Knowledge Fight - #618: November 15, 2021

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's response to the news that he lost the Connecticut case regarding Sandy Hook by another default judgement.  Plus, the gents check in with plaintiff's lawyer Mark Bankston about the developments. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello, Alex. I'm a big fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. I love you. Everybody. Welcome back knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around where she put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Jordan. Jordan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you, sir. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan, is I know a long time listeners will know that I

have finished Survivor. Indeed. Watched every season. Right. And now I'm watching. You have to be that long of a listener for that one. It did. It did happen quicker than I would like to admit faster than the 500 seltzers. So my bright spot is I've been looking around for something to fill that void. Scratch the itch. I've been watching some amazing race and I think it stinks. Sure. I think it's disrespectful to travel and I also hate everybody who's on it. Pretty much everybody sucks. These are good reasons. Yeah. I did finally get to a season that has the Harlem Globe Trotters in it. Aren't they amazing? They're pretty fun. They're pretty great. Yeah. They're pretty great. I like how they'll go to like other countries and then just do basketball. They seem

to genuinely like each other. It's fantastic. They're great. The one of the episodes that I saw the one of the challenges was they had to sew a garment. Yes. And so they were in a garment workshop and then what the other one who's not doing the challenge is just doing basketball tricks and everybody's loving it. So much fun. Anyway, I don't like that show much and I just I found the Australian version of survivor of course. And so the Australian survivor is my bright spot. I think it's fun. It's basically just survivor but with Australian accents and none of the bullshit at this point. None of the bullshit. Yes. I've just started how many years back in sorry. Are you on season one? They only have a few seasons on paramount prime. Gotcha. Ploss or

whatever. So I'm on season four. I think is the first season that they have. Okay. Okay. And I'm only a couple episodes in but no twists. No twists. None. I think that there's a hidden immunity idol but that might be it. This is this is Australia. We don't do twists here. I straightforward. That's not a knife. This is a knife shit. I found it very refreshing after the 100 different rule changes that have gone on on American survivor. You don't like surviving. It's it's it's just it's just it's refreshing to see people playing the game that I remember it being the show loosely what I remember. Sure. So that's my bright spot. How about you? My bright spot. Dan is I just got to it. The war on drugs released a new album and it's my

bright spot because it's one a very good album and two because many people are describing the war on drugs as one of the best rock bands currently today in the description and this most recent album is absolutely a Willie Nelson album. Can we can we just get a clean take of you saying that your bright spot is the war on drugs. The war on drugs. The my bright spot is the war on drugs. Dan I love incarcerating people who don't deserve it. My favorite. Well that doesn't need to be taken totally out context. No. Yeah. No. It's a great album and it is 100 percent of Willie Nelson record. It's it's just a great old time country album with more updated you know distortion that's basically it but it's great. Nice. I love it. You. This is this is continuing in your

tradition of giving music recommendations to the folks and it's fun. It is fun. So Jordan today we have an interesting episode to go over. I'm torn. I'm conflicted. You're torn. Yeah. Because there's a part of me that recognizes that Alex just lost the Connecticut lawsuit. Sandy Hook lawsuit. Sure. Sure. You can say he's cold and ashamed lying. Make it a brilliant. Yeah. He's he's all out of faith. No he's not. He's got plenty of faith left. But yeah. You know we should we got to cover the present day. We got to cover November 15th 2021. Blackjack. Blackjack. You tricked me like a motherfucker. But there's another part of me that wants to dig even deeper into the past. I'm very conflicted and I'm not sure what I'm going to do. But before we find out.

Okay. Oh my God. Do not tease before the break. How dare you. How fucking dare you. This is our this is as close to a commercial break as we literally have. Let's say hello to some new walks. First help. I'm stuck in a policy walk factory. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Next chaotic asexual time crime low key. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Next go Tigers red wings lions and pistons down with Chicago sports. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Interesting name doesn't like Chicago sports. I reluctantly thank you. I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really have a position on that. But I should be against it

because otherwise I'm going to beat up here on the Chicago. Yes. The Blackhawks fans will get me. Yes. Next Anna. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thanks Anna. Thank you and Justin. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much Justin. All right Jordan. So here's the deal. Here's the situation. What is the deal or situation? I want to make a compromise and that is we'll do the present day episode. But I have an out of context drop from 1998. Okay. Here is an out of context drop from the very beginning from April 7 1998. All right. We're following the pattern of history. I am probably good chance 50 percent chance

that I will be killed within the next five years. I don't say this for theatrics and I don't say this to scare you but we need to go ahead and be honest about where we're at in this group psychology realm. Wow. 23 years of saying I will be murdered at any moment. I am about to be killed. Well to be fair I think coming up on the 23 anniversary. What's the what's the is that the the silver anniversary. Which one is that. Yeah. I think it's pearls pearls. I like that a lot. I think that's really fun. But I do think in fairness to him he said it was a 50 percent chance. So maybe you just got lucky on that coin flip. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Are we living in like this for theatrics. This is this like a quantum quantum suicide situation where we're just living in the

wrong universe where he keeps not dying on a 50 50 shot. It's possible. Brutal. Yeah. I found some of these old episodes. Bits of them amazing from the late 90s and also a choice clip from this episode or this April 7 1998 episode has to do with him saying hey we got to not we got to not drink we got to we shouldn't party not because it's wrong but because we need to maintain our focus. Listen. We need to keep our bodies pure. No supplements of any kind. Nothing nothing that could really you know in the bad the body is a temple. Just what God gave us is good enough. No tattoos. No nothing. Yeah. That tone tone has changed a little bit a little bit. Oh I guess we got to get to the present. All right. Jordan I don't want to do it.

Okay. Then let's not do it. Okay. So we have to do it. Okay. Well then let's do it. We do have to. Can we just put it off a little bit. I mean let's not do it. Let's put it off. We'll do it in a little bit in a little bit. Are you double teasing before the break first. Like I feel like you know Alex is in more legal trouble. That's true. So we should probably talk to Mark Bankston the lead attorney. Sure. The plaintiffs in the same case. Right. Right. Right. But there's no way we would get to do that. We talked to him once and that seems like way outside of our. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's outside of our ability. That would never happen. Hey folks we're thrilled to welcome back to the podcast. Delightful guest. Someone who the audience

really took to absolutely fan favorite someone who we do not deserve to be speaking to. Let's be honest about all of that. Lead counsel for the Sandy Hook families in their cases in the Texas courts. Mark Bankston. Welcome back. Good to be here. Good to be good to be home gentlemen. Thank you for coming back. It's awesome. A little little tell you I'll tell you earlier today after the big news and everything was going on. Seeing in and I did one of us to come on and talk to them speak to Anderson Cooper tonight in prime time and I told my partner man hey I think you're gonna have to do it. I got knowledge fight tonight. Once again we have scooped Anderson Cooper got to do the big one like I'm not doing well. Thank you. We appreciate you making time.

I mean it's it's an intense stretch of time since we last spoke and then today we're recording this on Monday which is the day that the Connecticut default at the great Connecticut default. Yes. Yeah. That's what they're calling it. So it's it's a it's got to be a whirlwind. Well you know one thing that proves that is that what I was doing on this case for the last three years wasn't a flu. You know it wasn't just some weird random off the reservation thing. It wasn't some wild west shit that happened down in Texas. It this this happened in the in the stoic state of Connecticut. You know they're I mean they have a whole different thing the way they run things up there and to see this happen there with another judge saying yeah this is

this is beyond ridiculous. This is farcical and I've let it be farcical for so long just out of allowance on who might who the defendant is just not wanting to say we railroaded this guy but like it's been so farcical for so long and now it's finally the time. Yeah it's wild. Yeah. Different judge different plaintiff attorneys. So like all like there's so many different variables. The only thing really that's similar between them is Alex and his behavior. Yeah. Yeah. The only constant is that I love that it reinforces my concept of if a thing happens then this will happen because of it. You know. Like if you do the exact same thing in one court in Texas it will happen in another court if you do the exact same thing. That's great. We live in such a system that

works like that. Our world's been so fake for so long and so weird that you're not yet. The idea of like a uniform field theory of law is insane. Like yeah. I bet there isn't one it's just like once you get to a certain point of like I'm not playing ball. Yeah. The judge takes offense. You're honestly you're absolutely right about that. It's I don't want to give anybody like the faith of oh we're the legal field is doing kumbaya and we're also no no like you have to understand that this is when when you know you go to the Westminster dog show and like a lot of people are going to have different opinions on judges of which dog is the nicest dog or whatever. But if you just bring in a random off the street with mange like they're all going to go

what's going on here like it doesn't even fit with their schema. And when you have a defendant who comes in and treats the court like just like as his own personal playground or whatever like you're going to get the same reaction. Yeah. And I think in doing some looking into like past examples of people who got hit with default judgments like a lot of times I think it happens to celebrities who don't want to have the unpleasantness of being in court like Kelly civil case sure it in a default judgment. Right. So I think I think that Alex's behavior kind of you know it falls into the same sort of like no I don't want to do this. You've been researching a lot of those cases where celebrities just at one point or another decide the only way to win

is not play and they just take off and leave. Right. What's what's really ironic about Jones's situation is he was there to play and he was trying to play whatever game he was going to play. And it was so abhorrent and offensive to the court that that even his behavior there it wasn't you just don't see this that much. You know we talked about it a bit at these hearings of other cases where it's happened under pretty egregious circumstances. But to see a really a first time we've seen a celebrity high profile case and in a default with not just the celebrity walking away. Oh yeah. Like just not like typically they'll just not show up. Yeah. Stop coming to court. Yeah. It is a bit like Alex was invited to play a game of chess and then he was like wait

what if I ate shooting shoots and ladders and shattered on your face. Does that count as a game. I'm going to mousetrap this. I'm a little mousetrap here. I'm a game of life and over on this side. It's just not even playing the same sport. Everything. Everything passed Candyland is too confusing. I'm playing four dimensional chess and beat ball at the same time. This is Calvin Ball. You got to remember he's doing this in two different cases in two different places on two slightly different timelines and has to keep whatever whatever a shell game is happening has to be kept up in both cases on an on a two to three month flag timeline to stay consistent. And as you know like day to day he's not going to be able to stay consistent. So no it's really

bizarre though is that you have both sets of cases and that the conduct that ended in default judgment was totally separate Honda. It wasn't that it wasn't that oh what happened in Texas and our discovery was so bad that he did stuff up there and it was totally different stuff. And the real irony of it is so much of it is they would discover stuff going on up there that's affecting their discovery and I'd be like honestly I can't even brief that to my court because I'm too busy telling them about the other stuff that's going on in my you can't even keep up with it. All this stuff you saw about Google Analytics and all the the fact the trial balances that they brought in some accountant who did a bunch of stuff that's all of that. I never even got a

chance to talk to that about my court. We were done before that even happened and it's stunning that if I hadn't have gotten that default judgment that I got back in September there's absolutely no question I'd have it now just because oh sure it's unreal. But yeah the difference between the two cases is absolutely stunning that he has two very different styles of law and he lost them both. But the behavior you're saying it's different behavior that caused the default judgment but they're like related they're like family they're like cousins right of each other. Yeah they are cousins. It's the same sort of obstinateness kind of. Yes but it is different varieties. In Connecticut things work on a I guess when you're in Connecticut and you're having

to litigate there there's a pretty high set of demands you've got to keep the briefs coming in on a really regular period they're really regimented you're showing up at monthly status conferences they're actually having to work really hard to try to keep their heads above water in Connecticut. In Texas you can go long periods where you're not before the court and if you're a bad litigator you can get yourself into some enormous holes during those periods of time. I imagine COVID didn't help also. Not at all right yeah that wasn't good for them either. But what was what was stunning about is in Texas their transgressions are mostly just an abject like not even just a refusal but just didn't even show up to play kind of ideas of discovery they didn't answer the

discovery they court would order them to do something they just flat out wouldn't do it and then they'd expect to show up in the next hearing and everything would be okay. In Connecticut they actually tried to do the stuff and that's actually maybe what got them in more trouble it just took longer is that the stuff they did was really absurd and so it's really the the offense and disrespect in Texas was really something but the absolute clown show that was what they tried to fix the situation in Connecticut was maybe even worse. So in Connecticut they demanded like I don't know bank records and he gave them a shoe or something. No no look all I can speak of is from what's in the public pleading. Sure sure. What ended up in Connecticut but from what is

stated in those pleading from from what I can gather from what is stated there is that they were they were asked to have their account in their QuickBooks person press the button on QuickBooks that produces the subsidiary ledgers and all the financial trial balances for the company and then they said here they are here's what she gave you and then a little bit later on they discovered because of some weird irregularities in there the enforce had to admit well actually we printed that button and then we gave it to an accountant and then that accountant well he said that the figures were misleading so he changed the figures I believe in I believe the technical term for accounting that is cooking them and see those figures and said now he made enough these

are accurate figures the one he gave you and like no they had to disclose that these accountant had touched this side I'd been and like all of a sudden it's like they had been sitting at deposition where they're asking the lady these are the files that you produced to see you clicked out of QuickBooks she's like yeah I think so council's sitting right there he know he gave them to the accountant and like nobody says anything you know I'm just sitting there reading these public the records of this it just stunned that this stuff's happened so these hearings about what's what's going on there I'm like honestly like again the difference between two forms those guys are lucky they didn't even try to pull that stuff down in Texas because I would have

oh my god your honor your honor your honor we had all of this money that was covered in like filth and dirt so before we gave it to you we sent it to a washing machine I don't understand what the problem is here we didn't want to give you dirty money it's a problem I'm glad you you brought that up actually because that was one of Alex's big defenses on his show today when he was responding to the the default judgment in Connecticut it was that oh they said I didn't give them bank records I gave them a spreadsheet like that so it's interesting to hear that the reality is they had changed some numbers I gave them a spreadsheet covered in whiteout that's the best out I mean and look I want to make clear too just for people who are listening here when I say

that I'm reading the public records and I'm telling you about what's going on in Connecticut realize one I don't represent those Connecticut plaintiffs but but I can at the docket it's online you can read all the documents and when I say I'm reading from public record what I'm describing to you about like an accountant going out and then making the the numbers that were misleading that's not taken from the plaintiff's pleadings that's taken from infowars pleadings right like you read infowars pleadings and that's what they say they did and so like I don't I don't feel like I'm telling tales out of school or anything like that's literally what they're telling the public they did that's a little crime between friends come on we're all buddies here I don't I don't know

none of that looks above board to me right like I don't I don't know exactly what's going on but what I do know is at the end of the day that like they just did not produce the things that the court wanted them to produce and they can't do that now and now in Connecticut that seemed to take kind of forever to reach that point because they really do get a lot of procedural safeguards in Texas we still have hanging trees outside the courthouse like we still remember you don't mess around with it they're not they're not operational no we're we're not using them but we don't agree now yes yeah and like I'm not I'm not kidding you go into the Austin courthouse you go into like I mean Houston's got a place in a different one now but they're not

