Knowledge Fight - #621: Reset Wars: Episode 1

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan examine a bit of a preview interview about the big new project, Reset Wars.  In this installment, the gents meet a promotion-obsessed hypnotist who thinks it's impossible to die... and who helped Alex create Reset Wars. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge and your knowledge fight need money andy and tanzas andy and tanzas andy and tanzas andy and tanzas andy and tanzas andy and tanzas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex and mr simcollon i'm a huge fan i love your word knowledge fight hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight i'm dan i'm jordan where a couple dudes like to sit around worship the altar of selene and talk a little bit about alex junes oh indeed we are dan jordan dan jordan quick question for you so what's your bright spot ice cream sandwiches
Starting point is 00:01:12 what's yours uh my bright spot is the day after thanksgiving i got to see my family it's great moving on i like ice cream sandwiches quite a bit they've been making a resurgence in my life yeah uh yes i have the especially the ones that are like cookies like chocolate chip cookies oh yeah yeah yeah whoo oh those are the devil yeah you take a big bite of one of those and you're like this is too much for me and then you go right back in for it and you get a second yeah and then you go i gotta go back in there yeah i'm spelunking into this ice cream sandwich and i'm glad that you had a nice time on the day after thanksgiving uh black friday do you guys go shopping no good god note no we didn't get together on the day right we got together the day after and uh for me like
Starting point is 00:01:54 this was the first family thanksgiving did your did your parents have a lot of like questions about the episode we put out on friday no no no but it almost went south when they started asking about squid games and i was like it's capital and then it all went south you should just be like damn thought it was dumb that would have been the way better yeah way better route anytime we need to talk about squid game just my thoughts which i've regaled you with that length yes yeah i'll just play them that part yeah uh yeah so it was great uh but yeah you were saying it was the first oh yeah yeah yeah um the my my that thanksgiving was my aunt's holiday like every year for my entire life i was at her table at one o'clock and then this was the first thanksgiving since she
Starting point is 00:02:35 had died and my mom clearly felt that uh so she put everything she could into the into the lunch putting this bread together she was like this is this has got to be if this sucks that we're all going to be like remembering a tooty and then it was going to be shit the the absence will be felt yeah a hole there and too much and she did a fantastic job oh that's great a great job great job this is the only podcast she should listen to and then she should turn it off right now too many times like that story goes the other way is like someone trying to uh step up and then it just completely uh falls apart oh she added this sweet potato thing with uh walnuts on top of it and you could feel the nervous the palpable like should i have added
Starting point is 00:03:21 anything to energy to her it was amazing isn't it weird that people have sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top so gross anyway gross next jordan uh on our last episode we talked about november 23rd and um i almost said blackjack yeah there was a bit of the reset wars yes going on yeah yeah yeah and i am not too proud uh to admit that i think i might have been wrong about some stuff uh oh i think i might have made some hasty assumptions okay and we're going to talk about a bunch of that today uh as we what we're going to do is we're going to begin our exploration of reset wars okay um the actual videos i don't think are out yet his actual like 11 hour course or whatever the sure sure sure um but on the 23rd in the third and fourth
Starting point is 00:04:13 hour of the show alex interviewed jake ducey who is his partner in reset wars right the two of them worked on this together and so what we're going to do is we're going to talk about this interview right as a sort of prelude to uh whenever reset wars comes out so we're preset wars yes pre pre cooking preset in the oven or whatever the fuck yeah absolutely um and this will be an ongoing series as we get more this is reset wars episode one a new hope oh no no wait what's episode one uh the phantom menace yeah this is the phantom menace oh boy this this but from what i've heard this will be the phantom menace um yeah that's actually a fitting title yeah anyway uh we'll get down to business on this but before we do let's say hello to some new walks oh that's a great idea
Starting point is 00:05:01 so first andre from the pod thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much andre thank you next communist revolution in the sheets thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much i i i like that because it's a play on gary allen's book communist revolution in the streets right right but it's also it does leave me wondering what are you in the in the streets if you're a communist revolution i mean i would say an anarcho capitalist uh nightmare in the streets i guess that would be uh how the the the saying would work yeah also we got a technocrat in the mix so see more insight thank you so much you're now a technocrat i'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k
Starting point is 00:05:43 doing bro all right we got to go full tilt buggy on this watch and all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why are you pimp so good my my neck is freakishly large i declare info war on you thank you so much see more insight yes thank you very much so now jordan let's get down to business we're we're in the the 23rd of november right uh 2021 blackjack oh you son of a bitch and we're in the third hour alex is bringing on jake doozy to talk about the wonders of reset wars right uh here's his introduction okay this broadcast this transmission this human expression of freedom was not supposed to be on air right now we're supposed to already be off air we're supposed to roll over like everybody else the
Starting point is 00:06:29 globalist enslaved and dumbed down and killed but that's not been happening well good friend of mine jake doozy's here and he is a very well-known best-selling author and also does so many other you know great works out there but he's really helped me in my research and with everything we're doing with the launch of the next level of the info war which is reset wars dot com because we were sympatico because i helped wake him up you know decades ago and his dad's a big fan and the rest of it so here's the first thing that you need to know about jake doozy and it's something that alex is conspicuously leaving out of his uh his introduction he's a hypnotist okay yes all right he is a professional hypnotist okay okay he's basically a new age type power of attraction
Starting point is 00:07:13 preaching self-help con artist kind of guy his blog and website are just full of the most flagrant clickbait titles for articles mocha most of which circle around ideas related to the secret and the law of attraction oh boy for those unfamiliar with this whole self-help craze from about a decade ago the secret is basically about how you can manifest anything you want into your life and the reason you have bad things in your life is because you're subconsciously attracting those things to you with negative thinking the basic idea is to force yourself to have positive thoughts about things like money your job or people you're attracted to and magically the universe will bring those things that you want to you bars of gold your dream job and the partner
Starting point is 00:07:50 of your dreams could all be yours and it'll be super easy if you just got out of your own way you know it's crazy is that everybody i knew who followed that secret it worked ten years ago worked perfectly they're all billionaires it's like bitcoin like i wish i had gotten in on the secret then i'm too late it's too expensive yeah yeah it's too high so legitimately some of the titles of the posts on his blog and these videos are creepy and kind of sad quote make them miss you make someone's peg to be with you quote how to attract money effectively and manifest it quickly honey uh quote say this for instant financial breakthrough bees there are a lot of videos about how to magically make money fly towards you and a bunch about how you can make people want to
Starting point is 00:08:33 have sex with you which isn't surprising since those are two really visceral targets for conmen to exploit in people poverty and loneliness yeah and it treats the person that you're attracted to as a thing yeah and that's pretty cool that's really attractive yeah certain type of people scrolling through his youtube channel i got a very quick and clear impression this guy is repetitive as hell and he loves clickbait it's just constant thumbnails of him holding up hundred dollar bills with titles like quote say this to receive unexpected money in one day or less or quote i manifested a hundred thousand dollars per month he also has some videos teaching telepathy it's all just clickbait garbage which is exactly what online marketing experts tell you you need to do if you
Starting point is 00:09:12 want to increase traffic artificially when you don't have good content man bring back the guy wearing the green suit with money on it saying that you can get free money from the government if you buy this book i want that guy back i'm saying this without having looked into it too much but it's my understanding that that guy actually did have ways you could get money from the government yeah yeah i would grant money it's not proposals and shit like that but yeah it's not it's not manifesting it that was actually a book of like well here's a loan you can apply for that was a book of paperwork yeah yeah so i get an intensely bad vibe off jake ducey even more so than your run of the mill hypnotist scam person jake also has a podcast on i heart called jake ducey's second
Starting point is 00:09:55 mine podcast i believe the second mine thing is about your subconscious mind how it's one creating all the energy fields and all that the tracks or repels tons of money and attractive people most of the episodes are 10 minutes long and about how to attract money the most recent episode appears to be titled quote easily manifest more money fast with the law of attraction about a week before that he had an episode titled quote three most powerful secrets to attract more money fast about a week before that he had an episode titled quote shocking money technique made me a million dollars at the end of february he had one called quote do this hypnosis for money listen every day to become a millionaire in 2021 and the last uh and this last one is part of what really troubles
Starting point is 00:10:38 me about jake he seems really anxious to hypnotize people he's jumping at the bit to hypnotize people seems like he's really eager to hypnotize people on his website his bio reads quote when i began to uncover how the unconscious mind works i went from a 19 year old with a self-published book to a best-selling author in just a few years i want to give you this success hypnosis that changed it all totally free just click below all right so this is a supervillains plan you realize that to to like innocuously attract enough people to hypnotize all of them at the same time in order to get them to do your bidding there are overlaps so on his homepage there's a link to something he sells called the second mind neuro programmer great which is apparently meditation and visualization
Starting point is 00:11:28 exercises that claim to be able to quote rewire your brain to attract abundance look i'm all for meditation and i even i'm fine with some fairly new agey stuff but when you take a person like this and also combine all that with he's coming out of nowhere to collaborate with alex jones at exactly the point where alex is completely desperate and his life is falling apart you have what i would consider a gigantic red flag yeah this could be a short-lived collaboration but i'm really really honestly worried about this alex's site reset wars apparently was something that jake had a big hand in and alex is promoting it as the most important work he's ever done which makes it not feel like a small blip on the radar and then you add it to this on jake's homepage right at the top
Starting point is 00:12:12 he offers to help you rewire your mind quote how would you like to hit the reset button and rewire your mind reset wars okay he doesn't see reset wars on the site sure sure sure sure his primary selling line is how would you like to hit the reset button okay operating theory he is a super villain i have a number of theories i don't think super villain is one of them okay um regular villain awkums razor tells me that alex is incredibly desperate for money jake is a rich online marketing scam guy yep and he has now bought access to alex's audience yeah that sounds about right yeah that seems to be with the simplest explanation of all this is yeah and that's really terrifying because alex has left these people very vulnerable to someone who has a gift
Starting point is 00:13:00 of manipulation sure sure hypnosis techniques that he really wants to use on people yeah for free yeah you know at the same time though this is the time period of the con man narcissist to life where he does get conned you know like he's at his lowest point alex yeah alex is it's entirely possible for alex to be getting conned right now like on a real level right i thought about that because like as i was listening to this interview i'm like has he hypnotized alex like is that what's and i don't think that's the case because alex seems a little bit frustrated by him okay okay i don't i don't know if there's necessarily a like a whole lot of we really like each other right right right right for one thing you'll notice uh jake will not stop plugging reset wars he's
Starting point is 00:13:49 like alex does a lot of plugging sure jake is embarrassing okay he constantly is telling people go to reset wars sign up for it you're like oh boy hey everything every road leads back to that plug to a point where even alex is like this is a little much so oh my god we've reached the event horizon of a black hole yeah where alex is telling someone they're being a little too thirsty nothing is coming out of this hole it's emitting a i'm fucking einstein radiation arcing radiation it's so awful yeah so i think i think that there's there's something troubling about this association that the two of them have um i also think that some of the ideas that are going to be expressed over the course of this episode are really troubling things to combine with alex's world
Starting point is 00:14:38 right right maybe some of them are metaphorically things that you know maybe could have some self-empowering application sure but when combined with the info war right right right it's a little dangerous yeah yeah it is a little bit like combining the secret and terrorism to give you the secret of terrorism which is not a good thing that you want to read about nope nope so alex takes forever to introduce jake we want you to know what's going on the enemy knows what's going on they just want to keep you the dark and enslave you i'm not interested in farms of slaves that i can fly over and laugh at you because i feel big you not being empowered makes me feel like crap you understand how that works so so i want to see you fly like a birdie because i'm connected to you
Starting point is 00:15:23 and you're connected to me and i have children in this world that are going to live with your children and i have ancestors that lived with your ancestors you got it i'm an individual i'm my own soul but i'm connected to you and when stuff happens to you it hurts me you understand i'm not a satanist i'm the opposite i'm not all about me i'm not all about how i've got power over people i want you to have power you understand that that's what i want unlimited consciousness and the enemy knows we have that fire in our hands and jake ducey's here let's talk about it but to understand the good fire you've got to understand the bag i'd like to be very clear that my ancestors did not hang out with alex's ancestors because his ancestors were fighting for the confederacy
Starting point is 00:16:09 and mine were menonites i was just i was just i just wrote down confederate royalty and uh historically if you are that connected to your ancestors you are very interested in farms with slaves that is one of your top interests it's up there yeah that's way up to protect yeah exactly um yep so today on this uh interview that alex is doing they're going to look at the bad you know because sometimes in order to deal with the good to accept the good you got to look at the bad every clear eye evaluation today we're going to look at the bad and it's covered some in the six plus hour transmission that's coming out in early december but i wanted to just get jake here to talk about this so that you understand some of the research
Starting point is 00:16:53 that went into this i mean most people don't sit around and read 800 pages of declassified mk ultra files i read them decades ago he just recently read them again we just recently the last few days went back over them and i want you to understand that when you see reset wars you think well this is just never heard this in church never heard this on the two news because they don't want you to know this because then they can enslave you but when you read the cia documents and then you see what we're doing you'll understand this is the opposite this is how they did it now now there is a there isn't there is one little evil shadow to this but that's the problem with knowledge it's because it's it's good and evil it's it's pretty well because somebody take this
Starting point is 00:17:30 knowledge and use it to enslave people yeah they already have so just as we done by the heavens fall they want to talk about the knowledge of good and evil well the good don't know about the evil so now we're here exposing how they operate what's going on cool so i got excited at this point because i thought like all right we're going to talk a whole bunch about mk ultra seems like it and i've read a lot of those documents that alex is referring to conspiracy theorists like them they do yeah um and historians like them or at least in terms of being able to shed light on some atrocious things that our government has done yep um i think that the there is a difference between a clear eyed sober view of the historical monstrosity of the mk ultra program right right
Starting point is 00:18:17 and what conspiracy theories believe it to be right i think that there is a difference and i was really excited to discuss some of that difference but unfortunately i over prepared for that and it really doesn't matter yeah that sounds about right that sounds about right to the conversation that we're going to have drugging people without their knowledge bad very much so yeah drugging people without their knowledge and eating babies non-existent didn't happen and drugging people with their knowledge fine fine we wouldn't have had sometimes a great notion without it so alex brings up jake finally introduces him and he gives one of his credits is that he's from reset wars so that that's that's pretty telling non-existent thing so spend five minutes before we go to
Starting point is 00:18:59 break and come back over the main meat of this current admissions what's going on the actual documents and then what's coming next with jay ducey from reset wars dot com jake yeah what i say is we're all part of this massive mk ultra experiment that is society and i've had the honor to actually go through six times and watch alex's brand new course that's coming out here real soon if you are a fan of alex for your family for wars this is the next level because the way that the great reset officially is accomplished is by trapping us into subconscious patterns convincing us we're just these little bodies and using everyday mind control weapons that they have and alex breaks down an 11 step process exactly how to break out of that so everyone open up another
Starting point is 00:19:44 browser go to reset wars dot com right now that's the first of his 2000 calls yeah yeah and they're always calls to action they're always open a browser sure as opposed to just like you should check it out he knows is he knows his marketing he's taking online marketing classes oh yeah for sure oh yeah um so yeah this is good i'm not happy i feel like we're off to a bad start we are the moment we say everyday mind control weapons that suggests that there are some mind control weapons that we haven't even some boutique yeah yeah like what are these everyday mind control weapons that's what i want to know more about and i thought that maybe he was being a little fanciful um and metaphorical by saying that like society is an mk ultra experiment yeah yeah he's not no he means
