Knowledge Fight - #622: June 30-July 1, 2003

Episode Date: December 2, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan dip into the past.  In this installment, the gents learn that they might have been a little off about Alex's history of Satanism claims.  Also, the show takes a turn for the ho...mophobic, and Alex ends up getting some pushback from callers. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello Alex, I'm a big fan and I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, I love you. Everybody, welcome back knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are Dan, Jordan, Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is a little bit iffy kind of, I am not proud of this, but I decided to order Papa
Starting point is 00:01:20 John's the other day. Oh, no. No, I was curious. I hadn't had it in maybe a decade. Yeah, probably haven't had Papa John's and I just have those memories of the garlic sauce. I don't. I have that N word memories, but not the garlic sauce. I don't like the man. Certainly don't like the man, but it was the pizza that would be around in shitty places. Oh, totally. Youth group pizza, youth group, pizza 100. Yeah. And the garlic sauce, it just like it sticks out in your mind. You love it and nothing, nothing lived up to. Oh, no. The pizza was terrible. Imagine. No, I mean the crust was okay. The garlic sauce was not as good as garlic butter. When I was growing up, the Pizza Hut buffet was the height of dining. That's the best. Yeah, it's so good. Pizza
Starting point is 00:02:12 Hut got rid of the buffet. It's why the point. Why even go the point? Same with the KFC had a buffet. KFC's buffet was where my grandma was every Friday. That was there. That was their tradition. When Pizza Hut didn't have the the buffet or anything a little bit later, we had CC's pizza. Oh, yeah, I remember CC's pizza. And that was where we would go. We'd get the worst big blood. See how many pizzas and cinnamon rolls we could eat. Yeah, that's what that's what the Pizza Hut buffet, because it's gone in your memory, you're kind of like that was pretty great. Remember CC's pizza, garbage while you were there when you were old, when you were a kid, garbage, you think that because it's still accessible. Like you could actually go
Starting point is 00:02:57 revisit it. I guess you could order a Pizza Hut pizza and probably I remember that being kind of gross. Oh, that's so gross. Anyway, Papa John's terrible. My bright spot is kind of reaffirming that, I guess. Yeah. Anyway, what about you? What's up? My bright spot, Dan, is I don't know if you've heard me talk about this before, but there was a live action cowboy bebop. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it came out and I've watched all of it. It is a bright spot because John Cho as Spike is incredible. Everything else is kind of so so like Yoko Kano up to another level. I like that John Cho quite a bit. Oh, he's great. Yeah. But to think he started as one of the most yeah. Yeah. No, I know American pie. Oh, really? That's right. Holy shit. I think he started there
Starting point is 00:03:51 and then you went to Harald and Kumar and then he's a really good actor. He's great. Yeah. He's even good in that flash forward show. That was a disaster. But but the problem with it and the reason that the whole show is garbage is because they did my man vicious and Julia dirty. Oh, no. They suck in this show. Those are characters. Yeah. Yeah. In the original show, you meet Julia only at the very end and she's awesome in the first time you meet her because she's the like long lost love interest, the one that got away in a horrible death incident kind of situation. And then she shows up riding a car, getting chased by bad guys and then fire him back and then Faye jumps in and they're a bad ass Thelma and Louise instantly. You love Julia great in this
Starting point is 00:04:39 show. She's like I'll save me all this and then vicious vicious is the shark from Jaws. You only see him when someone's about to get their head cut off. His name is vicious. His name is vicious. Right in this show. He's like I'm gonna help you Julia. It's awful. It's awful. They ruined it. I'm sorry. They ruined it. But otherwise the show is great. Okay. I feel like I'm not gonna watch it based on. Don't watch it. Okay. Garbage. All right. So Jordan, today we have an episode from the past to discuss. This is an episode of June 30th, and July 1st, 2003. All right. This is a monumental episode. I must say because a wrench gets thrown into the gears as it were of some things that we've been tracking in the past. We may have been
Starting point is 00:05:28 a little wrong about some things. And we will find out about that here today. But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. So first, Jenny Bento, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Jenny. Thank you. Next, Nessie, the disciple of Lady Selene. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Nessie. Thank you. Next, congratulations, Alex and Trevor on your engagement. I love you. This is Jess exclamation point. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Jess. Thank you. Next, Mr. Toad loves double layered carrot cake. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Mr. Toad. I'm really worried that sometimes
Starting point is 00:06:06 like names like that that I've like, right, I've triggered an assassin or something like that's a code word. There's a sleeper agent somewhere. Right. You have to read the first letter of each of the names in order to get the actual message. I'm very worried sometimes when people send me very cryptic names. We got a technocrat to say hello to so sludge factory. Hello and thank you. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. So we jump in here. End of the month,
Starting point is 00:06:50 June the 30th. Yes, the day is the 30th. That's six dash 30. Oh, three. Oh, three. Gotcha. Three years after Y2K. We start at the beginning of the episode here and Alex announces a guest that he's going to have, which is really bizarre. Yeah, coming up in about 30 minutes, Mike Hansen, who's done camera work for me and worked on my TV show here in Austin, is going to be joining me. He runs a fireworks stand trying to raise money for his run for political office here in Austin. This time is a county constable. He's running for constable. Constable. Is that a thing you can be still? It is. Yeah. You deliver summons and stuff like that. I think you can do traffic stops. If you're a constable. I think so. Yeah, I think you can give people tickets in Texas at least.
