Knowledge Fight - #828: March 5, 2004

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan dip back into the past to see what Alex Jones was up to back then.  In this installment, Alex hangs out with and interviews one of his best friends, a flagrant antisemite whose name is suspiciously close to Texas Martian.

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes. Sit around. Worship with the altar of of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex June. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan Dan. I have a quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? I guess you know what this isn't so much. I don't know if this is a bright spot or whatever But we had a tornado warning we did yesterday as we're recording this yeah And I mean it was a little exciting.

You know, it was, it kind of broke up the day a little bit. It was the second tornado warning I think I've heard in Chicago. No, more than that. Really? Yeah, well, do you mean like in the last year? No, no, no, I mean like warning. I'm not like the watch thing. I mean, I can think of three times in the last like two years

that I've gone down to the laundry room. Really? Yeah. Wow. Because of sirens. Holy cow. And I know that in the years living in Chicago before that, that it never happened. Not zero.

Zero times. Yeah. It is very much happening more that tornadoes are spotted in the near, near the city area. I don't know, I mean, it is, I don't think it's a bright spot because, you know, tornadoes are really devastating and when they hit, they heard a lot of people and I don't want to celebrate that.

But there is something that kind of takes me back to when I was a kid and we go down to the basement and you know, there'd be like, it almost felt like we were hiding out and there were snacks in the basement. And there's kind of like, I don't know, there's something kind of... Candles, because of the power might go off, yeah,

the whole thing. There's something, a crank radio. Oh man, the old times. Yeah. There's something that's kind of, it harkens to a more innocent time and easier time. And I don't know why that's evoked by a tornado warning, but it kind of, it harkens to a more innocent time and easier time. And I don't know why that's evoked by a tornado warning, but it kind of is.

I think that this is something that a lot of Midwestern people who grow up in like rural Midwest really share, because tornadoes were so much more frequent. And, and like a much more present threat. Yeah, hold on. The odds of it hitting the memories of one hitting, you know, that yeah. Yeah, and at the same odds of it hitting the memories of one hitting, you know, that, yeah. Yeah, and at the same time, there was an element of like, I'm used to the tornadoes going

off. And so there was much more comfort in being like, well, let's take a look at that tornado before we go down to the basement, you know, let's step outside, holy shit. And then you go right back into the basement. Yeah, and maybe I've talked about this a little bit before in the past, but it also is something that is a fear that I overcame. Like growing up in places like who I, like there weren't thunderstorms there, really.

Right. And tornadoes and stuff. So like, when I moved to Missouri, it was something that I was preoccupied with killing me. Yeah. Like I was sure that we were moving to tornado alley. Like you knew in advance before you moved. Yeah. Oh shit.

Yeah, I don't know. I'd read some book or something like that. Right. And it terrified me. Bucket books. Yeah. And then like one of the first days we were in Missouri, you know, terrible thunderstorm. And I was, I was, you know, horrified.

Yeah. And then over the course of it realizing, you know, like you can go to the basement, there are things that you can do that can make you more safe. I think it would, yeah, it's one of the fears that I've been able to overcome. Yeah. And it fucking drives me nuts to see like nobody does anything in Chicago.

No, no, no, no, no one cares at all. There's a tornado warning and people are just like, I don't know what. What are you gonna do? We're in buildings everywhere. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, or something sure and that there's a laundry room everybody could go down there I was the only person in the laundry room Here's here's the thing though. I'm well. I'm I'm poking my head out I'm seeing just people walking their dog like what the fuck is going on as a tornado warning I have way more fear of being trapped in a basement underneath rubble than I do of being hit by tornado I'm sorry. That's not what's gonna happen. Oh, of course. Well, Oz are you're not gonna get hit by a tornado. But if you do, you bet you'd be you'd be so thankful to be trapped under some rubble. Oh, man, it's a die of thirst after two days because people didn't look for you. That's not what's gonna happen if you're in the basement. Meanwhile, if you're you're in the top floor, you're going to be

flunked. Yeah, exactly. You're to, you're going to Oz, my man. I mean, if there's anything I know about tornadoes, it's that they all take you to Oz. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I don't know, it was just a little bit exciting. Yeah. It broke up the day a little bit. Did you see any of the photos of this guy?

I did, I did, but some of them appeared to be a little bit doctorate. They had to have been. At least like the sort of exposure of it or something is to make it like pop a little more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But some of those pictures are pretty crazy. Oh, man, it looks like a 30,000 foot wave

coming over the sky to hit Chicago. Oh, man, it's beautiful. Yeah, you know, like during the day you're thinking too, like, all right, what they're talking about is a tornado that is heading towards like the loop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just the prospect of a tornado, we know towards the loop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just the prospect of a tornado, we know what that does.

