Knowledge Fight - #809: May 18, 2023

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check into how things are going for Alex in the present day.  Turns out, not well.  In this installment, Alex interviews a lawyer idiot, interviews a fellow talk show host idiot, and reports on the absurd story that 139 US hospitals had "kill floors" where doctors murdered Covid patients.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex I'm a Christian color. I'm a huge fan and love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan workable dudes. Sit around. Worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today buddy? You go first. My bright spot Dan is yesterday my wife my wife's mom's

my wife's mom's. That one's a little bit tougher. Give it a shot. It's great. It went over well. Thanks. They took our two dogs Fanny and Jake who I will be honest with you. We are not great at grooming our dogs. That's true. They're they're they're off a mess. They're off the mess and then and summer is barreling down and they were going to be extremely hot so that we took them over and they groomed our dogs for us and it was an incredibly nice thing for them to do because they agreed in advance without knowing exactly how much work it was going to be. But isn't one of them a dog groomer or a dog show. Yeah they're very familiar with shows. Yeah this is right in the wheelhouse. Right. But I mean it's still a nice thing to do. I didn't mean to minimize it. Oh no

no no it's here's the thing. If we took it to a professional groomer they would have been like there is no the cash register doesn't go high enough. You know like that's they were not well that we needed them just fair enough. So it was it was a monumental task and I am incredibly grateful because they look great. Well it's nice. Yes sweet dogs. What's your right. One of them sweeter than the other. I'll leave that on. Definitely true. Definitely true. Which is which. I think we all know. Even listeners may know. I think I've expressed my preferences for your dogs. So I may be moving in the not too distant future. Indeed. And so my bright spot is I have been trying to gather my stuff together and it's leading me to go through some stuff that

I haven't looked at in a very long time. And so I opened up a folder that I have and it has a number of posters that my brother drew of me like when I was in college. Right. He drew a comic strip that was about me but not really about me. Yeah we've talked about that. Yeah. And so there were a number of like posters. There were some weird photo shops too that like I don't know I don't know where these came from but they were they were just bizarre photo shops with my face on things. The Wikipedia entry for false false flag. It was just it was delightful like going through all this stuff. And in it I found this letter that I've talked about before but a couple of times when I've told people about this they did not believe they don't believe that this is true.

Okay. I was I got a confidential letter in the mail one day while I was in college and it was from the like disciplinary office or whatever and like my being in college was under review. Someone had complained about me to the disciplinary board because of something I had written in the campus paper. Yes. Yes. And so I went to the meeting with a friend of mine pretending to be my lawyer because I just made a big joke out of the whole thing. Yeah. It's a confidential letter. Yeah. Someone's trying to get me kicked out of school. Totally. And so I found the letter. I actually still have the letter not the first letter. Sure. But I got I still have the second letter that was the guy saying we are so sorry that you did not do anything wrong.

I saw that I was like oh man it's nice when you have little things that like remind you that your past isn't like embellished or your stories that you tell over and over again at bars and stuff like you start to question some of the specific details of that. Totally. And it's nice to have like this little this little what would you call it. Momento. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. You know that's trophy. That's a concrete physical thing. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So that was real nice. No. I mean for for us with some of our exploits from the past there's a little bit of like I'm probably making that up. I don't believe me. That sounds like especially a number of the things that ended up becoming bits. Yeah. That I would do on stage. Absolutely. I question my own memory

of totally of a number of things that were that became jokes. Yeah. Did I did I embellish this for the bit. Right. What is real. You know he said something to that person. Totally. But I probably wasn't that witty. I mean that's real. Jordan that's a little too witty for real life. Come on buddy. And I mean that's one of the reasons why I really value keeping a lot of these mementos of totally of like things that listeners have sent in and you know stuff like that because one day I'll probably be like people didn't really like that show. It would be nice to have like I don't know. Old man old mantis house phone puppet. I'm worried that we're going to be sitting in some fucking old man chairs just being like I didn't really like our show. No people liked it.

It's not sucked. Come on. It's a possible outcome for us. So Jordan today we have an episode to go over. Yes. And today we're going to be talking about the present day. You know I think a fair criticism could be made that we have not paid much attention to the present day. I think a lot of that has to do with it being kind of repetitive a little bit boring. A lot of the time certainly inflammatory dangerous not to say that there isn't bad stuff going on but a lot of it ends up being retread territory and what have you. And so it can be a little bit frustrating but that said I think that there is an argument to be made that we need to you know do a little more in the present day. So I'm going to I'm going to make an effort on that front. All right. All right. I recognize that.

So in service of that we'll be talking about May 18th 2000 and 23. That was Thursday. That was Thursday. Alex only did a couple of minutes on Friday. Okay. He did not did not do most of his show. Owen hosted did a lot of it from the car. No. From the home studio. Oh sitting in the what could have been Alex Jones live painting office. But unfortunately Mark screwed us. He should have an easel in there just to taunt us. Just to taunt us like a rapper ports. Totally. Totally. I mean just a signal to only us. I know you know like that would be worth it and we would be suitably chastised if he could pull that off. I'll eat it. I would say fair play. Yeah absolutely. We would have no choice but to be like tip of the cap to you sir. So yeah we also just you know there's a

bit of stuff going on so we didn't have an episode on Friday. Thank you for everybody being cool about that. We are now back and we'll be getting into this bullshit. All right. We might also be getting a little bit of a return of furious Dan sick of the bullshit. Hey I like that Dan. Yeah. So we'll see if he if he comes out to play. But for now before we get into business let's take a little moment say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So first bench a Piro. Oh I get it. It's like bench a Piro but bench a Piro. Thank you so much. You are now policy want. I'm a policy want. Thank you very much. Sorry I ruined the joke. Next Amber Willow. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy want. Thank you. Very much. Thank you. Next I'm walking on sunshine.

I'm walking. I'm walking on sunshine. Thank you so much. You are now a policy want. I'm a policy world. Thank you very much. And abominable Kiwi. Thank you so much. You are now a policy oh. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much every other technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to nonx revenge You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk Someone someone Sotomayor sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little titty, baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much So this episode is trash. Okay, it's real bad. Okay. All right

Alex has a bunch of bad people on all right bad shit with bad stories That's a good point making me mad. Okay, read a chapter of a book that was unrelated to Alex's shit Just because of some nonsense. He was talking But I also think that it's an interesting case study in The theory that Alex might do stimulants Okay, you will hear him quite speedy towards the end of this episode, okay? And yet here is what he's like at the beginning. Okay Last night before I got up at 6 a.m. This morning

Something really happened to me I I crossed into a new mental space. Oh God that I've never really experienced before and I'm having trouble describing it, but it is a Brainwave or mindset That I would describe as a mixture of Sadness oh boy

And of responsibility Okay, and of determination Pull it together man. I was to draw this out longer But also extremely calm Okay and Committed now everything I'm gonna cover here today We all basically already know is true and going on so that's great starting the show by saying that everything They're gonna be covering his stuff the audience already knows basically just saying the shit's redundant and he's out of material

Listen skip this one. I got nothing new for you. I don't know this might just be really have no gas in the tank This is whatever. I think I'm not good asmr. I don't know why you would be listening to this for my noises that tone scares me That's so sluggish and like And it's like you're just starting the show coming out the gate with nothing absolute cold this low Energy brutal pretty bad pretty scary Yeah, also I grow weary of him constantly saying that he's reached a new place of zen like clarity Constantly over and over again. Oh, no, no last time was not as clear as this time Yeah, generally speaking and I'm I'm going off of all of a sudden. I know everything. I'm going off of just my my own personal

Studying, you know, I don't know for sure But most of the time whenever people would reach like, you know enlightenment or whatever They didn't call back another week later and be like no no no no This time I super reached enlightenment like last time. I was kind of lying to you right like that didn't happen once a week You know Buddha would declare a new enlightenment once you get there you're done, right? Yeah, so Alex has a bunch of stories That that work together all right paint a larger picture. Okay We have already basically gone over the edge of a cliff

But we have a parachute we can pull before we hit the bottom, but we've jumped off the five thousand foot cliff And we're already falling about a thousand feet and And very soon we don't pull the chute Collectively we are all going to be destroyed that's that's guaranteed I've seen some people said I think about the evil people that are doing this at the top Down to their menu to the bottom and I just see so clearly Historically how this has happened before and I can see really the algorithm of evil

That they're using for control Now each one of these stories and there's six or seven that all tie together Maybe eight Why not nine all? Compliment each other in understanding what's unfolding and And each one is devastating Devastating In what it means and the ramifications

And Each one of these stories we could talk for the next four hours about just one of them Not at this rate Media some of the headlines Let me call me calmly But it's not just the stories. It's that they're telling you this now Here's one of them CNBC a

Secret of annual meeting attended by the world's elite has AI top of the agenda They go on to say the Bilderberg group is meeting in Portugal And that world leaders will secretly be there along with the heads of big tech and banks and they're going to save us with a world government plan to Protect us from the AI they're launching against us. So Alex said he might he has like seven maybe eight stories Yeah, he gets to two. Yeah, I was gonna say I wouldn't yeah, I would have been surprised if we got past three

I was really excited to track these eight stories and see what the connective tissue was Of course like see if we could really learn totally he gets to two and just gives up Yeah So one of the constant features of Alex's show is him saying that various things were total secrets that no one talked About before except for him But now all of a sudden the media is talking about this thing and that in and of itself is a story The message the audience is supposed to get from this is that the media is covering it because the globalists have told them to Because the globalists have to follow Alex's bizarre cosmic law system where before they do something evil toward the population

They have to give a cryptic warning about it So if we don't stop them before doing it It's our fault because we had the free will to stop them in almost every instance of this the thing that Alex is pretending was Previously a secret had been talked about widely before and he's just lying about the new news item in order to make it fit His mold as he's doing here this cosmic universe law thing is really stupid And what kind of universe do we live in where the victim of an atrocity is to blame for it being done to them because they Didn't stop it if someone with a gun confronts you in an alley and says I'm gonna kill you that technically is a warning They're signaling their intention and at that point you have the free will to try to stop them

The fact that you had that warning that doesn't make it your fault when the person then shoots you But I guess that's how Alex views the cosmos. Yeah, I mean that's dumb That's not good reasoning. No, it's just not no I was also thinking about this a little bit more and I had a realization Alex's greatest fear is a one-world government But by him believing in this weird intergalactic law system He essentially believes in a one-universe government that extends beyond our plane of existence and possibly beyond death This whole thing idea is that you know, if there's a one-world government

There would be nowhere you could go that wouldn't be under their control and yet his own ideology involves a far more Inescapable system of control. I just thought that was strange. Yeah I mean it is it is a little bit like a Russian nesting doll kind of you know Governments within governments within governments if your argument is that the United States government is a system Then you have to then say that the world government is a system. Just not organized or unified as a cosmic universal That's inescapable. Is there a solar system government? There's got to be a middle ground between multi-dimensional Earth and then everything else. I mean, I guess his version of it would be like that's what his religion is You know, that's God or something right? It's still like if you just

Just crystallize it down that is still like the greatest police state of all right for him right right and not and still further like If your point is that the universal galactic law is superior then again Everything you are doing to fight against the American government is pointless and stupid. What are you doing? Sure? There's the intergalactic government thing. Yep. Yeah, this CNBC article that Alex is covering is real and it's about how this year a Bilderberg has their 69th annual meeting nice and that AI is on the top of the agenda Now one thing that they don't mention when they included that statement in the headline that AI topped the agenda is that the agenda that was Published by the Bilderberg organizers was an alphabetical order

So AI topped the list because it started with a and the next item on the dock It was the banking system right AI very well may be an important topic But from that list that was published. It's unclear if it's the most important or if it's the first in the alphabet This is why you always make art bark a topic at the Bilderberg group always make art Topic is art barks. Okay. I guess that's what we're doing then right or someone named Aaron or or The movie AI starring Haley Joel Osmond. You know, that's the way you do it. There's a lot to work out about that movie There is yeah, yeah, Alex asserts that this CNBC article says that the Bilderberg group is going to quote save us with a world Government plan to protect us from the AI. They're launching against us. Sure

I know it doesn't need to be said, but that's nowhere in the article. Alex is just making that up That's his storyline and he's pretending that this article affirms, but it doesn't right So that's the first of the two articles of the seven that all connect together All right of the oh god, too that he's going to be I I here's here's what I would say. Mm-hmm. All right If you say something to me like I could spend four hours on this story Then you should end the sentence there and then say I will Well, it doesn't make sense. It raises the question of if you could

Is that that implies that there is enough to cover there and a reason for people exactly? Like I mean the more the more I think about it the more of like I shouldn't be talking. I what what can I know in 15 minutes? What what why would I ever watch an interview on TV for eight minutes? I can't learn anything in eight minutes I can't learn anything in eight minutes. Yeah, and Alex is doing a disservice by not going four hours on these topics Totally, there's a lot to learn. There's actually not. He just says that all the time. Yeah, that's fair So here's the second article. I don't think it connects at all And then that ties into this bombshell report that's on info wars.com from the National Archives and

The ADL is proud of this and Want you to know that for 60 years they've been secret police in America That have infiltrated groups and I believe what they describe as criminal they got criminally Indicted for break into police stations and robbing files in San Francisco areas, but When I tell you the ADL is at the heart of quarterbacking this stuff on the ground Not ascribe how they work with the Justice Department the CIA. They have released this and Are proud to let you know because now they've gone from beta to full operational from the school boards on up There are calamities about to hit us economically culturally militarily

That are already hitting that The system plans to really go the final step of assassinating Any populace any Anyone that stands against what's happening. Sure and and we're putting us in slave labor camps who the left's calling for I don't I don't think that I that's the case. I am now still notice the low register the very Kind of down delivery because he's gonna get speedy a little bit later. Yeah. Yeah, I'm white speedy You know what I want to say this I am tired of calling Alex a liar Okay, we he lies all the time sure so as a leftist

I am going to call for people like Alex to be put in slave camps. That is what I am calling for so now Alex is not lying Okay, I mean, I guess if you want to own that you can I own it I'm not gonna Only one on this planet, so I was a little bit worried about Alex listening to this at this point Sure seems unwell. Yeah, it's not real down real tangential. Yeah, kind of in his thinking So Alex didn't read this headline So it wasn't immediately obvious what the story that he was talking about was but it's an article from the Info Wars website titled quote ADL ran an extensive multi-dimensional counterintelligence operation to destroy the John Birch Society. Okay, this is a

