Knowledge Fight - #619: November 16, 2021

Episode Date: November 22, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how Alex is holding up after losing a bunch of court cases.  In this installment, Alex rambles about how he's murdered people, drifts into deeply misogynistic and homoph...obic territory, and has a dumb interview with Mike Flynn. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm Mr. Fincault. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back knowledge. Right. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around worship by the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan, Jordan, Jordan. I have a quick question. Sure. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is possibly something uncharacteristic. Maybe
Starting point is 00:01:16 people wouldn't think this one because I don't like violent video games. Sure. Generally, I think it's like Donkey Kong country. Maybe, you know, soothing like games where the violence is you jump on something, jump on a goomba or a troopa. Yeah, it's almost theoretical. Yeah, cartoony stuff. Yeah. But the I just saw that Grand Theft Auto three vice city and St. Andreas were released on the switch. And I'm over the moon over the moon. Yeah, yeah, I played the shit out of those when I was younger, like 17 onward or whatever. And there's just something about it. I don't really like the violence aspect of it. I kind of try and play that down as much as I can. Yeah, don't commit unnecessary violence. Right. But they're such a great like open world,
Starting point is 00:02:06 but not too big. Right. Kind of vibe. I like people telling me what to do, like going on missions and stuff. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah, I remember playing those games and being like, well, I've seen my friends play this and they just commit violence all the time. I am going to walk to my next missing like a gentleman. Yeah, you know, like that whole I'm not going to steal anybody's car. Yeah, that would be rude. I think also I've started on three. And I think that there are some criticisms that people have that like some of the aesthetic of the original version on the PS2 are gone. And I kind of do agree with that. Like it's stylistically a little bit different visually. Okay. But I don't mind. I actually I don't mind that too much. But yeah, just get a
Starting point is 00:02:53 thrill out of finding a hidden package. Just great. You're running around like, why am I on this rooftop? Oh, haha. That's why. Great. Anyway, what about you? Dan, my bright spot is a little bit of a twilight spot. I'll tell you it begins with breaking a commandment. First, Dan, since you've gotten this desk, I have coveted. I have coveted. I've cutted this shit out of this desk. See, I told you it was a nice desk. It's a nice desk. So I was like, I'm not proud of this, but I had to get myself a new desk. I had to. I didn't want to. I just couldn't look at my own old desk anymore. I understand. Right. So I got it. And as you know about how I buy things, I found my price range got a deal and then just ordered it with no real consideration. No, no, it's probably the first
Starting point is 00:03:45 thing. Check it off like I don't care. Yeah. So it's huge. It's way bigger than I thought it was. You got to be careful about that. Incredibly complicated. It took me two full days to put together. Wow. I was so proud of myself. I completed it. And then the next morning, I opened the drawer and the whole thing, the whole drawer fell apart as if it was just like a cartoon. Yes. Like an absolute cartoon. So my bright spot was successfully putting that thing together. That does feel good. It felt great. Yeah. And my dark spot is that it is already falling apart, but you'll have another bright spot and that is to put it together again. So congratulations. I'm excited. Double bright spot. Yeah. So Jordan, today we are going to be
Starting point is 00:04:24 going over a modern day episode. We're going to be talking about November 16th. Blackjack. 21 Blackjack. I was trying to I was trying to fall start too soon, kid. I was trying to fall early, kid. I can't. I can't remember what the real fast and furious line is and what the wrong one is that I've taught myself is the right one at the very beginning. Whenever he hits the nose too soon, too early, too soon. Who cares? Doesn't matter. Anyway, we're going to be talking about that. It's fucked up. Yeah, that sounds about right. It's a mess. And also Alex premieres a bit of his interview with General Flynn, General Mike Flynn. And so we will be taking a brief detour to go over that interview. Excellent. And I'm excited to get down to business on that. But
Starting point is 00:05:08 first, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say thank you and hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Jane, thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you, Jane. Next, Gregory. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thanks, Greg. Thank you. Next, Jess. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thanks, Jess. Thank you. Next, Drew. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you, Drew. And Randy and Candy from Arkansas. Thank you so much. You are now both policy walks. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much, Randy and Candy. Thank you. So, Jordan, like I said, this episode's pretty fucked up. I don't like some of the content that we're
Starting point is 00:05:47 going to end up talking about. Well, the world, I don't like some of the world's content that's been going on. Yeah, this is a little different, though. It's not the same kind of fucked up. It's just sure. Anyway, here's not a context drop from today's show. I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. All this. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. All right. Okay. Yep. So we're going to start here actually not on the episode, but we're going to start with a little video that Alex put out where he is really embodying his current spirit and his current vibe. This is a little little video that he put out on Bandod video. Save Info Wars Defense Fund. Save Info Wars Defense Fund. You can find the link at saveinfowars.com. I wrote it on this folder right here. Oh, look,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I'm up against the Democratic Party. Real quick, I just got to pause it. Did he think he was going to forget saveinfowars.com? He's got to write it on the folder. That's the only explanation. I made a note. It's the only thing, but it's a whole thing. Yeah. I'm against people that bankrupted Remington. They want to take us off air. And so we've got to fight this in court. We've got to go to the jury trials, even though I've already been found guilty by default. Now they're going to try to tell the jury how guilty I am. So guilty. It's going to take a lot of money to fight this and a lot of money for the appeals. And so I can't spend the money we have paying our crew and running our independent media outlet that reaches millions of people without your support. Info Wars is doing,
Starting point is 00:07:15 it's most important work ever right now. So this is a no brainer. Please go to saveinfowars.com. Make a $10 donation, $1,000 donation. Wealthy people out there, your free speech is being destroyed. Info Wars is just the first domino to fall. And if wealthy folks don't start spending their money promoting liberty, promoting freedom, we're going to lose this country and we're going to lose the world to tyranny. So please go to saveinfowars.com. It's Give, Send, Go. They're great folks. They're patriots. We're banned everywhere else. You can be able to raise money. And this will help keep us in the fight for the next few years. So I've never issued an alert to Sirius. I need your help right now. Stand up for yourself. Stand up for your rights. Stand up
Starting point is 00:07:58 for free speech. Stand up for America. And don't let these bullies intimidate anybody. Please donate right now at saveinfowars.com. Hey, rich people, cough cough Elon Musk, cough cough Joe Rogan. Amazing. I love a good appeal to rich people's sense of dignity. Yeah. And their love of the First Amendment. Oh, rich people love the First Amendment. So goddamn much. Yeah. So this is what Alex does. He has absolutely no standards and doesn't give a fuck about how his actions and words affect other people. So he ends up acting like a total dick. And then every now and then he gets himself into trouble. He milks that trouble for all the free press that he can get out of it presenting himself as a persecuted victim the whole time. If he's allowed to he ends up settling and
