Knowledge Fight - #826: March 4, 2004

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan dip into the past to experience a very off-putting episode of the Alex Jones Show, where Alex gets mad about a car some Australian teens designed, and engages in full-on AIDS denialism.

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And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. at the altar of Sleen, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh. Indeed, we are Dan. Dan Jordan. Dan Jordan.

Quick question for you. What's your price about today, buddy? My price about today, Jordan, is that I finally have a date for moving. Yay! As people who listen to the show regularly, I'm sure are aware, because I've mentioned it a couple times. Uh, at a frustrating transitional housing thing going on.

And just to be able to know, all right, that is the day that it's gonna happen. I've got, you know, it's a load off. There's been a lot of like sort of lingering in the air. Yeah. Like how's this gonna work out? Time wise is, you know, I always knew that there was going to be a place where I could live.

Sure. You know, but the exact, like how am I gonna make this work? It was so so nebulous. And now just, what a relief. You know what, that's so similar to what's that giving birth Mm-hmm cuz it's like I don't know when it's gonna happen But then sometimes the doctors like hey fuck it. It's gonna happen next week and you're like shit Thank God and least it's gonna happen next week. It is exactly like giving birth. It's exactly like that and

So now I know the pain of childbirth and I will not be condescended to by any pregnant person out there. Oh, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is the TV show Warrior. It's really good. Was that a serialized version of that movie with like the baseball furies and the Warriors? Oh, no, not the Warriors. No, it's based off of one of Bruce Lee's ideas. You know, before Kung Fu happened and all that stuff, he had this idea for what amounts

to now, you know, Deadwood and San Francisco, within all, you know, with a majority Chinese cast, you know, and of course you can't do that in the 60s because racism. Sure. So now they made it. It's fucking great It's fucking great. All right, and they got a great Bruce Lee Surrogate guy playing the lead He's the warrior. He's the warrior. What is he fighting a war against? Um, I mean, you know racism. Sure white people. It's it's San Francisco in the I think 20s So so yeah, just sure white people. It's it's San Francisco in the I think 20s. So so yeah, just mainly white people

Yeah, well and then other people. Uh-huh. Yeah White people and other people. Yes What a description of the show both kinds So Jordan today we have an episode to do and we are going to be in the past We're gonna be talking about March 4th, 2004. What a terrible show. So bad. So bad. So bad. Alex is a real piece of shit. Oh, no. Yeah, he's ox. Yeah. And in some ways, it's actually kind of there's there's some things to learn and there's some things that are illustrative. So it's worthwhile how shady he is

Okay, but man he's a big piece of shit big piece of shit So we have this episode to go over it, but before you know, we dive into that and you know say hi to some walks I found something interesting. Okay, so I was going through Banzo video on Alex's website. I do as I was poking around in there, seeing what's going on, because sometimes, I have weird channels pop up. Yeah. There's the Nick Fuentes channel that's still there. I think it's inactive.

Yeah, that sounds right. But I noticed they have a best of Tucker Carlson channel. And previously, it was just the interview that Alex did with Tucker Carlson years ago. Right, right, right, right, best of Tucker Carlson. But now, Alex is just reposting Tucker's Twitter show. No. And I wonder if he has permission to do that.

Oh boy, I want, yeah, that's a good question. Yeah. If I were Tucker, I'd probably say no. Like, you would want whatever audience is going to watch it on Alex's shit to be, you know, forced to come over to your Twitter thing. Sure, I bet at the beginning with all those numbers, maybe Tucker was like, sure, go for it.

I've got billions of people watching me. And then now maybe he'd be like, hey, don't repost my stuff. I doubt it, I doubt it. I think if you're starting your own thing, especially if you're going from Fox News to doing a Twitter show, you're wanting to like really establish yourself

and maybe create a foundation of people who are know that this is where they're going to get the content as opposed to it being distributed willy nilly all over the place. Yeah, generally that is a pretty big part of success in media. I think Alex is just stealing Tucker's shit. It does sound right. That does sound right.

Hey, Tucker, call your lawyers. Not those lawyers. The other one. See, I would not the lawyers that are defending you, right? Right. Dealing with Fox News. Get some other lawyers to talk to Alex. Yeah, when you have that many lawyers working for you, you're, you're a bad person.

Uh, uh, no, like it should have just been a bunch of clips of edited together. Tucker, like outtakes and stuff like that. Best of Tucker Carlson. I'm just saying Alex Jones. Yeah. He's over it over and over again. He has some points. He just cut a super cut of Tucker saying Alex Jones over and over and over again is the best of Tucker, I think. According to one guy, exactly.

And Texas with a thick old neck. Oh yeah. So we're going to talk about this terrible bad show here in a second, but before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wands. Oh, that's great idea. So first, Don Achtcha, it seems that the entirety of the meme speech from Metal Gear Rising was over the character limit for a shout out.

Happy late birthday, man. Donacha's pronounced Donacha. Ooh, I screwed it up. Anyway, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Don't put the pronunciation at the end of a cold reading. I did that on purpose. Because you were cold reading it. I thought it'd be fun for everyone. Next, Tucker is your destiny.

Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Not if you get a zoo's hat. Yeah, I'm gonna say next, our cream fondue fountain. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much. 13th dimension. Yeah, we talked a lot. Next, I'm Dan's urban camel. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. That's the 13th dimension. Yeah, we talked a lot. Next, I'm Dan's Urban Camel. Thank you so much, you were now, policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Not sure what that's a reference to.

What is an Urban Camel? I don't know, but I know that it just makes me think of getting into an argument about whether or not there was wolves downtown. Yeah, I recall. We don't need to have the coyote versus wolf argument, okay. Next, thank you Ben, baked beans, bigons for introducing me to these guys. Been listening since the X-ray arcade.

Thank you so much, you're now, Palsy Wong. I'm a Palsy Wong. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technical credit in the mixture. So thank you so much to Dorcas Livs, May Skull McGuetten, strike down the invading sex robots.

You are now a technocrat. I'm a Palsy Wong. I have risen above my enemies. I'm I quit tomorrow actually. I'm just gonna take a little break you know. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm gonna start to show over. But I'm the devil. I gotta be taken out here. I mean, all this blah blah blah. Fuck you. Fuck devil, I gotta be taking it out here. I'll be doing all this, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Fuck you, fuck you. I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today's should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow

and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on here. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not and he's definitely not on March 4th 2004. This guy sucks. That's a lot of tomorrow's to miss being better for it. Oh, that's a significant number. If you get 1% or 0.1% better each day, from March 4th 2004 to the present, you'd probably be a great person.

I mean, compound interest, you'd be crazy. It's good. It has to be. Yeah. Oh, Alex is bad. Alex is bad. If you lose point 1% I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure this one just I mean there's just a lot of distaste I have for this episode and maybe it's because it's coming off of a couple days worth of like there's nothing going on here Sure outside of Alex blaming third world populations for babies crying in movies.

