Knowledge Fight - #658: It's Pretty Easy Being Greene

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Marjorie Taylor Greene has been showing up more on Infowars lately. Content warning: this episode does cover a fair amount of transphobic territory Citations

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We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you, sir.

What's up? What's your bright spot? My bright spot today, Jordan, is I was going around on the Info Wars website. Maybe it was band.video. I believe it was theband.video. Okay. And periodically, you'll see some fun advertisements on there. And there's a new one, which will post a picture of this ad on our Twitter, but it's a picture

of Alex doing the Uncle Sam, kind of like pointing at the camera. It says, do you need tax relief? Get the number one tax planning and tax relief recommended by Alex Jones. I saw that and I was just like, this is so great. Half of his career has been talking about how the 16th Amendment, it doesn't exist. It wasn't ratified. I can't be happier with Info Wars branded compliance. I think that's what I'm really here about.

I wonder if this is like Erwin Schiff, if he's running this tax relief hotline. Oh, maybe it's Joe Bannister or Red Beckman from these other fucking old school weirdos. I mean, it's at the point now where it's like, have you had a personal injury? Info Wars says go to, you know, it's, it worth it. It's there. Yeah. Yeah. But, but that is actually like, I thought I would find that more acceptable because

they have it like Alex hasn't spent most of his career railing against like that is bad of personal injury suits or something like you shouldn't believe that anyone should pay taxes. Why are you having a tax settlement? It's very funny. This is nonsense. Oh God. Anyway, what's your bright spot?

My bright spot, Dan, is a baseball. It's going to happen. It's going to do it. Okay. They're going to, they're going to have the baseball. They're going to do it. No, they agreed. They agreed today to have the baseballs.

They're going to play a full 162 games. I didn't even know there was a problem with baseball. Yeah. It wasn't going to happen. Oh, it has not been happening for almost a hundred days. Isn't that the off season though? Yeah. But even during the off season, you still do stuff.

Oh, sure. You're like, uh, the, you throw the ball around the camps. Yeah. You do the whole thing. Yeah. None of it. Nobody got paid. Nothing is brutal.

Shit. I'm like, what if, and I'm going to throw this out there, we could negotiate with the union or what if we broke the union beneath our heels and smashed their teeth to grind up into powders so we can power our fucking penis pills? That seems like something they'd be more interested in. Yeah. They tried that. Yeah.

And they almost did it. So I hear, I hear a lot of talk about the Ricketts. Yeah. They can play in the mix. Oh man. I hate them so much. Were they, were they in play? Yes.

They were in play. Oh, bastards. Everybody say like, you know, it was great. The Ricketts. Nobody ever in the history of the world has been like, oh, thank God, the Ricketts are here ever, ever. They're evil. They're like evil.

Yeah. It's, it's like the reverse of that weather man. Tom, what's his name? Tom Scaling. Yeah. Never heard anybody say negative things about him. Yeah. Everybody says everything negative about the Ricketts.

The Ricketts aren't showing up in a Serengeti song positively. Yeah. That shit ain't happening. So yeah, if you're outside of Chicago, some of this might not make sense to you. Yeah, this might be difficult to, uh, if had to trouble, but that's great. Well, congratulations on getting your baseball. Yeah. I'm very happy.

So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be jumping around a little bit throughout time. And the reason that we're going to be doing that is because, um, this episode was authored by Kurt Vonnegut. Exactly. Yes. It's these spiritual sequels of momentum. Right.

We'll be doing this backwards. Info Wars House five. So there, there's, um, there's something that's been going on and that is that, uh, Marjorie Taylor Greene's been making more appearances on info wars. And I believe this to be, uh, a bit troubling, I mean, you know, where else would you find a shaking harpy? Uh, there's probably some other places, but of course, well, that's not so much a media outlet.

Now is it? Well, that's fair. Um, so yeah, we're going to be talking a little bit about that. But, uh, before we do, uh, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones. That's a great idea. So first Reese Roper's blue comb. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, sous chef for the demon feast and his screaming demon companion. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

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Next, the intro sounds way more badass if you speed it up. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Don't you fuck with DJ Danerke. I'm telling you, not smart, but also thank you very much. I hear from some people that they speed up and listen to the podcast and like, look, there's something about timing, you know, like it is, it is an element of something

and you really kind of comedians. Yes. It is kind of an important thing that we care about. There's a part of it that's almost unfathomable to me, the experience of listening to something at double speed. Yeah. I guess if you like doing that, do your thing. Good luck.

Next, number one, knowledge on bastards fan. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we have technocrat in the mix. So thank you so much to infoflaws.com.

You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just going to take a little break now. A little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over, but I'm the devil.

I got to be taken out of here. All this. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.

Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not. Oh, shit.

And this covers a stretch of time. He's bad throughout all of it. Yeah. All tomorrows are bad. So there's something happening around in forwards. Like I said, that's definitely a cause for concern and it needs to be noted to be fair. There's a lot. Sure.

Yeah. Well, yeah. But there's this trend that needs, we need to pay more attention to it. It's the relationship that's growing between Info Wars and Marjorie Taylor Green. They're becoming a bit more entrenched than you might have expected the case to be or could have predicted. Green appeared on Alex's February 2nd show and we discussed that appearance. But what we've not yet touched on is how it's been followed up by a ton of further

interaction. The whole Putin invading Ukraine thing definitely seemed like a more relevant topic to cover. But now that Alex has kind of settled into his very transparent status quo defending Putin while pretending he's just looking at all sides, we have an opportunity to go back and fill in some of the gaps from things that we missed along the way. On her initial appearance, Alex mentioned that he was excited to meet Marjorie in person. And as it turned out, he didn't have to wait all that long as she ended up making her first in studio appearance on February 20th, which is where we're going to begin our episode

today. Green doesn't show up until the second hour of this Sunday episode. If you take the time to listen to the beginning of it, you'll notice that Alex's top story is not one that looks great in hindsight. There are a lot of conflicting reports about what's happening in Eastern Europe, North Eastern Europe, and what's really about to unfold in Ukraine where there's been an eight-year proxy war between the globalists and the Russians. So this is the kind of brazen liar that Alex is.

He's specifically casting doubt on assessments that Russia was going to invade Ukraine on his February 20th show, mere days before the invasion actually happens. That on its own probably isn't that bad. I think a lot of people would have said similar things. The problem is that as soon as the invasion happened, just a few days after this, he decides to put together a compilation of dumb clips he's pretending proved that he predicted the invasion back in August 2021. This is central to one of Alex's deception games, and understanding clips like this is

key to getting what's going on. On February 20th, Alex was probably aware that he'd made a prediction that there would be war by February, or at least he's aware that he'd been yelling about war being imminent for a while, but he also knew that he'd been saying that it was going to be a war with China. So if there's news coming out about the possibility of Russia being involved in a war, that's not what Alex is looking for. It's not good for the brand.

No. Alex loves Putin and hates the United States government, so if an agency within the US government is saying that Putin is going to invade Ukraine, of course that's not true. When Alex's supposed prediction isn't even a factor, it doesn't come into his mind. But then, once the actual invasion happens, there's a change in the calculation. The prediction of war with China didn't materialize, but this invasion is close enough for him to use. So Alex pretends that this is what he was talking about the whole time.

We heard how in this compilation he used a clip from last November where he had to edit out the part where he said that he didn't think Russia was going to invade Ukraine, and here you see that same mentality still in place on February 20th. At the core of things, Alex is just a monster. He legitimately is willing to say whatever feels good to him in the moment, and he's more than willing to lie about the world and his past positions in terms of very serious topics, even including the invasion of a country, if there's a chance that doing so will increase his status and make him a few bucks because he sucks.

It is important to remember the noble truths. Life is suffering. That's a really important one. What people forgot, and what Gautama wasn't even really thinking about, which was his mistake, was that if life is suffering, you should therefore be able to make money off it because there's nothing you can do, baby. Come on. Smoke him as you got him.

Smoke him as you got him, baby. Gautama Buddha. Also, if there's one problem with Gautama's conception, it's the idea that when you die, you just play a harp. I was so mad whenever I read that. So like I mentioned, we're going to talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene's appearance here on the show, and I want to give a bit of a little bit of content warning that generally goes over, I would say, a lot of this episode.

It's going to pop in and out. It's not the sole topic that's going to be covered, but there's a great deal of transphobia that's going to be emanating from Alex and Marjorie Taylor Greene. And I hope that we can discuss this in the sensitivity that is appropriate, and if it's something that you find objectionable, you might want to tune in on Monday because there may be some stuff that's not so great. I've tried to not put anything in that's just gross for the sake of it being gross, but some things are unavoidable.

So Alex starts to introduce Marjorie, and he gives his normal spiel about how I don't care about celebrities. Hey, it doesn't even give a shit. Nah. Well, I can care less about Hollywood stars. I can care less about politicians. I can care less about anybody, about my family and other hard-charging patriots that love liberty.

But I get some butterflies and excited and was pacing up and down before she got here because I am extremely excited to have MTG Marjorie Taylor Greene from Georgia's 14th district with us right now because of all the great people, there's quite a few good people in Congress, quite a few bad ones. I got to say, she's probably my favorite. There's a few good ones up there, but I tell you, she is just the most genuine and she's the most popular of anybody that got elected in the last round, but the system's coming after her big time.

This is so funny. Like, Rand Paul is the son of anti-communist royalty and Alex's favorite politician of all time. Who would actually come on Alex's dumb show and second, someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene gives him a second of attention. It's all like, Rand who? I mean, yeah, that's very sad. This is indicative of the slide that's happened on Alex's show over the years.

