Knowledge Fight - #661: March 17, 2022

Episode Date: March 21, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan celebrate Alex's return from his little breaky. In this installment, Harrison Smith loves St. Patrick's Day, Alex falls victim to weaponized weed, and many pro-Putin talking points fly freely. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, just time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Ride. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're going to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Dan Jordan. Jordan. Dan quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan is I you go first. Okay. My spot today is actually I successfully finished Forbidden West. Wow. I've done it. Wow. Yeah, I'm very proud

of myself. Congratulations. I realized way too late that the end game was a lot closer than I thought. Huh? Because I had done so much other stuff. I was roughly level all of them. You can't go higher than 50. Sure. And so then I barreled towards the end of the game so fast. It was it's one of those things that I do that's very annoying is I get so distracted for the first 85% right by all the side missions. Totally. Yeah. And then the last 5% is a formality, a formality dance. Yeah. I have put the game to the side for a little bit to so it can retain some of its wonder. Sure. I realized that I was kind of getting to a point where I was a little burned out because I was doing exactly what

you did with the side quests and stuff. And yeah, so I'll get back to it. But congratulations on finishing it up. If you haven't, if you haven't gotten to a certain place, I won't spoil it. I have probably maybe not. I don't know. Can you fly? But in a manner? I don't know. Well, my friend, you get to fly in the late game. Well, there's a spoiler. I know. Well, great. See spoilers. We broke our own rule. Yeah. My bright spot is going to be unsatisfying in many ways. But I have some content for the podcast that I'm working on that I'm pretty excited about. Oh, so I have a bright spot of little, little things, little teaser that I might be. Yeah. So there you go. Veg teaser is your bright spot. Yeah.

So Jordan, today we are enjoying Alex Jones coming back from his vacation. Oh, is he took a little break? Is he better today? Well, I mean, we haven't played the drop yet. Oh, that's a good point. I can't. I can't reveal that. Yeah. No, but this is March 17th, 2022. St. Patrick's Day, baby. Alex is back. Oh, right. We have not missed him that much, but his presence has a bit. Absence of his presence has been felt. Yes. And as much as the dorks have been running that house and daddy's got to come in and be angry about stuff. I assume metaphorically, as he comes back, he will be removing all of the snakes from the info war's office. Some of them might just get laid off. Some of the snakes just, you know,

might, it might be payroll issues with the snakes. That's what people forget about. St. Patrick, you just got rid of some of the snakes and they were like, Oh, come on, man, you're downsizing. Oh, I better go slither around with Glenn Beck. It better go to the blaze. Yes. They're very welcoming. Oh, so we'll get down to business on this episode here, Jordan, but let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. So first demon whiskey, Nick, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. I listened to six hours worth of Dan and Jordan across two podcasts on March 4th. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Behind the bastards related. I would

imagine so. Next. Fuck. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy one. Love it. Straightforward to the point. Happy. Good work. Fuck. Next. No little breakie for the wicked. Thank you so much. You're now a policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. Dead man and dead man in the message sent said, Hey, play Elden ring you cowards or something like that. And I wanted to say I did try. Yeah. Not for me. Okay. But you are now a policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix, Jordan. So first I introduced my brother to knowledge fight and all he gets is this lousy shout out. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Lindy the best spouse mouse. Thank you so much. You are now a

technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just going to take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners

yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not. Oh shit. Yep. Sorry. I had to wait. I was guessing. Not having a great day. Fair enough. Having a pretty bad day. Oh, of course. He's broke. He's pissed off. Yep. So here's an out of context drop before we get into this episode. Okay. No, I'm not trying to pile on the U.S. government because it's obviously though, like an out of control corrupt anti-American force, but okay. Well, listen, nobody wants you to pile on the U.S. after that point. No, of course. Once you once we already have established that it is a corrupt anti-American force, the American government, then I don't need to pile on. You don't need to beat a dead horse. Certainly not. Yeah. So

Alex is not there when the show starts. This is becoming a little bit of the normal thing where the show starts. And Harrison Smith is explaining that Alex will be there eventually. I'm Harrison Smith sitting in momentarily for Alex Jones. He is in the building. He's taking care of some legal stuff right now, but he will be taking over just as soon as possible. But for now, let me give you a little, a little outlook as to how close we are to nuclear annihilation. God, he sucks at this. How close to the precipice we are before taking that plunge off the cliff that will destroy all of humanity. It's not looking good, folks. Before I do that, let me tell you Happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody. Hope you're all doing well. Hope you're wearing green. If not,

I hope you get pinched. Okay. Now's the time for celebrating the glorious work of one of the most powerful evangelists that Christianity ever saw. And it's worth taking a quick moment to tell you the story of St. Patrick. That's a real strange path of thoughts for Harrison to begin to share with. Okay, we're all going to die. But first let's look. Enjoy the silver lunch. Have a green beer. Have a green beer. So I don't know if I would call St. Patrick one of the most powerful evangelists in the history of the Christian church. If you're talking about who's like at the top of that list without a doubt, it's Paul. No doubt. About half of the New Testament is attributed to him, and he was critically important in terms of establishing the earliest churches and places

like Ephesus and Corinth and his letters to these churches that appear in the Bible. His books in the Bible, they establish a lot of church doctrine. Totally. Outside of Jesus, it's not really fair to compare anyone to Paul in terms of their importance in the spread of Christianity. So, you know, looking down a little bit further on the ladder, there are some major figures in terms of early evangelism. Naturally. You could make an argument that people like Constantine did wonders for the spread of Christianity since he converted in 312 CE while the Emperor of Rome, and that led to the Edict of Milan in 313 that codified into law religious tolerance for Christianity, which by effect massively spread the religion.

Well, if you're not going to be murdered for it, it's a lot easier to be a part of it. Sure. And then there's the conquesting emperors who spread the language across the ancient world, you know, like Alexander the Great spreading Greek, all kinds of distant lands allowed for the transmission of information among cultures that certainly somebody who, well, not necessarily, you would say, an evangelist had a dramatic effect. Right. Now, what one could argue, though, is that the most influential members of the church are the ones with the highest body count. So then you have to rejigger the whole thing now, don't you? I mean, Paul's got, like, six max. You don't know what Paul was up to. I don't know what Paul was up to before. That's

true. He had some issues. He's a loan shark. We need a gritty Paul video game. Maybe you're done with Horizon. Yeah, we'll call it Road to Damascus. Something along those lines. So I don't think that anyone would argue that St. Patrick is one of the most powerful evangelists in the history of Christianity. At best, you could claim that he founded the Christian Church in Ireland, but even that claim is far from solid. There's a lot of uncertainty about the historical record as it relates to Patrick, and many believe that a lot of the claims made about his relevance in the Irish Church are conflated with Palladius, the first bishop of the Catholic Church who was sent to Ireland. The point here is that the claim that Harrison is making is absurd, but I'm excited to

see how he backs this up. I'm a little interested. Also, I think a lot of people in Ireland looking back on it would say that the introduction of the Christian religion to Ireland might have wound up going wrong later on. Maybe there's some issues with implementation. Maybe it could have been done better. Well, let's let Harrison take the wheel and see what he's got. Yeah, worth taking a quick moment to tell you the story of St. Patrick, because it's a great source of inspiration for what we're doing here in the Info War. St. Patrick was from Britain. He was a part of a Romanized British family. His father was a deacon in the Church, but as a young man, he was captured and taken to Ireland, which was at the time completely pagan, where he was kept as a slave,

and he was abused as a slave, and he lived a life as a slave until he got a vision from God that told him, your boat's here. Your ride is waiting. It's time for you to escape. In trusting his vision, he went to the coast and found a ship waiting there. It took him to England, where again his troubles were not over. He was captured multiple times. He eventually made it back to his family, and now think about this. Put yourself in the mindset of a freed slave who's escaped bondage in Ireland, has escaped the pagans. You've made it out. You live a comfortable life with your family now. What would compel somebody to give up that life, go back into the land where he was enslaved, not to extract retribution, not to enact some revenge fantasy on the people who abused him,

but to gift those people with the truth, to tell them the gospel, to convert them to Christianity, to perform miracles for them, and to better their life? Well, St. Patrick's was that man. But really, really trying to be like talking about yourself here. I mean, well, I find it very interesting that we can definitely identify with former white slaves who come back to the land that they were enslaved in, and then kicked out of, in order to do good. You know, I mean, Reconstructionary of South wasn't about black people just fucking straight up murdering anybody. No, no, but no, it's fine. It's fine. It isn't interesting. But a lot of that story that Harrison is telling is true, which is a strange thing on info wars,

because usually people bring people, I mean, Alex, bring things up, and he has no idea what he's talking about. But at least according to whatever sources we do have available, a lot of that story of St. Patrick is like, that's the record, but you can decide for yourself how reliable any of those sources are. St. Patrick was said to have been captured by pagans and taken to Ireland and escaped and then eventually decided to become a missionary. Also, Patrick supposedly had another vision that called him to come back to Ireland. So that's why he did it, as opposed to just being like, hey, I think I'm going to go back and be a missionary. I'm such a good dude. He had another vision. So whoever's giving these visions is a little wishy washy about where he

should be. Go get on that boat. Go back to Ireland. No, you change plans. It happens. I understand. I've been there. So one problem is that Patrick didn't perform miracles and actually isn't formally a saint. He's never been canonized. And the whole thing about running the snakes off, that's not true. That's nonsense. Of course. None of this matters, though, because info isn't everyone associated with it believes in lore as reality. So if there's compelling folk tales about someone, that might as well be religious doctrine. Absolutely. Now, there's one important caveat, though, and that is that the Eastern Orthodox Church does venerate Patrick as a saint in equal standing with the apostles. But I really don't think that it info wars is an Eastern Orthodox

operation. Alex espouses some theological beliefs that are at odds with that tradition. So it just seems hard to believe that that would be their Eastern Orthodox Paul Bunyan is also venerated alongside the saints in info wars. So it's like American lore is fine, too. True. Put it all in the check. Colonel Travis. Absolutely. Yeah. So I will say this with a fair amount of certainty. You're not going to find anybody who takes the study of religion like just religious studies seriously that would say Saint Patrick is a major evangelical figure. Yeah, it's just it's not part of real religious. How many other of them have their own holiday that is entirely about their real life and events that happened 100 percent to them? It's a bizarre notion for

