Knowledge Fight - #680: July 31-August 1, 2003

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to see what they can find.  In this installment, Alex misreports a staggering number of stories, and warns people about the dangers of owning multiple toothbrushes. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge everybody welcome back knowledge right I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're couple dudes like to sit around where should put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan Dan what's up quick question she's aggressive I'm sorry what's up good question uh what's your bright spot my bright spot today Jordan is something that I did not know existed until recently I was doing some grocery shopping and I happened to spy with my little eye I saw frozen mini pancakes okay frozen mini pancakes yes like I go no oh no no no no I don't know the name of the brand and no plugs no but it definitely not I thought they were going to be really gross

probably or just a disaster but I thought like oh why the fuck not give it a try a song that you feel when a novel thing shows up where you're like this is going to be garbage and you grab it and you put it in your car yeah of course you're amazing and so it's these things are great of course they are good texture tastes like a good pancake and they take 30 seconds to microwave it's just like do you want a couple of tiny little pancakes that's great boom that's great I can get you some pancakes right now I might want a pancake right now just tell me to say the word I'll get you some little mini pancakes I'm gonna surprise you sometime in the middle of an episode in the coming weeks and you better make me a mini pancake it's so easy to make pancakes I agree with that

but there are things that I don't always have in the house right eggs pancake mix I don't know if I can make pancakes with coconut milk you can and they're really good oh yeah yeah yeah not as good as I don't have coconut milk I have oat milk not as good I like oat milk more than I like that works for pancakes way more now I'll never know because these ones are so good I'll never need to make pancakes again because I've got tiny little frozen we've come to the end of our show yeah what's your bright spot my bright spot is there is a new album from the band Royxop okay the Icelandic I've seen that name before the Icelandic answer to Daft Punk do they they make some beep boop noise music they sure do make some beep boops they work they worked extensively with cakes of

convenience and that's the Norwegian Simon and Garfunkel I'm against the monarchy when it comes to convenience exactly you got Icelandic Daft Punk Norwegian Simon and Garfunkel I'm pretty sure Lady Troms from Belgium despite my inability to understand but yeah it's fantastic all right it's really great I've been looking for some new beep boops I think it's great beep boop man yeah I'll check it out so Jordan today we are sticking around in the old past because I don't really care about Alex is doing in the present day we're all dead already yeah what more can he say I got another million dollars yeah I find that really difficult to get motivated for yeah and I really do think that maybe a more productive use of our time is analyzing and looking at some of

this stuff in the past and recognizing how it implicates and actually provides greater context for the stuff that's happening in the present day yeah I I agree with you it does seem like listening to the show in the present is just a exercise in futility instead of being part of a larger dumb shit exactly hey guys this guy's a racist but right yeah he's yelling about stuff yeah he's really depressed he got a million dollars now everyone's gonna die he's wrong about the bible congratulations well we might get into that even well I mean that's just the case but before we get into this episode where we're going to be going over July 31st and August 1st 2003 that's Thursday for the it is actually it's Thursday and Friday no shit yeah oh yes I only

know that this time because in one of the episodes Alex said it's Friday all right okay so before we get to that let's say hello to some new wonks oh that's a great idea so first honey butter bagheera thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you next Roger Stone's dreamy creamy steamy orgy with aftercare thank you so much you are now a policy wank i'm a policy wonk thank you very much is that like lotion that aftercare yeah i would like a tattoo aftercare i would assume yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah next gran john borbeard thank you so much you are now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you next the shrubbery of liberty thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much thanks

charles ward was an antiquarian from infancy thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much do you know where that comes from no i don't it's a line in the case of charles dexter ward by hb lovecraft there we are one of the i don't know i don't know i haven't read that one in a while that one might be problematic yeah but it doesn't leap out to me as uh oh no hold on i think that one is not good uh oh shit not good that might be the case for most of his work anyway this is why people can't have nerdy shoutouts whenever the nerdy thing is for you because you gotta you gotta deal with it you gotta go to like my nerdy shoutouts i'm like hey you know that's all i do i've got to wrestle with the fact that

exactly yes a monster for a greater part of his career anyway uh next the three wise men gwee gwee binky and baba thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you and frotter para misterio thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you so jordan we're going to cover these two here days okay in the past right and our last past episode we saw him talk to uh chasadoski right the global research right um and bill bow shears never never a bad time for a bill bow shears and the guy who was trying to get arnold uh taking off the or uh not arnold he's trying to get gray davis taken out of office right which would lead to arnold coming in office suspiciously paid for

by the guy who wanted to do it but then had to drop out because he's suspiciously paid for it no no no you're thinking of darrell isa he wasn't he wasn't that's right it wasn't a direct like he was being paid by him i said had funded a lot of the early efforts to get the uh recall recall going right not necessarily connected to uh this guy's got his name is colloquium that's right fun names it's really none of that is important for today because it doesn't it didn't happen yeah nothing nothing is related but here's not a context drop from today's show no one calls him on just lies that are so blatant it makes bill clinton look like uh the guy who wouldn't tell a lie chopping down the cherry tree who was that guy

what who was that guy alex the guy who wouldn't tell a lie chopping down the cherry alex who was that guy oh boy who was that guy alex seems like a foundation that's foundational lore yeah okay you can't forget lore that's uh yeah that's uh that's our boy washington right right alex should know that one yeah you would think does not so um alex opens the show here on the 31st of july in a bit of a mood where he's uh thinking like man maybe i don't do a great job generally well that's fair ladies and gentlemen it's a big big powerful important show today also i want to stop right there for a second i really am coming around on the idea that rogan stole powerful from alex okay i think that there is a decent you know i always think alex has powerful

like uh he's been going for so long with the powerful we're in 2003 he's he regularly starts his show saying this is a powerful brog right right right and rogan does that too did did rogan start his shows on fear factor with this is going to be a powerful broadcast i don't believe so but he did uh news radio every episode started right this is a fan this is going to be a powerful broadcast handyman yeah no i i do kind of think that rogan is he stole that from alex yeah that could be it is the 31st of july 2003 i'm alex jones and i rant and i rave and i analyze and i predict what here on the show monday through friday from 11 to 2 central and then back from nine to midnight and i've been dropping the ball i really have been dropping the ball

i'm not covering the news folks yep it's true it's nice of him to admit to responsibility for his his failures well there's less responsibility to it and more just sort of he's descriptively saying that he is not covering the news oh you would expect like a change of behavior with someone well yeah i mean that's what an apology is it's uh admitted some do have wrongdoing and a promise no longer to continue that behavior i feel like it's kind no he spends a lot of the show ranting about how he doesn't like sports uh and how you're in a cult if you uh watch so i have never considered the possibility that you could just go up to somebody and say i've failed you and then move on as though nothing ever happened and there's no problem in you to and then continue to fail

