Knowledge Fight - #813: May 29, 2023

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan finally have some new Alex to cover.  In this installment, Alex broadcasts from a laptop in a hotel room, where he sings the praises of the John Birch Society, announces the dem...ise of Budweiser, and insists that everyone actually really does like him.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge, Faith. Knowledge, Faith. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Shang-ni are the bad guys. Knowledge, Faith. Dan and Jordan, Knowledge, Faith. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Ah, need money. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. Andy and Pam's, Andy and Pam's, Stop it. Andy and Pam, Andy and Pam's, Andy and Andy. It's time to pray. Andy and Pam's, let's go on the earth. Let's go on the earth. And the end of the day I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:00:52 I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Workable dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Jordan. Dan? I have a quick question for you today, sir. What's up? What's your price about today? My price about right now is actually after I said the altar of Celine, Celine came up to me and I'm petting her as I'm speaking. Let's see if she has anything to say.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Wow. Oh, that was a good saline take. That was a good cut that, clean it up. That goes in the opening. We're rarely able to capture that on Mike. She does not usually like it when I put a mic in front of her face. Now that was perfect.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And now she has walked off gone forever. That is not my bright spot though, though, pretty fun. Pretty solid. So look, here's the deal. You like peanut butter. I have heard of it. You love it. I do love it. You like peanut butter. I have heard of it You love it. I do love you love Reese's love them your wife is allergic She it would kill her yeah, really killer. So that is a difficult position for you to be in it's what it's a Romeo and Juliet Horatio kind of situation. I'm 50 50 on it. You're 50 50 on it as a positive or no
Starting point is 00:02:02 I mean, I like it fine I'm saying that your wife no peanut butter, right? You love it love peanut butter me in the middle somewhere in the middle, but I understand it. I get it The pre-amplum is spectacular I do not know where this is going man. I get peanut butter. No, I do not know where this is going. Hey man, I get peanut butter. No, um, so, uh, a little bit back. Yeah. My buddy, Nikki Gifts, um, we periodically will, uh, you know, text each other pictures of new candies.
Starting point is 00:02:36 That you see it to check out aisle, right? You know, yeah. And he sent me a picture of Reese's. They have a new, uh, creamy variety. And I always thought like, I don't feel like it's not creamy. I felt like it was creamy. I don't know what the difference of this is going to be. And I just let it be.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Mike, I don't know. I'm not interested. Yeah, the day I saw Reese's creamy, decided to grab it so good. So good? So it's better. Really? Yes. What do they call it? Do they call it a Reese's creamy?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah. No, that's the worst name I can think of. It was only after eating one that I realized how grainy, kind of the normal Reese's is. Yeah. That's pretty grainy. Yeah, but you kind of just think like, yeah, it's the texture. Sure. You used to.
Starting point is 00:03:20 That's the Reese's texture. You don't think that you would want other. Well, I would be concerned that it would be more like a caramel soft like that, like that kind of pole. It's just like creamy peanut butter. Goddamn kind of. Well, and it's great. And this led me to a conversation with Nikki Gifts about how this was great,
Starting point is 00:03:37 because he said, it's not that different. Okay. I think it's worlds apart. I'll ever go back. Okay. Until they make you go back. Yeah. Until they make you go back. Yeah. Until Doritos gets wind of your other shit.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And this got me into a conversation with him about a creamy and chunky peanut butter. Okay. Now I don't know if you have a preference. Oh, I very much do. What is it? Extra crunchy. Oh, give me full peanuts in there. See, I want a whole peanut to crunch on.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Just put peanuts on a piece of bread then man Get them what I will just soak some peanuts Good These are my dipping peanuts. Yeah, these are yeah My preference is creamy. Uh-huh, and here's the reason I like peanuts as well I don't mind I don't mind the fact that peanuts. I have a crunch to them right, but it's a butter It is a butter. I don't mind the fact that peanuts have a crunch to them. Right. But it's a butter. It is a butter. I don't want crunchy butter. Like, if you had margarine, do you want chunks in it?
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's a butter. I mean, is there a presser? Alright, let me ask you a question. It's a smooth product. When you make mashed potatoes, Yeah. You leave the skins in or not? Well, I don't think I've ever actually made mashed potatoes myself.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Oh. Because I'm lazy. And growing up, always no skin. No skins when you're growing up. That was how my parents did it. So that's kind of what I'm used to. Well, no wonder you like the smooth peanut butter. What are you talking about? I'm telling you that when you make it with the skins, it's better.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But look, I don't mind. Well, here's the thing. You make it with the skins and also have it be real smooth? You can, but it's got a little bit of texture in there. It should be smooth. They are smooth with a little bit of texture. Oh, man. Look, I like French fries, but I also don't mind a potato wedge.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's got the skin on it. It's true. How about that? Look, that's different though. Because I would say that mashed potatoes are not a butter. You put butter in mashed potatoes. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Alright, fwagra, what is that? Is that a butter? I would never eat fwagra. I mean, I'm not a fool. I don't know. Don't they like it, right? But don't they like shove stuff into groups? They would speed goose to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Is that what that is? I think so. Oh, I thought that was, what's, what's paté? Is it, oh man, I'm out, I'm out of all food conversations forever. Speaking of which, it brings me to another bright spot. What's that? I constantly, like Celine loves wet food.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Sure. And I've always been in a position where she will only eat the stuff that's extra gravy, like a little bit of, you know, chunks of meat or whatever. I ordered a large shipment of wet food from the delivery, the pet place. Wherever, yeah, yeah. I came up with the name.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And I accidentally got the pate. And I was like, she's not gonna eat any of this. I don't want to send it back. Yeah. So I just started giving it to her and she loves it. She loves it. She loves it. She loves pate. She's a cat. And it's smooth. That's the point. Okay. I got it. Anyway, what's your
Starting point is 00:06:31 bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is tomorrow. Today, when you are listening to this, a movie will be released named Spider-Man across the universe. It's the sequel to the... Oh my God. That's where the spider was right. I'm so excited. I can't begin to describe how excited I am. Do we got Nick Cage in that?
Starting point is 00:06:52 I don't know. I don't know. I've tried to keep myself unaware of anything. I watched, so the first movie came out and I was fired on ceremoniously, almost simultaneously. And part of that like weird process that I went through was watching the same time frame. Yeah, wow.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I watched into the spider verse probably a hundred times, like over and over. Like I didn't have anywhere to go during the day and I didn't know what to do with myself. So I just kept watching into the spider verse depressed out of my mind, you know. And so it is a perfect movie, and I could not be more excited
Starting point is 00:07:29 for across the spiderverse. I'm bubbling, I'm going to go as soon as I possibly can tomorrow morning. It's gonna be amazing. I'm excited for you. Oh, I'm so excited. That's one of the movies where everybody who's ever talked about it has talked about how great it is.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I believe them. It is a perfect one. And I have accepted that it is fantastic. Yeah. And yet I have not seen it. No, and I understand, you know us. I've never pushed it on you. But it may, if the opportunity arose,
Starting point is 00:07:56 where someone was like, hey, here it is, watch it. I would say yes in an instant. Oh, man. But going out of my way, taking that second step, it almost never happens with movies. Yeah. Like right now, I brought up Nicholas Cage. True. Uh, I would love to see that Renfield movie, not going to do it until it's put in front of me. That's what I miss about having TV and cable. Yeah. That ability to just click and like, oh, that's on the passive, the passive acceptance of somebody curating
Starting point is 00:08:24 for you. Right. Or what I went to the movie theater where it's just like well It's what's on. I just got off shift. I'm gonna watch this stuff. Right right right because of movies being on TV That's why I saw a national treasure like 30 times right because it's always on and I always want to watch This is Nicholas Cage heavy at the moment. Yeah, there is, there is an element of like, sometimes I would like to have to find something and sometimes the, the, just the, the simple effort of being like, oh, I'm going to choose to go watch this movie is beyond what you can handle and you just rather be like, oh, somebody did something for me, that's what I'm doing today. Yeah, I get you. Yeah, it's almost enough for me to think about like,
Starting point is 00:09:08 I'm gonna just get cable. Yeah, I don't think I will though. Yeah, well, I will say this to you. Into the Spider-Verse is probably one of the top three animated movies ever made in top five, any. It's right up there with Cool World. No, it's right up there with Princess
Starting point is 00:09:25 Mano No.K. That's what we're talking about. What about who framed Roger Rabbit? Do you classify that as an animated movie? No, that's not a that's a hybrid movie. Interesting. Well, I mean, all, all, all Lloyd movies are technically cartoons also. What about Adam's family, technically a cartoon, anything with John Lydon it. Yep. Emperor's new groove, that's gotta be up there. That's great. That's a great one, not up there.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Patrick Warburton, performance of a lifetime. I really did launch a voiceover career that I think is never gonna end. Yeah, solid. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Indeed. And finally Alex is back. Oh no, we're in the present studio. That's not actually true
Starting point is 00:10:11 He's not in studio. Okay, and we'll get into that when we do all right But yeah, he's back on air at least. Uh-huh And so we're gonna be talking about May 29th That's Memorial Day. Sure. Uh. Right. And yeah, it's weird. It's weird. Yeah. That sounds right. He's in a hotel room. Okay, we're already off to a good start. Why is he in a hotel room? He's on a like two week vacation or something. I don't know what's going on here. Oh my God. As of the time of recording, he is still in this hotel room. I don't know what's going on is he is this fear loathing in Las Vegas? Is style are we as you do in blow with fucking Johnny Depp or something what is happening? Definitely drinking
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh, that's yeah, that's for sure. That's fair. That's fair. You do hear a couple times things that are very clearly him drinking Wow, the camera has cut away from him. Yeah, I don't know. It's very mysterious. But based on everything I know about the world he's in right now, I'd be on long vacations too. That may not be an option soon. So good for you Alex.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah, good luck. Spread that money before someone else can take it from you. Oh God. So we'll get down to business on a lot of feelings about this, but before we do, let's say hello, Jordan, to some new wanks. Oh, that's great idea. So first, Burb with Knife, thank you so much,
Starting point is 00:11:33 you are now, policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you, next, Captain Bark Richards. Thank you so much, you are now, policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And Doug's a murderer.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Next, the plural form of Lego is Lego. Thank you so much, you are now, policy wonk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And Doug's a murderer. Uh, next, the plural form of Lego is Lego. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Norm Patis, and I'm afraid my prank on Alex has gotten out of hand. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk. I'm a policy walk.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Thank you very much. Next, uh, congratulations, Emily and Mary on the wife house, house for wives and dog walks. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk. I wives and dog walks. Thank you so much you and I'll policy won I'm a policy won. Thank you very much and we got a technocrat of the mix Jordan So thank you so much to someone someone Tanner sent me a bucket of silly gooses. Thank you so much you and I will technocrat. I'm a policy won I'm gonna tell you Someone someone satamite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark
Starting point is 00:12:24 Get more than tell it you're brilliant someone someone satamite sent me a book in a poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much. See this is kind of fun too now Before I would go through and get a wonk names Mm-hmm fun to now before I would go through and get a wonk names and now how we have it you gather them and send them to me in an email and it's fun to cold read them. Yeah, it's been a while since you had to do that. I appreciate you doing that and then also the added thing of the like what is this?