There was at least once at one point the pretense of being about principle and the issues, whereas now it's all just attempts to hijack people's attention, do some trolling, and then talk about meme shit. Alex used to at least pretend to discuss documents. Now half of the time he's reporting on tweets or sub-stack posts that people write don't mean anything. Yeah. Alex used to have guests who had an air of seriousness around them, whether or not they

actually were, but people like Webster Tarpley or G. Edward Griffin, but it wasn't so long ago that they were replaced by people like Carpe Donkdom and Mike Cernovich. Alex never really had any true depth to the stuff he was saying and covering, but in his earlier career, there was at least an expectation that he pretend. At this point, the cultural landscape has changed enough that there's no real point in even pretending. And now it's good enough just to do the troll shit and pretend that that is itself substance. Well, I mean, you can say that it's gone downhill or you could say that it's the modern Algonquin

roundtable. Sure. I mean, there are luminaries in their individual fields, Dorothy Parker, she is not Taylor Green. That's fair. Anyway, that brings us to Marjorie Taylor Green popping onto the show. She's fairly popular, which combined with her clearly extreme right-wing politics is the only reason that Alex has any interest in her that, and she's actually desperate

enough for attention that she's willing to be on info wars. There's a pretty good chance that she's going to retake her seat in the 2022 midterm election. But from a lot of what I can tell, that just has to do with the inherent advantage of incumbency. She's a really fucked up person who's willing to give speeches at Nick Fuentes' political conference and make regular appearances on info wars, which puts her in the position of being someone with a bit of a constituency ceiling. While it is true that the GOP has drifted closer to her brand of insanity in the past years, she still has a real vulnerability in terms of a potential GOP primary if she's

ever up against a really strong candidate who doesn't pal around with Nazis and washed up liars who terrorize the families of murdered children. Or if she's up against the grand dragon of the KKK. She can go way too far. Yeah, it could go way further worse than everybody's like, wow, why we even bother with her? This is the grand dragon. Actually, I think you're wrong. If the grand dragon of the KKK was in the GOP primary against her, a third person would

win because they would split the vote with the racist vote. There would be the misogynist racist votes and the non misogynist racist vote. They would split the vote that is under her constituency ceiling, right? And that would be a problem because then the third GOP candidate would probably just get everyone else. Yeah. And that would be the grand wizard. There's two.

Oh, the grand dragon. They're all they're all in there, man. I see the KKK's nuts. I see. So Marjorie enters the proceedings and I wanted to talk to her about the tipping point and the global awakening and the elites against the people. And I said, what do you want to cover first right before we went live? And she said the first thing on my list and my list was in this folder.

She hadn't seen it. So we are definitely synced up right now. So MTG. It's great to have you in Austin, Texas. It's amazing to have you in studio. Thank you so much. And I'm so happy to be here with you, Alex. I think this is the some of the most fun type of interviews I can do, so I'm so happy that

I'm here. It is an exciting interview for her because she can just talk shit and speak freely. Other interviewers would probably push back on completely insane things, you might say, but Alex is just let that shit slide and then try and outdo her bigotries on the table. Stupid conspiracy theories are treated like serious concerns. It's much more fun than being on CNN for someone who's a bigot and really loves stupid conspiracy theories. Yeah, you don't have to hold back.

No. I mean, nobody's going to be like, Hey, why do you think it's okay to sacrifice children to Cthulhu? And you'll be like, look, look, look, I never said that. I only spoke at the Cthulhu positive conference because I didn't know right and anything really that you say that's negative or problematic. It's like you're already on info wars. Yeah.

Yeah. What? What? Yeah. What are you going to say? It's anyway. The team went to Congress not too long ago and you might be surprised to learn that she was surprised about some things.

Oh yeah? Well, I tell you, for me, what I see, and I'm just a regular person, I've never been in politics before and going to Washington, the most disturbing thing that I have found is that the people in Washington, it's like a little bubble and it's this tiny little world. And it's, if you really look at it, it's a small percentage of people, but they truly look down on the rest of America and they think that everything they think in their little bubble and what they want for our country is the most important thing. But they look down on the common American man and woman and they just don't care.

They're so disconnected. Wow. That's really profound. How the thing that Marjorie learned when she went to Washington is literally the most obvious complaint that everyone has about Washington. I can't think of any complaint more obvious than they're not in touch with the working man. Wow.

Insightful. You got us. But you know, if she's so unlike these cloistered Washington bubble beings, then you would think that her legislative history would be full of all kinds of important bills that really help the people who she represents. Totally. That's what it's about. It certainly wouldn't be a bunch of shit that's essentially just playing Washington

politics games and appealing to right wing media entities. I was going to pull this up here, you know? See, it looks like she's introduced 18 bills in the time that she's been in office. Oh, good for her. And two were about expelling Maxine Waters from the house and her committee assignments. Oh, shit. How did that go? Well, it didn't go well.

But this was back in April, 2021. So this is when the right wing media was all up in arms about Waters saying that people should stay in the street and protest through the Chauvin trial. Right. Right. Right. Right. This is definitely something that's super relevant to the constituents in Georgia's

14th. It looks like Congressperson from California keeps her committee assignments. That's definitely not just a desperate ploy to ride the wave of right wing media attention and get a little bit of it for yourself. And like I mentioned, both of them died in committee. Yeah. Oh, look at this. She also introduced four bills trying to impeach Joe Biden.

Oh, how did those go? You know, they didn't go well. Shit. I guess it's a little more relevant to Georgia voters since Georgia is in the United States. True. But this seems like it's a little much. Maybe. She also introduced a number of bills are obviously going to die in committee, but had

names that was perfect for folks in the right wing media to cover stuff like the we will not comply act or the fire fouchy act. You can't write a law that that's called we will not comply. Otherwise, I have to resist that law. I can't. Oh, look at this. In November, she introduced a bill HR 6070, which was known as the Kyle H. Rittenhouse Congressional Gold Medal Act.

She wanted to give Rittenhouse a congressional gold medal. You know, that thing that's been awarded to people like Rosa Parks, Nelson Mandela and Jonas Salk. This seems like something that if I were just a regular person living in Rome or Calhoun or Dalton, Georgia, I'd be pretty interested in my representative taking the time to do that stuff. Right. Fight my battles for me.

It is like the people in Washington are just disconnected and all they want to do is give gold medals to murderers, you know, and it's like, I know people think that that Washington's working for them, but I swear to you, all they want to do is give gold medals to murderers. All they want to do is do stuff that's red meat for the right wing media. They just love it. It's a fine criticism of Congress to say that Congress members are often two in their own world and in a bubble. But the reality is that Marjorie Taylor Greene is in a bubble, too.

It's a way worse bubble. It's a bubble where the mechanisms of government really only exist in order to create opportunities to bring yourself more media attention and thus strengthen your own brand. It's essentially all Marjorie has been doing since she's gotten to office, introducing these meaningless bills that are red meat for extreme right wing media, going on tour with Matt Gaetz, speaking at Nick Fuentes' event and now showing up on Alex's show more than once. The normal congressional person's bubble may be an issue because it does keep them a

bit detached from the larger world, but Marjorie Taylor Greene's bubble essentially only has room in it for herself, which is a big, big problem. Yeah. She's in a bubble that's created by delirium from the Sandman comics. We have to go downright mythical to get to the level of weird-ass bubble she's in. I got really lost there because I thought you were saying that reading the Sandman comics gives one delirium. No, no, no.

I forgot. Delirium is the character. Delirium of the endless. Right, right, right. So look, these people in Washington, they don't care about important things like... Bastards. ...Canadian trucking and protest. Oh, Canadians.

They're so disconnected. That's why all they want is war in Ukraine instead of even thinking about truckers who deliver food and supplies. They don't even care about kids wearing masks. They don't care about our border with fentanyl pouring across, killing young people and being the number one cause of death, not COVID-19. And it just bothers me so much. They treat me as if I'm some kind of crazy person, like I have three horns coming out

of my head. You got it. The guy you're talking to is the one who talks about people having horns coming out of their head being demons and such. This is just a string of words that are meant to appeal to a far right base, but ultimately what Green is saying makes no sense. What's the relationship between any of these thoughts? You can see that there isn't any, because right wing media training is essentially just

go out there and list off as many grievances as you can. Something will stick. Cram it into the sentence. It doesn't matter what your sentence is about. Cram a little aside in there that's like, and Democrats kill everybody. So then then go to get to gas prices, Democrats murder everybody in the face and gases up by five cents. It's kind of like a poorly executed debate strategy.

Yeah. Now you have to make a bunch of points as quick as you can, but it's just done. This is done terribly. It's awful. So also fentanyl is absolutely not the number one cause of death in the country. Even with COVID, that honor still goes to heart disease with cancer coming in second. In 2020, 700,000 people died from heart disease. Yeah, it's really bad.

What she means is that fentanyl is the number one cause of death of Americans aged 18 to 45, which is a problem, but ultimately she doesn't have a solution other than yelling about China or the border or something. If she wanted to make a concrete difference in this area, she would support safe access to drug sampling and test strips so people can know if the drugs that they're using contain fentanyl. This would be ultimately unacceptable to someone like Marjorie though, because it would be tacitly accepting the reality that some people do drugs.

And you can't have that. Same thing with like safe needle programs and the right wing opposition to that shit. I'm telling you. Okay. So you think this is, you think this is a bad idea, but we've never tried to limit the supply of drugs coming in. See, because if you limit the supply, then people won't get it. So all you have to do is close up those borders and there's no way that drugs will find their

way into this country. It's just like whenever we prohibited alcohol, it worked and nobody got alcohol into this country. Not one time. It totally worked. It was a 100% effective scam and I don't know why anybody stopped it. Terrible idea. Woof.

So Alex, Alex, you recall from Alex's shirt of the presidents, one of the things that was glaring in it was that for some reason, Teddy Roosevelt had a non-descript or a non-random bland face. Right. He just had a fun mustache and a hat. He had his own caricature, although it was in the wrong place in the order. Yeah. It was definitely supposed to be Teddy.

And it's because of Alex's favorite speech, the man in the arena speech. And so now Alex bestows the highest honor upon Marjorie Taylor Green. Oh, God, no, don't. He calls her a woman in the arena. Don't do that. God damn it. What was the journey running like for Congress and winning by record numbers and being demonized and attacked being the woman in the arena that Teddy Roosevelt talked about?

What has that process been like? Because it seems like in the last three years, it's made you stronger, not weaker. So Roosevelt's speech was about the man in the arena and it's very specifically not about the woman in the arena. When Teddy Roosevelt was president, a woman wouldn't have been allowed into the arena literally or metaphorically. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt was president from 1901 to 1909 and women didn't have the right to vote

until 1920, the ratification of the 19th Amendment. The first woman was elected to Congress in 1916 and Rebecca Felton was the first woman in the Senate in 1922, but she was appointed to fill a vacancy and only served for one day because she was installed as a PR move on the part of the governor who was running in the upcoming Senate election and didn't want to appoint somebody to fill the vacancy that he might lose against. Also unfortunately, Felton was a white supremacist and she's remembered as the last slave owner to be in the Senate.

