Knowledge Fight - #817: June 8, 2023

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the day before Trump got indicted on the Alex Jones Show.  In this installment, Alex interviews three idiots, tells countless fictional stories about family members, and gleefully reflects on a time he punched a dog in the head.

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Nicely done. Thank you. It rhymes with hey hey, hooray. Fantastic. It's very good. You know, she's our generation's David Bowie at this point. Ooh. She is. She's an Oscar-winning actor. Does she have two different colored eyes? Is that the Bowie who was the claim to fame of his? He had a had a recromia.

I think so. It wasn't, I don't remember. I never, I couldn't look in his eyes too busy with the rest of him. You know what I'm saying? Hey. So a lot to drink in. He's tall. I feel ya.

Tall glass. So when is Janelle Monet going to come out with her Moon Age Day dream? I don't know, I don't know, maybe our chandroid is Moon Age Day. What about her ground control to major Tom? I mean, I want to say that Django Jane was probably as close to a like Sing-a-long style, you know, like that wasn't that listen I understand that rapping can take many forms, but she was just talking. Mm-hmm. That was very much talking All right. Yeah. What tracks of hers do you think will live on for really depressed weirdos to sing at karaoke? Oh, that one is that one's a little bit harder to do. That one I can't pull up.

She's more upbeat. Yeah. More on the, more on the happier side. Mm-hmm. I mean, not happier, so much as an frenetic. Sure. Yeah, it's very energetic. Yeah. I've not heard that new album, but I will have to check it out. I like her work in general. It's quite good. So, great. Yeah. My name. Yeah. Oh boy. Anyways, what's your price? That's right mate is no, no, no, that came out of the I guess I'll go with some music as well. Okay. Um, I don't know how it popped up on I I have a suspicion of how it popped up on my YouTube recommendations. Um, but just some music from like I listened to music from Donkey Kong Country quite a bit. Sure, sure. Like a fair amount because because it's good. David Wise, fantastic composer.

Okay, okay. I feel like you're defensive right at the gate. I found somebody who made, or you can use the sounds from Donkey Kong Country soundtrack and then put them into other music. Right. And so I found a number of songs and things that were done with the sounds from Donkey Kong

country. Sure, sure, sure. And they're great. Like the like DJ Danger Mouse, Donkey Kong, DJ Donkey Kong mouse or something. Yeah, whatever. Sure. Donkey Kong. Yeah.

Yeah. There was one that was in the air tonight by Phil Collins. Sure. And it works incredibly well, except for when they to do that part stop to do with Donkey Kong sounds It's not that part stuff It's not as huge of a drop But what other things are tough to do with Donkey Kong so many things. I'm sure Janelle Monet would have more difficulty The but the beginning of that song, you know that kind of atmospheric atmospheric kind of thing. It sounds really cool with Donkey Kong.

That sounds... And basically what I'm saying is I think all music should be Donkey Kong. I think that is kind of what I'm hearing. It's hard for people to then be like, you know, let's take Dan's music opinions about Scott seriously if they're right alongside of what if everything was Donkey Kong? Well, I mean my buddy Far Out had a song that used a sample to song from a Donkey Kong country.

There was a great, there was a great, Scott version of the Super Mario theme for sure. There's Scott versions of just about everything. Yeah, there was like me first and the Gimmy Gimmies did all those Scott covers. Right, so now we need Donkey Kong versions of all the sco versions of other songs. We need a less than Jake or a me first in the Gimmie Gimmies, but with Donkey Kong. Yes, exactly.

100%. Why is my album of brief covers, but with Donkey Kong? We've reached the heights of music. Yes, yeah, we nailed it. Okay, I mean, look, there's so much music getting made. Why can't this be some of it? This just have, why can it. Okay. I mean, look, there's so much music getting made. Why can't this be some of it? It's just, why can't it just have talking?

Yes. Yeah. That. I'm thinking about the trends that have happened over the course of my life. I will say none of them are going to be talking calling sounds in the future. Probably not. But how much worse would they be than swing when swing was you? I mean, you're not wrong.

You're not wrong. Right. I'm not saying you're wrong. I would take somebody doing a whole Donkey Kong album over Zoot Suit right? Easy. Yeah. I mean, I was about to say, is it more absurd than Mombo number five? Or like one of the absolute. Yeah. Mombo number five wasn't swing though. It wasn't swing, but do you? It was absurd for that to be a song that everybody was like we agree. This is the greatest song of the year I don't know I look there's a lot of competition that you're I'm not sure if it was the top song here, but I'm gonna say this and this is gonna be a controversial Okay

I have a little to it in a really long time, but I have a suspicion that Mombu number five isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be I feel like Lou Beg a might have gotten a bad rap It seems like it's just kind of a fun like a little bit of That seems like it's just gonna be a fun poppy. Yeah, it is it is, but yeah, okay, how how how is that any worse than how bizarre? Let's make it don't get Kong set sure. Yes. Yes A little bit of Dixie in my life. Yep. A little bit of cranky makes me old. There is no writers room we can't punch up. You know, it's just the two of us. Lou Begah hit us up. Do a Donkey Kong cover. Do a Donkey Kong. A humble number. Donkey Kong. There was the Donkey Kong rap in the Donkey Kong 64 that was terrible.

Sure. That's not what I'm talking about. Sure. No. No. No. I don't think David Wise had anything to do with that one. I'm going to hold out.

Hope for that. So Jordan, today we have a present day episode to go over. And I will say that on our last episode I said that we were gonna cover Alex's response to Trump's indictment indeed on today's episode. Yeah, I fucked up I did the I prepared the wrong day. What are you gonna do? I The evening of the eighth is when Trump got on to a truth social and said I have been indicted In all this. Sure.

So I forgot, I thought it was a day earlier. Ah, so we're doing the eight. We're talking about the eight. Right. And I will say my experience of listening was like, man, he is not talking about tropes and type men. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha Why he's so weird suspiciously mum on the topic Frankly, he doesn't even say a word. Yeah, and so on Friday we'll talk about the night There's enough to discuss here and as you said we can have as a little suspense

Technically, that's three present-day episodes in a row true You know you go back you were like oh, we're to do all those present episodes. Then he goes on vacation. Now here we are cranking him out. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Even if one was a Tucker. Yeah. Which I appreciate people's positive feedback on. He's the most important person in the world. Yeah, absolutely. I understand that. But it's still kind of a little bit of off the beaten path for us and I wasn't sure if people would respond well to it But it seems like folks have so we will Check in on episode two and then their future seems like it's inevitable But first before we get to today's episode Jordan let's say hello to some new wonk. Oh, that's a great idea So first Lauren Cates was going to symbolically donate 1.5 billion of some currency But even the most devalued currency in the world Iranian R Rial, that's still $35,000 US dollars. Thank you so much, you're an

out-pollosy-wong. I'm a policy-wong. Thank you very much. What about Max Coin? Ooh, 1.5 billion of those would be 0.1500 repeating dollars. Maybe. Yeah. It can't be worth much. Next, my name is Shackleford. Rusty Shackleford. Thank you so much, you're an outpullesy wank. I'm a policy wank. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, the genius who split a wank shout out between two friends, birthdays, is now a doctor

and a policy wank. Congratulations, Dr. Dora, love Aaron and Bee. Thank you so much, you're an outpullesy wank. I'm a policy wank. Thank you very much. Next, a little pumpkin time for the cats. Thank you so much, you're an outpullesy wank. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I go next little pumpkin time for the cats. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. Thank you. Next happy late birthday, Sydney M. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got to take the credit of I'm a policy walk. For start, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone, someone, satamite sent me a book in a poop. Daddy Shark. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Jones and the headphones.

Yeah. Good swing band. Good swing band name. Yeah renounce Jesus Christ. Jones on the headphones. Yeah. Good, good swing band. Good swing band name. Yeah, you know it. That's why you're smirk it. I would have gone, I would have gone more of Scott. There's a thin line. But to me, it's thick between swing and Scott. There's a thin line like Aril Morris made a documentary about it. That was about cops, right?? The, uh, the society at large believes that there's a thin line between swing and sky. And that's because of the horns. And I accept

that. Sure. But there is a big difference between them. And one is that the sky is fucking awesome and swing sucks. That's the big difference. I hate syncopation. I prefer straight for four time. I also think that the whole costume of the swings of this little... I hate to let the listeners miss out on the industry and a very dismissive hand wave at the same time. If I realize, I don't get what they're doing with the clothes. And I realized that as I was doing that hand gesture, like,

Skaw people wear like skinny black ties and everything is planned. I'm just like, all right, baby, baby. I'll pop all the cattle. There's cost problems all over the place. Yep, all right. So we jump in here on the eighth, June 8th, and Alex has a big story all over the place. Yep, all right. So we jump in here on June 8th, and Alex has a big story to lead the episode. Wow.

Well, last night James Cummings, 10-foot tall giant cremdle, came to speak and said, that a nickname was peacefully, articulately, articulately a new word. It was peacefully in an articulate way Confronted by Owen Troyer and by mint others And we'll have some of the video that it's all in fours commas gone viral and Owen is gonna be

Popping in with us to cover this later in the broadcast. Yeah, Owen Troyer's gonna come in and report on how he yelled at James Comey. Oh boy, which he doesn't do, by the way. Peaceful. I think he might have hosted the fourth hour, been on in the fourth hour or something, but yeah. He yelled at Comey. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's, I'm fine with all of that. Sure.

Go yell at Comey and then get kicked out, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. Yeah. What I'm not so fine with is the idea of like, this is news. Yeah, no, this is my employee yelled at Komi and now we're going to cover it as a news story. Like Wolf Blitzer doesn't go and disrupt some event and then be like, wow, people are really mad at this event.