Austin courthouse where he's going to be where I grew up in Fort Bend you look outside the direct window of the courthouse you are and there is a giant oak tree with a straight you know horizontal branch that's been trained that way and that like that brand you know what that is yeah and it's this weird imposing legacy of the Texas legal system staring you in the face and day today today it stares in the face of like we're murderers we're well I mean that too but also mostly just largely alienated and disenfranchised and and not people who have the power of the state of raid against him and perhaps unjust ways sure the fact that Alex Jones is going to have to spend two weeks in that courtroom looking out that window is made you know that's a good feeling

that he has to be in that courtroom oh I believe it posing place to be I don't know if y'all've seen the interior that place like there is there is aggressive imagery all over that courthouse it is a scary courtroom to be in especially especially when you're in a in a disadvantageous situation perhaps yeah when you got a default judgment against you and a jury is going to assess your yeah and I was I was looking into it and it's uh the the rules in Texas if I'm not mistaken are that you have 14 days is that right to like try and get a default judgment put aside uh no you're not not quite right on that okay so you would be correct if the idea was he just didn't answer the lawsuit and I found a default judgment it was entered then he found out and it's he's got 14

days to get up there okay since they know I want to defend the suit he really only has one for for kind of get inside baseball he really only has one appellate option for challenging these default judgments and in Texas that's an emergency appeal known as a mandamus we have a weird name for it and Ozzy mandamus right exactly I've heard that term used a lot by sovereign citizens sure yes it's one of those like classical 18th century terms that like we're only involved when ship captains were involved in suit guys weird maritime law yes maritime law stuff but but yeah so it's an emergency appeal they don't even necessarily the court appeals doesn't even have to take it up if they don't want to uh it doesn't really stop the case or anything so there

there are appeals options are low but they do get a shot at that um that that clock is running out very quickly sure sure I was curious about that because it seemed like it would be bizarre it'd be bizarre to me if like he didn't try and do something like that you know trying to feel I mean there is a time limit on it so he's not too great at keeping up with those but I think he likes surprising too that's true that's true I mean look this'll really shock him I'm gonna be here on time yeah you know if you're like making a debut at a wrestling event you don't want to show up before your cue totally you know you gotta yeah you want to blow that interest yeah and now he's got I mean here's the thing is if he's really thinking about it he does have a march trial set

he's at the stage it's ready to go and he don't want to pull the rug out from under that maybe I don't know I think maybe something else in his calculus could be that the last time he tried to appeal an adverse ruling in the Hesslin case he ended up owing me $25,000 for wasting my time so he wants to roll the dice again go for it I'm I'm that has that has the negative stimulus that might be enough to get you to be like well maybe not do that again I think I think the greatest irony of all is that there's a good chance Alex winds up an illegal immigrant in Mexico so then he goes around yeah I mean how else are you gonna get out of this one I mean look you joke about it but but as a plaintiff's attorney you always have to be prepared to pursue assets wherever they

go and and he wouldn't be the first person to run on a judgment like this that's for sure I've uh I've liquidated everything and bought a coffee farm in Chiapas I could actually picture like a kim.com situation where like itails it down in New Zealand or something and sets up a pirate radio station oh they wouldn't let him in there I think it would be closer to a John McAfee situation yeah that's right where there's bath salts in a murdered neighbor maybe so so one of the things that I wanted to ask you about because I think that uh I find this fairly interesting is that like the Texas cases if I understand correctly the defendant in that is all Alex right no no so that is not so that's not okay so in Texas you have generally three

defendants you have Jones himself and you have his two companies that are primary again at the time we filed the suit the two companies we thought was primarily involved in infowars which is free speech systems LLC infowars LLC turns out you get into the suit and even though infowars LLC's names all over the website as it was at that time that that company does not exist it's a paper thing it has no employees no revenue no assets no nothing as far as we can tell the other entities that are being sued up in Connecticut for instance uh infowars health LLC prison planet tv LLC also completely paper entities totally these were a bunch of entities that were spun off in 2013 right around the time of the divorce to try to reorganize the business none of it really seemed to take off

I don't really understand why but they put every egg in the basket in free speech systems so really in terms of that's really it it's Jones and free speech system so he has some assets personally has some in a corporate form because like everything is under free speech systems right I mean like most of these supposedly like I mean it's not well done like like you can't look at a document and say this is a subsidiary of free speech systems LLC but they will certainly testify to the status for instance infowars LLC being a subsidiary of instead of like a horizontal affiliate or something like that but now it's just basically just one what we call an alter ego it's just all Alex Jones it's it's um to sham before there's no separation between Jones and his businesses or any

of the businesses themselves I'm sure I'm sure that that's not intentional to confuse people right surely no that organization strategy yeah no it's totally above board business so they would never do that yeah but the other defendant in our cases uh that is not up in Connecticut which is just delightful is Owen shroyer oh that's right that's right and the Owen shroyer is because he had he went on and said specific things about Neal hustling and went ahead and put his self on the line now that is something I guess I didn't think about did Owen shroyer also have a default judgment against him yeah yeah that one's got default oh wow okay I think that's the last talked about wow talked about more shouldn't it yeah I would I would say

that the non-rich guy getting a summary judgment against him is far more damaging than the very rich man getting a second I mean look here's the thing though right like okay so what do you what do you what do you do to Owen shroyer besides your own his credit like you don't you don't collect anything if he if he owns a home which I'm not sure he does that's going to be a Texas homestead exemption you can't go collect that if if he has any non-exempt property I don't know what it would be I don't understand him to be a rich guy and and really even you know most rich guys it's kind of hard to go so like if Owen shroyer the only thing you can do is have a a giant judgment sitting out to just ruin his credit and he can never buy a car again like that's

just really all right I mean I mean I'll not satisfy my client I'll live I'll live with that for now this satisfies Jordan sense of justice no I mean I it doesn't satisfy my sense of judgment when you asked what are you going to do to Owen shroyer believe me the answer wasn't ruin his credit that was not your hope that was not my vote well the fascinating thing too there is that like he's facing uh some possible difficulties about the the sixth uh from his you know he got in trouble from that that's like I don't know if that was a criminal thing but no it's yeah thing too yeah it's not good not good times shouldn't have so many I would have I would have destroyed six fewer cucks if I were him yeah flew too close to that's you know it's funny when you one of the

first questions you gotta you gotta ask the guy when you're in deposition with him he's got an author page on info wars and it's like I am it's they haven't updated in a while you know so it's like still very much like I am I am most well known for my confrontations with Carl the cuck in AIDS to be most known for that I'm gonna see if I can change that for you um but he did not show up for a deposition correct he did not show up he got sanctioned for that uh his deposition right now is currently scheduled for December 3rd so that should be fun that would be so much fun I I feel like I'm getting him before the feds dude that's a good thing is you know we brought that up in the last hearing we were a little concerned about that

you're putting off your deposition forever and he's got pending criminal indictment and all of that yeah and and the thing is is yeah they've they've been for the past three months they've just been on info wars making noise as much as they want would not challenge not whatever and they'll finally they get you know a guy like Owen sits down in the chair and he's gonna have to answer questions I know those will be the last depots we take hopefully I would love to see Owen have to sit like in a serious circumstance with adults and be asked like so you're the cuck destroyer huh like just see how he defends himself I'm like do you think that's childish because I think that I just like court stenographers happen to type in on their shorthand machines

cuck destroyer what's the yeah that's gonna have there's been some weird things there's been some very strange things that court reporters have never had to type before that in the type side right destroyer I mean you bring up this good point of like okay you've got this guy who's kind of passing himself off as a news anchor right like he's delivering journalism and then like in the same breath like you know after the break I go after Carl the cuck or what you know whatever it is it's like is he taking his job seriously enough when he's doing Carl the cuck stuff who cares but the moment he starts like making accusations that the you know mass casualty surviving father as a CIA general like

does anybody ever have any illusion that anybody's taking any of this seriously and and Owen Shroyer proves to you no they do not it's nobody taking this seriously yeah he's he's an interesting like sort of middle case too because like you know he started in St. Louis doing like sports journalism yeah I thought he was going to be a barstool guy right yeah and so there's a decent chance that he might have some pretension about like what he's doing as being sort of journalistically relevant but then that path never really worked out and he only really got success by yelling at Carl the cuck yeah and then Alex being like this is fun I'm gonna hire this guy so it's weird he actually came on my radar I mean he came on my radar when oh gosh the chicken

the sailor moon costume who told him about Venezuela oh yeah yeah yeah the red scare check so yeah so I that's how he like came on to my radar is he's that guy and then and then like I you constantly just see videos of like 12 year old kid destroys Owen Shroyer yeah there was that child who told him to fuck off yeah from the finger yeah just so I just thought he was a ridiculous guy and it was weird that when I got these cases I understood a little bit about interwars and so I kind of knew who was in the Sandy Hook and you know and I knew that was Rob do and that whole crew and Darren McRain all this for guys but like the idea that Owen Shroyer showed up in it to me was like what's like you're the comedy guy and he wasn't even like working for them what in that

relevant most of that period exactly probably in high school because yeah he comes in in 2016 so like when he's doing these things in 2017 it's weird though because he becomes sort of in Jones's hatchet man for this Jones knows he can't talk about the family specifically so if he wants to talk about the families he sends Owen Shroyer out to do it the Owen Shroyer does the thing about no hustle not holding this kid he does the video about Erica Lafferty and confronting her yeah I don't know if I'll see that video but but Shroyer just goes off about I don't understand what your problem is ma'am you know I don't understand why you're not listening to men like Wolfgang Howbig and Jim Fetzer have done the most reliable reporting possible on this event and I don't know

why you're trying to butt heads of people who are trying to figure out what happened to your mom I think a lot of that could be you know slightly motivated by trying to prove that he belongs in that space like that Alex Jones in four-war space yeah I mean he's he's been very clearly on that path of like I want to please daddy so much so that I will never be able to buy a car again you know the the English guy threw him under the bus so now I can replace the English guy you know that's fine totally yeah like I don't I he is an interesting case and and people aren't talking about him enough in this suit because he is he's Jones's protege and and people don't realize that that he just got on and did those marching orders and did those things and

he's just as much a part of all of this yeah it's one of the things that we've kind of looked at over the course of us doing the podcast is like who is the heir apparent like who is the person who's supposed to do this after Alex has a heart attack or crashes is any number any number of possible ways for him to die what happens and it always seemed like Paul Joseph Watson but at some point he seemed to want to distance himself a bit and it came kind of clearly on yeah and that was a disappointing point yeah for pretty much you know when I came on this case I was probably less busy so I was better in touch with right wing online media but like I said the last couple of years too I'm just who can stomach it right no offense to you guys like for instance I haven't

been keeping up with Paul and seeing what Paul Watson's career looks like right now and and how much it's still a part of infowars and what he's trying to carve out for himself but it seemed like that's what he was doing in some way and I I figured he was going to be on the level of like a big Shapiro he's gonna like he's gonna eventually be that kind of figure and I don't know what he's up to now I think what he started this site called summit.news that was basically just like a you know news blog kind of thing uh with bunch of basically another gateway pundit you know yeah um but I think that his mistake might have been getting too involved um in like some European politics and some British stuff like Nigel Farage and uh those folks I think he

got pretty hard in the UKIP uh yeah yeah that killed his cred over there yeah I think I think it would at least slowed him down like kind of was a speed bump so I think he's much less relevant uh no that's interesting and you know while we were on this case you could also see another heir apparent trying to develop themselves and Robert Barnes who was trying to oh he was giving it a go yeah he was really giving it a go I don't know you uh I've never seen a man like so desperate for like online engagement and like just to have like the rambling clapping seals of right wing twitter just clap for any crap he pretends he's doing but like the idea that you haven't able to like successfully monetize that into making yourself a star like just give it up

by now because I swear it's it's the right wing grift right now is so easy I saw not to like completely change the subject but I saw Alex Barron's in the the COVID misinformation guy had started a sub stack and the dude's gonna he's bringing in a million a year on that sub stack just like blogging three times a week about COVID misinformation and if you're Robert Barnes how can you work this hard and not be like just the I don't know well I think I think Barnes fucked up uh because he uh obviously couldn't make a patreon and so he tried to get on uh locals I think is the name of it the uh Ben uh not bad Dave should be uh not that Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson uh Patreon clone intellectual dark web patreon yeah yeah and I don't I don't

think that's as uh as lucrative there's there is something nice about how easy the right wing grift is is how easy you should know when to quit you know like if you fail within your first month just give up you've already failed forever yeah exactly yeah exactly but you know you did it was weird to see and I always wonder about that with Barnes of like you're hosting info wars constantly while you're representing this case and then all of a sudden you get like your own show yeah and you're like he's seriously like he had his own show for a while and like where'd that go like that cancelled because that looks good I mean look it seems to be other shit on info wars like some of this new this I think I'll some new guy like some of this stuff and I'm like it's not like