them i will say i mean he does get to some news if you want to call it that uh but but you know not not any more than normal i would say sure which is a low low bar right um but alex does say something here at the beginning that i think is really interesting and then he does not explain any further which i need him to explain this because this is this is fascinating okay i haven't listened to my own warnings here on the show and i've said it many times if you don't consciously listen to this show with some key parameters in mind this broadcast actually aids the new world order the illuminati the globalist the crime syndicate what you do not listen to this show with a couple of key understandings a several key parameters you are actually uh aiding the new

world order and that has happened to a certain degree in my own life here so i know kind of what are you saying because he said stuff like this before which is that if you don't like take an active participation in the info war sure then his show what it's doing is acclimating you to these horrible things that the globalists are doing so you'll think that they're normal right and you won't fight back against them it's like the the pot uh getting a little warmer with the frog and sure sure serving that purpose unless you're active in some way but as opposed to waking you up he's numbing you right right yeah but the problem that i have is what are those parameters you have to have in mind um that's what and i heard that i was like i cannot wait to know what

these parameters are that alex thinks you need in order to engage with his work maybe i just don't have those parameters in place i think i see i think it's uh i i don't remember physics very well but i think it's up down uh love and then charm uh i don't forget the other two quarks but i think those are the parameters i think it's a a b b a a b b why up down up down left right left right a b b i was thinking of the the code for uh a lad and i might have gotten it wrong right right i don't quite remember um yeah i don't know what those parameters are but i was i was really interested because i think that there's a um like if there is a recognition that alex is like all right there are these 3d glasses that you have to view this through or else it looks like a

jumbled mass right i would like to know what he thinks those 3d glasses are metaphorically i mean if if maybe what we're describing here is is there an earpiece that you can wear that is analogous to the sunglasses and they live right right or is there a cipher yes of course that i can translate alex's you gotta put a thing on then you spin the wheel to get the code i get it but we don't have any parameter explained and so i guess i'll just have to do the best i can that's about it so here's a story uh actually alex getting to the news okay a marriott yesterday the federal marriott's allowed to have cameras in the room i didn't mention it yesterday uh it's wall to wall insanity it's totally out of control and there's really no way to track

an onslaught of this level we are living in total bedlam the meter for insanity is is is close to pegging and this is all being done by design and it looks like the government's getting ready for a mass extermination operation wow it really will make the 20 million they killed in uh in in in in nazi germany and the 50 million stalin killed and the 50 million mal killed and the two million whole pot killed and the hundreds of thousands that the del killed look like look uh small in comparison so a point that i really want to stress in my coverage of these episodes from the past and a big part of the reason why i think they're important to discuss is that doom is always right around the corner alex is no different than any of these doomsday

preachers who try to rile up their congregation with claims that the end is near only to be wrong and then do the whole thing over again a little bit later pretending the first time didn't happen when we hear alex and the people like him in the right wing media and parts of our government playing this game in the present day it's important to understand that they're not serious this is an act that they're doing and it's an act that they're doing for a reason yeah yeah you know i mean i feel like even if you are making an absurd amount of money it would still get old creatively after a while right well you're coming at this with the expectation that there is a creative point wow that's a really good there may not be that's a really good point yeah you know i never

considered not everybody is driven by like a necessarily a creative impulse sure some people are driven by like order like you know liking spreadsheets and well i mean yeah but i mean he's got a radio show that's not necessarily artistic but that's what i'm saying in my head all like radio shows have to be based on some sort of creative desire or need to do so that it never occurred to me that you could do a radio show like go into a coal mine every morning just being like oh i'm putting my little hat on and clocking in yeah but instead of like doing something productive like mining you're just scaring people right bullshit right right so uh yeah unfortunately i think that might be the case yeah but you're right that started with the story uh that alex was

talking about about cameras and it's it's about marriott and security cameras and alex is entirely misreporting that that story there was a guy named brian brewer who found a camera in his bathroom's light fixture at a hotel he was staying at in tennessee he'd accidentally broken the light which is how he ended up finding it and in response he filed a lawsuit against marriott for 1.5 million dollars i can't find the story uh that alex is responding to here but the actual case was filed in september 2002 so i'm guessing that in july 2003 either the case was dismissed or they reached a settlement right the issue is that the courts were never deciding or even asked to decide if marriott can put cameras in their bathrooms because that's not an issue here no

you can't do that the presumption is that someone else possibly an employee or possibly a past guest had put the camera there and the suit was against the hotel because they didn't catch that and brewers privacy was violated right even when alex is doing this absurd performance of being so overwhelmed by the news and how he needs to cover these important stories he can't convey basic details of the things he's talking about that's wholly because the actual events that happened don't help him reinforce his conspiracy conspiracy narratives so he just makes shit up right well i mean let me throw this at you is it possible that the settlement was in order to make sure that nobody can put cameras in the marriott bathrooms anymore they put cameras in the

marriott bathrooms in order to monitor them that could be or they could have done a thing where they're like we will put so many cameras right bathroom that there's no room for anybody many cameras so you can't get tricked by being like oh somebody well what if somebody's watching me no i don't know this is a after your football game press conference yeah i got you that that may be you know i'd love to see the ruling on this i think that would be an interesting one um so we got we got a little bit of another story maybe alex is actually uh getting to the news he's not dropping the ball they're building dozens of bio weapons lab level four now the resident evil type stuff and um raccoon city we're going to build them in your big major cities and the admitted

plan is to prepare a bureaucracy for forced inoculations for dozens of bio weapons so called vaccines so the people that launched the bio attacks are now going to make it a new giant industry to forcibly inject you and they're building the giant bureaucracy to carry that out and a houston chronicle reported the preparing the national draft of uh doctors who have refused to take the shot and so the draft would make them take it and then force them to give it to you this is the houston chronicle the top epidemiologist and others at major universities have refused to take it saying that they're unknown bizarre compounds involved in the injection bizarre unknown resembling bio weapons but again please take your injections so this is just a nice reminder

that everything alex is doing and has been doing with covet is just a huge extension of the same propaganda game he plays with every vaccine that makes the news it's always a bio weapon and the top epidemiologist at major prestigious universities have said so because of bizarre compounds hell we even got resident evil in that raccoon city right umbrella coronavirus the whole fucking thing this here this clip is about the smallpox vaccine but honestly it could just be about any of them it doesn't matter he just does this also they didn't build dozens of bsl4 labs as alex calls them bio weapons labs that didn't happen no as of the present day there are only 13 in all of north america so man it's a little off you know the problem with that kind of another

false story the problem with that clip is we really could have used a bunch of bureaucratic infrastructure built in advance for inoculations sure some of them some of them may have been helpful in some ways but i don't know necessarily if i mean the fantasies that he has i don't know if they would be as productive towards that goal doubtful and also i don't think that having dozens and dozens of bsl4 labs would really help us that much would it increase safety or decrease safety i don't know if he would actually even have an effect well that's true because i don't think that they're nearly as dangerous as alex makes them out to be but i also don't think that there's so much work that needs to be done at them that you need them in every city or something