Well, that one is, it's still debatable. We haven't got the science back on that one. Yeah, I don't know if we need science. So, you know, there's this sort of dull period, and then we get to this, and it's just, just shit, just bad. But one of the narratives that he's been going over during this dull period Quite a bit is that there's a new trend The people have been doing which is putting money in microwaves. I don't know if you remember this So the new money what the new money that came out You know the cash certainly had the yeah, yeah, it has the the strip in it for like not being able to

Pirate it right or counterfeiters. Yeah, you know, so Piracy Yeah, it's piracy money piracy I mean, it's not not piracy. I don't know why that was the word that came to mind But yeah people so people were putting in money into microwaves because that that would flicker and like set on fire and So conspiracy theorists are like this is the RIF ID chip being put into the money man They're tracking your bills. Okay, so people microwaved money for a while Yeah, it was a little bit of a fad and then people were coming out and be like don't put your money in the microwave

I feel like that shouldn't be a conversation, but that's fine. It's dangerous. Yes. And then other people were like using microwaves to clean money. They thought that that would be like get stuff off money. Sure, sure, sure. So there's a lot of that going on. And to Alex's. It's a little weird.

Alex has been covering this a bit. And apparently it's really exciting because Steve Watson, Paul Joseph Watson's brother also puts some euros in the microwave. Sure. And... That is such... I mean, it makes sense if you're like a third grader,

just coming off your favorite science class, just being like, let's find out what happens when you do everything different. Sure, sure, but that third grader is going to then ask why did this happen? That is true. And then find the answer as opposed to people like Alex who are just like, it's the globalist. So you might get a some sense from that,

why that was a dull period of a couple days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was excited for this where Alex talks about how sensational stuff like putting money in the microwave Gets more attention than other stuff he talks about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean now there's a big debate Are there RFIDs in the money? I think the fact that the money exploded or popped like firecrackers It's just an illustration of man. This is some weird money. I mean, it's really a novelty, but people latch on stories like that. I mean, we'll post a photograph and I don't get a million viewers and then, you know,

some government document from the Library of Congress about how the government engineered A's and they say they engineered it in 1968 or 1975 and they say it's a soft-killed weapon and they describe it and we post that and it gets know 10,000 people look at it in a month. So it is also speaks to what captures people's attention and it certainly images you know exploding towers with a jetliner flying into them. You know, exploding towers with jetliners flying into them, you know, that gets people's attention. That's why the glow lies. I mean, and so somehow we've got to shift our minds into, you know, really becoming upset about bills and legislation and things like that, because if we could get people as excited about the Patriot Act one and two, and what's in it, as we could about exploding $20 bills,

then we would have picked this country back, but the people like visual things. They like sports. They like gladiatorial diversions. So on a descriptive level, Alex is right about the dynamic that he's describing, essentially that sensationalism cells. He's accurately assessed a problem with how human attention operates, and at this point

he's at least pretending to want to solve that problem by encouraging people to pay attention to the more boring, less sensational stories that are actually possibly more substantive. But we know how Alex's career has progressed since then, and I think that this frustration that he's discussing, it might have played some part, possibly even subconscious, as a part in his path. Instead of trying to get people to pay attention to the bills and legislation and things that matter, Alex went the entire other direction,

turning his career into a near constant barrage of empty meaningless spectacle, meant solely to capture people's attention and keep them stuck in that, like, look at this $20 bill in the microwave. Yeah, yeah. And he's aware that that $20 bill in the microwave doesn't mean anything.

No, no. This is just something that's visually interesting to people. That's a weird money. Yeah, there's probably some magnesium in the little strip or something. It's a weird money. It's not complicated, but... But it's weird money. Yeah, there's probably some magnesium in the little strip or something. It's weird money. It's not complicated.

But it's weird. I mean, that's also a weird thing to say. Oh man, this is some weird money. Like, I don't understand. It's just, okay, but fine, but fine. But fine. If that's your thesis, fine. Fine.

Yeah, some weird money. Yeah. All money is weird when you really think about it. I mean, the thing about the subconscious element of it is I mean he knows that there that his bills and shit aren't real too You know like the sensational stuff isn't real but it's or at least it is real In the sense that you can watch that bill light on fire You're saying that the bills and legislation and the government admitting that AIDS is a

softkill bio-weapon. That's not true. That's not real either. Right. Right. Right. But it's more densely boring. In terms of like trying to look into it. Right. If you were going to go ahead and read those bullshit articles about non-existent bills and stuff, that he's talking about, that is dry. That is not really all that interesting. You will come to some greater truth if you approach it and actually read the stuff critically, but it is more fun to just investigate whether or not money gets weird in the oven.

Yeah, and microwave. If there's only positive consequences for leaning into the sensationalism and positive consequences for leaning into the sensationalism and negative consequences for leaning into the boring stuff, it makes sense. Well, and especially realizing that all you really have to do is pace lip service to the more like substantive stuff and be like, it's all there, it's all in the white papers.

And then people just give you credit for having talked about or understanding any of that deep stuff. He gets credit for doing research by complaining that people aren't looking at the research he didn't do. Yes, and they're too busy talking about the microwave money that he's been spending days talking about. Yes, yes, yes, that is the dynamic.

Yeah, that makes sense. So I have bad news. What's that? You ever been to the Piggly Wiggly? I don't think so, no, what is the dynamic. Yeah, that makes sense. So I have bad news. What's that you ever been to the Pigley Wiggly? I don't think so. No, what's the Pigley Wiggly? It's like a convenient store kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah turns eight Very soon after this episode you Started to have to thumbprint to buy and sell there the mark of the beast has come to the Piggly Wiggly. Damn it.

I told you this, I told you this for six years, since I learned of it, but now it's coming. It's like I told people in 97 that HEB was involved with the Feds, with the grocery store chain in Texas, and was going to be putting in thumb scanners, the track and trace and control you for the new sales tax. And they have announced it is official.'s gone in some stores in heuston and

pollustation two years ago a bunch of hb stores in austin in three weeks are putting them in and pickley wiggly there's a big world that daily article uh... that pickley wiggly in its stores are putting them in if you use credit card check the checkout counter you're gonna have to thompson bigly, wiggly. Safeway, Kruger, Target, Walmart, just to hope you enjoy.

After you're used to using in here in the next few years, they will announce your new cell stacks. I hope you enjoy it. Title control over every business, your business. Matter of house, some all, you'll have the thumb scanner or everything you do in cell track. Title control, you thought the IRS was bad, now they'll be in your line every day. Oh, and by the way, they share the money with the local, so they'll be federally deputized and enforced. And I do have the article here from News 8, the police were

federalized and then put under you and control today's ago, bunch of them. Wow, that's a whole lot of stuff that didn't happen that is saying condescendingly. Yeah, in a real dickish way. Yeah, that's a real Tucker-ass shit to say. Yeah 19 years later Yeah, you know, you can still you pay with cards anywhere without thumb scanning. I listen Let's all just decide what the mark of the beast is and then get it. Okay. I'm tired of fine I'm trying to I'm tired of trying to figure out what is the mark of the beast. I feel like we all are.