Like hitting a downtown Chicago would be insane. I mean, the concept, like the damage would be catastrophic. I mean, uncalculable. I think one of the things that would make it a little bit less bad is that the buildings wouldn't allow the turning like the cyclic air to like go as far. I think that there's some element to that. Don't hold me to that.

I don't know. But anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is twofold. One, first and the first most obvious bright spot, yoga. I'm going back to yoga We we stopped going to yoga when my wife went back to school Mm-hmm and then my then when we went back to yoga my knee buckled so hard that I couldn't even do it for a while Uh-huh, and now my knee finally feels good enough We're going back to yoga. Can I have a question for you? What's that the Inquiring minds want to know about this suspicious timing that Street Fighter 6 just came out and now you're going back to yoga

People are saying the streets are talking that you think that you're gonna learn to shoot a fireball out of your mouth Well, okay now Doll seam Is not my specific teacher, but I do go to his school. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's fun.

I have some thoughts of maybe exploring some. I can use a little more flexibility in my life. I'm a bit wooden. It's, I mean, I wish it weren't effective, but it helps. It's good. Yeah. I imagine it helps undo a little bit of the tennis soreness and what have you.

So it's a good dual thing. Yeah. And then my second bright spot is that when you are listening to this, tickets probably have been on sale. Well, here's the thing. Yeah. I realized after the fact that when we said we're going to Scotland, all right, Glyas go, we didn't say any other details.

No, we didn't say the day of the show. Nope. So maybe you can fill people in on all of the relevant details. Probably a smart move. So the show is on September 25th. Uh-huh. It's at Webster's Theater, which is like a repurposed church, uh-uh, which will be interesting. That sounds fun. Uh-uh. And then the tickets go on sale at 9am

Greenwich Mean Time. Okay. So that can you- Can you, uh, lay that out for time zones, my man? Uh-uh. Greenwich Mean Time is five hours ahead of central time. If you know any other times, I mean, if you're in between there or past there. I feel like you should, you are the antithesis of Alex where he lays out 18 time zones whenever he's saying something. No, I don't. I know. I know. I know. I know central and I feel like Greenwich means probably the most relevant time zone to folks who may become. I mean, to the world, right? I guess. I don't know. Probably not not so that's exciting yeah that's very exciting tickets on sale tickets are on sale yeah yeah yeah that would be cool oh man

man oh man you're gonna get murdered I am I'm talking about I swear to you I swear to you I feel like Scott I feel like glasses go and I are going to mesh too well. I'm not coming back. And tell you keep calling them Brits and somebody takes you out. I mean, if you want to not be Brits, you had a chance. I'm not engaging with this at all. I'm not engaging with this at all.

Okay, Jordan. You're gonna die. Two chances. So that's exciting. Yeah, it's very exciting. Okay Jordan, too. You're gonna die two chances So that's exciting. Yeah, it's very exciting. I can't wait But for now we have a show to do yes, we do so today we're gonna be in the past we're gonna be talking about something in 2004 and talking about March 5th 2004 all right for a bad episode

Another bad past episode. It's bad in a different way. Okay, well that's better than I guess pure, brittle, repetitively bad. Okay, but still really bad. Okay, man, bad stuff. Oh boy. A lot of bad reading material I had to do in advance of this episode.

Right, so we'll get down to business off. What's again? What? Books again. Less, well, one book down to business on. Books again. What? Books again. Less, well, one book. Less books, more newsletters. Fair enough.

And we'll get down to business on all that. But first Jordan, let's say hello to some new walk. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, on JB, A-A-T-J-E, on T, on G, on G. On G.

On G. I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with on T. That would be an I. See, there's a J there. On T or auntie. Auntie. I'm gonna go with auntie. That would be an eye. See, there's a J there. Auntie or auntie? Auntie. You're now a policy woman. I'm a policy woman.

Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Next, the Iron Islands built an Amanda in like two days. Trust me, it does not hold up. Sincerely Charlotte. Thank you so much, you're now a policy woman. I'm a policy, by the way. Thank you very much.

It wasn't an Amanda, it's an Armada. Uh, again, cold reading. Thank you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy by the way. It wasn't an Amanda. It's an Armada Again cold reading. Thank you very much Armada. Next Fisher the swamp thing. Thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next. Hey baby girl. Let me go daddy shark on that ass Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Thank you so much you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. That's specified in your best Alex Jones impression, please. I almost took it out of there just to see if you could get there on your own. Maybe. Yeah.

