Knowledge Fight - #667: July 25, 2003

Episode Date: April 8, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan take a little breaky to the past.  In this installment, Alex creates a Michael Savage based conspiracy and performs a mini one-man show. Citations...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding me. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around and worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex June. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan, I guess is that I have decided the year of
Starting point is 00:01:16 the mustard is happening. Okay. Okay. There are going to be details revealed moving forward. Details revealed. Okay. We have to do this differently than last time. No. The year of the mustard was a disaster. It wasn't a disaster, but it was our first draft. Right. All right. It was the first draft. We learned a lot of lessons. Ending is important. Yeah. Absolutely. And you know, you have to have a fearless inventory of failures. And I took some time. I searched my soul and I've identified a couple of like real basic things that were done wrong. Right. And I'm going to correct those, those wrongs and make this the best year of the mustard ever. But of course, our years begin on four twenties. So four twenty will be the
Starting point is 00:01:58 beginning of the year of the mustard because that makes as much sense as anything else we do. Yeah. It's a stoner new year or something, even though I don't smoke. No, no. So year of mustard is going to happen. Get hyped live from the globalist headquarters. The year of the mustard is happening. Yeah. I'm very excited. I have so many mustards. I'm excited to try. Yeah. I'm excited. Are you going to put a new section on the website? Not maybe not on the website, but we'll figure out somewhere to house the mustard. The mustard reviews. There will be pictures of each mustard as well. That was something I failed last year. This is one of the failings. I didn't have pictures of myself with all of the
Starting point is 00:02:42 seltzers. Sure. No, no, no. This year pictures of myself, selfies, mustard selfies. Did you know that we have an Instagram account? We do. Yeah. Yes, we do. We can do it for the grand buddy. Okay. All right. Look for that. So yeah, I'm excited. Yes. I'm excited to. My bright spot is my wife. My wife. Yeah, no, right? We're legally obligated to do that. We're on a podcast. It's not my fault. I should have called her my partner. That may be the real reason. Not respect for anything. No, she purchased for me for my birthday a bicycle. Oh, yeah. I saw that. Did you know that bicycles are expensive? Yes. Now, I am willing to throw out my first ever absolute unqualified advertisement not paid for working bikes is fucking incredible. Is that
Starting point is 00:03:41 the name of the company? That's the name of the place. It's Chicago company. It's fucking amazing. They take old bikes, refurbish them. They sell them for a few hundred bucks. Place is cool as shit. Everybody who works there is like knows too much about bikes. Basically kind of like a little bit like a recycling. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's the first bike I've had about 10 years. The last one I had was stolen after three weeks. Sure. So expect that to happen again. I'm rooting for this one to stay here for a full month. Figures crossed. I'm excited. You wearing a helmet? Yes. Good. Yeah. Safety first. Safety first. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We are back in the past for a number of reasons. Good news. We're talking
Starting point is 00:04:24 about July 25th, 2003. And there's a couple of reasons. The first is that Alex was out of town for most of this week going to do his deposition in Connecticut. He had to go to Connecticut. Costly deposition in Connecticut. But you'll probably get a lot of the stall money back. So it wasn't that costly, although tickets. I mean, sure. Short notes. And then what's the emotional cost of hanging out with Norm Pattis? You know, infinite. Yeah. It's like that MasterCard commercial. But the opposite. Priceless. Correct. In reverse. In reverse. So yeah, there's there. He's been out of studio for a good bit of time. And honestly, I think that largely info wars content at the present day, you can pretty much predict everything
Starting point is 00:05:06 that they're going to be talking about. Yeah. It's going to be amplification and more extreme versions of this labeling LGBTQ folk as grooming. Right. And that whole narrative, they're going to be amplifying that it's going to be yelling about the Supreme Court. Yeah, it's going to be Alex justifying Putin's behavior. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's really not into it. There's nothing more to say about his transphobia that we didn't already cover with his homophobia 20 years ago. Right. That's one of the things that I kind of find is a sticking point. I mean, what are you going to say? The fascists have chosen the trans people the trans community to try and wedge their fucking nightmarish bullshit into
Starting point is 00:05:47 the rest of our lives. Yeah. And yeah, it's it's scary and it's vicious awful and unacceptable in every way and shall be not not tolerated. You bet. So I wanted to go back to the past. But we also have another bit of a little bit of a business, I believe a little bit of an announcement. That is we have a crazy month coming up. That's one way of putting it. You are going to be on vacation on your honeymoon in quotes. Yeah. Heavy quotes. Heavy quotes. They're all honeymoons. Sure. So you're going to be gone. Yeah. And then you're going to be back. Yeah. And then on April 25th. Yes. Alex's trial in Austin begins. Yeah. And we will be going to Austin. I mean, we don't have a choice really. It's this is that you describe it as our comic
Starting point is 00:06:37 card. It really is kind of our comic card, isn't it? I guess there's not much else to call it. I think that we have to approach it with an air of more dignity. I understand. I don't I don't want you dressing up as like David Knight not going to happen showing up not going to happen at the court. But yeah, we're going to be in Austin for an extended stay over the course of the trial and ideally providing daily updates on the goings on the ideal situation. So in theory, we won't have regular episodes during that time. It will be a two week mini series essentially of our adventure in Austin at the trial. Yeah. It'll be interesting. Yeah. Well, we've never done that before. No, we have not. It's uncharted territory. It is a great wide
Starting point is 00:07:29 open. Yeah. And we'll see if it's a complete disaster. It may it might be. Yeah. I mean, we'll just do it so where you'll pretend that you play a clip, right? And I'll try and remember what it was Alex said, and I'll do the voice. There may be no talk about it like I didn't. There may be no clips. There's not going to be any clips. No. So yeah, that's stuff to look forward to. Yeah. There's some other stuff. I may do an episode about Russell Brand at some point. Still thinking about that. All things are possible. But yeah, this is this month is looking out in front of it is is. Yeah. Yeah. But when we look back at it, it'll be great. Or we will be dead by then. You know, who knows? It's a possibility. Yeah. So Jordan,
Starting point is 00:08:13 today, like I said, we got this episode to go over. But first, let's say hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Roger Stones or G. Janitor. Thank you so much. You are very much. And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix. All right. So the first thank you so much. You are now a technocrat to my wife. Can't remember what episode or shout out is on. So here you go, Kristen. Okay. So that's your technocrat. Right. And this other one. This is a correction. Okay. So in the last episode, we called this person a policy wonk. Oh, no. And they threatened legal action. Well, I mean, that is reasonable. They threatened to sick barns on me. That is in trouble. And so I have to say the Basque, you are now a technocrat.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners
Starting point is 00:10:12 yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on here. I'll be better tomorrow. I think that if tomorrow is the past, he's better than the present. Well, he will be better yesterday then. That's true. And tomorrow comes today. Right. And that's not going to be good. No. So we start off here and Alex is getting a little bit introspective about how he never does his job. Okay. Okay. I could appreciate it. 20 years, huh? Yeah. I could spend the next three hours on just four or five news stories that I have here in front of me.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Instead, I reviewed the articles I never got to in the last four days. I sat here and went through the stacks this week and there were over 200 news articles that I read and printed that I never covered on air. There were several hundred that we did cover on air. Absolutely not. There were not several hundred that he covered on air. I can't imagine him covering several hundred of anything on air. No. I do kind of appreciate that. I mean, one thing you could do is just be like, hey, it's a slow news day. We're going to catch up on things that slip through the cracks. Sure. Sure. Sure. That might be a more savvy way to present this than like,
