Knowledge Fight - #671: April 13, 2022

Episode Date: April 18, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan reunite to check in on some recent Alex news.  In this installment, Alex covers the NY subway shooting, gives snake venom Covid theories a thumbs-down, and chats with champion-level weirdo Ali Alexander. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm Mr. Tim Cullen, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. Knowledge Fight. Knowledge Fight. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. It's like sit around where you put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today. Jordan, it's nice to be back in the saddle pleasure. My bright spot is a mixed bag. So here's the situation. You can't eat any more

fucking mustard. Well, I'm so sick of monsters. I have terrible news. In preparation for the year of the mustard, yes, I ordered a number of months. Yes, yes, you did. And I would like to say thank you. There are some people who have sent in mustard also. I don't like mustard. It turns out I like some mustard. Right. A number of yellow mustard. They're a little bit boring and plain, but I still like them. I like I have liked some Dijon mustard. Right. Some of them that I got way too Dijon. Don't like them. Do not like them at all. No. So this calculation was very off. Listen, once again, eyes being bigger than your stomach is I think a feature, not a bug. I got very enthusiastic about mustard based on a couple

of good ones that I tried. And now I the batting average is atrocious and I cannot imagine doing it. So I'm calling off. Yeah, I think that's wise. I think that's wise. However, yes, there is big news. Here's the here's the other way. We are replacing it. The year of the mustard out the window, right? God, but now you know what we're doing. What are we doing? The dreamy creamy summer. Okay. All right. Ice cream. Orange cream sickles. No ice cream novelties. Ice cream novelties. Yes. Doing it for the summer. Yeah. Dreamy creamy. Dreamy creamy summer. Done. Yeah. Okay. I think it's going to be so dreamy creamy. It's going to be the best. It's going to be great. So it's starting on 420. Okay. Yeah,

naturally. And I guess we'll go till 9 11. Yeah. 420 to 9 11. 420 to 9 11. That makes the most sense of any stretch of dates I can imagine. Yeah. So we'll have some more details about what this will entail on the next episode. But yeah, it's going to be ice cream novelties. I like it. Yeah, I like it. That will be much easier to complete in a positive way. Yeah, sure. Many apologies to the people who have taken the time to send in mustards. If you'd like to send me a message, I will certainly repay you. Or making something. I don't know. We'll do something for you because it's very generous. If you feel shortchanged by the year of the mustard, please wait. We're not our intention at all. I understand there's some

enthusiasm. I just hope we can transition that into enthusiasm about the dreamy creamy summer. Well, I think ultimately, you know, weight gain might be an issue for the dreamy creamy summer. So you're gonna have to get on the cardio a little bit. Yeah. I think I'm gonna have to try to make sure I don't go too far. Right. Right. I honestly, I don't think I eat all that healthy to begin with. No, that is true. This may not be that big of a difference for fine. Fine. But here's what we do. We do this like the McDonald's every day for 30 days thing. You're gonna need to go to a dentist regularly like once a week checkups. How much ice cream have you eaten this week between six and 10 drinks per night? You know, like that guy. I'm gonna go to

a chiropractor who pretends to be a dentist. Right. That's a good idea. A chiropractor who pretends to be a doctor. Right. And a dentist who does acupuncture. Sure. Yeah. And a chiropractor who moonlights at McDonald's. I think it's a good way to go. So we've got a crack team. So this is yeah. That's my bright spot is a dreamy creamy summer coming to you now. Wonderful. What about you? My bright spot is my little sister. She is having her first child and she just did the gender reveal thing yesterday. Did it start a fire? I did not. They went straight with like cupcakes with a color of icing inside them or something as opposed to my idea, which was, you know, M80s inside of a cupcake. Right. A flammable cupcake. End of pitch. Yeah. But yeah. So you don't think that's,

I mean, I don't want to make you talk bad about your sister, but you don't think that's a little tacky? What? Just I think safety first. Sure. I mean, just the institution of gender reveal parties. Yes. I despise them. Okay. I mean, I couldn't go because I was too busy slaving away in the podcast factory. You know, were you? Oh, this was yesterday. Yes. Yeah. Spoiler alert. We recorded something yesterday. Yeah. So yeah. But anyways, it's a it's a boy. Oh, congratulations. You're going to be an uncle again. Yeah. You're already an uncle. Yeah. I'll be, I'll be an uncle twice over next year already twice uncle to uncle. Additions to the next year. How do you like it? It's better than being a parent. I would imagine. Yep. As somebody who is an uncle and not a parent,

I can only speak from my experience that it seems like it's better than having way less work. Yeah. Less responsibilities. I like them. They're cute. I see them once every six to 12 months. So Jordan, today we are getting back into some present day ish Alex Jones. All right. You've been gone for a week. We kept the podcast factory running in your absence. Yes. Yes, indeed. Thank you to Amanda for coming in and having a chat. I enjoyed that interview. I'm sorry to miss it. So we have to check in on what happened while you were gone. And today we're going to be going over April 13th, 2022. That's Wednesday to you. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We already have dreamy creamy. You get to keep that one.

I don't know. I'm taking this one back April 13th, 2022. That's Wednesday to you. And they do the finger gun. No, you want the finger gun. Of course you get to keep always. Well, maybe it'll maybe it'll stick. We'll see. I don't think so. This isn't fun. It's not fun, but it's an episode and we'll get into it. But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new folks where it walks. So first, sneaky, sneaky, little breaky, tomorrow's turtle soups today. Thank you so much. You're an out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, that horse you rode in on. Thank you so much. You're an out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Standing up for that horse that has been aligned by Alex. Yeah. Next, Patrick. I'm not saying the drowned

God is Cthulhu, but the drowned God is Cthulhu Ferguson. Thank you so much. You're an out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Skald. Thank you so much. You're an out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Chad and Matt and Evergreen. Thank you so much. You're an out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a couple of technocrats here to say hello to. So first, James Patterson. Yes, like the author. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk as a person requested to be on the 666 episode and I've unfortunately missed their message. So I'm a demon. It's the 666 episode all over again. Thank you, Paul in Kentucky. Not that asshole Rand. You are now a technocrat.

I'm a policy walk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just going to take a little break now. A little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners

yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not. He's not much better. I don't think that this was as toxic an episode as I've heard. Which may be the highest praise I can really muster for Alex at this point. I don't think I wanted to rage quit at any point. I was bored at many points. Sure. But you can't shoot for something outside of what's possible. So I think in Alex's position, achievable goals such as not forcing you to rage quit is something to be celebrated. Right. That might be in the like top two percent percent, 98th percentile or whatever the show. So anyway, here's not a context drop here from today's show.

We ain't buying your chili. Okay. All right. Calm down, man. Calm down. All right. Just trying to sell chili here. Sir, this is literally a one day. We have chili on sale. You prefer a Baconator. I get it. So we start off the episode and Alex is covering the subway shooting in New York. That is kind of the big news right here. And Alex has a take. He's got to take. Let me just give you a quick rundown of the incredible stories. We have the corporate press in overdrive scrambling hysterically, trying to hide the fact that the New York City subway shooter was targeting white people

because he believed they needed to die. And then he also wanted to kill black people that married outside of the African bloodline. Obviously completely mentally ill out of his mind from his postings. I've watched several of videos this morning. So Alex isn't totally off base here, but there's a couple of important distinctions that need to be made between what Alex is saying and what information is known. It is true that the alleged subway shooter Frank James had a history of posting disturbing often hateful and violent videos on YouTube. He had a serious problem with New York's public health system, particularly the mental health system, having claimed that he was mistreated at a city facility. He also did

have some distaste for white people, but Alex is conveniently leaving out the racist shit he posted about many other groups, including black people. That being said, it's pretty clear from his videos that he was strongly opposed to white people. He was worried about a coming race war and was mentally unwell. And he was mad at Kintaji Brown Jackson because she's married to a white man. So that's what Alex is referring to there. However, there are these distinctions that are important. This is a very possible motivation for his shooting, and it may well turn out that that's the case, but Alex doesn't know that when he's reporting this. This is an assumption that Alex is making. And whether he was motivated by a racial hatred doesn't mean that

he was trying to kill white people in the subway. Right. There is a distinction there that is, there's a meaning to it, although it's maybe slightly academic. Right. No, I understand. I understand what you're saying. The second point is probably more important. And that's how you can see that when there's a black shooter who appears to be motivated by a hateful ideology, they're making decisions and they are actual criminals. Compare this to the way that Alex covers countless white mass shooters like Dylan Roof or James Holmes. And you see a clear distinction when the shooter is white, there's a grand conspiracy about how he was brainwashed and basically just a blunt instrument being used by the globalists. Well, if the shooter is not white,

it may be some kind of a conspiracy still. They may be not well, but they have control over their actions. Yeah. There's a reason that they're doing what they're doing. Yes. That motivates their actions as opposed to like they were jolly and West brainwashed him at an Air Force facility or whatever. Just saying out loud, you can judge this person as bad. You cannot judge the white person as bad because their actions were outside of their control. Well, you can judge them as bad asterisk. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. The third point I would bring up is that Alex is just making up an idea that the media is covering up Frank James previous social media releases. On this very day of this episode, April 13th, there was an article in the New York Times titled, quote,

suspect drifted from city to city as his videos hinted at violence. This Times article offers a more nuanced perspective on James videos and how he wasn't just someone who hated white people. That variable is the only thing that's important to Alex. So that's how info wars reports it compared to this from the times. Quote, he seems to have been more focused on his YouTube account where the videos he posted frequently devolved into outbursts of homophobia, misogyny and offensive comments about black people, Hispanic people and white people. Mr. James, who is black, directed much of his hatred towards black people who he often blamed for the way they were treated in the United States. Sure. The article goes on to say, quote,

he expressed admiration for black trailblazers like Martin Luther King Jr. and President Barack Obama, but unleashed vitriol on other black people, including Daunte Wright, who was killed by a police officer in Minnesota last year, and other young black men shot by the police. He blamed them for their own deaths, saying, you play stupid games, you win a stupid prize and adding that they deserve to be shot. Yeah, that's so different from what Clarence Thomas believes. Or Alex. Yeah. There's a big article about the videos in his social media posts and Rolling Stone, and it's a story that was covered in countless other outlets. The point here is that there absolutely was no desperate cover up of this subject matter. And it's important to understand

what Alex means when he says that when Alex alleges a cover up, what he's saying is that other outlets don't have the same angle on the story that he does. And anyone whose narrative is different than Alex is covering something up. So when Alex says that there was a shooting that was entirely and centrally around a hatred of white people, if you're a listener and you encounter another outlet discussing the broader hatred and anger James is trafficking in, you'll be far more likely to see that as the media trying to blur the real truth of the story, which Alex is reporting accurately. Yeah, look, they're trying to both sides it, they're trying to make it look like, oh, this isn't just about how much he hates white people.

