Knowledge Fight - #795: April 4-5, 2023

Episode Date: April 12, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex covered Trump getting arrested.  As it turns out, Alex got really transphobic, attacked the Manhattan DA's office, and then bored himself by listening t...o Trump's speech.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Just time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up. What's your bright spot today buddy. My bright spot today Jordan is I'm getting old. I feel you. I'm getting old. My knees are right there with you buddy. So here's why. Yeah. I have taken quite a love recently for a couple things that I feel are
Starting point is 00:01:27 old people food gardening. No. Oh because you already had that. Yeah. And I'll get back to that. Okay. Okay. A little more space. I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm trying to. I still have a passion for gardening. So that makes me old. But also applesauce. Oh no. And cottage cheese. Get the fuck out of here. You're eating. I found that I enjoy both quite a bit. Sure. I feel like those are not foods of the youth. Well actually applesauce is for the really young. The real youth. But then there's a big gap. Yeah. And then. Right back at it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's pretty pretty shocking to me. I was sitting there eating some applesauce. I'm like there's a fucking apple. How about this. I don't. Here's the problem I have. Yeah. I don't understand foods that are in between eating and
Starting point is 00:02:13 drinking. I just don't appreciate it. I don't appreciate the feeling of like am I supposed to chomp on this and then I swallow it. See what's nice is it gives the options. You could drink or eat it. I'm not considered. What do you think about a milkshake. What do I think about a milkshake. Yeah. That's a different consistency than cottage cheese. Well you're not going to drink cottage cheese. Well obviously spoon it. Right. Yeah. But it feels like applesauce with applesauce. Apple sauce and a milkshake. But an apple. Can you. Can you. You can drink applesauce through a straw. You could if you want to do. Yeah. Do you have to believe in yourself. Yes. It's probably pretty hard. Here's what cottage cheese is kind of like a drink. Okay. Boba tea.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It's kind of like Boba. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the balls. Put some chia seeds in. Yeah. Okay. It's your bright spot. My bright spot is the return of regular ass Taskmaster. Yeah. The UK version starring Greg Davies and Alex Horan. And I figured it out. Yeah. I feel like I figured out why it is that the UK version is better than the others. Greg Davies used to be a real life teacher. Huh. I think the fact that he spent time teaching children gave him the ability to treat these adult comedians which are essentially the same thing. Yeah. As a certain type of dismissive such as like the type of dismissive that they barely even argue against because it's like the teacher saying that you did wrong. Well you got me there. Exactly. We're comedians
Starting point is 00:03:47 are all ingrained inside to be like teachers. I think that's it. That's an interesting. That's my theory. Okay. Yeah. That's an interesting possibility. You may be right. Yeah. I don't I don't know. I think they just have a system of how they cast it and that is basically what makes it work. Yeah. It's it's unbeatable. Him and Alex have a good dynamic of aloofness and abuse. Totally 100 percent. And then there's there is essentially a system. I think you can see over time. There's one person who's insane. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. Or is like the butt of insane jokes. Sure. Sure. This person's going to do things wrong. Yeah. You have somebody who's a little bit of a what would it be a little posh because it's British.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I would say a little bit posh at least a puppy dog also a posh puppy dog works. Not always the same. No. No. No. But trying to try and to be like I'll do anything you say. Taskmaster some old person. Yeah. Totally. One old person who is possibly on the open mic scene with Greg Davis. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Or something and then or even older than him that can get some old person jokes in. Yeah. Yeah. And then at least one young person who's out of 22 adult set. Yeah. But it works. It always works. Yeah. It always works. Yeah. Because all those different minds figure out how to do tasks differently. Yeah. And they always combine different backgrounds. You know there's there's people of color but from everywhere
Starting point is 00:05:23 there's no there's no like oh it has to be there. There's women doesn't have to be an exact like formula. It's just sure. It's just let's find the Canadian on this season. Oh we do with May Martin. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. That's the that's the young person. The young Canadian less. They're still part of the royal family. Yeah. Absolutely. I get you. But you know you have Australia. They have their own and New Zealand has their own. Canada can't get one. No. No. Not enough comedians. I'm going to have to move up there to start my own taskmaster. That's why that's why you're thinking about Toronto. There's an opening in the market. Yeah. Hey you're not wrong. I think that would be offensive
Starting point is 00:06:02 to the Queen. That could be King now. That doesn't count. I think that doesn't count. We all should be like I feel like we all should have been like the Queen. That's the last Queen. That's the last Royal. She was great at it. She got to do all the evil stuff forever. She did it forever since it was like a respected vaunted institution and now she she presided over the steep decline of the importance of royalty. Yeah. Absolutely. Listen. The bulls don't raise twenty three. The bulls don't have anybody wearing twenty three anymore. You know what I'm saying. You retire the monarchy. You retire the monarchy. You put a little banner up. You're like this was great. You put a crown on the rafters. Yes. Yeah. Everybody
Starting point is 00:06:42 wears a tiara for the day. Not a terrible idea. But I do think that they also retired like the numbers of like Horace Grant. True. And still great. Luke Longley. Listen. Did they retire Luke Longley. They should have retired the numbers of everybody who was in that. I mean the six year. Well the two. See that's the problem. The three and the three. Yeah. BJ Armstrong retired. First three. BJ and Horace Grant. First three. Bill Wennington. Absolutely. Tony Koo coach. Koo coach. Got to get the Koo coach. And of course Pippin. Of course. Well I mean that was an unspoken. Uh huh. Need not to say that. Yeah. Who else was in that team. Oh boy. Steve Kerr. Was he around. Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr was crucial
Starting point is 00:07:26 to winning the ninety six series against Utah Jazz or something. I can't remember which one it was. Trying to. I think. I think I've topped out. All of my people who are on the ninety six bulls. Did we say 95 bulls. No. I don't think we said that. No. It's a figment of your imagination. Yeah. So Jordan today we have a present day episode to go over. We're going to be talking about Alex talking about Trump getting arrested. Yeah. That's why we did a lot of preamble. My fingers in the air like you warned us last time. Well here's the thing. So we're going to be talking about April 4th and 5th because Trump gets arrested on the 4th. But it actually is later than when Alex is on air. Right. So he's not on
Starting point is 00:08:09 air as it happens. But everyone's pretty much aware that Trump is taking off from Florida and heading to turn himself in as it were. So we're going to listen to a little bit of the 4th but mostly focus on the 5th because then Alex can actually talk about what happened and get into it. And because the 4th is a toxic wasteland of transphobia. Good. It is almost to the point where I feel like if it were more grotesque I think I probably wouldn't play it. Yeah. But I'm going to I'm going to play some of this and you know fair warning. It's not great. It's pretty pretty awful stuff. But some of the things he says I think are beyond pale in a way that's kind of new and worth commenting on. All right. Judge Friesen
Starting point is 00:08:55 says he'll allow it. So we'll get down to business on this. But before we do Jordan let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones. That's a great idea. So first don't waste my time the girl boss. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk now before I hit the button. Yes. OK. I should say that this is a person who wished. This is a happy birthday last year. I think we did give that happy birthday. But we didn't give this shout out. No. No. I think we gave it last year. OK. But I think that the person who asked for the shout out didn't hear it and thinks that we didn't. I think that's the case. All right. But in case we didn't. Yes. This is a person who had a birthday on April 7th. So also a happy
Starting point is 00:09:34 birthday. Happy birthday. I think we did it last year. All right. You know what you get to get to. I don't mind. Anyway you're you're not a policy walk. I'm a policy walk next. But that doesn't count for this year. OK. We're not wishing you a happy birthday this year. You're on your own. Yeah. Exactly. So next. Hey Maxine. Hey Ferg. I did the thing. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Next intergalactic spiritual contract law required the devil to tell me first that I was paying to be a walk. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And maybe if Alex Jones stand Luna. Thank you so much. You are now a policy
Starting point is 00:10:11 walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And we got a couple of technocrats in the mix. So first I witnessed Andy from Kansas Kansas have a psychedelic trip and now I understand the secrets of space time. Also I love her. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Milosis and the Clare Witch Project. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and they did include instructions on how to pronounce Milosis. So thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone. Someone. Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't