Starting point is 00:11:35 hey, I got a lot of news to cover today, but I fucked up. It didn't cover 100 news stories in the last four days. I mean, explain to me at what point you decide I'm never going to cover more than 50 stories. Oh, man. Right. So then let's only print out 50 stories, man. What are we doing printing out 200 stories? You never need more than one page. You never need more than one page. You need one page that has a couple of talking points on it, a couple of headlines. Fucking he needs a vision board like a like in front of him with with copy and pasted or like a magazine articles like a ransom note in front of him that he can just read off of. Yeah. Or just the Drudge Reports front page. Yeah, that'll work too. Print that out and make it big. Yeah. So Alex has a
Starting point is 00:12:23 story out of the San Francisco Chronicle. This is a big, big, big news. Take this article from yesterday out of the San Francisco Chronicle. This is one of the ones he missed. Right. Right. But it says that the Bohemian Grove, Arnold Schwarzenegger was chosen as the heir apparent in the runoff race, the recall race that's coming up against Governor Gunn grab open borders, New World Order, Schill Davis. Is that his full name? That it talks about the Bohemian Grove and the Republican leaders national and state there in secret and that they have told the press that they want Arnold Schwarzenegger to run and that if he runs, that he's got their blessing. If not, there's a quote,
Starting point is 00:13:15 another liberal Republican that they want to run liberal Republican. This is where the bushes go. So I couldn't find this exact article that Alex is talking about in the San Francisco Chronicle, but I was able to find articles in the Chronicle from around this time that I do. I know what he's talking about. And it's basically that the former mayor of Los Angeles, Richard Reardon, he had said that he was going to run, but he wouldn't if Arnold ran. Right. And he is a more liberal Republican. That's what Alex is talking about. Right. And I guess this is around the same time that the Bohemian Club meets at the Grove. Sure. And so there's some word that maybe they wanted Arnold to run. Right. Some of the elites wanted Arnold to run. So this dude drops
Starting point is 00:13:58 out before maybe he necessarily even began campaigning. Reardon? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a mad dash for the governorship. Sure. Sure. Sure. At this point in time. I'm very excited about the fact that the recall election is about to happen in Alex's life because this was wild stuff. It was nuts. There were like 200 candidates. It was nuts. Yeah. Gary Coleman ran. It was absolutely nuts. Mary Kerry. I mean, yeah, it was one of the, it was one of those things where you're like, yeah, yeah, that is one of those uniquely Californian things for as much as Guy from Florida, et cetera. You know the rule. California has those completely different sets of things where you're like, no, that's, that's them. Didn't happen here in Illinois.
Starting point is 00:14:45 That's for sure. I think the recall election of 2003 is probably one of the more bizarre events of the state politic. It resembled more the wacky races. And it definitely is like, I can't wait to see it through Alex's eyes. I know, I know that he hates Arnold Schwarzenegger. I know that. Oh, he already sounds like it. I don't know what he thinks about Cruz Bustamante, but I know that he's a Democrat, so I'll probably hate him. I hope he tries to say his name at least once. I would love it. Cruz Bustamante. I don't know who Alex would back in this race, but he's gotta talk. Gary Coleman. Could be, could, could end up being a Coleman guy. Could be a Coleman guy. So yeah, this,
Starting point is 00:15:32 this really gets me going because, you know, like there's a lot of really dark topics and it's, it's sometimes hard to dwell on those too much. And this I think will be fairly silly. Love it. And Alex will be very mad about a very stuff for no reason. This is going to be great. So we, we have some predictions that Alex makes that I think are not very good. We're on the edge of war with North Korea. North Korea says that there's not a deal. They're going to go ahead and nuke us on September night. So he's got battle plans to launch an attack in October that he leaked to push North Korea into an escalation, which has now happened. If you believe these photos of the Saddam sons are real, I got a bridge. I want to sell you. They
Starting point is 00:16:16 wreak a big fake. I want that bridge. I want that bridge. Remember they claim they've killed a very good deal three separate times and they killed chemical Ali and he's still alive and I thought they'd found the body and his mindless psychological victories in this sports fan society. Alex is ramping up the idea of North Korea nuking us, which did not happen. And he's still insisting these pictures of Saddam sons and the whole thing is fake, which it was not. It does, it does make me laugh now to think back on how a lot of people were like North Korea has nukes, man. They're crazy. They could nuke us at any time. And now we live in 2022 and it's like they still couldn't shoot a rocket far enough to hit us with a nuke, not a chance. It's 20 years
Starting point is 00:17:03 later and there's no way they hit us with a nuke. I think you're probably right, but I also think that in these conversations, it's always best to approach with a little bit of I dare. I dare to nuke Chicago. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So this whole this whole California gubernatorial race is bringing out some demons and Alex and these demons are forcing him to attack one of his own. Sure. And by one of his own, I mean another bigot who yells on the radio. Oh, Michael Savage. That's the one. Yeah. And yes, Michael Savage, the beatnik super ultra liberal. So ultra liberal. He is able to clone conservatives in the liberal neocon minions. Wait, he's announced he'll be exploring an exploration. Yes. Another double speak exploring
Starting point is 00:17:51 an exploration of governor as independent. That will pull real conservative votes away and ensure that Davis stays in office again as the key operative. He is, he is there as the shield. It's plain as day. It's a political fact, folks. Do the math. We'll be right back. Yeah. So Michael Savage, I guess, is talking shit about considering running. And so now Alex has decided that not, I mean, at this point in his career, Alex does hate Michael Savage and he thinks he's a big old liberal. So he's the spoiler. He's going to come in and suck the conservative votes out and make it so Cruz Bustamante wins. Using his liberal lies that he's pretending to be. He's going to go. Trotsky lies. Right. And they're going to be conservatives
Starting point is 00:18:41 because the conservatives wouldn't support Republicans because Republicans are clearly liberals and Democrats are fucking. I mean, they're not demons yet. No, that's true. What are Democrats now? Well, demons aren't really in play. Not yet. It looks silly if you were yelling about that in 2003. Yeah, there's 200 people trying to become California governor. You can't be talking about demons. There's 200 people trying to become the governor of California. And there's 500 people who have declared themselves the president of Texas. That's true. She is out of control. That's true. You got to get that under handle first. Yeah. So I just pulled this next clip because I think it could like legitimately,
Starting point is 00:19:14 this could be played any year on Alex's show and you wouldn't be able to be like, well, it seems out of place. I cannot stress enough the critical juncture we have all reached in history. We have America's liberties and freedoms being put into a woodchipper. That doesn't mean anything. Yeah, it could be. He says in 2003, 2004, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, absolutely down to the present day. It's always the case. We're at the most critical juncture of all time. And we could even pick like whatever bigotry of the day we're dealing with. Just pick a year and he's like, make a cake. That'll be the end of every big destroying a constitution. I saw a meme. Obamacare. That's going to cause, you know, it doesn't matter,
Starting point is 00:20:01 everything, anything. Yeah. It's just a shocking realization of like the triviality of what he talks about. Yeah. Mixed in with the very serious and real things that have consequences like that big tree. Right. Right. It's just a little bit disheartening, just, you know, just seeing the present mirrored so clearly in the past of this is the most important thing ever. You don't even he doesn't know what he was talking about there. He was talking about we're at a critical juncture. Come on, man. So anyway, it's the United States liberties. What about him? Woodchipper? America's being destroyed. We see the size of government growing at record rates. We have a $43 trillion deficit, according to the Dallas Morning News