Starting point is 00:20:32 that quite literally no i am taking him literal for everything you should that is i decided that before i sat down in this chair yep so he i mean this drifts really quickly into what sounds like cult shit sure but here's the thing new just learning all the news isn't gonna how we're gonna be able to change it how we're gonna be able to change it is when we finally pattern ourselves we learn how the mind control works we erase it and then we tap in to that real spiritual power that they don't want us to know about so it's reset wars dot com and that's the real power right that's what they don't want us to know so there's the d d patterning yourself you got to re program yourself sure sure sure sure which is what he's been selling on his website
Starting point is 00:21:14 for you know a while right at least right all right so now he's just going to advertise through info wars basically yeah yeah you gotta reset you gotta settle things down yeah get into it boy that's a familiar tone uh that you hear quite a bit in uh shady groups no no no no no you just need to come in here put your hands on this machine and tell me all of the things that you've never told anyone else before you can trust me you need to deconstruct yourself right you need to completely destroy absolutely and you need to do it using my program of course in fact when you're done destroying yourself maybe i'm the only person left i will be there to help put you back together and i promise i'm not gonna do things that are it would never do that manipulative or
Starting point is 00:22:01 weird come on so um uh we got alex chiming in here so it's reset wars dot com and that's the real power right that's what they don't want us to know and we address it from their perspective which is actually real they understand there's the real us that we were born with that god gave us our soul they create a facsimile and then erase the real us but the real us is still there they erase the real us template or interfacing with the universe we're going to show the cia documents coming up okay this is getting really scary at this point like i know that there's some overlap here with stuff that alex gets into from time to time on his show but the vibe is going in a very different and very unnerving direction even immediately in this interview alex has met this self help
Starting point is 00:22:43 con man hypnotist and now he's made this 11 step program to save yourself from the globalists which he worked on with the hypnotist and is the most important work he's ever done this doesn't sit right with me and the prospect of alex's terrorist edging and constant violent preoccupation being combined with vague aspirational pseudo spirituality that's dancing around the idea that you're not yourself is absolutely terrifying i kept trying to suspend judgment as i was listening to this but it's really really impossible you know a lot of people think that uh combining religion with uh terrorism is a bad idea because you know you get that feeling of like i will be rewarded for these acts of horrific terror yeah right now that's that's terrifying but what if
Starting point is 00:23:29 you were already dead in your own mind had no fear whatsoever and were willing to blindly follow what anyone told you uh that's not a problem it's a bad combination people should be worried about this this development is bad this is not good so jake wants to explain to everybody how we live state farm no i wish because that guy's a good neighbor he's good name we exist on three planes we exist on the physical the mental emotional and the spiritual the emotional control grid is all the craziness happening in the world lock us into fear lock us into anchor lock us into our lower consciousness our lower emotions and that's the simulation right zuckerberg's creating the metaverse but we're already in a simulation and that's how the whole control system works and that's what
Starting point is 00:24:14 fascinated me about your work is once i went into the declassified documents what shrugged me more than anything was wow we live in a simulation all of reality is controlled through subconscious patterning they already know this and i thought to myself well what happens if i literally reprogram my entire mind if i literally program everything i erase all the viruses and reset wars you you you taught you liken the mind to an operating system the programs the viruses it's the fake identity this is not good oh boy very very bad stuff to see on info wars oh yeah this goddamn show is supposed to be about the communists being evil and the un secretly being run by commies who are also evil and now we're getting into explicit talk about living in the simulation and how we have a
Starting point is 00:24:58 tripartite self existing in three different dimensions and how the answer is to brainwash yourself and then rebuild under the helpful guidance of alex's dumbass and this shady hypnotist this is scary i don't know like i look obviously this could result in nothing but also this could end very poorly for some people and the worst part is i just i just see here in my head the voice of somebody watching these and just going like man it's a good thing i don't believe in that prosperity gospel stuff because this is real oh this stuff is what works just giving money to that rich person that's crazy i would never fall for those glitterbug churches yeah exactly now this is the raw shit as they have the documents and i want to say he bring up documents a bit and
Starting point is 00:25:41 before the interview alex was constantly banging the drum of we're gonna get into these documents me and jake we're gonna get deep into the weeds sure and that's one of the reasons why i was so excited is that like i want to know what documents you're talking about i want to read them i want to get a sense of okay so you guys made this six hour or eleven hour i think he says eleven hour at some point but it's also eleven eleven steps program he said it was a six hour six hour plus yeah six parts i think yeah oh my god it's complicated get a job but they created this entire course and so i would assume they'd have a really good handle on the document that's behind it or underlying this you think and so i got i got pumped to hear that and i don't i don't know
Starting point is 00:26:25 if you're gonna be surprised about this but it's gonna be a while before i'm not surprised because we gotta we gotta you know talk about shit talk talk about nothing for a big yeah yeah and that's why i'm so excited about it because and then we get cia documents and they admit that that they know we have an innate from our ancestors our spirit who we are they try to create this facsimile and then they try to erase who we were but they didn't really erase it they create a false thing that we then follow this is what christ talks about about being born again because we're already in christ we're already real before we fell we got programmed now we're born again we come out of it and think about what's interesting that quote in the bible is to not be conformed by the pattern
Starting point is 00:27:05 of the world they use the same word in the mk ultra documents don't be conformed by the pattern of the world what's the pattern of the world it's the entire mind control system that they use predictive programming and unconscious hypnosis to control us i guess now alex is trying to insinuate that the idea of being born again actually refers to the process of undergoing the rediscovery of your real self that was replaced by the facsimile of you that the globalists created and alex is gonna help you with that i'm not a religious person but that seems deeply blasphemous sirs sirs this is a public library i'm gonna have to ask you to leave yeah this is troublesome um i feel like that relies less on the sacrifice of jesus as the bible discusses and more about uh is that
Starting point is 00:27:49 important watching alex's bullshit when was that important this whole sacrifice of jesus that listen we all know that it didn't really happen oh boy so as for the bible verse that jake is talking about the word pattern is used in the new international version of the bible quote do not conform to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind and then you'll be able to test and approve what god's will is his good pleasing and perfect will that's roman's 12 to but the wording is different at other translations for instance in the king james version it says quote and be not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind that ye may prove what is uh what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of god the word
Starting point is 00:28:33 pattern is in very very few translations of roman's the book romans was originally uh written in coine greek and if you go back to the original source text there's no reason to add the word pattern to that sentence the greek text uses the verb to be conformed then the word to and the word ioni which translates to age the age this word as well as the next word totou meaning this are both in the genitive case which means that they're meant to be taken together the genitive case in greek is used to generally indicate possession and in this case it's just a general sense of the things of the age taken purely from the text the sentence is essentially saying don't get caught up in the extraneous things around you the change year to year this is probably all sounding a little bit
Starting point is 00:29:17 in the weeds but the reason i needed to make this clear is because the reason that jake is making a big deal about it is because the word depatterning is used in some of the lsd and behavioral experiments in mk ultra well talk more about that later but it's critical to understand that jake is trying to connect the word depatterning existing in relation to mk ultra and the word pattern in this bible verse is being meaningful when in reality the word pattern isn't in the original text and the only translations that include that word were published in 1978 2011 and 2019 there's no meaning to this connection it's just an attempt to make it appear that the evil globalists who did mk ultra were intentionally trying to undo what god wanted of people this is like two steps above q anon
Starting point is 00:30:01 honestly maybe not maybe one i am starting to think and i'm going to go out on a limb here i'm going to start to think that in the beginning the word was not with god because it doesn't seem like he has a clear handle on it anymore well the word got away from me in the beginning was the word and the word got away from me i'm going to be honest with you in the end there was word play in the end there was a pun uh such a mess so alex has got some complaining to do and i think i think uh this is stupid big leftist yesterday when i did a little piece on this put it clips in look at jones a con man he says he knows god and has the secret big we all have the secret of the connection to god obviously him forward is the tip of the spear we're not playing games
Starting point is 00:30:47 i listen leftist you're caught off from god you don't get it i am connected to god to me this is real they sit there and i look jones is telling his listeners he's got a connection to god the blah blah blah no it's real it's really will change the universe if people know it understand it and that's why your bosses are so scared because they're not like you some brainwashed minion they're aware of this and using this against us and we're here to set the cap is free with jesus christ power wow good dismount wow two people unwilling to breathe unwilling to breathe alex nailed the landing on that sense yes he did right when he was running out of breath true true true so what's going on here is that alex is creating a straw man to protect and insulate his religious
Starting point is 00:31:28 extremism for being questioned or criticized by people and make it appear that any criticism of alex's religious extremism is actually an attack on all of christianity i don't think that most people have any problem with the idea of someone saying that they're connected to their conception of god or even saying that they have a personal relationship with that deity these are pretty well accepted and understood expressions of spirituality these days alex is claiming that he's being criticized for that but that's not true that's not what alex says the things he's being criticized for alex says that the literal devil has been trying to recruit him since he was child because the devil knew alex was critical to god's plans alex says that god gives him
Starting point is 00:32:05 prophetic visions and allows him to see the future alex says that god uses various people to carry out his vengeance on the wicked which would be kind of hard to prove so i guess he just kind of got to take people at their word when they say god told them to do something really horrible yeah alex believes that people on the left are literally knowingly or unknowingly working for the literal devil alex believes that things like gender norms and heterosexuality are things that are mandated by god and that to not conform to his beliefs on the subject is a sin alex's version of religion deserves criticism and rebuke because it's exactly the kind of thing that makes it easy for people to hate religion and think religious people are assholes also alex uses religion as
Starting point is 00:32:42 a marketing tool as we've exhaustively documented over the course of this show he's essentially a cartoon character of a bigoted religious con man these are the things that this big time left leftist is probably criticizing alex for not claiming that he's connected to god yeah and the end yeah i'm sure it's not a big time leftist i'm sure it's somebody on twitter yeah yeah some some douchebag a random person on twitter that was it so jake is pretty big into this idea that you're not your body sure you're not your physical self and so i assume he's totally fine with trans people or body modifications or anything along those lines i will say that that subject doesn't come up odd but the fact that he seems to be presenting himself as so simpatico
Starting point is 00:33:29 with alex he probably there's a reason it doesn't come up yeah he doesn't want people to know yeah throughout history the control system has always operated that's why they hid certain books of the bible that's why the vatican has underground libraries the way tyranny always controls people is cutting them off from their higher spiritual faculties convince them they're just a body even though your body is just a rental car that houses your soul i'm here in austin right now i use a rental car it's not my car i'm just using it your body is just a rental car the whole goals to cut it off i'm a huge fan of alex have been for many years and i know you are too go to reset worse Jesus christ man this is going to be the most powerful thing they totally share it that's
Starting point is 00:34:07 all over they're freaking out over instagram and twitter and the news and we love that because you're not going to stop us satan we'll be right back wow so i gotta say for someone who's so concerned with these lost and forgotten forbidden books of the bible like jake pretends to be his quoting of that last verse reveals that he definitely reads some pretty recent translations i'm sure he has a great grasp on the book of enok or the gospel of thomas though and i'm pretty happy for him uh honestly the the vatican secret archives you know like he's referencing yeah or the apostolic archives are probably just so well secured and guarded because they contain information about the catholic church and its internal workings as well as financial details
Starting point is 00:34:47 there are plenty of records they have that they would want to keep private you don't need to create fun stories about magical secret books of the bible that they're hiding yeah but they probably are also why not also like i i had a period of time in my life where i get deeply into the books that were not in the canon sure um and i think i could speak about this uh at length if uh jake ever got specific about what he was talking about yeah unfortunately doesn't i think it's all just vague mumbo jumbo ideas about nosticism probably yeah i would prefer if he got into the weeds on those a little bit like i would like to talk about that one story where when jesus is a kid he just murders that other kid that one was pretty he brought him back though he did
Starting point is 00:35:29 bring him back but that's still not okay or that time he fought dragons in a cave that was pretty cool so the the um the thing is you know he has this like oh there's all this stuff that they banned from the bible sure but he doesn't give any specifics it's the same thing with alex talking about the documents right it's like there's nothing you can do with that even if you know a ton about the sob the subject that's going to be discussed if you're not specific i don't know what you're talking about oh i wasn't talking about that exactly i know you're i know you're talking about something but that's not what i was talking exactly it's a dead end yeah and as to what alex is saying no one's mad about alex starting reset wars i'm probably the only
Starting point is 00:36:04 person in the world who pays uh as much attention as i do to alex and i have people who message me whenever there's any news in alex's world and no one has brought up reset wars no one cares the world at large doesn't care about reset wars and i think there's a good reason to be scared about this development honestly the idea that you're not your body and that this life is just a rental car for your soul that could be a fairly innocuous platitude in new age self-help circles but it can also be an indication of a cult going in a very dangerous direction towards devaluation of human life if you're not your body and you could strike a big win against the globalists by sacrificing your body in some kind of a suicide attack it might start to sound
Starting point is 00:36:44 like a more compelling prospect if you're not your body i'm not my physical self yeah people are people in cults are committing suicide just just for the hell of it you know hey don't worry about all the people that you might potentially kill in the process of whatever you're doing they're not their bodies either so what's really the harm in any of it true i want to be clear that i'm not saying that this is the direction that this rhetoric is going but the combination of these ideas being pushed front and center being presented as alex's most important work and the world of angry bullshit that alex has created in the past 20 years of his career is super concerning and it needs to be watched carefully what i'm getting at is like this could go real bad yeah well i mean
Starting point is 00:37:23 if you are not your body no one is their body and no human being really is part of their body which means really you can do whatever it is you want to the body so long as you don't hurt the soul so how would you even gauge that exactly i think you know your soul is fine the end so do whatever you want do what that wilts as though as uh someone might say oh oh boy so alex uh told ducey when they were working on this stuff he's like man people are going to be so mad we're going to get some shit for this and i don't think they have going back four or five six months ago and going back two months ago we were working on this film project peace that wars i told jake ducey who's very successful in the zone right bestselling author and um researcher people like this speaker that
Starting point is 00:38:12 they're going to come address for this and now you see they are really worried about this because we're explaining what the enemy knows and that you don't see on any tv channels in any newspapers anywhere david eye is the only other person that conceptualizes it but we go into the actual nuts and bolts and then show you in the cia zone admissions but they're aware of this and then the bible literally being quoted by the cia and how they control people i'm thrilled to hear that the turd in the punch bowl david eyck is now the only person who's been speaking truth all along all along such bullshit all along such nonsense also it's so funny to hear alex dance around this dude's credits it's just like come on it seems very intentional that he's not bringing up this
Starting point is 00:38:59 very large aspect of jake's yeah he's a hypnotist you can't you cannot have a hypnotist on your news show to tell people the news it makes me think of steve pechenek a little bit you can't do that it's bad it's a bad idea at least alex would say that steve is a psych psychological operations expert right right right at least he's like he's in psych warfare as opposed to a hypnotist who's just a personal psychological warfare operation good to be so um ducy starts to bring up mk ultra and like i like i said i i'm really interested in them bringing up specifics and it it's just such a dry well but the most fascinating part really pops in to mk ultra and there's a document in the declassified mk ultra that after i got to watch alex film his reset wars course
Starting point is 00:39:53 i was reading back through these documents and i and i showed him this document and it's from dr cameron's notes and you and cameron and it's about a woman who's been asleep for 16 days because i have her on drugs they have her with subliminals all these control systems going on and part of the note says she is sleeping well she is disoriented as to time only and is probably in her second stage of depatterning and i was like wow you're you know you'll see a lot of people cover mk ultra even the mainstream new york times all these places but what do they say the headlines are horrific use government overreach scary stuff but the question is never asked why are they doing it and they're doing it because they realize the mind is literally a computer operating system we