Starting point is 00:07:42 All right. I mean, can you also work for Scotland Yard? Yes. Okay, good. So Alex's cameraman, Mike Hansen. He's the guy who went along with Alex and John Ronson to Bohemian Grove. Alex is a longtime buddy and noted weirdo. Apparently he is running a giant fireworks stand in order to fund his run for constable. Right. And apparently he also has a little bit of a history of failing to run for offices in the past. He seems to fancy himself a bit of a political also ran. Well, I think what's strange about that is that despite constable being a thoroughly British word, I don't think there's a more American thing you can do than run a fireworks stand running to become a constable. Yeah. That's the most American. That's the Declaration of Independence.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It's not their fireworks stand. It's someone else's. Okay. I think quite honestly, he might just have a job at this fireworks stand. I don't know. So the story that Mike is going to come on and tell is that he heard some noises in the night because he also apparently sleeps at the fireworks stand. Not sure. Okay. All right. He heard some noises in the night and he thought it was like an animal or something. Sure. So he grabbed his gun and ran out in his underwear and found people robbing the place. Okay. And so he held two of the three of them at gunpoint. Okay. And then got the police to come and they arrested him. Wow. And so they're thrilled because this is a good guy with a gun. Oh, totally. Absolutely. This is a man who deserves to be constable. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:21 So they they it might be spawn con for his run for constable. Yeah. It's a boring interview. Mike just tells the story and guess what? He comes back like two days later and tells the same story. It's ridiculous. It's a good story. It is. It's a good story. So we got some news out of the UK here from an article in an outlet called the Scotsman. They've appointed Hanson as constable. I wish. Interesting Scotsman story about paganism exploding in the United Kingdom and there's a photograph we've we've had to blur but you can link through to the original Scotsman article with a giant satanic orgy going on basically. They're all dancing around naked and it's becoming the fashionable thing and the young people are all getting involved and
Starting point is 00:10:18 they burn effigies of and carry out these druid rituals. Sure. And they claim it's all fun and it's no big deal. And they admit Harry Potter has helped promote this and now it's the fastest growing religion in the United Kingdom. But they're also having a problem with people's dogs cats and horses being stolen and being found with their hearts out. Wait. Test is cut out and satanic rituals. But the way can say that's not us. Sure. I failed to find any examples. Also I think the fastest growing religion at this point is definitely Islam. Yeah. Either that or well in the UK. Yes. In the in the UK it's probably Harry Potterism. I just want to say and I want to get this out there. OK. Dancing around naked is a long way from an orgy. True. OK. Now it's not
Starting point is 00:11:06 as far away from an orgy as dancing around with your clothes on. Sure. But it is still farther away than an orgy. You know. Yeah. A couple steps that are still required. Yeah. At this point. I agree. I agree. Alex doesn't deal with that and whatever. So apparently there's a lot of animals that are going missing. I don't have a citation on any of this. I think it's just sort of satanic panic adjacent nonsense sounds like it. So Alex has a commercial that he plays on this show that I found a little out of place. I'll see if you can tell why. I'm Patrick T. Parker for Barclay Financial. Right now we're recommending the purchase of Euro currency call options. The budget and trade deficits are going through the roof. The dollar is dropping worldwide. Could the Euro be
Starting point is 00:11:50 poised to move higher. We think so. For a free special market report on the Euro currency call Barclay Financial right now. Call 800 348 4100. That's 800 348 4100. What. What. Invest in the Euro says the most nationalist man has ever been. Invest in the Euro guy who thinks the EU is evil. Yeah. And also that's not like a call option means you think it's going to go. You know that you could be shorting it. Right. That would be ideologically consistent. You'd be like the anti Soros shorting the globalists. That's not what they're recommending though. They're saying the Euro is poised to rise. Yeah. I thought that was very very strange. Yeah. I heard I heard that. And I'm like well you see have like herb companies that are trying to save the Christian
Starting point is 00:12:43 remnant in America. Sure. Sure. You have the weird thing or the weird box or whatever the fuck. It's a great box. The freak box. You got the. Now you're selling euros. What is going on. This is ridiculous. I can't imagine somebody hearing a commercial from a financial group about buying or selling stock and thinking well obviously they want me to make money. Yeah. I better call and get more info. Yeah. That's yeah. Of course. These people are really interested in strangers making money. They've got my best interests in mind. Yeah. Sure. So Alex gets this call from a guy. They're discussing. This is the context of the night before the caller and Alex I believe both of them had seen a documentary about like
Starting point is 00:13:31 Ancient Greece. Right. And so Sparta is on the mind. And this is where we jump in with this. On all of our military vehicles going back to Gulf War One and even prior we now have like a chevron and this is something I've noticed on the shields of all Greeks and in Greek that's the letter L. And I'm really concerned as to why we dropped the star. What the show didn't tell you was that it was a homosexual death code. I'm sorry. That that that held slaves. Now and they said this is the heart of Western civilization. This is what our marines are modeled after. Now the one good thing that the Spartans did say was that you know there wasn't a question of fighting and standing up for what they thought was right. She and I stated that.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Wow. That's what you're fighting the New World War. If you love your family there isn't even a question. Now that was the only good point of the film. But I thought it's really disturbing to see them really covering up what the Spartans really were cover up. They've been trying to cover up that homosexual death cult for years. Oh my God. So the caller is making an interesting association between the military and the Greek letter Lambda. But I think this caller is a little simplistic about just like it's from the shield or whatever. If you look into it you'll find a bunch of fraternities and sororities that are military in nature that use the letter Lambda in their name and even when it's not the first letter like in the case of Kappa Lambda Chai
Starting point is 00:14:59 they still refer to themselves as Lambda men. The first women's military sorority is Lambda Beta Alpha and they even have a side organization for family members in ROTC cadets called the Orchids of Lambda. The letter Lambda has been adopted by militaries throughout Western history largely because it was the symbol that was on the shield of the Spartans, not of all the Greeks. Right. The other city states had different letters or different symbols and the Spartans had this because it was in honor of their capital city, Lacedamian. Due to the story of the Battle of Thermopylae and the 300 Spartans who held back the Persian army and Xerxes they become the the image of efficient and successful military forces. There's a lot of aspects to this story where the details are a
Starting point is 00:15:45 bit fudged but I'm not here to take away any of the achievements of Leonidas like let him have it. Either way the letter Lambda is adding. Yeah, you don't want to get sued. Right. His state is very powerful. Yeah. That's what the L is for on the shield. The letter Lambda has had a particular significance ever since like throughout Western history and our military uses the letter to signify which company vehicles belong to depending on the direction that the L or the Lambda is facing. That's fun. Yeah. I think Alex might have a slightly elementary understanding of Spartan culture but if his problems with them are that they were a homosexual death cult who had slaves he probably wouldn't like Athens or any Greek city state much more. Yeah, there was all there.
