Knowledge Fight - #822: June 19, 2023

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan watch on as Alex attempts to make new friends and rekindle lost connections.  In this installment, Alex forges bonds with another weirdo named Alex, a lunatic Bilderberg "expert," and a woods-dwelling Holocaust denier.

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Dan, I have a quick question for you. So, what's your rights about today? My rights about today, Jordan, is as long time listeners of the show will know. Last year, we had the Dreamy Creamy Summer. And we did not do it this year because it's too much. I went through a lot of ice creams. I couldn't think of another thing that would be creamy

that I would want to eat a bunch of. Sure. But I am thinking about the chili willy winter. I'm thinking about the possibility of... I should have waited till you were taking a sip. That was really dangerous. You almost did a spit take. I got it. I drank it.

A swallow. Well done. Yeah, I drank it. A swallowed. Well done. Yeah, thinking about that as like more ice creams or maybe like popsicles. Sure, sure. I mean, what variation is there in popsicles? Yeah, I mean, they're just like in a different colors.

Ice coffees. Ooh, ice coffee. Actually, I would have, I don't know. I like ice coffee. I would go with an ice coffee popsicle. No, I meant iced coffee various iced coffees is the theme for the chili with a winter. Oh, oh, no. Popsicles is the way to go. I don't think it is. Yeah. Got to get different shapes of popsicle. That's not going to make

that much difference. It's not. No, you're right. I think I might have to go back to ice cream. What about a dream sickle? Does that count as a popsicle or ice cream? I mean, this is the hot dog sandwich. This is it's what are we Boston cream pie is a cake and we're all going to hell for this. Cheesecakes a pie. What are we doing? What are we doing? I'll find something. Maybe if I want to do the chili, willy winter, but we'll see. I just came up with a name and I got excited about it.

I you got to warn me if you're going to do that. It came to me in a dream. But the reason that I brought this up as a bright spot is I just was hanging around and minding my own business. And what do I see on my boot, boot, got a notification, cool house, the winners of the Dreamy Creamy Summer.

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Yeah, that's cool. What's your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is Final Fantasy 16. Yeah. Oh my god. Talk a bit about that before you started recording. You're Rejoicing it. I am loving it. It's, um, here's what I think is fun about it. All right. It is in the same way that final fantasy tactics is it's like it's not a final fantasy game. But in the same way that final fantasy tactics is it's one of the best Final Fantasy games. Interesting. It's really, really good. It doesn't have all of the final fantasy stuff that it's one of the best final fantasy games. Interesting. It's really, really good. It doesn't have all of the final fantasy stuff that you're used to.

There's no turn battles. The equipment is almost superfluous. All that you're there to do is run around, read or watch a brilliant TV show and then punch stuff. Okay. And it's great. I mean, those are elements of games that people enjoy. Running around punching stuff, watching things.

Yeah. No, it's great. I mean, it is like the final fantasy thing that is there is that the story of a good final fantasy game stays with you. You know, like you carry around, when are with... Spoiler alert. Oh no.

But it's something, like, there's stuff that you carry with you from the story as well. Which is you like the gameplay and all that stuff. That's why you spend hours in there. Yeah, it does seem to me having, like, minimal involvement or association with the Final Fantasy World Share. It does seem like people who like it,

like it for those, like like character and story driven reasons Not to say that the gameplay isn't great or something that they enjoy, but yeah, it seems like there's far more of a connection there. Yeah I'm glad that you you're enjoying it. I'm not going to play it. No, I mean, that's totally fine. It's it's not a problem Nothing nothing against you. I enjoyed We find it's not a problem. Nothing, nothing against you. I enjoyed seven enough, sure, the remade, sure, but apparently not enough to jump into 60. That's fine, that's fine.

I think what's crazy about it is that this one, I would recommend over like Final Fantasy 15 or 13 or those ones, I would never recommend those to you. This one I might, but you're engaging, here's what you do it. You're committing to watching six seasons of a TV show in four days. Look, on some level, I have no problem with that. We know that I made it all the way through survivor.

Right. Well, the buttons helped, I that wasn't a short period of time I watched it over, but it also wasn't long. That's true. It was it was it was shorter than it should have been. You tore it through it. Yeah. So I mean, I have no problem with binging something. Sure. But I'm not a conversation. We need to feel like you want me to play it. I don't want you to play it. I mean, it would be fun to talk to you about it.

I'd be cool. I'm sure you can find some walks out there who are loving the hell out of it. I hope that's fine. I mentioned this to you before we started recording. The way you describe it makes me think of uncharted. Yeah. And like, you know, there's a lot of story and it's not, you know, a ton of, like, you doing things.

Right. Necessarily. Yeah. And I just don't like that that much. I respect it totally. Totally. It's not like, it's not my bag. Yeah, I mean, we, you know, we talked about it

and it's a little bit like if you were watching Game of Thrones and then The game pot or the the show paused and was like, okay now. This is the Battle of Heron You got to use your right stick and your left stick and mex and square and all that stuff Mm-hmm, and then when you're done, it's like cool now. We're going to episode 16 of Game of Thrones You know, it's at the Battle of Heron back. Exactly. Yeah. The Battle of Badad.

So, Jordan, today we're back in the present. We're getting an episode to do. So thank you, first of all, for doing that interview with John Ronson. That was a lot of fun. I think people enjoyed that. I'm sure it seemed like you and Ronson enjoyed it quite a bit. Is it good to talk?

Is it good to talk? You really gave him what for? I think the consensus is I over-prepared. But what's fun about that is that people don't know how my brain works. I've forgotten everything that I learned. Well, I mean, over-preparing is something that is relative, kind of. You know, and like when you're preparing for something, oftentimes, if you get interested in something and you find certain

elements of things that you really connect to, it's hard not to over-prepare. So I don't know, I don't think that's as much of a judgment. It means you were interested in the subject matter. I think in our world, I don't think either of us can look at the other and say over-prepare as a... Well, today I under-pre I under prepared. Oh well ish I

Have no notes about anything This is a miracle. Yeah, okay. It's just it's just what it is. This is just what it is. We're gonna talk about June 19th 2023 okay, which is last week I believe was that Monday. Yeah, that was Monday. Okay. And it's because we got some fun guests Alex's seems to be trying to reconnect with some folks He had Gavin McGinnis on a couple days prior. I believe on Friday of the week before sure I was just some of these people from out of the woodwork are popping around right. Get in the get in the band back together for one last job

Because he's running out of money and they need to rob the final bankruptcy court to get away for good I don't know if it's that or if it is like I don't know guys. You all have any juice Anybody Bunch of washed up people looking around at each other. Like, I don't know, can I steal some of you? Yeah. Maybe you have some fans or something. Maybe people have forgotten that you're a total asshole.

Yeah. And so, you know, maybe trying to see what you can squeeze at. See if you can squeeze any blood out of the rock. They're all standing outside on the far right corner, looking at each other asking if you got a fan. Mm, you got a fan? You think? Can you spare a dime?

You can spare a dime. So we'll get down to business on this here episode, but first Jordan, let's say hello to some new wanks. Oh, that's great idea. So first, I had a dream that Dan and Jordan came to Glasgow and they were kind of pretentious arseholes. So I think they should come here to prove me specifically wrong. Thank you so much, you're an owl, Paulus Ewank.

I'm a Paulus Ewank. Thank you very much. Thank you, one day, perhaps. Next, are the globalists in the room with us right now. Thank you so much, you're an owl, Paulus Ewank. I'm a Paulus Ewank. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, I can't wait to marry you on June 24th, skip. Love, skip. The boys and love too. Thank you so much, you're an out-pulles-y-walk. I'm a policy-walk. Thank you very much. That sounds to me like skip is marrying someone named Skip.

I think that I'm glad they found each other. Yeah. You know, what are the odds? Yeah, I mean, it's hard to believe. Next, and be a bureaucrat in D.C. Thank you so much, you're an out-pulles-y-walk. I'm a policy-walk. Thank you very much.

Holy shit, what are the odds of a bureaucrat of DC? Much like skip marrying skip, just the... Oh. Who could have guessed? Wow. When did they get there? Yeah. Next, Crunchy Peanut Butter,

because a grown man needs a challenge. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And what I would say about this is, if you consider chunky peanut butter a challenge, what the hell is going on? That's...

Then you're not a grown man. Or how chunky is this peanut butter? It's maybe a little tupepples in there. If you say this peanut butter is difficult as an adjective, I think you're in trouble. Yeah, you're not gonna make it. You're not gonna enjoy it. Whoa. No. I'm trouble. Yeah, you're not gonna make it. You're not gonna enjoy it. Whoa. No, I'm out Yeah, I really have to take the credit of the mix Jordan

So thank you so much to Dan and Jordan sing along with the strings from end to game delights me Thank you so much you are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk The home to your mother tell you Someone someone sat on my assembly of bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. No, no, no, no is. So basically the beginning of this episode here on the 2019, not the 20. Alex is really mad about Peter Oates. Okay. Do you know who that is? No. Okay. So he's a doctor and he and Joe Rogan. Oh, now I know who that now there was the whole saga where he said some stuff and then everybody's sicked him on him and Elon Musk is fucking involved. Yeah, Elon Musk has said some shit and then some guy showed up at his house and yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a society where two people have so much outsized power and influence that they

can just say mean things and then a human being is I mean a torrential downpour of bullshit on them. Yeah, yeah quite a bit. Yeah. So Alex is mad at this guy. Yeah, what I find Interesting is that Alex is trying to rewrite all of his shit and be like this is one of my main villain. He was he was one of my main villains all along. Ha's the same thing you see with Epstein, you see the same thing you see with Fauci, same thing you see with Peter Dazic, or you know, any of these new characters, it's like, I've been on this guy since day one.