And globalists made me shatter my tibia in Austria. Thank you so much, you're an out-pollesy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And good to technocrate in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much, too. My dead-be dead. listen to Alex in the early

Two thousands and all I got was this shout out on knowledge fight and therapy. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat I'm a policy walk For start the home team on the tele-efficient someone someone satamite sent me a book in a poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much.

Yes, thank you very much. Now you know it's a fun thing to think about. What? There is a chance that this person's dead-be-dead listened to this episode with them. That would be interesting. This is a 2004 episode. This could have been what sent them to therapy.

Holy shit. Yeah. Imagine if it's this specific episode and they're like, I'm reliving a nightmare. Well, I hope it's cathartic and I hope we help you get through it. Either that or maybe they're experiencing like a river runs through it kind of Breakthrough emotional experience with their father. Well, or I would worry that this person is going to think that reality is ordered around them. That is that is a concern. Yeah, that might lead to some kind of psychosis. We can't prove it's not though. So we start here in Alex announces who is going to be a guest on the show. And immediately it's up our all blown.

Coming up in the second hour, we have text Mars guest on the show. And immediately it's a parable. Blown Coming up in the second hour, we have text Mars coming on the show. And I've known text Mars for a long time. I've seen his what you could call evolution of thinking. He was an Air Force officer, professor of space and aeronautics, wrote military handbooks and textbooks and books best selling books on robots, you know, back in the 80s. Then he found out about the New World Order and the occultism and has really studied what's at the heart of it, the Satanism. And even if you don't believe in Satanism, the globalists do. This is what they're

into. And they control the Catholics, the Protest Protestants the Jews wait I mean every major group in organization is controlled by this global satanic cult I'm certain that we've talked a little bit about text Mars in the past but I thought this might be a good time to chat a little bit more about him and how what Alex just said is a damning indictment of Alex Jones and Info Wars and their entire pretentia raid about the globalists. The thing that's particularly important to point out is that Alex is saying that he's witnessed Texas evolution of thought because this indicates an intimate understanding of what Tex believes.

And keep in mind, these two are good friends. Alex has said on multiple occasions that that's the church he goes to when he goes to church. Tex performed Alex's first wedding. So like they know each other well. That would be, that would suggest so, yes. Yeah, but his understanding of text and what his belief system is, isn't a surface level thing.

He understands Texas conclusions. He understands how he's arrived at them and he endorses spreading them to the InfoWars audience. Right. The reason this is a problem is that Tex Mars doesn't believe that Satanic cult has infiltrated the Christians and Jews and everyone else. He believes that the Jews are that Satanic cult.

And if Alex knows anything about Tex, as he's presenting he does, he has to know this. There's just no way around it because Texas really upfront about this stuff. Case in point, he wrote a book called Holy Serpent of the Jews, which has this tagline on the cover. Quote, the Rabbi's secret plan for Satan to crush their enemies and vault the Jews to global dominion. This is the first line from the introduction of that book. Quote, Satan has a plan for a one-world religion and a one-world government.

This religion will be led by his chosen people, the Jews. The Holy Serpent, the beast whom the rabbis adore as Messiah, will rise up out of the abyss. He will anoint the Jews as God and destroy their hated adversaries, the Christians. He goes on to say, quote, frankly, I find that Judaism is a repugnant and loathsome religion. Judaism is a phallic sex cult based on self-worship by Jews and on the adoration of none other than the serpent. Yes, that's right. The God and Messiah for the Jews is Satan. Later in that text, he legitimately says, quote, wherever they exist, the Jews, devilish religion, toxin-producing culture, and hatred of other races and nationalities

drives them to act as destroyers. Please take my word for it that there's a whole lot more horrible, blatant, anti-Semitic shit where all this came from, and in much of Tex Mars' work. Here's where we need to loop back around to Alex's declaration that he's witnessed Mars' evolution in thought over the years. In that book, Holy Serpent of the Jews, text discusses his path through life. Alex mentions his military service being at the beginning of this path, and here's the way that text discusses that in his book.