I mean I'm not praising Robert Barnes here but like it like that's that's some of your best compelling stuff like what do you have better than that like like if that isn't cooking it for you then something must be really wrong because there's just not they have a lot on offer and again it does go to show that info wars is alex jones it always will be alex jones without alex jones there isn't no info wars yeah 100% about the fascinating personality and then craziness that underlies all of that and everybody knows it he produced it himself by fascinating personality of course you mean very well researched information um uh yeah um Barnes well you know my mom raised me on people like gordon vidal and some of those great debates of the 1950s and 60s where william buckley would

get in there and you can't help watch alex jones not really feel shades of that you know of uh yes high-minded yeah good stuff back to barns really quick uh another thing uh as as that was all happening uh like him ascending in info wars and being alex's lawyer uh me and jordan were both like alex he's trying to take over that's what i was thinking yeah he's trying to become seriously he's literally watching you go down in court i mean like presiding over he loves it and he loved it he was doing it you're absolutely right until you got scared of the courtroom and never came back oh why would you ever go back it's a terrible idea you're gonna feel bad in texas with the hanging tree outside heck yeah exactly hot water you'd hightail it out of there it's of course he hightailed

it out of there he said i thought i was like alex look out behind you like yeah it's not good if somebody who's clearly wanting to become like an on-air personality talent is also the person who gets paid more the longer you're in court yeah yes guys that's working a little against purposes you presume and i you can never presume this about the law you presume that he's getting paid by the hour to be in court and not paid by paid in shows true you know what i mean like you don't know how those things work i mean it's yeah but if you want to diversify your revenue stream you also get a tv show on top of your law practice it is better call sol all over again buddy this is what we're doing the tv show is very generous that is a very generous way of

describing it um yeah we also i mean look this is honestly this is a guy a lawyer who has on his website like a donate give me money to go super people or something i'm like what the what what is this like i don't like i came into this world i came from a world i'm a kind of weird guy but i came from a world of kind of like you know regular lawyers who do things the regular way even though we're like absolute pirates and going after who we go after but like we and when we came to these people and saw like yeah here's just a guy who's just like hey crowd send me money and crowd fund me to to be like that's not how law works so what are you doing i accept donations in bitcoin is that stuff i don't uh it is strange but i guess it works i mean it must that's that's the thing

yeah wherever wherever there aren't slap lawsuit laws i think he's he's he's there he's the batman of states that don't have slap it's really interesting because he tried to come into this lawsuit portray himself as a first amendment hero to be anti you know i'm gonna take out these slaps that we're facing and this is like and then like every little other thing i've ever seen him do is go to a state without a slap law and file some crazy suit against it him and uh him and norm panis are two of the most important constitutional lawyers that have ever practiced according to alex right like i've heard that yeah you know i mean really as you've known from the from the from the hearings the elephant in the room has been mark randonso this whole time like yeah

the other like weird guy who's like branded himself a first amendment lawyer who kind of came out of uh i mean like at first he was very much an anti first amendment lawyer in a way of like working for porn companies to go after people who are posting their porn videos online and stuff like that and then like kind of like switched years off without even a bunch of stuff happened in that and you can read all about that online but then he he switched into like i'm now a first amendment crusader but it's it's weird how every single like anytime you see oh randonso is involved in that like you like oh i understand what the defendant's going to be like then it's not great i can look not great yeah no and look i can understand like i okay let's let's say i was

gonna be some first amendment defense lawyer which i'm not i'm a plaintiff's lawyer but like if i was gonna be a defense lawyer on that front i would be proud to to list on my resume a nazi that i represented right or like a kkk guy right and like i'm in there defending his free speech rights principally not like doing a bunch of underhanded stuff to do it but like sure it may be maybe i'd even be proud if i had like one or two or even three nazis or if i had four nazis or five nazis or something like that but like once you start getting above that number like now you're just a nazi lawyer your number for nazis is way higher than my number for not weird cavalcade of people around this guy and so that all that that's what honestly was like through my switch about mark

randonso getting involved in these cases yeah but as you'll see from like the recent stuff in front of the court when we discovered what his professional history really is when when we discover the things that he has done in his career all of a sudden like it stopped being about like this guy seems weird maybe hangs around nazis too much like this guy seems like a genuine menace to us like could potentially be really dangerous in this courtroom and so we brought a bunch of briefing about that um and and our court said no mark randonso cannot come anywhere near the state of texas courtroom it will not happen and now there is they have actually launched an appeal on that like they you got to understand the default judgments have been entered they haven't appealed

those yet but mark randonso is appealing already that's super that's super important we need mark rondaza in the in this right i guess but actually that's what's going to be occupying the next bit of the party's times is that and so all of that and you i know some of y'all follow this case here um um that's all we'll be online at the court of appeals website just follow along so they're they're trying to appeal mark rondaza being allowed to be involved in the next stages of exactly case the come to fendham during these last stages exactly yeah i mean that's the last thing they've got look here's the other development sort of old since last we spoke sort of thing sure and i can talk about this now because this is public record this is in the case in the case

files you can go look at it but as some of your viewers know we represent a young man and who was accused of being a shooter in parkland and totally falsely and and jones has had a different lawyer in that case he's had a he's had a long time corporate lawyer who's been in that case guy named eric taube has represented him and that appeared for all three years like in the info worst cases we've had now we're up to the seventh lawyer but in parkland it's been just that one lawyer the entire time i've seen taube's name like uh like historically like he's been around with alex's stuff for quite a while exactly he's the person who came up with all these corporate forms that we were talking about her uh corporate guy like yeah he arranged all of that um and and so his

names on are on all of that stuff so he's been around for age for you know maybe more than a decade i don't know um well in the midst of the fontaine case real recently after these default judgments and some other things went down eric taube moved to withdraw as his counsel and filed a motion with the court saying um i can't tell you why because there's no client communication i can't tell you why but my continued representation would force me to violate the texas disciplinary rules of conduct and violate my ethical duties nobody knows what that means nobody has any idea what the conflict is what the unethical thing that he would be forced to do is what it you know there's you could speculate a million different ways under the sun but from attorney client we don't know

all we know is something something's rotten in denmark in terms of that relationship oh yeah and he withdrew now in the fontaine case they haven't been lawyer um we'll see what happens when you say we don't know what that means i disagree we know exactly what that means we just don't know specifically what it means your honor uh alex requires me to wear parachute pants every time i go to the courtroom i cannot ethically do that let me give you a like a super benign one right that i don't think it is but this would be like a super benign one right like if i'm representing a client and i've been representing them for three years or whatever in the suit and then all of a sudden i realize i find out for some reason that that that client and who he's suing is actually

somebody i used to represent right like like i'm like let's say i sue info wars right or something like that or let's just make it really easy right like like i sue you want you come to me and you want to sue target and i'm representing you suing target and then somewhere in the suit i reckon i realized oh shit i used to represent target but i didn't know that because they must have a different name they must have been named something different back then that could give you that would lead to the same result right now i can no longer ethically represent it the deal about that is is you'd be able to disclose that because like your representation of target like that's all public and stuff this is something inside the relationship something that deals with the attorney client relationship itself

and therefore nobody knows like you know it deals with that relationship you know that there's something ethical going on there but you know what he really knows what it is your honor your honor i would like to withdraw alex just watch better call sol and he's got some ideas i do not like it well the thing that the thing that typically comes up like all would be um i this client asked me to do something six months ago and i thought it was all above board when it happened and i've recently discovered facts that say that's not above board and now i can't if i would need to reveal it or leave one of the two has to happen if you won't let me let them have to leave a law school example so we don't know if that kind of conflict exists or not we don't know

and so it's just so strange to be in this case so i don't even have a posing console on one of the cases right now it's but that's i mean that's something that's gotta develop i think actually alex has said that that case is already he already beat that one according to his public statements on his uh his show like i believe if your lawyer quits you win right isn't that how works if you suck so hard your own lawyer quits the government is like there's nothing we can do yeah you want his feeling on that one look you've got to say what is what is argument there is is that that suit is against free speech systems kit daniel's and the company because kit daniel's the one alex jones never didn't like pre approve his article or get on and say something about

parkland so alex jones isn't individually right but it's it's info wars and kit daniel's are our defendants there so i was like hey i'm free but hey that all your money is next door at the studio at south lamar like no no no no it's all kit daniel's throw him yeah yeah independent contractor literally never met the guy before honestly yeah what i hire someone named kit please i don't know why you're ragged on it's a cool name i don't like an old timey western hero it's awesome that's why i think alex would take offense to it you can't have an old timey western hero that's not alex man yeah that's true i have a couple more questions i wanted to run by you if that's all right the first one was and this is more of sort of like a personal uh sort of sense

did this come as a surprise to you it seems like it did the the default judgment in the Connecticut case uh no no i don't think it did okay no no let me put it this way i've known that that default judgment was coming in Connecticut probably for about three four months like that seemed pretty obvious to me that that's where they were heading yeah i mean look it's it's it's really it's i'm not no stradamus i'm just looking behind me you know what i mean like i know where we've been i know where they're going and i see the orders they're getting and i'm like i remember being there and and so like i know where they're going and they're just going right in our way because it's the same place there's nothing like you said there's nothing too different about it

it it did surprise me i guess it what really surprised is that once they were in super hot water in texas that they didn't wise up a little bit and change their tactics a little bit both in texas in Connecticut to mitigate the damage in texas and not have this happen in Connecticut that is surprising after the summer after what i've seen i'm not surprised what's happened now not again yeah i guess i guess the the the thing i guess you were saying was more surprising is that it's a different thing that got them in trouble there yeah that in texas yeah there's just there's just so much that it's like wow like they still had more in the more powder to burn like most people couldn't get default judgments against them for anything and they have to try

yeah they have to really give it a try i mean it's not an easy thing to do and so yeah i i don't think i was really surprised i was surprised when i didn't get it in 2019 because i really thought i deserved it in 2019 i thought what they did was just ridiculous but i understood what was going on there like we give them a chance on appeal we give them their whatever and if they come back and they decide they're gonna play nice give them another chance when they came back after appeal in this summer and then things just were just a mess just falling apart i knew something was up then when they had the whole thing up in Connecticut where they released uh the plans information to try to depose peccillary clinton and all the weirdness i was like okay like any

idea that this was going to go normal is that's gone so there's only one way it can go the the water can only roll one day wait on this hill and so i knew where it was going sure i when i it's interesting i i think i said to god today obviously you can imagine reporters just calling me off the hook and i think i said to one reporter i always knew we were gonna be johns i just didn't think it would happen in this ridiculous of a fashion does it feel deflating a little bit that it is it's actually kind of infuriating on something and part of it is that the case is so obviously meritorious that you don't need the default judgment you don't need it it's it's it's ridiculous like like so and when jones has the default judgment it allows him to point back to it and say i got

railroad this is all kangaroo i was never found guilty yeah this is all just you know and so it does deflate from the importance of it but i think on the other end there's the there's the other in that it is almost kind of poetic that it demonstrates like what an absolute ridiculous character is that he won't even participate in the suits rider respect the family's ability to have their day in court against him yeah none of that even happened it is almost fitting of like yeah this does show it's almost even proves our case i will die away like you can't even you can't even participate in the lawsuit without being completely malicious like yeah there's that that elevates it but i am you're right it sucks yeah but there isn't going to be a full out like

everything's in the hand of 12 jurors and you can never point at anybody but them yeah i think i think maybe some cold comfort is that you know you can really look at this as as him being basically a coward and not being willing to engage with this process for what you can only assume is probably a keen awareness that he was not going to win this no he's going to very much loose and you know i think that masculinity and bravado is such an important thing to him and just sort of being able to look at this and be like well you couldn't even stand up and and face uh responsibility and prove yourself right if you are if you were right i mean i think i think the largest problem though is it seems very clear to me that once the case was brought and his

lawyers actually spoke to him he was essentially like okay i've lost and so what i managed to do is ring the end of the fucking democracy out of it uh for an extra few years i mean i think that's look it's it's a good theory but the problem if that is is that i really think that jones was led astray by some really bad legal counsel in this case well and i feel like some people came in and told him you are gonna win you're gonna be a larry flint hero at the supreme court if you don't and you are gonna win and we're gonna vindicate this for you and they they feed his own bs back to him and say yeah this is all globalist shows are coming out i know two people who have said that to him on air also please do not fill in an amount for this check yeah that is it's it's very interesting

that they have strung him along on this idea that he doesn't have to play for i mean i'm not look when we deposed him and some of the stuff we asked him about discovery and and i really do feel some of it was honestly yes i just turned this over to the lawyers that's why we went after the lawyers on that those bits um but i think they really did at some point the worms started the turn that the only way that these lawyers could convince him that their series of failures wasn't due to really bad potentially actionable things on jones behalf like like if if you understand jones has the right to bring malpractice actions against his attorneys right like if if there was that was a thing he can do that if he thinks that there was malpractice done in the

way his case was done i think we have a next chapter right i think what seems to be from what we see how the court proceedings played out is that they convinced him that no this wasn't a result of anything that we've done wrong it's because the system is rigged against you and you're in a kangaroo court and this is a show trial i don't know that uh from my position knowing like from everything i can tell based on my hours of listening to him i don't think anyone needed to convince him of that yeah like that there's a conspiracy against him no but i really think that event at the beginning he thought that he was going to win he was going to go into these courts and he was going to prove himself right he was going to embarrass me and the globalist

and all of that i mean at the very beginning of the case he thought he was going to collect money from the parents like like that's how wild he really did think that for a while he was he was relishing watching me fall on my face that was something he could not wait to see happen and when it didn't happen and when every time his attorneys came back to him and said you owe more money now you have to pay because we owe more attorney's fees now then they just convinced him you're getting railroaded it's not that we're doing anything wrong it's you're getting railroaded and then that's what caused him after these default judgments to just now and why i feel kind of free to speak out like this is because he just spent days on his show saying that our judge was

like you know satanic cannibal with the globalist pedophile pizza gate people or whatever and and like he has now just done the worms turn he's like now you just don't play now i'm just not participating i'm not going to play these people's games and so from here on out i'm just expecting it to just be a just an absolute circus i don't think anything's going to happen normally from here till trial yeah his prediction today was that he's going to get default judgment in the second stage of the case as well but he also is claiming that he's not being allowed to participate in the uh this phase this penalty phase i'd be happy for him to participate in whatever way he would like to that would love for him to be that was my sense of it yeah i'd love for him to participate

man that seems like it was his choice oh that's the that's the radio version of the hold me back hold me back right yeah no no please please hold me back yeah no i mean that's why i have to push back on this stuff why i have to come out and like again i'm doing part of the reason like i like to come on your show i know it's weird and i know we cuss and we say weird stuff and maybe we're a little bit you know different than normal mainstream media but the problem is is like mainstream media is really bad about getting these stories wrong and they're really bad about just taking whatever they want and using it to do their agendas and jones will use that too so i do like to use this kind of form to say the things that are being said about the conduct of the attorneys about

the conduct of the court about the conduct of the plaintiffs they're all it's bullshit none of it's true like it's said very loudly like it's not true yeah and and it's it's so disrespectful to see a person who has already gone through all of these links and and then now gets these orders against them and is now just like no that's that's lost like i can't i have to get on here and tell you like these things that are being said by jones out of his mouth are simply not true well i think you're preaching to the choir right but look my words travel from here right like there are people watch this shit and then it's not just the people you think right like like there my my words are kind of being watched a little bit and and and when i go out on the safe i was to go on ms mbc

and try to fit what i'm trying to say there i it would be butchered to hell but but when i'm here with you guys i think i can say the realities of what the public record shows and and that i've had to sit by and watch him get on his his show and say the most insane things about this case that it feels liberating to be able to now say that those things aren't true and so that this is a record and people will take my words out so i'm glad that would be for posterity well and we definitely appreciate you being willing to offer that perspective and come talk with us like it's it means a lot i had one more question if that's all right before we we were running on and i'm sure i know like we just ramble when we get on again i was curious if there are any consequences

that he might be facing in connecticut that are different than the possibility of what he could be facing in texas or if they're both financial no they're both financial but i mean the one difference is texas contempt walls are a little bit harsher texas can just send you a jail if you're an asshole too often yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah judges do imprison people from time to time when they do things that are wrong uh that happens less up in connecticut um but yeah we're basically looking at the same kinds of of judgments and rits of garnishment rits of attachment so yeah it is all just basically monetary penalty and and just like i guess assets wrapped up exactly like yeah okay yeah yeah and and ultimately the ability to levy against the

