Knowledge Fight - #823: March 1, 2004

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex as he is fooled by a fake story about John Kerry being a Satanist, and gets into a disagreement with a caller.  Also, the gents make a big announcement....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge, Faith. Knowledge, Faith. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Shang-ni are the bad guys. Knowledge, Faith. Dan and Jordan, Knowledge, Faith. I need money. I need money. I need money.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. And the end of the day Stop it and the end of the end of the end of the day And the end of the day It's time to pray And the end of the day
Starting point is 00:00:48 It's time to pray So Alex, I'm a good friend of mine I love your world Knowledge fight Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're good dudes like to sit around worship with the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe No, indeed. We are Dan Jordan. Dan Jordan. I have a quick question for you. What's up? What's your mind about today, buddy? You go first. My bright spot Dan is the TV show new TV show. I am a Virgo. Hmm. It was made by Boots Riley the guy who made, sorry for bothering you, sorry to bother you. Fantastic. Absolutely spectacular. Boots does good work.
Starting point is 00:01:28 He really is, you know, me, I love, you know, I wrote a book that is essentially literalizing as much as possible and blunting it down to as simple a part as possible. And what's great about this is that it does the same thing and then fantasizes it on top of it. Okay. So it like squeezes the idea of feeling like you're extraordinary and then expands it to being I'm 13 feet tall You know like it's a really really fascinating way of
Starting point is 00:01:56 Making very not subtle things. Okay. It's fantastic. Well fantastic. Hmm. What's it on? Where can people find this? Well, I will say this here's something fun. Okay, all right. It is one of the most Anti-capitalist things I've ever seen made. Mm-hmm, right Amazon Prime. Okay That's there. So there's that Hey, you got to make your product. What are you gonna do? There's no ethical consumption. And there really is it. What are you gonna do? There's nothing you can do.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Shit. Yeah, I know. Anyways, how about you? My right spot, Jordan, is, I guess what you'd call a fairly big announcement. Yeah. And that is, at the end of September, September 23rd and 24th, there is a little festival, not little, I guess it's a festival conference
Starting point is 00:02:48 QED in Manchester in the UK and I was Thrilled to be offered a spot speaking at it. You were so I will be speaking at the QED conference Indeed you will in Manchester and tickets are available on their website. I'm not sure of schedule yet. In terms of like what day I'll be speaking or what time slot or anything, but I'll be giving a talk about Alex Jones in some fashion. Still working out some of the details of the the talk itself. But I'll be going over, you'll be coming along as more as support. I will be, I will be coming along as more as support.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So I'll just be there like a backstage, I'll be like cheering you on like a like a stage mom. Yeah, I was conflicted at first when the invitation came, if I wanted you to it like be on stage and interrupt me. Wow, sure, sure. I'm still 20% into that. if I wanted you to, like, be on stage and interrupt me. Wow. Sure. I'm still 20% into that idea. It would be a little fun if I had a mic in the audience,
Starting point is 00:03:53 and I just heckled you every now and again. I don't want heckling, but hype manning, maybe, or... What else would I do? It's sure. Come on, buddy. I heckle hype. So, yeah, that's pretty exciting. It's intimidating in some ways.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I've not given a speech at a conference before. That's true. It's a little bit professional for my vibes. But yeah, you got to take opportunities that come and grow to meet them. This is the part where your co-host, your loving best friend says something like, you know, Dan, you deserve it. You've worked hard to get here,
Starting point is 00:04:32 but I'm gonna be honest, you don't. You haven't, you've done nothing, you really, you got lucky with all of the stuff you do. So you know where to ask. You know me well enough to know that that's what I need. It's way better. Yeah, that's like when my house burned down many years back, there was unfortunately a dog passed away in the fire.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And that night, me and a comedian friend, Timmy, we went to an open mic and Timmy got on stage and roasted me about how I killed a dog. Yep, yep. Instead of showing sympathy. Right, that's no, that's what I need to survive in this moment. Your sympathy only makes me acknowledge the tragedy of life. Yeah, it helped a bit in terms of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:18 not pandering and not like kid gloves. It is like, you know like when when you're acting differently to a dog they only know you're acting differently they don't know why you're acting you know do you know what I mean so when people treat you differently it means the situation is so unique and different that it makes you uncomfortable yeah yeah that's that's probably a large part of it. Yeah. So I'll be, we'll be there and having some fun.
Starting point is 00:05:49 We will be there. So come on out, get tickets to the fest, conference fest. We'll both be there. It's not a fest because like, you know, there aren't, I don't think there's like a bunch of bands. Yeah, you know, from, from the descriptions I've heard, from people who I know are going to enjoy it and have a great time,
Starting point is 00:06:10 probably not gonna be comedian heavy. Just throwing that out there. Might be, no, 3-11. I'm gonna be playing. Doutful, doubtful. So yeah, I, you know, this is a lot, you know, this, the preparing for this. And then, you know, there's a lot of anxieties that, that come along. Certainly, there's, I don't have a passport. Sure. I need to get that resolved. And I'm
Starting point is 00:06:37 in the process of going through the hoops of that. But, you know, catastrophizing the idea of like, well, instead of looking at it as like well There's you know steps to take and we'll get there. We'll make it through Yeah, instead of that There's just like the image in my head of like this isn't gonna work out and I'm gonna let everyone down It's gonna fuck up, but you know those kinds of feelings on top of the the need to you know come up with Something to deliver, all intermixed with, I've mentioned this a couple times,
Starting point is 00:07:09 in the middle of housing related move, that's been stressful and ongoing. It's just, I've had a whole lot rattling around in Mabin, up in Mabran. Yeah, you've been underneath a giant pile of shit for quite some time. Yeah, and I don't know. I think we talked a bit more about mental health stuff
Starting point is 00:07:33 earlier on when you're doing the show. And I think that that's partially because we had less listeners. And we weren't quite as concerned. It's not that I was thinking about it. It's not concerned. I know what you mean. It's not concerned's not that I was thinking about it. It's not concern. I know what you mean. It's not concern.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, I was thinking about it. And I do not mind sharing stuff about struggles and things. Because I do think it should be destigmatized and I think we should be not look at things as weakness or anything. I came to a point where I was feeling like as our audience grew because our audience is a very caring group of people and everybody is very nice. I didn't want to impose my mental health issues on other people. Of course. You know, like everyone is so nice if you say you're feeling down or whatever. Sure. I don't want people to worry about me and such.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Well, I mean, we spend all of our time talking about a guy who emotionally abuses his audience in much the same fashion that if you don't take care of yourself when you do it, you could be doing, of course. It's definitely a territory I would not want to dabble in. Yeah. to Dablin. But, yeah, things have been a bit tough and I want to thank everyone for, you know, I don't know. They're thankful things that they needed to be thanked for. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, you've been very helpful in picking up some slack interviewing Ronson See this is what I need this is what I need yeah, that was But yeah, so anyway Between between like some of that you know some of these these this down dip
