Knowledge Fight - #808: May 15, 2023

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check out a busy day for Alex. In this installment, Alex hosts Steven Crowder's show, and then does his own show from Steven's studio, where he chats with the head of a website that white supremacists totally love.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Trydown Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex

Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today, Jordan, is last night I went out to Trivia. I'm sorry, what? Went out to a bar at Trivia. You went out to a bar at Trivia? Yeah, with a good friend Angela Lampsberry. Of course. Went out to some bar at Trivia. I was going to say, nobody else you'd know would drag you out to bar Trivia.

I enjoy bar Trivia. I know. I understand. Yeah. We had a great time. Came in second place. Ooh. Yeah, almost won.

We would have won if it weren't for one question. So I'll give it to you here in a minute. Okay. But we did quite well. Had team name. Supposed to be Hunk or Honey from the 80s. Sure. And an 80s slang term.

Okay. First slang term first. Uh-huh. First pitch Angela Lampsberry made was bitching Kissinger's. Oh boy. Can't beat that. Can't beat that. Yeah.

Stuck. Kissinger in the 80s. He was a sex symbol for a while. That guy was hot. I mean, he wasn't. And yet he somehow was still like in newspapers and people were like, holy shit. I don't think that was ever the case. 100% true.

Maybe not in the 80s though. He was already like 60 by then. I don't know. I'm telling. Well, it's not like he was ever a good looking. Hmm. I don't know. But anyway, we went with that.

And yeah, came in second. Here's the question. Okay. So it was the people who could who big stars who had a breakout in the 80s. Okay. And so it was the who was the older brother in Goonies. Essentially was the question boiled down to. Who played the older brother in Goonies?

I don't know. But the only name I have in my head is River Phoenix. So I'm just going to go with that one. No. Yeah. I went. No, obviously. The only name I could come up with from Goonies was Sean Aston.

Right. Oh yeah. That's right. He wasn't that. And it also forced me to confront something that I hadn't realized. Wasn't Dawson's Creek in that? Joshua Jackson. Yeah.

Or the other guy. No. Joshua Jackson. I don't know. Okay. I realized that I've never seen Goonies. I was just thought I had. But I guess I haven't.

I don't know if I have either. I remember the truffle shuffle. I remember the guy with the eye. They never say die. Right. Yeah. I know some references from it. Yeah.

I think it's one of those things where you've seen more through references than you have. You don't realize. Sometimes you don't realize you haven't seen it much like George Thurgood. Oh yeah. You don't realize you've never seen him until you see him in New York. Whoa. Yeah. Or it's so many like old movie references I originally got from like Looney Tunes thing.

You know, like before I ever saw Casablanca, I knew so much about it because Bugs Bugs Bugs you quoted. Yeah. You know, like that kind of thing. Frankly my dear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. It's Josh Brolin. Josh Brolin. Yeah. Really? Yeah. That son of a gun.

Yeah. We would have won had we've gotten Josh Brolin. Not right. Yeah. And this is the answer. I know it. I guess because we kind of both knew a lot of them. Sure.

She knew a couple that I wouldn't have gotten. But the one that I had that I stood by and it was insistent about was finishing a commercial jingle slogan. Okay. And it was make it last a little longer, hold tight a little longer. What was the brand? No idea. It's Big Red.

Big Red. The gum. Yeah. Okay. I can't feel like that because in your mind Big Red, it seems like it's a cinnamon gum or something. Yeah. You wouldn't want to hold tight.

No. I mean, if I were going to go with a gum, I would have gone with juicy fruit. That would have been the one that would have tracked for me or like winter mint or whatever the double double mint. Sure. No, but the double mint one was the twins. The winter. Yeah.

That makes sense. Yeah. So Big Red. I remembered their jingle. And I felt proud. That's good. What's your brand spot? My brand spot is I had to do it.

I downloaded Legend of Zelda. Whoa. Played a couple hours. What happened to the Jedi's? I won. I beat it. Oh, wow. Okay.

It's a fairly short narrative. It's one of those games that you like play over and over and over again. The main story narrative is only such and such length of time. Really satisfying narrative. Okay. Really, really enjoyable. I liked it a lot. Good Jedi story.

But I mean, you know, you go into, here's the, we need standardized button controls. Yeah. I can't go back and forth. It's hard. It drives me insane. You get used to it if you go back and forth a little bit more. But it is, it is weird because the, like X and the X is like the primary button on PlayStation kind of and then a is primary.

It's a different position on the Nintendo controller. One thing that I would tell you is there is an option to invert the jump button. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the second thing I figured out how to do. Yeah. I played maybe 45 seconds before I was like, this doesn't feel right.

Can't handle it. Yeah. Can't handle jumping with the top button. No. It should be against the law. No. Cause I'm going to jump too much. I can't be up there.

I feel, I don't know why I remember we should have standardized parts for just that. Like that would make so much sense. Everybody can have their games and do all that stuff, but just make it easy on us for the controls. Y'all have the same number of a lot of games. A lot of games do allow you to sort of remap controller buttons. That's true. Not, not, not all of them.

No. So how are you enjoying it so far? Fantastic. It's a lot of fun. It's so I don't, I don't know if I've played any of the story, but just combining stuff into terrible machinery has been an endless source of joy for me. Yeah. And what's fun is along the way, as you play the actual story, you can continue to do that.

Yeah. So you, like by the point that you're at, I'm going to guess that there are machine pieces. Like you haven't even counted. No, not even close. Cause there are a couple that I just ran into for the first time. And I was like, whoa, I genuinely, I genuinely have not made it out of the tutorial area yet.

Okay. So yeah, you haven't encountered a bunch of stuff. Nope. Nope. No. I, I, there was one simple thing where you put the hook next to the board and I was like, yeah, anybody can do that. So I made like a four side.

Yeah. I had to do it. It was a little like a little bit of a copy. Like I like copy and it didn't work. Like the whole thing is a mess. You know, that's the joy of discovery right there. Fantastic. Yeah.

I had a, a moment that was a little dumb. Um, so a little like pretty early into the game. You'll end up like, I got it. So you find the main camp where like a bunch of the, the Hylian characters are. And you have a little, I have opportunities for side quests or whatever. Of course. I did just to wander around. I played hours and I didn't, I realized like,

wait, people keep mentioning a camera. I'm supposed to have a camera. I don't have a camera. And so I was like, I bet if I go back to the main camp, one of those missions was a camera. Oh, totally. And so I go back, I talk to the person who gives you the camera.

And part of that quest involves going underground. So you know how there's a whole sky area? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a whole underground area too. Sure, of course, why not? And I had no idea for the first 10 hours that I was playing the game, that there's like a third world within the world.

Oh, boy. It was nuts. It was just like, I kind of sat back and I was like, well. Yeah, I mean. The only thing it's missing really, in terms of being a completely overwhelming game, is multiple characters that you can play as. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

If there were a bunch of playable characters, then it was like, I don't know what to do. I can't handle this. No, I was never able to get into Minecraft because I would get two into Minecraft in that kind of, do you know what I'm saying? Like, once I started with this, I haven't left the tutorial area

because I've literally just been playing with logs and just combining them into different, you know, it's that kind of like, I can't focus until I've created something so weirdly made of logs. The end of sentence, you know? It's just, I just have to. The thing that ruins like Minecraft for me

is the people who have like, got it down to like a science, you know? Yeah. That kind of aspect of it makes it, so like, what am I going to build? Yeah. Because people have made like computers within the game. Yeah, that one's tough.

It's like, I don't know what to do. I think all I'm going to do is make sculptures of logs. That's my way of playing tears in the kingdom. Yeah. I will make several modern art pieces. That's an achievement in and of itself. I think so. So Jordan, today.

Yes. We're going to be talking about some present day business. Ooh. An episode to go over. All right. That actually is sort of a two pronged episode. Okay. Two prongs.

We're flanking. One prong over here. One prong over here. I don't know if we're flanking anything, but there's two things. All right. And we'll get down to business on those two things. But before we do, let's say hello to some new wongs.

Oh, that's a great idea. So first, a globalist in a hot tub. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wong. I'm a policy wong. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, moist oyster.

Thank you so much. You're now a policy wong. I'm a policy wong. Thank you very much. Yeah, this one may be a little bit late. I hope I didn't ruin anything with this, but congratulations, Joey and Sush. Consider this my save for the day.

Thank you so much. You're now a policy wong. I'm a policy wong. Thank you very much. I assume we will be congratulating them on their third born or something at that point. Hey, hope that you did not. I hope you also send an RSVP.

Yes. And CEO of Diamond Gusset Jeans Co. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wong. I'm a policy wong. Thank you very much. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. Sue, thank you so much too.

Brandon says Emily is a policy wong, and I love her. The eye there being Brandon, not me. Although, Emily, I'm sure you're wonderful. You're all now a technocrat. I'm a policy wong. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much.

And as I was going through, you know, getting names, particularly it was driven home by this Save the Date one. Yeah. I realized that, like, inboxes, like, are just unusable. And, like, that was six months behind. Yeah. So if you would like a shout out, send a message to knowledgefightatgmail.com.

Please do. Jordan monitors that email address. Yep. That's the only thing I can say at this point. That's the one. Yes. Send it to that email address. I will catch it.

Uh-huh. Yes. This is Jordan's not main job, but, like, this is a mission. This is high up on the fucking list, that's for sure. Right. So yeah, well, six months behind. Yes, thank you so much. Yes.