So that sucks. Yep. I set out to talk about one depressing thing and it turns out we found another. Well, I'm telling you, I'm starting to think that if you go back into America's history, you're going to find a lot of ugly shit. Same fairness, Teddy Roosevelt would come out in favor of women's suffrage in 1912, but the speech that Alex is referring to is from 1910. So it's a little incongruous.

Anyway, you know, there's some deep, deep lessons that you learn when you go into Congress and Marjorie has the opposite of those. When I got there, this is what they told me, Marjorie, that's not how we do things. You see, they wanted me to come there. They want all the new members of Congress to come and learn. So talk about that. Talk about so. So I mean, how did it have to kind of pull you aside, take you to lunch?

What happens? Well, it just comes gradually from different people. And so they have their committees, everything set up on committees, and what you have to do is you have to vote the way the chairman or the leaders of the committees want you to vote. And that's how you're being a team player and that's how you're doing the right thing. And if you're not doing that, then they want to minimize you. They want to punish you.

They want to push you out. They do not want your bills or your, your voice to be, you know, you're saying it's not just the Democrats doing this, just the Republicans. Oh, a thousand percent. Alex and Marjorie legitimately sound like children having this conversation. Wild. Like, are they really surprised that political parties have a vested interest in corralling the votes of elected representatives within their parties?

I started a new job and this guy, this guy, he was like, you have to do what I say. What? Well, I mean, that's a, it's a little bit less direct than the boss, but it's a coalition. Right. Is there, is it really something that they're going to present as a conspiracy here that political parties derive their power for being able to vote as a block and that that's essentially how the democracy works? Wild.

Honestly, this is painful to listen to not only because it's stupid, but because it reveals a shocking level of disdain that Alex and Marjorie have for the people who are listening to them. What Marjorie is describing is it's not strong armed tactics or some kind of a weird conspiracy within Washington. It's caucusing. Marjorie's actual complaint is that she didn't have the political capital to dictate the direction of the party in her first term in office.

It's really an expression of narcissism and entitlement being disguised as some kind of complaint about party politics. Yeah. If she has a problem with the GOP, she's more than welcome to leave the party and become an independent and then she won't have to get all the shit that she might get if she doesn't want to vote with the party on some important vote. She can't do that though because the GOP has a very powerful fundraising machine and without that R next to her name, she'd be essentially fucked in any election in her

district, especially if that fundraising machine were to go behind one of her opponents. What you hear Marjorie expressing here is essentially impotence because she doesn't understand how to make things work in government and she's not willing to figure it out. Why would you when doing this kind of bullshit and doing media spectacles is clearly more profitable for you than governing? Yeah, totally. Fundraising is hard. Using your power and your elected influence to make money for yourself is astonishingly

easy. It is. I mean, she's already made a shit ton of money in the stock market just because she knows shit that she's not supposed to. I don't know that to be true, but I'll take your word for it. Yeah, man. They all do. It's all fucking corrupt.

Well, I was looking at her primary race in Georgia and the discrepancy between her fundraising and her next closest opponent. Big gap. Little different. Big gap. Weird. Weird. Weird.

Weird. Weird. Weird. It's almost like there's a correlation between how much money you have and then how likely you are to win. Well, and also being part of the political party lends you a little bit more credibility and such within the fundraising apparatus. No, and you have a lot more resources.

You can hear her literally being like ignoring the fact that, yes, that's why you're part of the Republican party and just being like, I shouldn't have to make trade offs. I should get everything I want. I want your money. I want your power. I want your influence. And I want to do whatever the fuck I want to do and you not to question me. I want to be able to reject whatever you bring to the table that I don't want.

And I want to be able to insist that you back up everything I want to do. And all right, fine. That is an adult. Great. I mean, if that's really how you model or that's what you want government to be, great. It's counterproductive. It's stupid. Yep.

But obviously you wouldn't present it that way. You present it the way she is because otherwise you sound like an idiot. Otherwise you sound like a child. Yes. Yeah. Who needs to fucking take a civics class? I don't know. I want to be a person in charge.

Right. You cannot be forced to accept publicly the rampant narcissism that's behind your beliefs. So there's an interesting question that comes up from Alex and that is, Hey, Hey, Marjorie. Who's more evil? Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. Okay. Or Mitch McConnell. What do you think?

What do you think? Dangerous. Yeah. Such a difficult question for Marjorie Taylor Greene. So who's more evil? Somebody like AOC that's an admitted communist that flies first class and wears $8,000 outfits, but says a hard-working mom or dad running a business, making $50,000 a year is greedy. Is she bad because she admits she's evil?

She admits she's out in the open. Or is somebody like Mitch McConnell more evil? Because he claims he's with us, but he makes sure that that power structure stays in place. Well, there's a big comparison there. I would say AOC is definitely anti-American. She's against our American ways. She's honest about it though. She'll tell you.

Whereas Mitch McConnell, he lies to your face. He says he's a Republican. He's the leader in the Senate of the Republican Party, but he's married to Elaine Chao and they are fully bought and paid for by China. On record. On record. Wow. So first of all, AOC isn't a communist.

Nope. Second, this is a really interesting thing for Marjorie to be doing because in some ways this kind of behavior is only really going to drive a further wedge between her and the party. She seems so frustrated that she isn't in control of that kind of seems counterproductive because as grim as things may seem, the odds of enough completely insane people like her getting voted into the house to make a coalition that she could, you know, use to get sway. It's kind of low.

Yeah. And the odds of them being able to actually work together also incredibly low. Yeah. They'd call it the CCC, the crazy coup coalition. And then you'd be like, wait a second, that could be KKK. And then you're like, oh, I get it. And then they're just trolling you to say that. They make a million dollars.

Jesus Christ. I want to die. So in 2021, Green tried to start the America first caucus, but was only able to bring in Paul Gosar, Matt Gaetz and Louis Gohmert. Immediately after announcing the faction, the GOP leadership expressed their strong disapproval of it and the group disbanded, most likely because people like Louis Gohmert knows where his bread is buttered. And having a group that's just Paul Gosar, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie is a little too obvious

what they're actually for. Yeah. And maybe you don't want to sign up for that. Well, speaking of making things too obvious. On their policy platform statement, the America first caucus had a section about immigration that's a little bit too on the nose. They kept referring to people as, quote, post 1965 immigrants, which is a dog whistle to white nationalists who believe that the Hart-Seller Act passed in 1965 was an affairious plot to

diminish the white population in the country by stealthily bringing in non-white immigrants. I mean, just really putting those specifics down on paper for people to see. Yeah. Marjorie have big ideas, but unfortunately at their core, they're hateful bigots. And so their big ideas only really attract other bigots and castoffs and they can't really help but wink to their bigot audience and their statements of beliefs. And then when the whole thing doesn't work, naturally Marjorie pretends that she had no idea about that policy position paper.

She took her shot and failed because the accumulation of political power when you want to work within and without the established party hierarchy is complicated. It takes precision tools and she's just a jackhammer, so she'll just end up destroying anything she tries to create outside of publicity stunts. Those you don't need a soft touch for. You need to yell and she could do that fine. It's not hard. No, it's not.

So as for Elaine Chao, Mitch McConnell's wife, I'm not sure if she and Mitch are on the Chinese payroll and I don't know how much of that is being said by Marjorie just because Chao is Chinese. 100%. I suspect that too. Yep. In reality, Chao's family owns a shipping company that does business in China called Foremost Group.

Though she's not formally connected to the company, they stood to gain from foreign policy decisions that Trump could make and let's not forget that Trump named Chao his secretary of transportation. That seems almost. Hmm. Yeah, but you don't want to touch that part of it because then it looks bad for Trump. It looks bad for everybody, doesn't it? Right.

So this seems like a case of racism intersecting with some good old fashioned corruption and it's being depicted as proof that someone is a spy for China. Let's pretend that Elaine Chao actually is a Chinese spy. Let me make Trump look like a real idiot for making her part of his cabinet. Sure would. Let's not unpack that, though, because this isn't a real accusation. It's mostly just racism. Yep.

It's easy to be racist and, fuck, Mitch McConnell doesn't care. Probably not. McConnell's... What are you talking about? McConnell? McConnell cares. He's the orchestrator of some of the most racist shit in the world. So look, but the reality is, though, that Marjorie, she believes in the people, much

like Dusty Rhodes. The people drive me. I don't like that. I don't like that I said that. You know, sometimes I wonder, is it too late? But I don't think so. I still hold on to hope constantly because I do believe in the American people. I think the Americans...

I mean, I believe in you. I mean, I know you're for real. I know your voting record's amazing. So we'll get to Green's voting record, but I wanted to bring up something that I didn't realize until I was poking around about Marjorie for this episode. Did you know that between May 2021 and January 2022, Marjorie was fined at least 34 times for not wearing a mask in the House chamber? I knew she was fined a shit ton.

Did not know. Is that many times? She's believed to have been fined at least $78,000 for not wearing a mask over the course of about seven months. That's approximately three times the per capita annual income for people in her home district, Georgia's 14th. Yeah. What an amazingly childish asshole.

Hey, luckily the good news is, either one, no one will ever come to court. Either collect it, or two, it will come out of the taxpayer's money. The second one, 100% true. Yep. Also, gun to his head, Alex couldn't come up with a single vote Marjorie has cast. He has no idea what a record is like outside of her record of making inflammatory public statements and he likes those. Do you remember that time she voted yes?

I remember that one. Sure. I was going over her record and there are a couple of interesting points that come up. The first is that she did vote against the GOP's position in her time in Congress so far, 4.2% of the time, making her the third most frequent person in the house going against their party. Of course. That makes some sense though, but what was really wild is that if you look at the list,

the top 41 of them are all Republicans. Yeah, of course. It's there's chaos in the house for the Republicans. Well, I mean, they all agree on the big things like killing people who disagree with them. And then that causes problems because on the inside they disagree with each other. So it's like they got to have a constant stream of people to hate outside of there otherwise. If we just shut off TV around the Senate for like two weeks, there would be 22 Republican senators left.

They would have just eaten each other. And six new political parties. Yes. At least. Yes. With many amputees. I was I was pretty shocked at that, that, that lack of sort of coalition management. The top 41 people in the house with the highest percentage of voting against their party line

right with all Republicans nuts. Anyway, the second thing is I realized that I'd get into her voting record, but I realized what's the point? Alex doesn't get a break up. Any specifics? Nope. Who cares? Nobody cares.