What are you talking about? Yeah. You do get the fuck out of here. You have been claiming that Saddam Sons are still alive for 20 years as far as I'm concerned. Well, we don't know. There might have been a certain point where you finally gave up that one. Fair enough.

But yes, he's mad at Peter Hotez. A half ago, I sat on here in January, 2022. But the entire house of cars concerning the poison shocks had come down on top of the globalist and that they would double down and try to intimidate and threaten Joe Rogan, the Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Robert of Kennedy Jr. and that that would make people like Joe Rogan dig deeper into the science and find out not only the shots out work but they knew they didn't work and they created the virus and it erases your immune system and it's a plan and he populated.

And I stand on here. The levels are so arrogant that they're going to do this and push it and that will bring them down. Chapin quicker than I thought though. Number one story in the world. Hundreds of millions of views a day. It is Ron Man's life alone that I'm just wondering. I went and checked YouTube same thing. I'm sure it's everywhere else. Facebook, Instagram.

I picked out no it is. Hundreds and hundreds of millions. When I say hundreds of millions, Joe Rogan's getting hundreds of millions today himself. Just regular response videos are getting like 10 million, 5 million and there's thousands of people posting. And there's all these folks going out, just the general public, and finding all the clips of Peter Hotez who helped spearhead these boys and shots just the general public and finding all the clips of peter hoat as you help spearhead these poison shots can see american people and who spearheads calling for the arrest of anyone that doesn't take shots and the arrest of anyone that questions both scientists and he says questioning is the opposite

of science debating is the opposite of science these are are quotes. He just went on and said it. Are they quotes though? Today. But like are they? He said he's got a new one here. With science, you do not debate. In fact, if you had one word that would describe science, it would have to be research, debate, questioning, that's what science is, questioning how the universe operates. He's literally attacking one of the three or four pillars of what science is, debate. You could debate which one's the central pillar, but I mean, it's three or four pillars. Well, if you could debate it, it seems like it's obviously

a reason of research questioning doing great debating what else you got? but no, he says you don't debate in science, okay? sorry

uh that, okay well, you don't debate in science, okay? Sorry. Eh? That, okay. Well, I mean, you don't debate. In a sense, the idea is that you shouldn't have to talk about it. Well, you could, I mean, it is or it isn't. You can debate it in terms of like discussing papers and stuff. Sure, sure. You know, in these settings and things.

But yeah, what are you saying that you know, I'm not going to debate Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah. And I'm not going to debate like science isn't debating on Rogan's show. No, that's not going to settle anything. Nope. Um, and yeah, so Alex has taken this as like he's he's trying to cut down science. I feel like we did this all 20 years ago whenever we were, whenever people were having those giant climate debates on every TV station where they'd be like, okay, well, we've got one climate expert and then we've got a crazy person.

And we'll just sit them down and that'll just take care of it, right? Didn't we do that all the time? Sure. And it's solved things. I mean, it's an entertainment model. Yeah. And Rogan is very well aware of that. Oh yeah.

And he is really easy. It's really easy to get the person who's making the sort of wackier claims. And the person who's like, obviously an embarrassment to be like in a debate with. Yeah. That person's really easy to get a hold of. And Rogan's got a pack full of those people. A nonstopstop, a whole lot of deaths. A whole crew. But yeah, trying to intimidate and badger the like the German person into having that argument. It's a little more challenging and that's kind of what you see here.

Yeah, that's, it's crazy. I mean, that's crazy. We should all, like this is one of the weirder things for me is that I feel like this is not a political thing at all. We should all just look at what just happened with those two idiots and just being like, this guy sucks, and then everyone piling on to them,

like an insane pack of wolves. Like, we should all just stop and be like, this is not cool, right? Like, we just shouldn't allow, this shouldn't happen. It's not cool, but also like, I don't see it ever ending now. No, me neither, but it's like, I don't see people calming down.

No, but like, come on. This should not happen to people. You're preaching to the choir. But yeah, I don't know. It's fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up. And I think also, you know, when you have people who are like, let's do a celebrity boxing match for charity, it's like, okay, we understand that this is a spectacle and nothing's really

going to come of it. It's profoundly un-serious. That's how Rogan should treat inviting someone to do a debate on his show. There should be an understanding that this is unserious. Yeah, Alex Jones gets drunk on your show and blows your mind with bullshit. Right, right. No, this is not like, you're not going to come to any larger.

There's not gonna be a frost nixon moment where Peter Hotez is like, you know what, facts, it's don't work. No, you should literally have to look across from a person wearing clown makeup and be like, this is what I'm doing with my life. That's what I'm talking to this person, okay? So for this next clip, a little bit of a content warning.

Alex does some fun, not fun. Disgusting, a heavy implication that Peter Hotez is a child abuser. So great. That portable baby, look at that disingenuous, predatory smile. Now I'm not saying Brian Stupper's a pedophile. Got no proof he is. I'm saying Dr. Peter Hotez is this.

I'm just telling you, if I was gonna cast somebody for a movie about pedophiles that drive around a white man's grabbing kids, I would come to him and say, sure, we need you to be the leader of the underground base with the kidnapped children. Now in reality, he's just a guy that runs a big children's hospital and is one of the

head infectious disease people under Fauci, pushing four shots, lock down the arrest of those that don't take him, taking over our bodies. He doesn't rape children physically with his penis. We don't have any proof of that. He wants to rape him with needles full of GMO concoctions. With his little, I wonder if he pours in pigs with the little bow tie on there. So you want to have that guy runs a children's hospital.

What a nice man. This is gross. Can you, can he do that? Because, I mean, not in like a can he or anything kind of way. I mean, specifically, all right. It's Trump's fault for all of the vaccine stuff. So your vehemence towards this guy should also translate to Trump.

No, no, no, because Trump got fooled by the globalists into doing what he did. Whereas Peter Hotez was the guy who specifically engineered COVID in a lab and then made the vaccines. Okay, now if that is his fault, admittedly you have me. It is a slight difference. It's all bullshit, but it is a slight difference. I thought you were going to say, is it like okay legally for him

to make these kinds of implications? It's like, I don't know. Unfortunately, probably, yeah, probably nobody's going to stop on me. Otherwise, so intensely unacceptable. It's not okay. Yeah. So Alex has a clip of hotes on TV being interviewed. And Alex just, he just gets mad at all to a state debate with r.f. k. jr. what i've discussed uh... this issue with him many times by phone and by email and and the problem is you know he just keeps on moving the goal post i mean first was the reason

that was a lot of it is not enough i don't know what the they have been proven to be liars about the whole thing they created the virus. They released it for a giant globalist power grab. It's a lot of operation lockstep. You're living in the middle of it. They have a UN world tree they're trying to push through with a UN controls every major nation states, medical policy, and you have no rights under it.

And all your medical privacy and autonomy of your body, bodily autonomy is stripped. They are flakering, clearing, present, dangers, the civilization and society. They're part of a biomedical eugenics, transhumanist, power-grab people. Oh, somebody went to his house and talked to him in his yard. This guy wants to come take your kids, put you in a camp, force him to soon jet you put you in jail for your speech John Big Farmas payroll is an disgusting blob and his little suit so little crease suit So why out then you don't only come mad?

I on my body Okay, all right, it's just that it just that he's not gonna stop himself. He can't stop himself. Like even now he's still gonna be like, oh, somebody showed up at your house, dude. You know what, but here's the slight difference that I would make. I don't actually think it's that bad to show up

at someone's house who is a matter of like, you know, you're doing a news story or something like that. I know that this does happen periodically with journalists. Sure. So that's, oh, it was a journalist you showed up in theory. Okay. That's where the mad story is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you.

I think I'm showing up at somebody's house to ask them hard questions about X, Y or Z thing. I think that that can be done within the arena of journalism. It's impolite. Sure, but it can be done. Yeah, maybe it is impolite. And it's also something that is delicate. It's something that I don't trust most people

to do responsibly. And one of the reasons why I think it's kind of more okay for somebody who works under the umbrella of an actual company, or some actual news organization, is that if they are acting inappropriately or indelicately, they're probably going to get in trouble or fired. Yeah, there are avenues for accountability. Yeah, whereas somebody who's a ding dong with a camera

isn't necessarily going to have those same measures of accountability, and it's way easier for it to be something that gets out of control. Something that is done, um, you know, um, at the detriment of this person's privacy and security. And I, I think that, uh, that, that difference is essential. Yeah. There. Yeah.