And by extension, because as obviously we know, you can paint an entire group by the actions of one individual, especially one who is incredibly mentally unwell. This is just another critical aspect of Alex's early game. When there's stories breaking, and there aren't a lot of concrete details known about the situation, he'll pretty much always accuse an unspecific group like the MSM and the media of engaging in a cover up. It never actually has to be true, because the effect he's looking for is to make the audience distrustful of any story that doesn't match his narrative, and warning of some imaginary cover up does that perfectly well. It doesn't have to have any bearing on reality. Also, there's just a trope among racists that black crime is being

covered up while white crime is overreported. And Alex is definitely playing that game here too. Totally. That's some of the introductory pieces. It is a little bit wild to hear Alex's take on that. If you pulled transcripts of Alex's videos and that guy's videos, there are plenty of situations where you wouldn't be able to tell who said what. I imagine maybe there's some optics differences in terms of the way things are being expressed, but I would imagine there's a lot of similar ideas. James, in his videos, was concerned about a coming race war. Alex and his guests talk about that all the goddamn time. All the goddamn time. So what are you going to do? Yep. So I think that Alex thinks that he's taking a little bit of a moral high ground here,

sure, by being like, we don't blame all black people for this shooter who was black. Right. Okay, cool. We don't blame black people for what he did. We don't blame someone for the color of their skin for what somebody else, the same skin has done. But the media does when it's Dylan Roof, also completely mentally ill, also mumbling incoherently and saying similar things, but from a white perspective, when he went into an innocent black church and killed nine people at Point Blank Range and injured others, every white person in America was guilty and every gun owner was guilty. The corporate media told us for months and beat us over the head with it. We don't blame white people for what that deranged mentally ill person did.

The answer is arming churchgoers, having armed deacons, and that's been stopping these shooters dead in their tracks. It's really funny for Alex to pretend that he had an evolved response to the Dylan Roof shooting. His immediate response was that if Roof wanted to actually kill black people, he should have become an abortion doctor, which weirdly he isn't saying about Frank James. Very strange. Yeah. Why wouldn't he say if he wanted to kill white people, he should have become an abortion doctor. Don't white people get abortions? No, I guess it doesn't seem that Alex would really think of it that way. He's a little glib when the victims are racially targeted because they're black. Yeah. InforWars own reporting from 2015 actually undercuts Alex's entire point here.

There was no mass blaming of white people for Roof's actions. There was a deep trauma that had been caused by a person who acted specifically out of racist hate and a conversation was needed about how that hate is more prevalent than most people want to admit. And this is where it leads a lot of the time. When I say that InforWars own reporting contradicts Alex, what I mean is that just after the shooting, Alex sent Jakari Jackson down to Charleston, expecting to find chaos in people fighting. Alex was spouting his normal race war fears, but when Jakari got there, he found a community coming together to heal. People of all ages, races and backgrounds were embracing and supporting each other. Here's a clip from his reporting.

Walked out now. It's about 1140. They also had loudspeakers for the people who couldn't get inside. They were out here listening and whether you were inside or outside, it was pretty hot. I don't know if the AC was broken or if they didn't have one, but a lot of people had fans and water, but it's still good. You know, we were in there sweating, but everybody was enjoying the service. It was, I guess, a brief message that the creature brought, but it was a lot of praise and worship. You know, it's really good vibe. You know, I keep saying about this, people of all, you know, races, colors, ages, all that. You would not be surprised to learn that Jakari didn't do too much more reporting from Charleston because a community coming together

to reject racism and show that they're stronger than the hate that motivated Dylan Roof. That's not a story that's very interesting for info wars. No, not profitable. No, we're gonna leave that one alone. Also, fuck the idea of having armed pastors. When that's something you're sincerely suggesting, you need to stop a minute and consider that the problem may be way more serious than you're acting like it is. It's bad enough that rhetoric around arming teachers has become so normalized with the idea that religious leaders should be armed is so painfully depressing that it seems to be missing the mark entirely. It just feels like Alex wants to live in a world that's basically just that LP video for deep space nine millimeter where everybody's just

casually pointing guns at each other. Everybody pointed gun at everybody else all the time. It'll keep the peace. I mean, it'll do something. The most high profile case I think Alex could be referring to here is the Sutherland Springs church shooting back in 2017, but that wasn't stopped by an armed deacon or somebody in the congregation being armed. Stephen Williford was the guy who shot the shooter there and he was at home when the shooting started and he only responded after his daughter told him that she'd heard gunshots and he came to the church, so he wasn't an armed preacher. Right. In 2021, an armed man took over a church pulpit in Nashville and the pastor in that case was able to disarm him, but he didn't use a gun. The pastor just tackled

him from behind before he was able to shoot anyone. In that case, I would suspect that if the gunman had been confronted by someone with another gun, you would end up putting a ton of church goers in a much more dangerous position where there could end up being exchange of fire. People could be shot accidentally. You as the preacher might accidentally shoot one of your church goers in congregation. It's nonsense. It's not a solution to the problem, but it's Alex's solution. It would be very hard for a pastor or a priest of the like who believes what they believe sincerely to want to kill somebody as opposed to lay down their own life. A pastor would rather be killed to save the murderer's life than otherwise.

That may be an idealized situation, but I read some story too. I was looking for instances of this happening and there was a case of a pastor. I can't remember where, but he gave a sermon and then he went to a Walmart and there was a shooter and he ended up having a gun and shooting the shooter. It was a pastor shooting a guy with a gun, but it wasn't at the church, so I didn't think it was super relevant to this, but his take on it was that it was a deeply traumatic experience and he needed doing it. Yeah, absolutely. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if you're in your church. How traumatizing it would be. I mean granted, having a shooting at a church just in general would be traumatizing no matter what. I think shooting is bad. I mean, how is

it we get to this level? America's so fucked up we get to this level of like, we need to granularly argue about what types of shootings are a problem. Yeah, we're three stages past like where a rational conversation has happened. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what is important about what Alex is doing towards this subway shooter is he does not give a shit about the victims or about solutions or about trying to avoid it. This is entirely in service of saying, this is happening, so that's why it's okay for Dylan Roof or why we shouldn't feel bad about Dylan Roof like this is all in service of making it okay for white people to do or at least to equivocating in some way. Absolutely. Yeah, and that's why Alex is trying to make this entire

thing about Dylan Roof. Here it is inside Frank James chilling bullets and body bags post before subway shooting. This person of interest says we're in World War three. I came face to face with the mumbling Brooklyn subway shooter. New York Post has a witness talking about it. Didn't even know really where he was or what he was doing. Full on lunatic land, just like Dylan Roof, didn't know who he was and was jibbering to police. But that was in the back of the paper with him. No, it was all premeditated and it was all white people's fault. That's the reason this happened. No, it is not my fault when somebody that looks like me does something wrong. It's my fault when I do something wrong. But see, authoritarians always blame whole groups. That's what the

left does. They're sick and they're evil. Alex is mad. Yes, that I think obviously the conclusion that I came to from the subway tragedy is that the left is evil. Don't blame me for Dylan Roof. That was my first thought in reaction to this specifics. You might be bringing a lot of baggage to this conversation. So the New York Post story that Alex is citing doesn't say that the shooter didn't know where he was. The witness just said, quote, I looked at him and I thought to myself he was talking to himself for like a while. So I looked at him and I was like, this guy must be on drugs. That's what Alex is extrapolating out to. He didn't know where he was, whatever. Also, Dylan Roof didn't say a bunch of gibberish during his killing spree. He showed up to a Bible

study and was welcomed in by the churchgoers. He sat there with them for almost an hour before gunning down nine people in cold blood while they prayed. I know that Alex is trying to grasp it straws to make this story somehow about himself, but this is some shameful shit. You can tell though he's mad. I think I know why. In the aftermath of the Charleston shooting, people didn't blame all white people in the same way that in the aftermath of the subway shooting, people aren't blaming all black people. However, Alex is a flagrant racist. So he experienced the conversations after Charleston as an attack on white people and himself in particular. He only felt that way because that's how he experiences reality. And then he went out looking for tweets and blog

posts that would back up his persecution fantasies. You know, some stray tweet of someone blaming white people or something. Yeah. In this current situation, things are a little bit different because Alex isn't experiencing the coverage of the shooting as an attack on himself in his own identity. He's not looking for a defense of that narrative in the same way. As was the case with the Charleston shooting, people aren't using the shooting to condemn an entire race. So this becomes a situation where there's a media cover up. And what's the media allegedly covering up? Alex's narrative that this shooting was an attack on white, all white people, and thus we've come full circle. And every event in the news is understood only through the filter of how it's

proof of how Alex's particular identity is under attack specifically. The obsession with talking about this only through the prism of Dylan Roof. That shooting is pretty telling, I think. I would say that it's a tell. I mean, well, it does seem like you can very quickly work backwards from that. Like, let's go to, let's say the human race one by one and ask them just pure, what is your first word association game? Only Alex is going to come up with Dylan Roof. Sure. And you know what I kept thinking about too when I was listening to this? Like, Alex is saying like in 2015, or yeah, 2015, whenever that the Charleston shooting happened, everyone blamed all white people. I just keep thinking of the multiple times in these depositions

that people like Alex and Owen Troyer have been asked directly, what are your examples of calling for gun control after mass shootings? And they can come up with nothing. I would guarantee that Alex could not come up with anything other than a general feeling that he had that people were blaming all white people. And that comes down to his own identity fears and victimhood and persecution obsession. That's what he's talking about. Yeah. I mean, ultimately, it could be seen to me that he believes that white people are at fault for things, have something coming to them and is reacting so negatively because he wants to try and avoid that outcome. You can psychoanalyze him all you want. I think you've breached the Goldwater rule. So I'll pull you back a little

bit. All right, fine. So Alex spends a lot of time on this episode complaining about CNN Plus. Sure. Apparently a new streaming service. CNN Plus. A thing that roughly 10,000 people have subscribed to. Alex brings up that number a bunch. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's if you're going to dance on a streaming service, I think CNN Plus is a good queebie way to go. Yeah. He's very much like they spent so much money on it. No one's watching. I'm better than them. I mean, hey, I'm fine with that. It's a little naval gaze. Sure. A little bit. Sure. But he spends so much fucking time on this. We operate on $25 million a year. We have to sell $60 million worth of product on average to be able to then get money to fund ourselves. To break even we got to sell $60 million worth of