Reposting of an article from information liberation, which is another very info wars ish outlet Yeah, the this article is in turn Rereporting on an interview that the Jewish telegraphic agency did with a historian named Matthew Dalek who has a new book out called Birchers how the John Birch Society radicalized the American right in researching the book you found records in the archives of the American Jewish Historical Society in New York that detailed how members of the ADL had Infiltrated the John Birch Society and were able to use their inside information to help expose the real character of the JBS and how much of a Threat that opposed to a civil democratic society, right? Alex can be all upset as much as he wants about how members of the ADL

Infiltrated this group he loves and showed the public how they were organized around ideas like opposition to civil rights But his claims that they were some kind of gestapo or working with the government to take down JBS figures It's just not true. Also, the ADL isn't bragging about this The entire story is about a historian who wrote a book uncovering this chapter in history. The ADL itself isn't even involved This is the second headline and so far both of them are articles that Alex is completely misreporting All right, and we're not gonna get more. No, so here's it. It's obvious. All right AI ADL

How many how many of the other stories started with a is the question Hmm Most of my clips start with the word Alex. Oh, so a lot of those So this story like I said has nothing to do with the ADL except for this historian found records Regarding the ADL and their behavior in like 1959 and through the 60s, right? he is taking that opportunity to Quite aggressively attack the ADL in ways that might come off as a bit anti-semitic But let's talk about what's really going on here because

By having the ADL come out and attack anybody that doesn't want to be a slave and call everybody any submitting That actually paints the target in the media and in the culture That is Jews that run And then there's persecution of Jews and the ADL gets more money But at the end of the day, there are a lot of powerful Jews are in the New World Order Was the middle step there Asian? It's not about what religious or racial group people are it is about Human animal cloning it is about you can age it is about forced abortion It is about sterilizing children

It is a biomedical mad scientist the population tyranny at the top that makes Hitler Look like a lightweight But imagine if the Nazis have been more sophisticated and Attacked for the food and water and culture which they had plans once they took over to do covertly Imagine if they'd hired a leftist Jewish organization to be their front group The Nazis would have won Man all right man. Oh, man. Okay, man. Oh, man. That's that's an intense statement to make This is not political differences with the ADL that he's expressing doesn't feel political at all really. Oh

Boy, you know, you know, sometimes people do that like Logical judo thing where you say something and then they try and twist it and then send it on back to you And then you've you you hear in their head that ha ha. What do you think about that? Every time he says like oh if Jews didn't call people anti-Semitic Nobody would even know Jews were there to be anti-Semitic for I always hear in my head that ha ha. What do you think about that? Dum-dums. Yeah, and you're like, that's insane. You're an insane person. Yeah on its face. It's an outrageously misguided and

Routed in bigotry idea to express. Yes, but yeah, Alex thinks that this is like some kind of a trump card Yeah, I have I have fooled you. You thought words didn't mean good luck getting around my trap Absolutely, it's like a debate team logic trap that he thinks he's sprung and it is not it. No also turns out the ADL run Most of the police Interesting. Yeah, all right. I'm not being an apologist For any of these extremist groups Hmm, whether it be the ADL or the KKK. What about the JP? The difference is the KKK doesn't secretly control much of the police and the Justice Department

They openly controlled much of the police. Well, we're gonna talk about it today But why would they come out and get national archives documents? and then put them out publicly and Say we've been infiltrating right-wing groups and posing as racists who discredit them since We already know that What do you think patriot from this? The ADL but here they are saying we infiltrate groups and then we try to say racist things at press conferences and things To make mainline conservatives look bad. It's a false flag. That's a false flag

This is not at all what the article says nor was reported by Matthew Dalek Who was the guy who wrote about the documents he uncovered, right? Also, it's not from the National Archives, which is a federal agency within the government These documents are from the American Jewish Historical Society, right, right? Alex hasn't read this story and he's just making up details So you end up with this kind of sloppiness and like wish fulfillment. This is what he wants the story to be But it's not yeah to put into sharp focus. What's going on here? There's a historian who wrote about some documents he found in these archives

These documents related to how some members of the ADL took it upon themselves to infiltrate the John Birch Society in the 60s Because they felt that what the JBS stood for was a threat to our democratic system and in turn a threat to populations like Jewish Americans Alex has taken an article that is editorializing on an interview with that historian and is reporting that these documents revealed that the ADL has been Infiltrating these groups and false flagging them by being racist. So the right-wing groups get a bad name Alex is just making that up because he wants it to be true He likes these hate groups but doesn't want the responsibility of publicly accepting that the groups he likes are full of racists and bigots So he pretends that those elements of his world are just fake

To be clear I read this chapter in Dalek's book about the Birch Watchers as they called themselves and nothing Alex is saying is defensible at all Dalek even does concede that some of the tactics the ADL used may have been illegal But that illegality was in the form of spying on members of these right-wing groups Including digging up financial information that they may not have had the right to access Dalek says quote the activities honored by the Birch Watchers were generally neither as nefarious as the society's critics alleged Nor as innocent as its defenders claimed so in the process of their spying They didn't uncover crimes and the meetings weren't full of ravenous bigots

But they documented how quote anti-Semitic and racist ideas and language were endemic to the society from the beginning Before it started courting the wrong kind of attention The society made no attempt to hide its clear ties to out-and-out white supremacists as the Birch Watchers Documented the racism flourished at the top receiving an official sanction that helped legitimize the very notions the society claimed it to test it They spied on and then rely Relayed much of that information that they found to the media in an attempt to give people a picture of who the JBS really was They weren't false flagging anybody One passage in the chapter of Dalek's book really resonated with me

It's talking about the Birchers, but it really is so true of the position Alex exists in as well quote defending a white supremacist in one breath while denouncing white supremacy in the next Underscored the dilemma the society didn't want to alienate more tolerant conservative members or hardliners It feared the critics would use charges of racism to discredit the movement But it wasn't always able to hide its darker impulses and associations Sometimes it was those darker forces that revolted. That's the same kind of bind that Alex finds himself in yeah So anyway, Alex is just lying about this story. I like the idea. I like the idea that like In Alex's mind what happened was in the 60s the ADL

Infiltrated these groups right and then in a certain sense the people who were in those groups stop really caring that much And it's just the ADL who's being racist now Yeah, yeah, it's almost like they've they've just switched roles and the ADL doesn't even know that they're all false flagging Everybody's just a racist now. They don't even understand the John Birch society is just like they're like we want lower taxes. We support Shanghai Shack or whatever, you know, that's that's all they're doing me Why the ADL's coming in and attacking the civil rights movement. That's what makes sense Yeah, okay. Yeah made Gary Allen right communist revolution in the streets about the civil rights Well, that's again. You didn't know that he was undercover as the 80 ADL undercover guy

It turns out the the intellectual underpinnings of everything to do with JBS are an entirely false flag creation of the ADL It's the only way it's the only way to excuse the Flagrant racism and bigotry of the of the John Birch society for sure. Yeah So we got a big headline sure today. Alex hasn't gotten to it yet. It's a it's our Covid narrative of the Boo, you would have thought the Covid conspiracies would be a little bit a little bit passe at this point Yeah, turns out not and they're only getting more extreme. Sure. Let's talk about what the new order really is when come back. Okay, okay In 130 plus US hospitals, there's no whistleblowers documents and recordings coming out, but we already knew this but now it's confirmed

They had a special floor set up in most cases with people that weren't even doctors or nurses, but were technicians Toys in your family can't come see you and then quotas and we know the fifty one thousand dollar bonus for killing somebody But now the insiders are coming out. Think of the organized evil of that. That's the point Can you organize people to kill people in front of everybody and get away with it? I mean people the ADL. I mean, is this really what you want to be part of? I mean, come on, Bill. You're that bad. Wait So wait. Yeah. Wait. I don't know what the ADL has to do with this. Is the ADL involved in this one? No, are you sure this one isn't about AI? No, I don't know what's going on. All right. So this is the new Covid conspiracy that Alex is pushing

Apparently all these hospitals had kill floors as they're going to go on to call them where they would just murder Covid people Presumably to get their hands on that sweet sweet cash. Oh boy 50k for a human life. That's so cheap. It's a steal. Yeah So yeah, like you like you responded to I'm not sure what the ADL is doing involved here It seems kind of like Alex is just on a bit of a tear about the ADL So he's injecting them into every story Probably because his worldview is based on anti-Semitic tropes and yelling about the ADL all the time excites the Darker forces in his audience that helps get them not to revolt Yeah, I mean the if you if the underpinnings of everything you're saying is ultimately anti-Semitic

Yeah, you're you're always being anti-Semitic to some extent or another and this is just a little bit of one for the cheap seats Yeah, yeah, the the bigots back there. Yes. This is not none of this subtle shit. I'm tired of that. I'm going to play it to the cheap seats Yeah, this is throwing a bone bigger bigger So Alex it's been a little while since we've got to hear him ramble over some music and it's a little bit of a We've got to hear him ramble over some music and it's not you belong to the city, but it's going to have to do for now. Okay God is real And only reaching your hands out to the heavens and asking God to come into your cells into your electrochemical systems

And purge you and block you from the enemy's frequency Reach your hands out Like a tree's branches the sun the stars The proof of God's incredible intention And pray Pray for awakening. Yes, it's begun. Okay This is only the start There's something that will lead humanity out of the darkness

To the stars and beyond All right We have attorney. You're gonna let the beat drop and then stop. Oh deal About half the whistleblowers that have blown wide open the gain of function and the criminal projects went through Ren's And he is a man of action He now has the witnesses. He has the recordings. He has the documents

Of what we could see happening. So the kill floor Conspiracy is coming from Tom Ren's Tom Ren. He's a guy who's been on the show before. He's not a real deal At all. Oh, we've talked about him a bit in the past But as a brief recap because I'm sure you don't even remember who this day is Nope, he's the guy who failed the bar four times finally passed just before the pandemic And then decided to make it his brand to do legal stunts and publicity things around covid conspiracies He's been at the center or close to many misadventures over the past few years But because they're all really embarrassing in hindsight, he probably doesn't you know, keep

That doesn't keep track of his resume too precisely Right Also, he was accused by two women of sexually harassing them at a credit union he used to work at and one woman accused Him of touching her breast He's a huge piece of shit who realized that there was an opening in the covid conspiracy world for a lawyer to give total Horse shit the appearance of credibility and he's made a ton of money off of it I went and checked out his twitter and just today as i'm writing this He's suggesting that covid vaccines change your dna in some way similar to hiv and says quote prove me wrong

By the way, that's impossible proves nothing cool Uh I scrolled further down and he tweeted this a couple weeks ago quote Developing this is the most important developing story in the country The covid 19 murder from money scheme in the hospitals appears in many cases to have been carried out by fake doctors and nurses Whoa, okay. Now i'm listening this tweet linked to a posting from the office of the inspector general in the department of health and human services About the 2023 operation nightingale enforcement

This was about a case of Of for uh, it's a it's a diploma scheme where some people were running this out of florida They'd have people pay to get their nursing degree which would then qualify them to take their nursing board exam They would still need to pass that exam to get licensed which uh would weird to think about You could just get a fake degree and then take the test and some people conceivably did still pass the test Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it's almost like a lot of school is uh, you know what we'll leave that Or maybe they they are people who are fairly serious about like doing some studying but didn't have the money for college Yeah, absolutely. Who knows what the specifics of these people are

Um, but yeah, it's very weird. I don't know. I couldn't find information on like a lot of the specific people who bought the diplomas Yeah, uh, you know, obviously the people who um sold them were all arrested sure sure sure sure Um, and actually I was able to find some names of the people because obviously their licenses were revoked And so state by state they had like a number of uh lists of people who it's like, uh, you know Let it be known. Yeah, the licenses revoked or whatever, right? So this didn't involve people being able to fake the credentials to be a fake doctor And there's absolutely no indication where any of these people, uh, who paid for nursing degrees worked Uh, you know, we don't know if they were in hospitals or treating covid patients. No, I don't even know the time frame of when they got these degrees

We also don't know if they had extra special training on uh secret poisons Right, uh, probably hand-to-hand combat training. I imagine. Yeah. Yeah, rands isn't vested in pushing his conspiracy narrative So he just runs with ungrounded speculation on this story while connecting it to his larger narrative It's what scam people do because he's a scam guy. Yeah Rands has been doing this shit for years at this point. He's a guy who makes money off yelling that the government is murdering people under the guise of covet and promising to sue for justice Which he raises money for and then mysteriously never achieves He has the narrative in place and it's just a matter of constantly coming up with supposed bombshells to justify acting like you've got the

Smoking gun this time in this case. It's an audio recording of two people alleged to be a nurse and a pharmacist One of them, uh, it if you just listen to the audio, it's unclear which one of the people it is Sure, uh, it says that they felt that the hospitals were killing patients that Specific doctor had housed on a particular floor because of the way that they were providing care to these covet patients Right, right. All right. This isn't a bombshell and it definitely doesn't justify allegations that hospitals had kill floors for profit Right. It's ridiculous. It's just one person who disagreed Potentially with what was being done as a mo like the standard of care, right, right best That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah, somebody saying that the medical system isn't going great. Yeah, that's uh shocking

Now there is one thing that I think could get really messy here And that is that the doctor who rends is accusing of killing people for profit is named in that video That he posted on twitter That's not good It's all fun and games to yell about how unspecified doctors are killing patients for profit But when the allegation is directed toward a specific person, you might just be entering into defamatory territory Uh, you better hope that dr. Stiegel doesn't hear about this and decide that they don't like being called a murderer is uh

You know what and actually as you go through this like he's clear Who the nurse is or who the pharmacist is who's his whistleblower in heavy quotes? Oh boy And where she worked and all this so it'd be very easy for this person to be like This is very clearly making an accusation about me. Yeah, my uh care that I gave Yeah, um, I think that they could sue the shit out of these people. Yeah, I think we're gonna become a pipeline for defamation lawsuits people Hey, just listen to our show and see if you're gonna have the right to sue somebody in the right wing

If you work Ascension hospital. Yeah, one of the ascension hospital system Um, uh, it's particularly those in birmingham, alabama. I believe but also like conceivably all Ascension hospitals are being accused in this. Yeah Um, and so like you all might have grounds to sue alex and especially tom rands There's a little bit. There's a little bit of like, uh, have you had have you had mesothelioma aspect of it? Like have you been defamed? We are becoming a late night lawyer ad