Starting point is 00:40:42 live in a simulation that's controlled through unconscious consciousness and they figured out how to manipulate and control it and in the same way the only way that we're going to win is to depattern ourselves so first of all i love the idea that jake is blowing his own mind with the idea that the word depatterning is like the translation of romans 12 to he mentioned earlier it's crazy so sad everywhere also the news does cover why these mk ultra experiments happened and you know what so do the mk ultra documents that jake is pretending to have read and guess what they happened because of rampant out of control anti-communism there you go these programs mk ultra and its precursors project artichoke and project bluebird were all predicated on the
Starting point is 00:41:22 belief that the soviet union had already mastered these techniques of mind control and thus if we stood any chance in the cold war we would need to defensively figure these things out when i say this is obvious i mean that it's so clear that i refuse to believe that jake could have looked into this at all and not learned this one of the major sources of information about the mk ultra program is the 1977 joint hearing before the senate committee on intelligence and the subcommittee on health and scientific research this was a hearing where the then director of the cia admiral standsfield turner testified having recently found a bunch of new mk ultra related documents as a result of a foyer request many documents had been destroyed but these ones were accidentally
Starting point is 00:42:03 sent to the cia's budget and fiscal section and due to a very thorough employee they were eventually discovered much of this new information that was learned was in line with the 1963 report from the uh from an inspection that was done by the inspector general but there was added detail and some like receipts and stuff anyway in the documentation from this 1977 hearing you'll find this quote the late 1940s and early 1950s were marked by concern over the threat posed by the activities of the soviet union the people's republic of china and other communist bloc countries united states concern over the use of chemical and biological agents by these powers was acute the belief that hostile powers had used chemical and biological agents and terrorism brainwashing
Starting point is 00:42:45 and an attack designed to harass disable or killed uh kill allied personnel created considerable pressure for a defensive program to investigate chemical and biological agents so that the intelligence community could understand the mechanisms by which these substances work and how their effects could be defeated from the earliest points dating back to bluebird the focus on anti-communism was explicit in the document that was discussing the hypnotist that the agency was contacting for uh in the bluebird quote redacted was also reported as being reliable trustworthy unknown anti-communist bluebird officers were unable to find any indications of deviousness or pro-soviet interests the interest was too pronged that they had essentially they
Starting point is 00:43:27 wanted to break communist spies and know how to keep the soviet union from being able to crack our spies naturally because of the need for intense secrecy of such a project and shoddy oversight internally this sprawled considerably and led to questions of whether the scientists could quote develop means for the control of activities and mental capacities of individuals willing or not and it got really out of control and they did horrific uh unacceptable and unrationalizable things yeah uh it was uh all of it though it was all entirely motivated by fear of the communists the driving forces and the motivations for these projects is very clear and the only explanation for jake not knowing this or saying no one talks about why they did this
Starting point is 00:44:09 if he knows anything about this subject he's either hypnotized himself to forget it or he's a liar it is it is amazing uh how stupid america was at the time because if i remember correctly that like ability to control minds was disinformation released specifically by the soviet union and that sent the united states on a billion dollar witch hunt for magic so that's great yeah i i i yeah it's depressing yep so um look we got this we got this guy jake and he believes that we're all under mk ultra man sure it's happening sure everywhere yeah it's it's it's it's it's happening to you right now right and i used to think i was awake when i would listen to you and then i realized well i'm an mk ultra patient i know what's happening i know about the new world
Starting point is 00:45:04 order but i'm controlled in my business and my success and my finances and my happiness by the way you're not just saying that the globalist brag they're externalizing mind control that's what the media is we are under mk ultra attack absolutely and the entire system is perpetuated off of one simple phrase i love to say it it says brainwash yourself before the world brain washes you brain wash yourself before the world brain washes you and that's the entire deep patterning system and in extreme examples dr cameron actually says in one of the documents they say that cameron believed that breaking down a patient's mind was akin to a childlike state that would allow him to work from a clean slate whereby he could then program the patients so this is being presented as like a
Starting point is 00:45:52 real document so i got pretty excited yeah you and cameron thing yeah yeah so also really quick just to get this off like really fast we're not all under mk ultra that's it that's a bizarre statement and what it really makes me think of is alex's marketing strategy for selling iodine he tries to convince the audience that they're all iodine deficient and it's causing them to not be as smart as they could be this feels exactly the same jake is trying to sell you on the idea that you have a deficiency and he's the person who has what you need to break free of it this is all just really shady techniques of sales that they're using on people also the idea of brainwashing yourself so someone else doesn't is definitely alarming to hear hey because you know what you could just do
Starting point is 00:46:32 think no no no don't you don't you get it don't you get it if it works for everything kill yourself before the world kills you it makes perfect sense any negative thing eat your leg before the world eats your leg just put it all in there man it makes perfect sense uh huh yeah mm yep that's what you want people to think great so at the end of the clip jake was talking about dr cameron there like i said it sounded like he was reading from something but the text didn't match anything that i'd come across in the files that i'd read sure it took me a while but i think i figured out where he got this from the text that he reads is almost identical to a paragraph in an article from cbc news titled quote brainwashed the echoes of mk ultra this article has an interesting first paragraph
Starting point is 00:47:18 quote the following story is based on material from the cbc podcast brainwashed a six part series this is an article discussing the content of a podcast that was investigating uh mk ultra which isn't the first source that i would choose to go with particularly if i was someone who had awareness of the documents yeah that would make sense i uh became almost entirely convinced that this is exactly where jake is pulling his information from because just before this paragraph in the text there's an image which is an image of a page from cameron's notes which happens to be the very page of notes that jake referenced earlier about a woman having 16 days of sleep great uh i wasn't fully convinced though that this article it was what jake was using but then he said this his term
Starting point is 00:47:59 was psychic driving depatterning psychic driving depatterning which meant playing recorded messages to patients for up to 20 hours whether they were asleep or whether they were awake and in extreme examples this woman esther schreyer was so quote completely depatterned she was mute and had trouble swallowing those are literally the details in the next few sentences in that cbc article sure if i had to guess this article is about the depth of his information on this subject the rest is just pseudo spiritual mumbo jumbo that he's using like that he spouts all the time on his own uh on his own platforms yeah this is just simulation and yeah it's just integrating his own um hypnotism scam into uh the political world of conspiracy that alex right lives in right all right boy if this is a
Starting point is 00:48:48 simulation uh uh in what world does it make any sense for you to be able to think your way out of it no because when you think your way into brainwashing yourself then you're able to see that it's a simulation and you can create whatever you want it's the matrix that's just don't you want to be neo all you have to do is watch reset wars all right now i okay i'm i see you're hesitant i'm very frustrated by people saying that you can think your way through a simulation that's a problem for me yeah that's just a part of the simulation if it's a simulation it's being simulated uh huh you can't unsimulate a simulation true if you're inside of it right and the exit would be death yeah right yeah so yeah that's it it leads you to some negative thoughts if you or if you're
Starting point is 00:49:42 in the matrix someone has to break you out of it physically which probably would be impossible because what you are doesn't actually exist outside of the simulation exactly like what does it mean for a sim to be taken out of the game yeah doesn't mean anything i made it free oh shit i just don't exist anymore yeah i i don't know i i i back when i smoked a lot of weed i used to engage with the idea of the simulation quite a bit read like nick bostrom stuff sure sure sure sure blow my mind and i kind of came to a conclusion that it doesn't matter exactly yeah if it is a simulation it matters exactly as much as if it is not a simulation it matters because it's fun to think about yeah um and and think about the nature of reality and that kind of stuff is is uh is a
Starting point is 00:50:32 good use of time if you're if you're high yeah and you have friends that you like to talk about that kind of stuff with it's a good time hey you're young you're young do it but ultimately it bears no difference no on how you would live your life yep yep you got it um i don't know it's like calvinism i'm like i might be wrong determined fine it doesn't really matter then does it right so alex has some ideas about uh dr you and cameron sure that this has come on all right he kidnapped over 10 000 children in the u.s and canada and other programs use cps to get them and would keep people asleep sometimes for months with lsd pcp they had video goggles you think that's new nothing that i'm going to say at any point in this episode please do not take any of
Starting point is 00:51:20 it to be minimizing what these people did yeah i'm not doing that but alex is lying yeah uh for one the this the child protective service didn't exist until 1980 with the passage of the adoption assistance and child welfare act of 1980 so the timeline doesn't work at all but alex just hates the cps because he thinks that they're trying to take straight families children and give them the same sex couples yeah so he's throwing the cps in with you and cameron who's going to follow up on that you sure also i'm going to need alex to substantiate the claim that you and cameron kidnapped tens of thousands of children because as much of a monster as he is and was i don't think this matches up with any of the records i can find i'm not going to spend my time defending
Starting point is 00:52:02 cameron but i'm going to say that alex does a disservice to reality in opposition to people like cameron by creating cartoon super villains out of them it's uh really dumb yeah it takes a garden variety banal evil that we need to combat and be aware of on a nigh in constant basis and turns it into magical fairies that you don't really need to worry about because it's all the way over there it's over there in the distance tens of thousands of children being kidnapped for this program would be front and center explain to me how you could get away with a classified program for however many years while stealing tens of thousands of children somebody's gonna notice yeah it it seems it seems uh impossible and one of the things that they did is they would do tests
Starting point is 00:52:49 on people who are like psychiatric patients and folks who people who couldn't say no who weren't in the ability to have there yeah not exclusively but a lot of folks but a lot of them yes and and that would be entirely counter to uh the strategy that would involve kidnapping tens of thousands of children but anyway if alex can prove that i'm willing to hear it go for it so uh here are the like sort of the boil downs of like this is this is the level of their argument and so the stuff that they released in 77 with the church committee the mk alger was only a small part of this and again this is just this is 40 50 60 70 years ago imagine what they're doing now so that is their argument there it is without proving anything someone like alex can just say that known information
Starting point is 00:53:37 on a subject is a cover-up and that we should just imagine what they're up to now both of these are just suggestions without meaning anything could be a cover-up if you say it is and then the conversation kind of hits a dead end i mean what are you gonna do uh no it's not uh yes it is okay great what now also the imagine what they're doing now is way weaker of a game that's just trying to get the listener to imagine the scariest and most awful thing they can and then giving them permission to think that it's possible or maybe even probable that that's going on now these are both intentional strategies where people pretend to have demonstrated a point when they really haven't said anything at all and it's getting disappointing yeah because i wanted documents
Starting point is 00:54:16 but that's such an that's such a good tactic for for people who aren't like 100 engaged critically at that moment that because because immediately you go well i mean we've got an iphone now and they had rotary phones back then so if they were that evil back then i mean obviously they've accelerated or escalated their problems right now and that makes a certain sense to you but if you're not thinking critically all this you know it just stays there yeah so jake understandably is pumped about reset wars um because he's gonna teach people that they're not their bodies money money money this is why i'm so excited about reset wars and might say everybody literally go right now open a browser go to reset wars dot com because throughout history the way
Starting point is 00:55:04 tyranny always wins is to stop us from spiritual awakening as long as they trap us in the third dimension they make us live in an animalistic state of consciousness believe we're just our physical bodies attached to this little tiny spectrum of visible light then they win but as soon as people start to actually wake up not just wake up to hey pharmaceutical corruption hey uh financial corruption but actually wake up to who they really are then the whole game's over because that's what bill gates that's what claus wab they all fear people spiritually awakening that's why they want to target children so young to screw up their normal trajectory towards reaching christ and and and the connection to the infinite uh oh right there alex accidentally
Starting point is 00:55:45 revealed his religious zealotry and extremism he believes that a child's natural normal trajectory is ending up with the same christ-based religious beliefs that he does and the people who want to provide important medical treatment to children like vaccines are doing so to make sure that this normal trajectory goes off course it's one thing to say that humans generally tend to gravitate towards feeling a connection to the divine and they crave to be part of something larger than themselves which is often found through religion and connection to god but that's not what alex is saying this is him basically saying that every person who's not a christian in the sense that alex understands it is someone whose natural normal trajectory was knocked off course likely by
Starting point is 00:56:24 an agent of satan this is fucked up yeah that's that's great yeah that's real great uh-huh that's the the the level of thinking required to get there uh-huh high that precludes tolerance top scientists have reached those conclusions as well yeah wow that's fucked up oh my god so in this next clip alex reveals how little he actually knows about the organization of mk ultra and the point i was gonna make earlier and i always get one thought and then jump to the next his doctor ewing cameron was the head of mk ultra that's declassified who was his adjunct his aid to camp his number two jolly and west who is tim mcvay's psychologist when he was on death row and who was theodore kazinsky psychologist this isn't true uh ewing cameron was responsible for
Starting point is 00:57:14 carrying out a large number of mk ultra related experiments at his home base at the allen memorial institute at mcgill university he was paid approximately 60 000 dollars or 500 000 in modern dollars for work he did between 1957 and 1960 so he's doing this work for three years tens of thousands of children kidnapped in three years that's that's an accomplishment that's true that's tough in reality allen dullis as the head of cia had given ultimate approval for the program but it was run by sydney gotlieb this is a pretty well known piece of information and if alex has as much awareness of the subject as he's pretending to then he either knows that and this is an intentional lie or i have no idea what the other alternative is i mean allen dullis is the center of all
Starting point is 00:58:01 conspiracies right but sydney gotlieb is really the more important figure no that's i'm sorry that's my point is you have to know about allen dullis and if you know about allen dullis you have to know about sydney gotlieb i think that allen dullis exists in alex's head as like in the jfk file sure so probably yeah he doesn't exist across other conspiracies i gotcha so jolly and west was not ewin cameron's aid to camp but he did a ton of experiments on lsd and hypnosis relating to suggestibility and the possibility of implanting false memories and people and he definitely was in contact with and funded by sydney gotlieb and the cia for some of his activities west also accidentally killed an elephant with lsd well that's better than edison killing it on purpose
Starting point is 00:58:47 also jolly and west was not uh timothy mcvay's psychologist while he was on death row there are claims made that west visited mcvay in prison but there are some reasons why that might not be as shocking as it seems first in 1954 he was appointed chair of the department of psychiatry at the university of oklahoma in oklahoma city he had deep roots in the city itself sure secondly over the course of his career west i was very involved in criminal cases sometimes even high profile ones like the patty hearst trial and so i think that that would be a case that he would gravitate towards right in terms of understanding the mindset of the perpetrator i can see that so i i don't i don't think it's impossible that he visited him prison but i don't think it means that he
Starting point is 00:59:29 was brainwashing him or whatever that doesn't make too much sense yeah and so like you got alex thinking un cameron was working hand in hand with jolly and west in order to run mk ultra it just reveals a depth of not knowing what uh actually is historically documented and a uh an abundance of not giving a fuck about what real really happened so i don't know if you know this i don't did you know that the pentagon has the ability to change your emotions with a ray gun i did know that they say they admit the pentagon admits that they can use uh microwaves and electromagnetic frequencies to literally control someone's brain and change their emotions and we're going to show you the patents we're going to show you the news articles us news and roll report 20 30 years ago and when
Starting point is 01:00:20 you read the patents it's 5g 5g is there nine controls sure it's 5g absolutely so i guess now it's 5g it's 5g dan it's all of it it's a simulation but also 5g within the simulation is made by stiff for different simulations and then there's jesus and god and the devil and alan dulls all up in here this makes me so mad i'm so frustrated we're not even close to the depths of this frustration are you talking about well he's talking about the uh government having a brain control ray gun sure and the vibrational pattern of them or whatever is identical to what is now 5g so they're putting in 5g towers everywhere so they can control everyone's emotions sure now i think that that would lack uh the ability to specifically target people because i would assume that these