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, yeah, it's trying to figure it out as I read it. Is this a joke I remember I remember early on whenever you were still trying to do it straight from the patreon site Mm-hmm, and it was it was interesting because you'd be you'd have to like look down at it look and then you it was it was fun It's it's impossible now it's not boxes a disaster terrifying Many apologies if you want to shout out send an email to knowledgefightagmail.com. Jordan will sort you out. I read them. I will forward them. I will take care of it.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Um, so yeah, like I said, Alex is in this, this hotel room and, um, very exciting, uh, to have him back. Yeah. And here we go. Uh, the, the king has returned or something. It's Memorial Day. It's Monday, May 29, 2020, 300. I have a chance. I'll be hosting today.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I have a turn to the airwaves. And I'm here on Memorial Day. It's such an important day. Let me look at what our country's turned into and where we're going and what some of the thought died for for the future and the existence of this republic. But I wanted to talk about someone who fought in the Info War, some kind of was strong. That was Robert Welsh for the John Merch Society who was targeted by the ADL, the CIA,
Starting point is 00:14:17 that was the classified two weeks ago, the National Campaign of Infiltration of L actual campaign of infiltration of lies, of of of lawsuits, the harassment of just criminal activity, a truly authoritarian, authoritarian activity. So Alex is back. He's on this webcam sitting in hotel room. Owens in the studio and does some of the anchor duties like the two of them co-hosts for part of it, but Alex is, he's around for most of the episode, not the third hour.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He legitimately looks insane. Since the camera is the level of quality you find built into a laptop, and the shot is angled upward like it would be from a laptop. Oh my God. Are you serious? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Have some professional sense. It's wild. That's unreal. He's just sitting alone and what appears to be a fairly nice hotel room, ranting about nonsense. Well, we're forced to watch him from what appears to be below him. It's a very unappealing thing.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's a bad look, and it really does not inspire confidence in this operation. That's not good. Honestly, he could get a better quality shot if he just got a little mount for an iPhone. Yeah. It doesn't, it looks worse than, I've seen people doing live streams out in public.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. You know, that's not good. No, that's not good. As to that stuff about the John Birch society, we covered that on our last present day episode. And I want to really focus in on what Alex is claiming. He said that Robert Welsh and the JBS were targeted by the ADL and the CIA. And this was declassified last week. In reality, what happened was that last week Alex skimmed a headline of an article about a historian who was interviewed about a book he'd put out recently.
Starting point is 00:15:50 The book was about the John Birch society, and one chapter had to do with the fact that some of the members of the ADL had infiltrated the JBS on fact-finding missions. Nothing was declassified, and the CIA wasn't in cahoots with these ADL members who went undercover. This is a slippery way that Alex uses language to exaggerate his own oppression and the oppression of his ideological allies and the way he tries to dress it up in the appearance of official dumb. It sounds so much cooler to say the CIA was targeting his buddies and that this was declassified
Starting point is 00:16:21 as opposed to how dorky it sounds to complain about an interview with an author that you didn't even read. He didn't read the book, he didn't read the interview, and you didn't read the article about the interview. Yeah, yeah, you know the thought occurs that like if you because his telling of the story and the one that is real are so different. Yeah. Like even if you would listen to him tell it the first time, then looked it up and we're like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 well that's not the same story. You would be forgiven for thinking, oh, I just mistaken the wrong one. Mm-hmm. Because they're so unrelated. Oh, it's not like, oh, he's taking the wrong bits of information. He's making up something whole cloth.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah, and there's a couple things that are important to like really tease out of this. And the first is he's saying this stuff was declassified. Right. It wasn't. No. This author had found some documents in the Jewish Historical Society's archive. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It wasn't declassified. It was not a declassified to begin with. It was a, it was a bias. Right. And this calls into question. You should keep in mind every time Alex says things are declassified. Sure. This is the kind of thing he's willing to call declassified
Starting point is 00:17:26 because it elevates and serves his purposes to do so. Now second, you gotta recognize what the point of this is. And that is the feature of this is defending the John Birch society sort of. And that is because his argument is that the ADL agents infiltrated and then got all racist in order to make the JBS look racist. Again, the ADL took over the JBS in order to make them an anti-semitic organization. Right. Yes. And somehow planted a reveal of Piala ver as one of the founding members. And yeah, all there is all that very believable. Is a brilliant scheme.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So but that is only the surface of what the purpose this serves is and the reason that Alex is bringing it back up and seems to be very interested in making this a a focus of his rhetoric and in coverage. And that is that it also now applies to every other racist group that he's super cool with. Yeah. Yeah. All of these groups that are carrying out exercises and are definitely threats to commit
Starting point is 00:18:35 domestic violence and terrorism. Sure. People like the Patriot Front are now just proven. It's been declassified that the ADL just infiltrated the Patriot Front and did all this Nazi stuff in order to create the appearance that they're actually a Nazi group. Really, they just want, you know, people to have nice families. Right. Now, I understand the point here. Do you? I think what I'm struggling with is this. Although it does at the same time seem inevitable. It appears that far-right Nazi organizations now claim that the Jews run everything so much to the point.
Starting point is 00:19:11 They include themselves. Yes. Well, I don't think that the Nazi organizations themselves would say that, but people providing cover for them may do that. Right. And I think it would be an interesting question to ask if these Nazi organizations would reset that or if they appreciate the cover that People like Alex would provide them by creating these narratives. I feel like I would I would I feel like here's the thing Sure, you can have your your the cause is greater for Nazidom,
Starting point is 00:19:46 you know, like we'll accept the abuse in order to then become successful. But I feel like you go to Nazidom because you can't accept the abuse in the first place. So you're more likely to be resentful. I feel like the sort of opponent I would, like more like to be up against would be the person who resented Alex for it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Because that person feels like more ideological than opportunistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've got something. I don't like them. No, no, I don't want to say they've got something. I don't want to say it either. I don't know why I felt the need to. So Alex is going to play some clips of Robert Welch.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Okay, all right. I'm going to play some clips of Robert Welch. Okay. All right. I'm going to air at service for an hour long space you gave it out of the A.I. here today, but here's a few minutes out. A part of that plan, of course, is to induce the graduate of American sovereignty, piece by piece and step by step, to various international organizations, of which the United Nations is the outstanding, but far from the only example. Man.
Starting point is 00:20:50 So this is Alex's Memorial Day show, and he seems to be starting out suggesting that Robert Welsh is someone to celebrate on that holiday. This should be deeply offensive to the veterans and enlisted persons in Alex's audience since Memorial Day is about honoring soldiers who died in service. Robert Welsh never served the country,
Starting point is 00:21:07 and he died peacefully at age 85. Nothing about his life in any way qualifies him to be a figure to take time out for and celebrate on Memorial Day. And even if it's true that Alex just wants to talk about the Info War Memorial Day, you know, maybe if that's the case, I guess that would be a data honor
Starting point is 00:21:24 those people who've died in the pursuit of stupid Anti-communist conspiracy theories, but even that Robert Welsh wouldn't qualify for. No, no. I'm not sure who would qualify, but I'm guessing it's a massive creeps and probably people who have done mass shootings. I know there are some people who would qualify and I don't think I would enjoy any one of them. No. No. No, Alex might include like
Starting point is 00:21:46 Timothy McVeigh. It does feel like Timothy McVeigh is at the top of that list, right? Yeah. Am I crazy for thinking? My first thought was like, oh, well, he's thinking of Timothy McVeigh. But then again, Alex thinks that Timothy McVeigh was sheep dipped and he was, you know, he was a sat up. So he can't be eligible for the info. See, this is very good. Oh my god. It's once you, uh, uh, what tangled webs we have. So you might think that Alex listened to this Robert Welch speech and thought it was so powerful. So he decided, I'm going to select a clip here, but you'd be wrong. There's a watermark on it for an account called at I'm meme zero, who has the handle I meme. Therefore I am. It's a super cool meme guy, clearly.