Yeah Also, rems was recently a guest on dr. Drew's show which is just further evidence that my parents were accidentally right when they told me I shouldn't be listening to wow What a fall what a fuck for everybody. Yeah for all of us. I wonder what anderson the engineer is up to these days Can't be good, right? Can't be that must have been a curse was laid upon them at some point That's because boy independently to choose terrible trying to think of like Like regular guests that they had who might have come out okay

Patton oswald was on a bit sure dana gould was sure sometimes those guys are all right Those guys like that alt comedy scene, you know, doug benson was on there. Was he I don't remember him being on Loveline, but you may have been at least not in the years that I was listening Uh, I remember hearing him talk about it. I didn't listen to him. So the vandals were a bit the band the vandals Right the didn't have they gone evil? I don't know. I don't know what they've done since Anytime you say any name from something. I remember. I'm like, oh, they're probably evil now. Are you an ant farm? They're definitely evil. They're for sure evil. They were on the line Lincoln park was on pretty regularly and they seem pretty cool. They were they were uh semi regular guests sure sure

I remember one episode where the darkness uh the darkness I believe in a thing called love Yeah, band. Yeah, they uh walked out after like the first uh segment sure Um, because they thought it was going to be like an interview about the band And then it was people calling in like kids calling in with problems. Yeah, and they were just really uncomfortable There's just a bunch of british dudes who are like, we don't belong here. What are you doing rock band? We're we're what what are we doing? Yeah, the adam and the rest of the show making fun of us to children on a fucking talk show Okay. Yeah, yeah, Henry Rollins was on a bit. Uh, yeah, he's he I mean aside from his work on Legend of Korra I think he's done. I think he's got a gold weight. Uh, oh bobcats the best. Yeah

Still the best love bobcat Hmm I want to go hunt, but I want to go hunt bigfoot with bobcat. Anyway, love line bad times. Yeah Oh, don't go back. I can't I can't keep thinking of these memories. Don't go back So anyway, it turns out there were 139 hospitals that had kill floors 139 too many too many Australia, New Zealand, western Europe. I'm getting chills right now. This is so horrible the uk canada of the us Took men women and children

Oh, don't fake crying and the computers will tell them who to hit And they would take them to special floors at 130 plus hospitals in the us alone Kill floors is what they're called By whom and they would then put them on ventilators even when they didn't need it almost every case And put them on enough drugs to kill them We even have right before they released covid the massive stockpiling in these different countries and news articles about it of the drugs

To do the killing we get into some of that a little bit later I don't really have much to say about this other than it's nonsense I only wanted to play this clip to demonstrate where we're at with the covid conspiracies Apparently now the globalists cooked up a bio weapon that they plan to release on people that really wasn't that bad of a virus Right They plan to pretend that it was a bad virus and a big deal so they could force everyone to get vaccinated and part of that I guess involved planning to have these kill floors and hospitals right where patients would go and be given treatments The doctors knew would kill them in order to exacerbate the hysteria around covid and trick more people into getting vaccinated

Sure The globalists wanted everyone to get vaccinated because the vaccines secretly were another bio weapon and they're going to kill Off most of the population wait, that's where it falls. Also. Apparently doctors were getting paid to murder patients. Well, sure What are we doing? I mean, I don't know it all makes perfect sense, man You know it once you get to 130 plus, you know Then then my head starts doing math and I'm like, what do you what do you how many people you got on each floor? What are you talking about timeline? Also? How is it? How is it that I can read a consistent story about?

States with the death penalty not being able to find the drugs necessary to kill people Is it because they're fucking giving them to hospitals in 130 plus places in the United States? That must be it, right? Yeah, and it's 139 Because there are 139 Well, yeah, they would have to be yeah, I'd have to be all the 139 in that network Did they build them from the beginning or did they like re retrofit their hospitals for the kill floors? You know, I think they probably had to do an addition. They had another floor. Yeah, that would make sense You can't repurpose a other floor see now. That's that's where you find that's where you pull the thread the general contractors

Who put together the kill floors? That's the people that you talk to follow the money, Dan Yeah, yep. Do you see Soros with a hard hat? Jimmy Carter So Alex, uh, he's got all the proof man, but he doesn't And they have already corrupted thousands of hospitals around the world to be part of a Protocol and operation to bring in fake nurses and doctors That's why they closed the hospitals Wouldn't let staff in

To the other areas they use the more high-tech modern hospitals where it's all badge controlled They already set it up before covid was released in 2019 a year before They already drilled and then they set the precedent drilled data test To conservatively kill Around 500,000 people with this method worldwide

Around half of those in the united states We have all the documents all the proof we'll be covering it in the second hour But just let let let that sink in. I'm I'm it's sunk in and you're full of shit, but also He has all of the evidence all of the documents. It's gonna be in the second hour. That is the standard I am going to hold him to yes, and he fails. Yeah, obviously Oh, of course He has nothing Nothing. Oh boy. He has an asshole named tom who comes in and talks shit

That's that's not good really don't like this guy tom I'm sensing that you have some animosity towards him. Oh god. I hate him Really really like arch Fucking asshole in terms of infowars folks. Yeah real real piece of work. What kind of documents could you have? Also 250,000 it doesn't seem high enough, right? Well, it would be 250,000 at those 139 hospitals presumably, right? Sure now that seems like too many. Well, I mean no, I mean for the globalist plan for the overarching globalist plan, right?

I feel like 250,000 is a drop in the bucket of their their murder hole You know what I'm saying? But that's because the vaccines are the real murder weapon, right? This is just trying to convince people with fear in order to get vaccinated. Oh boy So that part is no, but that this right mean that if it's like 139 hospitals You're assuming that like 17,000 people died at each of these hospitals. Yeah, we're murdered at each of these hospitals Don't say die. Yeah, we're murdered. I think that's a little much. Oh boy. Those are big big kill floors. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, those are avatars They've got people walking in and pushing them. Yeah, the point is this is dumb

Um, so we got some more dumb stuff though. They did it as a plan to see if they get away with it and could they lock us in our houses And would the police attack us and take us to jail? We left our houses Could they then push a poison shot on us that all the studies show and what top scientists warned beforehand would happen Massive cancer increase New scientists report cancer mystery as cases rise among younger people around the world And we have the list of countries. It's all the countries that took the Moderna And flies were shots the biggest two-year increase in history massive. They said it's absolutely

devastating Cancer and young people is up multi thousand percentage points Okay Starting to get the picture here What alex is saying sounds like it could be contained in an article with the headline quote cancer mystery as cases rise among younger people Around the world sure that headline sounds like it could involve a huge spike in the past two years of cancer cases and young people Could but alex is just making that up This article says in the first paragraph quote for three decades

There's been a gradual rise in the number of people under 50 being diagnosed with cancer and we don't entirely know why So it's not just the last two years and it's gradual rise right there from from like the all the times Hmm. Yeah, this article does single out bowel cancer, which has risen about 50 percent in people between the ages of 24 And 49 in the uk since the 90s. Sure. It's a large increase But again, it's not related to covet like alex is clearly saying yeah This trend with bowel cancer is similar in the united states canada australia south korea and quote several european countries Including sweden finland and the netherlands According to the new scientist article that is the list of countries that they they see this trend in looks like all the ones

And probably more Moderna and the Pfizer and nobody else took those vaccines at all No, but those are countries that have approved those Moderna and Pfizer shots, but they also have non mrna vaccines that are available Yeah, no, it doesn't make sense and this is a trend that's been going on since the 90s There are a number of possible explanations that are offered in this article if alex wanted to read it things like diet shift sedentary lifestyles and the prevalence of antibiotic use, but there isn't a definite answer that's given alex has a definite answer though because he's allowed to just make shit up And his audience doesn't expect him to do any better

He sounds like a fucking middle schooler bluffing a report he didn't prepare for when he says cancer is up multi thousand percentage points I think we would know well in advance before alex multi thousand percent if if cancer had gone up multi thousand percent I would not hear about it from alex first The bowel cancer over 30 years 50 percent increases a giant right that's huge like think about it this way If if it was going on like if the news dropped that there was a multi thousand percent increase On the exact moment that you were listening to alex say it like you could not find it anywhere else faster Because you were in the exact moment of listening to him find out, right? You could conceivably hear about it first from alex

It would be impossible for me to not find out a multi thousand percent increase in cancer had gone on In my age bracket In the real world that spike has not happened and generally speaking the rates of most cancers have been Trending downward and even more downward is like deaths from cancer right trend downward somewhat so It seems like alex is just 180 degrees wrong seems like all of modern life is made up of stuff that gives you cancer sooner or later So alex complains some more about the adl because it seems like what he wants to do today. Yep Um, but he has an interesting thought and that is like look

Fuck the adl, but we can't be like yay And then he starts complaining about his interview with yay. Okay, it's really really sad. All right. This makes sense Does anybody feel safe rolling over to these people? No every cell in my body my instincts my soul says We have got to admit we have a global corporate takeover of ad scientist and we have to peacefully dismantle it But we cannot play their games because these eugenicists super nazis Have hired leftist groups like the adl to be their front. We have to transcend that and not become kanye west Do I'm not attacking? But obviously

Has been sucked into the paradigm Or who knows because there's tax issues you might be working for and I'd be threatened to put him in jail If he doesn't go around and try to set people up Like he did that day sitting around here in the chair next to me But I saw that coming a mile away. Oh my god You fuck my wife said good six. She said don't do the interview. It's a setup I said, I know it's a setup sweetheart Don't call

You make me uncomfortable I love everybody. Oh my god. I love the muslims. I love the jews. I love the christians I love the animus. I love the agnostics and the atheist I really don't want to see us all destroyed together. I really don't want to see this planetary collapse in hell world But no matter what they say or do or how they persecute us We have to tell the truth and never stop. Well, you don't Um, but it's so goddamn funny to imagine that this is alex's own self-perception. Yeah, it's so Uh distorted from reality that he was talking to his wife and like honey. Don't worry. I mean, I know it's a trap

I'm not gonna fall into any of it. He was he was making his own traps. I know he was he was excited to Yeah, he was so thrilled to have like a big celebrity interview. You're so famous. Yeah, it was it was a bad idea That doesn't make it a trap. Yeah It's just you're dumb. Can I just you took a risk and it blew up in your face Even for us. Uh-huh even for us. All right Can I just say that I did not ever expect to hear that? Super Nazis were using the ADL and in order to combat that we can't be like yay Right, that is a mad live. That is an absurd statement. Yeah, even for us. Okay

It's it's a combination of words that most people would look at like I don't get it. No, I can't I can't understand Is there some sort of puzzle? Is there some I know what all the words mean, but the together they I've never been unable to speak English before So, uh, Alex is talking about the murders in the hospitals and what have you and how they do this stuff And then because you go along with it You're part of it and you go along with it because if you don't the institutions all are gonna collapse And you're afraid of that happening so you go along and then everything gets corrupted. That makes sense Yeah, and so he talks about that and then he makes up a bunch of bullshit. Okay. There was a national post article 10 years ago or so

And it was written by the editorial board That's the biggest paper in Canada. They said look our top professors have looked at 9-11 and clearly It was an inside job building seven was blown up top professors and That were on staff but you know, they went on to say that clearly they were aided and this was allowed to happen And there was other projects piggybacked on it. They said this will bring down the entire liberal system That's the whole world system bigger republican democrat if we let this come out And again, they think we're animals, so they're writing in the editorial pages Of the editorial board of the paper

That yeah, we know it's an inside job, but we have to suppress it because the 9-11 treatment got so powerful The first 10 years after That it was unseeing the whole system And see it's the same methodology when you get people That I personally know Whose mother or father or brother or sister Would go in with a bad cough and trouble breathing and they wouldn't give them drugs wouldn't give them permission to just go home Take some aspirin and when they couldn't breathe they'd come back and put them on a ventilator and there was same thing in every western country

on average The equivalent of $53,000 to put somebody on a ventilator another 12 grand if they died That's not enough money systems were getting more than $60,000. That's not a lot No matter where you were it was the same in the uk same in australia same here Same program same bill. Oh, you can't see your loved one Well, they weren't letting the nurses and doctors that normally worked there. They were telling them Oh, we're not doing regular care right now at these key hospitals. Remember? Oh, the hospital's closed You'd go there. No cars are there, but they show you. Oh, it's so busy

There's people in hazmat crews and you don't come to the hospital. We can't do that elective surgery We can't even see people that had heart attacks. Remember they had messages. You know covid's so bad the hospitals are so overwhelmed Orders went out all over the world Do not resuscitate some of the heart attack to an ambulance because we don't have the staff because they sent them home At most the major big hospitals for the first six months. Remember this And said and you can't see your loved ones either Because they were murdering people and setting that precedent To turn hospitals into pure straight-up death camps. We'll document it all next hour

It's gonna document all of that all of that. Yeah, that's a lot of documents probably too much probably for him to even try to I think he's already I know he has a lot of stackys, but you can need way more So just to get this out of the way really quick Sure The national post editorial board did not come out and say that 9 11 was an inside job But they needed to cover it up so the structures of the world order would be wouldn't be toppled that would be a real weird one That's nonsense and the editor of that paper actually wrote a book called quote among the truthers Which is critical of 9 11 conspiracy theories

Actually, the full title of that book is quote among the truthers a journey into the growing conspiracist underground of 9 11 truthers birthers armageddonites vaccine hysterics Hollywood know-nothings and internet addicts. Wow that that's like a perfect venn diagram at the middle of that is alex Yeah, and it gives you a sense of the tone. Yeah in preparing for his book this editor jonathan k Interviewed alex so alex has likely cobbled together misremembered fragments of that and turned it into this Editorial page of the national post publishing that they knew 9 11 was an inside job, but they were insistent on covering it up It's a load of shit. Yeah his his game of telephone happens with his memories and his brain. Yeah, and whiskey. Yeah Next point

I've never seen alex present a case of someone who was healthy put on a ventilator and then died because of the ventilator This is something that's become solidified as rampant during the early days of the pandemic in alex's mind and in their conspiracy Uh information space, but it's never more specific than vague anecdotes alex is just making up That all these countries were paying hospitals to put people on ventilators different countries have different healthcare systems So this doesn't even make sense the conspiracy is based off a willful misrepresentation of the amount that medicare compensated hospitals for providing specific care that original conspiracy didn't include bonus payments if people die. So I guess that maybe has been Uh dug up and figured out since then. I think they added that one for fun

