Knowledge Fight - #813: May 29, 2023
Episode Date: June 2, 2023Today, Dan and Jordan finally have some new Alex to cover. In this installment, Alex broadcasts from a laptop in a hotel room, where he sings the praises of the John Birch Society, announces the dem...ise of Budweiser, and insists that everyone actually really does like him.
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I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Workable dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Jordan.
Dan?
I have a quick question for you today, sir.
What's up?
What's your price about today?
My price about right now is actually after I said the altar of Celine,
Celine came up to me and I'm petting her as I'm speaking.
Let's see if she has anything to say.
Wow.
Oh, that was a good saline take.
That was a good cut that, clean it up.
That goes in the opening.
We're rarely able to capture that on Mike.
She does not usually like it when I put a mic
in front of her face.
Now that was perfect.
And now she has walked off gone forever.
That is not my bright spot though, though, pretty fun.
Pretty solid.
So look, here's the deal.
You like peanut butter.
I have heard of it. You love it. I do love it. You like peanut butter. I have heard of it You love it. I do love you love Reese's love them your wife is allergic
She it would kill her yeah, really killer. So that is a difficult position for you to be in it's what it's a Romeo and Juliet
Horatio kind of situation. I'm 50 50 on it. You're 50 50 on it as a positive or no
I mean, I like it fine
I'm saying that your wife no peanut butter, right?
You love it love peanut butter me in the middle somewhere in the middle, but I understand it. I get it
The pre-amplum is spectacular
I do not know where this is going man. I get peanut butter. No, I do not know where this is going. Hey man, I get peanut butter.
No, um, so, uh, a little bit back.
Yeah. My buddy, Nikki Gifts, um, we periodically will, uh, you know,
text each other pictures of new candies.
That you see it to check out aisle, right?
You know, yeah.
And he sent me a picture of Reese's.
They have a new, uh, creamy variety.
And I always thought like, I don't feel like it's not creamy.
I felt like it was creamy.
I don't know what the difference of this is going to be.
And I just let it be.
Mike, I don't know.
I'm not interested.
Yeah, the day I saw Reese's creamy, decided to grab it so good.
So good?
So it's better.
Really?
Yes.
What do they call it? Do they call it a Reese's creamy?
Yeah.
No, that's the worst name I can think of.
It was only after eating one that I realized how grainy, kind of the normal Reese's is.
Yeah.
That's pretty grainy.
Yeah, but you kind of just think like, yeah, it's the texture.
Sure.
You used to.
That's the Reese's texture.
You don't think that you would want other.
Well, I would be concerned that it would be more like a caramel soft like that,
like that kind of pole.
It's just like creamy peanut butter.
Goddamn kind of.
Well, and it's great.
And this led me to a conversation with Nikki Gifts about how this was great,
because he said, it's not that different.
Okay.
I think it's worlds apart.
I'll ever go back.
Okay.
Until they make you go back. Yeah. Until they make you go back.
Yeah.
Until Doritos gets wind of your other shit.
And this got me into a conversation with him about a creamy and chunky peanut butter.
Okay.
Now I don't know if you have a preference.
Oh, I very much do.
What is it?
Extra crunchy.
Oh, give me full peanuts in there.
See, I want a whole peanut to crunch on.
Just put peanuts on a piece of bread then man
Get them what I will just soak some peanuts
Good These are my dipping peanuts. Yeah, these are yeah
My preference is creamy. Uh-huh, and here's the reason I like peanuts as well
I don't mind I don't mind the fact that peanuts. I have a crunch to them right, but it's a butter
It is a butter. I don't mind the fact that peanuts have a crunch to them. Right. But it's a butter. It is a butter.
I don't want crunchy butter.
Like, if you had margarine, do you want chunks in it?
It's a butter.
I mean, is there a presser?
Alright, let me ask you a question.
It's a smooth product.
When you make mashed potatoes,
Yeah.
You leave the skins in or not?
Well, I don't think I've ever actually made mashed potatoes myself.
Oh. Because I'm lazy.
And growing up, always no skin.
No skins when you're growing up.
That was how my parents did it.
So that's kind of what I'm used to.
Well, no wonder you like the smooth peanut butter.
What are you talking about?
I'm telling you that when you make it with the skins, it's better.
But look, I don't mind.
Well, here's the thing.
You make it with the skins and also have it be real smooth?
You can, but it's got a little bit of texture in there.
It should be smooth.
They are smooth with a little bit of texture.
Oh, man.
Look, I like French fries, but I also don't mind a potato wedge.
That's got the skin on it.
It's true.
How about that?
Look, that's different though.
Because I would say that mashed potatoes are not a butter.
You put butter in mashed potatoes.
Sure.
Sure.
Alright, fwagra, what is that?
Is that a butter?
I would never eat fwagra.
I mean, I'm not a fool.
I don't know.
Don't they like it, right?
But don't they like shove stuff into groups?
They would speed goose to, yeah.
Is that what that is?
I think so.
Oh, I thought that was, what's, what's paté?
Is it, oh man, I'm out, I'm out of all food conversations
forever.
Speaking of which, it brings me to another bright spot.
What's that?
I constantly, like Celine loves wet food.
Sure.
And I've always been in a position where she will only eat
the stuff that's extra gravy, like a little bit of,
you know, chunks of meat or whatever.
I ordered a large shipment of wet food
from the delivery, the pet place.
Wherever, yeah, yeah.
I came up with the name.
And I accidentally got the pate.
And I was like, she's not gonna eat any of this.
I don't want to send it back.
Yeah.
So I just started giving it to her and she loves it.
She loves it.
She loves it.
She loves pate. She's a cat. And it's smooth. That's the point. Okay. I got it. Anyway, what's your
bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is tomorrow. Today, when you are listening to this, a movie
will be released named Spider-Man across the universe.
It's the sequel to the...
Oh my God.
That's where the spider was right.
I'm so excited.
I can't begin to describe how excited I am.
Do we got Nick Cage in that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I've tried to keep myself unaware of anything.
I watched, so the first movie came out and I was fired
on ceremoniously, almost simultaneously.
And part of that like weird process that I went through
was watching the same time frame.
Yeah, wow.
I watched into the spider verse
probably a hundred times, like over and over.
Like I didn't have anywhere to go during the day
and I didn't know what to do with myself.
So I just kept watching into the spider verse
depressed out of my mind, you know.
And so it is a perfect movie,
and I could not be more excited
for across the spiderverse.
I'm bubbling, I'm going to go as soon as I possibly can
tomorrow morning.
It's gonna be amazing.
I'm excited for you.
Oh, I'm so excited.
That's one of the movies where everybody
who's ever talked about it has talked about how great it is.
I believe them.
It is a perfect one.
And I have accepted that it is fantastic.
Yeah.
And yet I have not seen it.
No, and I understand, you know us.
I've never pushed it on you.
But it may, if the opportunity arose,
where someone was like, hey, here it is, watch it.
I would say yes in an instant.
Oh, man.
But going out of my way, taking that second step,
it almost never happens with movies. Yeah. Like right now, I brought up Nicholas Cage.
True. Uh, I would love to see that Renfield movie, not going to do it until it's put in
front of me. That's what I miss about having TV and cable. Yeah. That ability to just
click and like, oh, that's on the passive, the passive acceptance of somebody curating
for you. Right. Or what I went to the movie theater where it's just like well
It's what's on. I just got off shift. I'm gonna watch this stuff. Right right right because of movies being on TV
That's why I saw a national treasure like 30 times right because it's always on and I always want to watch
This is Nicholas Cage heavy at the moment. Yeah, there is, there is an element of like, sometimes I would like to have to find something
and sometimes the, the, just the, the simple effort of being like, oh, I'm going to choose
to go watch this movie is beyond what you can handle and you just rather be like, oh,
somebody did something for me, that's what I'm doing today. Yeah, I get you.
Yeah, it's almost enough for me to think about like,
I'm gonna just get cable.
Yeah, I don't think I will though.
Yeah, well, I will say this to you.
Into the Spider-Verse is probably
one of the top three animated movies ever made
in top five, any.
It's right up there with Cool World.
No, it's right up there with Princess
Mano No.K. That's what we're talking about. What about who framed Roger Rabbit? Do
you classify that as an animated movie? No, that's not a that's a hybrid movie.
Interesting. Well, I mean, all, all, all Lloyd movies are technically cartoons
also. What about Adam's family, technically a cartoon, anything with John Lydon it.
Yep.
Emperor's new groove, that's gotta be up there.
That's great.
That's a great one, not up there.
Patrick Warburton, performance of a lifetime.
I really did launch a voiceover career
that I think is never gonna end.
Yeah, solid.
Yeah.
So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
Indeed.
And finally Alex is back. Oh no, we're in the present studio. That's not actually true
He's not in studio. Okay, and we'll get into that when we do all right
But yeah, he's back on air at least. Uh-huh
And so we're gonna be talking about May 29th
That's Memorial Day. Sure. Uh. Right. And yeah, it's weird.
It's weird. Yeah. That sounds right. He's in a hotel room. Okay, we're already off to a good
start. Why is he in a hotel room? He's on a like two week vacation or something. I don't know
what's going on here. Oh my God. As of the time of recording, he is still in this hotel room. I don't know what's going on is he is this fear loathing in Las Vegas?
Is style are we as you do in blow with fucking Johnny Depp or something what is happening? Definitely drinking
Oh, that's yeah, that's for sure. That's fair. That's fair. You do hear a couple times
things that are very clearly him drinking
Wow, the camera has cut away from him.