It's Cheeto fingers. Let's just do it. Fine, everybody has Cheeto does that. That's the mark of the beast, okay? But as long as we all have it. Because you know why? Why? Because the new version of Chester Cheeto was the beast.

Oh, that makes sense. He was all pranking everybody, trying to run is Cheeto dust covered fingers on people's white clothes and stuff. So in, I mean, you're, you're just describing Ashton coacher after having eaten Cheetos. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. That's where you became possessed. You became possessed by the mark of the beast.

The cheeto. It's all making sense now. Mm-hmm. Finally. Okay, so we can put the whole mark of the beast thing to rest. It's cheeto fingers. I might have played this, I think on an intellectual level. I wanted to play this clip because It's an example of like these predictions that Alex makes and these like the his tone is so just snarky and like Hope you enjoy me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me and saying, Piggly Wiggly. Patrons, I regret to inform you that the Piggly Wiggly has fallen. I'm sorry.

The globalists have taken the Piggly Wiggly. I'm sorry. Are we no longer allowed in the Piggly Wiggly's anymore? Oh no. I also was desperately trying to come up with a way that I could make H.E.B. a acronym for a government entity. And I just, I couldn't do it in real time. So, um, you have a car. I do. Does

it ever turn into a robot and lock you inside it? No, it unfortunately does not. Oh shit, another prediction Alex got wrong. I'm probably aired this neo-constar that about 20 times he has. about 20 times. He has. Because according to the federal documents, the guest, members of Congress, people from the different legislatures I've had on about this, this is actually minus the mobile injections. What life will be like? Your car will lock you in it. It will not start if you've got one parking ticket. A camera will watch you in your car. It's actually worse than this so-called dark humor. Yeah. So there's this thing or this piece, this bit of comedy business, yeah, called Neo-Con star that Alex has played 100 fucking times. He says 20. That is a low estimate.

And it's sort of a skit of Somebody calling on star, but it's like Neal Right, right, right, so it's like hey, you know, you need to your national ID card Lock you it actually. Why am I doing an impression of this? I'm gonna play part of it I don't know why I tried to recreate this no, I'm enjoying stupid bit. It's nice to see it in advance, and then we'll see the real version. I appreciate that. So yeah, Alex, Alex has this, and he's like, this is what it's going to be like, man. This is, I know I told you this is a terrible episode.

We just haven't gotten to the horrible stuff. No, no, no, it's just a little bit of levity at the beginning, I guess. But yeah, so here comes a little bit of that Neocon Starrs kit. Okay. Here's the Neocon Starr, just just one more time because Toyota has actually rolled out one of these and says that the government wants this and so they're providing it and this will be the new car that we all use. And basically, it is a mirror image, actually a little bit worse in several cases than this

humor of two months ago. So here it is. The following is an actual conversation between a Neoconstart operator and a subscriber in distress, who is locked in her car and doesn't have the proper authorization to get out. With Neoconstart, help us just to settle it away. Eocon Star, how can I offer you a great service today? Please help me untrap in my car! My retinus gamma won't work! Just relax, sir! It's not, sir, it's ma'am! Please hurry, it's hot in here!

According to Admiral Point Dixeter, the obese I have you at the Monts-Land-Tomar on sick history. Right! I have a live shot of you from the Neil Constell observation but it being a area. I'm a no-lady. Oh. Well, she's an old lady, folks. Wow. For some reason, some of those files have been hiccuping

on us. So Stephanie, you know what's going on? No, we've had someone in the computer hacking up the auto We have another one so you oh My goodness and now we have it for you my friends Yeah, I started over for us. Here's Neoconstart from the top. He likes so it ends up like the Neoconstart operator is going to send people to kill her because she is maybe a terrorist because you can't find her card or something and then they offer a lethal injection and she takes it.

It's the end of the bit. Yeah, yeah. Not really a well constructed bit. No, but man, you could you could see the bit. Yeah, yeah, not really a well constructed bit. No, but man You could you could see the little the monsanto mar at Merle point dexter's database You see all these things that are like I get it if you're conspiracy there's you're like, aha See I know what you're talking about. That's the problem with that's playing for the back of the room That's the issue. It's all for the back of the room and it's not funny. This is comedians comedian no

It's for people who are just excited to hear the thing that they know and go, we. Yep. That's it. It's not a bit. There's no turn. It's high level. There's no turn. Yes, there is a turn. She decides that she wants to die in that car by lethal injection instead of waiting for the troops to come and kill her. Explain to me how that's a turn. It's a twist. No, it's not. It's a piece of the reasonable outcome of the accepted logic within the bit. Nobody is acting out of the ordinary. I mean, in the constructed reality

that they've established. Yes. This is just a totally normal conversation. It doesn't, I mean, no. it seems to be a robot for one thing. That was another issue to be an AI. Why was that? I don't know. Why were any of those choices?

I don't know, but Alex has played it a lot. Yeah. So I've heard it a lot. Yeah, I believe you. And, uh, Is it funnier? No. Uh, this is what's gonna happen though.

This is obviously where we are in 2023. Yeah. lethal injection machines and cars and you know what I find funny about this is in a sense we are being watched in our cars by our phones. Like our phones are always listening to us. They are always recording the things that we say. And then there are a number of public and private video cameras

all over the place where you're driving. Totally. There are lights, you know, like you can get a ticket and if you run a red light and stuff, you know, yeah, there's there are issues. Right. It's not with the car. No, no, what's funny to me though is that all of these things

are stuff he's like, oh yeah, this is totally fine. You know, in the conception of his, like right now in 2004, yeah, if he was screaming like, eventually your phone's going to be listening to you all the time and it's gonna pick up keywords that you say and then the next time you search for something,

they're going to recognize that you said that and then they're gonna spit it back out at you. They're always watching me. He may do that on other episodes and at other times. Right. Perhaps. Right, but that would sound like a government- And he says stuff-

He says stuff- Crazy globalist murder. He says stuff like your refrigerator is listening to you and stuff like that, less than the iPhone concerns. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I don't know. I think it's a little excessive. I mean, the thing that's funny about it is that it is completely just like paved over. You know, like, hey, we already,

hey, listen, we already all have our phones. There's nothing we can do about it. Anyways, moving on. No, no, no globalist conspiracy is just like, hey, we shouldn't have these phones, just no phones. Sure. Let's go back to Rotaries. I mean, that's if you don't want them to watch you.

But even so, you are transposing onto this. What is your kind of like valid awareness about the world, which is that there is this, you know, monitor and capability that exists. Right. Whereas Alex is like, if you don't pay your parking tickets, your car will lock you inside it. You know, like, that's the dystopian stuff that's like, yes.