Starting point is 00:20:49 and Top Economist. We have a neo conservative movement viciously attacking our Second Amendment rights, savaging our borders, savaging our trips, assigning on the huge UN treaties while putting out the rhetoric that they're against the UN and fooling shallow minded conservatives. We're in the midst of a massive snake attack, ladies and gentlemen. Again, if this was a military base, we're on fire. The buildings are shattered wrecks. Scroon bodies are everywhere. A few of us are stumbling around with shrapnel holes and blood streaming. Okay. And our compadres who should be awakened and then should be aware of what's happening are walking around with with bloody faces saying, I love George Bush as capital ships of the neocon army sit off at a
Starting point is 00:21:54 distance blasting what's left of America. And again, as America is blown to bits figuratively literally, the neo dance around saying, Oh, it's mana from heaven. Thank you so much. I think there's such a thing as getting lost in a metaphor. You know, like, I think sometimes you can hear somebody speak so eloquently that you're like, Oh, I just got caught up in that. Yeah. Yeah. This is that. But the reverse caught up in the confusion. Yeah, I see. I feel like he got caught up in a in the story. He thought he was making a metaphor, right? And then he was like, actually, I kind of really like this story. And I also want it to be literally so he gets into this movie mode where he's like, Oh, man, these people with blood streaming down their faces saying, I love George
Starting point is 00:22:42 Bush. Like, what does that mean? What is that an allegory for? Well, it's the mindless neocons who have blood on their face. I see that's again an issue for me. It's literal. He said it's figurative and literal. It seems like you think they're saying it if they've got blood all over their face, you know, I love George Bush. That's a lot of blood. Tank of blood. Yeah. That's where it went with it. Okay, all right. So the group these these folks who are the enemies, according to Alex, they're basically America. Yeah, but they're not America. They're hiding as America. Okay. Mushroom clouds are enveloping everything that our veterans have fought and died for. What the flag symbolizes is being trashed and flushed down the toilet.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And the enemy's uniform is the American flag as they run around butchering the country, their uniforms are the American flag. It's an enemy sneak attack. Wolves and sheeps clothing, Trojan horse camouflage made a the enemies in our uniforms. Watch out. We're under attack. There's another one. Get down. It's happening right now. I think Alex is into flights of fancy today. I mean, he's having a little fun. Yeah, he's going to places. There's the life. Yeah, within his bones. Yeah, that's for sure. He's doing he's doing character work. Oh my God, wait until a little bit later. He gets deep into a character. Okay, he does like he does a one man show. It's nuts. All right, I'm going to do Mark Twain. I think there's there's trouble with the
Starting point is 00:24:34 enemy's uniform is the American flag. I think I think when you establish that is kind of your mindset, you basically get to just randomly choose who your enemy is. Well, I mean, it does seem like what he's saying is everyone is possibly behind the attack on you personally. So you should never be confident unless they also love me. But even if they love me, they could be lying to you. Anybody who expresses like patriotism or love of country is probably suspect if they're not weirdos like me. Strangely enough, the only people you can trust have declared themselves king of Texas. So Michael Savage also you can't trust. He's an enemy of the beatniks. I actually tuned into here Lord Savage, Mr. Put anyone that disagrees with the government in a forced labor camp,
Starting point is 00:25:26 take their assets. Disagreeing with the government is treason. And again, it was a big San Jose Mercury news story with him with the big Karl Marx beard in the beatnik outfit. I mean, you talk about trash or the earth folks. The guy wrote books about how wonderful the Sovietization of America would be. He loved Alan Ginsburg, who I don't need to comment about. I mean, just as sick as it gets. Oh, wrote poems about how wonderful Moloch is. I've got to add that part. And that's what you took away from getting everything you want to hear. He says the right things on a bunch of issues, but then always slides the poison in. Patriot acts good, blah, blah, blah, Bush is okay. He said he's thinking about running for governor as an independent.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Now he was going to run as a Republican and really carry out those policies that say, okay, let's see if he does it once he gets elected, not predict he wouldn't. He would stall the whole agenda. Because the guy's an operative folks, very sophisticated. This is an accusation of the savage knowingly being in on this operation. Right. He's an operative. He's not just somebody who's, you know, not doing the right thing, according to Alex. No, it's not someone who's misguided. It's in on a conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah. He's a little silly. He's now obviously his radio show comes first, of course, but in 20 years before this in the early 80s. Okay. The CIA came to Michael Savage while he was a beatnik and they were like, man,
Starting point is 00:26:58 you got to get out of this. He might have been like writing diet books at that point. Okay. Well, then man, you got to get out of this diet game. Right. All right. Get into the radio industry. Get famous enough to where you can run for governor during one of the most chaotic times that anybody's ever run for governor of California. Then you'll be able to get the conservative. What is the plan? I don't, I mean, it's basically that I forgot what the end goal is to get cruising. But here's the problem. Right. There's no demons. Well, Alex seems to think that Gray Davis can win after he's been recalled. Right. But he does. He's not running in the recall election. Right. Because he's been recalled. Right. He is out and there's a special election to
Starting point is 00:27:48 replace him. Yeah. And so Alex seems to think that like Arnold is going to run and then Savage will run and suck the Republican votes away from him. So the two of them will cancel each other out and Gray Davis will stay in office. All right. That's kind of the best I can do for you in terms of what I think. Davis cannot stay in office. I believe so. I can't remember if it was a choice or if he just actually couldn't. Yeah. I think it's a choice. Newsom ran again whenever he got, but he didn't get recalled. Oh, that's true. They were go. They were threatening to recall. Yeah. You're right. I know I am. I am. I wish I had a better understanding of that. But I think that if you get recalled, you don't end up in the next election. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:28 But anyway, Alex thinks that Gray Davis is going to win. And I mean, he's wrong. But there is another aspect to this. So Michael Savage is the fly in the ointment, as it were. Yes. But there's another guy who is just like that. That's the real hardcore political facts. Just like it turned out Ross Perot was having meetings with Hillary Clinton and Mill Clinton. He shows up. It looked like Bush was going to win. They wanted to have this staged event. They wanted to have the liberal agenda in there on the surface so that later they could have the savior Republican neocon revolution was all scripted out to pull your votes away. Of course, Mr. Doesn't like big government made his first big contract Ross Perot with EDS with
Starting point is 00:29:18 Nelson Rockefeller in New York, administering social security and state welfare and bunch of other CIA contracts. He was going to get the contract for the national health care system. And so as soon as he started winning in the polls, he acted all crazy and said, I'm quitting and did all this and then jump back in when it looked like Bush might win. Is that what he did? It's all staged people. Is it? And so you see the key little neocon jumping in to make sure a real Republican doesn't win. This is definitely not what Alex thinks now. No. In more recent times, Alex is a completely contradictory narrative about Ross Perot. In the present, Alex definitely has said that Perot was the first attempt at a Trump-like
Starting point is 00:30:03 president and he would have won, but the globalists threatened his family so he bowed out of the race. It's so bizarre how you go back in history and listen to his show and there are these blatant substantive contradictions. In 2003, Alex knows that Michael Savage is a knowing shill for the globalists, trying to suck votes away from a real conservative in the California gubernatorial race. But a few years later, Alex will swear that he's one of the legends of the patriot movement and he's been a trailblazer for all these years. He's the one who changed the game, man. In 2003, Alex knows that Ross Perot was working with Bush and Clinton to rig that election, but in following years, he won't know this anymore. And in fact, he knows the opposite to be true.