Starting point is 00:09:22 Mixed with these these anxiety pressures and then also switching meds. Like it's just it's been a fucking lot. And also Alex's on vacation ish again. Put a button on that. I think he went to Florida. Sure. Because he was interviewing the pastor Rodney Howard Brown. And I believe he lives in Florida. And then he was on value-tainment, the Robert Bette David podcast. Sure. He was the guy who did the drunk hotel interview with us.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Right. Life is very fragile. Yes. And so I believe he's in Fort Lauderdale, or somewhere in Florida. And so Alex was there and then he was spotted in Omaha because his wife's family lives in Omaha. And from what I understand from like a court thing, he used out of town because his father-in-law was ill, very ill. And so
Starting point is 00:10:20 he, but he's been doing like some show out of like a of like a downgraded studio. And it's just, it doesn't have a lot of charm to it. It was very hard for me to, in the state you're in where things are kind of chaotic and a mess in your head. It's sometimes hard to work. And listening to Alex and a dumb fake studio, it's hard. It's a struggle. I love the way that we talk about this because the idea of like, oh, it's sometimes hard
Starting point is 00:10:51 to work. No, no, no, no. It's impossible to work. That we can overcome it is absurd in it. And we don't always do a good job of it, but that we can do it is the ridiculous part. Yeah, yeah, that it happened. Yeah, and, you know, like I was, I think we talked about this a little bit
Starting point is 00:11:08 and that the like doing of the show, like sitting here talking to you, this isn't work necessarily in the way that it's like really difficult to do, but like, you know, sitting down and watching him, like it is fake studio, it's fake secondary studio, and knowing like, oh, you just went down to Florida
Starting point is 00:11:25 to, you know, do all this shit. This is pretending this bankruptcy isn't hanging over your head. You know, it's, that, that is a struggle. Yeah. No, I get it. And so I didn't, I didn't find a whole lot that charmed me in the present day. So this has basically just been a long-winded wave saying we're in the past. We are in the past. We are in the past.
Starting point is 00:11:45 We're going to 2004. March 1st, we're into March. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah, pretty exciting. Things are moving along. Moving along.
Starting point is 00:11:54 We have time confirmed. We have crossed the barrier of March. And yeah, so March 1st, 2004. All right. It's gonna be an interesting little thing. Alex has one story that he is particularly invested in, and then he gets a call that he probably didn't want to take. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So that will be something we experience and get to enjoy. But first, let's say hello to some people who are at Wanks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Frederick Altamont Cornwalls, Twistleton fifth Earl of good old Ikinham but my pals call me Uncle Ale Watcher thank you so much you are now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you next happy birthday Leila your
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Starting point is 00:13:13 you very much. That was long. Be getting you to blind read that was I think the greatest thing that happened when we switched on it. That was it. I'm gonna take credit in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Patrick Madrid is praying for Zach and Maine to match this donation Thank you so much you and I will take the crap. I'm a policy walk Don't give my mentality a brilliant someone someone satan might send me a book in a poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action
Starting point is 00:13:41 He's a loser little little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So last we left off in the past. A little while since we were in the past. Not really. Okay. Well for me, it's been a long time. Yeah, I think our last 2004 episode came out on the 19th. So one week ago. Yeah. Basically, it's been forever. So one week ago. Yeah. Basically, it's been forever. So long week. Oh, it's been a long week. Yeah. But it, uh, it involved Alex, um, going to see the passion. Right. Right. Right. Of course. Yes. That was, uh, also the Underground Prix.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yes. It's the first time we met Don DeGram. Yeah. So he had that happened and that has no bearing whatsoever on what happens on this episode however long distant long time since we've heard from him uh... paul joseph Watson is going to become a gondashow to talk about a very serious issue okay i have poll watch and he hasn't been on for three weeks the webmaster prison plan dot com we've broken a several massive stories at info wars dot com and prison plan dot com is the webmaster prison plan a photo was found from a nineteen eighty two uh... san francisco chronicle article
Starting point is 00:14:57 where john carry the congressman a smiling and adoring and tonne a the satanist at a meeting with him And you know people are saying wow look at his photo. Well, don't forget carries a member of a real satanic order That goes back hundreds of years to Germany and 1832 in this country the admitted US branch of the Illuminati according to the Associated Press and MSNBC. So, at n4warz.com and prisonplanet.com, we have John Forbes-Kerry with Anton Leveye shaking his hands, smiling at him with pleasure, and then the article quotes Kerry is saying that, well, I believe that we're all divine internally and that every religion has the truth
Starting point is 00:15:46 uh... antonlavae that says to him this is the essence of satanism well done these are some quotes man i mean i don't know how you get around this if you carry i'm going to be honest if i had known that carry was a cool dude with satanism i think i would have been way more than his on his platform this is how easily swayed Down liberal like you is You hear that he likes the devil and all of a sudden you're like, oh, I don't mind his wishy washy politics I think it's more just like oh, well, there's at least something about you
Starting point is 00:16:17 There's a personality trait that is emerging something Yes, I mean this is big. I heard him talking about breaking a story about John Kerry. Yeah, and I thought like, well, maybe we're swift boat and maybe this is where we're heading. Anton Lban, we're Satanised. We're Satan-boating. Yeah, so we got this news article. Uh-huh. You got a picture? You got some quotes. Sure. Essence of Satanism is john kerry mm-hmm according to the satanic uh... temple itself mm-hmm the essence of satanism yep i don't know how this did in torpedoes campaign strange it seems like that would be a
Starting point is 00:16:53 really big deal yeah yeah so now because of this the right wing meo con types in the media they're all on board with the skull and bone stuff now of course they are again people handle the full heart of this of course the phony neocon friction talk show host are all out exposing the fact now that uh... oh my gosh he went to a meeting with Anton Levei was in the you know the uh... the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle in the front section of the San Francisco Chronicle, or in the front section of the San Francisco Chronicle. This is amazing. This is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's a picture of Kerry with a big hemogram behind him, by the way. Very interesting. Very interesting. Oh my gosh. He's a devil. He's in skull and bones. Lord save us with bush, your son. i mean basically have her and why that bush is like this this this this reincarnation he's like representing god is a pop or something to blast from a separate some christian stations he just anointed by god and spruid of gods and even
Starting point is 00:17:57 a book he's a lot of scullin bones but bush is good it's good what he's in it it's good when he's when he's saying i love Aussie Osborne death and hell and blood Yeah, I guess Bush loves Aussie Osborne. Oh, it's so crazy how people would call a political figure like a God King or like a chosen by the Lord I just indicted himself on charges of blasphemy. It seems like he has was the was 2004 wet. No, the Osborne's would have been earlier than that, I think. The reality show? No idea.