product. And some years we haven't. But I did things like take some of the money we raised in the years and invest it in real estate to be able to then sell that real estate when I knew I'd need it down the road to dump it back in the operation. And I've already done that. So I'm down to my last chips here. But not because we're not popular. Imagine this. We're operating on 27 million a year. We're operating on $27 million a year with our own servers, own satellites, own crew, own legal, with all the attacks, our own infrastructure. And CNN Plus launched with $400 million and has less than 10,000 viewers a week. You could start a cooking show yourself on YouTube. And if it's half decent within a week, you'll have 10,000 views guaranteed. Well, that's not true. I mean,

dead cat could get more viewers with a webcam on it in the middle of the street than CNN can. Everyone can't stand CNN. What did old Joe Rogan say about it? Okay, look, this is important stuff obviously covering CNN Plus not being very popular. I don't know who's watching because Alex watching live streams of dead cats. I mean, well, at least 10 to 12,000 people are, I assume. Yeah, I think he might have a skewed version of how difficult it is to crack into the attention. No, no, no, it's real easy. If you have a cooking show in your halfway decent, within a week, tens of thousands of people will find you. There's a dearth of halfway decent cooking shows on YouTube. I think he doesn't realize how ignorable he would be if he wasn't

this deep in his career. If he hadn't started prior to YouTube, hadn't started way back, if he wasn't grandfathered in, no one would give a shit about his dumb show. Nope. It's such a stupid, stupid source of information. And honestly, I think in the absence of Alex, someone else might be as good of a showman as him. Absolutely. Maybe. Absolutely. I don't know. I'm not sure how attractive his program could be if it wasn't him. Try and imagine this appearing out of nowhere. No one gives a shit. There's crazier stuff. There's more interesting stuff. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a little bit like a little bit like the comedy, the pre-internet, you know, of like there are so many gatekeepers before the internet that there is no way to

break in unless you started, unless you knew people. And that kind of kept things much more homogenized in it, kept people from experimenting in a lot of really interesting ways. And then all of a sudden the internet comes along and you could be a mediocre white dude comic and have a very good career. And then the internet hit and it's like, Oh, there's a lot of mediocre white dude comics around. Maybe there's maybe I should work hard. But at the same time, everybody can put out a ton of stuff. Totally. And so you're it's even, you know, it's probably as hard or harder with the amount of stuff that people can put out to get any kind of traction or attention. Absolutely. As good of a comic as you are, there's 100,000 of you. It just as good,

if not better. Yeah. Yeah. And even if you're doing something wildly creative, guess what? There's a lot of other people who are doing wildly creative things too. And it could just come down to like, Oh, well, people didn't see you at the right time. You know, like my point is that Alex sucks. Alex sucks. And his show has no value if it wasn't him. Yeah. But you know who it is have some value. Elon Musk. Nope. Disagree. Massive news. Elon Musk battling back. I've got the inside baseball on that a while back, but I've been asked not to say anything about it. That's why I told you about a year ago, I said, Musk claims he's going to take on

the new world order. I don't know if that's true. I've been on the fence about the guy, but now he's starting to prove himself. And he lives right here in Austin. I'll just leave it at that. And I run with people that run with him on a weekly basis. And that's just what I've been told. So you're actually seeing what I was told was going to happen. Yeah. Elon Musk pretending he's going to buy Twitter is battling the new world order. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't get more tip of the spear than pretending to buy Twitter. And possibly getting investigated by the SEC. Again, for crimes that we all know he commits that he just doesn't get punished for because consequences are anathema to the wealthy. Quite a battle. He's raging. Oh, he's going to save us.

So Alex is known as being very credible and very, he's taken very seriously by what he would describe as intellectual circles. Sure. Info wars is doing the most important work it's ever done. And I'm always up here having to scrabble to get money just to stay on the air when we're having our most important work ever and become more authoritative and more influential in intellectual circles around the world. So your investment info wars is always paying off in freedom and liberty and awakening. And it's paying off better day by day. It's like a pregnancy that's eight and a half months in. You're about to get the baby. It's about to be healthy. All the works coming in now were in the birth pains. But I can tell you, I have almost spent half the reserve

money I have that was just like four million dollars for a company this important. That was nothing. I had four million dollars five months ago and I got two point three million right now. So I guess half almost. And those are my averages and we need everybody we've got working here and I'm not bitching or complaining. But why should we have layoffs when everything we said is coming true and we're winning? I've got all the Democrat lawsuits coming to a head with the trials this summer. I got to pay for all that. I got judges doing all these fake sanctions on me massively that top law firms say they've never seen that break the law. But I don't pay them. They'll have me arrested. I mean, we're under massive attack because we've entered the thick of the battle.

The key gladiatorial event that's going to decide so much. So now your whole investment could really be damaged in liberty. If you let them take down the standard of freedom, I need everybody seriously to get off the fence and go to infowarstore.com. That is about the most concretely. I've heard him express. I need you to pay my legal fees. Yeah. Yep. That is about as blunt as it's been. They like, look, I'm going to get hit with some really big fines coming up soon. Yeah. I need you help. This is going to be a bad summer, guys. Do you want me to be around? You're going to have to pay for it. Alex is going to have a bad summer. I'm going to have a dreamy creamy one. Yeah. That's how it's going to go. We're going

to sit here and eat ice cream as Alex pays out the butt. Yep. That's the plan. Yep. Whatever he gets fined. That's how many ice cream. No, no, no. You might have to divide, you know, type two diabetes isn't the isn't the isn't a death sentence stand. So here Alex gets back to some some conversations about the New York subway shooting and he really, really gets pretty fucked up and racist here. Dylan roof. Charleston 2015 in June. He goes into an innocent black church of people he never met and didn't know who'd done nothing to him and he shot more than 15 people killing nine and they reported that the police said that he was gibbering incoherently and appeared to be schizophrenic.

That matter they said all white people were to blame and then all gun owners were to blame. No, I'm not to blame and white people are not to blame. This lunatic is to blame. Just like the New York subway shooter Frank James who shot more than 16 people many in critical condition is a black nationalist like Waukesha parade killer recently released video manifesto posted video of the new Supreme Court justice saying he doesn't like her because she's married to a white person. Another gibbering crazy lunatic. Do we blame black people? No, we don't blame black people. But who do we blame? We blame the corporate media and we blame the establishment stirring up all this hate and we blame them covering up the fact that black on white crime is at least 10 times

white on black crime because the media promotes that white people are bad and deserve to be mug and attacked and many black leaders even where I live in Texas say don't rob in your neighborhood go rob white people. How about you don't rob or kill anybody? How about that? Whoa, seems like that clip took an intensely racist turn at the end. Yeah, you kind of got the feeling that Alex was doing everything in his power to stop himself from saying how about you don't rob anyone black people? Yeah, you know, I here's what I would say. I would say that all black people have standing to sue Alex for defamation there because we know that that is not true. There's no such thing as black people committing 10 times more crime on white people. That's not a thing. Right. Well,

we'll discuss this here. Yeah. But the first problem is that Dylan Roof didn't injure more than 15 people. No, he killed nine and injured one additional person. Bigger issue though, Alex has these crime statistics entirely wrong like you're referencing and it's literally just repeating inaccurate racist propaganda. This conclusion that black on white crime is 10 times higher than white on black crime is reachable when you don't factor in population ratios and other factors into your analysis. And this is a standard trick that white nationalists and white supremacist groups have used for decades to foment fear of black people as dangerous criminals. We've talked about this racist myth a bit in the past and how telling it is that Alex thinks it's reality. So

I'm not going to dive into that fully again. But this actually leads me to an important point. Alex is trying to use some kind of illusion that all white people were blamed for the Charleston shooting in order to frame his coverage of the New York subway shooting. Instead of blaming all black people, Alex has decided what he's going to do is blame the media for covering up that black on white crime is 10 times higher than white on black crime in order to make black people feel like they should attack white people. That's what he wants the media to be apparently doing. This is literally what Dylan Roof wrote in his manifesto about why he decided to carry out the Charleston shooting. This is from his manifesto that was published on his

website The Last Rhodesian quote the event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obviously Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words black on white crime into Google and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on white murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up this Trayvon Martin case? Well hundreds of black on white murders got ignored.

Alex is using the image of Dylan Roof to somehow justify his racist response to the New York subway shooting but the truth is that Alex is Dylan Roof. Alex is disseminating the exact same false racist propaganda that inspired Dylan Roof to commit the mass murder of nine people praying in a church specifically because they were black. Alex is spreading the same information to his audience potentially sending other impressionable listeners down a path that may not lead to murder but definitely leads to overt racism. And I find it difficult to believe that he doesn't know what he's doing. He has had plenty of time to figure out that this is an incorrect racist myth and he either doesn't care or he knows that it is and he still perpetuates it. So fuck him.

Yeah yeah that's that's great. That is great. I mean wow. In response to this mass shooting that I think was racially motivated let me quote the Dylan Roof. Yeah let me let me essentially paraphrase his manifesto. Yeah let's not do that. There's zero times when it's a good idea to paraphrase. But you know I mean we see that quite a bit. I mean you see when we did that episode on Anders Brevik you see how similar a lot of Alex's rhetoric is to the things that were inspiring to him in his manifesto. And this is true of other people who have been inspired by the great replacement conspiracy theories that certainly made an appearance in a number of manifestos. Right. And Alex's coverage is identical. Well because the reality of this.