You did that. It is a bit like somebody at a fucking newsroom being like shit Nothing's happening today and then throwing a grenade at the window and being like all right now We got something to cover yeah local grenade goes on exactly yeah totally yeah Pretending that there's something more to the story that you're employee went to Yeah, absolutely awesome So on our last episode We talked about Tucker. Yes,ed about Tucker and his Twitter show.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of people had some not so great reviews of it. I think our review was negative generally. Yeah. Content wise. The staggering anti-Semitism usually does not engender great positive reviews. Let me say this as a positive. Yeah. Could have been more anti-Semit usually does not engender great positive reviews. Let me say this as a positive.

Yeah. Could have been more anti-Side. Could have been longer. Yeah. So certainly he could have done worse. It was short. A lot of folks were disappointed, even fans or people who were like towards Tucker's side, that it was only 10 minutes.

Like it's just a monologue that people were expecting an actual show Right, and so you know, there's been there's been some like this is it. This is what you're doing And Alex is on the other side. Yeah, it does genius. He thinks it's fucking great. Okay, okay So we've got that stack of news on the beginning and to a great until today. Then we've got the massive Tucker Carlson news and Tucker's in very good spirits and the sun just got married. Congrats. And he just released episode one. As you know, two days ago, he's going to start doing it four days a week, starting very

soon. I can tell you that. And it got 104 million views as I predicted it would get. I said, yes, go on, Crowder Show. I said, by the morning, when I go on here, it'll have 100. I believe I said 102 million views, but the point is you had 104 million. As of show time today, we show you screenshot of that. I have no idea why you would predict 102 million. That's somewhat ridiculous. I don't think that was what he predicted. I that's just one of the why do you need to be right about that?

He's so right. You need to be right about just let that one to be right about that. Just let that one go. Also, I checked on this and Twitter, the videos don't have views anymore. The tweet was viewed that many times. But I don't know how many actual watches it has. Right, right. I did, obviously, if you have 100 million people

who saw the tweet, then you'd assume that it's still millions of people watched it and yeah, good for you, but you also have to take into consideration that there's a difference between something that you can watch anytime you want that's 10 minutes long in a tweet and appointment television, you know, there's There's a difference between what sizes of audiences you're generally going to get totally. There's also a difference in terms of relevance. Also, and I mean, I hate to come to Tucker's defense here, but it's awful hard to get an entire production crew ready to make a full show this fast.

Not if you're talking. He's got an entire right-wing Ding Dong brain trust. Sure, but I mean, you've got to have, you got to have gaffers, you got to have camera people, you got to have, you got to have the whole, I don't know why gaffers, number one, if I'm doing a show, I got to have a gaffer. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

I think there's a lot of young Republicans. There's a whole league of them. Sure. And I whole league of them. Sure. And I think some of them are probably young and have technical abilities. I think you could probably get a crew put together from some grippers pretty easily.

All right. He seems to have no problem with employing white nationalist weirdos. Sure. So I think you could get it done pretty quick. Yeah. They'd love to fly to whatever fucking shack he's filming this out of. Yeah, I mean, this is the Ragtag crew from Armageddon.

All right. I mean, sure, they pulled it off in the end, but that was a movie. Yeah. All right. That was way that was longer than that. We're gonna need Ben Affleck. We're gonna need Bruce. Gotta have Aerosmith involved.

Sure. Yeah. Who else is in that movie? I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, But you're somebody who is a huge Tucker is the most important person in the world type a guy. I don't think the result is what you want it. I don't think that that is the continuation of the legacy of the most important man in the world. That's true. Though, it wasn't a bomb. It was something.

Yes. And some people enjoyed it. Most people thought it was underwhelming. That's where you should be coming at this from. A good start to build from is what I would go with if I were Alex. Yeah, I mean, I think what's important is Tucker is just keeping his name out there.

He's just out there. He's a people are talking Tucker. Yeah, like maybe you'd the show that you're on, that you did a set on, maybe it wasn't the best set, maybe it wasn't the best show But you're keeping your name out there everybody and people know you're still out there You're still out there hitting the stage totally that way whenever they're talking to me. Who do we want to book? Well, I just saw on a flat moon, right? Yeah, you know, you don't want to go away forever and people like where have you been?

Yeah, you got to be on the tip of the tongue exactly. Yeah, so anyway there was a headline For the American Journal, Harrison Smith's show. That was about how great Tucker's show was and I was thrilled about it. I had to write the headline this morning because I got it on the link because I was working on things. So, I've been wrote the headline, it's an excellent headline for the live show. I remember that we have a post that they're using, I write it.

But it does say it all. So I was very pleased with what Ben wrote, and it's that the leftist control corporate press is in a total panic. Over 30 carols are getting over 100 million viewers. Thursday live, deep state rushes, Trump indictment, as New World Order loses narrative control of economy, COVID jabs, Ukraine war, climate change, border and more. Oh, I guess it was the other headline for National Journal with Harrison Smith. So scroll down.

There's a perfect headline up there. That was good too, but just scroll down guys for me. Just to see you know where I mean. Yeah, just scroll down. Yeah, to the next show. That little faster. I feel like he's mad at the crew. to scroll down. Now to the next show. A little faster. I feel like he's mad at the crew.

The American Journal, Fox threatens the silence Tucker after he proves mainstream media is extinct. And this is bigger than Tucker. 104 million views for a 10-minute show shot in his living around and then the national news declares it any semitic and declares it a failure well i mean they didn't declare it anti-smarty described it as that because it was yeah i mean and mean, and, you know, I think you can tell by seeing people like Andrew Anglin cheering

on the anti-Semitism of it. I mean, you know, like that's, you know, that's usually a good barometer. Yeah, why would we even care what the, what the media says? We don't care what the, the media says about whether or not something's anti-Semitic. You know what we do care about? What do anti-Semites say? And if they say it's anti-Semitic, you know what we do care about? What do anti-Semites say? And if they say it's anti-Semitic, I think you gotta own it. I'm not sure that you'd be your only gay, but it is.

Sure. It does see, if they say what we do is anti-Semitic. It's very excited about the anti-Semitism of something. You might wanna ask yourself a question. Right. Is this thing? Yeah. So the other things that are important to recognize here.

First, the headline for Alex's show mentions the DOJ rushing Trump's indictment. And so that was the only point when I was listening to this, I'm like, wait, wait a second, this is gonna, he is gonna get into the indictment. No, it doesn't, it's a day before. But also, Alex doesn't know the name of Harrison Smith show. He said the national journal. I don't blame him. No, I mean, he listened. Okay. Harrison used to play

in the American journal, but then he got traded to the national journal. They, and they used to not have a D H, but now I mean, that's all changed. Oh, what a mess. Yeah, I know. Alex doesn't know the name because no one watches that dumb show and there's no reason for it to exist. Yeah, and because I think he got a confused with the national file. I thought that's what I thought he was talking about. I didn't think he was talking about it since the show at all. What are all these dumb things I run?

So Alex is gonna, okay, listen, this show sucks. The eye enjoy when he takes a lot of calls because you can get a little bit of chaos, you get a sense of what some of the listeners are feeling. Sure. And sometimes you get fun recurring guest characters in the colors. All manhouse fun. Louisiana dentures.

Absolutely a delight. Charles, the gentleman Charles from the buyer. The gentleman Charles. the buy you German Charles So you have that and it's a lot of fun could the converse of that is this and that's when Alex has a number of guests And they're just kind of like booh a cavalcade of boring people kind of yeah And just like the there's not a lot of juice I'm not interested in these people and they're not that interesting and one one of them is going to be Peter McCullough, who's an anti-vax cardiologist type. A lot of COVID misinformation out of him.

But he's on because he has some breaking news about Jamie Foxx. So, I asked the producers this morning to try to get to the bottom of the Jamie Foxx situation, which we pretty much have got to the bottom. First the media a month ago said, oh, he didn't have a stroke. That's fake news. He's fine. Then, well, he's running to walk again and did have a stroke and he did take the shot.

Then I saw him put out a video, we'll play coming up next segment. Very short, we said, listen, I know all you're asking questions, and I want to just say, I appreciate you asking those questions. Thanks for asking the questions. He's talking about the shots specifically. So we get McCullough on last break, and I talked to him briefly, he's coming on next segment. And I said, what's these photos we see of you, which Amy Fox is this accurate? Are you in contact with him?

He said, yes. So he's coming on with the big scoop next segment. Probably should have said that. He started next segment. Probably should have said that to start the segment. Here's a photo of Dr. Peter McCullough with Fox before he took the shot, but Fox wasn't aware of the shot. He didn't want to take the shot. He talked to McCullough about it last year. That was getting pissed and repressioning too. And now it's come out that indeed he did take multiple shots and knows the shot did it. And that is reportedly going to be coming out very, very soon. So Jamie Foxx didn't thank all the anti-vaxxers for asking questions. He

posted on Instagram quote appreciate all the love feeling blessed. I guess you just got to heighten that a little. That's a little bit different. But yeah, there's also a short little video that Alex plays later, but it also doesn't say any of this. What's going on with Jamie Foxx right now is really disgusting. He had a medical situation that he and his family have requested privacy regarding. Most of the people in his life, and a fair amount of the media, is respecting that, and as much as they're covering that he was in the hospital, but waiting until he's ready to talk about it, to get into specifics or pry about it.

But these other fraud-esque communities are latching onto his medical situation and using it to promote themselves. Initially, the Q-leaning folks were saying that this was an attempted assassination because Fox was about to reveal all the secrets of the Hollywood elite parties thrown by people like Ditty. Then the anti-vaxxers came around for their slice of the action and the narrative is that Fox reluctantly got vaccinated and it's now almost killed him. Peter McCullough has zero credibility and there's one picture

that everyone posts of him with Jamie Foxx, but who knows when that's from or what the context of that picture is. I mean, floating out there somewhere in the universe is a picture of me with two live crew. That's true. Yeah, we didn't talk about the vaccine. Are you sure?

Yeah, me and Hocket Ice did not discuss the vaccine. Fine. On the off chance that he did speak with Fox about any kind of like medical situation or in any capacity like that. And he's now disseminating that information that he learned on Info Wars. That seems really unethical. At very least, he better be able to demonstrate that Fox consented to allowing him to do this interview about him.