I probably just missed that post on steve kersh's dumbass sub-stack probably this is an old conspiracy that is complete bullshit But I guess alex wants to hold on to it so he can get some more use out of it alex is really fudging details about the early days of the pandemic here too They weren't telling nurses not to come in if anything they were telling everybody to come in and stay forever Yeah, you remember when people were banging pots and pans for the healthcare workers and stuff alex and info wars tried to get on board with the hot conspiracy narrative at the time about hospitals secretly not being full But even paul joseph watson told alex to stop it and said that it was like sandy hook all over again Yeah, orders did not go out to not

Orders didn't go out to not resuscitate people who had heart attacks all over the world I'm not sure about places like Uh, some areas in like italy or something where they were like localized really severe Uh, circumstances, so I don't want to I'm I'm gonna only say this about the united states that this did not happen Sure, alex is exaggerating this based on a new york post article about uh, new york telling emt's uh to not risk exposure By tending to people who've had a heart attack Part of this is due to the nature of how you have to attempt to resuscitate people in that state Part of it had to do with ppe shortages early on in the pandemic and another part of it was likely due to the fact that

Survival rate for out-of-hospital cardiac arrest cases is approximately five percent according to the american journal of emergency medicine I'm not going to defend uh new york's decision here But it is worth noting that this policy was announced on april 21st 2020 and was rescinded on april 22nd 2020 Okay mere hours later. Great. You definitely wouldn't understand this context from just listening to alex's foggy memory embellished shit All this is nonsense and it doesn't match reality But it matches the feeling that alex's audience has about reality This feels like how things are so alex is amping that feeling up and using that feeling to feed into his current narrative That the hospitals were death camps with kill floors. Yeah

Good luck documenting all this though. That should be that should be a A bit that'll be tough. I quite a quite a task. I feel like this is just an inappropriate Understanding of value, you know like I'm I'm a year salary is not enough to kill me You know like I you got to figure that it's it's a 10 year at least like I I would say that 10 year Productivity aside maybe half a million for a human being well. Here's but not 50k Come on. You could find somebody to kill somebody for 50k probably I would assume like I think that they're you know, I don't know what the going rate is on the dark Way, but that's like that's that's your mom and pop murder. That's not your government globalist murder

That's also a very specific kind of thing where you're hiring somebody as an assassin People who are in the medical field are often pretty well paid. Yeah, uh people in the medical fields Generally have a care for patients almost a calling. Yeah Yeah Getting them to override that. Yeah, and kill people for money. The number one Is ridiculous that that that like oath thing that they take, you know, I mean it just sort of plays on ideas to have like, uh, the Mercy killing. Yeah. The angels of death kind of nurse thing Yeah, those people like the the few cases

Of that that has happened gives like some sort of a credibility to this picture in people's minds They're like, oh, yeah, they could doctors could be convinced. I mean 50 grand to kill anybody Anytime you you're like at your weakest and somebody else has full power over your life or death Of course, you're gonna be uh, simple like uh, uh susceptible to that Also, uh, why did they stop at the amount of people they killed? Why didn't they kill way more people if it was just a matter of they ran out of 50k's I don't know about this. They didn't have any more 50k bills. It doesn't make any sense. Oh my god So anyway, alex is making gigantic claims

Through the biomedical complex And under you in direction not regular you've been directed by bill gates's combine the carning endowment the cia They openly Cleared the hospitals kicked out the regular staff at key facilities and murdered people in each nation. It's all coming up big claims Now I'm gonna ask the fbi. I'm gonna ask school teachers. I'm gonna ask auto mechanics. I'm gonna ask pastors I'm gonna ask name five more jobs

southern party law center The republican party the democratic party black people white people oh six seven eight nine ten Do you understand this is all real? Okay? People ask why I don't have any fear Because we are in an ocean of evil and we're all gonna be destroyed if we don't stop this No, it's because you're making it up. Yeah, it's because it's all bullshit. Yeah, that's why you're not afraid Yeah, you're not afraid because you're super rich and you're making shit up to scare people Uh, so they give you more more money. Yeah, that's why you're not afraid because you're highly insulated from the problems

You're creating right and uh, you don't give a shit. Yeah, and you're a bad person The only thing you're afraid of is losing all of your money. Yeah, yeah Which you're very afraid of that for good reason There's pretty decent chance that your greatest fears are going to be realized. Yeah. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, that's tough It's a little bit like a meteor headed to earth. Hmm. Yeah So, uh, we get to talking more about this jbs story and it's all a load of shit I'm gonna link to it out of the live show feed so everybody can share it But you need to go read it. You need to go get it. You need to see the dios yourself

Why the ADL and some of their scholars and others are very proud and want you to know Since the 60s they infiltrated populist quote right wing groups And posed as racist at public events to discredit the groups like the patriot front And they broke into police stations and did so much more and they want you to know that they're an intelligence agency working with the CIA and FBI. It's all the article. They want you to know To stop Nazis from taking over and killing jews

Oh, so you've got to take all our rights and spy on us and infiltrate us and say we're racist And lie about us So the tyrants don't take over No, you're creating an atmosphere that'll destroy everybody What I'm not an apologist for jews or anybody else, but they're individuals. You know, this is going on No, they believe the hype that they're being persecuted just like black people think why he's out to get them Oh boy, all those are out to get everybody. Yeah

Oh boy tough tough to tough to Find the right words to respond to that shit yikes yikes So i'm just gonna jump to talking about the article. Yeah, yeah because that flagrant uh The nonsense at the end is uh, I mean honestly listening to somebody say something like that makes me feel like whitey's out to get me ADL is convincing these jewish people of the hype. I don't trust whitey. I don't trust whitey So alex is making shit up that he wants to be true about this article, but his coverage doesn't match reality at all First problem There aren't any documents for you to see for yourself

That is a travel the article is based on an interview with that historian Matthew Dalek. He reviewed documents in the process of writing this book But these documents themselves aren't in the article. Also. It's not the adl's scholars right or something I but yeah second problem. It's not about the adl constantly and consistently infiltrating every right wing group the last 60 years It's about the jbs in the late 50s and 60s Third problem birchwatchers did often pretend to be racist so they could fit in with the other members of the jbs But there's no indication of a single person who pretended to be racist in order to cause a scene to make the jbs look bad From reading that chapter in Dalek's book and reading as much jbs material as I have No one needed to make them look bad or bigoted. They took care of that themselves like on purpose and for fun

Oh, yeah, yeah, fourth problem the adl in quote their scholars Whatever that's supposed to mean aren't reporting this story because they're proud of anything. It doesn't even make any sense It doesn't mean anything Dalek's book came out a couple months ago and a jewish news outlet interviewed him about the intersection of the adl and the john birch society Who his book is mostly about the adl is only covered in one chapter of the book, right? Fifth problem just about everything else in that clip is nonsense with a real bad ending. Yeah real bad. Yeah Yeah, I think I would I think it's so he's making a bad sell I think I would like the adl a lot more if I knew that they were also an undercover operation and have been doing this for like 60 years

That's cool. I mean, maybe maybe not Good or evil or whatever it is, but I don't I don't think that it is outside of the realm of possibility That some people associated with adl May have made inroads to try and infiltrate certain Extremist groups. I mean some of our friends have done that right For good reason. I don't think it's entirely impossible, but pretending that it's like some kind of a covert Agency working with the cia. Yeah, all that is it's a little it's a little well It's not supported by the material that alex is presenting as documentation. Yeah, the least believable thing is that a

Secret organization would not be secret or would be secret for longer than 60 years And also, uh, be like a write an article about how we do all the secret stuff Totally. Oh, they want to be proud of working with the cia. What what are you talking about? So because alex is so focused on the adl He does kind of drift into a little bit of these these types of tropes like uh, uh, Jewish people are attacking white people kind of stuff great You need to go read this article and read these documents, but this is from them and you go Why is that apple? They said well now we're going to save you on the big stage

With the fbi and cia publicly with tv ads saying watch your neighbors. You can't trust white people That's what hitler did to the jews. He ran newsreel news articles and speeches that they were a secret evil group And that had to be exterminated And now the adl is saying they've got to come after all of us and sasha co barron But two three years ago at their anal meeting said arrest zuckerberg he doesn't sense everybody and arrest alex jones Wow, that's so friendly and nice of you So again, there aren't any documents here and the adl didn't put anything out a guy who was interviewed about a book

About the jbs that he wrote now because making up a huge attack on white people out of it Yeah, also amazing the power that sasha barron cohen has uh seeing as neither of the things that he wanted to happen have happened I guess neither of the things that he wanted to happen according to alex. Yeah have happened Yeah, and alex knows exactly what he's doing here. There's classic anti-semitic narratives They almost always involve uh kernel and in a foundation of jewish people being out to destroy white people Yeah, alex may as well be just throwing red meat to the like neo nazi adjacent community I mean this is it's it's a little bit ridiculous Your argument is always going to be uh, yeah, but white people are the real blank

You know like what name whatever name whatever Oppressed group that there are that are being oppressed by a white structure and white people are going to be like Ah, but white people are the real right right alex alex will be like the globalists are got to get us all We got to put our divisions aside, but also the white people the real people Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, that's totally I wonder why this this bill that keeps trans people from existing in a state But that but white people are the real trans people. So so I've often talked about um How alex and his dad are john birch society Fuck heads. Yeah, and alex's household that he grew up in is clearly just infested with john birch society ideology and material

Yeah, um, and this is something that people have pushed back on i've gotten some uh Uh, reporters, let's say uh, who uh, who have said uh, hey, uh I don't know. I don't know if he's that you know, john birch. You know, he's got some ideas But I don't know if he's that I like it when people step to you. I think it's smart. I think it's a smart thing to do all right The john birch society was 100 dead on They were shocked. They were found nearby Trying to be handed over to the communists

They investigated and found out that our government was funding Authoritarianism worldwide They discovered that the writings of the cfr and bill de berg group and other organizations to bring in world government to control both parties And other parties other nations and they were effectively educating people And they said get out of the vietnam war in the mid sixties So they got infiltrated and here's the atl So How they infiltrated them how they demonized them how they lied about them how they committed crimes against them

And how they've done it ever since to everybody else and how good they are I've been saying this for a while. So it's nice for alex to just stop pretending to be something more than what he actually is Just an idiot who read jbs books as a kid. Yep. He's not some dude who's done mountains of research into how the supposed new world order operates He's a lazy angry asshole who read shit by scousin and gary allen and g edward griffin and then made it his personality For real though. It's time to pay the fiddler. Alex says that the jbs was right about everything. So Now, I guess alex thinks that eisenhower was a communist was an avowed communist. Yeah, I guess he has to now be explicitly opposed to civil rights Alex should probably also stop pretending to admire martin luther king jr. Since the jbs called him a communist agitator Was trying to provoke a race war. Yeah

Fuck out of here alex. Yeah, you can't do that. I mean you can't well You have to own the implications of of your That's the problem. That's the problem and it is disgusting that people are allowed to be like Okay, yes, I agree with this 100% But only the bits and parts that I choose right and everything that I would have to take responsibility for that I tacitly support and give Active active support too. Uh, yeah. Yeah. No, that's not me. That's not me. That's not the organization man That's not how it works. Oh, unfortunately. It is. Oh, yeah

So alex gets lost in uh, sort of rambling about how the adl is evil. Sure Um, and then just sort of takes a little bit of a ride So they got infiltrated and here's the adl How they infiltrated them how they demonized them how they lied about them how they committed crimes against them And how they've done it ever since to everybody else and how good they are Yeah, given Arnold Schwarzenegger awards when he says he loves hitler Giving When he says the best time of his life is working for hitler you guys are evil

And I know you know, you're evil. You like it. You think you're on the winning team If you study history and if you look how things are going You're going to kill us all I have no desire I to be at war with you guys, but let me just explain something to you We have run the tables on you Wait, so you think you're on the winning team Videos of bill gates get tens of millions of views and have hundreds of thousands of comments you have to read for hours Before you find one comment that's pro

Bill Gates YouTube has spoken It's the same thing for soros. It's the same thing for all of you guys. Oh shit You've lost But you're going to keep escalating and you're in attempt to keep control and anybody can tell you That when an immovable object comes into Contact when a stop will force there's a hydrogen explosion I there's a nuclear bomb

This is going to destroy everything this is this is insane when I hear stuff like this like I like Legitimately my only reaction is grow up. Yeah, like I we have won because of youtube comments. Wow Wow Cool, man. Yeah, you guys just think you're on the winning team. Not like me. I'm on the winning team. Are you 50? What are we doing? What are we doing? I act like a goddamn grown-up and then there's just the idea of like, uh, we're we already won So if you keep fighting, then you're gonna kill everybody

That's not us winning Yeah I mean, I'm just still caught up in the youtube comments. Yeah, that's that. I just can't I can't breathe with that Yeah, I can't I mean you said it before but it's it's it's The idea of saying it once is really pathetic But then being something that's brought up multiple times and kind of Fairly consistently as evidence that you're winning some sort of battle. Yeah is boy boy

I don't know well because if you say it one time Maybe you're just talking shit If you say it repeatedly then I know for a fact you have sat at your little computer And scrolled your little mouse wheel. That's what he says. He does down and down. He said he spends hours looking at these youtube comments Oh my god Disgusting. Yeah, real sad. So I told you at the beginning of the show that alex was uh, gonna take a little transformation Yeah, it happens here. Okay. So ren's has shown up. We're beginning the second hour and alex is Totally different. Okay. So he had to go to the bathroom

He had to say hello to the baby changing station Uh, and then he comes right on back. I feel like that might be the case. Okay There's a lot going on with covid. I'm gonna get updates on all the other lawsuits and things in a moment But let's drill into the ventilators. I mean, we know family couldn't visit They kicked the rest of staff out same policy worldwide bounties to put people on ventilators We know the drugs were killing them. They knew it said don't give to someone on a ventilator So they stockpiled it ahead of time. I mean all that proves it was a conspiracy We could convict any of them with just that evidence, but now you've got the big pharmacist groups. Everybody