Not at all. Not one of her votes has mattered about anything. A large part of this interview is rank transphobia. It's pretty bad, right? Pretty not pretty just unacceptable all around. Yeah. Alex introduces this next segment here, just reading off a laundry list of deceptive and misrepresented headlines that he's using for the sake of spreading transphobic narratives.

And it gets to this clip, which is pretty bad. MTG is here to give her take on this so much to deal with her. Oh, I think it's I think it's straight evil. First off, if I was a parent and my fifth grade daughter had had to sleep and shower in some kind of cabin at some summer camp that I paid money to send my child to. And there was a man calling himself a woman sleeping in her cabin, showering with her. That guy would he'd be in jail. Well, first off, my husband would have beat him into the ground and then he'd be in jail.

But this is exactly how we need to stand up against this stuff. So one thing that's pretty important to point out here is the story that Marjorie is talking about involved absolutely no wrongdoing by anybody. No child was hurt or anything. The entire issue is that one of the counselors at a science camp that fifth graders went to was non-binary and used they them pronouns. This has to do with a fifth grade group of students from Los Alamitos who went to a camp called Camp Pali.

If any of the people who participated in outrage rants like Marjorie here took the time to look into this at all, they could learn a little bit more about this camp and realize that it's more or less a luxury camping setup. When they say that the kids stayed in the cabin with the counselors, it's meant to evoke the idea that they're staying in like this tiny shack. But in reality, they're big buildings that house 10 students in bunk beds and have separate rooms that the counselors stay in. Also each cabin has two to three private bathrooms and showers, so there's no communal showering

going on here at all. From everything I can tell, this started as a local news report from KTLA about two parents who were mad that the school district didn't tell them that someone who worked at the camp that their children were sent to was non-binary and if they'd known, they wouldn't have sent their children. From everything I can tell, no other parents were upset and I can't find a bunch of other complaints from other parents who had sent their children to this camp, but that's enough to kick off a right-wing media campaign and it has.

The fact that everything was fine at the camp and no child was mistreated leads to folks having to show their cards a little bit too clearly on this one. Nothing happened, but to Marjorie, the mere existence of a non-binary person in proximity to children is a threat to that child because she believes that trans and non-binary people are inherently dangerous to children in the same way that the right-wing media made that argument about gay people in the 80s or black people decades prior. Doing the same game over again is disgusting. Also Marjorie needs to be way more careful with her language.

I have no idea how intentional what she said was, but at the end of that clip, if you just take her words in the context of how she said them, she's advocating for committing acts of violence against trans and non-binary people. She's pretending that it's about people sleeping or showering with these students, but in the case she's talking about, that didn't happen. The story she's basing her outrage on is just that a non-binary person was employed somewhere. That's the long and short of it. All I'm saying is if these people act in the way that they never have, never will, and

frankly wouldn't make any sense at all for anyone, then I think we should commit violence against them and that they won't, can't, and never will should not stop us from continuing to commit violence against them. It's just, it's just abhorrent, and this becomes kind of a main sticking point throughout some of the stuff that we're going to be talking about today, this case of that camp, and it's just, I mean, it's all around unacceptable. But of course this leads to a conversation about trans people in sports, and so- Cause great, cause fine.

Here we go with that. Great. And then the men, this guy, Leah, Leah Thompson, I'm sorry, and he's not a she, he's a he, he should not be competing in women swimming. Fuck you. Any time he wins, he did not win, whoever came in second place, the real girl in the race, she's the winner. Fuck you.

He should be thrown out of swimming completely. Fuck you. All of the men, I do not care about, it shouldn't matter about what they do in their bedroom if they want to wear a dress line. Fuck you. But what they're doing is they are defeating women. It's about beating women down, and the left stands up for it, and this is where America needs to say enough.

Most Americans agree that this is wrong, and it's absolutely ridiculous. And I don't know why Fox News or anyone else goes along with the whole pronouns, the he's in the she's in the she's in whatever. These are men. We need to call them what they are. They're men, that makes them a he, a him, and not play this pronoun game anymore. And let's expand on that. Oh, that's a great thing for Alex to just be like, yeah, let's go along, let's go even

further. Wow. So the trans athletes thing is there's a convenient, easy place for people like Alex and Marjorie to hide their hate, because it gives the pretense of their bigotry coming from a place other than what it is, which is just hate. I've never once on his show or any like it heard a conversation about trans man athletes and whether or not they think it's wrong for them to compete in men's sports, because that doesn't work for the narrative that they're trying to use this mask to cover.

On the same page, you'll never hear a frank discussion about unsuccessful trans women athletes, because again, that cuts the opposite direction of how they need the image to look for their propaganda to work. If you knew that there were plenty of successful trans man athletes competing in men's sports and that many trans women athletes are either just okay or not very dominant in their sport, it would complicate the issue to the point where people like Alex and Marjorie couldn't use it anymore. And that's why they just ignored the other side of the story.

Oh, yeah, of course. The other aspect of it entirely. Yep. Now, I want to put a fine point on this in the way that I mean to be very emphatic about what Marjorie Taylor Greene is doing here isn't making a political statement about trans athletes or anything like it. She's categorically dismissing the validity of trans people's existence. At very least, she's reducing being trans to being a purely sexual thing by saying things

like whatever you do in your bedroom. This is an unacceptable level of ignorance for a person who's an elected official to have. It's just outrageous. And it's particularly relevant for someone like Marjorie because she represents a district in Georgia, which happens to be the state with the fourth highest percentage of the population who identify as trans. It's very relevant to her constituency, probably a lot more so than whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse

gets a gold star from Congress. This is actually a very destructive thing for her being able to represent the people of her state. I mean, you know, it is such that she... It's a club and it is so fucking disgusting to me that it's just like, how? How? Why? What do you...

And it's just like, she just gets personal satisfaction. That's it. You know? Like really at the end of the day, she gets nothing more than the personal satisfaction of having hurt people because she can get money out of it, but she could get money in any other different fucking way. You know? You don't have to go to Congress to get money.

And frankly, you don't have to go to Congress to hate trans people and get money for doing that. It's just that she fucking hates people. And then everybody gets so happy for her like, oh, wow, you're so great. Keep hating people. Keep hating people. Well, I think a part of it too is signaling to the folks, you know, there's the method of accumulating power, which is engaging in the communal demonization of the chosen

victim or the vulnerable group that the rest of your group is ostracizing at that time. And I think that she gets something out of that as being part of signaling and making very concrete that she is part of this in group that is doing the hating of this vulnerable group. So Alex has some old talking points. He wants to weave back in and that's it's just gross. And like you said, they're stealing women's spaces and children are being fucked by Queen Storytime that a big fat man and a clown outfit is a woman.

I'm sorry. That's not a woman. That's a big fat man or a little boy dressed up like a girl. This is all very, very sexualization of children. In fact, I can't show this video in Austin part of what we have. They had men on stage with little kids giving them money who had no G-strings on saying they were women with glitter on their genitals and hugging little kids. Naked men.

This is four years ago in Austin. Naked men literally grabbing children. No, how did we get here, Alex? I can't even understand that. So Alex ignores this, but most drag queens aren't trans. Drag is a performance art and doesn't really correlate with someone's gender identity. But even beyond that, Alex is using talking points that are way past their expiration date.

That is old stuff. Also, that video that Alex is describing doesn't exist. I've seen the video that he claims depicts that, and it's absolutely not what he's describing. Alex is lying to a member of Congress in an attempt to make them even more radically anti-trans than they already are, which is a boof. Man, you know, it's like, how did we get to this point? The other day, I saw my neighbor. She put a frog, a frog into a cauldron, a cauldron, dad.

She dropped that frog in there, the cow, three doors down, immediately fell to the floor. That is her fault entirely. How did we get here? How did we let this happen? It's unfathomable. You know what? We got to follow the fucking rules of the Lord. Yeah.

I think that I hate this content, but there's something about it that I think would be negligent if we didn't bring it up in as much as this is a sitting member of Congress that is actively engaging in this with Alex, and it's bad, man. Yeah. No, a member of Congress is engaging in stochastic terrorism in order to get trans youth killed. So, yeah, I would say that's the summation, and I can't express how infantile even these thoughts that she's bringing to the table are. This is such perversion, but it's also grooming children.

It's grooming them to believe things that are lies and that are completely wrong. No, children are not born a certain way thinking they're another gender. It's their parents that are training them that way. It's these mothers that think it's like a handbag. They need to have a boy, a girl, and a trans child, like as if there's some kind of accessory. A status, exactly. It's like Hollywood stars and all the things they've engaged in. Exactly.

What? Alex, why did Alex stop himself when he was clearly saying a status symbol? That was clearly what he was about to say. He stopped himself somehow and then changed it to like what Hollywood stars do, which I assume he means like having a dog in her purse or something. Is that it? I thought it was more like Angelina Jolie, maybe. That's a possibility.

Like adopting kids from places. That's a possibility. Yeah. I suppose. Yeah. Either, either are possible. But yeah, this is a grotesque perspective. So she also has some complaints about people not stopping this or something.

I don't really, this is just awful. Yeah. No, it's really disturbing. But here's what bothers me the most is so many good men are silent with it. They won't say anything, Alex, like they don't stand up and protect us. We want men to, real men to stand up and say, we're not going to allow you in our daughter's bathrooms. We aren't going to allow you in our girls' cabins at camp.

We aren't going to allow you to beat down our women and our daughters. But we need. Like in the UFC or other, the UFC so much, but other MMA fighting, they let biological men literally kill women in some cases. So there have been two open trans women who've competed in MMA professionally. There was Fallon Fox who retired in 2014 and Alana McLaughlin, who has had one professional fight so far, not for the UFC, but for combat global. None of Fallon's fights were UFC fights.

Most of them were with a championship fighting alliance. That is to say that there's not been a trans woman fighter competing in the UFC. Right. But that doesn't mean that they haven't been killed. Well, I think that Alex is just lying about how in her last fight before retiring, Fallon Fox did break her opponent's skull in the ring. And then he's conflating that with a 2019 story about Sita Aletha, who was a woman fighter in the UK who competed in the Fast and Furious fight series.

Aletha, she suffered a brain injury in her fight, which ended up leading to her death the next day. Her opponent, Jamie Morgan, is a cis woman. Alex is combining these things and making up details in order to suit his purposes because this is a transphobic episode he's got going on here with Marjorie Taylor Greene. And why not pretend that Hey, listen, if the enemy that you want isn't doing the thing that you need them to do in order to make them your enemy. Just say they are.