It's hard. Yeah, this is why people have ads with, like, the same person every time. They're like, oh, they do this thing. Then you don't give a shit, you know? Sure. Whenever you back up on people, you're like, this feels miserable.

Yeah. And it should be a joyous thing. I'm trying. It is a joyous thing. All right. It's bittersweet. Joey and Sush got married. Yay!

This should be a day for celebration. And no, instead, I feel bad. Oh, such as that way. Oh, also, I forgot. Joey and Sush, with the Save the Date, this person wants chicken. Good call. So, Jordan, like I said, there's two prongs to this.

And so I'm going to let you choose A or B. And that will determine what we do first. OK. Oh, man, now I'm getting into a whole Princess Bride scenario where I'm like, he wants me to choose B because he thinks that I'll obviously choose B. So I'll choose A. But he knows me. He knows that I'm going to distrust his A choice.

All right, fine. Here, how about this? OK. Let's go with polka dot or stripes. Oh, that's a good one. So it doesn't have an inherent order. Yeah, it's an inherent order. That's a good call.

I'm going to have to go with stripes. OK, stripes. Yes. So here. Third favorite Bill Murray movie. So that actually works out quite well because that means that we're going to go in a chronological order of the day.

So we're talking about May 15th here today. And the two things that happen are Alex hosted Stephen Crowder's show. OK, well, don't stop that. That's the first thing. How dare he? And then Alex had his show from Stephen Crowder's studio. All right.

So he just lives at Stephen Crowder's place now? I think he's trying to take him over. I mean, it feels like he's slowly just kind of like, hey. I don't know about slow. I'm waiting for him to start calling himself Alex Crowder. Yeah, there's a real interesting thing that is going on clearly in that both of them are people who have like fraught intimate relationships.

Let's say Stephen Crowder is in the middle of this divorce. And there's a lot of things coming out about the way he treated his wife. Alex is certainly somebody who his ex-wife has spoken quite a bit about his abusive habits. Naturally. So the two of them kind of have that in common. They're both shitheads that think they're funny.

Both made a lot of enemies recently. True. They're both isolated even within the conservative world to some degree. There are only somewhat fringe figures who really want to associate with either of them. They were in a bigger lake, and then they both got kicked to the same smaller pond.

Yeah, they have emotional similarities, and then also just sort of concrete business similarities. And they're both in Texas. And so the things that bind them appear to be making a more important connection. And so that's fun. It's not fun. It's pretty bad.

No, I mean, I suppose two awful asshole-ish monsters developing a misery-based bond is not good for the rest of the world ever. No, no. But what is interesting, and I think we'll play out in ways that I'm not entirely sure how they're going, I can't really predict, is there's going to be a power struggle.

They're both intensely, for lack of a better word, alpha. They are people with massive egos. I would guess that the two of them can't coexist, really. It'd be hard to imagine. Yeah. They live too close. Texas ain't big enough for the both of us. They're going to end up in a duel.

Why not? They seem like the people who should be dueling in 2023. Crowder hasn't gone on his desk. Yeah, absolutely. Alex had a fucking long gone on his desk. They have a lot in common. These are dueling people. So we're going to start here with Alex hosting Steven

Crowder's show. And so the setup of Steven Crowder's show is there's a co-host who I don't know his name. I think his name is Gerald. He's the CEO of Crowder's business. And he's also the co-host. There used to be another co-host who is supposedly the funny guy.

But he left recently and has been shit talking Crowder quite a bit about how one of the things he said was that Crowder had a button that would tell him to stop talking because he was talking too much. Oh my god. The funny guy was talking too much. Wow. Wow.

Yeah. You had like a real moment of like if only. No. I directly tell you, Mike down, if I don't want you to talk over a clip or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have any. You have the respect.

Yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah. All right, just mute your mic. Give me a shock collar. I got the board. Give me a shock collar. Come on. That would even be better because that would be a bit.

That would be funny. This is just a private thing that is kind of insulting. It's a real dick move. So that guy's not there anymore. He's gone. And so it's really just the two of them and then some third figure who's chiming in. But there's people laughing.

And I think that that dynamic isn't healthy for Alex. No. Because they laugh at just about anything. Right. And so Alex really thinks he's funny. Oh no. That's not good. Oh no.

So here's where we start. Well, this is surreal. I am sitting here. Human broadcast in the world. It's just exploding. It's already exploded years ago, but it's just taking over Rumble, YouTube, everywhere else. Steven Crowder's amazing morning show.

And I am here with my training wheels on. I never get butterflies, which is a very good thing. Decades as I get butterflies. I don't get butterflies live on ABC News. But I've got them now. But Gerald, the CEO, is there to hold my hand? We've got a big live transmission lined up for you here today.

So yeah, I don't know when Alex has been live on ABC, certainly not lately. No. You might have noticed that jazz? Yeah, I did notice that. Elevator music? Did he swear? No.

Oh. So they have a show on YouTube. And they have been on YouTube for a long time. Steven Crowder has millions of followers on YouTube. OK. And now, after he did that unsuccessful stunt with the Daily Wire, he has gotten a large contract with Rumble. And so what they do is originally they

had the beginning of their show on YouTube, like first hour or something, and then the rest behind a paywall. Now, since then, they've had the bit on YouTube and then the rest behind a paywall. But on YouTube, they constantly cut to that elevator music. And it implies that something was censored, or like this is too dangerous for YouTube,

you got to go watch it on Rumble. They're intentionally trying to drive people away from their YouTube platform over to Rumble. It's a disingenuous sort of, hey, we're too censored. You can't even watch the same here. This is Alex saying hello and welcome to the show. It's painful. OK.

They're trying to sink the ship of YouTube in order to make people go to Rumble. Right, right, right, right, right. Gotcha. It's pathetic. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's a reasonable, I would say this. If you just got a contract with Rumble, you can't overtly be like, yeah, YouTube

is our main source of money, you know? But it's even not, because I think they're demonetized and have been on YouTube. Well, then burn it. Because Steven Crowder's, you know, I think part of it was him gay bashing that guy. That sounds right. Vox, Carlos Mazza.

Any number of reasons would be enough. There's a number of things that he's done that have been against TOS, for sure. That makes sense. So yeah, that makes this really difficult to listen to. But I decided I want to listen to the YouTube version. Take that Rumble, bunch of assholes, fuck you. I'm literally not going to give him money for this shit.

That's what he wants me to do. Yeah, I'm going to YouTube. Yeah, yeah. So we get some headlines from the co-host. And, you know, you get a little bit of the flavor. Megan Kelly actually goes to war with Charlize Theron. I didn't realize she was still relevant. Not her, not Megan Kelly.

Of course she is. But Charlize, that's one. And then also, I don't know, Alex, if you heard this, but the Twitter's got a new CEO. And that's right, I've got her name right here. It's Linda Macaroni. Macarena. Macarena, do the Macarena?

Macarena, I don't know. No! There's a WF connection there that I'm sure Alex is going to love to tell you. This is going to be a fun show today, by the way. So fun. Wow. Yes.

I mean, Charlize Theron is in the Fast and Furious movies. I don't understand. What are you talking about? Some of the highest grossing films of the last few years. Theron is infinitely more relevant to the culture than Megan Kelly ever will be. Yeah. Right?

She said that she would fuck up people who were trying to mess with drag queens. And so, Megan Kelly got mad about that and was like, why don't you fight me? Yeah, I guess. Man, I really think people would be surprised to see how quickly Charlize Theron could probably kick your ass. She'd probably throw hands.

Yeah, I think she could. Yeah, so you get this Macaroni joke. I mean, this is the vibe here. This is a dumb show. Yeah, I'm really so I'm getting the flavor that Alex is trying to tailor himself for this show. Yeah, I think so. He's not doing the Alex Jones show.

No. He's allowing himself to be subsumed by this sophomore or a terrible, I guess, fun show? There is a level of bending the knee. Right. That Alex is doing, for sure. For the time being. Yes.

Yes. If you think that that's something that Alex can maintain. Yeah, I was going to say. You are mistaken. Very short period of time. You wonder why the people that Alex hangs out with, like in terms of work folks, are people like Owen Troyer and Harrison Smith?

It's because they're both dorks who are going nowhere. Like he could not have coexisted with someone like Paul Joseph Watson. If he wasn't like someone who clearly doesn't have that much of a weird ego about himself and he lived in the UK. Well, that's why that was my thought. Paul was super successful.

Right. But also, it was kind of like a ah. He's in the UK. Yeah. Alex would have kicked his ass and fired him if he was in the US, for sure. That was what I was thinking whenever it was like Stephen Crowder doesn't live outside of the United States.

If he did, this would be possible. They can't coexist if they live this close to each other. Yeah, yeah, definitely. They'll just butt up against each other and turn into Charlize Theron and making Kelly part two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they also, so there's another headline, I guess, or video that they want to play.

And so it's about a guy who, I guess, wears diapers. And this is just ridiculous. And listen to what the guy is saying behind their mocking. Because I think that that's important and something that they're missing the point about. Gotcha. All right, so Alex, I'm going to take us into the first little video that we're going to look at here.

I really want to get your thoughts. And I don't think you've even seen this. He didn't see this one yet. This works really well. This is the state of our country, unfortunately. So here is a grown man who I'll let you decide what he identifies as. Being an adult baby is kind of a complicated subject.