Starting point is 01:01:11 5g towers would affect everyone in the it'd be like a vicinity field so you'd be making a lot of people angry or or just why not make to why not turn everybody to happy hey i mean that seems like a simple if you can control everybody's emotions and everybody's happy who's working better and doing all that better stuff and having better relationships fucking if you're gonna be evil why not do it for the right way sure so earlier alex uh implied that the reset wars is basically being born again yes you know reset resetting your brain is basically just being born again yeah and not the that was a little bit sacrilegious yeah this kind of veers in the same direction sure i'm just gonna say this is very close to what the devil did in the garden i mean
Starting point is 01:01:58 and i just got honest with listeners that's what this is but it's the other way back you see they already did it tell us before to forget who we were now we got to wake up to that fact wow so alex is undoing what the the satan did in the garden it is about time i'm going to tell you this right now it took a while to get here and i'm glad we've got here okay and it's funny that he's doing this uh at the moment of his greatest desperation i mean just insane just insane almost like this is a hail mare it is it is a bit of a it is a bit of an 80 yard pass this is daunte colpepper years uh yeah this this to me just smells like well i got no other moves i got a big swing i got to do whatever i got to do yep so i think that alex is implying that
Starting point is 01:02:48 reset wars has the ability to undo original sin this is like the snake coming down the tree talking to eve and talking to adam we were perfect because we're following god's pattern and then a new pattern was put in but it feels dirty even go back to that moment to be there at the tree and to say hey you want to get rid of this pattern you could have god's pattern but that's what this is you got to serve somebody by whole will everything i am is about being straight with you that's why they say alex yones is never wrong no i i'm right about 97 percent of the time sometimes i get distorted or get sped up or see it wrong and later i tell you i'm wrong i'm wrong i'm wrong i'm wrong but i mean you're
Starting point is 01:03:34 right 97 percent of the time you know what's going on you know you you know comment you don't you already innately don't need the news to tell you you know in your spirit your spirit's so old so powerful so real just hear it no yeah no who cares if there's factual inaccuracies in the basic details of the things you're talking about if your spirit that's that is old and powerful it knows the truth 97 percent of the time 97 percent you would think that if it's a spirit it would be right 100 percent of the time why would there be that 3 percent of the time when your spirit's wrong nobody's nerfed dad that's dumb um also i don't think reset wars is going to undo original so i think that's now now now you say that but you're not thinking proactively this
Starting point is 01:04:21 is what we're talking about here dan you need to repattern your mind to think more towards a positive view of changing original sin this also leads me to question whether or not you could show the devil reset wars ooh and make the devil good i mean why not right right the devil should be able to reprogram himself why is this on your vision board the devil having a better day yeah jake manifest that they just don't have any imagination for for people who believe that anything is possible within god's power they they just don't have any imagination it's true so alex has some prescriptions of like what you should be doing and and we're here simply trying to get everybody to realize we can fight all the enemies attacks we can fight all the racism and all the sexism
Starting point is 01:05:11 and all the stuff they speak with the name of stoppin and or we can just reach up to the divine and grasp what was already given to us we're given the false apple of i'll tell you about the universe just just do this with me over instead of like no you got to reach up even higher and god's hand is reaching down so this is an interesting perspective um if you're someone who doesn't necessarily believe in religious stuff you might hear this as a racist using over the top religious imagery to plead with people to stop trying to fight racism sure you might hear this as a misogynist using ridiculous rhetoric to beg people to just stop trying to fight sexism you might hear those things because those are the real world effects of what alex is proposing
Starting point is 01:05:51 it serves the purpose of trying to make the audience care even less about these social issues and to be hostile and condescending towards people who do care about such things i don't personally believe that there is a god whose hand you can grab if you ignore racism and sexism but if there is an alex's the embodiment of what it means to have grabbed that hand i want no part of it it seems awful personally i believe that if there is a god the best way we can pay homage to and serve that god is to respect care about and serve each other that can come in many forms but working towards equality in our social systems is definitely one of those things i think would be an homage to god you know see this is another thing with imagination these people are are
Starting point is 01:06:31 constantly associating this with good like what if god is just a piece of shit you know like what if alex is right in what god wants him to do and we're out here the one who's actually the problem is god himself he's just a real piece of shit he's a misogynist he's a racist why i don't know he's god yeah how could we possibly understand the workings of the mind of god we see through a glass darkly yeah so um i i i think that it's troubling that the insistence that jake has is so much on this like you're not your body thing um and this is just this leads to something hilarious there wasn't it wasn't that long ago if you asked me who i was i would have said my name is shake doozy i'm six foot three this is i blue eyes this is how long my hair is this is
Starting point is 01:07:20 why i am but this is just a rental car it's it's a fingernail to who i really am and how empowering is it what you realize that it's incredibly empowering and and here's what's something that's so interesting i sent you this text the other day on my youtube channel someone left a comment and they said uh as a as a black man i don't know how this this blonde hair blue eyed guys videos popped up but i don't want to watch you because legacy media has told me because you're white you're a racist or evil you're the devil but while i'm listening to your video right now i have this deep fear that actually we all come from the same source and they've been lying to me he knows totally real that's a 100 real youtube comment that a 100
Starting point is 01:08:10 percent real black person 100 real wrote that's totally real that's a real thing that accidentally happens to fit exactly with what it is he would hope somebody would write i i also think that even if it is a real comment it's kind of sad to cite youtube comments now as being like really this is the pulse of the nation day yeah so i i think that this uh your body is a rental car stuff has pretty pretty um widespread troubling implications if just combined with alex that's basically yeah one of my major theses even john mayor has troubling issues when combined with alex jones yeah in which case if your body is a wonderland exactly what are you gonna do what are you gonna do with that so i finally get uh something that resembles our document here every
Starting point is 01:09:06 time you have an emotion you activate cells that build a neurological they're programming your brain yeah and they know it there here's this dot here's a document um from the us army college of war and they say quote the mind has no innate firewall to protect itself from electromagnetic weapons what's an electromagnetic weapon well what's anything what this is just an electromagnetic field there's no such thing as matter in in your what could describe us in the pentagon documents from the 60s and 70s that we are these energy creatures they're controlling they say it we're gonna show all this oh my god so that's not a direct quote uh that jake is uh doing but it's taken from an article published in the us army war college quarterly it was an article from 1998
Starting point is 01:09:50 and it's written by a guy named timothy l thomas who'd been published pretty widely in the past 20 years or more in the area of foreign intelligence operation and psychological warfare are you gonna tell me that i have to listen to something that tim tom wrote tim tom the uh title of the article is the mind has no firewall and the basic gist of it is this for decades the idea of information warfare had to do with penetrating enemy stores of information and disrupting their data collection abilities while simultaneously protecting our own uh typically this was thought of in terms of computers but new developments had forced people to recognize that the human body itself is a powerful data collection instrument and if you subject the senses to various stimulus you can
Starting point is 01:10:31 create varying effects the example of sonic weapons and the ability to trigger a seizure through flashing lights are used to illustrate this concept the article then brings up the work of a russian doctor named victor uh sulnitsev who proposed that the human organism needed to be seen as an open system not a single thing in and of itself or a closed system this is to say that environmental influences and information flow into the open system that is the person has the potential to quote cause a change in the psychopsychophysiological condition uh of an organism this is discussed in terms of the relationship between computer and computer user how it might be possible for quote a computer modified to become a weapon by using its energy output to admit acoustics
Starting point is 01:11:17 that debilitate the operator sulnitsev is discussed as someone who is warning about that future potential for this he's not encouraging it right like look out this is right right right so sulnitsev also warned about the idea of information noise which is essentially an overwhelming stimulus and signals uh quote behavior modification could be one objective information noise another could be to upset an individual's mental capacity to such an extent as to prevent reaction to any stimulus this was just his theory but honestly the concept made me think of alex his show is just a constant barrage of bullshit your mind can't possibly process if you're just listening to the show uh you have to be critically examining it to even see what he's
Starting point is 01:12:00 saying and and how much he's full of shit yeah i could see that leading to an audience uh that ending up with a difficult time reacting to any real stimulus and then the only real solution to any of the problems alex rance about ends up being to give him money or to promote his show to other people who might give him money yep so that was that was fun yeah that's a good corollary generally speaking this article is largely about physical effects that could be produced with the use of weapons that would interfere with the body's data gathering abilities quote with modification these technological applications have many uses acoustic weapons for example could be adapted to use uh for use as acoustic rifles or acoustic fields that once established might protect
Starting point is 01:12:39 facilities assist in hostage rescue at rescues control riots or clear paths for convoys these waves which can penetrate buildings offer a host of opportunities for military and law enforcement officials microwave weapons by stimulating the peripheral nervous system can heat up the body induce epileptic like seizures or cause cardiac arrest low frequency radiation affects the electrical activity of the brain and can cause flu-like symptoms and nausea obviously being the target of those sorts of weapons could obvi like absolutely have psychological effects but they wouldn't be the primary objective of the weapons use then the precise reaction would be essentially impossible to predict so this stuff that's being discussed uh is not psychological in
Starting point is 01:13:21 nature the word that that jake is is implying a a lower level example would be like a mall playing a ultra high frequency noise that only uh younger children can hear sure that kind of in order to kind of keep them away from certain areas i guess they do that they do yeah okay yeah i guess or dog fence yeah yeah sure the article further discusses how the u.s had voiced willingness to work with international treaties against these kinds of weapons and one of the primary concerns that exist is the idea of non-state actors who wouldn't be bound by these sorts of treaties using these kinds of weapons these are people referred to as psycho terrorists this is where the idea of the mind not having a firewall comes in these are potential vulnerabilities that could
Starting point is 01:14:06 be exploited by terrorists and we would have no real way to protect ourselves without developing ways to protect ourselves the article ends talking about how russian researchers were looking into topics like esp telekinesis and clairvoyance for the purposes of defending against them quote according to russian tv broadcasts the strategic rocket forces have begun anti esp training to ensure that no outside force can take over command and control functions of the force that is they are trying to construct a firewall around the heads of the operators why do we allow people who believe in esp to fight war well it's like just in case that's not good just no no that's really what this is it's an article in this journal about how when we talk about protecting
Starting point is 01:14:51 systems like computers the military never gives proper focus to the operators of those computers and how quote clearly the information operator exposed before a vast array of potentially immobilizing weapons is the weak point in any nation's military assets yeah it's like social engineering if you've got a really good defense system or a lock system around your building the easiest way to get in is find somebody who's got a key and be like hey can i have that this doesn't prove any of the points alex or jake are trying to make they've just taken a couple words from this article and misused them in order to pretend that it says what they want it to say i look forward to hearing about these documents that prove that we're energy creatures though the cia talking about
Starting point is 01:15:30 energy creatures yeah that one was interesting i think he's trying to say that uh our our atoms at a fundamental on the quantum level are magnetic fields and so what we feel as a surface is just our magnetic fields touching each other you might be on to something yeah that's great fantastic good work dude and you know what my field right now is touching your field hey watch out yeah get out of here this is my personal field well it looks like i stopped right here and alex stops right here but you and i are a field of energy my field goes about right there and our fields join everything is just a field and max plank the father of quantum physics you quote him in your course he says as a man who's the he won the Nobel prize in 1913 he says as a man who's devoted his entire
Starting point is 01:16:18 life to the most clear-headed science in the world the study of atoms i can tell you this much there's no matter as such so the electromagnetic weapons are important because what are we we're an electromagnetic field of energy and the key is its observation which is the quantum physics don't other than microwaves that'll physically kill you if you're aware of the attack you can defeat it but you don't because your will controls the field no not some stupid machine firing it so i honestly tried so hard to find that quote that he used from max blank in its original form so i could get some context but i just hit a dead end the most consistent attribution of this quote is to a 1944 speech that plank gave in florence italy the source that cited is something within the max
Starting point is 01:17:01 plank institutes archive so i went off to try and find it there the first problem is that archive is all in german and i don't speak german so even just figuring out how the archive is organized was a huge pain in the ass it took a while but i was eventually able to deduce the details of where the citation was pointing to this was abt five section a repository 11 so i found abt five section a and thankfully there it was a collection of numbered repositories unfortunately the archive jumps from number 10 to number 11 so there's no actually accounting of what's in 11 and that was intensely frustrating wow yep that's really frustrating a long way to go only to be like 10 12 that's a slap in the face that's a slap in the face that said i'm not able to find this
Starting point is 01:17:47 actual speech in its original form but i'm willing to believe that that's essentially an accurate quote of something plank would have said in a speech in 1944 sure i really wanted to get a better handle on the context this was said in but that apparently isn't coming even without greater context it's a pretty far leap from planks comments to quote we're all energy fields and once we become aware of that we can change the fields it will i think planks point was more that science was coming to a point where the conventional understanding of matter with uh being completely solid blocks of stuff was being challenged by new breakthroughs that showed that on the tiniest level things that appear to be solid are not technically so yeah this is interesting and
Starting point is 01:18:24 very important to various scientific fields but it doesn't really have as much practical application in day-to-day life is there's implying like i know that my wall isn't actually solid but i can't walk through it it would be hard for me to believe that plank went from uh you know everything that he's done in his life to uh then giving a speech where he's like guess what all that quantum stuff i told you about you have complete control over right magic's real i'm max plank and then drops the mic yeah i mean like it's it's it's one thing to understand this phenomenon that something that appears to be solid on a subatomic level uh may not be quantum physics is cool right it's another thing to be like my intention will determine whether or not this stays solid yeah see there
Starting point is 01:19:13 we go that's an issue that's an issue and i guess if he's just saying that like your emotions are controlled by like you can't control your emotions somewhat sure you know you're thinking can uh you know if this is a basic tenet of therapy yeah it's like uh analyzing and changing the way your thought patterns work can have an effect on your emotions or your field sure whatever sure i guess if you're saying that great but i uh it's not groundbreaking what i say to that is grr i feel like this is just a conversation between a washed up bigot and a guy who's found a way to monetize conversations you'd have you with your friends when you're high freshman year of college that seems to be about where we're at i think you nailed it yep so uh jake is going on this firewall
Starting point is 01:19:56 thing right he talked about that article the u uh the uh we have our minds have no firewall i think harrison ford and denzel's greatest movie i want to say i disagree are you sure in these sections of the army documents they talk about how the mind has no firewall right one of the things china has is it is a firewall on their internet and it's something that we don't have that robert spalding who wrote the stealth war about china in the u.s talks about do you want and he talks about how we don't have a firewall so we're we're we're susceptible to cyber attacks but we don't have a firewall on our own minds i think jake is misunderstanding something important here wow the firewall that people talk about with china isn't something that protects them from cyber attacks
Starting point is 01:20:34 or viruses it's government run limitations on what sites people in china can visit on the internet it's better than saying uh the great censorship yeah it's not a cyber security measure it's censorship yeah we do have plenty of strategies in place to protect against foreign cyber attack but just like is the case with literally anything just having some protections in place doesn't guarantee that the folks who are trying to do harm won't find new ways to get around those protections which then forces you to find new strategies it's cyclical and the same is no no no one's ever had to update their antivirus software also just because it's funny in 2018 robert spalding had to step down from the national security council because a memo came out where he