Harrison to be spreading. But what's fun about this is it's just a way for Harrison to use this story, Ben St. Patrick, to really talk about himself and Alex. They are like Saint Patrick in that they've seen the horrors of Ireland, the globalists metaphorically, and though they could have a nice life elsewhere, they return and selflessly try to free people still in bondage. Right. It's nonsense. But I'm sure it feels better than dealing with the reality that you work for a malicious narcissist liar whose only real impact on the world is increasing the suffering of vulnerable people, which is not like the story of St. Patrick. Actually, in many ways, it is like the story of St. Patrick. You bring religion to Ireland and then it fights for the next thousand

goddamn years. I don't know. I don't want to bring bullshit to America. Then there's a civil yeah. No, it all makes perfect sense. So Harrison's got to talk continuously about St. Patrick. Of course. Well, St. Patrick's was that man and his writings have had unbelievable positive effects the world over. And he almost singlehandedly converted the entire country of Ireland to Christianity. That's an info warrior vote. That's that's a single man with nothing but the words that he uses and the truth that he's expressing changing the destiny of an entire nation and in a way the entire world. It's a man who is freed from bondage and yet doesn't hate those who enslaved him. But did help to bring about the abolition of that entire

institution in that country? So this is very not true. St. Patrick absolutely did not convert all or even most of Ireland. For one thing, Christianity in Ireland predated his arrival and the historical record is full of a bunch of other influences who likely had much larger effects on the history of the early church there. There were people who created a lot of like really isolated monasteries and like because of their isolations, many of them were able to survive much better in trying times like the dark ages and such. And that that became something that was heavily influential in the development of the church in Ireland. Yeah, absolutely. Once again, several kings had a pretty high body count. Look, to quote myself, be that as it may. I'm sorry. I'm just

saying. Oh, you got an extra grind here. I understand. Look, the point for me is that these guys have such a like a focus on the individual strong man theory of history. Absolutely. Just like it has to be one person who's also an info warrior. Oh, of course. Basically the model of an info warrior that you alone are able to change everything. And you know, sure, some people are like through through circumstance and hard work and luck. Some people are able to make an outsized impact in the world, but that's not necessarily how everything works. Wow. I mean, you know, it is it is the interplay of seven billion different things all happening simultaneously that even if you are the person with the luck to actually that's why I'm saying circumstance. Yeah,

exactly. There's like a million different things. Yeah. Um, so anyway, uh, say, say, say Patrick. Yeah. Yeah. There's someone else in the church, though, who's not so great. Bruce Willis, the Pope. Oh, and somebody needs to point this stuff out. Somebody needs to celebrate what the church is supposed to be teaching because I'll tell you somebody who's not doing that. Little man named Pope Francis. The story can be found at info wars.com. Pope Francis warns final catastrophe could extinguish human race. I suggest Pope Francis ask himself a question. Is that what the Bible says? That's not really what the Bible says. Is it? No, the Bible actually promised us, uh, to avoid at this type of fate. What is wrong with you? About putting forward Christianity as he is about

putting forward the great reset new world order control paradigm that he seems so eager to participate in. Pope Francis warns of the escalation of the conflict in Ukraine could lead to a final catastrophe that would extinguish the human race. Speaking during his weekly address, the Pope said humanity would have to start from scratch in the event of a thermonuclear war, saying quote, our imagination appears increasingly concentrated on the representation of a final catastrophe that will extinguish us. And whether it's climate change or the death of democracy or the conflict in Ukraine, everything in the mainstream media has to be portrayed as an existential crisis because it's not about presenting you with the facts and the truth of the situation so you can come to an informed

decision into how you want your political representatives to behave and face the challenges that we're up against. They have to force you into an emotional do or die. This is it. The walls are crumbling down panic mode so you override your logic center and you're willing to do things and willing to allow things that you would never be willing to do or allow in a more stable state of mind. So of course everything has to be a total catastrophe. That clip is wild. Wow. So that starts with Harrison being upset that the Pope isn't playing into his end time fantasies. And then I guess that Harrison is mad that the Pope is saying that the war in Ukraine could escalate to a situation where the continuity of our modern civilization is at risk. Right. But isn't that

what Alex has been saying for weeks? Yeah, every day. Harrison literally started the show talking about how we're facing nuclear annihilation before getting distracted with his St. Patrick riff. So you see, when the Pope says that the times are tense and cooler heads should prevail, that's an unchristian attempt to keep everyone in the great reset new world order fear paradigm. But when Alex and Harrison say that we're one inch away from nuclear annihilation, well, that's just them being super cool, more Christian than the Pope and absolutely not trying to keep the audience in a state of crippling fear. This makes sense. Yeah. It's clips like this that just make it too clear that these guys know what they're doing. They're able to very accurately describe

what their entire business model is when they're accusing the Pope of doing it. So they're fully aware that constantly bombarding people with panic, do or die, the world is ending type messages have the effect of overriding people's critical thinking, or at least it can. Yep. Harrison's boring as shit. But also he makes it too clear that there's an intellectual understanding within info wars that what they're doing is manipulative and abusive. If you're doing the info wars game, you're supposed to not be aware of that psychology at all. Or at very least, don't talk about it. This dude is a fucking liability for Alex. And I would fire his ass immediately if I were Alex. I mean, this is not good. You can't be talking like this. Yeah. And and here's the thing. You

he's not going to sell it for you, man. I don't hear I don't hear Alex in this. I don't hear somebody trying to be Alex in this. I hear a child that needs to be like put in a timeout like, Hey, you need to stop this. Go sit in the corner. Like that's what I'm hearing. Not a man. Well, one of the things that I think is kind of interesting is that, you know, Owen is more or less doing an Alex impression. And I think he wants to largely become like Alex or like Alex. Right. Harrison has his own thing, which is obviously, like I've said, boring. But I think it's also a lot more crypto neo Nazi than he lets on perhaps as much more of a close association with people like Nick Fuentes and the Gropers and I was just thinking that he is like a much more

subdued, less bombastic Nick Fuentes in terms of like he's not willing to push it. He's not willing to push those those boundaries. Yeah. Yeah. And I think he does a little bit on his own show, but no one's listening. Speak freely. Absolutely. You've got 123 views though. You'll be fine. Oh yeah. People are knocking down your door to syndicate the American journal on their radio stations. I'm sure. Oh no. So look, dude, half an hour goes by and welcome back folks. This is the Alex Jones show. I'm Harrison Smith sitting in for Alex Jones who will be joining us momentarily. We'll be joining you. I'll be with you sitting and watching Alex Jones in just a few minutes. No need to worry about that. I'm worried. Yeah. Like I feel like there's

too much of an awareness that this is a bad outcome for listeners. Like he has to reassure people like I promise Alex is coming. I am almost out of your lives for good again. Yeah. Yeah. If people wanted to listen to me, they could choose to listen to my show and they don't know. Alex is coming. Don't worry. Yeah. So 47 minutes in Alex. Alex shows up. Ladies and gentlemen, we are playing the game right now. We are caught in the job. Easy to come. The end of civilization, perhaps all life on earth like the Pope said, you know it. Alex Jones here back in the cockpit today. It's so weird that Harrison is right there in the studio and he's not like offended by his boss, Alex Jones, saying that we're playing a game that might result in the end of life on earth.

When the Pope said something like that, he was contradicting the Bible and trying to keep people in the great reset New World Order fear state. So you'd think that Harrison would have some harsh words for Alex. So, so weird that he doesn't barge into the studio and hold Alex's feet to the fire about how he could possibly believe that life on earth, it could be the end of life on earth and they could even be possible because the Bible says that's not going to happen. Right. Almost like he was just pretending to be mad at the Pope about that and what he's actually mad at the Pope about is that he's not enough of a bigot and he cares about climate change. I can't imagine listening to the first half hour to an hour of this show and not thinking these guys are complete jokes.

Like this is so internally contradictory. It hurts. It really hurts. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't think that they are doing a very good job. No, but that's what happens when you throw Harrison into the mix. Bad work happens. Stick with this. Stick with St. Patrick. You're better off there. Don't go to the Pope. You don't have anything on the Pope. Now I need to talk to y'all about the most important relic of the early church, the Blarney Stone. Okay, Harrison. Somebody told me they peed on it after I kissed it one time when I was in Ireland. So, Alex, that's more interesting. Alex didn't go to Ireland for his trip, his little break. It would have been nice. He went to California. Great country. I was out in California for three days

and it was the most over-the-top trip I've ever been on. Before that, it was in California, the Bohemian Grove that I infiltrated and got the footage of with Mike Hansen 22 years ago. That was the strangest thing I ever did. This trip topped it all and a lot of it I'm out of liberty to get into or talk about. Very interesting. And then the rest of it, we will break very, very soon. In fact, I might even just start breaking it today because it's going to be breaking it at any time. A lot of big stuff. A lot of big stuff happened. It was wild and definitely Hotel California. This sounds like how a loser describes their boring ass vacation. Oh my God, best vacation ever. So much stuff happened, but it's too wild. I can't

even get into it. It's so crazy. There's like an eyes wide shut thing going on. But I'm not going to, I can't tell you all about it. There are too many important people there and too many masks to cool. As best as I can tell, he was on that full send podcast that Trump had been on. And I guess he interviewed Mike Tyson, but beyond that, I don't believe that he did shit until I see it. I'm also not impressed by landing an interview with Mike Tyson in 2022. I don't know if that's like, I don't know if people are banging down his door for an interview. Like obviously not great. If you would have gotten an interview with him in 1995, like when he got out of prison after he raped that lady, that would have at least been like

people were trying to talk to him and he would have been turning down some media appearances. This is just like, yeah, you have an audience. Mike Tyson will talk to you. You know, what's crazy is that I know the pathway that he got to Mike Tyson with. And that's frustrating for me because I know that Tom Segura and Mike Tyson are fairly good friends. So I'm assuming that it went Alex to Joe to Tom, to Mike Tyson. I imagine that might even be a shorter road than that. That's possible because there, I mean, Alex does have a bunch of like because of Joe, a bunch of associations in the MMA and like fighting worlds. That's true. And so it's, it's, it's possible. Yeah. I don't know. I'm, I'm not impressed. I don't care.

I'll wait and see what Alex produces. But if that's what he was out there to do so far, and that's what we know about. He was on that one podcast and he talked to Mike Tyson. I'm not imagining this is going to top his whole sneaking into Bohemian Grove thing, you know, the thing that launched his fucking career. I mean, Mike Tyson also has an adult swim cartoon, right? So yeah, it's like Mike Tyson's, it's like a Scooby-Doo starring Mike Tyson. I imagine if like Mike Tyson, being the star of it, hasn't lost sponsors. If I'm talking to Alex, probably isn't going to lose some sponsors. No, it really, it really does it.