They know what's on the indications that they know what they've been told Lay this out for us Yeah, so let me start with this from the law, right? And I want people to understand how So that you don't think that this is an accident or a one-off I want you to understand the way the law worked on this. We legislated hospital murder factories. Whoa So you can tell a little bit of a pressure behind alex's speech. She's uh quite speaking a lot quicker What's the words per minute you think? Oh, it's different a little different So nothing alex just said could convict anyone

Nor does it even point in any way towards a conspiracy If this conspiracy is true, then there was this grand plan to put people on ventilators and give them some medication to kill them Uh, if that's true, then why did the ratio of covid patients receiving treatment including ventilators? Why was it so low and why did it drop pretty much consistently as the pandemic went on? This is an opportunistic exploitation alex and ren's are engaging in where there is a fact Which is that people who had covid and were treated with a ventilator had a higher death rate than would have been expected The explanation for this fact is pretty simple Covid cases where a ventilator is necessary are going to be the more severe cases with patients in more deadly situations

And regardless of why you're using a ventilator you run the risk of being exposed to a secondary infection These are not complicated things to understand But instead of accepting reality alex and ren's glom onto these deaths and use this tragedy for their own enrichment and to propel their Conspiracy worldview the higher rates of death among people who are on ventilators was because there was a concerted plan from the government To kill citizens for vaganiferious reasons and doctors went along with it and killed their patients Because they wanted the 50 000 dollars from medicare reimbursement 50k this is stupid shit and these people are not only worth not taking seriously they're worthy of derision there are people who are unfit for polite society and

They're willing to dance around with these stolen corpses for profit to fuck these people Yeah, just to show my work here is alex specifying what drug he's talking about when he says they're put on ventilators Of all these drugs. All right, this is from a little bit earlier. It gets worse remember what happened in the uk they got a stockpile of a drug that's used to put people under an anesthesia And they would kill them with that knowing that if you give somebody even a small amount of this they can't breathe

number of prescriptions for the drug Madazzle plan double dearing heights of the pandemic and right before the end of the plan The uk government ordered the biggest stockpile ever of it And it goes on from there just goes on so to be clear alex is alleging the whole narrative here Is that 139 us hospitals had kill floors where they would put covid patients on ventilators and give them these sedatives And i'm guessing that that it based on what he's saying that is how the right mechanics of the murder The logistics. Yeah, and so he's propping this up with a story about prescriptions going up for a sedative in the uk And the uk stockpiling it doesn't make sense. Yeah, but also this conspiracy just doesn't work

There was a large increase in prescriptions for uh medazolam in april 2020 in the uk But this was a specific type of prescription This was out of hospital prescriptions. So it was being it was not being given at all to people on ventilators Right. No one has a vet. They're not on a ventilator outside of a hospital setting and these prescription increases were out of hospital prescriptions Right. No one knows exactly for sure But the prevailing theory is that this was for elderly people who were in a lot more pain right uh due to covid and uh that the

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Some theories have floated around about assisted suicide But nothing has been established on that and there's no evidence uh to prove it Yeah, the claim that the uk had the largest ever stockpile of medazolam is something alex is just taking from david eich In reality the uk did have a stockpile of it as they did of many medications Yeah, that's you keep a stockpile of shit. You know, you might need it. Yeah, it's nonsense. You just took it from david eich a bunch of bullshit So, um, yeah alex says they have the information to convict people. Yeah, and this is what he's swinging out with It's low to shit. I like ren's. I like ren's jumping on to that with with a nice little like

Let's start with the law, you know, like he sounds like charlie day Describing how to be a lawyer. He's like as a lawyer. It's a specialist in law. Let's go back to the legislation was made by When you're dealing with the law, it's best to talk about the law. Yeah The law is the law. Oh my god It does not sound like someone who failed the bar four times and became a lawyer just before covid and has been scamming covid Shit, that's that sounds more right. Yeah And national center for vital statistics the cvc the hhs all these people all along They say listen

If you're coughing if you've got any symptoms of covid we want you to call it covid If you've got it, it doesn't matter what it is if it's covid if it could possibly be covid We want you to diagnose covid and if you diagnose it as covid. That's fine And you'll get a bonus if you don't die and i'm starting to work it back you up Remember zero flu in all these countries for those years because they were calling flu that and killing them. Sorry go ahead Yeah, yeah, well, you got it. You got an incentive, right? You got extra money to call it covid But if you didn't call it covid you were going to get a call from the government saying why are you not listing these people as covid They say well, what are the symptoms and the symptoms for covid and the flu were identical by the way

They were indistinguishable. I I've put the side by side up before they're indistinguishable The symptoms may be indistinguishable to you tom wrens You're not a doctor A whole lot of conditions share symptoms often with some pretty heavy overlap But that doesn't mean they're the same thing So if you've got fatigue a fever sore throat swollen lymph nodes, well, you might have mono or it might be strep throat Strap is short for streptococcus, which is a bacteria whereas mono is mononucleosis Which is caused by a virus like epstein bar. So they're treated entirely differently because one's a virus one's bacteria

But oh man swollen lymph nodes fatigue fever. Those are also symptoms of lymphoma You can have a lot of different things is what I'm saying with a fairly similar set of symptoms Well, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna take what he said and the first I'm gonna start with the law Okay, now for uh, uh law purposes if you were to Uh, tell somebody to lie at their job and that you will give them bonus money for it All right, legally speaking That's totally fine. Yeah

Yet these accusations are on a hundred percent have to be 100 percent It wouldn't be if it's just the standard vague bullshit they talk about but they're being very specific You're saying that these people were paid to commit fraud and murder specific people specific people There's a name in the video that you released. We're giving thousands of dollars to commit fraud and murder. Yeah. Yeah, okay I think the murder is maybe the worst of the two. I I would agree with that But at least uh, you know, yeah, also there was plenty of flu It just it feels like there wasn't because of the way Alex has covered stuff and the lies that he's told But it's it's it's bullshit. There was a lot of flu this this conversation too

Like if there was I feel like I should be able to get a doctor who just is like well medically speaking and then he goes Well legally speaking and then we can all just leave and they can just talk to each other in like an endless Back-and-forth nonsense. I think that's a good way to to freeze him in a sort of stasis The 2020 flu season goes from september 2020 to may 2021 It was a light season and that's obviously because people were staying home and wearing masks and shit Yeah, but these people Alex and Ren's they're more talking about the previous season And that at about 36 million cases of the flu and that's a low-end estimate So, all right, I mean there was plenty during that time when they were saying everyone was just being they said they had

Covid in the kelvin. Yeah. Yeah, it was just it was a load of shit Yep. So anyway, we get to the discussion of Ren's is Supposed whistleblower here and man, there is just nothing here You know, we've been working on gathering the data because we have to show willfulness Well, so I get a call from from a wonderful lady and she doesn't really want to be public I mean her name's public because she's filed a lawsuit and it's public record But she's asked me to speak for her publicly because she is she first of all she wants to make sure she's not saying anything That's going to damage her lawsuit and second of all

Uh, she wants to make sure that uh She's not looking for fame or fortune She just she's a mama five. She's got a phd in pharmacy Stanford educated one of the one of the most quality qualified pharmacists I've ever ran across I mean the woman is a brilliant pharmacist And what does that mean? Her name is adrini and uh, she is she comes for that. She says listen. I you know, uh I'm a pharmacist. I had worked in clinical trials with big pharmacist another I wanted to get back into patient care went back into that And uh, well, I was at the hospital working during covid

You know, I was looking at the drugs they were using and I felt that their protocols created an opportunity to hasten death Now hasten death is a uh, it's a term that's used but don't legally speaking Uh, if I shoot you in the head, I'm hastening your death, right? Uh, it's a polite way as no killing someone Yeah, it doesn't matter how you hasten death hasting death is still killing someone, right? So she says, you know, they wanted me to sign off on these protocols that I thought were going to hasten death Or that had the potential to cause death and said another I said, well, okay She said well, I applied for a religious exemption because I didn't think that was right and they ended up firing her and retaliating against her

So I want you to understand what I just said Alex in plain terms You got a a phd super high-end quality educated pharmacist What does that mean? As credentialed as anybody on the planet In a hospital says to the hospital your policies Could result in patients dying Can I have an exemption from supporting these policies? And instead of the hospital saying oh my god, they could we need to change these policies or at least reevaluate them

Instead the hospital fires her and retaliates This is a nice story for wrens to tell but it isn't proof of anything Tom and this woman adrini smith are in serious danger of getting the shit sued out of them It's pretty easy to track down the hospital. She worked at and they're making direct claims about that hospital and specific doctors who practice there She has an opinion that these protocols for treatment weren't appropriate, but that doesn't seem like it justifies accusing these doctors of having murder Factories set up does seem a little bit like an escalation. Oh, yeah That's sensationalist bullshit peddled by a hack lawyer who knows that unless he keeps dancing for the anti vex covet conspiracists He doesn't serve much of a profitable purpose

Fuck this dude. What other kind of law is he gonna practice? Come on sovereign citizen maritime law? Like what are you talking about? Right? You'd find some other flashy ass griff to get involved in threatening to make these lawsuits that never go anywhere We've seen a hundred of this the the archetype come by. Oh, yeah Also, wren said that she's stanford educated, but she actually went to samford university Fun fact they were founded in 1841 and admitted their first black student 126 years later Oh, right on time that said though. It's not a bad school. It's ranked number 65 on the list of pharmacy schools in the united states Which is better than stanford who doesn't have a pharmacy program It would be very difficult for them to have a ranking, but he said stanford

Yeah, I went back and listen to it a couple times because it does sound similar, but he definitely said there was a team in there I was at the ball. That's because what because I get it. She went to stanford. He thinks that that and that's a more prestigious school Uh, at least like colloquially known Mm-hmm, and I understand that but meanwhile samford is actually a good school if you know pharmacy stuff Which I didn't know until I looked into it, right, but uh, but also there's 64 better schools Well, no, I uh My the first college I went to was butler. It has one of the most uh, I rated pharmacy schools there I went I went to mizu. It was one of the best journalism schools in the country

I'll tell you this. I didn't take a single journalism class I don't know what it means to be an extremely high qualified pharmacist Right, and he's saying like she's one of the best pharmacists I've ever met. I don't know what that means I mean, but is there a pharmacy competition? Is there rankings? Are there specific things that you can as a pharmacist? I'm guessing it just means that she's a pharmacist that says stuff that lines up with what he wants Exactly, right? pharmacists to say. I know. I just don't understand inflating jobs like that like I get you know, an extremely Well, they always do that

Rower everything is the most prestigious. It's all the biggest network and you know, it doesn't happen Some stuff is just it's just she's a good pharmacist. You can be a good pharmacist. No, she's the best All right. I have no idea if any of the stuff that these people are saying is true I have no idea if she was fired for cause or because she wanted a religious exemption for this hospital policy I have no idea However, if I know the pawn tom rends swims in this will result in nothing past sensational ass headlines But hopefully the doctor's at ascension in alabama where she said she worked sue them for outrageous slander Yeah, I was wondering like I said at this point in the episode

I was wondering why the headline was for the 139 Hospitals and it turns out like I said, that's how many are run by ascension They're literally accusing the ascension network of hospitals of all having killed floors Yeah, based on what I can only describe very generously as poultry evidence and and let me tell you something if you're concerned legally About the definition of malice, you know, like you have to prove actual malice My friends you have a lawsuit that is the best Well, no, here's you have to prove actual malice when you're talking about public figures

If you're talking about this doctor who's like no one knows who this doctor is. He's not a public figure, right? You were clearly hurting his reputation in a way that is, um Damaging to his life Being a murderer. Yeah called a murderer. I would say that's probably gonna reflect badly on a mass murderer conceivably if the breakdown is accurate having killed 15,000 people One of the most Prolific murderers of all time and then not just and then to stop and think about it really is like The idea of if the society that these people want goes the way that it wants

They'll write the histories that reflect what they want it to be. This guy could be a thousand years from now He's the greatest mass murderer that anybody has ever known. Yeah. Yeah. He killed more than Exactly. Yes, the he killed everybody of covet Jesus, I would assume that also You'd be able to see Ridiculously huge payments being made to him based on the I mean the other elements of their conspiracy theory So I I guess that's a paper trail. They should uh, I mean no, you know, they definitely don't have It's like the power ball. You don't get a lump sum payment. You know, so there's one piece of evidence

Sure that has been presented publicly. Yes, and it is a approximately minute long recording of the the pharmacist and this, um nurse talking was it Consensual recording I see no evidence of it. Okay, so we're in project Uh, uh veritas veritas territory. I believe uh, it was surreptitiously recorded. Hmm. That's not good Yeah, maybe maybe not. We'll see. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe um, but yeah, so here is wren's describing this clip And I always have to I mean, you know at this point, Alex. I I quintuple verify everything times 10 That makes me believe you less

I only said it, but she just so happened to record and document everything she did So she had recordings. She has paperwork. She has all sorts of things now amongst those recordings There was a clip which I just released And that clip is between her remember the doctor of pharmacy and a nurse who works in the hospital and uh

Uh If you're gonna play it, I uh, this this would be the time because it's it's shocking. Well, we'll set it up for it Tell us what we're about to hear What you're about to hear is adrini the pharmacist talking to a nurse and what they're talking about is uh Prior to this adrini had talked about how she'd been transferred And they transferred her position for speaking out against what they were doing as part of the process They they transferred her and they did everything they could to shut her up

And so she says uh, you know, they transfer you in its politics. This nurse says Starts talking about her floor Her floor and she says, so what are we hospice care and she says, you know, the the this doctor he's Wait, are they hospice care? He's killing patients. He's he's telling us to kill the patients and uh She goes on to talk specifically. There you go. So we're killing the patient this floor Because what he what he's asking us to do the other floors don't want to do it The other floors don't want to do it. You're right. The other floors do not want to murder patients shocking

I think it might be more helpful to just play the clip instead of having this aspiring right wing media star slash lawyer describe it Particularly because I've heard the clip and I don't think this is a fair assessment Someone might say that other floors don't want to do a particular treatment because they're treating different patients What maybe that particular floor was using ventilators to treat patients because they were the most severe cases Whereas other floors housed less severe cases for whom the idea of applying a ventilator isn't a consideration odd Nothing in this clip is damning and all of it could be explained by some context which renz doesn't provide And is just completely absent If renz was serious about this case, he wouldn't be trying to litigate it on info wars