Starting point is 00:16:28 The great hero Achilles only agrees to re-enter the Trojan War after Hector kills his lover Petrocalus and they were Mermidians. In the Theban army there were 150 gay male couples who formed the sacred band of Thebes and the Theban army actually defeated Spartan Sparta in the battles of Tigera and Lucchettra and in the process they actually unceded Sparta as the dominant force in Greece. There were many aspects of homosexual relationships in ancient Greece and the fact that Spartans engaged in some homosexuality isn't unique to them at all. As for them being a death cult I'm not sure what Alex means by that so I don't know how to respond. They were a culture that prioritized military strength but I don't know if that makes them a death cult. And as for
Starting point is 00:17:13 the slavery thing Sparta definitely wasn't the only city state doing that shit. They pretty much all did including Athens. I think that Alex's view of history in this case in particular is just shaped by pop culture things he's seen like movies or TV shows because what he's saying is just dumb. Yeah. It does not track. It even makes very less sense considering you know like those Greek city states they weren't like Greece. They didn't get along very well. Yeah there was there was a there's periods of tension. Anyway Alex moves on from waxing philosophical about Greek history and look right now in 2021 we know what's going on forced vaccines. Oh sure. Everyone's getting forced to have vaccines. Yeah the Greeks knew it was going to happen too. Here's 2003.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Bush is creating a new six billion dollar fund for forced inoculation for dozens of vaccines. Okay. So we're just doing this over and over and over again. It's always the same. Wow. 20 years 20 years. This is your life for Alex would be just the same two people being like this is the same clip in 2003 that you've gotten 2005. Oh look at you being scared of the same thing in completely different contexts. It never really actually comes to pass. His life flashes before his life his eyes before he dies and it's just the same clip. No it's just a boy yelling wolf. That's it. It's just it's metaphorically that. Yep. So Alex gets another call. He takes a good bit of calls on this show which is fun except for the actual callers because
Starting point is 00:18:53 they suck particularly this guy who's a bit homophobic. Go ahead Andrew you're on the air. Alex how are you doing? Fantastic. I just want to tell you what's going on up here. I'm in Cincinnati Ohio and every day in the newspaper we got this rag newspaper called the Cincinnati Enquirer. They should just change it to the Daily Hell on Earth report. It's every day Supreme Court upholds gay sex. Hacks is raising. You turn in the back pages. It has a story about a couple homosexuals in San Francisco raising two little boys and talking about how many homosexual couples are raising raising children now. By the way kids taken from other families. CPS grabs them for this industry. That's admitted fact. Yeah exactly. I knew that right away when I saw your article
Starting point is 00:19:33 those are children they took from good from good solid families and gave to these homosexuals. Holy shit. So yeah I think I've made note in a previous episode that like for a long time Alex has had this bizarre theory about there being an industry run by the homosexuals to take straight people's children by way of CPS. Right. Which is gross and you see it's it's a it's a consistent long standing thing of his. This caller is angry. Yeah. I mean the craziest part of that is you know you remember 2003 and that kind of homophobia was commonplace you know and it wasn't even just tacitly permitted you know Obama famously is like I'm evolving on gay marriage you know like that kind of thing. It was so much different just 18 years ago. It's true. It's true. I think
Starting point is 00:20:24 yeah I think that there's a difference between. Well yes. Some latent homophobia or even active. Right. That maybe people didn't examine well and political driven homophobia and I think that I think that you see a good deal of the latter. Yeah. Here on Alex's show. So this caller sucks and Alex gets another caller which is this is this is real interesting. There's another movie that came out in 2003. So many movies. Oh yeah. And this one is is troubling. Oh boy. Yeah I said Jeff and Colorado and I said no we're going to Bob in New York. Okay. Okay. A couple things. Just a preview for a movie coming out called The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It's like some big budget Sean Connery thing coming up. Yeah. It's a comic book. Well what's
Starting point is 00:21:16 amazing about it is they finally ran the long enough clip where you got introduced to who these League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are. And they're devil worshipers. Wait what what just happened. You know the invisible man went insane. That was one of them. Captain Nemo he was insane. Dr. Jekyll you know it's like what these are new superheroes that are going to save the world. Yeah the bad guys they're shifting a paradigm now with the bad guys are the good guys. What. Just now. Wait. You pointed out that it was a comic book man. Yeah. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic book began its run in 1999. And the problem with the interpretation that's being given is that the characters in the movie aren't all villains. For one the character played by
Starting point is 00:22:05 Sean Connery Alan Quartermaine is not a villain in the novels that he's featured in unless you look back through a very sort of evolved prism of colonialist. Sure. Yeah. I mean in a certain sense any privateer is a bad guy. That might not have been the intention of his character. Right. He's more of just like an outsider type like a big game hunter and adventurer. Many people have actually noted that he's one of the foundational influences on the character of Indiana Jones who's definitely not meant to be a villain although does some sketchy shit. Sure. Captain Nemo also isn't a villain unless you think that people of non-European heritage are automatically evil. Emma Peel was a member of the Avengers who were crime fighters. That was kind of her deal.
Starting point is 00:22:43 The Invisible Man wasn't a great dude and Mr. Hyde certainly got up to no good. But the idea that these were literate like all villains is nonsense. They were just literary figures from a period of time. They were all extraordinary. Right. And they banded together to fight bad guys. Yeah. It was kind of their it's kind of their whole thing. The movie itself is a bit of a sloppy recreation with the inclusion of Tom Sawyer as a Secret Service agent. Dorian Gray is brought in as a villain. Yeah. But the real grand villain is Moriarty who is the arch nemesis of Sherlock Holmes. Right. The bad guy is the big bad guy for Sherlock Holmes. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't a movie about making the villains into heroes. It's just a really flawed interpretation of this trailer
Starting point is 00:23:22 that the caller saw. But man I'm so excited about Alex thinking their devil worshipers and that what I want to hear the review. Yeah. Yeah. I want to hear that review. That's so funny that he's the inspiration for Indiana Jones because you have that same thing now where like you you look back on it belongs in a museum and you're like yeah it belongs in a museum. And then as you evolve 20 years later you're like no nothing belongs in a museum. It should be repatriated. It should be everything in a museum was stolen. Sure. You know. Yeah. And another thing about that too is that you know Sean Connery plays Alan Quatermain who's an inspiration for Indiana Jones and he plays Indiana Jones's dad in the
Starting point is 00:24:04 is interesting. It's all coming together. That's why he turned down all those big roles in order to do the gentlemen. Yeah. Oh that guy. A lot of money left on the table. A lot of money. Yep. So Alex has another guest here and this was this was troubling to be certainly more troubling than Mike and his fireworks stand. I mean this is out of control. Let's let's let's go to our guest and we'll go to more news and your calls. His name is a Sturt Gerstacker. He's an engineer. Lives in Austin. He has a son named Alex and his wife said you need to move back with me to Ohio. According to him I heard him on local radio Thursday or else and then suddenly well he'll tell you the story and then it gets even worse to his neighbors that wouldn't bear
