Knowledge Fight - #612: October 31, 2021

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan actually get back to the present day to find out what Alex's take is on the Lincoln Project's recent publicity stunt, and a piece that Jim Acosta did about Tucker Carlson on CNN.... Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George. Knowledge Fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air thanks for holding us. Hello Alex, I'm a Christian color and I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge Fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I love you. I love you. everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're going to do it like sit around. Where should for the altar of S introductions. We are Dan, Jordan, Jordan and quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot? My bright
Starting point is 00:01:12 spot today, Jordan, is I started watching finally. I started watching better call Soul. Ah, yes. And I figured out why people like it. It's good. It's very good. Except that's basically Yeah. Very enjoyable. A little different than I expected, honestly, even from the hype that people had surrounding it. But I've enjoyed it in a different way than I expected. And well done, folks. Yeah. Made a nice show. Plus one. Yeah. You know, it's what's great about better calls all is it's deeply funny in certain situations. Yeah, it's so willing to lean into how funny that it can be. And then in the next, it can totally change the tone and you're still in. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of like emotional feeling. There's a
Starting point is 00:01:57 sentiment and then also good comedy. Oh, yeah. Well done. It's rare instance. I think we're like something has actually lived up to or exceeded the hype that I had in my head. Yeah. For thing like a lot of times people tell me to watch something. I'll put it off and then I'll watch it and I'll be like, well, that was all right. Or like, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah. It's a goddamn squid game like Mortal Kombat. No one told me to watch that. No, that was all you. Yeah. I told myself to watch that. Yeah. But it's always exciting when something's like, ah, ha, ha, I get it. Yeah. So anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is my partner and I, we went to see Sylvan Esso at the Aragon Ballroom over
Starting point is 00:02:40 there. Fantastic. Sure. It was amazing. They were great. Awesome. Finally, a music act that I've heard of that you bring up. But you remember, I showed you that the clip of them doing the live performance. I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Where they've got the band all together in a circle plan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. That's this, this concert was really, really great, but it also helped me remember that I'm not just an old crank. Like, I like the, I like analogue music. You know, I'm not like that. It's better with a live band. You know, it's, they were, their live show touring is the two of them, the producer and the incredibly talented singer. And it's, it's great. They, their music is really good. But
Starting point is 00:03:25 when you've got a couple of drummers, when you've got guitarists, when you've got real musical instruments, it's just better. I think that's the whole premise of the roots. I know. It's just better. It's so good. That's great. I'm glad you had a good time. Yeah. So Jordan, today, we are talking about finally getting back into the present. I would say that this is a sneaky snake episode. It's Wednesday, but technically I think the sneaky snake was Monday when we had a spectacular. It was a spook, tackler, a sneaky snake, tackler, a snook, tackler, sneaky, sneaky snook, tackler. Okay. But today you are getting a back to the present. We're looking at October 31st Halloween. I got lost. I was too busy going to trick you with the full start of Halloween.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You got me. The Halloween was like an eyebrow face in basketball. And then you drain to the three after I fell down and broke my ankles. Yeah. This is Sunday's show. Halloween. It stinks. Spoilers. All right. Okay. All right. How are we doing? There's some interesting stuff to talk about and, you know, all that, but it's, if I had to rate it in terms of Alex's shows, it's not in the top tier. Not in the top tier. No. And we'll get down to business on that. But first, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Wyatt, thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Wyatt. Thank you. Next, Jordan. Thank you so much. You're not you. Not me. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy
Starting point is 00:04:52 wonk. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. Next, Ella. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Ella. Thank you. Next, Allen. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Allen. Thank you. And finally, we've got a technocrite here, Jordan. This is, oh boy. I don't know if this is poking fun at my inability to pronounce names. Okay. Okay. But my fiance's Irish friends and family pronounce my name Craig, but it's pronounced Craig. Thank you. You're now a technocrite. I don't know if I mispronounced the mispronunciation correctly. Oh boy. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. All right. So how would you pronounce this? Okay. C. R. A. Y. Obviously, Craig. Yes. Dash G. E. H. Craig. Yeah. No, I if he if he's talking about Irish, Craig, if he's talking about Irish, no, no, no, his fiance's Irish friends and family pronounce his name Craig, but it's actually Craig dash G. E. H. Okay. Okay. Here's what I would say knowing what I know about how Irish people talk. I don't think he's Irish. No, he's not Irish, but it's Irish that's important here because they're pronouncing it more like crack, which is in Irish, not it's not crack. It means good. I'm essentially I'm seeing a phonetic
Starting point is 00:06:33 spelling of how it's actually pronounced, but not one for how the Irish people pronounce it. Yeah. Chances are they pronounce it. It's a crag aggro. Yes. It's probably that. Anyway, this mystery shall not be solved. But thank you. Here is an out of context drop Jordan for today from from the episode. How Hitler. He'll probably edit me out saying that and say, look, Jones just hauled Hitler. Oh, well, I did. Yeah. No, no, no, we can do that. That is available at any time. Uh-oh. How Hitler. Hope we don't accidentally use that for nefarious purposes. Dan, you're a traitor. How Hitler. Oh, no. Oh, boy. So we start off today's episode and there's a couple of main stories that Alex is is preoccupied with. And the first one
Starting point is 00:07:25 is one that is going to annoy everybody across the board. Again, thank you for joining us on this Sunday, October 31st broadcast. Wow. The incredible amounts of news here. First off, Democratic Party operatives got caught again like they did in Charlottesville four years ago, leading the attempt to stir up racial conflict so that they can try to derail an election and make sure that a Democrat gets into power and replaces the other Democrat, the monster, Governor Northam that's leaving. Caught red handed right during the national firestorm of basically every newspaper and every so-called news TV program attacking Tucker Carlson and by extension, yours truly. We're daring to say that January 6th had feds and NGOs, by the way,
Starting point is 00:08:23 provocaturing what like the Red Cross minority of the million people that were there for a peaceful demonstration to break into the Capitol. Alex has never and will never present any compelling evidence that either the Unite the Right rally in 2017 or the storming of the Capitol on January 6th were provocatured or somehow run by shadowy forces in the government or some unnamed NGO like the Red Cross. Right. Right. Right. The standard that's required to claim that something is proven is so low on this show that he can just get away with saying whatever he wants is, ah, it's proven. Anyway, as for the current situation, it has to do with a dirty trick type stunt that the Lincoln Project pulled on Virginia gubernatorial candidate Glenn Yunkin. They had
Starting point is 00:09:06 five people dress up in khakis and hold tiki torches near Yunkin's bus during a photo op and voice support for the GOP candidate. Right. There's a number of angles to this whole thing, but I wanted to say upfront, so it's totally clear that I'm entirely opposed to what the Lincoln Project did. The first and most important reason is that it kind of stunt like this strikes me as a bit disrespectful to the folks in the community and the activists who are at the Unite the Right rally. At very least, it seems like a co-opting in a very crass way of their experience and trauma and using that as a prop for a political rally. Second, this just isn't an effective strategy and it's tailor made to backfire. The intent was allegedly to create a spectacle that
Starting point is 00:09:47 would highlight Yunkin's bigotry and shittiness, but that was never going to be the outcome. And it's kind of hard for me to believe that the Lincoln Project, a group of Republican strategists who made their brand just not liking Trump, wouldn't know that the right-wing media as it exists would completely tear this apart and immediately shift the conversation to being about how this stunt proves that the left is just creating fake white supremacists to be mad at and make you scared of and how January 6th was really the Democrats fault when you get right down to it. I cannot in good faith believe that the specific people who run the Lincoln Project would be so naive as to not know that this is the result that would happen and that their
Starting point is 00:10:25 actions actively hurt the cause that they're pretending to support. I find that difficult. Yeah, I mean, all I saw was Republicans dressing like Republicans. I didn't see a stunt at all. Well, sure. The problem is like the various people that were actually the people who dressed up may have been Democrats themselves. And then that creates the entire optics of a Democrat dirty trick or whatever. Don't care. Sure. Fuck them. As for what Alex is saying, all of this is completely detached from reality. The Lincoln Project is not the left, as Alex claims. The Lincoln Project sucks, and it's not aligned with the left, nor is it even as left leaning as the Democratic Party. There are essentially a bunch of Republicans who read the
Starting point is 00:11:10 room and they realized they didn't want to be on Trump's side and decided to work in anti-Trump but pro-conservative grift targeted at Democrats desperate to find some Republicans who weren't evil. A May 2020 report from Open Secrets pointed out the following, quote, the Lincoln Project reported spending nearly $1.4 million through March. Almost all of that money went to the group's board members and firms run by them. The Super PAC spent nearly $1 million with Summit Strategic Communications, a firm run by Lincoln Project Treasurer Reed Galen. Another $215,000 went to the Tusk Digital, a company run by Lincoln Project Advisor Ron Steslow. Both companies received little business from other federal committees since Trump's inauguration. A February
Starting point is 00:11:55 2021 piece on the Huffington Post reports that over $50 million of the $90 million the Lincoln Project had raised had, quote, gone to firms controlled by the group's leaders. I have a strong suspicion that these folks are just running a scam and if you needed to be further persuaded of this, I would submit to you the response that their co-founder Steve Schmidt gave when asked about their financial sketchiness. Quote, we fully comply with the law. The Lincoln Project will be delighted to open its books for audit immediately after the Trump campaign and all its affiliated Super PACs do so, explaining the cash flow of nearly $700 million that flowed through their organizations controlled by Brad Pascale and Jared Kushner. I don't know if I could come up with a
Starting point is 00:12:37 response that makes you look more guilty than that, but that one wasn't that good. No, no, no, no, you don't get it. We'll open our books in the exact same way that the theoretical evil person that we don't like should open his books. And since he won't, we won't, thus proving we're morally superior to him. I know you are, but what am I? And these other evil people kind of, they make the same argument that they'll do it when some other person. Oh, totally. No. And if Obama did it, then I would do it. Yeah. It's just a game of fucking dominoes and it's really stupid. Yeah. The conservative grift is like a fucking pouring water in an uneven tile floor below sea level. Just like wherever there's a hole to be filled with money, they will find it. Yeah. And