This might be an actual hippo violation. Yeah, I think it is. But then again, I don't think they actually this interview about him. This might be an actual hippo violation. Yeah, I think it is. But then again, I don't think they actually really talked about anything. So Peter McCullough doesn't have any information to disseminate. Here's my conspiracy theory. Right. They're going after everybody who was in in living color. Okay.

All right. So everybody does everybody have eyes on Tommy Davidson. All of the weigh-ins. How the weigh-ins are in danger. Get them out of the country. Kerry's an anti-vaxxer. Kerry, see this? Maybe he's the one behind it. Maybe he started it.

He's the one to take him out. Rosie Perez? Wasn't she a fly girl? Was she a fly girl? It wasn't Jennifer Lopez. Jennifer Lopez was a fly girl. I don't think Rosie Perez was a fly girl. Okay. Yeah, you probably right.

The night of just been thinking of Jennifer Lopez. Yeah, yeah. Who's now married to Ben Affleck, who is a very charming Dunkin Donuts commercial. Wait, what? They're married again. Yeah. Oh God. I just, I can't do this. And he's in a Dunkin Donuts commercial. It's very charming. I don't do TV. I don't do no news. I'm done about about no more lose only, only runs of in living color from here on out. I wonder, I wonder if they have a bunch of cast members that you wouldn't think of, that, that like, you know, some of those shows do like, like, like, like, Matt TV, and you know, I was gonna say, I was just thinking that I bet there are so many people who are like,

really, they had, they did a year on in living color. There was a song for five seasons. Yeah. And there was, there were plenty of people in the writers room who suddenly got on for like the Fox was only on the, he was only a star in the fifth season. Uh-huh. And then he was featured on three and four. That's what I did.

Yeah. Okay. So I've got the full cast list up here. We got Jim Carey. Yes. Tommy Davidson. Sure. Uh, David Allen Greer. Oh, we got dad. We forgot dad. How could you forget? I forget dad. Right. Yeah. Uh, Keenan Ivory Wands Kim Wands. David Wands. Yeah. Kim Coles first season.

Oh, man. That was a John Wands. That was a cast. Marlon Wands. Well, yes, obviously. Oh, but only on the fourth season as a featured player Marlon Wayne's huh? DJ twist I don't know Fly girls Jennifer Lopez their choreographer was Rosie Perez no Man you tried to play with I not know that she was the choreographer man, you tried to play with how can I not know that she was the

choreographer? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. I thought she was too busy. She was there for the first four seasons. She's. Guest stars.

Chris Rock. Yeah. A special guest star. For sure. Ellen Claycorn. Of course. Jim Meadows. All right.

Yeah. Yeah, there's a few that, few folks that you forgot. Yeah. But a lot of those, a lot of those people you remember, that's because they went on to fucking run the show for 30 years or whatever. Almost 40 now. A lot of talent. Yeah. Um, so yeah, maybe, maybe that's what's happening with JB Fox. Yeah, that's it. That was that what we started with that on. Yeah, yeah, I want to say that.

Yeah. So I look at some other headlines to run down that are all bullshit. I want to say that. So I look at some other headlines to run down that are all bullshit. All over the U.S., all over Canada, all over Germany, all over the U.K., all over France, they are resting peaceful Christians for even silently praying. That's coming up. And the EU has announced a plan to take the American people's speech. And the woman literally sounds like Dr. Evil, cross with the clashwab, who is the same thing as Dr. Evil. Because I can't do a Dr. Evil, Cross with Klaus Schwab, who is the same thing as Dr. Evil. Because I can't do a Dr. Evil.

This is what it means. Organic meat production just as bad for the climate, study finds, lending to our him, and then another one, eating local produce actually is not good for the earth and needs to be banned. Local organic produce is the worst thing. Giant factory farms and bugs created in warehouses is what you're gonna eat. I'm not kidding. We're gonna be getting all that. He doesn't get to any of this.

Oh, no. No. I don't know what he's talking about with Christians being arrested for silent praying. He said he's gonna get into it later and he doesn't. Yeah, that seems weird. You would have to explain exactly what it was that somebody saw that was like, Oh, you're silently praying, gotcha? Yeah. And he hasn't read these articles about food stuff.

The Guardian article isn't about how big factory farms with robot bugs are better for the earth than local organic produce. It's an editorial about how there's a growing consensus that eating locally grown stuff isn't always the best way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The prevailing wisdom previously had been that locally sourced stuff was better because it had to travel a shorter distance, unless it cut out emissions during the transportation phase. However, more research has shown that the transportation of these goods contributes significantly less to the emissions calculation than the factor of how the produce itself has grown. Locally grown stuff in eco-conscious farms is obviously going to be the ideal since you

limit the emissions in production and transportation. However, if you have to choose one variable, it might be best to focus on the production instead of the transport. Better produced goods from far away may be better for the earth than poorly produced local ones. And that's against a lot of the ethos of the farm to table kind of movements that had gone on that really emphasized the cutting out the transportation is paramount. And so that's why this is an interesting

conversation. The article is clear that there are benefits to supporting local farms, but that it's easy to fall for the trap of thinking that just because something's local, it's automatically better, ecologically than it is. Nothing about robot bugs or, you know, factory shit being better. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I do see why you would add robot bugs to that story. I mean, you're just making shit up.

Yeah, otherwise, it's kind of a very dry conversation about what is the most effective way to limit emissions based on your food. And I actually throw robot bugs in. Well, here's the thing, I brought up the robot bugs. He just said the bugs that were created in a lab. So they could be organically, they could be organic bugs. Bio bugs.

Bio bugs. Bio bugs. Yeah. I put the robots into it, I'm sorry. I think that better. No, well, I mean, once you get, once you say that they're giant robots outside of Zuck's house, now robots are in play for every conversation.

Well, he talks about, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh being just as bad as conventionally far meat is three years old. This is just in terms of greenhouse gas emission. And that is something that isn't really that much of a huge revelation. Right, right. Yeah, we know that. There's still other benefits from organic meat production related to things like decreases and runoff pollution. The reality is that you're never going to be able

to fully reduce the greenhouse gas emissions from livestock production since it comes from the methane that animals produce and they're manure. This isn't breaking news and it's just Alex not, like ever really understanding the conversation. And so like weird things can be brought up as like bomb shells, but they're not. They're just realities of conversations

he's not up for those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you don't recognize like just cows produce emissions, existence wise, and that are farming tons of them contributes to emissions. If you don't even recognize that, the conversation has to be absurd to you, right? You're like, animals don't make smoke.

Duh. And you know, you ideally would love for organic animal production to really limit some of the emissions. Sure. It turns out that a lot of the benefits that you get in terms of greenhouse gas emission are undone by the ways that you need to feed the animals. Right. So it's kind of a one step forward, one step back.

Right, kind of thing. And that's unfortunate. But the alternative is really people should transition to a more plant-based diet. Yeah, probably. And that would help with that factor. But if you're going to eat meat, there's not much there that you can really do.

It's going to be tough. So we get to the Jamie Foxe clip. Sure. And Dr. McCullough's intro. And we get an interesting revelation about DeMar Hamlin. All done. Second. Thank you again so much for supporting.

Thank you so much. I know a lot of you guys are saying, what's going on here? What's going on there? What's some of the stories? Love you. All right, so what's some of the stories. Love y'all. Alright, so he just put that out yesterday thanking people for trying to investigate what's happening with him. And that what he was doing. The repeater McCullough ended up talking to Jamie Foxx who was concerned about the shots previously. And we've got a photo here of them meeting.

And now he's trying to cover up. He had a photo here of them meeting and now he's trying to cover up he had a stroke they try to cover it was going on but investigators journals have talked to the hospital and the family and others say no indeed Jamie believes it's shot Dr. McCullough obviously be talking to Jamie here very very soon again but this is a big deal unlike Delmar Hamlin who kept quiet about the shot what happened with him and he had to be resuscitated he did die He was brought back to life We can get you to do Jimmy Fox to go public with this. He is gonna really save a lot of lives for future people

So yeah, Hamlin died and was brought back to life. There we go. We can do that now. I guess I guess that's how it works We can resurrect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to definition on died We can resurrect. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd like to definition on diet, Alex. I think it does. Because it might have slightly different definitions. I mean, if you're a doctor.

Yeah. Now, here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say about this. All right. When I, if I were to say to you, Dan, hey, I was talking to this person the other day, you know, and then we'd talked about this. You would probably believe me

Right, and I wouldn't feel the need to come up with evidence in advance of you Talking to me sure that would be absurd you would have to be an already very untrustworthy person for you to be like Oh, I was talking to Jamie's Jamie Foxx No, no, I have a picture. You you already know that people don't believe you. Yeah people might be suspicious. Yeah. Yeah. Also speaking of suspicious a lot of cuts in that very short Reclined. A lot of edits. What the hell? You know, you got to make it sound right. He doesn't. He doesn't say what Alex is. It doesn't even appear to say what Alex is claiming it says. And there's so many edits that like you're clearly trying to make it fit as best you can and it's not working. This is sad. It's so much like somebody is like, okay, well, let's cut out a little bit more.

That doesn't really work. I'll cut out some more. I don't see if that, let's just, okay, can you get him to say thank you? Just thank you Uh-huh, and then we'll say he was thinking the anti-vaxxers. Okay. Yeah, that's all we need yeah This is this is a smoking gun. He's thank you is about to expose the Vax man knew it same the whole time So Peter McCullough comes on and here is where I said fuck you Jamie Foxx is a really live vulgarity of knowing what you see Foxx is a really life-wool guy to folks at knowing what you see on TV is and then the movies what you get in person

You also you know grew up in the town next to ragga rub. I don't folks actually want to school with him States a great guy you've got a chance to know him I guess he reached out to you and you educated him on shots. What's the intel we've got on this? Yeah, I don't have direct knowledge of what happened to Fox, but I know how we would report it. AJ Benz said that, you know, people close to the situation that he was forced to take one in order to be on scene to shoot his most recent movie in Atlanta, and then he collapsed with a stroke.