Yeah, I don't know. It's very mysterious.
But based on everything I know about the world he's in right now,
I'd be on long vacations too.
That may not be an option soon.
So good for you Alex.
Yeah, good luck.
Spread that money before someone else can take it from you.
Oh God.
So we'll get down to business on a lot of feelings about this,
but before we do, let's say hello, Jordan,
to some new wanks.
Oh, that's great idea.
So first, Burb with Knife, thank you so much,
you are now, policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, next, Captain Bark Richards.
Thank you so much, you are now, policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
And Doug's a murderer.
Next, the plural form of Lego is Lego. Thank you so much, you are now, policy wonk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And Doug's a murderer. Uh, next, the plural form of Lego is Lego.
Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk.
I'm a policy walk.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Next, Norm Patis, and I'm afraid my prank on Alex has gotten out of hand.
Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk.
I'm a policy walk.
Thank you very much.
Next, uh, congratulations, Emily and Mary on the wife house, house for wives and dog
walks. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk. I wives and dog walks. Thank you so much you and I'll policy won
I'm a policy won. Thank you very much and we got a technocrat of the mix Jordan
So thank you so much to someone someone
Tanner sent me a bucket of silly gooses. Thank you so much you and I will technocrat. I'm a policy won
I'm gonna tell you
Someone someone satamite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
Get more than tell it you're brilliant someone someone satamite sent me a book in a poop daddy shark
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ
Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much. See this is kind of fun too now
Before I would go through and get a wonk names
Mm-hmm fun to now before I would go through and get a wonk names and now how we have it you gather
them and send them to me in an email and it's fun to cold read them.
Yeah, it's been a while since you had to do that.
I appreciate you doing that and then also the added thing of the like what is this?
Yeah, yeah, it's trying to figure it out as I read it.
Is this a joke
I remember I remember early on whenever you were still trying to do it straight from the patreon site
Mm-hmm, and it was it was interesting because you'd be you'd have to like look down at it look and then you it was it was fun
It's it's impossible now it's not boxes a disaster terrifying
Many apologies if you want to shout out send an email to knowledgefightagmail.com.
Jordan will sort you out.
I read them. I will forward them. I will take care of it.
Um, so yeah, like I said, Alex is in this, this hotel room and, um, very exciting, uh,
to have him back.
Yeah.
And here we go.
Uh, the, the king has returned or something. It's Memorial Day.
It's Monday, May 29, 2020, 300.
I have a chance.
I'll be hosting today.
I have a turn to the airwaves.
And I'm here on Memorial Day.
It's such an important day.
Let me look at what our country's turned into and where we're going and what some of
the thought died for for the future and the existence of this
republic.
But I wanted to talk about someone who fought in the Info War, some kind of was strong.
That was Robert Welsh for the John Merch Society who was targeted by the ADL, the CIA,
that was the classified two weeks ago, the National Campaign of Infiltration of L actual campaign of infiltration of lies, of of of lawsuits, the harassment of just criminal activity,
a truly authoritarian, authoritarian activity.
So Alex is back.
He's on this webcam sitting in hotel room.
Owens in the studio and does some of the anchor duties
like the two of them co-hosts for part of it,
but Alex is, he's around for most of the episode,
not the third hour.
He legitimately looks insane.
Since the camera is the level of quality
you find built into a laptop,
and the shot is angled upward like it would be
from a laptop.
Oh my God.
Are you serious?
Yes.
Have some professional sense.
It's wild.
That's unreal.
He's just sitting alone and what appears
to be a fairly nice hotel room,
ranting about nonsense.
Well, we're forced to watch him from what appears to be below him.
It's a very unappealing thing.
It's a bad look,
and it really does not inspire confidence in this operation.
That's not good.
Honestly, he could get a better quality shot
if he just got a little mount for an iPhone.
Yeah.
It doesn't, it looks worse than,
I've seen people doing live streams out in public.
Yeah. You know, that's not good.
No, that's not good.
As to that stuff about the John Birch society, we covered that on our last
present day episode. And I want to really focus in on what Alex is
claiming. He said that Robert Welsh and the JBS were targeted by the ADL
and the CIA. And this was declassified last week.
In reality, what happened was that last week Alex skimmed a headline of an article about
a historian who was interviewed about a book he'd put out recently.
The book was about the John Birch society, and one chapter had to do with the fact that
some of the members of the ADL had infiltrated the JBS on fact-finding missions.
Nothing was declassified, and the CIA wasn't in cahoots with these ADL members who went
undercover.
This is a slippery way that Alex uses language to exaggerate his own oppression and the
oppression of his ideological allies and the way he tries to dress it up in the appearance
of official dumb.
It sounds so much cooler to say the CIA was targeting his buddies and that this was declassified
as opposed to how dorky it sounds to complain about an interview with an author that you didn't even read.
He didn't read the book, he didn't read the interview, and you didn't read the article
about the interview.
Yeah, yeah, you know the thought occurs that like if you because his telling of the story
and the one that is real are so different.
Yeah.
Like even if you would listen to him tell it the first time,
then looked it up and we're like,
well that's not the same story.
You would be forgiven for thinking,
oh, I just mistaken the wrong one.
Mm-hmm.
Because they're so unrelated.
Oh, it's not like, oh, he's taking the wrong bits
of information.
He's making up something whole cloth.
Yeah, and there's a couple things
that are important to like really tease out of this.
And the first is he's saying this stuff was declassified.
Right.
It wasn't.
No.
This author had found some documents in the Jewish Historical Society's archive.
Right.
It wasn't declassified.
It was not a declassified to begin with.
It was a, it was a bias.
Right.
And this calls into question.
You should keep in mind every time Alex says things are declassified.
Sure.
This is the kind of thing he's willing to call declassified
because it elevates and serves his purposes to do so.
Now second, you gotta recognize what the point of this is.
And that is the feature of this
is defending the John Birch society sort of.
And that is because his argument is that the ADL agents infiltrated and then
got all racist in order to make the JBS look racist. Again, the ADL took over the JBS in order
to make them an anti-semitic organization. Right. Yes. And somehow planted a reveal of Piala
ver as one of the founding members. And yeah, all there is all that very believable. Is a brilliant scheme.
So but that is only the surface of what the purpose this serves is and the reason that
Alex is bringing it back up and seems to be very interested in making this a a focus
of his rhetoric and in coverage.
And that is that it also now applies to every other racist group that he's super cool
with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All of these groups that are carrying out exercises and are definitely threats to commit
domestic violence and terrorism.
Sure.
People like the Patriot Front are now just proven.
It's been declassified that the ADL just infiltrated the Patriot Front and did all this Nazi stuff in order to create the appearance that they're actually a Nazi group.
Really, they just want, you know, people to have nice families.
Right. Now, I understand the point here. Do you?
I think what I'm struggling with is this. Although it does at the same time seem inevitable. It appears that far-right Nazi organizations
now claim that the Jews run everything so much to the point.
They include themselves.
Yes.
Well, I don't think that the Nazi organizations themselves
would say that, but people providing cover for them
may do that.
Right. And I think it would be an interesting question to ask if these Nazi organizations would reset that or if they appreciate the cover that
People like Alex would provide them by creating these narratives. I feel like I would I would I feel like here's the thing
Sure, you can have your your the cause is greater for Nazidom,
you know, like we'll accept the abuse
in order to then become successful.
But I feel like you go to Nazidom
because you can't accept the abuse in the first place.
So you're more likely to be resentful.
I feel like the sort of opponent I would,
like more like to be up against
would be the person who resented Alex for it.
Because that person feels like more ideological
than opportunistic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've got something.
I don't like them.
No, no, I don't want to say they've got something.
I don't want to say it either.
I don't know why I felt the need to.
So Alex is going to play some clips of Robert Welch.
Okay, all right. I'm going to play some clips of Robert Welch. Okay.
All right.
I'm going to air at service for an hour long space you gave it out of the A.I.
here today, but here's a few minutes out.
A part of that plan, of course, is to induce the graduate of American sovereignty,
piece by piece and step by step, to various international organizations, of which the United Nations is the outstanding,
but far from the only example.
Man.
So this is Alex's Memorial Day show,
and he seems to be starting out suggesting
that Robert Welsh is someone to celebrate on that holiday.
This should be deeply offensive to the veterans
and enlisted persons in Alex's audience
since Memorial Day is about honoring soldiers
who died in service.
Robert Welsh never served the country,
and he died peacefully at age 85.
Nothing about his life in any way qualifies him
to be a figure to take time out for
and celebrate on Memorial Day.
And even if it's true that Alex just wants to talk
about the Info War Memorial Day,
you know, maybe if that's the case,
I guess that would be a data honor
those people who've died in the pursuit of stupid
Anti-communist conspiracy theories, but even that Robert Welsh wouldn't qualify for.
No, no.
I'm not sure who would qualify, but I'm guessing it's a massive creeps and probably people who have done mass shootings.
I know there are some people who would qualify and I don't think I would enjoy any one of them.
No.
No.
No, Alex might include like
Timothy McVeigh. It does feel like Timothy McVeigh is at the top of that list, right?
Yeah. Am I crazy for thinking? My first thought was like, oh, well, he's thinking of Timothy McVeigh.