Yeah. Because it's not just a matter of like, how dare you show up to someone's house. Sure. It, well, it is if they're not a public figure, to some extent this guy is. Right. You know, like it's not, it's a little bit of a gray area in terms of whether he's

an appropriate person for you to show up at their house. Right, right, right. But you know what I mean. Yeah, well, I mean, if his first question is, why'd you kill all them babies, then I think we know that you're not really a journalist here. Well, perhaps. You've probably got more of an agenda on your mind true true

Although the people on the other side would say that the Washington Post has an agenda. That's fair That's fair, but you know they didn't ask why did you kill all them babies? It's true so Alex has some of these old buddies coming around, you know, yeah, the Gavin show some other people on this episode that we'll get to But he also has some new friends. Okay, the new friends named Alex even Alex Borestein is the edge what no, okay, no Alex Mac. Oh, okay. No, it's Alex Rosen. Have you ordered this guy? No, he's the guy who showed up at Peter Hotezz's house Yeah, how dare you drop that reveal on me so well. Yeah, so he he's Alex rat the one off some bullshit at this guy

And by the way, let me correct it because I was correct I said last time I looked at a million your video now is 18.7 million The show congratulations And by the way I saw all the place to duplicate this is probably like 15 right now. So here's the problem I'm gonna give them the specifics, but they run ops on me When we supposed kind of falls before they'll then distract off to a place for they're not actually doing it to protect from what was really going on in New York Then they have somebody go in with a gun or the at least ribs to and then they turn around that I sent them. You're calling for peace, you're calling for justice, you're not calling for violence, we're not calling for violence.

You as a journalist, you as an activist went and saw in the yard and talked to him and he didn't even tell you to leave, but you said bye-bye and you left. And you went to the police department, supposed to call for your rest, and you talked to them and said, well, you did, and they said, no, you did nothing wrong. Obviously, it's a stunt to show out on the left or a bunch of lying frauds. Now, if you'd have burned down the police station, you'd probably would have gotten bailed out by Kamala Harris, in which she did do stuff like that. So, so, but I am concerned that this is exactly what they'll do. If I've been predicting for two years, they're going to false flag some of their gods like Fauci or Hotas or some of the others. Now what you did is great. I'm going to connect it to that but I am concerned that they themselves or their controllers are going to stage something because Alex they're getting their asses handed to

them. I mean they are getting aroused. If we were waking up three years ago, I see this metaphysically, metaphorically, culturally, mathematically as... What? Death star destruction. I mean, the fact that everywhere people know the shots are poisoned, that they're a fraud, that these guys are scammers. And the fact that they try to watch a counteroffensive, saying that we're frauds, it's blown their face, and 95% of the comments are positive for us, shows devastating victory. So I'm really concerned about what they're gonna pull take a fucking breath I have no idea what he just said there were so many words and what was that a minute and a half long?

I'm just nonstop words. Yeah, that's that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's on speed. Yeah. Yeah Maybe he's uh, oh pepped up. He's got some circular breathing going on, where he's breathing while speaking in. I mean, it's insane, yeah. Yep. Find it difficult to imagine how one would appropriately respond to that. I'll take Alex. I'll take your points one at a time.

Right. I've taken some notes and, I mean, you bring up a lot of really important things. Could I ask, where did we begin? Did we begin with the weird Kamala thing or did we begin? Where did it start or finish? See, it's just this beautiful thing where there is no start, there is no beginning. It is like the circular breathing that Alex has learned to do while he's on below.

Right. Time is a flat circle, yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Wow. So, um, these, uh, he just walks these answers from these people who are pushing the shots, you know? Sure. Sure. There are people who have problematic products in the world

who would definitely give answers to questions like Elon Musk, for instance, right? Yeah. He has all these cars that are blowing up and going into traffic and crashing and stuff. Yeah, he makes a lot of shit that doesn't work. Right. Yeah.

But he is the kind of guy who would answer questions if he was pressed on them. Is what? Yeah. Thank you. With the front coach as in person, it just shows it just shows to even more people that, hey, this guy isn't going to answer basic questions.

I mean, you know, if you confronted E1 Musk about hey, what do you have to say about kind of self-driving testless maybe crashing or something? I think he would answer that and I think he should answer that. So Alcombo and it comes to Peter Hoaches, oh he doesn't need to be answering that type of stuff, you're a conspiracy theorist. I mean ridiculous, when you put out a product and do or something and it influenced millions of people, then yeah, you should have at least answered questions about it. But yeah. Keep going, brother-to-label. I mean, lay more knowledge on a school. That was a great

point about consumer advocacy, consumer rights. They're trying to force this son on us and say that we don't have a right to question it but people are questioning Elon Musk and he responds. Exactly so self-driving cars that maybe killed 10, 15 people. Okay, it's sad. I don't like self-driving cars. Overalls are going to take human-only equation, but Musk has a lot of build them and something. Have some uses. The point is that he does respond to criticism. He does talk to reporters. Real quick, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. He claims that things aren't happening He said I've seen so many things where it's like we when reached a Twitter for comment They sent a poop emoji like what are we doing? Yeah shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah

This guy wants policy and wants to silence us on top of it Oh also another point Peter Hotez didn't make the Moderna nor Pfizer shots No, so I don't know what questions you need to answer on that front and then doesn't want to question i call total bs yeah and you know it's just i mean i called code before revenge of the nerds and that's exactly what it is i mean people like peter hoes has to and obviously high school is a matter of the grand scheme of things people

like peter hoes has to probably have a lot of friends in high school not a lot of friends growing up just but just not really a likeable person. I think a lot of COVID is psychological with the fact that they finally get their revenge on people who are fulfilled in life, you have people. It's just, I think it's just retribution, man. I think they're all like little Elliott Rogers who are just finally saying, oh, I'm going to get revenge on all these people who wronged me and all of this type of stuff That's what I really think it is because now all these nerds and these eeks and these losers

They felt fulfilled doing all this stuff like you think it's a on the cool enough. They got that shit I'm gonna leave you out of it now. I think it's all like They're carrying out violence by passive aggressive covert means. This is not a serious exchange of ideas. This is stupid. We all went through the pandemic together. Yeah. Nobody got revenge through it. Ha ha ha.

That's where you're wrong. I really feel like nobody could get revenge through it. The nerds rose up. Why would they do that? Because they were bullied and no one liked them and they were all sad. No, and I understand where you're coming from. Right.

I get where you're coming from. I feel like it's because you're sad. At my dark. I'm a dark comedy. COVID. I'm confused at your reasoning. Oh yeah, because it's stupid. Yeah.

Yeah. I get it. This dude's an alpha. That's fun. You know, he, because it's stupid. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. This dude's an alpha. That's fun. You know, he is a very bizarre opinion and perception of how people work and think. And I think that there's another element to this that probably is worth mentioning.

And that is that this guy, Alex Rosen, what he does is he entraps pedophiles online. So he, there is a phenomenon of people who have like TikTok channels or YouTube channels where they pretend to be underage folks and then lure someone and then gotcha. They record the basically Chris had to catch the predator though, yeah, yeah, without the police generally being involved. Right, that's usually an important part. I think that, you know, not to defend anybody

who is cruising for underage people online, because, you know, I have a whole lot of sympathy for, you know, them getting embarrassed to the video or rest it. But I do think in the same way that, like, coming to someone's house to ask investigative journalistic questions is best left to people who have accountability, who have who have a certain amount of a job or protocol, things like that in place, it is better, I think generally, I find it very worrying, the idea of people who've got to make cottage industries

of themselves hunting down people, vigilante-ish online. Yeah, I think that there's a lot of possibilities for that to go wrong. There's also a lot of possibilities for you to have your evidence not be accepted and someone not actually get in trouble. Yeah. So like, I don't know, it just, for this guy to be, you know, this is his bread and butter. You know, what he generally does. Sure.

And now he's going in in confronting Peter Hotez. It's just weird. I don't dig it. I don't like the whole thing. Everybody stop doing all of it. Yeah, all of it together, all of it. Let's do something different. I mean, you're supposed to probably just stop doing this too.

Well, incredible job. I'm going to go to break it five more minutes. Let us come back for a full hour soon. Incredible Alex Rosen. You got to get his video. You got to share it. He is just in the zeitgeist. And I think more people should peacefully go to Hotez's house.

And just people ask him questions and educate his neighbors about him. And you know, show his neighbors what you said earlier. We're going to have it posted on info wars.com. I'm in the live show feed today. So now we're way past the line that I was making the distinction about earlier. Alex is now encouraging his audience to show up at this guy's house to bother his neighbors. I mean this is just direct harassment that Alex is encouraging and I am also hanging out on this sort of limb of like he's gone super viral almost as if like hey you could too

Yeah, you go and do this. Oh my god. Yeah, pretty sick shit. That's that's I just fine fine he doesn't learn fine. You know what fine all of you you can have them That's what you get have Alex. Yes, you can have I've tried to tell you. Yeah, it's pretty wild that this behavior would still be something that he feels comfortable engaging in. Well, why not? You know, mobilizing audiences towards civilians

and people's home. You know, I mean, the thing about it, though, is that that seems like it would be more likely to increase as opposed to less. Like, what does he have to lose now? Fuck it. In fact, maybe the only way that he gets out of this shit is if all of his fans start going around and fucking people up. So why wouldn't he do it?