Yeah, man. I am, I don't, I'm not, I'm not convinced his trip was as amazing as, as he, as he thinks. He's going to talk a little bit more about this as the show goes on, but he goes to break and he comes back. This is so dumb. Hey, let's just sit back and listen to some of this music. So for what it's worth, Ramstein is a pretty left leaning band, politically speaking. Oh yeah. Alex would think that they were demonic pedophiles if they were an American band. This song is called Engel and Alex is only saying that it's poetry because it's in German and he knows that the audience is just not along and think that he's deep. In reality, it is fairly

poetic, but it's a deeply anti-religious song about how the lead singer doesn't want to be an angel and how the idea that if you're good in this life, you get to be an angel, that's bullshit. Alex would hate just about everything about Ramstein from their politics to their support of the LGBTQ community, but their music sounds angry and Alex likes to yell. So he connects with that and he pretends that it's profound. It's about how you feel. Alex should hate that song. I mean, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like of their songs that are like singles that have come out, that probably is the one that he should hate the most. Sure, but I mean at least do host is kind of like it's vague enough. It's not explicitly anti-religious. You can fake your

way through that. You hate me. Yeah, you get it. Or you have me depending on the American version as you hate me. Yeah. Anyways, but you don't have a choice to care in conservative worlds because conservatives make all the worst media. They make all the worst music. They make all the worst movies. They make all the worst stuff. There's probably some good like outlaw country types who are conservative. Yeah, totally. But you gotta assume that some of that's pretty good music. I'm not saying that. Look, it may be the exception that proves the rule. The point is if all you've got is the best Christian music you've got, you're not going to be as happy as the rest of us. That's probably true. So you don't really have much choice to care. You can't be like, oh, there's

so you got to listen to like only music in other languages so you can pretend. Exactly. So you can pick it up. Yeah. Deeply Patriot message. That makes perfect sense. Sure. Yep. So Alex gets to complaining about Joe Biden. He's got dementia. Uh-huh. He's on meth. Wait, which one? Joe. I mean, which Biden? Joe Biden. Well, I mean, yeah, but which one? We know that Joe Biden's dead. No, no, no, no, no. That's that's in Project Camelot. There's still just one Joe Biden according to Infowars. Jim Carrey. And how the establishment can continue to stick him in front of cameras, not knowing what's about to come out. I mean, if you thought corn pop and the blonde hair standing up and the black kids are like roaches, he said that not me. If you sit there

and think that's crazy, well, you don't know people with dementia. So he's somebody with dementia that they give methamphetamine to. His pupils are just jacked out. And they give him bags of blood. He had no what planet he's on. And let me tell you what's screwing up society and civilization. It really is drugs at the end of the day. Okay. I was out in California for one of the biggest podcasts out there. And I was hanging around with a very interesting famous person. And because I'm literally like an anthropologist, people ask what I got asked in my hearings five years ago. How often you smoke marijuana? We hear you're a big drug addict. I say about once a year, like a cultural thing, like a peace pipe, but it's so strong. I don't

like it. Soros is funded, you know, in other groups making it weaponized. And they laughed at that. They're not laughing now. I'm still laughing. I'm very much laughing. Yeah. I'll take from this that Alex is referring to hanging out with Mike Tyson and going to do that full sun podcast. And I guess he got high while he was out there and it was pretty strong, which is obviously the Soros attack. The story of his vacation sounds so desperate and pathetic, though. He seems to be saying that he flew to California to be on a podcast. And I would say that no matter what that podcast is, no podcast is worth flying across the country to be a guest on it. Maybe if you're an up and comer trying to make a name for yourself, then you could see like,

let's say you, you're like a comic who went on the road with a friend of Rogan's, this person's fucking amazing. You get an offer to be on Rogan. I could see flying there. That could be career making. Alex's brand is that he's already the most important person in media. So he shouldn't be so goddamn desperate to be associated with the junior varsity Rogan podcast. He went to Florida to be on flagrant too. And now he's going to California to be on this full sun. It just seems really fucking thirsty. I think, and here's my, here's my suspicion. All right. He absolutely does not trust that he can make a voice call last long enough without the crew screwing something up. Wow. I mean, that's probably a good theory. Really? That's why he has to be in person.

Skype's breaking up. I can't even Skype on my own show, let alone for someone else's. Yeah, but also how does the audience not get suspicious about all these trips he seems to be taking all the while yelling about how desperately he needs money to keep a show going? Shouldn't that set off some alarms like these people? Like he could pretend that he's doing like important anti-globalist business or something. And like, I'm meeting with people behind the scenes, but that's nonsense. And he's going to try and just get clout by being on these fucking pockets. Oh, Trump was on four jets and be like, Hey, the congregation needs to give me another jet. And they're like, yes, we do. In fairness, Alex is no Joel Osteen. That is true. That is true.

But yeah, so Alex got high while he was out in California. Good for him, I guess. You know, you can control those. When I was out in California where it's legal and I still feel it two days later, smoked it one time at one sitting. Well, somebody who's initial start with an M and end with a, the point is it's going to be huge when it comes out. But I mean, I did it when in Romans, the Romans, and I'm literally feel like marijuana felt in 1990 when I'd occasionally smoke it. Yes. He's still high. Yeah. A couple days later from this, this Cali weed, nothing, nothing quite like those kids being like, Oh man, I'm so high right now. You didn't,

you didn't actually smoke marijuana, buddy. You're lying. I mean, I will agree with him that even I like from when I was younger and you would get like swag, some shit weed. Oh yeah. It was not, not nearly the potency that you see from things at the dispensary for, for example, but I don't know if you're going to be high two days later. No, small town Illinois didn't get me past a maybe 10, 12% THC content. And now you go up to 28, 29, you're going to have a good day. Those numbers didn't mean anything to me back when I was totally had no idea. I didn't know. I didn't know there was such a thing right as a content. And that's what I'm saying. Now, if you're worried about it, you don't have to smoke the most true THC. You can go and

they'll be like, Oh, you only want 15%. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. Or you can just not. No, you got to do it once a year. Well, it's a cultural thing. There's actually, it is kind of important. Okay. You go to LA. There is just plentiful weaponized marijuana, plentiful weaponized everything else. And fentanyl. And this is the chemical bio attack to take down American turnets into zombies. And I'm not judging the people. You got to go in and be in amongst it all. You know, you got to bond with them so I could then have a national discussion about this. But if I smoke pot like that every day, I'd be like these people. Hell, I feel like I'm ready to lie down on the side of the road and go to sleep for a couple of months right now. I'm serious,

folks. I took five hits off California weed and I can barely get up. You ever smoked that California weed? It is. It is fun. Caledro. It's so fun to live in two different worlds of weed legalization, you know, because he still lives in that you can get a weed, you know, you can have a weed to smoke. Right. You know, not like you can go to a store where they have the thing you want, you know? Yeah. It's crazy. But also like, what a sacrifice Alex made for the greater good. You know, like, I can't believe how selfless he is getting high with Mike Tyson. So he could be amongst the stone people and get the word out about the new world order or something. What a fucking hero. Listen, you in small town, Texas, you need to support the man because no one is going to go

to California and get high with Mike Tyson, right? Not for you. He's such an anthropologist. He's bringing knowledge to the people. Also, there's an element of this that is like being like, I'm like Jesus really. Yeah, exactly. Like I was amongst the riffraff. I went into the den of sex workers in order to make sure that they receive the same word of salvation that you among you do. It's amazing. Incidentally, this is also probably Alex's explanation for why he got wasted on Rogan's show because he needed to get the message out and need to be amongst the people. Also probably why he gets so drunk on Logan Paul's show that Logan's co-host was subtly trying to get him to stop drinking through the show. Also probably why he got so drunk on his first time

on Flagrant 2 that he took off his shirt and seemed to be in an active blackout. All of that was just part of the info war. It had nothing to do with Alex having a problem with substances and it being like honestly more fun to be fucked up. That had nothing to do with it. You know, there is a field of anthropology that studies entirely about how much better it is to be high in the exact moment you're in. It's not historical anthropology. It's just, nope, that's just doing drugs. Yeah. So Alex gets off this whole Cali weed situation, goes back to talking about the Pope. Let me just read you a couple of these headlines here for you today. Pope Francis warns a final catastrophe, close quote, quote, could extinguish human race. I really should

do the whole show on that. You do! He's absolutely telling the truth. Aw shit, looks like Harrison had the wrong take on this one. Oh my god. Alex knows where his bread is buttered and he's not going to expose the business like Harrison's stupid ass did at the top of the show. Sure, we hate the Pope. But in a situation like this, you lose nothing by just agreeing with the Pope and say he accidentally got this right or is a bad reason to be right or something. Yeah. That's the right move here from a propaganda standpoint. And if there was an even a drop of integrity it enforced and people meant anything that they said, this should be a huge problem between Harrison and Alex. For them, this isn't disagreeing about a news story. This is a deeply

rooted theological disagreement because Harrison believes the Pope is wrong, at least in part, because the Bible doesn't say that humanity goes out like that. So for Alex to entertain it as a possibility and even say that the Pope is right, that should be heretical talk, according to Harrison. None of this means anything because this is a company full of extreme right-wing zealot con man liars. But I point this out to illustrate that if any of these people had any of the convictions they claimed they did, they could never coexist and work together. It would just be constant violence. Yeah, we would never be in this situation if they believed what they said because he would never have said that the Pope was lying about the end of the world

because he believes that the world is ending. Well, actually, I don't know about the inner workings of InfoWars. After this episode, Harrison might have stapled the 95 theses on Alex's office door. There may be a scism happening within InfoWars. That is possible. I may have spoken at a turn. Another thing that went wrong for Ireland. Martin Luther once again blown us up. So Alex has been gone for a bit. And as he's been gone, the situation in Ukraine has continued to be bad. Sure. Yeah, that's gotten better. So Alex has some thoughts. And I agree with Rand Paul when he said, Putin miscalculated. Yeah, why did he miscalculate? Why did his Foreign Service FSB had their CIA had? Why did they tell them that everybody was

going to surrender? Because let me tell you, if I knew that there were stay-behind networks there and those stay-behind networks hadn't been compromised or paid off, the Russians would be in big trouble. If I knew that, and I did, I told you, the CIA has been over there training them in 2014, and I know folks that have been over there, but it's not even a secret. Then you know Putin knew that or you knew that the FSB knew. So I mean, maybe Putin didn't know. He sure as hell has arrested the head of the FSB, Foreign Intelligence Service, and his deputies, a bunch of others. How dangerous is that? And then this breaks yesterday, y'all who knows, exclusive secret CIA training program in Ukraine helped Kiev prepare for Russian invasion.