Starting point is 00:13:23 one of the primary things that sparks suspicion about their business model at the Lincoln Project isn't just that the money seems to flow to Lincoln Project folks, other companies. Very suspicious. But it is, but that's not the only thing. No, not the only problem. The real kicker is that they spend a suspiciously high percentage of their budget on producing their ads. As the article in Open Secrets points out, they spent $19,000 on an ad against Martha McSally, but only one quarter of that amount was spent on ad placement, quote, with the rest spent on production costs. These are, of course, production costs that are paid to companies that are run by the people in charge of the Lincoln Project. And you can write those off. That three quarters of the budget
Starting point is 00:14:02 going to production costs is juxtaposed with that of the pro Trump super PAC America first action, which had production costs at about 2%, quote, with the rest of their budget going to ad buying. The Lincoln Project are not anyone's friend, but their own. And to drive that point home, think about the fact that if George W. Bush was president right now, their organization wouldn't exist. They don't really care about the things they want you to think they care about. They just want you to think that they do so they can fundraise. Also, they had to cut ties with one of their co founders, John Weaver, after multiple allegations of him, quote, sexually harassing young men looking to break into politics came to the surface. Great. To their credit, they did
Starting point is 00:14:41 put out a statement denouncing Weaver in January 2021. To the opposite of their credit, they knew about the quote, at least 10 specific allegations of harassment since June 2020, and chose to ignore it until the owl that the American conservative began reporting on the allegations. Anyway, this stupid stunt that they tried to pull at the young kid event is exactly what you would expect from them. It's flashy. It seems like it's making a point, but it actually isn't. And it's red meat for the right wing media. The important thing to understand about this is that regardless of the motivation for their actions with what the Lincoln project did is counterproductive and they should just stop. No, I mean, ultimately, the Lincoln project exists to create a group of people more
Starting point is 00:15:23 than willing to lean into whatever right wing narrative is already being created about the left and thus justify it, giving them more power. And because the Lincoln project is theoretically separate from the conservative party, you can have the Lincoln project do exactly what the right needs the left or media to do that they're not doing. I don't. I wouldn't. It's not controlled opposition. I wouldn't go that. It's just like that's what's available for the grift. I wouldn't go as far as what you're suggesting kind of. And I know that you don't mean this literally, but that that kind of does end up like getting into coordination, like ideas of coordination. It's just they're smart enough to know a spot where they can. That's that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:05 They can make a little bit of they can get a piece of the attention economy and use it to fundraise totally and make a lot of money. No, that's great. I mean, because the thing is what can happen. And it's I'm not saying that it's like collusion or that they're they're operating in right. I don't. I don't think that you were saying that it just sounded too close. I can totally totally understand that. I just mean like when there is a spot for the left media that the right wants to hate, right? The right will always go to that left media as well, because they hate it so much in the same way that they are afraid of their own media. So they constantly go back to that. So there's a grift to be made there. They make it and it just so happens to dovetail perfectly
Starting point is 00:16:50 with what they already want, right? You know, and I think the other thing too is that by doing these stunts and also being like, we don't like Trump. Yeah, we're cool. Yeah, they allow themselves to be portrayed as actually Democrats. Oh, no, the the so that's what's useful. The media slobbers all over themselves to portray them as Democrats nonstop. Just like look at what these brave conservatives are doing. Right. Right. And then they they can be painted as actually secret Democrats by the right wing media and it allows them to perpetuate the cycle. The whole grift is there. Yeah. It's not even hard. And so what it's all really about is that the left is freaking out because Tucker Carlson is doing this documentary thing about the Patriot Purge. Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Sure. With January 6th. Yeah. Yeah. They're mad that people are mad at Goebbels. Yeah. And there's Tucker's show. He's gonna be covering it all week on Fox. Well, they're all freaking out about the three part series that starts airing tomorrow night. The plotting is the people and the left is celebrating that it's only available on Fox Nation to a few million people. Tucker's ratings are going to go up to all time high and he's going to be covering it all week with the biggest highlights and proof. So just watching Tucker play the left like a fiddle and really torch all their fraud is a beautiful thing. It's even more satisfying when I get the credit and it is a little bit to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Let's just say I helped wake up Tucker and Joe Rogan. Cool. I don't think that I mean this is pathetic because Alex, I don't think he is dealing with reality that Tucker Carlson would throw him under the bus in a second if it helped his ratings. Oh, in an instant. Yeah. Whenever the whenever the wind blows in another direction, Tucker will get his bow tie back or whatever. You know, like he's not. No, yeah. Alex didn't wake him up. He showed him a profitable lane to to be able to have an audience. Yeah. No. When the wind changes, he and John Stewart are going to go on a tour debating for 25 cities in six months or whatever, and that's they're going to be millionaires again all over again. Stupid. Whatever the case may be, Alex pretending that
Starting point is 00:19:20 he woke him up somehow and like that whatever Tucker is doing now is somehow like, oh, this is the sincere version of what he really is getting into the facts. No, no. This is just his brand now. Give him a couple, give him a couple years, see where he's at. Yeah. Anyway, this is really just about white people. I always was. And how under attack they are. White people have it bad. Oh, no. They got all the major corporations from AT&T to Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan to you name it, saying white people are inherently bad because the color skin. I have right here and I got copies of it. The critical race theory training put out by the CEO signed by him. CEO critical. A copy of it of the critical race theory training for all AT&T employees.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It actually says, quote, white people are the problem. Close quote. It goes on and says white being white is inherently a genetic trait of being a bad person. I mean, folks, that's 100% Hitler. It's just being reversed to say, of course, Hitler said most whites were bad too. What are you fucking talking about? You mentioned the Superman and then you had just the regular slaves with the rest of the white people and then everybody else that wasn't white. Death was actually what Hitler spoke about. So yeah, he didn't have too much problem with, wait, what? What was your point? I hear Alex talk about issues like this. I kind of wonder if he actually even understands what Hitler was up to. Why did Alex say that Hitler spoke about these
Starting point is 00:21:00 things? I don't know. That's the sort of thing you might say if you thought that maybe he didn't act on the things he spoke about. Maybe that's fucking weird. Maybe that all he did was say those things and then the media came up with this fake narrative about him doing those things. He was just asking questions, Dan. I don't know. The media always tries to hate people who ask questions. So these aren't really quotes from AT&T's training materials. It's not surprising. This is a story about race related training that had been leaked to a journalist who then made claims about the material without actually, you know, it wasn't actually citing stuff from the material. See, there's an issue. And then those claims are the things that have been
Starting point is 00:21:37 repeated by figures in the right wing media presented as being from the actual documents as opposed to a writer's interpretation of them. I just wish this was harder. For their part, AT&T released a statement saying that the reporting on this is quote, filled with misinformation and inaccuracies. And I'm going to applaud this journalist in question for actually releasing the documents in question here so I can take a look at them and see for myself. One of the problems that jumps out to me immediately when I see these documents is that it clearly what amounts to a printout of an interactive web platform, basically a program. There's like a huge selection of links in different sections,
Starting point is 00:22:13 which obviously will take you to other pages that serve as resources to inform the point of the exercise that's being undergone here. One of the big things that's constantly parroted about this document is that it teaches the employees that if white people want to know who is responsible for racism, they should look in the mirror. That formulation is in a ton of articles covering this attempt at a scandal. And here's what that comes from. It's in a section of links and it goes to an op-ed in the Chicago Tribune titled, quote, white America, if you want to know who's responsible for racism, look in the mirror. Yes, those words do appear in this document, but the context is pretty intentionally ignored by the people trying to drama about rage
Starting point is 00:22:52 about this. The op-ed was written by Deline Glanton. And for the most part, it makes a fair point from the article, quote, racism is no different from any other chronic problem. It occurs as long as it goes unchecked. Black people, for the most part, are powerless to stop racism. If we could, we would have done it a long time ago. In many ways, this op-ed shares some common themes with Martin Luther King Jr.'s letter from a Birmingham jail, particularly the part about being gravely disappointed with the white moderate. Yeah. You know, everyone has heard that. We don't need to belabor that point. MLK. If you don't know him, look him up. Pretty smart, dude. He's a good guy. Glenn's op-ed is essentially an articulation of a challenge for people who are not racist to recognize
Starting point is 00:23:36 that there are an action effectively aids racism continuing and that the change needed to get where we want to go starts within your own mind. It isn't saying that white people are evil or bad. It's just, you know, that's the interpretation you might expect a racist to have. Sure, sure, sure. Because it's kind of threatening to racism. You can either be anti-racist, racist, or you can facilitate racism, but you can't be in the middle. The thing about white people being genetically racist isn't actually from the AT&T materials, as Alex is sort of presenting it. Not surprised. But if you didn't read anything past the salacious articles about this, you might think that it was. It's actually just another misrepresentation of something from Glenn's op-ed
Starting point is 00:24:15 in the Chicago Tribune. Yeah, of course. Quote, American racism is a uniquely white trait. Black people cannot be racist towards you. Racism, by definition, is quote, prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. Black people cannot exude a sense of superiority that we have never experienced. I guess if you want to get mad about that quote, you can do that, but it would be good if you were mad at the actual context instead of a fake version of what this person's saying. Yeah, you know, and that's all that's going on. Yeah. I read over this whole document from AT&T and honestly, it's a well-intentioned but dorky attempt at a corporation to appear to be doing their part.