Starting point is 00:24:51 false witness against him in jail or or in court and so the CPS came after them. The mother got so freaked out his next-door neighbor she had a stroke and can't walk. CPS forced drug testing of them. No drugs were found. They're still attacking them savagely. It's just it's it's it's horrible. I'm not going to cover this too much because this is actually the story of a really nasty divorce. From the information I can gather it's a situation where there was this divorce going on and as a part of that there was a pretty messy custody dispute. I don't want to you know try and delve into this partially because you know in cases of domestic issues like this it's really difficult to get a full sense of exactly what's going on from the outside. That
Starting point is 00:25:36 having been said I can find no evidence of his neighbors getting into trouble for or having their children taken away because they wouldn't snitch on him. I did find some interesting stuff and trying to learn more about this case though. The first thing that I found was that Stewart had a blog up trying to get his child back titled thekidnappedson.blogspot.com. I don't know what was up on that site because the earliest snapshot in the way back machine is from when he had already changed the title of the blog to help me reconcile. There's only one post on there from April 20th 2015 that starts quote I apologize for my previous posts on this blog which I hereby retract in total. I was wrong to try to force the issue. I should have made it my goal from the beginning to reconcile
Starting point is 00:26:18 this matter privately. I would guess that reconciling the matter privately wouldn't involve going on Alex's show to push a grand conspiracy about your divorce that Alex can use to fuel his own conspiracy theories about how the child protective service is trying to steal people's children to give them to homosexual couples. On a mostly unrelated note I was able to find a transcript of a public hearing being held by the Travis County Commissioners Court in July 2007. The main piece of business was about an easement on a lot near Westlake Highlands. After that there was an opportunity for open questions and in came Stewart Gerstacker. Suffice it to say he came in hot quote I come in peace and humbly invoke the blessings of Almighty God. I've come to deliver a message of
Starting point is 00:27:13 peace and new hope. I forgive you I love you and I want you to be happy. You still have to repent your sins and make restitution from what you've stolen from me and others in the community and I'm going to continue to come down and exposing the truth. Your continued presence as an abomination against this land. We all know that Margaret Gomez stole her seat from Mike Hansen. I was there on election night when the computers were repeatedly crashed and programmed in new vote tallies. Huh sounds like 2020. That sounds familiar. What sad sorry people you are to allow these abuses to continue. So I guess at this point Mike Hansen had moved on from losing the election for Constable in 2003 to losing an election for the County Commissioners Board in 2007.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yes which is unsurprising and maybe progress. I do appreciate I come in peace being the opening line for a few sentences later to wind up with I think you're an abomination. That might be a little bit less peaceful. Stewart goes on to say quote your actions are an abomination in the eyes of God and man. You have become onerous to the people because of your continued abuses. I now declare a state of emergency caused by the breakdown of lawful power in Travis County. This emergency can only properly be rectified by the people of Texas acting independently in our sovereign capacity. So Stewart declared a state of emergency in Travis County back in 2007 and I'm surprised that didn't make the news. Did he ever like undeclared. Did he ever take the
Starting point is 00:28:36 state of emergency. I think it's still active. Yeah right. Yeah but look I mean Stewart isn't kind of guy who comes in with problems without solutions. Oh God quote to correct this intolerable situation. I'm taking this opportunity to announce the new independent state gathering. Exactly one year from today on the eve of July 4th 2008 we the people are going to peacefully surround the Texas Capitol building and our Travis County Courthouse complex and we're going to camp out and have a huge party. There will be large it will be large and it'll be nothing like you've ever seen and it will not end until all of you have gone away. Then we the people will constitute a new republic. Together we the people will peacefully shake off these tyrants and give the
Starting point is 00:29:18 world an independent state that will not ever be forgotten. It's so awesome too because in the transcript you see the board commissioner board response. Yeah and it was like are we invited to this party. That's nice. That is a good response. So anyway this guy is a bit unwell and I'm not going to take seriously anything he has to say in this interview with Alex and I think it's best we just move along with him and not. No that's a that's a lot of hurt. That's a lot of hurt man that I yeah. Yeah I think I think you can look at that county commissioner transcript and that can be response. You can get a good like sense of the picture. You can see this blog that he had where he was trying to say that his wife kidnapped his son and then
Starting point is 00:30:01 post begging for reconciliation and apologizing. Yeah. It's not worth it. They don't want to do it. Yeah. So we'll move on. Okay. To Alex taking more calls and we actually get an update from a caller who called in a couple episodes back. Oh that's nice. Grant go ahead you're on the air sir. Yeah good afternoon. The last time I called you guys I told you that they confiscated my tiger cub. Fiberian tiger and the next time in quarter after that the suddenly the doors were locked. They were locking the doors. So I think this thing is going to catch up with them pretty quick here. And all the court dates or the decisions that judges are making are on or before a full moon or a new moon. And so they're doing witchcraft definitely.
Starting point is 00:30:55 The first people that did threaten me were from Hollywood. Okay now I'm really confused sir. Yeah it's a little confusing. This is the guy who had his tigers taken away. They are doing witchcraft. Yeah because of the moon. Obviously. Obviously. Yeah. If it's happening on a full moon or a new moon. Right. And I mean like you would look at this and Alex would probably want to be like all right look I don't know what you're thinking here that the new moon means that they're doing witchcraft. Right. But he yells about how the release of Harry Potter on the solstice means something. Yeah. So he can't he has no leg to stand on here. This is a step too far. The new moon. It's not mentioned once in Harry Potter. I anyway this guy witchcraft
Starting point is 00:31:38 is being involved. Sure. Taking away his tigers. I don't think that a judge also needs witchcraft when he can just sign an order. True. Yeah. I think it's really great though being able to go back and listen to these episodes and see stories developing with callers. Yeah that is a specific callers call in and give updates. Yeah we don't get the serialized callers anymore in the in the modern day. Carlos is due to calls in all the time. But it's not really there's no story to it. He's just mad about various geopolitical things. This is much more fun. Yeah. Tiger Codes witchcraft. This is a little bit like where are they now every every few weeks. Yeah. So the the witchcraft I think maybe gets Alex into the sort of mood where he wants to talk about devil
Starting point is 00:32:21 stuff. And this is I don't know what he's talking about here. I've probably seen all of the conservative 100 reports. It's over 100 in the last two months. We've posted hundreds on info wars dot com on prison planet dot com of them digging up dead bodies of children and women in Portugal digging up dead bodies of women and children in France in Burgundy and in other areas and to lose big enough bodies in England finding dead kids in England in another area. I mean just every European country they find the dead kids and they've had their hearts cut out. They find the skeletons of these women by the hundreds. And in France this all started unraveling two years ago. It was reported in the BBC London
Starting point is 00:33:17 Guardian La Figaro French news. A woman escaped to where it weighed like 85 pounds out of a castle and she ran the police station. They wouldn't help her started pursuing her. She got the state police. They came in found some dead women found another woman that weighed even less than her in a cage. They said satanic rituals were done on us. They've now busted the mayors and police chiefs and judges and now it's gone all the way up to the conservatives running France. What now the French Secret Service has gotten involved and they're shutting down the stories. Witnesses are dying. I mean you talk about a real bloody soap opera. I read this stuff every week and this isn't rumors folks. They're finding the dead bodies. I guess they covered up the story really well.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I feel like I feel like there's no way I would not have known about the great swath of women without hearts being dug up across Europe. And it all going back to the conservative leadership of France. Everybody. Everybody getting taken down. Constables left and right. It seems I feel like if this were something that was a big deal or happened there would be some memory of it. First of all memory. Yeah. I couldn't find any like reports. No heartless dead bodies. I didn't know. Emaciated people showing up saying they were in a castle with demons. Nothing. No. No. I don't know. I don't know if anybody has a lead on this. I'd be willing to explore it but I couldn't find anything. Sometimes you really do think maybe this is just a