you know you know how it is in like sim city or civilization sure you don't need a amphitheater in every right right colony or settlement that you make right right so maybe they partner with somebody you know like baskin robbins and duncan donuts like that kind of thing so the bsl laboratories are also working with like uh you know um food processing plants that's usually good wait is that a problem no certainly is in the present day so alex has a fun story uh the man i love this story i am so glad that this comes up more than once on this episode by the way i was back down at ut last night doing some shooting for a film i'm working on just because they've got some great you know background scenes uh some some great locations and i'm there in a lab on the perception

in the psychology department i look down and there are DARPA documents all over the place mind control you name of course i got out of there uh you know i'm not gonna go in there and get around such things you know i don't want to get near anything classified i don't even know that was classified but there's your little mind control stuff there just laying around in piles just just everywhere DARPA taking over everywhere no way to you know even try to ignore it if i wanted to yep sure sure left all these top secret documents lying around just filming and i accidentally stumbled upon mind control plans what a uh i mean you could only call that uh divine uh kismet i think that's what it must be i would actually like to define this a different way yeah first of all it

didn't happen but oh yeah if it did uh alex is the worst person in the world because he didn't take those documents like why what you could get in trouble sure what sort of mission of information warfare is he engaged in that he would find DARPA mind control documents and be like oh i don't want none of this no no what he did was he neatly collected them into a pile and put them in a folder and left it on the desk and he was like slowly backed away from that's a shadow gate situation that's like a hey i don't deal with it i don't get into the secret stuff this is this is terrifying right whatever man so anyway he'll get back to that later sure um but uh i guess we gotta talk about seat belts well here in the us they say in the 1998 plan the national seat belt

initiative that it's about funding internal checkpoints that the toll roads are really just the funding mechanism for internal checkpoints and the satellite tracking system is to fund the police and military out searching your goods and then when you have to serve in national service which they're about to pass guaranteed after the next terror attack launched with a military industrial complex you're going to have to serve until you're 65 out there on the road one of the many doonies helping search the cars let's talk to john and indiana all right good call go to call so first quick point alex guaranteed that after the next terror attack which would be a false flag by the military industrial complex citizens would be forced to do public service searching

people's vehicles at checkpoints until they're 65 none of that has even come close to happening and about a thousand different things have happened that alex is called false flag terror attacks committed by the military industrial complex my point is that alex is constantly wrong about everything he says pretty much you know he would be right if he was just like you know after that next terror attack they're gonna make you take your shoes off forever even after you don't need to anymore mm-hmm yeah well yeah i think he'll probably claim he predicted that after it happens yeah that's a good one to predict predicting that you'll be forced to work on the side of the road searching cars until you're 65 that's a bigger swing yeah

yeah also alex seems very concerned about seatbelt rules back in 2003 sure he did become a little bit of a seatbelt snitch when he was harassing humanitarian volunteers near the border last year but his preoccupation in the past seems a little bit long larger in this clip alex is rambling about how the government is going to put tracking chips into cars so they can tax you by the mile as you drive this is something we've discussed a bit in the past as it was one of the proposals that was being discussed in terms of ways that states could recoup some of the money they were losing on gas taxes since cars were using less gas uh there's new technologies emerging sure that shortfall of gas tax revenue has serious consequences in terms of budgets that

are needed to maintain the roads that these cars are driving on so the proposal is actually a pretty sensible one uh it makes intuitive sense anyway alex is saying that the 1998 national seatbelt initiative was about funding internal checkpoints naturally this is not true yeah most of the document is about increasing the public's awareness of the benefits of wearing a seatbelt and framing the decision uh to not wear one appropriately this involves a focus on the issue as one that relates to your health as well as making sure that um the perception wasn't solely focused on traffic deaths because a huge factor is the injuries and uh that the accidents cause and expenses that people rack up and public expenses for that matter right throughout the

document it's super clear that states are the ones who make traffic laws and the president or congress can express that they would like states to do more but this is up to the states they do propose a four-part plan and one of the parts is quote conduct high visibility enforcement of seatbelt laws this is probably what alex is exaggerating out into his dumb conspiracy but it's just the report expressing that if people don't think laws are going to be enforced they're probably less likely to follow them click at her ticket yeah as always alex is just making shit up to craft scary stories for his audience but it's fun that it's like based on bill clinton being like hey people we need to get more people wearing seatbelts because it's been empirically shown to save lives

and cause less uh injuries and accidents yeah it is this is one of those such a like we're we're all like oh my god these anti-maskers are terrible what if they were in a different time would they be anti seatbelt yeah yes they would yes yes and yes they would be anti seatbelt and they'd be coming up with elaborate reasons the whole same fucking yeah again this is terrible yeah and you see it yep so uh caller calls in and uh he and alex are complaining about how i guess that if you're uh an undocumented immigrant you get to like live 50 people to a house but if you're just a good old white american sure that's not allowed okay okay is this a problem it is for these guys okay it was funny what you mentioned a few minutes ago about um illegal

occupancy but multiple boys fighting dwellings by illegal aliens of course living here in new york it is true because i see that all the time you see houses like two family houses converted into multiple dwellings where you literally will have dozens and i'm telling you these are right near me i see these places of people who are illegal immigrants living in these small occupancies as obvious as a as a a punch in the in the nose and they do nothing about it matter there's been an order with all over the country that the local mob bosses that run the governments and i mean small towns big cities they pass the ordinance i mean you'll have a cousin staying with you for a month while they're moving or something and there's the police at your door thousand

dollar fines but you can have a house with boiling illegals coming out the front door and nothing will be done and you're right so these sorts of regulations are going to be on a state or even like a lower level uh kind of issue so i guess that these people are really that upset about zoning or housing regulations i don't i don't know what to tell them well no you should stay away from city council wow that's fair that's a good point but you know it doesn't seem to be productive to be complaining about it on a national radio show this seems like something you could actually take action on a local level yeah yeah yeah this seems achievable yeah yeah naturally there is some guidance that's offered but on the federal level through the department of housing and urban development

much of which goes back to a 1991 memo written by their general counsel frank keating the memo largely is a discussion about how many people should be living in a dwelling based on how many bedrooms there are keating concludes that the number is two but also that's not a hard and fast number and that there's a ton of other factors to consider other than bedrooms lay out of the house yeah are these people children yeah whatever a lot of factors yeah yeah yeah most of the reason that these regulations exist uh has to do with safety overcrowding is not good from a health or some even structural reason so it's typically avoided that said if your cousin comes to live with you for a month there is no way the cops are going to show up unless your cousin was coming

to live with you because he was on the run from the cops right you might get into trouble with your landlord if you're violating your lease but if it's your house this just isn't a realistic scenario that's gonna happen i mean i personally i have seen plenty of movies uh and and documentaries haven't you lived with uh like yes i have yes i have a lot of people yeah but have cops come nope never yeah not only not for all the illegal living that i'm done yeah but i don't think that i've seen any bob documentaries where the like holy shit we better pass this ordinance otherwise there's gonna be too many people living in single with their cousins with their cousin we gotta get this ordinance passed we gotta jam up hey buddy come on over here i'd hate it if too many people