Starting point is 00:24:54 At the end of it, there's this 20 21 day challenge that suggests some questions to consider and some books to read, but it also includes suggestions on things like how you should stay inspired. They suggest you quote, create a soundtrack for justice playlist that fuels you and or can serve as a conversation starter with people of all ages. All right, well, now I'm mad. Their suggested soundtrack includes such dirty pictures. Don't tell me. Where is the love by the Black IPs? Brave by Sarah Barry Ellis and Roar by Katy Perry. Wow. I mean, you just don't get more justice oriented in a playlist. There's some good tracks on there too. I'm sure you'd love to know that whitey on the moon is on there. That's great.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Okay. But there's also three songs by Macklemore. So take that for what it's worth. Wow. Wow. It's not a huge playlist and there's three songs. You know, you dream of the day. Macklemore walks up to Gil Scott Herron and says, did I do a good job? And then Gil Scott Herron says, that's a cold ass honky. So the journalist who published this sensational article about the document is a guy named Christopher Rufo and that might not be a name that's familiar to most people, but it probably should be. He's essentially the entire reason that the right wing is up in arms about critical race theory. Rufo was leaked some documents from an anti-racism seminar put together by the city of Seattle's Office of Civil Rights. And after he reported on it as a scandal, he began to get
Starting point is 00:26:25 other such slideshow sent to him. According to a profile of him in the New Yorker, quote, Rufo noticed that they tended to cite a small set of popular anti-racism books by authors such as Ibrahim X. Kendi and Robin D'Angelo. Rufo read the footnotes of these books and found that they pointed to academic scholarship from the 1990s by a group of legal scholars who referred to their work as critical race theory, in particular, Kimberly Crenshaw and Derek Bell. Rufo followed that thread and decided that the entire idea of anti-racism is actually kind of a Marxist plot, which I hate to break it to him. That's exactly what the John Birch Society was saying in the 1960s when they were opposing the civil rights movement. No, this is brand new, Dan. It's critical race
Starting point is 00:27:08 theory. He uncovered this wild new thought. Did you see the video on Twitter going around of the guy who was like, what's the biggest issue in the election today, critical race there? And it's like, why are we dunking on him? All he's saying is that the biggest issue is race. He doesn't care about the critical or the theory part. He's saying this is about white people dominating. I don't understand. I think the reason that people were dunking on that video is because the follow-up question is what is it? Yeah. And he has no idea. He doesn't care. The point is it's race. Right. And we're going to get to this. Yeah. Benjamin Wallace Wells, the author of this piece in The New Yorker, corresponded with Rufo, and this is how Rufo explained his path. Quote, we've needed
Starting point is 00:27:49 new language on these issues. Political correctness is a dated term and, more importantly, doesn't apply anymore. It's not that elites are enforcing a set of manners and cultural limits. They're seeking to re-engineer the foundation of human psychology and social institutions through the new politics of race. It's much more invasive than mere correctness, which is a mechanism of social control, but it's not the heart of what's happening. The other frames are wrong, too. Cancel culture is a vacuous term that doesn't translate into a political program. Woke is a good epithet, but it's too broad, too terminal, too easily brushed aside. Critical race theory is the perfect villain. We can say race, but people won't just say,
Starting point is 00:28:28 oh, they're saying it's about white people versus everybody else. Last September, Rufo appeared on Tucker Carlson's show and put the term critical race theory on to the right wing media's map, and from there it's become the new way for conservatives to express racism while maintaining an appearance of social acceptability. I also hate to inform conservatives that they are just repeating themselves again, and for an illustration I'd like to present to you a passage from a 1981 interview with Republican strategist and Roger Stone, buddy, Lee Atwater. Oh, hey, that guy was great. Quote, you start, oh, by the way, whenever I say N, it's a hard R.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm censoring myself because I'm not Dave Antone. No, no, no, we're not doing that. Quote, you start out in 1954 by saying N, N, N. By 1968, you can't say N. That hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states rights, and all that stuff, and you're getting so abstract. Now you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things that you're talking about are totally economic things, and a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites. We want to cut this as much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell lot more abstract than yelling N, N. Hey, you know what's great? Not doing anything about a pandemic that disproportionately affects minorities over the dominant, yeah. Coding racism and abstract in
Starting point is 00:29:46 marketable ways is kind of a standard operation for conservatives, so it's not surprising to see Rufo found a new term to use to play that old game, and he thinks he's a genius. Yeah. Anyway, Trump saw him on Twitter, got him to come to DC, and helped, he helped Trump draft an executive order. Oh, great. Yep. I just love that Lee Atwater can just say it, and it doesn't matter. Right. Yep. And you just see the exact same thing, and Rufo said it. Yeah. Correspondents of the New Yorker. Yep. So that New Yorker article about Rufo also has a bit from Kimberly Crenshaw, the law professor who coined the term critical race theory years ago. I think her take on this is pretty much exactly correct. Quote, reform itself creates its own backlash, which reconstitutes the
Starting point is 00:30:32 problem in the first place, Crenshaw said, noting that she'd made this argument in our first law review article in 1988. George Floyd's murder had led to, quote, so many corporations and opinion shaping institutions making statements about structural racism, creating a new broader anti racist racist alignment, or at least the potential for one. Quote, this is a post George Floyd backlash, Crenshaw said. The reason why we're having this conversation is that the line of scrimmage has moved. As she saw at the campaign against critical race theory presented a familiar effort to shift the point of the argument so that rather than being about structural racism, post George Floyd politics were about the seminars that have proliferated to address
Starting point is 00:31:12 structural racism. I think that about sums it up. Anyway, the guy who got mad about corporate seminars and stumbled into a shiny new buzzword for racists to use to hide behind is found a new corporate seminar to be mad about and hopefully he's going to get some air time on Tucker and his career in this shitty scam can continue. Yep. Fuck all this. Yeah. The only people being really built are the idiots who run everything like everybody who's forced by the rules of television to pretend that this is valuable. And it's like, don't, don't engage with this garbage. If somebody says, oh, critical race theory, just go, okay, your problem is race. Get rid of the critical in the theory. Your problem is race. Right. The end. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:00 if you want to have like a like a conversation like this on Tucker Carlson's show about critical race theory, I would just roll up a newspaper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, can't do it. Stop it. Or just bad dog. Right in the right in the neck. Yeah. Right in the neck. A train is out. Get him a treat whenever he says it's good. Or he just doesn't talk about that. Yeah. If he stays quiet about race for a while, you get a treat. So big story. Number one is basically this Lincoln project start. Big story. Number two is there's a Jim Acosta piece and I don't normally air Jim Acosta's attacks on myself or anybody else's. He's just such a discredited joke, but Jim Acosta came out and he tried to gaslight everybody in a seven
Starting point is 00:32:51 and a half minute clip. I'm going to take two segments out today. He'll take a good 20 minutes to cover this. I'm going to just play it and stop it. Play it and stop it because everything he's saying about myself and Tucker Carlson is what he's doing. I'm rubber. He is glue. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's we had the promise of another just like analysis of a clip. Just I'm going to take this inch by inch, two segments, 20 minutes. Right. Thorough. I always kind of get excited when that happens because I know Alex is just going to like find words to hinge his responses on. Talk over any part that might involve context that could disagree with him. Yep. The whole thing. Classic. So I was looking forward to that and it comes towards the end of the episode.
Starting point is 00:33:38 The problem that the system and the establishment has with Tucker, right, is that he's emblematic of the fact that the GOP is waking up to the New World Order. Oh, I thought that it was absurdly easy to be a billionaire off of lying. Oh, no. And the sort of rhetoric is exactly what leads to people getting hurt. Yes. Terrorism. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the things, but now it's that the GOP is waking up. Okay. The entire Republican Party is waking up to the New World Order of the Globalist and the Great Reset and the rest of it. And the whole neocon arm of Carl Rove and George W. Bush and the rest of them are becoming completely obsolete. That's not even really contending anymore for power in the party. Whoever Trump certifies, whoever Trump supports at like 150 plus races,
Starting point is 00:34:30 two that he endorsed lost 150 plus one. And that doesn't mean Trump's perfect, but compared to the globalist, I mean, he's the polar opposite. So that technically isn't true. Like he's also mixing things up here because like, are we talking about general elections or primaries? Because Trump's endorsement doesn't matter in the general really. I mean, just really matters in the primaries. But he's pretty close. Alex is pretty close. It's disturbing as hell. It's so funny that when he said races, I was like, I was like, well, obviously he said racists. And then it was like out of 150 racists, he supported only two laws. And I was like, that sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. At least you're honest. So ballot pedia tracks endorsements.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And for Trump in the battleground primaries in the 2020 election, he went 21 and two among the candidates he backed. Not bad. That's even an improvement from the 2018 midterms where he went 15 and two. That's a solid record. Yeah. He has a slightly less successful batting average when those candidates get to the general election. But, you know, the numbers drop there a little bit. But honestly, that's not the claim that Alex is making, or at least it's not the relevant claim. Right. He's saying that the Bush types have lost sway in the Republican Party and that Trump is a king maker in the GOP now. The only metric that's relevant there is how these candidates do in the primary. And Trump's numbers are undeniably solid there. How's the general?
Starting point is 00:35:51 It's worse, but it's still good. It's still not bad, but it's like 70 percent or something, as opposed to a bit higher in the it's terrifying. And all it really speaks to is how badly they want a king. Yeah. Oh, totally. Just want a dictator. It's really funny watching the Democrats right now because it does feel like they're mad that lying to their electorate about doing something and then not doing it doesn't work as well as the right wing. It feels like they're like, this should work. They do it all the time. They lie to you nonstop. They didn't do any of the shit that you said that you wanted them to do. And you still love Trump. Why can't we just lie to your faces? Well, it's because their version of the lying is aspirational. Exactly. And it
Starting point is 00:36:39 doesn't actually involve the same sort of bloodthirstyness and anger that the right wing does, which are the appealing parts of it for a lot of the folks who get tricked by it over and over and over and over again. They're not going to Trump because they think Trump is going to give them health care. They're going to Trump because they think Trump is going to let them murder people. They don't want to live. Right. They don't think Trump is going to give them health care. They think they're going to. He's going to take it away from exactly. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. So hope springs eternal for that. So a problem that will be with us for the rest of our lives is that every single election will be stolen. Sure. That's the case
Starting point is 00:37:14 here in the Virginia gubernatorial race. Of course. Infowars.com. It's a headline. Trump hating Virginia elections director says Tuesday's results may have to quote wait until Friday or maybe longer because of mail in votes. And again, this isn't like absentee voters where you sign it. It's certified. You've already voted. This is a large portion of the state saying, Oh, no, we don't want to go vote because of covid a same replay we've seen across the nation. And so they've got stockpiles of all these extra ballots out there that then wait and reserve in warehouses until the middle of the night or until the next middle of the night a few days later and then in pull the vans and then they stick the ballots that are all for the
Starting point is 00:38:00 Democrat candidate into the machine. Remember, we saw the footage of that in Georgia. We saw the footage of that in Michigan. We saw the footage of that in Pennsylvania. We saw the record of that happening in Arizona. All the places that Trump won by 2345 or even up to 10 times the numbers he won in 2016 and all around states that night when they said we're not counting anymore at one or two or three in the morning, depending on the state, Trump had one by one point, two point, three points, four points, five points. Most of those states he barely won by a fraction of a point. And suddenly he was winning by two, three, four points. All this is too many numbers. I mean, if you're listening to this, first of all, it's none of
Starting point is 00:38:46 that's true. But also if you're even like listening to him and you like this, it's like, oh my god, I can't keep track of all these numbers. Alex, can you please find a folksy way to help me understand this? You know, my four year old daughter got some candy from her grandmother for Halloween. And we put it away and I told her, stop eating. You've had too much. You haven't made yourself sick last night. And I kind of walk her behind the couch and she was kind of acting suspicious when she ducked down and I went over there and she had a Tootsie roll. And it was bedtime. She couldn't have it. I mean, she's okay. Looking goes over hides behind the couch. I mean, this is more obvious in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:39:28 They look both ways, look around. They say a waterbains broke. They kick everybody out. They put stuff up over the windows and then they go and flip up the tablecloth and pull out the briefcases and look around and start shooting it through there. And we have to sit here and watch this and put up with this type of crap while these people steal the election in front of us. Yeah. So don't worry about all those numbers and stuff that Alex was talking about. The Democrats and all of the people were caught red-handed in Georgia like Alex's child with a Tootsie roll under the table. Right. I'm still kind of stuck on that order of operations problem. So I've got like 10x parentheses, two plus two points minus negative three points for
Starting point is 00:40:12 areas that he's foolish. You should not do this because you don't understand crazy math. I don't. Yes. I don't. You must understand crazy math in order to. I mean non-euclidean geometry beyond me. So a bit of what Alex is talking about like in there with the Georgia video, that's a bit of fiction that the right wing media put together to serve as a dead to rights proof that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, but it's bullshit. Well, it was like the left behind movie was dead to rights proof that we've already lived through the apocalypse. Sure. Yeah. In Georgia, there was a pipe that burst at the State Farm Arena where absentee ballots were being processed at approximately 6am on November 3rd. There's also a video that made the rounds of
Starting point is 00:40:52 what appears to be people pulling ballots out from under a table at the State Farm Arena vote counting area. That video was from about 1015 the night prior and had nothing to do with the pipe burst. Some anonymous weirdo called the hip hop patriot decided to combine the two into a compelling story, put it out on Twitter and from there it became Alex's reality. So easy. It's a way better scene for a detective novel. The way Alex is telling this story, but none of it's true. Well, that's a problem. Right. That's also why detective novels are way better than real life. Colombo would hear this and be like, Alex, one more thing. Yeah, one more thing. None of this is true. Just want to give you one more thing. No, this is bullshit. All this is a lie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You're out of your mind. Also, after what we learned on our last episode about how evil Halloween is, I can't believe Alex allows his children to take part in it. That seems really dangerous. There are so many witches out there that don't want Alex to know all the shit they're doing to his four year old right now. Right. I mean, like think about it. If this child gets a tootsie roll, she's gonna have a positive association with Halloween and that's a devilry night. It's the you can't allow this. That's when the veil between worlds is that it's finished. Any moment now she's going to be talking and she's a woman child. She's being recruited by witches woman child. Alex's woman child got to become a witch.