He was in the military until 1982, and then in 1987 he published his first big nonsense book, Dark Secrets of the New Age. He says, quote, I became celebrated in chrysendum for these titles and was eventually recognized as possibly the world's foremost authority on cults and satanic religions. Editorial note, no he wasn't. Yeah. Still, I was not in the least conversant about Judaism, the real Judaism. In Texas' own words, the evolution of his thinking passed 1987, had to do with him reading

about the Kabbalah and the Talmud, and descending on a path that led him to the revelation that the Jews were behind a satanic push to create the new world order. This is the evolution of Texas' thinking. There's nothing else that Alex could possibly be pointing to that makes any sense. It's worth pointing out, just in the name of total fairness, that Texas got a lot more explicit in his later years. And 2004 is prior to the publication of the Holy Serpent of the Jews, and some of his worst stuff.

But it would be absurd to pretend that he wasn't on this page by this point in time here in 2004. Yeah. Later on, he's substantially more hostile in the way that he speaks, but as early as 2002, I can find his newsletter publishing Long Screeds text wrote about how the Jews are behind the New World Order, but at least at this point, he was trying to softplay the whole thing. And he says, quote, yes, I do forgive the Jews. The Jews live and work in unbelief, having for so long been taught lies about Christians and about Christianity by their rabbis and leaders. This is both tragic and poignant for by rejecting Christ, the Jews are embracing the evil one who opposes Christ. Satan is

no doubt thrilled over the prospect of bringing so many Jews down to hell for eternity, but as for me, I am saddened, my heart aches. At this point, text has the perspective you might sum up as the Jewish leaders are the ones who are behind the New World Order, but not every Jewish person in the world is in on that conspiracy. He would later espouse that all Jewish people were in on the conspiracy. At this point, you know, this is where he's at. In this very newsletter titled, quote, my heart aches for the Jews, text opens with this, quote, what a tremendous spiritual struggle I've undergone

in the past six months. As I studied in research, the scriptures and burned the midnight oil, preparing my two latest videos, often my heart would almost reach a breaking point, how my heart aches for the Jews. This is identifiable as the point where Texas Views went from coded anti-Semitic shit couched as New World Order conspiracy theories and things like promoting the protocols of the Elder Giants into direct and overt anti-Semitism.

If you look through a number of his newsletters, you get the sense that this here in about 2002 is about where things take a hard shift. But Texas only dipping his toes into the pool. He's not diving straight into that shitty water that he'd eventually swim in. By 2003, Texas was preaching about how the quote, Jewish neocons were quote, covert enemies of the United States of America. In one of his sermons from August 30, 2003, text even said that Bush's actions in the war in Iraq were dictated according to what his Jewish controllers told him to do. Quote, even Saddam's two sons, Kudai and Usay were isolated and slaughtered according to Jewish ritual. We can be sure that the all-seeing eye of the Jewish Illuminati carefully watches over the White House

and President George W. Bush. He's making an argument that like different days were chosen to do different things because of Jewish ritual traditions. Sure. So what he would prefer is that they slaughtered them in a Christian ritual? I guess. Okay. So my point here is this. TechSmartz definitely did have an evolution. slaughtered them in a Christian ritual? I guess. So my point here is this, text Mars definitely did have an evolution.

And it's one that he's completed by March 2004 when he's on this episode with Alex. He's a completely devoted anti-Semite who believes that the Jews are behind the New World Order and the push for one world government. It isn't this charade that Alex likes to hide behind about how the globalists infiltrate all groups equally and Jewish people are just one of those groups. That may be how Alex wants to present his brand, but that's not what Tex believes, and

based on Alex's words, he has absolutely zero reason not to know that. The fact that Alex doesn't want to bring up this belief that his guest has can really only lead me to one conclusion. He knows that it would turn off the audience, and if the audience is turned off, they will immediately reject texts. If they're led to believe that he's not a bigot in this interview with Alex, they may approach his definitely anti-Semitic material with a greater willingness to accept it as not anti-Semitic, come into with an open mind.

Alex is trying to troge in horse anti-Semitism, and that's the best, most generous explanation that I can come up with, and he doesn't deserve it. Based on the guests that we've seen in this 2004 stretch, whole lotta Nazis, let's say. Whole lotta folks, we don't believe in the Holocaust. Yeah, yeah, man. I don't. Is that his real name? I think so. That sounds made up.