But then again, Alex thinks that Timothy McVeigh was sheep dipped and he was, you know, he was a
sat up. So he can't be eligible for the info. See, this is very good. Oh my god. It's once you,
uh, uh, what tangled webs we
have. So you might think that Alex listened to this Robert Welch speech and thought it was so
powerful. So he decided, I'm going to select a clip here, but you'd be wrong. There's a watermark
on it for an account called at I'm meme zero, who has the handle I meme. Therefore I am. It's a super cool meme guy, clearly.
This account posted the small excerpt of Welch's speech on Twitter on May 26th then retweeted
it a couple days later, so Alex clearly saw it and decided to run with it as a news item
because he's dumb and lazy.
Also not for nothing, this account also tweeted out a video with a caption, quote, "'Sense veterans day is almost over. I just want you to always remember this message.'"
Then there's like an American flag emoji.
Veterans day is in November.
Anyway, this account is just a constant barrage
of right-wing culture war type whining,
about things like how corporations are too woke
as they celebrate pride,
and they also seem to be really mad about Black Lives Matter.
Yeah.
Also a small point, this speech wasn't from 1958.
It's a recording from 1974, but the title on the YouTube video that I meme zero is taking
this from, the title is, quote, Robert Welch speech, parentheses greatest speech in America
in 1958.
These people haven't even watched the source material the pull out in this from or know
anything about the subject.
The dead giveaways should be one, the actual speech is titled 15 years ago,
referring to the founding of the John Birch society being 15 years in the past in 1958.
And this is also a speech that Welch originally gave in 1973, so that's why it's 15 years ago.
Okay.
So if I understand correctly, the speech we are listening to, Robert Welch gave in 1973.
Initially, but the recording is from 74.
Right.
And so the speech is in regards to events that happened in 1958.
Yes, and it's mostly a rehashing of the material that ended up becoming the blue book of the John Birch society, which was mostly taken from the lecture that he gave at that first meeting when he was recruiting
people like reveal O.P. Oliver, and what have you. So that's what this is. And then the
second claiming that it's from 1958. The memes are claiming. The memes are claiming. Yes.
And then Alex is just repeating that because he doesn't know anything about this. Right.
The second dead giveaway should be that the MC for this event is John McManus who's credited as the director of public relations
McManus would go on to be the president of the John Birch society
But he didn't even join until 1966 and wasn't given the title of the head PR guy until 1973
I may be telling you something you already know, but meme accounts rarely provide accurate
useful information.
Alex isn't a scholar about his own cultural lineage or his ideological successors.
He doesn't know anything about this Robert Welch speech outside of the fact that he
posted a Dumbass meme Twitter account.
That Welch speech is actually about an hour and 45 minutes long, not an hour long, and
it's more or less just a verbal version
of the blue book.
Welch speaks for a very long time and is very boring,
but he is introduced to stage by another one of the founding
members of the John Birch Society, one of the other people
there who was there at that first meeting, one of the original
12.
If you include Welch himself, no, Fred Koch was another of the founding members.
But this is William J. Grady, who was the owner of Grady Foundry's Incorporated, one of the largest steel and iron producers in the country at the time.
In addition to that, as is put in his obituary from the New York Times, quote, from 1956 to 1961, he was a top official at J.I.
Case Company, a manufacturer of farm equipment. In both of these capacities,
Grady had run-ins with organized labor and he hated unions. What? In 1960,
auto workers, United Auto Workers declared a strike over breaches of collective
bargaining and some messiness with paid vacation days at J.I. Case. Grady threatened to leave the city if workers didn't get back to work, but that move wasn't
successful and the strike ended up being resolved after six months. J.I.K.S has a long history
of ending up in strikes. They had a van record setting 440-day strike that ended in 1947.
Before that, they had a 108-day strike in 1937. Reading over how that was covered
in the New York Times is really interesting and definitely gives you quite a sense that maybe the
Times wasn't so behind organized labor. The first of the 1800 production workers thrown into
idleness when the picketing forced the closing of the farm machinery manufacturing plants last October, we'll return to work tomorrow.
You're forced to die.
Wow.
Wow, guys.
You're showing a little bit.
Yeah.
You're showing just a little.
That's an article, by the way, not an editorial in the terms.
I don't want to know what the Wall Street Journal's board wanted to say about that one.
J.I.K.
has a long history with strikers and it was well known that their leadership
was very hostile toward unions and collective bargaining as a whole.
And Grady Foundry's was no different.
William Grady hated the idea of the needs and rights of workers getting in the way of his
ability to make money, so it should be no surprise that in 1952 he became the president
of the National Association of Manufacturers, a lobbying group that was very focused on fighting against the power of unions and workers' rights.
The National Association of Manufacturers was the recruiting pool that Robert Welsh picked
the first members of the John Birch Society from, as Welsh himself was on their board.
At least half of the founding members were in high-level positions with the National
Association of Manufacturers, and there was a targeted effort on Welch's part to find new members for the JBS from within
the National Association of Manufacturers.
I go down this road a little bit because it's important to understand that what motivated
a lot of the anti-communist fervor in the people who inspired much of Alex's worldview
is that they hated paying workers fair wages, and they didn't want dumb things like safety
precautions to cut into their profits. is that they hated paying workers fair wages, and they didn't want dumb things like safety precautions
to cut into their profits.
There's obviously a bit more to the birchers
than what goes into their worldview,
but this is not an insignificant piece of it.
Yeah, I mean, I would argue that most of the trappings
around it are trappings, because the fundamental thing is,
I wanna make as much money as I possibly can.
And it's very difficult when you look at the actual, like the, the, the details of who
is involved and how they organized and, and all this stuff to, it's tough to get away
from that stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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you do that? What did you find it somewhere? Did somebody have it that wasn't on a
meme account, Dan? Yeah. Now if the danger from the communist conspiracy
were all we had to worry about, it would be enough. But in my opinion, the first great basic weakness of the United States and hence its susceptibility
to the disease of collectivism is simply the age of the Western European civilization.
Some of you will already have recognized in fact that I am drawing a corollary to the
conclusions usually connected with the name of Osville Spangler.
Spangler's theory is absolutely fatal to the acceptance of socialism or any form of
collectivism as a forward step or as a form of progress in man's sociological arrangements.
For in Spangler's view, collectivism is a disease of society,
concomitant with decay and remarkably similar to cancer
in the individual.
Oswald Spangler died in 1935 and he is what you might call a Nazi.
Yeah, that is to say that he supported Hitler
and the National socialists,
but felt that their focus on pure German people
wouldn't be appealing enough to other potential allies.
It's like a woke Nazi, you might say.
He wasn't necessarily an anti-Semite,
but he was a scholarly voice who helped champion the ideas
that brought Hitler and the Nazis into power.
He was also really fucked up, dude.
A 1939 article about him in the National Journal of Literature and Discussion said, quote,
Spengler has sailed modern medicine for interfering with natural selection and for accelerating
racial decay. A strong race he defined as one with an inexhaustible birth rate, compensating
for severe selection process, which is provided by the resistances to living, represented by misfortune,
sickness and war. The test of race for him was the speed of reproduction. So yeah, he hated medicine
because he wanted everybody just to like, yeah, you got sick because you're weak. Right, right,
right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You Genesis are usually not cool guys. Did you ever notice that?
Yeah, he seems to suck. Spangler's most famous work is
undoubtedly the decline of the West, which is a bit of what, you know, Welch is pulling from here.
It's essentially a call for the rise of new Caesar-like dictators. That's the way that you get rid of
this cancer of collectivism. Yeah, I mean, he might as well have been writing Leviathan all over again.
That book is also where the expression, blood and soil comes from, so that's far. of collectivism. He might as well have been writing Leviathan all over again.
That book is also where the expression, blood and soil comes from, so that's far.
Great!
I don't know if I'm meme zero wants to talk about it.
I mean, I know they like it, but I don't think they want to own it.
Probably not.
So, a lot of this episode, I gotta say, is Alex talking about how much people like him,
which is sad as he's just on a laptop.
He's hiding in a motel room!
Let me just kind of sit back and say something here that's really important
before I had all the big news and it's huge.
A couple weeks ago I was on TV on the program of Steve-Man and he asked me,
are we winning?
And I said, well, all I can use is a gauge of what I see
out in the public.
I'm a well-known person.
The average person is not well known,
so they don't really get to have that experience.
But the feedback is.
It's true.
I've ever talked about this a hundred times.
Listen, it's don't need me to repeat it,
but basically I talked about the fact
that I've got 95% love over the years, but still
You know, I would get five percent hate and when you're walking down the street, that's that's still quite a bit so for every
Military at 90 people 95 people I shook their hands. I would run into four or five said
I took her hands, I would run into four or five, said, hear Russian, Asian, I hope you die or something like that.
Yeah, you understand five percent.
Coffee on me, tea on me, slapping the back of the head.
A lot of it has been called on video.
People know what happens to prominent populists
and America first, as a conservative.
And then I talked about how it's been like eight, nine months
since that's happened one time.
By the way, it did happen finally last week.
The guy said, how dare you show your face
of public, that would be a sham, you yourself.
I started laughing at him.
He was a lot of, well, maddening on the right.
So that she killed 500,000 kids with sanctions
would do it again on 60 minutes.
Is that good?
Ha ha ha.
Good, that's killing the kids, no.
Great conversation.
It's a good question.
But all I get is love now.
And I noticed they had a bunch of publications.
We'll say, look how crazy Jones is.
No one loves him.
Everybody hates him.
That's like Tokyo Rose.
Broadcasting the American sailors and Marines.
When we were right off the coast of Japan and already bombed them in the Stone Age.