Starting point is 00:34:59 recurring dream. Alex has you know and it has nothing to do with anything in real life. Would be too surprising. It could be a chain email or something like that. Chain email. Yeah. It's it does not have to be strictly connected to reality. No. No. No. So here's where I have to eat a little crow. OK. We've been speculating about Alex having a different back story about Satanism in 2003 than he does in the present. Sure. That might not be accurate. Whoa. My friends I grew up in Rockwell, Texas. Very wealthy suburb of Dallas. I was a poor boy. My dad was middle class and dozens of times. Every group of friends I tried to be involved with the jocks the rock and roll crowd the rich kids especially the rich kids tried to recruit me in to
Starting point is 00:35:58 Satanism and I've talked about this before. I mean I'd be at some girl's house. You know who wanted to date me. You know beautiful dark black hair and big old green eyes in some 15 million dollar house and they come right out and say we're Satanist. You want to join us and I'd say no thank you. And then when I'd say no thank you I have the police pull me over and tell me that if I didn't straighten up I'd be a dead man and my family had to move to Austin, Texas to get away from this type of stuff. So yeah the the idea that people tried to recruit him into Satanism when he was younger it's just a story that he tells less frequently in the past but it's still part of his his uh his story and that's interesting
Starting point is 00:36:46 to me. That's very interesting but also there's fundamental differences between this and the way he tells it. True true um but who among us has a personal story that they've told for 20 years that has not seen some changes to it. I think one as important as constant recruitment to the devil. That's a good point. That one would stick in your memory. Now the way I see it one of the fundamental differences that exists in this telling and in the future tellings is that here it could just be a bunch of weirdos who are into Satanism. Metal was big at this point when Alex was in high school you could see people who are into totally you know darkness and yeah wearing antlers. Anybody with a his poster on their wall
Starting point is 00:37:30 I bet he was like they're a Satanist. You could see that yeah in the present the way he tells this story the devil is actually telling these people to get him. That is because he's psychic and he's going to be important to God's missions. They are directed by the devil. Yeah so there's a little bit of functional difference uh in terms of what the story means. Right right right. Also I think that this is different in as much as there were multiple different groups trying to recruit him into Satanism which is strange. That is weird that the entire how is it that the entire high school is apparently super into Satanism. Right. Together. Uh-huh. But they've still got jock clicks in Satanism. I feel like that's although you know. The jock Satanists bully the
Starting point is 00:38:13 nurse. I mean yeah that seems unfair. I don't think you should do that. I mean it. Do you understand the conception that he's painting to is that like all these groups of people within the high school are Satanists. Right. Now you'd have to assume that they didn't all just one day decide at school we're going to become Satanists. You assume their parents probably have something to do with that. I mean there would have to be. So Alex is tried like he meets this girl who wants to date him. He's over at her house. Sure. The expensive house. The dad is like hey we should get into Satanism. Hey you want to get some Satanism. Yeah. You want to get a little Satanism. Now Alex says no thank you which is fun. That he's polite. He's polite. He believes in
Starting point is 00:38:51 the Lord our Jesus Christ. Thank you sir but I will not. Yeah. Then the police start harassing him because he rejected this call to Satanism. So you have to assume the police department is involved in the Satanism. This whole town is Satan driven. I could I could I could see him saying that it was just the rich people. Nope. This is the police are involved in Satanism but that's part of his backstory too is revealing the police were all corrupt. Right. Yeah. But the well it's fake backstory. The more sort of grounded version of it is that he discovered that police were dealing drugs. Right. And so that he blew the whistle on that and the police chief ran him out of town. Yeah. He does describe his childhood a lot like the movie Warriors. You know
Starting point is 00:39:36 like there's just different roving gangs all around and he's just trying to navigate where he's trying to get to. Yeah. Yeah. And it's highly problematic. That's a good way. Yeah. Yep. That movie highly problematic. Highly problematic. Watching with modern eyes. Don't go back. Don't go back. You can never go home again. No. Just enjoy the costumes. That gang looks like baseball players. Yeah. So we're done with the 30th here and we jump to July 1st. OK. And Alex has some concerns about COG and the line of succession of the government. I see. And they've got a new bill where rage moves in to the ascension past others in the cabinet in a continuity of government system. They are setting up a dictatorship. My friends and they want a constitutional convention
Starting point is 00:40:31 and in that con con now being promoted by the neocontrogen horse forces. Neoconcon. They can rewrite all the bills and legislation. They can change the bowl of rights and constitution. Sure. Senate bill. Here's a new bill. It's not a con con. It's another bill. Senate bill will alter the line of presidential succession. Fox News Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge could move up to 8th in the line of presidential succession. Ooh. Pronging 10 other cabinet members. So for those who don't know Tom Ridge was the secretary of Homeland Security beginning in 2003. The issue that Alex is playing fast and loose with here is that that position didn't exist prior to Tom Ridge since he was the first head of the Department of Homeland Security,
Starting point is 00:41:17 which had just been created. He was a cabinet member and most of the cabinet exists in the line of succession. So it was felt that this position needed to be inserted into the order. Senate bill 148 passed on June 27th, 2003, making the position 8th in line just after the Attorney General. But that's not all there is to the story. It had a counterpart in the house, HR 2319. That was introduced and it died in committee. In 2006, the U.S. Code was amended to include the Secretary of Homeland Security in the line of succession in 18th position, or to put another way, the last person on the list. Wized up. Yeah. It's an interesting situation here because in a very technical sense, Alex is covering this news story like he's got some facts
Starting point is 00:42:02 right. There is a real bill and it would have made Tom Ridge 8th in line for the presidency. True. It makes some sense to assume that since it passed the Senate, it might get passed in the house too. Discussing that as a possibility is prudent, but I can still think if you listen to the way Alex is talking about this, he's hamming it up a little bit. Yeah. They're putting in a dictatorship. Yeah. I'm going to go with, I don't know if anyone cares who's 8th to 18th in line. It seems like except for the the lone survivor or the designated survivor show. Yeah. I think I think that if we get to the 8th on the list, we have big problems. Oh yeah. If we get to 8th on the list, there's no country left. We're already fucked. I don't know if we could handle that many people at the top of