Starting point is 00:10:52 want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. Milosis makes me think of something in science class. Yeah. My toes and my osis my osis. Oh my osis and my toes. Yeah. You know how you keep them separated. Which ones which no I don't know what they are. My toes is is when cells split correct. Yeah. My osis is when cells combine. No. I was just guessing on that one. Reproductive cells split. Well done. So my and the only reason I remember this is because my science teacher whose name I don't even remember Greg Davies. He explained it to us as I have my toes in my toes and my osis in my and then he did the DX chop on his crotch. All right. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That was the year. Yeah. That was the year for it is the attitude era. That was the year everybody was doing one of those. Still remember it to this day and almost 40. Yeah. So here's a little out of context drop from today's show. This one's going in the sound board for sure. Okay. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. I want to hear that after I do something successful. Yeah. Alex cheering for you. Yeah. Really really happy about your achievement. I like it. So we start here on the fourth and I can say within even the first clip I knew we were in trouble because he starts talking about how Trump's arrest is election meddling and veers off course incredibly quickly. All right. This is election meddling. This is the country
Starting point is 00:12:24 falling into a banana vote republic. This is the deep state openly flexing its muscles and letting us know that we can't vote for who we want to. And that the corrupt blue cities and states are establishing a absolute tyranny over us. And the main target ladies and gentlemen is our children. And so we'll be focused a lot today here with Judge Andrew Napolitano Roger Stone and many other experts joining us. But the big picture is this the Tabasco Institute on record created in the 60s the trans agenda. It already been planned by Aldous Huxley brother to Julian Huxley to ran the U.N. ran it as a way to end the human family as we know it and create chemicalized sterilized features for the population and
Starting point is 00:13:36 destroying the existing human order. OK. So that's why they're arresting Trump within a minute. Within a minute. Within a minute. Alex goes from like Trump is the greatest thing. This is election meddling on a level we've never seen before. Apparently we're a banana boat republic. Yeah. I'm not familiar with the term. You know if you can make one store out of Banana Republic then you have to make another store out of Banana Boat Republic. Yeah. And Alex goes to the beach. It's a banana hammock. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very quickly weaves into transphobia calling trans people creatures. I guess is a real dehumanizing garbage from Alex. So I could tell like this is not going to be an episode
Starting point is 00:14:19 where we're going to really get too much into the Trump arrest. I think I think Alex is on another tip today. Yeah. I think the corollary to what's the what's the rule where I have not online argument always ends in somebody being called the Nazi. I know what you're talking about but I don't remember the name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is I want to say Murphy's law but that's not it. That's whatever can go wrong does go wrong. But God wins law God wins a great album by Murphy Lee from the St. Lunatic. Interesting. What was his law. I think Godwin is right. OK. It's correct. Murphy Lee's law is that he is the most St. Louis and you can ask his tattooist. That's a good law. He was like the water boy and
Starting point is 00:14:56 they said you can do it. Yeah. OK. That's a good one. Yeah. No this is like the same thing. It is the length of time it gets the right wing to we need to save the children. You know what I'm saying. Like it always ends with listen whatever it is you think makes sense doesn't matter. We need to save the children. Right. And we need to save the children as always cover for something else in their agenda that is destructive to others whether it's restricting access to reproductive health care demonizing trans people banning books whatever it is it's something and it's it's garbage. We need to think of the children when we let a woman die of sepsis because we're worried about being cold and abortion.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. Yep. So this is really the clip where I was like we're in deep waters here my friend. This is really shocking to hear from Alex in terms of his hatred of trans people. Really. This exact same program from Australia to Germany to Canada to the U.S. They're rolling out in Africa. They're rolling out in Latin America. They're rolling out in Asia. The only place that will allow it is communist China and Russia and some Muslim countries. And as bad as radical even Orthodox Islam is it is a savior. The Christianity won't stand up for itself and I don't mean to say you're like Christ but a savior compared to this. And you know I'm a big opponent of what is really radical
Starting point is 00:16:30 but Orthodox expansionary Islam. But I've got to be honest. Islam is like a fresh clean drink of mother's milk compared to this. And the Muslims are not putting up with it. I cannot count the number of times that Alex has lied about insane stuff in order to demonize Islam as a whole and Muslims individually to hear him be like because of their because of a trend of not accepting LGBT because of the worst part of them. Yeah. Of those countries and their non acceptance of LGBTQ folk. They are like a glass of mother's milk compared to to it's it's outrageous. I can't. I can't. He's saying like I want Sharia law. Yeah. Basically I want to go. I mean I need to build a time machine to go
Starting point is 00:17:24 back and beat the shit out of every single person who said bullshit about Sharia law in 2004. I'm going to go. I'm going to do that. I'm not going to solve any problems. I'm just going to beat the shit. It's insane. It's so weird to hear like the way that Alex makes peace with his enemies in or in service of like something else. He hates more. You know it's very. I mean it's it's it's jarring. Why believe anything. Well what's the point. I mean if you want to if you want to ask me personally. Oh yeah. No no no no no no no where are we. Yeah I would put it to you that he doesn't. Yeah exactly. I would say that almost everything is pretty negotiable in terms of what is pushing forward. His current
Starting point is 00:18:12 bigotry whatever is targeting the groups that he wants to target which is what he profits off of. Yeah. So yeah there is some of that. I don't believe sincere beliefs like in terms of him like I don't believe that he actually thinks like I will embrace like orthodox extreme Islam or whatever in order to to get rid of the trans agenda created by the Tiva stock Institute. Yeah it's all nonsense. Yeah just just it's just hate. Just do a new religion that's like we hate people. That would be fine. Write a book that has one sentence. We hate people. Yeah yeah yeah absolutely. We just hate them. So Trump is going to be arrested. Alex knows that he's made peace with it but also it's Obama lawyers. No and
Starting point is 00:18:58 Soros. Do you mean his. We're watching us via television stations cable stations on the internet. You can see a shot in front of Trump Tower. Also have shots in front of the courthouse. We'll be intermittently going back to where President Trump at two fifteen eastern time today one fifteen central time today will be turning himself in to the George Soros installed puppet and the documents and articles are all out and are all confirmed that George Soros put this guy in. He promised to arrest Trump and an Obama lawyer is inside his office orchestrating it all. So when we talk about Joe Biden and his administration it's really the third administration. Having some burp problems. Yeah. So yeah I mean like
Starting point is 00:19:57 you pointed out like you could say that Ray Nall Alex's lawyer in Texas cases is an Obama lawyer. Obama lawyer. Absolutely meaningless sort of epithet to throw around. Someone was appointed by Obama. There was like a thousand people you know. Yeah. Soros didn't put anybody in anywhere whether or not like the open societies donated to somebody or whatever. Yeah. You could deal with that if you want to deal in reality but yeah Soros didn't be like you go there. And there is a preoccupation with the idea that Alvin Bragg the Manhattan district attorney sure campaigned on pursuing prosecution against Trump. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Holding powerful people accountable for the crimes they commit. It goes like it's constant. He's talking about
Starting point is 00:20:44 like he campaigned on this. Yeah. Keep that in mind because there is a payoff later in the episode. I wanted to make a point of how much like we're not going to listen to every time he says it. Sure. Alex says it ad nauseam foreshadowing. So but this this Bragg Alvin Bragg his office is is cuckoo. It's it's all over the place. It's upside down. OK. They don't know what they're doing. They're trying to arrest Trump. Meanwhile they support criminals and they lock up anybody. Mostly innocent people. Somebody is flying over this fucking nest. Trump's going to be charged with 34 felony counts. No handcuffs. No mugshot. No jail cell because they know that image really illustrates that they are incredible criminals
Starting point is 00:21:32 while there's lawlessness and murder and death in all the major blue cities including New York and the same D.A. Justice week charged a parking garage attendant who saw a man breaking into cars. It's on surveillance footage. He came over and the man attacked him took the gun away. But before he took the gun away he shot the attendant and the attendant took it away from him and shot him. So literally someone pulls a gun on you. They shoot you. You pull it away and shoot them and you get charged with attempted murder and illegally owning a gun even though he had done the gun. I read the indictment a few days ago. I doubt that Saturday and I just couldn't even believe it. Strongly doubt. Someone attacks you with
Starting point is 00:22:25 a gun. You fight for your life. Strong disbelief and you get charged. That's who these people are folks. Yeah man. So one of the ways that the Trump propagandists tried to make this arrest seem more egregious was to point to this case about this parking attendant who shot an alleged robber. It's basically adding specifics to their indict a ham sandwich. So Musa Diara was on shift when he saw roadie Charles looking into cars and naturally thought that he was trying to find stuff to steal. Diara confronted him at which point Charles pulled out a gun. Diara tried to wrestle the gun away and in the scuffle it discharged and Diara himself was shot. He was still able to get the gun and then he shot Charles twice.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Eventually when police arrived at the scene they arrested and charged both of them with assault and attempted murder. However upon review of the evidence and getting a handle on what the situation was Alvin Bragg's DA office dropped the charges against Diara. This was two days before the point where Alex is lying on air about this because he doesn't know or care about the real story. He's probably just seen a stupid meme on some far right shithead social media. Right. Alex doesn't get doesn't need to get this story right because his version of it feels right to the audience. Alex's fake version of the story conforms to the picture they emotionally resonate with about how their enemies work and how