We used to before we dropped comic bombs on Hiroshima and Nakasaki, saying the
Americans are defeated, America's on fire, no one cares about you, it's all over, you've lost the war.
Yeah, so we've documented over the years, Alex constantly saying that, oh, now everyone loves me.
It used to be that everyone was me and to be, but now they're also nice to me. It's very,
you know, over different periods of time.
He just constantly tells the story in order to provide morale for the troops.
It's where in his audience.
A little bit in the, like, Tokyo Rose.
You know, like, I guess there was like, I don't know, maybe it was a media
matters article or something, but yeah, someone was someone posted a video of that that went around and people were making fun of it
And it's like well, he says this all the time. Yeah, but people don't realize that he says this all the time
Right, and so seeing it with fresh eyes was kind of funny
I guess for people I suppose and so now Alex is using this as a
Chance for him to complain about how people actually do love him. Oh my god people do do do
Everybody needs to know the cycle how it works, right? Like it is it we learned about the water cycle when I was in elementary school
And I think that's when we should have learned about the bullshit cycle to where it's like oh this guy says bullshit and people are all like
Look at how stupid that bullshit is and then that gets more attention to that guys like my bullshit's not stupid and then people are like ah, there's so much bullshit
That's it and it's it's a really fun game because Alex is talking about stuff that didn't happen
Yeah, and then these people are saying yeah, haha this didn't happen and he's saying it did happen. Yeah
Yes, yes, that is the level of discourse that we have risen to it's pretty fun
No people do like me. Thank you very much
It's pretty fun because he ends up just kind of obsessing about this
Okay, so what I'm gonna do just for the last there are how much the eighth is all we hit is I'm gonna start taking film crews out
In to downtown Austin and the University of Texas the most liberal places and
I'm gonna I mean all I gotta do
the most liberal place. And I'm going to, I mean, all I got to do at the hotel I'm at is just walk us to turn a lobby for two minutes and more than half the people that come through
to my room are listeners. I can't buy myself a drink. I can't buy myself dinner. Um,
I'm going to get you to my family. Can't leave this hotel. That's not about all of
shows. How great I am. It is an indicator of how awake people have gotten in other pistol systems.
And so the last one she'd have filled alone in on the popular populism is in America first
is.
So just for them, and I thought about how important this is, I'm going to go out and I'm going
to do live feeds. By just getting edited in, people will like me.
Because it would be very entertaining to haters, even better to illustrate.
I'm sure we'll get some of those.
You have a big crowd in a form.
There'll be some.
But once that happens, I'll do an hour live feeds, stay on 6th Street.
There'll be four or or a lot of feeds. Stay on six three.
There'll be four or five people that hate me. There'll be a couple
hundred that love me.
And you watch the mainstream
media will cut out the haters and
put that up. That's okay.
That's why they're dead.
That's why they're politically
obviously is everybody knows they
close up again. So we'll put out
the raw feed and live
stream and then we'll watch the
media go and just see if everybody hates me. You'll see the raw seed which 99% love.
And so that's what I'm getting at here is the love is way more intense than it's ever been.
I, uh, miss the same story I'll remember him if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if sloshing there and um, seriously, it's like, uh, at that point,
someone cut away from his, uh, oh yeah, laptop feed.
Right there. Yeah, and there's just some B roll of Alex high-fiving people at,
uh, Trump rally five years ago. Huh. Oh boy. Uh, strange.
I think whenever a narcissist is trapped in a hotel room still trying to lie about themselves, it's pretty funny. It is.
It's pretty funny, especially because he's sitting here and he's saying, all right, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna illustrate how much people love me by going down to six street.
Yeah, I'm gonna keep. I'm just do the raw feed. I'm gonna do the raw feed. Now the media will only cut out the show you the bad stuff.
That's what they'll do.
He's making up stories about a fake thing he hasn't done and isn't going to do.
Yep.
And what the media is gonna do about it.
Uh-huh.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah.
He's doing that and he's just giving himself a very unconvincing no.
People, tons of people love me.
Yeah.
People love me.
And then some long pauses. But it's good. People love me and then some long pauses But it's good people of me you do start to realize the difference between
Recording in a studio and talking into a laptop and how much a laptop is similar to a mirror
You just look right into yourself and you feel bad people of me. Oh, no
So Rogan sent Alex a video That's about all you need to know. You know things are viral.
One two separate big podcasters in the in the last 12 hours have sent me the same video.
And I was intending to air this video today and I'm going to air it because it's dead on and I'm going to air it is dead on and I'm going to air it in its entirety.
So I've been spent to last night and then literally five minutes ago.
The number one spot yesterday in the world said holy bleep this video is insane.
Family shot.
I said yes actually was just planning to air that today.
And what is the video?
Joseph and me, the Kim.com tweet.
This is the most important video you will watch this year.
Millions were killed with COVID-19 for profit.
COVID-19 was an act of biological war for subsistence.
On the human race, it was a financial heist.
Nature was hijacked.
Science was hijacked.
This is from the recent international COVID summit at the EU,
Muslim European Parliament.
So far, 786 million COVID infections have been recorded.
And the breakdown here is absolutely critical.
And we're going to be getting to that coming up here on a special Memorial Day broadcast.
You're not just going to remember the troops that were killed by the administration.
We should now know the American people, people of the world are the victims of a biological warfare attack.
Really stretching the Memorial Day theme here.
Thanks.
So yeah, one of the things that's fun about this episode is that Alex
introduces a lot of these topics and talks shit about them. And then whenever he leaves,
Owen plays these things and he's kind of left with the heavy lifting. So what are you
talking about here that Kim.com tweeted about the Joe sent him was there's a clip about
a guy ranting about how COVID's a bio weapon. He's sitting in front of the EU flag apparently
at a meeting of the EU parliament.
Oh, forgot sex.
This guy is a COVID conspiracy hot shot pun intended named
Dr. David Martin, and he's trying to bring back the bow tie look,
which isn't going great.
Not gonna happen.
He spends the first six minutes of the clip talking about how
we've known about coronavirus is for decades,
which I found uninteresting, but he was presenting
as if it's mind
blowing information. Anyway, this was from an event called the International COVID Summit 3,
which has the air of a real serious event, but it's actually just a propaganda performance.
Did Tim Gunn direct that or Jim Jim Gunn direct that one too? No, no, no, no, no, okay.
Robert Malone, I believe. Oh, boo. It was a hot lineup of COVID weirdos. Like I mentioned, Robert Malone,
this David Martin, chair, Cory,
and a bunch of international folks
who we haven't necessarily met in our coverage
but are very similar to the folks we have.
The International COVID Summit was apparently hosted
by certain members of the European Parliament,
but they're referred to as, quote,
non-attached members of the Parliament,
which means that their individuals in the Parliament who are not part of any party that has any real sway,
right?
They're kind of rogue agents within an ineffectual, yeah, yeah, we're kind of assholes,
you've suddenly got in there and there we are.
They're people who are part of parties with one or two members in the parliament.
Therefore, they don't have any actual voting power.
As the name might suggest, this was the third such summit that this collection of COVID conspiracists have held, and it's not fair to say that it was in front of the full
parliament. I don't think it was like a couple of powerless members of the parliament hosted it,
but the actual you I'm not sure if it was a full assembly for this masterpertory ass event.
I would I mean, I would say that a lot of the speeches that you might see on C-SPAN whenever they show the
Senator speaking directly and they don't show the crowd
because the crowd is three other senators.
Yeah, and everybody else is gone.
And they're passing the Fed.
Totally.
Yeah, that's how it works.
Wayne.
Yeah, so I looked over the line up.
There's a veteran area in there
from the Netherlands are doing the vaccines
or killing people.
All right, they had a self-help coach from Canada
complaining about the media.
And they had a doctor named Ryan Cole
who's about to lose his license.
Cole is an interesting case
because he was very happy to profit from COVID early on
as he ran a little lab in Garden City, Idaho,
which he presented to Medicaid as quote,
using fully automated high volume systems
that he could use to run tests.
I like that.
The problem is that he wasn't doing that.
That's a trouble.
And they couldn't handle the load they claimed they could.
Cole claimed that they could handle all this testing.
And he accepted over $500,000 in government funds,
which allegedly did not go to the ends of COVID testing.
Oh, that's a surprise.
A former molecular diagnostic supervisor there
told the Idaho Capitol Sun, quote,
it was volume
over safety and accuracy.
Cole diagnostics was a small lab at the beginning of 2020 and took on more than what Dr. Cole
promised and said that it could do that summer.
All in all, Cole was given over more than a million dollars in government funds, specifically
for COVID related activity.
He was more than happy to use the pandemic to get a ton of free money early on.
But now the grifts kind of moved on. And now we have just got to be like, yeah, a woman named Andrea
Wynn told the paper that the lab took shortcuts when doing COVID testing. Quote, given Dr.
Cole's public statements downplaying the severity of the virus, it makes sense that he was permissive
of a lowered standard of testing. He either did not believe or refuse to acknowledge that bad results were of potentially high
consequence to his patients and the public.
She went on to say, quote, we were told to run specimens where we knew the integrity had
been compromised, certainly.
The paper spoke to two other former employees and reported this, quote, they noticed coal pouring
liquid into dried out vials and running the tests with
that reconstituted sample.
Like it's a bar.
Like he's just he's just running it on the psh thing and then he's pouring another drink
in there.
Okay, deluding and already compromised sample could have caused people with the virus
to get false negative results.
He's now arguing that COVID vaccines cause cancer, which is what he was speaking about
at that summit.