And the consequences for it are none now. Oh, there's no, there doesn't seem like there's much more that can be civilly done. Right. Exactly. So what is, yeah, fuck it. Yeah. Yeah. there doesn't seem like there's much more that can be civilly done right exactly so what is yeah fuck it yeah you might be right so in addition to this old or this new guy coming around yeah Alex has an old friend an old builder burg friend not Jim Tucker okay because that guy's dead okay did I forget that he was dead? Oh, he's very dead. Okay. The ghost of Jim Tucker is not on the show. Okay. It is Daniel Esteline. Oh, no. Yep. Oh, God. Daniel Bilderberg. Welcome back. Yep. So he's he wants to explain the liberal satanic agenda. Sure.

And if I let him roll, he'll really give us some incredible data. I don't have some questions later in the hour. We want to go more than the next hour we can. So Daniel good to have you back amazing here my friend and let them have it. Oh Alex actually yeah I've been thinking like you and I we attended the 2006 I think it was Ville de Brode conference in 2006-2007. Two double check-in, in Ottawa, in Canada, and before that, you had my book came out in the billed the book back in 2004-2005. So yeah, we've known each other for about,

for about 20 years, we've been at it for a really long time, and every week. Yes, sure. Well, I know what you mean to what the previous guest was talking about and you were mentioning the left agenda, but there were the leftists. With your permission, I'd like to explain what this entire movement came from because I think a lot of people don't quite understand. We're not so much talking about the leftist. We're talking about the liberal global liberal agenda

Which is a global satanic agenda naturally But most people don't understand where it came from. They can just just came out because George Soros was on the scene I see this thing goes back way back in time So again with your permission of that's okay with you. I want to explain this because I think people need with people need to understand I'd love it if Alex was like no. Yeah, don't you do not have my permission to do that. Please don't. So yeah, Estilans, I mean, first of all, I gotta say Estilans is a fucking moron.

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It's a gordian nut. All right. All right. I'll get my sword out and we'll handle this problem. Okay. So listen, um, until, um, I said the early 1980s, American society was mostly conservative in the middle class. Okay. So this is until I said the early 1980s, American society was mostly conservative in the middle class. Sure. That doesn't mean that they all voted conservative, but their values and their alter-con life was conservative. And so then this situation

changed in favor of the liberals, with the advent of Reaganomics, in other words, the beginning of the credit simulation of demand and since this mechanism which was based on the refinancing of private debt allowed for the creation of a very stable middle class more than half of the population of the United States. In fact not only the United States but we're talking about America served as a let's say social anchor and the middle class I like the poor is very interested in having a strong state even of the strong state It's controlled by the bankers which is in in is today And so it was from this period again

We're back to the early nineteen eighties that liberal is not a classical sense of the 19th century liberal is such as Walter For example, but modern liberals or the gate parade juvenile justice sex change operations a gate parade, juvenile justice, sex change operations, P.O.F.E.U.D.U. which is about to be legalized the world over it's end-retair. Sure. So this is the meaning of juvenile justice reform being implemented not only in the United States and Canada, but I would be again on the entire Western world.

But guess again, you want liberal perks, you've got to play the game by their rules. What are we talking about? What is happening? Okay, so Reaganomics. Yep, that's where liberals took over. Which is maybe the most mind-bogglingly wrong thing I think I've ever heard anybody say.

Sure, sure. Ever. Well, sure. Yeah, Intel. Until later on, it is very own. Eclipse, yes, correct. Yeah. All right, so then it's juvenile justice reform? That is somehow about legalizing pedophilia, I think, maybe.

But I don't know how we got from the 80s to... Well, the 80s was when Reaganomics had credit based demand. Right, it was refinancing low interest loans. Yeah, so the demand in the supply and demand structure was inflated by the ability of people to be able to buy things on credit. Right. And this is where...

Pedophilia got legalized. Boom. Yeah. That makes sense. It does. What? So yeah, it's, I don't know what his point is. Honestly, I listen to this.

I don't really know what his point is. He does not like liberals. Sure. He's pretty, you know, into just about everyone of the conspiracies that you'll get. But he does have a position that I think is a little bit weird for info wars, and that is that he believes that Trump, Xi Jinping and Putin were working together to topple the New World Order. Sure. And so he's still like a big supporter of China and Putin. In a sense they were. And in a sense they very much weren't.

China and Putin. And a sense they were. And in a sense they very much weren't. Well, if you conceive of sort of liberal governments in terms of like liberty and such, if you conceive of that as what the New World Order is, then perhaps. Yeah. But it's strange because it is it is far more of a like full-throated support of Putin. Even now, basically being like, you know, Putin loses in Ukraine. We all lose. Great. Good. Good news. It's pretty. It's pretty out there. I bet he's having a real struggle recently. Well, we don't know what has happened since the 24 hour fiasco for Daniel Esteline. Also, I do want to touch on this really quick, because while we were sort of down

towards the end of last week, Oh, and Troyer pleaded guilty to his, is January 6th. Yeah. And I would just like to say that anybody who thinks that that is an indication that he's flipping on Alex or something That is absurd. Yeah, there's a misdemeanor It is it is funny on some level him being like we're gonna fight Until the end of the earth and then he just agrees to plead guilty Yeah, it's gonna get some kind of a very minor Punishment out of it And I think that one of the reasons that it's actually advantageous for him to plead guilty

is you get some kind of a resolution for it. And like I saw the headline on Info Wars was, Info Wars reporter charged while Hunter Biden goes free or something. You know, like sure is that like ability to to propagandize off it. But yeah, if you think it's like a he he's turned state's property on, on Alex. It's ridiculous. I saw some of that on Twitter. I just was like, no, you guys are, stop.

You guys are very optimistic. No one else is paying Owen forever. Not even the government. No, no, even in the future is going to pay Owen. So back to Daniel Estelon. Yeah. He's a builder burger insider. He's a, he's a guy who knows shit.

He's plugged in. Oh, so plugged in. So plugged in. He's been following these builder bird people for decades and has made a lot of progress. It's ergonomics. Oh, man. He has gotten so much done.

Yeah. Change the world. Really? No. Okay. But he has apparently, much done. Yeah, change the world really no, okay, but he has apparently And I don't even believe this part. He is apparently talked to rogue builderburg members There's a good builderburg members all right within the structure who have gone rogue I'm in on rogue builderburg members. Yeah, that is a new development that I appreciate Yeah, and as soon as he brings this up I'll just like I've talked to the two the new development that I appreciate. Yeah, and as soon as he brings this up, I'll just like,

I've talked to them too. Of course. Good times. Good times. This gives me chills because I'm at four children. One of them is six years old. And I look at an elite that are so delusional, they can't see what's happening. But the good news is, Daniel's a really smart and intellectual.

Thank you. He was able to meet with these people because they were listening. Oh. Some of the dissenters, you know, remember, that actually thought that these people are nuts, they don't see what's happening. So he was talking to people with the highest level of war gaming 20 years ago, 18 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, about their own concern about how they get out of what they've done.

So we're up here, we're not talking about some right wing football issue or some left wing political distraction issue There's some issues. We're talking like he said 30,000 10,000 foot view that only big picture being honest Well, do anything instead of debating their kind of scorched earth Stay behind network dang where they they're all digging into bunkers. I don't want the elite that to be in bunkers I want to have some of that peace deal and fix the world. And that is what Putin has tried to do. And I'm not a, I'm sorry, a rooce of file. But I'm also not a rooce of foe. And so China made deals with the globalist, it's kind of broken with them and now they're maybe back who knows? But Russia again just like Hitler just like Napoleon is its own deal standing against this

It's a magic moment. I'm gonna shut up again. Just like Hitler just like Napoleon Two of the great people in in history making a stand. Yeah, just fighting against the tide of all those people trying to survive around them Oh boy, so that's a bad mentality Yeah, and then I would also like to. So that's a bad mentality. Yeah. And then I would also like to suggest that it's a bad mentality within Alex's worldview. He doesn't think that that's what Hitler was doing.

Hitler was set up. Yeah. What are we doing here? Hitler was part of the same thing. It's like the two sides of the same coin thing. You shouldn't believe this. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

That's even not so your than Alex usually is It's it's unfortunate to feel like I'm constantly wandering around quicksand, you know like because you are there's no There's no no that you don't believe that yeah according to the things that you don't believe yeah Also, let's unpack China made some deals maybe they're Also, let's unpack China made some deals. Maybe they're going to be the back. China's China, you know, they're going to do. What are they going to do?

They're just going to do China. I think I'd feel embarrassed if I said that. I mean, that's also I think I'd feel embarrassed if I took the piss out of my own bread and butter like he did with the like the football issues. I mean, he's like, oh, not talking about some right wing distraction thing that I spend all of my day every day. All day every day. All day every day. Yeah. This isn't like my

normal show where it's just being mad about nothing for no reason. Yeah. And you know, I'm thinking of the context of Bilderberg members going rogue and talking to Daniel Estilin be like how are we gonna get out of this situation? Yeah, what have we brought right like? In the greater cosmology These people are either lesser demons or people who are directly associated with actual demons. Yeah, so you got to kind of Suspect that what they're doing is fucking with Daniel Estilin and it has to be a trap. Yeah, so you got to kind of suspect that what they're doing is fucking with Daniel Estilett. And it has to be a trap. Yeah, right? I mean, there are, in their worldview, there are literal demons and these people know them.