But I mean it's the point you know you can't say stochastic terrorism enough whenever the point is to create an environment or a reality wherein it is justifiable to commit those acts of mass atrocities. So regardless of whether or not Alex quote unquote wants them to happen by disseminating this bullshit you are trying to make them happen. Well and you're increasing the likelihood that people will find places that have even more extreme versions of these racist talking points and myths online if they search these things out and they'll become deeper radicalized. It's not a path that someone responsible would go down. Well to put it simply his response to a mass shooting of which there are just an unconscionable number

is to say things that will inspire another mass shooting. Or at least definitely have. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean look I think obviously this is maybe beside the point maybe a trivial issue. This is the kind of thing that would get somebody fired at a regular job. Yes absolutely just the like repeated insistence of these black and white crimes that would get you fucking fired so fast 100 percent. And he doesn't have to worry about that. No boss. Nope. Anyway Alex's got some information wrong about the Frank James situation. Kill all whitey suspect in Brooklyn subway shooting spotted hateful black nationals rhetoric praised beautiful 9 11. Turns out he was on the FBI terror list and the agents had tried to investigate him but

the investigation was killed. There was no investigation that was killed. Alex is making that up. There were some inaccurate reports that Frank James was formerly on the FBI watch list but it turns out it was a different person named Frank James. This is a mistake someone could make but what Alex is doing isn't the same thing. He's taking this inaccurate reporting then building a conspiracy on top of it. Not only was he formerly on this watch list but someone in the FBI killed an investigation into him. Now why would they do that. Why would they do that. Nothing Alex says means anything. You know he takes mistakes or things he makes up and then makes up stuff on top of them. It's all just bullshit. Yep. Yep. You can you can make a mistake

if you're like oh I found on this former watch list Frank a Frank James. Could this be the same person. Everybody could be you know why not. Why not say that. Now obviously there's a million Frank James's out there. Yeah. But you know I think you if you then add like and because I saw this possible name that matches on this thing clearly the president assassinated his dad right agents tried to investigate him and then the investigation was killed is pulled entirely from Alex's imagination and just total bullshit. So another thing that Alex is writing elaborate fantasies about is the case of the Whitmer kidnappers. Right. But see the wheels are coming off the Whitmer fraud. Millions and millions spent going out and canvassing Michigan to find mainly young white

men who came from fatherless homes who were looking for male role models and who were upset about the decline of America and wanted to train with firearms to be basically in the military without joining and they typecast they spent years setting them up they activated them and ordered them the FBI was recorded this themselves it got into evidence ordered them to attack Whitmer's house ordered them to kidnap her ordered them to cut her head off and they're on tape. No no I don't want to but the FBI agents and informants muscle them and command them and order them to at least show up and run around at night in the bushes by her house so they could then say she was a victim when people wanted to impeach her during the lockdowns and the same FBI team

that did that then ran January 6th. This is a fun scene from a movie or something but that this isn't accurate. Yeah. Two of the four defendants in the case were acquitted and the jury was unable to reach a verdict for the other two if they had audio even close to what Alex is describing this never would have even gone to trial. Also Alex is conveniently ignoring the fact that two conspirators pled guilty already sure and there are eight other people facing state charges that are yet to go to court this is not the the situation is not what Alex is describing although there are problems and I think the issue generally speaking is that the FBI rushed this case they jumped too early for the arrest as the plotting that was going on wasn't solid enough for them to likely get charges to

stick as it stands now it's too easy for the defense attorneys to portray what was going on is just some dudes talking shit and it also doesn't help that there were multiple moles in the group since that does lend itself to the impression that the FBI was running the whole thing but that's not borne out by the information yeah that that is available also but it's just fun this this like it's in the evidence that you go in there you cut her head off yeah yeah you know but it's that's the FBI's own fault though if they hadn't if they hadn't built a reputation for doing that adjacent behavior in the past I don't whether or not it's in all the time thing or anything like that but you do it one time it's there I don't I don't have like um necessarily a problem with some

skepticism surrounding this and I also don't think that there's uh like I had an absence of criticism right that that is merited but totally I don't think that the claims that Alex is making are are defensible no no no I agree play that audio Alex it came out in evidence it's public yeah I mean it's the it's the Watergate to the Whitmergate tapes sure yeah that's what we'll do go run around in the bushes hey hey go attack her in the bushes ah you ever see uh hot shots part duh so look uh the same people who did that did uh January 6th obviously and Alex has decided he's gonna have a little wait so Alex is very conveniently forgetting that all of his buddies have been yep yeah okay yeah that's just wanted to be no that's faded into the background he's he's so he's

not so is he saying then that Stuart Rhodes works for the FBI that's an interesting syllogism I don't know I may I mean maybe that's a conclusion yeah I think maybe but anyway Alex is gonna have a parlay with the FBI it's why the FBI comes to talk to you about January 6th as he's being set up right now for me to do I'm doing a proffer I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to him if I'm wrong the whole big team wants to come under and talk but I'm like okay and I'm gonna sit there and ask him hey how about I interview you and ask you guys a little bit of questions here I mean you want to know what some main suspects are who ran this thing I mean it's your bosses it's your ass sitting in that seat I mean it's it's it's it's upside down world here Jack

yeah come on Jack that's Biden's word hey hey FBI how about we turn these tables around now you're under investigation that's gonna work well yeah that happens every time I'm gonna guess Alex is gonna be more like yes sir I don't know anything play this out okay you say to the FBI all right I've turned the tables I'm investigating you I think they would laugh how does that yeah what is are they gonna be like what nobody's ever done this before did we just run away oh my god you're so manly this is terrifying you're clearly not scared of me sir your penis is too big yeah nonsense so Alex's whole thing is like they want violence going into the midterm these Democrats because globalists are just Democrats now yeah um so they want violence going into the midterms that's the

only way they're gonna win and so this shooting on the subway staged but also maybe not staged what but maybe it stays okay so maybe it's not could not be so they want violence going into this midterm here's a headline Democrat death march to November down all and it just says every poll shows the biggest landslide in US history well Trump won the huge landslide and he won the second time in landslide they stole it and they're planning false flags to blame the American people and stir up a race war as I've pointed out you will see mass shootings in subways and in churches and in colleges and in schools and at shopping malls I've been saying it every day for the last few months that all they got to do is know about schizophrenics that are out there and give them

weapons and encourage them and then turn the cameras off as they did in New York yet again and I'm not saying it's staged but we know the FBI was told knew about him and the higher ups didn't let him stop him so maybe it is staged maybe it maybe it is all set up in a false flag but also maybe it's not okay so it wasn't staged what well the FBI did know about it and they did have control which isn't true okay but they but it could have been true it could have been true and if it is then it's probably staged yes but it's not true no but it could be but it might not be well you don't know who knows this is worthwhile yes yeah good good work yeah also that Democrat death march to November is a op-ed in town hall by Kurt Schlichter so okay I don't care yeah it's

not an analysis of all these deep holes no it's a guy who worked for Breitbart oh Andrew Andrew Breitbart not just Breitbart it does seem like he would be let's say unbiased certainly yeah um so yeah I think this is this is just dumb you know it's you know here's what's crazy to me this is a prime strategic opportunity to do the bare minimum of saying you're not racist you know you could if he was just like this is exactly like Dylan Roof like I mean just like that if he just equivocated them entirely I actually be like I'm above this being about black people it would be one it's a he's so racist he can't even do us but his past career would be a problem for that right and then secondarily I don't think that they're the same no they're absolutely not

and I think it would maybe be racist to say that they're the same absolutely would be racist to say the same I know but but in Alex's world that would be that would be like see it's not about race this time I honestly think that what you're describing is what he's trying to do or what he thinks he's doing you know what you might be right oh my god you might be right yeah this is the worst day of my life I'm sorry yeah well I'd like to make your day better by having Alex tell you about a study that he didn't read okay but I want to get to this right now study finds Florida handled covid lockdowns better than New York and California and of course the numbers are all there I don't just believe the study they had one of the lowest death rates in the country yeah so the way Alex

is talking about this study it's abundantly clear that he hasn't read the article under this headline he has no idea what the study is the headline itself is from the New York Post and it reads New York California failed at handling covid but Florida was among best study when you read the headline like that it it's probably a good idea to ask yourself two questions the first is how does this study define success in dealing with covid and the second is who did this study well the thing about it was and you wouldn't have seen this coming but the measurement was how successful you were at getting around covid restrictions so Florida was the best at putting hurdle jumping hurdles putting masks just a little bit below your nose you know what I'm saying that would be an interesting

study it's not quite what this is but I think in this case answering the second question who did the study and helps you get halfway to answering the first question this was a study done by the committee to unleash prosperity which is a nonprofit group dedicated to pushing policies that will ramp up economic growth if you are non-supervillain you know there's only there's really just one simple rule don't put unleash in your name if you're a super villain that's where you put it perhaps unsurprisingly the committee's co-founders Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore are economists with deep connections to the coke networks and our board members for various wings within the american legislative exchange council which is the way of putting policies around

the state legislatures and what have you also oil is great yes yeah as you might expect this is a study that is not primarily about mortality from covid it's an economic institution with strong right-wing bends putting out a paper meant to justify the argument the places the kept businesses open are better sure to be clear I think that New York and California and our beloved Illinois have a lot of valid criticisms that can come their way about handling covid issues but I'm not going to take a study from the committee to unleash prosperity very seriously in terms of that argument and Alex hasn't even read the article or the study yeah I am going to dismiss it out of hand I am too yeah moving along I think that didn't make your mood that much better well I mean I do like

the idea of more things have it being named unleash yet like more charitable like oh this is the national center for unleashing vaccines on you you know like Alex would be scared of that exactly no that's terrifying the the committee to unleash the kraken yes exactly so I'm going to make your day a little bit better okay here's Alex rambling about God's mind that's what I love our source is God our source is truth our source is the sacrifice Christ we receive it and we join with our ancestors and our current brethren and those in the future in eternity because eternity is not enough wait what what is greater than eternity is unlimited eternities what and that is the

beginning of the mind of God what well I want to take your calls from Chris Michael Alex rush Brandon oh my god nobody does a better job of blending the ethereal with the pedestrian I'm talking about infinite eternities within God's mind and then immediately I'm gonna take your dumb calls oh the eternities beyond eternities the eternities of eternities yes I would like the dentine ice please thank you very much yep so meaningless rambling about esoteric Christian ideas that you know that's as close as we get in the present day to good old singing along with country music I think yeah yeah yeah although I think I think that there are periodic

times he sings along with country music but it's so much more rare yeah so Alex gives himself a little bit of a status report checking in you know he doesn't have a boss but sometimes you got to be your own boss yeah yeah what's his grade for himself you did a good job okay good now I did an okay job last hour I I hit the mentally ill schizophrenic black supremacist that went in there reportedly and shot all these people because they were white a terrible situation and it flies in the face of the FBI reported the last two years that white people are number one terror threat that doesn't mean there aren't crazy white people that go around shooting black folks look at dylan roof and other

cases but the media is not gonna stick the knife in and turn it and tell white people to hate black people like they would have done if a white person would have done this they didn't do that after the charleston shooting are you saying they should be doing that now I believe so weird yeah the idea is being expressed are really weird and kind of all over the place and just feel intensely racist yeah I mean it's hard not to think that he really wants what he's saying to be true which I think is a weird headspace you know that's kind of the feeling that comes across yeah like I wish that people had said it was all white people's fault well no and I does feel like they did right right but I mean like I think I think here here's what I would say yeah as opposed to wish