He'd be in a courtroom and if renz was trying to have this case heard in the court of public opinion and he was Serious and had the goods it'll be wise for him to start with something that's really definitive Seems to me like when you're a performer you open strong and this is not it No, also keep in mind that this is a far the this pharmacist is Look, they're supposed to be the whistleblower. Sure, but they're not a whistleblower here at all She recorded a conversation with a nurse who made a claim Renz should be getting that nurse to be helping out with this fake lawsuit instead of the person who overheard someone else make a claim Seems seems like that would be the direct source. Yeah a whistleblower someone who talked to someone who is also not a whistleblower

Yeah, you know, this is why you have people Tell you let people know if you're recording them, you know, like there's a contextual Hey, this this doctor is killing my patients is a Contextually within a certain group of people is meant very differently. Could be talking shit. Totally. Yeah You can always be talking shit. You can always be talking shit But if you agree to go on record with somebody then ostensibly you're gonna go there You're gonna have an idea. You're gonna take the words you're saying more seriously Exactly, you're gonna mean everything that you say directly instead of having to be like no

I was having a bad day, you know, like that's just it's fucked up. I should tell you I've been recording this podcast I know and I've only ever had bad So they play the clip and the audio is not great, but you get a sense of it You know remdesivir was absolutely poison in my mind. I think it's absolutely a horrible horrible drug This should never been anywhere near a human being But one of the things that not many people are talking about and this is your your pro tip for any of the other attorneys that want to get into this Give other attorneys advice in the courts But if you look you'll find the misuse of other drugs was very frequent

Not every case But known drugs morphine Uh, molastopam All these there's a big channel in the uk that they admitted that they basically killed people with it. So, so let's go ahead and play this clip Here it is Real quick he added music to it, which makes it i'm confused I assume that she did not also add the music to this Sure, it's just recording. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think it's background music

In the hospital wherever they're recording or whatever. Yeah This is local or like this is soap opera music Okay, they're possible. They're possible. We can tell when they're in pain. We can tell when they're agitated. We can tell when they're with us That's the only way you keep giving them medications is to knock them out So that's what you're gonna do. I remember that day. You were like you got the other nurses to come in and say I'm just like, I know That's what they're doing And the big thing I get told by all these top doctors is especially with covid top doc You gotta get up and move around. Yeah, you gotta move around what so this means nothing

That clip is a zero Honestly, like we even were sort of talking it feels like a co-worker blowing off steam not knowing that you're secretly recording them Only to use them to contribute to anti vex conspiracy theorist profiteering. Yeah, I'd be pissed. Yeah, I would feel used But there's so much context that's missing from this. There's whatever they were talking about beforehand Totally Ren's has characterized, but I don't trust him Whatever they're talking about afterwards That the the more he says the less I believe was the music Added to help cover up cuts that were made because that's certainly something people can do

Also rem does of yours tough to fight in the courts because you have no evidence of your claims Yeah, that's the reason that's the hot tip for other lawyers real tough. Yeah, it's real tough It's tough to try cases when you're full of shit Also, you can see alex lying about the uk sedative story again here because this is all just a cavalcade of bullshit Yeah, just throwing it all out there. There's just any number of explanations that make so much more sense than a killing floor Yeah, for instance like hey, maybe this patient was asking for morphine when maybe they didn't need morphine or hey Maybe this doctor was saying give him some more morphine when maybe they just needed to be uh Leaving the doctor alone. Maybe he was having a fucking day or whatever like I get it

Yeah, all of these things are not a murder floor. No, it's a murder floor. Okay. Well, this is willful murder They're talking about murder and uh when the pharmacist said I think this is a possibility Instead of them listening They retaliate They they they retaliate. I mean alex This is evidence of willfulness, right? Which means there is no Uh immunity. There's no immunity for willful actions and it looks like that's what's happening here and what I would suggest

Is and what I'm calling for Is I'm calling for the ag of alabama Call for it with the local law enforcement to start to start an investigation There needs to be a criminal investigation. Was there murder committed in this hospital and understand hastening death Hastening death. It doesn't matter when that happens. If you hasten death, it's murder How do you distinguish between that and murder to me? There's no difference So we we've got the lawsuit with my client who's been trying to bring this forward who tried to bring this to the hospital's attention I stay there and sit on top ramps because here's the key not just for the victims for justice

But they're gonna do it again. We've got an expose before they do it again We'll be right back. Stay with us So they have not had any investigation done and are calling for the ag to open an investigation That translates to I have no evidence and I'd like a government agency to do a fishing expedition for me And if they refuse to I can say that they're involved in the cover-up. So it's a win win This isn't the behavior of a serious person let alone a serious lawyer. This is this is embarrassing shit Yeah, tom rands and now alex are accusing doctors at ascension of willfully murdering patients Either as part of some sort of a globalist plot or for profit, but they have no victim

They have a possibly disgruntled former employee who secretly recorded a co-worker saying something inflammatory That's devoid of context and that's about it in terms of what's been produced. Yeah, that's not gonna do it That's not gonna do it. No, but it might get your ass soon Yeah, I'm I'm hearing the wolf gang albic sign go up and and like somebody being like I'll investigate the hospital Dun dun dun And here we are again because the ag is not gonna not gonna do it an open investigation based on this poultry Shit, and I've said poultry twice now. That's the amount of poultry that it is That's how furious I am more poultry than it is than the definition of poultry. That makes sense. All right. Listen. Yeah

Tom rands can't prove shit Uh these killing floors. I mean it appears to me that this was not an uncommon thing Okay, so I can't prove appears. I don't I don't personally and I saw that you had some stuff on that I'm gonna be really eager to look at as soon as we get off air I can't I don't have the evidence to show that there was a killing floor in every hospital in the country But it sure looks like it. No. No. No. I was saying I was saying at the special hospitals We know they shut down multiple floors kicked out the regular doctors. There were different variants. So I say killing floor. Yeah So that clip is really important. I think because you know

It shows something. Hmm shows that maybe that 139 number is alex Maybe Tom rands is just coming in with this recording that he has right of this doctor who was at ascension And alex has expanded this to all of the ascension Uh network. Yeah, because in this This interview at least and the direct stuff that ren's had in that that clip

There isn't the 139 number. That's just from info wars headlines So alex may actually be taking this and embellishing it and making it his own In terms of what might be legally actionable against him. Yeah, so that's fun. Ah, man Also, also when you say I can't prove something like Shut up. Yeah, I mean you can end a sentence there Yeah, if you're a lawyer intending to try an actual lawsuit around the thing you can't prove It's probably best not to spend your time going on stupid ass conspiracy radio shows spouting off About the thing you can't prove and how you're so sure about it

But it's just a matter of finding this elusive proof that makes you sound like a fucking idiot Yeah, I think a judge reading that brief would be like I just watched a clip of you saying that you have no evidence I'm gonna get proof shit. I'm gonna dismiss this with malice So, uh, you start talking here more about, uh How you can't prove stuff. Yeah, that's not good. And then he gets distracted. Oh, that's right. I'm an attorney And I always do this for your audience and everybody else I was distinguished between what I can prove with court type evidence and what I believe I'm gonna tell you outright based on on a ton of evidence that I have that I don't think quite raised

It gets to the level of proof. No shit, but certainly strongly suggest to me This was I mean anyone with common sense would say this is a very is it was planned. It was happening all over They were doing this everywhere. I mean you get the exact same thing happen You know, you know, alex when I was getting these thousands and thousands of calls And literally one of the hardest periods of my life to have person after person call me and die and die and die and die And I couldn't save them all Uh, when this was happening, you know, it got to the point Where where someone had called me and picked up the phone. Okay. How long have they been in the hospital?

Okay, eight days. What are their kidney numbers? What is it? What is the respiration? Are they on the vet? How long have they been on that? I could ask a series of questions and I could tell you and predict with 90 plus percent reliability despite the fact that I'm not a doctor How many days they had before they were dead and that's all over the country because the same Murder protocol the same factory death A project was done everywhere in the country. These people they followed the law They followed the incentives they followed the money They followed the plan and the plan was to kill people we incentivize and still to this day the laws have not been changed by the way

We have laws on the book that incentivize not the recovery from covid But the killing with covid if you have covid and what laws the hospital gets more money What law medicare reimbursement if you get if you get covid and the hospital cures you you get more money They needed to drive up death numbers to push vaccines in my opinion. That's what I think this was all about I think it's you know, anyone with common sense can see this and I'm just working on getting it where I've got enough Evidence to make it work in a court of law. Well, I noticed the globalist always said on multiple fronts They eat a bunch of death numbers not really happening. So kill people and set the precedent to be able to kill people Yeah, yeah all over the all over the place. Um

So I love this clip because if you really map it like you're diagramming a sentence you start with him saying look I can't prove shit. Can't say I can't I don't know anything. Yeah I can't look. I'm you know, I can't prove it. I've got a lot of guesstimations then he gets distracted Uh talking about how great he is at predicting death It's great at predicting though. He's not a doctor. Frankly. He's a covet expert at this point Then he transitions out of that into making sensational ass claims that earlier He was caveatting that he can't prove can't prove it But he's saying them very definitively here at the end. This is disgraceful behavior for a lawyer

Listen, I can't prove anything but common sense tells me that Hundreds of doctors around this country all agreed to murder There are hundreds of thousands of people in order to get a small amount of money per murder and to help the globalists scare people into getting vaccinated That's a common sense common sense. What an idiot would try and complicate it. Everyone's motivations make total sense It's perfect. It's it's like a puzzle that fits together. It's the only thing that fits all of the needs Honestly, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise. Oh, I'd be crazy

I mean, I hope he gets fucking disbarred. That's absurd. Anyway, he has another theory about covid and uh It was meant to take things like the military and the hospital system and get the good people out, right? Sure. Yeah. All right. You tell me the only the military The only the military when they when they start to push you vaccines and this that and other what they did Was the best and the brightest in the military quit They're gone, right So they left with whatever was willing to just go along to get along In the same way, I think we saw the same thing with doctors and hospitals, right? It was a test. It was a purge bingo

Yeah, the good doctors and the good nurses left and that ties into the operation nightingale stuff Right because you you you have all these doctors and nurses quitting either They didn't want to get the vaccine or they didn't want to murder patients. So the good ones all quit creates a huge shortage So, how do you fill that? Well, you fill that with crappy doctors and nurses who are willing to do whatever they need to To sell to sell out or you know just following orders Just following orders. We've got to purge the thing free thinkers and get those that will just follow orders At any and all costs. Okay, and that's exactly what was happening in healthcare Now, this is just entirely made up. It's just wren's freestyling. Yeah, he has zero evidence of anything

He's saying this is just a storyline. He's constructed to make the diploma scam from florida fit into his larger conspiracy world There's no evidence at all that this is anything other than a diploma scam which happens a lot There are a ton of people who want to take shortcuts, you know, you know You don't want to have to go to the school to get the degree take a shortcut sure people love it People love shortcuts consider tom wrens and how he latched on to covet conspiracy nonsense to catapult him into a lucrative legal career Instead of actually trying cases people like shortcuts. Yeah, it's easier. Yeah It's really hard to do it the the like a make a name for yourself grinding it out winning cases Oh man, you know, you know like

It's starting comedy You've seen more than once, you know, you're you're doing stand-up. You're coming along You've got some time you've put things together You've worked about five six years and then you see somebody who's a year or two in Just catches the right wave and you're going. Oh, fuck them. Yeah, that's a shortcut I wish I could have taken that sure That's a little different That's a little different

I think because that's not always a shortcut sometimes people just have an undeniable talent that like is organic. No, no I'm speaking of specific. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, obviously. I've seen people who catapulted it to You're thinking of one person that you're really still mad at. No, I'm no I'm thinking one person who catapulted it to stardom Who is fucking genius? Mmm. So Ren says another theory. Yeah off of an aside issue And this is really him showing his cards a little bit as if he hasn't already shown pretty much all of his cards Tell me what else is on your cupboard radar Biggest thing I would love to talk to you next is is something called a mod rna

I don't know if you've heard of that, but I need to talk about that because it ties in with the food supply You know, I've been doing a bunch of work on the food supply. Why you gotta stop and I found this I'm just finding this and I really would love to break it and make it go viral right here because this is how They're spreading disinformation about the fact they say well, we can't make mRNA work in the food supply It's a lie and I think I figured out they're doing it. Oh, you think you think that This is kind of too obvious of an illustration of what this asshole is all about He has some half-cooked theory that he has no evidence of something about rna in food and instead of proving it Or even giving a single shit about the veracity of what he's saying

He wants to get it out there on info wars because he wants it to go viral. That's what's important It's attention-seeking shit. This is just it seems like a pattern because it is yeah, I mean I I just I can't imagine wanting to hire a lawyer who says You know, I've been I've been working on the food supply a lot lately. Oh, you're getting into farming. Yeah No, no, no, I'm reading about so there's dna in your in your farming The and it's mod rna And now I'm a I'm the type of person who who tells you right up front if I can prove or disprove something Oh, I like that. I can't prove any of this. Oh, I don't like that. I can tell you it's true

Okay, 100% true. Can I see I can't prove it. Can I see your degree? I failed a few times Let me see those test results. I don't think you want to do that. So this guy sucks. I fucking hate tom rand I'm a better doctor than cova doctors. I'm a better food supply analyst than food supply analyst I will say one thing to his credit and it's not to his credit, but I I think that Um, I prefer him to steve kersh, you know in terms of these covet conspiracies Sure, and that is because he makes me feel something. I actually hate him. Yeah, I hate you bored me with his, uh, nonsense

substackposts and Incessantly being wrong about can like covid stuff. Yeah, I actually really resent Tom rands and I feel like I would rather have something that that kind of gives me a charge of some feeling Yeah, rather than just like There's going through knee-high mud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you would prefer the cat and nine tails when you flagellate Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, something along those lines If you have to break my skin with something I would rather it be sharp so it gets the job done I don't know. We're gonna take all day. Yes. Yeah, I guess that metaphor works

So now we got another guy I fucking hate Okay, that looks like another guest. All right. Oh god. Why? And we are joined by the great stu peters right now stu peters dot com syndicated talk show host and absolutely kicking butt out there exposing the globalist I want to get into Some of the reports he's done about the latest videos of the globalist High priest of all noah harari. Oh god damn it. Okay. There's a globalist high priest now So stu peters is doing a lot of things but kicking butt is not one of them. Do you know this cat? Nope