Right. To the point where... Turn off demonic possession like with life's witch. No! And you can't just like, hey, listen, I'm lying to this interdimensional infinite being over here. Mm-hmm. I need your help. Yeah, well, how do I get out of this?

Yeah, exactly. Daniel Estolin. You don't. There's a, it's a demon. Hey, I know you wrote some really stupid books. Help me defeat the devil. Okay. Absolutely.

Cool, man. Hey, could you help me with my eternal soul because there's this demon behind me? I would choose a better person to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah. But Jim Tucker's dead. Sorry, I guess you could. The bottom of the barrel.

So Alex asks, you know, this is this, where do you go? You know, there's some shit that's gonna go down. It's just gonna happen. It's inevitable. So what do you do? Where do you go? You go underground. What's safe?

No, you don't want to go underground. Oh, well, the idea is again again the idea is you stay where you are But you start building a community with him because you're gonna be in it. You're gonna protect and you've had your nation Okay, God blocked aren't you whatever that is whatever that may be doesn't mean a difference Okay, you you know you'll always be safer in your own land than anywhere else in the world I think that's very stupid because if you don't know the terrain the people people should be getting folks They trust getting ready now and getting psychologically ready for what's going on and then we can produce anything together If we're even psychologically spiritually ready so you're saying yeah

So the robots aren't getting their own time to send a lot of us and they're crazy enough to hope nuclear war would have saved them That's a lot of stuff going on out of this again. There's a lot of or would have saved them. That's a lot of stuff going on out of this. Again, there's a lot of new ones. Okay, but other things, one of the good things is that again, no one has the role not to explain where we're going, which means that the global is because they don't have a map, but the first time in history, they have no way to get from point A to point B. They got out of the language.

And by the way, it's funny you say that because I read The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Times in London, and then I read the CFR, and I said to some of these globalals, I met with them last few years, I said, so I'm here because you don't know what to do And they said, no, things are coming to an end, we're trying to figure out what you think And so I can tell you what you're saying is accurate What you just said is the whole of, they know they've come to a brick wall They know they've come to a dead end And so this is an amazing moment right now These globalists, the conspiracy goes back to the devil.

Like it goes back through all the human history that we have back to Biblical times and stuff, but for the first time ever, they don't know what to do. I think- Isn't that convenient? I think you're just revealing that you have, you've got no ideas.

You've got no, we've been doing the COVID thing. Yeah. Now we've run out of ideas. COVID thing is some of these other stuff like monkey pox. We tried to do that as the next COVID that didn't really work out. No. We're really gonna hit our own brick wall

when you know, 90% of the population isn't dead from these shots. Yeah, we're in a little bit. We've hung our hat a lot on a lot of people are going to die from the shots. Oh, that one, yeah. But they're not going to. No, no.

And they all should be dead by now. You way dead. Um, that doesn't seem to be happening. And we should have nuclear war by now. Oh, and that's not happening either. It's not race-specific. Oh. Shit.

Yeah. Well, the global stuff, the first time ever, the globalists don't know what to do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the global stuff for the first time ever the globalists don't know what to do. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things I think is really fun about the Daniel Estelan interview is that they haven't talked in five years. Yeah. And well, that's what they say. I don't know if that's true or not. But Alex is like, yeah, I got a new phone number and you know, maybe I got a new phone. Yeah. Yeah. We did have each other's number. And you know, just like, hey, you know, you're the best man. Oh my God. You are a primary high level source that we haven't really worked like a lot of the people that Alex has had on in the like past years, they've been worn out. Yeah.

You know, no one cares anymore. Their name is not going to get anyone excited. And so now this is somebody who's like, oh, maybe, maybe his authoritative voice can be exciting for a little while. But yeah, it'll be diminishing returns. Way diminishing. So even another guy who's coming back after years long absence. When I heard this, I was just like, I don't even know why. I

don't know what's going on anymore. All right, the next hour and twenty-two minutes, Ellen Benjamin, a popular comedian and researcher and talk show host joined us. He's been on before years ago and I wanted to get him joined us. He's been on before years ago. And I wanted to get him on just because he's a controversial guy and definitely challenges the system. And that's important. Whether you agree with somebody or not, it's important to promote free speech in this great age of tyranny. So we're going to cover the water front here. We haven't talked before he came on. I called him a few days ago. As he come

on, he said, sure, oinventorman..com. You find everything there. Both folks know who he is. Yeah, why do they know who he is? This is a barricade for both of them. Yeah, this is really weird. This is not good. So oinbenjerman was a four-hour host on Alex's show. Yeah, after he sort of got, you know, marginalized from the, uh, the intellectual dark web, folk.

Mm-hmm. And so he was doing the four the fourth hour and then he started to get really into Hitler and really, really anti-Semitic. He was really into Hitler. Very much so to the point where I think it would be fair to describe him as a Nazi. An actual out and out Nazi. Yeah, very much so a lot of his ideas are parallel. Yeah.

And so he was too much for Alex, too much of a Nazi for Alex. And so he didn't do the fourth hour anymore. And instead was in his compound in Idaho, where he would drunkenly sit around a fire in livestream anti-Semitic shit to a smallish audience of people who would call him big bear. Okay, so if I understand correctly, Owen Benjamin comedian, former comedian, has a compound in Idaho still does still does where he gets drunk and sits in front of a fire and then streams.

Well, he would do that. I don't know if he's doing that anymore. I haven't kept close tabs on his career. Wow. I mean, you don't watch every Nazi. That can't. Yeah. And I found his shows that I did watch to be a bit sloppy.

Oh, yeah. And a little bit boring. Sounds right. But yeah, so he did that. And then one of the things that I will say, not to his credit, not a positive about own Benjamin, but something that I find entertaining is that he's a guy who doesn't give a fuck.

Like when the internet, a bad, that intellectual dark web decided to disown him. He put out a video talking about how much there are a bunch of shit heads and how like they all worship Sam Harris and his parents made golden girls and he's just living off a silver spoon this fucking rich asshole like so like he burns people. Yeah yeah yeah and after he and Alex had a falling out he was like this guy's

a fucking alcoholic liar. Yeah everything is he's just so full of shit. Yeah. And so. So now he's back. And I think I could succinctly through what I've just said, sort of support my claim that this is embarrassing for both of them. Yeah. They should not be talking. Don't do it. And if they are talking, they should probably be dealing with the fact that they both

hate each other or presumably hate each other and have pretty fundamental problems with each other's world views and careers. I would, if there was a VH1 show, then like 30 years afterwards, I could see getting Owen Benjamin and Alex to like sit down and just be like, you know, we, we sort of love to stuff to each other in the past, you know, that shit man patient. On this episode, I think it would be incredibly valuable if Alex and Owen would have a conversation about what exactly it was that made them in, like, we could not be working with each other at that time. Alex, what about me was two Nazi for your show? Draw a clear line. Well, you said you said you liked Hitler.

Yeah, apparently that's not a problem. You had Ye on. Oh, yeah, that's true. And Ye, if you'll remember, referenced Owen Benjamin's jokes. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Oh, boy. I would play the clips where Owen Benjamin's shitting on Alex, but I played him during that Yay episode. So it's been recently. Yeah, I mean, but the problem there is the honest conversation is listen. I agree with you on everything that you believe, but by using slight euphemisms, I can say it.

And if you tell the truth like you're like I say I do, then we're going to get in trouble. So you got gotta go. And maybe Elon Musk has taken over Twitter and Biggits are allowed back on. So Owen's back on Twitter. Biggits are everywhere. Owen has that. So maybe he's trying to grow his brand again.

And so he's willing to not say some of these things on Alex's show in order to get back that platform. Oh my God. Get some of that money coming back here. Oh boy. Um, yeah, he sucks. Yeah. You know what's weird though?

Hour and 22 minutes exactly. Yeah, it's mostly about farming. Yeah. I'm not joking. Well, that makes sense. That makes sense. That makes as much sense as anything else you've said today. You know what it's not about?

His Nazi beliefs. Strange. It's not about how he very publicly called Alex a liar and told tales out of school about his time working for Alex. I think that that stuff is in the air and they're pretending that it's not. Yeah. Anybody who's watching this who has an awareness

of the two of them, anybody who's watched Alex's show for a couple of years would be like, you guys are cowards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like if Alex and Owen had the relationship that they had. Sure.

And Alex calls and is like, hey, do you want to be on the show? If Owen says yes, there's really only two reasons. One is to confront him and two is because he's desperate. Yeah. And he doesn't confront him. So it leads me with the, because every other thing about their entire path together would lead me to be like, no, I don't want to come on your show.

Yeah, I think you're an alcoholic liar. That's why I said it. Yeah. Yeah. But it turns out, uh, even though I said it then, it didn't bother me for the years before, uh, seemed pretty fine with it then. Well, guess what? Now I can get over it now.