I got into it for two reasons. The first was because I started wetting the bed when I was 13. And the diapers were a way to keep it dry. But I also got into it around the same time as the war as a way to avoid child abuse that was going on. For me with the diapers, it just kind of became that safe-ness. And it's not sexual. It's all about just the safe-ness of being a child again.

You know, Gerald, listen, you guys act nice, but you just snuck attack me with this. You just showed that's actually me before I lost a couple pounds. I mean, they're having some good joke fun and what have you. But I don't understand how you could hear that and not think, like, OK, this is a guy who's describing a way that he coped with being a survivor of childhood abuse. And what's funny about this?

I don't know how you don't hear that and go and just empathize and be like, yeah, this is your trauma response. Knowing nothing else about this person, just what they have presented here. It's like, OK, he's not hurting anybody with this. It's something that he clearly is in touch with the aspect of himself that is dealing with this trauma. And, you know, what's the problem?

Why you got to mock this guy? This seems so cruel. Yeah, I just don't. It is it is so much like I I've seen this play out over and over and over and over again with with any kind of like local news as we found a lifestyle that's different from what is considered societally normal. And then these assholes pick it up.

Like I remember the first time I saw a local news ass story about furries like people are dressing up and everybody laughing like, oh, that's so stupid. Like, what are we doing here? Who cares? Let them I mean, listen to the person, accept their trauma, their way of coping with it, that's that's part of it. That's even what elevates the meanness of the response

even further. It's not just somebody who's like, I think it's fun. That's what I'm saying. Dress up like this or whatever. There is an articulation of like their path through this, that there was a functional reason in terms of wetting the bed and then a dealing with this trauma that he had experienced. There is such a like for people who pretend to care so much

about children, you know, victimization of children. Like this is so ridiculously telling. They're telling on themselves. Yeah, absolutely. Don't give a shit at all about this stuff. They don't give a fuck about the pain. They don't give a fuck about the people. Nope.

They just want to use the emotions around that pain in order to direct hatred towards the people that they want hatred directed towards. Generally speaking, the people who have experienced the pain that they're exploiting. Sometimes. Yep. So Alex is really thrilled with the way

that they have succeeded in getting people to rumble. You guys are the first kind of like, you know, they had that big race with railroads going to the Pacific. You guys are the first or, you know, the race to to flight or the race for the atomic bomb. You guys are the first to actually do it, which means the viewers and listeners are the first by going to rumble and by going to mud club.

This is revolutionary. This is not this is not just entertainment or fun or promoting freedom. This is happening right now. This is the bellwether example. That's why you've seen all the attacks the media against Steven and his family and the crew, which is all complete crap. I can tell you is because they're scared.

And so that's another sign that we're in the right direction. I'm just honored to be here. So everybody should go to mud club. Hey, come and subscribe. Everybody should go to rumble and tell everybody, you know, go to rumble right now and watch us on rumble. Absolutely.

You have to watch on rumble because we won't be on YouTube for very long, but we want to see that thing go down. Like I want to take there. There is going to be a celebration here when that rumble number is way up here and that YouTube number is literally zero. There's nothing revolutionary about being a popular person who goes to a different platform because you're not

welcome anywhere else. And there's nothing revolutionary about his mud club nonsense. It's just a subscriber service. Like the blaze has a lot of their shit behind a paywall. Like people do this. You're not reinventing the wheel here. I know when I'm getting a late night pitch from somebody,

we're going to have to put a clock on this. These knives are so good. And I'll tell you what, they're too sharp. And that's why they don't sell them in stores. And you need sharp knives. But what Alex is pitching is how proud he is of them. Oh, yeah. I'm on board.

But the thing is, the success of getting people to rumble, I do think a large part of it is because they have made this unwatchable. But we wanted to do something bigger than just go and do a show somewhere. We wanted to change the landscape of America. And that's what Stephen was saying months ago about why do conservatives create new systems that

act just like the establishment? It needs to be wild, wild west. Yeah, we don't want to. Why, people, that's not divisive at all. Stand up against the poison of white supremacists I did in my inaugural address. Is the implication there that all that time Alex was saying something that's not allowed on YouTube?

I don't know. But this is the first time I've enjoyed Stephen Crowder's show. I'll tell you that right now. This is absurd. If you're trying to watch this on YouTube, it's so funny. Because I can't stress enough that the presentation is, these things are here because YouTube won't let us talk about the things

that we want to talk about. Do you still see them moving their mouths? You get a cut to, let's all go to the lobby. That's great. That makes this show finally funny. Why? Because there's a real, I mean, one, because they're doing it for the wrong reason,

which is hilarious. But it's a self-serving reason. Totally. The reason is sort of brand, it's branding based. Right, right. It's pointless and stupid, which makes it funny. So what you see on the screen is a shot of sort of blurry Stephen Crowder's neon in the background,

a little fire and a mug that says louder with Crowder. And it says, this show is not safe for YouTube. We're still live on Rumble. Go there now. Oh, my god. Yeah, so the implication is almost that they've had to hit the button. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, the five second red button. Yeah, yeah. Uh-oh, Janet Jackson all over again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so dumb. It is, but they're not funny. They're not interesting. They're not sharing anything.

So it's almost an avant-garde, like a French play. This is waiting for Godot. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I don't remember where it is, and I think it's maybe gone now. But like, oh, yeah, here it is. OK, so in the YouTube comments, I'm laughing at the fact that Alex was censored within three seconds.

I'm going over to Rumble. Oh, my god. Plant, plant. Well, even if it's not. If it is, I hope it's a plant. I hope it's a plant, because if someone can't see what they're doing. You got hoodwinked, boy.

It's unlistenable. Yeah. Just last week, the attorney general came out with a new rule saying, no crime statistics can be used by the FBI. Well, how do you put agents in areas that you don't know where the crime is? If you're fishing, you've got sonar to see where the fish are.

So they're saying, oh, well, we're not even going to look at where crime is at. I mean, you've got to change up the music. I know you don't. You're just on hold. I would have gone with some Stan Getz. No, they don't want to pay anything. It's stock elevator music.

So one thing that you can really tell is that it seems like Alex may be also having a little apple juice. He's having a good time. No, drinking. Yes. Maybe drinking a little. This is before his show.

Just double checking. Why, I'm going to have me some whiskey. Oh, boy. Oh, gosh. This is actually happening. That's why you needed the extension for your headset. I'm going to play the girl from Ipanema next. What is happening?

Where are you? Now, hold on. Hi, my name is Alex Jones. My name's Joe 77. My boy's big wife. I'm going to stop. Boo. No, no, no, you're fine.

I'm in bed. You said something that I thought was interesting, right? So the FBI is not allowed to use statistics anymore. By the way, make a line on that. Somebody bring a Sharpie in. We're making a line so Alex can track his consumption. Folks, everybody knows I'm fake. This is not real whiskey.

This is sugar water with a little. It's real. It's real. No, it's fake. I never drink. Can we get the label to 20? Yeah. Got to gas that label.

Can't have brand names. I don't like. So yeah, he's a big bottle of wild turkey. Yeah, I don't like feeling bad for the for the adult monster who turned into the kid who eats worms for people's approval. Because that's the vibe I'm getting from this little. Oh, no, no, do it. Do it, man.

No, no, do it, do it, do it. Do it. I don't know. I don't know if I want to. No, do it. You're going to love it. All right, I want to be friends. OK.

I think that you're underestimating how much Alex wants to eat worms. That's fair. That's a fair point. That is a fair point. I think he maybe will go through some difficulties if he doesn't eat worms early enough in the day. Oh, I'm going to eat somebody got to do worms.

Yeah, it totally doesn't drink. All right, no, no, no. So I just thought this this clip was stupid. It's time for spinach, guys. This is not the ice cream hour, where are we telling you like I'm strong to the finish because I eat the spinach. So real quick, the co-host is talking about how like,

you know, all the things that the left want, it's all like, oh, ice cream, you know, but sometimes you need some good hard spinach, some disappointing stuff. Hey, what are you going to do? Can't argue with that. Sure. I'm Stephen Crowder, the sailor man.

Do you try to work that in? Well, look, somebody else who ate their spinach, Megan Kelly came to play in this next story with Charlize Theron. By the way, I'm dating Megan Kelly. Are you really? Yeah. Swing.

Boo. Joke, folks. I don't know that that's 100% true, Alex. I don't think I don't think that's satire. She's a babe. Joke alert. Do we have to do that with you? We do.

You have a dry sense of humor, Alex. I love it. Look, I think he has a wet sense of humor in that he's drunk. Yeah. He's a drunk man. Even if he's not drunk, you kind of got to be drunk to think this shit's funny. Yikes.

Yeah. You better. Opposite of wet dry. I mean, I don't think I could listen to this in a dry county. I'll say that right now. Now, I'm dating Megan Kelly. He's been a joke that he's been telling at least for the last five years.

I was going to say, yeah, it's been a long time. Well, the secret of 2017 had to do with Megan Kelly. And that was around when she came and did that interview with him. Yeah. And then he had all the secret tapes of that he was going to release. He didn't because his sister called him and disrupted

the recording. I mean, what are you going to do? His sister called him. But then he just still pretended that he had all those tapes for quite a while. For quite some time. And then the truth came out. Yeah.

Oh, boy. And then he started doing that joke. And I guess it's still funny. I mean, apparently, apparently, was any of your 80s trivia tonight about Michael Myers' early career and how Wayne's world was going to last forever. Oh, I thought you meant Michael Myers, the murderer. No.