He's a big old talk show host a lot of people talked about him as like the next alex jones There's there's been an idea in my head possibly about doing some episodes about him But he's just I don't know maybe we'll see. Yeah, we'll see It's interesting in a way that this interview is happening because many people like I said have compared stu to alex jones And I don't think the comparison is too off He lacks a lot of the charisma that alex has and stu can't just ramble about nothing for an hour like alex can But there are some similarities. They're both insane right-wing extremists who are obsessed with the devil They both make a living skimming headlines and then amplifying and worsening whatever idiotic shit is popular on conspiracy leaning social media

But their similarity the other one is that stu peters is a bit of a filmmaker like alex used to be Ah many people have heard of his film died suddenly Which is a load of shit attempted a documentary that argues that people are dying suddenly from the covid vaccine That movie was so bad and poorly researched that even some covid conspiracy theorists have panned it Wow One of his main sources in that film is frequent passed in for war's guest and substack idiot steve kersh Also fun fact stu has contended as recently as this month that nfl player damar hamlin is an example of someone who died suddenly Despite the fact that hamlin is very much still alive

I Hamlin I remember yeah when pressed on it. He told the bbc quote. I don't know if it's a body double I don't know if it's a deep fake huge standing ovation Huge hundreds of thousands of people standing ovation every time Okay, stu is an idiot, but he's an idiot who commits to the bit. I will say that Well, I mean if you're gonna continue saying that after you've found out that he's still alive You might as well go for it prior to that film

Peters had made the movie watch the water which claimed that covid vaccines were made from snake venom Which the evil forces in the world wanted to put inside you so that you would become a quote hybrid of satan That sounds cool. Obviously this got a lot of attention, but now is roundly mocked Steve's main source for that film was passed in for was guest brian artist And before that he made a q&a on ass film called these little ones which covers the topic of child trafficking with the level of Seriousness and discipline you would expect from someone like stu. Yeah, it's trash and about half of it seems to be about isaac cappy The guy whose story about having dinner with seth green was so boring even alex told him his shit was weak Yeah, when they had an interview that was bad. Yeah, I was so bad. I do remember the story about seth green's day

Yeah, that was bad. He told him he needed to talk about chicken and it was at a time when uh seth green was making robot chicken Yes, absolutely No, chicken's code man So stu and alex share this trait though They are both people who are willing to just shovel out content that is immediately debunked and embarrassing But they pretend that shit never happened in service of moving on to trying to build up excitement for the next thing They're in the sensationalism business not in the business of making something that stands up to any scrutiny stu peters is a shithead from way back

I found a great article in mother jones by kira butler that laid out a lot of his history and What a history he's had As is the case with most of these right-wing dumb dumps stu is a entertainment industry failure Who's uh, you know, not totally super mad that they weren't good enough to make it No, no, no this path is legitimately wild that he had From this mother jones piece quote after growing up in minnesota stu peters went to los angeles to pursue a career in the Entertainment industry by the time he was 20 though He was back in minnesota and in 2000

He befriended then governor and former pro wrestler jesse ventura's son tyrell ventura sounds right in an effort to land Apart in a short film he was working on Stuart was welcomed into the governor's inner circle in fact according to a 2002 ap report He lived in the governor's mansion and tell a background check revealed that steward wasn't the hollywood insider he claimed to be Wild According to this ap report the police felt that stu didn't pose any threat to anyone But he but quote has several active warrants for his arrest in connection with small offenses Yeah, that sounds about right. So he's a guy with a bunch of active warrants

It's what uh, minnesota made friends with the governor's son to get into a uh short film and we were all young ones What a what a level of fraud That's that's bold. Yeah bold to do to the governor. Yeah, that's that's power I like that. So after they had that falling out he tried to become a rapper which surprisingly didn't work I can't believe that. Yeah, and then he became a bail bondsman and made more of an impact in that field than rap for sure Yeah, as it turns out stu made a habit of dressing in ways that were very similar to cops Although he was not a cop the good hugh county sheriff told the ap in 2015 that quote anybody would think this guy is a cop He's very much crowding or blurring the line with impersonated. Yeah

stu responded quote if the concern is that uh, the everyday joe is going to mistake one of our squad cars as a law enforcement vehicle My question is so what in today's climate of law enforcement? There are two sides the good guys and the bad guys. We're the good guys Minnesota did not agree and partially because of stu they passed a state law forbidding bail bondsmen from quote Using certain colored uniforms or vehicles with emblems that the public might mistake for law enforcement There was also a slight concern that stu was posting a lot of his exploits on social media and youtube And may have been trying to get himself a reality tv show which seems like something he would do Yeah, that sounds like maybe the only thing he would do. Yeah

He's a shithead who's desperate for attention and it's pretty consistent. Wow His bounty hunting career may have ended because he was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct in 2021 after his wife called the cops quote saying he he had come home drunk and was throwing things around the house He's totally full of shit desperate for attention and seems to have a history of domestic violence In other words, he's a perfect fit for alex's corner of the right wing media Uh fits in there. Yeah, like a glove. Yeah, you'd think people would notice that they are so similar So many things and but he doesn't have a beard. Oh, yeah So from there, he started his online talk show and has found an audience with a bunch of q and on folks and you know

That sort of element and he hits a lot of the same beats as alex quite frankly Christian fanaticism white genocide fears anti vex misinformation. They're two peas in a pod They're just two shitty peas in a shitty pod Knowing that Why would you believe anything stupider says even about What he's uh, you are ostensibly agree with him about right? He's lying to you Yeah, even if he's telling you the truth. He's lying to you. No shit. He's a liar He made a movie about covid vaccines being snake venom. I know but i'm i'm like this goes way back

He doesn't he doesn't care He's lying to you. Of course Yeah, how do people trust people who do that? It's um, it's a partnership of convenience. You they're just trying to consolidate some sort of power and you know Scam their audience. That's basically what they're doing. Who cares if you can trust this person or not They work for right now Stu peters has an audience. He has a sizable audience and alex probably wants some well I know but I mean that's what i'm talking about. How does the how does the audience?

Find him and not go like oh well obviously He's pretty emotional and angry in his delivery a lot of the time sure and he talks in a way that is meant to Be a facsimile of intelligence sure and so I think a lot of people get swept up in that Emotionality of it and and the appearance of knowing what he's talking about. Yep Anyway, uh, they want to put uh They would put the fbi in guantanamo bay. Yeah, get him I don't want to go to war with the fbi for no reason But it is totally captured the justice department is totally captured. But the good news is

The america's waking up that there is a coup. We have an occupational government. Literally. We're an occupied nation by the globalist Yeah, uh, and I mean I don't want to go to war with the fbi either I just want to completely defund them and completely abolish them and arrest most of its agents I mean these people Are a criminal enterprise and when you have a terrorist network They need to be designated and classified and deemed to be a terrorist network and then they need to be treated accordingly Which means that you need to arrest them and thank god that obama didn't you know make good on his promise to close Gitmo because we've got plenty of room to house these people. I mean, these are high crimes

This is open declaration of war against americans And it's being perpetuated. I totally agree with you that we should put the leadership of the fbi in gitmo But and I'm not an apology staff guy. Wow. Okay so The fbi needs to be classified as a terrorist organization and put in guantanamo bay This is such a funny betrayal of alex's original brand. He spent years Fairly, and I don't think that he was necessarily wrong to he was wrong on certain points But the idea of it

He wasn't totally wrong about screaming he was just screaming about holding citizens at guantanamo bay There was a single case of it, which he obviously exaggerated into Far far more, but he made such a huge deal out of it Now alex wants to start throwing his political enemies who are u.s citizens into gitmo just a complete fraud no moral center to this guy at all Just blowing in the wind. Yeah Yeah Yeah, that is one of those things where

That's like it's like this guy. Why would anybody ever trust obama on fucking anything? He said he was gonna close that shit. Look at here. We are. Ah, fuck us. Well, fuck us. Fuck biden. Fuck them all well I understand some of those feelings, but I I I don't think that Um, we should put the fbi and gitmo. I am not Not I again, I don't think gitmo should exist right so I will hold off on any uh other I don't I don't think I don't I don't think that the fbi should be doing some of the things that it does Hmm. I agree there. Sure. It's a long jump from there to arrest them Designate them as a terrorist organization to put them in gitmo

Yeah, also if you're going to start there from your point of view Then you have said that if I designate somebody as a terrorist group. I am then I suppose obligated to arrest them and put them in Uh guantanamo bay right which they presumably should be opposed to you would think strongly Especially since they have been classified as terrorist groups some of them. Oh, shit. Yeah. So anyway, uh, stew If you feel the same way as alex and that is that these globalists they're coming for the west and he means white people Yeah, they cannot be referred to as an elite police force anymore that that's the eye, you know anything We're the rule of law here. They actually do the opposite. They subvert the rule of law

Do you think they've realized how much they're discredited and destroyed or they live with their own little obama bubble where they still think they have power? Do you want to know the answer to that is I don't think they care I think that the hubris and the arrogance is just right out in the wide open these people are running a coup that is taking over the entire west And they are destroying civilization tom wrens talking about altering the dna of people This is open declaration of war against freedom and liberty and they are coming for all the superpowers in the west They're coming for christianity. They're coming for the white replacement. This is all real None of this has been conspiracy theory and they're carrying it out right now Yeah, the un says it's white replacement and the adl says

Arrest you when you cover it the adl still says the builderberg group doesn't exist while it's on the news Builderberg group to save you from ai Yeah, they don't say the builderberg group doesn't exist Is this is this like how they talk to each other in real life, too? Do they just like say sound bites they agree with each other back and forth? God, that's got to be exhausting. It's got it's so tiring. Yeah I bet they do. I mean, I I wouldn't imagine there's that much more To them than this. I mean, yeah, but I mean that's that none of that is cogent

In a set. I mean, that's just a continuous like bag bag bag. This is something. This is dude. Wait. Wait till later Oh my god, if you want incoherent, there's there's more coming. I mean, so what was this point? What? What was he trying to say the globalists are coming for white people is that's what he was trying to say? I think so All right. That's what I heard. Okay. So look, uh, stu peters is a guy who has a lot of QAnon type beliefs great You have this, uh, child trafficking adrenochrome is it cappy ass documentary? Right. You have a second documentary that's about covid vaccines having snake venom, right? You know, it's a bunch of bullshit and a lot of it is quite QAnon adjacent Yeah, however in this next clip

He just complains a bunch about Q. He hates Q. Okay They tell us to be pacified to do absolutely nothing that a man is riding in on a white horse to save this country No, do not rise up this oppressive government will take care of itself. The constitution means nothing You're inherent god-given inalienable rights. They'll be restored. Just wait because there's all kinds of white hats You know, these people have been executed. They've gone to Gitmo. There's secret operations being run all over the place Trust the plan Don't be the plan trust the plan and this is how they chilled patriotism and then set up january 6th In order to put people in jail and make the fear put the fear of god into people

Don't you ever think about rising up against this tyrannical government that is ushering in full authoritarian rule Complete absence of the rule of law, which is the only recipe, you know ingredient that is required and don't forget The q said that bide will be removed on january 20th That's inauguration and that fear was used to put troops to capital So it's both used to manipulate the public and manipulate the military We actually clamor for it. We beg for it. We demand a hole in our heads when they suggest that we might need one Help me. Help me. Help me. You know, uh, brian williams and katie curts. I need to onboard this bio weapon I need to go and jack myself. So I demand that you give it to me right now

I mean, they turn this into a bunch of karems What what does that even mean? I mean look, what does that even mean? This is this is another kind of one of those moments where I'm just listening to this. I'm like grow up Yeah, what are you talking about? He he seems to be operating off an assumption that qanon was being done to people as opposed to uh people were believing in this uh dumb conspiracy hoax that he clearly was also involved in believing 100 and promoting. Yeah, um And so they feel stupid because they got had because you were dumb because you got had desperately wanted to be had Because you want it's not like you described this. Yes. Absolutely. Um, and also alex

I mean, do we really want to go into all the times that he said that biden would be dead before the inauguration and all this Stuff idea or how yeah, biden was going to be killed or he's going to step down so hillary could come in or michelle obama All this bullshit You get the get the fuck off it you can't you cannot attack qanon people or people are uh The people in this world are very very fond of bible verses and the like and there is one point where jesus is like, hey You know, uh before you remove a splinter from somebody else's eye You should take that giant fucking log out of your face, right? The log is bigger than I have ever seen it in this man's face It's quite big. How could he even see there? He can't see a

Anything yeah in the way of this gigantic log. You can see one thing the log Well, there's a there's a sign on that log. Oh, yeah, and it says we're in the fucking end times. Oh That's a rough rough side rough log This is a football game. What quarter are we in? Are we losing? Are we winning? Why what is this? I know and you've got you asked me that before and I would tell you That biblically speaking we are in the fourth quarter. I mean, we are in the end times There's nothing that we can do to stop what is coming Jesus we're down four with three minutes left to play seeing the deception that we were promised that we were gonna see

We are seeing the trials and tribulations I don't think that we have seen a fraction of the death that we're about to see I think that things are going to get a lot tougher because Remember we we have to everybody has to wake up and if there is only a fraction or a small portion Or which is now rapidly growing of people who are awake to what's happening around them and Those people have to still wake up which is the majority of people then it's going to take calamities It's going to take major

Major death major destruction and you know God said that it was coming and so I mean obviously He is the only source of truth that you can rely on one. I don't deny all that we have we are entering the end times Even if you don't believe in God, they took that and made it a battle plan We are literally entering into one world government one world currency Taking over our bodies destroying our families mass death. I mean, there's no doubt that hell has been released We're not entering into that. You already said we're there like a year ago for so long Oh, this is exhausting. It's so stupid. I am so tired of the end times not ending. Yeah I swear to God. Mm-hmm. If they don't end the end time soon. I'm going to be pissed. I'd be fine

I mean like they should anything they could stop Yeah, like do the I'm do the end times then I'm I'm now you've pushed me so far I just want to go one way or the I don't even have a dog in this fight Here's the nefarious part of the globalist end time plan For 20 years, they don't do anything It starts and then there's nothing. There's nobody doing anything. That's they're biting their time part of the plan So I told you there would be some incoherence coming. Sure this next clip. Oh, did we not already get to it? No, oh That would be completely destructive to the entire deep state cabal that is running roughshod on our country right now