corporation itself and all of that and like like there's there's a lot of there's a lot of heavy-handed stuff you can do to enforce the judgment i i mean what you've described so far though i cannot imagine the nightmare after all of the legal aspects are over just that like okay let's apportion what it is that we need to give to people through two different courts through two different lawsuits through multiple plaintiffs through all of this stuff they're going to have to find a really really evil accountant to get out of some of that shit i think i know we're gonna have to find some uh some pretty aggressive accountants on the other side yeah yeah it's totally it's it's it's gonna be like csi accounting you know what i mean like it's gonna be some stuff

like that and so that that'll be interesting i mean who knows how long this will last of course because you totally the verdict and so we'll have to see where that goes there's not that's the interesting thing you always thought he'd go up to the supreme court and have some great first amendment appeal it's not gonna how dare you sir can't happen now and you can go up and he can appeal i wasn't that disrespectful like i wasn't that much of a contemptuous litigant like and that's never gonna work so he really doesn't have an appeal it's so it is you're right that we when you're talking about like oh it's champagne time yeah when you have both sets of cases defaulted and therefore you know it neither of them was a fluke so they're not getting

overturned yeah it's good turkey's done it feels like the uh appeal avenue he could have would be like taking it to the supreme court whether or not people can have default judgments yeah yeah whether that's an allowable legal concept but that seems like an impossible thing for him to engage in and i don't think he would win that no and i mean like why would you at that point i mean at some point you're gonna close up shop and figure out yeah it's important good money after bad so i don't know what's gonna happen well you know i know we're working you know i want to say that the only thing i know is we're gonna go to a trial of 12 good peers do yeah yeah do we i don't know that that's happening do you know that there might just be a piece of paper well alex has sworn that he's

going to keep going no no matter what even if uh he loses all his money he will continue the info war love it uh and i look forward to that i look forward to the possibility of us having uh more that would be fun yeah that would be nice no uh well mark thank you so much for joining us i think we should probably we've been i feel like it's been about an hour and a half and i feel like it yeah it's been a long darn time it's longer than i anticipated but i i've had a great time you know what look and chop it up like you want do it you don't have to play the whole hour like hour and a half but like you you want to let the tape run let the tape run but uh i think i think our audience particularly likes long episodes oh yeah so i have no problem with that they they yell at me

when it when we stopped having episodes that were like three hours long so i don't know they're weird those guys thank you so much mark oh yeah i'll be back look this is a ongoing thing we got to keep it up so i can't wait for the next update love it we'll figure it out all right have a good one all right now that the 1998 and uh conversation with mark bankston is out of the way sure i feel like i'm an emotional place where i can actually get to this i'll do it we'll talk about we'll talk about november 15th i think you have to leave the studio i don't think you have i think you're just too mad to talk about this i mean i'm sorry but they it's not the cruise fault dan yeah so uh we start here on the 15th and alex is concerned uh that uh patriots are getting jammed up except for

kyle rittenhouse everyone that has stood up to the globalist deep state is being indicted they're being swat teamed they're being denied trial by juries they're being imprisoned this is the weaponization of the judiciary in this country there's still pools of honorable people in the judiciary like you're seeing in the canosha case with the judge there who's actually doing a fair trial but in all the sorrows controlled zones like austin texas and uh new haven connecticut you see naked corruption mafia level organized crime in my view from the judiciary just just complete lawlessness and here's a great example of that overhead shot police here on this november 15th monday transmission look at this headline out of the associated press alex jones loses

lawsuit over sandy hook hoax conspiracy yeah i wonder why he chose those two specific cities for where uh the globalists have really taken over dan i don't know not sure um some of the examples of the patriots who are getting jammed up are pretty fun too because it's james o' keith because he got raided sure and uh he already committed a felony too true uh and then steve bannon getting indicted and i just think that's really funny that alex would put steve bannon in that group because he hates bannon hates bannon he hates him yeah roger stone is like basically called for his death wow i mean who's not calling for anybody's death these days bannon is such a traitor and that's like patriots are getting jammed everybody everywhere people are framing steve bannon for

a shit that he definitely didn't do that i said he did i'm so furious that he's stolen the name war room for his podcast but also he's a great man standing up he's a hero stands up to the globalist can't stand him he's the devil himself very confusing uh but whatever you have to do in order to make your own victimhood uh being you know losing these cases by default judgment sure uh you have to fit it into a larger narrative and that's a perfect way to do it so alex is uh i think he's trying to pretend that he didn't actually lose these cases which is fun interesting look at this headline out of the associated press alex jones loses lawsuit over sandy hook hoax conspiracy now what really happened this came out again back in october the last default in

now it's november default there but before i show you this what's happening in connecticut father of sandy hook victim wins defamation lawsuit against alex jones that's from 2019 now did i lose the suit it says a father of victim of the sandy hook elementary massacre has won defamation lawsuit against the authors of a book that claimed the shooting never happened and it goes on to say i've lost the suit i'm not in the book i didn't lose that suit didn't happen we contacted ap they said sue us we're not changing it that's the level here if anyone wants to understand what's going on against info wars that we deal with so that market that's a market watch headline it wasn't the associated press nobody talked about this a hundred times exhaustively

but if you're listening to this let me see if this is the tone you're getting from this there are headlines that i lost these cases now right in the present day right but also they've lied about me losing cases in the past so maybe this is meant to sort of imply that they're lying now right did i lose the cases they've lied about the cases before that feels like the only interpretation that you could have to him bringing up this other headline yeah to discuss the current headline i mean i guess the other thing that he's trying to say is that it's like a propaganda thing to make you feel like he's a loser or something i have no idea what he's saying other than maybe i won yeah that's that's the sense i get which makes it so confusing when he immediately says this i didn't

lose that suit didn't happen we contacted ap they said sues we're not changing it that's the level here if anyone wants to understand what's going on against info wars that we deal with now this didn't happen two and a half years ago the thing in texas and the thing in connecticut today did happen wait what then why what then why'd you bring it up i don't understand what the point is here now sometimes they lied maybe i didn't lose these cases but these was i definitely this time they did not lie i lost these fucking cases gotta be honest they're straight up i lost these i'm a big i'm a big loser on this one i'm gonna take a big out put it on the forehead i i just was so confused by like what even are you trying to get at here i

i can usually suss out like what the point is it it's almost like a nervous tick like he just has to bring up some what about is um yeah and that was the only thing that came to mind or something that is just meant to be a roadblock yeah if you think you're red herring yeah so in this next clip alex discusses that uh default judgments like the ones he's uh been uh subject to are rare true alex shows guilty by default in all sandy hook defamation suits wow by default that's a new thing huh no that's only if somebody doesn't show up to the court or depositions or any of it do you have those they're very rare but they're not rare now i was reading the news just like for you especially in california democrats more and more just do that the judges

just do that if they want to get you politically they just they don't care what you do they just say you haven't given them everything they ask for things that don't exist like give us a sandy hook marketing we don't have that yeah we know you you do yeah i i i need a source on this uh democrats in california are defaulting democrats california are just defaulting people because they try and railroad you damn it's political they're just defaulting so alex is correct that default judgments are uncommon but that's just you know because most people accept their responsibility to take part in legal proceedings we're in a functioning society typically you know like if you are innocent you'll want to be able to have your day in court to prove your innocence absolutely

see your accuser etc sure if you're guilty i guess you probably don't want to go to court but you have a responsibility to it's either go to court or run sure or or i guess just drag your feet i mean i guess dragging your feet was an option for murder cases all along yeah but even though this is rare it's not like default judgments never happen and alex should be super aware of this since his buddy john mackafee had a default judgment against him in the civil case regarding his neighbor in belize who was murdered forcing a default judgment is one of the preferred strategies of high-profile people who don't want to have to engage with the legal system in civil cases like r kelly and cuba gooding jr did it's not hard to think that alex is refusing to cooperate with

the discovery process because he has something he really doesn't want to be public like the exact nature of his finances or sources of funding there's probably a good chance he knew he was going to lose these cases if they ever went to trial so if you're going to lose anyway why not protect your business secrets and simultaneously create a situation where you can claim you weren't actually found guilty this is a good pr strategy but it probably won't matter and it doesn't affect the real world right he's gonna be on the hook for so much money and it's already too late generally for him to do all that much about it yeah he might be able to get some kind of appeals going but that's not gonna go anywhere doubtful you already you already spent the last uh four years dragging

this out so much so that people went through an entire fucking president to get you i'm really interested to see what happens throughout this case but like i think pretty much all of his legal avenues are exhausted and like we talked with mark like there's the possibility that he could like want to challenge the validity of default judgment sure but i don't think that would work i think it's a waste of time and honestly like i don't know like who would be in favor of that i mean from what i understand appellate judges are somehow even more uh unconcerned with human life than most other judges so like them getting two two judges in two different states having to send them cases that they default judged upon an appeals court is

going to be like we got we got to take this one up i need to wait another three years for for me to handle this shit yeah it seems incredibly unlikely yeah the process is going to be uh fun to watch or at least interesting so alex says something really gross now we hardly ever even talked about sanny hook but you know what i'm going to be talking about it now because it's dealing with the system trying to kill the first amendment you know they tried to use sanny hook to get the second amendment and now they're trying to use it to get the first amendment and i don't really know what happened there there were a lot of anomalies a lot of issues but i don't know school shootings do actually happen i just know they're not my fault

you don't know what really happens when you think about sanny hook you think about the name alex jones ladies and gentlemen and that's just branding and brainwashing and propaganda that's such a disgusting expression of alex's out of control narcissism like how dare he be so self-centered that he thinks that when you hear the word sandy hook the first thing you think of is him i study for alex for a living and he's not even the first thing i think of when i think of sandy hook he's just an absolute monster who can't experience anything in life unless it revolves around himself and it honestly kind of makes me sad because ultimately what you end up realizing is that there's a fair amount of people in the world who base their political beliefs on what they

think is researched information but it's really just the product of alex's moody narcissistic outbursts yeah and that's really a bummer yeah i mean that millions of people have allowed their reality to be shaped by a narcissistic out of control manchild is probably bad yeah but have you considered what would it be like if uh everybody was rational and reasonable i mean obviously if everybody was rational we would be murdering each other in the streets she would be a lot more boring i think if we everybody was rational that's definitely true uh but hey this sucks yeah because you know what you think of when you think of sandy hook the family is grieving and the complete tragedy of the event they don't think about alex jones and him having the gall

to say i don't really know what happened there at this point in time a lot of people have told you very specifically what happened there oh yeah and what you got very wrong oh yeah this is yeah a lot of bullshit wow so alex has a prediction about the uh next phase of his trials now that he's lost all of them by default judgment sure um and uh he can make this prediction come true on his own now a jury will decide how guilty you are and folks they're gonna double default you understand that they're gonna double default i told the lawyers this year's ago they're gonna double default and not even let me be at the trial to decide how guilty i am this is a joke it's it's beyond a kangaroo trial it's beyond a show trial it's all a ridiculous fraud and

boy are they gonna be freaked out to learn i've spent more money fighting this than i'll probably ever make after this i don't even care about the money so they can't get blood out of a stone and they're not gonna shut my show down so good luck the CEO of Pfizer just came out and said that people talking bad about the vaccines are working for quote dark forces why do you do what's this commercial why is this commercial sound like you're drunk yes the CEO Pfizer sorry sorry about this sound on this commercial i just woke up what is going on it's like you can do two takes it's three in the morning he's recording on a fucking cell phone what is happening i mean i also i know for a fact that you have a standing invitation to that court robe yeah and that that is a creep voice

and i don't just want to talk more about that commercial oh i can't i can't if i think about it too much i think about him he's in my ears dan i'm wearing headphones yeah they want to sell your x2 oh snow so alex will probably end up getting double defaulted in this case but again it's gonna be his fault if he does the next phase of the trial is about determining what is a fitting financial penalty and if alex doesn't cooperate with discovery on this part but like by refusing to turn over the appropriate financial documents he could fuck around and get another default judgment he won't if he cooperates though oh yeah he has every ability to has every opportunity to again no one can shut down alex's show except himself and he can talk big all he wants but i

have absolutely zero doubt that he would quit if he didn't have the flashy studio the weird pill line that he runs himself the ability to travel wherever he wants and buy things like tanks the ability to pay a staff to gather headlines for him and work out all the technical aspects of the show he would quit in a second if he didn't have those things he would be losing essentially all of the things that allow him to pretend to be a legitimate show and sets him apart from any dumb asshole on youtube who makes videos about how vaccines are evil he'd be the washed up guy who had his time and he didn't get anything done the hungry young buck conspiracy theorists would probably resent him trying to take up space in their world siphoning off attention and possible donations that could

be going to them yep personally i hope he does continue to do the show even if he goes broke just because you know someone who watches this show i think would be a fascinating narrative arc i don't think it's gonna happen though i just don't think alex has the humility to go back to being a diy guy no absolutely not and imagine him trying to do it by himself get the fuck out of here it makes me think of steve pochanic and how his wife has to turn on the record right totally she has to handle the computer for him if i was if i was rex and i was looking at the looking at the tea leaves i'd be like i gotta get out of here otherwise i am going to be working on info wars 2.0 with my fucking dad for the rest of my life dad i need my inheritance now now and i'm

gonna flee the country prior to the judgments being handed out yeah yeah i i i think it's i do agree i mean like no one can stop his show except for himself it's just a matter of you know what you're willing to accept sure standard of living you're willing to accept doing things for no money are you willing to accept that right are you willing to not be able to grandstand the way that you you do and i i don't think he is i just i think he's and you have to figure you know if he loses that status goes right back down to to bottom tier it's going to be open season on cannibalizing him oh like you're gonna get points so easy for shitting all over alex in that realm and we already see it now like when he shows up for these interviews on like rogan or with

patrick bet david or the uh uh logan paul like he just gets wasted and he's just like a dumbass and like eventually that'll wear out if he wasn't like had this show that looks super professional yeah it'll just be this sad old man who's uh drunk on a youtube show yeah fun fun yep so uh people keep asking alex like how you doing how you doing man not well there's trouble super bad there's trouble so how you doing real bad alex is like don't worry about me man so people ask how am i doing when i get demonized and i get lied about and i get uh put through kangaroo courts and i'm like well how do you think the children are sure contra being forced to wear a mask over their faces with teachers take them taping them to their heads and screaming at them and telling them that they're

bad because they're white won't you think of the white children nobody ever thinks of the white children specifically and only yes i like that i think that's fun like people ask me how i'm doing with these lawsuits and i say don't worry about me worry about the white kids yeah that one that one really is saying the quiet part awful loud yeah a little bit wildly loud yep also don't ask alex how he's doing if you want to know how alex is doing ask alex whether or not the world is going to end well actually that's really interesting because this next clip he's talking about how the good times are over hey alex is the world gonna end no then you're in a good mood are over the roaring 20th century going in the 21st century is abruptly hitting a brick wall or like a record