Tex Mars. It's also T-E-X-E. Oh, that's even more annoying to me. And Mars is spelled M-A-R-R-S. Oh my God. That's the worst fancy authors. That's a sci-fi authors terrible naming convention. That's very frustrating. Well, we mentioned this on the last time we talked about him, I'm sure, but him and his wife,

one of the books they wrote together was choosing the best name for your dog. So he's written, before he went down all this path, he wrote a number of other things that were completely unconnected to this bullshit. It did feel like even Alex's introduction was copy and pasted from the documentary unconnected to this bullshit. It did feel like even Alex's introduction was copy and pasted from the documentary that's like,

at first it was going a long time. And then he started learning about the new world order. Yeah, but Alex is still hiding. Yeah, you know, he's still, he's still, you know, putting the ball behind his back. Yeah, well, I mean, I, I, I mean I Sometimes it's really just annoying

To hear these people even if you agree with them. You're like this is too much What do you mean you shouldn't write a whole thing about it? I don't need to listen to all of this I think the people who agree with him like to hear all that. Oh, I understand where you're coming from. It's a long. I didn't even read the whole book. See it? Or all the newsletters.

This is what I'm saying. I love that you're the one who's complaining that it's too long. And I'm the one who read these things. So I'm theoretically complaining that were I to be part of my behalf. And I appreciate that. Absolutely. That is what I'm doing. So Alex talks a little part of my behalf and I appreciate that. Absolutely, that is what I'm doing. So Alex talks a little bit about what they're going to get into. We'll talk about Scullin' Bones and George W. Bush and Kerry with text.

In fact, a decade ago, text was the only other author to write a detailed book about Scullin' Bones. Now, it was just him and Anthony Sutton. Now they're, I don't know, I've probably seen 15 different books from Scullin' Bones out there. Oh man, I wonder what they're gonna talk about with Carrie and Scullin' Bones. A few weeks after this episode, text published newsletter titled, quote, the Order of Scullin' Bones, which has an entire section with the heading, quote, Carrie's concealed Jewish heritage.

Which seems slightly off topic, but used to tiny bit. That's wild. Text discusses how Carrie's grandfather came to the United States from then, Czechoslovakia, and quote, set up shop with fellow Jews on Wall Street and soaked up a fortune ripping off hapless Gentile clients. And then, text goes on another bit of a side track, quote, my investigation shows that Teresa Heine's

the wife of John Kerry is also Jewish. Apparently, this led him to the conclusion that, quote, for some reason, the Illuminati has decided that it is time. Time for many formerly hidden Jews to come out of the closet. I feel like this article was supposed to be about Scotland bones, but it's actually about how mad text is that someone with Jewish heritage might become president. Yeah. Well, we'll see if Alex gets into those feelings that Text has when he has him on the show. Yeah, it does feel like he's more interested in

one thing than he is in the title. I didn't even get into the part of that article that is weirdly about how Wesley Clark apparently also has a secret Jewish heritage. I genuinely was waiting for you said Wesley and my next thought was like, if he says Snipe, this is going to be the weirdest or ever. Yeah. From Star Trek. From Star Trek, yeah. Right.

Yeah. Newed next generation. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. So Alex has to kill a little time before text comes in. So he complains about how easy it is for undocumented immigrants to get ideas. all right all right so Alex is to kill a little time before text comes in so he

complains about how easy it is for undocumented immigrants to get id of course and i remember seeing years later the statesman article that uh... immigrants get a waiver from showing their uh... bursartific at nid you just walk in of your any legal of the dps and say i'd be my eat My name's you know Francisco Whatever and boom you're in Starting to get this folks if this is truly the case then why doesn't everyone just pretend to be an undocumented

Immigrant and get themselves and I would I would rather do that than go through the other way It sounds way easier than the whole process and if you come out the other side of the exact same ID, what's the point? Do these places require you to prove that you're an undocumented immigrant to get the undocumented immigrant treatment? Like how would that work? That is, well, you bring your undocumented ID

in order to get your documented ID. And that is a one-to-one process because your documented ID is just a picture. Now, Alex might be getting, you might be skipping over a bunch of stuff with the idea that there's a waiver, like maybe there's a whole process that that waiver entails.

That's possible. Because maybe sometimes, like just for instance, if you're like a refugee who comes over, you may not have a lot of documentation because you've had to like flee your home country. Right, right, right. It may have burned in a fire documentation because you've had to like flee your home country. Right. Right. Right. Right. It may have burned in a fire in someplace like Czechoslovakia. So maybe you have to get a waiver and you go through a whole process.

That isn't maybe that's something that he's pretending is just walking into a DMV and being like, my name is Francisco. Whatever. I mean, but even then, we all know that that paperwork is as impossible as they can fucking make it. I would assume so, having not been through the process. I would assume they were fucking you. I assume it is way harder than walking in and being like, blah, blah, blah, give me an ID. No, yeah, that's not possible.