His early murders. No. No. So look, they just censor a lot. Uh-huh. I had a crew member go to two CVSs, one of them in Austin Hazard, and we're going to be showing that later today. Unbelievable.

So I saw the video and I was like, wait a minute. I saw it, but I was busy and had to go. And I was like, why are? It was so surreal. Like, there's a bunch of sex toys, vibrators, dildos, and it's a kid's aisle. What did he say in that stretch of time that was censored, but they kept vibrators and dildos in?

Yeah, I mean, it was censored for, like, half a second. Right, right. No, that's absurd. Now they're just fucking with you. I almost wonder, because I don't watch enough of his dumb show, so I almost wonder if that in and of itself is a joke. They constantly censor. That they censor stuff that doesn't need to be censored

in a way that I get maybe. I wonder if it is, but at least that YouTube commenter certainly didn't feel so. And the way it's presented definitely is the implication is that it's not a joke. And it is specifically Alex, right? No? I think they do that, but maybe less, maybe not

as frequently on other shows. I've seen a couple episodes of Crowder, but definitely the last one that I watched did not have this much. Right, right, right, right. And I think that might be just like a maybe a thing, because, OK, we got Alex here, of course, they're going to censor.

Right, right, right. But if other, if every episode is like this, then it is just a trying to tank the shit and go to rumble. Yeah, they're just fucking with people. Well, I mean, what would you do if you wanted to try and force migrate your audience? Yeah. Like, a lot of people would rather watch shit on YouTube,

because they're used to it, and it's a better platform in general. Yeah, and you can't. There's more functionality to it. And you can't just stop broadcasting on YouTube without losing all of the people who aren't going to make that second click. You have to get them watching the show,

repeat that you have to leave YouTube over and over and over. And make the experience of watching it on YouTube unpleasant. Exactly. And then hopefully you'll get some migration along that line. Apparently they have a psychologist online. I mean, it's pretty simple, I guess. So yeah, they have a mentality, I guess, louder with Crowder.

Sure. As expressed by the co-host slash CEO. And that is that they hold people's feet to the fire, right? So Elon Musk. In what sense? So Elon Musk doing great things for free speech. And how so? How so?

But he also is hiring somebody who's connected to the World Economic Forum to be the CEO of Twitter. So then you? Boo. But he does good things, but also he does bad things. And they are not going to fall into the trap of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Yes. Yes, that is how hero worship works. No, no, no. There are no heroes. Oh, no, that sounds right. Donald Trump said to Mike Pence at the meeting, well, Mike, I think we should take the guns first, and then we'll figure out the mental health issue later.

We're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't take guns first. Guns first is not the way that you handle second amendment issues. And we held Trump's feet to the fire. When he came out and basically said that he was laughing at some of the people who lost in the midterms, we were like,

that doesn't seem like that's the most helpful thing. No, that's the thing. Trump is kind of Ashburg-ish. I think Trump is autistic. And people say, well, he's super smart. He's super smart. Yeah, he's super smart in ways. I think he means well for us.

But he's like, well, just take the mentally ill guns. It's simple. Oh, right, exactly. But you can't, because they'll define everybody's mentally ill. Right, exactly. And so we hold his feet to the fire, just like we're going to hold Elon's. Exactly.

When Musk does good, we're going to say good job. When he does bad, we're going to cry foul. Nobody's a messiah. There is no messiah figure that we should be looking for on the right. We should never hope for that person, because they don't exist. And if they do exist, they're going

to exist as a messiah for a little while. And then the next guy, or maybe the next year, for that same guy is going to be bad. So that's never how we operate. Smash cut to Alex. I mean, like doing all kinds of hero shit about Trump. I have listened to these people deify a sitting asshole for so long.

Quite a bit. And the other thing, too, is that I was listening to that. I was thinking, like, you don't do this. But I think that if you did, that's a good way to approach these public figures, recognizing that people aren't all good or all bad. And they're like, yeah, there are criticizable acts even among people that you like.

And there are laudable acts among people you hate. That's fine. Why don't you do that with anybody on the left? Everybody on the left is just all evil. Yeah, they're all evil. There's never something that AOC does, that they're like, you know what? We're going to hold her feet to the fire when she does bad.

But also, we can't help but say this is a good thing. Has Soros ever done anything that was commendable? No. Never. They are all evil when they're on the other side. Well, they're not people. They're demons. Right.

But that's not the way that this branding goes. No, no, no, no. Like, this, we look at things, nuance. There's good and bad. There's no messiah coming on the right. OK, fine. There's no anti-Christ on the left either, ding dong. No, no, no.

Right. End of sentence. It doesn't, yeah. I mean, until you don't hold anybody's feet to the fire unless there are consequences for the things that you say are bad. I mean, consequences are not, hey, you did that bad. But anything else that you do and including this,

I'm going to let pass without anything other than saying a tut, tut. Right. And when you hold feet to the fire, there should be a fire instead of an imaginary fire. You need a fire there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's not.

So there is this subservience in Alex a little bit. And that is going along with the way that the co-host wants to run the show and present the topics. And Alex is kind of not like a second wheel, but he's, you know, he's, he's along for it. But it's his training, you know, it's his first time on the job.

Yeah, absolutely. He's shadowing. And so I didn't think that was too weird. But this blew my mind. All right. Alex did a, like, a pre-prepared bit. Yeah, look at, look at all those women and children. That seemed like a room full of military-aged males to me.

Yes. Let's, let's talk to one of our correspondents on the border right now. Absolutely. All right. We've got Miguel Maline. Thanks for taking some time, Miguel. Can you give us some insight on what it's like

at the border right now? Habla español. No, no, no. I don't speak Spanish. I mean, I know a little Braverian enough to get around town at least. But that's besides the point, though I would really like to know

what it's like down there right now. Habla español. No, I told you I don't speak Spanish. Solamente English. Habla español. For the love of God, I said I don't speak. How the hell did you get here? Anyways, that's what I really like to know.

How the hell did you get through to the producer and to the pre-interview screening and jump through all the hoops to get on here? How? Tell me. I really like to know now. Habla español. Yeah, I mean, come on.

What the fuck? Wow. Oh, excuse me, guys. Wow. Blah. That one minute pre-scripted bit. Jesus. They recorded in advance is more preparation

than Alex does for his own show. Yeah, 100%. That's a shocking level of work they got out of him. That is a full minute. A full minute where he had to read lines. Yes. He couldn't. Dude, no, no.

That delivery was so organic. Oh, so organic. Those were his words. You know, sometimes when a writer gives you something, you have to be like, hey, listen, I got to make this mine. I think your words are good, but I got to add my spin on it. Alex was true to the page. Wow.

Wowzers. If I were maybe the producer who was doing this bit, I might be like, Alex, let's try one more time. I mean, a little more natural. Anything. You're getting out. The person on the phone who just says, Habla español is running circles around you

in terms of acting. Yeah. Get it together, man. Yeah, I was, honestly, the thing that surprised me the most was that Alex wasn't also providing a very racist accent. Yeah. I was shocked. I was waiting for fentanyl to come out.

I was shocked. It wouldn't be too surprising. No, that's what blew me away. I guess I wasn't thinking about that, because I was too surprised that he did something. Yeah. Like that, I can't. Wow.

I mean, that's degrading. There's just so many reasons that that bit doesn't work that are pure and simple, just like writing challenges that are very easy to punch up. Like if you've got, if you've going to have the pause on the final Habla Espanol, you don't hear Habla Espanol. That's when he comes with Parle Vue Française.

Or exactly, absolutely. He comes with the twist. You've got a zag whenever people think you're going to zig. And they just kept going with the same bit. The bit was, I mean, ostensibly, the bit that they presented is Alex getting angry. That is not a bit. No, it's kind of exactly what would happen, probably.

Exactly. But also, if this were, if you wanted to make this more of a real bit, you would have the person say something other than Habla Espanol. Because basically, after the first time he says it, you get the answer that person doesn't speak Spanish. So maybe you'd say something else in Spanish. Sure.

You know, it's very inorganic. And then Alex's line deliveries were wouldn't. Brutal, brutal. Yeah. But he did it. For a guy famous for yelling, doesn't know how to get his way to that spirit in the page. But he was one of the most sought after voice actors

until Obama ruined his career. Oh, man. Not just that, but Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, he was going to be Star-Lord. He was going to be Star-Lord with those kind of line breeze. I can imagine. I want to watch the audition tape now. That's what I want more than anything else.

Come over here, rocket raccoon. Drax, it's weird you say obvious things. Are you Groot? I can't pronounce Gamera. Something or other about Yondu. See, that's a five joke bit. That's the way it works. So Alex has some video that he's brought along also

for them to enjoy. And I think this one's cheating. And so this is actually one of our security guys, is an army veteran, great patriot. And he was in the Texas National Guard after he did his service in Iraq and Afghanistan. So the full clips had banned that video. But one of our reporters also caught

a veteran confronting Texas National Guardsmen for ignoring Governor Abbott. We'll play the clip, and I'll break down why this is so important. Your employee didn't capture a veteran confronting them. One of your security guards confronting the Border Patrol. You're describing the security guard, and then just pretending it's a veteran who's confronted.

It's ridiculous. Like he wouldn't have been there if he weren't the security guard. Yeah, exactly. One of our employees confronts a guy I told to confront Border Patrol. Who happens to be a veteran. Yes.

And might have been Blackwater. The one that I chose. Might have been a Blackwater veteran. Abby and listen, I chose a guy who committed war crimes because that's what war hero is. So yeah, actually, I'm not sure. I know that at least some of his security was Blackwater, but I'm not sure if this specific one was.