As Benz reports it, that he had at least temporary paralysis and cortical blindness. This is AJ Benza again. Yeah. AJ Benza said this shit on Dr. Drew's show. And so now you have Dr. McCullough coming on and the only thing information that he has is the shit that AJ Benza said. So why are you even doing this interview? Yeah. Because you have a picture of yourself with Jamie Foxx. I believe that is exactly where he's it. Go fuck yourself. He has a picture of yourself with Jamie Foxx. I believe that is the exact reason. Go fuck yourself, like all of them. He has a picture of himself with Jamie Foxx. You should not have accepted this booking.

So he has the authority to speak. That might as well have a chiron underneath Jamie Foxx expert. Yeah. His picture. His picture of him with Jamie Foxx. So yeah, not gonna listen to the rest of this. I mean, yeah, this interview is a zero.

That is such a moment. It depends, it's like. It's something and it gives me license to talk shit. I don't have any direct knowledge click the end The end of counter-end of conversation pointless interview. Yeah, we're done here Apologies for wasting everybody's time waste of time So Alex has another guest. He's a fucking waste of time. It's that pastor Rodney Howard Brown Oh, God. You talked about him a little bit in the past and here's Alex's intro for him. really smart political mining group in south africa to understand something new and order takes over and destroy society's retirement all with him uh...

today but he issued uh... news report each is a daily with warning to rondis sanis that i totally agree with here's part of that report so uh... governor governor uh... his uh... warning to rondis antis, uh, hey, man, don't do it.

Don't run for president. They're trying to lure you out of Florida. I like it. I like it. We're trying to, we're trying to sneak him out of Florida so we can arrest him for all of the charges and the kidnapping that he's done. You're not going to win for president.

They're trying to lure you out of your wonderful position here in Florida. I, I, I, I, I, I, I actually think it would be smart for him not to leave the state of Florida. I think it'll be smart for him to stay in the position he has. I mean, like being the governor of Florida is probably a reasonably safe position for him in terms of reelection. Sure. Like the, the, there need to be a pretty decent candidate to unseat him at this point, based on the incumbency and, you know, and what have you.

He's not going to probably have a whole lot of success, especially if Trump is running in the GOP primary. And you're candidate Nikki Haley. No, I mean, I know, it's all, I just, nobody knows what's going to happen until, I mean, you know, like, I understand that. But he's not a fighter. Trump, I know, I know, we both know that he knows is going to happen until I mean, you know, like, I understand that. But he's not a fighter. Trump, I know.

I know we both know that he's if he gets a debate. And dirty plays well in those, in that, that GOP primary. So I don't think he has the toolkit. So Rodney Howard Brown's advice to him to like cool it. I think might be a good, good call. Ah, yeah. I mean, it's probably smart. I'm interested to know what he knows because he was one of the lawyers at

Getmo Disangest was Was he? Yes Yeah, he's he's one of the interesting wrinkle. I didn't realize that. That's what I'm saying if he's if he starts going I think I'd be more interested to find out exactly what it was that he did Sure, because there's a lot of mysteries around it, but I'll tell you what, people are making use of good guys. I would imagine that if that's the case,

he's not gonna be a whistleblower. No. No, no, no, no. And that seems like something that Trump could attack him over and it'd be screwed. You know, almost. Almost like if you were somebody that had that in your pass. Not good.

Hey, you'd say what you want about the vaccine. So I was exactly. Whoops. So anyway, Rodney Howard Brown, not a big fan of civic engagement. Anyway, Alex, it's like the whole plan is going totally nuts since we lost all. Yeah, you know, one of the things that I'm concerned about this is whole thing I've been dining Trump especially with people trying to get everybody to protest and stuff. Now I told our church we are not protesting. I'll tell you what we will be doing. We have massive phone campaigns that will launch letters emails and we will phone. What they want to do is to get everybody protesting. Asch effect, get riots in the streets so they can blame conservatives,

which is like a dumb move. Whoever are the voices saying, we all need to take to the streets and protest. That's just playing right into their hands. So that's not the way to go. Yeah, I don't do it. You got it. So the folks shouldn't protest because they'll

riot and then people will blame them for rioting. Right. All right. See, what they are going to do is they're going to do things that make conservatives want to go out and riot and then conservatives will go out and riot and then they'll blame conservatives for rioting. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I don't know how this is anybody's fault other than their own. Well, I don't know who's tricking anybody into doing anything. It's like Trump wants people to come and protest.

Yeah, there's, it's hard to think of a trick here. Yeah, there is. I'm struggling to find a tricky situation going on. No, this seems very straightforward. Yeah. But we have the same definitions for words. But you have to go ahead and not protest, though. That's fine. Yeah, I'm fine.

Well, that's stay home. Yeah, stay home. So anyway, Rodney Howard Brown's a really boring guest, but he does say one thing that caught my attention. Obviously, I have a mind views on this, but do you remember that second debate when Trump went to the medical facility in Ohio and he was abating Biden. Remember that one?

Yes. And Trump looked totally confused. Now I am convinced. I don't have proof that they were actually putting a ray on him to totally scramble him because interesting. Interesting. When I was watching him, I was going, who is that? That's not 45.

That's not 45. He was slow in his reaction. He could even put a sentence together and I was watching him and I don't know. They're doing something to him. Yeah, they hit him with a laser. They hit him with a dumb beam. I thought Occam's razor was fairly sharp, but I think maybe we just need to even more simplify it to to where it's like if somebody looks like they're an idiot

They're probably an idiot, you know, no, no, no, there's no lasers. There's no lasers There's no like oh there must have been a secret or they were playing dumb or no, no, no, no, no He's an idiot. No, it was a grand plan to play them No, it was a grand plan to play them while being hit by a laser not a grand plan He's just an idiot you got tricked. That's fine. We're fine with that. No This isn't the guy I imagined it to be it's a laser I'm just saying that maybe if you're somebody who has in the past multiple times told stories about the King from Africa sending you money and then you get then you're like oh oh, it's probably a laser. Maybe it's the Africa thing again

Also if this flies Alex should really get in the business of like in court being like someone who moved the laser Yeah, I didn't defame anybody. What kind of laser does he get into it? Like a heat laser are we going with are we going with a laser pointer? Is it just a suspicion that he has? Cool, man. All right. Sorry, I fuck this dude. Yep. We have another guest though. Okay. And it's a guy who works for Tim Poole named Shane Cashman. Great. Alright. I heard that a journalist was in Channel 1 in the interview. I mean, you work for Tim Cash and I looked up like, oh, yeah, Shane Cashman, I've done some great podcasts with him.

I think the biggest podcast, the Culture War, that Tim Pills done is our episode together. I'm like, wow, I'd love to have him as a guest, actually. So we bumped a guest today to get him in here. So Shane Cashman, Syria, wants to cover the waterfront. He's kind of doubling here so we can do an interview to produce articles. He's writing for Tim Cash.com. He's at Shane Cashman on Twitter.

So Shane, we've got the rest of the hour here to cover so many wild sums. You got three pages of notes there. Hey, Shane, yeah, you can interview me, but I'm going to double dip. Yeah, I mean, we're going to kill some fucking time on my show. I'm going to bump whatever other guest because I think I want to take the time off air to do anything else.

That's amazing. That looks like work. That is amazing. Yeah, he does this a bit though. He cuts ads on his shows. I know, but that's just sweet. That's really good stuff. Good work if you can get it.

Yeah, yeah. So it is fair that Alex's episode of Tim Pools dumb culture war show has the most views on YouTube. But considering the guest selection he has, that is not surprising. Alex has about 400,000 views that video, which isn't nothing, but it's a whole lot lower than Tim's other shows do. After Alex was on, some of Tim's other guests have been Carrie Lake, Lauren Southern, and

Mark Pellegrino, the guy who played Jacob on Lost, and then went hardcore libertarian. What are you gonna do? Fun fact, Pellegrino also played the villain Jacob Seed in Far Cry 5, because this dude loves playing cult figures named Jacob. You know it's fun. I think he needs to go back to the island. Yeah. No, he doesn't. Jacob's storyline a little...

It's a little much. That's where it gets into the mythology. Okay. Him and his brother, the smoke monster. Oh, no. Oh, boy. The man in black. Okay.

Smoke monster. All right. Jacob, Island protector, making people drink from glasses. No, no. What? What? That's how you become the protector of the island. Oh, you got it.

That's a ritual way to drink from a cup. And then he says, you're like me now. Oh, boy. Yeesh. That's a great ritual. Oh, real? So frustrating to think about last. I have no idea who Shane Cashman is in a deep sense, but I will say that I have a standing policy that I do not shake from.

I don't fully believe in guilt by association and as much as you shouldn't be judged too harshly for the actions of people you associate with, but if you agree to work at Tim Poole's operation, you have no integrity. I can make exceptions for behind-the-scenes technical type with, but if you agree to work at Tim Poole's operation, you have no integrity. I can make exceptions for behind-the-scenes technical type employees, but if you're creating content for him, you know what you're doing, and I'm not going to take you seriously. You have made your bed. You lost your privileges. Yeah, for sure.

If you make a conscious decision to see what's going on over there. And like, oh yeah, I think it's really fun that his co-host is, one of them is Lucardowski, and the other one is somebody who's even more embarrassing. Right. I don't think you, I think you'd just be like, I'm gonna go somewhere else. I got you, Starstruck.