skipping off the surface and so brace yourselves like when you're in a really bad car wreck until i got blown off a side of a highway in bank meant by a tornado what my dad was in the car what are you doing and we would have been killed if we hadn't hit the oak trees in the back of the suburban they crushed half the suburban in but we shot off spun around backwards down a 50 foot embankment plunging into trees and uh got away with just concussions but i remember saying brace for impact and we hit so hard it broke both our chairs back and that 10 seconds while we're flying over the embankment down the hill into the woods took about 10 seconds was like 20 years it felt like forever in there bracing for impact that's a wild tornado story i don't believe that was he i don't think

i've ever heard it before and i've listened to a lot of his show seems like that one would be a so the part of me wants to say that's probably bullshit but it's actually possible that happened okay like two tornadoes are super deadly but there have been documented cases of people being inside cars that are actually picked up by tornadoes and they survive but i don't think it's a super common thing although there are plenty of tornadoes in texas it's it's conceivable i don't believe it but i'm open to the possibility of it being true it's it's that's that's where i'm at it's closer to i'll i think you probably it happened i mean come on it's been how long it's been more than five years it's been more than five years and i have not heard this totally awesome

story about surviving a fucking tornado before it are you shitting me i used to watch a lot of degrassi uh the canadian teen show oh i'm aware and one of the things that me i'll never forgive them for drake me and my buddy nicky gifts one of the things that we were taken aback by is how like yeah a lot of the stuff in these episodes are things that happen to you know people in school sure like there are difficulties you have with adolescents and growing up course but this cast of kids everything happens to them and that's not likely it's a little it's a little outside of the norm yeah and i always was like wow these kids are lucky and unlucky it's just nuts and i feel the same way about alex like yeah like it's possible that you're in a car and you survive

a tornado throwing you into a tree sure but add that to all the other fucking nonsense things that have happened in your life does everything happen to him i mean it does seem like he's living in a never-ending uh the days of our lives episode where everybody has an evil twin and shits going crazy and no no no it's passions because there's witches involved that's true there you're right yeah you're right i fucked up also like you brought up before the clip you notice that we're about to hit a brick wall just after alex has a really bad piece of personal news it's almost like he's about to hit a brick wall in the form of really heavy monetary penalties so he's projecting that feeling of imminent trouble onto the audience he's basically just lashing out at them and trying

to make them feel the same bad things he's feeling yeah and it's childish yep uh nonsense it's great so he talks a bit about the case like just the same sort of stuff like i'm being set up sure sure i didn't really lose that kind of stuff at the beginning of the episode and i was like just get to some meat right just give me something so he's got a story here uh about a new a new Pfizer vaccine formula we live in a country run by the united nations and absolutely ruthless private families and i have even nbc news and others reporting that okay it's true there is a heart attack drug being added to the children's vaccine but it's not for heart problems it's as a base to the shot and you go research it has nothing to do with being a base it's not saline water

oh my god no so they just slip that in that oh we're going to start adding a heart attack drug to the vaccine and then they just come out and say oh listen to the conspiracy theorist they're right about us adding the heart attack drug but it has nothing to do with heart attacks we just don't put saline in the shots anymore this is a bunch of bullshit yep so the drug in question here is tromethamine and it's being put into the Pfizer vaccines that's definitely true but it's not related to heart attacks and the explanation of replacing it replacing saline it's a little more complicated than alex is making it seem for one thing tromethamine has been an ingredient in the moderna vaccine all along and the reason is really straightforward tromethamine is a very

effective preservative and it helps increase uh drug shelf life this is actually a really big deal because one of the arguments that Pfizer has made about being unable to send their vaccine to many parts of the developing world is that it has as Reuters put it a quote strict storage requirement at ultra low temperatures which this will help address tromethamine is used as a stabilizing ingredient in many vaccines and even a homologue a diabetes medication Reuters notes that it's also used as a stabilizer in many fragrances and cosmetic products oh fun as for the part about replacing saline it's not that it's replacing that saline solution the way is alex that alex is sort of implying that saline is just salt and water and you know it can help use to clean wounds or

reduce dehydration the saline that's being replaced by the tromethamine is phosphate buffered saline which is a very different thing uh that is a very different effect from the standard saline solutions phosphate buffered saline has disodium hydrogen phosphate added to it and this has the effect of helping stabilize the pH level of a of a solution that it's added to however for the needs of this vaccine tromethamine can do what pbs can do and then some so it makes more sense to switch that up yeah the thing about this being a heart attack drug is also kind of dubious the tromethamine itself tromethamine isn't a drug really that you'd give to someone to effectively reduce their risk of having a heart attack the primary connection between this drug and cardiac

issues is that tromethamine is used to treat metabolic acidosis which is a common side effect that someone may experience if they're having cardiopulmonary bypass surgery it's not that tromethamine addresses the heart attack it's used to deal with a common side effect of the bypass surgery itself in the interest of total fairness it is true that a small amount of heart attacks are thought to possibly be due to metabolic acidosis but the causal link is a little bit iffy and there's an important qualifier tromethamine doesn't really help with heart attacks per se it just helps with metabolic acidosis which is a condition where a person's body is too acidic or where the kidneys can't filter the acids in the body quickly enough to keep the acid base

level in check typically this connection between metabolic acidosis and a person having a heart attack is seen in the elderly who are experiencing difficulty with other organs like the kidney and generally this the situation is that someone has late stage chronic kidney disease right so it's not really relevant to the the story that alex is trying to tell sure sure sure yeah also let's not forget that this doesn't even work as a conspiracy theory for alex the point of the globalist plans with the vaccine is supposed to be to kill everyone off so what sense does it make for them to create a vaccine that gives people heart attacks and then change the formula to include something that would stop people from having heart attacks did they like change their mind

what the fuck are we doing um so it's gonna kill everybody between anywhere from two weeks to five years about two weeks to a hundred years yes but everyone will die yeah and it will be the vaccine it will be the vaccine and so now the globalist plan after having already succeeded as alex has said uh i mean right everybody who's already taken the vaccine is going to die soon if you believe him then yes they have effectively put heart attack bombs in everybody okay so then why what what i mean it so that you don't need a new formula nope but it does address some of the issues of uh stability of the the vaccine itself oh so that so it's a better murder vaccine i guess i guess that might be the way that that's what you say

right they get they they made it more weaponized i guess you stumbled on to possibly a way that you could twist this for our care conspiracy i guess they're trying to make it more shelf stable so it can be given to more parts of the world to give heart attacks to more people but alex is not saying alex is not saying that we have stumbled once again upon a better conspiracy theory oh well damn it so alex is mad about uh an nbc or ms nbc anchor named stefanie rule oh because she made some comments about how americans can pay for inflation affected products there's a little bit tone deaf but alex is is a little bit off base here too let's play a clip of nbc anchor stefanie rule hey guys look up how much she gets paid hell i'll do it let's look up how

much she's paid uh what's the salary of nbc anchor stefanie r u h l e i was asking that yes i don't know where we got an answer on that let me just do it right now what's her salary at nbc news because she's i bet paid a couple million dollars a year more she's one of the main anchors hell she maybe paid five million a year ten million a year some of those people are and she's sitting there telling you that you're getting 40 000 a year as a single mother you just need to learn that you've had it too well so stefanie rule absolutely doesn't make millions of a year at nbc although i'm sure she does fine if alex wants to talk about how she's really rich he should but it's not so much about her salary from nbc it should be a conversation of her activity in the

world of hedge funds which i'm pretty sure brought in way more money than anything that she's done on nbc uh so she worked at hedge funds and run some hedge funds she ran some hedge funds yeah and now she's on tv yeah she's on msnbc as she told she told everybody just pay for stuff yeah she did say that average americans can afford to handle inflation and while she's probably right about most of the people in her circle that came off as a painfully unaware statement she's gotten a lot of backlash and rightfully so i'm not sure that uh her making dumb comments on nbc is really the heart-hating news that alex likes to imagine he covers but i don't know i'd probably just leave this alone with him and deal with the more pressing issue like uh everyone's dying yeah i mean you know

in my book fuck her of course sure uh but also like on our list of shit to deal with she's way low down it doesn't really rank unless you're just trying to engage with the attention economy if you're just bored for the day that you can engage and get some points off of that and then it's all forgotten the next day so who fucking cares yeah i mean i think i think that there is a conversation to be had about like people in the uh like especially on the 24 hour news networks people say stupid shit on there all the time yeah and maybe maybe doing a better job and in terms of some of that yeah totally but i don't think that you get any closer to achieving that by talking about the individual instances and making a big deal out of the individual times people say stupid

shit yeah i don't know that might be i might be wrong in that but it seems mighty trivial for something that alex uh the compared to what he likes to think he does i mean the idea of uh you know like tv news requires a top down rewrite all all up front like page one get get fucking rid of it and then start over so what one of them does i really don't care about you know yeah i hate i hate to be i mean we can never really go back i don't think but i don't think that 24 hour news channels are really appropriate no they're bad um but i don't know what you do anyway alex is convinced that this uh stefanie rule makes millions of course she's paid five million the average salary at msnbc is 152 000 a year but she estimated i have a net worth of five million

and that she's paid two million a year so i guessed it correctly i said probably one or two million a year okay so there you go so according to pay scale the average salary for news anchors and mbc is 69 317 with the high range being 110 000 no one has presented a shred of evidence to prove that she makes 18 times the high end of the salary range but that's the salary that's listed for her on one of those very sketchy celebrity net worth type sites sure the two million is the figure that you'll get from legit is the name of the website it's run out of Nigeria most likely alex chose this one because all the other sites that you can find they cite significantly lower salaries for her and it just doesn't work for the point that he's trying to make

yeah a lot of them have figures like 200 000 a year alex is just talking shit about this two million a year nonsense and i think part of the reason that he thinks that this is even within the realm of possibility might be that he makes millions a year there you go so he assumes everyone else does too they must if they're i'm on media and i make millions of dollars a year yeah so assumably that's just a guess on my part but it's funny to think that he's doing the story about how out of touch Stephanie rule is and he might be just exposing how out of touch he gets yeah it's uh as per usual so anyway uh wapo the washington post uh-huh they're they're out of line they're out of line man i agree here's another one washington post and msnbc both call for banning

republicans just you're not allowed to be a republican or setting up rules that will prohibit media outlets referring to anyone who is a republican as normal you must have you must have a new politically correct preface like calling me a conspiracy terrorist if i'm not mistaken and i'm not we're just months removed from alex going on an extended campaign pushing for the outlawing of the democratic party correct even if the washington post said the things he's saying it's kind of childish for him to have this response to it he's just like they just doing what i did yeah they didn't do that i'm mad so you're just mad about jennifer rubin going on an msnbc show and saying that there should be rules where news outlets shouldn't be able to call republicans

normal anymore it's not normal politics or whatever sure sure this is a far cry from alex literally advocating for the outlawing of the democratic party on multiple occasions and again such a trivial story to be spending time on at times it feels like his show is just a grouchy old man who gets mad at cable news and he wants to yell about it yeah that does sound about right it's just he's got he's got a mickey rooney vibe to him now he's just sitting on his reclining chair with a glass of scotch sitting there he's like i'm mad at the ladies on tv news here's what's bothering me today yeah jennifer rubin said something i don't like i i mean but if if one day we just woke up and you were about to listen to the show and all of a sudden you just heard

lino lino lino lino and alex came out and was like i hate book bags on the train it'd be the best day of my life i i don't know if i would enjoy that i think i would lose interest in it pretty quick that's fair so alex has buddies in the real media does he yeah okay and they they've been getting in contact with him today interesting you know i have a lot of people i know a lot of great people a lot of good people uh texting me right now one of them is a very well-known podcast producer in the break i was asking hey we know the inside baseball on this you should respond to the big national news story that they're pumping out on every channel every newspaper from japan to germany to the united states you know tens of thousands of articles

are being posted alex jones found guilty by judge that's a judge totally abusing their discretion absolutely engaging in what i would say is fraud so yeah rogan wants a statement i guess yeah i suppose maybe tim pool because alex hasn't tim tim pool is in town we know the we know the truth imagine inside baseball imagine how sad would that be quite ouch um so yeah alex is you know he's getting jammed up judge committed fraud now when we talk to mark bankston one of the things that we discussed was the bank records yes and the way alex saw fit to have an account and clean him up they needed to be they needed to be a little bunched up a little bit in the right areas you know so here's alex talking about that okay they defaulted us mainly for saying that the accounting firm

that's a well-known respected accounting firm gave them they demanded our financial records which you wouldn't think you'd get in a in a in a civil defamation case it shouldn't be about what i said or did and and so i said no just give it to them they're planning to default us and i want to make them do it all the way and then they just said this isn't your real finances we said well you can't prove a negative i mean that it is and they said well it's not a quick book's file it's it's a it's a spreadsheet and and i talk like four accounts different accounting firms about this and they said this is fraud and we talked about what i do for this and yeah you can't give somebody a uh a quick book account because a quick book account's a database it goes back to the beginning of our

quick books over 20 years ago they said from this date to that date so what you do is you take it out and put it into a spreadsheet that's what i'm defaulted for is a spreadsheet scan of every transaction at this company and you think that's outrageous that you would even let them do that folks they were always going to default us and they're always going to do it at the appeals court level too i've known that i'm just going to illustrate the whole thing for everybody and then that gives us the time uh to you know to move forward i'm fighting the globalist i mean it's it's this is not my battle this is not my war this is kind of like a rabid chihuahua that has rabies is biting me in the leg and i've got a pack of wolves tearing my children apart that's the

allegory i've got the wolves not the chihuahua chewing on my leg i get rabies shots later so you have to triage things like this it's that's a little bit of i don't it's confusing i guess i understand the point of his metaphor somebody needs to call quick books because i mean obviously they had this massive oversight where you can't like choose what dates you want to print out the files from yeah you know like there's no way you can own when you go into the quick book software you can only download all of your finances or none yeah old man quick books is really specific about this i don't like half stepping no no no no no don't give me this what file from date to date i'm quick books and that's not how it's happening i insist that i my software is only used for the

entire history of a company or nothing we're we're quick bucks and it's going to take a while to download your files there's a part of me that legitimately thinks like maybe alex doesn't use quick books or maybe he doesn't like maybe the issue is that like his finances are on sheets of paper i mean yeah or something like maybe maybe that's why he can't produce it if you walked into his office and there was just a big like gallon drum of receipts you'd be like well i mean i that makes sense yeah i mean his dad was the hr representative right who knows like maybe his nephew is the accountant everyone gets paid in bullion yeah yeah who fucking knows yeah it's it's strange also the the the attempt to be like i'm not even mad about this