Starting point is 00:30:42 The reason there are these absurd contradictions is because Alex is just making up reality to suit whatever he wants to be true at the moment. Whatever makes his job easier and makes him more money is true. In 2003, Savage didn't want anything to do with Alex, so he was the enemy. In later years, Savage was willing to guest on Alex's show and talk shit about Obama, so he became a legend. In 2003, Alex had no reason to support any politician other than Ron Paul, so Perot could be a bad guy. In later years, Alex saw how useful Perot's story could be to reinforce the idea that the system was out to get Trump, so he rewrote his narrative to be that Perot was a noble hero who the globalists forced out of the race. None of this means anything
Starting point is 00:31:20 to him. It's just an exercise in radicalizing people further to the right, consistently insisting that disaster is right around the corner and then offering no real solution other than tuning into Alex's show tomorrow to see what you should be afraid of. Yeah, that's dumb. Yeah, I think people like Alex should not be allowed to talk about people like Ross Perot, just because you're gonna make up bullshit and it's never going to be as interesting as the reality of what Ross Perot was. So you want him to keep Ross Perot's name out his mouth? Keep Ross Perot's name out, unless you're just telling interesting stories about Ross Perot, which are always, hey, Ross Perot gave Bernie Sanders a sword. Of course he did. But what is a more interesting
Starting point is 00:31:58 story than one that's not true? I mean, the ones that he did do where he's like, hey, I'm gonna get like 20 guys together and we're gonna overthrow the guy. Like, I mean, he's out of his mind. Ross Perot is crazy. He's the best. Hross. Yeah, so these are just little fingerprints of like, wow, your story is completely different across time. I wonder why that is. Oh, wait, it's super fucking obvious. Doesn't matter today. So Alex thinks that Savage is going to make it so great Davis wins. They got Savage in there, Mr. Weiner. Mr. Michael Weiner, the beat Nick guru. I mean, we're talking top level folks, the people that helped bring down the younger generation that helped start the sixties right now. I mean, these are the technicians. They're
Starting point is 00:32:44 back again. The Daddy O is back and he's going to be the independent, ensuring that the real hardcore conservatives that are fooled by Mr. Weiner and all his fake names and the rest of it will not vote for the real Republicans. And so you're going to end up with Davis or Swartz and Eger or one of these other liberals. And it's in your face. It's as clear as the nose on my face, a five year old with basic Machiavellian political understanding, what doesn't even take that a four year old could figure this out. But you know what, they're going to love it. They're going to love it. And Davis is going to stay in office. He's not. So Alex at the middle says it's going to be great Davis or Swartz and
Starting point is 00:33:30 Eger or one of these liberals. But then the end more specific, it's going to be Davis and it ain't it is not. But yeah, I like the I like the way that he he's a stickler for specificity. A five year old with Machiavellian understanding. No, no, no, no, no. A four year old is such a fun. I do love that. Listen, any five year old rocket scientists could understand this rocket science. Any five year old that's read the prince is going to be able to handle this shit. Any five year old with a beyond I guess master's degree level education is going to be able to understand this obviously. No, no, no, no. Come on. It's a four year old three year olds with a master's degree. Don't understand shit. It's real bizarre,
Starting point is 00:34:19 but this is so consistent on this episode that Savage is going to be this guy who ruins the chances of an actual conservative winning. Right. I mean, I think that the writing is on the wall for the most part that like there's going to be a circus. It's going to be nonsense. And Schwarzenegger is probably going to win. It seemed that way. I did feel like everybody was kind of almost treating the idea of Arnold winning as both an insane thought and an inevitable one. You know, everybody was like, there's no way that Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to be our governor. It's Arnold Schwarzenegger. I mean, it's Arnold. I mean, he's got 40% of the vote. So I guess he's going to be our governor. So Alex has, uh, I don't know how to,
Starting point is 00:35:02 I don't know how to say this. I don't, uh, the, uh, the Kobe Bryant, uh, story, uh, sexual assault story has, uh, has, has come out. This was a long time ago. And so Alex has some thoughts on it. I'm going to present this here. Also, I'm getting, I mean, it must be a hundred emails a day, faxes, calls about Colby Bryant. I'm not going to discuss it on my show. All right. Come on, man. I think from the evidence and with my instincts that the guy's innocent, okay. I'm not defending the tracks that's in the NBA or the NFL or any of these big sports. They're a bunch of gang members on power trips. They're not role models. Oh boy. I mean, you know, it's crazy when your misogyny trumps your bigotry. It's, but they're somehow both in the same sentence. Yeah. I don't, I don't
Starting point is 00:35:59 know how to, I don't know how to handle that response. I mean, that's bananas. I don't, I don't believe her. Now I hate all black people. What? What did you just say? As a knee jerk. I don't, I think this woman is lying. Also, if I were ever incredibly accused of that, obviously all women are liars, but also, you know, I hate all black people. It's a difficult conundrum for Alex Jones. Yeah. Very, very bizarre. I think that if his whole thing was like, I'm not going to talk about this, you shouldn't have brought it up because then you just, you know, showed some misogyny and racism quite clearly. Really can't think of a worse possible take on that. Should have just not talked about it like you planned to, Alex. That was about as bad as it gets.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Kind of dumb. Yeah. Yeah. So there's some other things that Alex is only talking about because he has to. Sure. He doesn't want to. Sure. Yeah. He wouldn't talk about this recall election at all. He's going to get through hundreds of stories. The only reason I talked about the gubernatorial recall and the political jockeying and jousting and positioning that's going on in California is because it's an illustration of how politics really operate in this corrupt, decadent phase in this decline of our civilization. That's why I spent time on it. The only reason I'll talk about these Saddam son's photos is because they're obviously fakes. Jesus. That is a breathtakingly embarrassing clip. You have Alex rationalizing his choice to cover two
Starting point is 00:37:29 stories that he feels are otherwise beneath him and he's totally wrong about both of them. He's wrong that Saddam son's deaths were faked, but he's actually way more wrong about the recall race. He's more wrong there because he's wrong conceptually, not just factually. Alex has decided that this thing that he's imagining will happen is a perfect summation of the way our political system is corrupt. But that thing he's imagining wasn't real. It didn't happen. Yeah. Arnold beat Cruz Bustamante by 17% and there was no real spoiler. No other Democrat or Republican in the race would have greatly affected the outcome if they weren't in it and Savage didn't even run. He was just talking shit. The thing that Alex is imagining will happen is a perfect summation
Starting point is 00:38:11 of how Alex imagines the political system works, but none of this is connected to reality. Right. Right. Right. He's very bad at this. It does seem like he's making up stories and then being like, see, that's how the stories work. Why does a reality work like that? Obviously it does. Well, it does. You're just not seeing behind the scenes. You're not. You're looking at the obvious. I'm looking at what's underneath. You know, the made up stuff. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, there's some, some more prediction kind of stuff. Get back to a little bit of North Korea predicting. Sure. And I mean, like, you know, Alex is 99% right about his predictions, except for the ones that he just kind of ignores and pretends he didn't make. And I think you're, I think you're
Starting point is 00:38:57 going to see a rampant strike by North Korea or the globalist are going to carry one out and say North Korea did it will be a national draft and stated for North Korea mass arrest. There will be US cities will be vaporized. And then out of this, the government will become our leaders. Total worship of government will begin mass mobilization, youth in black uniforms in youth organizations marching giant flags everywhere. A pyramid all seeing I assembles on television. Sorry, what information awareness network symbol. It's going to be a running man's society out of World War three folks. And that's the plan folks. That's what the CFR and PNAC and all of them said. So that's the plan.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And the PNAC documents said that North Korea was going to launch a preemptive strike. Preemptive being I assuming I assume because they think we're going to strike them. Yeah, because Rumsfeld's been talking shit. Right. Right. Right. So Rumsfeld is planning to strike North Korea. Right. And North Korea is like, we can't allow that to happen. Yeah. So they're going to preemptive strike us with missiles that again, cannot reach our shores whatsoever. But that's why there's the caveat that maybe it'll be the globalist's false flag United States sure in order to make it look like North Korea did it in order to get a draft in place now. That's where I'm struggling in black uniforms. Explain to me diamonds and pyramids