Starting point is 00:18:29 No idea. Because Osgie had that moment in the sun when that show was on and everybody liked him for a bit. No, I mean, I think what I've realized is through the, couple of Kevin Smith references that we've talked about in the past couple of weeks, I've realized I think I'm six years off with all pop culture references. So whatever it is, it happened and I think I'm going to call it something six years behind.
Starting point is 00:18:52 2002 was the premiere. So when I were both like it's probably mid 90s, right? I thought it was late 90s. No, 2002 to 2005. So yeah, this is when the Osborne's was on and obviously his image rehab see there we go going so yeah it would make total sense for Bush to be like that I watch the Osborne's yeah totally he's an old man that nobody can understand he sees toothless now he literally cannot bite the head off of the bat yeah yeah he's he's isn't the fun he's mad it's a video on the other side of the fence come on where's where uh, well, that Wilson, his neighbor, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:28 No, Wilson was, uh, a cast way. Oh, I was thinking, uh, home improvement. The same guy, the right. Wasn't it a volleyball on the other side of the fence? So Alex has a, a Gaston. I just saw that i just saw i just saw what if they had that the feds and that they just taped a little circle
Starting point is 00:19:51 bloody and okay so i like to have a guest on uh... and he's going to prison later today okay four-year-old for before i go any further i just want to find a minute to be a hit a horrible story we've had him on the show i have all the news articles he's done absolutely nothing Before I go any further, I just want to spend five to ten minutes with him. It's a horrible story. We've had him on the show.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I have all the news articles. He's done absolutely nothing. Last year, South Texas, foreign troops, Mexican troops, illegal pouring across, they're down there at a ranch. They got the national French media with them. They've documented all, and have testified. Two illegals come across. They give them blankets.
Starting point is 00:20:24 It was cold that morning, tell them. Call them call the border patrol hey these guys are illegal they weren't hurt there's you know there's film of all this and photos and actual French media this will happen to be there they come in a rest mr. nethercott you know do all this horrible stuff doing and then uh... stating climb up show up record do all the stuff what you did well now the governor is issued under the pay tree at act and he has a direct with the prosecutor mister north uh... that he's gonna be arrested at uh... two o'clock uh... mountain uh... that's in uh... about uh...
Starting point is 00:20:56 two hours and uh... three hours uh... from now yes he's going to jail yeah uh... he uh... did not just give blankets and uh... he was a humanitarian aid. No, no, no. We talked about this. Oh, I recall this dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was also, this is also the one who illegally
Starting point is 00:21:13 detained high school students. Yeah. So he has a little bit of a vigilante career. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This fucking guy. Where he's gone errant. So yeah, he comes on and is like, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like, go to jail and stop doing your kidnapping shit. Yeah. When did stop kidnapping not become an option? I mean, it did for him. Yeah. So Alex has a big rant about how our in trouble, we're in hell. And it ends about how you'd expect. Okay. We are in hell. We are in nightmare 1984 world. I was on a big liberal syndicated show. They're like, you're right. The police state buses pad that we need this to keep us safe.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And I said, what about cameras in school bathrooms? Well, there's guns and schools. You know, we've got to. You know, we're so brainwash now that, oh, cameras in bathrooms, that's good. That's not 194. What's wrong with you? What happened to us?
Starting point is 00:22:08 What happened to us? Debbie, Marrow, if you want to stop drinking the poison they're putting on the water, let me tell you, you're insane if you drink dead water. You're nuts. Oh, I know you saw Dr. Strangelov. I'm a cook saying that, you know, Stanley Kubrick. I're nuts. Oh, I know you saw Dr. Strangelov. I'm a cook saying that, you know, Stanley Kubrick. I'm weird. I don't want you to make it fluoride and nickel and mercury and and all the garbage I'm bad. The movie says I'm crazy because the TV says people are not
Starting point is 00:22:36 so they say, clean your water to the hook. Listen to me. But let's let's go to Debbie. Don't listen to her either. These are products made in America Debbie to tell folks real quick about the specials Debbie so good. Debbie tell people about the specials Tell folks about this special. I almost want that to be a dinner experience You know to just have somebody come up and scream at you for no reason about nonsense and they're like, all right, your waiter's gonna tell you this special. And then just leave. Doom be upon the hungry.