Starting point is 00:08:39 he makes quiet apologies to get himself off the hook like he did with James Aliphantus and Hamdi Ulakaya. When that's not an option or you know someone important to Infowars ends up owing a lot of money, you better believe that an emergency money bomb is coming right around the corner. Oh yeah. We called that pretty. It was not a not a ambitious prediction. It's pretty obvious. It did not require any psychic powers. No. Merely deduction. Yes. This doesn't have anything to do with Alex being able to afford appeals or fight the good fight to clear his name and defend the First Amendment or ever bullshit he thinks he's doing. This is trying to trick the audience into paying what he's going to end up being ordered to pay for losing these suits. This is basically the
Starting point is 00:09:22 equivalent of being a teen and like begging your parents to give you money to pay off a speeding ticket you got when you were joyriding. Alex wants someone else to face the consequences for him so he can continue his flagrantly irresponsible bullshit that'll end up leading to more consequences that the audience will have to bail him out of them. Yeah. It's honestly very sad and childish and I hope the audience doesn't fall for it again. But I think they might not. I think they might not be totally convinced. You think so? I went to the give send go page. How's it going? He's trying to raise two million dollars. And we've give sended him eight percent of it. And it's been up for a bit. Like the people have had time to find their way to that page to donate. And that's a give
Starting point is 00:10:05 send go. Do not pass go. Do not collect too much. I suspect he might have banged this gong too many times. And I don't know. He might be fishing in a dry well. Yeah. And I think that the audience sees the idea that like Joe Rogan just got a hundred million dollar contract with Spotify. If he believes what Alex says and really thinks that this is that important two millions a drop in the bucket. He's able to get that from Rogan easy. Yeah. Why do you have to ask the people who are going paycheck to paycheck or you know the good people in the audience? Why are you trying to bulk them? Yeah. Because Rogan knows it's bullshit too. Of course it's bullshit. Nobody wants to pay for it. Yeah. Anyway. Good luck. Yeah. I know. I'm excited to see how this one goes.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. So here we go. We're going to start off on the sixteenth. And here's where we're at. Let me tell you what's really huge and got me having butterflies right now. And I don't get butterflies a lot and having really big ones today. I think a big war is about to start. Something big is about to go down. My sense has never been this strong. It's like on fire right now. Talk about chills. Talk about the stomach. Man, that is some that is some energy right there. There's some big stuff. Yep. So big stuff. I'm going to lose all of my money. I'm going to lose all of my money.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It looks bad if you present yourself that way. So you probably should just say that there's a giant war coming. There's probably a huge war coming. Probably the end of the world is right around the corner. I mean, I got to have to guess that all the world's nuclear powers are going to start a war against each other immediately or I'm going to lose all of my money. I don't know which one. What you don't understand is me being rich is the only thing that is holding back the end of the world. I would not be surprised if he believed that on some level. Yeah, it would be good to see him try to pull that one off. So yeah, Alex is he's high, but he's high on fighting Satan. Sure. That's what you should know.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Sure. I'm high as a kite fighting Satan. I mean, I would not be anywhere else. The more I fight tyranny, the more I face down evil, the more I don't back down. Just the more the universe opens up to just things I could never even imagine. And it's it's a massive brain boost, ladies and gentlemen. Um, an expansion of the soul like Narls Barkley talks about what is going crazy, but he's just having crazy and just there's so much space. It's just pop your head blows off and it's just so amazing to be in the quiet place the most high like the philosopher Narls Barkley. I mean, I mean, like, oh boy, let's just start with Silo. Wow. Amazing voice. Maybe bad opinions. No argument there. A lot of bad shit. A lot of bad dude shit going on there.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I was looking over his wikipedia page and it was it was bizarre how there was sort of this pattern of him saying horrible things on Twitter and then immediately going, Hey man, I didn't mean to offend anybody. Listen, I'm sorry. I just have terrible thoughts that I want to enforce upon people and then I don't want to face any consequences for them. I'm Silo green. Yeah. Um, so I didn't cut this clip because it would be too long and I don't really care that much. But the next commercial break he comes in with crazy. Of course he does. And he's just like just singing along for it. Oh boy. Does he go for the falsetto? Maybe I'm crazy. No, no, oh, come on. He's shattering it. I would like to see the upper end of Alex's register. I want to
Starting point is 00:13:51 know what the falsetto is. It's probably not great. Speaking of not great, Alex gets to this clip of Mike Flynn, the interview pretty quick into the show pretty early on. Okay. All right. Let's go ahead my friends and go to this very important little short clip. That's from just the intro of the hour long interview with General Flynn that we shot Saturday in San Antonio. It's in one of the little green rooms off where he was speaking to crowd of 5000 people. And we're also on Thursday. Got some other interviews I did in the speech I gave. That's going to be on Thursday and it's very powerful as well with Patrick Berg. But this is the interview that really if people listen to it,
Starting point is 00:14:33 we'll change the world. This is the battle plan of victory here. So it's the battle plan of victory. Sure. So Alex plays this little clip. It's like a sizzle reel kind of of this interview. The flinter view is I'm going to call it. Don't you dare. Come on. I'm taking it away from you. So the part that's hilarious about this is that the overarching theme of the clips that Alex plays on his show is just Flynn saying that Alex was right all along. It's really self aggrandizing. I didn't get any indication that the interview was a battle plan for victory as much as it was a preview almost entirely about how great Alex is. That doesn't surprise me since he's a narcissist and having people talk about how great you are is kind of the road to victory. Anyway, I didn't
Starting point is 00:15:15 feel like I got a good sense of what the interview was about from this sizzle reel. So like I said, I decided to watch the full version and see what I could learn. Sure. Sure. And I was really particularly trying to figure out like where is the battle plan. Right. Because that's what Alex is saying. This is there's like useful information moving forward. Absolutely. This is how we're going to achieve victory. We need to divide these certain groups. We need to flank them etc etc battle plans. It's mostly complaining. There's a lot to complain about. Yeah. So they touch on the sixth a little bit. And you know, I'm I think of people that are that are following what I'm doing or what's happening in my life and everything that's happening in yours as well
Starting point is 00:15:58 with all of this stuff with the January 6 that call it the the the insurrection crucifixion because that's what it is. And in a way, you know, from a biblical sense, Nancy Pelosi is like the punches pilot of this of this operation that they are doing to basically steal away all of the the other aspects of what's happening across this country. Like you got the Durham report, right? Whatever comes out of that the Durham investigation is ongoing. And there's been a lot of things dropped. Haven't been things dropped. People aren't covering that stuff up. Look, did anybody try and shit on Pontius Pilots desk? Not that I'm aware. I don't think they were. I don't think he had a desk. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. He had some water. I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:16:46 follow this metaphor. Yeah, I'm struggling. Who's Jesus? I have no idea. How is Nancy Pelosi Pontius pilot? Are the oath keepers Jesus collectively? Who's who is Nancy Pelosi? Well, I mean, did somebody bring something to Nancy Pelosi that she then washed her hands of like did somebody say, Hey, Nancy, we want all of these insurrectionists to be free or whatever because they're the Messiah. And she was like, nah, dude, wait, no, that's even backwards. She would have been the one saying, no, everybody here is fine. Don't kill them. Is QAnon Barabbas? I guess. Yeah. Then the crowd is chanting for Mike Pence's death, but she's saying, Mike Pence is Jesus. Wait. Uh, yep. See, this is, this is a little confusing. I understand