I think he's confused that people aren't blaming all black people for this yeah that's kind of the way that I that's the gap in how he's dealing with this that I feel is going on yeah because he feels and thinks that they did blame all white people after Dillon Roof he's confused that no one's being racist enough right something right all right should everybody be racist right now I think that's part of this kind of yeah yeah yeah so Alex like I said he has not done a good job a lot of it was complaining about CNN plus and he complains a little bit more but Brian Stelter Humpty Dumpty okay this goes on too long oh boy no one can put CNN and MSNBC in the corner and the whole corporate media back together again oh Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had

a great fall and the greatest example of that is Brian Stelter who is the living in bottom in of Humpty Dumpty the greatest example Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty said we must censor them all Humpty Dumpty said only I can speak no Humpty Dumpty was ugly and had disgusting feet what Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall Humpty Dumpty had a great fall all the King's horses and all the King's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again so what can they do so look here's the thing that like started the parody started okay yeah I think he got he made one rhyme yeah I think he thought he was fucking he was fire yeah yeah yeah this is gonna roll my my brain is just going to take me through to the break with this amazing rhyme that I'm coming

over immediately falls apart with the we're the only ones who can speak being rhymed with head ugly feet yep you've seen Brian Stelter's feet I guess maybe does he go into those websites they're creepy websites I'm sure I don't know I'm not gonna look it up but I think by the end he's just reciting Humpty Dumpty yeah it's not even like a parody yep I think he was like oh I was I got much like Icarus and I got to go back to safe harbor but that was too long yeah there was a you got to commit to the parody or shut it down just by calling him Humpty Dumpty right that's fine right oh man it is this is probably the the most uh uh or prayer reps the closest that Alex and I can feel because both of us have absolutely experienced this moment where the improv gun is

empty you drop a riff yeah you're just like whoa I'm this is me too man I can't count the number of times that I was performing at the laugh factory and like first of all someone like me does not belong on a stage like that where there's a two drink minimum well yeah yeah it's just all dark a sea of faces so many times just be like some idea or some thought I have is like uh uh like and there's silence I'm like all right next joke here we go all right yep that I can relate to that feeling a lot oh yeah it's not good but I will say that I didn't then retreat to just reciting Humpty Dumpty no I am proud of that no part of the part of the job is to overcome that yeah so anyway Alex wants to talk about stelter some more you know we always turn him into it the clown

but it the clown's almost more lovable than Brian stelter never going to not be at the clown it's not even fair to like make him turn into the clown on tv it's better just to show his real face yeah yeah please don't turn back at the club that's scarier looking than it because that's real why would the why would time warn why would AT&T want to put that on tv because they want to force ugliness and evil and fraud and lies on you because they're hunchback and they're ugly spiritually and they like the fact that they're forcing their ugliness on us their spiritual ugliness their filth on us I'm gonna stop ranting I'm gonna go to your calls gonna get to those calls uh I gotta assume that there's some kind of internal metrics and Alex knows that like when he

complains about stelter for long periods of time it does numbers you think or something it has to be I don't know there's no other explanation for how often he does these riffs I mean the man just hates brian stelter I think that could I mean that's obviously a part of it sure I I just don't know he's never given me anywhere near enough of stelter's crimes to justify this level of of hatred I think I saw somebody one of our listeners they posted like like stelter appears quite early in our in our show yeah it has been since the beginning of this that he's been yelling it's so many years and again it's he hasn't even done anything he just I would I would I would argue that I wouldn't know his name if it weren't for guaranteed 100 I would maybe be able to recognize

him as somebody who's on cnn yeah but I would not know his name never so congratulations Alex on exposing more people to brian stelter so uh biden and assumably it the clown uh it biden has made some comments about guns in the aftermath of the the subway shooting right and Alex wants to like really clown on him because for some reason biden started talking about prostitutes in the middle of this talking about guns he's crazy he doesn't know where he is man okay here's that clip all right but here's biden can't even get it right when he's saying we need to go after gun manufacturers and then he butchers it and brings in prostitutes somehow here it is I said what do you think the deer hunting or where kevlar vests what the hell you need

20 bullets for you must be a hell of a terrible shot I'm serious think about it think about the mass shootings as many as a hundred rounds it's a weapon of war there's nothing to do with recreation I'll ride ban in the sale and possession of unserialized guns eliminate gun manufacturers immunity from liability they're the only outfit they're the only outfit in the country that is immune imagine had the tobacco industry been immune to prostitutes being sued come on yep so you just misspoke prosecution right instead of oh my god yep wow this is this is as big as that Nancy Pelosi clip where she misspoke one time this is just the tip of the spear huge this is big having this clip now is these metaphorical smoking gun that proves Jim Carrey is Joe

Biden I would say so yeah I don't think there's any other conclusion I mean I think take take Biden's comments however you will agree or disagree with him sure I don't think anybody who is acting from a position of sincerity could say like that wasn't just him try it misspeaking saying prosecution yeah that's pretty fucking clear very similar and trying to make a bigger deal out of it seems desperate yeah I think a lot of people did a lot of that with uh with Trump stuff sure I think sometimes his misspeakings might have been a little more funny and I honestly think that if Alex was covering this like recognizing that he just misspoke and thought it was funny that that's the word that he said yeah I don't think that would be anything even worth comment on

no it's just the morrick but Alex thinks that like conceptually Biden's bringing prostitution here right and it's like well no that's just he just said the wrong word yeah yeah yeah I mean your best the best you could do even then is like you know uh he's not out of it he's not scrambled it's but it's like oh he's not as quick as he used to be sure and it's like well yeah he's 85 maybe we shouldn't have 85 year old presidents that's that's a fine conversation I'm there with you I think that angle makes more sense yeah anyway uh Alex does finally get to calls and uh he takes a call from a guy who believes that the subway shooting was a false flag well Adam in New Jersey Adam thank you for calling you're on the air Alex I'm glad to be talking to you man just want to

let you know you are the tip of the spear thank you for everything that you do I want to take up a little bit of your time and uh I live in Jersey and I just feel like this whole thing going on in Brooklyn it just seems all too convenient we've seen this move by the globalists before they overplay their hand and then they go quickly to the other side it's just it's just not making it's not adding up over here I just wanted to get your your thoughts on that well give us your view on it because the conveniently the camera failed they set up thousands of cameras that's the one area where they failed that's exactly what I'm saying it seems too coincidental and they just happen to find well you're not supposed to ask questions sir just go back to sleep come on yeah that's

that's my problem I'm awake there's a little bit of a misconception about what the actual story is relating to the cameras in the subway not working according to officials who spoke to the New York Times the issue was a faulty fiber optic cable that affected the station as well as two others nearby however this was not the case for all of the cameras in the stations Tim Minton the spokesperson for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority said quote the suspect was able to be seen and movements evaluated with the MTA's assistance he added that the cameras with malfunctioning feeds were located at turnstiles quote where they would not be in a position to capture any activity on the platforms below right so it wasn't even affecting right where they would have needed

to be right all right they were of no assistance and despite those failings they were still able to get eyes on Frank James so like the the issue is kind of well it's maybe coincidental sure slightly interesting on some level but it doesn't really affect the reality of what we're going on here what's important is just that uh uh alex might as well have been like oh okay uh the next caller is uh uh well I don't understand golf wang how big this is weird why are you oh it's a false flag that's weird it's weird a more skeptical mind might come to uh this sort of different possibility which is that maybe a ton of the cameras in the new york subway system don't work and they're just there for show and saying that the ones in this station happen to be off

is a way of trying to cover your ass a little bit I don't know if there's any evidence pointing in that direction but it seems like a more reasonable suspicion to have than what this caller is getting at I know that I've worked at more than one low paying job where they had cameras that definitely didn't work and at least in one case it only came out that the cameras weren't plugged in after someone needed footage to prove something yeah it's not unheard of the companies do that kind of thing but I think it's a stretch to assume that an entity as large as the mta would do it well I mean I I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying it's a stretch it's a stretch but but still never underestimate the underfunding of public transportation sure but I think that's

still a far more reasonable conspiracy questioning totally I guess angle to have on it than whatever they're talking about absolutely this is this is like pre-meditation they turned off the camera's gear to what end yeah here's your conspiracy the government has been overtaken by the wealthy and has transformed itself into what amounts to a kleptocracy that steals money that would be going towards say public funded issues like transportation and the like and whenever you find out that it needed to be there that's when you discover that essentially they're running on a goddamn skeleton of what's been ripped away from them I feel like that happens when a bridge collapses yeah anyway this same caller has some other dumb ideas and so does Alex they have all these videos of

his social media if he was some mastermind why does he have all these videos basically saying he's crazy out there and now it's suddenly this guy it doesn't make sense to me Alex well they got rid of the middle institutions in the 80s there are a lot of crazy people and the FBI did try to go after him but higher ups blocked it so they didn't fit the narrative he'd been a white crazy they'd have gone after him because that fits the narrative I mean I don't know if it was a staged event I don't know it's provocateur but we'll continue to watch it as it develops what else is on your mind brother so first of all no one's necessarily accusing James of being a mastermind this was not the most intricately planned attack that has ever been seen it's uh it was pretty blunt

force yeah kind of yeah more importantly though it's really critical to look at what Alex is saying here about race Alex's conjecture is that if Frank James had been white the FBI wouldn't have killed that investigation into him and that they only did that because he's black so it doesn't fit the narrative that they want to push what's going on here is that Alex is taking a fake piece of information that James was actually on this FBI watch list and using that to make the story fit his narrative Alex is the one who's forcing things into a predetermined narrative and accepting bad information because it adheres to the conclusion that he already wants to be true yeah which is somehow that this would have been different if he was white yep and that's because Alex is racist

this is purely in service of saying that the entire united states is prejudiced against white people right and that's Alex's belief yep so we get to a little comment about uh Russia and Putin in the war uh huh and how honest Putin is how he's one of the most honest people there's ever been Alex didn't say that you have no proof oh okay let's face this must have been a false luck you have no proof look memories aren't real oh that's a good point how can you prove that yesterday happened i hadn't considered that yeah um so no Alex is uh reporting that things are bad for Putin right now all right currently Putin is getting smashed and i said Putin went into a trap when it first happened right away this will make afghanistan look like a cakewalk that means soros and the

globalists are to blame for starting this but it doesn't mean i'm gonna go oh look Putin's doing a great job oh you're so smart to go in there no Putin's finding out i mean look Putin's not done i'll give you that what did he think was waiting for him when he went into there what do you think all the special forces units of europe and the and the delta force and the rest of them for a decade training the ukrainians with high-tech weapons yeah but if you know that why did you say that they were gonna just all not have any opposition and uh because russia had paid off everybody and there would be no fighting and it'd be over in 48 hours yeah if you knew that special forces had been training for a decade or whatever right it's all nonsense but i like the