All right. He has a very unreasonable dystopia. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would be counterproductive. Yeah, exactly. Even for the people who are trying to collect on these parking tickets. Why do they do it locking you inside your car?

That's the least way place you can pay for it. Right. Unless the people come, they show up and then you have to give them money to get out of the car. Right. But then like what, what, what, what, you're going to take someone to debtors prison? Or are you going to let them die in the car? No, your car is debtors prison. Now, are you going to take them to an ATM if that's what they need?

Do you know what I'm saying? Like, how do they get the money to pay you? I don't know. A thumbskin. But we got an article that's backing Alex up on this stuff. All right. Here's Wired Magazine today. And then I have another one here,

out of another major newspaper, reporting on the same thing. And it says Melbourne Australia, at the Melbourne Mohert Show last week, put on veiled a controversial concept card would very closely monitor and in some cases restrict the action of its driver, including refusing to turn on. To drive the sleek Toyota sports T-Vo, a driver would have to enter a memory card into its console, turn on the engine, base the driver's experience and driving record the car adjusts its engine performance, cutting back, remote, or less experience or spotting driving record seats to save the children.

Drivers of the future who have grown up with the electronic age of heavier remote speed camera enforcement measures and electronic tollway charging systems are accepting of new technology that assists their lifestyle as a way of monitoring until we out of press release says about the car. Its essential for drivers to be fully informed in this area of increasing electronic surveillance. And when we get back, it says you'll be watched by cameras, everything you do will be controlled, you will submit. You may have caught there that Alec said

that that was a concept car. And that means this car that wasn't actually made and produced, is there's a modeling of an idea that someone had? In this case, the concept was largely shaped by quote, input from 14 to 18 year olds in Australia, who were giving some of their thoughts about features that might be helpful in a car. Globalist 14 to 18 year olds in Australia who were giving some of their thoughts about features that might be helpful in a car

Global is 14 to 18 year old ideas One of their ideas was a speedometer that would change its display when you're getting close to the speed limit So you'd be able to tell more precisely how fast you were driving This obviously couldn't be done because the car would need to automatically know what the speed limit was where you're driving But the idea is kind of interesting. You know, I remember back when they put it into a work in F1 cars now. I remember back when I had a, like a oldsmobile, an old car. Yeah, yeah.

Didn't have a digital speedometer for sure. The old red line. Yeah. You don't, you don't know exactly where you're going. That needle isn't precise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you used to be able to get pulled over and say, I don't know how fast I was going. And they'd be like, yeah, that's a totally reasonable thing.

Yeah, you might have been six, seven miles an hour over and that's just because of the needle. Yeah, the needle's weird. So they had some ideas, but it wasn't really a car at the cop man. The car was designed by a 29 year old guy who worked at Toyota with a concept aided by teenagers going to market research sessions

and Alex is over here on air time to act like Soros himself designed this car. He's gonna force everyone to drive one within a matter of years. It's ridiculous when you know what he's basing this bullshit on. Yeah, and I mean, it's even more ridiculous when you're like, this is a private company. They can't force you to drive this car.

No, but see, here's the thing. The government is having the private company do this in order for them to soft release all of the stuff that they're going to force on you. Sure, that's. And that's why 18 year olds introduced this in Australia. They got a lot of global estate teen year olds going to force on you. Sure, that's. And that's why 18-year-olds introduced this in Australia. They got a lot of global estate, 18-year-olds in Australia.

So many. Do they recruit younger down there? What's the, what's the age you graduate high school? Is it 14? Well, isn't the drinking age lower there? So is the global estate. So is the global estate. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So there's another story that Alex is covering on this episode. And here's where things start to get real shitty. I was about to say, this is probably where it's gonna go bad. So there's another story and it is about AIDS medication being given to children in a hospital in New York. And there's some sensational coverage of it

that Alex is doing. And so now he has a guest on to talk about this story. Oh, boy. We got a few minutes before we break. Let's just go and bring the doctor up. Dr. Razzanick, good to have you on the show. It's a pleasure to be with you. This is a hard, hard to face, but it's, I mean, there's a bunch of

different facets of this story, isn't there? Uh, yes. There's the drugs. There's the, uh, the children being treated with these drugs against their will. The children who are being taken away from their parents and put in the institutions because the parents refused to treat them with these drugs. It just goes on and on. So this guy, his name is David Razznick. And that's not a household name, but it isn't a very specific community,

namely the AIDS Denialist community. He's a big figure in the world of folks who don't believe HIV is real or that it doesn't lead to AIDS, and he's done a ton of damage to a lot of people. One of his big ideas is that anti-retroviral drugs meant to manage AIDS or HIV are actually the cause of the condition and that the real cure is some super cool, unregulated vitamins that he sells. He went so far with his big ideas to take a trip to South Africa where he would actively discourage people from seeking treatment from hospitals or clinics instead saying they

should take his vitamins. He also even discouraged people from getting tested. He was working for a company that sold the vitamins, and the capacity of running fraudulent clinical trials, aiming at proving the vitamins efficacy, which the South African government would later declare illegal. Here he is on Alex's show, discussing a story

about the child protective services, supposedly running illegal drug trials on children, all the while he is running illegal drug trials in South Africa. Also, as recently as 2006, it was reported on children, all the while he's running illegal drug trials in South Africa. Also, as recently as 2006, it was reported that he advised people that HIV quote, cannot be transmitted between heterosexuals. So this guy is an expert.

I, you know, the shittiest part about American history is that the solution is actually the problem is the oldest con in the history of, I mean, it's absurdly the solution. Nah, that's actually what's killing you. The people trying to help are hurting you. The people who are hurting you are actually the savior. Up is down. And it's all because you're struggling and in so much pain and fucked up and all that stuff.

And you'd rather, and a lot of times you aren't getting the help that people should be providing. Yep. Yep. So the underlying story here that Alex is covering is about a New York Post article involving research and care that was done with foster children being given HIV AIDS medication. They weren't given it for no reason as Alex and his guest may want to suggest these were all kids with HIV AIDS And many of them were severely ill and wouldn't have had access to any treatment outside the program due to financial hardship The whole thing gets a little bit messy So I'm gonna try and sum it up as concisely as I can this story got some traction here around this point

2004 and then in 2005 the BBC put out a special called the guinea pig kids that stirred up a lot of public concern. In response, the Vera Institute of Justice launched an investigation of the claims made in that documentary and got to the bottom of it. This all had to do with this program at the Incarnation Children Center in New York. And ultimately, 532 of these children were

involved in trials of approved medications. Like for instance, they were approved and tested, but not on children. Right. Right. Right. After, quote, interviewing dozens of people involved in the trials and reviewing hundreds of thousands of pages of case files, documents, and correspondence, the Vera Institute announced the conclusion

of their work in 2009. They found that no children died as a result of the medications they were given. They found that no foster children were removed from their families because they wouldn't consent to treatment, which you can hear RASNIC assert here. And that is one of the big things they hang their hat on in terms of their claims.