Starting point is 00:17:38 the desire because insurrection rhymes with crucifixion. Yeah, no, it's sort of. I appreciate that word play. I understand why you want to get as biblical as you can. Oh, of course. Because it's red meat for the audience. They love it. This is dumb. I don't like it when people get both reality and unreality wrong. Sure. That's real frustrating. Speak one. Speaking of things that are questionable in terms of reality. Do you think that Mike Flynn thinks that the 2020 election was stolen? Uh, boy, that seems too obvious a question. So I'm going to go with no. Actually, it's yes, but there's a follow up question. Well, that's not, but that's not fair. Do you think that he thinks the 2016 election was stolen? I'm going to go with yes. Yep. You got that right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:24 In 2016, I believe, based on what we've learned in the last nine months, 10 months, that I believe that there was massive fraud conducted in the 2016 election. They just didn't have the mail in ballots. So they used the machines to manipulate. But Donald Trump in that case ran, you know, they, I mean, essentially ran the tables and he out did the algorithms. You know, there's word that everybody's learned the algorithms of these machines and he beat the odds and he became president. And then for four years, they tried to take him out. They tried to cut him off at the knees every single day. And that story is still being told. And so what they decided, and I think that they decided this right after the 2016 election, they said, this is never going
Starting point is 00:19:08 to happen again. We're never going to have another election that we're not going to control the outcome of. And so kick in COVID, right? Bring in COVID, bring in the COVID control mechanisms. And a very, very smart, they did it in a very masterful way. I give them a lot of credit. It's like military strategy at its finest. And what they did was they used the COVID control mechanisms to bring in the whole mail in ballot, right? There's so much fraud in mail in ballot. So yeah, we got this whole plan. Yeah. Very elaborate. Oh, of course. So the 2016 election was stolen, but Trump did so well that he overrode the voter fraud, which is that's Alex's narrative. That's what he says. Right. And then because they're like, fuck, he's too good. We didn't
Starting point is 00:20:00 consider this when we were rigging the election. We didn't consider that it would be possible that someone could be so popular that they would overcome all efforts to take him down. So we have to get COVID. I think I would say that if you've started invalidating even the elections you've won, your argument is let's never hold elections again. Well, that's kind of what Flynn ends up getting towards in this interview as well, because he's talking about like the Junkin election and in Virginia. And he's basically saying that that was the same thing. Yeah, of course. They were trying to steal it. Right. Right. Right. Even if we win, it's stolen. It's like, this is not a good path for us to go down. There's never a win. No. Oh, boy. No.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So 17 minutes into this interview, it's probably 35 minutes long all day. You know, all things considered. Sure. Alex finally asks, what can we do to fight back? So maybe this is the battle plan. Okay, here we go. And it's a little is Flynn's response might be a little cliche. What are some basic things the American people can do in the Congress and the states and the legislatures and some of the good senators we have can do to get past the intimidation when we're told don't investigate, don't call for election security, don't call for election integrity. What can we do to get people moving in the right direction to make sure they don't steal 20? Good question. And so first of all,
Starting point is 00:21:35 courage is a decision. What courage is not something that is in your DNA, it might be, but what day courage is a decision that you have to make. So you're telling me it's possible that courage might be in your DNA. Explain to me how courage is both a decision and something you were innately born with. I don't know. Okay, that's a good point. I think it's just a cliche thing that sounds fun. Courage is a choice. Honor is a choice for life decisions. Yeah, you could see that on a poster or something. Yeah, yeah. Hang in there. So basically, this advice almost entirely boils down to like think locally and then it'll have global ramifications basically. It's just a more cliche nonsense that people have been like, but there's some
Starting point is 00:22:22 truth to it, but it's kind of an idea that a lot of people in organizing have already known for a long time. It's like Jimmy James is the secret of management. Secret number 56. I'm with stupid. Yeah, it's trite at very least and not groundbreaking at best. No. So one of the ways that you can act locally though, you got to get in there to those school board meetings, man. It's so fun what the right wing is doing at school board meetings. They love it. They eat that up. Why has there been so much visibility about school boards and school board activity around this country? You kind of say to yourself, where did these people come from? Why did school boards get like this? Part of it is is that we have taken for granted our freedoms and we have not gotten
Starting point is 00:23:10 involved. We just sort of take it, you know, take it for granted. Oh, you know, Alex, this guy, Alex, he's on the school board and you go, well, where'd Alex come from? And who is he? What is his background? And all of a sudden we're finding out that we have these what I call democratic socialists that are on these school boards because the education system is the way to change the entire culture of a country. And they brag about that. And they brag about it. They write about it. They've been talking about it for decades. This is not something that happened because of Donald Trump. This has been going on for decades. It's not so much that there's something different going on with school boards as it is. People have figured out that they can get viral videos really easily
Starting point is 00:23:49 by going and yelling at school boards and people just don't stop them. Right. So I don't know where Flynn's getting any stats about socialists on school boards, but I understand what he's doing. This is just an attempt to encourage more intimidation and chaos at school board meetings because they're the perfect target for right wing agitation. School board members probably aren't going to argue with you. You just get to yell whatever you want for a few minutes, then you get to post a video of yourself, which encourages more people who want attention to do the same thing. It's a self perpetuating cycle. Yeah. Now, another important thing to point out is that the people who share Alex and Flynn's politics don't have sway in most school boards
Starting point is 00:24:26 because they took their freedom for granted. They don't have sway there because they don't care about the actual work that school boards do. And their politics would actually advocate for the elimination of public schools and the school boards. Yeah, they don't care. Yeah. And I mean, your argument is more like, Hey, this teacher wants you to read and you're like, Oh, well, that's a commie socialist right there. People who are drawn to serving on school boards generally aren't power mad socialists. They're people who care deeply about the community they live in and are often dedicated to educational issues. This is slightly idealistic on my part. And obviously there's some folks who aren't like high minded and totally altruistic. But being on a
Starting point is 00:25:04 school board generally means putting in a ton of extra work that's completely thankless and generally poorly compensated. According to the National School Board Association quote 75% of small district school board members receive no salary. A lot of school districts have elections for board members too. So that's an added hurdle that people have to clear in order to get on the board. It's not if you weren't paying attention for a long time and you didn't give a fuck about the fact that you could have voted for somebody else to be on the school board you dumb, dumb dick. I mean, you're the problem is their argument has to be like all that time that when you weren't paying attention, all this evil stuff was happening. Right. Not like the reason you didn't have to pay
Starting point is 00:25:45 attention is because everything was fine. Uh huh. You know, so now it's like they've been doing this all in secret. Despite the fact that if you were to go look at it, you were like, I haven't cared about my school board in my town for 40 fucking years. I didn't go to school here. I don't know any of the kids here. Why would I give a shit about the school board? And then all of a sudden now it's like, well, I'm some asshole who's doing nothing, but I think I'm going to go bother the school board dreadlocked. Dreadlocked weirdo can go scream at the school board and he also could have done that 10 years ago totally and just no one really know it wasn't that big a deal. And there was the right wing media wasn't in this like, Hey, let's go fuck with school boards.