it's real funny it's so great we've hit a massive roadblock and everybody's gonna die i'm not upset all right and you know what i never actually even really cared about these lawsuits it's not a big deal this is essentially the same thing that happened with the hamdi ulakaya the chibani lawsuits or how he was like i will defend this die i will die or be proven right hey look i want to give an apology it's a blustery nonsense uh until there's a decision and then once he loses or is going to lose it's a turning tail and be like i didn't really care about that at all no big deal wasn't important nah come on um but also the country is gone sure a lot of people are asking me to respond to this you know i i learned about this 20 months before i went on air

and quite frankly i've got all this incredible news that needs to be covered and i just i really think that what's happening to me and to info wars i mean i know it's a symptom of the disease of globalism and and and the disease of corruption and decadence in this country and in the world in general and and and really of of the end of the country as we know it now it can be rebooted hopefully but the country for all its purposes is gone this is modern warfare we're under and the country itself is being bankrupted and dissolved sure and if if if i spend my time tactically talking to hbo or talking to the wall street journal or running around trying to defend myself from the fake things they've launched against me we're going to lose the whole country on the

planet so the implication of what alex is saying is that if he doesn't stay focused on the work that he's doing the very specific work that he's doing correct all hope for the planet is lost yes this is such yeah narcissistic garbage no no dan this is a rational clear-eyed understanding of the current circumstances if you put all of the math together get the order of operations worked out right it all cancels out until you get one man look i mean the world will disappear and everything will fall apart if alex doesn't interview with vice i mean meanwhile he'll go get drunk on rogan's podcast we're at the place where if he closes his eyes i imagine he thinks everyone's dead like every time he opens it not no object permanence whatsoever it's possible just

complete everything is predicated predicated upon whether or not i see it the end yeah i i like i like that though in terms of like it's a it's such an illustration of narcissism oh i mean it's if i stop for a second to address the the fact that i just lost these cases if i give a comment to a media outlet about this do we we will lose the world all right yeah all right bro yeah i mean it's it's fun that like default judgments you know as we talked about with mark the first time you know they were like this is exceedingly rare and they only use they only really teach these in schools you know now we've got alex as an example to teach in law school why not remember that in psychiatry school they're going to use alex as a narcissism example as well he's going to be taught

in a lot of different schools sure very exciting yeah he might be taught in a rambling school too if there ever is such a thing because he starts talking about barry why start that yeah i think so because here he does a professional ramble about how we have to stay in the quiet place of the most so now they're trying to outlaw their political opposition like you wanted to you say oh well they'll never get away with that really really they are getting away with all of it but separately let me tell you how you can fight back against this because we're very close to winning and and the globalist cm full wars is the tip of the spear and rightfully so and i'm very proud to be the tip of the spear and i'm very honored to be in this position because i want to be a champion for

liberty i want to be a champion for freedom i asked to get in the arena and i've asked for this fight and i expect a lot more to happen but i also in the know in the end these evil doers will be punished and will be defeated across the board i know they're going to stage false flags and and try to blame me for them and others they already have like january 6th and i understand that somebody's got to not be a coward to stand up to these people so i'm doing it all i ask is is that you pray for us and you spread the word about the broadcast and you financially support us so we can go into this fight strong and give it our 110 percent so please pray for him for us please pray for me please pray for my family and please pray that i be given focus and clarity and and a calm steady

heart and in mind and hand and then i'd be kept in the high place what the quiet place that king david talked about of the most high that king david talked about in psalms the quiet still place of the most high you're doing great because that is the place we need to be calm focused understanding and just moving forward against this evil separately today is the last day to get straw and free shipping and double patriot points separately completely separate unrelated entirely amazing that shift is just professional wow i would ask that you pray that god keep me in the place of the most high also free shipping is it going i mean god just that you know how much i hate commerce and religion pushed together and the way that he

combines the two of them so good you you like a prosperity gospel teacher well it's so transparent to like you you and i and many other people the the the strategy that's being employed here but at the same time like he's consistently done it for years sure so it must be effective like well i mean must be some uh success how many different prosperity gospels own more than one jet it's a very successful way to do things yeah i guess so people like to hear lies especially if god is telling them yeah oh boy so alex went to san antonio uh recently and he got himself an interview with mike flinn general mike flinn wow tough to get oh yeah real he's real busy um yeah he's on the phone with nbc all the time so at this point um he hasn't aired that interview and even like as

we're talking right now i don't believe he's put out any of it but he has some thoughts about this or general flinn interesting all right let me just say this right now i got an interview with general flinn saturday down in san antonio and he was speaking to a crowd of five thousand people at a big event being held at cornerstone church patrick hagi church and i'm i mean i really respected and liked the general a long time ago but i didn't know him and i've gotten to know in the last few years and i've gotten a chance to see him as he's basically gotten accustomed to being a civilian leader and i think he's a great guy and the type of person that could be george washington 2.0 and i quite frankly think he's uh better suited than somebody like trump because he

understands that's a globalist new world order operation quit just quit just quit you want to do this again alex really yeah also didn't we hate flinn for a while i don't know i don't think so i think flinn's a huge q guy new but alex pretends he's not oh and so does and so does flinn that's fair that is fair yeah i think mike flinn's one of them that alex has been pretty on board with for the most part i think possibly when there was a chance that it looked like he was flipping on trump oh that might be what i'm remembering i think there might have been a little stretch where alex was uh at least not into him but he likes flinn okay fine now i think i actually agree with alex that flinn could be another george washington but from my perspective it's the dark version of our

first president flinn made some comments that we're going to get into later when he was speaking at the cornerstone church in san antonio over uh just before this but it's also important to note that this was part uh it wasn't just like a speech at a church it was part of the fairly qanon leaning reawaken america tour other speakers included michael indell roger stone the q patriot street fighter former overstock ceo patrick burn and of course stella immanuel the ivermectin doctor who believes that we're living in revelation and also has a promo code on her website so alex's listeners can get five percent off their drug purchases it's very nice of her to do these creeps and weirdos were advertised speakers but strangely missing from that advertisement was alex though

he did get a speaking slot at the event no shit no shit god damn it so either he was a surprise guest or they thought like we can't put him on the poster right it's too right too much heat see that's that i i i think that's unjust i do i genuinely am mad about that that they are ostracizing alex compared to those murderers of idiots like what are we talking about but that's only based on the assumption that alex didn't just show up and then they're like i will give you a short time totally letting the q patriot street fighter talk totally totally you can have five i'm sure he could have five if he wanted yeah so maybe it wasn't an omission from the poster based on like we don't want to show you here uh it might just be that he was an unplanned possible

speech um but yeah the clip i saw of his speech was mostly what you'd expect it's just meaningless platitudes about how his enemies work for the literal devil sure how this is the most important time in human history never been more important now as for general flin his speech was a little more interesting there were many news stories covering how he said quote if we're gonna have one nation under god which we must we have to have one religion one nation under god and one religion under god as the founders wrote in the constitution dan yeah it's so fucked up i don't really even know how to engage with it like they're they these are the people gathering who yell about the constitution all the time and they're hero worshiping a lunatic ex general who's advocating

something in direct opposition to the first amendment what i think we should do is our constitutional duty which of course is to overthrow the united states government and turn this into theocracy just like the founders intended when they wrote that constitution that specifically outlawed that yeah some of his other comments were also a little bit fucked up or at least like what are you talking about um and uh he also uh in this net uh i only clips of it but here's a passage where he implies that america was the last hope for the world there's a time and you have to believe this that almighty god is like involved in this country because this is it this is it this is the last place on earth this is this is the shining hill uh city on the hill

this is the city on the hill the city on the hill the city on the hill was mentioned in matthew okay it was mentioned in matthew and then this guy by the name of winthrop mentioned it again in 1630 in 1630 okay before the country was formed just because a several hundred years after winthrop said that reagan said it yeah so now flin is assuming that was actually yeah he goes on to mention that reagan said it and it's sort of part of the connection right right right but reagan was just right okay anyway my point is that based on his stated beliefs and the way the q and on and the other right wing communities respond to him flinn does have the potential to be there george washington the first president of the fundamentalist christian nationalist dictatorship they so

desperately want to be yeah that's wild yep i i really out for that i really am blown away that these people with the constitution in their fucking pockets are looking up at general flinn say obvious bullshit about nothing and thinking i want to overthrow democracy for that that's what i want yeah wow so the globalists control pretty much everything sure based because if you just define the globalists as anybody you don't like yeah and you can say that they have both the houses of congress they've got it all they've got the presidency but you know what they don't have they don't have the minds of the people the globalists have the executive branch they have the congress they have most the courts and they have most the cities but they don't have the people

that live in those cities they've maintained their control through election fraud and they know that victory florida school district ends mass mandate after eight-year-old girl told them they should be in prison palm beach county school district has ended a mass mandate just days after a second grade girl told school board officials they should all rot in jail for forcing children to wear face coverings against their will this is a fun story and i can see how alex would want to present the idea that this second grade or shame to school board and that's the impetus to stop a mask mandate in his palm county palm beach county schools but that's just not true and the children will lead you down the state of florida's department of health had

released an order that prohibited schools from having mask mandates and less parents could opt out of them this school district however decided to go against that order the second grader alex is talking about is the daughter of a woman named bailey lechels and for about two months she'd been suspended for refusing to wear a mask at school ultimately it wasn't her activism or the mom having her eight-year-old daughter go on fox news shows that ended the school district's mass mask mandate the decision was based on a court ruling that was made that determined that the school district was in violation of the department of health's order and the fact that children could now be vaccinated and that local covid rates had fallen dramatically since that decision

was made to not let parents opt out of children wearing masks it's fun to imagine that a second grader yelled at a school board and they were so taken aback by the truth she was spitting at them that they cowered and stopped requiring masks but that's just not true i'm going to throw this out here uh-huh and this might sound crazy to you it might so if a news network is so rabid for any content that reinforces their bullshit that they will grab up anyone anywhere who has fulfilled any part of their narrative and put them on tv is it possible dan that might be an incentive for people who want to get on tv it might be um or run for congress or run for congress it seems like if you just lie about bullshit and they there's a tv network yeah um i i alex does end up playing

her speech this eight eight-year-old and i don't really believe she wrote it herself oh yeah she might have i don't know but it doesn't strike me as but in these last days i feel the sword of damocles hangs over all of our heads right there's stuff that i'm not sure an eight-year-old fully would be able to process but maybe she can i don't know i don't know this kid um but it's it's a little bit dicey and me saying that i i know that alex would come back with something like what about gretta thunberg sure and i would say that there's a big difference between a teenager and an eight year old a huge difference and i don't know if an eight-year-old really should necessarily be on fox news giving anti-vax stuff ooh ooh i i would i would even say that an eight-year-old uh being

giving a message of like climate control or climate change awareness i'm not sure i'm comfortable with that even because the kid it's their parents making the decision yeah yeah i i would say an eight-year-old saying something like uh i hope that the world is better that's totally great but that's vague very vague that's fine because an eight-year-old would want to keep it vague an eight-year-old saying i hope the world is better is a very inspiring message i'm inspired by it right now an eight-year-old talking about carbon emissions and stuff like that i don't i don't know what it brings to the table there is that yeah and so i don't know i'm i'm just uncomfortable with it in the same way that i was uncomfortable with with that like i don't know 10-year-old it

sounds like you're uncomfortable exploiting children dan and i don't get that i just don't get it now i only really decided to talk about this at all because what alex says next okay and mic down for this because i think alex is going on a protracted uh little bit of a ramble about how he's disappointed in his daughter and i'll just be honest with you my oldest daughter is a wonderful person and she wanted to go to public school a few years ago because her friends went there and i let her go and she's been a good good young lady she's about to get out of high school and she just recently figured out it was all stupid and said she was sick of it because of the mask and all of it she just wants to go back to private school and graduate but i but i let her you know

have it have the way she wanted it and she said i don't want to be like you i love you i respect you but i don't want to confront people and stuff that's that's that's what you do dad and i'm glad you're doing it for us but she said uh you know i just don't want to go to school anymore since they want to make me wear the mask i just want to go to private school somewhere where i don't have to and now that's happening we got her out a few weeks ago now she's going to graduate at a private school that doesn't make you wear a mask but i understand that that that she didn't want to stand up and fight them you know sometimes your children don't do the things you'd want them to do sometimes they don't uh following your footsteps but i know this young lady is doing exactly what i

asked my daughter to do i said you need to go in there you need to get expelled over and over again we're gonna sue them we're gonna stand up she said i don't want to grandstand i said it's not about grandstanding i said it's about not letting them push everybody around that's what our family does is we lead the attack but i said i'm not going to try to make you do it and she didn't do it and i'm not putting my daughter down i i'm telling the stories it's true oh god this is so uncomfortable this is oh god you know i i would like i would really i think the problem with me not having kids uh is that i don't get the thank you from the kids that i don't have that i didn't later on go tell jokes about them or talk about them on this podcast or something

along those lines you're welcome unborn children yeah i i get a sense that there's a little bit of disappointment on alex's part that his daughter would not be his proxy um in this fight that he wants to have so he could get a lot of attention are you are you telling me that you don't want to go to school stand up in front of all of your friends and tell them that your dad alex jones says he thinks that this is all bullshit you don't want to say that why why give me any reason you're telling me that at this very delicate moment you know the sort of maturation process you don't want to alienate yourself from literally everybody around you because you're taking a stand publicly for my bullshit i can't sing i can't think of any reason why

yeah i i i just i i i feel like this is unhealthy and alex shouldn't dad i want to go to college he shouldn't be expressing things that are like if i was his daughter i'd be hurt by that i would be furious that's awful that's an awful thing to do to your child i would have a tough time processing alex talking about this eight-year-old that he admires and being like well that's what i wanted my daughter to do i mean that would be tough that's just so fucking awful that's awful that's awful to do to somebody yeah to because then there's the implicit i mean and there was always your alex's kid obviously but that's a fucking blackmail threat if you don't do this the next time guess what i'm gonna go on my show and keep fucking talking about you well i don't i'm not sure

if it's a blackmail threat but it makes it clear that if you don't do the things that i want you to do there'll be disappointment exactly and it's kind of like there's a similarity in my love is conditional there's a similarity in it like if you're a high school basketball player and you're not very good and like you're you know you go to a game and the opposing team is has a really good player on it right and it's like ah they're great yeah i wish that was my son i love that kid that kid's great that kid has skills if they doing what i keep telling my kid exactly it's fucked up i am taking that kid out for pizza later none for you shitbag that kid gets a slice of pizza big one too i want to get this eight year old on my show but not my daughter anyway alex goes to calls and

he takes a call from a guy that has a dangerous perspective all right let's go ahead take another caller mike in england thank you for calling welcome to the airwaves hi alex thank you for taking my call and um praise god one thing you've got you talk a lot about x2 but you haven't really told the best truth about it um do you know a guy named david bronstein dr david bronstein yeah he built his clinic on using iodine and hydrogen peroxide and when you did talk about using nebulizer and nebulized peroxide it didn't really get across how effective it is my wife and i were exceedingly sick um and we use x2 two drops of x2 and you have to really cut it down on the peroxide recommend um the food safe the food um food grade peroxide 12 and cut it down like