Starting point is 00:42:08 The power that that woman child is going to have because of the lineage of Alex Jones is going to be so valuable to the Coven. I just I the Terry Pratchett witches every time he says witches just they just make me laugh so much woman child. I love it. Nonsense. So anyway, Alex has a national file article that he kind of takes issue with. He's like, I don't I don't know about this. Sure. I don't know. I got to I got to make a correction and look, I'm not knocking this national file article. Andrew likes a good writer, but there's a problem in this article. It says the drastic changes to various state election laws nationwide in almost all those states. It was done by consent decree by the
Starting point is 00:42:58 governors outside the legislatures. It was not the law talking about like absentee balance. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, guys, you can vote. And that's why the whole election was a fraud right there. The 2020 election is a fraud. It has to be redone. Don't hold your breath just under the law because of that fraud right there. It's already been certified by Congress. And that's why Mike Lindell's right about it all being a fraud and Supreme Court should overturn it, but they don't have the political will. We need to stop worrying about reinstating Trump. Don't hold your breath. We need to start working on stopping the current fraud in these special elections and the midterms in 12 months and the general election
Starting point is 00:43:36 coming up in three years. That's the war. That's the fight. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I thought we were dead already. I could have swore that we were not going to make it three years to the next election. Didn't Alex just have like a little tantrum like a week ago? I mean, we're all going to die. Everybody who gets the vaccine dies within six months to a year. How do we need to worry about that? And the rest of the unvaccinated who survive this calling will have to beat down the globalists. Yeah. What are we talking about three years from now? There's an election. You fuck. You deadly. Oh God. Yeah. We need to really focus on getting out the vote after the fucking zombies arise from beneath the earth with their vaccines to destroy us. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:20 I mean, honestly, we will have to have a very uncomfortable conversation at that point about whether or not zombies can vote. I mean, I don't know. That's a good question. Yep. Look, no matter what we choose, it's going to look bad in hindsight. It's not going to be good. No, it's not going to be good. So zombie MLK is going to be real pissed at us. So about a week ago, week and a half ago, everybody's dead because Alex is in a bad mood because he lost that case. It was a really bad day by default judgment. Everybody was going to die. Right. Everyone's going to die. Now he's gotten a little bit of time. He's got a little bit of distance and you know, hey, look, we got to focus on 2024. It's important to remind yourself that they're always
Starting point is 00:44:57 a decade behind. Right. So you think you're going to die in three years. That's actually 13 years. Yeah. So, you know, this kind of discordant thing is in poker, another thing that's what you call a tell that all that stuff about how we're going to die in six months, that's just kind of an extreme sensational bullshit thing to keep the audience's attention, keep their emotions heightened, keep them scared in order to funnel their attention towards the political projects that you hope to push in the midterms ended 2024. That's essentially the grift here that Alex is engaging in. Again, it should be harder. Right. You should have to work harder, but you really don't. It turns out you don't. You just don't. Well, you know, who does have to work hard? Who? The
Starting point is 00:45:42 globalists. And then no one else. The globalists. Because they have to pull all these false flags. No, of course. So many false flags. That is time consuming. And the deep stage terror attacks were on the gamut from actually blowing up a federal building and then blaming it on their Patsy McVeigh in 1995. And that was open and shut. You research it, a staged event by the very same crew and power today. Now, really wanted him to do it. Attorney General's fingerprints all over it. He was one of the operatives heavily involved at the time. And then you fast forward to things like Charlottesville, where you just get a bunch of Democratic operatives to dress up with Tiki torches and to go out and then you have a leftist mob shows up actually
Starting point is 00:46:26 believing that they're to fight Nazis. And then there's a huge explosion of violence and you can blame Trump. This is stupid and obviously not true. But man, it's so weird how Alex has somehow proven that all of the high profile acts of violence by bigots in history. This is not real. It's so weird. So weird. It's so weird. And you would think that the party and the people pushing horrific racism as a matter of course would also probably be the ones that fault for the terrorist violence. They claim and then are proud of. But they would be if those things were real. Yes. Thankfully, they're not because otherwise they'd be responsible. Well, see now that also it's fascinating to hear that Joe Biden's fingerprints are all over the OKC.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Over the OKC bombing. I haven't heard that conspiracy before. I like it. Honestly, I like it. So I kind of think that he was just a senator in Delaware. I don't know. Now you would think that. I'm interested to see how Alex would spell this conspiracy out. And you know, something just tells me that he was freestyling. Yeah. And just he just said whatever. Just pull. Yeah. Yeah. I think he was just like, that might be fun to say. I'm going to say. Biden did OKC. All right. All right. That's a big swing. That's a that's a Pachanic level swing. If you can back that up with secret deep state sources in the State Department that you used to work with. Oh yeah. For sure. Sometimes though, Jordan, you have
Starting point is 00:47:53 something that appears to be media manipulation, right? Sure. But if you don't know anything and you're stupid, right? Sometimes your ignorance about things is actually the cause of what you think is media manipulation. Wait, what? Case in point. The Roe v. Wade, baby. The Roe v. Wade, baby. The Roe v. Wade, baby was never aborted. It's all fake. That's come out. Mainstream news. Mainstream. And so it's normal to question these things. Well, it happened again. Friday there were people with Tiki torches lining up at the Republicans bus saying they were there officially with the Republican candidate because he's ahead in the polls and they're panicking. They don't know if they've got enough warehouses the Democrats do full of ballots that they can
Starting point is 00:48:46 bring in the dead of night this time to stop this landslide. They don't know. And so they just show up with their Tiki torches and the media NBC all of them ran with all the white supremacists. They're there supporting them. First of all, I don't recall anyone ever claiming that Jane Roe actually got an abortion. The case was entirely predicated on the fact that she couldn't get an abortion, which is why there was a lawsuit. If she'd gotten an abortion, she wouldn't make a good person to base and access to abortion case around for very obvious reasons. Oh, yeah. She had access to it. I think that people just assume that she got an abortion because of the association with that case. But I don't remember ever learning that or
Starting point is 00:49:29 the media implying that. No, she gave the baby up for adoption. And I feel like the only way you wouldn't know that is if you never really actively looked into the case at all. It seems like a mind blowing bit of trivia for Alex. But like I said, I suspect that's just because he's an idiot. A couple of quick points, though. First, the fake protesters didn't say that they were officially there with Yunkin. They were there to pose as his supporters, not an official wing of his campaign. All right. Stupidly. Second, I had never heard this story reported as white supremacists with Tiki torches at a Virginia rally. By the time I saw this making the rounds, the story was already about how this was a PR stunt by the Lincoln Project. Third, how could the Democrats ever
Starting point is 00:50:05 not have enough fake ballots? If rigging an election is as simple as Alex seems to think it is, they could just print more. Like, is this dumb? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Dan, you're not understanding the Fed controls inflation. Okay. If you print too many ballots, the value of the ballots goes down. That could destroy the economy entirely. Well, all elections would become fair. I know from sending out these buttons and making them that ink is not cheap. It is not. No, that's true. But then again, I'm not the Democratic party. You're not even the Lincoln Project. Yeah. I think they have a little bit more access to postage money or ink money as it were. I do like that arbitrary. Oh, they couldn't print anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Right. They couldn't find any more paper supply chain issues. Look, dude, they don't know if they have enough warehouses full of fake ballots in order to swing this election. So they had to send out fake Tiki torch guys. Yeah. In order to make a Glenn Young kid look bad. All right. Fine. Fine. I do love just arbitrary. Oh, man. These guys are evil, unstoppable, incredible. However, terrible with infrastructure and paper costs. Well, actually, look, they're evil. They run everything. What are you going to do? Paper jam? Yeah. We've all been there. The devil can't train people on copy machines. No. That's just true. The guy who fixes the copy machine died of COVID. They can't get it fixed and the evil globalist plan is going to fall apart. Hence, they needed to
Starting point is 00:51:37 get the Lincoln Project to send out some some weird. Every time a copier breaks, the devil kills the guy who fixed it the last time and then enough of them were like, well, we just won't fix your copiers anymore. So Alex believes that the Lincoln Project essentially fell on a grenade here. This is actually the Democratic Party who did this. Right. And then because it blew up in their face or whatever. Right. The Lincoln Project came out. I was like, oh, it was us. So that's kind of Alex's story on this. And then only after it came out did the Lincoln Project come to the rescue and the Lincoln Project went on CNN and CNN said, here's the Republicans taking credit for what they did. Republican strategist, the Lincoln Project. That's like saying that Bill Clinton
Starting point is 00:52:21 is a Republican or that Thomas Jefferson was a Republican or Jimmy Carter was a Republican. That's how dumb they think you are. So once the Democrats were getting the blame for the false flag they were involved in, the racial false flag. Well, here comes as fast as they could almost falling over themselves as a Lincoln Project to say, oh no, that's us. Calling it a false flag is a little bit rich. But also Alex laughed in the middle there because he knew he'd fucked up in his list, but it was too late to do anything about it. Not only could you say that Thomas Jefferson was a Republican, you could say that he literally founded the Democratic Republican Party, also known as the Jeffersonian Republican Party. Sure, that isn't the Republican Party that
Starting point is 00:53:02 we know today, but none of the parties resemble themselves from even a hundred years ago. So great, whatever. Well, the know nothing party has made a very strong comeback. They may call themselves something different. The Wiggs somewhere. So yeah, calling the Lincoln Project Republican is essentially the same as calling Thomas Jefferson a Republican. And Alex, you can hear him laugh. He's like, well, you know, you win some, you lose some. At least I'm not having a bad day today and I'm going to tell everybody that millions are going to die tomorrow. It's kind of interesting to me because he knows so little about Thomas Jefferson in terms of these fake quotes that he throws out all the time, but that's a clear awareness that he's like,
Starting point is 00:53:37 ah, shit, he actually is a Republican that good for him. Yeah, he knows a little good for him knowing a thing. Yes. So yeah, these actors who were, this is why I brought this up at the beginning of the episode. These actors who are the people who are portraying the Tiki Torch wielding people, people have figured out that they're Democrats. Sure. But you see, Twitter and Instagram solicits actually found out the identities of the people and their well-known high-level Democrat operatives. High-level. So they're wearing disguises, hats with their hair tucked in in glasses, and they're not the Lincoln Project. But the Lincoln Project itself is a Democrat Party cut out. So you got Democrats posing as Republicans, the Lincoln Project, and you got Democrats posing