Starting point is 00:26:24 It wasn't that. It wasn't the flavor du jour. Right. Yeah. So, uh, great. Here we go. This is bad. That's good. Flynn. You jerk. Anyway, um, that's most of his, uh, battle plan is like fuck with school boards. Right. Find out who owns your local paper. Sure. Sure. I don't know if this is a battle plan. 5 million people together and buy Turner media. Yeah. Yeah. So I think a lot of what Alex wanted out of this interview is he wanted to get Flynn to say that he was going to run for president and he doesn't really, you're already traveling around the country working hard to keep people organized and ready and empowering and force multiplying and doing a beautiful job. And I just think that you could accelerate that if you went ahead soon and did
Starting point is 00:27:08 declare that you were running an America first party or something and that if Trump did run and then built up that you'd swing that support over, I mean, I think that would energize what you're doing even more, but that's my opinion. And I know you talked to Trump. I think he would understand that you're not angling to undercutting and I just, but I just, I just can't wait to be part of this with you general. And thank you so much. Thanks Alex. Amazing interview. Thanks for having me on the time. So I like that part of the discussion about like, come on, you should say you're running for president is like, you know, Trump wouldn't think you're betraying him. Right. Right. Right. That's healthy. Hey, hey, listen, we want you to run for president knowing full well
Starting point is 00:27:45 you will not win. It's a waste of your time and, and at all the end of this, your main job is to give all of the stuff that you have worked hard for to somebody who has literally never worked a day in his life. Sounds good. Yeah. That's good stuff. I think I'd rather spend my time yelling at a school boy. There we go. So we get back to the episode proper and Alex has some, you know, he's always right about things. We've heard this. He has some predictions about where we're going with COVID vaccines. Living in denial is only going to let this take place. And so many people go, well, Jones, I'll just take a third, fourth, fifth, sixth shot. We're talking about seven to 10 a year. Of course, we submit to that will be one a day or one hour. I mean, they're going to do
Starting point is 00:28:27 this till you just getting injections that make you sterile and die. But the evidence is one shot super bad. Two is incredibly horrible. Three is just stratospheric problems. And they're just normalizing it incremental. It's like putting a frog in the pot during the heat up slowly. That's exactly what they're doing. So I guess the conservative estimate that he's making is seven to 10 COVID vaccines a year. Sure. And then maybe one a day, one an hour. Okay, so that might be a little bit exaggerated. 365 multiplied by 24, right? So that's, you have to take shots while you're sleeping. That's a good question. Yeah, I would assume so. You have to wake up in the middle of the night, give yourself a booster. Right. So let's say you get a good seven hours of sleep
Starting point is 00:29:13 a night. Sure. All right, then the 365 is only multiplied by 17, right? But you got to take one shot in the middle of the night just to hold you over. So we'll have to change into like a broken up sleep schedule. Right, right. So let's say you sleep three hours at a time. Let's call that 19 shots because you got one before you go to bed, one when you wake up and then one to boost yourself before your morning shot or possibly the government will mandate that you can only sleep in like 20 minute chunks. Sure. Like that Da Vinci sleep cycle. That would be fun. Or, and let me throw this at you. Just so you could take a shot every hour. Every room is altered to be like a Indiana Jones booby trap room where if you step on a certain tile, 30 vaccine shots
Starting point is 00:29:56 get shot at you from the walls. Or it could be like the hatch in Lost where there's a counter clicking down to an hour. You have to take the shot or else the electromagnetic anomaly will go off and crash a plane. Yeah, absolutely. There's gonna have to be stakes if you want me to get the shot on time every day. Stupid. Anyway, he might be fear mongering a little bit. Oh, you think? Yeah. Okay. So one of the side characters in the story of Info Wars that I think doesn't get enough play definitely does come up more than you'd expect is Alex's wife's tennis partner. Yes. Surprising. Both how much it comes up and then it comes up at all. We've not heard from this tennis partner in a while, but here's an update. Okay. I mean, hell, this one
Starting point is 00:30:39 was bragging to my wife yesterday how she's gonna take her seven and 10 year old to get vaccinated yesterday. She was playing tennis weather and she didn't even warn the lady. She said, well, it's just Darwinistic. She wants to kill her kids. I said, honey, that's terrible. She said, look, she knows who I am. She knows who you are. She shot her mouth off before. She was just rubbing it in. So she wants to brain damage her kids. It's up to her. I don't think she has a right to hurt her children, but that's where we are. Okay. Got cut off by the break. That's very funny. Yeah, that's very funny. Imagine Alex's wife. I didn't even warn her. Yeah. Yeah. She was talking shit. She was just she was just showing off that her husband doesn't run an outlet designed
Starting point is 00:31:22 expressly to destroy your children. What does it mean to brag about your children getting vaccinated? Oh man, my kids are not going to die. Look at your kids. They're going to die all the time. I think that's a strange phrasing. It is weird. So we're going to get into a little bit of Alex talking about how many abortions he's paid for. Okay. Some of this doesn't quite match up with some of the other comments he's made in the past. Sure. Timeline issues certainly come up. That'll happen. But I kind of after the initial shock of him admitting on air that he's paid for over 10 abortions, since the shock of that, I don't want to talk about that too much because I don't want to give the appearance that I would be in any way judgmental of someone making that
Starting point is 00:32:09 decision. Yeah, we have no moralization. Right. And I don't want that to possibly be misconstrued. Sure. In this case, it kind of got to bring it up because of where the conversation goes. This is a mess, my man. Oh boy. Some of my first access TV shows 28 years ago, I explained to people that I was a Christian, but that I wasn't a Bible thumper, and I wasn't judging people. And I explained how the left would control women and men that had taken part in abortions by saying you're a sinner, you're going to hell, you killed a baby. And so they go, no, it's not true. And then they commit and harden their hearts instead of, hey, God will forgive you. You got set up. You got lied to. That was a human
Starting point is 00:32:52 life. You know, your heart deep down, you know, it's true. Just ask God for forgiveness. The Holy Spirit will come into you and you'll be freed of this weight of what you were involved in. I know I paid for quite a few abortions and it literally cursed me and I sought God's face and was repenting, not even about the abortions, just the darkness I was in. And God literally, the Holy Spirit said, you need to say you're sorry to those children you killed, and you need to get on your knees and you need to ask forgiveness. And I did, and that was taken away from me. And then God said, now here's your mission. I was like 17 years old and it hit me like a, now you, I got rid of that, that curse on you. Now you're going to go
Starting point is 00:33:29 to work. And I was like, whoa, whoa, I just got struck by lightning. Yeah, that timeline doesn't quite work out for me based on other comments he's made in the past. I mean, wow. I mean, if it's, if it's that young, I guess his dad paid for 10 abortions plus. Oh, I think that was already understood. That was already understood. I believe so. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. It seems like his dad doesn't feel too much guilt about it. I do. He's not on the record. So thinking about this headspace that he's in, you know, he's like, I killed these kids. Oh no. That leads him to confess to murder again. Oh, okay. Good. And that's, that's what happened. They go, oh, he's a hypocrite. He's against abortion. And he admits he's done it. Well, it's like saying you committed a murder,
Starting point is 00:34:16 which I did. I'm a murderer. But I didn't just beat my children. I didn't just cut my children up in pieces. I've pounded a few skulls in. What? And the, you know, the issue is, is that I've repented of that. And then God said, well, there's going to be a price to pay. So I expect to be fed through a meat grinder. Well, that's what my children, my little children, I got them chopped up, vacuumed, cleaned it up, sold for body parts. I'm a sinner. I repent. I'm a bad person. I'm a killer. But I'll tell you something God forgave me. So he's trying to give this impression that God has forgiven him and then all the guilt is gone and, you know, all this, but like that is absolutely not true. No, he is intensely motivated by some kind of a guilt that he feels about this. I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:07 it would be hard to think to yourself after listening to that. Oh, repentance gives you clearer thoughts and calm of mind and free of heart. It allows you to see everything clearly and your motivations are just totally above board. It seems more like, and I'm going to throw this out there that he is haunted daily by his past and it tears him apart inside, leading him to do and commit terrible things and exaggerate the sins that he's committed. Like I've murdered people. So in a sense, I would argue that repentance doesn't do shit for you at all. If Alex is the embodiment of repentance, I would say that it's a bad thing. It's a bad deal. It's a real bad deal. Don't take it. Yeah, but forgiveness is good. It's good to forgive yourself. Good to
Starting point is 00:35:54 forgive yourself. So I know how sin works and I know how once you've committed the devil puts pressure on you and and uses the fact you have a conscience against you to manipulate and control you instead of just going to God and God will wipe it out. Ladies and gentlemen, doesn't mean you're perfect, but those weights are gone. Sure. They use the analogy of the Christmas story where his old boss has got all these giant chains and balls on him, all the bad things he did. He's got to carry on his back for eternity. Not a Christmas story. You can feel that weight when you've committed really big crimes and sins. You need to get rid of it. It's a long way back from hell. You don't want to cross that line. Quote, Glenn Danzig.