Starting point is 01:21:16 outlined a quote plan to nationalize the development of 5g wireless networks no and who will profit man that just hits alex in two really tender spots this was a plan to nationalize something which he hates right and the thing that's being nationalized is 5g networks with which alex just said is related to this attack on our energy field yep this spalding guy must have been pretty evil if he's going around making proposals like that of course that stuff is just ignored and we focus on how spalding is critical of china because that works for the narratives these dudes are trying to build and sell to the audience but you know what maybe like alex was just talking shit earlier when he said that this was just 5g maybe he was just trying to see how that feels maybe it wasn't a real
Starting point is 01:21:58 belief that he has the the the head of darpas the old head of darpa says that they figured out how to use electromagnetic weapons to quote induce the brain to release behavioral record regulation it describes the frequency they were using in the 70s and it's 5g oh no it seems like it's actually a belief of this oh boy yep it's 5g great so also that quote that jake's using about darpa that doesn't come from any official document declassified or otherwise it's from a 1997 article in the new us news and world report titled quote wonder weapons the pentagon's quest for non-lethal arms is amazing but is it smart most of this article is about what you would expect acoustic weapons lasers that can temporary temporarily blind targets and microwave weapons
Starting point is 01:22:45 that could raise a person's body temperature to make them feel sick shit each of these is conceived as a as a way to disarm or incapacitate someone who poses a threat without killing them the laser one that's pretty easy but the other two were not really at operational status according to this article they're sort of in development yeah ideas are being thrown around right right right so far we've tried it and we've boiled someone and that was a bad start so we put it on the back burner for a whoops yeah the line that jake is repeating from this article is about research related to the related to the article's author by elden bird bird was not the former head of darpa although that is an organization name the conspiracy theorists are addicted to throwing out oh yeah
Starting point is 01:23:25 just toss that in there he was actually the head of the marine corps non-lethal electromagnetic weapons project which is run out of the armed forces radio biology research institute saying that this was darpa makes it easier for the audience though because it gives them something to hold on to yeah yeah yeah i'm familiar with darpa i might as well just believe it yeah no so bird was in this position from 1980 to 1983 and he claims that he did experiments that found that quote by using very low frequency electromagnetic radiation he found he could induce the brain to release behavior regulating chemicals the issue though is that the waves that they were using were very weak and the effects were short-lived he claims that he was able to do things like
Starting point is 01:24:06 make chick brains release their natural opioids in utero and get certain cells and rat brains to release histamine which would cause nausea and flu like symptoms the program was never quote tested in the field and though his program was meant to last four years it was closed after just two this doesn't pass muster in terms of justifying the claims alex and jake are making yeah i'm gonna go with a big no on that one opposition to research programs like this uh that rely on insisting that weak evidence like this proves that the government is mind controlling everyone on a mass scale and that the answer is rebooting your brain is pointless opposition i made a rat sick so i guess uh i can control minds no no check that out this this research is interesting on that level
Starting point is 01:24:51 it is but they're also they're relying on something that was being told to a writer of an article in the us news and world report as opposed to any data any actual report any science on this and that is not good yeah i would like more peer reviewed uh facts from uh before i start just going along with i can make uh checks release opioids in the womb right it's it's it's just not good work no it's it's faulty it is uh it's almost it's almost like uh uh it's there to be exploited it's almost like it's a hypnotist's trick oh look at these keys look i'm gonna make this uh this article magically appear to be a declassified document great so alex and jake really want to talk about being in the spirit right we're in the spirit okay and so jake jake's going off on that
Starting point is 01:25:47 and then alex says something deeply revealing that we are connected to this divine power and through inspiration we can transform our mind we can think and feel greater than our environment that's how we access new ideas that's how we change the world we must come out of the world and then get into spirit and then take over the world in this one but not of it right absolutely so that right there was a gigantic tell that alex is full of shit they're going on about this esoteric mumbo jumbo about how you have to let go of yourself as a physical person in order to defeat the globalist but alex can't separate this plan from the end goal of taking over the world he's unable to conceive of an end goal for this process of liberation that doesn't involve the
Starting point is 01:26:28 accumulation of power that's pretty much the exact opposite of what one would be interested in as an end goal if you were preaching detachment from the physical world who cares if you take over the physical world it's not real if i recall correctly and i'm going to throw this out there um it was the meek who were uh intended to inherit yeah uh at what point uh uh do you stop being meek is it the part where you go let's take over the world it's it's it's it's not really inheriting i don't i don't know the meek usually have that goal and also this is not a small point but like how does this idea that we're not our physical bodies mesh with alex's obsession with property rights not only do you not have ownership over your car according to alex this car doesn't even
Starting point is 01:27:18 exist how can you possibly exert property rights over malleable waves and force fields or whatever the fuck alex's ideology and worldview is starkly at odds with what he's preaching now because the bedrock of alex's ideology for his entire career has involved two important concepts individualism and materialism giving these two things such primary focus for his entire career is antithetical to the we're not our bodies nonsense he's preaching now if we're not our bodies then none of his politics make any sense if you're not your body then you should have no problem with abortion because that soul is just going to go back to heaven or come back to earth in another body rental car if you're not your body then the argument for unalienable right to self-defense
Starting point is 01:28:00 doesn't even make sense anymore it's really fascinating and i honestly think that this has the potential to either completely destroy alex's career or serve as a pivot into a new attempt at like this pseudo spiritual grift but i have some bad news alex would be shitty at that grift no one wants like namaste being yelled at them yeah like it's not gonna work i find this so interesting though this this this way i would love to hear alex try and explain property rights under this new paradigm i don't think it would be possible well uh as somebody who has studied buddhism for a long time uh i would say that many of the great buddhist masters while they preached detachment were also obsessed with taking over the world and that is something that a lot of
Starting point is 01:28:44 people don't remember sure amitabha buddha he's super nice he's super nice on the surface on the surface but deep down that motherfucker wanted to take everybody to the cleaners well if you believe like let's say this desk here sure is is it appears to be solid i mean but in reality it's not this isn't actually even matter yeah i mean how can i be mad if you take it i can't i don't have ownership over this non-matter no no no what you know detach yourself from these material things and kill anybody who tries to take them i don't understand it all makes perfect sense damn the physical world isn't real but he can kill somebody if they steal your car one of the one of the great noble truths is you gotta fuck somebody up sometimes this is dumb and i wonder
Starting point is 01:29:31 if alex's audience will pick up on that because i i think that it could do him some real serious damage in terms of audience retention i mean if they do start to question those things the the the religiosity that he has preached has a uh certain connotation to it that i feel like people resonate with in his audience and to switch to new agey bullshit i don't think it's gonna i don't think they're gonna follow along with it i think some will sure i mean some are just trapped you know yeah i yeah it's hard to say like i don't know how much um costuming of like the globalists and the new world order and illuminati i don't know how much of that is going to be required to make this palatable yeah because there are these these differences like like materialism is really
Starting point is 01:30:19 big for alex yeah property rights the free market these kinds of things are what alex's career is based on standing for um and this is a is a system that has no interest in that and yet at the same time is almost i mean there is also the obsession with using this system to get stuff oh on on jake's part yes yeah so so it is a bit like um you know you're trading fighting the communists for believing that if you believe hard enough the communists will just go away right also the the ideas of individualism that alex is obsessed with really run counter to this you are not yourself yeah um oh boy i i wish him the best and by that i mean the worst so alex uh advises the audience now hey don't don't go see like if you have medical like a mental health problem don't don't don't oh no no
Starting point is 01:31:17 absolutely don't get help with that you get hurt jake ducey's here with us don't let them all this is yeah don't let them mold your mind take control of your mind be aware of how they manipulate your mind you'll become stronger don't go to some psychologists and psychiatrists in the system telling you're a failure you're weak it's over they got pills for you give me a break ladies and gentlemen transcend at all don't be a victim but i got a compilation of fouchy flip-flopping statements and comments on mask who cares if fouchy is flip-flopping on masks the audience already hates fouchy and they aren't wearing masks and we're talking about how we're not our physical bodies this could not be more trivial compared to the alex uh the topics alex is pretending to cover
Starting point is 01:31:58 i found that to be a jarring no that's not okay handbrake yeah yeah yeah that's not okay yeah all right ooh esoteric ideas proven by cia documents that we have also uh fouchy maybe he's inconsistent about masks this whole fucking thing is a simulation who gives a shit about what fouchy is or is not saying the mask isn't real it's not real it's a field i guess yeah so why are you complaining about it like you can't breathe you're not a bit you're not even the person breathing you're just breath isn't real it's not real god damn it so all right here we go okay we're gonna get into the docs okay finally uh gonna get into the docs let's start getting into all these documents the history of the controlling what they admit they're doing how they're trying to erase our personalities
Starting point is 01:32:46 they were beta testing in the 50 60 70s the last time was stuff was declassified with 77 we can see it now all on a mass scale and i've got a bunch of articles where they admit they're currently doing it to us so shouldn't be people shouldn't people be aware of what's currently being done to i'm excited to get into these documents but also right off the bat alex is completely wrong he's saying that the last time documents were declassified about mk ultra is 1977 and that is incorrect a guy named john greenwald submitted foyer request and was given thousands of pages of documents about mk ultra back in 2004 alex saying this leads me to believe that he doesn't know much about this topic or possibly he just stopped learning new things about it prior to 2004
Starting point is 01:33:29 also greenwald was engaged in another foyer request in 2018 this one specifically regarding behavioral modification and in response he received over a thousand more pages now i will grant that a lot of the pages there in those uh dumps were not really that interesting things like check disbursements but there was also relevant interest in there it's pretty glaring for alex to accidentally admit that he just made this big class about mk ultra stuff but it weirdly isn't aware of things past 1977 you don't want to you don't want to let the modernity get in the way of lore dan sure sure you got to have lore sure so we're getting to the documents okay documents i kind of don't believe you documents i really don't believe you here's the first one i think we've got six more
Starting point is 01:34:13 clips before we get to a single no no there's a document okay okay sort of this one's fascinating this one is from richard cesaro he's the deputy director was the deputy director of the pentagon's advanced research projects darpa this is an actual quote he says quote in our experiments we did some remarkable things and there was no question in my mind that you can get into the brain with microwaves if you really make the breakthrough you've got something better than any bomb ever built because when you finally come down the line you're talking about controlling people's minds so that's their argument put in the 5g that's all right no one riots so no one's bad but their depopulation is doing it it'd be bad enough if good guys put this in but these are bad guys that put this in
Starting point is 01:35:08 oh they're bad what this isn't from a document per se it comes from a may 15th 1988 article in the asbury park press which actually isn't true the asbury park press is quoting something that richard cesaro said two years prior in an interview with an unspecified entity i can find hundreds of conspiracy blogs repeating the quote but the closest i can get to the original context is this article which i find unsatisfying but oh well even so the article is kind of telling and it shoots some holes in jake's certainty the article does say that cesaro claimed these things but it also says quote initially pandora researchers believed that the irradiation had caused subtle behavioral effects in test animals later however reanalysis of the experimental data raised doubts about its
Starting point is 01:35:55 validity a scientific review panel decided in 1970 that the project should be disbanded it was never tested on humans and the experimental data that cesaro is referring to was found to be dubious upon reexamination this isn't the slam dunk that jake thinks it is and more to the point it's not even a document in the sense that alex is using the terms like this isn't declassified it's nothing it's an asbury park press article wow i'm looking for declassified proof not quotes from an interview that you can't even find the full text of anymore this and also the reason that cesaro was doing this research was because we were afraid of the soviets and communists doing that same research and we didn't want them to have a leg up this is going to be a very consistent pattern that this
Starting point is 01:36:36 stuff uh alex is mysteriously unaware of that motivation that uh they had yeah yep people in america were so paranoid about communism they went on multiple witch hunts uh engaged in non-stop racism uh exploded things left and right and believed in magic for a good long while and and tortured a lot of vulnerable people and tortured a lot of vulnerable people yep yep sucks cool um so let's never do that again before before the we started the show i told you that there were a couple of clips that were essentially uh cold water being splashed in my face yes this is one of them okay this was so shocking even masks are another example of trapping you into your physical body it's another anchor that brings you back into lower emotions you're
Starting point is 01:37:34 afraid of dying even though you can't die because everything's energy and energy is never created or destroyed it's only transferred to different states first law thermodynamics yes you can't die i think it's safe to say that we have crossed a very serious bridge here not only are you not your physical body but apparently now you can't die dying is impossible since you're just energy and energy can't be created or destroyed i just don't know what to say at this point like a week ago alex was giving growling heart to heart talks to his audience about how it might be time for you to think about killing your family members if you know your family members believe in vaccines now we have this dopey hypnotist and alex trying to sell a bill of goods about how you can't die
Starting point is 01:38:13 and the physical reality isn't real i think this has a high chance of leading to some people getting hurt and i hope whatever jake is paying alex for exposure is worth it to him because this could go so bad this is a smorgasbord of bullshit like if you want to believe anything you can find it in these clips here like they're both talking so fast about so little uh so aggressively that you can just be like hey yeah yeah that one sounds like it resonates with me uh i can't die sure great and uh you know if you got to save the kids from the vaccines oh it's okay and you got to kill your family member they're not really dying they're not dead it's impossible to kill somebody may never die and i watched game of thrones sure yeah you're ironborn
Starting point is 01:39:01 boo boo indeed big boo this is dangerous you want him yet matters never created or destroyed so that means we can't die i read that in science i was wondering if there were ways for alex to get less responsible or more irresponsible and this is definitely a way a little bit surprised that we went straight to you can't die and alex not pushing back on it being our first rural herald alex i mean and that's not even like we're not even in that level of like your soul doesn't die or anything like that he's just straight up like whatever you'll probably be reconstituted into something else somewhere else who cares no no no it's not even that like your soul or what i i guess maybe it's your soul but yeah but it's that you are not your body right this is a rental car
Starting point is 01:39:50 sure that just breaks down if you die right so eh but matter can never be created or destroyed but your body's not matter no no no no no no no no let's stop right here let's stop right here okay if my soul then what's my soul if it is my soul matter is that what he's trying to say is he trying to say that the soul is also physical i don't think he gets into it i would be curious i want to know because i think it does have to have something to do with these fields yep and i wonder if he thinks the fields have any physical existence it would i mean if it if it cannot be created or destroyed then yes it is are the fields of function of the simulation oh that's a good question did the simulators is it a glitch in the simulation that right has the
Starting point is 01:40:37 ability to manipulate these fields around us or whatever i mean it can't be a glitch in the simulation that would be like then it could break and then we'd all die well that's the end of the world yeah that's i mean i guess that's fine if we all die it's like nobody died there's a lot of questions that come up that are not answered no let's just say that's fair so uh we get to another example of what is supposed to be a document uh i'm not sure that is the case everybody go to resetwars.com sign up right now resetwars.com and sign up right now for the early bird list because look they've got all these they say um DARPA quote the name of the program is to remotely disrupt political dissonant and extremism by employing transgranule magnetic stimulation in tandem with
Starting point is 01:41:34 sophisticated propaganda based on this technology and then you read it it's 5g basically yeah that's what you heard the entire i mean and think about that think about it think about it alex has to keep chiming in with that oh we gotta make this something our audience can kind of relate to so it's gotta be 5g over and over again we're getting a little bit hard out here so jake's quote there isn't from a document or anything official it's the characterization that's been given to comments made by an anonymous whistleblower as written up on the website blog activist post firstly activist post is a dumb website with a heavy conspiracy leaning bend it's basically a less ambitious info wars without a charismatic lead singer like alex here's all you need to know about this site
Starting point is 01:42:19 the fourth book listed on their recommended reading list is aides incorporated by john rapaport yep john rapaport's aides denialism book really number four on their reading list honestly i was like oh well it's obviously gonna be behold a pale horse or something like that but and then you went to rapaport yep rapaport told me that they can't even hang up a fucking picture yep along with this on the reading list are books by info wars favorites like webster tarpley mark dice david ike and for good measure another book by rapaport also none dare call it conspiracy yeah anyway this was a post about an anonymous whistleblower contacting them and telling them that darpa was running a study at arizona state university that was meant to use transcranial