Yeah, but it stokes the racist fears, xenophobic fears that Alex and his audience, Gore John. Yeah. So Alex goes to calls and it immediately goes bad. Well, let's go to him quickly. Who's up first in Canada? Reds, go ahead. All right.

Yes. Listen, I'll tell you I've been listening to you guys for about a year and a half, right? Yes. And I think it's time for us just to make a date, you know like you are on the radio you have a lot of listeners everyone's waking up right And I know what my friends are waking up and we're sick and leaping tired of this bullshit Okay, so we're gonna let you go You know this broadcast is not a place to Who act like an idiot and your band from the show. Yeah, no potty mouth. There's a family show.

Family show. There's a family show. Flash forward to Alex. You fucking fucking fuck. Absolutely. It's like I mean, this is, that's wild to hear. And the way he said it to the scolding adult ass tone, fuck you.

Feel your fucking hair. How dare you? Excuse me, sir. This is not the place to act like an idiot i like this is a denny his brand is a little different at this point yeah i can see that little different yeah so text comes in and uh... the start up the conversation uh... talking about scullin bones as you might expect good to have you with a scullin bones we have a scullin bones can't see

uh... i mean really no choice at all well that's right because and no matter who we vote for uh... the two major party to give us the skull and bones but i think that's very interesting you know you and i've always warned people that but there's not a dime for the difference and the two of political party

and certainly when you really get down to the record other than some very subtle a meaningless distinctions between bush and carry uh... they both the same for the same new world order plant-formed on the uh... man this not a lick a difference between bush and carry their both and scullin bones or at least that least that's what Texas saying on this radio show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Things might sound different in his newsletter. It does feel like he is a lot more explicit in other places. Quote, yes, it does seem a certainty that whether Bush or Carrie are next president will be a bonesman. He may be a Jew too, and his vice president may be a Jew. Two Jews who once claimed to be Gentiles. So what's the big deal?

Why does it matter? Well, you history buffs may recall that in 1917, two closet Jews named Lenin and Trotsky vaulted to the leadership of the Russian Empire, and Empire then among the world's great superpowers. They and their Jewish henchmen went on to imprison torture and kill some 66 million Christians and other enemies of Jewish Zionism. The Soviet gulags run by Jewish common-dance dorked the Nazi concentration camps in size and deadliness. Could this happen again? This time in America? You better believe it.

Can. You better believe it, can. I-okay. Slight difference in messaging. I-I mean, I just can't help but read that and go, slight difference in messaging. I mean, I just can't help but read that and go, if you are telling the truth about this, I wouldn't need to hear it from you. I would already know that.

Well, that is a not unknowable thing. Sure, you know. And just to be clear, when he says the vice president part, that's because he was assuming that Wesley Clark would be his vice president, not John Edward. Right, right, right, right. But yeah, man, little different, little different tone there, because you've got two different audiences. Yeah.

You don't want to scare off the normies who might be listening to Alex's show on the radio with your ranting about how John Kerry is a closet Jew. I know, and it's so crazy. You know, like we were talking on the last episode, you know, people can have a completely separate conversations to each other because the words have no meaning. You know, in this idea of like, if you're talking about text and the audience, yes. If you're talking about text and Alex, I don't believe that.

No, no, no. I was talking about on our last episode, we were talking about how ice cube and, I'm saying comparing that to, Oh, text and the audience. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, the audience can listen to that and hear like, we are ruled by an aristocratic class of rich people that are owning the government. And you're like, yeah, man, I can get along with that. But if you were like, hey, they're old Jews,

that'd be like, nah, I don't think we're gonna stay there, man. Yeah, I'm not gonna look further into your information. You're a bad human being. Yeah, but I think that that is possible and the sort of one way conversation and the audience's response in their head to it. Right. I think that is possible between Alex and Tex.

I don't believe that. No, no, no, he knows, he knows what he believes. Yeah, Alex knows, I was talking about between the two of them. Yeah. So in this next clip, Tex gets excited about accusing the Jews of DSI. Which is hot topic at this point because of passion of the christ of course

that's right and the conversation that's going around about that male Gibson is greatly criticized by the liberal jewish organizations for his movie how dare you they that the jews killed jesus how dare you uh... report what the Bible says?

That New Testament, that horrible New Testament, the Jews say, why how dare you to do that? That's a lie. Why we never had anything to do with Jesus then. But even the people saying these things, these hypocritical Jewish organizations, such as Foxman, ZDL, the Simon, V.S. All Center, and all the rest of them.