Starting point is 00:36:43 What is happening? He's quoted the philosopher Glenn Danzig and Charles Barkley on this episode. What is happening? Okay. It's great. All right. We know what's on his playlist today. So that was a Christmas Carol. Yeah. Alex is talking about Jacob Marley. Indeed. He wasn't his boss. He was his business partner. Indeed. And I believe if I'm not mistaken, the chains represented his wealth. Yes. Correct. Represented him being obsessed with business. You indeed got it. Yes. The more money he made, the heavier his chains were. It's not really about sins and the way Alex is describing it. It's about specific ones and their ironic punishment. Yep. So Alex is on one. As you can see, he's rambling about killing people and how he has done that in the past. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Which is great. Good start. Sure. Yeah. And so he gets into talking about how the man needed to get him off off air because he was given too much truth. I have I have a few thoughts about this that I want to discuss. Okay. We knew this day was coming. We knew it was going to happen because we had Operation Lockstep and we had spars 2023 2025 and we had all our different in game documents. And we knew that they were going to have a viral scare for disease X. The UN said this three years ago. Rockefeller Foundation said it 12 years ago that they would bring out the virus. They would scare everybody. They would try everybody to be locked down. They bring out a vaccine passport that would then be tied to a global travel passport and an internal passport that would
Starting point is 00:38:21 have a carbon tax attached to it. That was in the documents 12 years ago. Right around that same time. China started developing a social credit score and info wars dot com and prison planet dot com that now redirects info wars at the time at the time. We're the first to report on all of this and that's not again up here saying oh aren't we special. No it's saying we've done the research we've been the tip of the spear. That's why the enemy so upset. That's why they want to suffer. Imagine them panicking three years ago when I was the finally banned on Twitter six months after I was banned everywhere else and there were videos of millions of you saying I believe they're about to release a deadly virus to create fear and then have lockdowns
Starting point is 00:39:10 and bring in a global ID out of the system. Here's the documents. What do you think they thought when they saw that they said get him off now. Shut him up. How the hell does he know all this. Well you guys brag about it. It's a fun story but it's not it's not real. That's not that's not accurate at all. All the citations that he made at the beginning were all not real. Yeah. Operation lock steps not a real thing. Nope. Just various documents and scenario exercises that he's completely making shit up about. And this is this is what I want to get to. I don't think the idea that Alex has been yelling about them releasing a virus since 1998 right gives him any credibility. No it gives him so much credibility. He was right. I think it actually
Starting point is 00:40:00 works against his credibility. No no no. What because I can see your argument. Your argument is if somebody just keeps saying something that might happen and then when something similar happens just takes credit for it. Yeah. Sure. That sounds suspicious like maybe he doesn't know anything and he's just saying right like the way that he constantly talks about a coming economic collapse. Sure. In 2008 2009 happens. Summers of rage. So many summers of rage. Yeah. It doesn't. It actually is it cheapens the prediction. And if you add that to all of the predictions that he's made that have not come true. Sure. Primarily the globalists nuking American cities. Right. That was a big one that he was pretty obsessed with. Well Chicago was the
Starting point is 00:40:41 coming race war. There was that. All of these things that he's been wrong about that you just ignore. He's shit. He's shit at predicting things. Let me throw this at you because this conspiracy theory is going to break the case wide open. All right. I'm interested. So Alex is right about everything. But the globalists knowing that he's right. Don't do it when he says they're going to do it over and over and over again to make him look insane. But actually that is what Alex believes. Yeah. Because he's talked about like you know maybe maybe they won't do it because we've talked about it. We've publicized their plan. That's how they won't do it. Exactly. I don't know. It's ridiculous. So stupid. It's almost painful. It really is. Now also painful is Alex's deep
Starting point is 00:41:32 seated hatred of women. Yeah. Yeah. That's in there. Boy listen to this. That's down there. Statistically women are 10 20 30 times depending on the study more likely to get in a van with a man that pulls up and pulls out a knife or a gun and says get in. Most men will just run or fight because they know it's scarier to get in that van. It's not because the men have a bunch of courage. It's because they're not naive genetically. Men are more programmed to fight and actually look through the options. Women are programmed by their genetics on average to try to get along their body and try to you know make people ease back a little bit. So OK sir don't hurt me. Everything's OK. And then she ends up you know in a basement torture for
Starting point is 00:42:14 two weeks before she's killed. Yeah. Yikes. You know you really really got to believe that that's an inherently genetic trait. Otherwise you have to then deal with the fact that we actually live in a society that's oppressed women for so long and so brutally that the just acquiescence seems like an almost natural state of being as opposed to constant and near web. I mean just bananas. Just bananas. You got to think it's genetic. Otherwise we need to change something about society and we can't do that dad. We can't do that. Yeah. I'm baffled because I constantly end up in situations where I'm listening to this show and I'm like I can't believe I've listened to hundreds thousands of hours of the show and I still am like I can't believe you believe that.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You believe that women are genetically subservient or something. I mean yeah then like acquiescence then like what about let's and I'm going to throw this one out there because because we could easily bring up examples you know you could easily bring up like a Greta Thunberg or like a Sonya Sotomayor or something along those lines. Maybe someone more in Alex's lane maybe a Joan of Arc. Totally. Totally. You could do that but that's individuals. That's anecdotal. That's not enough to prove that genetically maybe we're not dealing with something. Alex loves anecdotal shit. So let's say there was a time when women weren't allowed to vote. Right. And the only way that they could get the vote was if a lot of them got together courageously. Yeah. That wouldn't
Starting point is 00:43:42 be possible because genetically they can't do that. Well Alex would argue that men were the ones who gave women the right to vote. Never mind. I'm point retracted. Obviously I was wrong about this the whole time. Yeah. So this is this is pretty gross. Women and children are way more likely to go into Stockholm syndrome and maybe that's a survival attribute. Maybe maybe maybe it's best sometimes. I mean that's why the Romans and every other ancient empire where they would take over an area would kill men above the age of 10 or 11 and they would keep the women and girls because the women and girls would self enforce on each other and just instantly convert within a few days to make their children survive. I mean even if a woman just saw her husband in 20 years
Starting point is 00:44:26 cut up and tortured to death she's going to give those Roman centurions the best blowjob of their life that evening so that they don't kill her children. I'm sorry to have to talk like that but this is where real men need to come in and and go hey women you're under Stockholm syndrome stop wearing the mask stop going along with your captors this is BS. Yikes. Yeah there was a look on your face like maybe halfway through that I think right about at the blowjob point. The blowjob part really got me that one got me that one was like wow really gonna do it huh really going for it. I really really enjoy the I'm sorry I have to talk like this. Oh yeah no no no that's that's what I would say he could illustrate this point that is inaccurate and dumb but he could illustrate
Starting point is 00:45:11 that point without the blowjob. You know what's ironic. That's very unnecessary. What's ironic is his description of Stockholm syndrome in this case works but almost in the opposite that he's like Stockholm syndrome actually describes the phenomenon where you're trapped as the case in Stockholm that it started from. You're trapped with people who are in your socioeconomic status and then the cops are evil and you are like oh I get it but in this situation his way of getting women out of Stockholm syndrome is to walk up to them scream you're in Stockholm syndrome get out of there wake up you idiots which would suggest that they should stay where they are with the people who are not screaming at them. Yeah I do think there's a couple things first I don't know if