Starting point is 00:23:50 rigged everything is against them. They'll never hold Alex accountable for being full of shit because to do that they would need to insist that he start telling them things that don't feel satisfying. Yeah. Which is more important than the truth. Yeah. I mean what are you going to what's Alex's narrative cannot be. The cops are the ones in the fucking wrong here and the DA who we hate is the one who is the one save it. Stopping this. But I would argue I would arguably say that perhaps the cops aren't even. All that. I'm not saying that I mean if you see two people shot I get why you'd be like hey we'll take you down to the station. Right. That kind of thing. Yeah. I get that. But at the same time you
Starting point is 00:24:32 know like that would be that in order for his narrative to happen he would have to demonize somebody between the two. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not talking about in real life. I'm talking about him making the story. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how you would play it if you wanted to deal with reality because it doesn't matter in reality. No. The story is only being told because there's a need to demonize Alvin Bragg in the Manhattan DA's office. Yeah. And instead of seeking for valid criticisms of the DA's office of which there would be plenty. The New York DA's office. Yeah. They're always dispensing perfect justice. Yeah. And I think I think that you could you could find things to complain about but they wouldn't line up
Starting point is 00:25:17 with Alex's politics. No. And they wouldn't be satisfying for the audience. Yeah. Because they wouldn't work in service the same way of like the most innocent person who got shot is indicted and being charged with attempted murder. Yeah. That's how silly it is that Trump is charged. These are the same people. The same people. Yeah. It's nonsense. Yeah. So as we've seen there is a trend in Alex's coverage around times when emotions are particularly hot when things are happening like a Trump impeachment or something like that. There's always going to be the false flags coming. Sure. Sure. There's a nuclear attack something along the lines to distract us from the real issues. Well there's that. And there is the
Starting point is 00:26:02 globalists are going to start pulling false flags which is preemptive cover for in case some right wing shithead goes out and bomb something. Right. Alex can say I called it and told you it was going to happen. Those are. And so he continues on this trend. Sure. Meanwhile I said this last week and now they've got Peter Strock and all the usual suspects from the FBI all over TV saying Republicans are going to start killing people bombing people shooting people. It's imminent. That means they've got method mental patients that are schizophrenic in hotel rooms right now with literal MK ultra programming which is a real thing. It's all come out the news telling them that they're the Messiah. They're going
Starting point is 00:26:43 to save the earth. It's a well-known brainwashing pattern. That's one of them. CIA just apologized to Canada for the seeking immunity last week for more than 10,000 children they kidnapped in the 60s 70s and 80s and they were trying to create mind control assassins with them. The Fox News again was Friday. Look it up. I mean you know I mean they created armies of these people. Sir hand sir hand drugged up. He didn't shoot Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the back. The CIA operative from the Skunk Works did. I really feel like we got pictures of that one. Sir hand sir hand was drugged up on an amnesiac drug. Really feel like we got pictures. He was there with a gun in his hand. Did none
Starting point is 00:27:25 of the shooting. So they got sir hand sir hands and John Hinckley juniors in the hotel rooms in the farms you know in the woods. They got them outside the cities and outside the towns ready to roll a man with truck bombs and just machine gun attacks and everything else and this is the flash face. You die Trump start blowing stuff up and if I was evil and if I was them and the same group that runs things today did Oklahoma City and so much more hopefully we can stop them by talking about this but they got the truck bombs loaded right now. Wow. So sincere. In this coup against America. Hopefully we can talk them out of this. Yeah. You heard Alex kind of tip his hand there
Starting point is 00:28:16 a bit when he was starting to say if I were them. Yeah. Just a pretty strong giveaway that most of his predictions about his imaginary enemies are just his own fantasies and what he would like to do to punish people that he doesn't like. Look at what these people are doing exactly what I would do if I was in their situation. That story that Alex is talking about the U.S. seeking immunity in a Canadian case is interesting but he's making up pretty much all of the details. Probably. There aren't armies of mind controlled patsies and they're never were. This is a pretty narrow case about whether or not the U.S. can be sued in a Canadian court for things that were done between
Starting point is 00:28:50 the 40s and 60s and the MK ultra experiments. Normally states have sovereign immunity and so if these people wanted to sue the U.S. government the appropriate place to do that would be in U.S. courts. But in 1982 Canada passed the State Immunity Act which is being argued that it allows people to sue a foreign government when there are cases of bodily injury involved. The question is whether or not this act is retroactive. Whether it applies and other various legal technicalities. I know that Alex's version is more fun and all but it only exists in his imagination. In reality the only reason he's even doing this whole presentation is because he's fairly sure that one of his compatriots is likely
Starting point is 00:29:29 to want to try to blow up a building or commit some other act of horrific domestic terrorism so this is just further preemptive damage control for that. In case it happens he has a built in narrative and clips he can point to saying I called it. I'm always right. Hashtag Alex Jones is right. 99 percent of the time I'm an Alex Jones right. Right. Right. Booby Booby. That's a good robot. Thank you. Yeah. I mean. OK. People couldn't see my impression. I was doing. You were doing. Yeah you were doing pretty good space work. I was pretty. I. I mean. I. Why. Why do we live in a world where it's like I don't know if we want to retroactively apply this whole the states can't murder people act. I just it's less the states
Starting point is 00:30:16 can't murder people. Can you sue that. I know but it's just open up a big old. No totally but again I think it's probably fine. Maybe we should open that can of worms. Maybe some worms need to be let out of that can. Yeah. I guess I guess the issue becomes at least from where I'm sitting. Sure. Who has standing if you go back far enough. Right. You know like right and your relatives to another state for bodily injury or something like that. Yeah. You know it does it does become a little bit murky at that point. You know people who would already be passed on. True true. But yeah I don't know. I think that there's a certain amount of accountability that probably should exist between states. But unfortunately in
Starting point is 00:31:00 order to really facilitate that kind of need a world government now. Yeah. Alex is pretty against that either that or your retribution is always. Well I guess we got a fight award to get you to pay this one million dollar bill. Yeah. Which I could see being a preferable outcome for Alex actually. I think you're right. So we have one last clip here from the fourth. And this is where I was like goodbye. I'm going to I'm not going to cover more of this. I'm not charmed by the idea of Andrew Napolitano coming on. He is not an interesting man. Nope. What's Roger Stone going to say. I could use more money. My legal defense fund is whatever. Hey you guys listen to the pillow guys. I've got a I've got a fucking discount
Starting point is 00:31:49 code. You want some of that. So this this this clip is pretty bad. Alex gets into some thoughts about the trans suicide rate. It's just it's I would have ended that. I would have ended when you described it. It's not it's not a good clip. I don't think it's few will enjoy will see. And they go we have the highest suicide rate. We have the highest death rate because they're almost half of them in studies are sex workers and are in a really destructive lifestyle in a sex cult and they're killing themselves and they're being killed not by us but by their pimps and all this. And then they point at conservatives thinking we want to run around and quote hurt people in drag or we want to ban books. No we're saying you
Starting point is 00:32:35 can't have pedophilic you're banning books telling kids to get in the back of a van with a guy when they come. And then it shows the man having sex with a child and how wonderful it is. That's just one of the books. We don't want libraries and that's against the law. Legislatures they get a mask. City councils we play the videos. They start reading penthouse about sex. That's about adults having sex. And they say would this be OK in the school. And they say we can't answer that because everybody knows you don't put penthouse in the elementary school or the high school. We can all agree on that. House doesn't tell hey if you're in a backyard and a man next door invites you in his shed wants to give
Starting point is 00:33:24 you a blow job. Go ahead and go over you'll like it. It'll be fun. Ask the man to give you a blow job. And then oh if a man asked you to these are books in school if a nice man wants to just give you pleasure. Remember what Oprah Winfrey said a few years ago. She said well kids don't know it's abuse. They like it. This is a load of disgusting bullshit. Yeah. And Oprah's comments were about how difficult it is to wrestle with having been abused as a child because of the confusion that comes along with it. Alex is lying to demonize an already vulnerable population and run cover for the fact that the GOP particularly in Florida are actively banning a ton of books that aren't pedophilic but are just things
Starting point is 00:34:02 that make white conservatives very uncomfortable. Alex is doing this because he wants those kind of books banned. But he also knows the calling for banning books that make him uncomfortable looks really bad. So he just pretends it's about something that's a little bit more defensible even though the thing he claims it about it's not happening. Listen listen I know that when you think of book bans you think of the Nazis immediately burning a lot of books. Now I'm not like that. I only want to burn books that tell the history of the United States I don't like. Right. See. It's very different. I'm different. Yeah. So there is a higher rate of participation in sex work among trans women than the general population