Now it's fine again. Now it's fine again. I don't know. I took a five year break from you being an alcoholic liar and now you're not an alcoholic liar. That fast. Yeah, the people who like watching me drunk around a campfire maybe aren't enough to keep up on property taxes

for my compound. I shouldn't have gotten a compound. Got a downsize. Maybe. Should have gotten a tiny house. So anyway, here's where their interview begins. It is a insane world we live in. So, thanks for joining us.

I'm going to let you watch the first topic here. Well, thanks for having me. I just want to say I appreciate you having me, and I'm glad to have this combo. And happy Juneteenth. Today's a new holiday, apparently. Juneteenth, it's a big one. Not a new holiday.

In fact, this is the day that many other Republicans freed the slaves from the Democrats, which actually happened. Is that oh nice? I didn't know that. There's no. Democrats are turning around. The Democrats are turning around. That it's the Republicans.

So yeah. Hmm. It's good. Good. You know, you got a comedian and they're clearly opening with a nice joke. Great one. You, you, Alex really ground that to a halt. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, oh, he's not a good scene partner. No, no, no, no, no, no. Uh, but hey ground that to a halt. Yeah. Yeah. He's not a good seam partner. No, no, no, no, no. Um, but hey, why do we try again? Are we going to try again with the same joke? Yeah.

No, different joke. Different joke. So they're talking a little bit about RFK Jr. Uh, because Alex is still kind of into him, but also kind of like, uh, he doesn't like guns enough. Sure, sure, sure. Um, and so he wants, uh, oh, and Benjamin's take on it. Oh, and it's kind of.

Uh, uh, uh, uh, he lives in a he wants to own Benjamin's take on it. Oh, it's kind of. He lives in a fucking in the woods. And I know. No government can affect me here. I don't think he cares that much. Big picture. Yeah. And isn't super into RFK junior, but they play a clip of RFK junior from deep in the past. Uh-huh. rfk junior from uh... deep in the past uh... when uh... rfk had written a book about uh... the judge that fought George Wallace to uh... desegregate sure and so they riff on this clip here a little bit is a robberton of candy with his voice before he got paralyzed areas a lot of people now that my and george wall certainly is

he's had a great effect on I think the entire South and on the civil rights movement in this country in general. Truly a remarkable man. This is a man that Griffin Bill wanted to have a name board. Jimmy Carter did as head of the FBI, but because of ill-outly good not. But he was the federal judge in Alabama, as you say, that had such an impact on not just Alabama, but the South. That's right. During the 60s, he integrated on every major institution in Alabama because of the political

structure down there. And really, politics that really involved George Wallace politics, it really involved a stance of defiance. He was really forced to go in and and actually take over institutions that mother places of the in the south were were there was a certain I was here is a twenty four I've watched the whole interview he seems pretty smart to twenty four but extremely leftist uh... so you mean against segregation like the new uh...

streetway leftist. Compared to the kind of eastern establishment, serious elitism vibes there though. I mean, he's just radiating a liberal version of William F Buckley. It makes you want to curl into a ball. Oh my God. Well, he's radiating a vibe like he's just ready

to just bang to me. Like I know guys like that, they're just like, he's just being like you know handsome and talking smooth and they're going to be cool to share that they they're so promiscuous yeah which is okay like again I'm not coming from like a high horse I'm just a comic man a lot of people will are you will overthink me like I have an agenda like I'm trying to take something down I'm just I'm just say what I see I just see a guy that looks like he's pretty into bang, you know

Now that's a final fantasy 10 laugh right there That was such a fake life, it's scared me. Yeah, that was, that was intense. Well, I mean, Owen had to explain to Alex that he's a comic and he was making a joke and then it freed Alex up to laugh. But you saw before that, Alex was like, oh, you're going with the cliche of the promiscuous Kennedy. Yeah.

Oh, wait a, wait a, wait a, help the joke. I was pretty sure he was negating the joke entirely by calling it a cliche. Oh, wait a wait a to help the joke. I was pretty sure he was negating the joke entirely by calling it a cliche. Yes. Yes. That is how you want the person across the table from you to act. Shit joke, dude. Okay. Cool. Alright. Hey, you hack off to the next one. Okay. All right. Our 22, you say. So I watched that interview. Uh-huh. and he does look like he wants to bang. It is a fair observation on the one's part.

Look, hey, no, the Benjamin, but you're right. You're right. You're going to go. It's a cliche for a reason the Kennedys are wanting to bang all the time. Or if, Kate, Jr., in that interview, did look smooth as hell. It is so obvious and so telling that somebody just saying they're against segregation is extremely leftist.

It should tell you everything you need to know about the idea of like, oh no, they're good with the 18th fucking amendment or not. And let's be clear, there is no other context of the clip that they played. That's really all you could take away from it Yeah, and if you watch the interview it is about this book that Kennedy had written about the guy who fought Wallace over

segregation yeah, and so if Alex did watch that entire interview that's what it's about yeah So that's what he is calling like a Laptist leftist yeah, and it makes sense because I mean like we've been over this a bit in the past but like so many of Alex's ideological forefathers and the people who wrote the things that he is like, you know, heavily bases his worldview on were people who are associated with the Wallace campaigns and his governorship. So like it makes sense. No.

And the civil rights movement was their real burning passionate hatred far beyond communism or whatever. Well, the civil rights movement was just communist. Exactly. Win Quink. Yep. So, um, look, Alex had that big laugh. Oh, boy, that, I mean, honestly, that, that hurt. So that's when he knew it's comedy time. Boom. And so like ice. Oh, and Benjamin is saying that RFK looks like he wants to fuck. Sure. Yeah, yeah. And so here's where Alex goes with the rift.

Robert, fucking, Jr. No, it's not that good. Oh, or not that bad. Oh. Yeah. Which is fine. You know, I've let your faces. I want to be like, if you look at me, I've never been into that Benjamin.

Never. So good for you. I got him. I'm actually, I've never been into that Benjamin never so good for you I got actually I'm actually virgin so I get it I get it dude you're keeping it all inside you don't want to waste the male the masculine force You don't want to spread the seed to things like general ripper says the precious bodily fluids I Think there is something do that. I think that like that's one reason why they flood everybody with porn Is I think like if you keep it, I know this sounds a little crazy.

I'm getting a little distracted, but... No, I'm not doing it. There's no one doing it a month before they met. Let me say it's out of the way. Exactly, it's the fight to test a strong. It does fight to the start. I'm not a candidate, but I'm no stranger to women. I'm an happily married person.

Johnson banging, yeah. No, well, maybe in my mind. But the point is... Everybody gets it. It's not a big. Everybody's bent through phases. It's just your phases. The point is what is happening? What the fuck was that?

So he decided first that his joke would be that he's never banged or something, right? You know, like the Kennedy that he's like, he looks like he wants to fuck. Right. Never been that's never been a phase of my he's trying the fissitiousness. Great joke.

Totally. Frustrated. And then so it goes a little while and then he's like, I gotta make a correction. I have fucked. I can't. I can't let people believe for a second that I haven't fucked. But then he doubles back on it again. Well, that's because it's funny to think that I haven't fucked. But there was one moment that I thought was actually pretty smooth there. And that is when Owen starts talking about like his theories about pornography, Alex kind of cuts him off. And I And that is when Owen starts talking about like his theories about pornography,

Alex kind of cuts him off. And I think that is intentional because Alex knows that Owen Benjamin believes the Jews are giving everyone pornography to sublimate their aggression and make sense to me. Makes sense to me. Like tendencies. Worth it. Yep. Yep. That's that's what they're doing. Mm-hmm. Yep. So like I said, this is mostly about farming.

Sure. that's what they're doing. Yep. So like I said, this is mostly about farming. Sure. Because Owen Benjamin's got that land out in Idaho where he grows crops and Alex fancies himself a country boy. I mean, I'd rather hear them talk about farming than Nazis. Yeah, sure. Huh. You get high living in the country.

And so much that's gone. That was now it's like satellite TVs and you know, the country's not what what it was but growing up in each time since it was it was it was amazing well that's a made like that's exactly it like what you just described as like my heaven you know you don't get sad like depression anxiety isn't really a human natural human condition so if you're shoveling manure and you're growing stuff and your kids are running around like you're so active that you don't get sad, because I've felt- But you're in your, I'm in a room,

give the phone to somebody, right? You're under an epigenetic thing that a thousand generations did. Yeah, you're supposed to do it. You're supposed to have kids running around fighting while you're taking care of chickens and shoveling crap and you're shooting a wolf or shit, hit it with a bow and arrow.