Starting point is 00:46:00 Stockholm syndrome is even a real thing but it's not absolutely not. It describes the phenomenon of cops being assholes. Second Alex seems to be saying that women are weak and they are susceptible to the Stockholm syndrome because they want to give blowjobs to centurions to protect their children. Can't wait. Now I think that his solution to this is we need to control we need to aggressively threaten women to do what we want them to do. It does seem like that is his solution. I think that's bad. It's probably not. You know you catch more flies with screaming in their faces that they're lied to. So Alex believes that this is the end my friend. This is the end of everything perhaps because he owes a lot of money soon. It's gonna be fast. Yeah but he likes
Starting point is 00:46:51 to bring up this metaphor of like you know it's we're about to get pulled into riptide right. We're about to get sucked underwater. Yeah so what you need to do is take a big breath of air and that's what he's all about. He's all about telling people get a deep breath in. Sure right. Yeah and then there's some bad stuff. Some more predictions of what's to come. Oh that's not good and it's my job before they cut off all the communications after a stage cyber attack or a real war they're about to start. Wait. They get as many people as informed so they know what's going on. It's kind of like you're out in the ocean you're getting a riptide you feel it sucking you under. Get a breath and then don't fight it once it pulls you under statistically it's
Starting point is 00:47:31 going to pop you back out in 30 seconds a minute or two. Just hold your breath relax don't fight you're going to pop right back out but I'm not saying don't fight them physically they do this it's an analogy so you're just like oh gosh okay I'm going to fight this okay oh that popped me out in five seconds that wasn't too bad. Lots of people just shaking around in it that then panic and get the water down their throat. Now I'm just here telling everybody get your deep breath get your deep breath get your deep breath. I mean they may launch a nuclear attack and say the Russians did it. I mean they want us dead they want us out of the way they've made the decision and the fact that they've rolled ahead with this bio attack means they could do anything
Starting point is 00:48:14 and that's really why the senators aren't fighting them. The senators have got their emergency exit plans during martial law they've got their underground base cards and of course once they get them in those bases they're going to kill them all the whole COG system so this is just the end of everything it's and so everybody else can rearrange deck chairs in the titanic and everybody else can you know pretend like oh the liberals are just out of control or no. Okay so maybe there will be a fake cyber attack right or maybe a real war right maybe they'll nuke us again another nuke prediction yeah then they'll blame it on Russia right and then they'll get all the senators into their underground bases that they all have access to yeah but it's all just a trap to kill them
Starting point is 00:48:56 within their underground bases right to what end I'm not sure is there an end well yeah I think so and that is because once the shit pops off right senators become dukes yeah see that's what I'm dukes and they always become dukes and duchesses yeah that's right they have to kill them off lest they control uh parcels of land I would like I would like insight into the conversation if we're down to two options one of which is staged cyber attack and the others a real war right who's on the like I know we could stage a cyber attack be super easy no one would die I mean a few people because you know you know pacemakers but that's we're evil so we're fine with that or we could kill billions in a real war which do you want to go with I feel like that
Starting point is 00:49:44 conversation is a lot easier well but you don't understand how evil the globalists are and how much they like to kill people that's true love to kill people but also are putting a heart attack medication in the vaccine to stop people from having a heart attacks when they get it okay great right all right okay so dumb all right um so alex seems pretty mad um I wonder if you can guess what he's mad about oh man I just don't it has to do with the executive branch uh oh boy Dan I'm gonna go with the build back better act no oh I'm gonna go with uh other legislation that's being proposed you you might I'm gonna go with real consequential and important information see I think that your first instinct would be to think that it was that he's
Starting point is 00:50:31 mad that Kamala Harris would take over uh for a while while Joe Biden was under no no no I wouldn't think that because that would be that would it would require somebody so racist to ignore how meaningless it is no no no but there's bigger issues okay uh Pete Buttigieg had a baby notice whether it's the New York Times or CBS news they all cropped it to not show an American flag now we look at that and go look what a commie he is look what a trader he is but you know the every photo is him with just that flag and and why do they do that it's talking about Biden yeah because they're now gonna get ready to get rid of him he's served his usefulness now they're like oh we gotta have Kamala and Buddha judge hey Buddha judge had a baby his husband laid in the hospital
Starting point is 00:51:18 bed thought you were so dumb they put you know put on hospital scrubs and lay in a bed look we had a baby uh part of the brainwashing it's it's some kid they got from somebody else I mean I oh here we are with our wait multi-month old baby you just had it you know men have babies all the gas lighting all of it the mind control all of the control oh it's okay if Biden steps down because Buddha judge is gay oh my gosh but he had that on his resume oh my gosh I mean can can I be vice president I tell you what I'm gay too folks I need to be vice president now you know like Tim Cook is to run death camps worst in the world on record worst factories in the world suicide nets forced abortion 16 18 hour work days forced drugging of the slaves people living in container but it's
Starting point is 00:52:09 all right Tim Cook is what what's the answer g a y anywhere's a black turtleneck wow so one thing that's important to remember about the context of this clip is that that was not actually Ric Flair um dating back 15 17 years even yeah yeah Alex has a conspiracy theory that the child protective service is trying to take away straight people's children to give them to gay couples right so when you hear him talk about that he's very against a gay adoption yes yeah yeah and so this this is painfully homophobic oh it's incredibly homophobic the other thing I want to bring up here is does Alex really think that the reason that the working conditions and apple factories isn't more tightly regulated is because Tim Cook is gay like that's dumb and deeply homophobic
Starting point is 00:53:08 too like it's obviously a function of industry more than no no no because we can't regulate capitalism because it because I feel like you're saying that this might be a result of unregulated capitalism right and I think you're wrong this is the uh it's because gay people can get adoptions and they get away with anything does he think that we think that they are telling us they actually had a baby I don't know because it sounded like he thinks that they have brainwashed us into us thinking I don't know man they really had a baby I don't know because a man had a baby I don't know because it sounds like he that's what he's saying I think it's close but I I don't know man I just think he's really angry gay people I mean yes but that's the problem I but I just all of what he
Starting point is 00:53:59 said just boil it down to just be like I hate gay people because otherwise it sounds like you're mad at a scattershot nonsense barrage yeah I mean it what he's saying doesn't make sense if you believe him to be tolerant yes exactly it all makes sense yes if you just recognize that he's a bigot oh you're a massive bigot okay got you so Alex isn't a guy back on the show by the name of Steve Kersh uh I don't know if you remember this guy he's an inventor uh he invented like InfoSeek the uh oh yeah yeah yeah I remember him now yeah yeah also is entirely convinced that Gavin Newsom was paralyzed by a vaccine he was we we talked to him about he's doubling down on this so Alex is going to have him back on to do that okay good coming up we've got some of the videos of Newsom