So I don't want to make too broad a statement. Who cares? So one of the things that I've noticed when I've watched Stephen Cratter before is this obsession with saying that everything is documented. All of the stuff that he talks about, they've got all the sources, everything is documented. And then they just let Alex just make shit up.

Trump's grand total for border counters was only 2.4 million. Over four years, right? And just over two years into his presidency, five million. And remember, the majority are never even encountered. No, so multiply that number by what? Five? Of 25 million.

Border Patrol told us it's worse. We were told by senior people, they said last year, 8 million came across Texas alone. Dang. 8 million. Crazy. That's insane. So many.

By the numbers they're giving us right now, if it's about, I don't know, a 1.4, 1.5 million. Oh, so completely different numbers than what Alex just made up. By the way, strike me out of my mind. I have been in meetings with, there's only one layer under my orcas. So I've been in Zoom meetings with federal officials

you see on TV, but off record. And like FBI and federal marshals, and they're like, here's the documents, and here's our court documents, and no one will pick it up. We gave it to Fox, we've come to you now, son. That's embarrassing. Like you can't allow Alex to just make up multipliers to add to things, and then you just

go along with it. If those are your instincts in studio, then I don't know if I trust how interested in documentation you are. This is trash, trash work. Yeah, there's 5 million in two years. Well, they're obviously lying about that. You've got to multiply that by a factor of five.

And that puts you at 25 million. And 25 million seems low. That's only 1%. That's only 10% of the current population. You've got to consider that's probably only a third. You've got to multiply that by 75 million. Yeah, absolutely. I would say at this point, most of the country is illegal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no other conclusion to come to. Well, actually, we're going to get to some thoughts about that later a little bit that I had, that maybe we are all illegal. What? If anybody is illegal, then maybe almost everybody is. Yeah, no, obviously.

So I kind of was wrestling with that a little bit for reasons that will become clear once we get to segment polka dot. Oh, no. Oh, god. So we have one last clip here of Steven's show. And this is Alex telling a version of his story where he went to the border and got mad at somebody who

was trying to drive away from a Catholic charity. Do you remember that when he put his hands on the car? Yeah, I recall that. Seabelt snitch. Yep, yep, yep. And so here's the version of Alex. Alex tells all the show. And it's just this story has grown.

Is it not about Seabelt? We were there like two years ago. And they're loading like four or five kids in a hatchback of a car. And there's nobody even with them, not their moms. And there's a taxi driver. We're talking like four, five, six, seven year old kids. And I go over and I go, that's illegal having them in the car.

So I stopped the car. The police come. He doesn't have a seatbelt. You can't get a van. You can't just put them in the hatchback. He doesn't have a seatbelt. And then a dude comes out. A dude comes out of the migrant center

of this big, tall, white, crazy looking dude who I'd catch for really bad stuff in a movie. And he goes, I'm here to teach them where the Lord, I'm here to get the little girls. I'm sorry. And we had undercover cop inside there. I'm sorry. And she came out and said, no, the dudes

in there being promised that tonight he's going to load six kids. This is grown. And now is a story out of season one of True Detective or something. Yeah, that's fucking CSI. Jesus Christ. Uh, I'm going to teach him the way of the Lord.

I really, I'm really going to go back and try and put myself in the headspace if I recall correctly. I don't have a seatbelt. He was mad that they were not wearing seatbelts because he could not say that anything else was happening conclusively. It was just that he could say concretely, sir, there is no seatbelt on this person.

That it was the most specific infraction I remember there being. Yeah, this is a little bit like if your grandpa caught like a medium sized trout or is a solid trout. It's enjoyable. Everybody had some to eat. I caught a shark. And then two years later was like, uh, yeah.

So I made love to a mermaid. And she gave me a bounty of 7,000 foot long feet. Yeah, long feet. Foot long feet. OK. So, uh, yeah, I think you get a flavor of what Alex on Steven Crowder is like. Yeah, I have I have a few.

Here's here's the questions that I had whenever it was like, why is he doing this? Uh-huh. And I'm I'm so I've got first equipment. Is he really just if he's broadcasting his show from Steven Crowder's shit, it sounds better than what he's doing with his place. Well, no, I mean, probably is more of a competent team.

But the Alex only does his own show for the first two hours. And then Owen does the third hour. Right. So like it's the equipment's still fine. No, I mean, just just audio quality. Like when we listen to I mean, when we listen to to stripes, I suspect it will be slightly I don't remember which is which. Yeah, I mean, I think it's polka dot.

But yeah, I think the audio is better. Maybe if it is. I don't think it's that big of a deciding factor. Fair and you have to consider that a lot of the audio that we end up using is through the GCN feed. Right. So some of that may be just the way the sound goes out to radio stations, right?

As opposed to the sound on Alex's own website. That might be better. That's fair. Because it's direct. Right. I didn't consider that. The next thought I have money he can hide. Is there some?

Is there some backwards ass deal? Yes. Where he can get something that is not on the books that is fucking? Well, yeah, I mean, there would be a it would be outside of infowars. Yeah. If he were to have a show on Steven Crowder's network

or something like that, because in the Mug Club, they have like a Nick DiPallo has a show or something. And like so like there is there is how far the mighty have fallen mighty. There is a conceivable world where you could see Alex having a show on Crowder in order to get some kind of a revenue. But I don't think it would be that much. Right.

It would you'd be required to like hide money. Yeah. I think like or like launder something through there in order to make that a profitable venture. Yeah. He'd make something. Yeah. But I don't think it would be that much.

Yeah. And then I mean, the only other explanation I have is to try and take over as much of an audience as he can get. That's more what I think because Steven is a much bigger audience. Sure. In terms of certainly numbers that you can see. Right.

He also has an audience that's clearly impressionable if they think this shit's funny. Demographic is much younger. Much younger. Yeah. And I could I could see that and see. I think that people who are a little bit older recognize some of the more toxic things about Alex.

Yeah, that's true. People who are adults in the time of the tea party and stuff and you know lived through a lot of that. Right. Maybe have more of an understanding of Alex and wouldn't be as susceptible to him. Yeah. Whereas you know.

Impressionable youths. That's where you got to go. Yeah, there's a lot of things that he says that seem edgy and verboten and what have you. And maybe you think that that's a cool thing to be drawn to. So yeah, I think the most likely explanation is that Alex sees a fertile ground of people that he could take.

And I don't think for a second that he means what he's saying about rumble because Info Wars has a rumble channel and they don't really use it. Yeah. They barely use it at all. He doesn't give a shit. Yeah, they like if he cared really about that platform being something that was like the space race or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would be far more invested in it. Their channel is is not well used. Yeah, there's no way he's saying all of that. And he's like, oh, I would totally use rumble if band.video weren't so fucking successful. You know, I don't think. Yeah, yeah, I think that maybe that is part of it though,

too, is that like he's already pot committed with band.video. Yeah, that's definitely true. Yeah. So yeah, I think there is mostly a desire to steal whatever audience, lure whatever audience over you can. And I think that's part of why he plays along with the skit, plays along with the everything that's going on. Sure.

You want to you want to fit in. Yeah, he's trying to play the game. If this is what the young people like, you go to where the young people like to be. If it's unfortunate that they like Steven Crowder. I forgot to mention, Alex is wearing a backwards hat. He's not.

OK, thank God. I don't know. I don't know if I could handle that. I don't know if I could handle the Dungeons and Dragons fucking. We're going to be a super cool rebrand. I can't handle that. I'm Xander Jones. I'm 23 years old.

I can't do it. I just can't do it. Fellow youths. I like to kick flip. I'm rad. I wasn't even alive on 9 11. What are you talking about? Oh, so Alex does his show from Crowder Studio.

And for the first bit of it, Steven Crowder's co-host, co-hosting with Alex, which is so weird. Why not? Well, my friends, it's Monday, May 15th, 2023. And I am in the incredible studios and undisclosed location in Russia of Vladimir Putin's show, and I'm sorry, Steven Crowder, I'm joking. We're in Texas.

We love you. We have Gerald Morgan, the CEO of Vladimir Crowder, totally getting ass dominating, rumbled, dominating the numbers, leading the Exodus out of big tech control. I was asking Gerald, so I just co-hosted with him while Steven is dealing with a red tide problem. I just hosted with him for two hours.

It was a great, super fun, knocked out of the park. I got a lot of serious issues. I said, what do you want to cover first? And I was literally sitting here looking at my page, and I said, well, we should probably get into Biden and the whole declaring white people are black people's biggest enemy problem and that goes with the border.

Wow, OK, I guess. I mean, wait. The whole Biden declaring white people are the biggest enemy of black people problem. I mean, that's a problem. I agree. I think that probably would be a problem. Yeah.

Yeah, he declared war on corn pop. I mean, I guess it is what it is. No, there wasn't quite so much what happened. And also, wouldn't they like, I mean, I understand that they don't like the sentiment and the way that it's phrased coming from Biden, but shouldn't they welcome that declaration? Why?

Isn't that kind of their vibe that white people are the biggest enemy of everybody else? Well, no. Well, yeah. In one direction. Right, exactly. But I mean. Everyone else views white people as their enemy,

not the other way around. That is the way that Alex and the white victim hood persecution complex works. Right. But I mean, at the end of the day, that makes them. So really, what happened is that Biden went to Howard University, which is a historically black university. Yeah, yeah, HBCU.