Starting point is 00:54:19 as white supremacists, white nationalists as well. I mean, they're posing as everybody except who they really are, Democrat Party operatives. And if you blow their cover, well, Georgetown University with all that taxpayer money they get, oh, they're a private college, they get taxpayer money. They come and sue you to shut you up. This is how Alex is trying to rationalize why he's being sued for defaming Brennan Gilmour in the Unite the Right Rally suit that is going to trial fairly soon. Alex's gonna probably have some troubles with that. Nah, he's gonna be great. It's a little less pro, high profile than the Sandy Hook one, but I'm telling you, I bet he's learned his lesson. Total. So the people who portrayed the fake white
Starting point is 00:55:05 nationalists in the Lincoln Project stunt very well may have been Democrats, but even if you prove that they're involved in politics and swing to the left, that still doesn't prove that they're engaged in this stunt under the any official auspices of the Democratic Party. If you think about it for a second, who else are you gonna get to pose as white nationalists at a GOP rally other than Democrats? Probably highly motivated young ones, you know, I think that's the pool of people you might be able to get to be, hey, it's a political stunt, we're gonna, you know. Don't forget, it would also have to be somebody who's like, wait a second, you want me to go to a place where horrific violence happened and traumatize a bunch of people just by dressing like an idiot? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, I would love to do that. I'm on the left. Yeah, you kind of have to be not that thoughtful of a person. No, can't be. No. So at this point, we get back to the AT&T manual, and apparently this is AT&T admits that this is just racial reeducation, which is not true. Yeah. Here's AT&T's own training manual. AT&T says racial reeducation program, that's a close quote, asserts, quote, white people are the problem. That's a quote. Radical reeducation program, white people are the problem. That's a quote. You ought to go to the article on infowars.com. I apologize for watching. You ought to link through to the whole document that got put out. And it's the CEO of it, John Stanky, Stanky, S-T-A-N-K-E-Y, Stanky. And he just says the whole world's problems aren't
Starting point is 00:56:42 Chinese slave camps or aren't toxic waste dumping or aren't in, you know, the forced inoculations killing so many people, the economy locking down. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's white people, says the white person. Just total divide and conquer. Super nasty behavior. I don't think that what you'd come away with from reading these or looking at these documents is that they're arguing that it's the only problem or even the biggest problem in the world is just a problem. Sure. Also, toxic waste dumping is a weird thing for Alex to have on that list. I mean, how do you want to solve that one? Reminds me of white people. How do you want to resolve that one, Alex? Maybe regulation? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:57:24 we should just ask corporations nicely. They know what's right. Of course. That's why AT&T is doing this race. Wait, no, I don't like that AT&T does. So these Lincoln project people who went out and did this, right, right, right. This was a racist false flag. I mean, like, Alex has already called it that, but I just think that language is a little severe. What even is it? So the Deep State Globalist Democratic Party has been caught in a racial false flag with their operatives posing as white supremacists and saying they support the Republican Party. That's just a standard thing they do continually, and they do not want you discussing it. They want you to believe Jesse Smollett really got attacked. They want you to believe that there's all these racial attacks
Starting point is 00:58:06 around the country that in almost every case, turn out to be fake. Right. So I think that if you are the Lincoln project, you have a responsibility to understand the right wing media ecosystem and doing something like this so transparently stunt, a PR stunt, is not going to really stick as a negative thing for young Ken, but it will stick inside the right wing media ecosystem and that echo chamber as a resounding example of something that had to do with fake racists and will be something that could be used to keep people from recognizing larger societal issues. It'll keep people trapped in that information space that facilitates the racist violence that they believe is fake. Yeah. And when you say responsibility,
Starting point is 00:59:01 that is true. I would also say that if you expect people who have worked within the Republican Party strategy and planning and media situations for most of their lives, it would be hopelessly naive to think that they didn't already understand that. Probably. But I don't know. I don't know their hearts. Anyway, I know Alex's heart, and that is that he loves Tucker, and he's very excited about, he's so excited about this special. Along comes Tucker Carlson with his big report coming out three-part series on the plot against America where the federal government openly is branding the American people in official policy. I told you they were announcing that you were terrorist
Starting point is 00:59:43 right when Biden snuck his way in. They had press conferences saying anybody questioning elections is a terrorist. Anybody questioning open borders is a terrorist. And then now they say, if you go to the school board and say, we don't appreciate you teaching that white people are inherently bad, which is total Nazi crap. I mean, saying a group is bad because of what race they are is Nazi stuff. I mean, it's an original sin to be from a certain group. That is pure Nazi stuff. And it's all in the official US government strategy of the National Security Council put out by Joe Biden in June. And look, I know I've got a lot of news here. I got a lot of stuff to cover. Why do I keep harping on this? Because this is the war on
Starting point is 01:00:23 terror 2.0. This is where we're the enemy. This is the great reset. So Alex is actually selling himself incredibly short here by saying that he called this when Joe Biden got into office. Alex has been claiming that the Homeland Security apparatus is about to be turned against white people for basically his entire career. This is one of these instances where illustrating that Alex said this shit 15 20 years ago really doesn't make him sound like a psychic, makes him sound like a broken record or a boy who's crying wolf in a really racist way. It doesn't help his case. The January 6 was a plot turned counterterrorism against white people. If you point out that he said the exact same thing about almost every other terrorist act you
Starting point is 01:01:02 can think of. Turning the power of the state against white people is why Alex claims they framed Timothy McVeigh for the Oklahoma City bombing. It's why Alex spent so much time pretending that the FBI was going to frame a white patsy for the Boston bombing. If you go back to 911, that's even part of his conspiracy there. Passing things like the Patriot Act only happened because the state wanted to make you afraid of foreign terrorists, but it was really about giving the state more power so they could eventually use it against white people or patriots, as Alex prefers to call it. This is a preoccupation for Alex because he's a racist. He's been beating this stupid drum for his entire career and this is going to go on the mantle what he's doing right
Starting point is 01:01:38 now. It's just another time that he insisted the sky was falling and we just don't really have the perspective of hindsight because it's happening in the present. It's just going to be another one of those. I really hope that that clip of Owen Schreuer burning a flag and saying, fuck BLM is going to make it into that Patriot Purge documentary. Oh yeah, yeah, probably not. No, I think it will because that's a really important context to the whole thing. If you realize that the people leading the rally are themselves saying fuck BLM and burning flags. And Alex just talked about something, like when you think that a... They should also play clips of Harrison's broadcast that day. Oh yeah, when the
Starting point is 01:02:20 Capitol is falling, the Patriots have taken it. Yeah, I think they're going to play that. They've got to because it's going to be a Patriot Purge, so we need to know exactly who the Patriots want to purge. Sure, sure, sure. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they want to get rid of those people to make the Patriots look better, right? Yep. Yeah. Boo. Yeah. Anyway, the systems freaked out and they are freaked out because Alex and Tucker, when they talk about these sorts of issues, sure, and they bring light to the globalist false flags, it hurts their ability to pull future false flags. Thank God that
Starting point is 01:02:56 Tucker Carlson is hammering on it. And you know that they've got the system scared because they are so freaked out when Carlson raises this or I raise this because it's the elephant in the room. And what is the elephant in the room? Just as sure as the sun came up this morning, the deep state is going to stage terror attacks in the next year before the midterms, just like they did Oklahoma City in 95 to make sure Clinton would be reelected. And the Democratic Party and Bill Clinton said he owed his reelection when he was 20 points behind the Oklahoma City bombing. Look it up. Bill Clinton said he owed his 1996 reelection to Oklahoma City. Type that in, click web, do a web search, do an image search, you'll see the headlines. He told
Starting point is 01:03:43 the press corps on Air Force one that and they carried out that bombing. The evidence is just incredible. It would take hours to go over. I've been involved in films, books, you name it. Right. So I don't think Clinton said exactly that, but if Alex wants to provide a specific citation, I'll look into it. I suspect that this is just Alex putting a dramatic spin on the idea that Clinton saved his reelection with his response to the Oklahoma City bombing. As the story goes, his numbers were terrible and it wasn't looking good for him getting a second term. Then the Murrah building is attacked and he shows up and gives an amazing speech that comforts Oklahoma and the nation in this horrific moment and encourages a path forward. Many folks have
Starting point is 01:04:22 said that that speech and Clinton's leadership after the bombing played a major role in his reelection. And if Bill himself ever expressed feeling that way, I don't think that would be too surprising. It doesn't prove that he did the bombing in order to get reelected though. It's still this giant leap that Alex wants us to make and it's fucking dumb. Right. Yeah. I mean, do you really think Obama would have been elected without a massive financial crash? But Obama's not going to be like, it's a good thing that financial crash happened, otherwise I wouldn't be president. That would be a bad idea. Even with all this being said, if you look at Gallup's approval ratings for Bill Clinton, you'll see that he was hovering around
Starting point is 01:04:56 the mid 40% approval prior to the bombing, 46% the week before, then 51% for the next two weeks. By June 5th, it was back down to 47% and around there consistently. It didn't go back up into the 50s steadily until November. Right. I just think that this is a little bit of mythologizing based on how good that speech was after and how that did really cement him as a strong leader. Right. Like Robert F. Kennedy speech on the day MLK died, or no, tight is a different way on the day the government murdered him. Okay. Yeah. And I think that more to the point about this stuff too, like the system's not freaked out because you're going to blow some kind of false flag they're planning. It's because this is going to get people hurt. Yeah. This inevitably leads
Starting point is 01:05:44 people down a path that leads to violence and not good. No. So Alex likes to pretend that he does a lot of stuff behind the scenes. He is a man with a hydra with many heads, as he likes to say sometimes. And one of those heads apparently contributed to Tucker's documentary. Oh, Alex apparently did some, maybe some background work on that. So bigger than this documentary that we contributed to and then we gave Tucker footage for him. I'll leave it at that, but I've it's powerful. Okay. You're going to see it tomorrow. I'm going to leave it at that. And then obviously it'll be a week long event here in info wars. We're on the same team. Fault slides. We'll be playing clips of it. We'll be analyzing it. We'll be talking about it starting
Starting point is 01:06:26 Tuesday morning. So desperate to be associated with this. And like the, the, the people saying like, Oh my God, like Tucker's just doing info wars. Shit. Yeah. They're saying that to malign and insult Tucker. Yeah. And Alex is like, Oh, they're saying that I better use this to my advantage. Probably good for me. Yeah. Probably good. Hitch my wagon to a horse. And the reality for Alex is that he's, he doesn't see himself in competition with people like Tucker or Glenn Beck. You know, they're better than him. I mean, that's cause he's not, but they're better than him at a certain job. This is actually incredibly introspective on Alex's part. I agree with him 100%. This is a watershed moment with Tucker Carlson or Glenn