Starting point is 01:43:01 magnetic stimulation to affect the brain's narrative processing this was a real project that was undertaken by asu titled quote toward narrative disruptors and inductors mapping the narrative comprehension network and its persuasive effects what what this really comes down to is interpretation like if you want to look at this project and say it's evil there's no way i'm going to be able to talk you out of that and at the same time i don't think it's evil and i really don't think that i could be convinced that it is the study is essentially about how the brain creates narratives and ways that you can effectively help the narratives be more persuasive and conversely how you can disrupt the persuasiveness of narratives the hope was to be able to construct a better
Starting point is 01:43:45 understanding of the brain's narrative comprehension network which will quote lead to a fuller understanding of the influence narrative has on memory emotion theory of mind identity and persuasion which in turn influence the decision to engage in political violence or join violent groups or support such groups ideologically or financially the research focused on the persuasiveness of narratives as experienced by christian and muslim subjects these groups were selected because religiously speaking they have many overarching similarities in what they call the master narrative as well as many differences so they would it would make the personal aspect of interacting with the narrative much more informative yeah of course the first phase of the study was quote
Starting point is 01:44:28 participants will watch a series of video vignettes imagine certain details about those videos and make decisions that should be influenced by the videos the group participants where they were grouped in two by two models where the differences were whether the master narrative which is the religious narrative whether that mapped with the local narrative which is the video vignettes that's the first variable right and then how the local narrative is related to their personal narrative so the two options in the personal narrative section would be or that that that sort of option would be they'd be asked to imagine themselves in the narrative for 30 seconds or they would be asked to imagine the semantic consequences of the narrative for
Starting point is 01:45:09 30 seconds so the first one for the personal narrative it makes it personalized whereas the latter is a detached analytical analytical thing yeah so afterwards the participants would answer questions about the video they watched and what they thought about it at the end quote participants would make a judgment about how much of their research payment they would like to allocate to a particular particular religious group through the experiment neural images would be taken to help understand the parts of the brain that were activated when different aspects of relating to narrative are happening because they didn't want to rely on self-reporting right because that could be inaccurate okay so if i understand please get yeah let me see if you understand let me let me try
Starting point is 01:45:51 and uh get this right if i understand correctly what they're trying to find out is how much do the stories that we tell ourselves uh that we believe affect what we actually believe and if you can interrupt or uh influence the story that somebody is telling themselves in order to interrupt influence their current belief about what's going on somewhat but the interrupting and inducting are kind of part of later stages of this it's more about seeing how the relationship between the videos that people are being shown whether or not it matches with their religious belief what the fact that has on their response to it right right and then secondarily what response personalizing it has to do like imagining yourself in the narrative that's in the video as opposed to
Starting point is 01:46:43 critically analyzing it as uh like the semantic consequences sure sure sure get rid of your own story and see what somebody else's story or or think about somebody else's story or conversely if it matches your religious narrative your master narrative think about yourself within that or critically examine your own yes got you so there are a bunch of different aspects to it and you know it's an interesting study i think yeah yeah i agree so then the second phase of the experiment was similar but they changed the aspects of the relationship with narrative that were being examined in this phase the two variables were narrative validity so that would be valid or invalid sure and transportation which is to say whether or not
Starting point is 01:47:27 the narrative is immersive to the person experiencing it so those were the two variables that were messed with in the second phase other than that it was basically the same layout as the first phase three is where all the hullabaloo comes in in this phase they plan to use transcranial magnetic stimulation to disrupt parts of the brain associated with narrative comprehension ideally to see how that affects overall comprehension and persuasion i admit that that sounds like a bit much but the other two phases are completely innocuous research projects much like any you'd see taking place on any college campus every day and the third really isn't as fucked up as it sounds no no no that makes i mean that makes sense because the other
Starting point is 01:48:09 question is is it a physical process all of that stuff that we've talked about is entirely within the consciousness not even necessarily uh what you would call the brain or whatever when you add the transcranial uh uh magnetics uh then you take it from something that is what you are thinking to something that is actually physical that you can measure and you can't you can with the neural imaging as well sure sure sure there are there are elements of what this this was aiming to determine but it's kind of irrelevant because i can find this grant proposal and there are contracts from the department of the interior and there's status updates going up to june 2013 that have been released but that's where any documentation drops off none of these conspiracy blogs that talk about
Starting point is 01:48:59 this have anything past that point which i thought was a little bit weird until i took a closer look at the contracts the department of the interior had agreed to fund phase one but it didn't commit to the other two those were optional i can find no evidence that the very scary phase three of this experiment was ever actually done and if jake can prove that it was i would encourage him to share that evidence with me i actually have fairly strong circumstantial evidence that it didn't get extended past phase one uh because i found the project manager steven korman's resume and he lists this grant in it in the spring 2012 but that's it it doesn't appear again conversely a spring 2009 grant he was awarded on a project regarding quote embedding story and now analysts in expeditionary
Starting point is 01:49:45 units is listed again in summer 2013 when the grant got extended if the study that we're talking about had gotten extended that would mean a couple million extra dollars of funding which you better believe he's going to put on his resume universities love that shit oh yeah the extension that he got for the other project that he put on his resume that was only for two hundred fifty thousand dollars oh man like he would absolutely put in as an accomplishment right got this refunded right all right because if they funded the first bit and then they release the funds for the second bit you've got some promising shit going on right and that means maybe you'll get the third bit and you ushered through this program that that's really great for universities because they really
Starting point is 01:50:27 like to be able to have their professors and their researchers have have claimed to like we did we did this research a prestigious professor brings prestige to the university yes yeah so here's what's going on here there was a scary sounding project at arizona state university which an anonymous whistleblower told activists post about they're just a conspiracy blog so they characterize the study as an attempt to create mind control and jake is just reading copy from that blog instead of engaging with the actual material and the research program itself this is sloppy work hypnotist i'm very unhappy yeah that it didn't actually happen i prefer to be well let me about things that happened let me be clear it may have happened but i have no
Starting point is 01:51:15 evidence that it did and strong indications that it didn't uh yeah i cannot prove definitively that it didn't happen sure sure i'm i mean they could have secretly funded the program after that yeah exactly the ball is in jake's court to prove that it actually happened that's why the burden of proof of his apartment i find no evidence of that okay so um look you want your dreams to come true no well oh wait no i mean if you did the desires that i have or my actual no no not your actual i feel like we're in a situation where maybe he's going to tell me that my dreams might come true if they put a magnet on my fucking head do you want to get chased by a giraffe see that's what i'm saying i'm worried no no no like your fantasies okay okay well if you want that sure your fantasies
Starting point is 01:52:00 to come true right you got to go to reset wars we've got a step in our office as sentient conscious beings made the image of god with free will and then do what we want we have to stop submitting the outside stimuli and that's what reset wars exposes is they've got their reset to stop us from awakening this is the real reset and imagine if everybody realizes that imagine if that if the nurse that's in the medical system that's fed up with it but thinks she's powerless realizes she can create her own private practice and it can eventually become the biggest private practice in texas imagine if the if the english teacher realizes that she can create the most one of the most powerful schools in california and you just start going down the line you realize the broadcaster
Starting point is 01:52:42 that wants to be like alex shones and oan can actually tap in to the same spiritual energy that's moving through all of us and they can utilize that to become incredibly powerful to become the next we're not gonna get upset they're successful because they're freeing us man it's moments like that where the hypnotist and motivational speaker style conman really come out and jake oh yeah this is just meaningless platitudes where the fulfillment of all your dreams will happen so easily if you just follow this guy's plan which is basically what his youtube channel is all about already it's hollow embarrassing and exploitative like okay yeah like you want to encourage people to take a chance and start their own business or whatever hey why not but in
Starting point is 01:53:23 insinuating that doing so is like you're going to be the most successful practice in the state or whatever that's exploitative of people's aspirations yeah this is wolf of wall street shit this is like oh okay sell me this pen and then you do the whole thing and then you find jesus and then you're a motivational speaker it goes that quick and as a broadcaster i have no desire to be like alex and definitely no desire to be like oan that would be so horrifying you know i mean it's so funny to me that the when you're when you're in that that like let go of your body detach from physical material stuff all all of that it goes two directions you know it can go with well if you're detaching then what's the point of all that stuff just let it go don't worry about
Starting point is 01:54:08 your fantasies just be part of one you know that whole thing or the other ways to go is if you believe hard enough you'll get a lot of money come on now huh which one do you want to go with dan i just want these guys to shut up me too i'd like to manifest them shutting off me too or conversely i'd like to manifest them getting to the god damn document that would be great because that would be great it's not happening if i manifested that would like six of your clips just disappear i'm manifesting myself skipping this next clip because it's really just splitting hairs about alex misquoting einstein sure um but you know he alex has got to spin his wheels a little bit about vaccines right right right why do you think jake did see great research we'll get back
Starting point is 01:54:51 into the mind control and how to counter it great research just want to kill so many people now i guess they just figure statistically there's a giant awakening just to just kill them but if we kill them with the military they'll rise up and defeat us we gotta do it through medicine well i mean even if bezos had that really bizarre speech the other day or quote the other day when he was talking about how they're gonna turn earth into a nature preserve and everyone's gonna live in space i mean they realize they don't really need most people right and that's what this is all about and when we go into all these documents you know for it can be a little scary right it's like oh my gosh they have all these like psychological warfare weapons they're using on us but i want to say that's why
Starting point is 01:55:32 alex put together reset yeah if you're conscious of their operation it's came on like what does gi joe say knowing is half the battle knowing is half the battle at this point in the interview i'm going to be straight up with you i'm starting to get a little bit resentful when any time is taken to talk about something that is not the main point of reset wars they've already laid out the central premise and promised to go super deep into it and yet alex is wasting time waxing philosophical about why globalists would choose various methods to kill us it's super frustrating also to jake's point at this point he's gone over exactly zero documents he's made references to an article in activist post and quoted heavily uh though imprecisely from
Starting point is 01:56:11 a canadian news story about a podcast series great research stand when people insist that they're gonna get deep into a topic then dance around the edges a little bit and then incessantly promote a different show they do and ramble about bullshit like how you can't die that generally means they don't actually have a deep familiarity with the topic they're pretending to that's a strong vibe i'm getting from these dudes i'm feeling that too i was i was waiting for you to say it first because i didn't want to embarrass myself if that wasn't the case so but now that you've said it was a grand reveal now that you've said it i'm feeling more comfortable two hours into this podcast i reveal that they actually are right no also uh let's not forget that the
Starting point is 01:56:52 knowing is half the battle catchphrase comes from a series of psas that featured gi joe characters which was produced by a harvard child psychologist and endorsed by the national child safety council sounds pretty globalist to me yeah the gi joe folks only even made them as a cynical attempt to garner goodwill because they didn't want people to get mad that their show was just a toy commercial targeted at kids that screamed war is cool i would think that especially considering how this episode is all about how elite psychologists are trying to mind control us into changing our behavior alex should be pointing out how these psas are a perfect example of exactly that these folks wanted to alter the behavior of children by having advice come from characters that they loved which was
Starting point is 01:57:34 taking them off their natural trajectory in a natural uninfluenced state a child wouldn't know to not give strangers their address but oh the national child safety council wants to come along and push their agenda what the fuck it is it is always funny to me how they pick and choose what things are conspiracies and uh you know and then they just take a lot of shit for granted like like five g is terrifying two g was fine two g two g was fine now i yelled about two g when it happened sure but now that we're on to five g two g turned out was fine and it turns out that the five g is going to be fine but once six g comes along holy shit also dude i want to slightly unrelated but in preparation for this episode because i was getting bored at these
Starting point is 01:58:18 assholes sure i ended up watching a bunch of those g i joe psas and i gotta say the joes had some fine advice but they were getting seriously involved in stuff that doesn't concern them they need to mind their own fucking business like i don't need flint scolding me for picking on the goalie on my soccer team for allowing a goal that's some pretty small scale stuff for an elite military unit to be doing and honestly what's flint doing at that soccer game to begin with he doesn't have kids but but uh i wasn't a g i joe guy i was uh i was a star scream man i was a transformers cat i didn't care much for g i actually i should say my parents didn't allow me to watch g i just too violent when i was a kid but i have some awareness of this and these these psas are
Starting point is 01:59:00 hilarious that's crazy there's there's it's such small scale stuff like some of it is great advice like don't uh tell strangers you're home alone great good right right great but some of it is like hey if someone wants you to jump over a ditch that's too big don't do it put us put a bridge on yeah sure sure i mean but what are they gonna be like hey listen real quick we can't allow Saudi Arabia to have nuclear weapons anyways knowing is half the battle let girl skateboard with you they're they're slightly different i just think i i don't know what g i joe is doing getting mixed up uh and the minute affairs of this small town you know it's it's just military propaganda you know it's like whenever cops say that they give a shit about you 96 of crime isn't
Starting point is 01:59:52 violent or whatever the bullshit is who cares there's one where like a bunch of like three kids four kids are on their bike and they're heading towards a railroad crossing uh and then out of nowhere one of the judges pops up and he explains them what a railroad crossing side means really yeah and i see now in a real version of that commercial is a g i joe pops up while i'm riding my bike and i throw the bike at him and then get hit by a fucking train what's he doing waiting at that train trying to try to influence he's a troll he's a troll near a bridge anyway it's it's bizarre and i recommend people go watch those yeah i think that's great PSA is with a critical eye especially if you're bored of a hypnotist and a fucking washed up drunk doing nothing
Starting point is 02:00:36 anyway we get back to trying to promote reset wars we're saying go right now sign up to reset wars dot com get on the early bird list because once mark zuckerberg sees us he's kicking metaverse into high gear he's gonna be like we must get metaverse set up to trap people into lower dimensions notice it all happens at the same time we play on the six months the the reset wars is the answer to the metaverse wait really so now we've hit bingo on the shitty used car salesman techniques card that jake is trying to use to sell reset wars you gotta sign up for it now so alex and jake can harvest your contact information because if you wait it could be too late once mark zuckerberg finds out that this drunk and his hypnotist friend what they're up to he's gonna lock us in the mega
Starting point is 02:01:23 multiverse to sweet listen i got a lot of people looking at this car and you can take a look at it firstly i'm gonna i'm gonna be able to hold it for maybe 25 30 minutes that's about as good as i can do buddy yeah this is just dumb it's a manipulative trick to get listeners to sign up for this email list mark zuckerberg could give a shit about this no kid does not care the moment we release reset wars zuckerberg is gonna put the metaverse into high gear do you imagine mark zuckerberg sitting in a boardroom being like what are you kid reset wars doosie no not doosie i gotta get the team together oh no this this money hypnotism grifter it's gonna take down the metaverse man i have money so big it's not real so i mean look i think
Starting point is 02:02:15 that this reset wars is going to be really disappointing and probably lacking in substance based on this presentation that they've given so far sure but one of jake's friends listened to it and he stopped drinking he's shown to a bunch of people and have had huge success i've had i've had friends quit drinking from it i've had a friend that's been watching you for 15 years saying he's watched thousands of episodes and it was literally the most powerful thing that he'd ever seen you put together because you never you know all this stuff but you've never put it together you helped me sit down for months and write it all down we've been meeting after meeting after meeting to write this out you made me do it i appreciate that and so i wanted to come on today