Starting point is 00:34:43 but that's not a major contributor to the suicide rate that people discuss. The first thing to keep in mind is that when people are talking about these statistics they are not talking about suicide rates. They're talking about attempted suicide rates. Death records don't include sexual orientation or gender identity typically so that gathering that information is not something that most of these studies have been able to capture. They deal with attempted suicides or you know desire to attempt which is important because that means that studies and surveys can capture the influences that led to that decision. Yeah. A 2020 study in the Journal of interpersonal violence found that microaggressions and
Starting point is 00:35:21 familial emotional neglect are two of the highest contributing factors generally speaking. Mean murderous pimps strangely didn't make an appearance in that study at all. Not even not even close. Yeah. The Trevor Project has also done a ton of work in this field and this is one of the things that's very consistent. Their 2022 survey found that if LGBTQ youth have a high level of familial support their risk of attempting was more than cut in half. In addition to that familial support acceptance and support in schools are also important variables that are associated with decreased suicidality. Right. We would be remiss if we didn't also mention that this Trevor Project survey found that 60% of respondents wanted
Starting point is 00:36:03 mental health care but did not receive it. There's a certain amount of the statistic that has nothing to do with someone being trans or non-binary but just with everyday mental health problems that end up not being able to be something they seek help for often due to financial inability or concerns that parents won't give their permission to seek treatment or even concerns that they'll be outed if they seek treatment. To the extent that trans folks are sex workers some of them want to be in that field and good for them. Others feel they have no other viable options which is not helped by the phenomenon of employment discrimination. Additionally many LGBTQ folk resort to sex work because they're kicked
Starting point is 00:36:43 out of their homes by unaccepting parents and find themselves on the street. In many ways a lot of the roads go back to the impact that having supportive and accepting family members has and the negative impact that not having that has. I know that Alex has no idea what he's talking about and he's just making shit up as he goes along but I do think that he knows what he's doing namely preaching a gospel that's designed to make more parents less accepting of their LGBTQ children thereby exacerbating the very problem he pretends that he's not making worse. Yeah I mean I can't relate by any stretch to an infinite number of situations but when I was I don't know 15, 16 I had recognized
Starting point is 00:37:30 that I was bipolar type one and I did not tell my parents or seek help until I was 23 because one I was worried that they weren't going to believe me and instead put me in some kind of church version of that you know just that idea of like if I do say this there is a possibility that I will be actively harmed by my family or kicked out you know and that's on a small scale yeah you know and that and that of course leads to like well I don't have value I don't have worth and I'm at any point in time if I act like who I am I will be punished and hurt for it so why the fuck still stay alive you know and that that is there yeah yeah I don't pretend to like obviously understand the full totality of this topic
Starting point is 00:38:19 mm-hmm and I would not pretend to be someone who's you know fully of course not yeah but to the extent that Alex is talking about this subject it's I mean it's disgraceful and it does strike me as like trying to bring about a scenario where the very thing that would be abundantly helpful yeah is impossible to achieve yeah and I think that's pretty awful yeah and I think he does on some level understand that yeah and and with with the knowledge we have now you can be convicted of a crime for bullying somebody who then winds up killing themselves you know for a sustained action towards this person who winds up killing themselves you are responsible but if you are on a national TV show bullying
Starting point is 00:39:18 people into the similar situation you are not held accountable for it it's the I guess the difference between targeted harassment and scattershot yeah universal harassment no it gets right back to one person as a person and a million people's the statistic you know it gets right back to that concept so anyway I had little patience yeah I was like well once Alex is describing this book I'm out yeah and and all this so we jump to the fifth good call and Trump has been arrested right and then he's given a speech boo yeah and Alex is mad about the response to that speech the state run globalist media decided to not air Trump's incredibly historic 24-minute speech we will air it all today in pieces and
Starting point is 00:40:06 I will comment rights we'll play a lot of excerpts as well Rachel Maddow said she would decide if her viewers were gonna see any of it of course she showed none of it these people are beyond evil here's some of the key things Trump had to say so Rachel Maddow is the only specific that Alex gives of anybody not playing the speech so that's great yeah and second Alex does not play the whole speech of course not which he said he's going to do he's complaining that other people didn't do yeah he doesn't make it through the whole thing yep yep yep I'm surprised I'm surprised anybody made it through that when you come out on the court out steps you give like a two-minute blurb and then you move on with your life I think
Starting point is 00:40:43 this was back at Mar-a-Lago I think he shouldn't be allowed to go back to Mar-a-Lago if anybody went to a white house oh my god I didn't know I Dan I think there might be two justice systems there may be no so look the good news is that the GOP is fully behind Trump which I don't know if that's true Republican leadership because of the massive backlash against this has been forced to get behind Trump a lot of them are working against Trump but make no mistake our Republic is in crisis today ladies and gentlemen this is a sorrows back to in New York 60 in prison Trump for 136 years that's the live show headline Alvin Bragg asked judge to hold Trump's trial during primary season totally timed Trump leads not
Starting point is 00:41:35 guilty to 34 felony counts deep state indictment against 6136 years in prison while Alvin Bragg releases shooters that shoot people days after they do it I think Alex is getting confused about the parking attempted yeah is he now like he's releasing this shooter that I just totally confused oh my god so people like Kevin McCarthy may feel the need to give some kind of knee jerk support to Trump to avoid alienating his fans right now this is not a status quo that can remain for long the 2024 general election is a presidential election but a whole lot of members of Congress are also up for reelection and you can bet your bottom dollar that they know that a sure path to losing is connecting their campaign to supporting Trump in his
Starting point is 00:42:21 legal case which will only get nastier and messier as things go along yeah the way that Trump is gonna act and lash out the speeches he's gonna give it's gonna be outrageous yeah I appreciate all the like polling I mean oh people instantly after Trump's indictment 50% support or whatever it is and it's like dude next week it'll be different we live in a world where a week is it completely changing the world who cares every seat in the house is contested and as it stands the GOP only has a four member majority so that shit is tight in the Senate there are 34 seats that are up for grabs only 11 of these seats are currently held by members of the GOP so they have a little bit less to lose but the margins
Starting point is 00:43:02 are very slim in the Senate so you don't want to lose anything no most of those Republicans in the Senate are pretty safe GOP places they're probably not gonna lose so you're probably gonna see a little bit more willingness to fuck around for people like Ted Cruz and Josh Holly sure we're both up for reelection but House members are probably gonna be way more cautious even beyond just electoral concerns most of these folks don't want their political existence tied to a guy who's probably gonna be convicted for these crimes because that creates the risk that their entire identity will be caught up in trying to absolve Trump at the expense of being able to spend that political capital in some other fight that
Starting point is 00:43:38 they care more about I mean I don't give a shit about this guy imagine if your campaign has to be entirely I'm going to pardon the imprisoned former president right great good work I don't know if that's really rallying cry for most what about health care fuck you the GOP folks in office will care about Trump until he's no longer potentially politically useful in the same way that they all hated him and tell you was the inevitable GOP candidate in 2016 once the downside outweighs the potential benefit they won't care but for Alex it's interesting because he likely has a different calculation for Alex the more likely it is that Trump goes to jail the more appealing it is to support him if Trump goes to jail
Starting point is 00:44:21 the narrative basically writes itself for Alex I can street he could scream from the mountaintop about how the rightful leader who sent to prison because he was he's too great of a threat to the globalist think about how many cokes are getting poisoned in prison off from the narrative perspective Trump going to jail is the best thing that could happen for Alex right now and like because he would be incarcerated and there would be a limited ability for him to like necessarily disseminate messages what have you Alex could control the narrative so well like there's so much like game he could play there yeah in the same way that carry with Mark Richards in prison she basically gets to control the entire
Starting point is 00:44:58 story yeah Alex could do so much with a imprisoned Trump yeah and we're not going to have to worry about a letters from an Alabama country jail County jail from from our boy Trump over there maybe a tweet yeah from a jail but then also you got to think like Trump can't profit off his crime or whatever but Alex can yeah like spoiler alert I think I have a clip in a little bit yeah here I'll just play this for you okay so I will give the number out we come back also the Trump campaign is fundraising off of a mug shot they made because they didn't give him a mug shot because they wanted to deny him the image of what they're trying to do put him in jail for 136 years and so we made a mock mug shot of Trump I think just