Starting point is 00:23:13 There are sinners in the hands of an angry god. But it has to be like someone screaming warnings about like not eating food or something or not ordering a side. If the table does not share a plate of fries, then all of you shall die. It has to be, it has to be something that involves like add-ons. Yeah, absolutely. Don't eat too much. Get it during dessert. So we get back to the carry story a little bit
Starting point is 00:23:45 uh... there's a big uh... bootplown i think it's important that people finally understand a picture tells a thousand words john carry basically worshipping and pond levet on him tevz pictures don't tell me that i was a bomb shell blonders on the way the way carries funning over him and it's it's carrying and Hanlow vague meeting in
Starting point is 00:24:10 San Francisco big pentagram behind them one of their little functions and you know it's when Marilyn Monroe does it or Sammy Davis Jr. it's all cute it's funny and it's just for fun you know like Bush it's going bones have a Satanism just for fun you know how it is Bush at Scullin' Bones. How have the Satanism just for fun? You know how it is. Very Christian, very conservative. I'm evil and labeled because I'm against it. I'm pro-gun, I'm liberal too, you know that works. Now I grew from big government, gun control, up borders are conservative. But this is of course you got a real life Satanist meeting with a carnival-huxter Satanist. I mean, of course you're gonna have a lot of fest. And uh,
Starting point is 00:24:40 Kerry, I got the quote here, so I have no problem with with antonlava i believe you all have deity inside of us and all religions are good uh... then uh... he said oh yes is the essence of sttonism yes ma okay question which one is the real-life sttonist in which one is the card of the hoaxes i think antonlavae is the carnival one
Starting point is 00:25:04 shouldn't be because john carries the one who is in skull and bones. Right. So he should be the real one. Right, but Anton Leve is the Satanist. Yeah, but it's all just fun and games. He's a showman. Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:15 All right. Also, now might be the time to tell you this is entirely fake. Go for no. Ah, I was really hoping. I was really dreaming. I was dreaming for I was really dreamin Photoshop picture on a fake article Of course it is yep. Yep. Oh
Starting point is 00:25:40 It won't or fake never change your fake the essence of Satanism never changes No, yeah, Alex is reporting on just an entirely bullshit. Sure, the onion. There's a lot of tells to like I went and I looked at the picture and it's very poorly photoshopped. Sure. Number one, that's an issue. Number two, very intentionally, the date on the top of the paper is creased over a little bit. Sure. So it says like Sunday, the blank, the 17th of 1988 and then there's not a right, right, right, right. And so like, you can, you can tell like someone, someone wanted this to not quite be definitive. But then also there's only two Sundays in the 80s
Starting point is 00:26:26 that would have been on that, like on the 17th. Oh, foiled by the calendar again. Yeah, and one of them is before Kerry was in office. Right. And then the other is someone went through the San Francisco Chronicle and like, it's not in there. Oh, but yeah, it's also a terrible Photoshop, all entirely fake and Alex is running with it
Starting point is 00:26:46 as one of the big, big stories. Biggest story in the world. This guy's a fucking idiot. It would be the biggest story in the world totally if it were real. With the desire that the right had to attack carry 100% that would have been devastating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If, if this were real, you would already have known about it since we live in the future.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And Alex is pretending like the right-wing folks are covering it, and I wouldn't be too surprised if some other people got duped by it. Sure. But yeah, Alex fell for it pretty hard. I mean, man, though, there were days when people couldn't quite suss out bad Photoshop, and it seems silly in retrospect.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah, yeah. this one is particularly, like if you look at it, somebody caught a picture out of a magazine and then fucking, they definitely don't look like they're in the same room. Right, right. And Tom Lovale also, they don't look the right sizes,
Starting point is 00:27:40 even kind of. That's an issue. Yeah, yeah. So the KC nethercott situation, Alex wasn't even going to have him on to complain about how he was about to go to prison. Right. But he got a call. He had to do a favor for somebody that he now does a disservice to.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Okay. Got a call at about 10 o'clock this morning About an hour before I went on air and then of course we had Casey Nutter caught on from ranch rescue The governor's publicly set into the Patriot Act They're just gonna arrest him without charges for running camp Thunderbird exposing the illegal aliens with ranch rescue And Arizona where two million illegal is coming across yearly in Cochise County alone. That's the Fed zone numbers John stepmmother called me and you know i'm friends with john john is his own show weeknight here on the broad on the station on the network
Starting point is 00:28:31 equipment the saturday show with john just because i'm too busy i'm doing all these interviews i'm exhausted you don't like to party done to interview you said this this morning i like more than i can say that you know i'm making a film doing a uh... but uh... john called me and me and a testament to John and he said, hey, Casey, how the company needs your help. You know, by the time I get on air today, he's going to already be in jail having to turn himself in of the National Guards on a coming to camp. Thunderbird, they're on the border. And were there there
Starting point is 00:29:00 assembly piece of league and shot it by the Mexican trips, not firing back and videotaping the Mexican trips drug dealing and the rest of it. We're gonna the drugs across. They killed federal officers in the area of the Mexican troops. So John said, by the way, the reason also my dad died this morning at 8 o'clock. So I mean, here's John, it just learned his dad died and then he's busy calling me, so I can have Casey another caught on.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Of course, John didn't know I was going to say this on the year and you know he wanted me to, but just, you know, we really care about this fight. I mean, I am a cent. I bet John's upset now too. That would be very upset. Wow, that's not cool. Why did you say all of that? I will never understand why people are friends with Alex. I, it's baffling.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's amazing. You could just tell that story and like he's, he wouldn't be on air by the time he has to turn himself in. He's fine. That's it. You don't have to go and put his business on the streets like that. Nope. That's not cool.
Starting point is 00:30:02 He wouldn't be, he would be in jail when that guy's show started. Yeah, so I'm gonna have him on end of end of story. Right. Because you know what? We help each other out in this fight. Not no need to do this. None. Only if you have a personal interest in kind of being a dick. I think so. Or maybe Alex just thinks me saying that his dad died and he's still so interested in getting this information out or whatever is going to be a testament to how committed John is. Sure. Not realizing that like that's very personal private business
Starting point is 00:30:36 and it's up to John when he wants to come forth with that and share that with the public. Yeah. So I don't know. I think Alex might think he's paying him a compliment when in actuality he's doing him a he's doing him dirty I mean, yeah, we've all had the friend who's like revealed some information to people that you didn't want them to know it And you're like that's kind of a shitty thing to do and they're like oh, I didn't realize that Alex does this to everyone constantly On the radio and so I know that's the problem your shitty friend is only revealed to some people you know
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's not in the fucking radio yeah yeah so i i find myself disappointed with alix what for well just about everything but particular i mean most recently that yeah uh... and so i was thrilled that a caller calls in who is also disappointed with alix rodent text is what you're on the air go ahead
Starting point is 00:31:23 yeah i'll accept about read a rager blood pressure about uh... ten points to be prepared uh... i have very disappointed in you to be honest with the up and listening to you for about ten years and my opinion of you has really gone downhill and here's why i got really excited about this i like this this is a great start to any conversation sure yeah yeah lost to uh... faith in you over ten years and I like this. This is a great start to any conversation. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I've lost a lot of faith in you over 10 years and
Starting point is 00:31:54 Here's why hey buddy. I listen to you every day and I have for about 10 years you suck now. Let me tell you about it Yeah, so here he's gonna tell him about it or try. Okay. I am very disappointed in you to be honest with you I've been listening to you for about 10 years and my opinion of you has really gone downhill and here's why. What I've been hearing from you is a lot of talk, talking the talk, but not walking the walk. Sure, I don't do enough like you do. Yeah, exactly. You got all the answers, you get out there and you bust your... Yes, I do do, I absolutely do. Okay, yeah, and and and and and well, I'm a human being. Tell you how I'm not. Let me finish. Let me.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, put him on hold. Put him on hold. Put him on hold. Put him on hold. Oh, bad. Well, I, I can appreciate that guy's response of like, yeah, I do. Yeah, because that's just trying to be a dick. Yeah, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm sure you go out.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You, you walk the walk, don't you? Yes, yes, I do. Yes, well, I mean, that's his opportunity to intimidate you into being a little bit wishy-washing. You're like, you know, I could do more. No, you can't do that. Just step up to the plate, hit it out of the park. Yeah, even if you feel like maybe you do have some points