Yeah, but it didn't start in 2015. It started in 1945. Okay, so first off, right off the bat, this has no similarity with Alex's coverage of things before the war started or after the invasion began. This is a completely new narrative that he's pretending as it been when he was saying all along, and that's the case because Alex is a malicious liar. Also, the CIA was founded in 1947 and Ukraine didn't withdraw from the Soviet Union until 1991. I guess when Alex says 1945, he just means the end of World War Two. So I guess at that point, the organization that didn't exist yet was providing military training to a country that wasn't an independent country at that point. It makes total sense. The Yahoo News article that Alex is talking

about is about how after the 2014 invasion, CIA groups did teach some tactics to Ukrainian soldiers, but a lot of this isn't as secret or nefarious as it sounds. No, of course not. From the article, quote, after Russia's 2014 incursion, the US military also helped run a longstanding publicly acknowledged training program for Ukrainian troops in the country's western region, far from the front lines. That program also included instruction on how to use javelin anti-tank missiles and sniper training. The story also includes stuff about the CIA providing the anti javelin anti-tank missile training and sniper training. Right. I'm not saying this is a non-story. It just doesn't carry the same kind of weight that Alex needs it to. Also, in terms of

Sergei Beseda, the head of the FSB who got arrested, it seems like Alex is writing a really generous story about that. Alex wants to create the image that everything Putin does is okay. So in this case, the head of the FSB was aware of stay-behind networks and didn't tell Putin about them so that he would set into a trap. And that's why Putin rightly arrested him. Looking at it a different way. It might be the case that Putin is realizing that this whole thing is making him look a little bit weak. And in order to show strength, he's found a subordinate to blame and make a scapegoat. This is again an example of Alex's editorial decision clearly revealing his positions. He'll rationalize literally anything that Putin does. If Putin nuked the US, Alex will get on air the

next day and say that Soros made him do it. Totally. That's the point we're at now. Absolutely. It's bizarre. It is. It is very funny that his questions about why Putin did this, you know, like why was why is he failing? Why wasn't his intelligence very good? The actual answers to that could be very useful to Alex as well, such as maybe autocratic leaders who control everything don't like hearing bad news about how their military can't do stuff. They like to hear only good things and only have things reinforced and only have people follow out their orders the way that they're supposed to. And when you do that, sometimes if you have bad intelligence, you make a huge drastic mistake that you continue to do for long after you should have that will

eventually lead to you losing millions upon millions upon millions of dollars. So maybe the analog of this is Alex having everybody tell him the things are going great. Yeah. And instead of him going on a military adventure, he keeps going across the country to do podcasts and he can't afford it. Something along those lines. Everybody's like, yeah, you did great, boss. Yep. Getting that tank was a great idea. So smart, man. Don't rent. Yeah, buy that thing. You got to own. I'll leave you to your kids. So anyway, there's stay behind networks, which sure, whatever, whatever. But Alex makes a bizarre metaphor here. And the first war after World War Two was not Korea. It was 1945 in Ukraine. That's actually in the mainline military history books.

But the cold war started. An iron curtain has descended down, as Churchill said, over Eastern Europe. And so stay behind networks that the Nazis had. The US came in. That's why they recruited Adolf Ackman and Klaus Barbie and Joseph Mengele and all the rest of them was so they could control those networks and try to hold off the Soviets, political coups and overthrows in Eastern Europe. And in some areas they were successful and most they weren't. But then those stay behind networks never went away. And so the United States simply reactivated them. And isn't it funny, you could put seeds, almost any plant seed in a drawer for hundreds of years. And they'll still be good when you plant them. They've dug up the virus seeds in 3000 year old Egyptian tombs that

sprout perfectly later. So you wonder why when they put the miracle grow of an overthrow in a civil war on Ukraine, when Soros did that, that came up out of the dirt to Soros, beautiful comrades he fought with against the Russians in World War Two. Beautiful comrades came popping back up because they were just laying their dormant for 75 years under the soil, their children and grandchildren. This metaphor completely got away. That is out of control. So the stay behind networks he's trying to make his audience think of involves Operation Gladio. And we've talked about that a bit in the past, but suffice it to say isn't involved in any of the reality of the things we're talking about here. This all sounds pretty like a fun metaphor, though, like seeds

never die. Soros planted the seeds of rebellion that laid dormant until the uprising was triggered. This feels good for Alex to say, you know, like laying out this metaphor until he starts realizing what he's saying. He runs into two very serious problems. The first is that seeds don't live forever. I was gonna, I was gonna say most are not viable after a few years. And this is the case when they're properly stored and preserved. There are some ancient seeds that have been viable and could be planted, but they're absolutely the exception, not the rule. The oldest seed that's been viable and still planted was a Judean palm, which was 2000 years old, but the next oldest is 1300 years old. The next oldest seed that's been able to be germinated. That's a big jump.

I mean, it's still old, but that is big. 700 years. That's almost 50% of the time. It's pretty big. It's really rare for this to actually work. And there have been a ton of hoaxes where people plant seeds that they claim are old, but they're actually just current day seeds. Alex has probably seen like daily mail headlines about these hoaxes and assumed that it happens all the time. I'm not sure why he said it was papyrus, but I guess it was just because that's a word that sounds like an ancient thing. Yeah, it's from Egypt. The second problem is that when he started the metaphor, I don't think he realized how far back he was going. If these state-behind networks were set up in 1945, then assuming the members were 18 at that point, they'd be like a hundred now.

No, what you don't understand is that they were shot out of a rocket at relativistic speeds towards Alpha Centauri. Okay. And then when they got back around... No, no, no. They went to Beetle Gweez, as Alex said. Yes. But see, because they were at relevance, they didn't age. Okay. Right? Well... And they were training the whole time. I think that your theory is interesting, but assuming that that isn't the case. It's as good as his. They would be a hundred years old, and I don't know how effective a hundred-year-old state-behind network would be at repelling a Russian invasion. I saw Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade, and that old dude did not fight well. Yep. A hundred years old is tough for an infantryman. Yeah. So it's a ludicrous idea,

which is why Alex realizes his mistake and how dumb that sounds. So he says that it's the children and grandchildren of those state-behind networks. This is so stupid. He can't prove that these networks exist. And even if he did, now he has to somehow find a way to show that they passed down their positions generationally. It's just really, really dumb stuff. And it's just leading me to suspect that Alex is still high. I think he might still be high from his trip. I do like the idea of some teenager being like, I don't want to be in a state-behind network, dad! You're going to be in a state-behind network because one day Soros is going to put Miracle Grow on us. I want to paint! I want to paint, dad! You will be. I was in a state-behind network. My father

before me was in a state-behind network. We are a state-behind network family. Churchill himself put us here. Yeah, all right. It's a fun picture. Yeah, no, that's great. So Alex knows a lot about the situation historically between Russia and Ukraine. Yes, and clearly. And that's why like everyone thinks he's a bad guy because he knows facts like things that were put out by Putin and press releases. Totally. We hate people who know facts here. Yeah, but he's not taken aside. That's what people can't grasp. But still, I don't support Putin and what he's done. I know all the facts about it or a lot of the facts. So I'm the bad man because, you know, you don't want the public actually knowing the pieces to make their own decision. And my decision is let's

end this war real quick. The West helped start it with state-behind networks. Putin took the bait and came in. It endangers the world. Both sides have arguments. Let's end this now. Like the Pope said, we need peace. We need a deal. We need to stop this right now. And I'm not usually dealing, agreeing with the Pope or even Biden saying we could have World War Three. It just, it needs to stop. And instead of being on Ukraine side, like all the left of the media's calling for World War Two, or instead of being on the Russian side saying Putin's perfect and he deserves it all and he's right. And let's get behind him and crush Putin's to start leveling cities. He'll show them what to do. No, let's not do any of that. If you had to blame somebody, it's Soros

and the left and the globalists. I mean, if you have to pick who started this and who drew first blood, then who got this all going and who poked the bear over and over again so it would come down the path and step in the bear trap. Yeah, it's the globalist. It's the new world order. It's Barack Obama. It's toward Soros. Yes. Wow. That kind of undercuts your whole point about not taking a side and not. So I'm not going to take a side. I am just going to say that it's entirely Obama's fault that we are here. Obviously it's the left and Soros and not Putin whatsoever. I'm not on his side, but he is blameless in this situation. This is again these editorial acts that just reveal your actual positions. Alex can say that he's neutral or whatever. It doesn't support Putin,

but the compounded effect of literally every piece of information that he provides is Putin is right. Putin is good. The invasion is justified. That's all. That's the CIA story. The stay behind that was started in 1945, not 2015, immediately following Putin annexing a country that he did. You know, it wasn't in response to something that has already happened. It was crazy. It was out of the blue. It was Obama and Soros. Obama was a mad man dictator, crazy guy of anyone more mad. Uh huh. Yeah. So this clip is nuts, but I did. I did like the way that Alex is kind of laying out this idea that what you should do is you should think globalist Lee. I'm sorry. What think globalist Lee and act local. Exactly. So the answer is seeing the whole thing from a globalist

perspective, but being against their agenda, understanding what they're doing, but then saying, I'm not going to be part of this. I'm going to find a solution out of this so we don't kill each other and stop with this war model that we can't engage in now because of nuclear weapons and other things. Of course, the bio labs are real. Of course, all this is insane. The people running our country hate us. They hate us more than the Russians. One thing about being in LA for three days, man, I get sick every time I'm there was just like allergies, like the toxic dust. Every time I go there, I get a huge headache and just feel like hell. I don't know why I'm going off

on a tangent here, but man, good question. Beautiful place. A lot of amazing stuff. But man, cool. I hope Alex didn't get COVID again. I guess we probably won't know for a while if he did because he lied about it the other times he got it and came to work and exposed his entire crew to it. He'd rather do that than admit that he might have been wrong about it being real and serious and something you can catch. It's probably just like a California curse. Gotta be. I would assume. It's gotta be California. Maybe it was something, maybe his weed was laced with the flu. It's gotta be. It's gotta be. It's a bio lab in Ukraine. Right. That's where it came from. That's unfortunate, but we're going to talk about that a little bit more as the episode goes on. So we'll leave that

aside for right now. Right. I like though that Alex's solution is literally a non solution. He has absolutely no solutions being provided here and every single one of his talking points is backing up Putin's narrative of the war. Yeah. Soros and Obama are to blame. Ultimately, he was just trying to wipe out these dangerous bio weapon labs. This is wall to wall weasel ass Putin propaganda and Alex is too much of a coward to admit his real positions. He can say he's nuanced and he sees both sides with the reality of this content. The information that he's covering is deeply one sided and everything he brings up is something meant to legitimize Putin's invasion. Yeah. And when he says like we need to end this war now, it's like there's

basically one person who can do that. Right. It's not Ukraine that's continuing this war. No, no, no, no, no. So deal with that, you dick. Yeah. And also think globalist. Is fun. That is fun because Alex is sort of presenting this idea that if you want to save the world, all you have to do is pretend you're fighting a shadowy, all powerful group of villains. Whose plans are really dumb and they come from your imagination. I mean, it was, it was originally Steve Harvey's sequel to act, think like a man. I think like a woman act like a man or whatever it was. Yeah. Exactly. I think it's crazy to me that you can say, okay, well, all of Putin's justifications for this war are true and right. Yeah. Now,

I'm not on his side. I'm not saying that he is totally justified in this by his own justifications because if not, why not his justifications you have said are true. So why aren't you supporting him? That's a very simple. That's a huge question that Alex doesn't want to answer. Never answer that. And then the second piece of that is what information are you relying on other than things directly from Putin to assert these talking points that Putin has put out as justifications of the war is being correct. The person you specifically noted lied to you. Well, you pretend that episode didn't happen. That is true. That's a good episode. That never happened. And all of Alex's stories and the lead up to the war with the invasion never happened.