Starting point is 00:54:46 and his face looking partially paralyzed as sources it said but that usually goes away in about two weeks and also that his children aren't vaccinated Steve Kersh has written about that as well on his sub stack account but I wanted to hit just all this cardiac news and information coming out first but yeah that photo there you can really see that that looks he does look paralyzed it is different doesn't he has the dimple on the other side not on that side really dramatic so there was a video going around that purported to show one side of Gavin Newsom's face drooping thus proving that the vaccine gave him like bells palsy yeah they got him video was edited it was just manipulated by someone who credits themselves as a digital artist oh good it's fake uh the real version before
Starting point is 00:55:27 editing is widely available even on Newsom's own twitter page yeah uh in terms of the cardiac stuff that they're talking about it's all just stuff that he's misrepresenting Vera's data on it's not even worth responding to again but this is kind of fun Steve is sad oh no no one will debate him oh no this is a complete disaster these vaccines are you know should not be given to anyone under any circumstances any age any comorbidity the evidence just doesn't support that and nobody seems to want to debate me on this I have tried to debate anyone in the medical community I'll do any you know because they accuse me of spreading misinformation but nobody wants to debate me that's the best way to silence me is to debate me nobody no nobody in mainstream academia nobody in
Starting point is 00:56:15 the cdc nobody in the fda they all want to just ignore everything I'm saying because they don't want to confront what's going on unfortunately you're not in any of those groups that uh Steve is it does seem that I ring to yeah but I would say that the reason they don't want to debate him is because he's a weirdo yeah yeah is someone do you don't want to be seen within public maybe yeah you don't want to get into the mud with this this kind of idiot I wouldn't do it no I mean I would do it but if I was one of them I wouldn't do it totally you know if that's why I'm not one of them yes and why you'd be open to exactly so Steve and Alex are talking about this the the vaccine and they're saying like it's going to be such a disaster for the medical community
Starting point is 00:57:03 and no one will ever trust them again right and the mainstream media no one will ever trust them but they realize we've had the vaccine for months months and months and people are plenty of people are not dead that's true yeah but I want to focus on this part of this okay so they're talking about like the the trust is going to be completely gone no one's going to trust the medical community or the mainstream media ever again because of the the whole charade of the vaccine sure right sure I don't understand why they're bringing that up they don't want people to trust the mainstream media that's exactly what they want that's a good point it's really dumb for them to be all like oh no people won't believe you anymore exactly the outcome I rely on to make money that's fucking
Starting point is 00:57:56 stupid listen to this nonsense okay I saw one FDA more remember a few months ago saying in a quote of course they got off the board saying you're going to destroy belief in the credibility of vaccines for generations I mean if you actually wanted to destroy medicine you'd act like this oh yeah absolutely and that's exactly what they're doing but it's not just in vaccines people are not going to believe their doctors anymore right that's that that's what's going to come out of this they're not going to believe the doctors they're not going to believe anything that congress says they're not going to believe anything that the mainstream media says and they're not going to believe any of the three letter agencies the FDA the CDC and the NIH that's what's
Starting point is 00:58:35 going to come out of this those are all positive outcomes for alex that's exactly what he's always wanted because he said you should never trust them in the first place exactly and you shouldn't trust doctors you should get this zinc and iodine and shit the supplements you'll be fine just take vitamins yeah I was gonna say all of this is exactly what alex would want and it's uh a little weird I just here's my I want an itemized list of what they do trust doctors on now like they clearly they trust them on like uh cancer right no just rub some dirt on it okay you're fine or like like I I mean I don't know there are diseases and shit that are unquestioned by these people right they would maybe a broken arm yeah broken arm they somebody will set their broken arm
Starting point is 00:59:21 for him right yeah the splint but why is that okay and not you know it's like it's all or nothing if you think that the medical establishment is murdering you mm-hmm you can't be like well I mean if they give me the vaccine they'll murder me but obviously if I broke my leg I need to go get my leg yeah you think they're not creative enough to figure out a way to kill you with a broken leg exactly you can get a oh we gotta give you this painkiller isn't your dad these doctors are evil and they've been doing it for a long time they can kill you with a toenail yeah you should never problem you should never go to the hospital for anything yeah yeah I just think it's a little silly for them to pretend that they have any investment at all in people having faith or trust
Starting point is 01:00:00 listen authoritative sources government agencies it's their business is to erode that trust no Dan there's nothing they want more than to be rendered obsolete by a mainstream media performing exactly their duties they want to live in a society where everyone is comfortable and there's no bullshit flying around that people are profiting off of heavily I just want honesty yeah so speaking of bullshit here's steve disqualifying himself as someone you should listen to okay how do you look at the data on this because I'm not as technical as you I just read all these articles and studies where people six months after the Pfizer shot especially to take the booster they then get negative immunity meaning before the shot they had better immunity than after they had it six
Starting point is 01:00:46 months later that doesn't sound like a very good product to me yeah if you look on the expose website they have some graphs they did some really nice graphs showing vaccine efficacy waning so you get the vaccine it appears to work for just a little while and then it goes down to zero and then it goes negative which means you're more likely to be infected if you get the vaccine amazing we talked about this on a previous episode this is a doctored set of information yeah so if he's somebody who would find that to be compelling and not look into it a little bit further not recognize that this information has been manipulated yeah very transparently yeah I don't think I'm going to trust him on much I mean if you give me
Starting point is 01:01:31 any graph that clearly has whiteout on it because there's a section you didn't want me to see oh wait this is crossed out exactly you didn't even hide it you just use a fucking permanent marker then you're done yeah you don't you don't ever get to get listened to again yeah yeah and among the many sins of that expose a article is that the person who put it together did take out lines of data that didn't work for his argument yeah and that that is disqualifying that it would be it would be like if somebody asked you for like some accounting information and you didn't want them to know the full accounting information so you took the let's at random the quickbooks file right and then gave it to another person no one would do that talk to the information
Starting point is 01:02:22 so if you're not convinced by this expose a thing right but you shouldn't be yeah and you're not convinced by the fake video of Gavin Newsom's face super not convinced maybe you will be convinced okay by Steve having 17 pieces of details and information let's start getting into news right a big article about that saying Newsom's lying there's vaccine injury in here you can prove it yeah so look i've got 17 different sources um there's 17 different pieces of evidence and they're all consistent with the hypothesis that Gavin Newsom is vaccine injured so i went to his sub-stack which i should say he's heavily promoting on this appearance oh yeah i imagine so i think that's the game yeah um but i found his article Gavin Newsom is lying about his
Starting point is 01:03:10 vaccine injury okay and here he has his list of uh points 17 no it's grown to 19 what is he only do prime numbers must okay so i think it was probably like oh this is gonna get QAnon excited it's 17 oh shit better add a few more so here's the first one quote his kids were in school on november 1st through 3rd during the climate meeting when he was supposed to be there so what was his excuse for not attending by zoom it couldn't be to be a good dad since his kids weren't home so what was it why didn't he explain it on november 1st why do we still not know how come none of the fact checkers ask this question could it be the fact checkers are biased oh or could it be that you never looked for the answers to that question i don't know so here's