Starting point is 00:42:51 the executive branch. Ladies and gentlemen, the president, the vice president, the speaker of the house, the pro-temporary president of the Senate, the, what's the next one? Secretary of State. Secretary of State 5. I don't remember. Yeah. If all of those people are dead, let's just go home. Yeah. Unless all of them are getting surgery at the same time. Maybe we could do it temporarily. Yeah. Have the 8th in line be president. That would be a big get for Kamala Harris. The odds of that are slim. And yeah, I think we have bigger issues once you're into, like, secretary of agriculture has become a president. That one's no good. We're fucked. That one's no good. Yeah. Because what happened to cause that is going to be a huge issue. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So Alex gets a call. He takes a lot of calls. It's kind of nice, this little stretch. And this caller has a question about a clip that is in Alex's commercial for his documentary. Okay. Hall in Florida. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Do you have the whole recording for the John Ashcroft speech about your illusory rights, your liberties? Yes. Is that a long speech? Yeah, it's about an hour long. Really? Do you concentrate on that? Just that? He said that there is no rights being taken. Patriot Act one doesn't affect citizens. Charges of spreading the Constitution and kangaroo courts are lies. If you say this, you're aiding terrorists and you will lose your liberty.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So he says we're not taking your liberty, but if you say we are, we'll take yours. And then he comes out and says, okay, it does affect citizens and there is Patriot Act two. I really don't want to be in the position of sounding like I'm defending John Ashcroft because, believe me, as a Missourian, I hate that dude. But at the same time, Alex is lying. And you can tell that he doesn't know where the clip that this guy's talking about really even comes from. He's just trying to spin a yarn on the fly. You can hear that in the way that he's pulling information out. At this time, Alex was selling a DVD and a clip of Ashcroft was featured in the commercial, which I will play here. We rep the semester Patriot Act legislation one and two
Starting point is 00:45:05 apart piece by piece and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty. You will lose your liberty. Homeland security, executive orders, forced vaccinations, the new prison economy, the total information society of Pan American Union, federal gun grabs, government run, white slavery rings and much, much more. If you want to understand what the new world order really is, then my new two and a half hour video, police state three is for you. I just kept the rest of it in to give you a little taste of how he was marketing his materials at the time. I do like a good white slavery because slavery is not that bad, but white slavery is worse. I think you get a sense there from the Ashcroft clip. It's just playing you will lose
Starting point is 00:45:45 your liberties. And that was for testimony Ashcroft gave on December 6th, 2001 in front of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. It's a three and a half hour video on C-SPAN, but Ashcroft's opening statement really only goes about 20 minutes. The full sentence that clip comes from is this, quote, since 1983, the United States government has defined terrorists as those who perpetuate premeditated politically motivated violence against noncombatant targets. My message to America this morning, then is this, if you fit this definition of a terrorist, fear the United States for you will lose your liberty. The editing that Alex uses is very strategic. And even though the Patriot Act sucks and I hate it and I hate Ashcroft, Alex has no idea what he's talking about
Starting point is 00:46:27 and he's just making stuff up. Also, there is no Patriot Act too, but there is a Sister Act too. Ah, so we know that Alex loves fake Thomas Jefferson quotes. Loves him. Loves him. Now, what do you think he thinks about possibly true Thomas Payne quotes? Oh, I think he, well, Thomas Payne, I'm going to go with saying he loves him. Yep. Thomas Payne, one of our founding fathers, said arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well as property. Hearted mischief would ensue where the law abiding deprive the use of them. Again, now you know why we have FEMA on tape for group of police and they do it all over the country saying quote, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington are terrorists. All Christians are
Starting point is 00:47:25 terrorists. So the quote that Alex is using there is slightly abridged. Here's the full version, quote, the supposed quietude of a good man allures the Ruffian. Well, on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well as property. You can see that Alex's version is conveniently missing the words like laws for some reason. Yeah. Also, this quote is in support of people having guns for sure. But the context of this is entirely missing. This is from a 1775 essay published in the Pennsylvania magazine entitled Thoughts on Defensive War. It's essentially war propaganda for the fight against the British trying to persuade religious folks in the colonies that it was right and just for them to arm themselves
Starting point is 00:48:08 to fight a defensive war and that their religious liberty was on the line if they didn't. Another important point to bring up is that scholars are not in agreement that this was actually Thomas Payne who wrote this article. He was the editor of the magazine at the time and the essay was attributed only to quote, a lover of peace. So many have assumed that he wrote it himself. However, in a 2016 book titled New Directions in Thomas Payne Studies, the authors point out that there are many inconsistent things in this essay that point to it not being written by Payne. The most compelling points are that the essay includes the line quote, the reign of Satan is not ended and it treats miracles in the Bible as having literally happened, which are counter to the
Starting point is 00:48:48 well-established deism which Payne expressed in his other writings like Age of Reason. Yeah, it would be very weird for Payne to be like, and Satan's coming after me, the literal Christian devil. It's very inconsistent with the way he writes in other contexts. So anyway, there's pretty compelling reason to think that this wasn't an actual quote from Thomas Payne. But even if it were, it's just a person trying to convince religious people to fight a defensive war against the British. Right. I don't know. He's trying to overcome that whole nasty thou shalt not kill part of war, you know? Gotta get over that. That's defensive. Yeah. See? So I think that this is a mishandling of this quote at very least. And hey, guess what? It gets worse. Another
Starting point is 00:49:32 way worse handling of a quote. Let's hear it. And then I've got another quote here that I wanted to read. And I've got this from the UN website. Food is power. We use it to change behavior. Some may call that bribery. We do not apologize. Catherine Bernini, UN World Food Program Executive Director, 1997. Food is power. We use it to change behavior. Some may call that bribery. We do not apologize. Yeah, we know what you do to our food, the fluoride, the aspartame, the poisons. So in trying to trace this quote down, I ran into the expected problem that almost every website that used it was a very bizarre GeoCities ass website full of insane conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And the quote is given with no citation or information when this head of the UN Food Program said this or where. Finally, I found a blog that claimed that Catherine Bertini, the former executive director of the UN World Food Program, had said this at the UN's Fourth Conference, sorry, Fourth World Conference on Women in September 1995, which was held in Beijing. This is already contradictory to Alex's citation that this quote was from 1997. Something smells fishy. The Fourth World Conference on Women did in fact take place in Beijing in 1995. And you can find a painfully detailed collection of information about the conference on the UN's website, including but not limited to the text of remarks made by representatives
Starting point is 00:51:08 from over 100 countries, the text of comments made by representatives of NGOs, as well as a ton of transcripts of statements made by UN representatives. There's also a bunch of pictures and a video that no longer loads. That should be their slogan. We're the UN painfully documented. I was able to find the transcript of the speech that Catherine Bertini that quote comes from. And I want to explain a few things about the conference before we get to the actual words that she said. The conference was meant to attempt to find solutions to the problem of severe gender inequality across the world. And one of the elements of that problem that was discussed was the greater food insecurity experienced by women in the developing world,
Starting point is 00:51:46 either due to systemic issues or even just cultural preferences for sons that lead them to getting greater access to food education and other necessities at the expense of daughters. Right. Now that being said, here is the full passage that this quote was taken from quote. Let's have no illusions. We can't easily change the underlying beliefs and prejudices that do so much damage to women worldwide. We cannot quickly change attitudes, but we can change behavior. At the World Food Program, we have recognized what a valuable tool food aid can be in changing behavior. In so many poorer countries, food is money. Food is power. In some of our most successful food aid projects, we literally pay families who do not believe in educating their daughters to send