Oh, I will do anything to work for you, Mr. Poole. I think it's someplace you can get hired. And maybe I was short cut to thinking that you're doing something pretty big, probably. So anyway, also, Shinn Cashman also has some ideas about yay. Oh, what? It's crazy to be here today, which happens to be the birthday

of the artist formerly known as Kanye West. So happy birthday to you. And we share a connection with you because I was with him right after he was your last. Did you hear him? The interview in Ron Atrey did that. Yeah, the day the day or two after I was in LA. And I was asking you what he really was doing. You say it was Andy Kaufman? I think he's being Andy Kaufman. I think he's a bit performance. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff he believes that he's saying, but I think he truly is a performance artist and one of the best ones alive. Well, I mean, he performs in as much as he was like a musician, but this is not Andy

Kaufman. This isn't satire. I mean, again, I understand that sometimes whenever it looks like that, it can be performance art, but for the vast majority of time, that's just somebody being an asshole. Yeah, someone struggling. the vast majority of time, that's just somebody being an asshole. Yeah, someone struggling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a regular occurrence. Yeah, so Gideon. And he coughed in his famous because there was only one Gideon cough, not like a regular P-pillar assholes all the time.

Yeah. And when he was doing some of the most famous performance art that he did, he did it within the WWF. Exactly, you know, like- In place where in fakeness is supposed to be. Yes, K He did it within the WWF. Exactly. You know, like, the place where in fakeness is supposed to be. Yes. K-FAME is the whole thing.

The idea. He, he entered into that and did some, and I understand you did other performance art, but you know, it's certainly not to that level. No, no. Where he's like, you know, wearing his neck brace onto like late night programs. Yeah.

Yeah, that was amazing. So he Might be running for president. Okay, and so is Trump share and so we get into a little section where it's clear that Cashman is just interviewing Alex on Alex's show so we get the sense of what Alex thinks about Trump in 2023. Okay. I So are you into Trump running like how are you with Trump these days? Well, I'm not a pragmatist. I'm a realist and so I Don't make my decisions for a pragmatic perspective. I'm very ideological and really believe in what I want But I'm a realist in that If I've got you know Joe Biden or Gavin Newsome

Yeah, and they and they stole it from Trump at the beginning. So it's like the public actually are elected. Even I don't like Trump at certain levels. The people elected him, so I'm going to respect that. And I do like Trump at a lot of levels. I just don't want to be chumped at the same time, and he's still running around saying the vaccine's good. He came up and said, oh, we're going to invest you to cause autism. Well, I mean, okay, you're going to put a bandaid on the gunshot.

Well, he just gave us, so that's a big deal. But getting rid of Roe V Wade, securing the border, standing up in China, shipping mean, okay, you put a bandaid on the gun shot. Well, you just gave us, so that's a big deal, but getting rid of Roe v Wade, secure in the border, standing up in China, shipping jobs, maybe his energy independent. I mean, you pull us out of the UN, WHO, I mean, he did. Hey, we're having a call. There's so many peace deals, peace deals in North Korea. So many good things, but you could have

the greatest dinner set there, and then the waiter climbs up on the table and takes a dump everywhere It kind of still ruins the meal. It ruins the whole. So I'm trying to like ignore all the crap that Trump's spewed all over the table and kind of bite around it Yeah, but it really does have a bad smell. I know whereas Gavin Newsom is a giant pool of dead babies and rotting flesh So I'm gonna like well, I better just eat around this. I agree I agree there was so much I love about Trump also he'd had right to try which I thought was interesting. He passed that but uh the end of the His pardoning the pardons were we're tough. You know as much as I like Lil Wayne So yeah, don't don't eat that Don't just go without a meal. Don't skip skip dinner. That's fine. I

Was a whole collection of nonsense that's just meant to allow Alex to play the fence and uh, you want to try and retain his pro-Trump audience while giving some appearance of pushback to retain the folks who have soured on him entirely. This is really dumb. Based on Alex's collars, lately they don't seem to like Trump at all and the vaccine shit is insurmountable for them. So Alex's best shot right now is to cut bait. He seems to have forgotten that he doesn't need to support a candidate, and lesser of two evils arguments

are embarrassing for someone with his belief set to make. He can mock the idea of people voting blue no matter who, but if Alex insists on caring about electoral politics, he's gonna vote red every time because the other guy works for the literal devil. It's fucking ridiculous. The only thing I find interesting here is that Alex saying at the beginning, I'm not a pragmatist, I'm a realist. This is really confusing as a way to describe oneself, and I have to say that neither of these terms come anywhere close to fitting what Alex is.

But it gets even weirder when he says that he's idealistic, but if the alternative is Biden or Newsom, then Trump looks pretty great. That's actually far closer to being a pragmatic perspective than a realist one. Alex isn't speaking about these terms in any academic sense, so what this boils down to is that realism dictates that the world is what it is, and you should use that to guide your beliefs. Realism has no place for idealism, because idealism is about wanting to change reality. Idealism and realism work against each other.

Conversely, one can be idealistic and pragmatic at the same time. You can hold lofty ideals, but also recognize that in order to make changes in the world as it exists, you need to deal with the world as it really is, not as you want it to be. If anything, what Alex should be saying is that he's a rigid ideologue who's willing to play lesser of two evils games when there's a pragmatic reason to, like for instance, it's really profitable to do that. What follows is Alex listing off a cavalcade of his ideological beliefs, which are not in any way based on realism.

Trump is actually the president because the people elected him and Alex is going to respect the will of the people. The COVID vaccine is killing people, the vaccines cause autism. All that is reflective of Alex's idealism, which he's projected onto Trump, and the only reason he has any need to play any of the games that he's playing now is because Trump is not and never was, the fulfillment of Alex's ideological fantasies. But Alex said that he was, because he wanted to sell him to his audience based on their idealism.

And now, he's in a little bit of a bind, which is why he needs to retreat to this embarrassing land of lesser of two evils. He didn't have to do that in past elections because his idealism guided him until he pragmatically realized that there was a shitload of money to be made in doing things this way. And also, just to be clear, you can't really have a pragmatic view of the world and also believe that your enemies work for the devil. Yeah, it just doesn't work. Yeah. There's no way to be pragmatic about that. Demons. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it should be a lot harder and I know this, this seems silly to say, but it should be a lot harder to get over the president murdering like 12 million people. You know, like you believe that the vaccine

is what killed everybody and he did it. But that's just a little dump on the table, you know? But, oh boy, I just feel like he, but he did it at that on purpose, on purpose, according to Alex. Or because he was too dumb. And either way, either way, right? That should disqualify you as the leader of the free world.

Certainly, it's either evil incarnate in an act or it's a level of irresponsibility and incompetence that you just can't be trusted with any level of power. No, no, no, no. But no, it's just a little dump on the table. No, see, that seems so crazy to me. You can't live in this reality and still be pro- I just feel like you can't. He shouldn't be. And that's the problem. He's

trying to not be, but also be. Yeah. And it's just, it's a, it's a dump game. Because he knows that the vaccine didn't really kill everybody. And he knows that probably none of the candidates that are appearing on the right has has any chance if Trump is running. Right. There's just no way. He's got star power, he's a dick. Yeah. He's going to embarrass the shit out of everybody else.

Yeah. Like he did last time. Yeah, I feel like they're really reaping the whole like, remember when we made politics just yelling at each other or thing? And now they're finding out like, oh no, we're not as good at it as we thought we were. Right, yeah. That guy that we built up is.

Oops. Oops. But RFK is also running. Oh boy. So what does Alex think about that? That is a good question. What do you think about RFK? How are we with him these days?

Oh wait, no, it's totally for real. I mean, I think he's wrong on some issues, but now he's pro-gunned, now he wants to control the board and now he says, carpet, that's has his or scam the system hates him trying to ignore him and they're in panic mode over right now because he's in a dead heat even even the Washington Post had a headline about that here's the hill our uptake juniors rising profile sparks Democrat jitters there was a similar headline to Washington Post where like he's the leader I mean what do you mean

he's smart he's a candidate he's a populist he's I mean he's a leader. I mean, what do they mean? He's smart. He's a Kennedy. He's a populist. He's I mean, he understands the what the CIA has done more than his father and his uncle. So the article that Alex is referencing in the hill is covering CNN poll that has Biden supported 60% an RFK at 20. Yeah, this is not a dead heat and Kennedy's not the leader. Yeah. There are op-eds that make the point that it would be unwise to consider his Candacee dead on arrival, but Alex is completely full of shit about the numbers a realist wouldn't act like this That's the mark of a dishonest idea log for sure. I I appreciate the I like I like the idea of like oh Well, he suddenly started saying the things that I like so of course I like him. Yeah, like not at of like, oh, well, he suddenly started saying the things that I like. So of course I like him.

Like, nope. Not at all, like Trump. No, no, like, well, oh, now he's saying that guns are good. Not a single instance of being like, well, why is he saying that? Is he saying that just to be because he's been educated? Is he saying it just because that's what we want to hear? Is anybody not, is that not entering into his mind?

I would guess that R.F. are if case not necessarily an idiot. And he probably recognizes that if he's running for president, a large amount of support that he's going to be able to gather is going to be from the right. Yeah. And so maybe he should warm up to some of the things that are incredibly important for them in in in some ways. It feels almost like he's making a pragmatic political decision, right?

Interesting. As opposed to one based in perhaps idealism. Yeah. He doesn't have a zealotry around guns as much as he has bad vaccines. And he's passed that critical litmus test for the right. Yeah. So, yep. Anyway, globalists, they screwed up.

Again? Yeah. The COVID thing was a real big mistake I think it's the COVID power grab that blow up in their face. I mean, I think they still had a shot at this but the COVID It's just he just and people aren't forgetting about it. They're there there more and more they're understanding the abuse we just went through at that fire Backing a lot of people bought into it. Trust me. I was in New York. Oh, no, no, it's exactly. I mean, it worked for a minute. Yeah, oh, sure. It's like a woman that's got a husband who breaks her jaw. She kind of buys into it the first few weeks, but later she's like, you know, he broke my jaw.