He claims that he'd seen a big increase in cancer at his lab, which is strange because
he's not supposed to be the kind of doctor that diagnoses patients, like he's a pathologist
with a lab.
He hasn't produced evidence of his claims about increased cancer, but he has apparently
misdiagnosed at least two people as having cancer, and that's led to a complaint
being raised to the Washington Medical Commission
to quote, investigate whether Cole has intentionally
or subconsciously misread cancer tests
while making false claims about COVID-19 vaccines
of cancer.
Also, one of the people he allegedly misdiagnosed
is suing him after she needlessly got a hysterectomy
because of his misdiagnosis.
Wow.
Sky sucks. Wow. Sky sucks.
Wow.
Who knows what kind of damage this guy is directly caused?
And now he's an expert speaking at this dumb dumb COVID conspiracy summit.
These people are monsters and I don't really give a fuck about this guy.
David Martin with his stupid bow tie, talking about just anti-COVID conspiracy and talking
points.
I cares if he's in front of an EU flag.
It's just leaving behind a fucking swath of destruction.
Everywhere they fucking go, acting as though they're helping people.
Yeah.
And it is just so maddening.
Yeah.
It's maddening because they're always out of reach.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
And I mean, I metaphorical reach, too.
It's like there's no way to get them.
Yeah.
I mean, like this, this accepting government money
to do tests, you don't have the capacity to do.
And doing a bad job on this at the risk of,
I mean, if you're providing false negative tests
for a ton of people, especially, you know,
this lab deals with elderly patients,
people, and assisted living.
Sure.
Who knows how many lives you're putting directly at risk because of your desire to get these
government grants?
It's exactly what they're accusing doctors of doing killing pictures for cof.
It is money.
It is.
Yeah. It really literally is.
Yeah.
And it's even more absurd just because, I mean, ostensibly,
this guy doesn't believe that COVID is that big of a problem
or is a problem.
You can't have him running a lab testing for a virus
that he doesn't believe is real.
Well, maybe we didn't know that then.
But also, it calls to mind also a lot of the folks who,
you know, we're willing to accept, you know,
COVID stimulus money for their companies and stuff.
Get these, these government loans.
Oh, got it.
And then, and then also our, our turning around
about COVID is all real.
Oh, it's not real at all.
But I mean, you're, what are you not going to take
from money?
Yeah, you're not going to take money?
What are you crazy?
Yeah, it's, you know, scams evolved. What are you crazy? Yeah, it's you know
Scams evolved loving money is like the primary thing we do, okay? That's our deal
So Alex gets back to talking about the the JBS thing sure lies more about that love it
But also I think he makes a bit of a accidental confession at the end of the interesting
Play X serves of a powerful
1958 speech by Robert Wells, Robert Schrauer, who's not very society.
1970.
Because it just came out in the CIA, the FBI working
with the ADL, criminally targeted organization,
who was 100% dead on.
Everything they said has come true.
People think Alex Jones was right.
This group absolutely scared to hell out of the globalists because
they were populists, they were pro-American, they were anti-communists, they were not racist
and that was the prototype that the ADL went after and they classified it two weeks ago
that the ADL knew they were innocent, knew they were good and set them up and infiltrated
members in to then go to press conferences and say racist things, they can attribute it to the John
versus.
That's right.
Which we know goes on.
We know some of our we lost our bare minimum, had people inside of the office and they
would run around and say, you know where it went inward and people say, we're going to
fire you so that yeah, they quit and then they were poor.
What a great.
I want to do a great scam.
Well, that's a plan.
Here's our plan, guys.
Okay, we've got this evil organization run
by extremely wealthy people with a not infinite amount
of power.
What we're going to do is we're going to go in,
we're going to get hired.
All right, so everybody, you got to make sure
you have some good references.
Derek, not you.
We're going to get hired. Okay, we're going Derek, not you. We're gonna get hired, okay?
We're gonna go in there, we're gonna shout racist things,
and then whenever they threaten to fire us,
we'll quit, and then we'll claim to other people
that their racist solved it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, Alex is making stuff up about this non-declassified thing.
Yeah.
But, you see, I don't know if you understood what he was saying.
He was saying at info wars, people were plants.
Oh, I didn't hear him say that.
He was doing that at info wars.
That's what he was referring to.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
He was saying that they had plants,
like the Southern Poverty Law Center,
had people at his office who were running
around screaming the N word and then what then when he threatened
to fire them for screaming they quit which is of I don't think you threaten to fire somebody
who you're talking about Alex is fire him right yeah if you're running around throwing
out that N word I think I think Alex I think Alex is just trying to come up with defenses
for accusations and things that people have revealed about the race of sports space that he fosters.
Fosters and cultivates and he accidentally is kind of admitting to that.
Yeah, I would say so.
Um, but look man, people like him, you know, people like him.
When you look at a laptop, it's kind of like a mirror and people like Alex and and and understand
that we are the modern warriors in the information war that are taking these
globalists on and they're losing the fight with people of humanity the truth
coming out that's why I was telling the story last segment about Alex
Jones being a microcosm or a bellweather, a gauge, a sensor, we can know where the public
really stands and having 99 to one positive interactions.
That is 95 to say.
200 to one positive interactions.
25 to 5.
That probably should a thousand hands, 2000 hands, last eight, nine months.
That would keep going, Austin.
Come up and come from me.
One person, and before it was happening every couple days,
but when to the grocery store, it was going to happen.
Two, three years ago, go to the grocery store,
take 20 hands, somebody walks over,
FQ Russian agent, or FQ KKK member.
You just laugh at it because it's such an idiot.
But it's just not really happening anymore.
And the love is more intense.
So I talked about with Steve Bannon being a little time restaurant with my wife and with the musician,
friend of ours, and almost everybody came over that was in the restaurant.
And then when I went out I ran to three different groups of people and all three groups were listeners
Black lady
Conviting a couple of Hispanic couple totally totally believe these are real on the one-of-the-party garage was listeners
That really figures a bunch of leftist publications saying Jones isn't saying people don't like he looks he's making it up people
I mean just think think about that
people don't like he looks he's making it up people like him. I mean just think think about that. They want you to think you're alone. They want you to think
they're winning. They're not winning. Yeah. I've shown claims black, white,
Hispanic, old, young, shower him with praise in restaurants. Well that's it. I
realize how much they hate this. So I'm gonna you know what I could do. I can
wear a hidden camera. I can wear a hidden camera and go into a restaurant
Ooh, that'd be a better undercover investigation. So here's a camera left. Oh my you control first
They're all how you control culture and here's the cool ones. Everybody loves you. I'm gonna flip it back on set with him full Wars love
How's that sound
But but he's already know that
There's a lot of those that work on me. They want to make you ashamed of
Carrying about your family or being a Christian or being a straight clean pito time, but that doesn't work any more as well
They don't have that power over you anymore ladies gentlemen. So now what are they doing?
I can put the whole show on this you are
I just want to hold show on this you are
Yes, this has no power over me and now go just been most of my time
Wining about it and creating ways to keep this conversation going
There is there is there should be a red light or something that's just like the are you listening to yourself light? Like everybody should have something available to themselves where they stop.
They're like, let's play that back for you to listen to.
And then you hear it and you go, you're right.
That was, yeah, I feel bad about that.
Now here's what I would love to happen.
Alex is in the middle of one of these rants
about how much people love him.
And he goes to everywhere the restaurants,
people fly them with love.
So he's sitting there on this laptop in the middle of it.
Then there's a knock housekeeping, housekeeping. Housekeeping comes in. Yeah. And they're like,
oh my god, Alex Jones. Yeah. Love you so much. Have to. And it's Rob do when a wig.
We love that. No, no, no, no, but see, that no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, These are a little bit of a stretch. How about pull the fire alarm?
Alex has done that in the past.
Now here's one idea.
Manager comes, because someone snitched him out
for using the room for commercial purposes.
Ooh, okay.
But then he's like, but you're so great.
You're so great, I'm gonna let it slide.
Rob do with the fake mustache.
It's gotta be, it's gotta be all Rob do.
Playing a straight Mr. Bean character.
There is no, there's no cost to doing this.
And I feel like if Alex, the next phase for Alex
should really be trying to be creative.
Like that would be fucking hilarious.
You've got nothing to lose.
It wouldn't undercut his point that everybody comes up to him.
It would only really make it seem like he actually isn't offended or hurt by people mocking the idea
of people like it. It would be like the piss out of a lot of the
court. 100%. Totally. It 100%. I cannot lie. I don't want first of all. I don't think they could
pull it off. They're not good enough at doing bits. No, not fun. It's terrible. They can't commit to characters.
If they were able to make it feel like slightly organic
and not call out that it's Rob Doe and a wig
over and over again.
Yeah.
I would legitimately find that hilarious.
I think so too.
I really do.
I would be watching it.
I'd be like, this is the best it was.
It would be.
And that's because it would be a 25 year long payoff.
You know, like the that's really that's the joke about it is that it would have taken
its 25 years of setup to get to that perfect punchline.
Well, but the other thing too is that Alex constantly talks about how he likes to engage
in satire like that would be satirical.
Absolutely.
That would be satirizing.
I tell you, I do that. I never even thought of that. Of course That would be satirizing. I tell you this right now. I do.
They never even thought of that.
Of course not.
Never even considered that.
Meanwhile, it's the first thing.
First thing.
I gotta get in the writers room.
I mean, it's absurd.