Starting point is 00:22:25 This account posted the small excerpt of Welch's speech on Twitter on May 26th then retweeted it a couple days later, so Alex clearly saw it and decided to run with it as a news item because he's dumb and lazy. Also not for nothing, this account also tweeted out a video with a caption, quote, "'Sense veterans day is almost over. I just want you to always remember this message.'" Then there's like an American flag emoji. Veterans day is in November. Anyway, this account is just a constant barrage of right-wing culture war type whining,
Starting point is 00:22:57 about things like how corporations are too woke as they celebrate pride, and they also seem to be really mad about Black Lives Matter. Yeah. Also a small point, this speech wasn't from 1958. It's a recording from 1974, but the title on the YouTube video that I meme zero is taking this from, the title is, quote, Robert Welch speech, parentheses greatest speech in America in 1958.
Starting point is 00:23:20 These people haven't even watched the source material the pull out in this from or know anything about the subject. The dead giveaways should be one, the actual speech is titled 15 years ago, referring to the founding of the John Birch society being 15 years in the past in 1958. And this is also a speech that Welch originally gave in 1973, so that's why it's 15 years ago. Okay. So if I understand correctly, the speech we are listening to, Robert Welch gave in 1973. Initially, but the recording is from 74.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Right. And so the speech is in regards to events that happened in 1958. Yes, and it's mostly a rehashing of the material that ended up becoming the blue book of the John Birch society, which was mostly taken from the lecture that he gave at that first meeting when he was recruiting people like reveal O.P. Oliver, and what have you. So that's what this is. And then the second claiming that it's from 1958. The memes are claiming. The memes are claiming. Yes. And then Alex is just repeating that because he doesn't know anything about this. Right. The second dead giveaway should be that the MC for this event is John McManus who's credited as the director of public relations McManus would go on to be the president of the John Birch society
Starting point is 00:24:33 But he didn't even join until 1966 and wasn't given the title of the head PR guy until 1973 I may be telling you something you already know, but meme accounts rarely provide accurate useful information. Alex isn't a scholar about his own cultural lineage or his ideological successors. He doesn't know anything about this Robert Welch speech outside of the fact that he posted a Dumbass meme Twitter account. That Welch speech is actually about an hour and 45 minutes long, not an hour long, and it's more or less just a verbal version
Starting point is 00:25:06 of the blue book. Welch speaks for a very long time and is very boring, but he is introduced to stage by another one of the founding members of the John Birch Society, one of the other people there who was there at that first meeting, one of the original 12. If you include Welch himself, no, Fred Koch was another of the founding members. But this is William J. Grady, who was the owner of Grady Foundry's Incorporated, one of the largest steel and iron producers in the country at the time.
Starting point is 00:25:35 In addition to that, as is put in his obituary from the New York Times, quote, from 1956 to 1961, he was a top official at J.I. Case Company, a manufacturer of farm equipment. In both of these capacities, Grady had run-ins with organized labor and he hated unions. What? In 1960, auto workers, United Auto Workers declared a strike over breaches of collective bargaining and some messiness with paid vacation days at J.I. Case. Grady threatened to leave the city if workers didn't get back to work, but that move wasn't successful and the strike ended up being resolved after six months. J.I.K.S has a long history of ending up in strikes. They had a van record setting 440-day strike that ended in 1947. Before that, they had a 108-day strike in 1937. Reading over how that was covered
Starting point is 00:26:28 in the New York Times is really interesting and definitely gives you quite a sense that maybe the Times wasn't so behind organized labor. The first of the 1800 production workers thrown into idleness when the picketing forced the closing of the farm machinery manufacturing plants last October, we'll return to work tomorrow. You're forced to die. Wow. Wow, guys. You're showing a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You're showing just a little. That's an article, by the way, not an editorial in the terms. I don't want to know what the Wall Street Journal's board wanted to say about that one. J.I.K. has a long history with strikers and it was well known that their leadership was very hostile toward unions and collective bargaining as a whole. And Grady Foundry's was no different. William Grady hated the idea of the needs and rights of workers getting in the way of his
Starting point is 00:27:16 ability to make money, so it should be no surprise that in 1952 he became the president of the National Association of Manufacturers, a lobbying group that was very focused on fighting against the power of unions and workers' rights. The National Association of Manufacturers was the recruiting pool that Robert Welsh picked the first members of the John Birch Society from, as Welsh himself was on their board. At least half of the founding members were in high-level positions with the National Association of Manufacturers, and there was a targeted effort on Welch's part to find new members for the JBS from within the National Association of Manufacturers. I go down this road a little bit because it's important to understand that what motivated
Starting point is 00:27:55 a lot of the anti-communist fervor in the people who inspired much of Alex's worldview is that they hated paying workers fair wages, and they didn't want dumb things like safety precautions to cut into their profits. is that they hated paying workers fair wages, and they didn't want dumb things like safety precautions to cut into their profits. There's obviously a bit more to the birchers than what goes into their worldview, but this is not an insignificant piece of it. Yeah, I mean, I would argue that most of the trappings
Starting point is 00:28:16 around it are trappings, because the fundamental thing is, I wanna make as much money as I possibly can. And it's very difficult when you look at the actual, like the, the, the details of who is involved and how they organized and, and all this stuff to, it's tough to get away from that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:28:36 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the like this part where Welch... Oh, whoa, whoa, you have a clip from it that you can play. How can you do that? What did you find it somewhere? Did somebody have it that wasn't on a meme account, Dan? Yeah. Now if the danger from the communist conspiracy were all we had to worry about, it would be enough. But in my opinion, the first great basic weakness of the United States and hence its susceptibility to the disease of collectivism is simply the age of the Western European civilization.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Some of you will already have recognized in fact that I am drawing a corollary to the conclusions usually connected with the name of Osville Spangler. Spangler's theory is absolutely fatal to the acceptance of socialism or any form of collectivism as a forward step or as a form of progress in man's sociological arrangements. For in Spangler's view, collectivism is a disease of society, concomitant with decay and remarkably similar to cancer in the individual. Oswald Spangler died in 1935 and he is what you might call a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah, that is to say that he supported Hitler and the National socialists, but felt that their focus on pure German people wouldn't be appealing enough to other potential allies. It's like a woke Nazi, you might say. He wasn't necessarily an anti-Semite, but he was a scholarly voice who helped champion the ideas that brought Hitler and the Nazis into power.
Starting point is 00:30:21 He was also really fucked up, dude. A 1939 article about him in the National Journal of Literature and Discussion said, quote, Spengler has sailed modern medicine for interfering with natural selection and for accelerating racial decay. A strong race he defined as one with an inexhaustible birth rate, compensating for severe selection process, which is provided by the resistances to living, represented by misfortune, sickness and war. The test of race for him was the speed of reproduction. So yeah, he hated medicine because he wanted everybody just to like, yeah, you got sick because you're weak. Right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You Genesis are usually not cool guys. Did you ever notice that?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, he seems to suck. Spangler's most famous work is undoubtedly the decline of the West, which is a bit of what, you know, Welch is pulling from here. It's essentially a call for the rise of new Caesar-like dictators. That's the way that you get rid of this cancer of collectivism. Yeah, I mean, he might as well have been writing Leviathan all over again. That book is also where the expression, blood and soil comes from, so that's far. of collectivism. He might as well have been writing Leviathan all over again. That book is also where the expression, blood and soil comes from, so that's far. Great! I don't know if I'm meme zero wants to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I mean, I know they like it, but I don't think they want to own it. Probably not. So, a lot of this episode, I gotta say, is Alex talking about how much people like him, which is sad as he's just on a laptop. He's hiding in a motel room! Let me just kind of sit back and say something here that's really important before I had all the big news and it's huge. A couple weeks ago I was on TV on the program of Steve-Man and he asked me,
Starting point is 00:32:06 are we winning? And I said, well, all I can use is a gauge of what I see out in the public. I'm a well-known person. The average person is not well known, so they don't really get to have that experience. But the feedback is. It's true.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I've ever talked about this a hundred times. Listen, it's don't need me to repeat it, but basically I talked about the fact that I've got 95% love over the years, but still You know, I would get five percent hate and when you're walking down the street, that's that's still quite a bit so for every Military at 90 people 95 people I shook their hands. I would run into four or five said I took her hands, I would run into four or five, said, hear Russian, Asian, I hope you die or something like that. Yeah, you understand five percent.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Coffee on me, tea on me, slapping the back of the head. A lot of it has been called on video. People know what happens to prominent populists and America first, as a conservative. And then I talked about how it's been like eight, nine months since that's happened one time. By the way, it did happen finally last week. The guy said, how dare you show your face
Starting point is 00:33:06 of public, that would be a sham, you yourself. I started laughing at him. He was a lot of, well, maddening on the right. So that she killed 500,000 kids with sanctions would do it again on 60 minutes. Is that good? Ha ha ha. Good, that's killing the kids, no.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Great conversation. It's a good question. But all I get is love now. And I noticed they had a bunch of publications. We'll say, look how crazy Jones is. No one loves him. Everybody hates him. That's like Tokyo Rose.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Broadcasting the American sailors and Marines. When we were right off the coast of Japan and already bombed them in the Stone Age. We used to before we dropped comic bombs on Hiroshima and Nakasaki, saying the Americans are defeated, America's on fire, no one cares about you, it's all over, you've lost the war. Yeah, so we've documented over the years, Alex constantly saying that, oh, now everyone loves me. It used to be that everyone was me and to be, but now they're also nice to me. It's very, you know, over different periods of time. He just constantly tells the story in order to provide morale for the troops.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's where in his audience. A little bit in the, like, Tokyo Rose. You know, like, I guess there was like, I don't know, maybe it was a media matters article or something, but yeah, someone was someone posted a video of that that went around and people were making fun of it And it's like well, he says this all the time. Yeah, but people don't realize that he says this all the time Right, and so seeing it with fresh eyes was kind of funny I guess for people I suppose and so now Alex is using this as a Chance for him to complain about how people actually do love him. Oh my god people do do do
Starting point is 00:34:44 Everybody needs to know the cycle how it works, right? Like it is it we learned about the water cycle when I was in elementary school And I think that's when we should have learned about the bullshit cycle to where it's like oh this guy says bullshit and people are all like Look at how stupid that bullshit is and then that gets more attention to that guys like my bullshit's not stupid and then people are like ah, there's so much bullshit That's it and it's it's a really fun game because Alex is talking about stuff that didn't happen Yeah, and then these people are saying yeah, haha this didn't happen and he's saying it did happen. Yeah Yes, yes, that is the level of discourse that we have risen to it's pretty fun No people do like me. Thank you very much It's pretty fun because he ends up just kind of obsessing about this
Starting point is 00:35:28 Okay, so what I'm gonna do just for the last there are how much the eighth is all we hit is I'm gonna start taking film crews out In to downtown Austin and the University of Texas the most liberal places and I'm gonna I mean all I gotta do the most liberal place. And I'm going to, I mean, all I got to do at the hotel I'm at is just walk us to turn a lobby for two minutes and more than half the people that come through to my room are listeners. I can't buy myself a drink. I can't buy myself dinner. Um, I'm going to get you to my family. Can't leave this hotel. That's not about all of shows. How great I am. It is an indicator of how awake people have gotten in other pistol systems. And so the last one she'd have filled alone in on the popular populism is in America first
Starting point is 00:36:15 is. So just for them, and I thought about how important this is, I'm going to go out and I'm going to do live feeds. By just getting edited in, people will like me. Because it would be very entertaining to haters, even better to illustrate. I'm sure we'll get some of those. You have a big crowd in a form. There'll be some. But once that happens, I'll do an hour live feeds, stay on 6th Street.