They know that their very own holy book, the Jewish Palmud, the Jewish Palmud itself brags and says, hey, we Jews killed Jesus. He got what was coming to him. He was a blasphemer. So they, and those would say he's very good on the little bit of seminary classes but doesn't matter about killing uh... jesus but if you you a christian go out and say it like ever male gibson put it in a movie

they want to hang you so this is this is hypocrite uh... hypocrisy taken to a perfect stream level well i mean what it is is double thing not really no, so what's interesting about this is that like Alex and You know Mel Gibson will try and you know sort of tiptoe around it and be like the movie doesn't it's not saying that the juice killed Jesus whereas Texas like you better fucking believe it does yeah Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Which is, and also you may notice

that he's citing the Talmud, and that is the basis for all of his later, like aggressively universal hatred of Jesus. And so he's already on that tip, you can tell. Yeah. I mean, the problem, the problem really, if he actually believed this was a justification, which he fucking doesn't. It's all stupid.

It's bullshit. It happened quite a while ago. You can't still be mad. You can't. Here's the break problem though, if you start saying that, A, because you killed this person, we can hate you forever, I think they'll find that Christians have plenty of those people in their past. And if you're going to justify it, you have to accept that other people can

and should use it against you. Well, I mean, the twist of it for text, the way you'd get out of it, is that like, Jesus is the only true savior who has ever come. And so that is- I say that about my guy. Right, I understand that, but he says he's right. Okay, I say I'm right. So we can kill each other, and that's fine. Yeah, you have to agree that if I you. But you are 100% fine with that But my killing of you would be righteous and your killing of me would be a heretical murder

I mean I wouldn't care you'd be dead I understand what you're saying, but you're you're coming at this with the point of like, text has to accept this. And I'm saying he doesn't. No, no, I mean, I understand that he won't. You, I does. Turnily believe he needs to accept that to be logically consistent, but I'm saying that he does not. No, no, no, I mean, I don't mean that.

What I mean is that if he is going to say that, then it doesn't matter whether he says I accept it or not. On a certain level, he believes that to be true, which doesn't matter what he says to me. No, not on a certain level. He does not have to believe that to be true. Because he would work his way around it by saying it is such a unique, different thing. Right, right, right. I'm not talking about the way he works around it. Do you know, I'm talking about the fundamental idea. I guess, but I disagree with you.

No, no, I understand. We're kind of talking around. I'm saying that he has a built-in reason to never believe any of the things that you were saying that makes sense on paper. Right. 100%. I'm just saying that the fundament of that belief is you killed a guy so I get to kill you. External from him is head, that makes sense. In his head, he never has to believe that he does not have to,

fundament or not, he does not. I mean, he says that it's cool to keep. So leaving this aside we're not gonna make any progress on this uh... uh... alice as a absurd thing to say that is that uh... tech supports is real you know that's the amazing thing is that i you know sorry you you've written a lot of books for you you know supporting israelan

and and and i've never been you know uh... a supporter of uh... of uh... of uh... of of of of Jewish people i support everybody but the bible i mean i read the bible it's all about the profit saying you're bad you're gonna be punished if you don't follow god's orders and uh... you don't deserve this land unless you're following it and then now it's more today into you support whatever happens even if the anti christ himself goes from europe sets up camp there you've got a worship him or you're not supporting israel

but the thing is that i've got it and and we we want to help the two and he only helped people when you tell the truth yikes wow so it's pretty rich for alix to be claiming the tech supports israel right around the time of this episode techs wrote an article for his newsletter titled quote since nineteen forty eight has amer America been blessed or cursed?

You decide. As you might guess, the premise is that the US has been cursed because this is for this. What specifically happened in 1948? That would be Israel. Yeah. The evidence he offers is a list of quote, plague and evils ravaging America since 1948,

including, but not limited to witchcraft, all right, homosexual depravity, music vulgarity, what? Antichrist lobby groups, fiendish movies, and people getting tattoos. In case some people didn't get the message, he wrote another article around this time for his newsletter titled,

quote, America has been on a downward spiral since Israel's founding in 1948, is America cursed by God. Here's a little section from that one. To hear the preachers and politicians, one would think that America is God's beloved. A nation chosen and kept special by him because its citizens and culture are so very wonderful, so very moral and divine. But that's not at all what God has told me to tell Americans. Yeah, that line was a little...