Of course. And then also, RASNick is a bad source on this stuff because he thinks that just giving appropriate medication for HIV or AIDS is actually hurting these children. So that's something that isn't even unpacked on Alex's show, which is a very important variable in terms of having this person as a guest. Yeah. So I will say the investigation did come up with some concerning points.

It's not, this story is not entirely without some criticism. Sure. For one thing, they weren't able to find the official consent forms for all of the children who participated. The New York Times does note that quote, the State Department, the State's Department of Health refused Vera's request to review medical records, which might have included some additional consents. That's an open question, and also they found

in some cases, consent forms that were handwritten, which isn't in line with policy, but could indicate informed consent was given, but pretty inappropriate way to- Any number of reasons. That's bookkeeping. policy, but could indicate informed consent was given pretty in a appropriate way to. Any number of reasons. Yeah. Bookkeeping.

No, no, no, no, that makes, yeah, I mean, that makes sense. There were some questions about this entire affair and most of it was from an admin perspective, but ultimately when all of the investigation was concluded, the claims that sensationalist assholes made about this were all found to be bogus. And so all of the stuff that they're talking about here on Alex's show and shit nonsense. Yeah. Incidentally, even before that full investigation concluded, the BBC was forced to make a big public apology about that guinea pig kid special.

They were roundly criticized for distorting facts and strangely only presenting the viewpoints of notorious AIDS denialists, it should shock nobody at this point for me to reveal that one of the experts that was interviewed on that show was David Razznick, the pile of shit who's talking to Alex here in 2004. So he is on to talk about a story that he's misrepresenting and doing a very, he's played a big role in miscovering. Yeah. And and gaining attention based on those, like, erroneous claims.

Yeah. No, I wanted to start a fight based on Guinea big, Guinea pig kids. That's a fucking disrespectful. Yeah. I mean, that's already fucked up. Well, you titled it the Guinea pig kids and you're talking about, I mean, their children already fucked up. You titled it the guinea pig kids, and you're talking about, I mean, there's children, sick with HIV. Well, yes, now, I don't know if the name is really

that inappropriate, were some of the claims to be more accurate. If it was about like a giant scandal where you were testing unknown medications on unwitting children then maybe that name would have been more appropriate but it's it's not uh... shown that that's the case that's fucked so uh... these guys was liars

a lot of the children died from the drugs and uh... of course they were and the ones that don't die are are entered uh... many people may not know this but uh... prescription drugs used Of course they were and the ones that don't die are entered. Many people may not know this, but prescription drugs used properly, already FDA drugs used properly kill 100,000 Americans every year, and seriously enter over 2 million. Now that's drugs that already passed FDA approval.

Now imagine what the unknowns are with these experimental drugs and procedures that are going on in these institutions. Now I've talked to a lot of doctors, a lot of scientists, they say that a lot of these age drugs, someone you'll be healthy, they go on them and they're dead a year later, the drugs are killing the people. Of course they are. Wow, so I guess that's actually Alex's view too. Wow.

That's wild. Wow. I mean, that doesn doesn't don't people get letters from Lawyers about this the BBC did doesn't it doesn't the attorney general have some job of like hey don't do this You're killing people you know you know what's kind of Weird along with money is that I Kind of had a sense that Alex had some of these views Yeah, and especially because like John rap a port definitely has oh yeah I kind of had a sense that Alex had some of these views.

And especially because like John Rappaport definitely has stuff, he's written books about HIV not being real and stuff. But I've not really heard, I don't think Alex be that explicit. Just straight out, all prescription medications will kill you if you take this. Well, this AIDS medications will give you the, that's what's causing the condition or whatever. It's nuts. That's so heartbreaking. Also, 100,000 people, let's say,

you know, for the sake of, let's stipulate that, that's how many people die for prescription drugs every year. Yeah. How many people would die if we just didn't have any prescription drugs? I'm Yeah, how many people would die if we just didn't have any prescription drugs? 50,000 see whoa I'd be completely different I can test that that number would be substantially higher. Yeah, I would be significantly I think this is all just

Anti-science quite frankly. Yeah, I mean it's disgusting Yeah, I mean it's disgusting. Yes, it's a lot. Ah, that's the fucking shit that That AIDS did to people. Yeah, as I mean that that anybody could not treat it with the same seriousness as The fucking pandemic is bananas to me. Well, it's not too surprising them that the same i mean you're right and the same games and more offensively to boot yeah so then i guess the met question becomes what about magic johnson what about that guy that is a good amazing and and and how come magic johnson doesn't need him he announced us that oh i don't need any of this now

well yeah i mean he he started taking the drugs i think uh... along the over a decade ago and they made it take it stop taking them and i'm sorry pretty clear that that as long as he doesn't take the drugs he's gonna stay healthy and walk around uh... he doesn't actually ever admit publicly that he is taking these drugs but he implies it you know you see these uh... billboards and uh... at the subway station san francisco in other places that give the clear implication that magic Johnson and I remember years ago, I was doing off of them.

Well, he didn't need it anymore. Well, he absolutely did because they were very toxic and he was a healthy guy. Healthy people really don't need drugs. No, and Lord, it's an...oh, stay there, Dr. Dahl. So this is a particularly insidious thing to lie about because Magic Johnson has made it a part of his career's mission to help educate the public about HIV and AIDS, and what Alex and Raznick are doing here is attempting to undo what magic has worked for. One of the big things that magic stresses in almost all of his interviews is that he is not cured, and that his condition is as manageable as it is because of the medications he takes.

He's not said that he's fine and doesn't need the drugs, but he has trimmed down on the amount of medication he needs to take and his HIV viral load is at an undetectable level again because of his medication, which he's very clear about. In a frontline interview, Magic did in 2011, exactly 20 years after he made his big public announcement about contracting HIV, he discusses his experience with medication. Magic has asked if he ever had any side effects,

and he replied, quote, I never had any side effect. I'm one of those, and I think what helped me too is I kept working out. And when it could have been tough for me in terms of that, I really busted through that tough period because I wasn't going to let it get me. So I don't know what this guy is talking about, Rask. I don't know. In that same interview, he magic is asked what some of the myths are that needed to be

dispeled about HIV. And the first thing he says is literally quote, not taking your meds, it'll be okay. Yeah. That's the first thing he says. This is complete bullshit about magic Johnson. Now, this isn't to say that, you know, I just feel like if what you're saying kills people, it's bad. Oh, Jordan.

Oh, Jordan. I think it's bad if you say things that lead to people dying of the things. Oh Jordan. Why do I feel stupid for saying that? Why does that always happen? Oh just because this next clip is going to make it worse. Oh no. Well, Dr. Ravnik, God bless you for what you're doing and God's speed. Is there any place where we can read any of your writings or anything? The internet, if you do a Google search, you'll find a lot of my name there. But one place you can go is www.duzberg.deusbeth.org.