Starting point is 00:36:44 There'll be four or or a lot of feeds. Stay on six three. There'll be four or five people that hate me. There'll be a couple hundred that love me. And you watch the mainstream media will cut out the haters and put that up. That's okay. That's why they're dead. That's why they're politically
Starting point is 00:36:58 obviously is everybody knows they close up again. So we'll put out the raw feed and live stream and then we'll watch the media go and just see if everybody hates me. You'll see the raw seed which 99% love. And so that's what I'm getting at here is the love is way more intense than it's ever been. I, uh, miss the same story I'll remember him if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if sloshing there and um, seriously, it's like, uh, at that point, someone cut away from his, uh, oh yeah, laptop feed. Right there. Yeah, and there's just some B roll of Alex high-fiving people at, uh, Trump rally five years ago. Huh. Oh boy. Uh, strange. I think whenever a narcissist is trapped in a hotel room still trying to lie about themselves, it's pretty funny. It is. It's pretty funny, especially because he's sitting here and he's saying, all right, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna illustrate how much people love me by going down to six street. Yeah, I'm gonna keep. I'm just do the raw feed. I'm gonna do the raw feed. Now the media will only cut out the show you the bad stuff. That's what they'll do.
Starting point is 00:38:26 He's making up stories about a fake thing he hasn't done and isn't going to do. Yep. And what the media is gonna do about it. Uh-huh. This is ridiculous. Yeah. He's doing that and he's just giving himself a very unconvincing no. People, tons of people love me.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yeah. People love me. And then some long pauses. But it's good. People love me and then some long pauses But it's good people of me you do start to realize the difference between Recording in a studio and talking into a laptop and how much a laptop is similar to a mirror You just look right into yourself and you feel bad people of me. Oh, no So Rogan sent Alex a video That's about all you need to know. You know things are viral. One two separate big podcasters in the in the last 12 hours have sent me the same video. And I was intending to air this video today and I'm going to air it because it's dead on and I'm going to air it is dead on and I'm going to air it in its entirety.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So I've been spent to last night and then literally five minutes ago. The number one spot yesterday in the world said holy bleep this video is insane. Family shot. I said yes actually was just planning to air that today. And what is the video? Joseph and me, the Kim.com tweet. This is the most important video you will watch this year. Millions were killed with COVID-19 for profit.
Starting point is 00:39:55 COVID-19 was an act of biological war for subsistence. On the human race, it was a financial heist. Nature was hijacked. Science was hijacked. This is from the recent international COVID summit at the EU, Muslim European Parliament. So far, 786 million COVID infections have been recorded. And the breakdown here is absolutely critical.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And we're going to be getting to that coming up here on a special Memorial Day broadcast. You're not just going to remember the troops that were killed by the administration. We should now know the American people, people of the world are the victims of a biological warfare attack. Really stretching the Memorial Day theme here. Thanks. So yeah, one of the things that's fun about this episode is that Alex introduces a lot of these topics and talks shit about them. And then whenever he leaves, Owen plays these things and he's kind of left with the heavy lifting. So what are you
Starting point is 00:40:55 talking about here that Kim.com tweeted about the Joe sent him was there's a clip about a guy ranting about how COVID's a bio weapon. He's sitting in front of the EU flag apparently at a meeting of the EU parliament. Oh, forgot sex. This guy is a COVID conspiracy hot shot pun intended named Dr. David Martin, and he's trying to bring back the bow tie look, which isn't going great. Not gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:41:17 He spends the first six minutes of the clip talking about how we've known about coronavirus is for decades, which I found uninteresting, but he was presenting as if it's mind blowing information. Anyway, this was from an event called the International COVID Summit 3, which has the air of a real serious event, but it's actually just a propaganda performance. Did Tim Gunn direct that or Jim Jim Gunn direct that one too? No, no, no, no, no, okay. Robert Malone, I believe. Oh, boo. It was a hot lineup of COVID weirdos. Like I mentioned, Robert Malone,
Starting point is 00:41:46 this David Martin, chair, Cory, and a bunch of international folks who we haven't necessarily met in our coverage but are very similar to the folks we have. The International COVID Summit was apparently hosted by certain members of the European Parliament, but they're referred to as, quote, non-attached members of the Parliament,
Starting point is 00:42:03 which means that their individuals in the Parliament who are not part of any party that has any real sway, right? They're kind of rogue agents within an ineffectual, yeah, yeah, we're kind of assholes, you've suddenly got in there and there we are. They're people who are part of parties with one or two members in the parliament. Therefore, they don't have any actual voting power. As the name might suggest, this was the third such summit that this collection of COVID conspiracists have held, and it's not fair to say that it was in front of the full parliament. I don't think it was like a couple of powerless members of the parliament hosted it,
Starting point is 00:42:35 but the actual you I'm not sure if it was a full assembly for this masterpertory ass event. I would I mean, I would say that a lot of the speeches that you might see on C-SPAN whenever they show the Senator speaking directly and they don't show the crowd because the crowd is three other senators. Yeah, and everybody else is gone. And they're passing the Fed. Totally. Yeah, that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Wayne. Yeah, so I looked over the line up. There's a veteran area in there from the Netherlands are doing the vaccines or killing people. All right, they had a self-help coach from Canada complaining about the media. And they had a doctor named Ryan Cole
Starting point is 00:43:08 who's about to lose his license. Cole is an interesting case because he was very happy to profit from COVID early on as he ran a little lab in Garden City, Idaho, which he presented to Medicaid as quote, using fully automated high volume systems that he could use to run tests. I like that.
Starting point is 00:43:24 The problem is that he wasn't doing that. That's a trouble. And they couldn't handle the load they claimed they could. Cole claimed that they could handle all this testing. And he accepted over $500,000 in government funds, which allegedly did not go to the ends of COVID testing. Oh, that's a surprise. A former molecular diagnostic supervisor there
Starting point is 00:43:42 told the Idaho Capitol Sun, quote, it was volume over safety and accuracy. Cole diagnostics was a small lab at the beginning of 2020 and took on more than what Dr. Cole promised and said that it could do that summer. All in all, Cole was given over more than a million dollars in government funds, specifically for COVID related activity. He was more than happy to use the pandemic to get a ton of free money early on.