lived in your house this is just a way that alex and this caller people like them can express their hatred of mexican immigrants in a way that makes it feel socially acceptable it's the like they get away with it but us upstanding white americans get in trouble like it's a false premise rooted just in white victim purely larger issue though people shouldn't have to live 20 people in an apartment regardless of their immigration status that might be something we could make a dent in through investing in affordable public housing but alex is against that too because of freedom yeah it would be it would be interesting if that guy's take on it was like man there are all these immigrants living in their houses together i see it i see it these immigrants are living in their

houses together and that's why we need affordable public housing coming from all directions we need to expand certain places we can't allow investment properties to be sitting there empty on the market that would be an interesting take yeah i would be curious to see how alex uh got really mad about that yeah instead this caller and him agree and so they end up saying stupid shit that sounds out in illinois was a shock to alex a hundred percent it was in the chicago tribune that people wake up in bed at seven thirty in the morning with police and black scheme asked with guns on them this is in alexville and other areas up there that's true they say we have to look and see how many toothbrushes you have and of the house privately owned

as three toothbrushes and there's only two people allowed that is an automatic find and arrest now this is this was in the mainstream news in illinois absolutely not ah no that's insane that's absurd there there are so many problems with this idea that if you have an extra toothbrush i mean first off man the cops are not smart enough to tell how many toothbrushes yeah also a person can have two toothbrushes no you cannot yes you can't no you're you're coming down to the station with me to prove that you have more than one toothbrush i believe in in america where people can have two toothbrushes also i think what's going on here is that alex is thinking of like maybe a tv show where someone realized they were being cheated on because there

was an extra toothbrush right right right something like that right right right or or like a murder she wrote where she was like i noticed that you have a foreign toothbrush in your yeah yeah that old thing yeah the north now it's getting arrested because like their significant other has decided to bring a toothbrush no over to leave in their house no so fucking dumb well i mean was it a mechanical toothbrush uh what do you mean i mean there's a battery robot oh we took a different directions well yeah there are different directions to go so alex gets another call and it's uh one of my favorite calls uh or types of calls as it were and that is somebody who wants specifics and alex doesn't really know have much to go on here no justin you're on the air go ahead

hi alex hello i had just a couple questions i wanted to ask you um maybe it's another thing that you could put up on your website um maybe just like a top five or ten um influential n w o members um a list of the uh the prison camps that you're talking about is the ones that are supposedly already built i wonder if you could put anything like that out there for uh for me to do some more research on well uh now we do have a concentration camp section on prisonplanet.com have you been to it yes i have okay well i mean there's just three press saying quote we're our troops are trained to kill grandmothers uh we have the uh rocky mountain news saying mass graves and incinerators are ready for you and your family actually says that uh we have the la times ash

crops hellish camps camps being built uh execution centers for anyone committing a misdemeanor uh we have uh the uh the what the east coast west coast uh tv stations reporting with county commissioners announcing uh dave schultz one of them we had on the show about how the feds told them about how they wanted to use the national park as a mass camp for hundreds of thousands of people no they're reopening manazar and the japanese camps that's admitted we've been there and gotten photos and written articles about it five six seven years ago uh so they're building i mean the the camps you've got more prisons than any other country in the world the camps are your giant new county jails and law enforcement centers and fema emergency centers i mean right here in austin the old

robert millwood airport okay 800 acres part of it's a movie studio the other part is a is is is is jet hangers with bolts and chains in the floor thousands of cots porta potties barbed wire inside and places to chain people up with armored vehicles parked and then they announce on the local news this is a camp for your safety and austin wins the fema 2000 award this is before 911 and they're building some new giant law enforcement center and you can't get into the city hall now and oh boy this is going on so is that the top five yeah so these headlines that alex is rattling off are all wildly out of context or things that he's just making up of on top of other stories that thing about muller airport is actually something that goes back to his y2k broadcast so that one's an

old standby for him it's beautiful you may remember that one the chains at the airport here i do i do so what's going on here isn't actually too different from the situation we saw in our last episode where a caller wanted alex to say who q was alex was being asked for specific information and instead of answering directly he launches off into a rant about vague insinuations that get the caller no closer to having any real information but it kind of feels like it for the caller well he's saying things that sound like they could be information right and in a way that's kind of condescending right so the caller probably feels put put on their back foot a little bit i mean if you were looking at it through the wrong parameters you might see him actively doing harm to his cause

to fight the globalists i wonder what those parameters are yeah so this is the same thing that alex is doing here because as i said on the last episode specificity is the enemy of a conspiracy theorist you can be wrong about everything get away with pretty much all of it as long as you're really vague about it yeah give yourself enough wiggle room to pretend you know i love how insecure he is because that was also a question that he could have avoided by going you know what you're right i'm going to get somebody on that and then moved on right yep he could have just been like that'd be a great thing to put on my website you're a good ideas man let's get paul joseph watson brother to take care of it totally and then don't do it yeah fucking if he would

called in at the right time probably between six and eight years after this alex would have been like maybe you should get a job i'm giving you a show exactly yeah that was a great idea i'll tell you what i'll tell you what why don't you tell me who the top five globalists are exactly so every week day at four so we do get back to this actually who the top five globalists are all right do you want to guess uh didn't buzzfeed do a list on them no okay um they got paid off not to top five globalists gotta have a Rothschild in there okay uh i'm gonna go with uh i mean you'd think gates would be in there but i think he hates gates yet right no he does hate gates he does hate gates but he's not top globalist yet i don't know uh i know bush is a puppet sure uh my answers are

Arnold Schwarzenegger okay um sylvester Stallone okay the all the rules okay it's the cast of the expendables cast of the expendables i wanted to get back to them like maybe a top five or ten uh people that you would think you know we're doing the most harm to well i mean liberties right who are the heads of the new world order yeah because we always talk about plenton or woeful wits or bush you know they're they're minions right and it's simple they've got a core of technicians to bring in the new world order but to make sure they control the political process one poses as a left puppet one poses as the right puppet but if you want to know who owns the new world order yeah uh it is the dutch role family british role family what

the Rothschild banking family in this country the rockefeller banking family there is a there's a few other families involved in it but that's the top five okay so no satan no bill gates no claus Schwab no epstein no world economic forum no it's remarkable almost as if uh all these characters weren't as important to alex in 2003 because at that point the conspiracy community was still in the it's all about the rockefellers and rothschild's phase they hadn't grown out of that yet yep now one of the things i think is kind of interesting i was laying in bed trying to fall asleep last night and i started to think about like how much alex's like whole shit is basically like how comic books operate yeah how like there's an arc