Starting point is 00:40:25 on the TV like just population wise. Explain to me why we would need a military draft to fight only North Korea. I can't. I guess conceivably Alex is imagining things breaking down on like a half of the world versus the other half. I mean that like it would have to spiral out into North Korea to China to etc. Right. I would have to assume that goes. Yeah, because it's I wouldn't just be North Korea. It's not like it's not like the government's like, listen, if we draft all the men, then we can just literally occupy all of the territory will stand arm in arm and we will stand over all of North Korea. I don't think that's the plan. Okay. But yeah, youth and black uniforms. Sure. Pyramids. Yep. Cool. Man, I can't believe that they work together with the
Starting point is 00:41:12 Democrats 20 years later to get Trump out of office. Yeah, with those fake ballots, fake ballots is crazy. They've changed a lot too. Well, to be fair, this was when King John ill was around. Right. So yeah, that was his dad. Here's where Alex does his one man show. This is nonsense. Okay. I mean, you think about it when they blow a city folks, it's going to be just government worship. Oh, God, I didn't do anything. Just keep me safe. My pension funds gone. Oh, thank you for putting $200 a month on my on my credit on my little driver's license that just so happened to have this credit card function already embedded eight years ago on it. Oh, it's okay. I lost my pension fund and I've got to work in one of the work
Starting point is 00:41:57 upgrades digging ditches and sure the officer slap us around a little bit. But you know, they're just trying to keep us safe after after what happened after the enemy released smallpox. And then we learned that the militias and the ultra right wingers have been working with al Qaeda and Saddam all along and have been working for Kim Jong-il. And I'm just so glad the president's moving hard and fast and he nuked him. He nuked Syria. He nuked Iran. He nuked North Korea and Putin's joined us in the fight and our troops are died on overseas being overrun in some areas. I'm glad they I'm glad they brought in you and forces to help. It's been tough. This is less subtle than rent. I lost family in Cleveland when the bomb went off. Shut up. Arrest my neighbor.
Starting point is 00:42:48 He's against the homeland. I want to wear a uniform. I want to join. I want an armband. Thanks for my submachine gun, captain. What do I do for America? You get out there and you report anybody that gives us a problem. By the way, I want to take over my neighbor's business. You want to help me? You want to be the manager of it? Sure. Sure. The economy's bad now. I'll do anything for money. Good. You've just joined the homeland. You're going to see it. You're going to see it unless we get the word out now. It's all over, folks. It's all over. You're going to see all that happen unless we get the word out that the globalist are orchestrating these events. All right, we'll come back and take calls, I promise. He's been teasing. He's going to go to
Starting point is 00:43:38 calls for a while. Instead, you got to do that. Two-man, two-man, two-minute act out. Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune, my friend. Dear God, or just sleep. I kept that dream. I kept thinking like just like someone should just interrupt me like Alex, you all right? Alex, this is not. You're not going well. Do you think you're going to dig your way out of this hole? Do you think that second character is going to help? Was that the one that was going to save it? The captain who wants to take over his neighbor's business specifically. Yeah, it's great. It's great that this new character is coming in. It's very clear motivations. I don't know if I could think of an improv character that somebody's
Starting point is 00:44:19 created to play with themselves that has gone worse than that. He's a bad partner for himself. But admirable that there is like a clear want. That is true. I want to take over my neighbor's business. It's difficult. Do you want to help other character in my head? Right. Yes, there is that. Del Close would appreciate that part. Yeah, that that was tough. That was that was bizarre. Brutal. I'm not sure there are many instances that I can recall of Alex doing multiple characters for that long. That was like three minutes long. It was, it was something. So Alex does get to calls. Okay. And a good bit of the show is calls. And this first guy asks a question about a story that you can very clearly tell Alex knows nothing about. It didn't go in any great detail, but it
Starting point is 00:45:11 was Paul Harvey. It almost had like the British might be bringing their act over here. Was Bush in the process of appointing a new secretary to the Navy? Secretary of the Navy? I had heard that, but but so well, the guy has was found dead. And Paul Harvey said that they're saying now didn't go into any detail just said that they're saying now that it was a self inflicted gunshot wound. Yeah, and you know, it's funny with the Dr. David Kelly situation, they just commonly report that Oh, yeah, suicide, despite the fact that everything points against suicide. There's a story about Colin McMillan is a man who Bush had nominated to be Secretary of the Navy who died by suicide while waiting for his confirmation by the Senate. People who knew him commented that he had a
Starting point is 00:46:01 recurrence of a cancer that he'd been struggling with and he thought that he'd actually beaten. And that was a possible contributing factor in his death. Right, right, right. Bigger picture here, though, you can see that Alex has absolutely no idea what this caller is talking about, but he can't let that be too obvious. He's supposed to know everything. So when this caller brings up a Navy secretary nominee dying by suicide, who Alex has never heard of, Alex pivots by rambling about David Kelly, the UN weapons inspector who died by suicide recently, though Alex has convinced himself it's a conspiracy or all this, of course, Alex does a little hand waving tricks like this in order to obscure from his audience that he has no idea what people are talking about a lot of
Starting point is 00:46:38 the time when they bring up news stories. But by all accounts, he should know all these stories. It seems like it would be a big story. It seems like it would be at least one of his 200 story stacks or whatever. Yeah, it should be in there. I mean, it doesn't mean he's going to get to it. But the point of having all of those stacks would ostensibly be to demonstrate that he has read all of this information, thus capable of recalling it to you should you so call it. It's meant to show that. Yes, exactly. It's meant to show the appearance that he is the impression of that. So I got got a call who like the Ann Coulter interview. Sure. Very, very big theme on Alex's show is a suggestion of who else Alex should have on screeching crows. I enjoyed when you had
Starting point is 00:47:24 Ann Coulter and exposure to neocon and I had more neocons coming on. I had an idea of Al Franken might be a good guess. He's got a book out and I'd be at the former liberal. It would be nice to, you know, we think we're done with the Clintons, but I hear in Hillary's name being tossed around. It's kind of frightening. Oh, yeah, the old neocons are former liberals. And sure, I formally ran the fourth international as a communist agent, but I'm a neocon. Now, go ahead and give me your gun. You can trust me. Is that Al Franken? Yeah, is Al Franken a former liberal in 2003? Don't think so. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if this the caller was saying that I think he was a former liberal. That's kind of what I think. That's what I was getting. That's
Starting point is 00:48:09 not the direction I sensed. Alex was going with. No, no. I think he might have had an article about Al Franken in that stack. Right. Right. You also, I mean, I think that would be a very interesting dynamic. Al Franken and Alex Jones. I don't know. I think, and I even think I remember the book he had out about that, which is like a big fat idiot. Yeah. It's either that one or lying lies and the lying liars who tell them are one of those books. Yeah. It's like that. That was a extreme bullshit polemic. You know, like, yeah, I remember he had a book that my dad had that I really enjoyed. It was that why not me? It was the fictitious sort of travel log of his run for president. Uh-huh. And it's like the run never happened. It's just a humor book about the