Starting point is 00:52:27 those girls to school. A little free cooking oil can go a long way. We trade a five liter can of oil for 30 days of school attendance by a young girl. Yes, it's bribery. We don't apologize for that. We're changing behavior. We're giving hope and opportunity to young girls. And that is all the counts. Every small change in behavior will one day pay off in a change of attitude. So I think it's pretty self-evident what's happened here. The conspiracy theorists who want to demonize the UN at every turn have taken Pertini's words and selectively edited them down in a way that was specifically designed to remove the context of what he's saying and make it seem as evil as possible. Right, right, right. This altered version of the quote is posted on conspiracy
Starting point is 00:53:07 websites and repeated by Alex with its origins obscured or no citation given. That's making it harder for viewers to track down the source and judge it for themselves. On the one hand, this is something that's designed to demonize the UN. But the original statement Pertini made was also, it was about empowering women around the world to have agency, which is threatening to people like Alex, who worked tirelessly in the service of a male dominated society. By lying about the context of this quote, you not only make the UN look evil, you also, you deprive Pertini of her point. And in doing so, you turn a sentiment of the UN doing whatever it can to help women into proof of some kind of international racketeering and poisoning program.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Right. And I don't think that element is an accident. I think that's, I don't know. It's hard to imagine it's fully intentional, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence. Well, I mean, because what she's saying is this, okay, when we give food out to the powers that be in whatever localized nation or tribe or wherever we are, guess what? It exacerbates the same inequalities that we've had from the beginning because men run those things. So we're skipping past it all. We're going to be doing the most practical thing we can do, which is straight up bartering for education. It's not bribery. It's trade. You know, I'm trading you. I'm trading you oil so that everyone's future is better.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Well, I think that Pertini even sidesteps that and just says like, let's call it bribery, because then you don't even have to have the argument because who gives a fuck? It's like, let's accept the label, but let's understand what it is we're doing. Right. And I just, I think that it's so wrong and so awful to see the quote portrayed the way Alex is portraying it and all these conspiracy theories. And then when you dig deeper and find the actual quote, see what it's actually about and what the conversation was, where this conference, what it was, what it was in service of, and you just see like, this is, this is horseshit. This is, this is, I don't know, it's, it's so dumb. That's such a great thing for her to have said though, just because it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:15 just fuck it. It's, we got to do something practical because I don't care if my morality, my personal morality says bribery is wrong. This has got to, we got to do something. This has got to change. Like it makes me feel like, Hey, fuck it. Let's just pool all money together and bribe Joe Manchin a little bit more than what everybody else is paying him. And let's just get this done. You know, like just fuck it. Fine. You're corrupt as shit. We'll just play that game then, you know? I mean, I think I would just drive up the bidding war and that no one would get anything. Right. Like if there, if there were like sort of market forces that were bribing people to not send daughters to school in the developing world, then you'd end up in a situation where this bribery
Starting point is 00:56:01 would only exacerbate the problem. But it's totally, it's just a, we don't care to educate our daughters perhaps or less of a priority. It's an incentive. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a little different, but I get what you're saying. It is different. Absolutely. Also, man. Talk about missed opportunities. The U S representatives that went to that 1995 conference, Hillary Clinton and Madeline Albright. Alex Goody yelled about them. Wow. That would have been more fun for you from the very beginning. It's always been there. It's always been there, man. There. So Alex, I think is going a little bit far afield on the Harry Potter conspiracies. Oh, you think? Yeah. And oh God, how far? I mean, I agree with you. I mean, in most part, but I just
Starting point is 00:56:45 don't see as like lately with like, I don't see what JK Rowling and the Harry Potter books. I mean, really? Have you ever been in a giant satanic meeting? I have been. Okay. I've been a stone's throw from world leaders worshipping Mollick. Now, what's happened in the culture is they took the occult, put it in red pajamas and with little black horns and said it's an Anton Leves deal. It's this kooky thing. Where does talk about it? The fastest growing religion according to the FBI, according to Scotland Yard is the satanic elite is Satanism. They're having major arrest of public figures engaged in satanic murder cults from Belgium to France to Portugal right now. Did you know that? And it's not like it's a rumor. They're digging the dead babies up, sir.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Do you know what the summer solstice is? Yeah. Well, that's when they released the Harry Potter book. They do it every year. The little kids dress up like witches and dance around the book teaches you how to get into the occult with magical thinking. It leads you into it. I mean, it's hidden in plain view, sir. So this caller is even like, Hey, man, I like you, but I don't know about this Harry Potter stuff. That's how far Alex is off. Also, he's wrong. They didn't get rid of the books don't get released every year on the solstice. That's just his perception of it because it's a fun story. It is fun. But I like this whenever a caller is somebody who is not like totally bought in.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah. Someone who's like, I'm inclined to believe some of the things you say. And I do believe that maybe the powerful don't have our interest in totally at the front of their their list. But man, Harry Potter. Are you fucking kidding me? It's just booked. Are you? Are you going to come at me and tell me that the movie witches starring? What's her? What's their faces or not witches? The three hocus pocus. Hocus pocus. Yeah. How are you that good? That's amazing. I have references. Yeah. Is that like, uh, is that like a teaching? Oh, well, fair. I mean, he's already complained about like Sabrina, the teenage witch. It's true. He really has gone after every everything innocuous. So Alex really wants a win from this caller. He wants to get him over onto his side. And I don't
Starting point is 00:59:16 think it's working. They admit they go to the Grove every year. They're members of Scullin' Bones. Okay. Well, then they are Satan. So I'm saying that J.K. Rowling is not part of the global elite nor is she a Satanist. I believe she's just writing children's books. Yeah. She writes these books about about learning the occult, doing the rituals, and then the, uh, an obscure, uh, scholastic, you know, educational, uh, publisher. It's picked up by the big boys and promoted wall to wall and public schools everywhere, uh, pay to have the kids get in buses and go see the movies. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's a gateway into the occult. Of course the Wiccans say it's all white magic and fun and they're loving and come on out to our orgies. It's a lot of fun,
Starting point is 01:00:02 young people. And then it leads them into the occult and black magic, sir. Okay. I grew up watching it in Dallas, Texas. It's real. Okay. It's real. This stuff is real. It's everywhere. It's all over the place. CBS symbol, Viacom symbol, uh, Time Warner symbol, uh, Fidelity financial symbol. All these things are, say, panic symbols. It's everywhere, sir. Oh, I, I mean, I, I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this issue. I don't, I don't think it's too far. The global elite and I guess you, you, I just said, I told you, sir, that her book is being promoted wall to wall. Okay. And that it, and that it is shifting the youth over. Did you know the fortune 500 are pushing the new age and meditation and all that?