yeah yeah like so a lot of it's just reset and then it's secret wars and then you have a whole new the new adventures yeah some villain will pop up like way down the road right you pretend that they've been there the whole time yeah oh my god it's mr purple he was behind it all yeah yeah his his his shit really does work that way it does like it's it makes sense it's an effective mode of storytelling i guess but it but it also makes sense based on his reading comprehension levels true and the kind of stuff that he takes in it's like you know old sci-fi kind of kind of runs hand in hand with someone who'd be into comic books right um i don't know it's it's interesting to me yeah i wonder if he's a silver age guy he's probably a new 50

i don't know anyway uh we get back to this bio lab story here and uh he's wrong about everything that sounds like the government has announced dozens and dozens and dozens and no one's quite sure the official members in 36 now they're saying more giant bio weapons labs level four level four now level four just isn't an anthrax or a smallpox it's it's weaponized stuff and it means it's in large quantities and they're going to build these in most major u.s cities they're in the process of building them and uh folks just to understand this is 10 times conservatively more dangerous than having a giant nuclear power plant in your city we have had port and down bio weapons lab three years ago the same place where they kill us trips and admit it later just 20 years ago we're

killing them there and just admit it they released foot and mouth now that came out was admitted they said oh it was an accident we don't know how you know from this underground base it just showed up and over a dozen places from scotland to ireland simultaneously i predicted with a prime projection by analyzing the different strata and data what the data throughout the different levels of propaganda the data strata that the that the environmental minister would declare and i did this on there over and over again that no cows or sheep can be restocked alex is impressively wrong about just about everything in that clip and it's really amazing how he's trying to present this is some kind of proof that is he has this ability to analyze data that comes in from different strata

of the media or whatever they didn't make dozens and dozens or even 36 bsl four labs these aren't bio weapons labs they aren't super dangerous port and down didn't they not only didn't admit that they released foot and mouth they actually released a statement saying that they don't do any work with foot and mouth at that lab right and they never said that people couldn't restock livestock there are just regulations in place where the outbreak needs to be contained and then after the disease has been eradicated you have to wait 21 days to restock your animals for safety right that's what they said everything alex is telling his audience is basically made up it's it's astonishing to me and i honestly don't think that you can be that wrong without trying yeah like

there's an intention to be wrong there has to be yeah yeah because that's that's out that's out of control mm-hmm either that or he really is just freestyling you know just off the dome just letting i think i think that if he was freestyling he'd be right about more things yeah you're probably right he would have to pull reality out of his right yeah yeah yeah just random chance would dictate that he yeah yeah i don't know if it's just that he constantly and you like only gets headlines from sources that are intentionally lying or he's intentionally lying but like i just don't i can't i can't imagine this is an accident he's like a he's like a hole in the force you know like where where any correct information could exist he's like he's like the emptiness

within the the universe the strata of our data i've analyzed it well yeah good on you thank you i'd like you to analyze this strata data okay so we have these bio weapons labs that are that are being built everywhere and i just read earlier where a monkey escaped from one and the baltimore sun is reported at these things they're producing thousands of gallons thousands of gallons thousands of gallons the dozens they already have thousands of gallons of weaponized Ebola so alex is wrong about this story the monkey didn't escape from a bsl four lab or even a bio lab sure it was a rhesus monkey that escaped from the california national primate research center the reason this is at all relevant to the story alex is covering is because that center is at uc davis and there

was talk of building a 150 million dollar bio containment lab there and the fact that the monkey escaped from their normal facilities made that investment look uncertain the headline for the story that alex is covering is quote monkey's escape may sink bio defense lab right so what's going on is that alex read that headline and he's pretending that this means a monkey escaped from a bio defense lab because he just makes up the stuff that he reports to the audience that is that's cruel yeah that's i mean malicious yeah is he uh lying anyway uh this incident was enough to put the kibosh on this uh planned lab and it never got built uc davis i mean to a certain extent there is one employee who's like oh that one's on me

i i i don't know if they ever fifty million dollar lab i don't know if they ever like uh figured out who did it or if anyone was actually even to blame no i mean it's entirely possible that it was just monkeys are crafty yeah absolutely they're sneaky they know how to use tools any kind of oversight may have uh may have just been a mistake i saw this documentary about this one one monkey named caesar caesar the monkey yeah did he rise mm did he sure fucking did yeah he rose rose like shit man so alex has just got these fucking stories yeah he's just wrong about everything yeah so thankfully we get back to hearing about him stumbling into darpa good good yeah let me tell you last night i'm down at one of the big ut departments because they have some cool

hallways and places to shoot some video and i'm down there and literally i'm just by a work station right out in the open area where the graduate students are and there's darpa mind control documents laying there and a researcher walks by you know it's like 12 o'clock at night i'm up working doing this and shooting some video and all of a sudden this researcher walks by and he goes alex jones we're big fans well most of our departments fight not to take darpa but the darpa money but they said darpa's everything okay and it's all mind control it's a giant mind control facility it's lavish i mean the place is gigantic and look i'm just in the areas you're allowed to be in a lot of it's classified and walled off

yeah yep so the story is evolved yep yep i do i do appreciate that there is now and just an innocent bystander wandering by going like hold on is that alex jones i do think we're huge fans i mean i as somebody who has worked in university offices and you know my dad's a professor i have some acquaintance with uh how just protocol right yeah i don't know how alex is getting into these buildings at midnight no that would require some kind of special access or like somebody right allowing him to shoot there and i doubt that that would be something that like would have to go through some sort of a channel i saw this documentary where uh this guy just got out of jail right and his buddy he had a plan he was like we got to take off this casino because

when you win because sometimes the casino wins he said it a little bit better than this is he was like sometimes the casino wins but then sometimes you win see here's the problem with this like i was clearly referencing planet of the apes you could be referencing a hundred different oh come on it's oceans 11 i sure it could be plenty of other oh come on that could have been reindeer games that is true it could have been reindeer games but i would never reference reindeer games um so yeah that that story is all made up yeah there's uh there's there's there's no chance of any of that nope um so alex gets a call uh from a lady from witch talk and uh she is a new listener and so alex decides that he's going to freak her out okay um and so he just tries to scare her a

little bit okay but there's this awesome moment i love this so much alex doesn't know anything about witchita no but one of the ways that he's able to freak people out is by throwing out specifics yes like the name of your local paper right or something right right right he's able to make it look like no i actually have researched this yeah but he doesn't know shit about witchita and it comes up twice in 40 seconds here and it's awesome yeah witchita also has announced thumb scanners to go in your grocery stores to buy and sell i asked one of my uh grocery store people about that and he said he'd heard a rumor but they hadn't made a decision yet heard a rumor it was announced what's your witchita daily paper oh the witchita eagle beacon i was yes that's it i

failed the data transmission but yeah about about three weeks ago that article said that your major grocery stores within one year will be forcing you to thumb scan to buy and sell okay so that's your eat that that's your your witchita paper that's the ceo of what's the big uh what's the what's the grocery store chain base and witchita yelling yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that sounds detailed so i could throw him back at you so i checked with the dylan's and witchita and they do in fact accept cash and credit for groceries still yeah and they don't require people to submit to thumb scans really i imagine that if they did they'd be out of business really fast because there's a lot of other grocery stores in witchita it's not like a one stop light town or whatever