Starting point is 00:48:58 nonsensical goings on. I don't want to revisit that book, lest it not be as funny as I remember it being when I read it as a kid. I don't want to revisit Dave Barry. I don't want to revisit Dave Barry ever. Yeah. Yeah. Just in case. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I would like to see that interview if it ever I would be happy with that. That could happen now. It would be real weird. Yeah. So this caller wants the buzzword here is I want to partake. I want to partake in the info war. Hi, Alex. This is Dave. Alex, I'm a hair of your programmer of your program, but I like to say I feel I can't move right here. I'm just hearing everything. I would like to partake in this stuff. And I think all your all your hearers are the same thing. They're hearing this all from you
Starting point is 00:49:50 and they all like to partake. It seems like Alex that we need an agenda here. We need a plan. Is there you're giving out all this information, but we need to start doing things. Hey, tell you what, stay there. I'll come back to you, Dave and others stay with us. We'll be right back with real weird to call people hearers all the hearers of such a that made me that creeps me out instantly. Definitely. That was an instantly creepy thing to say. Definitely weird. That's weird. Asking Alex for advice is a dead end. We know we know for sure dead end. Yep. Tell more people about info wars. I would like to partake in the info war instead of being a hearer. Man, that's quasi religious speak. So Alex does come back and he does give some advice and pay attention to some
Starting point is 00:50:40 of this advice because it feels like he's just saying be me, which is maybe not possible. Dave in Virginia calls in and says, you know, I feel like I'm a spectator. I'm partaking of this. You know, I'm hearing it, but I'm not doing anything. I want to plan Dave from Virginia says, well, Dave treat him like a second issue, the second amendment, the open borders, the environmental land grabbing that's going on and go out and get involved in that issue and meet like minded people and then educate them on other issues, become a leader, put up a website, get an access TV show, get a commercial radio show, start your own organization. It's millions of us doing small things can move mountains together. Many hands make light work. Does that answer
Starting point is 00:51:37 your question? No, that's a good answer. It's not a good answer. No, it is not a good answer. I don't from everything I can tell about this Dave character. I don't know if I'd like him on access TV or the radio. No, hello to my hearers. Hear me, hear me all my hearers. What is wrong with you? Here's how you partake. No, I don't want to partake of your hearing. Yeah, I think that's a that's a bit of advice that is useless to anyone except for Alex. And even if Alex got that advice when he was younger, it would been useless to him get a massive influx of cash from your dad by your way into a public access sphere. Make sure that you meet a weirdo from Minnesota who sells gold. Yep. Yep. Who's desperate for somebody to be his pitch man. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Right. Right. Or find your own gold man. I'm sure that there's another. Listen, let's be honest. He's not the only guy trying to build people with fake gold. No, but it's important that your gold guy is also philosophically a complete weirdo libertarian. Yes. Yeah. That's super important. That is tougher to find. Yeah, they're still there. You need to have philosophical allegiance with your gold scam guy. So look, some of these pieces of advice are like, yeah, maybe that's good, you know, each one to each one kind of stuff. Sure. But what about having meetings? What about getting together and organizing? Ooh, you know, like 20 years in the future, I'll tell you what, that could be used against you. Well, apparently Alex isn't so into it in the past.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah, that's that's a good answer. But this stuff is coming too fast. And I really think that we need to maybe we can first come together first, and then we can make plans. I think let's say 10,000 of us try to meet and come together. A police car pulls up, drops off a provocateur, the provocateur walks in, starts a fistfight, the police have riot police waiting, they run in and break your jaws and then call your terrorist on the news. We first have to expose in that town the fact that the government will provocateur our political meetings and expose how they've done in the past in other cities. You first got to educate people at the grassroots level and get a sheriff, a county commissioner elected that supports your ideals, then move on from the
Starting point is 00:53:58 grassroots level. So you can't have meetings, you can't have political meetings, right? Tell you have enough awareness that the man is going to jam up your political meetings, right? But in order to get to the point where you can have political meetings, you first have to elect a sheriff, right, county commissioner or something like that without any kind of organizing, apparently. Right. Can't have any meetings because it's not just like a 10,000 person meeting. Alex and him are talking about it. They're talking about like, I don't know, little meetings too. Yeah, I mean, 20, 30 people get together. Like the Bible study. Let me 10,000. What are you going to achieve at a meeting of 10,000 people? I don't know. I don't
Starting point is 00:54:35 know, but that's kind of how Alex thinks. You know, it's got to be a big meeting. Otherwise, what's the point? I mean, obviously what he's saying is first you need to light the groundwork for plausible deniability should anybody that you go to a meeting with cause any terrorist act. Then you can say to them that no, no, no, that was an agent provocateur. Definitely not somebody carrying out the thing that we went to the meeting to do. And it would be good if you have some kind of institutional support. You're going to need the violence of the state to reinforce your back. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Listen, if you were going to do, if he's like, here's how you start a terror cell. It's useless. I mean, it's just useless advice. Your good way to get a sheriff
Starting point is 00:55:15 elected would be to organize and have some political action for the sheriff. But if you're not allowed to do that until you get the sheriff elected, it seems like this is just another path towards not being able to move as the scholar said. Right. I mean, isn't he kind of reinforcing the idea that you can change things through electoral action, thus making the need for violence? You know, no. Oh, never mind them. No, he's not. I mean, you should vote for your local sheriff. But that comes later. That's true. Wait, no, that comes first. You got to get the sheriff first. But you need to wake up enough people to get the sheriff elected. But you can't meet. Right. God damn, that's going to be tough. It is. Yeah, we got a lot of struggles
Starting point is 00:55:59 to get this one going. Also, don't put up any signs for the sheriff because that could be a false flag thing. Absolutely. Then they'll, then the government, the current sheriff is going to come to your house. Jam. Yeah. Jam. Yeah. Yep. Makes sense. Alex gets another call. This guy is an artist. Let's talk to Paul and Paul, you're calling in from New York. Good to hear from you. What's going on? I just want to let you know that we're going to be releasing our fourth disc, August 9th at an event called the belief festival here in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Any of your listeners in the track state area that would like to come out and check it out at pokerface.com. For those that don't know, you, you guys have a rock band that's got great music that exposes
Starting point is 00:56:40 the new world order. So you're going to be having another event out there exposing the globalist. What type of response are you getting from the young people? The revenue stuff, everything, everybody from seven to 70. Hell yeah. They love them. So this is a band called poker face poker face. I found the band's website. Pre Lady Gaga, right? Yes. Yes. Quite a bit. Yeah. And I actually found a video of them playing at that festival that they're plugging. Oh, no. Oh, don't it's kind of quaint that Alex is hyping up this kind of a plug on the show. It's not a large gig or anything. It seems like maybe elevated battle of the bands type type of gig, but everybody from seven to 70 did enjoy it. I don't know. I didn't see many shots of an
Starting point is 00:57:21 audience. That's trouble. It's in Bethlehem PA. So this caller Paul, I know because he said his name, I know that he is the lead singer of the outfit. So he also plays guitar and keyboards. His bio is pretty sweet on the website. Okay. Paul is the heart soul songwriting social guru that poker face is. Paul is the writer of this biography. I'm going to read that to you again. I didn't misread this. Paul is the heart soul songwriting social guru that poker face is. Heart comma soul. Yes. Comma songwriting social guru. No commas or anything. Okay. Songwriting social guru that poker face is is. Yep. That's bad grammar. That's not great. He is and always has been capable of immense insight and focus, the source of which is his reverence and respect for