Those didn't know. Absolutely not. This is all about stay behind networks that Alex has been warning about and he was very aware of. So did Putin pay off the stay behind networks and they betrayed him? Maybe that's what Alex is thinking. That's what it's got to be, right? But still, that wasn't a topic of conversation up until this seems like it would be. You'd think it'd be really important. So we got another headline here. Okay. Let me get into some more of the headlines here. Oh, how loving I mentioned this earlier. US sending suicide drones to Ukraine. Oh, wow. That's an interesting headline for Alex to use because based on the wording of it, I know exactly where it came from. Other outlets reported on this story saying switchblade drones. But the site that

uses this headline suicide drones is information, information, liberation.com. I decided to check out some of the most recent articles and oh man, what's going on here? Quote, these storms will contribute to Russia's glory. Putin holds giant rally impact Moscow stadium. That's not good. That's an interesting, that's an interesting headline. That's not going to go well. Oh, here's a little bit further down the feed. Quote, Zelensky delivers his funniest performance yet in speech before US Congress. Wow. Oh boy. I can see disagreeing with Zelensky or possibly even like being opposed to Ukraine. I guess you could maybe I don't know. I don't know exactly how you would, but I whatever it's a position that someone could have, but it's another level of being a

shithead to say that speech was funny. This line was probably really funny to this blogger. Quote, I'm almost 45 years old today. My age stopped when the hearts of more than a hundred children stop beating. I see no sense in life if it cannot stop the deaths. This is my mission as the leader of my people and the leader of my nation. So I guess that's funny to this guy. Yeah, hilarious. Huh. This one doesn't sound good. Quote, the great Jewish oligarchs escape. Russian oligarchs flee to Israel and bid to dodge sanctions. I was literally going to make a joke headline. No, no need to. Nope. Don't even need to bother with it. Interestingly, non whites. Do we need them? Interestingly, this was a covering an article in herettes titled quote, the great oligarchs

escape, but this blog decided to add Jewish to it and to make the whole story really just an exercise in the anti-Semitic dual loyalty trope that's a classic in white nationalist and neo-nazi communities. It's really weird. It's a great way to do it. Weird. Oh, here's some important news that they decided to cover. Okay. Quote, Patriarch Kurel conflict in Ukraine is a battle against a godless international order built on gay pride parades. This was about the spiritual leader of the Russian Orthodox Church and Putin ally, Patriarch Kurel, making some really dumb comments. Quote, today there is such a test for the loyalty of this government to kind of pass to that happy world, the world of excess consumption, the world of visible freedom. Do you know what that test is?

The test is very simple and at the same time terrible. This is a gay parade. So yeah, this, this leader, a Putin ally gave a speech about how you, it's the, hey, you want to end the club? Hey, you got to have a gay parade. There is nothing that gets one closer to God than really blaming the murder of thousands of people on gay people existing. That's just, oh. So here's a, here's a bad one article that they posted just before the invasion. Here's a headline. I'm going to read it to you and you can tell me if this blogger thinks that this is a good or a bad thing. Let's hear it. Quote, Putin gives blood and soil speech on Ukraine. Were you unifying with Russia? Okay. Well, that's probably going to be a bad thing because we all know that blood and soil

speech is, you know, it's a very specific reference to a certain type of speech. Not good. Oh, it's not good. No, he loves it. Oh, here's the beginning of the article. Quote, Vladimir Putin on Monday delivered an impassioned speech accusing the Ukrainian government of operating a kleptocracy controlled by corrupt oligarchs and a quote network of foreign advisors and non-governmental organizations and made the case for reunification with Russia as one people bound by blood and Christianity. Oh boy. Man, I gotta say this website looks totally above board and the sort of place that I would be shopping for articles to cover on my show if I were Alex. This website is almost offensively biased and Alex knows that. Yeah. He gets his news from aggressively pro-Putin sites

and espouses strictly pro-Putin mess, a pro-Putin messaging while hiding behind this facade that he's exploring both sides. Alex does this because he's fully aware that Putin is the aggressor in the war and that if he stopped attacking Ukraine, there would be no further war. There isn't anything that Ukraine can do to stop the war other than aqueous to Putin's demands and essentially no longer be a sovereign country. Alex can play the game of just insisting that the war needs to end and that sounds great if you're not paying attention. The war does need to end. Alex is just pretending that the guy he supports isn't the only person who can make that happen. And an instant. Yeah. It's just totally ridiculous. I resent this attempt to appear like moderate while at the same

time. You're taking your news from this fucking blog that is disgustingly pro-Putin to the level of mocking as funny Zelensky's speech where he discusses needing help and the civilians being killed. It's abhorrent. What I see from this, from so much of that, especially the people trying to run interference for it, is it's smart to get people to think it's okay to murder people based on false reasons if you are a conservative propagandist. You don't want to say that it's wrong for Putin to just go murder people because then people might connect that to you going and murdering people and then you won't be allowed to do it. I think that there might be some of that underneath the surface but I think there's also a pot committed kind of thing in poker terms.

I think that there's just a level to which Alex has built up Putin as the enemy of the globalists and all this and to accept and admit that he's carrying out an award that is unnecessary and is targeting civilians and is terrorizing people. It would require you to take the side of the quote-unquote globalist and Alex can't get himself to that point. I feel like it's not that hard to go from Putin miscalculated to, uh-oh, Putin's tricked us. Just be like, he's a liar. He lied to me. Just say he's a liar and he's a secret globalist the whole time. But then maybe the globalists are good. You can't be a secret globalist the whole time because he's fighting against Ukraine that is full of sorrows and stay behind. There's a stay behind

network. He can be a deep agent. He's part of the deep set. Trump is a secret patriot for 50 years. Alex tried to play that Zelensky was a double agent for a while. That didn't work. That did not go well. No, but think about this too. There is no hope for this anti-globalist leadership if Putin isn't that. Because who do you have then? Do you have Bolsonaro? That's not going to rally in the interlink. Brazil is not a insignificant country, but it's not a world superpower. In order to create the kind of situation where there's a multipolar world, where there's a check, I guess, of potential hostility against the UN or the global government, as Alex would put it, you need a superpower to be led by an anti-globalist person. Putin is

required for that. It would take Erdogan literally being like, we're out of NATO surprise. We're now evil. Now evil. Sure. There's no hope for the possibility of leadership. Trump is gone. Yeah. Probably not coming back. Maybe he is. Who knows? Yeah. But even if he does, it's not going to be like, it's, we've played that game already. It's, it's, it's sour grapes for, for Alex. And I think that's a big part of what he can't give up on is that like if Putin were to. Well, a strong man can't lose. Right. If a strong man loses, he's not strong. Well, a strong man can lose if you're against them. Well, sure. Your strong man can't lose. Right. And then your ideology or your, your, the, the story that you're telling,

right. It doesn't continue past that point. We don't know about Casey's next at bat. So we get another headline or something, maybe a headline. I don't know. Enemy of the people. Fake news media begged for war during White House press briefing. We've got this slobbering event as a bunch of women call for war. I thought women were anti-war. That's a fun little bit of sexism there. Great. I'm a little curious who told Alex that women were against war. Well, considering that one reason he hated Hillary Clinton so much was that she was a warmonger. Well, that's true. Seems like it would be hard to go back now and say that women are against war.

Yeah. I think maybe he's thinking of Greta Thunberg. I suppose. Children. I thought children were supposed to be against war. Well, yeah, they are buddy. So this was a compilation of clips of reporters in the press room asking if there was a point where Biden would see as like a red line. It does come off a bit bad. And I do think that there's a preoccupation with the idea of a larger war breaking out. But these reporters weren't begging for a war so much as they were trying to get information that they can report. And one of the main questions on their readers minds presumably is whether or not there's a situation where Biden would consider sending troops and going to war. Right. I'm not going to spend my time defending it,

but Alex is misrepresenting this clip and weirdly using it as a strange attack on women. Sure. Why not? Fun. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like Biden learned the Obama lesson, which is don't say openly that there's a red line because when it gets crossed and you don't do shit about it, you're fucked. I think that that's probably a great policy in general. Yeah. Don't make that kind of a specific. It's too, it's too chaotic. Speaking of chaos, we got a guest coming in, someone we haven't heard from in a while. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. We've got really one of the best experts we could have on about this. Dr. Francis Boyle went to Harvard and other universities and got the special degree, Ph.D., the only handout once a

year that the same one Kissinger got, the same one Kissinger administered. So we got that top view of the Anglo-American globalist arm. So you like Kissinger? Of course, he did many other things. He wrote the U.S. chemical and then later biological weapons laws that was instrumental in the U.N. treaties as well. He was the lead U.N. also prosecutor in some of the biggest war crimes cases ever, including Sullivan-Milodrovich. His pedigree is known. We don't need to go over it here. It's really interesting how Francis Boyle stopped showing up on the show for a really long stretch where Alex didn't see much money in pushing the Wuhan lab conspiracies, either because the audience was getting bored of them or because there wasn't any new territory to cover there.

Either way, without that being a hot topic, Francis Boyle is straight up worthless as a guest. He's boring. He seems like a crank and in order to introduce him in a way that the audience alike, you have to lie about his credentials. A couple of quick corrections. The bio weapon law that Boyle wrote wasn't adapted into the one that the U.N. uses. The U.S. version Boyle wrote was adapted from the U.N. version. Alex always lies about this because his version makes it appear like Boyle is influencing international law as opposed to the reality that he was just adapting international law so it applied domestically in the United States. Actually, we kind of think about that. That's what a globalist might do.

Well, what he had to do was remove the U's from color because an American color doesn't have the U. That's true. I mean, that's a pretty big deal. And you have to change United Nations to United States. Yeah. Yeah. That's tough. That is tough. Also, he wasn't a prosecutor, let alone the lead one in the case against Milosevic. Boyle helped write the indictment in that case. Also, Alex should be opposed to that because that was a case that was heard in the U.N., which Alex can't believe has any jurisdiction. I don't know why he picks and chooses. Yeah, whatever. You win some, you lose some.

Alex probably doesn't want to get into the weeds with Boyle's resume, at least partially because he represented the provisional government of the state of Palestine as well as many native groups like the Lakota Nation. And he was formerly on the board of Amnesty International, who Alex has called a child trafficking operation in the past. Anyway, I appreciate some of the folks that Boyle is represented, but this dude sucks. The Ukraine biolab shit is flying around. So Alex remembered that Boyle exists. He's got to trot his boring ass down for a chat. Fun. Great. Great. So we got Boyle in there to justify Putin killing people. In a manner. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex, they get into the biolab thing here.