Starting point is 00:44:05 But now the grifts kind of moved on. And now we have just got to be like, yeah, a woman named Andrea Wynn told the paper that the lab took shortcuts when doing COVID testing. Quote, given Dr. Cole's public statements downplaying the severity of the virus, it makes sense that he was permissive of a lowered standard of testing. He either did not believe or refuse to acknowledge that bad results were of potentially high consequence to his patients and the public. She went on to say, quote, we were told to run specimens where we knew the integrity had been compromised, certainly. The paper spoke to two other former employees and reported this, quote, they noticed coal pouring
Starting point is 00:44:43 liquid into dried out vials and running the tests with that reconstituted sample. Like it's a bar. Like he's just he's just running it on the psh thing and then he's pouring another drink in there. Okay, deluding and already compromised sample could have caused people with the virus to get false negative results. He's now arguing that COVID vaccines cause cancer, which is what he was speaking about
Starting point is 00:45:05 at that summit. He claims that he'd seen a big increase in cancer at his lab, which is strange because he's not supposed to be the kind of doctor that diagnoses patients, like he's a pathologist with a lab. He hasn't produced evidence of his claims about increased cancer, but he has apparently misdiagnosed at least two people as having cancer, and that's led to a complaint being raised to the Washington Medical Commission to quote, investigate whether Cole has intentionally
Starting point is 00:45:30 or subconsciously misread cancer tests while making false claims about COVID-19 vaccines of cancer. Also, one of the people he allegedly misdiagnosed is suing him after she needlessly got a hysterectomy because of his misdiagnosis. Wow. Sky sucks. Wow. Sky sucks.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Wow. Who knows what kind of damage this guy is directly caused? And now he's an expert speaking at this dumb dumb COVID conspiracy summit. These people are monsters and I don't really give a fuck about this guy. David Martin with his stupid bow tie, talking about just anti-COVID conspiracy and talking points. I cares if he's in front of an EU flag. It's just leaving behind a fucking swath of destruction.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Everywhere they fucking go, acting as though they're helping people. Yeah. And it is just so maddening. Yeah. It's maddening because they're always out of reach. Yeah. It doesn't matter. And I mean, I metaphorical reach, too.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It's like there's no way to get them. Yeah. I mean, like this, this accepting government money to do tests, you don't have the capacity to do. And doing a bad job on this at the risk of, I mean, if you're providing false negative tests for a ton of people, especially, you know, this lab deals with elderly patients,
Starting point is 00:46:47 people, and assisted living. Sure. Who knows how many lives you're putting directly at risk because of your desire to get these government grants? It's exactly what they're accusing doctors of doing killing pictures for cof. It is money. It is. Yeah. It really literally is.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah. And it's even more absurd just because, I mean, ostensibly, this guy doesn't believe that COVID is that big of a problem or is a problem. You can't have him running a lab testing for a virus that he doesn't believe is real. Well, maybe we didn't know that then. But also, it calls to mind also a lot of the folks who,
Starting point is 00:47:26 you know, we're willing to accept, you know, COVID stimulus money for their companies and stuff. Get these, these government loans. Oh, got it. And then, and then also our, our turning around about COVID is all real. Oh, it's not real at all. But I mean, you're, what are you not going to take
Starting point is 00:47:41 from money? Yeah, you're not going to take money? What are you crazy? Yeah, it's, you know, scams evolved. What are you crazy? Yeah, it's you know Scams evolved loving money is like the primary thing we do, okay? That's our deal So Alex gets back to talking about the the JBS thing sure lies more about that love it But also I think he makes a bit of a accidental confession at the end of the interesting Play X serves of a powerful
Starting point is 00:48:06 1958 speech by Robert Wells, Robert Schrauer, who's not very society. 1970. Because it just came out in the CIA, the FBI working with the ADL, criminally targeted organization, who was 100% dead on. Everything they said has come true. People think Alex Jones was right. This group absolutely scared to hell out of the globalists because
Starting point is 00:48:26 they were populists, they were pro-American, they were anti-communists, they were not racist and that was the prototype that the ADL went after and they classified it two weeks ago that the ADL knew they were innocent, knew they were good and set them up and infiltrated members in to then go to press conferences and say racist things, they can attribute it to the John versus. That's right. Which we know goes on. We know some of our we lost our bare minimum, had people inside of the office and they
Starting point is 00:48:55 would run around and say, you know where it went inward and people say, we're going to fire you so that yeah, they quit and then they were poor. What a great. I want to do a great scam. Well, that's a plan. Here's our plan, guys. Okay, we've got this evil organization run by extremely wealthy people with a not infinite amount
Starting point is 00:49:15 of power. What we're going to do is we're going to go in, we're going to get hired. All right, so everybody, you got to make sure you have some good references. Derek, not you. We're going to get hired. Okay, we're going Derek, not you. We're gonna get hired, okay? We're gonna go in there, we're gonna shout racist things,
Starting point is 00:49:28 and then whenever they threaten to fire us, we'll quit, and then we'll claim to other people that their racist solved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Alex is making stuff up about this non-declassified thing. Yeah. But, you see, I don't know if you understood what he was saying. He was saying at info wars, people were plants.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Oh, I didn't hear him say that. He was doing that at info wars. That's what he was referring to. Oh my God. Yeah. He was saying that they had plants, like the Southern Poverty Law Center, had people at his office who were running
Starting point is 00:50:01 around screaming the N word and then what then when he threatened to fire them for screaming they quit which is of I don't think you threaten to fire somebody who you're talking about Alex is fire him right yeah if you're running around throwing out that N word I think I think Alex I think Alex is just trying to come up with defenses for accusations and things that people have revealed about the race of sports space that he fosters. Fosters and cultivates and he accidentally is kind of admitting to that. Yeah, I would say so. Um, but look man, people like him, you know, people like him.
Starting point is 00:50:39 When you look at a laptop, it's kind of like a mirror and people like Alex and and and understand that we are the modern warriors in the information war that are taking these globalists on and they're losing the fight with people of humanity the truth coming out that's why I was telling the story last segment about Alex Jones being a microcosm or a bellweather, a gauge, a sensor, we can know where the public really stands and having 99 to one positive interactions. That is 95 to say. 200 to one positive interactions.
Starting point is 00:51:15 25 to 5. That probably should a thousand hands, 2000 hands, last eight, nine months. That would keep going, Austin. Come up and come from me. One person, and before it was happening every couple days, but when to the grocery store, it was going to happen. Two, three years ago, go to the grocery store, take 20 hands, somebody walks over,
Starting point is 00:51:35 FQ Russian agent, or FQ KKK member. You just laugh at it because it's such an idiot. But it's just not really happening anymore. And the love is more intense. So I talked about with Steve Bannon being a little time restaurant with my wife and with the musician, friend of ours, and almost everybody came over that was in the restaurant. And then when I went out I ran to three different groups of people and all three groups were listeners Black lady
Starting point is 00:52:09 Conviting a couple of Hispanic couple totally totally believe these are real on the one-of-the-party garage was listeners That really figures a bunch of leftist publications saying Jones isn't saying people don't like he looks he's making it up people I mean just think think about that people don't like he looks he's making it up people like him. I mean just think think about that. They want you to think you're alone. They want you to think they're winning. They're not winning. Yeah. I've shown claims black, white, Hispanic, old, young, shower him with praise in restaurants. Well that's it. I realize how much they hate this. So I'm gonna you know what I could do. I can wear a hidden camera. I can wear a hidden camera and go into a restaurant
Starting point is 00:52:47 Ooh, that'd be a better undercover investigation. So here's a camera left. Oh my you control first They're all how you control culture and here's the cool ones. Everybody loves you. I'm gonna flip it back on set with him full Wars love How's that sound But but he's already know that There's a lot of those that work on me. They want to make you ashamed of Carrying about your family or being a Christian or being a straight clean pito time, but that doesn't work any more as well They don't have that power over you anymore ladies gentlemen. So now what are they doing? I can put the whole show on this you are
Starting point is 00:53:22 I just want to hold show on this you are Yes, this has no power over me and now go just been most of my time Wining about it and creating ways to keep this conversation going There is there is there should be a red light or something that's just like the are you listening to yourself light? Like everybody should have something available to themselves where they stop. They're like, let's play that back for you to listen to. And then you hear it and you go, you're right. That was, yeah, I feel bad about that. Now here's what I would love to happen.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Alex is in the middle of one of these rants about how much people love him. And he goes to everywhere the restaurants, people fly them with love. So he's sitting there on this laptop in the middle of it. Then there's a knock housekeeping, housekeeping. Housekeeping comes in. Yeah. And they're like, oh my god, Alex Jones. Yeah. Love you so much. Have to. And it's Rob do when a wig. We love that. No, no, no, no, but see, that no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, These are a little bit of a stretch. How about pull the fire alarm?
Starting point is 00:54:45 Alex has done that in the past. Now here's one idea. Manager comes, because someone snitched him out for using the room for commercial purposes. Ooh, okay. But then he's like, but you're so great. You're so great, I'm gonna let it slide. Rob do with the fake mustache.
Starting point is 00:54:59 It's gotta be, it's gotta be all Rob do. Playing a straight Mr. Bean character. There is no, there's no cost to doing this. And I feel like if Alex, the next phase for Alex should really be trying to be creative. Like that would be fucking hilarious. You've got nothing to lose. It wouldn't undercut his point that everybody comes up to him.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It would only really make it seem like he actually isn't offended or hurt by people mocking the idea of people like it. It would be like the piss out of a lot of the court. 100%. Totally. It 100%. I cannot lie. I don't want first of all. I don't think they could pull it off. They're not good enough at doing bits. No, not fun. It's terrible. They can't commit to characters. If they were able to make it feel like slightly organic and not call out that it's Rob Doe and a wig over and over again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I would legitimately find that hilarious. I think so too. I really do. I would be watching it. I'd be like, this is the best it was. It would be. And that's because it would be a 25 year long payoff. You know, like the that's really that's the joke about it is that it would have taken
Starting point is 00:56:11 its 25 years of setup to get to that perfect punchline. Well, but the other thing too is that Alex constantly talks about how he likes to engage in satire like that would be satirical. Absolutely. That would be satirizing. I tell you, I do that. I never even thought of that. Of course That would be satirizing. I tell you this right now. I do. They never even thought of that. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Never even considered that. Meanwhile, it's the first thing. First thing. I gotta get in the writers room. I mean, it's absurd. It's absurd how much better a show we could make. Mm. Mm.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Mm. Well, that's what happens when you're driven by this a resentment, a grievement, and hate. And it's not something where you're like, what can I do to make a good show? Yeah. And it's unfortunate. It is.