you know i guess alex might be a coastal elite thinking that all of kansas is just tumble weeds and saloons or whatever but i do i do like that he's employing like traditional cold reading tactics too i'm just like i'm thinking no no no there's a newspaper in witchita am i correct what's the name of that newspaper three weeks ago the ceo of yeah absolutely i'm seeing the letter m the idea that someone couldn't see through this is just like absurd so funny so legit couldn't be clear that alex is just making shit up here and he doesn't know any specifics about witchita but this is this is embarrassing stuff and i i would ask why would a grocery store require a thumb print to buy or sell have you ever gone to the grocery store to sell something i i mean i have bartered at the

whole foods many a time you don't have you don't like go there to like you don't bring in a second potatoes no be like hey jewel oscoe look i i make i make some nice homemade muffins and then when i go through the self-checkout i leave the muffins on the thing right and then i leave the the person checking out checking you i know what do you want how would you get all these bubbles yeah exactly yeah i think that maybe that is just language that is meant to invoke the mark of the beast i think you might be right and so you just throw on get around i could be so here's the last clip from this episode where alex continues to try and freak out this lady from witchita well it has me disturbed i mean am i going to be one of them that's going to get put in the camp and shot uh

let's say you're a big liberal but you've got a business that a member of the homeland security board in your state wants uh yeah you'll get arrested and a lot of you'll never be seen they'll just shoot you a couple times throw you in a meat grinder or a vat of acid or down into a coal mine sure uh up in uh vats of acid they're building a they built a super max on top of a large coal mine to get rid of the bodies what so yeah uh generally if you got something they want i mean maybe a local gestapo captain wants your husband uh or you know wants your wife uh yeah yeah mm-hmm okay yep so a local gestapo person wants a witch at all and so they're gonna boil you an acid the witchita gestapo is going to come to your house because they want your husband all right this might be a

little it might be a little bit extreme this is this is borderline like freak out the squares level that was definitely the vibe i was getting from that call absolutely um so we go to the first and there weren't a whole lot of clips of alex being mad at sports on the the last episode that i pulled because it honestly didn't really feel that important right on the 31st but it continues he's real mad at spur he's real mad at sports yeah and that's that's why i was like i took notice of it so we try to bypass all that you can get colby brian all day long on other channels you can colby brian you can hear people call in and cry in my home because their sports hero didn't do too good up at the plate up on the mound i mean i hear these guys call into shows and they're just oh

it's so serious it's so important and they detail the finest minutiae of baseball and football but then you try to tell that joker about the bill of rights and what's happening to america they'll laugh at you but they'll get so concerned when they call in on the sport show and they're so worried about everything and then that's totally normal and good but care about your country care about your liberties and freedoms and what the forefathers fought and died for and you're bad i mean like he just seems to think that it's impossible to care about sports and the country simultaneously which i i don't know how to respond to that i mean considering the amount of jingoistic military ass bullshit that's rammed down of our our fucking throats through

sports there's a lot of it you'd think alex would be stoked so he talked about kobe brian there uh as colby yeah and i think that this actually is a big part of why he's mad uh because there's a lot of news about kobe brian uh and his uh sexual assault yeah yeah case yeah he admitted he raped that woman yeah and alex has uh some weird news about this i was watching hennedy and combs last night again i haven't watched tv in weeks i did watch a couple hours last night and they had the girl on that that uh that the news and the newspapers and the internet had said was kobe brian's uh yeah the the girl he allegedly sexually assaulted and of course it it wasn't the right girl the media just picked up on it and thousands of websites posted it many of the mainstream news

sites but but just on a side note watching her i mean talk about a dithering mindless oh my god eyed airhead uh that's the future human just just utterly mindless just a clone of the tv show friends trying to mirror whatever the peer pressure conduit orders her to uh do i mean our men are slovenly uh ignorant baseball cap wearing creatures stumbling around acting like juvenile delinquents when they're 30 years old our women are have been trained to be insecure and to be slaughtering themselves in in endless cosmetic applications and what is happening about you know living to shop and throw their kids in the daycare where they're vaccinated with deadly bio weapons i mean i'm not trying to be better here folks i'm very positive about about the good

elements of society but just when i see the the willful ignorance the people wrapping themselves in a cocoon of mindlessness it's it's really hard to deal with alex is 29 years old i mean that's that sounds like he was gonna end that with like i had cheese there read it like what are we what the fuck yeah i don't know but i also think alex has his story entirely wrong oh i might be wrong about this i can find no uh evidence uh to the contrary but i think that what here's what's going on yeah so on july 28th a couple days before this episode hannity and combs featured an interview with tom likeis the notoriously disgusting radio host who's famous essentially just for being a chauvinist pile of shit right he had decided he was gonna out kobie's accuser which was the story

that hannity and combs were covering from hannity's intro to that interview quote most new stations have a policy against naming sexual assault victims so why did los angeles nationally syndicated radio talk show host tom likeis feel compelled to identify kobie bryant's accuser he joins us from los angeles i don't think that hannity and combs ever had a person alleging to be kobie's accuser on the show but what seems to be going on here is that alex is conflating this likeis interview with another thing that was happening at the time which is that people were circulating pictures of uh of a woman that they were inaccurately claiming was the accuser tom likeis did get the name of the person real name yes people form a circulated a fake picture

that were of a different person yes so i think that alex has combined these two right imagined an interview and is complaining about this person he didn't actually watch an interview with right right and that kind of tracks with alex's attention to detail in journalistic standards certainly belief that dreams are real i guess if anybody like i would be very open to you know figuring out more about this like if someone were able to send me the hannity and combs interview that alex is talking about yeah i'd be happy to amend uh my feeling on this but based on everything i can find yeah that this is what alex is what he's talking about i think he's making up an interview that he watched amazing it does seem like the whole anger at

sports thing that alex has been on is mostly kind of about this though i mean it's it is it is when you see his misogyny and racism come into conflict that i think not the misogyny trumps i don't know if they're in conflict well that's fair he's experiencing both simultaneously i think a little bit it does feel like he's really focusing on the misogyny though yep as like the primary when it comes down to it i'm with all men over all women you know as the as uh you know they say you gotta have a code so okay in this next clip alex uh he's trying out for a herald team uh i think he's doing an improv scene with himself oh that's not good uh where he pretends to get into a conversation with somebody who doesn't like the info war because he wants to play golf

they're announcing satellite tracking and taxation for our cars that's going in in germany canada england about to start in some of the western states and moves across the country and you try to tell one of these people that i have i mean i could talk to a college student i could talk to an old black man i could talk to a good old boy a cowboy hat they'll listen i could talk to the three types of people they'll listen or a mexican immigrant but these middle class uh uh you know a hundred thousand dollar a year sports fans you'll tell them something they'll go well fine let them satellite track well i guess bush has got to be an old compromise and sign the assault weapons ban they'll have a you know bush uh cheney sticker and then you'll say but what about blocking dan