Starting point is 01:03:55 number three quote alex jones reported his sources confirmed that his sources observed doctors were going in and out of his house during the period that gavin was out of sight so one of his pieces of evidence is a second hand account of third hand information from alex and now he's using this article to make an argument on alex's show that relies on evidence that he got from alex you know that or a boros of far right beliefs i'm i'm just impenetrable quote this is number eight quote gavin had his bad side away from the camera when he appeared the lighting was poor and the focus was bad and the shots were long here's number nine quote we never saw him walk on camera during his first public appearance after the recovery period okay here's number 12 quote
Starting point is 01:04:42 multiple twitter postings suggested bell's palsy or gig on beret syndrome just multiple twitter posts suggested that i don't know what that means oh it just means multiple twitter posts suggested that that's a piece of evidence sure here's number 18 quote clearly i'm not the only one with suspicions here and then there's a hyperlink to check out this meme page i i want to see that episode of colombo where he's like just one more thing check out this meme page have you seen this meme page here's the here's the last one there's some people who tweeted saying you did it here's the last one on his list it's over 19 quote i have more but it would compromise sources what no that's not a detail no it's the absence of a detail it's an explanation for why you don't have a detail
Starting point is 01:05:31 that's not fair no this is a really stupid list oh man i want to go back to all those 1920s drawing room now we get all the suspects together and solve this together in the same room around the dinner table i want that but with this level of information i want it to be like and there he's steely dan over there he jumped up tide and then we saw somebody from another town over who met a friend of his over there who said that maybe one time you did it yeah i think this steve kurges more hastings than paro let's say yeah let's go that way uh he does not have his little gray sails working uh this is bad oh boy so you don't have to believe steve and i don't um but he has another reason why he's still right okay i'm now at the stage where i'm willing to risk some money
Starting point is 01:06:22 to prove a point all right so i'm willing to i'm now willing to risk as of yesterday um i just put on an offer to say gavin i'm willing to bet you a million dollars that you're a liar so i'm risking a million dollars you don't have to believe me at all in my analysis in what the evidence showed all you have to believe is that there's some millionaire who is willing to risk a million dollars that he's right so he probably thinks he's right and i can guarantee you gavin knew some is not going to take my bet no way no shit ah wow yeah what a great bet yeah the governor of california is not going to dignify this bullshit uh yeah i'm going to take all million dollar bets from now on anybody want to bet me anything for a million dollars this was on november
Starting point is 01:07:10 16th he's saying this and this got bumped up to five million and then on november 18th this is an update on his uh his sub stack all right quote i've raised my offer to name your price in a private email to jennifer newson no response so far wow unlimited money for a blank piece of paper i'm impressed we'd make the guinness book of world records for highest price ever paid for a blank piece of paper oh my god he sent kevin newson's wife an email he's harassing family members now i'll give you any amount of money wow you know what in order to debate me in order to disbelieve this you would have to have an operating premise with i i mean i'm sure no evidence that rich people are willing to blow a lot of money on stupid ideas you would have to believe something so insane
Starting point is 01:08:02 that no one could ever believe that a rich person would blow their money on a stupid thing never oh boy so uh we have one last clip here and it's uh it's uh steve explaining exactly how this bet would go okay and as you're listening to this imagine imagine a world where a sitting governor would engage with this bullshit these are the steps that are going to if if the bet is taken this is how it will play out yeah i just imagine a governor of california deciding i'm going to get involved with this we're getting some great fanfic that's what i'm hearing okay here we go this is so dumb i'm offering him million dollars all he has to do is give me a piece of paper that lists all the doctors that he talked to since um for the purposes of discussing vaccine
Starting point is 01:08:54 injury from the time that he got vaccinated to 21 days later i don't want to know anything else that's it just the list of doctors and on that piece of paper is the permission that he grants to those doctors and he orders those doctors to discuss with me any conversations relating to vaccine injury now if gavin newsom is telling the truth he'll give me a blank sheet of paper and i will give him a check for a million dollars now to me that's a deal that most people shouldn't refuse he's revealing nothing about any of his personal medical information the piece of paper is blank and he gets a check for a million dollars and you've got you're a well-known you know uh the tech guy you've got
Starting point is 01:09:43 plenty of money so what's stopping him well what's stopping is him is he's not telling the truth and that's why he won't accept my bet because when he if he's telling the truth he's going to hand me a piece of paper that is not blank and if the piece of paper isn't blank you know immediately that he lied to people so basically not engaging with this stupid bet is proof for steve that he's right yeah and that's ridiculous uh and and essentially you know the reason you'd never take talk to even even talk to this guy yeah because what he's doing is essentially engaging in blackmail but without leverage yep it's like yeah because if you do give him a blank piece of paper that's not going to be the end of it no in the same way that if you give into the
Starting point is 01:10:33 demands of a blackmailer they're going to continue the blackmailing relationship yeah it's not like we're done right yeah this is going to be a thing where oh you've given me a blank piece of paper but what if i were to tell you i know you saw a doctor it's it's fucking stupid yeah it's it's pointless to engage with this nonsense but it plays for pr stuff in the right wing media you know like you can say oh if you if his conscience was clean you'd have no problem i give him a million dollars sure sure sure what's what's fun about that is that even a reasonable like conservative who buys into this as being a good idea would never take that bet it's a stupid person who's like oh you're gonna pay up one yeah you're not no and two there's no strings attached to this
Starting point is 01:11:20 sure right sure you fucking liar yeah it even it's so weird that they'll believe it in the abstract but in the in the personal they would never believe that no and even best case scenario it's still not good like okay you got a million dollars but you had to publicly engage and justify and sort of give credibility to someone like steve as being worth your time and engagement oh yeah and that alone is publicity that steve couldn't buy yep for his substack yeah which is why he would never accept it from somebody who doesn't have that to offer him you know he's never going to accept this bet from somebody from the cdc or the fda because why would he they're not going to give him the juice right but if it's a nuesome or if it's somebody on tv or if it's somebody like that
Starting point is 01:12:09 who he can turn it into a spectacle around then of course yeah that's what he's going to do and he's not going to pay up on that fucking back probably not but maybe i mean he's conceivably quite rich uh yeah and he's also insane clearly it does seem that way yeah so yeah so this episode was uh gross in a number of ways um i think i think you know you see you see a lot of pretty explicit uh chauvinism uh homophobia oh boy uh just just outright bigotry all over the place just really ticking those boxes yeah yeah yeah yeah um and it sucks it's hard to believe why people want him off the air dan yeah it's hard it's hard to understand why people would be like you gotta go go away uh anyway uh jordan we'll be back uh for another episode in the near future
Starting point is 01:13:01 but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yes we are also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl rundus and now here comes the sex robot andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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