He's also an expert on biological weapons labs. I'm very frustrated in that I have hundreds of articles admitting that Obama and others went and basically refurbished these Soviet-era labs. It was in the Washington Post. It was everywhere. It's not debatable. And then Victoria. I mean, they did refurbish that last week. Again, the Deputy Secretary of State and the Ukraine expert, as they call her, and admits that the labs are there. But then the media simultaneously says they don't exist. We made them up. And then you're a Russian agent, if you say they exist. And then, oh, but the Russians have seized two of them that don't exist. USA Today and CNN say they're going to attack us with them, but they don't exist. And so it just seems like we've entered a land

of beyond beyond the Tea Party in Alice in Wonderland. I mean, this, this is just. It takes brass balls to accuse something of being like the Tea Party when that's what you called your political party. It's real weird. Yeah. So here's the game that's being played. Alex and his weirdo propagandist friends make an incendiary accusation based on years old Russian propaganda. In fact, the exact accusation Russia used in terms of other invasions like in Georgia. Alex says there's bio weapon labs run by the US and Ukraine and starts building a conspiracy about how that's why Putin is invading. Though he may not have originated the claim he amplifies it. And part of that information space create elaborate stories to flesh out this conspiracy to the point

where a bunch of idiots online are convinced that that's where COVID got made. Folks who know things push back and say that this is ridiculous. And there aren't bio weapons lab run labs run by the United States in Ukraine. They aren't saying that there aren't any biological labs in the country and aren't covering up US support for their modernization efforts, but they are pushing back against the stupid overblown conspiracy. Now Alex is taking those denials and pretending they were actually denying that there were no labs in the country. And this is super confusing to him. Things get confusing when you just make shit up all the time and attack your imaginary enemies. And you constantly lose the thread. You know, you imagine what they're saying back and

it's all exhausting. Yeah. Also Obama has nothing to do with the starting of this partnership between Kiev and the United States in terms of modernizing those labs. That dates back to at least 2005. And the weapon non proliferation treaty we signed with them years before Obama was president. Also if Alex has 1945, you have to say it slower. Sorry, my bad. Also if Alex has all these old articles about Obama making weapons labs in Ukraine, how was there no mention of this in the lead up to the invasion? It seems like if all this shit would be relevant and it's definitely a large part of his coverage now, but it feels like this only became a talking point Alex was aware of after Putin and Putin aligned media started pushing the story as a means to

justify that invasion. Seems weird. It wasn't even wasn't even a kernel in Alex's mind at the days before the invasion or even the day of. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Yeah. Weird. I do like the I do like that. Like, oh, they refurbished them. How evil and shouldn't it be a simple question of like, Hey, what do you want in foreign bio labs? Do you want them to have drips dropping from the ceiling and leaky shit everywhere? Or do you want it to be safe? Well, obviously there's that hard and there's a reason why labs require keeping some of these samples around. And I think that some people often don't understand exactly why that is. There's there's a number of reasons, but one of them that is never discussed by Alex is that in order to calibrate testing equipment, you need

a sample of the thing right that you would be testing for in order to assure that this thing works. No machine works. Just guess. You can't toss it out there. Do that. Seems like it would work. That's what I want by a labs to say seems like it'll go. Hey, we're winging it. Yeah, it sounds good. This is like important high risk high level stuff. And you know, I think knowing that you need to keep these samples on hand, whether it be for some kind of a test, some kind of an experiment or some kind of calibration of equipment, you needed to be safe. You needed to be secure. And that was a large part of the US involvement in these labs that were that already existed. Right. It's not like they're running. Sure. Anyway, I mean the

conspiracy mind is that preparation for a disaster is preparation to make the disaster happen. Of course. So when it's convenient. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah. Yeah. Unless you're preparing for a different disaster that won't happen. Right. Alex sells does that like survival food. Exactly. Is he planning to burn all the crops in America? Yes, obviously. That's how this conspiracy works. It's Monsanto. He's trying to do it. So Boyle starts and he starts bad in six minutes to break. What is your synopsis? If you were briefing the world, you are briefing millions right now about the some knowledge of what you would call this sleepwalking into Armageddon or what is it? Well, Alex, thank you very much for having me on my best year viewing audience.

Yes, it's as I see it, we really have to start with the promises made by Secretary State Jim Baker and many of the other NATO leaders that if Secretary General Gorbachev agreed to the unification of Germany, NATO would not move to the east. But once Clinton got in there and they proceeded to expand NATO to the east, the promises that Baker and the other European leaders made to Gorbachev were binding under international law. This is bullshit and Boyle is just repeating things he's heard. Gorbachev has given interviews about the negotiations with Baker and he said that the topic of other countries joining NATO never came up. There wasn't an agreement except that NATO troops would not be stationed in East Germany. So we're starting off

here on a false premise that only serves to legitimize Putin's argument for invading. And to be clear, I'm not necessarily saying that NATO expansion is a positive thing. And I think there's a lot of fine arguments against NATO and how it operates. What I am saying is the claiming that NATO agreed to not expand what Gorbachev negotiated with Baker is not true. And even if it were, it wouldn't be a justification for invading Ukraine when two other NATO countries already border Russia and Ukraine is not going to be joining anytime soon. Bigger problem, Boyle is supposed to be an expert in international law. And I guess if he really believes this line, then Boyle shouldn't have a problem arguing that a preemptive strike against any NATO country should

be justified if Russia did it. Like, right? Yeah. Well, they were, I mean, you could say that NATO is in talks with any country. Sure. Yeah. Or any country that recently joined, like Montenegro joined not too long ago. Well, yeah, but everybody's got to take down Montenegro. Even NATO is like, well, we're going to go down there. We're going to join you. Yeah. The rationalizations and justifications you can make based on believing this are staggering. You could just do anything. What's so insane is when you're like redoing, when you're redrafting past treaties, you know, you're not accounting for the fact that Putin is the fucking president of Russia, man. We're dealing with his bullshit, not even really the way he's reacting to

treaties in the past or anything like that. This is a dude who is a megalomaniacal lunatic who is trying to reform the Soviet Union. Yeah. It wouldn't matter if NATO was weaker or stronger. And you're imagining like some kind of a reality where he hasn't broken through. Yeah, totally. Yeah. What are we doing now? Putin? Putin said he was fine. The exact word of the law. Totally. Absolutely. Let's really parse his actions in Syria and see how well that holds up. So speaking of treaties, Boyle has some other dumb shit to say. In December, as you know, the Russian government submitted two treaties to NATO and to the Biden administration. I've read them. I won't go through all of them here. There was

a wish list. Okay. But the bottom line was Russia wanted assurances that Ukraine was not going to join NATO and that NATO would not expand, say, to Moldova and Georgia, which are right there in this area. And for two months, the Foreign Minister Laval fruitlessly negotiated with the Biden administration over this. And Biden refused, absolutely refused to make these assurances, which he should have given because they were required by the promises that Jim Baker had made for Bush senior. Who cares? Yeah. In Boyle's world, Putin is asking for assurances of things that are already established international laws. Biden's response doesn't matter. However, if Boyle's wrong and all this didn't happen, and there wasn't a guarantee,

then it's really just Putin making demands and Biden not acquiescing to them. Yeah. Also, there's a reason that Boyle isn't going into the details about these December treaty demands. It's because they're a bit overreaching. And some have suggested that they were designed to be rejected to give the appearance of trying to have a diplomatic approach. No. One request is the demand that NATO not expand specifically to include Ukraine, but also generally to not any other countries. The other main request is a little stickier. This one at Biden's shoes might have been fine. Probably would have been fine. This was that they wanted NATO to agree to not deploy any troops or weapons to any country that had joined NATO past 1997.

Yeah, I don't think they're going to be happy with that one. I doubt that one's going to be fine. The date was 1997 because that was when an agreement was signed between NATO and Russia called the founding act on mutual relations, cooperation and security between NATO and the Russian Federation. This was an agreement aimed at warming relations and specifically deals with NATO countries not deploying nuclear weapons to member states. Also weirdly, in that document with both NATO and Russia agreed to, it says, quote, NATO has expanded and will continue to expand its political functions and take on new missions of peacekeeping and crisis management in support of the United Nations and the organization for security and cooperation in

Europe. Seems like that shouldn't be in there based on Boyle's understanding of things. Like, why would Russia agree to a document that says NATO has expanded and will expand? Well, because they've already paid off the Russian military and Zelensky is a double agent and it's all making sense now. It all started back then in 1945. Zelensky wasn't president at 97. 1945 is when he first took office. All right. Okay. So the ask that Russia was making at the end of 2021 was a non-starter because essentially what it would do is make NATO say that these countries that have joined since 1997, here's a list of them, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania,

Croatia, Montenegro and North Macedonia. Right. They would all be in the alliance, but also if they were in trouble, NATO wasn't going to be able to help. Yeah. It would basically undermine the entire premise of an alliance and leave all of these countries on their back foot unprepared for a possible incursion. Also, from 1997 to 2014, it wasn't a super common practice for states to send troops or weapons to new member states unless there was an emergency, but that trend changed after Putin invaded and annexed Ukraine. See, there was the thing. Yeah, that was the thing. See, he did the thing. Right. Yeah. That was actually a bit of a game changer from a strategic perspective. Now, naturally, this isn't an agreement that Biden is going to

accept. And guess what? Even if he wanted to, he couldn't. It would be up to NATO. They vote. Biden doesn't run NATO. For Boyle to claim that this was a sincere effort on Putin's part and that there was a rejection of peace on Biden's part is completely absurd and reveals only that he's a probably a big consumer of far right Putin supporting media probably like reads information, liberation over breakfast. Yeah, it's a nonsense. I mean, I find it hard to believe that if Biden were to come out and have capitulated to every demand that Putin made, I find it hard to believe the far right would be like, yay, good work. It is a great idea for the leader of our sovereign nation to give in immediately. There would be one faction that's like you're showing weakness.

Totally. And then there would be another faction that's like, ah, he's given an inch now, Putin, take over America. And they're going to go back and forth. They're so stupid. I hate these people. Yep. I hate them. So speaking of dumb things, here's another dumb thought Boyle has. And I think even today, I'm in favor of stopping the war. It could be stopped today if President Biden were to get up and announce and say publicly, yes, Ukraine will not be joining NATO. I already said that NATO will not be expanding to the East in Georgia, Moldova, or elsewhere. And the rest we're prepared to negotiate certainly over removing U S nuclear weapons for Europe. This is so stupid. Biden's saying that NATO won't expand means nothing.