idea that afghanistan's gonna be an old-fashioned cakewalk uh i mean wow what is what is this crazy mixed up world this is an old-fashioned cakewalk it was wild so there's a quick clarification that we need to make here when the war was just starting alex did say that Putin had walked into a trap but it wasn't about losing a war or the ukrainian forces repelling an invasion alex was still saying that the ukrainian military had been bought off and all that when alex said that Putin had walked into a trap he was saying that by invading Putin made himself vulnerable to being blamed for a cyber attack false flag that alex was sure that claus schwaab was going to pull presumably on the west yeah alex was very specific about this and now he's trying to rewrite shit about like what the

trap was yeah yeah yeah that's that's why you got a bit you got to really nail down the specifics of words because when he says trap he's he's talking about something in his head that you can bring into the conversation with something in your head agree that they're both traps and assume that alex is talking about something correct right instead of being like here's the problem okay Putin is walking into a trap what has happened so linsky has set up this box okay and underneath it he's got a plate with a cheese sandwich on it and it's held up by a small stick Putin now he doesn't even know he can't see that all he sees is a cheese sandwich man i really thought you were gonna involve like a marble that there's no room girl girl goldberg machine i was thinking just mousetrap

but but well that's fair all right fine i'm gonna have to soothe my wounds yeah of disappointment with another caller i feel like now but now my riff gun is uh is backfired this is brutal like me at the life factory so here's another caller this person took their dad to the va uh because they're worried about a vaccine injury and uh they think that uh their dad got vades oh which uh does not exist no my father i'm his power of attorney and two years ago he was riding his bike nine miles a day wow so very in shape elderly yes but very in shape and exercise every day and now he can barely walk to his mailbox without getting out of breath so i took him to the va he's a former vet and i wanted some blood work done and because he's had three thoughts and the doctor acted like i was crazy

because i explained why i wanted this blood work done and i had previously before we went i told my dad what i was concerned about which is vaccine induced autoimmune deficiency syndrome and the doctor literally acted like i was crazy yeah they guess like even though it's an all their literature and they know it's real they guess like you he acted like it was the first time he was hearing this information it's not an all their literature i mean like look i think that uh you know among people who are in the elderly set sometimes a couple of years can be a really there can be a turnaround yeah like yeah a lot can change in a you know relatively short amount of time yeah there's a ton of reasons that other than vaccines that could attribute they could be

attributable to what this this uh dude is uh experiencing yeah and you know i mean it sucks but i think that she's jumped to some clues some conclusions that are not founded and if i were her doctor at the va i might also be a little bit like i don't i don't know if i want to humor this yeah i mean you can't what are you gonna say to her like hey uh you know have you ever tripped on a piece of sidewalk whenever the moon is full full moon didn't do that but you remember the moon being full that you associated the two of those things together do you see where i'm going with the vaccines in your dad here can you prove that the moon didn't do it oh shit i'm a bad doctor so she's come to a conclusion about what's going on and also i think that uh you know

with the whole conversation about hippo rights oh no oh no i don't think that this is a hippo violation necessarily because there's no identifying information uh huh you know right but for these ding dongs who talk about hippo all day long and complain about stuff i would think that this would be an imaginary violation you hear me yeah i'm not moving it's kind of you i can hear you better now start over with what you know i can hear you start over with what's in the report in the report the t cells i wanted to know his t cells and they're low the b cells b is in boy those are also low the cd8 cells those are your absolute suppressor cells low and then the t4 t8 ratio high and it's very high so i looked up what does t4 t8 ratio high mean and i got instantly on web

md pubskine's lymphoma so i want you and your listeners to know as much here say as people is are saying that you know it's not affecting your t cells i have proof that it is and i i feel horrible that i let him get this it was out of my control to be honest the doctor don't feel bad that's what the german scientists have said is that they found massive increases in lymphoma Hodges lymphoma to be clear there's plenty of reasons that aren't lymphoma why someone would have a high ratio of these cells for instance you could have a viral infection that would cause this same test result typically this is a ratio that's discussed not in the context of lymphoma but in terms of hiv aids which makes sense because this woman did say that she was

badgering this va doctor to test her her her dad for hiv stuff so she thinks he has this non-existent condition of aids right interestingly you generally find decreased ratios of these cells in patients with hiv or aids so this test essentially is invalidating her entire argument that she came in with right which is why she had to run to web md to find a new thing to focus on and claim that her dad got from the vaccine right there's no good evidence anywhere the covid vaccines cause lymphoma but i think alex might just be getting confused because the vaccine can't cause lympha denopathy which sounds similar but is actually just swelling of the lymph nodes right so i think that's probably what's going on here although i do feel like this is very sad

yeah this is that's this person is a victim you know like this is this information space yeah i mean and and just to you know the education system failed and just every part from start to finish that leads you here is not just like her choices this is a structural issue to get here but i mean you know the education system might not have failed her in many other ways she may be very well informed and know a lot about a lot of things sure you know i think you can be susceptible to a lot of dumb narratives yeah absolutely i i don't know if that's necessarily a failing of the education system but it's a it's a failing of at least the people who disseminate information like alex and wherever she's pulling from to have some kind of a responsibility yeah

to hold themselves accountable for what they're putting out and she is a victim of that for sure 100 and i i i feel for her but i also think i mean she's just a person in panic who's whose father is is what i mean to all the parents is dying you know like of course trying to find some way to make the anti vex argument fit her particular case yep and it's just a bummer sad yeah so alex gets another call from someone named verne and i got excited because i wanted to do an earnest thing of course a verne anyway here's the call verne in texas thank you verne hi alex uh thank you for taking my call uh i'm not transgender my real name is

veronica but short for verne um hey verne listen i wanted to um i saw a doctor artist on i don't know what to mean with several interviews he did uh on the 11th two peters and van der sal um right me with mike adam you really need to get him on your show i know he went on to destroy your show i've heard snake venom i think snake venom's in the water yes yes and you know the amount of evidence he presents to substantiate his claim is remarkable and um he's you know the information actually has been out there on the internet since january 2020 so this is about stew peters conspiracy documentary called watch the water which features a chiropractor named brian artist and apparently claims that covet has to do with snake venom and the devil here's a synopsis

of the documentary from stew peters page okay quote the pandemic continues but its origins are still in a farious mystery how did the world get sick how did covet really spread and did the satanic elite tell the world about this bio weapon ahead of time dr brian artist has unveiled a shocking connection between this pandemic and the eternal battle of good and evil which began in the garden of eden wow snake venom huh yep naturally artist is using this documentary to sell a collection of supplements they well i mean hey you gotta sell supplements and he calls it the anti-v collection oh my god and he can get it for a limited time sale price of 109 dollars suffice it to say this is overpriced apparently after the backlash of people making fun of the documentary claiming that the

vaccine was meant to inject people with satan's dna right artists decided that he should do some damage control so now he's come out and say that he's been done dirty by peters documentary and it doesn't accurately capture his claims sure sure that said a giant ad for the documentary is still on the top of artist's home page wow leads into a big ad for the anti-v collection so i guess he's not really that opposed to it just because i was a no but publicity is good publicity i got to sell these 110 dollar pills sure i'll take what i can get limited time sale price jeezus yeah but he got done dirty by stu peters saying that this has to do with the garden of eden or some shit i like the snake venom conspiracy because that gives me some sort of hope like one thing that is is true

about snake venom and and creating anti anti venom is that is that there's just not a lot of it and it's really hard to get it's really hard to milk venom and we there's a shortage of all kinds of venom uh in in across the united states right so in this scenario someone out there is milking enough venom to poison the world which suggests that we won't have to worry about snake bites anymore have you considered yeah the tom hardy movie uh yes i have which one the venom into carnage i don't know haven't seen any second one oh man um they're great tom hardy's amazing so this is giving you some kind of optimism yeah and i will say that i'm a little bit optimistic too because in response to this call alex says like this is bullshit a series of coincidences remarkable

coincidences uh truly inspired by god like led him to this supposition and then after that he was able to kind of methodically prove that uh corona virus is actually uh snake venom specifically uh the kite snake and the cobra snake and what's interesting man let me ask you a question and i'm not poo pooing this but i've interviewed the top scientist i am the viral scans major universities they made a virus virus is able to replicate the body so do you know how much snake venom you'd have to put in the water supply to have these type of blood clotting effects and things that that a snake bite would do your snake bites you it pumps in you know say a tenth of an ounce of venom into your or or an ounce and then it makes you have blood clots in your leg rots off and you

die um i'm not poo pooing this one we'll get artists on it's i know it's the big big thing right now but to to say that snake venom is being dumped in the water supply it's diluted it breaks down electrochemically very quickly what you want is a virus because it replicates in the body so it spreads quickly yeah because because of i like venoms not contagious yeah yeah here's here's how bad it is uh as a theory your hole in that plot is so big not even alex can walk through it safely he doesn't think it's worth patching up yeah no and i think alex rightly recognizes like well if i were to accept this it undoes everything i've been saying yeah it completely upends everything that i claim i've proved over the course of the right right the pandemic and so i can't

i can't do this one also come on yes that come on that would be that would be the most reasonable response i think from alex would just be a come on get out of here i actually think it's fairly generous the way he's responding to her because it's uh i'm not poo pooing this is meant to be sort of a softening of the blow i know and then the the like you understand how much venom it would take and also viruses replicate and you need that so they do it on their own right yeah it's it's kind of nice that he's not just being like this is fucking dumb i mean yeah it is it is a little bit disconcerting to have him immediately say the most obvious thing which is we don't have enough venom to do that ma'am no one does yeah there's a there's an element of critical thinking that

he's engaging with this theory on and i find it offensive that he's capable of it in some circumstances indeed in others totally second there's an element of grace that he's showing towards this caller it's not combative no and it shows that there is a possibility that he can act that way towards people which is fucked up it is yeah although uh less uh unexpected is the i'll still interview him because everyone is talking about well sure i mean you gotta yeah you gotta see what he's gotta say i gotta chase that cloud you gotta you gotta hear a man out yeah he's a top scientist in his field of chiropractic blah blah blah he and dr group went to conferences together and drank piss yeah i bet i bet they did so uh alex it's another caller and uh boy i think a lot of