Starting point is 00:33:00 that are assailable, you're just, you know, keep going. You would do the same to you. Yep. And then he puts them on hold. And then he puts them on hold. And so this seems to keep happening. What do you want hold? Look, it isn't about Alex Jones. Okay. And I've helped defeat legislation in the state. I've helped support those that are in trouble and get them out of trouble. I've done the best I can. I've never said I was perfect. Okay. Let me tell you. No, I'm putting back on hold. But he doesn't fall in and say, I'm not good. I'm not doing enough. Frankly, I think that's a sick joke. She got about another
Starting point is 00:33:33 minute left. Go ahead. Doing is you're acting like a sportscaster at a game and all you're doing is you're narrating and you're analyzing the game. You're not a leader. You're not a leader. Absolutely. I've never said that I want to be your leader. No, I didn't say that. I'm putting back on hold. I'm putting back on hold.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Putting back on hold. Man, he loves putting people on hold. I'd listen. I would too. Once you have that power in any conversation to put people on hold, you can never relinquish it. Right. And especially if you need to like frame people's positions
Starting point is 00:34:06 in a certain way in order to wiggle around that. Yeah, yeah. Then it is very helpful just put it on hold. Ooh, you know, you can't clarify. I'm going to put the boundaries on this conversation and you can live within those. Yeah, you can leave. Yeah, and then I can say something and you'll respond
Starting point is 00:34:21 and I'll pretend that you're not responding. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, and then we'll be dead. So Alex is not a leader, right? He just documents. He documents the evils. That's what he has for this call. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:33 So you're frustrated, you're mad about the state of affairs and so now it's my fault. We had committees of correspondence in this country for a decade leading up to 7076 that exposed what our rights were, how they were being violated, and who was doing it. I am chronically the outrageous. Just like the jungle chronicle the abuses and the factories, you have to educate people about evils, so they will then rise up and stand against it. And my message is to tell others to stand up and spread the word, and I've never seen people as receptive, I've never seen people waking up like this, and stand against it. And my message is to tell others to stand up and spread the word.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And I've never seen people as receptive. I've never seen people waking up like this. And how dare you say I'm not doing a good job. That's ridiculous. Now go ahead, buddy. You tell us what you've done. No, no, no, no, no, we'll be back on hold. We'll be back on hold.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You tell us what you've done. You tell us how I'm sure you've got some magical legal thing. That was a rhetorical question. Yeah. And yes, Alex at the end, there's like, I'm sure you got some magical legal thing. He's just like, I'm playing this guy's obviously a sovereign citizen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So sort of as a, a magic word that he can say. To boucane.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So yeah, I mean, like, sure, Alex, his point is somewhat fair, I mean, like sure Alex his point is somewhat fair Except that all of the things that he's saying are fucking bullshit So like he's documenting the evils and having a correspondence committee or whatever But he's just riling people up with nonsense right in order to serve and further his political Means yeah, I mean he's nonsense He is not up to Sinclair writing the jungle. He's retrokipping writing the jungle book. He is far more racist and making up bullshit to convince people that there are savages out there.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That is well put. So this caller, what does he actually want? He gets to it here. And actually, I mean mean this caller is right. You tell us how you I'm sure you've got some magical legal thing you do right? But you tell us how you're saving us. Let me let me give you a real-time example. Casey called up and he was pleading for help.
Starting point is 00:36:39 If we had a militia, if we really had a militia and you supported the militia, you mean a bunch of feds trying to frame other people well about him being taken in and we got something like art cork he advised or allocated the mott bucket brigade he had to get a thousand people out there yes let's have the confrontation but you will never say that because you're walking the fine line because you don't want to be shut down because you're milking everything you can because this is
Starting point is 00:37:09 your quote your job your purpose. It is my job. Thank you. Thanks for the call. And let me answer this idiot. And I'm going to call you an idiot. I just don't appreciate you saying those things to me. Again, he's not mad about the new world order. He's not and you know know what, he's sitting there saying, get violent. Well, it's free country, buddy. Free country. Caller didn't say to get violent.
Starting point is 00:37:33 No, no, no, no. He's talking about the specific case of Casey Nathercot who'd called in, he's like, I don't know what to do. I need help. That is what his call was. I have to turn myself in later today, or else they're going to send people to come get me. So this caller, if Alex believes the story that Casey is telling him, then this guy is going to be disappeared into a prison and probably killed for no reason because he stood up against the Mexican army that the globalists are in league with.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. Or something. Yeah. Like there is no other response to that. Then get some people over there. Yeah. Absolutely. At the bond be standoff kind of thing. Totally. That is what Alex should be calling them to do. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And this caller is correct in saying as much that like, you're not doing that because you make money off this shit. No, you know the ironic part of all of this, right, is that the thing that makes the most sense to do is hold a standoff with the United States government because they're inevitably going to do some illegal shit and then later on whenever it all settles down in your court, you'll get off on their technicality. Well, see, this is the long game.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's the trick. They always lose in court because they do so much illegal shit because they're like, how dare you not go to court? It's amazing. Don't give that advice to Alexey Foz. It's great advice. So, but like, I mean, I think that this is all based on a faulty, faulty premise, and that is Casey's story, because he's lying and he
Starting point is 00:39:06 abused these immigrants. And you know, he deserves to be arrested. Yeah. But if you live in a world where you like solidly believe that that is not the case. And he was very nice and he gave them blankets. And there's all this evidence that he's totally innocent. And the government doesn't care. Then that is a point where you should probably do that. I mean, if I'm at a protest... Based on what they believe, there is no reason that this should not be a standoff. If I am at a protest and the cops grab somebody,
Starting point is 00:39:38 it is incumbent upon all of us to grab that person back. I am not going to just say that it's okay for them to be arrested, and that that's an acceptable thing for them to just do. Ideally. We are in a conflict, and that means you don't get to just do whatever you want. Very least, I'm not saying it has to end up being an armed conflict where you're shooting
Starting point is 00:39:55 at the police or anything. Absolutely not. But showing up there as like at least solidarity or something a law to make a political point to force a confrontation in some sort of way that will gather media attention and like humanize the situation of this casey guy who's being unjustly jammed up by the government. It is, it's incumbent upon you to do it if you're someone like Alex.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It was, but he doesn't believe it. No, no, no, it is, it is, it was and is a thing that was a good idea for the black panthers to watch people get arrested with guns in their hands, you know, like just listen, fine. If this is a crime, if we're gonna do the law, fine, that's fine, but we're both gonna do it, okay? And we're here to hold you accountable because nobody else is. So that makes sense to me. And it's not violent, but here's accountability. Sure, but here's the difference with that.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Sure. Like, there's a different opinion like between the law and Casey, Nethercott and his friends about what the law is. Sure. So there wouldn't be a situation where you could come to an agreement of like, well, for doing the law, that's fine. But if you're doing other stuff, it's not because it is other stuff. But definitely.