He doesn't control that unilaterally. And even if he did, I thought the premise of war was supposed to be about denazifying Ukraine or shutting down bio weapon labs or taking back the dumb boss region, which is rightfully rushes and under attack by Ukraine. I've lost the plot. I don't really know what we're supposed to be justifying anymore. See, I feel like if you have these justifications, then before a peace treaty, even including like you get where not NATO's not going to move all this stuff, right, it would have to handle the Ukraine situation. So if you wanted to have a peace treaty, then you would have to say, okay, well, Ukraine's going to give up its leadership of itself. It is going to put everything under the control of Putin is Russia

now to consume only Russian pro media for as long as it takes for them to stop listening to the West ever. Yeah, I feel like we're a little bit past that being like a take that's going to work. Seems like it's not going to go. I may be a little salty in part because this is incredibly frustrating to try to pay attention to like all these various reasons why this invasion is okay. Yeah, there's no consistency. The point changes from day to day. And yet what remains and is ever present is the insistence that in force is totally right. And that whatever they're saying today is what they've said all along. I know this isn't news, but it's really getting to me a little bit more than usual. And maybe it's because there's because it's about a war. Speaking

of war, what Boyle is functionally advocating for, like you brought up is a complete acquiescence to Putin and the surrender of Ukraine to his rule. He may not think that that's what he's saying. And he has a bunch of bad arguments to throw around, but the state of affairs he wishes to see is for everyone resisting Putin's invasion of Ukraine to just stop and let him take over the country. I mean, that's the end result. If your only conversation, if your thoughts on how to stop the war have nothing to do with Ukraine whatsoever entirely about NATO not expanding, then you're just saying that Ukraine should be Putin's. At this point, for sure. That's it. So Boyle brought up that treaty from late last year and Alex decides to riff on it a little. And so it is true that

all these treaties expired. The US did not want to negotiate and let them expire. And so Putin saw this again is, wow, they've cut all their Cold War era and post Cold War nuclear agreements. They're going to war with us. I mean, for people that aren't a diplomat like you, a top diplomat, former diplomat, that's a major provocation. I want to get your take on that when we come back and talk about where this is all going. But yeah, oh man, a major provocation is totally justified in his actions. So what treaties is Alex trying to claim expired? He's not specific at all. What the fuck is he talking about? Oh, he was talking about Dan and Dan and treaty milk. Okay. Yep. There was a nuclear nonproliferation proliferation treaty called the new start, which began in 2011. Right. This

was set to run 10 years and would have ended on February 5th, 2022, which would really work well for Alex's argument, but it was extended for an additional five years. So it's still in effect until 2026. Yeah. That agreement was announced in March, 2021, and it resigning it and continuing the treaty was a high priority for Biden. Yeah. I don't think that this is what Alex is talking about, but maybe he saw someone reference a fake story about it in a meme and he just assumed that they didn't extend it or something. I don't know. I think what's going on is that Boyle has brought in this bullshit about the demands Putin was making in December. And now Alex is writing a bigger story on top of all of it. It's all just an exercise and excuse and Putin's invasion of

Ukraine. That's literally all this show is at this point. It's outrageous. That is fucked up. Yep. It's fucked up. Yep. Nothing else to say about that, except for this clip is even more fucked up. Great. And as I said, they're using Ukraine and the Ukrainians as a battery ram against the Putin government and against the Russian Federation. Well, I totally agree that this is premeditated. And so it makes the West the bad guys, even if Putin is starting to try not to commit atrocities, but he's going to have to. What it looks like as this continues on. He's going to have to. Hey, listen, when you're fighting a war, sometimes you just have to commit atrocities. I mean, I unfortunately think that that is true descriptively. But Alex is speaking of this kind

of moralistically. I think that the carrying out of war almost always involves atrocity. I mean, it is an atrocity, right? By definition. And that is a good reason to be opposed to war on a general basis. Seems seems like it. Alex seems to be, first of all, denying the atrocities that have already happened. No, no, no. That's all fake news propaganda. So that's troubling. And then saying, okay, he's going to have to. Well, I mean, sometimes you commit atrocities. No big deal. Don't like that. It's a strategic thing. You just choose to kill a large number of civilians in order to end the war that you started because Nazis were killing. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. No, okay. So because we're going to kill Ukrainians. Oh, shit. No.

No. It's outrageous. Alex is just comically pro-Putin. But let me ask you this. How do you see this gut level ending right now? Putin can't say face unless he gets some type of deal. Looks like deals aren't coming. He's going to have to escalate somehow to try to defeat these embedded Nazi forces that are hiding. So now they're embedded Nazi forces again? I mean, how does he thread that needle when all the western propaganda is against him? I really don't know, Alex. Wow. I just, I find it shocking that Boyle just like accepts the premise. Yeah, they're on the same page with this shit. It's, it's nonsense. Just crazy. No, I don't know. Hey, listen, I don't know how he solves this imaginary problem

without escalating without escalating. He's going to have to escalate because a deal because the US isn't making a deal. No, it's entirely the West's fault. And by the way, of course, it's not like Zelensky isn't making a deal. He doesn't have a choice. Well, all right. He just works with the US. Whatever NATO says he'll do because he's going to be wait. No, he doesn't get to join NATO either. Putin desperately wants a deal so he can save face, get out of here with a little bit of strength intact. Right. But it's not coming. So he's going to have to escalate. Well, I mean, Alex, Alex seems like legitimately to be preparing his audience to accept like some really fucked up stuff. Yeah. No, genocide. Yeah. Absolutely.

Like there's, there's no other, there's no other solution. Great that he's talking to like an international law expert on war crimes. Yeah. And it's like, and it's like, that's his, that's his idea of real politic, you know, like, okay, well, he's in a bad bargaining position. You know, he's losing the war. So he doesn't want to get a deal now because they won't be good terms for him. You understand, Dan, he doesn't want to deal right now because there won't be good terms for him. But he's not going to want to deal. Well, of course he wants a deal, but he wants to deal with good terms for him. So if he commits atrocities, then the deal might be sweeter for him. And Alex is fine with that because it's got to be, it's all about the deal, man. It's like

Alex's ideal ruler is M. Bison from the Street Fighter movie. Might be something to that. You might not be wrong. Anyway, Boyle, like I said, I'm going to sound like a broken record. Dude's dumb. Right. I think we have to demand that Biden himself publicly proclaim that Ukraine will not join NATO. It did. So this is a dumb bullying tactic because the demand is something meaningless. The hope is that you have some sort of a meaningless symbolic action that seeds power to the people making that demand vis-à-vis Russia, Putin and the Putin aligned propagandists like Alex. You got it. Also in June, 2021, Biden was asked at a press conference about Ukraine joining NATO and he said, quote,

it depends on whether they meet the criteria. The fact is they still have to clean up corruption. The fact is they have to meet other criteria to get into the action plan. So school's out on that question. It remains to be seen. And it will not just depend on me whether or not we conclude that Ukraine can become a part of NATO. It'll depend on the alliance and how they vote. There's a world reality that Biden can't wave his hand and force this group to vote the way he wants them to. However, there's an info wars pretend reality where a big strongman ruler can just do whatever he wants. So the fact that Biden isn't doing these things means he must not want to. It's a legitimately middle school level shit. And I feel pretty embarrassed for these dudes

talking like this publicly. And to clarify, Trump was able to do a lot of shit unilaterally, but you might notice that all the stuff he did like that were times when he pulled the U S out of something. He never exerted his will over these organizations or groups with his strength. He just didn't get his way and withdrew now, which you can do unilaterally. Right. Now, see that might be an explanation of how they think the world works. Yeah. Trump is like, you have to do what I say. And they're like, no. And he's like, well, then I am going to go back to a world where people have to do what I say and you are not involved. Yeah. Goodbye. I am taking my ball and going to blackmail Zelinski. Yeah. So Alex is deep in this conversation with Boyle

about dumb immature nonsense. Yeah. And by the way, Boyle is a Chicago guy. Really? Yeah. He's he lives in Illinois somewhere. Maybe maybe just outside Chicago or in Chicago. Bitch. I'm rolling me. Find me. I bet he's a rolling Meadows piece of shit. I'm not saying I want to fight him, but I will call him a baby to his face. Yeah. Oh yeah. Totally. I would even go so far as to call him a big dumb baby. I'm a little bit salty. You are. So Alex is talking to Boyle. They're having this, this fun conversation and Alex gets distracted by important breaking news. Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's just gone live at info wars.com. There's a video of it. We were doing the German translation, but he's speaking to them in German because a lot of them are

speak German type dialects. How about how his father fought the Russians and how they're fighting today? So they're not even thinly veiling this now. I mean, this is just like twilight zone and his dad did fight at Stalingrad and did actually fight in these areas. It was in the SS. Arnold wasn't speaking German in that video. He's speaking Russian. He was appealing to the people of Russia in a fairly interesting, but probably ineffective way to see the way that Putin is lying to them. But what's going on in Ukraine? It's not mostly about his dad, though Arnold doesn't hide that his dad was fighting for the Nazis. He does literally mention that the video is about Arnold's love for Russia and the people of Russia like about how his first weightlifting hero was a

guy from Russia named Yuri Petrovish Veslov and how he met Yuri as a 14 year old boy and Yuri was very kind to him. Arnold's dad didn't like that he idolized Yuri because as Arnold explains, he was injured in Leningrad quote where the Nazi army that he was a part of did vicious harm to the great city and its brave people. The video touches on how he got to meet Yuri again as an adult when he went to Moscow again to film Red Heat, the first American movie that was permitted to film in Red Square. Essentially, it's a very compelling argument that Schwarzenegger has a deeply felt connection to the people of Russia and the country itself. Outside criticizing that it doesn't seem like this is something that'll make a real difference. I don't know what the complaint about

this video is like it's definitely less cringe inducing than other celebrity videos we've seen and I gotta say that it feels very sincere like the memories really do mean a lot to Arnold. Yeah, no, he was he's very important to I think what was it one of the Mr. Universes that he won was like I stumped some but it was like broadcast on Russian state TV and it was like one of the biggest things that they'd seen of yeah so it's like yeah. It's such an interesting intersection of his lived experience too with just like being the son of an Austrian former Nazi soldier who idolized a Russian weightlifter that got him like really motivated into that world that essentially ended up creating his career or leading to his career this intersection of that like lineage

of coming from somebody who hated Russians because of his experience in World War II to being somebody who sees the country and the people for the beautiful thing that it is totally it's a it's a very I don't know it's obviously like I'm saying I don't think it's going to move the needle in terms of world affairs doubtful but I do think it's a more valuable video to watch than the imagine video for that one that was going around about if I was Putin's mom yeah yeah you know like that stuff's nonsense that at least has some substance to it and if only as a like a sort of moving autobiographical slice of Arnold's life yeah I think it's interesting I mean it did remind me you know it's a good message of course but it did remind me

like I it went back and I started remembering Arnold Schwarzenegger's life and just going this man is a cartoon character yeah this life is not real but also you kind of like watching you get like you like oh that's kind of why he won totally governor like totally tutorial race absolutely you can kind of get a sense of like you forget like you just see the movies and he's like right just a chopper right you know like he he does a big muscly weirdo who shoots people and right a strange accent that's never explained in the movie but yeah he's a compelling interesting person totally I think Alex is still just mad that he couldn't derail that campaign back in 2003 still just mad at Arnold probably anyway yeah important news Arnold put out a video he did

we got to get it we got to handle it and clearly the way Alex is talking about you can tell he hasn't watched it he doesn't know what this is about he's reporting on look at what he imagines this video you know his dad was a nazi you know that right it's worthless yeah he talks about that in the video you don't fuck if you'd watched it yeah so anyway Boyle is I mean he's somebody who like I said he drafted the indictment or helped draft the indictment against Milosevic right he's somebody who has at least a level of gravitas in terms of the world of international relations right he should be somebody who understands to be careful with his words and if you wrote slobid on Milosevic's indictment you should probably be aware that Putin is has got a real