exceedingly light and every time we use it it it just cleans the lungs it cleans the sinuses because that's where the the majority of the infection is going to transfer into us is through the sinuses and then down the throat and then into the lungs and it um um well people just need to know i think if you interview dr david bronstein um it'd be pretty enlightening because he his clinic was basically built on that well i mean i'm fully aware that most people are deficient in iodine and most iodine is bound to another substance so it's not really absorbable like it should be in the body that's why we sell atomic iodine good save good save just talk about the iodine don't talk about how this guy is basically telling you to inhale

bleach listen listen you you want to drink a little bit of acid you don't want to drink a lot so one thing it's super important to point out about what this caller is talking about is that food grade hydrogen peroxide is not food that is a misnomer and it's just called food grade because it needs the standards to clean things in places where food is packaged and handled right it can also be used in things like bleaching flour see that is also i guess as close as we get to food right and cleaning out the lungs for some context the type of hydrogen peroxide most people who would be getting from the store is three percent hydrogen peroxide and food grade is 35 percent there are some medicinal uses that make some sense but pretty much all of them are strictly

topical applications like softening corns or disinfecting small cuts but even in these cases it's got to be super diluted which is why the stuff you buy at the store is three percent i hate that i have to say this but just because this guy is saying you should nebulize and inhale this bleach cocktail instead of drink it that doesn't make it any more safe this definitely can still be toxic particularly if you mess up your measurements when you're diluting i would say that alex has no idea who david bronstein is and he was just bluffing when the caller asked but in this case he might actually know who that dude is since one of alex's anti-vax compatriots dr mercola has promoted him in the past yeah so it's possible that alex does know

but man fucked up fucked up call i i am why don't you why don't you inhale a bunch of hydrogen peroxide i'm i'm consistently blown away because the one truth about humanity that has stayed consistent through our entire history is when people feel bad a lot of them are going to try and solve it with poison that's a very weird thing that has stayed with us from the very fucking beginning yeah yeah but you but it's kind of like this like cavemen are eating poison ivy because they got a tummy gate a tummy ache or something you know it's like that kind of level of shit this stuff is toxic uh on some level maybe it'll kill the bad stuff you know right no i get that the the idea of two negatives equaling a positive i understand that so i was worried about

this caller but i was even more worried that alex is kind of into it and you know i had a lot of medical doctors on and a lot of folks talking about what they would do how they would help themselves their studies out there showing like you said highly diluted hydrogen peroxide in distilled water through the nasal cavity that alone cleans out the virus where it needs a few days to get started and going colonizing growing crystals in your body it's a nano tech they've released on us really a synthetic virus according to research and so yeah i mean we just talk about all this stuff here on air and when we probably should make a bigger deal about it please don't um please don't i hate that i have to say this but there are not studies that show that inhaling hydrogen

peroxide through your nose clears out covid before it has a chance to hurt you why would anyone do that study that's just dangerous and a really dumb advice what it's saying doctor is like uh let's do a double blind on that one well there are some ideas that hydrogen peroxide could have an effect when it's used for nasal irrigation or mouthwash like that type of thing sure if it's very diluted but it's not ingested right there's no compelling evidence or actual studies that show this conclusion but there's some ideas that it's possible even then doing a nasal rinse with a diluted solution is a bit different than inhaling hydrogen peroxide which there is no evidence is effective and in september actually the asthma and allergy foundation of america

released a statement warning people that regardless of what you've seen on social media do not put hydrogen peroxide in your inhalers my god there's a lot of dangerous to this and no good evidence showing that it helps at all so this is definitely something alex should not be doing it's like we're living in at like you've never seen black books but uh we went and saw dylan mourn once uh you remember the british i mean yeah you you absolutely hated it one of the worst nights of your life famously loved it hated it uh but um in in his uh show black books there was a moment where he's really really sick and he's by himself and he looks over at his oven and he sees the oven cleaner and goes if you can clean an oven you can clean me and i feel like that's so much of how

people think yeah that is uh that's basically i mean i don't have anything to add uh but this color does and it's not good mike anything else yeah one thing i think um it because we have asymmetrical asymmetrical warfare against us and they're they're using our good graces and our politeness against us in terms of basically murdering genocytus um i think we need to see and i think there must be enough data and information out there to start doing some nuremberg two hangings i think if you once you start doing one or two of those that the people that are kind of like well they told me to do it they're going to realize that they are culpable for violating international law national law and and numerous local laws

once they see that hey this is for real and their life is on the line i think that would be a a major turning point i have a couple of concerns the first is are there local laws against genocide yes i don't know i don't know if like county boards cover that kind of maybe there is i don't know um the second thing is uh this is dumb uh for a couple i mean we there's some stuff that we should talk about but for this being on info wars this is dumb because nuremberg trials were like a world court and they should be against that yes they should be against the idea of a nuremberg two because on principle they shouldn't even be in favor of the first one no like it's it's strange it's it's kind of strange to me the this this formulation but i saw you jotting a note

down i'm i was blown away by how we went from because and i think this is how this dude thinks is like i guess it's because we're so polite that they're we're allowing them to hurt us anyways we should hang them like is politeness just not hanging people yep but but it's it's something that alex says a lot and that's that's probably what the caller is wearing back to yeah is responding back to it's the the we've we've been too caught we've let them get to this point we've let the globalists do this by not killing them already you know it was just christians during the 80s were so quiet right you know they just had nothing to say they let everything go to shit you know they frankly handled the aids crisis better than anybody i'm sure it's it's also

interesting that this caller starts with the let's inhale bleach and that ends with the let's hang people let's so they so they know it we're serious first things first let's poison ourselves and then kill everybody we don't like i don't understand what's wrong about that so alex has an interesting uh rebuttal to this guy or he has a take on it that i think is a little bit weak now i don't want anybody to go out and and and shoot you know any of these minions or or or actual globalist because there's a globalist system they've gotten placed that's that satan runs it's spiritual they would use that as a project to expand more control over us our our resistance seems to be financial spiritual uh you know physical

in a nonviolent way civil disobedience things like that but they are going to go ahead and just keep moving at us in a violent way and so at a certain point we do need to take back some governmental systems and then we do need to have nuremberg to and and people that do knowingly roll out the population and sterilization weapons against the public obviously do need to be executed this is a strange take for alex to have because it's it's essentially like let's not kill these people instead let's take over the apparatus of the state and then then kill them and use the state to kill them yes that way it'll be okay that seems counter to some of alex's large beliefs no no no now and this is this has never happened

before uh so there's never been sort of like a opposition party that's kind of a minority that decides to then overthrow the government and through the government justify their actions despite them being incredibly immoral now alex is opposed to federal government overreach right and so i would assume that he's not talking about winning the presidency and then uh using the federal crimes to prosecute these people obviously it's not international law since alex doesn't believe that exists no it has to be a state government right it would have to be like Ron DeSantis decides he's gonna kill fouchy yeah that's not right yeah that's not what he wants we're gonna extradite fouchy to to florida i mean i wouldn't be surprised if at a certain point

he's like let's overthrow the texas governor and install the lieutenant governor as the supreme overlord of the texas fucking uh uh ethno state i'm sure he would have uh like dan patrick more than abit oh yeah um but yeah this is weird i don't i don't i don't find it any more comforting that he's saying don't kill people because the the idea that he has is whoa whoa whoa a bit more fucked up don't target these people we're gonna have to first overthrow the government so we're gonna kill a bunch of henchmen first civilians people not involved people who don't even really care conceivably conceivably he could be talking about like electoral politics sure he could be talking about winning offices sure absolutely but i guess we can't do that because the democrats

have rigged it rigged every election so anyway alex uh he's caught a new story about covid that he's gotta he's got to get into and he does a good job they're on the news saying it's the unvaccinated that get you sick that's the reason your vaccine didn't work that's the reason you have covid symptoms even though the scientists explain it's the covid shot causing the covid and we knew this would happen new covid 19 strain found with altered spike protein oh altered again oh fuck me this is just now breaking today one week after soros and all the rest the gates people said oh there's gonna be new strains we need new vaccines the old ones didn't work oh it's not quite accurate uh this is only news because alex

doesn't understand the topics that he covers right it's not surprising to see the possibility of a covid variant showing changes in its spike protein and that's actually a large part of what made the delta variant more transmissible than the alpha strain i mean it's almost inevitable that it would do that french officials are investigating a new strain that they've detected but it's not entirely clear as of yet how different this strain is going to end up being according to an article in reuters it looks like researchers are interested in how he can possibly hide from PCR tests since quote several of the patients delivered negative PCR tests and returned a positive result only from samples taken from blood or deep in the respiratory system

however even if this does end up being the case quote frances health ministry said late on monday that early analysis did not suggest the mutation was more contagious or more deadly than earlier versions of the virus there's a lot of information yet to be learned about this variant and it very well may turn out that it's not a huge deal and that the vaccines we have are still effective against it so it's it could end up being a more or less an academic issue or it could turn out that its ability to evade PCR tests means that an alternative screening method might be needed in some cases it's also possible that significant enough mutations to the spike protein would make it resistant to the vaccines but it's way too early to jump to that conclusion and that's what alex

is essentially doing and he's saying that it's intentional are you telling me that it's way too early to jump to the conclusion that bill gates financed the creation of a new variant of delt of covid in order to continue killing people and blame the patriots even though the vaccine he's already given us is going to give us a death sentence but he's also added something so you don't get heart attacks right right exactly yeah it's a it's a smorgasbord of vaccine information a little dizzyed by trying to keep some of this straight dizzy is a good word so alex complains you know about this this whole legal issue he's in but also you should really know that he's not taking this very seriously it's not a big deal it's not a big deal the way this gets at me is

having to spend time and energy knowing we didn't do the things they said and and telling lawyers they're going to default us years ago and then when the lawyers are like nobody's ever given them all their bank accounts this judge is crazy i said give them all to them but they're going to default still did it because i wanted to show the world all that and make them sit there and follow their political orders to engage in such outlandish incredible corruption i i knew all this i told them all that i remember again i was sitting there one time when they deposed me in texas and they're like you don't take this very seriously you don't know this is serious kind of like later we're driving home and like hold my dad up and i was laughing i'm like these

people have no idea that i already know all about this stuff that i was born researching this information and and actually hearing family talk about things that they witnessed themselves what what what does that have to do with taking this case seriously i mean i it's almost evidence that he's not taking the case seriously of course he's saying that if his response is yeah yeah hey i just i don't buy it i don't think this is a good avenue no so for a bit alex is promising he's been promising to take more calls sure and he promises he's going to get to it got to okay i promise we're going to call us a couple seconds we'll bring drew an anus in error 15 after uh and we'll do the fourth hour with him and then the war with oan schreuer's coming up oh and poor oan

you know and he's not a victim he's a trooper but he got sued for shandy hook for reading a zero hedge article on air questioning meghan kelly the thing she was saying they just sued him and they never subpoenaed him they never and they just defaulted oan he never gets he never even subpoenaed him to be defaulted which under law you can't even do that they never asked him for anything they just said you're defaulted too you're not even a person as uh is very clear from our conversations with mark bankston uh they they they tried to get oan to come in for a deposition and he did not respond so many times so this is a bullshit piece of nonsense alex is is is spreading here he didn't respond almost as if somebody might have told him it would be a bad idea for him to

don't worry dues got this one exactly yeah dues got the goods oh boy so uh alex said he is going to take calls and he goes to commercial and i thought like hey we're going to get right back we're going to get some calls we do not immediately do that they're masters at the new type of warfare economic cultural spiritual warfare slowly shutting down the economy shutting down the world and then blaming you blaming the general public blaming white people are they and what is it about white people the globalists don't like well the christian ethos and what happened in the west about 500 years ago the renaissance the idea of empowering the average person people having basic rights people having free speech people

having a right to a jury the guttenberg printing press books what are we doing what is this all being destroyed don't you understand that the globalists hate white people because they invented freedom in books listen if it weren't for white people the library of alexandria would never have been uh so one thing that i think is really interesting is the way that like this singular person uh belief that alex has like a guttenberg with his press you know yes the great man view of history yeah as if he came up with that idea out of nowhere it's like the movable type innovations no one has ever thought of it before nobody had ever thought of it before hundreds of years zero people had ever thought of it before this is a process that history is

engaged in and different cultures are in conversation with each other no as innovations only white people well i guess you're right like i don't have this is just deeply i mean deeply white supremacist that's fucking wild yeah that's fucking wild to not know the massive interplay of trade and every like between oh my god well and even even legalistic concepts that alex is is fascinated by and insisting that white people invented like the very basis of freedom a lot of that's not based entirely or created at a whole cloth by european western cultures i mean it's it's like it's like if he said everybody in sumer was white sure like sure fucking fine whatever yeah great basic freedom and books are thanks to white people this sucks yeah that really

sucks anyway alex gets to calls why let's talk to skylar in washington go ahead hey alex god bless you god peace be with you in this war can you hear me yes sir thank you thank you i just want to cover this nbc posted this uh new report titled 100 kids in virginia given wrong dose of covid vaccine but we know it's nationwide surely and uh surely disturbing they had a doctor try and cover it up they they used this excuse of how they failed these kids and gave them adult doses and then they used this excuse to say that they should restart their vaccine regimen possibly giving more doses of vaccine i saw that spin so oh we gave you three times what we say we should give you so the answer is it won't work because we gave you three times

more that doesn't make any sense it doesn't make any sense because this caller and alex have the story backwards they're saying that these hundred kids in virginia were giving adult doses of the vaccine three times what they were supposed to get but that's not true in reality according to a story in the washington post quote the doses of phyzer vaccine given at the clinic were deluded more than recommended according to the health department it's not clear if this is what happened in this other case but in another incident in luden county uh virginia a pharmacy was administering incorrect doses to children but their mistake kind of makes sense if you don't think about it too much children's doses are one third of the standard dose so you might think that you could dilute one

third of a standard dose and just like that you've cooked up a child oh boy the issue here is that the experts don't actually know if that's something that would work right it's possible right it would be okay sure uh but they're not they're concerned that this wouldn't deliver a full dose and they don't have the proper information so there's some concern yeah if this is how the dosing is being done yeah i i imagine that if i if i were one of the people who designed the vaccine that knowledge that some pharmacist was just like oh well if i have three little cups i'll just pour a little bit of this vaccine in there each one that's probably not the way you want to i think the pharmacist is probably doing it a little bit more carefully than you're describing sure he's not using plastic