It's absurd how much better a show we could make.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
Well, that's what happens when you're driven by this
a resentment, a grievement, and hate.
And it's not something where you're like,
what can I do to make a good show?
Yeah.
And it's unfortunate.
It is.
It really is.
So Alex is talking about how people
like call a Marussian agent and all this stuff.
And he only knows one Russian.
I know one of the Russians he knows.
Oh, yeah.
And so they're just moving on from seven years
of staying where all Russian agents would
zero evidence.
And I watched House Armed Services Committee hearings five years ago for the Congressman
goes, give me one example of a Russian dissent, Folagian.
Well, Info Wars now shown to come to mind.
He's Russian dissent.
Really?
Never been to Russia.
Don't speak Russian. No one Russian was an army veteran in a patriot that does like call screen force.
So I do know one Russian, one Russian does work for us, doesn't run anything, but I run
everything.
But the point is I do know a Russian.
So that's that's that's that's that.
No, there's millions of them around the world.
Daria is going to be pissed to learn that she's been demoted to call screener.
And she doesn't run anything.
She doesn't run anything.
She doesn't run whenever she is able to take the fall for something, she seems to have
quite a bit of power.
Oh, oh, yes.
She's, she's deeply involved in all sorts of organization aspects, executive producing
and one of you.
But no, no, she's a call. I mean mean frankly, she's your corporate representative at the very least and the reason that I
I think that's hers because Alex always
Describes her as a veteran. Yeah, and so like that makes sense that it would be her unless there are two Russian veterans who work at
Info Wars one a call screener one Daria which case, why are you hiding the other one?
Right.
What do you have to hide?
Also, I've seen, I've watched the Americans,
everybody's secretly a Russian agent.
You know it, but we all know so many Russian agents.
See what happened was Russia infiltrated the United States
and kicked out all Americans and we're actually all Russians.
Mm-hmm.
And we moved into, do the actually all Russians. Mm-hmm. And we moved into do the exact same thing.
It's like the ADL in the John Birch society.
Okay.
It's just smart move.
All right.
I was lost in thought about a TV show that I've never seen.
And I don't know why.
And I think it was because I was like, I've never seen the Americans.
And then I started thinking about other shows that i haven't seen
i started to think about battle star galactic right right right of course
why wouldn't you think about battle star galactic
and where james almost come on sure
and james almost is fire come on man what do we do it do they get away from the
sirens at the end no
they are the sirens we are the sirens what I forgot no because at the end they show up at Earth
Yeah, but I think that's the point. I think we are I don't I honestly don't know this because I don't know
I don't know if I've seen the show now you're making me feel like maybe I have
I
Seen like one or two episodes and I'm aware that at the end they show up at Earth. I'm pretty sure there's a guy named Balthazir, right?
Mm-hmm. No, I think so. I do know that Edward James almost isn't. Oh, I know. I'll never forget it almost. Yeah. My buddy Swarongin watched all of them.
Out of the way? No. Although that joke was made. Yeah.
He was watching that while we lived together. Mm-hmm. And so I got a little bit by like Osmosis,
but I never watched it.
Anyway, I don't know why I was thinking about that.
I don't know.
So yeah, look, the woke stuff all around.
Woke my environment.
Woke is a problem for people.
Can we clearly define it yet?
No.
Shade, you know. Exactly. See, that's the problem with
a clear definition. I believe that the most accurate one so far is, you know, yeah, no, you know,
if you know, you know, it's the Supreme Court definition of pornography. Right. Right. No, when you see
you know, wokeness, when you see a woken, your bones. Oh, yeah. So all these companies that are going broke. They're going broke. Uh-oh.
And when I see understanding of how this is psychological warfare and people get that,
once you're aware of the psychological warfare, you've gotten 35,000 foot view. It's very,
very hard to control you. In fact, from again, it has the opposite. It passes you off, it motivates you.
opposite it, this is you off, it motivates you, it's for you to stand up. So here's a, here's an example of this. And I describe this as comic Aussies. You see, Anisert Bush loses
now $10 billion and now it's 35% of their market and they predict in six months it will
be 60% of their market. They destroyed the number one beer company in the world.
It's a billion. Ten million dollars in advertising to get to that point and to be a hundred
plus year old company gone. Just gone.
Like that. Wipe down. Because the majority of people don't want to teach petafillian children.
Oh, that's why. Yeah. So it is fair enough to say that Anahezer-Bush in Bev stock is down about $10 a share in the
past month from the mid 60s to the mid 50s.
The right-wing tantrum does seem to be having an effect, but this is a case where perspective
is necessary.
For instance, does Alex know what in Bev stock price was in late October of 2022?
It's around $45 a share. $10 lower than it is now after this draw.
Ah, they've been devastated.
Does he know that in 2016 their stock was up at about $125 a share?
Well, then they then they've been devastated again.
Yeah, yeah, they're whining does seem to be making a small debt.
But nothing like the impact of bad dividend report would have
and has had or the like
like the obviously COVID lockdown
like bars being closed
is a big hit.
A lot of people have commented
on some of the slowed down sales
have to do with Budweiser
in particular being late to the market
on Seltzer's, which are like a large part of
retail
Chalkahol shopping now
So these are these are
Factors that are that are in the mix, but what's going on is just a lull
That honestly is probably going to be seen by investors as a pretty good opportunity to get in at a cut right because you have to remember that
Even Alex doesn't realize how many beer companies are owned by this conglomerate. Yeah. It's all good and well to avoid bud and
bud light because you're mad that they had a one-off promotional thing with a trans person.
But in order to really hit in-bev, you need to avoid becks, corona, medelo, miccolo, stela
or toa, bush, natty light, concobra, lebat, goose island, and tons of other beers that just
appear to be small breweries that are actually owned by Inbeth.
Yeah, you know, it's almost like your Floyd's is cool. They're fine.
Well, yeah, of course.
Yeah, but it's almost like because of the very capitalist thing that they desire so much,
a small corporation can gather up so much power you effectively cannot punish them
through these types of campaign. But you can feel like you are. You can feel like you're a hero.
It would be possible, I think, to consciously stop buying all of their brands, but I think it
would be really hard. And a lot of people are probably buying inbev products without even really
even knowing it. Totally. Inbev will be fine. This stock price is down a little bit,
but it will recover because people love booze.
Alex of all people should understand that
and also consider how much penetration
they have into foreign markets
that aren't swayed by this right-wing culture
where bullshitting nonsense.
You're not gonna do anything.
No.
You are not going to do anything.
They are also heavily involved in a number of European and Asian beer companies.
And a lot of that will contribute to their fine.
Yeah, you know, it is, it is, why is it?
And I think I'm not sure if this was true before Citizens United or not.
But ever since corporations or people, I feel,
became just an accepted part of our life,
it is like, why are you guys mad at Anheuser Bush?
It is not a real group of people.
There's like 20 people who make decisions.
Be mad at 20 people who make decisions.
You can't be mad at Bud Light, but like, doesn't exist.
Yeah, but you can't shoot those people,
and Kid Rock can shoot cans of Bud Light.
Right, but I mean, maybe try talking to those people.
That's not as fun.
It's not a good video to post on social media.
Oh, you know, but it's like, oh, Target is hit by allegations
that they are homophobic, and it's like 20 people. Right. Yeah.
It's the board. Yeah. Do something about them.
Well, I mean, I certainly think that it is a way of diffusing responsibility.
Yeah.
You know, the brand becomes the thing as opposed to the people.
Yeah. Seems pretty useful for a small group of people.
For bad actors
and for people who want good outcomes. Well, good outcomes are being billionaires and such.
No, I mean, people who have legitimate social complaints, as well as people like Alex,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, both in both cases, the people
who are the actual decision makers are often insulated from those criticisms by anger at the bram.
And the consequences for their decisions?
Mm-hmm. Well, go vote, go broke.
Yep. Anyway, Alex talks more about the JBS thing as Welch is to be celebrated on Memorial Day.
And then he starts talking a little bit about yay. Why?
Because he's alone in a hotel room staring at a laptop. That's a fair
point. I also said something that went viral. We're at all. And I also said something that
went viral a few weeks ago. I was just being honest with speculation. When I'm speculating
I say, I don't know, but it feels like this. Nope. And it's come up in the natural front
is is government run our organization. That's no. It It's come out the ADL documents seem out of you. It's no they know it was pretty right wing groups and try to make them racist
And when they couldn't they would try to make a race of their names. Nope. Hey, come on guys. Don't you want to hate the
The ADL releases are from this no criminal banter in my view
The former law center does it too and I
Said It's no like Yeh showed up here, because I told him, I don't want to get
into the bunch of junior bashing.
And I said, I think it would really be good if you reached out and said we should unify
all around, basically ideas of freedom and then the first amendment.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, we actually want to clear that up.
Yeah, we want to actually do that.
That's kind of what you did.
He called for everyone to come together, particularly about loving Hitler.
Yeah.
If anything, it was an exercise and example of the first amendment in action.
It was Yez appearance on Info Wars and there's literally no consequences from it.
It's first amendment, baby.
It was a hoard speech, but it's protected. I know Alex is trying to pretend this was a setup and like a tricked him but based on what
he's claiming they talked about before the show it seems like Alex just didn't realize
what he was getting into and how hopefully out of his depth he was with yay and Nick Fuentes.