We've got a lot of our articles on there. Duzberg.com, and we'll get a link to that on InfoWars.com and we'll link to the New York Post exposing this as well on the website. Can we have you back on sometimes, Dr. Rasmich? Of course, be happy to do it. I'd like to have you on just on the age of scam itself. All right, God bless you, take care.

The AIDS scam. So that website, doosberg.com, the Resonik is plugging and Alex is directing his audience to is the homepage of one of the world's highest profile AIDS denialists, Peter Doosberg. In the year 2000, South African president Thabo Becky convened an advisory panel on HIV and AIDS. There were 44 members on this panel and it included Peter Doosberg. Doosberg doesn't really believe that AIDS and HIV are real, and to the extent they are, it's a byproduct of drug use.

One of the primary culprits he points to is Poppers, which is really interesting because a clip was circulating recently of presidential candidate RFK Jr. suggesting that AIDS is caused by Poppers. These ideas are insane and dangerous, but they're not really as far outside the mainstream as we would like to believe. Anyway, Duseberg was the most prominent AIDS denialist on Ombekki's panel, and the government would drag their feet on supporting the use of anti-retroviral drugs, going so far as to not accept donations and grants towards that end. A study in 2008 published in the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome,

estimated that at least 330,000 deaths were attributable to that five-year delay, which was in part influenced by the panel where Doosberg was the chief denialist. Yeah. So when you're talking about things that cause death, or let's say maybe not cause death, but eliminate the possibility of saving lives, or however you want to put it.

You know, this is just another one of those things that we refuse to reckon with. Like, the AIDS crisis was an act of violence towards the LGBTQ community and nobody's dealt with that. Like nobody's dealt with the fact that governments all over the world willingly laughed because fuck it. You know, oh no, this is a disease for those people and let it and just didn't, I mean, it's fucked up. It's fucked up. And we just, nobody reckons with that, you know? And then nobody is like, oh, okay, I can't believe that we're still so homophobic

when not, without saying like, oh yeah, 30 years ago, you could laugh at people for dying of AIDS. You can just laugh at them. Be like, see, this is what you get. Yes, of course, we're a fucking hobo phobic nation. Oh, God. Yeah, it takes a while and a lot of intent to recover from that. Brutal. As a culture.

Brutal. So I hate this guy. Fucking hate this guy. The story that Alex is talking about, you know, like obviously there's a manipulation of a real story and it's far more complicated than any kind of discussion that he's having. Yeah. And the point that he's making are nonsense bullshit. But then just this guy presenting him as any kind of person you should look up to is it's unconscionable. I would rather him have pissed doctor group, you know, yeah, pissed

off on quite frankly, although I'm sure he probably has some fucked up beliefs about HIV too. Yeah, I imagine that we don't want to get any of them talking on this subject at all for any length of time. Yeah, Dr. Group probably thinks that he solves everything. Do you know what I think they think? They think that. That's that's what I can say. Do you know what I think they think they think exactly that? I don't need to hear them say it.

So Alex takes calls for the rest of the show and he also just rambles a bit. Here he is talking about how the government's putting the digital straight jacket on everybody. And then listen to the way he describes the things that are going to happen. It feels somewhat familiar to present day stuff. Folks, it isn't saying. I sound not saying it, but they said it. You know, it's like Toyota in the mainstream news in Wild magazine with cameras watching you, automatic breathalyzers, tracking you, you got a Swipe your ID card to get at the start,

retina scans, and now New York's about to pass the law. I just learned that. It's about to pass in New Mexico. I mean, it's happening. It's happening. This digital straight jacket's being put in place, and then the government's going to blow stuff up and say that there's a car group who's against microchips, and we've got to arrest anybody who's against the the chip because they're the ones that released the bio weapon and then oh now you know a million americans died from the weaponized small pots

we've all got to take the chip to prove that we're with the government as andy rune said that for nine eleven he said we should all have chips uh... so we can prove we're with the good people you folks i mean i know this is horrible this is the anti-cry system. It's all true. It's now happening These pieces are the same. Yeah, the chip is the of COVID-vaxi Yeah, the the narratives that Alex has about False flags against the power grid and stuff like that are you know thing with this, the anti-chip terrorists. You know, like, it's, nothing really changes. There's a lot of overlap and lack of creativity

in terms of the lot of this. And it sucks. Yeah, it's hard to, it's hard to really reconcile what we know to be true, which is that they just plug different words in the mad lips of things they say. Slight vary, it's jazz. Yeah, I mean, it is. It's bullshit jazz. And it's like, how is it possible

that we keep doing the same thing over and over and over again? How is it possible that they can get away with this? There's constantly new people to trick and most people don't like don't want to deal with it once they move move on to the next thing. That's true. Also just a quick reminder that Toyota story that he's talking about is the one about teens in Australia designing a concept car that never went to production and didn't have most of the features that Alex is rattling off about it. That's the evidence of the government tightening the

digital straight jacket on us, which seems like he's an overly dramatic fella here. I mean, I have a key fob to get into my car. That's essentially an ID card, right? It's not quite the same because like the stuff, if I were to play the entirety of Alex's like nightmarish view of this, it's like, not only do you have to do a breathalyzer,

it assesses the air in your car. So like if you wear too much cologne, it'll think you're drunk. Sure. And then also because a baby could like blow in your breathalyzer, it retains the skin. Yeah, of course. You have to find out if you're drunk.

Right. And then also like not Alex's paranoid fantasies, but part of this concept car was this idea of like you're talking about a key fob to get into your car. Sure. That's, you know, like an electronic entry aspect. But what they're talking about is an idea of a chip that you can put in.

So it would, like cars would be interchangeable almost. So like you would have your profile or whatever on this card. Okay. And you'd put it in. And then the license plate would digitally show your license plate. So if you, you friend was driving your car and got a ticket, there would, they would be responsible for that. You know, that would be, that would be an interesting way

to get rid of ownership of cars. Hmm. You know what I'm saying? Like drive a car, park it somewhere, and then the next person when they need a car, they'll get in the car and it'll be their license plate and they'll keep going. I think this is actually kind of a good idea.

Well, there's as long as we don't own anything. There's aspects to it that I think solve some problems and are kind of interesting, but also the implementation of it is ridiculously complicated. Yeah, that would not be possible. Yeah. But again, for fantasies, that would be a great answer. Sure.

Yeah. Sure. So Alex gets call and I think this guy has some anti-smidadic conspiracy theories he's trying to poke at. That's it. Well, Alex is trying to not engage fully. Uh-oh. I posted the Providence Journal, News 10, NBC, I mean, I didn't say it, the newspaper

said it. It said flying anything but an American flag, he will be charged as a terrorist, criticize the government, he'll be charged as a terrorist. I mean, it said it. And then when he got some heat on it, he said, I hadn't read it. I don't know why you're so upset. I mean, they're i mean they're just they're just crying anything and everything right now

i mean when in communist russia first the jews got you in the gulag then they killed you with mount attrition in disease though that the police state gulag system goes hand in hand with the death camp and become the death camp though no i think that because Hitler had death camps and put a lot of people on it including a lot of juz and then and a lot of saying that

that that you know that uh... russia was run by juz but style arrested a bunch of juz right and stalin had three juzwives and hitler with a jube that stalin killed in times more than hitler and the juzer running that program when stalin tried to kill the juz in the death camp in the Jewish doctors killed Stalin. Oh boy. I'm sorry?