Is if the majority of the people who were awake actually got organized and then got active so they have to develop this whole playbook Uh, which is basically is disaggregation initiatives. They need to keep us divided You've developed a political party veterans and the military to look at the sovereign citizens with suspicion They need law enforcement to see the true old keepers as if they're domestic terrorists They need to keep the second amendment activists on their heels with constant push for gun grabbing They need to have the conservative and the populists and the christians divided over What are so-called christian nationalism is a good thing or a bad thing? They were divided, you know, uh, america first republicans divided with

You know establishment fossils and the gop and then you know rising firebrands like marjorie taylor green going to war with You know people like alexandria casio-cortez when basically they're running the same role just on different sides of the aisle I mean the whole thing is a movie. It's all pro wrestling. It's all a hundred percent freaking fake And they need the school kids and their parents to stay reliant on schools So they have homosexual kid grabbing, you know trends promoting Fox news pundits telling people to stop our school boards and go fight with your school boards and This is okay to be in your it's all designed in congress. Two peters is on fire Oh, that's just a list. Yeah, that's a list of lies. Well, that's just a list of things

Some of it's not even lies because they're just a word. Yeah. Well, exactly. No, that's what I'm saying There's no proof of value to something. It's just uh, uh, it's free association. Yeah, it is. It's totally this is so Undisingenuous it is because it's just him like rapid-firing coming off with he might as well be rating a listicle from fucking cracked or whatever You might notice that he doesn't like a MTG and that's uh, that's something that's worth noting. I guess I mean, I don't care who they like and don't like that guy is unable to say words, right? But but you can you can get the feeling of it, right? I mean, but I don't want the feeling of it I have plenty. I have plenty of feelings. Some people do want that. They can have their own feelings Right, and that's what they get them from him. Don't get his feelings. His feelings are bad feelings

So, um, one thing we talked a little bit earlier about alex's primary brand early on You know, like being very against people being a bit of the left-right paradigm. I'm all about freedom No, and one of the things, um, you know that he was pretty insistent on is all this politics and elections and stuff It's all theater right just like we heard and alex has betrayed that in the present day. He's he's lost that edge Now stew peters has it. He's still there. Oh, yes He's lying about it because of course he is exactly the same way that alex was but now he's got it Well, but he's at least a little bit more insistent in it and but alex doesn't like that at all because first of all it kind of reminds Uh anybody who's listening

Consciously at all of who alex used to be. Yeah, and then also it's just a bad position for alex to be in at this point And I get what he's saying about at this point. He sees it all staged. Well, that's a healthy way to see it because most of it is staged But people say stew peters is an operative. I don't think he is they say I'm an operative. I'm an operative of freedom Uh, there are good people. There may be good people that are unwittingly tied into agendas, but I I really see us waking up now. I don't trust elon musk. Let me answer this question I'm disagreeing with you. I'm just saying it's a it's a it's a very subtle thing I don't trust him. He's involved the lower satellites and the self-driving cars the electric cars and Rainships and all of it, but I can't disagree with the devastating things

He's saying it's the new world order and coming out against short sorrows But then he puts a waf task force person in over the company But if you look at the weight of it overall he started to do more good than bad now Does he see liberty winning and he's hedging his bets or is it a deeper sigh off? I mean, I think that's the way to look at this If it if it's if it's all staged I mean, well, that means we're staged a bit I mean, I don't think that's I think that's probably an overstatement. I think you say in the main It's staged. I would agree with that. But what do you think of elon musk?

Uh, I mean, it's really hard to trust a person who wants to implant Chips into everyone's brains and then control their actions and their thoughts well said I mean, we have strong disagreements over why we shouldn't trust elon But if you get there you get let me take elon musk out of the equation I agree with the statement that it's tough to trust someone who wants to put chips I agree. I agree. Yeah, it is tough to trust. I mean, yeah, yeah It's fascinating how desperately alex needs to fit elon musk into some kind of a storyline Is he a good guy or a bad guy? He says a bunch of bullshit that I like so he must be good

But he put a wef person in charge of twitter. So he made me he's bad. Maybe he's bad But he says good things because he knows the patriots are gonna win He's trying to hedge his bets or maybe he's good, but he's putting in this wef person to keep the enemies close This is a pathetic level of unnecessary explanation Elon musk is an idiot who loves to talk shit. He attacked george soros on twitter mysteriously just after soros sold off all his tesla stock He attacked the adl after they complained that about his attack on soros It's pretty simple. The only thing that complicates things is the delusion that musk is a genius If you accept that premise then his actions are a puzzle to solve

But if you just recognize that he's a shithead with poor impulse control, everything comes into focus Like everything makes sense. Yeah, I This is the one that I keep getting weirded out by this one because I feel like this is like some deep evolutionary shit You know, this is like this goes back to apes or something because there's no way that we can using our rational brains think That elon musk or any billionaire should exist period, you know, like that just No one should exist with a billion dollar that it shouldn't happen No, what no human being can handle that Human beings should not be okay with it if somebody has it

We should be interceding for their own good and others probably But somehow he's instead a celebrity that people are like, what's he thinking? Well, you know, there's same. Yeah, there's a A A desire to see yourself in the position of of someone who has billions of dollars for sure I understand that I think that that impulse. I don't know if it goes back to the apes But it's something deep rooted. It's something in there because there's no explanation the belief that that could be you Maybe hinders some people's ability to want to push for changes that would be better for everyone I suppose I suppose but I mean

But that's the thing like it's not being rich I get wanted to be rich being rich is whatever if you want riches go get riches. He's not rich He's absurdly wealthy beyond imagination. Right that is it's inconceivable how wealthy he is Right just as a baseline. We shouldn't be we don't let anybody have inconceivable amounts of stuff. Look, I agree with you Yeah, but I'm just saying that that instinct doesn't make that distinction. I know it's just insane It is it's crazy. It's crazy. So alex can't really handle Um, the level to which stew is saying things are staged right and fake. It's a false flag. Um, just about everything Yeah, well, I guess when I say it's all staged what I mean is the whole process of our government the whole

Uh, representative two party system. What happened there? Did I go away? It's all right. I'll get you back. Keep going Yeah, so I mean the whole representative two party system the whole constitutional republic the idea of voting itself is completely fake Uh, you know the the the whole premise of elections the whole premise of Republicans are going to war with this guy and democrats are you know, really No, I totally agree the republicans are soft playing it. They're not really winning. They're rolling over their pretendings What you're saying is the social contract is broken and the main talking points are 100 percent staged. I agree I don't believe that alex doesn't understand what stew is saying yet. He's rephrasing what stew said completely inaccurately stew is saying that the entire enterprise of civic involvement is meaningless and staged

There's no point in supporting a candidate because it's all bullshit voting doesn't matter going to your local board meeting doesn't matter It's all theater the idea of a democratic republic is bullshit It stew is being very clear about what he means. Yeah, and alex's takeaway from that is that the republicans are being weak And that talking points are staged whatever that means This isn't what stew is saying and I think there's two primary reasons alex has to do that little sleight of hand for the audience The first is that alex has now seen how ridiculously profitable it is to play around with partisan politics Particularly in intense general elections one of which is coming up next year He may have started his career rejecting the two-party system as a sham and ignoring elections

But that was then and this is now To go back to that rejection would be to abandon the ability to rally the audience around a strong man leader Which is a really lucrative game and alex has discovered that so lucrative The second thing that I think is alex is smart enough to realize that if all politics is bullshit And we are currently living under an occupied government that plans to kill everyone Then there is no peaceful solution left There's literally no excuse he can give to not be involved in insurrection because in essence the info war is over Or at very least the info war is only useful as a recruitment tool and a propaganda arm for the people participating in the actual war

Which would be an actual war right? alex loves to play around with ideas that the war is right around the corner But he desperately doesn't want it to actually be here because immediately his position disappears He knows that once shots start flying He has to either urge people to be reasonable and not fight Which will likely get him branded as a traitor by his own community Or he has to emphatically support the insurgency and I think he knows you'd be arrested immediately in that situation alex only has a state to exist in well the coming civil war is inevitably right around the corner yet never arriving

any other state of affairs is a Is just not going to work for him. It's a net negative I alex only ascends when society is in decline when it collapses alex is right and that that is a small part of the understanding of why alex was cautioning people and yelling like don't go into the capital in january six I was just thinking of that. Yeah. Yeah that he needs he needs to live in the point where it's about to happen But once once shit actually happens that like is a you know crossing the rubicon as it were Oh, yeah, he he doesn't have value. Yeah. No, it's a it's a delight to live in a comfortable Lovely city with a family and boats and shit. Yeah, it's not cool to like be on the front lines

Yeah, which you would never be no So we have one last clip here and they finally get around to talking about harari the the guru of the Uh world economic forum. Yeah the guy who claus schwaub listens to about eating bugs. All right And so there's a we're gonna hear a little harari clip and then Stu peters being a dumb dumb Look at this guy Of the new ai tools that can mass produce political manifestos

Fake news stories and even holy scriptures for new cars In recent years The politically influential qanon cult has formed around anonymous online texts Known as q drops Now followers of this cult, which are millions now in the u.s. In the rest of the world Collected revealed and interpreted these q drops as some kind of new scriptures as a sacred text Now to the best of our knowledge all previous q drops were composed by human beings And bots only helped to disseminate these texts online

But in future we might see the first cults and religions in history whose revealed texts Were written by a non human intelligence and of course religions throughout history Plained that their holy books were written by a non human intelligence. This was never true before this could become true Very very quickly. Whoa, bro. So let's expand on that. I do. I'm gonna keep one. I knew it Well, first give me your take on this and I've got my point Well, I mean he said it all he said we're going to rewrite scriptures We're gonna have ai that makes said it all people Especially the stuff he didn't say humans, but can actually turn them into gods

And said that to envision this is the this is the eternal life that they think that they can create for themselves Aside from you know drinking the blood of young children that they have no idea what they were talking about This is really seriously an issue when you have a criminal Openly telling you that they are going to hijack the rest of your life and remove the human What are you talking about completely an extinction level event that will be replaced by ai bots and robots But that is really shocking to listen to and people just say You know, well that guy is just crazy Everything that this guy says he fully intends on carrying out

Everything that these people say the criminals are telling you what they have to do is part of their satanic religion It's part of their devil horn worshiping that they have to tell you what their plan is they have to telegraph and project and tell you Learn learn things listen to abuse and to kill you and to take your kids and to snatch them up And to bring them out. Why do you think they metaphysically stupefieders need to do that? Well, I mean that's what they're told that they have to do in order to Honor their covenant with you know the devil the real enemy satan. Yeah, so they stupefieders believes in the cosmic Uh nonsense intergalactic laws. Yeah Oh

None nothing he said related at all to that clip. No. No. No. He didn't listen or understand or learn anything about it No, the the clip that played was somebody discussing a really interesting Maybe unforeseen possibility That it comes with the ai being able to write all this stuff. Yeah, you know, there could be Something like Q drops that end up being Created by artificial intelligence. Yeah, and people will be essentially following a non-human intelligence. Yeah in a way That's fascinating. Yeah, that's an that wouldn't be exactly what's going on They wouldn't be following a non-human intelligence

It would be correlated by a non-human intelligence theoretically if that's what he wants to describe it as but it's not an artificial intelligence That's creating a holy book At some point it might be it's possible. But yeah, that would I mean, yeah, I suppose right Right, I get what you're saying now the things that it would be pulling from would still be human derived right I I understand that as the like current status quo sure and the the near future, right? But yeah, there is a possible time when there could be a sophisticated enough ai that it could Uh create things like ai or uh like like Q drops out of nowhere, right?

Well, I mean if that's the case, I think we've we've we don't have to worry about anything anymore because the ai has already won I don't disagree that there's other things that would come along with it. The implications of that are so beyond reason I understand The point though is that that clip is just sort of a futurist talking about interesting Implications that may come along with the rise of technologies that are existing and are prevalent now That is not the way that they responded to it And I would say that if they wanted to get mad at him saying that other holy books weren't Derived from non-human intelligence. They could that could be something to take issue with

That would be a response where they could be mad and it would be responding to something that actually was said Agreed the rest of that. She I was not related it They they might as well have played a completely different clip. They might as well play no clip I know I mean it is it is one of those like Sometimes the starkness of their lack of curiosity is is mind-blowing You know whenever they pull that because honestly I started listening to that and that guy's thoughts made me excited like oh Yeah, yeah, let's think about this. Let's think about that. How did this work? I want to go learn more about how AI functions and these guys

None of that. No, they're just like That's because god like it's no it's even beyond a lack of curiosity in that sense It is because you're right because it's like okay complaining about horari is is hot in the conspiracy world right now So let's just take a clip and make up a bunch of shit about what you're saying. You're right It's lazy and non-creative and pandering. Yeah Yeah, god, it sucks. Yeah, that's like the worst form of communication. Yep, but it's what they do. So look um man, man present day sucks

But again, I mean like stew peters being around is kind of like I don't think it's it's not his first time being on the show, but like it is something that is Not good. No the two of them But here's the here's the other thing though, too is like there's very similar Yeah, two of them being together doesn't worry me as much as like him and steven Crowder You know because they're very different in terms of their appeal and their demographics and stuff stew peters and alex probably have a lot of overlap I bet they could just sit and talk like if they did a show together

I bet they could just sit and agree with each other's nonsense that has no relation to anything for hours probably. Yeah, but Um, I will I will say I guess I appreciate the tom wrens made me feel angry. Hmm because it's something I here's here's what I appreciate the present day where I'm just cold. Here's what I appreciate about tom wrens um, I wrote down Lorenzo law mess For his blog. So we'll be back Uh, see la w. I got it. Okay. Are you sure? We'll let the audience decide on this one

Uh, we'll be back. We don't need We don't need anybody to decide anything the decision was made executive. All right, so we'll see you for another episode But until then we have a website. Oh, indeed. We do it's elechfight.com. Yep. We're also on twitter We are on twitter. Is that knowledge underscore fight? Yep, we'll be back. But until then i'm neo. I'm leo. I'm dzx clark I got to come up with something new i'm tired of scatting already. It's uh, I don't really have that many rhythms Oh, yeah Yeah, and now here comes the sex robots andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding Hello, i like some of the first time color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you