I can understand Alex wanting to save face but this is pathetic and I think like if you're describing that as the conversation you had with yay
Or you're like, I don't want to get into a bunch of Jew bashing. I bet yay doesn't think that's what he's doing
Yeah, totally from his perspective
He and Alex were on the same page going into it
I'm not gonna do a bunch of Jew bashing, but I'm gonna talk about how much I love Hitler. Yep
Yep do a bunch of juke-ashing, but I'm gonna talk about how much I love Hitler. Yep. Yep. Yeah, I'm excited.
I understand that it looked really bad and it wasn't embarrassing showing, but you
just got to eat it.
Yeah.
You just got to, you got to take that hit.
Everybody's moved on, yeah.
Yeah, nobody cares.
Nobody cares about, yeah, you're anymore.
It all happened and it was over and we all moved on like we do with everything now.
Yeah, but I mean, it had the potential to be really dangerous.
And I think it still is.
And I think that there's potential for, as we get closer to the 2024 election thing,
more things to flare back up.
But yeah, like, it was not as big of, like, explosion as it appeared it was going to be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And who knows what the cause of that is?
Like what the cause, maybe it seems to me
that maybe it's just infighting,
let do it not being as bad as it could have been.
But it doesn't seem that mylo and Nick and Ali Alexander,
yay, like all those figures are not people
who can coexist.
Right.
And so they, I think they kind of screwed each other over.
Yeah, and none of them have any ability to do stuff.
I mean, yay used to be able to really, really make good,
great music, you know, but then the rest of them have no skills
or abilities or stuff.
They have some skills.
Right, but I mean, in terms of political organizing.
I actually, I would disagree. Actually of political organizing, I actually, I would,
I would disagree. I actually political organizing, not shit talking. There's not much difference
these days. Boy, you are not wrong. I think, I think, I think that people like Milo, Nick,
Ali Alexander, they all have certain skills, but they think they have more skills than they
do. Yes, that's definitely
true. So they, their egos probably don't allow them to just play their role. They all want
to be Jordan instead of being coup coach. Yeah. You know, somebody's got to be Rodman. Yeah,
well, that's a different that's, that's a whole different kettle of it. Well, that's why
yeah. Someone's got to be Steve Kerr. Yeah. Someone's got to be a role player. You know, you got to see not always,
all of them want to be the franchise player.
Can't do it.
No.
No.
And I think that probably led to a lot of the,
like, steam dissipating around this.
Yeah, it does seem like it would be impossible to,
I mean, just for, here's what I think.
I think it would be impossible for Nick Fuentes
to have to sit in a room with Nick Fuentes,
being all Nick at him, you know?
Probably.
Like at him.
Probably.
Aggressively him, you know?
And what is Milo, but some version of that, you know?
And Milo, no, no, no, no, I don't mean it like that.
From a temperament perspective.
I mean, from like the, just like being around and just talking, just like always a temperament perspective. I mean from like the just like being around
and just talking, just like always being around each other.
I disagree.
Just not fun.
You're not fun people.
I'm sure they're all not fun.
Yeah.
I think you could exist in a room with Nick Fuentes
for a little while and it not be totally draining.
I think Milo would get annoying really fast.
Yeah, that's definitely true. Milo's had more time to practice at it though
Yeah, he all but but that also has to do with like their particular skill sets. Mm-hmm. Nick is a weasley
Shithead debater kid who also knows how to change his
Presentation for different audiences right whereas Milo he's bread and butter has always been sensational extravagance.
It's been trolling.
It's been like he was the king of the trolls originally.
Yeah, but see, I don't understand.
That's why I find Nick so much more infuriating.
Is he's a guy, he's a whiny little, weasley lying, put his face on for different audiences,
asshole.
Hate that guy.
I personally, I mean, obviously I hate them all, but I think I would much rather be in
a, if I had to be stuck in a room with one of them, I think, oh, it's Nick.
That's, that's a question I don't want to dive into.
I feel like there are times when Nick shuts up and I don't know if that's true of Milo.
That's probably true.
That is probably true.
I also think Milo is a bit more smug. Yeah. And that really that can bother me. I think that's
why Nick lasted with yay longer. But didn't Milo come back? Oh my god. I don't know. I
haven't kept track of all of their comings and goings. I hate them so much. I do think and
here's the other interesting dynamic. This is just me reading from their public presentations and what have.
I think that of them, Nick would be the one who is most able
to put ego a bit to the side for the sake of achieving
a larger goal.
Sure, sure.
He, I think, could be a role player.
He's still young, though, you know.
True.
He's still got, he's still young.
He's still got something to shoot for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, Milo's on like,
Milo's on his,
Re-invenction fly.
Yeah, he's on his,
his nine lives are up.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Nick is kind of like a fresh face on the scene
or as Milo's like,
come on man.
Yeah, no, if you're,
if you're talking,
if you're talking to Nick,
you can have this conversation of like,
hey buddy,
it's not your time yet. You, you hang back, you're talking to Nick, you can have this conversation of like, hey buddy, it's not
your time yet.
You hang back, you learn, you do what you can, and then you'll have your shot, you know,
that kind of thing.
Milo already had a shot.
That's over.
That's a sad realization, isn't it?
He had his shot.
He had it.
He was working at Breitbart.
It really was.
Anyway, enough of this nonsense.
Yep. Yay. enough of this nonsense.
Yeah, might be a fed.
According to Alex.
In when?
When did he begin being a fed?
If he's a fed, I want to know when did it start?
I think Alex is trying to speculate that he had tax problems and that he got blackmailed
over it.
That's kind of the suggestion that Alex is making.
All right, so Jesus, maybe.
Well, they work for the Feds or not. I might be staying nice to case.
I mean, I can tell you want to come on right when I go live.
It's a one minute before we go live. He shows up wearing a mask.
And I said, okay, we take it off later. Yeah, maybe.
What we gonna talk about it and then the whole thing is I love
that we're the Jews for bad and all stuff.
So I simply said, this feels like a setup.
People think the dinner with Trump was a setup. I'm not even saying that.
Well, they talk about loving Hitler, but then it was Trump.
And Trump didn't know who was coming to the dinner. He thought, he was. He ate West.
So I'm not saying he ate West as a pig. Maybe he's the greatest troll ever. I believe this person, the US. So I'm not saying the US is a fed. Maybe he's the greatest
troll ever. I believe the first number of rights. But the point is when you look at his dialectic,
I'm not saying Nick Pointes. Now, now his supporters ran around and said, they say Nick
is a fed. I said, I don't know this. And I'm not even saying this is a case. I'm saying
he is yay being blackmailed with his tax issues and the rest of it, where
he suddenly comes out and quadruples down and does this.
And I'm simply saying, if there's a long history of the ADL other groups, getting people
to behave like this and act like this and do these other things, then I mean, you go
out to a Nazi rally american not see party rally
i've covered
they're very rare but they had an awesome
and you look at it and it's a bunch of
art students
gated and in july's guys and you can see i mean
i mean it it was like very david not so
uh... and and you know you'll come here i look well
you know i don't know you know you out there. And you look at me, I look well. You know, the other well-shared is angle.
People look like me. I got the well-shared. And these guys look like Larry David. They're
just wearing Nazi outfits. It's no fight. And then out of the ADL admits they're doing this.
Well, I mean, you're coming to gay West. This whole thing. I'm just like, I'm like, is this
the set up? I'm allowed to say that. Sure. Okay. You're allowed to say it.
I think it's uncompelling, unconvincing.
And it's also in service of, you know,
just trying to excuse your shitty interview.
That's kind of sad.
So yay, bankruptcy issues.
Right.
Can't do anything.
Oh no, the government comes in, G-Men,
come in deposition style.
The adjustment bureau shows up through a door with their hat totally 100% and they're like,
listen, we'll take care of this for you. We got you. But you have to go on info
ward. Well, I mean, obviously also Gavin McGinnis' show, Tim Poole's show, and Twitter. But I mean, you know, like, but in this case, you have to wear a mask.
Yeah.
And bring a you-hoo and a net.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like, did they come up with this?
Because he didn't wear the mask on other shows, right?
Did they wear, they were like specifically for Alex?
You wear the mask.
Also, no, he did wear the mask on the other show.
Well, not on Tim Poole's show,
but then I thought he was in.
Oh, okay.
And then also part of the blackmail with the Texas
was that Alex had to keep him on air for three hours.
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alex absolutely cannot, yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, also this whole like the Nazis
are actually gay theater students thing.
I thought that was about the Unite the Right Rally.
Like, that was his story for that.
Now it's American Nazi party rallies in Austin
that Alex has allegedly been to.
All right, whatever, man.
Yeah.
The trope of Jews creating their own oppression
and what have you is a deeply antisemitic idea
that has been trafficked.
And so, I mean, Alex, again, you are allowed to say these things,
but you're kind of showing yourself a little bit.
You shouldn't.
Yeah, you shouldn't.
They seem very dumb.
And anti-Semitic.
Very much so.
So, Alex talks about, hey, Memorial Day, baby.
Sure, he talks about.
He got a memorial.
He talks about some of his family members who have served.
Sure, yes, that is what we should be doing, right?
Except I don't think that this is somebody who's...
Who died in service.
What the... That's not their day.
It's not their day!
No, but he still got to talk about it.
And apparently he had a relative who was involved in Iran Contra.
When my uncle died about seven years ago, it was a Vietnam War hero, an amazing guy, we
dug to his stuff.
And it was like, wow, we had to, it was like, all the wars he got, all the stuff doesn't
stop real.
All these silver stars, you name it.