Starting point is 00:58:14 all things true and willingness to fight against those that are unjust based upon the writing of his biography. I am not trusting the writing of his songs. The other people in the band have also some silly bios, but we're not going to not going to drag them into this. Oh, that's nice. They didn't call it. No, it's not their fault, but Alex apparently is familiar with them. Yeah, that why I thought he was like just a random dude trying to get his band's name out there on air, just like, haha, surprise. I called in seemed very casual about the way he made this announcement. Totally. Yeah, there's some familiarity between them. And so Alex wants to know, hey man, tell me about your band and know how you feeling about the world. What? Well,
Starting point is 00:58:52 that's exciting. What do you think about all the developments in the world today? I think terrorism is right on right on target with the 1962 report called the iron mountain report. I think I'm Mr. Kissing. I think Mr. Kissinger had a little hand in that one. Yeah, I think terrorism is everything they needed it to be to bring a police state here to America. Scarerism. Well, I'm hearing that. I'm a hearer of his scarerism. So it's pretty impressive that this rock and roll caller is asked about what he thinks about the state of the world, and he quickly cites the report from iron mountain, which is a fake document. It was a satirical piece written by a guy named Leonard Lewin meant to skewer how think tanks operate
Starting point is 00:59:31 and imagined a secret group who are tasked with figuring out what the downsides of a state of peace would be for the United States. Their ultimate conclusion was that peace is not good for the continuance of our system, particularly our economy. And thus it's not a desirable state to pursue. That's the document. It's fake. Right. The Liberty Lobby run by racist Nazi Willis Carto published the text pretending that it was real and a government document. And in that case, you know, you'd be able to publish it. But unfortunately, it's owned by somebody. So they got sued by Lewin and ultimately settled the case out of court. Conspiracy dum-dums like this rock and roll caller, Alex and even Bill Cooper cling to the idea that the text is real
Starting point is 01:00:08 because it matches their worldview really well. Right. So that kind of means it must be true and not a piece of satirical skewering of think tank culture. Absolutely. Absolutely. And if you believe it's real, have I got an Irish baby for you to eat? Hey, what about a neighbor? Hey, they're delicious. So, um, Alex, their businesses too. Alex is beginning these calls and they're all pretty positive info wars fans. You know, I think he wants to spice things up a little bit. So he essentially begs people who disagree to call in. But I do want to leave a liner to open for anybody that disagrees with us because here we are going out on the AM and FM dial from Austin, Texas to Denver, Colorado to Albuquerque, New Mexico to Rochester, New York, Pensacola, Florida.
Starting point is 01:00:59 If you disagree with me or anything I'm saying, go ahead, hit me with your best shot. 1-800-259-9231. This does not turn into anything. No, but he disagrees calls in. Damn it. Yeah, that would have been full. But I mean, how seldom is that going to happen? Almost never. Who's listening that disagrees with Alex in 2003 who is motivated enough to call? I mean, we had the Canadian guy, right? And that was, he disagreed in the wrong way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be, yeah, if you disagree with Alex in a more extreme position, you're already motivated enough to get on a phone with Alex. Sure. You're probably like the disagreements that he's likely to get are not going to be thoughtful criticisms. They're going to be like, why don't you support the war? Right,
Starting point is 01:01:47 right, right. That kind of stuff. And that's, that's obviously you'd want to bait that into coming at you. And the people who are, you know, who would ideologically disagree with him are most likely listening for entertainment value to laugh at the lunatic. Right. You wouldn't want to suggest yourself to arguing with him. Yeah, you're not going to call in and be like, hey, man, you're you're so stupid. Odds are pretty low. Yeah. So another caller wants to talk a little bit more about this idea of organizing and how Alex seems to be pretty opposed to the idea. Right. And so Alex gets basically like into a state of like, okay, well, why don't you, you could go find like minded people. And of course we know where this road leads. Is there any way because your audience
Starting point is 01:02:30 is the most informative? They seem to be the smartest on the dial. Oh, of course. How can we have cellular areas where people who listen to you and agree with you can get together and start at the base to do things locally? Well, look, you're going to find like minded people who already see a lot of what's happening. It's not the whole picture in gun organizations in land rights organizations. You guys could call the local radio stations that carry the show. And you could show up at radio station meetings that I know that Dr. Wolf, the owner of the Sunshine Network has. You could go to his church. You could meet like minded people there. I mean, it's it's it's really pretty simple to do. You could start websites. You could
Starting point is 01:03:24 there's a lot of different things you can do to meet like minded people. I mean, this is a shameless plug, but it's true. If you buy one of my tyranny response t shirts that are navy blue with the yellow firefighter, you know, styled tyranny response team looks like a law enforcement shirt. And you walk down the street with that, you're going to meet like minded people. They're going to know what the tyranny response team is. You wear my shirt that has a picture of Hitler, Stalin and Mao on it. I have it and it says mass murderers agree gun control works. Politicians love disarmed peasants. You're going to meet like minded people wearing that shirt. So there are ways to meet like minded people. But are we talk? What are we talking about? Are we talking
Starting point is 01:04:09 about organizing or making friends? What is exactly the goal here? Because if you're going to like a gun rights group, I assume that you're just going to be engaging in gun rights activism. Yeah, you'd be part of the gun rights group. Right. You could probably meet some people who have other fringy ideas. Yeah, I would say siphon people away from the gun group for your own, your own cellular organization. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, what you want to do is you want to get a 10 to 15 cell people and you know, you don't know each other's names and you don't really have any direct communication. No, nothing on phones. Nothing on phones. Now, what if a narc is wearing a info war shirt? Oh, that can't be like minded person. No, not possible. Can't do it. He seems to
Starting point is 01:04:57 I don't it's all just the audience is so smart and they're so informed. There's no way they would allow a what I mean, what would you even call it a provocateur to get into their ranks? Yeah, because they're so aware of them. They don't sell to provocateurs. Those don't sell those shirts. You have to click the no. So this caller does have that shirt and I don't think it's it's worked. I do have the shirt and I do have your videos, but it does get to the point where um, you know, you try to educate your small group of friends and people that you care about, but then it just gets to a point where, you know, you sometimes they look at you with the glaze. A lot of times family doesn't respect themselves. They don't respect you.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And they think you're trying to put them down by warning them. No question. Or friends you've known all your life. I mean, Jesus Christ talked about, you know, people in his own town wouldn't listen to him. That's pretty, pretty abusive. Yep. Yep. Hey, uh, your family, the people who care about you as a person, uh, recognize that you're going down a weird path and they don't, they aren't going to follow you down there. Uh, you know, is it, uh, just weak, you know, what I worry they're just, they, you know, they hate themselves so they don't respect you. Yeah. Yeah. For your mental health, I think you should isolate yourself from them. That way they'll all be together with their social group that agrees
Starting point is 01:06:16 with each other. It's just like Christ did. And then you'll be alone by yourself only listening to me. But if you have those shirts that I've already sold you, you gotta buy more. Well, I mean, sure, you did already buy the shirt and it didn't help. And then there's this guy who runs a radio station. You should go to his church. Yeah. Yeah. That makes perfect sense. This is a perfect recipe. Go harass people at church. Terrible, terrible, um, suggestions. Yeah. Just real awful all the way around. Just start to finish. So Alex gets another caller and like, I think that guy who is the hearers guy, he had a weird energy, but this guy has also an energy that I found weirder. Brian, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Calling up here from Minnesota. First time caller been listening for a couple years now. And, um, I have a few things I want to touch on real quick. I'm a history major up here at a state college and I learned something really interesting the other day. You happen to know what the number one cash crop in Liberia is. Well, I know that, uh, just say no, why you can just say no in this order. Diamonds, gold, oil, but when you say cash crop, what is it? Opium is rubber trees. Yeah, I know they grow a little bit of opium in Africa, but not much. It's mainly in Central Asia and far East and Latin America, but, uh, rubber trees. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Liberia had not come up at all on this show until this point. Yeah. There is a civil war happening in Liberia. So there is reason to talk about it, but Alex has not up to this point. So it came quite out of left field for this caller to be like, Hey, what's the number one cash crop in Liberia? Yeah, I do get riddler vibes from him. Yes. I get very much like, I don't know if he's rid of me. This is not it for war's evil, but he's some kind of chaotic. Yeah. So Alex has claimed about minerals in Liberia that has nothing to do with anything because that's not what the caller was asking about. And on top of that, it's wrong. Alex is just making that up by far the mineral with the highest production and exportation from Liberia is iron ore. There's also gold