Starting point is 00:56:50 It really is. So Alex is talking about how people like call a Marussian agent and all this stuff. And he only knows one Russian. I know one of the Russians he knows. Oh, yeah. And so they're just moving on from seven years of staying where all Russian agents would
Starting point is 00:57:05 zero evidence. And I watched House Armed Services Committee hearings five years ago for the Congressman goes, give me one example of a Russian dissent, Folagian. Well, Info Wars now shown to come to mind. He's Russian dissent. Really? Never been to Russia. Don't speak Russian. No one Russian was an army veteran in a patriot that does like call screen force.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So I do know one Russian, one Russian does work for us, doesn't run anything, but I run everything. But the point is I do know a Russian. So that's that's that's that's that. No, there's millions of them around the world. Daria is going to be pissed to learn that she's been demoted to call screener. And she doesn't run anything. She doesn't run anything.
Starting point is 00:57:49 She doesn't run whenever she is able to take the fall for something, she seems to have quite a bit of power. Oh, oh, yes. She's, she's deeply involved in all sorts of organization aspects, executive producing and one of you. But no, no, she's a call. I mean mean frankly, she's your corporate representative at the very least and the reason that I I think that's hers because Alex always Describes her as a veteran. Yeah, and so like that makes sense that it would be her unless there are two Russian veterans who work at
Starting point is 00:58:21 Info Wars one a call screener one Daria which case, why are you hiding the other one? Right. What do you have to hide? Also, I've seen, I've watched the Americans, everybody's secretly a Russian agent. You know it, but we all know so many Russian agents. See what happened was Russia infiltrated the United States and kicked out all Americans and we're actually all Russians.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Mm-hmm. And we moved into, do the actually all Russians. Mm-hmm. And we moved into do the exact same thing. It's like the ADL in the John Birch society. Okay. It's just smart move. All right. I was lost in thought about a TV show that I've never seen. And I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And I think it was because I was like, I've never seen the Americans. And then I started thinking about other shows that i haven't seen i started to think about battle star galactic right right right of course why wouldn't you think about battle star galactic and where james almost come on sure and james almost is fire come on man what do we do it do they get away from the sirens at the end no they are the sirens we are the sirens what I forgot no because at the end they show up at Earth
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah, but I think that's the point. I think we are I don't I honestly don't know this because I don't know I don't know if I've seen the show now you're making me feel like maybe I have I Seen like one or two episodes and I'm aware that at the end they show up at Earth. I'm pretty sure there's a guy named Balthazir, right? Mm-hmm. No, I think so. I do know that Edward James almost isn't. Oh, I know. I'll never forget it almost. Yeah. My buddy Swarongin watched all of them. Out of the way? No. Although that joke was made. Yeah. He was watching that while we lived together. Mm-hmm. And so I got a little bit by like Osmosis, but I never watched it.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Anyway, I don't know why I was thinking about that. I don't know. So yeah, look, the woke stuff all around. Woke my environment. Woke is a problem for people. Can we clearly define it yet? No. Shade, you know. Exactly. See, that's the problem with
Starting point is 01:00:27 a clear definition. I believe that the most accurate one so far is, you know, yeah, no, you know, if you know, you know, it's the Supreme Court definition of pornography. Right. Right. No, when you see you know, wokeness, when you see a woken, your bones. Oh, yeah. So all these companies that are going broke. They're going broke. Uh-oh. And when I see understanding of how this is psychological warfare and people get that, once you're aware of the psychological warfare, you've gotten 35,000 foot view. It's very, very hard to control you. In fact, from again, it has the opposite. It passes you off, it motivates you. opposite it, this is you off, it motivates you, it's for you to stand up. So here's a, here's an example of this. And I describe this as comic Aussies. You see, Anisert Bush loses now $10 billion and now it's 35% of their market and they predict in six months it will
Starting point is 01:01:22 be 60% of their market. They destroyed the number one beer company in the world. It's a billion. Ten million dollars in advertising to get to that point and to be a hundred plus year old company gone. Just gone. Like that. Wipe down. Because the majority of people don't want to teach petafillian children. Oh, that's why. Yeah. So it is fair enough to say that Anahezer-Bush in Bev stock is down about $10 a share in the past month from the mid 60s to the mid 50s. The right-wing tantrum does seem to be having an effect, but this is a case where perspective is necessary.
Starting point is 01:01:58 For instance, does Alex know what in Bev stock price was in late October of 2022? It's around $45 a share. $10 lower than it is now after this draw. Ah, they've been devastated. Does he know that in 2016 their stock was up at about $125 a share? Well, then they then they've been devastated again. Yeah, yeah, they're whining does seem to be making a small debt. But nothing like the impact of bad dividend report would have and has had or the like
Starting point is 01:02:28 like the obviously COVID lockdown like bars being closed is a big hit. A lot of people have commented on some of the slowed down sales have to do with Budweiser in particular being late to the market on Seltzer's, which are like a large part of
Starting point is 01:02:47 retail Chalkahol shopping now So these are these are Factors that are that are in the mix, but what's going on is just a lull That honestly is probably going to be seen by investors as a pretty good opportunity to get in at a cut right because you have to remember that Even Alex doesn't realize how many beer companies are owned by this conglomerate. Yeah. It's all good and well to avoid bud and bud light because you're mad that they had a one-off promotional thing with a trans person. But in order to really hit in-bev, you need to avoid becks, corona, medelo, miccolo, stela
Starting point is 01:03:18 or toa, bush, natty light, concobra, lebat, goose island, and tons of other beers that just appear to be small breweries that are actually owned by Inbeth. Yeah, you know, it's almost like your Floyd's is cool. They're fine. Well, yeah, of course. Yeah, but it's almost like because of the very capitalist thing that they desire so much, a small corporation can gather up so much power you effectively cannot punish them through these types of campaign. But you can feel like you are. You can feel like you're a hero. It would be possible, I think, to consciously stop buying all of their brands, but I think it
Starting point is 01:03:55 would be really hard. And a lot of people are probably buying inbev products without even really even knowing it. Totally. Inbev will be fine. This stock price is down a little bit, but it will recover because people love booze. Alex of all people should understand that and also consider how much penetration they have into foreign markets that aren't swayed by this right-wing culture where bullshitting nonsense.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You're not gonna do anything. No. You are not going to do anything. They are also heavily involved in a number of European and Asian beer companies. And a lot of that will contribute to their fine. Yeah, you know, it is, it is, why is it? And I think I'm not sure if this was true before Citizens United or not. But ever since corporations or people, I feel,
Starting point is 01:04:45 became just an accepted part of our life, it is like, why are you guys mad at Anheuser Bush? It is not a real group of people. There's like 20 people who make decisions. Be mad at 20 people who make decisions. You can't be mad at Bud Light, but like, doesn't exist. Yeah, but you can't shoot those people, and Kid Rock can shoot cans of Bud Light.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Right, but I mean, maybe try talking to those people. That's not as fun. It's not a good video to post on social media. Oh, you know, but it's like, oh, Target is hit by allegations that they are homophobic, and it's like 20 people. Right. Yeah. It's the board. Yeah. Do something about them. Well, I mean, I certainly think that it is a way of diffusing responsibility. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:36 You know, the brand becomes the thing as opposed to the people. Yeah. Seems pretty useful for a small group of people. For bad actors and for people who want good outcomes. Well, good outcomes are being billionaires and such. No, I mean, people who have legitimate social complaints, as well as people like Alex, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, both in both cases, the people who are the actual decision makers are often insulated from those criticisms by anger at the bram. And the consequences for their decisions?