Yeah. And he gave commencement speech that had to, like, included in, among other, many other statements, that white supremacy is one of the great threats. Oh, so he didn't come out and say, kill Whitey? He didn't. OK, all right. Well, maybe next time.

So here's their complaining about that. Just encourage people. They just got their degree. Don't want to go and hear a political speech. Just encourage people. They want to know how they can go out and charge into an economy that is. They want to hear how they're part of the American Green

and how they've been successful. Right. How they've done a good job, not your victims and I'm going to protect you. But that's all they've got. If you're for the globalism, you're good. If you're against open borders, you're against fentanyl, you're against all these wars, you're

against all the world culture, you're a white supremacist. Remember, Biden made that his main national security focus in June of 2021 was, quote, white supremacy. Then describe white supremacists as people that question elections, question lockdowns, question force shots. So when you hear this term, this is literally the Democratic Party that failed state, the party that KKK, labeling its political opposition as white supremacists.

And then right on time, that weird white supremacist group that wears the mask just pops up. Right. Exactly. Oh, right at that same time. False flag as Patriot Front. Oh, no, Patriot Front. That's definitely not an established white national

group. That's an FBI front. He's an FBI fake. Yeah, that sounds right. So yeah, the thing that Alex is doing this classic misrepresentation about is that it wasn't that people who question the election or have vaccine concerns, they are white supremacists. It's that groups, including white supremacists,

see fertile radicalization grounds within these movements. And that is true. And I know that Alex doesn't want to believe that because he likes that fertile radicalization ground being there. But yeah, so he presents it as like anybody who questions the election as a white supremacist according to Biden and like, go fuck yourself. Yeah.

It's so elementary that it's almost, it's frustrating to even put up against. He's doing one of the great signs of somebody you shouldn't trust, which is if any topic comes up that you have to defend so breathlessly for such a period of time, you're doing it wrong. I can't trust you. Yeah.

You very well might actually be trying to defend white supremacists. Yeah, it sounds like you're doing it breathlessly, aggressively, and very totally. Oh, and also it's so weird how all these white supremacists, white nationalist groups are all fake. But then fake left wing groups are real. Right. Yeah.

OK. So look, they start complaining about migrants and folks not having to get the COVID vaccine and what have you. 172 million. It's gone up so many. But you've got to assume that's only like a third of them. Yeah, you know. Yeah, that's true.

Can you believe that? People that they're letting run the streets basically, just ship them somewhere, let them run around. They don't have to have the COVID yet. Nobody should have to have it by the way. But if you're really going to have the illegal immigrants, not the people who are coming in legally, not the people who are volunteering and checking the box

and signing the guest book and saying, hey, I'd like to come here and do something good for this country. Those guys should be exempt if anybody is. I'm sorry. They're just really. No, you're right. Not gay Gerald is making some good money. Oh, come on.

No, not gay Alec. I was going off on me right. It's a joke. Not gay Alex has asked the question. You're not a regular crowd over here. You don't get to do something new with Gerald. It's a joke. Everybody knows it's me that's gay.

Robert Barnes is coming up next segment competition lawyer to cover the waterfront and everything that's happening. Wow. I found myself missing the elevator music. Yeah, I know. I'm telling you that. I was just expecting the elevator music to come in.

At some point, like, God damn it. That is what makes Louder with Crowder bearable is the elevator music that they think is going to get me somewhere else. Ironically, it improves the show. Yeah, it way. Yeah. So that joke that they made was about Crowder's former employee

and on air sort of co-host Jared Monroe, who went by the name not gay Jared. It was a fun joke about how he wasn't gay, I guess. So Jared left the show in 2018. And there's not really a good answer as to why he left. However, a lot of former employees of Crowder have come out lately and talked about how he has a bullying and abusive workplace environment

that may have contributed to Jared's departure. One such employee told the New York Post that Crowder exposed himself multiple times to Jared at work. And another of Crowder's ex-employees and current Nazi Owen Benjamin has said that Crowder was miserable to work for and wasn't good about paying the staff. Jared appears to be a soft target for someone like Alex or Steven's current co-host to poke fun at,

because he's not one of the named former staffers who's coming out against Steven. So there's probably less blowback they have to worry about, because it's clear that at this point it seems like he's respecting whatever actual or respect-based NDA or whatever. He doesn't want to talk shit or whatever. And so he's someone you can easily talk shit about.

Sure, sure. So that's what the joke is with the not gay Gerald. Yeah, that's great. That's great. I really thought those were behind us. I really did. Do you remember, what was it, in the late thousands that time whenever everybody was saying no homo all the time?

Yeah, it's basically that. Yeah, it's basically that. But as a nickname. Yeah, but didn't we all realize that that's actually really fucked up to do? And we shouldn't have been doing that. And I can't believe we did. And everybody allowed us to do it?

Fuck us. I think a lot of people had the experience that you're talking about, and then a lot of people, like Crowder, decided to. That's the way I live my life forever. Still funny. Hey, great. And so they kind of hit this joke.

Wayne's World references. And yeah, great. They hit this joke a little hard. Oh, boy. We've got six minutes left with Gerald Morgan. Gerald, I can ask a lot of questions, but in the time we've got. No, I'm not gay.

Well, you said you could ask a lot. I just wanted to take a lot off the table. It's an old joke. It is. It's been made new. Absolutely. These guys have a dry sense of humor. Wow.

I don't understand humor anymore. This isn't it. I know. Here's the thing. When we were doing stand-up, I understood. It made sense. I was going up, and I had instant reaction. This was funny.

This was not. Now I'm here, and I'm listening to this, and I'm hearing that you're telling me people, millions of people laugh at this shit, and now I don't know anything, man. I don't know anything. Well, we only assume that lots of people laugh at this. That's fair.

That might be a hasty assumption on our part. That's a good point. Maybe they tolerate it. Yeah, because they like some of the hate. Because they like the white nationalism. They're like, fine, we'll pretend you're funny. Look, everyone calls everybody a white supremacist. And they're like, it's Alex has had enough of it.

It's all very tired. No, it's old hat. Yes, very much so. All right, so welcome back to Alex Jones' show, hosting Library of Seabroom Crowders, Texas, undisclosed location on Shorter Island. Shotgun was a special guest, a border expert. Next segment.

Owen, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that Biden, for two and a half years, the number one French white supremacist, despite the fact, none of the evidence showing that. And now, if we don't like them, borders were white supremacist. I'm really concerned about a false flag. Yeah, false flag from these fake groups.

So yeah, you've got a special guest coming up, though. You heard that? They're very exciting. Yeah. It's not Robert Barnes. Oh. We're skipping past him. OK, good.

I don't care. I saw he was on, and I'm like, fast forward. We don't need media star Bobby Barnes no more. Look, I had a lot to go through with, you know, preparing this episode. I had listened to Alex and Steven Crowder shows within the same day, and it's a lot to go through. So I didn't need to throw Barnes into the pile.

You don't need to add Barnes onto that, yeah. I feel like, now I might be wrong, but I feel like at this point in my career, I've heard about everything I need Barnes to say. Don't you want two adjectives all the time right next to each other? We're cooking and looking. Yeah, I know.

Can't we just rhyme things all day, every day? This is potatoes and potatoes. I don't know that one. So yeah, he has a special guest. And given all the complaining about how everybody calls everyone a white nationalist, real surprising with who this guest is. All right, we have the editor here,

Primlove of vdare.com. He's been a major journalist and commentator and writer at MarketWatchForbes. Horseson Magazine, Barnes Financial Post. It goes on and on. He ends up vdare exposing the design collapse of our border. Yeah, yeah, Peter Brimlow. He was a writer at a lot of those places until a certain

career shift. He started hosting this white nationalist smorgasbord of a website. Well, vdare, some may say that it's white nationalist because it is. After all that shit, all that time where Alex was whining about people calling him a white supremacist and rambling about how white supremacy isn't a real problem,

this is who he has on as a guest. He has noted white nationalist Peter Brimlow, the head of one of the most celebrated publications among white supremacists, vdare. That's a very good illustration of irony. Vdare is named after Virginia Dare, who's said to be the first British child born in what is now the United States.

She was born in the Roanoke Colony in 1587. And if you know your early colonial history, you'll know that this colony straight up disappeared. Croatoa. No one knows what happened to it. And there's no concrete evidence to support any of the theories surrounding its fate. However, one of the prominent theories

is that the local Chesapeake tribe, I believe, no, that's not right. It was another tribe. I apologize I got that wrong. But one of the prominent theories is that they were killed by one of these tribes, which is part of the basis for why Virginia Dare has become an important signifier among white nationalist and white

supremacist groups. You can see why this image has resonance for that kind of community, what with their obsession of their own persecution for being white. To be clear, there is another version of memorializing Virginia that does happen among non-white nationalists, as she's kind of a symbol of new beginnings and the possibilities

that began with the first child born in the colonies. But it's important to understand that this is not the legacy that vdare celebrates. They are definitely in the whiteness business. As Brimlow himself has said, quote, I picked the name because I wanted to focus attention on the very specific cultural origins of America at a time when mass non-traditional immigration

is threatening to swamp it. I have to say that I was a little surprised by this booking, particularly given the earlier tone of the episode, but it's not that much of a shock. The rest of the episode, honestly, is predictably Alex and Brimlow exchanging. What amounts to white genocide fears about immigration?