Yeah. Just say it. So we're going to jump off this, this subject, because there's more that is said that is disgusting. Yeah, disgusting and awful and unacceptable in the exact same vein and playing playing anything more would really kind of tend to be, I think it might feel like wallowing around and like them being awful for the sake of demonstrating the awfulness. Right.

I think it's their virtue signaling in a, in a sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll jump to, to this where we get back to civics and and our lack of understanding of them. Someone's lack of understanding of them. Yes, that's for sure.

But here's something that a lot of people don't understand about Congress. So most of the bills that get passed are passed by voice vote. That is until this year. And you know, everyone remembers the story of me being kicked off committees. Not that big of a deal because Democrats are in control and Republicans can't really do much on committees anyways when the Democrats control the House. And that was a bad, you know, honor. Absolutely.

Because that means, you know what? That means the swamp knew exactly who I am. They knew that I wasn't going to hand over my, they didn't want you looking at the legislation. Sorry. Go ahead. Nobody wants you looking at the legislation. That kind of mentality is just incompatible with getting anything done. The consequences as virtue, it's just that like, you know that, you know that you're

on the right track when everyone does not like you. Imagine like apply that sort of thinking to Osama bin Laden. Sure. Yeah. I mean, nobody gets more right than that. Just think about the all sorts of negative figures. You know, everybody hated Hitler and that was everybody. Well, some of the people who are on Alex's network might actually, yeah, I think that

might be actually believe that. So Marjorie, after she lost these committee assignments that don't really matter and it's a badge of honor that she lost him to begin with. I mean, in her defense though, I will say that when everybody in the GOP kicked her off those committees, there was, they had to have been like, well, yeah, she's not here for this. No, we can, we can use her still. But this is not what, why, why would we waste our time?

There's a role for someone like this. But unfortunately, what you got to understand is when you try to use somebody like this to play a role, they will end up attacking you. The chair recognizes the Congresswoman from Georgia. Yeah. The weapon, the weapon will be turned on you. Yeah. Very quickly.

Oh yeah. This committee assignment, you know what? She decided maybe I should learn how this year government works, which is, I'm just a bill. It's so depressing. That is sad. And so when I lost my committees, I started sitting on the house floor and I don't know if you've ever heard this story, but I started sitting on the house floor and what I wanted

to do is learn the process. And so I started watching them debate the bills back and forth and they would, the person in the chair that was supposed to be Speaker Pelosi, she would or he, whoever it was with the mask on, I had no idea, but it usually wasn't Nancy. They would ask for the voice votes. And so after they debated the bill, the Democrats would say, yay. And then the Republicans on our side would say, nay. And then the person sitting there in the speaker's chair with the gavel would say the bill passed.

And like 10 members of Congress would have voted saying yes or no. Wow. I'm not kidding you. And so what I started doing is I started using floor procedure. And I started asking for roll call votes so they would debate the bill back and forth. And then this person in the chair, you know, speaker mask face or whoever it is, would ask for the voice votes. And before the bill would pass, I would say, Madam Speaker, I ask for the recorded vote.

Well, that means that all members of Congress had to come in and actually vote. You see, we have a voting card and we're supposed to use it. It's supposed to be an electronic vote and it should record all of our votes, whether it's yes or no. And so I would put my, we all are supposed to put our card in there, push yes, no or present. I don't even know why there's a present, but either yes or no. And you should know why there's present.

I've been doing this since February. The House Freedom Caucus joined in with me. And at this time, Alex, we have over 500 bills that are on record that you can actually look up any member of Congress. You can look up their vote and even see, did they even show up for work that day? Did they actually vote? Did they vote yes? Did they vote no?

They're doing it not just to manipulate the votes, but to hide the record. That is exactly what I'm telling you. Dun, dun, dun. I mean, or one could argue that it's a fucking massive government. It's true. And all of these things are negotiated for months in advance. Some of them, yeah. Yeah.

So you see, the best time to learn about what it means to be a member of the House of Representatives is when you're there and you've been kicked off your committees. Yeah. That's the time to get down to brass tax and figure out what you're supposed to be doing. It's about time. Marjorie's a real idiot, but I guess in the long run on this one, who cares? Traditionally, the House didn't vote on every measure with roll call votes because there's so many members of that body that if they were going to do it that way, it would take

forever and essentially nothing would ever get done. Conversely with just 100 members, the Senate traditionally does do roll call votes for most orders of business. It's only 100 people. The way things work is that bills or measures or resolutions that are most likely to pass or fail or put up to a voice vote and then it's decided by the speaker. People can then call for a roll call vote, so if someone contests the vote, it can be looked at more closely and the House can't get, end up getting bogged down in this laborious

ass process. Right. What Marjorie is discussing doing could have been a problem in earlier days, but at this point it's more or less just an annoyance since they have digital voting cards and they don't have to go one by one, vote yay or nay. Yeah. Also, you can go to Congress's website and look at the list of roll call votes in previous sessions of Congress and honestly it doesn't appear that there are any more or less of

them since Marjorie started doing this. For instance, there were 449 roll call votes in the first session of the present Congress compared to 705 in the first session of the 114th Congress, which was in 2015. Great. You can find the voting records for folks in the House back then and I don't think she's making an impact. No. I really don't think Marjorie is having an impact at all, at least especially not the

way she thinks she is and part of that has to be due to her clear ignorance of how government works, as evidenced by her bewilderment at the idea of a voice vote and the fact that she's confused by the idea of people voting present. This indicates that she doesn't understand the bodies of Congress and how they need a quorum to carry out business legally, so if you don't want to take a side but you also want to make sure that the vote can happen legally, the solution is to vote present. There's other situations too, but there's a lot of functions. Yeah.

It can be done in a case where the Congress member has a conflict of interest, so they can't vote one way or the other, but if they were to not vote and it leads to a quorum not being there, that in effect could be them working in some way. Which is in and of itself a vote. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a number of reasons one might vote present. Yeah.

I really would have hoped that a person would know these kind of basic things before they decide to run for Congress, but when it's all about attention and just yelling, why would you? Why would you care about how to effectively do the job you're asking people to the do? It's disgusting. It really is kind of astonishing, but then I think back about my civics education in school and it's like, yeah, I can see somebody who just has my civics education from school,

not like learning anything outside of that. Going to Congress and being like, well, this isn't how it's supposed to work. Yeah. And it's like, well, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how our own fucking government works. Or people who want to run should have to take a class or competence. There should be. I don't want it to be like a ridiculous bar of entry.

I mean, obviously that would work against people who don't need a law degree. You don't need that. But it shouldn't also be prohibitive in terms of the time commitment that it would take in order to, of course, like it gets them. Then you've created an aristocratic ruling class, which we already have. And I just, I find it to be really difficult to think how government can function if people like Marjorie, who have no idea how any of this stuff works, are the people who get elected. It's electing a stick to a wheel conference.

Right. Right. Does that work? No. I mean, but it is so counterproductive, too. Because she thinks, and these dum-dums think, that if they go in there and they disrupt the process, then that will give them more power and bring more attention to the subject. When in reality, when you go in there and you obstruct the process, that only makes people

who have any actual power avoid you go as far away from this bullshit as they can in order to do things in those secret back rooms that you hate so much. Well, there's that. And there's also like, you know, obviously we're living in a point where the Democrats are in control of the House and Biden is president. And so the people who maybe wield more of the centralized power within the Republican Party obviously don't mind someone who's just meaninglessly obstructionist. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So when they're trying to not get anything done, hooray. Yeah, you're the best. Yeah. You're a hero. Anybody else comes into office, the House flips Republican, all of a sudden they try to push an agenda through. She becomes a problem for the Republicans.

Suddenly she's gone. Weird. Suddenly the relationship is a little bit different and your antics aren't as fun anymore. So anyway, you got to give her some money. They're coming after you. They got PACs after you. They're running scams. We need you to win with a record level or they could remove you from Congress when you're

such an important person there. How do people donate to MTG? Well, I really appreciate you asking that. Go to WizardsToTheCoast.com. It's so important. I'm only supported by regular people. I don't take money from lobbyists or PACs. MTGforAmerica.com.

Wow. So here's some of the donors that Marjorie's gotten money from this cycle. Here's some regular, regular people, dude. Raytheon, Berkshire Hathaway, Lockheed Martin, Chevron, Coke Industries. Regular people. It's something called America First Events. Oh, that's probably not. That's probably the most evil of the problem.

Un-Googleable name. I'll tell you that. Yeah. I accepted money from the House Freedom Fund and the Freedom First political action committee. Both are registered PACs. So she's a liar. Regular people. But it's also actually worse than that when you actually consider Marjorie's larger record.

In 2021, she probably broke House rules when she appeared in an ad soliciting donations for a group called the Stop Socialism Now PAC. The issue is that candidates and elected officials can't solicit donations larger than $5,000, but people could give an unlimited amount to PACs. So this was a super unethical thing for her to do. Like the system's already unethical, like the fundamental system is already unethical. At a certain point, even the Republicans are like, Jesus Christ, it's already a scam. Not only that though, at the end of last year, when Marjorie was going on tour with Matt

Gates, part of that was at least in part to, it was meant to promote their joint fundraising organization, the Put America First PAC. That completely fell apart because they spent all their money they raised on a tour, which was a bust. And then the PAC ended up essentially broke. Anyway, Green has no problem with incredibly shady campaign finance stuff. This is all bullshit. And it's, it's that's virtue signaling if I ever saw it, but it's also like, if you

understand the funding difference between her and her next closest, I think it's Jennifer Strahan is the, the, the, the, the other person running who's closest to her. It's comical. The gap between them. There's no reason that anybody in Alex's audience should be sending her money even if they believe in her. Wow. It's, it's ridiculous.

This is a total scam. Anyway, she has an idea though. To me, you know, they talk about the civil war and the GOP. Well, I fully embrace it because I believe that iron sharpens iron. And we need to be the GOP conference that actually does something for a change instead of talking about it on Fox news. You see, I think Republicans have a job to do and that is your job is talking about it.

Party. We need to be the American party. Yes. The American party. So fun. How these do on a party. That's the American party. It's not left or right.