Starting point is 00:41:12 No, no, that's the problem. So at the same time, like, I think what this reveals is that Alex doesn't even believe Casey's story. And he's just using this for his own, his own purposes. It's something that works well for him. But if he believed it, then it would be something that would be a necessary inflection point of some kind. Sure, I mean, that's obviously the problem.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's a fundamentally unbelievable story. Right. And Alex knows that. It's core. That story is ridiculous. Right. And that's not what this caller is saying, because caller believes it right right exactly and so that is kind of threatening to Alex In an interesting way and so he gets real mad
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah, and really bummed out for the rest of this episode because this guy Raised his blood pressure. Yeah. I mean of course Yeah, the grifter and the believer can never get along. No, they just can't. No, they will, they will be at odds with each other. But yet the believer will give the grifter all their money and tell the point when they realize, oh, no, there is a thing they'll give another grifter. It's going to say, yeah, they're going to go to a different grifter with a slightly more harsh message. Somebody who will give me a different belief. Yep. Yep. So Alex gets another call and this this person is a sister who's a public defender, but not a good one. Oh, what's up? John and Tennessee. I'm going to Regina
Starting point is 00:42:35 Dave and others. Go ahead, John. I'm a paralegal who might be able to help ranch rescue without violence, but everyone does have the right to self defend that's what i said yes uh... he i'm not gonna he wants me to sit around the radio and do that but he won't do it himself okay to never caught should never plead guilty or the waivers is right to sue for false but the rest he has it they just keep arresting him and put him in solid her confinement with no charges my sister is a public defender in two-son Arizona that she's never won a case out of thousands of cases,
Starting point is 00:43:05 so I don't recommend him relying on a public defender from the government. Especially not her. I mean, listen, that's the overworked, underpaid, no time, no case structure. Everything is impossible. Their entire job is based on morally around like trying to negotiate deals for less jail time and not innocence So I get it. Yeah, but it is still funny to never win a case out of that It's just funny. It's not my fault. It's it's funny because of the way this guy is saying this Yeah, exactly. It's it's not it's not her as if it was like helpful
Starting point is 00:43:41 She's your sister, but come on also Alex this guy did not say you should do this, and he is unwilling to do it. This guy seems very willing. He said, yes, that is what he does as a thing. But Alex, just, he needs reassurance from this caller. And I'm not sure he gets it totally. Am I bad because I'm not calling for armed revolt right now? Well you do your part and other people need to do their part. Yeah but I don't think the answer is armed revolt and I love these people that say you
Starting point is 00:44:12 need to go have an armed revolt or you're a coward. Well there's a place for that and if ranch rest you want to study the law and if they see the police breaking the law they do have the right to self defense and lawful use of justifiable homicide anybody has that right notice they're not bad if they don't but i'm bad because i don't don't know comment on that i wouldn't i wouldn't have commented the part about justifiable murder
Starting point is 00:44:42 yeah i would have left that one alone you know there's reasons to kill the cops. That's not you, I don't even, let it go. If a lawsuit doesn't work. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes. That's the one that's weird. Yeah, I think that this caller might be closer
Starting point is 00:44:58 to that other caller side than to Alex's. But yeah, it gets muddied in this strange need that Alex has to have 100 different reasons why he's right. So there's a militia that comes down to standard them. It's probably the feds. Right? There's one. Definitely. And then you got him trying to turn this into a thing
Starting point is 00:45:23 where he's calling for armed violence. Sure. He's not. He didn't do that. He's not calling. He's not asking Alex to call for the revolution. Yeah. Or anything. There's a like, it's so telling of his insincereity. The inability to handle something like this where a caller calls in and suggests him do the thing that his beliefs imply. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's, uh, yeah. I mean, but who, it's hard not to point to everybody at a certain point sooner or later
Starting point is 00:45:55 being like, I believe this and then facing the choice and backing down. Sure. And we've all been there. Sure. We've all, we've all come to a head with our beliefs and been like, well, for one reason or another, I can't follow through this time, you know? It happens. But Alex can't deal with that being a regularity of existence.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It has to be, actually, I am still doing it. Well, it's fine when you're a person. You know, but when you're a demagogue type. It's the tough. That's that is not something that you like because Alex is supposed to be fully thought out in all of his positions and everything is but he knows everything and you know, all this. So there's no room for that. Yeah. If you're if you're selling yourself as extraordinary, you can't be ordinary. Yeah. Yeah. But you know
Starting point is 00:46:42 who is extraordinary? Who? John Kerry Paul Joseph Watson. Oh, no. Yeah. He's going to come on and talk about all the important stories in the world. And you might want to note that all of these stories are fake. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're now at the halfway point of this Monday global transmission. A ton of news coming up. We're about to go back to Regina, Dave, Jack Elizabeth and others that are patiently holding with our guest Paul Watson, hadn't been on the show in three weeks and I tell you at PrisonDlinet.com and info wars.com is the webmaster for Prison Planet. It was a great job. My wife's the webmaster for info wars.com. She does a wonderful job as well.
Starting point is 00:47:21 We got some major news stories broken. It looks like they're about to engage in the stage capture. Have been logged in as we said they would two years ago, as I said they would. They're way off. We've got John Kerry with Anton Levei, very revealing. We've got the NRA engaged in covert gun grabbing and disarmament for more genetic Arnold. We've got a lot of important things happening here in the info war. All fake. Yeah, that was all bullshit. We've got a unicorn sighting like this absurd. Yeah. And it's skiing. Yeah. Just what what do we do in here? Yeah. So we of course, Ben Laden's going to be discovered in 2004. Carey is pictured with the Satanist.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I don't even know how to... And the NRA is taking your guns. I genuinely don't even know how to parody that in like a regular news organization. Like what could a regular news organization say have a three thing nonsense that would equal in ridiculousness that? It's bananas.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah, but it all makes sense on his show. It does, I mean. Totally. Yeah, like if you're watching this, it's like, yep, that's the news. No, I mean, because that's kind of the problem with the parodying of it for like a CNBC or something, is like, that's just them doing the normal news.