Starting point is 01:07:08 Beck. They're both better talk show host and probably at the end of the day, smarter than I am when it comes to actual news. Not hard, not hard, but when it comes to firing people up and fighting tyranny and not backing down and having the Holy spirit, I got more of it. And I'm not trying to brag. It's all glory to God, but I'm here to get people fired up and to take action. Yeah. I completely 100% agree with this. People like Glenn Beck and Tucker are smarter and better hosts in a TV show. Yeah. Alex's job is not to be accurate. He's not there to be a good broadcaster or host. He's there to incite people. Yeah. He's a stochastic terrorist. He's there to fuck with people's emotions, use information as a weapon, whether it's accurate or not,
Starting point is 01:07:55 and incite them to action that he will then later call a false flag. Yeah. And it's very odd, basically, that even he's like, my job is to incite them to action. Now, obviously, whenever my fans do stuff, I have nothing to do that. How could you even claim that? I said that was a deep state fucking false flag. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. My job is to inspire people to nonviolent right politically politically. Yeah. Sure. All right, buddy. What a dick. But I do think that I think that's completely accurate. And it also unfortunately shows too much self awareness right to accept that he is unself aware of so many other things. Right. Yeah. That becomes an issue. Yeah. Also, here's here's an issue. What's that? I've told you
Starting point is 01:08:40 this for 20 plus years because the first five, six years, I didn't understand my calling. I was being pushed by God to do this. But about 20 years ago, it was just like a voice in my head almost. It was so strong and dreams and you are going to lay the path. You're going to be like the archetype. I'm not comparing myself to a prophet, but to like a John the Baptist in the wilderness. And I never compared myself to that. Because then seven years ago, there was big party strategy documents came out and they said, Jones is the John the Baptist of the Tea Party and he's the main engine. Our computer studies and our analysis is shown. He's got to be stopped. This is delusional nonsense. But also, I don't think it was the Democratic Party
Starting point is 01:09:24 documents said that Alex was the voice in the wilderness. I think that was just a term that was used like in a Rolling Stone piece about it. Like I don't, I don't, I think that was just in an article. Yeah, probably. I absolutely do not believe that it wasn't Democratic Party. It wasn't like party consensus. We got a, we got a meeting together at the DNC. Alex Jones is the wild prophet. No, some, it was somebody who was writing a profile added in that line. It was like we've moved on now. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think that it's, it's kind of fucked up to think that there's any reality to Alex's, even his own subjective perception of 20 years ago, he had a vision and prophetic dreams that he was supposed to lay the groundwork for this holy battle. Like,
Starting point is 01:10:12 fuck this. This is, this is unhinged nonsense. Yeah. That pathological self-mathologizing that just like, you know, I was called to this. Now, I didn't say anything or feel it at the age that I'm claiming that I did, but now that I'm claiming it, it was definitely true. And when I, when I was on air back then, I definitely would never have said this because people would think I was crazy. Exactly. And now it's too late because everyone knows I'm crazy. I'm nuts. What are you going to say now? Yeah. Yeah. I won. I beat you into submission. Well, we, we have that perception of Alex and maybe that's our position, but there's another position and that is Alex's and that is that he is the light of the world. Him and his buddies are the only chance.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Really? Yeah. Oh boy. We're now the light of the world. This fight against the New World Order, the fight against the Great Reset, as bad as America is and as fallen as America is and as corrupt and out of control as we are sometimes. We're still the best hope this planet's got. So that's why I thank you all for your support and keeping us on air because we're the worst. It's an incredibly historic time to be alive right now. We're actively destroying the world. And I use that as a political analogy. I'm not comparing myself to John the Baptist. I'm saying, if our political movement is to defeat the Satanic New World Order and the rest of it, is I've been the mad prophet out in the wilderness and that basically now is the spin
Starting point is 01:11:38 they've engaged in because that's how they see it as well because that's really archetypally what it is. Okay, we're going to go to break them to come back with a Jim Acosta desperation. When you hear him talking, it's Jeff Zucker. It's AT&T. It's the desperate, evil, globalist corporations that thought they had America defeated but are just now realizing that they have awakened the sleeping giant. That is coming up. And separately, I want to thank all the listeners and viewers for your support. You're getting great products at the same time. We need a major war chest to do a lot of new projects. We're launching and we've got Black Friday comes early that we launch for the first two weeks of every November and we've launched it early this year. Oh, exciting.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Wait, Black Friday comes early. Got lost earlier and earlier. Wow. Fun. I like the defensiveness about like I wasn't trying to say I'm John the Baptist. What's wrong with that? Compare yourself to John the Baptist. John the Baptist was a bit player. He didn't. He did a little baptizing. Maybe he did a little faith healing. He wasn't that big of a deal. But also I like the defensiveness about that after he says that him and his buddies are the light of the world, which John 812 says, quote, I am the light of the world. That's Jesus speaking. Well, I mean, Jesus was a while back. You know, he needs an assist. I think that if one thing is more offensive than the other, it's that. Oh, sure. A little light blast for me is an issue, but I'm not. I'm no John the Baptist.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah, because he didn't do that. So Alex complains about Jim Acosta loop. I'm going to cut. I'm going to skip a couple of these clips just because they're like, I could teach a tech. I could teach a course on this. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's so Jim Acosta is the embodiment of fake news. I will take a course taught by Alex Jones. I probably I'd audit it. Yeah, for sure. I wouldn't pay for it. That's true. He he's complaining about Jim Acosta and he kind of forgets Brian Stelter's name, which is funny. That is funny time while someone in his earpiece tells him Brian Stelter, but this is this is the beginning of the review. He finally gets to his Jim Acosta review and I will say my review of this piece is dorky, but bit too many shitty
Starting point is 01:13:42 puns. Okay, maybe overwritten. I think it might be a cost his piece. Yes. Yeah, that's not surprising. No, that's not surprising. My review of Alex's review is he comes in hot little underwritten. Here is Acosta accosting the truth. A costing is releasing his big blockbuster movie on Monday while the kids have been calling for a sequel to Dune. Tucker thought they said loon as in crazy as a loon. I pause there as in crazy in a loon. Oh, you're going to call conspiracy theorist and crazy and white supremacist. No facts, no evidence, no proof, just loon attacks conspiracy theorist white supremacist. I mean, you're about to hear it. Here it is. Okay. Was he was he referencing something Tucker said about Dune? No, no, it was just trying to tie it into something
Starting point is 01:14:32 that is kind of culturally relevant right now. That's why it's overwritten. That's what he was trying. That was the point. He said that the kids are clamoring for a sequel to Dune, but Tucker thought they said loon. That's the joke. I thought that no, I thought that Tucker actually said that I thought that Tucker made that mistake. Nope. That seems far more reasonable than an adult man writing that. I think that you might not watch enough of these like 24 hour news channels. Do not. And I don't know if Alex needed to pause it there to respond. How is it so hard to get a writing job in TV if Jim Acosta's got one? Well, that's nuts. He might not write all of this. He better. Yeah, I think there's I think there's a staff. He should take credit for this or whoever's
Starting point is 01:15:16 on his staff should be fired. So he continues with the Dune metaphor. Also, it's not just a one off. False flags have happened in this country. One of which may have been January 6th. No Zendaya. Darn. But it is about global domination. I guess in Tucker's eyes. And yes, Tucker sees himself as kind of a Timothy Chalamet style messiah. But the comparisons end there as Tucker attempts to whitewash the white supremacists at the Capitol on January 6th. And it gets more sinister than that. Tucker is peddling some deeply dangerous propaganda that the insurrection was actually a false flag operation. He has floated this before. It's a ridiculous conspiracy theory that the government was really it's a ridiculous conspiracy theory that the government was involved. Just like
Starting point is 01:16:08 it's been involved in many other big events and been caught doing it. I mean, again, all he uses is hyperbole. All he uses is words like stupid, dumb, the conspiracy theorist white supremacist. That's all he's got. Oh, Alex is complaining about people name calling. I mean, I can't imagine what would happen if he said something about the way Alex looked being similar to a demon. Right. So I bet he would be up in arms about somebody who would throw away basic human decency like that and simply claim based upon appearance. Someone looks like a demon. Alex would never sink to that level. No. He's above the fray. Right. Yeah. Call people Renfields. Vampires. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's that's frankly offensive and a
Starting point is 01:16:57 little anti-Semitic. I'm going to go there. So look, according to Jim Acosta, there's no false flags. There are some other flags, but there are plot holes big enough for Alex Jones to drive a monster truck through. Now, as for flags, there were plenty of Trump flags and Confederate flags on display at the insert. Let's just pause again. Yeah, nothing wrong with the Confederate flag. It's a symbol of Southern heritage and it's a battle flag. You guys say it's racist. Well, it's not, but I was there. There might have been one rebel flag for every thousand American flags. So you're now demonizing a million people that contested an election because there was a few Johnny Reb flags there. That that's all he's got to claim this was a
Starting point is 01:17:37 giant white supremacist event. Let's continue. I don't think that's all he's got because because no, there's so much because the next clip has something else. Republican Congressman Demer Rigelman, who is working for the January 6th committee, has said at least seven white nationalist groups were involved in the rioting. Forget Universal Pre-K. Some of these guys at the Capitol wanting Universal KKK. All right, pause again. The KKK, all this even Texas Monthly Dirt reports on a decade ago, almost every KKK bus they have, them planning violence, is led by the FBI. And the FBI goes and creates the Klan group and then advertises and then pays short bus type folks literally to be part of it. What? I mean, that's so of course there were
Starting point is 01:18:22 seven white supremacist groups that came there working with the Southern Poverty Law Center, ADL, and the Democratic Party to do that. That's their MO. Let's continue. So this is kind of how you know Alex is riffing this and kind of freestyling is because he was like, oh, yeah, he's bad at the Confederate flag. That's all he's got. And then immediately there's a point about how the January 6th committee has shown that there were at least seven white supremacist groups or white nationalist groups. And in order to back, uh-oh, that's exactly counter to what I was saying. Now my rebuttal is that all the KKK are fake. They're all the FBI. Jesus. So he has to shift his sort of his response and his rebuttal in order to suit whatever new thing pops up. And he just hinges
Starting point is 01:19:08 on whatever thing he thinks he can, whatever thing is like a hold on the rock. Like that's where he paused it after the loon instead of dude. He's like, oh, I can riff on that one. Yeah, I can toss a little bit off on that. Yeah. Finding Nemo is popular amongst the kids, but Trump is finding Nero, the Roman emperor who fiddled while Rome burned. Right. There's no, it actually is kind of fun. You want to try one? No. Oh, come on. I get, I get, I get the enjoyment in it. It's a little fun. You know what? I take back all my criticisms. This is great. This is going to be your version of my clips where Alex says damn. I know. I'm sorry. It's, it suddenly became incredibly enjoyable. I get it. And I think, I think, I hope you have a lot