Starting point is 01:08:26 mines and diamond mines, but Liberia doesn't have a developed oil infrastructure at all. They import almost all of their oil. Good on Alex though to catch his mistake about the opium. That would have been embarrassing. It would have made me feel real stupid. Yeah. I think the oil is probably stupider. Yeah. Well, you know, but you just assume people have oil. True. True. I think they actually do. They'd have a certain amount of like promise or like there was some expectation and hope that there were they had some oil exploration that was optimistic, but it didn't didn't that might have been like this timeframe. But this caller, the weirdo riddler, he uses AOL. And apparently there's some information such a riddler thing to do. There's
Starting point is 01:09:11 some information that apparently you can't find on AOL. And then another thing, I am a subscriber to AOL, which I should have to stop immediately, but I was going to kick out of their headlines. I think it was three days ago, they had a thing, a big article on whether they were going to bring the draft back. And then today I turned it on and they had their headline, I believe it's there any AOL members could look at it, of how they have sent an undisclosed number of American troops to the seas around Liberia right now. But they won't tell us how many. Well, it's 4,800. 4,800. Yeah, maybe AOL won't tell you, but it's it's it's official in British papers. So a New York Times article said 2,300 troops were sent. Right. Alex is talking about a UK
Starting point is 01:09:53 article though. So, you know, that's not the times, that's for sure. Right. I found a Guardian article from an early July that said Bush was planning to send several hundred troops between 500 and a thousand. So that's not the source Alex is citing. I think that Alex just made up that number and then attributed to a meaninglessly vague source. Yeah. I think that's probably what we're seeing here. Yeah. Yeah. 4,800 seems like a round enough number that you could pull it, but also it's not 5,000. So you're not like guesstimating. You're like, oh, 4,800. That sounds like you know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. That's trustworthy. Yeah. It's trustworthy enough. I don't know. I don't know where it's coming from. The numbers that I found
Starting point is 01:10:33 were different. So there's a draft, man. It's coming. And it has not come. But apparently, it was already happening in 2003. All right. A couple of professions. No shit. Let me break this down for you with the draft. They already are reinstating it for engineers and medical workers. I see. That was in the Houston Chronicle. No, you do not see. Do not say you see. Also, they have two versions of a universal draft for men and women. But that's only 18 to 26. If you're older, you have to serve. And it says this. Where? Anti-terror reporting squads, tips, cattle tail groups. They're even going to give them, and I'm not kidding, sir, a gray uniform with a ID badge. Well, that's just insane. Oh, I mean, yes, it is. Right out of the
Starting point is 01:11:24 textbooks. And when they instate it, you're going to have, you know, all the people that ran the neighborhood associations, they're going to be in their little citizen core. And they already have it for kids in high school and quote, you'll have to volunteer. See? See? Yeah, none of this happened. I'm telling you right now, if you think, well, that sounds insane. Go with your gut, man. Go with your gut. That sounds insane. Yeah. So it is. I mean, look, you got to, you got to give it up to Alex for being just like so right all the time. You listen to a show from the past and it's like, oh my God, is this guy a fucking prophet? The last time an old person wearing a gray outfit and a badge harassed me. Snitch squads of old people. Snitched on me. I was, I think I was wearing
Starting point is 01:12:14 a diaper and I had pooped. And that was a couple of years ago. He got snitched on. So you got one last clip and this guy just like, this, this caller is afraid of what Alex is talking about with the draft because like he's of the age that he could get drafted. Right. He's an undergrad in history. Right. And so Alex is just trying to make him afraid. And then it dips into good old fashioned racism. Come on. The choice that like people in the draft age has is either you go and become a slave or you don't go and you become a slave. Well, actually we're all debt slaves already anyway. But I mean, what do you do? So well, you better fight it down. What you're doing is guess who's going to manage the new army and Navy? It was that United Nations. Well, I read the
Starting point is 01:13:02 articles two days ago. We posted them. It said quote, like they're uniformed black mask. Dinecore and other mercenaries that are paid $200,000 a year. Oh, great. So yeah. And they're also, according to Washington Times, hiring illegal aliens with criminal records to join the military. Just like Stalin did. I've seen that. Hey, you've seen that. Be scared. Be scared. Illegal immigrants are coming in and they're going to be in these, these new army squads that are going to keep the white Christian patriots down. And then there's going to be old people snitching on everybody. Oh my God, what terror. Everyone's going to be drafted. Man, that is, that is the worst Riddler I have seen in a long time. He didn't even
Starting point is 01:13:46 have any riddles and he just agreed with shit. That's terrible with Alex's weird fear, porn narratives. Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense. And also with these like fears of mercenaries, it's strange that Alex security is a guy from Blackwater. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have gone with mercenaries. Well, it's, it's, he's on the right side of that stuff in 2003. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's quite against these private armies. Right. No. Well, I mean, they're bad. They're bad. That didn't stick. No. So yeah, this, this 2003 excursion is, is a little bit, I don't know, a little soft, uneven. Yeah, definitely uneven. Yeah. It feels like we were a little all over the place on that episode. Boy, I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 01:14:34 and I think the reason is because it is. Yeah. We went to Liberia for no real reason. Nope. I did not come up earlier in the episode. Nope. The thing I think is it's Friday and Alex maybe wants to go home. Kind of get out of there. It's been a long day at the office. Yeah. I got Saturday off. I mean, like there's probably some gold there. There's, I mean, we're just going to take some nonsense calls. I'm going to yell about Michael Savage. It's great ruining the, the California gubernatorial race on behalf of globalists. Yeah. I guess Davis. I don't know. I don't know. I don't either, but I'm very excited to see where this goes because Michael isn't going to run. There isn't a draft that's going to be initiated. Nope.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Gray Davis isn't going to win. Nope. There's going to be chaos in that race. North Korea did nuke us. Alex is going to have to wrestle with the fact that they didn't. Right? The pictures of Saddam's sons. It's not going to come out. 100% real pictures. Yeah. There's a lot of bad stuff going on. And Alex has still not dealt with debathification. That's right. That's right. He still hasn't even bothered with it. I completely forgot that. Stop talking about the bath party being put back in charge. Of course he pretended that wasn't his thing. He hasn't, he hasn't talked about the actual reality. No. And he still can't, still can't pull off a metaphor not to save his life, but his character work, character work is top notch, top notch, that,
Starting point is 01:16:07 that cop who wants to steal his neighbor's business. That's the shit and needs help. I don't know what that other character is doing. I don't know. I don't know. So Jordan, we'll be back. Yes. With another episode, but until then we have a website. We do. It's knowledgefights.com. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's had knowledge underscore fight and I go to bet Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm the doctor of love. Not good. Nope. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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