Starting point is 01:06:08 Mm-hmm. Well, go vote, go broke. Yep. Anyway, Alex talks more about the JBS thing as Welch is to be celebrated on Memorial Day. And then he starts talking a little bit about yay. Why? Because he's alone in a hotel room staring at a laptop. That's a fair point. I also said something that went viral. We're at all. And I also said something that went viral a few weeks ago. I was just being honest with speculation. When I'm speculating I say, I don't know, but it feels like this. Nope. And it's come up in the natural front is is government run our organization. That's no. It It's come out the ADL documents seem out of you. It's no they know it was pretty right wing groups and try to make them racist
Starting point is 01:06:50 And when they couldn't they would try to make a race of their names. Nope. Hey, come on guys. Don't you want to hate the The ADL releases are from this no criminal banter in my view The former law center does it too and I Said It's no like Yeh showed up here, because I told him, I don't want to get into the bunch of junior bashing. And I said, I think it would really be good if you reached out and said we should unify all around, basically ideas of freedom and then the first amendment. So yeah, yeah, yeah, we actually want to clear that up.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah, we want to actually do that. That's kind of what you did. He called for everyone to come together, particularly about loving Hitler. Yeah. If anything, it was an exercise and example of the first amendment in action. It was Yez appearance on Info Wars and there's literally no consequences from it. It's first amendment, baby. It was a hoard speech, but it's protected. I know Alex is trying to pretend this was a setup and like a tricked him but based on what
Starting point is 01:07:51 he's claiming they talked about before the show it seems like Alex just didn't realize what he was getting into and how hopefully out of his depth he was with yay and Nick Fuentes. I can understand Alex wanting to save face but this is pathetic and I think like if you're describing that as the conversation you had with yay Or you're like, I don't want to get into a bunch of Jew bashing. I bet yay doesn't think that's what he's doing Yeah, totally from his perspective He and Alex were on the same page going into it I'm not gonna do a bunch of Jew bashing, but I'm gonna talk about how much I love Hitler. Yep Yep do a bunch of juke-ashing, but I'm gonna talk about how much I love Hitler. Yep. Yep. Yeah, I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I understand that it looked really bad and it wasn't embarrassing showing, but you just got to eat it. Yeah. You just got to, you got to take that hit. Everybody's moved on, yeah. Yeah, nobody cares. Nobody cares about, yeah, you're anymore. It all happened and it was over and we all moved on like we do with everything now.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah, but I mean, it had the potential to be really dangerous. And I think it still is. And I think that there's potential for, as we get closer to the 2024 election thing, more things to flare back up. But yeah, like, it was not as big of, like, explosion as it appeared it was going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And who knows what the cause of that is? Like what the cause, maybe it seems to me
Starting point is 01:09:12 that maybe it's just infighting, let do it not being as bad as it could have been. But it doesn't seem that mylo and Nick and Ali Alexander, yay, like all those figures are not people who can coexist. Right. And so they, I think they kind of screwed each other over. Yeah, and none of them have any ability to do stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:31 I mean, yay used to be able to really, really make good, great music, you know, but then the rest of them have no skills or abilities or stuff. They have some skills. Right, but I mean, in terms of political organizing. I actually, I would disagree. Actually of political organizing, I actually, I would, I would disagree. I actually political organizing, not shit talking. There's not much difference these days. Boy, you are not wrong. I think, I think, I think that people like Milo, Nick,
Starting point is 01:09:58 Ali Alexander, they all have certain skills, but they think they have more skills than they do. Yes, that's definitely true. So they, their egos probably don't allow them to just play their role. They all want to be Jordan instead of being coup coach. Yeah. You know, somebody's got to be Rodman. Yeah, well, that's a different that's, that's a whole different kettle of it. Well, that's why yeah. Someone's got to be Steve Kerr. Yeah. Someone's got to be a role player. You know, you got to see not always, all of them want to be the franchise player. Can't do it.
Starting point is 01:10:29 No. No. And I think that probably led to a lot of the, like, steam dissipating around this. Yeah, it does seem like it would be impossible to, I mean, just for, here's what I think. I think it would be impossible for Nick Fuentes to have to sit in a room with Nick Fuentes,
Starting point is 01:10:49 being all Nick at him, you know? Probably. Like at him. Probably. Aggressively him, you know? And what is Milo, but some version of that, you know? And Milo, no, no, no, no, I don't mean it like that. From a temperament perspective.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I mean, from like the, just like being around and just talking, just like always a temperament perspective. I mean from like the just like being around and just talking, just like always being around each other. I disagree. Just not fun. You're not fun people. I'm sure they're all not fun. Yeah. I think you could exist in a room with Nick Fuentes
Starting point is 01:11:16 for a little while and it not be totally draining. I think Milo would get annoying really fast. Yeah, that's definitely true. Milo's had more time to practice at it though Yeah, he all but but that also has to do with like their particular skill sets. Mm-hmm. Nick is a weasley Shithead debater kid who also knows how to change his Presentation for different audiences right whereas Milo he's bread and butter has always been sensational extravagance. It's been trolling. It's been like he was the king of the trolls originally.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah, but see, I don't understand. That's why I find Nick so much more infuriating. Is he's a guy, he's a whiny little, weasley lying, put his face on for different audiences, asshole. Hate that guy. I personally, I mean, obviously I hate them all, but I think I would much rather be in a, if I had to be stuck in a room with one of them, I think, oh, it's Nick. That's, that's a question I don't want to dive into.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I feel like there are times when Nick shuts up and I don't know if that's true of Milo. That's probably true. That is probably true. I also think Milo is a bit more smug. Yeah. And that really that can bother me. I think that's why Nick lasted with yay longer. But didn't Milo come back? Oh my god. I don't know. I haven't kept track of all of their comings and goings. I hate them so much. I do think and here's the other interesting dynamic. This is just me reading from their public presentations and what have. I think that of them, Nick would be the one who is most able
Starting point is 01:12:49 to put ego a bit to the side for the sake of achieving a larger goal. Sure, sure. He, I think, could be a role player. He's still young, though, you know. True. He's still got, he's still young. He's still got something to shoot for.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Milo's on like, Milo's on his, Re-invenction fly. Yeah, he's on his, his nine lives are up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah, that's true. That's true. Nick is kind of like a fresh face on the scene or as Milo's like, come on man. Yeah, no, if you're, if you're talking, if you're talking to Nick,
Starting point is 01:13:22 you can have this conversation of like, hey buddy, it's not your time yet. You, you hang back, you're talking to Nick, you can have this conversation of like, hey buddy, it's not your time yet. You hang back, you learn, you do what you can, and then you'll have your shot, you know, that kind of thing. Milo already had a shot. That's over.
Starting point is 01:13:35 That's a sad realization, isn't it? He had his shot. He had it. He was working at Breitbart. It really was. Anyway, enough of this nonsense. Yep. Yay. enough of this nonsense. Yeah, might be a fed.
Starting point is 01:13:48 According to Alex. In when? When did he begin being a fed? If he's a fed, I want to know when did it start? I think Alex is trying to speculate that he had tax problems and that he got blackmailed over it. That's kind of the suggestion that Alex is making. All right, so Jesus, maybe.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Well, they work for the Feds or not. I might be staying nice to case. I mean, I can tell you want to come on right when I go live. It's a one minute before we go live. He shows up wearing a mask. And I said, okay, we take it off later. Yeah, maybe. What we gonna talk about it and then the whole thing is I love that we're the Jews for bad and all stuff. So I simply said, this feels like a setup. People think the dinner with Trump was a setup. I'm not even saying that.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Well, they talk about loving Hitler, but then it was Trump. And Trump didn't know who was coming to the dinner. He thought, he was. He ate West. So I'm not saying he ate West as a pig. Maybe he's the greatest troll ever. I believe this person, the US. So I'm not saying the US is a fed. Maybe he's the greatest troll ever. I believe the first number of rights. But the point is when you look at his dialectic, I'm not saying Nick Pointes. Now, now his supporters ran around and said, they say Nick is a fed. I said, I don't know this. And I'm not even saying this is a case. I'm saying he is yay being blackmailed with his tax issues and the rest of it, where he suddenly comes out and quadruples down and does this.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And I'm simply saying, if there's a long history of the ADL other groups, getting people to behave like this and act like this and do these other things, then I mean, you go out to a Nazi rally american not see party rally i've covered they're very rare but they had an awesome and you look at it and it's a bunch of art students gated and in july's guys and you can see i mean
Starting point is 01:15:37 i mean it it was like very david not so uh... and and you know you'll come here i look well you know i don't know you know you out there. And you look at me, I look well. You know, the other well-shared is angle. People look like me. I got the well-shared. And these guys look like Larry David. They're just wearing Nazi outfits. It's no fight. And then out of the ADL admits they're doing this. Well, I mean, you're coming to gay West. This whole thing. I'm just like, I'm like, is this the set up? I'm allowed to say that. Sure. Okay. You're allowed to say it. I think it's uncompelling, unconvincing.
Starting point is 01:16:08 And it's also in service of, you know, just trying to excuse your shitty interview. That's kind of sad. So yay, bankruptcy issues. Right. Can't do anything. Oh no, the government comes in, G-Men, come in deposition style.
Starting point is 01:16:26 The adjustment bureau shows up through a door with their hat totally 100% and they're like, listen, we'll take care of this for you. We got you. But you have to go on info ward. Well, I mean, obviously also Gavin McGinnis' show, Tim Poole's show, and Twitter. But I mean, you know, like, but in this case, you have to wear a mask. Yeah. And bring a you-hoo and a net. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, did they come up with this? Because he didn't wear the mask on other shows, right?
Starting point is 01:16:58 Did they wear, they were like specifically for Alex? You wear the mask. Also, no, he did wear the mask on the other show. Well, not on Tim Poole's show, but then I thought he was in. Oh, okay. And then also part of the blackmail with the Texas was that Alex had to keep him on air for three hours.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex absolutely cannot, yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, also this whole like the Nazis are actually gay theater students thing. I thought that was about the Unite the Right Rally. Like, that was his story for that. Now it's American Nazi party rallies in Austin
Starting point is 01:17:30 that Alex has allegedly been to. All right, whatever, man. Yeah. The trope of Jews creating their own oppression and what have you is a deeply antisemitic idea that has been trafficked. And so, I mean, Alex, again, you are allowed to say these things, but you're kind of showing yourself a little bit.
Starting point is 01:17:50 You shouldn't. Yeah, you shouldn't. They seem very dumb. And anti-Semitic. Very much so. So, Alex talks about, hey, Memorial Day, baby. Sure, he talks about. He got a memorial.
Starting point is 01:18:03 He talks about some of his family members who have served. Sure, yes, that is what we should be doing, right? Except I don't think that this is somebody who's... Who died in service. What the... That's not their day. It's not their day! No, but he still got to talk about it. And apparently he had a relative who was involved in Iran Contra.