Some of those people will never forget here that the media put in their hearts from COVID, from lockdowns. I remember being on a trail in a bare mountain, New York, and people have to skip, they were almost about to jump off the cliff, doing that and walk by me on a path because i didn't have a man but i have people yelling at me and i got a guy and i was sick of him and his dog bites me in the arm because i was wearing a mask and he called the police

i'm sorry i'm punched dog in the head i'll be right back stay with us another uh... gleeful story what he does named is this dude have against dogs he was really happy to tell a story about punching a dog. I am blown away by this. Yeah.

Oh my God. I just why? Why? Why? You know, it is that cruelty to animals thing with psychopaths. So, you know, there's definitely a little bit of like, I know what you did. Why is it weird that the guy called the police who punched his dog?

You punched his dog. Oh my God. Also, I mean, like, police, you punched his dog. You punched his dog. Oh my God. Also, I mean, like, sure, you can be mad about fear and stuff surrounding COVID and what have you. But, you know, it's easy to lose track of how many people were dying at the beginning. You know, things have calmed down a bit.

You know, obviously we're not entirely out of the woods of COVID. It's not, you know, maybe we're not entirely out of the woods of COVID. It's not, you know, that maybe it's not the public health emergency it was before, but it is very time makes you forget how severe things were in the beginning of 2020. Yeah. There's a nightmare. Yeah. And so some of that fear was very warranted. Oh, very much. I don't think that was the globalist's doing it to anyone? No, it was mainly watching people's loved ones go away.

That's usually what does it? And Alex likes to forget that he played into a lot of that before he decided it was more profitable to go the other direction. Totally. So Shane should ask that question for this cool article shane is it over for humanity is a good question oh it's time to pray so shames a little bit worried that uh... you know the government used to do assassinations and then they went to character

assassinations glory right but he's worried they're going to go back to it because character assassinations are working now okay and then Alex is a fun story about a relative who's assassination government as far as I'm concerned used to operate in blood and it used to be assassinations like rfk knows all about that then they moved into character assassinations which I believe you know a lot about right and the character assassinations happen to people in the media, it happened to people just you and me, right? So what I'm scared of is now they're going to move back to the previous plan of the violence. Well, I agree on the old days, it was all about how many people could be put on the ground to kill people, right?

And Macden, there was Russians and all mafia's and the military, you know, was going to run killing people in the US. People don't know that. They were naive. The death warrants were signed every hour. But it didn't work. The intimidation murdered and worked. So it all went from human intel to digital starting in the 90s. The the the the cleanse kind of continued the killing some themselves. We're about the mid 90s. The you know, killing too hard. People that do the killing get blackmailed. The guys that do the

killing figure out they get killed. The biggest problem is the guys they send to do the killing and they're gonna get killed, right? This all moves. They just talk about moves. Stop it. I mean, he got a few years ago, but he got a double. He got a double. The Army's Army officer was he was just sifter,

like the Jason Bourne guy and then they give the orders and he go kill people. Here in the US, it was mainly Mopias and stuff, but then people say you never got a CIA, that's not true, he got out of it at a certain point. Because the stuff was criminal and people say you never got a CIA that's not true. He got out of it at a certain point, because the stuff was criminal. And he said, I'm not doing that. I go, good, you pass the test.

You're like, yeah, you pass the test. I'm not doing that. You really want me to do that. Now you're playing, oh, you pass the test, you're a good guy. Because what they, that's how they test these units. And it's like, okay, now wipe out the entire family and say he killed the kids. No, I'm not doing that that it goes to the Tony Montana moment Which is fictional but you know bases composite her stories were you say I told you know women no kids

There's kids in the car. I'm gonna blow them up. I mean Tony Montana keeps the soul at that point right my women No kids no people it sounds crazy a lot of people who aren't as plugged in as we might be two movies Yeah, it does sound crazy to people who do not base their entire life on movies. Yeah, it's funny that you're like, this is a shit as movies and then it gets it to out to the Tony Muchau. It's exactly, you know, it's crazy,

it's exactly like a movie. And I'm gonna tell you which movie that it's exactly like. Now, that's his uncle who we just heard him tell a story recently about being in Iran Contra and then he got out because it was kids that were being trafficked. These, these family members have lived such storied lives. Crazy. They're in, they're in Iran Contra and get out and save their soul. Save their souls because they didn't want to be trafficking kids. And then also in,

then later, I guess, or they'd have to be later or maybe subsequently at the same time, carrying out assassination hits within the United States, but then save their soul because they didn't want to kill women and children. Yeah. This is all bullshit. Yeah. It's very silly. Yes.

Very, very silly. Alex is a child telling these story, these hero stories about his relatives. It is. That aren't true and just movies. It's fascinating to hear these two people talk as though they're so authoritatively. Yeah. You know, like, and you're... Oh, yeah, let me tell you how the world works.

You're a naive dumb dumb who's not plugged into things if you don't think movies are real. Yeah, exactly. Like, you're literally telling me about movies. You are telling me about movies. You know you're telling me about movies because you haven't read a book in 20 years. You've only watched movies.

Well, maybe a few books that are just like the novelization of movies. Yeah, Jurassic Park, the novel. Yeah, and Alex is read like childhood. And not the original novel by Criton, the novelization of the movie. Which might be better. Probably.

So Cashman believes that abortion is human sacrifice. And then Alex gets into talking a little bit about the abortions he's had and how he was haunted by the babies. And also, this telling of the story is very different than we've heard before. We're still doing human sacrifice. Abortion is sacrifice, I believe, the turning kids into the trans movement is a form of human sacrifice. Abortion is sacrifice, I believe, the turning kids into the trans movement is a form of human sacrifice. And it's also, it reminds me of what went on in the cultural evolution, right in China, where they're basically you erase the history, you destroy the kids,

and you get to rebuild the future, a dark, disgusting, depraved future. You're the one being good. They just want to put God in. I think we're weak because we won't target kids. Right. No, no, they're weak. They'll do it. right no no there we go do it right because once you go over that cliff I mean take Latin America 20 years ago nobody would target kids 30 years ago and then suddenly one cartel leader it was based off west what do you know you ask about a gigantic target everybody and then it was just a and now MS 13 routine we just kills babies why not it's not i mean right for the parents blouse toddlers heads off like well

what i would it's so dark and and and and and the bad mojo of that that is no people what god does you kill babies i mean it's it's not you're done your your soul is done and it will be what we're experiencing on top of all that is this this crazy trick that they played on people the self-sacrifice right so we're seeing people just they're offering themselves up to this uh... this crazy trick that they played on people to self-sacrifice. Right. So we're seeing people just, they're offering themselves up to this demonic force.

Well, when you do that, is this one thing you do in abortion not know what you did? Well, on the left, it goes, I know I killed that little bastard, he's in the back dead. I love killing babies, but when you love it, you're done, you're fried, and you still have dead eyes after that. Oh, yeah. You are literally becoming a slave of Satan. Satan needs you to commit a crime like that because God will remove the spirit. And once that transmissions not on you, you're now perfect to be overweight. There's a trend on TikTok. I think it's on TikTok,

where there's a bunch of young women talking about how they're haunted by the fetuses they aborted. And they have that like, I was haunted. I mean, I really believe it was a lot of tissue. I would try to get women pregnant, But I was extremely fertile. I got four children now But I was like 18 I could look and want to get a pregnant and And and these girls would look using something later. I got an abortion and you know, I'll give me three hundred bucks Right, but my father and my dad 1518 found the abortion middle and just very coldly said you're not my son you quit killing My grandchildren, so I want you to get out of here by Saturday. It was like a Thursday because you got two days And just very coldly said you're not my son you quit killing my grandchildren

I want you to get out of here by Saturday was like a Thursday because you got two days you get out of the house and I'm so ashamed of you and you know and the weird thing I was it over the next six months or to have a nightmare is being haunted about it And then I that's when I had that kind of wake up coming Jesus moment again, but it's definitely real I think a lot more people need to have that moment right now. No Wow, so a little different little different it's definitely real. I think a lot more people need to have that moment right now. Nah. Wow. So a little different, a little different telling of the story.

I mean, certainly he's downplaying some aspects of it. Definitely leaving out the part where he coerced some of these women and having a portion. It didn't seem to leave out that part. Definitely adding details to his dad. Sure. Part of the story, I believe the last time he told the story, his dad was aware of it and kept paying for them.

And then eventually it had had enough. And he said, you have to stop killing my grandkids. He had paid for too many abortions. Right. Not. Yeah. He found the bills surreptitiously. Yeah.

Yeah, not just. This is wild. It really makes you wonder how much of any of this is true. I don'tiously. Yeah, not just. This is wild. It really makes you wonder how much of any of this is true. I don't, I mean, not like that. Yeah. Well, I mean, I do think he probably was involved in some portions and he feels terrible about it. Sure.

Probably those nightmares are, you know, not necessarily a haunting, but a reflection of the unprocessed guilt and shame that he feels around this, which continues to this day. Or, or conversely, at all times around him, he has a little ring of aborted fetuses, holding hands dancing around singing.

You are about around. I wouldn't doubt that he sees that. I could definitely see that. Yeah, I could definitely see that. So not only is Ye a performance artist on the level of Andy Kaufman. Apparently, Cashman believes that he's one of the most important voices today. But before I get into the next question, we can shift to something else. I figured since I'm here, I should address Elon Musk and I think you have a different take on this

when it's fine. No, I think the jury's out on it. No, no, it's not even about that. I just still just think Elon needs to unvan Alex Jones and yay, two of the most important voices in the world today. And I know I've heard you say he probably shouldn't. And what was the reason behind that? Why did you think that? They put so much evil energy onto me. Like I'm the devil with the dumb dumb ass that he's barely hanging on.

