is hope parents never find out on the occult and the real meaning of Halloween, bringing America to its knees. That's a spook. How do you resist? That's a spook. Tackling. I can't have this interview sitting in my archives and like think like, oh, we'll get to it in March. No, you can't. You've got to strike while the iron's hot and the iron is now cooled. So happy. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. And happy. Happy not Halloween to anybody who doesn't. I want to wish a happy sound to anybody who celebrates and happy Sam Hain to anybody who doesn't.

Anyway, we'll be back. We have a website. You can go from my website and learn witchcraft magic. I think we also have don't kill your family.com now. I believe I saw that one. Thank you. Also, we are on Twitter. We are Twitter. It's at knowledge of discord fight. That go to bed. Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. You're a traitor, Dan. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.