Back and forth. Yeah, that sounds right. More or less. So we've got that to enjoy. Yeah, I don't think that one's a good one to memorialize too much. I think just let that one go. What do you mean?

Well, I mean, ah, boy. I agree with you in the way that vdare memorializes her. Sure, sure. But I do think that there is kind of some aspects of the mystery that surrounds everything about the Roanoke colony, honestly. Sure, sure, sure. And her as a young child who, like, I don't know,

it has, there's almost a Peter Pan-ish quality to, like, I mean, it's obviously not the true story. Sure, sure, sure. But like the idea that she grew up in the untouched woods. No, I understand. There's something that you can understand resonating with people on a non-hateful, let's get rid of all white, all non-white immigrants.

No, no, no. I can understand that. I can understand that. But to me, like, there's a certain part of me that can't help but be like, I don't know if people celebrate the first white child born in Johannesburg. You know, like, maybe we let that one go.

I can understand there's a fraught situation. But just the only reason I'm even giving any voice to this is because when I was looking into it, there's a lot of folks that don't seem to have any hateful intent, that still look upon Virginia Dare as like an interesting figure. For sure. And context-less, it is still a wonderful symbol.

It is still a metaphor. It's still a great symbol of that hope, of like, we have left a place of persecution. I get that. That's cool. And it's not that for them. So it's the same thing with, it has elements of like, John Birch in the John Birch society.

Sure, sure. The first person who was killed in the Cold War. Right. Or whatever, taking on this as like, you know, mythologizing and creating this idea that serves your political purposes as opposed to like, what the person was. And I think it's fairly similar.

But I think that there's some people who probably would remember John Birch as. Oh, totally. I mean, I don't, you know, he was a missionary. Some people probably had some positive feelings about him. People who do. It isn't about anti-communism and absurd conspiracy nonsense. What I find so disingenuous about this and what drives me mad

that it is so easy to see through and is still not seen through is like, they're clearly martyr hunting. Yeah. You know, they're going and purposely finding people that they can use as martyrs. Yeah. They are not allowing martyrs to be symbols. Yeah.

You know. For sure. Yeah. So Brimlow has some ideas about what he wants to see in the world, or at least in the US, and how it should change. OK. Is there time to turn it back?

How's this being received? I mean, it does seem like it's waking people up right now, but is it a dollar, a day late, a dollar short? No, there's a lot of stuff that could be done. I think the most critical thing that could be done right now is abolishing both right citizenship, because all of these people are going to come in, they're coming in now.

If they have kids here, those kids are American citizens. As a practical matter, they can't be deported. So that should be done immediately. And then, of course, they should do massive deportations. It was a huge deportation campaign in the early 50s when there was an illegal immigration crisis. It wasn't nowhere near as bad as this, but it was very substantial.

And about a million and a half illegals left in the 1950s. They only had to deport about 100,000 of them, where the dealers got the message and left. And that would happen again. But the problem is the Democrats don't want it to happen. And what they've got to do with that, we've got to end anchor babies, end anchor babies, and then reinvent President Eisenhower's policies.

Incidentally, when Brimlow says that he wants a mass deportation like the one in the 50s, he's referring to an operation that has a racist name. Yeah. Rhymes with Jetpack. Yeah. Does not great. Over a million people were deported to Mexico.

Many of them, who are American citizens who were caught up in drag nets, set out to capture immigrants. Incalculable damage was done to Mexican-American communities who were terrorized and disrupted. People who were deported were often left in areas where they were completely unfamiliar with their surroundings and had no food or water.

In one case that was referenced by NPR, there was a roundup in 112-degree heat that resulted in 88 deaths. After a few months, the program ended with the government declaring victory and saying that the border was secure. But in reality, all they had done is terrorize a non-white population. Some have said that mass deportations like this

constitute acts of ethnic cleansing, since they involve the forceful removal of people based on ethnicity. And Brimlow supports that. So, I mean, you can kind of see where he's at. Yeah, I wonder if Brimlow wants his imagined revoking of birthright citizenship to be retroactive. That would get messy really fast.

And that's where I was thinking about this idea of, like, if people who were born in the US are quote unquote illegal, then who is legal? No, I mean, the reasonable thing to do, if you say that, is give all the land back to the native populations and then if they don't want all of it, we can lease some from them. It is strange to want that.

Considering the ramifications that would be made by this policy having existed, you really just want to push non-white people out of the country. Yeah, I mean, I was going to say. That's at the end of the day, that's all this is. Are you coming for the potato famine? Like, what are we doing?

Where does your bullshit stop? Because I'll tell you what, y'all weren't on the fucking Mayflower. That's for God's sake. And even if you were. Fuck you. Do you have any right to citizenship? Right? I don't know.

I sure as fuck don't think so. So also, if he wants this done, he's going to need to change the Constitution, because the 14th Amendment is pretty explicit that people born in the US are citizens. If being opposed to that is fine, even though it's in the Constitution, then Alex should probably not be so mad about people

who want gun reform. Yeah, it's that. Apparently, amendments are open questions. Yeah, you just can't have a traditionalist viewpoint of the Constitution and then be like, but we'll change whatever we want, whenever we want to, for being racist. Yeah.

Hooray. So anyway, I was surprised that I actually got an answer, because I was wondering if he wanted to have a retroactive or a vocal of people's citizenship from being born in the US. And apparently, he does. What's the timetable? How long until we lose the country?

I mean, how bad is it? I mean, give us your real prognosis on what's going to happen that is continuous. What's in very blunt terms? Why has there ceased to be a majority in America somewhere around about 2050? Now, that doesn't mean there'll be a majority. The she's been a majority with a lack of it.

I don't think maybe another 20 years. But somewhere in here, if you want America to remain American, you've got to get control of the situation. And that means an immigration moratorium needs mass deportation. It probably needs retroactive or racism citizenship reform. All the people who came in the last three or four years

should not be allowed to become American citizens. And their children should be left to become American citizens. But it can be done. That's messy. So here's the thing. All right, here's the problem with your V-Dare bullshit. If you're going to say that, what you are implicitly saying, whether you understand it or not,

is that the smartest thing that the first peoples could have done is the moment a white person landed on this place, they should have killed every single fucking one of us every single time we fucking landed on this place. That's the smart thing that he is advocating for, because that is a smart way to maintain control of your country. Maybe there's another way, but.

Well, I mean, deport them. Or whatever it is you want to pretend is what his real goal is. Right, yeah. I'm more interested in this shell game that he's playing with terms. Sure. Alex is saying, how long is it going to be

until we lose the country? And then he talks about how long it'll be until there isn't a white majority. And then he says, if we want to keep America American, it's like, OK, you're talking about losing the country. You're interchangeably, essentially, using white majority and America being American. So we kind of get what's going on here.

You can use other terms if you want. This is about a white majority. That's all you want. It's white nationalism. I mean, it is exactly that. That's why I can't get the, I mean, maybe they would be fine with that. You know, like that idea of, yeah,

if the Native Americans wanted to keep this land, they should have fucking killed us. Like, maybe that would make sense to them. If, well, they would, yeah, I guess the complaint they would have is that they didn't have a good enough organization to deport the settlers, the colonists. Like, that has to be your argument. And if that's your argument, then you

have to say that America is ours because we conquered it. And then you have to say that it is. You might actually be OK with that. No, and if that's the case, then you do have to say that this is a white nation because white people conquered it, I guess, is your argument. I think you would probably try and use terms like Western

or American. Yeah, but that would be done. Traditional American or something like that. You could do that, but that would be dumb. Right. But that's, you know, again, it's the hiding the ball. Yep. So the number one problem to Peter Brimlow apparently

is black crime in the US, which is not surprising. If we want people to assimilate in melting pot, we could do it. But they're bringing in farm populations to what create boulders. It's not what we want to do. Oh, yes. I mean, the Democrats, but everything on identity policy,

they think if they have, you know, very much ethnic factions and so on, they're easily manipulated. And they're also easily incited against the base of the host American population, which is why we see Joe Biden giving this speech at Howard University on the weekend saying that the major problem is his wife's supremacy. You know, that's the major problem in the country.

Of course, the major problem in this country has his black crime. But he doesn't want to say that. He wants to rile up his own base. The next thing we're going to be, you know, reparations for Hispanics or something like that because of Cortez. Maybe not because of Cortez, but maybe because of the,

you know, the dragnets and illegal, nasty portations that you're saying we need more of that happened in, you know, the Great Depression and in the fifties that he celebrates. And maybe there is an argument to be made for some reparations for people, you know, due to that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I can disagree with him insofar as he is describing a group of ethnic obsessives

who were hating the swamp and were easily manipulated into voting for a racist billionaire and then attempted to overthrow the country after being incited by said billionaire. I mean, if he's talking about himself. I don't know. I don't know if Brimlow was at J6. He's making a very good argument for why we couldn't do that.

Why we shouldn't do that. Yeah, why he shouldn't do that. This, I mean, this is a pretty, pretty bad interview. Yeah, this is a white nationalist conversation. This is not an interview. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we get to some suggestions here where Brimlow has some ideas about what should be done.

So what is the, what is the policy? What is the idea of Peter to, to end this, to stop this? I mean, what do we need to do? Well, you know, first of all, abolish political correctness. Why can't we talk about this, frankly? What can we count on the mainstream media, which is why you and I are talking here now? How is that a policy idea?