Starting point is 02:02:56 just in honor of that where in honor of it where are the documents asshole what the fuck also i would love to be a fly on the wall for those meetings oh my god for those meetings where they're writing this up holy shit that would be so i mean they got a whiteboard they don't even have a whiteboard nope they've just got spaghetti in there literally throwing at a wall with refrigerator magnets and whatever letter pops up is the one they win number one i don't think these meetings happen where they're really getting down to business and writing this stuff i think that's a fantasy but i can imagine no more annoying thing than the the idea of this meeting and god i would love to i'd love to watch it it would be it would be the nightmare for anybody else but for me oh that
Starting point is 02:03:41 would be fun i whenever he said he got a friend to quit drinking after watching it i imagined in my head that immediate moment where his friend is drunk and he's watching this and then he looks at the brown bottle and just goes nah i get this is clearly the yeah this is the bottle's fault the bottle led me to this moment yeah i gotta get rid of this or i immediately thought like okay so watching it got someone to stop drinking but making it didn't get alex to stop drinking maybe alex should watch it you know he's he's only on the tenth step he never made it to the eleventh yeah so uh like uh info wars right that's tomorrow's news today but what is reset wars info wars is tomorrow's news today but reset wars is tomorrow's wisdom today this is you historically what tyrants
Starting point is 02:04:34 always try to stop everybody from finding out so you better believe that when they actually find out that they put reset wars together there's a good chance that they're gonna try to shut it down they're gonna try to shut the website down that's why you gotta go right now and sign up at reset wars dot com alex has it coming out in early december it's gonna be massive so this is wild conjecture on my part but i noticed something strange when i was looking at the who is data for this new website reset wars okay alex is pretty consistent with the hosting that he uses for his website info wars band video news wars these sites are all hosted by epic because he knows that no matter what he does no matter what criticism he gets epic is not going to take his
Starting point is 02:05:18 shit down that company is fine hosting all manner of objectionable content and is essentially the last refuge for internet shitheads epic if you're a nazi come on over we don't mind uh it's the damnedest thing but reset wars isn't hosted by epic it's just a url they registered through go daddy so it actually would potentially be far more likely to be taken offline if go daddy didn't want to be associated with alex and his content there have certainly been instances of go daddy doing exactly this like when they pulled their services from hosting gab in 2018 this is complicated because on the one hand i think it's far too conspiracy theory thinking to claim that alex intentionally put this website up on a less secure hosting platform because he actually
Starting point is 02:06:02 wants it to be taken down but on the other hand the circumstantial evidence is kind of interesting like if the site were taken down he'd be able to grandstand about how he's the victim how they don't want this information getting out and he'd be able to pretend he's a prophet because he predicted they'd take the site down i don't think that this is an intentional thing on his part but it's fishy as hell like why wouldn't he host this on epic yeah all of the other sites that he runs are hosted there i mean it doesn't make sense i can i can imagine a non-conspiratorial way which is uh being dumb dumps uh like maybe the site was set up by ducy and ducy is still on youtube so he was like i'll just use my regular uh hosting platform yeah i can see that that is a possibility i suppose i
Starting point is 02:06:51 can also see what you're saying totally i can't imagine alex doing the most important work of his career launching this website and then being like yeah let's let's let the hosting be on something that is potentially vulnerable you're very right about that it seems weird to me yeah and they are pushing that like this is so dangerous narrative really hard yeah like if you do actually believe it to be so dangerous you'd be playing preemptive right right right and one of the ways you would do that is hosted in the most secure place possible which leads me to believe that maybe they have an expectation that this website might get taken down it's useful as a contact information harvesting thing to get people's email addresses and then all the content can just be published on band.video
Starting point is 02:07:37 because that's on epic and it's totally fine so the theory that we're operating or not we're operating under but the theory that i'm hearing is that it's possible they are using this as a phishing website for right now once the content is released on the website they're expecting it to be taken down because go daddy is like hey no nazis then whenever the content is taken down they put it back onto band.video grandstand about how they've been i think the content will always also be on band.video yeah well i mean you know in there in their telling of it i don't want to say that that's a theory because i think that that's a little bit like conspiracy devious yeah and it's a little out there no totally but the actual pieces of information are what that would be there
Starting point is 02:08:26 if that's what they were doing right right right no it could be an accident might not be i'm i'm leaning towards the Occam's razor of dumb oversight yeah from these dumb dumps that sounds like the most obvious and likely i think i agree with you on that right that front but the information that you are pointing out is very suspicious and and one of the reasons i wanted to bring it up is i think that obviously i agree with you the most likely explanation is incompetence but on the off chance that this does end up happening right i want to be able to have said uh look look at this hey like let's say yeah yeah yeah i mean and when the stakes are this high maybe they're putting more planning into it i don't know the stakes could not be higher maybe maybe so this next clip is deranged
Starting point is 02:09:14 okay it's the we are not going to win by just yelling about in front of a in front of a building the programs had to leave the netherlands they had to build a new country what are you gonna build a new thing and what are we doing and once everybody realizes one by one we go oh my gosh consciousness creates reality i've been programmed to believe i'm not that smart i can't make money i'm not that good at this i've been programmed through an emotional pattern that's been memorized in my brain and nervous system that i've a that i'm have a a tendency towards depression once we break out of that entire software system and re-engineer it that's when it's game over that's when the entire we have confidence in you folks we believe in empowering you i i just think alex
Starting point is 02:09:57 is like a whole idea like we need to make a new country is is i mean it's probably metaphorical but even so it's fucked up sure and jake being like hey look protesting isn't gonna do anything right right also i think in terms of like saying that hey i've been trained to think that i have tendency towards depression is really insulting and i mean what would he would he say that the man has you know conditioned me to believe that my arm is broken after i've fallen off a roof right like all you have to do is believe because look your arm is is it looks like it's broken but really it's not even matter it's not even solid matter you just need to use your mind to believe that your arm is fine and then it is yeah here's what i'm thinking all right and this is my pitch okay i'm
Starting point is 02:10:43 gonna try and solve everything real quick all right good luck when i was in uh when i was in high school i was playing sports you know and uh all of the sports coaches had uh uh inspirational slogans sure the like posters that said believe you know the whole thing hang in there yeah yeah now i'm gonna toss this out there what if we had posters in high school locker rooms that just lay out exactly what propagandists and con men say huh they'd be longer posters but i mean look i've heard this speech yeah word for word from a million different con men this is the one this is the speech yeah you know it's it's it's very boilerplate yeah so just put it on the high school wall you can tap it right before the game you know get yourself pumped up like i'm not gonna get caught
Starting point is 02:11:30 by a con man and that would pump me up i'm not gonna get conned someday that would be nice that's a big pump up i think i think even what you could do is just a poster that says don't trust hypnotists they're sketchy weirdos yeah maybe we should shorten it to instead of the poster that says believe it just says don't believe yeah yeah so um i got to this point in the episode and i kind of realize like they're not gonna get to anything no brainwash yourself before the world brainwash is right so so be aware of the programming be aware of the systems be calm about it and trust god to guide you out of it and then just realize that this stuff exists and that's how you transcend it and then that's really what reset wars is and we go through examples and the history of it and how
Starting point is 02:12:19 to do it and you know when alex was was filming this you know alex is alex doesn't like to promote promote stuff but i just think that the reset war is the greatest thing he ever did alex doesn't like to promote alex rarely but it's very humble it's what i mean it's about people finding what they need and if they need it they'll find it man i'm fucking furious about this shit because they promised they were gonna get into the weeds and talk about these documents so i read up on a bunch of stuff and i found you know i found some stuff that was perfect for them to talk about it's like this what i'm about to bring up it's real it has to do with mind control and it's easy to find the actual documents okay these dudes are legit running a self-help hypnosis style scam here
Starting point is 02:13:04 and just pretending that it has anything to do with the real world or declassified documents because if they were serious at all they would have fun with this one in september 1965 researchers working within the cia embarked on a study to attempt to remote control the behavior of a dog by way of providing rewarding electrical stimulation to parts of the dog's brain admittedly this sounds really fucked up at first glance but then again people trained dogs to do all sorts of things by way of conditioning it's not like the dog wants to sit or roll over it has to be trained if it does it gets the reward that it wants this operates in a very similar principle just using electrical stimulation of reward centers in the dog's brain or at least the goal was to see if
Starting point is 02:13:44 this was possible we could give them a treat or we could cut open a skull put some neural impulses right onto the pleasure center for the brain and see how that goes sure nobody wants to train their dog it's hard this is remarkable stuff from a dystopian science perspective uh you know like you could look at this and be like aha but honestly if you read the final report on it it's really hard to come away thinking it has any practical applications particularly in terms of use on humans right but it's amazing right for one thing human brains are very different than dog brains and humans rely far less on instinct than dogs do in terms of their behavior it would be exceedingly hard to conceive of how you would program a routine of electrical stimuli that would
Starting point is 02:14:26 get a human to do complex actions especially considering uh all they were able to do with this dog is get it to walk from one place to another uh well you know it's slow slow growth is still growth sure also in order to accomplish this they needed to put electrodes in the dog's head mount it with a protective helmet and a stimulator pack which could be activated remotely but only from a fairly limited distance yeah yeah the sixties were wild man the researchers tried to see if they could figure out how to actually elicit actions from the dog through electrical stimulation but found that it wasn't an area worth exploring so they only ended up doing reward center training they found that the dogs had a strong tendency to do the thing that they were
Starting point is 02:15:06 doing just before they got their reward stimulation so as they pointed out in the report if they were moving forward they would continue to move forward so you could get a dog to continue to move forward great by uh keeping on stimulating the reward center of its brain right right additionally they found that dogs had a tendency to move forward in the direction their head was facing when they got the stimulation this was an observation that researchers made that allowed them to have anything resembling remote control of the dog kind of appeared to be remote control right another problem they found was that it's fairly difficult to get these electrical reward stimulations to work when there are other competing stimuli around like food unless
Starting point is 02:15:46 the stimulation was quote at optimum levels it's hard to predict how this would work in the real world like in the wild where the dog would have a multitude of things to gather uh get its attention or to chase sure the researchers concluded that quote while the electrode preparation has been satisfactory for research purposes it is unlikely that it would serve over very long periods of time right there was also the problem of needing a person to monitor the precise movements of the dog in order to continue reinforcing the behavior that's desired that would require constant visual coverage of the dog at all times which doesn't seem too helpful outside of lab applications right like if you were trying to get the dogs to work as scouts essentially sure sure sure it would be so
Starting point is 02:16:26 complicated and the idea of being able to like like challenging terrain right right right instead let's try training with food and not cutting open brains yeah i get it this is mighty bizarre stuff and obviously the ethical implications of how these dogs are treated is a serious concern but it's not the kind of super nightmarish it the conspiracy theorists want everyone to imagine it to be and they don't even talk about this see the worst thing is i'm so furious that's the type of evil science you know where you're like you guys should really just fucking stop that right the the evil scientist who kept who like kept the dog's head alive after the body was removed for like a few hours let's see more of how that goes i want future rama style heads and jars that's what i'm
Starting point is 02:17:10 looking more towards as opposed to like getting a constant hand job from electrodes you got to manifest that then okay i was furious that they didn't talk about this because it's perfect yeah it's right in the real house of what they're talking about it really is but if you if you start talking about conspiracies that you can look into people are going to start wanting to look into all your conspiracies that's why they all have to be impossible to look and they have to be vague uh the source saying you can't make clear because if you do yeah it's well think about the think about the excitement you got from finding this story and finding and learning something interesting and then finding out it was real imagine if somebody who really believed in conspiracies actually got
Starting point is 02:17:53 that real feeling well they would present this as the scientists have figured out a way to make humans do whatever they want by hitting pleasure centers in their brain sure sure that's what's being recreated by all sure yeah uh so anyway uh this is stupid this next clip ends in the stupidest way what i'm saying is once you reach out pass what cnn tells you to do and forget them and they're you know jimmy costa and all that and and and barack obama and and and and all these people once you reach out to the universe to god god's gonna answer and and not just barack obama or think about the idea of this newtonian model of physics that we're still so attached to this newtonian model of physics is everything is physical in the universe and energies this
Starting point is 02:18:42 unextranable side phenomena max plank already showed us he won the Nobel prize studying atoms and he said there's no matter as such that matter jumps back and forth underscored parameters into another dimension and back it disappears and comes back it fluxes and that's why what if people realize the secrets of quantum physics and how to harness the power of consciousness if we already know the observer effect shows us that subatomic particles are sometimes particles and sometimes they're waves they're energy that moves into another dimension and what's everything the same energy so your bank account is an observer effect eh eh your bank account is an observer effect are you trying to tell me uh-huh that if I were to put my money in a box with a ccm at him
Starting point is 02:19:30 after a certain length of time there'd be an exactly 50-50 shift that there would be all the money or none of the money well and um you know the amount of money that's in your bank account is a function of whether or not you're observing right right right right right no if you're not observing it the wave function collapses naturally yes no no no I get it clearly cool cool how dare you tell me I'm fascinated how dare you tell me that we're stuck in this Newtonian physics point of view yeah oh my god I do like that though that Alex is trying to get you to transcend cnn and Barack Obama right right and Jake is trying to get you to fuck off from Newtonian physics the two of them seem to have slightly different agendas so anyway uh you can break
Starting point is 02:20:20 out a debt sure if you just use the observer effect of course your bank account is an observer effect once thousands of people realize this and they all break out of debt servitude once thousands of people realize that they could change the the uh the the health system you can build private practices you can change the education system the tech system once people start using the power of consciousness to experiment on this reality and go if all of energy is affected all of reality is affected by subatomic particles that consciousness creates reality I can depatter myself from the world be transformed by the renewing of your mind and then I can use the power of consciousness to do thought experiments to start to recreate my life and I think that's
Starting point is 02:21:04 the next step that they don't want us to know they don't want us to start to test the power of consciousness and say uh can I create this new business this new movement can I change education system can I get out of debt and create my business bigger and better than ever before and that's why I'm pounding the table saying go to resetwars.com right now this is the key that kid's too thirsty for this wow this this plug wow holy okay Dan sir I have to tell you something right now I have invented the greatest machine in the history of the United States let me tell you something sir this machine this simple machine it can fit on your desk sir it can fit on your desk and it will take whatever rock you find whether it be lead whether it be sodium whether it be
Starting point is 02:21:49 sedimentary it doesn't matter and it will take that rock and transmogrify it into gold sir so imagine what would happen if thousands of people had these devices in their homes every morning they would wake up and they would find more money waiting for them yep um this is aspirational bullshit yeah basically it's a scam yep yes yep there's one person who's making a lot of money off and I just love like this like you can sense it and it does come to a head a little bit towards the end like Alex is kind of getting fed up with how much he's promoting the website you should go to resetwars.com it's getting a little bit too much it's already too much even for Alex it's too much for us and you've only played a few clips oh yeah there are way
Starting point is 02:22:39 more instances of it than I than I included even oh I believe you and I think another thing that Alex doesn't like or wouldn't like is uh Jake seems to be really comfortable taking over the show I've got a daughter she's 16 17 months old I'm concerned about what everything's happening too but just finding out the secrets of the pharmaceutical industry isn't going to save us the next step to actually defeat the great reset is we have to realize we are energetic spiritual beings in a physical body there's no such thing as death we're the imagination of ourselves we're already in a simulation but we control that reality and that's exactly what reset wars is showing you very simple we are no longer NPCs we are real players as Christ intended us to be