They've taken 59% of the revenue away. He may not win this fight. But if he unbans me, he's basically unbanned almost everybody else. If he unbans me, I'm kind of like the token waxing that has to sacrifice. I don't agree with it, but I know why he's doing it. I'm going to leave it at that. I'm not going to say I'm met and talk to you on my lawyers or anything, but I mean believe me there's a lot inside baseball here I hope so because I think Twitter needs you now more than ever. Yeah. Yeah Alex is like he's basically a martyr He's he's kind of like the Jesus for right right wingers on Twitter He's been sacrificed so that they all may be on let back in a sense if

You were to tell me that Alex Jones being let back on Twitter would kill Twitter, then yes, I agree. Twitter needs Alex right now. Somebody needs to put it out of its misery. I think at this point with the, where Twitter has gone, the deterioration of some of it, and what have you, I don't know if it would make that big of a difference if Alex was on it quite frankly.

I feel the same way. But this storyline that he's telling himself about why Elon doesn't actually hate him is pretty funny. It's wild. Yeah. He can't just be like, well, Elon hates me because of the Sandy Hook stuff. He can't do it.

He can't say that personally he hates me because of the Sandy Hook stuff. Tactically, he can't do it. He can't say that. No, personally, he hates me because of the Sandy Hooks that tactically, he knows that it would be too much. And it would ruin the larger plan that he had. What are you fucking talking about? This is one of the great emperor has no clothes episodes that we've done. And so far is like, so there are so many explanations for why the emperor has no clothes. And nobody here is willing to just be like, oh, because he's naked. It's very simple. It's very simple. And was any kind of reporter at all?

None of these answers would fly. Yeah, that's not unacceptable to answer like that. How dare you? How dare you? I'm going to ask a follow-up question. Oh, we don't do that here. Also it turns out that maybe Alex thinks these things because he's benefiting and no one really cares that he's

actually on Twitter. Yeah. Well, you know, I don't want to get you on in more trouble. But since he took over, if you look to Twitter, I mean, Alex Jones is not paying on Twitter. And he hears the thing. I really want him to succeed.

Yeah, whether he's being a double face or triple cross or whatever it is. Right now, he's going the right direction. But I mean, what I can't help until the truth truth and I really shouldn't mean me saying all this. I say, look, we get like 10 million views a day on Twitter now. Right. I mean, we were banned on there or we're not banned. I'm not that good at tweeting. So the great part is they banned Tucker Carlson because they are arrogant. That was real. And now they won him. They're telling him he even have free speech for suing him because you had 104 million views and like, you know, they're gonna have.

So that's, that's real. No, I mean, I mean, I mean, that's going on. But I see, I see the numbers. I see Alex Jones on Twitter. I think I just would like that symbolic gesture. But I understand he's already got, you know, his piece of the flames. And I don't, you know, I don't fully trust Elon for a lot of different reasons, but I just would like that symbolic gesture. But I understand he's already got, you know, his feet are the flames and I don't, you know, I don't fully trust Elon for a lot of different reasons. But I love what he does with Twitter. Well, let's just say this, people claim Trump was 3D chess. No, Trump's all instinct, all got,

which is 3D is it's your subconscious and unconscious. So Trump's a formidable source, but when he's wrong, it's really big at it. But when he's on, this is 3D chess. Oh yeah. So I can actually see his moves. And so I'm like, is this your moves? And he's like, yeah, that's my moves. Most of you can't see my moves.

But I'm like, but is your move a double cross later? I don't trust him. But I can see right now the moves he's making. What? I mean, it's devastating. It's devastating, the Neurologal. Why, my theory is that he secretly implanted the Neurolink in himself a long time ago. That's why he can play these wild games and think so. So differently than most people. Can't tell if that's a joke or

sincere thought that Cashman has that I am terrified that that is a sincere thought. Yeah. Also terrifying that Alex thinks he's sort of telepathically communicating with Musk about his secret moves. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I want to say one thing really quick. When you're talking about 3D chess, the on a past episode, it came to my attention that chess is 2D. In terms of the game, you're playing on two dimensions. There's like, right, right.

The reason that I said it was 3D chess is because chess pieces have height. Yes. So like 2D chess is like that. I feel like it's when you're playing on a screen. And then three DHS, the pieces are, they have a height. No, that's, that was the joke we were making. Is that the pieces where I didn't mean that as a joke? Oh, oh, yeah. No, because the game is just black and white, you know, I get that. Okay. I'm clarifying my position. You were making a joke. I was looking at it as a 3D object.

Right. No, that's what I'm saying. That's the joke is that it is three dimensional chess. It is three dimensional because you can see the pieces. It exists in three dimensions. You know, that's I might still not get the joke. Because the game itself is not three dimensional. Right, right. But if you add in you, oh, I watched people play chess

before then never mind. Don't worry about it. I gave it. It was subtle. I get people play chess before, then never mind. Don't worry about it. I gave it. It was subtle. I get it, but it might be too subtle. It was subtle. I get the point. It's subtle. Yeah.

Okay. I was just explaining my own statement, which I guess was wrong, but also like, hey, come on. You want to throw this out at you? All right. Include space time, and you're one dimension dimension short Because it also moves through time as well. Uh-huh. So I mean frankly everything is for dimensional right and what if yeah What are the other dimensions Alex's described them before really only as far as no there's like 10th 10th dimensional Well, we've had 10 dimensions, but I don't know what the 10 dimensions are I do I remember one of them was

Bad right or was I know now I only remember that the riffs that we made about it fondue one yeah exactly yeah I don't remember his actual beliefs are what if if you're playing chess against a demon yeah then it's like 4th 5th 6th dimension. Oh yeah if you're playing chess against the against death for your life, right? Yeah, is death a demon or just the embodiment of a Process mm-hmm, you know like the demonic process. That's deterioration. That's a good point. No, it's not Okay, but what is is that the moon landing was faked? That sounds sort of what yeah. Oh God. This is like a long circle What? Yeah.

Oh, God. This is like a BONG circle. This is nonsense. Remember when Annie Jacobson was on Rogan? Yeah, like four or five years ago. She said, and she had a source for the book she wrote many years ago, who claimed to have worked at Area 51, who said he saw surgically altered humans in a craft to look like aliens, just to freak out the source.

What is it? Exactly. This is all a giant. I opted to U.S. It's got an alien. You just said it. Moon landing's freeing side off the US has got negative and you just said it moon landing Free got the Soviets did we got aliens real service meanwhile there was a real Space program and a whole bunch of dead air force astronauts. We did go to them and then for the public They just had a stage to begin but the guys they sent and already been there you think shit to the moon

Oh, I know the guys that ran the operation don't know how to be out late right before he died I mean I mean I've been to his house make times he worked with me work with my dad right camp it up with my dad and me he was a good friend if you look at the famous black and white Michigan troll he ran the cameras he ran the radios he ran the up links worldwide he was ahead of the Michigan troll uh... uh... cops uh... you think we hadn't come, well, he he he he would always say was an Italian shirt you couldn't do it, but then he was told that his heart was you know a bunch of scents and heart attacks. He's a tough guy didn't really realize we

had it was last dinner. He wanted me to hotel restaurant. I actually got old sack mace at the Hilton and where I've seen the station before the pleasant sack mace got on around basement or everything. And we had a hand he said I'll probably be dead in a few months but I'm going to go ahead and tell you some of those things. And he had like presidential medals in his house and like, and then picture to him and, you know, Nixon and all this stuff.

Right, picture of him with Jeremy Fox. And he was, man, a whole secret space program, a whole duplicate because of the deaths we had in the numbers in the advanced technology. And it was basically our job to run an entirely fake operation. They were in space, but to just basically then re-enact what we did because we couldn't actually show you all the advanced technology we have. So, well, we saw the thing you'll be all seeing is, if you're concerned about the power of the Indian and Indian literature, on supply of off-grid electricity, one thing I'll note is that Alex seems to not care about commercial breaks on this episode. He is hip missing.

Doesn't matter. Constantly. All right. Also a little speedy, but also a little bongy. Little bit. Maybe Alex is a little speedy and cashmins a little bit. Everybody's having a little bit of a mix of bad ideas. Yeah, what's going on?

Wow. OK, so Alex had this buddy who was involved in the faking of the moon landing video. Hang, hang, hang with. they they had already done it. They've got a loan, but there have been so many deaths and all this stuff that you don't want to release video. The actual moon landing. They faked one terrible terrible conspiracy.

He seems desperate to impress cashman. It does seem that way. Yeah. I know all these guys. I do know where the right poor guy. My dad did bad. My uncle. We go right poor guy. Uh, no, my dad did bad, bad, bad, bad, my uncle, we go hunting with him. My uncle wasn't a saison.

In case you were wondering, uh, no matter what story you bring up or observation you have, I know somebody personally, yeah, making my connection to it far greater than yours. In case you were wondering, I am dominating you. Yeah. Alex also knows Buzz Aldrin. Buzz Aldrin was on the show and they were good friends. Yep. Oh, we got to get the buzz Aldrin. I mean, you got a lot of trouble for a ball. Really? I talked to Secretary. Yeah, I was kicking my gun. I know way. I said, NASA, flu people in here, and then in the office for a week.

We're going back on the thing anyways. I mean, you think, well, maybe that's a sigh up to you. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. That's the thing. Oh, hey, Buzz Aldrin, most of a side up to you. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, that's the thing. Oh, hey buzz all are mostly young We have dinner with you. That's the thing is my skepticism overflows so much I don't even know, you know how to find what's real anymore That's the problem in the end world. That's why God seems to me like the it is the only anchor in this reality that we have Yeah, that is a problem. What a big swing and miss. This is not skepticism. I So skeptical oppositional I'm so skeptical. Oppositional defiance. So skeptical. I don't even know how to know what's true anymore. So I'm just going to believe whatever it is I want. Well, here's the thing. I mean, it is just like knee jerk

defiance to things that you perceive as being the authority that you want to position yourself against. Sure. That's what he's describing and pretending it's skepticism. Sure. Meanwhile, like, obviously God and the idea of an immortal, all powerful being is the last refuge of like certainty. You can retreat to that certainty and just be like, that explains everything. And that's what he's describing. He's done.