cups and saying drink it but yes but yeah the the point is that you know alex and this caller are workshopping a conspiracy theory about a story that they have entirely wrong yeah that's cheating that's just cheating like what is the point of this show i take things that are wrong and tell people they're right i guess so oh my god that is the point of that show yop shit so alex gets another call from a guy who's an investigative reporter and i thought i'm sorry i thought i'm very excited to hear from this investigator let's see what he has to say and then i quickly got disappointed also his name is ragnarok hey hey alex jose ragnarok here from florida i was just want to call in and um i'm an investigative journalist i used to work for orlando examiner

in florida in 2010 i was covering the obama administration in my articles and i was public publishing a lot of them um so i had one of these deep state illuminati people email me commenting on my particles this is about where i kind of decided like maybe you're not an investigative journalist i'm thinking not um yeah saying you know about 50 percent of what i'm saying is true the other 50 percent isn't true and just rebuttling what he can and then confirming what i have found so i responded to that in kind six months later after he sent me that this is a great story 11 22 2010 and i got fired on 11 23 2010 after twitter facebook youtube google all of them called up orlando examiner said if you don't fire this guy we're gonna terminate our contract with you

at this point i'm pretty sure alex is eating because yeah there's no way that he's not this is a really boring story and he is not interrupting it yeah it not like building on anything not trying to derail it into more interesting territory nope this story is just like i had a illuminati globalist send me an email and then i responded six months later and then i was fired i'm surprised i'm not hearing the satisfying crunch of an egg roll yeah yeah or a nice sammy yeah so i've been experiencing my voice being silenced for about 11 years everything you are going through i've went through it's a battle we got on our hands but it's surprising i got on your shows thank you for having me on i appreciate you going

oh the covid vaccination the mandatory vaccinations it's in the literature it says that the very patent the creators the patent whoever takes that you become property of the ones who have that patent oh we're doing that i mean it does say that they own the genetic material and it's crazy what they're doing it's unbelievable oh boy yep that was a long walk to get to a dumb theory yep yep uh yeah yeah so all in all i'm not finding myself uh in a in a position where this is an intriguing uh episode yeah that's that story soured me on any hope of interest it really put some air brakes on alex's show and are wild in 2010 i already stopped caring sir and i kind of understand why alex ends up doing what he does at this point which is

you know rid of the calls yeah he's he decides he's gonna play a statement that he recorded probably during one of the commercial breaks i gotta finish eating yeah and that's why the democratic party and these billionaire philanthropists as they call themselves have been financing the attacks on the second amendment and on the first amendment in this country and financing an attack on the judiciary they have been buying up the judges they have been buying up the courts they've been paying for all the da's they've been putting in the county attorneys as well and even the state attorney generals they admit this and the witch hunts against their political opposition are now legion and that's all that's happened here i have spent millions of dollars

fighting these fraudulent sandy hook lawsuits against me and they never wanted me to have my real day in court in front of a jury it's too dangerous for the establishment that uses those dead children to try to destroy the first amendment not just the second amendment and so we gave them all of our documents all of our bank records things that had nothing to do with the defamation suit and the judge in texas and the judge in connecticut in lockstep said jones has failed to give us documents and it's simply not true it is a lie alex is the victim i mean they did everything right they didn't say they you failed to give them documents they got plenty of documents some some well some documents didn't come and some were suspicious there were a wildly too many

documents in some situations yeah so i mean he just did everything right and sure sure and this is so egregious that like they're taking our first amendment rights away but it's so egregious that it's going to turn people on like it's going to wake people up obviously all of this is because the establishment is in its death rows and it's lost control of the american people and so they think if they can target leaders of the populist opposition and and demonize us and do all sorts of corrupt things to us that that's going to intimidate other people to not stand up politically against them but that's not going to work it's just like when hitler bombed civilian targets in england is it and the general public went from being 90 percent against a war to 90 plus percent

for a war and so that's what's happening is this is nothing but the judicial system being weaponized trying to intimidate me and others it's not going to work i'm going to work harder i'm going to put out more films i'm going to do more interviews and i'm going to continue with my pro america freedom advocacy and i'm not going to be silenced yeah i i i don't think that's going to come to pass because even in good times he said he was going to make more documentaries of work harder even when he had plenty of money instead what he did was buy a fucking tank yeah so the bombing of britain during world war two lasted over eight months in 1940 to 1941 the united kingdom declared war on germany in 1939 so that was how already happened no i'm going to need to see alex cite

some sources on this 90 against a 90 four figure in terms of british support for the war because i can't find anything that comes close to that there was a spike in morale and support for the war at the end of the blitz but it also coincided with when the sylvia union officially entered the war so these motivators could be working in concert together also there was a spike when the us joined the war so i mean like there's historical things yeah anyway the point alex is making about germany hoping to demoralize the british with the blitz but that only making them more in favor of the war is maybe somewhat accurate but only if you interpret it really generously also an important point is that the enthusiasm in in britain went up when the blitz ended not while the bombing

campaign was still active this dynamic kind of hurts alex's metaphor but i don't want to split too many hairs it's just it's something that he brings up over and over and over again he only really has maybe a hundred sort of word blocks that he uses sure and just sort of fits them in where they need to go right right headline pick a word block right pick a metaphor right talk about how you're disappointed in a kid we got we got mad libs yes more or less yeah so anyway alex is done he does this like the plays his his statement and it's just more of the same just sort of like i got set up yeah of course i'm gonna say he's free alex no this is what this is what it's all been about since 1998 this is what they have been working towards dan yeah and it should have happened

within five years but his timing was off that they they fucked around it did 9 11 look they're 10 years behind we all know that their plans are are always right yeah yeah some some other stuff got in in the way sure so alex brings on this guy named drew her nandes and he is a guy who is an activist on the right and a big shithead and he presents himself as a journalist kind of because he goes and he like livestreams stuff he happened to be in conosha live streaming and so he is now been called as a defense witness in the written house trial oh great now there have been some concerns about him being a little bit too much of a biased person what would you make what would make you say that i would agree with those concerns he says i'm not biased to anything except the truth

and my rebuttal to that would be a buddy you're on info wars there you go so you got problems you were biased against the truth so anyway alex has a little bit of a bull session with this guy who's dangerously close to being offered a job great and here's here's a little bit of that what you talked about how the left and woke ism is a new religion claus schwaab came out two days ago gave a speech the head of the w to to build a bird group davos group and he's the head of all those globalist organizations you know he's really like the world corporate president the chairman of the board and he openly said we're creating a new religion of the earth and that's how we're going to unify everybody it's a religion where humans are bad and evil and they the high priests are

going to make sure that they you know suppress us and control us for the good of the earth i mean this is a very authoritarian system so can you elaborate on your point about how they are an oppressive religion that wants control of our bodies because that's a really good point because i mean when you take a look at this from like a biblical worldview that's the end game for lucifer and for satan now we're going to get into some theology because that's what is going to happen with the advent of the antichrist he is going to be a superstar that is going to unify the world that is going to usher in a one world religion one world economy and one world system and we are seeing this unfold right now i'm not saying that we are literally living in the book of revelation

right now because there are some precursors that need to take place according to the bible but we we are literally watching right now is the bible would refer it to as the spirit of the antichrist because this is the grand finale before the second coming of jesus christ oh boy so quick clarification claus job isn't the head of the world trade organization he's the head of the world economic forum but to alex all of these organizations are basically the same thing so it doesn't really matter that's not really a um so also claus job was giving a speech at world economic forum summit that took place last weekend and he didn't say the things alex is saying right also drew in and is is clearly insane also i don't know if you remember this but i was listening

to this i i remembered like i hate this guy yeah i remember him being like journalist baby that's that's the he's one of the journalist babies oh yeah this voice he just sounds like a whiny baby he's the worst yeah yeah i got really annoyed listening to this i can't believe that you here's here's the thing about being a witness i i understand because the judge is a piece of shit and that's not unusual but i mean if i'm on the jury i would like the defense to always question or the anybody to always question their witnesses do you believe that it's lucifer's plan right what's happening right now because if that's the case then i don't care what you have to say do do you believe that when you were at that protest in kanosha do you believe that the devil

was involved do you believe that this is part of end times prophecy absolutely when you were there is that a state of mind you were in absolutely is it possible that might that might affect how you experienced things i mean i don't even care if it's might that's the end for me i don't believe you so anyway um i i just think this guy sounds like a baby yeah how much further does this need to go they want to dictate your children they want to jab your children they think they know what's best better than an own parent for your own babies your own children that goes beyond politics way beyond politics way beyond democrat way beyond republican way beyond trump way beyond biden this is evil it's evil when people think that they can dictate and control and know it's

best for your own babies over you as a parent how the hell could you ever allow that ever in what universe by the way you know what fouchi means in latin isn't it like uh death death right oh my god it means grim reaper oh my god you see what i'm saying you see how this all just kind of like comes together like don't say it comes together because of us it's preplanned because god knew it was gonna happen but yeah fouchi doesn't mean death or grim reaper the name is derived from the sicilian word for sickle uh the name comes from people who had the occupation of making sickles having that name much like smith or miller or occupational rooted names i was going to say it's like an agriculturalist basically yeah like uh you know how some people have the last name farmer yep

anyway this is the perfect sort of information for alex to throw around because it means nothing but it has the tendency to blow idiot's minds and it's working i mean just just that but some people just can't be orators you know if that's not your skill it's not your skill but this this and yeah how could they let how could you let people trust their babies more than their parents like oh my god yeah go away i mean i find this guy to have a credibility problem i find him to have a bias problem i think he's annoying uh that doesn't really affect the judicial part no but also i think that him saying things like this next clip that i'm going to play i think this is a problem for him being involved as a witness for the defense sure he's going to talk about one of

the people who got shot one of the people that written house killed yes this is a person who has some history of abuse against children uh he perpetrated okay it is exaggerated by alex and drew but i'm i'm not minimizing the fact that that is a part of this right right right now here is what he says this is just just awful how do we get to this point where we are propping up child molesters out in the open that is who joseph rozenbaum is and was that's a fact and that is exactly why they didn't want it to come out in the trial because they knew if the jury knew this they exactly knew that possibly this guy deserved to get shot because kyle rinhouse was a minor when joseph rozenbaum was charging him from behind i was talking about rozenbaum he was

raping little kids that's something that i think is impeachable as a witness him expressing a mentality that maybe the jury would decide that he deserved to die because of past actions um i i just don't i don't think he should be anywhere near that courtroom no that's that's fucked up yeah that's just fucked up yeah i think being on info wars is bad enough but then when you're expressing these kinds of opinions it's i i just don't i it all because because he's basically implying that it's okay if it turns out after the fact yeah if later you learn something about a person if you can defend your actions after the fact yeah based on some of being bad that's crazy it's like it's like if i liked murdering people and then i pushed somebody off a cliff and then i

was in court and they were like ah but did you know this guy was also a murderer i'd be like see i'm totally off the hook now no maybe the jury would think he deserves to be pushed off a cliff maybe i'm the hero that's not how the law works no it's still against the law yeah the jury wouldn't be like ah aha i don't care about the person yeah this isn't fucking texas of the 1800s no it's not just like oh yeah well he had it coming again not guilty this is baby shit yeah this is how children absolutely this is not a mature unreal fully adult person whiny babies yeah so anyway here's how drew ends the show alex is uh he wants drew to wrap it up throws it to him you get the final word my man oh god drew we got 30 seconds take us out

america you need to wake up to the reality look at the culture look at education look at politics look at the grand scale look at the entire world look at the justice system the so called justice system it's all being subverted right now you need to stand up for what's true for what's righteous and what's honest because it's either now or it's never that's absolutely right choose god folks god will win in the end this is all a giant test that seems also impeachable as a witness if he has these beliefs about the justice system yeah it doesn't i don't know i don't i'm i'm not i'm not happy by any of this such a boring speech i was longing for the story from 2010 again i was like oh wait a somebody sent a comment towards you bring back ragnarok absolutely that guy is a better journalist

seems like give him a job oh anyway uh i i think i think that this is actually exactly what you'd kind of expect sure alex deflecting saying i did everything right i'm not to blame these people jam me up it's fraud that's exactly what you'd expect once it's over there's no reason to be angry anymore yeah like the anger is a useful sales motivation until the actual door is shut right right now the door is shut it's just a matter of pr campaigns to make sure that your revenue streams from the audience doesn't dry up right and i think he's doing exactly what he needs to do on that front yeah uh he's also being uh overtly uh white supremacist yeah um also being real stupid and uh hanging out with uh drew baby you know here's something weird this just this thought

just occurred to me okay so alex if the vaccines do murder everybody uh will be off the hook so shouldn't he be rooting for people to take the vaccine if he believes that people who take the vaccine will die guess who took the vaccine judges juries lawyers shouldn't he be like hey everybody that i don't like get this vaccine well no because he he believes in humanity too much because he loves people and he doesn't want to that was that was the closest spit taking a good long while yeah that one got me um integrity decency sure love of fellow man honestly god it's all about god yep yep um so uh we end this in a in a in a sort of state where i think we're in a holding pattern until we know kind of what the damages are gonna be yeah because i think if

they're considerable um alex might be in very big trouble yeah if it's not he might be able to fuck around and have some uh money bombs and maybe make enough money to coast through maybe you know cut some staff sure maybe slim down a little bit i don't know i just can't think of any way to go to a jury with anything other than end info wars money you know what i mean like listen this is not going to stop unless we stop it you know what i'm saying so we have to either either he stops info wars or we award a judgment so high that he has to stop info wars that seems to be the only option for me otherwise what's the point of any of this i understand where you're coming from i just don't know if that flies in court i don't i don't agree i agree with that i

agree with that but i mean honestly what's the point of any of this if he's allowed to continue doing it what's the fucking point you know yeah i mean i guess the point i would want to uh seek is whatever it is that the families who were suing him want sure of course no i would defer to that you're absolutely right on that absolutely but i i i think i think that um you know i don't i you know i think people might expect that there'd be like a big change of like his tone because he lost this suit absolutely not it's not the case but i mean that's kind of my point yeah it's not this behavior isn't going to stop because he gets a huge judgment against him yeah this behavior is going to continue for as long as he does his show the only option to make this

a win is to end info wars but if he does end info wars then he could just do a podcast true absolutely i'm not saying that that's i'm just saying that that's what i would be yeah pushing for you know i i understand yeah um i don't know and we'll see what happens but but for now jordan uh we have a website we do it's knowledge fight calm yep we are also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yeah also we had intended to not have an episode today right for wednesday because i wanted a little break this sneaky snake was so sneaky it snuck up on us yes uh you know times necessitated us having an episode so uh if you've made it this far here's a warning we might not have an episode

on friday uh we'll see we'll see tbd if he gets drunk and does a special report we might have an episode on friday we might uh but uh until uh we see again uh i've been neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl rundis and now here comes the sex robots andy and chansas you're on the here thanks for holding so alexa my first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you