Starting point is 01:18:23 When my uncle died about seven years ago, it was a Vietnam War hero, an amazing guy, we dug to his stuff. And it was like, wow, we had to, it was like, all the wars he got, all the stuff doesn't stop real. All these silver stars, you name it. And one of his, he was also a great stand up guy, he was probably one of his all-in-such a great standup guy is my pilot. I have a favorite, you know, extended family member, super smart and hated the new world order so the US government was run by by some pedophiles.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And that's what leads me to this next moment. He said, there's always going to be a point where you're working in a system where it gets so bad you make it decision to keep your soul fortified. Because when he heard himdied of pneumonia. It was a great shape. It was got pneumonia and died. And I said, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:19:13 And he said, well, you know, I was doing stuff in Central America, in South America. And I ran contra, I didn't give them the sales of, it was all secret. As an army officer, he said, it was kids. He said, the government was smuggling kids out of orphanages in Guatemala and giving them the really bad people, and he had to get out of it at that point.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Well, now you see that major league upscaled going on for everybody. So imagine how big that is, and even in my family, my mother's brother, you know, witnessed that. You'll never believe what a higher coincidence this is that that's exactly the story that Larry Nichols tells. So weird. So weird how that works. It's not only like against the odds that this would be a family member of Alex's, but that one of his sources would have the exact same story
Starting point is 01:20:05 and present things in the exact same way. If you have to say, you have to choose between your soul, you know, like all that he uncovered that they were dealing in kids and they had to get out. And yeah, that's the, wow, what are the odds? Yeah, it's almost like we're not the only people who memorialized Larry Nichols passing. Yeah, we have finally got another, an RIP Larry Nichols. We stole it. We stole it.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Larry Nichols is Alex's uncle. Yeah, it's so easy to, wow. That's, look who cares. Man's dead man story. But who cares? They're all like, they're all liars and con people. So like, why not? It's like, it's like the Bundy standoff
Starting point is 01:20:44 where they're all sitting around the fire, tell like war stories that they were never a part of. Well, you know, I feel like when I die, I would not mind if my organs were given to people to give them a, you know, to be able to continue on with share a lot. Sure, sure, absolutely. In the same way, con man, I'm sure are fine
Starting point is 01:21:03 with their lives being used for further con. Do you think you bequeath your cons? You have to sign your back your life. Yeah, I mean, I was wondering, do you, is there a deed to the con? Like, yeah, it's property. Not intellectual, but it's property. Well, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. So you actually have one last clip here because Alex, not, not, I have an hot one.
Starting point is 01:21:24 No, I mean, he's in a hotel room. And, not, not I have an hot one. No, I mean, he's in a hotel room. And he is for the next few days after this. No, oh my God. Same hotel room. Oh my God. Still there as far as I can tell. We're recording this on Thursday and he, I, I, not checked his show today, but you might
Starting point is 01:21:39 still be in that room. All right. Two weeks going on since he's been in studio. Gotta get back into the studio. Come on, man. Yeah, yeah. I'm four, I'm pro work from home. Yeah, you can handle that.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Not the we work from home, obviously. I'm anti work from hotel. That's just a wrong place to do it. Boy, when we were down in Austin for the trial, we worked from a hotel. Exactly, we did a lot of work and I went crazy. No, that was because you were on Twitter too much. There's a lot of places to go crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:08 So yeah, Alex talks a little bit here about the, there's a source that the John Birch Society had. And I found it interesting that he's able to pull this name because he's now one for specifics. And I'll be honest with you, not a satisfying last clip for an episode. Doesn't really put a button on anything. But here we are.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And the John Burst Society had people in the Pentagon that were patriots like Fletcher Proudi, who ran the major regime change operations to a scum. They had people like Fletcher Proudi and others giving them all the intel. Men that were in the briefing rooms, we told this us all plan and these men are in these meetings but this is horrible and hand in giving it out to the converts and a lot of people involved in overthrow operations that Alex admires like Steve Pachanik yeah miss that guy yeah what if he was in the hotel oh my god that's that's what you do right you gotta have a reveal house keeping you got to have the reveal of it being him the whole
Starting point is 01:23:07 Oh Alex do you not leave a tip Alex come on look at the sheets So that's not a great name for Alex pull out as the secret source for the John Birch Society Fletcher Proudy did have a long career in the services, but he's also kind of remembered as a lunatic sure Proudy has been involved in a number of incorrect conspiracy assertions over the years, mostly revolving around the JFK assassination. He was so important to that stuff that it said that he was the inspiration for Donald Sutherland's character in Alverstone's JFK. Yeah, that sounds right.
Starting point is 01:23:38 He also had a penchant for targeting people unnecessarily and incorrectly for things that would bolster his conspiracy claims, which is pretty similar. Yeah, that seems right on the par for course. For instance, he cast suspicion on Louis Whitt, who would become to be known as the umbrella man, who was an innocent bystander at the JFK Association. Right. He also inaccurately accused a man named Alexander Butterfield of being a CIA liaison with the
Starting point is 01:24:03 White House. That was not true. He was accused of man named Alexander Butterfield of being a CIA liaison with the White House. That was not true. He's essentially a shit-talker with little credibility, also much like Alex. Yeah. Also like Alex, he had a tendency to keep bad company. He was pretty involved with the Church of Scientology
Starting point is 01:24:17 and was called upon by them to be an expert witness to back up Elrond Hubbard's ridiculous claims about his military service. Oh, wow. So again, this is, this is a person with almost no credibility and shady assumptions, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the history that is made out of bullshit and confidence is, is, is unparalleled. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:49 So like he, he is responsible for like having an affidavit that suggested that Elrond Hubbard's military service might be sheep dipped. It might be a situation where there's a lot of stuff being intentionally withheld, because he was involved in high level naval intelligence. Ha ha ha. Sure he was, but. Yeah, so sure he was.
Starting point is 01:25:15 So that's the guy who was secretly feeding all this intel to the JPS. Yes, man. Given yourself putting that on paper, an affidavit. Yep. Oh, I was unable to tell exactly like if he was actually in Scientology, or if he was just somebody that was willing to serve as an expert witness for them on stuff that he
Starting point is 01:25:36 wasn't necessarily an expert on nor knew anything about. Yeah. Either way, not good. It seems like he would be primed for both opportunities. If like one, if you're Elrond, you're thinking, oh, this guy, he's on the edge of Scientology already. I don't need to do much, but watch him fall. Or you're thinking, this guy will say whatever I pay him to.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Who knows, but like, it's an interesting name for him for Alex to pull out. It was so specific. Watch our priority. It was so specific. Watch our priority. It was very specific. I do know that. I think he knows a lot more about the John Birch society
Starting point is 01:26:11 than even we think. Maybe it's hard to believe. It is, but I really think that it's possible. But if he does, if he does, then it's a lot more damning of a picture than, yeah, then maybe even. Well, but it's a lot more damning of a picture than maybe even. Well, but that's the thing. I think it's always been my sense that a lot of that John Birch society's stuff is things that he read as a kid and things that were culturally part of the household.
Starting point is 01:26:38 So a lot of the ideas and the belief system is there. He has that and it's part of who he is and his cultural and intellectual tradition. Sure. But then the specifics of things like Fletcher Proudy, that kind of throws me off a little bit. Here's my theory on it. And I'm going to throw this out and I'm going to say that this is based on some experience.
Starting point is 01:27:01 I feel as we watch as decline, we are seeing some of those onion layers get pulled back as he becomes more and more desperate. Wow, he's in a hotel room. Exactly. And I think he is rely. He's spoken more about JBS. I feel like in the past year or two, and he has in any of our investigations. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think as we see stuff get fall as he declines as he disintegrates We see what his core really is and it's fucking JBS man. Yeah, sure there is more talk about JBS in the same way that the Really grotesque and extreme devil talk. Yeah, became more as things progressed. Yeah Yeah, I mean who knows that that leads us to a real question of what do we get? Yeah, that, that, that, that,
Starting point is 01:27:47 What's the core? Peach pit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That looks as, ooh. Oh my God. It's probably bad. Yeah. That Grinch's heart's not gonna go three sizes.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I'll tell you that right now. No, sir. No, ma'am. The who's are all dead. We are dead. We have ended. He's out there to steal Christmas. Christmas is mine.
Starting point is 01:28:05 He's defending a second amendment, breaking into houses, gun grab, and hoos. Hell yeah. So we'll be back, Jordan, in another episode. And now I, I, I will check in and cover his hotel antics. Oh for sure. But I do want him to get back to studio. This vacation's gone on too long. Too long. He's not in prime mid-season form
Starting point is 01:28:26 when he's in a hotel room sitting by himself. Yeah. And it's just kind of a bummer to imagine that he's sitting there having to drink it noon, and then he's just gonna go to the pool afterwards. It's like this sucks. Yeah. Get back to work, man.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah, yeah, and it makes him sad. Yeah. You can tell that sitting there in front of the computer doing the show is just a t-shirt Just kind of like it's not the info war. You know, it's a show That's that's the thing. It's a show when he's in studio. Right. Yeah, but I mean make a show If you're gonna do a show you have to make a show you can't just be in your fucking hotel room. Yeah You know, it's just a zoom interview or something. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a it's off unless you do a bit in which case you got yourself a show. Now it would have been fantastic.
Starting point is 01:29:08 That would have been fantastic. If Rob do comes in another way. Damn it. I got you ice. All right. Do. So we'll be back. Uh, but until then Jordan. We have a website. Indeed, we do. It's not as fight.com. Yeah. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's add to our judges. Go fight. Yeah. We'll be back. But until then, uh, I'm Nio. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark Still haven't come up with a new bit, but boop boop Yeah, oh yeah, and now here comes the sex robots and the enchants us. You're on the earth. Thanks for holding So Alex some of my first time color in my huge fan. I love your work. I love you
Starting point is 01:29:38 I like some of the first time I've called her in my huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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