Starting point is 01:19:56 of fun. I'm not doing it anymore. I'm not doing it anymore. Feel free to. But the thing, I'm never going to go to bed and defend that style of writing for a new piece. I'm not expecting you to. It is very cringe worthy. You're talking about an overthrow of the United States fucking government. Like you're reading a puff piece about the cat of the week. Yeah. Yeah. Tonally, it's inappropriate. A little bit problematic. Yeah. Dude, more like blue. Oh, boy. Oh, you got me. Yeah. So Alex. Oh, man, this creeped me out. Tucker Carlson is not a Republican. Tucker Carlson is not a Democrat. He's an American. I thought he was a psycho. He really wants to defeat the New World Order. And
Starting point is 01:20:54 he grew up in an establishment family, but a family of people that were American patriots, rich, rich, well, he projected his family's own goodness onto the rest of the world. And then he later learned he was naive. The world wasn't nice like his dad or stepmom. Let's hear about his dad. His brother or bad people in charge. Sure. How do I know that? Well, Tucker's told me that to my face. But I already knew his story. It's like so many other people's including mine. You got to stop being naive, ladies and gentlemen. We've all been there. You got to admit how much trouble we're in. We got to recognize who our enemies are and stop listening to him. Stop even debating. But here I am breaking my own rule here.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Really? And that is giving attention to the system. It's Alex didn't break his, he was breaking his own rule because CNN said his name. Yeah. He's spending half his show on this because CNN said his name. Every time anyone says his name on Twitter for a while. Yeah. It's so annoying. Yeah. He breaks everything down. No, we're not. We're not talking about anything in the news. Here's what's in Alex Jones news. Right. This is going to be profitable and self-aggrandizing. So here we go. Here it is. This is what I'm here for. The other thing too though is that like Alex doing this weird soft talk ramble about how great Tucker is and his family and all this and explain like how do I know? Because he told me.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I think that anytime Alex reports on something based on something somebody else has told him, you should know that he's an idiot and he's gullible as hell. He'll believe anything. He's the guy who hung out with Steve Pachanik for like 20 years. Yeah. He's the guy who got duped by Roger Stone. Like this is not a guy who has a good bullshit radar. Do you know how I know that rich people are, are betters and should be in charge and are absolutely looking out for us? I'm going to guess you're not going to say because rich people told you that. I mean, it actually is because rich people told me that. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I believe them. How could you not believe them, Dan? Sure. How could they lie? You can't get rich by lying. Well, based on what they say,
Starting point is 01:23:14 they're better people. So they wouldn't lie. They can't lie. Right. They physically can't lie. They're too rich for it. Well, actually, interestingly, you bring that up because Alex also is incapable of lying. Oh, one thing folks. If I ain't shooting you straight, it means I'm dead. All I can do is shoot straight. I can't even control myself when I don't want to tell the truth. I basically can't even lie. Decades ago, I could tell little lies. I can't even do it now. You physically can't lie. Oh my God. Why, why did I think parody is even possible? It's not. Why would I? Why would I? What kind of idiot am I? Charlie Brown, Lucy, it's all happening. Yep. Every time you're running at that football, I'm going to get it someday. So also something that
Starting point is 01:24:00 keeps happening, much like you getting duped by trying to be trying to be over the top. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't work. Nope. Another thing that keeps happening is that whenever Alex breaks his own rule and does these coverage of things where he pops up in it, you know, he gets kind of bored once they get past the part where his name comes up. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not about him anymore. And that kind of happens here too. So just go back to a cost. It's hard to listen to. And all right. You said, oh, this has got plot holes big enough. You can drive an Alex Jones size monster truck through. Says the guy with no viewers and no support. Who's the definition of fakeness? I know the plot holes are your claim. He just kind of runs out of gas. Yeah. Because
Starting point is 01:24:44 he's not involved anymore. Well, eventually your only argument to the content is, I know you are, but what am I? So, you know, once you've lost that personal grievance, you don't have it. Yeah. And so you try to make the impersonal personal. And here is, I think this is the last clip, actually, of the Acosta coverage. You don't see people hiding bombs or using bayonets or firing weapons trying to take over the country in an insurrection. You see people walking around and taking pictures. They don't look like terrorists. They look like tourists. And all of them, by the way, are American. Tucker has already described the insurrectionists as tourists. So they were just tourists while also carrying out a false flag attack on the
Starting point is 01:25:27 Capitol. Sorry. You can't have it both ways. So pause again. You can't have it both ways, you little liar, where you take a 10 second clip out of a 45 minute show he did and then misrepresent it. I watched those shows. Who could do something like that? Hell, some of my reporters were on those shows. Anybody go back and pull those up. He said a very small group of people got roped in to a riot and then the police were ordered to stand down. And so then when that small group went in, then the people behind him didn't know what was happening. I was there and got waved in by the police who didn't want any more fights. And so it's those 600 people that have been arrested. Over 400 were nonviolent. Some of them are still in jail in solitary confinement. That's what
Starting point is 01:26:11 Tucker was talking about. So he's saying the feds try to false flag. They tried to make this much more violent than it was. They provocateur groups on record CNN paid a guy to go lead Antifa in posing as Trump supporters to try to burn the place down. It's all on record CNN. Incidentally, someone did plant two bombs at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before January 6th. So you know, if you don't see people with bombs or bayonets and the videos at the Capitol, you know, you might want to look at the surveillance videos that the FBI has released because there you'll see some bombs. Also, I do appreciate that they are absolutely tourists and the police stood aside because they were tired of fighting. You know how when you go on
Starting point is 01:26:51 vacation and you want to go to a big monument or something like that, and you're like, I'm just a tourist and you fight the cops into submission in order to see it? Because you can't pay the fee or whatever. And what if it's closed? You got to beat up enough cops to where they quit because you're a tourist. Yeah, when we went to Hawaii, we had to fight so many cops in order to get those hot dogs. Oh my God. When we went to the palace, we beat the shit out of 50 cops. So many cops. It was amazing. Ridiculous. Yeah. Also, the Antifa leader that Alex is claiming CNN paid to go incite things. That's Jaden X or John Sullivan. CNN did pay him for some footage that he got inside the Capitol, which is actually the exact same thing that Alex's staff did. Yeah. If this satisfies
Starting point is 01:27:31 the claim that CNN paid him to incite a riot, then so did Alex. Alex is trying to claim that he had 40 Antifa men behind him to burn down the Capitol. Sure. The story has gotten a bit out of control. Yeah. That means whenever you don't have a government willing to do anything to correct a violent overthrow of the government, they're going to make up stories and then try it again. Well, actually, they did do something. And Alex thinks they did a lot in order to punish these people. Interesting. You can't have it both ways, Tucker. Is it a false flag or was it just people that were tourists? Well, the people that got roped in outside and waved in, they are innocent. Guys that pooped on Pelosi's desk or drank her beer. Okay. You gave Democrats charges dropped
Starting point is 01:28:18 for burning down federal buildings. I don't think that's right. But if you let them go for burning down federal buildings, you got to let somebody go for pooping on Pelosi's desk, especially when he's been in solitary confinement for eight months. I think that's Senate serve, don't you? I don't think he'll be crapping on Pelosi's desk anytime soon. Okay. No one shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk on January 6th. I wish I could have. What happened is that a ton of people who stormed the Capitol pissed and shit wherever they wanted and left a huge mess behind. In addition to that, a guy named Derek Jancart, who is part of the storming of the building, he claimed that in his defense, he never considered shitting on Nancy Pelosi's
Starting point is 01:28:51 desk, although people were chanting for someone to do so. And that's where the story and someone also, I think it was a little bit before this, but September 2020, if I recall correctly, some YouTuber shit on Nancy Pelosi's driveway. Yeah. And so I think a lot of this just gets mixed up and conflated. Yeah, why? So Alex has turned it into some guy shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk and has been in solitary confinement for eight months. Print the legend, buddy. Print the legend. Yeah. I mean, listen, if you shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk, you do get some respect for me. You do. Well, it didn't happen. As long as you don't try and overthrow the country, and you shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk. Great. You win. So Alex, there's actually one more clip
Starting point is 01:29:32 here, I believe, in relation to the Acosta piece. And it has to do with Acosta rightly pointing out that, hey, guys, Trump was president when that happened. Well, and Alex is like, well, well, he wasn't you be, be, be as well as White House visitor records, which is a reminder that, oh, yeah, this alleged false flag operation happened when Trump was in office. Oh, pause again. Trump was completely cut off. No one was even giving him any advice. He couldn't get his executive orders implemented. They threw him in the trash. 99% of his staff had already quit or left because they were being threatened by people like Acosta. So now Trump was in charge. No, Trump asked for 10,000 National Guard. The Democratic Party
Starting point is 01:30:16 refused them two weeks before January 6. Oh, yeah. His staff was quitting because they were being threatened by Jim Acosta. Totally, totally. So Alex's claim that Trump tried to request troops, but was blocked is actually the exact opposite of the truth. From a breakdown in the military times, you can get a sense of the very precise timeline of this. On December 31, 2020, D.C. Mayor Mario Bowser extended a request and an invitation to the National Guard to come help support local police in the district. Several hundred troops did respond and they were posted in D.C. But they couldn't work with the Capitol Police. Specifically, they were not allowed to work on federal property without approval from the Capitol Police who are outside the jurisdiction of
Starting point is 01:30:56 Mayor Bowser. Right. And they did not approve that. Right. That was a federal issue. That is Trump's purview. Right. If the Capitol Police had appropriately coordinated with local law enforcement, those National Guard troops would have been there. They failed to do so. And, you know, I guess the buck doesn't stop anywhere, according to Alex. You know, that's something that like the buck stops over there. My partner and I watched all of Kitchen Nightmares in 24 hours to hell and back. The Gordon Ramsay show where he goes and he finds small businesses that are struggling and they're about to fall apart and he tries to help them out. You know, love that shit. I love it when a business gets helped. And it's very funny to me that they can make a show out of it. Unless
Starting point is 01:31:35 it's Taffer. Yeah. Unless it's that. Yeah. It's very funny to me that they can make a show about it because every episode is essentially the exact same thing. Gordon Ramsay goes in there and he says, Hey, do you want to run a good restaurant? Professionalism and accountability. That's, that's literally it. Like generally, ultimately, professionalism and accountability. And the, it's so obvious once you like just hear him continue repeating that like, Oh, does somebody continually blame other people for shit? Then they're probably the problem. Yeah. Yeah. There's a, there's a trend. Yeah. Sometimes things are other people's fault. They can. There are other people's problems. Exactly. When it's constantly somebody else's problem.