Starting point is 01:00:54 That doesn't surprise me. Those people are always into that kind of, uh, new age, new age. Well, have you read the books? I've not read the books. I've seen the movies. I don't. Okay. Well, I've read, I've read two of them. And let me tell you, sir, and I have, I have official black magic books. Okay. I have read this stuff. I have studied it. I've been in some of the most extensive libraries on it. Tex Marge's library that fills two whole rooms, wall to wall books. And let me tell you, it is satanic bottom line, sir. So I like, I like the condescending way Alex keeps saying sir. Yeah. Uh, I like how Alex is just grasping its straws via calm symbol. It's all satanic. I mean, that's wild. And I like that this guy has a little
Starting point is 01:01:40 backbone. Like, I guess we've got to agree to disagree on this cause you're not going to change your mind. And I'm certainly not going to change my mind. I do think it's so funny to say, I guess we'll have to agree to like, that's the most infuriating thing you can say to Alex. Yeah. He can't. No, he cannot agree to disagree. No, you are wrong. Well, and you have to accept that he's right because his relationship with being right is so fragile. Yeah. Oh, it's 10 us at best. Yeah. The, the idea that anybody could talk to him and not agree with him, they either have to be like paid by the enemy. Yeah. The enemy themselves or it's just, it's, it's impossible because he has to believe that he has access to all of the most real truth or else all of this
Starting point is 01:02:27 is bullshit. Okay. Here's a larger thing. Here's the, in fact, maybe the largest thing. Okay. Magic is real in Alex's estimation. He has real black magic books. He does. Is it possible for Alex to perform black magic? And he simply chooses not to. I mean, it must be right at least in his mind. Right. Also, Tex Mars is not the best reference you want to have for his giant library that's probably full of neo-nazi books. Yeah, that one might be a little bit. That one, I wouldn't carry that one around with me. That's your first pull. I think we're in trouble. Look, I studied the occult with Tex Mars. Oh, no. Oh, no, buddy. I mean, I studied the occult with this guy. Now, I know his last name is going to put you off. It was Hitler, but he was super into it. Dave
Starting point is 01:03:16 Hitler. So this caller really knocks it out of the park. I just don't know really what to say. I mean, I guess, I don't know. I just lately, I've just been seeing like some things have just been, I think you've been going off on some tangents on the show. And at least yesterday at the caller with the home, I've heard a lot of homophobic undertones going through the show too. And it just kind of turns me off with the work that we're doing. I mean, I think it kind of. Mike, let me just tell you something. When the homosexuals stop working with CPS to take people's kids, I mean, where do you think they're getting all these kids for their, for their so-called families, but they stop aggressively promoting it in the schools
Starting point is 01:03:50 and start leaving our families alone. They'll get left alone. You don't, you don't know how aggressive a lot of the homosexuals are in their movements. Wow. Wow. Oh boy. So I think that caller is like, it's fantastic. Like that when I heard that, I was like, that's exactly what I thought that call was really homophobic. That was a really homophobic call. And hearing that being voiced on the show is really interesting because that's the kind of thing that you'd like to see what Alex's response is. And his response is apparently so-called families. Oh boy. Do you know how aggressive these, these homosexuals are? That's not good. No. They start leaving our families alone and will leave them alone. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Man, that's, it's, it's so weird.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It just doubles down. It's so weird to hear this type of shit and then see it so latent still in the present. It's still there. You know, he doesn't, he doesn't openly talk about it like, like that. He does a little bit. Exactly. Does a little. Like there is an, it's entirely possible to backslide shortly into a place where he can just go around saying, yeah, these so-called homosexual families. Like that's a very possible thing. I think, I think, you know, I think it's already still there. I think it is. Yeah. I mean, it could, yeah. Bullpoint. It sucks. Yeah. It sucks. Yeah. It should be way better than this. It exists in his insistence that the LGBTQ movement is trying to normalize pedophilia. Yeah. Yeah. It's all there. Yeah. It's, it's just sort of transitioned
Starting point is 01:05:23 the exact focus of it, but the same hatred and intolerance of people who are not straight white male Christians is, is just there. It's there. It's been there. Endemic forever. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that call was pretty, pretty good in terms of calls. And then Alex gets another call and Alex is just, he's pissed. He's done. I'm not going to put you on the spot here, but you tell us to support your sponsors. You got a sponsor supporting your show. I don't know how it got far. Clay financial, you know about them? No, I don't. Okay. You know what? Yeah. I mean, I think I've had enough of this right now. This show is about fighting the new world order. My broadcast is about covering the news. And I am not going to sit here on my show
Starting point is 01:06:14 and talk about it on sponsors. So this is the sponsor that also caught my attention that was the commercial selling euro. Wow. And so we got a caller who brings that up. Those were, those were on the ball callers back then. Yes. Wow. And I love Alex just be like, wow, bad over this. That's so funny. I'm about overhearing negative feedback that is well deserved. That sucks. That is so I much prefer it with people blindly accept whatever I say and tell me I'm a genius just because Barkley financial is by all accounts exactly the type of globalist organization that I am exactly fighting against doesn't mean I'm going to talk bad about them if they sponsor my show. Yeah. So they're, they're a financial outlet that is advocating buying
Starting point is 01:07:01 your euro. Yeah. And they paid for ad time and were accepted by Ted Anderson and Midas resources. Right. That's confusing. It doesn't seem ideologically consistent. No, no, no. So we come to the end of this because the rest of the show isn't really, it's more of his health. He's about done with this. He's literally done with this. He said it very clearly. Yeah. Oh, also Dan from Illinois called back in. Oh, did he? Yeah. So that was nice. You're a trader, Dan. There's nothing, there's nothing really that comes up, but I wanted to make note of it that my boy Dan from Illinois got to get it in there. Yeah. He's apparently a pretty consistent caller back in 2003. You guys should meet. Yeah. Never. Exactly. So yeah, I guess that brings us to the end of this. And I think
Starting point is 01:07:53 I would like to just acknowledge that I was a little hasty in my assumption that Alex didn't talk about how he was recruited into Satanism back in 2003 for fear of being seen as crazy. He did, but I think that there are salient differences between them that make the present day version far, far crazier than the past version. And he talks about it less, but still, hey, yeah, I mean, this, this is fairly tame. And you could even argue that it's just a poetic exaggeration to say that all the jocks and all the, all of them were Satanist taken on, like on its face, what he's saying, right? The implications of it are nuts. Exactly. They would involve an entire town dedicated to Satan, right? But which would be a great movie. I think it's
Starting point is 01:08:43 been made a couple of times made a few times. Yeah. But yeah, real deep, deep homophobic leanings throughout bananas. And I really thought that that UN food program quote was something that like that is such a good distillation of the way that information is weaponized by conspiracy theorists, people like Alex, they deprive a very reasonable and appropriate quote about one issue and to being about something entirely different and strip it of all the context that makes it, makes sense, it turns it evil. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's something that people should be very aware of. And when you have quotes and information that comes from these dubious sources, it's always, it's always important to figure out what is actually being said by the people,
Starting point is 01:09:37 as opposed to what's being claimed to have been said. Yeah. And yeah, that's the point. I'd like to drive home. Oh yeah. You know where I learned that from? Thomas Jefferson. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I interrupted you. I mean, ultimately it is, it is probably their most powerful tool, right? The ability to take something that someone is saying that you cannot not agree with, unless you're a monster, right? I think it's, I think it's a regular tactic. Yeah. But I think that their most important tool is all their money. Well, that's important. Yeah. Blind trust, a sense of complacency and people just believing these things that looking at them. I think that that's their most important tool. Yeah. But this strategy of, yeah, weaponizing
Starting point is 01:10:35 like sensible quotes into evil, into the evil. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a technique that's used a lot. Brutal. Yeah. So anyway, Jordan, we'll be back. Indeed we will. But until then, we have a website. We do. It's knowledgefight.com. We also are on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Darryl Rundis. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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