Yeah. Oh boy. Pan. So you mean I don't know. I don't think Alex is up to having the debate with this guy. The Alex is going to. He got off the topic pretty quick after this. I think once you hear, well, Hitler was a Jew,

you should just be like, we are done. Yeah, that's all good. I can tell what you're about. You said everything that you needed to say, and I don't wanna say anything at all. Yeah, especially if your tone is like that. That you're a scary man. Yes, yeah.

So Alex in this next clip, he's talking about a racially motivated murder that happened in 1998 and making some stuff up. And it's pretty fucking shitty. I mean, the answer really is, is don'teter jennings and then rather and and tom brokaw and uh... and uh... the people on fox in their fake left-right garbage unless you want to know what the enemies pushing and doing and spinning uh... i mean you find the truth on the a p and roiders newswires but that stuff never gets past the gatekeepers all the reporters reporters aren't bad, they just wonder why.

I wonder why I never go anywhere. You know, the AP reporter that wrote the story about how five black men drug a white man to death in Jasper, Texas, they said, oh, we're gonna pay you back. And I call the sheriff and said, I got this AP article from January 14th, 2002. I'd like to have you on. He said, I can't come on talk about that. I'd be accused being a racist. So see, we all have this unwritten rule. And you're saying, well, what are you talking about? You

go from empanable microchips to black people dragging a white man to death so his head came off. However, point is, you all heard about him, the poor black man, Mr. King, his name, drugged a death of his head came off, and they were in prison together and gang-washed together, and it's horrible what happened to him. But five black guys drugged an old white man to death, walked down the same ship of highway, why? There's a white guy, let's kill a white a white and they do it and the whole media knows just I mean what a human interest story. Blacks kill a white on the same stretch of road. Let's not

but but the AP reporter thought well that's interesting article writes it I get the AP article no one ever reports so I call the sheriff huh not gonna come on and talk about it. So we don't talk about him. That's a smart sheriff. He knows the rules. So one of the things that I find really telling about Alex's recollection about this story is that he is exactly one specific detail. He doesn't remember the name of the black man who was lynched by being dragged behind a truck

by white supremacists in 1998. He remembers the name of John King, the white supremacist who was the ringleader of that murder. This is the person who Alex ascribes an identity to. He's the person who is personhood who isn't just a black or a white. That's not insignificant.

Alex knows who that guy is. Yeah. Yep. That murder was not due to some kind of a jailhouse fight. Alex is just lying based on the detail that King and one of his accomplices joined a white supremacist gang while they were in prison prior to the murder. It was pretty clear why they did what they did based on statements that they made after the fact and based on how they intentionally left his torso in front of a black church.

The sheriff at the time was Billy Rolls who retired in 2019 after 50 years on the force. He seems like a pretty frank guy. In 2011 he was reflecting on the media attention that he got after this murder. This guy's name was James Bird. We've talked about that in the past and that's why I'm not going into a great detail and the details of it are fucking horrific. And that's why I'm not going into a great detail and the details of it are fucking horrific. Yeah. Um, but when he was reflecting on the media attention, this sheriff rolls said, quote, you know, everybody came out here expecting to find a racist community in a redneck sheriff. A pop bellied snuff dipping beer drinking sheriff that was a bigot.

Most of that was alright, but I wasn't a bigot. That's kind of fun. All right. Yeah. Okay. I was mocking himself a little bit. That's kind of fun. All right. Yeah. Okay. I was mocking himself a little bit. Hey, I got you. I honestly have no idea what revenge murder Alex is talking about where five black man killed a white guy. And from all the digging I've done, I can find literally no evidence of this happening.

I if someone knows what he's talking about, I would be open to hearing what that is. But like I've seen interviews with Sheriff Rolls reflecting on the murder and the aftermath, and I think if there were a revenge copycat murder, it seems like a relevant part of the aftermath, but nothing like that ever comes up. I suspect that Alex read some headlines about how the town was scared about more violence occurring because the clan decided that they wanted to do a rally in Jasper, and that brought out folks like Khalid Muhammad and the new black panthers, so tensions were really high.

I have a feeling that Alex just came up with a story in his head that allowed him to minimize the gravity of this actual lynching, because he is heavily invested in not believing that racist white people exist, and if by some unimaginable fluke one does exist, they're one to one balanced out by a racist black person. Of course, the tragedy is that this lack of evidence that of this other murder happening, it wouldn't hurt the audience's faith and Alex's narrative. The lack of evidence would simply be proof of how good the cover the cover up was that Alex is also alleging is happening here

So yeah bullshit. Yeah, you know, it is He's talking like segregation is still going on uh-huh and I don't know if he thinks it's not Hard to say. Yeah, you know like the way he's talking is so George Wallace Hey, hmm like that that just woof yeah, well, I mean Do you know we go back to that example all the time but like seeing Muslim women a pool supply shop? Yeah, that like what is that other than I want them at a different pool supply shop.

Yeah. Yeah. They go to their own pool supply shop and I go to my own pool supply shop. What is he expressing other than a refusal to have an integrated society? Right. So I mean it I don't know how it would be surprising if in 2004 he had no opinions that were bordering on at least subconsciously or like, you know, under the surface were powered by ideas of segregation. I mean, that, but it's, it is so stark. It's so strange to hear it. Like, like, you, I don't, I don't think, I can't remember the last time I heard a conversation phrased in the terms of like the blacks and the white.

Yeah. A white. You know what, that is really shocking and like it's not because I'm listening to Alex, but in the real world, someone saying stuff like that would be really, really fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the moment you did that would be like, yeah.

I think that's maybe one of the deficiencies of our show is that we're dealing with Alex. Right. And so like the standards of like what would be weird socially? Yeah, that's true. So far. Just right off the back. So far gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a hard time connecting with regular people now, don't we? Yeah, I mean, like if I were critiquing him as a normal person the second he says a black or a white yeah Like no What what yeah, but we're on episode 850 or whatever we can't yeah, honestly I think I would have just turned this off when he started getting into the Absolutely fuck this guy need this

Totally, absolutely. Fuck this guy. I don't need this to be. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, so I mean, look, we got just like real bad sort of racist stuff. Yeah. We got real bad AIDS denialist stuff.