people you know sometimes if you don't engage with alex's material and you don't listen to his show you don't recognize how goddamn religiously insane this this show is yeah listen to this caller alex jones my brother in christ how are you today so i'm good brother thank you for calling absolutely uh the lord put uh on my heart to come call and give you an exhortation and just let you know you're a crusader a modern day crusader for these times before the return of our lord and savior as you know and you've spoke we're in the days of noah or the days of lot and many are just not awake but you as a crusader are leading those as a type like noah as they came up to the sea they looked behind him pharaoh's army was there today that's our evil and in front is a sea that

is impenetrable he as the word says knew that god will make a way and he part of the sea he made it across you're leading people in that way into the light into the truth and that's going to lead to great and mighty things doesn't that moses yeah i wasn't noa nope no is the flood guy right right he had a boat yeah hmm yeah yeah i think i think there's something troubling about like when you understand what alex is actually disseminating as information really interpret it and experience it as like you're fucking moses man yeah it's um you know sometimes i think i think you know like listen to this listen to the way this man is speaking and what he's saying about alex and then just go back in time and think maybe moses was just an asshole who said he did all

this shit and convinced enough people to believe it and then everybody forgot that he was full of shit hmm hmm i i just don't like hearing this shit on alex's show that's all it just makes me uncomfortable wow there's definitely that so alex has a a guest coming up another guest uh or a guess a guest because he hasn't had a guest yet this episode but um it is somebody we have uh not talked about in a little bit uh he is somebody who likes to get permits for stages sure for way fewer people than he plans to bring there oh fraudulently you might uh you might say certainly suspiciously close to fraud somebody likes to uh uh get the torch passed to him from roger stone mustache aficionado i think i think yeah you could say that alie alexander is back and alex's

introduction for him is perfect alie alexander is the editorial consultant for culture dot com political consultant philosopher and activist he's been uh consulting for republican campaigns conservative issues for more than 13 years and he's been doing at the national level but now he's much more interested in philosophy and building a better society give sin go dot com forward slash alie alexander gab pretty social at ali telegram and more he joins us now good pivot good pivot i'm a philosopher yeah i'm a oh sure okay oh sure i was i was previous to this a deeply embedded right wing uh political activist right was uh you know coordinating with paul gosar and all these other weirdos and you know i was involved in campaigns and stuff like that

was a aparachic sure alex might say um but now i'm into philosophy now because shit got too hot dan are you saying that you don't think people can change not ali what's it what's what is his philosophy that he's pivoted to that he's going to really kind of blow our minds and make us forget that he's a monster that's a fantastic question i want to know you have a notepad i will i think you should take notes over the course of uh some of these clips okay if you can determine what his philosophy is get an idea of what ali alexanderism might be okay so uh the first clip maybe not so much philosophical but uh it has to do with uh reports that his periscope channel like the videos aren't available anymore yeah well you know it's it's absolutely fascinating to me i have

i have my periscope videos i was one of the most popular people on the periscope service and they have all these videos and now the press reports it as now deleted videos uh twitter deleted my yeah like ali i saw ali alexander national news hiding videos you were bitching when they took your channel yeah yeah so when i got sued i've been sanctioned like you got rid of your youtube your sanction no they did that yeah they took it away a news article saying that ali's videos have since been deleted doesn't necessarily imply that he did the deleting i get that he's sensitive but this is a little sad also alex's situation is entirely different the reason he's in trouble here is because when he was sued there was an order for the preservation of materials related

to the lawsuit this was prior to his youtube channel coming down and in the intermediate period no one took any action to preserve the videos that were on the channel that were relevant to the case and so they cannot be found now no one is mad at him for deleting videos the issue is that he failed in his duty to preserve evidence it's a pretty big difference but if alex gives the appearance of understanding the distinction it becomes too obvious that the courts aren't oppressing him at all and that his actions have brought him into the situation that he's in and that's an intolerable conclusion for the audience to have yeah yeah don't do that no so they can just back but if we say i deleted videos they think that they think that they're smart and

making me look dumb but they're dumb and i'm not dumb you're dumb yeah dummy so uh before this a couple days before this it was announced that ali was going to be cooperating with the january sixth committee right he wants to give a very opposite perspective or a position on this this appearance sure sure sure because i don't think that play is well although alex has said he's going to parlay with the fbi right right right well i mean i i assume ali is uh thinking of uh the great marcus aurelius whenever marcus said you know uh you gotta you gotta pay the piper that was uh saint augustine oh shit man i this is why ali is the philosopher and not me you've got to go with more religiously that's a good point off with ali yeah the stoics weren't really his

bag huh and so ali has a bit of a bit of news to break about what the jan six committee is actually up to well let me go ahead and break some news i've not i've not told any reporter this and and only my lawyers and i are aware of this but the january sixth committee is going to try to outlie out out uh outlaw bitcoin okay they're gonna i mean this is a thing they cannot do this like canada but this is where this is leading and i knew this in december okay but i want to break it here on info wars so with what you're gonna see the committee do they're gonna say well donald trump did this roger stone did this roody did this ali did this alex did this here's criminal referrals here's things we're not gonna criminally refer but we really like wink wink nudge nudge the

justice department to move on and here are 10 policy recommendations to keep the right wing from ever organizing again you're gonna see recommendations in there that try to outlaw telegram try to outlaw or censor bitcoin increase the regulatory environment for bitcoin so that it's harder for more americans to get in while the rest of the world competes with us on this sovereign on this sovereign currency i mean it's it's very astute very astute so this is ali playing a preemptive defense game because i suspect that he has a pretty good idea that there were some shady fucking transactions involving groups that were involved in january 6 that were done by bitcoin and the telegram is a platform that a lot of them use to plan and incite people this is an attempt

to hijack that conversation before it even happens because the ultimate end of it is threatening to some aspects of ali's brand that's always doing here right i wouldn't be too surprised though if there were conversations in the not too distant future about more regulation and oversight of bitcoin but sure i don't know how much that's gonna involve the jan six committee seems like that's just long overdue and there'll be some kind of a financial nightmare that comes along probably to do with nfts right right right and uh we'll end up in a situation where we like well we've got it some sure this doesn't happen again yeah one thing uh on my philosophy watch here nice uh he disagrees i would imagine uh with uh lautza uh in so far as he does not agree that

one who speaks does not know because he sure fucking talks a lot i think that you're right although i don't think that would be formally codified in his philosophy i'm writing it down that's step one okay i think another part of the philosophy that you'll see is like uh you know kind of a bobby mcfaren asked don't worry be happy sure kind of i like it i'm really happy to be in studio today and i'm happy to be with you one because you know it's good to be next to somebody who's going through some of the same hell that we are but i i think i've done this whole 15 months wrong a lot of it's been woe is me why isn't the conservative movement doing this or that and then i've been watching the series the chosen which has been really good i've been getting some

counseling from some some christian friends and they're just like you got a smile through this morally and so you know i think that i think that like that's my task that's kind of my cross to bury right now but everybody everybody if you're listening to this you are part of this and you can play a role in this you need a red pill your neighbor you need to make prophetic statements about the j6 committee and what they're going to do to you and your neighbors so that when that time comes around your neighbor says wow that person's right what channel do they watch well they watch info wars you need to make prophetic statements right will later be used to promote info right right i think i think we've a number two is eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die yeah i think

he loves act pectinus i think that's where we're going i thought you were talking about uh davy matthew's back i was well there was one in two in my book on on philosophers uh there's whatever and they switch back and forth whatever you said and tripping billions hey what are you gonna say i'm just gonna a two step into this crash all right now those are my two davy matthew's band songs so ali has a belief that um the gop uh they don't want to lose the midterms right but also they don't want to win too much well obviously because if they win too much people will want them to do things that's how i would interpret it right ali interprets it more as like if they win too much then the people who are going to have major power are like marjorie taylor green

paul gosar right these fringe figures will have more of an influence whereas if they have a small victory right then kevin mccarthy will stay being able to whip people into place to get things accomplished whereas i don't think i don't think that makes much sense because if they have a small victory then the conservative people like uh marjorie individuals have more power far more because they will be the deciding factor whether or not something actually yeah i mean his his that's the exact opposite of how it actually works you bet yeah but that is what ali is promoting or what he's suggesting that is a provided prophetic statement that later on will get people to listen to info a very small victory would be the best thing possible for

marjorie's range voices 100 percent um but no they the the gop only wants that ah you have to think about this way if kevin mccarthy gets too large a red wave the conservatives are in control if kevin mccarthy just gets a little off the tip top then he's in control and then we're just going to have horrible legislation they're not going to go on offense we're not going to have a committee that investigates the summer riots we're not going to have a reverse day six committee to investigate the insurrection that happened on november third and the fbi setup that happened on january 6 we're not going to have any of that so what they're trying to do and this is what mit romney and list chain you're doing they're setting us up for a tiny red wave so that they can control it and

then 2024 will all be about pinning disantis and trump against each other by taking trump off of a ballot or two i mean this is the coup part three and what's frustrating is a la you're very successful political animals people respect you yeah i like that at the end i mean that is so dumb yeah like that is something that if you said that in any kind of reasonable space the person sitting across from me would have to laugh at you well i mean i think that some of these priorities that ali has are just never going to happen anyway right right right for sure whether you had a giant majority in the house or not um but i think that the possibility of having some like trivial ass uh going nowhere committee or something like that yeah marjorie taylor green wants to start totally i think the

likelihood of that is much higher if there's a small victory because she could use whatever leverage she has in terms of passing something that is a priority for kevin mccarthy right into like you have to put me on this thing right and i will go along with your caucus right like it doesn't make any sense it appears that ali does not understand how negotiating power structures function like the the more you need from me and the more power i have the the more likely i am to get what i want in exchange for giving you what you want it's very simple like if there is a 60 percent republican thing in the house yeah your one vote does not really hold as much clout as it would in the alternative so i don't know but i love the which is why joe manchin is singularly

capable of destroying the world right now because that way the less your majority is the more likely you are to have somebody the more important individuals are yeah exactly the um the thing i love though is uh the you know people take you seriously and ali's like yeah i know they do so excited because i'm so smart so uh we talk a little bit of here about january sixth defendants and ali says something that i think is deeply problematic and so let me tell the government this yes i regularly talk to j6 defendant lawyers over 30 of them and they tell me about the evidence that they're looking at on these secure laptops and they're not allowed to make it public so they can't talk to anybody about it they can't screenshot it they can't do anything the judges won't let it

and this evidence in one case would exonerate five other cases so what you're watching is a slow moving train wreck of plea deals and what happens and they said the president for this yes it's the it's the model for all the rest of the country right and so what happens is let's say i get 20 plea deals well then this next person takes the plea deal and then they get a harsher sentence because they didn't or or they get uh they they get taken to a jury trial or bench trial and then they get convicted and then well they get a harsher sentence because they have to have a harsher sentence than the plea deal and so what happens is when the exonerating information comes out here and then all these people who got a plea deal say well actually we want to revisit it the judges say