burton's committee i'm harden gate well i guess bush has got to do that hey i gotta go alex i've seen your show i've heard your radio show i don't believe it i gotta go play golf come on jimmy let's get in the car and this will be they'll start it you know walking out of a restaurant they'll say something to me oh i don't i don't believe that stuff you say well what do you not believe sir and i'll try to come over and invest time and they just arrogantly with their little their little pennant cap and go i gotta go play golf while our country is gone and then i'll hear that same type individual on the radio so concerned so upset really you could hear the i mean you'd think one of their children was in the hospital they're just they call in so concerned i mean

this is sick this is mental illness people this is mental illness so this person will come up to me outside the restaurant they'll say something to me and then i'll invest time trying to talk to them and they'll be like i want to go play golf right and then i go over to ut austin and i find a lab that's got DARPA documents everywhere right right yeah i would i would argue that his story that he made up to describe other people as insane in fact more reveals his own insanity yeah sure but i think that there probably is a maybe a kernel of truth to it sure like maybe somebody blew him off uh outside a restaurant or something and mentioned that they were going to go play golf or something a very reasonable thing to do alex has turned this into like i gotta go play

right and then he imagines that people on the radio are like this person very exactly like that person he's created an image of in his head uh huh yeah yeah makes sense yeah all checks out so um in the present day we know that alex is the most important person in the world the trump administration called him the texan true they always wanted to know what the texan thought about that gotta uh putin listens every day he needs to bolson arrow might listen we know his son does yes actually that one might be true um but in 2003 uh the new not so notable not so notable alex gets a call and a guy brings up something that makes alex very excited i spoke to the senate state senator balram they gave the road to journey to and he just says you're a kook idol

you know that's just that's just i figured hold on the state senator and already knew who i was state senator balram yeah i gave him the road to journey video let me read the back and call me a kook or did he just say oh yeah i know this guy he's a kook no he just watched it and you know he just doesn't watch do you have a crush oh oh okay oh my god he looked at me like that how did he look at me did it i did he turn the other way wait wait he already knew i was crazy he already knew who i was and that i was not oh my god i can't believe he knew who i was oh my god oh my god this is a huge moment for me senator i've never heard of knows him of me it's a little bit lower stakes and maybe so alex has a interesting little bit of a story sort of a pop culture human interest

kind of story okay um and he is fucking so excited about it folks there's so much here i've got this article it's now come out it's confirmed that that stalin tried to have john wane killed yes it's okay and when the fbi went to warn john wane that killers were on his trail in hollywood john wane said hey go home boys i got the second amendment he actually said that it sounds true turns out he quote survived an assassination attempt and then didn't even want to talk about it when the communist tried to kill it sounds true amazing article coming up amazing amazing so this wasn't proven uh that the kgb under order some stalin had sent hit squads to kill john wane what that's just a claim that was made in a biography of wane called john wane the man behind the myth

according to an article on military dot com wane learned of this plot and quote obviously not one to let a thing like communist assassins get him down wane and his script writer jimmy grant allegedly abducted the hit men took them to a beach and staged a mox mock execution no one knows exactly what happened after that but wane's friends said that soviet those soviet agents began to work for the fbi from that day on that sounds true for a man who dodged the draft also apparently when khrushchev took over power he met with john wane and apologized for the whole assassination really nice of khrushchev yeah that is really nice of khrushchev i don't get a lot of heads of state apologizing for previous behavior taking taking some responsibility it's admirable that's

nice i don't know how else to put this other than to say that this is a stupidly fake story being passed along in this biography and it's really funny that alex the king of skepticism and guy who can see through all the bs is just taking it at face value because it makes him feel good about his worldview yeah the biography was written by a guy named michael munn and let's just say that accusations that he makes things up in his book are not uncommon oh really for instance much of his biography of frank sanatra involves things that he claims he remembers from pillow talk he had with ava gardener when she was 45 and he was 17 and they had an affair during which he revealed all sorts of things that she never told anybody else god damn that is some good backstory

i like that pretty solid i like that this one here is from an article in the guardian this little blurb this tickled me quote there was a time that david niven stricken with the motor neuron disease that killed him called munn in quote mic i've gotta see you he told him to bring his tape recorder and spoke of his secret love child his illegitimacy and his failed attempt to shoot himself as well as hinting at an interest in Mormonism and affairs with princess margaret and grace kelly that sounds a lot of his work seems to revolve around made-up things that happen to him that are secret and generally involve a one-on-one exchange with someone who is now dead maybe unverifiable information is kind of his stock and trade yeah apparently this story about john wane came from

munn getting to know wane after he played a role a very important role man in telephone box in the film brand again oh and he said that uh john wane treated him like a son after that he gave his best friend after he played bad in telephone box this is amazing this is just amazing yeah that is it's just how these weird stories fucking fly yeah through the world yeah unsuspected it's like he posted an onion article it was like this is absolutely true yeah the families of people he's written about say that this shit is outrageous and even munn's own family doesn't buy his fabricated backstory it's all a load of shit being made up by someone trying to sell narratives that are self-aggrandizing so it does kind of make sense why alex would identify with this and accept it

unquestioningly yeah it's kind of his bread and butter it is it calls to him the siren song of bullshit recognizes absolutely and uh so i noticed a trend i noticed the thing that seems to happen a lot especially in the past oh maybe it's because the technology and manpower is a little unsophisticated at this point sure but alex pretty constantly ends up uh hanging up on people while they're still talking and so i wanted to play a little clip of that okay and then alex also reveals something about his politics they always wanted thanks for the call you know thanks for the call and and then you get this side issue over here with bush diverting people with red herrings about how he's against homosexual marriage total red herring i mean of course the majority

of the american people that are against that and of course uh that uh that's a bad thing but bush isn't gonna do anything about it it's all just rhetoric yeah so just remember when alex is trying to pretend to be like this in light i don't care what you do in your bedroom right he's against uh i don't want you to get married outside of your bedroom right so just just keep that in mind when he tries to pretend to be a little bit more moderate than he actually is in order to you know use that as ammunition in his transphobic narratives and such uh no no he is he he's just shifted his target yeah what's what's important to to think about whenever it comes to repealing abortion rights is that you know all of the republicans who who as times have

changed and as the popular opinion has changed towards a lot of subjects have come along with you know as things get moved back we're gonna find out they were not coming along with no they were playing along with and that's a very fucking different yep so yep be ready mm-hmm so uh speaking of that yeah i hope we don't have to go all the way back to this but alex gets a caller who's a real weirdo uh-oh these let me let me give you this here and if you know that thing we were people say any law that's republic of the constitution is null and void well there's more to that in uh in a republic all laws subject to higher standard which blackstone law commentaries identifies as god's law and any law that stands in conflict with his higher laws null and void