Starting point is 02:23:23 all right go to resetwars.com right now sign up wow I just I know Alex well enough from his his observing his work yeah he does not like it when other people go to break uh uh uh he goes to break that's my job buddy you're taking my job yeah that's that's insulting oh boy that's disrespectful that is that is and I love it if it were if it were somebody who weren't so patently evil it would be better but what are you gonna do yeah I enjoy it though because I think that there's just inherent tensions that that exist here between these two people yeah first of all their worldviews are completely incompatible oh yeah they may not realize it right now maybe because Jake needs promotion and Alex needs money right so maybe they can get over
Starting point is 02:24:14 these fundamental differences they have or at least pretend to sure but it will be a problem at some point yeah yeah it's gonna be tough to hang around with time and time is an illusion and so is death guy all the time get annoying also like if you just go through his youtube channel I swear everything is so fucking repetitive yeah he covers the same things over and over again with just clickbait yeah he's a hypnotist yeah yeah I mean he's literally yeah it's a good point yeah I just imagine hanging out with him would get old uh real quick oh yeah oh yeah unless you're hypnotized and then maybe it'd be fun but we're getting towards the end of the the interview that they have okay and I think Alex is kind of realizing like we haven't gotten to these documents
Starting point is 02:24:56 no we really haven't gotten to much of anything nope maybe we've cited two articles Fauci flip flopped on masks that's true oh and there was also the ASU study that they were uh misrepresenting right but let's get back let's get back to this let's get to the doctor and so I want to continue here with some of these articles because there's so many and this one's fascinating Alex so this is about beamed energy to affect human behavior and it says quote so while initial attention should be toward degradation of human performance through thermal loading and electromagnetic field effects that means heat them right up and and electromagnetic field effects remember we are all just an electromagnetic documents you have on their
Starting point is 02:25:44 mainline declassified say they manipulate our electrical field that's what it's saying right here that this is a non-lethal energy weapon so this is from a document I can find cited on all kinds of sketchy conspiracy websites but they really just use this same quote and they claim the source is slight variations on the title air force 1982 final report on biotechnology research requirements for aeronautical systems through the year 2000 okay I'm noticing a pattern that most of them don't have links even when this report is real it's a real document it was prepared by the southwest research institute in san antonio with cooperation from the air force aerospace medical division it was released on july 30th 1982 and it has never been classified
Starting point is 02:26:29 as you might expect from clues in the documents title this is a study of potential issues that could come up for future pilots which could have biotechnical logical solutions this document does indeed say quote initial attention should be directed toward organ specific thermal loading electromagnetic field effects folks like jake or I'd call dumb dumb liars just choose to read that and not pay attention to the next sentence quote subsequent work should address the possibilities of directing and interrogating mental functions to provide revolutionary capability to defend against hostile actions when this document says that initial attention should be directed toward thermal loading and electromagnetic effects it's saying that these things are things
Starting point is 02:27:13 to be concerned about pilots of the future possibly being up against anyone who's as much as looked at this document or read the title critically would know that it's very obvious yeah but conspiracy theorists took it too far and then southwest had to spin off into an airline that's didn't see that coming didn't these specific fine this specific quote comes from a section of the text titled radiation environments i'll read to you the first paragraph of that section quote electromagnetic and particulate radiation produced by nuclear weapons high-energy lasers and future high-powered pulsed radio frequency radiation systems represent potential anti-personnel devices for the year 2000 and beyond lasers and rfr systems add a new dimension of crew
Starting point is 02:28:00 vulnerability that clearly requires protective devices and materials for hardening normal aircraft systems that's what this is about it's not about developing beamed energy to change human behavior get inside your brain another thing that's important to point out is that the exact wording that jake is using doesn't match the actual text of the document so i know that he's reading this from one of the conspiracy blogs that just misquotes the text and takes it out of context that's the depth of his research on the topic that he cares he's pretending he cares so much about it this guy's a fucking loser right right so the document says like hey let's think about what might blow up our planes later and he turned that into hey let's create weapons to control
Starting point is 02:28:40 people's brains yes okay by presenting the quote as erroneously is this jake has revealed to the world that either he's read this document and he's intentionally lying about it or he hasn't read it and a misrepresented quote on a dumb conspiracy blog is good enough for him to try to pass off to his audience as proof of a grand mind control plot that the government is hatching to convince you that you're a physical being and that death is real this dude's straight up the worst i just can't handle this bullshit yeah i want documents and i'm finding these documents and they don't say what these people say right right that is an issue and i understand that mega frustrating now have you thought about this perhaps it is an observer phenomena and so when you're looking at the
Starting point is 02:29:22 documents they say what you want them to say dan but when you're not looking at the documents they say what they say dan it's all about being an electromagnetic field all right i gotta go okay okay so uh it goes on this document goes on according to jake and it goes on it says by using very low frequency electromagnetic radiation the waves way below radio frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum they found they could induce the brain to release behavior regulating chemicals which is what you were talking about earlier subduing the crowds with electromagnetic fields and they could put people into a stupor jake is saying that the report goes on to say this but it doesn't that's not from this report at all that's a reference to the earlier thing you was
Starting point is 02:30:09 talking about from the 1997 article in us news and world reports that jake was lying about earlier that's the one about elden bird who had claimed that he used electromagnetic waves to release histamine and rats the article does use the word stupor but it doesn't say that he could put humans into a stupor the sentence is quote we could put animals into a stupor jake is mixing up his shitty sources and he's not even citing them correctly because much like alex he's a lazy liar but the article apparently goes on and it goes on to say that many of the non-lethal weapons under consideration utilize infrared sound and electromagnetic energy including lasers microwave or radio frequency radiation or visible light pulsed at brainwave frequency welcome to the 5g world it's
Starting point is 02:30:56 not about controlling robots that's a side issue it's about controlling side but if you're conscious in their own documents and are aware of it it can actually make you get even more upset and outside their control so this also isn't from the same text that jake was talking about and it's not even from that us news and world report article that he jumped to this is supposed to be a quote from Barbara Hatch Rosenberg from 1994 in the bulletin of atomic scientists the bulletin of the atomic scientists is pretty cool in that they have a backlog of all their tables of contents going back to 1945 and it's really easy to access possibly even cooler the group makes these bulletins available on google books so they're pretty easy to find wow the article that the quote
Starting point is 02:31:42 comes from is titled quote non-lethal weapons may violate treaties let's just stop and enjoy that this is actually an article that's arguing that developing non-lethal weapons in many ways the countries have could be a violation of international law something that alex doesn't believe to begin with no no no that's great so more to the point this quote doesn't appear in that text at all this is absolutely the consistent attribution given to this quote on conspiracy blogs but the article that exists in this issue of the bulletin of the atomic scientists says nothing of the sort this is the only article in the journal that was written by Barbara Hatch Rosenberg in 1994 as the citation is constantly given so we can't possibly be wrong about the
Starting point is 02:32:22 attribution well her most recent article before this was in 1987 and then after that she came back for an article in 2006 so she's got a vigorous schedule this is the only one that could possibly be being referred to right by the conspiracy websites right there's another article on this issue about non-lethal weapons but it doesn't include this quote either i kind of think it might be fabricated or deeply misattributed and i'm not really entirely sure which it is i'm pretty sure thomas jefferson wrote it that said the end of the alleged quote is quote the current surge of interest in electromagnetic and similar technologies makes the adoption of a protocol explicitly outlawing the use of these dehumanizing weapons and urgent matter
Starting point is 02:33:04 and i actually do think that that fits uh what appears to be the position of dr Rosenberg and the journal itself generally yeah so i don't think like the text of the quote that he's referring to comes from conspiracy blogs it definitely doesn't come from the source that the blogs say that it comes from right i'm not entirely sure but the end of the quote which he doesn't use actually does fairly accurately depict what dr Rosenberg's views were but that's also talking about advocating for international laws against these things right which would take away us sovereignty and alex would be opposed to that so it's kind of a complicated beast here all i do know for sure is that jake is trying to pass this off as part of a document they're
Starting point is 02:33:45 covering when in reality he's just stitching together completely unrelated and out of context and sometimes possibly apocryphal quotes it's really bad work yeah that's very frustrating yeah this doesn't give me a lot of hope for reset wars no no no i think we've defeated preset wars pretty quickly so alex uh wants to talk about uh how god made us and we have free will but he also uh yells but we're some god made us we have free will you're allowed to mind control yourself you own your body you own your soul you have free will mind control yourself before somebody else does is that your quote yeah brain wash yourself i want a t-shirt that says that i want to make money on that quote give me money give me more money from a different revenue stream i'm gonna
Starting point is 02:34:25 manifest this shirt i'll steal it from someone else i don't know about you but i feel like having someone yell at me that i'm free to mind control myself sounds a lot like a guy trying to intimidate me into taking part in his mind control game hmm i wonder if alex intentionally didn't tell the audience that jake's main profession is being a hypnotist because that would be really suspicious i think that might be a possible choice could be so this is where things get ugly ish not really ugly because they don't really argue but you can tell you can feel there's tension you can feel something here it's palpable so jake is trying to barrel into yet another plug oh boy and listen to how alex cuts him off this is amazing and if subatomic particles that create all reality are
Starting point is 02:35:06 influenced by consciousness we are creating our own enslavement by saying we're screwed we can't do it claus swabs controlling us so that's why i'm saying open up your browser i agree don't just give don't just give claus swab the power open up your browser to god and say god surviving this and not just surviving but thriving during this we didn't get to all these stacks hold on have you ever heard alex interrupt a plug i've never that was astounding oh man open up your browser to listen up listen up you just go up there and you click open a new tab to jesus you just click open that tab to jesus that's oh my shocking that might be a first oh man and when it says when it says close all tabs to the devil you do not press ask again no sir you close all those
Starting point is 02:35:58 tabs one of the primary rules of grifting is don't interrupt a plug let a plug stand don't and apparently he's being so excessive with these plugs that alex has to break that rule that's bad that's amazing that's crazy so they they kind of didn't get into the documents you know you're supposed to leave today and fly back to your family on thanksgiving but we didn't get to the documents check well we have so many of them i mean it's could take us 15 i mean this is the admissions of what's crazy is they're in the news admitting it yeah go so why do you think they metaphysically admit they're doing all this everybody um i think that there's something weird with black magic okay i gotta go this is so stupid why do you think uh why do you think that all of these globalists the conspiracy
Starting point is 02:36:49 theorists that i've been talking about right my entire career saying that they are working literally for the devil and so on and so forth why do you think they want to kill us i mean it's dumb pointless conversation but um i think that there's something magical black magical about the idea that alex is complaining that they haven't gotten to the documents and then instead of getting into documents he talks about how great the documents that they haven't gotten it do are yeah that's abusive also that it would take a lot longer for them to explain those documents certainly if they waste time like this i i mean it's almost like they're asking you to be grateful to them for not getting into the documents i would exhaust you wasn't this a much more entertaining
Starting point is 02:37:31 show so dumb so we have one last clip okay and it's jake doing another one of these manipulative tricks in order to sell reset wars open a new private window to the lord this is incredibly abusive okay and that's why i feel so inspired if you are watching this right now and you don't feel that optimistic you feel angry you feel afraid you feel doubtful that we're gonna win just remember who you are you're a spiritual being in a physical body your body is a rental car it's literally a rental car for your soul we energy's never created or destroyed and when all of us start to wake up and you go to reset wars dot com right now open up your browser and sign up and we start being renewed by the transforming of our mind we will realize we create
Starting point is 02:38:21 reality they do not control us and they cannot win that's just disgusting ah wow if you out there feel like you're missing something you know what you're really missing is entering my revenue stream this commercial should be on at four a.m this is when we should be listening to this i remember should be very drunk in 2015 or 2013 i think uh dr group would come in for like infomercials and like it would just be an hour of them talking about his products yep it's not nearly as disgusting as this this is really fucked up this this is beyond over the top it's counter to alex uh his career um i just i'm i'm i'm blown away by this and i know this this is a longer episode and part of the reasons because i i think that this is it could represent a turning point like legitimately
Starting point is 02:39:13 really could i i don't think i i've felt that way much over the course of the time of us doing the show but like this is a sea change this is weird if sincere this is a sea change yeah if not then this is a really weird cash grab on alex's part yeah where he's willing to engage in this kind of bullshit um but but i'm i'm you know i'm fascinated to see what they end up producing but i also haven't watched this i am really unsure i guess right i'm not confident in their ability for have any depth right right right right i think it'll be blow hard self-help stuff probably and then misquotings of things that's probably what most of it's gonna be but i don't know i i'm still excited to do it because i want to you know critic critics give a critical view to
Starting point is 02:40:07 alex's life's work right right i know it's not it's not better that i mean well i mean okay so at least when dr group was scamming he exchanged goods true you know what i'm saying this guy's exchanging the belief of goods right and that's rude yeah that's rude i know dr group shit doesn't do shit but at least there's shit there you know sure and some of it actually might be good sure like you know you're selling a like a b vitamin or whatever why not it's not gonna kill you yeah belief that your bank account is magical might kill you it certainly could lead you to negative actions yeah it could lead you to believe uh things that could leave your bank account looking a bit worse yeah it's if you observe it well just don't look at it just don't look at it um yeah and then
Starting point is 02:41:02 and then just the merging of ideas about like you know depersonalization of yourself death is impossible yeah merging that with alex's uvra and the ideas that he expresses on a regular basis that are so intensely violent and full of retribution yeah and targeted at the enemy and all this i just think it's a powder cake that i don't know if they realize the kind of fire that is being played with but it's not good yeah i mean when you're saying uh the enemy is killing you you know who they are i'm not telling you to take any violent action combined with death isn't real you're invincible if you choose to be and only if you are manifesting negative emotions can you fail uh and life isn't real and life isn't real yeah and you can't die yeah yeah it's just bad
Starting point is 02:41:56 that's not bad i it's not good i hope this is a small blip and maybe like a little side project that alex is getting paid for but i don't think it is um for one thing one of the things they bring up in the conversation is that they had talked originally about doing something about bitcoin and like financial scam kind of stuff yeah and financial markets and so like they had originally thought about doing that but then they decided to do this series and there was an implication that they're going to do more series so i don't know if they will because i don't know how much this is going to set the world on fire right all right but i think the intention is to possibly do more work like this right like the reset wars or under the category or the
Starting point is 02:42:45 heading of recent wars sure have these series isn't like this one's about your soul or whatever right right and i i mean i think there'll be a certain point where i'll just let alex go do his thing you know like if he starts becoming like a spiritual self-help preacher whatever this nonsense is i that's not us man if you want if you want that shit oh let's see okay well we could do the bitcoin scam and get people to buy cryptocurrency or we could do the fake god scam and get people to buy nothing i actually think that it was uh against bitcoin yeah oh i think that their position would be opposed to it sure well somehow they would be wrong about that too or something yeah they would be right about the point but wrong about the reasons why yeah exactly
Starting point is 02:43:32 which is pretty consistent so we i think with this episode's been long enough uh i would say so i'm terrified of the prospects of what's to come but i always get excited when alex is pretending to try and when there's the pretense of actual documents and i i i leave this cold i found a very little of substance but it was still fun to read a bunch of stuff yeah yeah maybe they'll talk about those documents eventually impossible fingers crossed we'll see if reset wars even releases any video wait a second those documents aren't even real nothing's real that's where the episode should have just cut off like it should have just been empty air after that for like a while too anyway we'll be we'll be back but until then we have a website that isn't real yeah we have a death
Starting point is 02:44:22 isn't real and life is a simulation dot com we also are on a unreal website called twitter uh-huh it's uh at uh watch out for the devil alex shouldn't be worried about the fact that he got kicked off twitter because it's not real yeah i mean i don't know what are we doing anyway we'll be back but until then i'm neil i'm leo i'm dzx cork i'm darryl rondis and now here comes the sex robots which aren't real andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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