Starting point is 00:45:48 as good as his as well as both fundraisers for Trump and for us if you want to support Trump they'll get the shirt from them but also get the limited edition shirt at infowarstore.com ours is very similar ours says political prisoner and has him in a mug shot photo we were really disappointed that they didn't make a real mug shot but we're still gonna try and make some money off this yep we had the idea and it's too good it's so good actually Trump's doing it too no we had the idea first we had the idea first it's a very similar shirt but on one the profits go to me and on the other the profits think about the hundred different things that you could do to make money off Trump political prisoner it's Alex would just
Starting point is 00:46:26 have a field day with yeah yeah Trump for not prison would be a shirt yeah yeah yeah so you heard on the last episode that Alex said Judge Andrew de Palatano was gonna be on and turns out Alex is not above telling tales out of school about things that were said off air good judge Andrew de Palatano on yesterday saying the plan is to bring Hillary in as the VP during the election then have Biden step down to high level he told me this offer I should have raised it on there I said how do you know that he's a guy that doesn't make stuff up he said no I talked to top level Democrat donors they say Hillary is totally behind all this yeah man Hillary's back yeah you know I feel like right now most Democratic
Starting point is 00:47:08 voters are hoping for a return to the old aristocracy you know they're like oh we've got it's this new aristocracy that's bad the only person who is in any way interested in Hillary being in the mix is Alex yeah 100% and I just feel like this is so old I feel like you will it into existence so it'll be it'll make him money you know what one of the big problems was with the show heroes know that NBC show heroes I do we've talked extensively but mostly when we were drunk at about seven years ago yeah the problem with you but there's a number of things first the writer strike but let's leave that aside fair Seiler was the problem sure Zachary Quinto was really great as a menacing villain sure
Starting point is 00:47:50 and his power set was really interesting yeah and unfortunately they kept him around they kept him around into season two and three and it was just like all right you know what are we doing why Seiler's still around he was a great villain and he should have died at the end of the first season yeah and then move on to another villain or something a new story some kind of thing but he's so good that they kept him around and there's a problem that's that's what ultimately I believe really hampered their ability to grow as a show yeah and Alex is doing the same thing with Hillary although she did she is not she does not have telekinesis no true it's not able to confirm she does not have telekinesis as of this printing
Starting point is 00:48:36 she is not able to steal other people's superpowers yeah you can have the same big bad in inspector gadget for as long as you want but in a real life show or with people you got it but also if you have the same big bad then you have to have like sort of smaller big bad right that are still a threat of course that you can handle and then the big bad is always kind of getting away and there's a bomb in his chair fantastic way to escape if we need to flee believe me that is what the fuzz we'll find here yeah but like they turned Seiler good for a little while no come on anyway I have a lot more thoughts about heroes I haven't bought that shit since the white ranger my friend I'm not doing that again I just
Starting point is 00:49:24 don't want to hear more about Hillary yeah it seems tired yeah we need to be done we need to be done I can't even imagine his audience getting excited about her she's not bothering me anymore I little do you know she's behind it all soros pulls off his mask it's Hillary it's always a mission impossible Tom Cree's mask okay so um Bragg Alvin Bragg sure he's up to more bad stuff oh no DA's office oh all of it quarterback by this soros legal institute they set up where they let hardened criminals out and murderers out and don't even charge him or let him go and then they put all of us in the prisons we're all terrorist this is for pro america and they list all these dozens of things that are terrorist it goes
Starting point is 00:50:15 on and on sex fee and get sweet deal from Manhattan DA Bragg on team rate charge then attacks five others and again just last week they charged a parking garage attendant who did his job and went over and confronted a man peacefully said what are you doing breaking in cars they got turns shoots him in the stomach the man takes the gun away shoots him they're charging him but but now they're not I mean this is a plan folks you make a good point yeah so Alex is still lying about the parking attendant story I say lying even though he probably has no idea what the reality is because I know that even if he heard that the charges had been dropped he'd still tell his audience the same story yeah it doesn't matter yeah
Starting point is 00:50:56 it satisfies what it needs to satisfy yeah which is the emotional needs of the audience as for the sex themed case is a little bit more of a mess the situation is this man named Justin Washington was offered a plea deal where he would get 30 days in jail and five years probation on a rape charge being pled down to a charge of coercion a spokesperson for the DA's office said that they had consulted with sex crimes prosecutors who had been in contact with the victim and their family and that the plea deal was partially in service of finding a way to hold Washington responsible but make it so the victim would not have to testify the amount of evidence prosecutors had forced them to reduce the charges from
Starting point is 00:51:34 first-degree rape and first-degree sexual abuse to third-degree which dropped Washington's bail to twelve thousand dollars which was he was able to meet okay he had no prior arrests and made all court appearances so it doesn't seem that outlandish that he would be offered to be able to be released on bail however just a few days before he was said to be sentenced he went on an assault spree this is pretty awful like it's ridiculous he was like climbing up people's fire escapes masturbating looking in their windows and stuff he was a man what the fuck yeah it's awful and naturally the DA's office has moved to retract the plea deal Alex and his ilk are pretty obsessed at the moment with delegitimizing Alvin Bragg
Starting point is 00:52:14 and the Manhattan DA's office so whatever appearance of wrongdoing will be naturally blown out of proportion but it's important to keep in mind that Alex doesn't care about at all about this parking attendant or any of Washington's victims this is literally only an issue for Alex because it helps him make Trump look less guilty for instance to my knowledge Alex has never spoken about Stephen Broderick Broderick was a Austin Travis County Sheriff's deputy who was charged in 2020 with sexually assaulting a child while he was out on bond he committed a triple murder his victims including his ex-wife and his stepdaughter who was the victim in the sexual assault case so I mean like DA's offices you
Starting point is 00:52:56 know right people it's it's not a situation that's unique to the Manhattan DA's office and it's definitely not just something that we should accept as an inevitability of life but on the flip side if people truly are innocent until proven guilty it does not make sense to take someone with no prior convictions and deny them bail the sweetheart deal that was offered to Washington wasn't related to his it wasn't related to the ability to commit further crimes but that's the story how it needs to be told for Alex because he only needs the story to prompt to prop up the Trump is a victim narrative yeah you know I'm saying like he got out on bail yeah it wasn't the sweetheart deal or whatever they that allowed
Starting point is 00:53:36 that and the sweetheart deal wasn't what reduced his bail it was the lack of evidence and and what have you without the victim available to testify that required the dropping of the charge which led to him being able to afford the bail so like there is there is a reality of the legal system that is an unfortunate truth of of you know how these things work that led to this not the DA's office itself yeah and the sweetheart deal that was there is now being revoked so yeah it feels like what you're saying to me is if a bunch of people try and do what they feel they can do within the system to respect the needs of a victim while I mean I guess being part of the legal system you need to be able to
Starting point is 00:54:24 see the future to make sure that you're doing everything perfectly right and that mistakes like this don't happen yeah I mean because those protections are the ones that we want if we are in a situation where we are not guilty of a crime or or even if we are guilty of a crime and are fucking human beings with dignity Alex screams about due process all the time rights of the accused and then and what have you and then as soon as it's advantageous for him to ignore that stuff he does so no I mean it's like on balance if you're trying to respect the innocence until proven guilty without knowledge of the future shit's gonna get wild yeah yeah yep sometimes not all the time but sometimes a mess a mess so Alex
Starting point is 00:55:15 starts listening to Trump's speech I think he wanted to take a real easy day yeah he wanted to be like when the substitute comes in with a video sure wheels in the TV wheels in the TV woo the cathode ray tube but unfortunately within like 20 seconds of listening to this he starts getting really mad the speech was powerful but the crowd would not shut up but this is one of my big irritants with high-level Trump supporters they're in there drinking it's a big carnival they love being near the president they love the fancy beautiful architecture and they just it's it's like a beauty pageant or something like they thought they were right it should have been solemn and they should have just clap but instead it's like they're
Starting point is 00:56:14 at a rodeo or a disco track and they're like it's this ain't funny this ain't fun this is war and people better get that through their heads this is deathly serious and I'm not mad at the crowd I've just I've seen it I'm not mad at the crowd and there is no leering and the same thing happen is rallies yeah no shit that's what his rallies were what what what celebrity has he ever had people were always like tailgating and selling knickknacks and stuff you wanted people to scream Bill Clinton is a rapist as many times as you paid them to do it what are we doing here oh they should have been solemn yes this is a should have been more respectful yeah it's a little drunken you know what I was thinking and hollering