I mean, you're getting 30,000 years old. You're in this video. Yeah, and it with a bow and arrow. I mean, you're gonna shoot it. Yeah, like they did 30,000 views. That's video. Yeah, and it's like, and you see so much truth in it. I don't know if one of your producers can find one of my videos I did where I showed people exactly how their control drew goats, where you bring the goat in,

you give it pornography, satellite TV, corn syrup, what it floor I, whatever it is, and they put their face in and they're eating it, and then you put them in tripling debt, you know, you put the thing around their neck. The goat. And then you milk them, which is their future income. And then you, you know, you castrate them, you call them brave and beautiful if you don't want to procreate it. And I'm watching this. And I'm like, Oh, it's just all farming. And so it's really hard to trick or deceive the farming type the world type and I think that's a possible hated amongst the

staff. You know, did you know that well not as much of a Franklin mainly Thomas Jefferson obsessed with farmers as the answer to the charity? Yeah, absolutely because it's impossible. The farmer doesn't get his disease easily. Okay, trick a farmer? Oh my God. If I'm a person, if I'm a con man,

the one thing I want to hear is like, oh, my group of people is untrickable. Right. Oh, yes, please. You guys are impossible to trick. There's no way I could possibly. Hello. I'll just call you Mark. How much money do you have?

So, that goat thing makes no sense. Nope. It's cute. It's just farming you Mark. How much money do you have? So that goat thing makes no sense. Nope. It's cute. It's just farming, Dan. That's how we enslaved people. It's just farming. Uh huh. I didn't hear any real reason to believe

that I am the goat in like what he was describing. Yeah, yeah. But fine, I guess, you know, you can trick some people with that. And as long as they're not farmers, because farmers can't be tricked. But here's really what I want to say. There is a very serious issue with mental health in agricultural communities, rural areas, according to an article from earlier this year in the New York Times, quote, the rate of suicide among farmers is three and.5 times higher than among the general population according to the National Rural Health Association.

Suicide rates in rural communities increased by 48% between 2000 to 2018 compared with 34% in urban areas. There is a lot of depression and mental health issues that get ignored. And part of the reason that people say that we don't have that in our communities, because nobody is allowed to talk about it. Yeah, there is a greater stigmatization or whatever. You know, he's pretending that like, oh, you stay busy and you know, or it's not, it's, that is not true. And that is a toxic mentality that leads to greater severity

and not dealing with the underlying issue that is there. And so I don't know, I think he's been fooled. Yeah, we should probably, here's what I think he should do. He should watch more movies. And I guess there's probably aren't enough. More movies where there's like this kid on a farm who has big dreams, feels depressed all the time, their families unwilling to accept them

because they're different and they're talking about mental illness issues. And then they have to leave, right? Imagine if he's seen that as a regular story that happened constantly. Could be. Might help. Might help, might help.

So farming has been very helpful for Owen. Yeah, Benjamin Another thing that farming teaches you is that death isn't even scary like one of the biggest driving forces of modern insanity is this Super fear of death and when you see a lot of death you know that it's not yeah, you know I don't know specifically what happens when you die, but I'm pretty comfortable with death at this point. And it's not really that scary, like animals die, you eat them, people die, you know, they go on, their soul goes on, and this place is a blessing. And so when you live that way, when you live a more rural lifestyle, these Bloomberg types almost appear like, like in Saint, like the level of insanity is so nuts.

Yeah, man. So totally. So nuts. You know, I had the exact same response that you did, the animals die, you eat them, people die. You have, you're going to do it in that cadence, you have to do it. Yeah. And you're a comedian.

Yeah. Oh my God. Oh, I mean, ostensibly. I get that you have a familiarity with things dying. Sure. And that maybe is interesting to you that like it doesn't shock you when you kill an animal. Yeah. Great.

Doesn't really have to do with your death. I guess you have learned that object permanence is there. Yeah. And that when other people die, life goes on. Right. And that's great. Right. That's cool. Well, I mean, that's my problem, you know. When I die, life goes on for other people. I'm worried. I'm worried about that. But not you. I know. That's why it'd be great. But yeah, you just got to go live on a farm. And then you'll get over that. I don't like the out of doors. Right. You sound like a Bloomberg type. I am a bit of a Bloomberg type.

My flowers are on the inside. So while you listen to this next clip, I'd like you to remember that Alex believes that books, certain books shouldn't be allowed in schools, right, because they're going to scandalize children. Right. And what have you, here's Alex telling a little bit of a story from his past. Start month 11, they put me in for like two months out of the summer, working for a major ranch next door to our ranch

that we sold to decades before. Big, nice ranch with black gang is your name. And it's only worked there like two months. But first it was really hot. It was crazy. 100 something degrees. But I got after about a year, I'm there a month, because they had thousands of cattle.

And they were out opening range, they also fed them. Three or four days a week, 18 wheelers would pull up. And it would be my job of a few other people, most of them, 14, 15, 16 to get up there and to get all the feed off and then they would go load it. And I got to where after a month of doing it, a couple days a week, like I love it when the trucks pulled in, gives you about two of them to climb in there and get it all out and do it. That love when they say go to this,

you know, this hay barn, then you know, grab all this hay and move it here or whatever. It's also worked there, some of the winter. And then over the years, I worked there a lot. I kicked out of high school for fighting for a year. This is a great story. So I worked for a large animal vet that I've met through that for a year.

Incredible work, learned so much industrial level vet. We're gonna come out and take him to Towsley's Laugh House. You get him ready for that? That was part of the job. Artificial insemination. It was just amazing. And I'm telling you, I got to where 5 a.m. Lauren Clark goes off.

Grandma's cooking your breakfast. Truck pulls by, picks you up, 6.30 a.m. You're in a truck with a bunch of cowboys going out to dehor in 5,000 cattle. At the end of the day, you're not just paid that money. Here's 500 bucks. You need a good job. I want to top your money.

Now, we're going to get whiskey. And I'd be driving back and they'd be pulling off the whore houses and I'd just go don't take me home. But I'm telling you, man, that's what Texas is all about. And that culture just is not around anymore. I went Benjamin, you got the stories top that? I... Top that. I'm Benjamin. You got a story's top that. I top that I I I mean, this is not a man who's on coke absolute, absolute incoherence. Yeah, like just crazy. Ah, I was put to work doing manual labor at 11 and then when I was 15,

I was working with cowboys who took me to a whorehouse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right, man. But like, all right. You know, you imagine Alex being able to understand, like, when he was 15, he wasn't an infant.

Yeah. You know, and the resilience that you have when you're those ages, you can handle maybe a book that's a little scandalous being in the library. Usually, usually. Yeah. I think Alex should reflect on that a little bit. When I did my childhood thing, I detaseled the Illinois summer job.

You walk the fields of corn and you detaseled, right? And yeah, I lasted about a week and a half before they fired me because I wasn't looking at the ground generally speaking. I was kind of looking at that. I was walking the rows and just kind of looking around thinking, just looking around. They had people following me and they were like, this is absurd.

This guy doesn't do anything on these. I was like, I am a good. I am, you could call. You are correct. I am a person you should fire. Yeah, I had a paper route. Yeah. I worked at dairy queen when I was 15. Yeah, yeah.

That sucked. Yeah, yeah. I worked at a lumber yard when I was 15. Love that smell. Oh, it was a good smell. Yep. Quit after a couple of weeks. Yeah, not for me So Alex brought up

inseminating animals. Yes, so Owen's got a little bit of a riff. We're gonna go back to the JFK or RFK junior riff It's slight slight variance. Okay. Oh, and Benjamin you got a stories top that No, those are pretty intense stories. I Know guys that are in that world and it does look pretty amazing. My world is a little more small, smaller scale. I have four cows, but I have seen them get artificially insulated. And it's so funny like my sperm guy, I call my sperm guy, who comes by with like a truck filled with cow sperm. And he's always super giggly.

And it seems like he's not super. He's not even like that into cows. And I'm like, why do you do this job? But you don't even see that into cows. He's just like giggles. And I'm like, you're into this firm. But incredible about these red necks. These are not the all had no cow or a necks.

These people would work from 7 a.m. until nighttime like craze ofs it was like completely a lot shows and you know what I'm like that's what built America and mostly cowboys have like a gravel truck and you know a cement truck I mean they're just maniacs yeah there's a tough disguise I've ever known yeah that's not a conversation I stepped on on Owen's great sperm guy joke. I mean, I think one, there were at least four beats in a sperm guy story. Uh-huh. That he missed way terribly. It does feel like that's from the act. Yeah. Yeah. No, there's, there's got to be, there's beats there. Probably. Yeah. But you want to, you want to keep it clean for Alex's show? I suppose. Maybe it gets a little bit

Runchy when he does stand up on the compound. I mean he already he was like oh when the guy comes with my sperm He didn't even he just moved on Well, you don't want to spoon feed people you gotta you gotta let them get there themselves I mean with Alex you got a spoon for you. Well, or you just say the joke and then he's like, these people are not all at, okay, at all. She's like completely off topic. Just a like a, that's like starting in the middle of a conversation they weren't having. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, no, so Alex was continuing his story in his mind while Owen was talking. Because he's on blow. And then when Owen stopped, he was like, okay, I can continue my story now. Uh-huh. All right, I just said, yeah, yeah, it's Burm guys, Burm guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I skipped over the part where you were talking. That was in my brain. Yeah, it didn't matter. Yeah. So apparently women, what about them? Can't survive the collapse that's coming. What, I'm sorry? What?