nope we're gonna we're gonna quash that motion we're gonna quash that if there's actual evidence that's exonerating that these lawyers are in possession of they could get it in front of a judge even if it is confidential or something like that if they have this they'd be able to present it the only way they wouldn't is if they didn't attempt to look i suspected what alec what ali is talking about isn't so much evidence as it is heavy insinuation this is the kind of thing that is called evidence on info wars but probably wouldn't play uh in an actual court it's kind of persuasive in the court of public opinion i feel like that's what ali is talking about yeah yeah also if ali is telling the truth and january six defense lawyers are leaking privileged

information to him that he's then discussing on info wars that is a gigantic confidentiality problem and there could be some real consequences for that these lawyers might be risking disbarment which honestly wouldn't be too surprising considering that ali's last lawyer jonathan moseley was just disbarred for breaking six rules of professional conduct sure yeah so i don't know if i were him i would stop insinuating that you're in contact with lawyers who are doing things that would probably get them disbarred it is it is kind of uh amazing that despite the the massive amount of consequences coming their way through the legal system none of them have really spent enough time like educating themselves on how this is gonna work you know like there's

so many things where you're like no you're that's no what but but what are you doing but in this case i think ali's just talking shit so i mean i don't think i don't think that he that's probably true i don't think he's actually putting any of these lawyers in jeopardy i think that what he he's not saying anything specific but he's being um he's showing a posture of revealing privileged information sure and that that i think could be something that courts do not look at fondly it doesn't go over well no maybe not disbarment but certainly some kind of assenture i mean i i'm imagining that it's not quite putting out a million dollar bounty but yeah yeah that's actually totally cool yeah yeah 100 so uh do you want any camo clothing

no i do not good i have never been needing to uh disappear into the woods that means that you still get to protest yay if you wear camouflage to a rally from now on you get what's called an fbi threat tag okay that hasn't always been the case think about this we survived the tea party we survived the the the gifford shooting we survived all of those controversies where still you could wear militia gear and not automatically get tagged now because of january six and what they did to our beautiful peaceful protest if you wear camouflage at any protest across this country and the fbi can identify you you get what's called an fbi threat tag associated with you and you get an fbi profile created for you he sounds like an excited

angry baby yeah i mean people complain about me being screaming and loud all the time but Jesus that's annoying yeah yeah and also like i think that um i i i i am i am flabbergasted the idea that the fbi would open files on anybody who wore camo uh at a protest i i mean it's ludicrous yeah the the waste of resources that that would be uh typifying is just i mean i know that our government likes to waste resources sure no it's everything to do this is an unthinkable level of waste yeah i mean i i suppose maybe the best you could say for that is just like yeah the people who did the whole you know uh zip tie handcuffs and everything they were tagged for good reason and it wasn't just because they were they weren't tagged they were arrested yeah yeah exactly but

that's a more individual it's based on actions not clothing right whatever yeah that's insane you know how many camo like designs but i mean what is what is camo if you're gonna do that if you're gonna say that what is camo well i mean i guess in some spheres if you wore like a pattern of a chain link fence that could be camo exactly if you if you were one of those pictures that had people paint you and until you disappeared into the background that seems like maybe a task master episode yeah i mean wouldn't wouldn't real camo be like wearing a regular ass t-shirt and jeans well you're gonna get on the fbi's list for that exactly anyway um this is this is where i think some philosophy comes in so okay close attention all right i will ollie alexander how do we stop

a civil war the globalist neutrino trigger how do we de-escalate this well you know i want i want to in that i want to answer the question you just asked what happened january 6 i don't know and i'm and i'm actually convinced sorry that that some of the conspiracy ends and then satan's domain starts because i i'm you know i'm you know you you follow this stuff way more than i have you know you and you've done it for over 25 years and i have a great understanding of campaigns large organizations and government but i i don't see something like this fully cooperating with each other without a supernatural force influencing everything yeah here's what i say uh guilty that's that's that's what i say to that i i mean honestly all all evidence all

trial based everything is done that guy said that because he did it duh come on i mean come on you don't say that not even a crazy person says that unless they did it that's a did it thing to say you might as well have been like i wanted to over yeah that was me a conspiracy goes so far but then satan ah guilty because how can people do things if they're not supernatural it's too many jail him sir bailiff uh-huh yeah ali ali is a little bit much i you know i think that listening to this i started to realize that i didn't miss him i so i hate him this is the worst though i do think that he is the kind of cat who comes on and uh ends up uh you know the saying the quiet part loud a little bit alice i was talking to someone i was talking to a conservative

publisher and i explained to that conservative publisher you don't need to convince the public they need to chill white women who have ping pong between the two parties and that affects like 30 or 40 different districts in america so it's like fulton county it's orange county in california and that means the difference of this many seats and so what they they're targeting white women okay with these things and white women don't like scandals they don't like the accusation of being called a racist but they don't like crt so right now we have crt turning out white women in record numbers for their kind of hammer crt yeah we gotta hammer it you know if i was advising you know some of these giant republican organizations i would say crt is something that

the tea party stopped to steal and trump wasn't because these white women know their little five-year-old white babies on a racist they know their babies ain't a racist and they don't want them to come home and call them a racist okay you know you know i think this is a little cynical wow yeah that's so i think i i think that uh you know that that's kind of just a good summation of of how how you know this operates and i think i i think that you hear similar things that aren't as craven and cynical in terms of like what messaging surrounding medicare for all is right right what what messaging is most attractive to x y or z but that's you know largely surrounding an issue that is real yeah whereas crt and all that stuff is a manufactured problem that they're like

oh yes if we drive this messaging surrounding this this non-issue right it scares white women and it'll inspire enough to vote that we can flip a couple things yeah i mean the just this idea that listen it does not matter if crt means anything it doesn't matter if what we're talking about is educating people about racism it does not that's nowhere important right what's important is making people think that if you go to school your kids are going to tell you you're a racist where where mom you're racist exactly and then the mom's going to be like well we've got to vote for republicans so they can wait so then they can dominate the critical race there and then that would lower the status of so okay so they're just racists yep so ali there's one last clip here and

ali has an interesting take on how people like you and me i would guess if he was uh to talk to us he would he would look at us as like cavemen we are we were we're backwards thinking folks whereas people like him who want a religiously ordered society basically a theocracy right they are the real innovators they are the real forward thinking people who have like a stop one okay eh there has to be a change in our consciousness i'm not one of these new age christ consciousness folks or whatever no but it's true when we all change our consciousness and get it yeah that's when we win yeah and and that's what we have to do and that's what jesus did in contrast to the Pharisees and the Sadducees he said there's a different way to abide by the law and by the way

now it's universal and so we need to have a different way of saying we believe in these archetypes and we believe in these traditions and you don't need to pay attention to the republican label or the conservative label anymore these work for humanity they've led to a population of seven billion people and we should applaud that and we want to go to ten billion we need to want to go we're gonna go interstellar exactly so there's a move though to get rid of what works because the globalists have their new model they want to bring in transhumanism it's super weird because they're archaic they are everything they say they're they're the pagans they're the cavemen you know we're the people who are dreaming loving and coming together yeah they claim we're

not yeah you know like let's not forget it was the church that added harmony to music it was the church that funded art that led to the renaissance and so in a lot of ways we are always seeking on the right to commune with god in innovative ways that don't get rid of tradition that roots us at a civil society that's fascinating oh i think i think ali might want to unpack how the church was like the only people who had money at a certain time too fun certain things like arts interesting and i think you might want to also take a little bit of a step back and recognize the a massive censorship that was involved in what the church would fund oh yeah yeah i just i don't think he would necessarily oh i guess he probably would because it would be censoring

things that he was opposed to so he'd probably be fine with that kind of rank uh centralized censorship no he wouldn't because they would be censoring things that he himself likes for him but he does not want the culture to enjoy and when this happens as it always does people go oh wait i didn't know you were going to do that this has gotten out of my control and now we have a pope yeah yeah maybe maybe that's true maybe that's true um but yeah i think i think his conception is a little bit limited in terms of the uh the the the extent to which the church was interested in uh the arts i mean as as somebody well you know i am a i'm an appreciator of music that's true for for somebody to claim straight facedly the church brought harmony church brought

harmony to music is an insult of i don't know what level of proportion can exist but it is that proportion well i looked into it and i regret to inform you that the church invented harmony really no holy shit that's crazy how did they do it was that the angels um yes well that would make sense i i don't know and i also think it's really silly to claim that christianity is responsible for there being seven billion people in the world i mean that the things that he just said there are so ridiculous to claim that i i mean he would if he was ever pressed to actually believe that stuff or explain himself yeah he'd be like well you know i was saying this right man i think that that's one of the things that i i i've brought up about ali in the past a number of times yeah

he's just a shit talking extremist yeah like he's just a zealot and it's really outrageous some of the stuff that he ends up uh saying first of all some of it's just dumb yeah and then some of it is stuff like january sixth had to be the devil's doing because how do you coordinate all these people without a supernatural force your honor guilty right yeah okay man wow why do you talk publicly i mean you know it is it is kind of a an example of something that always exists in this type of a movement which is just a person who's willing to say anything i think that they have a lot of those people well yeah i mean well yeah yeah that's fair but like i think their movement is lousy with those people right but i mean anything just anything yep wild yep how do you

how do you go to sleep at night you know people ask that whenever they talk to serial killers and that kind of thing and i think they're serial killers they probably sleep just fine i'm talking about ali how does he sleep at night his brain has to just be filled with like reasons that people hate him right he sleeps on i was going to try and go into a mattress ad um i yeah i don't know yeah i i these people are a mystery to me um but um i think they're i have some trouble coming yeah yeah but we'll see um anyway jordan we'll be back for another episode but we have reached the end of this one and alex in the present sucks yep sucks truth shitty coverage of the uh the subway shooting shitty phone calls and shitty conversation with ali alexander oh yeah woof

yeah but hopefully greener pastures next time uh hey look that deep exhale i got some good news that's a hopeful deep exhale okay well i'm hopeful about the dreamy creamy summer it's gonna be a good way it is upon us it is happening well i guess it's not yet actually because we got a couple days left for 20 yep um but hey uh we'll be back on 420 i think is that true i think so we will be back inaugurating the dreamy creamy summer i might actually end up eating an ice cream thing on the next episode i think you would have to i might yep but we'll find out then until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter sat knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed jordan yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo

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