Starting point is 00:57:12 I was thinking precisely that outside of the courthouse there were too many elites drinking their pimp cups pimp's cups you know what I was thinking too was that like when we were in Austin Alex was just very respectful to the proceedings oh totally yeah he was very solid and it was a solid it was a solid moment yeah especially when he was out front surrounded by bodyguard screaming especially when he was still in the courthouse screaming right outside of the courtroom the way that he was told not to respectful yeah yeah go fuck yourself go fuck yourself asshole yeah so how can these people have fun how can they have fun at a time like this because it's hilarious no no no I mean it is hilarious like they're
Starting point is 00:57:54 having fun this is not fun and I'm just saying it's the wrong attitude man Trump is being attacked I'm being attacked Rogers being attacked let me just say this Owen shroyer is facing a year in prison Sam Montoya that went in peace with the Capitol showed Ashley about being murdered didn't hurt anything he sent us today at 1 p.m. Eastern he called me during the break and said please pray for me our camera guy so this is very real okay there's oh there's almost a thousand political prisoners hundreds of them having been charged two plus years later not sure about that but Sam Montoya was filming for Info Wars when he stormed the Capitol and it would be hard to say that his actions which he caught on film himself
Starting point is 00:58:37 didn't help him get charged yeah for instance there was that part where he yelled quote we're storming or the part where he did a plug for the Info Wars store while he was entering the Capitol building yeah you know he got a little carried away in the moment is what I might say got sales got sales yeah anyway he was sentenced to 120 days of house arrest three years probation and 60 hours of community service he better remember to do that community service too since that's why Owen shroyer got charged with anything he didn't do his community service from his previous plea agreement over disrupting Congress so he was technically trespassing just by being at the Capitol on January 6th he hasn't
Starting point is 00:59:14 been sentenced yet but I'm sure it's just gonna be a slap on the wrist yeah also I mean like look Sam Montoya is a cameraman so there better be some breaking news at his house yeah capturing film right out front of his house perhaps through the window you know I can't help but think that this would all be so much easier if anybody had tried to hold Nixon accountable you know like if Nixon had been arrested for the crimes that he committed and been in court for them yeah it would be much easier for everybody to swallow the pill of the president committing a crime and then going to jail for it there would be much more of a precedent yeah yeah yeah every time of the other precedent every time
Starting point is 00:59:55 people are like oh this is the first time that a former president has been charged I've been like what but yeah that's our fault not theirs yeah there's a first time for everything yeah so Alex he wants to see what he wants to do is he wants to structure this like I'm gonna listen to some of the speech then and take some calls sure I'm gonna listen to some of the speech and then take some calls right but every time he starts listening to the speech he gets too bored well I get bored too right and Alex gets bored and he realizes he's built this up as like the most momentous historic power speech but then Trump just starts rambling about bullshit and then Alex has to this is I find this so funny
Starting point is 01:00:59 or hung up and discussed because of something I inappropriately said because nothing was said wrong in fact at the end of the call we agreed to continue our conversation about election fraud and election fraud specifically in Georgia at a later time many people on the phone including lots of lawyers nobody found anything wrong with that perfect call until a promotion tour many months later so what Trump does in the first part of the speech which is not the most powerful part it's very powerful very historic very look at all the false charges before look at all the things they said I did I didn't do and now they're just backing in more desperate than ever because they know we're waking up and they're losing
Starting point is 01:01:42 control of our minds I'm Alex Jones this is the info war the globalists are coming for assault but we're waking up and we're strong we have got on our side and we can and we must prevail there's something so pure about the moment of Alex listening to the speech that he hasn't listened to before but he's built up as like the most important totally historic kind of like we will fight them on the beach is yeah absolutely and then it's just this rambling nonsense he's like this isn't the powerful part can you imagine watching Patton and just hearing him be like ah and then there's a district eternity like what are you what are we doing my phone call was perfect even more perfect than the other perfect
Starting point is 01:02:19 call what do we do nobody said that I said anything you know if Trump didn't have an absurdly rich Nazi dad then he would just be a fucking shitty comedian doing VFWs maybe you know ambition yeah well that's fair um so Alex comes back and he plays some more of Trump's speech he's gonna get to the the part that's actually like really powerful okay she said that I falsified my financial statements but in fact we're proving and we'll prove that my financial statements were substantially more than we submitted will you and in all cases every strong destroy my clause and then which tells the institutions that may look at that if they want to not to rely on the same but they've got a problem with their
Starting point is 01:03:08 case because number one I'm very underleveraged they can't believe it all the stuff they read and gave and have very little debt relative to the value of assets and importantly not one bank has lost even one dollar she was investigating me to say thanks very good lawyers but they didn't lose a dollar with us during this period of time in fact the banks we're talking about made almost 200 million dollars off Donald Trump and they liked me very much we never missed the payment never got did you say that bankers love you as your campaign speech cool cool and again this is the weakest part of the space it gets really hard to recall first we talked about the Soviet Union and the tyranny and the takeover
Starting point is 01:04:06 of America but if anything Trump defends himself too much he's got to go on the offense more here yeah sure yeah I always love it when you're breaking down a speech and you have to multiple times say this isn't the good part isn't the good part this is the part where the guy is rambling about bullshit it is maybe there's a reason that other news outlets will just play parts that are relevant yeah you know you'll go in ahead of time do a little bit of advanced legwork right and find the parts that mean something and chop out all the the dead weight right which I mean I think is inarguably a bad thing for the rest of the world is the fact that they only showed parts of the speeches where Trump accidentally
Starting point is 01:04:51 said something meaningful as opposed to an hour long ramble session like this where he's like let me explain why I am not guilty of campaign finance charges I have so much cash I have so much cash and bankers love me what a stirring speech so Alex decides like I'm tired of defending this nonsense I'm gonna go to some call good call so Alex takes a call and this person does not like Trump let's go to and in Florida and you're on here go ahead hello yes welcome God bless you Alex and the crew also thank you my comment is that as you know Trump is a showman and while the arrest for me was the whole thing was a publicity stunt by Trump he could have stayed in Florida Governor DeSantis said he wouldn't
Starting point is 01:05:44 extradite him and he went and to me he just surrendered again just like he did with the election so it's really a disappointment and it's just for show well I think it's fair to say he backed down some of the election and back down on the shots but if he didn't go to New York they would say he was guilty and absconding and they could probably get a federal warrant and bypass that so I think you know going and facing his false accusers and saying he's not guilty I think that's kind of his right to do that I don't know but it's fair to say that was bad or maybe it's right but to me it does it's just like he choked again and you know he gave up on the Jan Sixers and his best friend Paul Manafort
Starting point is 01:06:29 still in jail you know the guy that ran this campaign I just I just good point not doing it for me well Manafort is out of jail oh that's good listen I have your criticisms of Trump and I agree with you that he's not perfect Trump pardon Manafort like I know it's like forever ago what are you talking about what fun what fun I do appreciate that her fundamental criticism is my problem is we're still in a democracy beneath beneath some of the aesthetic complaints she has yeah Trump should have overthrown the government yeah and I'm disappointed that he didn't and he didn't and so now where we're at this is all for show which I actually kind of agree with her on that point I mean like the actual
Starting point is 01:07:16 arrest isn't now the legal proceeding isn't for show but Trump's behavior towards it certainly is and the desire to get a mug shot so he could make the shirt to sell right what have you like yeah flying to Florida to do it instead of doing it remotely yeah or whatever yes or I'm sorry flying to New York yeah of course that's that's show I don't that's rallying the base I don't appreciate the amount of climate damage he did just so he could hop over to New York and say I'm sorry for forcing myself to be arrested for all the crimes I committed and then flying back mm-hmm yeah great so this same caller this is a really interesting exchange okay because she makes the very accurate accusation that Alex's show
Starting point is 01:08:01 supports Trump okay Alex responds by pretending that she called him a shill and this is how that breaks down all right I hope we have a different candidate I know your show has been pushing him and everything but I don't really see him as the answer he had too many people I know I know shills a $10 word and that's cute and everything and I like it you said Paul Manafort's in prison he was out of prison two years ago okay okay you you you said I'm a shill so just tell me how I'm a show the word shill you use the word show I guess that you guys are pushing him so every time you have on Roger he's you know he's like slamming the Sanchez claiming his wife is you know the Academy award doll and it's