What's the government going to do to abolish political correctness that's going to have an impact on whether or not news channels want to talk to Peter Brimlow, but it's tired ass old xenophobic ideas. Does he want the government to mandate that he's required to be booked on CNN? He's already opposed to the 14th Amendment,

so why not the first two? It's not political correctness that makes people not want to talk about Peter's ideas. It's that we've done this already. His ideas aren't new and dangerous. They're really old and from a past most of us have left behind. Terrorizing minority communities to encourage them

to leave the country is a monstrous suggestion and it didn't work when the U.S. did that in the Great Depression and then did it again in the 50s. This shit is stale and transparent, so most legitimate networks don't have any interest in engaging with it. There isn't a conversation to be had. His side is wrong and stupid.

Yeah, no, I'm struggling to think of a 30-year period where we did not have one attempt at an ethnic cleansing in this country since its inception. On the other hand, Alex runs a network that's essentially fueled by inciting white victimhood narratives, which is what Brimlow's goddamn site is named after,

so he's perfect for this. They can sit around and whine about how nobody likes them because of their dangerous ideas and they can have fun in their fucking echo chamber, just insisting that they're not racist, but stupid, it's meaningless. But this really gives up the game a little bit when the first thing that comes to Peter's mind

when Alex asks for a policy suggestion is to abolish political correctness. This is an embarrassing level of unseriousness that I don't know. I mean, he's a fucking adult. This is not cool. I mean, you might as well say what the government should do is mandate everybody say white nationalist things.

The government should not be woke. I mean- The government should stop channels from being woke. For all- The government should regulate who's allowed to be in beer commercials. Can I say that if that is your number one policy choice, then essentially what you are saying

is that the government should step in and stop people from being mean to me. Yeah, let me stipulate that it's maybe not his number one policy decision because I think that would be like mass deportation. Sure, sure, sure. That would be good for him. But it's the first thing that came to his mind.

So yes, exactly. Because he knows he's not going to get mass deportation. He's hoping for people to not be mean to him anymore. He's also not gonna get anyone to abolish political correctness because this doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. No, this is just, I'm not getting booked.

I mean, yeah, didn't we already move on from the term political correctness now it's woke? Well, he's like- Exactly, he's trapped in the past whenever we already fucking did this. Yeah, I'm curious, how old is he? 75. 75.

75 years young. Wow. Yep. We should be listening to people who are 75. Yep, yep. Also, you might notice his accent. He was born in England. But he is a naturalized US citizen. Okay, so let's deport him.

Well, he went through the naturalized process. I want to deport him. Well, I mean, I feel like- He's not from here. I feel like it would be interesting for you to argue that against him. I want to deport you. See what his argument for why he should be-

Let's go, buddy. Yeah. So, man, I don't- I mean, for fuck's sakes, you shouldn't be allowed in this fucking country. If your bullshit is about the beginning of this fucking country, British people have no business being here.

None! You know that Alex screamed to Piers Morgan about how, like, about 1776 and all this- I mean, I'm just saying, they should be the only people that are thoroughly banned from being in this country. Wow. This is a bull.

I'm standing by this recommendation. So a lot of people will make the argument that, you know, Peter Brimlow's racist. Sure. And he's- I mean, I can't imagine why people would say that. But in the short term, what we need is one immigration moratorium, two massive deportation,

and three birthright citizenship reform. Four, I think the abolition of a lot of these- this DEI stuff, this diverse secretary inclusion, which is basically a way of subsidizing these non-whites, non-traditional groups through public policy. That's necessary because, you know, if they were subsidized, they would go away.

They'd be more inclined to go away. Yeah, you just want non-white people to go away. This is- yep. And, I mean, you know, he kind of gives up a little bit of the illusion there when he says non-white, non-traditional. So that's what you mean when you say non-traditional, essentially.

Do we get the message? Yeah. Get the message. Yep, yep. Non- straight white cis people. That's what is allowed here. Let's put up one big sign around the border. Straight white cis people.

It's a little overt. Yeah. So we have one last clip here, because Alex does his show from Steven's studio. He talks to Steven's co-host, then he has Barnes on, and then he has Peter Brimlow, and then Owen takes over. So it's really a half day for his own show, despite the full day for the other show.

Because I think his interests are more in piracy of that ship. Yep, yep. Yep. So anyway, here is Brimlow, and Alex just kind of being racist. So it's fundamentally a corrupt motive. But it's not just corruption.

I mean, these people absolutely disliked having a white America. They think that they're safer for various ethnic reasons. If they can build up a more diverse America, and they can manipulate all the different factions that have played them up against each other. And that's, of course, what they're doing. By the way, I have the clips of leftists

like the head of the vaccine program in Texas saying, she's a white lady. White people are inherently bad. We've got to get rid of them. They don't do what we say. So I think there is an idea that the rebellions of England the last 400 years in Scotland and Ireland, I mean, if you really look at the Civil War and what happened

there, I mean, it was a bunch of people from what's the UK today that did want to be told what to do. And I think they do see particularly that European stock is having a seat of rebellion in it that they don't want the globalists to capture the third world. So they're really fundamentally attacking that. I mean, it really is true.

Holy shit. I am, you know, sometimes I stop and think about their bullshit and all their Western bullshit. And then I just can't stop thinking about how Europe has been fighting nonstop for the past 2,000 years, like non fucking stop. It's been a lot. Nonstop war across all of Europe.

So what world do you think you're going to live in where the United quote states is going to not go into a giant shit ton of wars with each other? That's crazy. I think even, you know, taking it outside of Europe, I think just inner personally with everybody, there is conflict, there is resolution,

there is community, there's communion. Like there are all those aspects between every individual and individual and every group and every group, because that's just kind of the nature of how humans are. And yeah, imagining that that state of affairs would ever be different, like regardless of who is where, like is silly almost.

I mean, there's a very good lens to view human history through, and that's just the genesis of breaking up and then getting back together again. A constant breakup, new ideas, smash back together, break up, new ideas, smash back together in waves, over and over and over again, until about 50 years from now when we're all dead. So one of the things that I think is really kind of bizarre

about this is that like, OK, so you have essentially regressiveness is the name of the game. Like there is a desire to regress policy back to a point when everything was white oriented and that's the name of the game. The good old idyllic rhymes. Much like, you know, a lot of white supremacists, white nationalists, types.

Peter Brimlow is really against the immigration reforms in 1965, the quote, heartseller act that Nick Fuentes screams about all the time. Sure. And so like, you know, you have this desire to regress, but like, I don't know, at that point, you don't think you're going to regress further? Like, at what point do you have a stable definition,

even of whiteness, that you're going to adhere to? Oh, man. I mean, it seems to me like there's just going to be problems. If he got what he wanted. Even in his ideal world. If he got what he wanted five minutes after every non-white person was gone,

every Catholic should be shaken in their boots. You know, like, that's the next step for these people. The logical next step. Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely. There's, yeah, I think that this is just a nonsense game that he's playing that's out of division and hate that is at the root of all of this. And he can intellectualize things all he wants.

It's just stupid. And it's not a solution to any real problem. Now, the other thing is, I do find it fascinating, this racism that Alex has of the implication is that these white European stocks have a kind of a noble heroic-ness to them. And the implication, I guess, is that all other ethnic groups don't.

It's hard not to get that implication. It is. People don't understand what words mean when you put them all together. They mean more than the thing that you intend them to mean. They mean the totality of what they mean. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah, I think, I mean, obviously, the headline is Alex was on Steven Crowder's show and then hosted his own show from Crowder Studio. The two of them are getting buddy, buddy in a way that is, you know, it's. Uncomfortable? I mean, a little bit in as much as I think

that the Steven Crowder brand of content is fucking stupid and difficult to watch in a way that is, because there's just annoyance. There's sound effects. There's fart noises almost constantly. They're like, it's it's just a very bad. Yeah. Sophomoric show.

No, it's like white nationalist Howard Stern shit. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And the I don't think that there's any real possibility of the two of them merging in any way that is like, like going to make a forming like Voltron and to show because their egos won't allow it.

Yeah. Crowder has this big deal with rumble. Alex has his own site that he's invested millions and millions of dollars into. So like, there isn't a way that these merge necessarily. And so that part is kind of a concern that I isn't foremost in my mind. Right.

But the way that Alex operates and the way he tries to like co-op and take viewers from people and lead them into his shit. Yeah. That I think is kind of scary because particularly the demographic information about like younger, generally younger audience listening to Crowder. Yep. I think that it does pose a significant danger.

Yeah. Because I mean, at the end of the day, Alex would happily torpedo everything Steven Crowder's ever built if it gets him a little bit more attention. He's a sneaky snake. Yeah. As soon as he burn it all down as soon as he doesn't need him. He's got to gut him like a pig.

I mean, I don't know how these people can trust each other at all for even a fucking second. No, I don't. I doubt they do. Yeah. That's crazy. And then I mean, sub headline, probably more importantly, it looks like Peter Primlo on his show to just spout white

nationalist bullshit. Yep. Yep. So that's that. That is that. See, I don't like the modern day. No, no, no. Sucks.

Yeah. Anyway, we'll be back in another episode. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yeah. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter.

It's at knowledge.com. Fight. Yep. Damn it. Look, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neomly. I'm DZX Clark. I wish that I had just isolated the elevator music.

Yeah, I know. That would have been perfect instead of my scatting. You can imagine that elevator music in your head right now. Just a couple seconds of that. Just imagine it right here. No, no, no. You can't do it. OK, so that'll ruin the audience's ability to imagine it.

So just imagine it. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.

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