a republic reserves the biblical concept that the government is a minister of god upholding his righteous command punish the evildoer and encourage good sounds great you know and and a democracy makes the majority god capable of determining good and evil by popular opinion well well that's it it's two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner and a democracy if fifty one percent get together and say take that man's ranch and give it to us it happens in a republic you can't do that thanks for the call really good points wild wait so we're against democracy yeah and also alex his response to that caller was really good points yeah yeah boo so the passage that caller was reading is actually from a website called the matrix has you and it's

a blog post about how there's a secret 13th amendment in the original constitution that has been secretly removed and eliminated from history excuse me quick question yeah secret 13th amendment yeah in the original constitution this amendment would have made it so lawyers were barred from serving in government position that's basically just a piece of sovereign citizen lore there we go this was a reprinting of an article written by a roofer named alfred adsec who published a newsletter called the ante sheister which was mostly about how much he hates wow he just hates lawyers oh that's i mean that's better than where i thought it was going sure yeah this article was written in 1991 and in the next year alfred decided to try to run for the texas supreme court on a libertarian

ticket here's a blurb from d magazine about his candidacy okay quote 47 year old adsec who attended college for a year and a half hopes to run for the texas supreme court on the libertarian party ticket despite the fact that the texas constitution says candidates must be a practicing lawyer or judge with 10 years experience at ask bases his candidacy on a quote personal interpretation of an old law that he said allows non lawyers to run for judicial office in the 10 former confederate states quote of course my if my interpretation is ridiculous i'll wind up looking like another nut on a soapbox he uh he wrote yeah how did that go he looked like a nut on a soapbox oh so close adex was a big sovereign citizen type and so big actually that his name appears in a slideshow about

sovereign citizens put together by a court administrator in kansas city discussing followers of that ideology's potential for violence it says quote one of the most notorious alfred adsec made a statement quote we have the right to keep and bear arms in order to shoot our own politicians wow yeah this dude is a major figure in the community of sovereign citizens and one of his main interpretations of that ideology is that people aren't subject to the laws of the country or state but to god's law he believes that this is part of the founding of the united states and this is the mentality that's being expressed uh and tacitly supported by alex on this show this is not sound or well constructed as legal analysis it's the unfounded ravings of an

anti-government zealot arguing that the country was established to be a theocracy simultaneous with the time period if i recall correctly everyone was screaming about sharia law through his website this guy alfred he also published a magazine called suspicions okay which is about as awful as you might think oh their volume 11 number three issue from 2001 includes an article titled quote the truth about homosexuality which is about as homophobic as you'd imagine ah i was hoping it was like it's dope nope it finds homosexuality as a fetish and calls homosexual relationships a quote horrendous perverted septic and medically dangerous practice the author also claims that quote nothing turns gay men on more than the idea that you'd be both shocked and disgusted

by their behavior this passage actually really stuck out to me in this yeah essay yeah quote perhaps i am more sensitive to the issue than most but whenever i hear someone describe themselves as openly gay i automatically visualize them engaged with another man in a revolting act of anal intercourse ruining my appetite that sounds like parody to me honestly but it's not if you read the article it is not so anyway this is the sort of garbage that this dude who the caller is quoting is publishing yeah so yeah it's great it's great stuff all around here everyone is is knocking it out of the park yeah um anyway i mean i guess that's sort of secondary in as much as like this legal analysis that we're all living under god's law in the republic is meant to support

that is written by the same person who's publishing this tripe yeah and you know this episode honestly the april or august 1st is is not very good it's mostly phone calls and a lot of them are really boring and disappointing so i had to try and find something interesting to talk about yeah so there we go yeah we get alfred adsept anyway we have one last clip here and it's another caller um and this this struck me is really weird actually if there's could be any justice in the world bush is going to have to be tried and hanged for the same reason the japanese were tried and hanged what he's guilty of the same crime so until that happens there will be no justice uh one jq jq listen i wish no harm against uh president bush and i can't all i want is justice so it's

no i gotta let you go i can't sit here on the air and say things like that that uh is cowered so there's two things that i think are really weird about this the first is that there's this caller who is a semi regular caller it goes by jq and like that could be a initial or a nickname but it's suspicious because it's also code for the jewish question which is something in white nationalists in neo-nazi communities right instead of having to be open about it they talk about the jq right you know and so right right right that that to me is a little bit of whenever he's called in i've tried to keep my like ears open for possible dog whistly stuff right right and so far it's mostly not but it is still something that i'm i've never met anybody who goes by that alias

yeah yeah yeah that's no good no and second i believe that in some way alex understands the responsibility that he has to not engage in directed violent rhetoric at this point in his career he understands that even bandying about these ideas about bush deserving to be hung is somewhat unhealthy as a way to communicate with the audience sure i don't know if that's exactly what's going on but it's such a far cry from what he does in the present day it is very different he ends this call because the guy is saying that sir we can try listen sir we cannot be saying violent things like that easy the caller is even he even said to trial right yeah yeah no and i think it's a 100 reasonable thing to believe that george bush should be tried at the

hag and then his punishment will be what it deserves imagine like that compared to how he talks about fouchy like in the present day yeah yeah who's just a guy it's outrageous like i did one of the only things that i can think of and maybe it's a fall maybe maybe it's me you know putting a little bit too much into this but like it feels like one of the only reasons that behavior would be so different yeah is that in the past there was an awareness that like this isn't good i can't do this this is not this isn't appropriate maybe i'm wrong but that seems to be like because i think that that's definitely true i think it is irresponsible and wrong and you know dangerous man it's very weird i don't know why he would cut off the call like that

maybe you know what i'm saying sure i think that part of it might be that and then part of it might be a um maybe he knows the caller i mean maybe on another level he's just better able to control his fucking emotions that's definitely so he doesn't go off on a fucking murder rant every time he hears somebody say stuff like that that's definitely true too you know i'm not sure it could be a combination of all yeah yep so we come to the end of this and um i don't know i i thought there's some some things worth worth taking a peek at but i guess alex is you know one of the things too that i had to check in on is like alex is so mad at sports that i had to go through like sports headlines from around that i'm like what is it the world cup or something

and alex is mad about internationalism or something nothing i couldn't find anything far it's gone nuts again so yeah we'll get back to the present day probably next week um but yeah i just needed to take a little time in the past i like it i like time in the past yeah i think there's more meat on bones back then i think there's there's the opportunity to learn a lot more and less indiscriminate screaming true yeah um so we'll be back but until then jordan we have a website we do it's knowledge right dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter is that knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed jordan yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i hope you all have uh great and dreamy and maybe creamy also by the way someone sent me a picture

of starbucks they have a creamy dreamy thing that they're selling cease and desist cease and desist copy right copy right this is oh how dare you and now here comes the sex robots andy and chancel sure on the air thanks for holding so alexa my first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you