Starting point is 00:48:40 In his world, it's the same thing. Mm-hmm. Oh, yep. So, what Paul needs to do for Alex first, sure. news in his world it's the same thing uh... what all uh... needs to do for Alex first is reassure him about that back of course he's feeling bad and uh... poll watch them to have you on the show with a certain great to be back on the air you bet you know i was just thinking that did did did you hear that guy say i'm
Starting point is 00:49:02 bad because i'm not calling for violence yeah i heard it uh... i get it basically every day the fact that people say all you're in it to make money and if i had a dollar for everybody that said that and i wouldn't be i wouldn't need to be an intimate money in the first place because when you look at these people who make these
Starting point is 00:49:20 accusations often you find that those people blame cells are doing absolutely nothing on their own part and they're just linking more to anyone who's on the side somebody called last week and was mad that Mel Gibson's moving was doing well it was on Thursday and you know and good he makes good films now he can make more and but but my point is I say make copies of my videos oh that's not good enough you're supposed to have a cardboard box you live in and you stand there on the street corner and you don't, you know, and follow the government texture money by force. We're bad because we say here we have a book or we have a video
Starting point is 00:49:54 you can make copies of it too. We're suddenly bad but forget that argument. The other argument was, you know, you're no leader, you need to call for violence. Well, notice the people always doing that. I remember people would tell it, militia leaders to do that. They'd sit there in the shadows and do it. The militia leader'd shoot their mouth off. The feds would grab them. And then suddenly the person at home to do it
Starting point is 00:50:15 would jump up and be in the article long time in the format, said that he recorded the violent statements. It's always the long time in the format. So they know we're winning, peaceably. they know we're hurting them and exposing their crimes so they want to get us to prematurely move with violence i'm praying we can divert violence if it goes to martial law if it can believe me you'll know when we're when you're in total martial law then we have no choice
Starting point is 00:50:39 poll okay well i think he said they're in martial law stuff now. We're definitely within the we've been. So I guess you won't know when. Yeah, that is kind of the problem. Yeah, you'll know when you see it, but also maybe not. And maybe I'll be wishy washy to the very last. The problem is the seeing it part is even if I haven't seen it. That's the problem. Yeah. And I don't think that this guy
Starting point is 00:51:07 had a problem with Alex making money. I think it was that the making money is getting in the way of you being sincere to what appears to be your cause. Yeah. I think what is going on is Alex is trying to turn the conversation from one that is about following through with your beliefs to one that is about whether or not you can ever
Starting point is 00:51:30 listen to an impure person. You know what I'm saying? Like it's a purity test. We have all seen. I get it. I'm not perfect. Well, you're not perfect. Like he's trying to do that because fuck it.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Yeah, obviously. But he can't deal with the conversation. It's like, if you believe this is true, then you have to do this. Yeah, how could you let Casey get arrested if you have any sway on people like being able to mobilize and help him in some way or make a difference?
Starting point is 00:52:00 Like even if it is just do something, like not violent, not blow something up, not shoot people, but have a big enough gathering of people that you get media attention to this unjust arrest. Yeah. How can you not like be a part of facilitating that if you believe the things that you're reporting about him? Totally. If you believe that Trump killed 12 million people, that's disqualifying whether you think it was on purpose or if he was tricked, because that means that if he gets elected again, yeah, if he gets elected again, then he can be tricked
Starting point is 00:52:34 into killing 12 million people again. Sure. Sure. You know, like these are disqualifying things. You can't wave them away. Yeah. Yeah. And in this case, I really wish that the caller was more like on the line of like, you don't believe the things you're saying. Yeah. Because the accusation is still, he believes the things that he's saying. Right. But he's using them to make money instead of right. He doesn't, he doesn't believe the stuff that he thinks about Casey, because the extremeness of the things that are being reported about how illegal this arrest is. Yeah, it would be impossible to let that stand.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Sir, sir, I think what you're missing is that I don't believe any of this shit. I believe John Kerry met with the devil. You you are thinking I'm not so sincere in my belief. Sir, I have no beliefs. Yeah. Come get me. What do you got? So John Kerry picture comes up with Paul Joseph Watson. Sure. I got this very real 100% I've got to say this about Paul.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Real shit head in the present. Real shit head in the present. Real shit head from any years, but you gotta give him his due. He did tell Alex to stop covering Sandy Hook. That's true. That is definable. It is provable from the time. True. And sometimes he has instincts. Yeah. Because he's telling Alex that this is probably fake. So here's how that goes uh... but let's get into satan is a stolen bones the snooze article going back to nineteen eighty two with john forb's carry in his master
Starting point is 00:54:13 antonlava this master well but of course not still investigate but i've had a few emails which say that this uh... photo is actually staged obviously we we're not going to delight the people. We have the photo of Kerry in the anti-war rally with Jane Fonda, which later came out of the stage. And the article, which is from the San Francisco Chronicle, is dated Sunday, July 17, 1982. Now a lot of people have said that there was no sunday duly seventeen nineteen eight to do it that it was in fact a saturday
Starting point is 00:54:49 so it seems that the moment of the conference obviously will keep people updated this may be another example of how they tried to muddy the waters on the fact that people are pointing out carries involvement in school and bones along with his and cousin george bush So I don't know. I went and saw some articles that have now been written about it. And I looked at that photo.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I mean, it looks real to me. Really? That's amazing. Because what Paul is saying is that date doesn't exist. It's a fake date. Yeah. Alex is responses. Photo looks good.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Maybe, maybe the paper wrote the date wrong. How about that? Alex, you are really indicating how badly you want to believe that this is real. I mean, it is, it is like, maybe this is an example of them mudding the waters. Maybe it's an example of you being so voraciously in need of anything that justifies your ridiculous opinions
Starting point is 00:55:43 that you're willing to believe in nonsense. So here's the two things that are happening that are just bananas. One is Alex's desperation to believe this to the point of like that date doesn't exist. I'm gonna ignore that and say the picture looks good. That's one piece of evidence. And then the second thing is Paul's instincts are sharp
Starting point is 00:56:04 because he is now accepting that this is probably fake And so what he's doing is coming up with a secondary story Yeah, and that is that the globalists put this out in order to be discredited Because eventually, you know, it'll be shown to be fake and then that discredits all the stories about Kerry being in Scullin bones. Yeah. This is a false flat. It's a limited hangout, baby. This is a honey trap.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Right. It's pretty cool. And at the same time, one, he 100% knows this is fake. Yeah. And two, he's doing this in a way that is like both like Alex. You're not stupid for thinking this was real. Just to be clear, Alex, you're a very smart person. This is totally fine that you believe
Starting point is 00:56:50 that this nonsense is real. I think that's great, but also, in case you were one, I'm still investigating. We're still investigating. We're still investigating. The jury's out. Absolutely. Um, nah.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Nah, dude. So anyway, caller calls in and brings up another reason that this is fake and uh... here's our extra points to that but i do have a question for you in regards to one of the articles you have in your website today uh... you have a picture of antelope with uh... john carry
Starting point is 00:57:19 yeah and and we don't know that accurate paul says we're trying to find out okay because uh... i actually posted on a message board we've been talking about it on this message board one of the guys says that uh... it mentions uh... john carry a congressman and it's supposed to be from nineteen eighty two however john carry wasn't even a congressman till nineteen eighty five uh... no he was a congressman he says he's been over twenty years in congress
Starting point is 00:57:46 right i think that's your uh... website and it says that he was left to the congress in nineteen eighty five yeah paul brought that up in the last hour uh... that what they do is we have all this real stuff out there and then they'll put out this info to then be discredited and then all i heard that it true he and the member of scullum bone... got to be there will try to get to the bottom of it okay all right things uh...