good shot at getting awful close to that no apparently not apparently it goes the other way oh odd yes these reports coming out of uh Ukraine today are fully consistent with the United States government supporting biological warfare against Russia and if you take a look at the map you'll see large numbers of biological warfare weapons surrounding China so yes I I've read the reports they certainly sound uh credible uh to me he's essentially accusing the United States of having biological weapons labs yeah I mean he's literally like listen all I'm saying is Iraq should invade America we have we have WMD's I'm not saying I'm just saying I'm just saying I'm not saying but I'm just saying it gets worse it's justifying this gets worse there's the map right

those are offensive biological warfare weapons facilities they've been bought and paid for by the Pentagon itself you know the Pentagon does not engage in missionary activity they kill people and that's why those are there I have no doubt about that in my mind indeed earlier I gave interviews to Russian news media earlier American sources over there harvesting the DNA of materials of Russians and they asked me why and I said simple because they're going to try to create an ethnic specific biological warfare uh weapon against Russians if they can figure it out wow sounds shady is this is he telling me that this I bet he doesn't even I bet he didn't even get paid probably not I bet this motherfucker went and did some fucking propaganda for Putin they're free

bullshit that's I'm furious shady I'm furious listen fine you're a monster but at least get paid now you're an idiot in a monster yeah speaking of like getting paid Alex plugs Boyle's books and this is this I would have done this differently well I think Dr. Francis Boyle for joining us today everybody should check out his books and his information just search Francis A. Boyle and find this great compendium of work especially at amazon.com what why are you plugging Amazon find as you can find his work that I don't know at amazon.com like amazon.com for finding work that I don't know you hate Bezos are you directing traffic to Amazon like we had Elizabeth Williamson on and we were talking about her new book and very specifically we made a point to not have the link

go to Amazon go there right fuck Amazon you know it's almost like when we say that we hate Jeff Bezos we then follow through well I mean there's no there's no need to be dramatic and performative about it yeah of course yeah functionally if anybody was going to buy a book based on our recommendation it would be ideal for them not to do it through Amazon and if we can direct traffic through a link to another place to get the book you way better right so why is Alex who supposed to be one of Bezos' blood enemies sworn to one of them must die why is he trying to get him a cut does does does Boyle not have his own website where you can find his books I bet he doesn't like if you look at the shots of him when he's wherever he's being interviewed his office is

just like piles of paper oh okay like he he's he looks like he might might might be all analog baby that's fair that's fair I mean I envy that in a certain way mm-hmm yeah so the topic of Mitt Romney comes up sure and he's important this is where the interview ends and I think there's a couple things that are a little problematic for Alex here and the one thing about Romney you have remember he was elected in Massachusetts as a rhino the only way he could be elected and then he immediately veered to the extreme right and in order to make the boots of the extreme right of the Republican Party I'm not saying the whole Republican Party I'm a political independent but the extreme right and Romney tried to restore the death penalty in Massachusetts

now we had studied the death penalty the Sacco-Venzetti case in in Massachusetts there in law school together and knew what a travesty the whole thing was leading Massachusetts to a bottom line are you saying he's a sociopath close to it yeah I mean you have to be sick and demented to spend full time like Romney did to restore the death penalty in Massachusetts all right there's some problems yeah first there shouldn't be any acknowledgement that there's an extreme right in terms of the political identity of people in government on this show that's not a reality that's accepted there are GOP members of congress who Alex thinks are liberals rhinos there are left-wing extremists like AOC and then there's the trump lunatics who Alex thinks are his old school constitution loving

people they're liberals honestly basically classic liberals patriots the extreme right doesn't exist because when you consider who like you know just who comes to mind when Boyle says that Romney kissed up to the extreme right uh it's Trump who's who's the extreme right it seems like it might be Trump oh it's might be Trump the second problem is that Boyle's going hard on the death penalty which Alex actually supports you'd think he wouldn't because he's so anti-government he pretends to be a libertarian but man he loves the idea of the government killing his enemies seems like you wouldn't want the government who you don't trust right who you think is lying all the time and the liberal to have the power to kill you right and the libertarian non-aggression

principle relies so much on the you know the government not being the sole source of force and uh not good no he's fine with the government killing the people he wants them to kill as long as it's only the ones he wants though it's not an ideal end to this interview I would say um we have we have a couple clips left here and um Alex ends talking to Boyle and here's where he's at okay and I've got all this other news that I want to get to but I I got to tell you when I saw this headline earlier I thought it can't be real then we went and watched it and checked it in the German and the American and how the Ukrainians would then translate it and then this is crazy what Schwarzenegger said Hitler admire Arnold Schwarzenegger

invokes Nazi father and defensive Ukrainian Nazis the the the twilight zone situation that we've had I want I want to play some of that bottom of the arm okay that's that's that's coming up it's on info wars.com it's just insane no no conversation about what's going on in Mariupol nothing about the the situation as it exists in Ukraine the type of news that Alex can cover is complaining about a imagined version of a video that Schwarzenegger put out that's the dull end of the spear that he has that's so stupid yeah yeah we are kind of in a twilight zone episode where like you can show people reality and they can tell you they can like read word for word back to you what was said and they will still tell you that Arnold Schwarzenegger

was trying to be a Nazi supporter loves like like they can't like it is such a oh you just don't live in the world man you just don't live here yeah so after this Alex does not talk more about the Arnold video he says we should play some maybe gets to it eventually but for now he's got to get into a plug oh of course I have gotten the point where I couldn't even do the first hour of the show today because I'm sitting there in these meetings and I'm trying to set up sponsorships and trying to get sponsorships to wire money in just to make payroll and I'm not I don't judge myself by how much money I've gotten all that kind of stuff it's kind of fun and neat to not you know to be so lean as it makes you focus and plus all our enemies say we've got all this extra money

and boy are they gonna get surprised but they've already they already know I like to joke a lot and we have some laughs but I want to speak sincerely here I don't believe this shit at all but if this is true Inforz is the most pathetic organization and Alex is the worst business owner in the entire propaganda game his number one job is to do his show which is live from 11 to 2 and then someone else takes over for the last hour there's literally no reason why he can't talk to a potential sponsor before 11 or after 2 except for a couple options that I can think of one he has absolutely no power in the situation at all and the potential sponsor is calling all the shots and Alex has to bend over backwards in order to make a few bucks and yes I will take a call while

I'm supposed to be on air yeah they might even be fucking with him if they're forcing him to take a call while he's on air possibly yeah second option Alex has so little interest in doing any work that he's essentially only going to be working from 11 to 2 and if that means doing business while he's supposed to be on air well that's why he pays that st patrick obsessed dork to to work there for you yeah come on man third option he wasn't talking to sponsors he was talking to lawyers or a court who he can't reschedule a meeting with yeah I think that might be more I'm gonna go with the third option whatever the case this is just an embarrassing level of inability to do one's job and I honestly I resent it also hey asshole you just went to LA to do a podcast

do you really expect anyone to feel sympathy for your inability to make payroll like have 10 last guns or get rid of potentially extravagant studio like get rid of the the weird led lighting behind your don't take a week vacation to another state to do a podcast if you need to make payroll so badly I'm sure you're overextended Dan see this is the problem we have been out of the regular workforce for too long yeah that is how capitalism works my friend that's the way every boss I've ever had works sorry we can't make payroll I am calling you from Hawaii right now just in case you were wondering I I'm sorry I'm gonna pay you next week your can't make it can't make it this week reminder didn't you work for your cousin uh well not every boss but I had one boss that was

I have a different work history than you I do not have a lot of familiarity with that's fair I'll tell you this the hearing aid game uh real shady okay yeah uh but look more and more I find that Alex's sales pitches seem to be like a guy who has a bad business model explaining it yeah that seems to be just like what's going on yeah it does seem a little bit like hey listen I am a failure unless you buy this bullshit look we were really high uh in the lead up to uh Trump you know all that right we were crushing it spent too much way too much I hired too many people overhead we have too much rent to pay never heard of it our electric bills are through the roof nobody told me it's almost like autocratic leaders don't like hearing bad news before they

make decisions that they want I decided to make this dumb dumb free speech youtube clone type website um and uh hey uh there's no ads except for my own shit on there because no one wants to advertise so this is a sinkhole of money it's a real bad idea a lot of hosting a lot of hosting costs there expensive yeah oh great I I have to pay in order to host the video of the guy who's dressed like Uncle Sam yelling at people on the street but he's changing the world and Harrison Smith has got 200 views on this are this video I mean to be fair look Harrison doesn't have a lot of views more than that okay more than that all right oh boy yeah if there's any solace I think that these indications are like this is not he's not long for this game no no no this is going down

he's already exhausted the money that he could get out of Michael Lindell was conceivable yeah because Lindell's gone well not gone but he's he's in the wind right um I don't I don't know outside of like shady right wing billionaires what kind of options he might have yeah which I mean that's a road that he could go down if he hasn't burned that bridge in some way I mean isn't Milo Yiannopoulos coming back to isn't people aren't people paying attention to him in the right wing sphere again not really not really okay I don't think so good I think maybe his name came up because allegedly he hooked Marjorie Taylor green up with Nick Fuentes for that right and him and Nick Fuentes have like a bit of a weird history mm-hmm because Nick obviously outright bigot hates gay people

yeah but he and Milo even when Milo was still a gay man according to him yeah he was still a Catholic fascist right and so like the two of them bonded over their desire for a Catholic dictatorship right and so like the two of them like now that Milo is a former gay man according to him the two of them have less hurdles in terms of their association and their desire to bring about a Catholic theocracy can't can't doesn't that shouldn't that give you pause for your wanting a Catholic dictatorship if you and the guy next to you who both want the Catholic dictatorship if one of you were to get power over the other one the other one would die well don't you think that's not anymore not anymore I understand back then wouldn't you be like hmm maybe this whole

Catholic dictatorship is a bad idea if the guy that I like would kill me I I don't know how you get there but yeah it'd be weird it seems weird it'd be weird it'd be tough yeah I don't think Milo is rising back to any real uh importance within that scene but but who knows who knows no um so look this show is a disgusting exercise in Putin apology and uh it's oh my god I don't know why we came back to the present you know I the past was substantially more enjoyable made me less salty right I I am I am amazed I really am amazed like it would feel bad for me to make justifications for any large-scale murder sure I I think it would make me feel bad right to do it with this gusto seems I mean in in a very uh a neutral term of the word awesome it is

awe inspiring it is awe like how how is this possible and the thing that I think is really fascinating too is that there's like that mixture of gusto and pretending to be like I'm just looking at all sides sure sure I'm not I'm not defending Putin's totally yeah it's a de facto admission that you know what he's doing is wrong you could read it that way yeah you could it's it's a cowardly gusto which is not something you see all too often um yeah bro anyway the show sucks yep it's sucks but yeah we'll see what's happening later though and uh we'll be back for another episode possibly something fairly fun on wednesday maybe maybe something wacky who knows but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep uh we're also on twitter we are on twitter

it's that knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed jordan yep uh we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm dr marbles and now here comes the sex robots andy and chance us you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you