Starting point is 01:08:51 just really not nice and then it's just to me you know I don't really see it I'm a Floridian I really like the governor I like Ron Paul I mean there's other people that I think to do the job because like I said Trump choked and it's I don't think he deserves another chance listen I share your criticism of Trump on the poison shots but the system coming out to the front runner if they do this to a Democrat I would be against it okay absolutely not absolutely you Hillary for prison Hillary for prison church so I think if you listen to that she said your show is pushing him yeah Alex I think is pretending that he heard her say shill yeah because grammatically it doesn't make sense no your shill is promoting
Starting point is 01:09:40 him I think that he was just trying to find a way to have a false argument yeah instead of addressing how like show supports Trump yes yeah yes he can't just be like yeah I mean we do yeah yeah yeah he has to pretend like we're here on all sides I mean yeah I mean Roger Stone was pardoned by Trump for the come on crimes that right now Trump is being like Roger Stone is you can't say that he is not like a person who is always going to have an angle that is Trump yeah totally it's not like well maybe Roger will be swayed to DeSantis unless Trump is not an option and maybe he'll support DeSantis right where Trump is an option Roger is going to support Trump yeah and that is the same with a lot
Starting point is 01:10:25 of the people in Alex's orbit if you look at his guest catalog like there are a shocking number of Trump hardliners let's say in a way that there aren't DeSantis hardliners right you'll hear that from a caller from time to time maybe but not from the people that Alex promotes and there are his vaunted experts yeah I mean what is what is fascinating about that is that because Trump operates like a mob boss he has people who are loyal to the family yeah so to speak and DeSantis doesn't do that DeSantis doesn't have that well he might he might just do it poorly he might just do it quietly or whatever or badly or badly I hate that word but yeah I mean it is it is like this is the benefit of operating
Starting point is 01:11:10 like a criminal organization is these people have hitched their wagons to you and if they let go for a second they're in open waters and sharks can come after them whenever they want you know you need the discernment to like the word badly you're killing me you're killing me so that caller she did not call Alex a shill no which makes the next caller pretty funny okay Maldi in Florida you're on the air go ahead yeah hi Alexander this is why this is the greatest show in the history of the world because you allow people to come on and call you a shill to your face so thank you very much for this opportunity you get to be on the air and accuse people of calling you a shill to your face that's not fair that's
Starting point is 01:11:54 stolen valor it is it's it's stolen acceptance yeah yeah yeah yeah so look shit's getting serious yeah the globalists sure they're making their move sounds like they have for the last every day for the last 20 years it has been a long time yeah but this time they're really making okay for real they are desperate they are in trouble they are panicking their programs are in trouble worldwide they're destroying our dominance in their attempt to dominate the world it was American soft powers what people listen to us because they thought we were free and they aspire to be like us now they hate us but the world shouldn't hate America Americans on average are still good people not as good as we were we're gonna make our
Starting point is 01:12:34 republic strong in an example of the world not a bully but I can tell you behind the scenes ladies and gentlemen I've learned information about liberty to tell you yet just how bad it is the enemy is moving on all fronts against everybody right now we're in the middle of a coup they're not just going after Trump and you should take every hour we're on air as very special I could be off the year by tomorrow just so you know sure now I got your attention oh my god you fucking you do not chicken little ass son of a did it work right I've got your attention now claiming that we're in the middle of a coup so the bankruptcy must not be going great no I doubt it I get that sense that's kind of what I hear from
Starting point is 01:13:21 this but yeah I the more you listen to him over longer periods of time the more you see like ah this again yep we're gonna be gone tomorrow again I'm so tired but I do still think that there is like something behind it not that like the globalists are making a move or sure sure sure that's a fun literary flourish right but I do think that there is something of like a the shit's going bad with my finances yeah and I don't know if this Trump shirt is gonna sell as well as I hope it will yeah and so they get there's there's the Alex Jones live thing didn't work yeah yeah that was that was so close to working it was hidden so well one of that painting how did they find it how did they find it
Starting point is 01:14:12 I think it's because of us it might be I think we talked about it might be it might be no I think Mark heard us talk about it was like oh this shit's going I don't know if it was Mark but it probably some similar kind of connection oh my god so yeah I think we fucked ourselves that not getting that painting so damn it so I heard this next clip and I was like god damn it why why they're about to take everything ladies and gentlemen you're about to not have food at the grocery stores and we don't stop them sure these people are psychotic communists you think created communism the Rothschilds the rich people more they rob you what is Soros who was there as he goes around in bankrupt countries and steals old
Starting point is 01:14:59 people's pension funds and the left worships him when he was 14 was rounding up fellow Jews what a nice person Mike Adams is coming up on the banking collapse the bank ranger tend to think so I'm gonna introduce him he's a takeover host oh my god I got bankruptcy business to take care of so I would leave and let my guy toast the rest of the show there's not gonna be groceries in the well I mean maybe you won't be able to afford him as well we got the bank ranger coming on we got the bank ranger to talk about the banking collapse I do think that Alex did have a bankruptcy hearing yeah that day and so he had to leave early I think so no I think I might have seen Morgan Stringer
Starting point is 01:15:47 tweeting about it yeah I'm not sure about the exact date but that does seem to line up yeah so we get another caller before Mike Adams shows up and I turned things off good call but this caller is an interesting question that leads to Alex making a shocking revelation Pete in Washington go ahead you're on the air thanks Alex I just wondered if you'd ask Robert Barnes why he turned on DeSantis so aggressively when DeSantis is opposed to the Vax but Trump isn't okay well let's talk about that Barnes was into some of the internal discussions with the two trying to get him sorry what he believed they would do it the Stannis went ahead and decided to go ahead and run against Trump Barnes works for Trump
Starting point is 01:16:30 and that's no secret so he's going with Trump it's not rocket science I like both men wait Barnes works for Trump I'm sorry Barnes works for Trump is that legal you have him on the payroll I guess I mean I don't know is Barnes does he work at inforce anymore he doesn't have his show right but he's on a bit like that seems I that seems a mess the ethics of something are wrong then can he work for Trump who's running for office right gamble on elections right right there's a lot of questions I mean I didn't realize that Barnes worked for Trump yeah that's kind of fucking me up the ethical implications of this are wild yeah and then think about like that caller who might be indicted for campaign fight think
Starting point is 01:17:17 about that caller who said that like your show supports Trump your Barnes works for Trump Roger might as well work for Trump yeah you have multiple like Trump employees and very adjacent people who are your experts on politics yeah what do you what the fuck do you think people are going to come away with the image of no again campaign finance shit on this is accepting payment in kind you know like this is being paid in advertising yeah in theory you know depending on what his employment is with Trump yeah there is a paid programming kind of dynamic for him coming on getting free airtime and you have theoretically for yeah yeah well yeah that's a good point and you have to assume that he works for Trump
Starting point is 01:18:01 at some capacity as a lawyer you'd think you'd think right so that means that him discussing Trump's cases and all of that shit is weird oh man I just more judges should know that Barnes works for Trump I just feel like that if that's not everybody knows that it's with this shit's weird I think that I did like I did know that he was like consulting with Trump at some point but I thought that was in the past I didn't realize Alex is saying this in the present right I mean he could be exaggerating that's true yeah he could be lying about it trying to increase your feelings that Barnes is close to Trump yeah yeah no that's true and it would be a good way to get out of this question that the person's
Starting point is 01:18:45 asking yeah yeah yeah you don't have to explain anything away other than like Barnes works for him of course he's of course Trump you know a deal he was working on fell through totally yeah yeah yeah yeah so the same caller has more questions America is in dire straits we need somebody who's gonna swing forward the fences and you do that but Trump does not look get don't get me wrong I've been super critical of Trump and all the Hollywood s crap in it and and and and Jared Kushner I'm just simply saying they're going after him fraudulently now we cannot support that even if you don't like Trump now I agree they're going after him but he spoke 95% of the time on his ego and how they molested his underwear
Starting point is 01:19:30 and then five minutes on all the other no I agree why didn't he talk about his underwear and his passport he should have been on the attack but he's good question like I'm gonna take down the deep state the new world order and you know I just I mean what am I supposed to then okay what am I supposed to support then Biden when we did our last 2004 episode Alex was talking about Rush Limbaugh in the way that he equivocated and repealed to lesser of two evils arguments you see Alex dealing with this caller and he has no better tools at his disposal because on a very basic level Alex understands that based on the stated principles that he has he should not support Trump yep but his adjacency to power has made