Starting point is 00:58:10 that's pretty much it we're just trying to figure out whether it was uh... whether was real image or if it was real it does it does you got that right you already answered your own question he wasn't a congressman uh... years afterwards. There's no other questions that need to be asked. The answer is found. Well, to be fair, like I said, the date is creased a little bit. So there could be, like the people saying it's 1982 could be wrong. Could be a five. Could be a 1985. I think I think 88 was the year that the Sunday would
Starting point is 00:58:44 have matched up right. Sure. Okay. So it could be that. That's think I think 88 was the year that the Sunday would have matched up right. Sure. Okay. So it could be that. That's the way you could play it if you wanted to do that. But, um, yeah, so it's, I mean, it's just fake as shit, but Alex is hanging on so hard. Still looks good, he says, and also is trying to dispute when Kerry got into Congress just so he can hold on to this, uh, what? One of the most exhaustively detailed things is just when people went to Congress Yeah Well, I mean people are proud of it So they sure, you know, getting elected is a big deal
Starting point is 00:59:16 So absurdly detailed and exhaustively written about Yep Oh boy So we're still looking into this one I mean for people who love the idea of that like one argument solving legal cases of just being like It is because of On the But I love it to walk away, you know like the king
Starting point is 00:59:37 Mm-hmm. This is the most smoking gun evidence you could have is he wasn't there I Think better evidence would just be there's a big pentagram behind him and the Photoshop looks like shit. There's definitely that. There's definitely that. Uh, fun. So yeah, I wonder, I'm excited to see if the next day he has a retract. But here's the thing, he doesn't have to retract it because it can be a globalist sia up. Like they have said, it's so good. Even when you're wrong, you have an opportunity to like just pivot in a tiny bit and make
Starting point is 01:00:12 it a larger conspiracy that actually works for you. And honestly with a internet prank hoax like this, how's anyone ever going to really say if it was a globalist or not? Totally. Even if you find out who posted it the first time, it could be, oh, a sock puppet account of Dr. Soros. Right. Why not? Yeah. There's, it's so dumb. It is, it is one of those things that's so deceptively easy that you think like, oh man, that would be a good thing, but it's
Starting point is 01:00:38 too easy. It takes your soul away to have things come to you that easily, where you can be both wrong and right, and it never matters. You can just say whatever you want, and if it is wrong, you just pivot slightly, and be like, they told me to say it. The fact that I'm wrong is part of the conspiracy. Oh my God, you drive me insane, sir. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It is a fun game in terms of, like, it requires almost no effort, but when you get used to putting in zero effort, breaks you yeah Yeah, yeah, and then I mean we see where he's at now. You see what happens So you gotta let this be a cautionary tale about strive for things. Yeah Don't believe the pictures of Kerry with the devil are real I mean that's almost that's you'd almost be like a map point you are here
Starting point is 01:01:23 If you believe that pictures of chair Kerry and such are there you are here and you can see where you're going to go. Well, yeah, I mean, like just put it on a macro level, believing all kinds of bullshades on social media. You're here. Yeah. And then a little bit later, just a picture of Alex and present. This is where you will end up. Ooh, at least intellectually. It's yeah. So, you know, we. Ooh, ooh, ooh. At least intellectually.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It's, yeah. So, you know, we come to the end of this and this is a, there's an interesting little bit of adventure through a day in the life. It's fun. Yeah. It's a delight. Yeah, in terms of some, some Alex content that you can get
Starting point is 01:02:00 this was a pretty, pretty, you know. I don't even think we had anything anti-semitic today. No. That's downright miraculous. Oh, if it is it's crypto as hell. Yeah. You got us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:11 We're pretty attuned at this point. Um, so yeah, you just get this fun little charade about uh Anton Lefe. Um, Alex having to wrestle with people telling him it's fake at the end. And Alex having a caller who uh takes a piss out of him a little bit and he gets pissed off. That's fun. That's a good day. That is the fun part of that. Just like, listen, we have three hours to fill like it or not. There's no like, oh, we've run out of news today.
Starting point is 01:02:39 So we're going to take the next hour off, which means some days it's like, there's nothing going on. We're talking about Anton Leve and John Kerry photoshopped in the same picture on a fake news article from a year that didn't happen. Here's the trouble though. Like slow news day or not, Alex is covering that. That's a good point. Like that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I apologize. What a fool I've been. Oh, they could literally have killed it. I was probably bumped into multiple stories and harder to cover that. This is like the fertile ground for him. Ah, that's the stuff. That's the stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:17 So, we will be back, but yeah, you know, the, you know, you can be in a bit of a bummer sometimes and I have been and, you know, it'll pass. It'll pass. We'll make it through to the other side and the other side eventually leads to Manchester. But until then Jordan Rivillip. And T-3-2, it's knowledgefite.com.
Starting point is 01:03:41 We're all on Twitter. We are on Twitter, it's at Knowledge on the Score Fight. Yeah, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DCX Clark, skim doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop do So Alex, I'm a first time caller in my huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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