No, it's not going to be good. I'm going to be honest. That's horrible. But I was thinking about this during the break. It was a friend of mine just hit me. A photo of a man opening his car door door but leaning through the window to put his credit card in the In the computer There we've all been in the credit card reader and people look at these videos and think they're fake

They've gone out and interviewed the women the media as I saw stories that they really put gasoline in plastic bags from her chains coming to hold the gasoline Because they buy everything else in their life and put it a plastic bag. Well, this must be good You know what he eats through it in about 10 seconds In the video that the media went to interview the woman because they started like that was trying to charge the Tesla But she said well, I just bought the car and I was tired that day Now I'm not putting women down. It's just mainly these are women doing this. These are real videos. A lot of men are like this too, but women particularly on average, it's that part of the graph

that's really high, do not understand anything operates, but they're the most likely to believe in the system because they're disconnected from it. So if a farmer is the closest to reality, because they're having to make it a break it or rancher, or an oil fill worker, women's jobs mainly are now, not think her children is just working in a corporate wallow land. I'm not seeing one in a moment now. But how are they going to deal with the collapse of society?

Because to me, that's frightening, because it's hard to keep civilization going. And if you even have a birth rate of 10%, 20%, but needs replacement rate of 2.2, you have collapse. Well, not just replace the rate as collapsed, Owen. But the general public, I mean, I remember my dad's dad, my other grandfather was the best of all, is I have even had a basic study, he had roofed the house,

and fixed the stove But my dad's dad had combines everything and I remember him like taking folders cans and welding them on to fix parts You know what a pay for him and you know just like a mad demon like doing everything You just walk out shoot a squirrel skinned in two minutes and fried up for lunch I mean you name it you know butcher a cow like four hours just like a machine I think about a guy like that versus these people, that's like a God compared to a monkey. I mean, it's not even, I can't imagine how much the brain trust

that we've lost. Oh yeah, 100% to the... Yeah, man. This is a little bit like if the unibomor didn't have an education. You know what I mean? Like, this is very much like the, we need to do this, modern technology is evil,

it is, I read it, but he doesn't understand any of what he's saying, you know? I don't understand any of these questions. Exactly, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it seems to be jumping around quite a bit. Yeah. It seems tangential,

a very, like a concern for women and then his uncle and whatever is a make a tin can squirrel and generous. You know, it is, it is like a, just as we have, you know, just as they have a documented fetishization, fetishization of movies for like the vision of the future. So they have a vision of movies for the past, you know, like they don't remember,

they don't know what the past was. They have no idea. None. They're just like, oh, man, it was better than, like shut the fuck up. Well, and these like images they have of people that they knew when they were younger or something like with Alex and it is like, yes, you were five. Yeah. And your uncle looked really cool. Yeah. Like Superman, almost. Because you were smaller than him.

Right. You looked up real high. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like your dad was the smartest boy in Texas. Yeah, and I mean, I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say, even if you think it would be better in the past

for you, it wouldn't be for everybody else. Very there. Well, that's the thing that's so great and convenient about the pseudo-naziism that Alex and Owen subscribe to is they don't care about those other people who wouldn't be doing so well. That's an essential part of their ideology. It's a feature, not a bug. Yep. So we've won last clip here. And I would say that it's just Alex and Owen

being really creepy about people who have a lot of kids. You know, I've had a lot of things that I was a little resentful for over the years, like being kicked out of my profession in Hollywood and a lot of betrayals and all that. And looking back with some hindsight, it freed me up in a lot of ways. Like I that. And looking back with some hindsight, it freed me up in a lot of ways. Like I would have been on the road all the time. I, you know, you

can make a good living doing it yourself, just directly doing comedy for the people that want you. You would have made breeding like rabbits. You wouldn't have half those kids. You're like, instead of a more money and a bunch of bars late at night, cigarettes, smoke. I'm in all these great kids, this is awesome. Yeah, I wouldn't miss all those ovulation cycles. Exactly. And so yeah, I think that that's what I, because I don't know the exact answer

and you don't have to be a farmer, like everybody has their craft or whatever they're good at. Because the biggest crop is men and women having children. You got one hell of a crap. Yeah, I'm a little bit indios right now. Yeah, no, I get indios to people with a lot of kids. You know, I'm always just like, like I'm friends with like eight kids

and I'm like, who, and they'll like live in a trailer. And I'm just like, I'm legitimately envy us of them. Because I'm just like, that's where it's after. You're weird. That's weird. You're very weird. That's not okay. Yeah.

I mean, it's okay for you to believe that, I guess. I think it's okay to have a lot of kids if you want, and you can provide them with a decent life, and it's okay to, I guess, want more kids. If you have kids, it's weird to be jealous of people with a lot of kids. Yeah, that's so strange. Especially if you're Owen Benjamin and Alex Jones.

I think one of the roots of my discomfort there is that children are things. True. Children are things in this conversation, which is very strange to me. Oh yeah, yeah. And it's weird. Like, I'm jealous of this family with all these kids.

It implies not that you want to make more kids but you want to take those kids. Ha ha ha ha. Also, also, no, no, no, no, no, no. I refuse that idea entirely. That is an achievable goal for you, sir. You can downsize to a trailer and have more kids. That is something you can do.

If you are envious, feel free to do it. I don't think he was saying he was envious of the trailer part of it. I don't think so. You just want more kids. Which is also achievable. I suppose. Seems like it.

He's got 10 acres. You can put kids. I bet you could fill 10 acres with like 5,000 kids. Yeah. I have no idea how big 10 acres. No. But also, I don't think kids are that big. That's a good for a while.

That's good for a while. Yeah, you could grant more kids than adults in there. Yeah, you would diminish the amount you could fit into 10 acres over time. Right, right, right. Hmm. Yeah, I just think it's weird. Just the way, I don't think anything about like wanting a large family or anything

is that strength, I don't agree with it myself. Personally, I wouldn't want it, but I don't necessarily look down on somebody. But I found the articulation of it just real unsettling. Yeah, I mean, it's, coming from us two dudes with no children, you do what you do. You're a kid, people, you know?

You've got kids. You guys have different thoughts and feelings about kids. And that's fine. But just know that I think that a lot of the stuff you say is gross. And a little weird. A little weird. But like the thing like with Alex having four kids,

and I think Owen has seven, I think. Jesus. Yeah, or maybe six, I don Owen has seven, I think. Jesus. Yeah, or maybe six, I don't know, somewhere up there. But like for Alex to be like, you know, you have a lovely family or whatever, that's fine, but I'm almost jealous of you having more kids than me. It's just weird.

The way he said everything about it was weird. Just weird. Don't be on crack and tell me about my kids Don't don't you do Stipulence and then talk to me about my kids. Yeah, I feel like that's just fair. Yeah, that's why I didn't you talk to Daniel Estiline about whether or not you're jealous of the amount of kids he has totally that's our new first opening question How many kids you got am I jealous or not right what about the guy who showed up at Peter Hotezz's house? Jealousy his kids. That's a new segment

Shit stupid very stupid. This is a dumb show Yeah, I found it really interesting the way that like these figures are coming back from the past Some of them kind of understandably like Daniel Estelen, it's like, well, why haven't you just had him around as is? Like, it makes sense. He's a dumb fuck pseudo expert that Alex can trot out. That makes sense. Oh, and Benjamin makes no sense.

This is unearned in terms of him coming back around. There's no reason Alex would want to have him back unless he has a feeling that Owen has some fans that he would want to try and appeal to. Right. And if Alex knows what Owen's fans are into, then he's trying to specifically recruit folks who are, yeah. So this isn't good. Yeah, because you are not having a seat. I can't get outside my comic brain here. You know, like, you booked a comic. They should be funny.

He tried. I know, but that's clearly not what he's there for, because Alex can't even handle it. No. You know, like, even if he was funny, which he's definitely not. No. Alex can't deal with funny, because he doesn't understand what's funny. Do you hear that laugh?

He can handle funny. Oh my God. Oh my God. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

So it's like, why are you booking a comedian anyways? Why would you ever book a comedian on that show? I just don't understand it. Well, when it's a comedian slash bigot. You know, also I had that thought. Like, you know how the Nazi cinema thing, you know, everybody's like, Hey, the Nazis had cinema.

You know, they had this. Kristen cinema? Do what? Don't know much. Oh, all right, nicely done. Well done. I, I, I register. Uh, no, the like, you know, the Lenny reef and shelf films like all that stuff. There's no way that there were great Nazi comics. That's not a thing that was a, that could have been. You can't

be a funny fascist. I just don't think you can do it. I agree that I don't, I don't feel like that could ever really work, but now I'm just like, I want to try and find if there were. I know. Who was the number one Nazi clown? Right. No, not clown.

Because I think that could be done. Yeah. Clowning could be done. Clowning can be done for anybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a clowning is for everyone. But comedy, like monologyology, like, kind of, like actual stand up comedy.

I would be interested in seeing it. Yeah. I bet it's not good. Much like this. So we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode. Maybe we'll see Owen Benjamin return to his rightful place as a fourth hour host in the future. Oh my God.

We, but tell, we check back in, we have a website. And do we do with KnowledgeFights.com? Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at Knowledge underscore fight. Yep, we're back. But until then, I'm yeah, yeah, yeah,