None of this is even close to a skeptical process. You wouldn't listen to Alex say this bullshit if you had any kind of skepticism in here. You'd be like, the fuck are you talking about? Yep. This is ridiculous. This is a naivety mixed with oppositional defiance. It is something along those lines. And like authority meaning anybody who is competent,

not even like, I mean, I thought we had it. We, I thought we had a war on experts when I was growing up. My man, we have a war on just basic competence now. The idea of successfully completing your job means that you are a fucking fed. You must be. You must be. That's the only way.

The other thing too is just this insistence that the machine is anything that is what you disagree with or your political, it's not actually based in power and then you have to justify that by crafting like a web of explanations for how like, ah yes, anything that is slightly liberal is actually power because pop culture has the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Why didn't we go back to the moon? You could think about it or ask people. Ask Alex. That's a reason that we didn't go back to the moon. Alex knows. Yeah, exactly.

There's any number of possible things that you could look into, but instead you're like, well, I guess we'll never know why we didn't go back to the moon. Probably the libs. But we might know some things. And for that, we need to actually talk about what you're talking about.

This, not trusting experts. Right. We do need to trust experts. One of them is Logan Paul. Oh God, but yeah. I hear you know who Logan Paul is? Yeah. Logan Paul has supposedly some footage

of a UFO, people are saying it. Fuck yeah. He can share that, like he claims it to me. I mean, he says it's grainy, but it's really good footage. There's Logan and Jake. Yeah, I think it's Logan. I think, I'm not sure. And I've been on his's Logan and Jake. Yeah, I think it's Logan. I think. I think it's just, it's not been on his show.

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Well, Logan, I think you should release that immediately for transparency sake. Because I'm skeptical of all these videos, even when they're braining and whatnot. But yeah, the ladies wouldn't. But the ladies wouldn't.

I mean, come on with all this. That's the thing. With AI now, they could be making better fake, you know, spacecrafts, but what I can prove is they gave us a poison shot that shuts off our immune system and gives us blood clots. So I can prove that one on and I can prove they're trying to sexualize three year olds. No, you can't. Absolutely not. But he can't prove that he was once on Logan Paul's show. I mean, Logan Paul, when he was on Logan Paul show, he got embarrassingly drunk to the point where he was pouring a glass of vodka, another glass of vodka for himself.

And one of Logan Paul's co-hosts said, that's a heavy pour you do it. As if to say slow down, stop, stop. On a sweaty mess, just like, brother, tell you about, brrr, it was, it was rough. You could even see in Logan Paul of all people. Yeah. Like, wow, this is, this is a bit much. I will say that Logan Paul's a pretty good pro wrestler. I, I, I, surprisingly quite good.

I genuinely, like whenever he was like, hey, you heard a Logan Paul, he has a UFO video. My first thought is just like oh god I wish I just hit me with a UFO and end it for me now just just stop this it just stop this madness It's not something that you love to hear. I mean just hit me with a UFO But doesn't what are we doing doesn't it sound like when you're passing a blunt It's totally done college You're about Logan Paul. He's got it. Oh my god. And here's the thing here's the thing people are gonna tell you people are gonna tell you that they fake the moon lady

Well the fuck are we made it to the moon? Mm-hmm. Of course we made it to the moon times, but you can't video tape it No, so we had to fake the moon landing everybody knows the video cameras need debris they need air yeah So Alex also has a connection to Roswell if you believe Sure Of course he does But I'm not sure Well Greer is right Greer is right

Most of this is human They're doing it to make a sick the aliens are violent And they were violent they'd already wanted something And God's in control of all these groups So I agree with him that look it's the same story I'm an intel officer I'm the first to say that Roswell, we discovered bodies and crap. There's like 50 officers that have come out.

The story happens like every year. So it's always the same like we're animals, like the same program, the same lie, the same thing. And meanwhile, this gets even winner. Looks like I'm in Texas. My grandfather's a World War II vet. He worked for Royal Companies. Show the big oil fields then we're in New, in Roswell, and my grandfather from like 46 to like 52.

My uncle was born out in New Mexico. They worked and lived in Roswell. The big building, then, is the big square building, is the petroleum building. So we were coming back from a Christmas trip, like my grandmother's dead now at 92 but she's probably like eight years something. This is like 15, 16 years ago because my third child was even born then and we go out to read those or whatever to some mountain thing to ski out there. And so we come back and it's like two days after Christmas and we stop at a Denny's in Roswell.

She said, oh yeah Bill, my grandfather, the dead of years. He's a terrible student., is a terrible story. He's a terrible character in the petroleum building. We live in a little house right down the street here, and I'm in this den, and he's nobody's in there. And I'm like, really, I forgot you guys lived in Roswell. Well, what happened in 47 or 48 or whatever year it was? Because all we were here, I saw the big truck in the tarp and the army men with their

guns. You know, they said it was all secret. Well, if you look at a map where that thing crashed, there's always highways and roads. Why would they bring it through Main Street the middle of the day with the press? Right. It was all a siaop.

It was all, so my grandmother was there. They're like, there's a flying saucer. The aliens are here. Here, let's all go out here in Roswell on the main road, and then let's sit here and see it. And it was just a joke. The parade. So we have to constantly balance the sia of these things but also we understand that these beings do exist whether interdimensional or not.

Yeah they want to control the narrative about it, it's just so important. Right yeah that's what's going on. All right all right so yes obviously they exist. Obviously they're real. You can do that. You probably hear those sirens. Those sirens because we're talking about. We're talking about how this grandma blowing the lid off Roswell. They exist obviously they're real you probably hear those I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was is a Sia. So it is both real and not real simultaneously. Uh-huh. Yeah. Cool. Great.

Great story. God, his family is just involved in everything. You know, it reminds me of the movie Gross Point, but I don't know why this is always stuck with me, but there's a nice little character be in Gross Point blank where the two FBI agents, one of them just goes, why do you always got to know everybody? You know, I think I was with that guy in 94. Why do you always got to know everybody? Yeah. You know, like it's just that kind of like,

that's such an annoying character trait. You always have a personal connection to everything. Come on, man. Yeah. So it does seem like you really want to impress this guy. Yeah, for some reason. But I think it's because he works for Tim Poole and Alex recognizes that Tim Poole has a larger reach

and is like ascendant within that right wing scam. So you think you're going with the buttering them up kind of situation? Yeah. You seem like he's got a pretty consistent strategy of buttering people up now. Yeah, and if you look at like the things that Alex kind of would need for lifelines, you know, you have Stephen Crowder over here. You have, I mean, I don't know what Tucker's going to be able to do for him on Twitter. But you know, maybe keep that on the back burner. But then you also have this tenuous connection to Tim Poole and maybe trying to strengthen that, getting on the big show over there.

Maybe that's the way to go. It seems very doable. I mean, Luke Riddowski is one of his co-hosts and that dude owes his career to Alex, basically. That's true. So I don't know. it makes sense why you would bump another guest for this guy. If you really want to try and get like in as good as you can with the pool crowd.

Yeah, that does track. And so we have one last clip and Alex tries to blow a mind again and then also really sad image. What's that? So apparently Jimmy Carter wanted to reveal that aliens existed and It was not allowed to and I'm just gonna spoil this even before the clip because it's such a sad image I don't know if you're ready for it. Mm-hmm Jimmy Carter cried about not being able to reveal aliens I don't like the image of Jimmy Carter crying they well well, I mean, what they the worst part, the worst part right is he was like,

I want to reveal the existence of aliens and they were like, no, you have to work for Habitat for humanity. Yeah, for the rest of your life. For the rest of your life, you know what the shortest line in the congressional record is? Carter wept. Anyway, here's the last well done. And then I mean, again, creatures that are coming from light years away are In flying in 10 cans and are a little in gray and fall over and die and in our jets can shoot them down I mean give me a break folks. You know about the Carter the Jimmy Carter story

We always on the white house. They see all the The flying saucer. He saw the flying saucer outside of a lion's club in Georgia And then he promised to release UFO information when he got into the presidency and then he asked the belief Bush who was in charge of CIA and the story goes he was rejected and then cried about it supposedly. But I was like that. Well as if the president was in charge of the CIA. There you go.

But yeah, that's how this works. Yep. That's exactly right. Uh, should we forget George Humber Walker Bush was in the director of the CIA. Exactly. Exactly. He never worked for him. He was out. Forget that. She ran part of the training session.

He was photographed at Deely Plaza. I wonder how our K.O.S. are staying stuff like that. Let's finish up for five minutes. So we're going to go, Hi, I'm Dr. Joel Wallick, the dead doctors. Don't like I know they're missed break there a little bit. Cut off mid sentence. He yep. So yeah, Bush was not photographed.

Deely Plaza. No, there is a guy who dumb dumb conspiracy theorists think is Bush But it doesn't look like him and it's it's not here. Do you know who it is John F. Kennedy Jr Yeah, from the future. You know who it is who Alex is uncle His other uncle. Do you know it's on the crusty bowl? Oh boy all of Alex's exactly the whole family It was a family reunion. It was the whole thing they were there. Yep all the tramps All of Alex's cousins. Everybody's like, we're coming back from not. Yeah. Yeah. Little known fact, uh, Zapruder fake name, fake name, and David Jones.

So we come to the end of this and, uh, you look, my bad, we didn't get to the, uh, the indictment response, but that'll be for Friday. And we did get to see some dumb guests pop in and waste everyone's time. So at least there's that. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, we got to talk about Skon, Donkey Kong music. That's true. I mean, it's not all a wash Skonky Kong. Oh, that's the band. Donkey Skong or skonky Kong Probably skonky Kong. I think skonky Kong is the way to go. Yeah. Yeah anyway, we'll be back But until then we have we do it's all right. I'll try to come. Yep, Rose on Twitter. We are on Twitter It's that knowledge underscore fight. Yeah, we'll be back. But until then I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DCX Clark Pick it up pick it up pick it up pick it up the So Alex, I'm a first time caller in my huge fan. I love your work. I love you.