It's the American party. Now, I will say that it happens to have literally all of the positions that are miles to the right of the current GOP. And they think that anybody who's on the left is a literal demon, but it's not about left or right. It's about America. And we're the people who, when we go to government, we don't know anything about how it works.

It's almost like we don't know anything. We could shorten it. We know nothing. Let's make a party. This is no. Oh, shit. We've done this before. Haven't we?

As they say, patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, but there's an addendum to that. It's also an early refuge for really lazy con artists. It's what's going on here. Yeah. Anyway, that's about as much as there is in the February 20th episode. I will say that I think that the most relevant element of this is like, I know that Marjorie was awful, but I didn't know that she was this ill-equipped to be in government.

When I heard her talk about being surprised by the idea of voice votes or not knowing why people vote present, that was troubling. Yeah. That's, that's a problem. And then a larger problem, obviously, is the willingness to be so explicitly and disgustingly transphobic in response to what is, at its core, a benign story, a totally benign story that is that nothing happened that features zero events that features only the existence. It might as well have been like, Hey, Dan, I went to a God camp when I was younger, right?

End of story. Dude, I went. There were people there. I was on a mission trip with K life and like they did make people shower together. Oh yeah. And I didn't because I was uncomfortable with it and I was made fun of for it. And while we were in the bunks, like one of the dudes who was a, like our leader, who's a college dude is running around naked, whipping like high schoolers with a towel.

Yes. Classic cisgender good behavior that no parent could object to. Right. That story to other people who went to like Christian camps and it's never like, I can't believe that happened. I was like, yeah, something like that kind of happened. I went, I went naked, naked ziplining with a fucking Christian band all in their twenties who were camp counselors and they, but they grabbed me out of bed at like two in the morning

to go take me naked ziplining. Right. No one had a problem with this. And those are not okay things that happen. No. They are definitely more problematic than the story that Marjorie and Alex were responding to and made a transphobic meal out of. Oh yeah.

Yeah. No, no. If any one of those band members was a they, then it would have been a problem. Maybe not them though. Well, if it wasn't the hot issue for the GOP at that point, it was a God camp. If they were, they, it would have been trouble. Fine. Yeah.

So while she was in Austin, Alex and Marjorie apparently went to dinner. And they released a little six minute video of him interviewing her, I guess, about how Nancy Pelosi doesn't wear masks enough. It's a little dumb. And honestly, it has the feeling of a couple people drinking and then one of them grabbing the camera and saying, Oh, that was gold. Say that thing you said so I can record it. It's very clunky.

It's a six minute video, but actually only two minutes or Alex talking to Marjorie. The other two thirds of the video is a compilation of people like Joe Rogan and Tim Poole talking about how right Alex is about everything. Wow. It's self-aggrandizing as if Alex has every reason to assume that having Marjorie Taylor Green in this video is going to draw eyes to it. So while he has people's attention, the main goal is really to make sure that people know that idiots like Joe and Tim like him.

It's pretty bizarre. Also, Marjorie says that she's going to be starting a podcast. And it's hard to tell, but there are two possible impressions that this video is meant to convey. One is that her podcast is going to be done through info wars. The other is that Alex desperately wants to give that impression, though it's not true. Yeah. But I would caution Marjorie against this plan.

She actually doesn't seem to have much to say. And I think if she did a podcast, it would overexpose her. And honestly, I don't know how much of an actual committed audience she has. You have to factor in the reality that most of her audience is probably a bit outside the normal podcast audience demographics. And younger people who support her, you know, like Nick Fuentes as followers, they look at her as just a useful tool to bring their white identity ideology closer to the mainstream. She's not somebody who they would take the time to listen to.

She's a thing to them. It would be a very sad moment when she's like, what do you mean? I'm not a puppet. I'm a real boy. And they're like, oh, lady, lady, come on. That's nice of you. Oh, you're so cute. Yeah.

Oh, you enjoy our Pio. Think we like you. Oh, you guys are. You guys are so ruffling their hair. Anyway, this is all dumb. Also, dumb was Marjorie showing up on the war room to chat with Owen. And we're not going to talk about that. So some other dumb things happened over the next days, the last bit in our

present day, the Washington Post story came out that they released a video of Roger Stone offering to give someone a pardon or try and get someone a pardon for $100,000 and saying that Trump was the worst mistake in American history and strangely really wanting to get out of town fast after things popped off at the Capitol on January 6th. Really wild that he would want to do that. Yeah. The stuff about Trump was probably just him throwing a temper tantrum

because Trump pardoned Steve Bannon and he hates Bannon. And the selling a pardon thing is just good old fashioned Roger Stone corruption. But apparently Roger has decided to claim that those videos are deep fakes. They're deep fakes made by the North Koreans to disrupt proper working of the heavenly features of Roger Stone. Whatever. This is really dumb.

But I guess it's good enough for the infor's audience. I don't particularly care about what Roger has to say anymore. If I'm being totally honest, it seems really clear to me that the walls are closing in around him and that he's going to be increasingly combative until eventually he goes back to jail. Yeah. It's really disconcerting how many different groups that were involved in planning to riot on January 6th.

He was directly involved with. I think that's something we're going to learn even more about in the future. Yeah. Joshua James is the Oathkeeper member who pled guilty to seditious conspiracy. And guess what? He was providing security for Roger Stone on January 5th, along with Stewart Rhodes team leader for January 6th, Michael Simmons. I bet he heard them talking.

Weird. Yeah. In addition to that, Roger was working really closely and even directly with Allie Alexander on Stop the Steel stuff. Right. And Allie got a permit to hold an event on the Capitol grounds under false pretenses, which incidentally was the rally that Alex was trying to lead a massive people to.

That doesn't sound like a problem at all. Also, Roger has deep ties to the Proud Boys, the leadership of which just got arrested on conspiracy charges related to January 6th. And if you read their indictment, it's super clear they plan to storm the Capitol well in advance. Roger has deep connections to all three of these entities, two of which have well documented plans to do what they did on the 6th, but she's really weird.

Yeah. I would say that if Roger isn't super guilty here, he has some real serious explaining and soul searching to do about how he's mixed up with all these people who are planning to try to overthrow the government. He had no idea what they were up to. I'm looking forward to the moment in court where the defense lawyer is like, I would like to remind everybody we have a presumption of innocence in this country.

And then everybody in court laughs. And they're like, yeah, but you're Roger Stone. Come on, man. Get out of here. Come on, man. Anyway, Roger came around to whine about this article. And the post and then try to get the audience to give him more money. Of course.

So he's going to need money to stop all those deep fakes. Oh, so many deep fakes. So many deep fakes. So Marjorie was in person with Alex on February 20th. And that's because she'd come to town to support Christian Collins and the GOP primary for Texas's 8th district. Also present were Mike Lindell and Madison Cawthorn. The heroes of our age.

They were coming in to support this Collins guy in the primary. And on March 1st, Collins lost to Morgan LaTrell, who got 52.2 percent of the vote to Collins is 22.2 so close. Doesn't seem like right there. Doesn't seem like the combined powers of Mike Lindell, Madison Cawthorn and Marjorie Taylor Green can over overcome a 30 point loss. I mean, it's tough when you're behind that far. OK, but it was that far behind because they came.

Who knows why would they come to rally for someone who was that far behind? You wouldn't do that. No, you'd have to at least think it was close. I mean, I have to be the most grandest narcissist in the world. There would have to be some money. There's probably some pillow. There's definitely some pillow money.

But still, you know, you don't want to go and like be like, I'm a headline and I'm a wagon to this tragic loser. So then on February 25th, Green was off to Orlando, where she spoke at Nick Fuentes's pseudo clan rally and then it's CPAC the next day. People were a bit shocked and disillusioned by the depths that the GOP had sunk to where they totally fine with somebody associating with somebody who started a pro-Putin chant at his rally and spoke positively about Hitler and saying the N word one day, and then they're being

welcomed at the biggest GOP event of the year the next. Sure. This helped give a little bit more attention to the profoundly hateful things that Green had said on Info Wars a week prior to this. And there were a few articles that got written about her appearance and how it strongly implied support for violence against trans people. Yeah. What grifters do in this kind of situation is double down.

They recognize that there's a tension in them with our hills and they get to mining for it immediately. The attention hijacking economy runs largely on outrage. So if someone's mad at you about something, the best way to keep that outrage and attention pipeline open is to do more of the thing that made people angry. That's the trick. Yeah, man.

Conversely, an elected official really has a responsibility to carry themselves with a little more dignity than that. So naturally, Marjorie decided to double down and came back on Alex's show on Tuesday, March 8th, which is now what we will be getting into. What? What are you going to be mad at her? What is she going to lose her election? What do you got?

Nothing. No. So just to check in here, Alex on March 8th is continuing his boy. I love Putin, but I got to say that I see both sides. Oh, of course. And I'm not defending the Russian position, but I understand. How are you not? And it was well known in all the big tank tanks that doing this

would make Russia go in and Putin kept warning and kept warning. And he said two weeks ago on the eve of this, just say that you're not going to bring Ukraine into NATO and I will not invade and stop shelling the East and stop trying to infiltrate and sabotage in the South area. They're at the port. They've got the Russia annexed in. Eight years ago, because the West and Soros bragged that they overthrew Ukraine. So stop meddling around in this area that we've seized from you illegally.

Yeah. And also say that you're not going to let Ukraine into NATO, which I mean, Germany's Chancellor did say that. Yep. Prior to very specifically out loud in the attempt to keep them from invading. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like this is all just bullshit.

He's just towing the the the Putin line. I do like how it's a warning, you know, it's not if a threat. If you do these things, I will invade and murder a lot of people for fun and and tragedy. That's a warning. Definitely not a threat. So Putin's a good guy. He was just warning people.

Look out. He was just like, hey, watch out. There's a car coming and I'm driving it. And I'm going to drive through your body. Yeah. And if you step over there, I'm going to swear. I'm going to swear and hit you there. So we have some big news that is that Alex is going to go on a little breaky again.

I was scheduled and I'm still going right now to go to California next week to be on some really big podcast and interview some huge folks and do some other meetings and things. And I'm probably still going to go. I'm watching this very carefully. Things are so dangerous. World War Three kickoff. I may not go.

That's how dangerous and how bad the situation is. And just believe me, I got some interviews shut up out there that will break the Internet. It'll be as big as my Joe Rogan podcast. I mean, how could you top that? Well, use your use your use your head. There's not many ways to my guess is Russell Brand. Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah.