Starting point is 01:20:13 him so much money and he understands how fruitful that game is he's addicted yep he's stuck in that space and totally can't get away from it it's fascinating yeah it's such a case study I mean take if you just squint really hard so you can't see all the horrific bigotry and all these other things factors and Alex's content sure such a fascinating case study of like the damage that comes with having a brand that's being above politics yeah and then recognizing how profitable it is to be invested in this electoral politics yeah but at the same time being unwilling to shed the veneer the false character that you had at the beginning yeah your ego won't allow it and your wallet can't resist it yeah it's
Starting point is 01:21:01 fascinating yeah fucked himself over so hard man I don't even it's not like a fall no it's like an adaptation he's but it's an adaptation that involves like tripping on something sure he's tripping over his own past dead body I understand you're saying it's not a fall from grace or anything like that but there is some sort of a pratfall that's involved yeah yeah yeah like I mean I guess switching the grift isn't too much but the grift relied on an actual principle principle back then or adherence to an imagined principle yeah yeah that's probably a better way of putting it because it wasn't really it wasn't really a principle right but I mean it gave you the perception that it was yeah and that brand
Starting point is 01:21:53 is what drove so much of the attention that he originally got yeah and it appealed or it drove that appeal that went and tricked a lot of maybe more center or left leaning people to thinking this is some anti-establishment guy who really really cares he's not just on some right-wing shit right you know right and I think that that worked to his advantage quite a bit the thought occurs to me that if I were to hear somebody talk about their indictment and then also talk about their underwear yeah I would think this is an interesting person who shouldn't be president yeah I feel like it's really not hard I feel like I got there so fast yeah and somehow this caller took a long time but he got there yeah so
Starting point is 01:22:42 this caller has some other thoughts and sure and it leads Alex to revealing more off air things that Andrew Napolitano great definitely didn't tell him but Alex now wants to say he did you got a strike when the iron is hot and you got to make your move when the time is appropriate the time for DeSantis to move has been recently listen I had Andrew Napolitano on yesterday he talked to top Democrat fundraisers top people is off you know he told me I could say it on air but not that you know the who-who and they said we they actually want Trump because they think they can beat him and so that's basically what's going on they did this to energize Trump with his base so that Trump is the nominee to actually stop DeSantis
Starting point is 01:23:24 to the whole time we thought they wanted to Sanis it looks like they want Trump but it's it's just it's super complex Machiavelli and it's not like the globalists know everything well this this feels surprisingly like Alex making stuff up and then ascribing it to somebody else I'm sorry it's not like the globalists know everything they do according to Alex that is the fundamental principle by which we are judging the globalists is their infinite power and planning they're down with the devil yeah the literal Christian devil they have access to like supernatural stuff much like Alex does yeah yeah odd odd hey it's not like the globalists are all that powerful they whiff sometimes yeah what am I supposed to say the
Starting point is 01:24:09 globalists always win I've been doing this for 20 years come on now Jesus so yeah now apparently they indicted Trump and arrested him in order to get him his base excited right as an attack on DeSantis right which is what the high level people told Andrew Napolitano which he said Alex could say on air but not say the names of the really elite people who said this I love it when you're not allowed to say it's almost like it's made up yeah yeah it's made up I I mean can we can't we not deal with electoral politics when it's not happening you know like why are we always I'm not right now that's what I'm saying I'm just talking about Alex talking about no no totally I'm just saying you like as a as a
Starting point is 01:24:50 country yeah you know yeah it feels like we did less in the past yeah let's make it an election year at least maybe a year is too long for me but at least one year is a round number that we can handle the forever is not fun yeah it's too much yeah it's too much yeah we should probably do some reform boy boy howdy one or two so we have one last clip here and it's another cuz fucking Mike Adams comes in it takes over the show yeah Alex leaves at like the third hour he's got shit to do yeah a hearing undoubtedly so he gets another caller and this caller makes a great point interesting and then Alex hangs up on him that sounds right let's talk to Stan and Texas go ahead sir hey so I think it's
Starting point is 01:25:40 I think it's really interesting terms coming out in this speech and he's talking about how Bragg and James ran their campaigns to get elected to their offices about on we're gonna get Trump and put him in jail or we're gonna lock him up when you know we saw so many Trump rallies where the main thing sat there every single Trump rally was lock her up Trump literally ran on that particular that particular promise which he couldn't even do he couldn't even get anywhere near Hillary and I just gotta say it's ridiculous also Trump's speech was not was not hidden by the mainstream media nearly everybody's freaking covered it live you're crazy if you think that it didn't happen and you're lying if you're if you are telling
Starting point is 01:26:30 people that it's being censored it's not it's all over the place okay well a bunch of channels I've got the articles right here so they weren't gonna carry it live so they played a few clips out of it so I mean you're saying Trump wasn't taking off Twitter and Facebook none of us are being censored I appreciate I appreciate your worldview it's an interesting universe good points we're out of time yeah what a great runaway what a great runaway so there's a there's a really standard manipulation technique that Alex is employing there where he responds to a different point than what the caller brought up yeah the caller said that the media wasn't covering up Trump's speech and that some networks even aired it live yeah to this point in the
Starting point is 01:27:14 show the only specific like I mentioned that Alex is even given is that Rachel Maddow said that she might not air it which Alex has now turned into like a media blackout yeah yeah because Alex knows that he has no leg to stand on here he pretends that the caller is denied that Trump was kicked off Facebook and Twitter he has to put a position into the caller's mouth that he can mock because he can't defend his own position you notice that as soon as he pulled that maneuver the next thing he does was does was hang up immediately and no more calls because Alex can I think he can get the sense that this caller isn't going to be thrown by a very basic manipulation tactic no he seems like somebody who has a
Starting point is 01:27:51 thought in his head yeah and Alex can't at all handle the previous Hillary for prison no lock her up stuff no no no like he must pretend that didn't even happen yeah no he must have been thanking God that's the guy yeah yeah he's like oh sweet I can bullshit this one yeah I've got nothing for locker up yeah because in reality the only way you can go well there's two ways you could say like you know what that's a good point maybe it's not such a bad thing that these people campaigned on that or I guess the flip side could be like yeah in hindsight it was bad for Trump to do that we should do a moral inventory on this check in how we're doing right right that's either of those is one
Starting point is 01:28:30 like either get rid of your complaints about Bragg or throw a complaint to Trump and yourself for that that's one way sure the other way is to say yeah with Hillary it was real yeah the crimes were real in this case it's not yeah and Alex probably I don't know why he wouldn't think to do that it would be an easy because the crimes are real will be an easy dodge within his narratives right and stuff but it would open a second stage of like then now are you are you ready to defend that right against somebody who may have a rebuttal right no you are not nope nope so he wouldn't want to argue that with like who he probably projects this caller to be with somebody who actually has some information and can think through
Starting point is 01:29:16 things yeah it's funny that like right before that the caller pointed out how stupid Trump speech was and then this caller was like they showed it almost incredulous what are we doing here this was a terrible speech in the first place yeah and we know that because we saw it we saw it because they aired it they aired it yeah crazy so I think that the coverage in the time of Trump's arrest not robust could be more insightful yeah yeah I think I think that there is a feeling of kind of not inevitability but just a like fuck yeah kind of thing going on yeah I don't feel a lot of fighting Alex I just feel like he's I mean but again I think it's because he wants Trump to go to jail yeah no it's the best possible thing totally
Starting point is 01:30:12 totally totally he should be happy with the way things are turning out but I guess he's supposed to feign some kind of I'm not happy about right right right and that's why he can't really make that argument against the locker up being like all of those are fake and these are real because these are real you know yeah yeah so I hope that we can find something interesting in the in the next for our next episode maybe a present day thing who knows but I was pretty disappointed that the day of the arrest did veer so strongly into that transphobic territory yeah it's that's too much it's just shit and Jesus right yep I don't understand when the day of your like God King being arrested yeah that isn't
Starting point is 01:31:06 foremost on your mind yeah and you have to veer into demonizing people it's it speaks to real problem yeah I mean to me that is your we will fight them on the beaches moment should be should be you know that is the moment that you that you as Alex Jones based upon what you have been doing this is when you rally even the people who criticize you well and I think that he thinks that's what he's doing but the way he's doing it is saying that he prefers Sharia law to LGBTQ acceptance yes and that's probably not good no don't think that's gonna be an appealing message to the left the right or the middle doubtful so we'll be back Jordan with another episode but until then we have a website indeed we
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