Starting point is 01:32:18 When it's always somebody else's fault. It's suspicious. When you're the president of the fucking United States and it's somebody else's fault. Guess what? You're the problem. Yeah. You might be the problem. You might be the problem. So Alex, people have been enjoying Jeff fucks worth these. Okay. I'm not going to do it. Alex. Oh boy. I don't want you to, I don't want you to finish that sentence. Um, Alex has gotten sort of less interested in this Jim Acosta piece because again, he has only mentioned briefly. Right. Right. Right. Now it's really just about talking boring. Yeah. Um, and Alex gets distracted by big COVID news. Okay. I've got some big COVID-19 news, but I tend to start the shows without
Starting point is 01:32:59 dropping it in the broadcast next segment, whether it's a big news, just broke in full. Alex Jones show because there is a war on your mind. Making a vaccinated gin, sake test positive for a COVID-19. And I got a big British study saying you're more likely to get COVID-19 or be hospitalized or die. So yeah, Jen Saki, a White House press, right? I assume she's dead now. She had COVID tragic when she died. I don't know if this is big breaking news. It's, it's, I mean, it's news, I guess. Um, and also that British thing is just that Greg Rees report we talked about in the, uh, in a previous episode that's a total bullshit. Yeah. Um,
Starting point is 01:33:50 but yeah, great. Weird noises. Alex is making. I am a big fan of how you can tell devil worshipers by how they make these noises whenever they come in contact with you. They're always like right. They jump through portals and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, uh, it's so crazy how you can tell when someone's a demon by the weird noises they make. He was just doing a didgeridoo. It did seem like he was trying to make the sound of the music, but he did what he did. He's trying to make a sound like a didgeridoo. See, that's my version of the gym. See, but that's good. That's the problem. That's the problem. It wasn't a bad pun about something terrible and pop culture. My man standing out here sounded like he you see. There you go. So, um, Alex
Starting point is 01:34:41 has some claims about Jim Acosta about how bad he is and they're, they're not accurate. All right, let's get back to Acosta. He is such a monster. He runs around events. We're trying to get our reporters thrown out. He doesn't personally run throughout the internet. He's just a horrible person and he's right in league with the CNN that, you know, said Trump took out the Martin Luther King, Jr. bust. Remember that five years ago? First day, Trump's in the wine house. Of course it wasn't true. CNN reporter stood in front of it to shoot the video to be able to say it. See, I don't, he's starting to say that CNN did that and the Acosta is in league with that. I don't know how this is necessarily something that Jim Acosta did. Also another problem is that the
Starting point is 01:35:30 reporting on that story that actually wasn't accurate and they had to do a very sincere retraction on and they, they did because that's journalistic ethics. Oh, that's accountability. Yeah. That reporting on that, that wasn't done by CNN. That was actually done by Zeke Miller for a time magazine. So Alex is mixing those things up because who cares? It doesn't really matter. Not really. No, no, no. So one of the things that I think is really troubling in the recent past was that clip from a Turning Point USA meeting event where someone asked Charlie Kirk. When's the time to start killing? When's the time to start using the guns? How many elections are we going to let them steal? Right, right, right. You know, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:36:11 You've whipped us up into this point. Now give us the answer that you so clearly are teasing us with because you're trying to grift, but I'm not smart enough to figure that out. So here we are. So Alex is very predictable in his discussion of this. He says that the person who asked the question was a plant. Sure. Are all the people who've called him asking the same questions plant? Obviously, obviously. So this guy was a plant and then Charlie Kirk answered the question well, but Alex would have gone a little bit differently. He would have also added some incitement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you've got this plant in the audience saying, when do we get to use the guns? I love how it's always a guy that isn't actually going to use the guns telling us
Starting point is 01:36:52 we need to use the guns. No, he's asking when Kirk says, Oh, they want to set us up. That's their plan. That's their overall agenda. They can't win an election battle. They want to have a physical one, which is totally true. Bravo kudos to to Kirk for getting it. But I would have continued, which which Kirk didn't explaining. Hey, have you seen the Democrats on MSNBC saying we got to take out the mother effing white people and that we've got to kill Trump and we got to kill all these people. They're the ones a thousand times more than us calling for violence. So I would have in response to a question of when is it time to start shooting people? I would have thrown in a bunch more stuff to fuck with people's emotions and make them scared
Starting point is 01:37:34 and feel like they're in danger. So maybe they'd be more likely to use guns. Well, at the same time I say, ah, it's a trick that they want to trick you into being offensively violent, but also anything you do violent is defensive because they're the ones who are super violent. Yeah, see, Charlie, what you're misunderstanding about answering that question is that the time was, I guess when Timothy McVeigh bombed the okay, hold my city. We should have been using guns from the beginning, but you can't tell people that. So you need to say it without saying it. Yeah, yeah, you should just say now politically. Yes, exactly. That's exactly what you should have said. That's what Alex wants you to say. So Alex comes from a tradition of deep anti-communism. Of course,
Starting point is 01:38:16 all of his heroes and role models are dum-dums, right? Cold War holdouts and even anti-communism as another metaphor for, or as another euphemism for just race. Right, right. I don't, when I say anti-communist, I don't mean someone who's opposed to communism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean anti-communist as sort of a tradition that it has tendrils all over the place. Right. Conspiratorial mindset definitely that links up with all kinds of historical frameworks, be it blood libel, be it the protocols of the Elders of Zion, all these sorts of conceptions about the New World Order, the Illuminati, all of this, which uses opposition to communism as a mask, essentially. And the actual, the work that they do is against social welfare programs, against rights for people in
Starting point is 01:39:13 minority, we shouldn't even call them anti-communists, just call them the oppressors. I think you might be able to do a little better than that. But I do think that anti-communist could be something of a misleading name. And I do recognize that. I've thought about that for a while in terms of like how I frame things, how I phrase things. Well, I mean, anti-communist is... I think there's a more precise term. I agree with you. Right. I wasn't criticizing your use of anti-communist, of course. But yeah, that is just such a great, brilliant and accepted way for them to get away with saying, we're white supremacists. And everybody just being like, well, they come from an anti-communist tradition of just like, yeah, they come from a, we should blacklist the Jews
Starting point is 01:39:56 tradition. They come from a, black people shouldn't be allowed to drink from the same water fountains tradition. You know what I'm saying? Well, but only not because they don't want black people to drink from the water fountains. It states rights. Oh, no, no, no, it states rights. It's the rebel flag. There's nothing wrong with the rebel flag, Dan. Right. So anyway, I bring this up because you know, one of the hallmarks, particularly of the early anti-communist folks is severe red baiting, a fear of China and Russia. Easy, easy stuff. Apparently though, Alex is one of these neo anti-communists. I love Russia and China. It's kind of weird. Yeah. Well, let me just get this out there right now. The corrupt power structure globally is, is beyond fascist. They're
Starting point is 01:40:48 an absolute joke. And they've sold out American power to build up communist China. How'd it go with corporations? Help them dominate the globe. But now the communist Chinese have double crossed them. What? And they're saying, we're going to have three children. We're not going to depopulate and we're going to start moving to a more capitalist model. We're not going to be communist like you want. And we're not going to feminize our men and screw you. I thought you were mad about the genocide. I'm not defending Xi Jinping. I mean, he's so damn evil. I mean, I guess all he could was move back towards, you know, the other direction. And then you've got Russia out from under the new world order. They got their own problems, not, not, not
Starting point is 01:41:24 romanticizing that, but they're definitely not Hollywood level evil. You got all that going on. You got the Midwest waking up in the South and the, and all over the world, all over the country, people on the East coast are waking up and leaving and people on the West coast. So we're winning hearts and minds. That's why they're coming in with a global government, a world ID, a vaccine passport, carbon taxes, because they're getting their ass handed to them. Now I've learned how the power structure works, not just studying history books, but living it. And so just because I'm here talking about how we're starting to win the fight, doesn't mean we're anywhere close to being out of the woods right now. I thought we were already dead.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I mean, it's just, it's disorienting. And then also just the, the, the framework that he lives in now where like China and Russia are the good ones. It's bizarre. It's really bizarre. It is kind of like what he thought was supposed to happen with 9 11 coming, you know, like they're making you afraid of foreign enemies to bring that home. And he's the anti-communist tradition is to make you afraid of foreign enemies. And now you bring it back home and you should just be afraid of anyone in the world in a densely populated urban center. Yeah. Yeah, there's something to that. So, uh, Alex plays a clip to end the show, but before he does, he wants you to know that the globalists,
Starting point is 01:42:49 the same people who ran Obama, they run Biden, but I mean, they would have to, there's a distinction between the two. That's nice. Yeah. Or is it? I don't know. Okay. The same people that control Obama are the ones that are in control of Biden right now. But I can tell you Obama, because he's so evil and so hateful and hates America so much. He's actually at the star chamber tribunal level. He's actually in there with the top globalist, less than a hundred of them. Obama is at the table. Biden is not the table. Well, that's a fair Obama and Bill Gates and Warren Buffett and all those people are at the table. We've gotten the documents and they decided the world belongs to them and they've
Starting point is 01:43:32 all got a lust to literally depopulate you and your family and they've cooked up viruses, thousands of times worse than COVID-19. They're ready to release. So are you going to sit here naively and let them march you to the plank or are you going to wake up and wake others up and say, hell no, I'm not going down your rattle. Looks like Alex is doing his job of trying to incite people. Yeah, that sounds about right. So I'd like those documents about the people at the table. I would like exactly how big I would like all I want. What are the dimensions of this table? It's got to be huge. It's got to be huge. 100 people and people with big old egos. Oh, huge egos. Yeah, they're not going to be sitting cramped at that table and they're definitely not going to
Starting point is 01:44:11 be eating with only one fork. No, no. I would like those documents because I've heard a lot of different things about the relative position of Bill Gates over the course of my time listening to Alex's show. Middle man gang of 12. He's been everything. Yeah, how does this work with the team of 12? Yeah, what's the team of 12 doing? Is that a group within the 100? I mean, would it have to? Is it a splinter group or is it even, is there another hierarchy within the hierarchy? So I guess there's like 88 people who are at the main table. Right. That's like the kids' table. Yeah. And then the adults, the council of 12 sits over there. Jesus. Right. Okay. All right. And the people who are at the kids' table, they don't get wine. No, that's just, see,
Starting point is 01:44:54 this is what I'm saying. Biden doesn't get a seat at the table. That's unfair. You know, the kids don't get wine. That's unfair. Does Obama get to tell jokes? Obama got to this table of 100 just because he hates America so much. When? When? When? When? When? I would argue that there's a lot of people who hate America way more than him who aren't at that table. I would argue I should be at that table if that is the three requisition criteria and you're in the running. So anyway, yeah, I told you this is not like the best Alex show, but there are things in there that merit discussion and there's, you know, deeply racist undertones totally throughout, throughout a good part of it.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Yeah. Yeah. The quiet part was said loud several times. Well, here's the loud part. Howler. Anyway, we will be back for another episode on Friday, but until then, we have a website. That's right. We do. It's knowledgefight.com and it's please don't kill your family. Oh, I'm sorry. Don't kill your family. I apologize. Don't kill your family. I'm glad that they remembered that we're very pulling. Yes. Yeah. Also, we're on Twitter. We are doing it. It's that knowledge of the score fight. Now go to bed, Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundus. You're a traitor, Dan. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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