He seems like the only person who really fits this description of being a large platform and someone who'd be stupid enough to let Alex come on and spew his shit unchallenged. Tucker is based in New York, so it's not him. Right. I feel like most people in California wouldn't have Alex on. No, Jimmy Dore is definitely dumb enough to have Alex on. He would definitely do that.

I don't consider it entirely outside the realm of possibility that Bill Maher might be craving enough to have him on 100 real time. I believe it. I wouldn't be surprised. Oh, God, I really wouldn't be surprised. It's just so sad. But he also said break the Internet. So maybe it's like Kim Kardashian or Kanye.

If it was Kanye, that would break the Internet. I don't know if it would. What? Alex Jones and Kanye. Fuck. I would watch that and I don't pay attention to either of them anymore. Oh, that's right. I wouldn't be allowed.

I would find that surprising. Donda two is the first album that I have absolutely categorically refused to listen to part of the press tour for that album in four Wars. Yeah, exactly. Donda was so bad that I refused to listen to Donda two. That's how bad Donda was. And if you have followed my career, I have written several hundreds of thousands of words about how much I like Kanye's music.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that Russell Brand, Jimmy Dore and Bill Maher in that order of descending likelihood are the people that I would put in the in the possible. But honestly, if history is prelude, this thing's going to end up just being some weird podcast I've never heard of, right, right? I had somebody with like a ton of audience that like is so like niche that I've never I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he did Tim Dylan's podcast. Is he in LA or I don't think he is.

I think he moved to Texas. Did he move to Texas? Oh, I remember the talk of that. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't know. But yeah, if he's in LA, I could see that. I could see that. I think that would be a given.

Right, right. I mean, if you've been on Rogan with Dylan, Dylan's got to have you on his show. Yeah. And he doesn't care because he's a piece of shit. Um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I can't really think of many other possibilities. My my big money is Russell Brand.

Well, oh. Um, so yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green is on on this March 8th episode for some reasons. Right. Some of them more interesting than others. Sure. This one is only more interesting by default because the rest of it's not very interesting. When you were in studio with us a few weeks ago, you talked about this and said you introduced a bill.

You've done it today. It's breaking news right now. People can find the press release in your congressional site. But tell us about this new bill you've introduced. Well, my bill is the Congressional Voting Accountability Act. I'm very excited about it. Since I've been a member of Congress, I've spent a lot of time on the house floor calling for recorded votes.

Oh, the voice vote, the conundrum. Oh, my God. Yup. So this is absolutely going nowhere. And then Marjorie will be able to make a huge deal out of how the evil government doesn't want accountability because they wouldn't accept her bill. Essentially, this bill is a propaganda trap and she knows exactly what she's doing. This bill is categorically designed to fail because of what it entails.

The bill would require the prohibition of not only taking voice votes in the house, but also would make it so representatives could only vote yay or nay, prohibiting them from voting present. Right. It's honestly hard to tell if Marjorie really doesn't understand the basics of how Congress works or if this is really just a childish outburst of someone who doesn't get to do whatever she wants. Under the current rules, anyone can call for a roll call vote if they disagree with

the voice vote, but in order to be taken to a roll call vote, one fifth, one fifth of the quorum needs to agree to it. Marjorie likely can't drum up one fifth of the house's support for her desire to slow down every piece of legislation to a complete halt, but she still wants to get her way and this bill is an attempt to do that. Yeah, you're just not going to get 90 other people. I mean, you can probably get 70 ish people in the house, in the house, or in both the Senate and the house?

Well, in the, just the house, but also the rules for how a quorum is taken. Yeah. Sometimes you only need a hundred members to be there to make a quorum. Oh, so you get a fifth of the quorum. Yeah. Right, right, right. Not the fifth of the total. No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha.

And what is it? Like 238 of the full house is a representative quorum. Right, right, right. But, but still, like whatever it is, she doesn't have numbers. And like I said, there's no downside to this move that she's making. This bill is going to fail. And when it does, it'll be a prime opportunity to hijack everyone's attention with claims that the house is covering up their votes, which will

feed into Marjorie's attention economy and revenue streams. This is just using the government as a tool to grift. And it's kind of boring. I mean, it's literally, she must have introduced that and everybody in the house went, oh, fuck. This sucks. Why don't you try to get rid of some other metal? Stop, just stop.

Please grow up something. So in this next clip, she talks a little bit more about what her bill would do. Uh-huh. It's a very dull help people. And the reason why this bill is so important is it would stop Congress from passing bills by voice vote. That's where just there's the problem of Congress sitting on the house floor and they simply say yes and no.

Well, there's four hundred and thirty five members of Congress, Alex, and this bill would force every single member of Congress to actually have to vote and not vote by proxy, show up to work and vote in person and on record. So the American people can see our job performance. It absolutely wouldn't do any of those things. No, there's no way she could wouldn't help. But even the way the bill is written, waste, everybody because of the way

the quorums are formed, it would not require everyone to come. It's just ridiculous, just a complete, complete waste. Another thing I was thinking about, though, and I was listening to this is how much of a boner Alex has for the idea that American government grew out of the Western British tradition and, you know, yells about the Magna Carta all the time. Our tradition of voice votes in the house is a direct extension of how business was carried out in the House of Commons. And this carries over to governments in places like Canada and Australia as well.

It's a big part of our system. Yeah, Alex should be staunchly opposed to what Marjorie's suggesting, because it's a radical departure from the tradition upon which the founding fathers built this country. Here's some fun for you. Yeah. In 1801, Thomas Jefferson wrote a text called the Manual of Parliamentary Practice, which Marjorie is explicitly calling to upend.

Right. From Jefferson's manual. Quote, when the debate is ended, the speaker holding the bill in his hand puts the question for its passage by saying, gentlemen, all of you who are of the opinion that this bill shall pass say, I, and after the answer of eyes, all of those the contrary opinions say no. The affirmative and negative of the question, having been both put and answered, the speaker declares whether the yeas or nays have it by the sound.

If he be himself satisfied and it stands as the judgment of the house. But if he be not himself satisfied, which voices the greater, or if before any other member comes in the house or before any new motion made, any member shall arise and declare himself dissatisfied with the speaker's decision. If Alex had any understanding of the founding fathers he pretends he studied and idolizes, he would probably kick Marjorie Taylor Green out of the studio for daring to propose a bill that spits in the face of Thomas Jefferson's rules for how the house conducts business.

They have no idea. They don't care. No, of course not. It doesn't mean anything. And I mean, it is one of those fun things where it's like, listen, those assholes wrote that shit 300 years ago. Everybody knows this is not tenable for the modern world. Even these dumb, dumb, right?

Because they don't care. Right. But as long as you're citing Jefferson all the goddamn time, guess what? He wrote that too. Yeah, Dick. Yeah, douchebag. Yeah, you're you're actively promoting and endorsing somebody who wants to undo the Jeffersonian model of how the voice votes are taken in the in the

house and it's a disgrace to the tradition of America. I will say back to I'll be on that one. That one is hard to put on a meme. So I mean, as far as Thomas Jefferson quotes, that one doesn't go down in history quite as well. I will tell you that reading that kind of language is not my strong suit. There's words and places they don't belong. Oh, my God.

Anyway, knowing this, yes, that not only does voice voting go back to the literal beginning of the House of Representatives, it also predates the American government. Right. Um, this is pretty funny. Most people when they hear the fact that they are voting with other being a record in many cases, can't believe that. I mean, that is just amazing.

Do we know how long they've been pulling this trick? They've been doing it for decades and decades and decades and decades. Uh, pull at this trick. What are you what are you guys doing? What are we doing here? What do we just put a camera just showing their ignorance entirely? And, and lack of interest in how the government operates. This is, this is borderline.

This reminds me more of like those reaction videos where they give six year olds like a super Nintendo and they're like, what is this? Is this a phone? Did they use this in the olden days? And you're like, yes, I get it. I'm old. I'm fine with this. This is great.

This is them being like, I don't understand. What is this government you speak of? Right. Or like you're in Horizon for Midwest. Find something. They have a watch and it's called a, yeah, or whatever the fuck. Yeah. Shiny, shiny gold eye or whatever.

Right. Right. Yeah. So, um, we get back to now the transphobic, uh, content. And so just another warning, it's about to dive back into that for a little bit. Can't not, um, because there have been these articles written about Marjorie's comments on Alex's show. And so part of her coming on is to announce this stupid bill that's going

nowhere, uh, and is an affront to Thomas Jefferson's legacy. Naturally. Um, but the other part of it is to deal with the criticism that is being levied against her. Right. And boy, we need to build a man of straw, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, more or less. I mean, it's just about creating a fake version of her comments.

I know you can only do 10 minutes with us today, but then a vote got pushed back and you could go a little bit the next hour, but we're only to keep you five minutes to the next hour. Cause I want you to be able to respond to the lies and we're live right now, but later I'm going to take what you actually said in studio two weeks ago, uh, and then put it on the front so we can have a video to get out there to counter the fraud, but, but just to start to give the preface of what happened. We were talking about men and girl showers, biological men in front of

little girls and some of these men, it was in the news have assaulted women and are being given light prison sentences and men are getting women pregnant in prison and raping them. And you said my husband would beat them into the ground. Who doesn't agree that if a woman rapes a woman or a man rapes a woman or a little girl that they need to have their head beaten in, you didn't say beat up RuPaul on, you know, their TV show, you didn't say beat up, you know, some, some transgender person walking down the street.

This isn't true. Although Alex was in a deep hole of mostly fake stories that he uses to push intense hatred of trans people to his audience. Like before Marjorie's comments, Marjorie wasn't responding to any of that stuff with her comments that led to violent talk. Here's where things get a little bit complicated. She was responding to a fake version of that story about Camp Pali when she said that her husband would beat somebody up.

But ultimately the only thing that triggered that response in her was that a non-binary person worked somewhere where kids were present. The fact of this non-binary person's existence in that space is enough for her to experience as an attack or violation on a child. So that's how they talk about it. And that leads to them fantasizing about committing violence. But here's the tell that they know what they're doing. In order to make their violent rhetoric seem defensible to their audience,

they have to pretend that stories like the one from that camp are about grown men sleeping or showering with fifth grade girls, because if they actually express their real grievance, it would be way too obvious that they were full of hate and bigotry. Yeah. They don't come to their audience and say that they're mad that trans or non-binary people are allowed to have jobs in places where kids might be. Because in reality, what they're saying is that they don't think that children

should have any exposure to trans or non-binary people, which ultimately leads to the real point that they're pushing, which is that trans and non-binary people shouldn't be allowed to exist in public. Yep. It's really clear how this goes, because think about it. Ultimately, what this story they're responding to is about is about a couple of parents who were uncomfortable that their kids came back from camp and said that they met a counselor who was non-binary.