Yeah. Like, it's just, I told you, it's a bad episode. This is bad. Bad stuff. This is, you know, this is like one of those an incredibly white supremacist episode and an all like white male supremacy episode. But because it's never like out and out said,

you know, you were like, oh, well, they talked about AIDS denialism. Oh, well, they talked about this or all that stuff. But the reality is this is a white male supremacist show today. Yeah. That's what it is on a fundamental level. Yeah. And, you know, I think that on some level, the AIDS denialism even runs into that.

You know, it intersects at a certain point. No, that's what I'm saying. Because, yeah, homophobia, that's all in there. What you, you know, along with like just sort of a hatred and disregard of the LGBTQ community, there's also a, like, it's a disease of other people. Yeah. That's the, the, the way that HIV AIDS is dealt with so often by even, I don't know, probably some well-meaning people too, but also folks like Alex, is that it's the others disease.

You know, there's a stigmatizing of whether it's gay people or it's poor people or it's minorities. Wow. It's always viewed through that prism as opposed to our problem. We are dealing with this. Totally. I mean, in Europe, the syphilis was everybody else's,

if you were French, it was the English disease. If you were English, it was the French disease. It was everybody's other problem, you know, it's all these gross people from elsewhere who are spreading this disease. And it's a dehumanizing fucked up thing to do. Yeah, and I think that, you know, I mean, it sucks. I think some of that's getting a little bit better now.

I think that there's progress being made. But people are trying. But yeah, in 2004, not good. Not good. No. Hard to remember exactly how shit people were back then. Yeah. And I would imagine that there's even some voices

that are not as horrible and awful as Alex that have some un-evolved positions. I imagine myself in 2004, I would have not a great handle on things. Oh absolutely. Yeah, fuck this dude. Fuck this dude. We have one last clip here and Alex reveals how little he knows about the constitution that he loves so much because a caller is discussing about the possibility of getting an amendment into the constitution the constitution uh... that would uh... not allow same-sex marriage

and here's Alex's take okay anything else sir uh... what's your take on this uh... bush and uh... amend the constitution to protect marriage to total scan they tried the flag burning to i mean i'm not for homosexual marriage i'm not for burning flags but it you know the the freedom in america is the freedom to burn that flag uh... that's what the flag symbolizes the right to do that but uh...

it it's a red herring if we get a constitutional convention they can rewrite the whole bill of rights i guarantee you the common sorry it will be a huge terror attack during the concon and they'll throw out the entire bill of rights conconnied that's the plan he didn't mention the conconn but i think out the entire bill of rights. Concon is the plan. He didn't mention the concon but I think you know it's a joke. I mean how do you think they get a constitutional amendment? Sir. They don't have to call for a convention. Congress adopted the state. Well that's

that's what a concon is. Wow. Concon. There's an amendment in your constitutional convention. There's a difference between a convention and an amendment. conca on his while conca on the amendment the constitution of convention is a difference between a convention and an amendment no i mean to get an amendment you if you have to go to the states and once that's open the state can change everything well anyway you know that's what we get and he's only conservative like bush and Arnold that's ridiculous i like that i like him being like

wow you don't know shit. Well, anyways. Well. Well, anyways. I mean, the caller is right that Alex is wrong. Yeah. I do like this idea though that like once the con con is going, oh, that's her off. The states can rewrite everything.

It's a free for off. Yeah. Everybody steps into the ring. There's 50 free for all. Yeah, everybody steps into the ring. There's 50 states who ever, whichever state is left in the ring at the end of it. It's a, it's a constitutional rumble. Right. Yeah, you don't, you're not going to understand this fully, but it reminds me of the, the last episode of Lost.

The smoke monster can only, he can only be killed in his human form when the island is unplugged. So they have to unplug the island for a small amount of time to kill the smoke monster. And then plug the island back in. That's the con con. When they could stand the bill of rights. Lost was actually about undoing the constitution. We turn the constitution off.

Then we can all Terror depart red pen everywhere scissors and then the Constitution come back on and we're all gonna be like wait It's different now when a constitutional convention is going that doesn't mean all laws or suspended Fake now I mean I am I if what you're describing is a page one rewrite, I agree, we should be there. That's not what is not describing that. No, no, they can rewrite the bill of rent. How?

A constitutional convention involves like getting together and then people proposing amendments and then maybe voting on it, but like, that's never been done. It's not going to happen. No. All of the amendments have happened a different way. Yeah. And Alexian's unaware of that.

What is it? What is it? Three-fourths of the states have to agree on to get an amendment? Uh, they think so. Yeah, I think it's three-fourths. It's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Might be six-eighths. Could be. Uh. How far do you want to keep this going? I thought you were going to do the next, uh, P-12-16s. All right. Um, so yeah, Alex is stupid.

Doesn't even know his own like, bellywick. That's in his wheelhouse. Yeah, that should be. He should know this stuff. A, a civics class would be so useful. Oh. Like an adult. A quotes class.

And a civics class. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I would be fine if there was like a, hey, everybody on July 4th, 2025, we're all taking a civics class, we're all gonna watch it, we're all gonna agree what the constitution does and then we're gonna move forward.

Yeah. You know, I think that I think that one of the issues that we have here is that like Alex isn't smart, but he was smart for a young kid, you know? Yeah. And then he just sort of coasted on that and then never really never really worked. Nope. On stuff. I've never really learned how to think better. You never really learned how to research. Never never learned any of those things that he probably could have been

equipped with in a formal education of some sort. And now he's just kind of operating on the of some sort. And now he's just kind of operating on the like intellectual abilities of like a pretty smart 12 year old. That's I was I was literally thinking that here's what happened. He's like a like a fifth grader who would be in the gifted program. Like he's real he's real smart for a fifth grader, but he's 50. No, somebody, I, I, I, it's like, you can see it in your mind, somebody being like, wow, Alex, you're really smart. And then he stopped learning. You know, he was like, did it, nailed it.

I'm really smart now. That's all I need to do. I will be smart forever because I am smart now, right? Well, I mean, there is, there is a lot of essential nists to a lot of his beliefs. So if you are smart, you will be. Yeah. And you will always be good at everything.

Yeah, that's great thinking. That's great thinking. It certainly made him a lot of money. I mean, I wish that part weren't true. That's the part that makes me angry. But it will also lose him a lot of money. That part I like. So that part is good.

That's a good part. There is a bit of a cautionary tale, perhaps. And maybe we're just not to the part where there's the payoff, yeah, the prestige. Yeah, we got to get there. The conclusion of the story is yet to be written. It's just it's got to happen. I say have have some faith. I hope there's and faith.

It springs eternal. That faith. Not hope. So we come to the end of this and this episode sucked Alex sucks, oh boy real pile of shit. Yep, and we'll be back Wrap it up. Don't know what else to say. There's really not much else to say. Hate this dude But we website hey, do we do it's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on blue sky We are on blue sky at knowledge fight. Now underscore no underscore

No, we'll be back, but until then I'm neo on Leo. I'm DZX Clark Dooh Yeah, oh yeah, and now here comes the sex robots and the en Chan's a sure on the air thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm the first time calling him a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.