And one of his, he was also a great stand up guy, he was probably one of his all-in-such a great standup guy is my pilot. I have a favorite, you know, extended family member,
super smart and hated the new world order
so the US government was run by by some pedophiles.
And that's what leads me to this next moment.
He said, there's always going to be a point where you're
working in a system where it gets so bad
you make it decision to keep your soul fortified.
Because when he heard himdied of pneumonia.
It was a great shape.
It was got pneumonia and died.
And I said, what do you mean?
And he said, well, you know, I was doing stuff
in Central America, in South America.
And I ran contra, I didn't give them the sales of,
it was all secret.
As an army officer, he said, it was kids.
He said, the government was smuggling kids out of
orphanages in Guatemala and giving them the really bad people, and he had to get out
of it at that point.
Well, now you see that major league upscaled going on for everybody.
So imagine how big that is, and even in my family, my mother's brother, you know, witnessed that.
You'll never believe what a higher coincidence this is that that's exactly the story that
Larry Nichols tells.
So weird.
So weird how that works.
It's not only like against the odds that this would be a family member of Alex's, but
that one of his sources would have the exact same story
and present things in the exact same way.
If you have to say, you have to choose between your soul, you know, like all that he uncovered
that they were dealing in kids and they had to get out.
And yeah, that's the, wow, what are the odds?
Yeah, it's almost like we're not the only people who memorialized Larry Nichols passing.
Yeah, we have finally got another, an RIP Larry Nichols.
We stole it.
We stole it.
Larry Nichols is Alex's uncle.
Yeah, it's so easy to, wow.
That's, look who cares.
Man's dead man story.
But who cares?
They're all like, they're all liars and con people.
So like, why not?
It's like, it's like the Bundy standoff
where they're all sitting around the fire,
tell like war stories that they were never a part of.
Well, you know, I feel like when I die,
I would not mind if my organs were given to people
to give them a, you know, to be able to continue on
with share a lot.
Sure, sure, absolutely.
In the same way, con man, I'm sure are fine
with their lives being used for further con.
Do you think you bequeath your cons?
You have to sign your back your life.
Yeah, I mean, I was wondering, do you, is there a deed to the con?
Like, yeah, it's property.
Not intellectual, but it's property.
Well, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.
So you actually have one last clip here because Alex, not, not, I have an hot one.
No, I mean, he's in a hotel room. And, not, not I have an hot one.
No, I mean, he's in a hotel room.
And he is for the next few days after this.
No, oh my God.
Same hotel room.
Oh my God.
Still there as far as I can tell.
We're recording this on Thursday and he, I, I, not checked his show today, but you might
still be in that room.
All right.
Two weeks going on since he's been in studio.
Gotta get back into the studio.
Come on, man.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm four, I'm pro work from home.
Yeah, you can handle that.
Not the we work from home, obviously.
I'm anti work from hotel.
That's just a wrong place to do it.
Boy, when we were down in Austin for the trial,
we worked from a hotel.
Exactly, we did a lot of work and I went crazy.
No, that was because you were on Twitter too much.
There's a lot of places to go crazy.
So yeah, Alex talks a little bit here about the,
there's a source that the John Birch Society had.
And I found it interesting that he's able to pull this name
because he's now one for specifics.
And I'll be honest with you, not a satisfying last clip
for an episode.
Doesn't really put a button on anything.
But here we are.
And the John Burst Society had people in the Pentagon that were patriots like Fletcher
Proudi, who ran the major regime change operations to a scum.
They had people like Fletcher Proudi and others giving them all the intel.
Men that were in the briefing rooms, we told this us all plan and these men are in these meetings but
this is horrible and hand in giving it out to the converts and a lot of people
involved in overthrow operations that Alex admires like Steve
Pachanik yeah miss that guy yeah what if he was in the hotel oh my god
that's that's what you do right you gotta have a reveal house keeping you got to have the reveal of it being him the whole
Oh Alex do you not leave a tip Alex come on look at the sheets
So that's not a great name for Alex pull out as the secret source for the John Birch Society
Fletcher Proudy did have a long career in the services, but he's also kind of remembered as a lunatic sure
Proudy has been involved in a number of incorrect conspiracy assertions over the years,
mostly revolving around the JFK assassination.
He was so important to that stuff that it said that he was the inspiration for Donald
Sutherland's character in Alverstone's JFK.
Yeah, that sounds right.
He also had a penchant for targeting people unnecessarily and incorrectly for things that would
bolster his conspiracy
claims, which is pretty similar.
Yeah, that seems right on the par for course.
For instance, he cast suspicion on Louis Whitt, who would become to be known as the umbrella
man, who was an innocent bystander at the JFK Association.
Right.
He also inaccurately accused a man named Alexander Butterfield of being a CIA liaison with the
White House.
That was not true. He was accused of man named Alexander Butterfield of being a CIA liaison with the White House.
That was not true.
He's essentially a shit-talker with little credibility,
also much like Alex.
Yeah.
Also like Alex, he had a tendency to keep bad company.
He was pretty involved with the Church of Scientology
and was called upon by them to be an expert witness
to back up Elrond Hubbard's ridiculous claims
about his military service.
Oh, wow.
So again, this is, this is a person with almost no credibility and shady assumptions, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the history that is made out of bullshit and confidence is, is,
is unparalleled.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like he, he is responsible for like having an affidavit that suggested that Elrond Hubbard's
military service might be sheep dipped.
It might be a situation where there's a lot of stuff
being intentionally withheld,
because he was involved in high level naval intelligence.
Ha ha ha.
Sure he was, but.
Yeah, so sure he was.
So that's the guy who was secretly feeding
all this intel to the JPS.
Yes, man.
Given yourself putting that on paper, an affidavit.
Yep.
Oh, I was unable to tell exactly like if he was actually in
Scientology, or if he was just somebody that was willing to
serve as an expert witness for them on stuff that he
wasn't necessarily an expert on nor knew anything about.
Yeah.
Either way, not good.
It seems like he would be primed for both opportunities.
If like one, if you're Elrond, you're thinking,
oh, this guy, he's on the edge of Scientology already.
I don't need to do much, but watch him fall.
Or you're thinking, this guy will say whatever I pay him to.
Who knows, but like, it's an interesting name
for him for Alex to pull out.
It was so specific.
Watch our priority. It was so specific.
Watch our priority.
It was very specific.
I do know that.
I think he knows a lot more about the John Birch society
than even we think.
Maybe it's hard to believe.
It is, but I really think that it's possible.
But if he does, if he does, then it's a lot more damning
of a picture than, yeah, then maybe even. Well, but it's a lot more damning of a picture than maybe even.
Well, but that's the thing.
I think it's always been my sense that a lot of that John Birch society's stuff is things
that he read as a kid and things that were culturally part of the household.
So a lot of the ideas and the belief system is there.
He has that and it's part of who he is and his cultural and intellectual
tradition.
Sure.
But then the specifics of things like Fletcher Proudy, that kind of throws me off a little
bit.
Here's my theory on it.
And I'm going to throw this out and I'm going to say that this is based on some experience.
I feel as we watch as decline, we are seeing some of those onion layers get pulled
back as he becomes more and more desperate. Wow, he's in a hotel room. Exactly. And I think he
is rely. He's spoken more about JBS. I feel like in the past year or two, and he has in any of our
investigations. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think as we see stuff get fall as he declines as he disintegrates
We see what his core really is and it's fucking JBS man. Yeah, sure there is more talk about JBS in the same way that the
Really grotesque and extreme devil talk. Yeah, became more as things progressed. Yeah
Yeah, I mean who knows that that leads us to a real question of what do we get?
Yeah, that, that, that, that,
What's the core?
Peach pit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That looks as, ooh.
Oh my God.
It's probably bad.
Yeah.
That Grinch's heart's not gonna go three sizes.
I'll tell you that right now.
No, sir.
No, ma'am.
The who's are all dead.
We are dead.
We have ended.
He's out there to steal Christmas.
Christmas is mine.
He's defending a second amendment, breaking into houses, gun grab, and hoos.
Hell yeah.
So we'll be back, Jordan, in another episode.
And now I, I, I will check in and cover his hotel antics.
Oh for sure.
But I do want him to get back to studio.
This vacation's gone on too long.
Too long. He's not in prime mid-season form
when he's in a hotel room sitting by himself.
Yeah.
And it's just kind of a bummer to imagine
that he's sitting there having to drink it noon,
and then he's just gonna go to the pool afterwards.
It's like this sucks.
Yeah.
Get back to work, man.
Yeah, yeah, and it makes him sad.
Yeah.
You can tell that sitting there in front
of the computer doing the show is just a t-shirt
Just kind of like it's not the info war. You know, it's a show
That's that's the thing. It's a show when he's in studio. Right. Yeah, but I mean make a show
If you're gonna do a show you have to make a show you can't just be in your fucking hotel room. Yeah
You know, it's just a zoom interview or something. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a it's off unless you do a bit in which case you got yourself a show. Now it would have been fantastic.
That would have been fantastic. If Rob do comes in another way. Damn it. I got you ice.
All right. Do. So we'll be back. Uh, but until then Jordan. We have a website. Indeed,
we do. It's not as fight.com. Yeah. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's
add to our judges. Go fight. Yeah. We'll be back. But until then, uh, I'm Nio. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark
Still haven't come up with a new bit, but
boop boop
Yeah, oh yeah, and now here comes the sex robots and the enchants us. You're on the earth. Thanks for holding
So Alex some of my first time color in my huge fan. I love your work. I love you
I like some of the first time I've called her in my huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.