There was no crime committed. There was no problem. It was just fifth graders meeting a non-binary person. If this is enough to merit the reaction that Alex and Marjorie are having, then where would they draw the line? Like, could trans or non-binary people work in retail? Could they work in a library? Could they be teachers?

You can easily see how much a society Alex and Marjorie wish to exclude people from under the pretend justification of protecting children or whatever. But here are two things that they would never do. They would never discuss the underlying stories as they really happened, because if they did, it would become way too clear that they're overreacting. And they would never be honest about what they want, because if they did, their bigotry would be way too clear. They only respond with grotesque bullshit and anger, because that's the feeling

they want their audience to experience and adopt towards trans and non-binary people. Anger and a prejudice of fear that they pose a threat to children by their existence in public. That's what they're pushing. Emotions notorious for keeping you from reading another story immediately after being so angry. Nobody's like, Oh, I'm so furious. I better look into this and make sure that they're accurate.

Right. It's a dead end for curiosity. Yep. So this just happens repeatedly, just creating fake versions of her comments in order to justify things. You were very clear that when men poses women and sexually assault women and little girls, they need to be punished. Yes, I was clear about that. And I'll you know, I talked with my husband about it, so it's easy for me to double down. If there's a grown man, an adult biological man, dressing as a woman to be able

to go into bathrooms, dorm rooms, going into women's private places, showers and so forth. And we were talking about a camp. We were talking about a children's camp. And I believe this was adult biological men, camp counselors who identify as women were staying in fifth grade girls bathrooms or dorm or camp. Yes, yes, camp houses with with fifth graders. That's not what she said. And you can see even from this rewriting of her position, how

indefensible her comments were. Marjorie is trying to rationalize her approval of violence by lying about the circumstances of the story from that camp. If there was a camp counselor, regardless of gender, showering with the kids and it makes a bit more sense to be incensed. But that's a fabrication that's just from her bigotry and the bigotry of the right wing media that she consumes. Yeah, she's pushing a fake version of a real situation in order to

justify her reaction of endorsing violence. And that's an essential element of this that she steadfastly refuses to accept because she knows that she doesn't want an accurate image of this to be seen, that she's endorsing violence against trans and non-binary people who work anywhere that might involve children. That's the position that she's actually expressing. Yeah, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but this is just disgusting behavior to see from someone who's in elected office.

No, she is she is. Look, I mean, it is it is easy to be like, oh, it's it's an exaggeration or it's a overblown or or whatever. But the ultimate desire here is if not complete eradication, then segregation. It is going right back and it's the same thing with everything. It's going right back to, OK, trans kids cannot be in school with cisgender kids, trans kids cannot drink at the same fucking water fountains. Like that is not an exaggeration.

That is the desire. That is what they want. Whether or not they're willing to do all the shit I think it would manifest slightly differently. Well, I mean, it would manifest differently. It's not the same thing. Yes. And you can tell from context clues that what is like they're expressing is essentially a desire to criminalize parents of

LGBTQ non-binary children. And so it would be it would involve arresting their parents. Yes. Yeah. Re-education, probably sending them to camps. The things that that would be just terrible for Alex to support. It's it seems it seems like that's more in the the line. And then like direct repression. Like, yeah, yeah, trying to create societal situations

where it would be just harsh penalties for not living the way that someone like Marjorie would approve of people to live. Yeah, they just want to torture people. Yeah. So again, they're trying to pretend they're setting the record straight, but they're not. And the media misrepresented and said that she wants trans people to be physically attacked. But she never said that.

That's the corporate media Newsweek. You name it, hundreds of publications misrepresented what she said. So she's here to be able to set the record straight Congresswoman. Thank you, Alex. I'd love to set the record straight. Well, as as usual, the corporate media lies. They always put the lies on the headline and then maybe the truth in the last paragraph of their article.

The truth is that biological men are assaulting or attacking anyone under the age of 18, especially children. Yes, they deserve to be beat up. And there's nothing wrong with saying that corporate media and the radical leftists are completely detached from how parents feel and how the rest of America feels. They not only do they deserve to be beat up, they deserve to be arrested. They deserve to be charged and they deserve to go to prison.

This isn't setting the record straight. It's lying. If Marjorie's position was just that people who assault children should be arrested or even if she understands that a person like a parent's instinct would be to respond violently if their child was assaulted, that's fairly uncontroversial. And no one would really have wasted ink writing about her comments. Not a word.

The problem and the issue that Marjorie and Alex will not disaggregate from their bullshit is that she and Alex believe that trans and non-binary people existing in public is in and of itself an assault on children. They won't make this position that they hold clear because they know that to do so would mean some real problems, particularly for Marjorie, since she still has a lot to lose with the fundraising and stuff that being in the house gives her access to.

She's not relevant outside of being a lunatic who's in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then she has that to lose. And if she doesn't have that, then she's got nothing. She could maybe get a show on Info Wars, but this is a sinking ship. Yeah. When Marjorie said what she said, she was responding to a story that had nothing to do with violence or children being assaulted.

She imagined that that was the case because of her underlying bigotries that equates trans and non-binary existence to a threat. This is an essential question when it comes to assessing her comments, which is why it will never come up on Info Wars. The lying and spinning masquerading as correcting the record will continue just so the charade can continue. And it's it's pretty repulsive. Yeah, yeah.

A lot of this is really you just want to boil it down to be like, listen, do you want to improve things or do you do or do you want to do things that satisfy you emotionally, I guess, you know, like it's very satisfying. Emotionally to be angry. Hey, buddy, you're not going to get a straight answer to that. Yeah, well, ain't that the truth? Yeah, I think that. Hey, what if satisfying myself emotionally is what I call making things better?

I see, but it's not. It's not. What if you did make things better and it didn't satisfy you emotionally? Would that be preferable? And the answer is no. Not for them. Not for them. So anyway, we have one last clip here. And again, it's just Marjorie trying to pretend that there's a justification

for what she said. Now, biological men are trying to act like their women as camp counselors, going into showers with fifth graders or sleeping in their cabins with other little girls or boys. That is completely wrong. And it's OK for me to say that they might they might need a, you know, a lesson. There's nothing wrong with that. And I'll double down and I'll say it again.

It's not about hating trans people or anyone. It's about hating children being targeted sexually. Undoubtedly, it's not. That story isn't like that's not an element of this story. No, if if if it were, I think her comments would still be wildly inappropriate and unbecoming of somebody who's an elected office. But she's just lying in order to soften what she's saying or make it more defensible, and it is not.

It is not her commentary is not defensible. It's it's a disgrace. And I don't know. I don't know what to say, really, outside of. It's nuts that she's coming on in for wars a bit. I mean, even Trump only showed up once. Right. Right. Right. And again, it was mostly to show his book.

Yeah. But she's coming on. And there is a part of me that's keenly aware that a midterm is coming up. And it might just be something where it's like, ah, maybe I'll be able to get some voters out of this. But it's it's a bit more of a connection. Then then it appeared previously. And the way it's manifesting is predictable and also troubling. It's predictable in the sense that she's trying to sell these stupid

right wing publicity stunt bills share to his audience to get everyone excited and create these narratives around the house is hiding everything they do behind voice votes or whatever the fuck. You know, there's that that's standard. That's what you expect from an informed person. But there isn't there is a level of the transphobic rhetoric that is being deployed by her and Alex in conjunction with her that is further than some of the some of the stuff that maybe happens

on a more regular basis. Yeah. And that's that's not good. Yeah. That's bad. I mean, even if the story was exactly what she characterized it as, even if she was one hundred percent getting the story itself right, it is still not about biological men causing harm to women or children. Well, it's about one person who is committed a crime. But but but again, most importantly, it's not about men. It's not about men. Period.

It is about trans people and it is not. So whenever she says, biological man, non binary person, exactly. It's not even just anybody outside of the fucking norm or whatever. And he's anybody outside of the binary, but what she considers. But again, it is still not about men. There is plenty of violence that men do against women that she is one hundred percent fine with. It is not about violence against women or children.

Oh, she went on tour with my bigotry. Yeah, it is entirely. Well, yeah, she went on tour with a yeah. So I mean, I so that's a lie. Yeah, even her characterization of everything is a fucking lie. Yeah. So I don't know. I have a tough time putting any kind of summation on this other than to say,

like, I find this deeply troubling. And I think it's something that, you know, deserves to have, you know, and I cast upon it. You know, I don't think it's something that should be overlooked, obviously. I think it's a bad enough thing when a sitting person in Congress who's not named Ron Paul shows up on Alex's show. I think that's a problem. And then when the content is like this, it's just

you know, and then it's also a person who spoke at Fuentes is bullshit. Yeah. Like it's it's yeah. Yeah. I mean, the summation is like. Care for and protect trans people. Sure. Do as much of that as you can. Well, I mean, just making them on a functional level. Just making them happy. Happy trans people is a fucking terrorizing thing to the to the right.

Don't don't use violence. Help people. Yeah, I think I think that that obviously is the most important thing that people can do. And then like be like, I don't know. Vote for Jennifer Strahan, the G.O.P. primary in Georgia. Find some way to stop these people. I think that Marjorie Taylor Green is somebody who getting outraged at her feeds. Yeah, that's not going to do her any good.

No, of and you can see how this writing about her in her comments leads to her being able to do a victory lap on Alex's show and double down on stuff and create a larger false presentation of what she was saying. Yep. And she's vulnerable in the G.O.P. primary. There have been polls that have shown that there is a possibility that someone could beat her in that primary. Right. And hey, I feel like it's it's entirely possible. She has no place to be in government. Absolutely not.

If not only for her incredibly horrible positions, then also for her clear lack of understanding of literally anything about civics and that she's a corrupt corrupt politician. Well, that's kind of that's part of the course. Right. For sure. Anyway, Jordan will be back with another episode. Maybe talk more about Russia or maybe we'll cover Alex's appearance on real time. We'll see. We'll see. It could be. But until then, we have a website. We do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We also are on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's add knowledge underscore fight and not go to bed.

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