Yeah, that line was a little... Hmm. Okay. For months now, the Holy Spirit has urged me to come right out and continue to preach the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So dear friends, here it is, unvarnished and without garnish, devoid of embroidery. America is one of the two most cursed nations on earth. Okay. You can guess what the other country is?

Ah, boy, I'm gonna go with Yugoslavia. Wrong. Ah, shit. You wanna try again? Israel? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Text argues that God is punishing the U.S.

because, quote, our citizenry and its leaders never cease in providing aid and comfort to ungodly Israel and to unrepentant Jews who are a vowed enemies of God. This is around the time of this interview. Yeah. So, okay. I feel like Alex should ask texts about this.

I imagine he won't, because that's not the kind of interview that this is. This is an interview meant to make the audience like texts, not to make the audience actually understand what he's about and what he believes. Yeah. I mean, listen. Hmm. God has really lowered the bar on plagues since Egypt.

If one of them is called the music vulgarity. Music vulgarity. That's not good. The Pharaoh's not gonna let you free on music vulgarity, God. What about this witchcraft? Witchcraft, I mean, listen, again, until you say that they can actually do stuff.

Right, I can't handle it. That seems to be the premise, right? Yeah. I mean, if they can, if they have witch powers, I'm on their team and not yours, because they have witch powers. It's not complicated. Also, there was no homosexuality before 1948.

Not one time. No vulgar music. Nope. No fiendish movies. No tattoos. Well, I mean, you know, big band jazz was difficult to make musical care. But they found a way to call it vulgar. That's true. They really did. Those goddamn horns. Yeah. The horns are too sentient. They're too much. Yeah. Those drums are louder than they're supposed to be that jungle rhythm encouraging evil thoughts I hate buddy rich oh boy so not not to you know put to find a point on this but Alex has learned a lot from text well let me enter in briefly with this because this

is key and I learned this from you you have a copy of how much shmets powers, a political retrospective written by the German Chancellor before Helmut Kohl, that's in my film, Dark Secrets and Cybohemian Grove in the intro that I helped research out of your library, and I'm indebted to you for that text. That's not good. That's not good. That's not good.

He's got major libraries, men and powers. That's a bad library. And he says, I'm a member of the CFR, Tarlater will commission, Bill Berberg group, we're the world government people, he wrote this, okay? Okay. And he says, we have our own ceremonial druid groves. And this stuff comes from Germany,

but he says my favorite place to do the ceremonies is in Northern California at the Bohemian Grove. Sort of misrepresenting that text, but the more important thing is that Alex has been informed of major pillars of his worldview from text. And he researched for dark secrets Bohemian Grove in Texas Library, they're intimately connected.

You know, like this information stream is connected. Yeah, I feel like if I went into that library, I would have a full on like horror movie, like, oh, no, no, it's coming from all sides. You know, like it would be, it's a, it's a hellish place. I think I would love it. Of course you would. But that's just because I, I mean, first of all,

I'd steal almost all of it. Yeah, well, of course. I would pillage that library. Yeah. Because I imagine he's got some stuff that like, is almost impossible to find. Oh, totally. But is really revealing of some of how these thoughts

and like ideologies form. And so like some of the, some of the ideas that, you know, you go to a mainstream library, you're not gonna have access to these materials. I bet that dude has bound copies of manifestos and shit I I would imagine like newsletters and you know some of the stuff from before The internet and in cyclic pd Britannica. He seems like a guy who's got the full volumes. Yeah, yeah, somebody came to his house Probably as in karta. Yeah, totally. We know that Alex is in karta boy

So John Kerry, you know, he was scullin' bones sure and here's where we find out how he got picked for that yeah totally we know that Alex is a cardaboy so uh... john carry uh... you know you was calling bones sure and here's where we find out how he got picked for that then they went to get the how are they chose it it wasn't because carry uh... was such a great student that i know i was so popular whatever after all i did it well he's john forbs carry i mean he's got a pedigree

he that he does indeed and and of course his grandfather now we know came over from uh... checkers of ock you know jewish and i found it a wall street firm a wall street banking firm then uh... john carry's father became a very high level american diplomat and the state department carry out the comes from a common is background all of these people

and the carry bloodline were indeed market that's how jute there's no doubt about that in my newsletter this month i have a picture and i've seen into numerous times of john k Kerry giving the communist fifth, fifth, uh, fifth, uh, clenched salute.

It's just like that. Yeah. Just like, hooray. Yeah. We did it. Yeah. Man, communist fist bump. I'll tell you what, I have watched Ruffin Adal and he is the most communist human being

I've ever seen. Well, I mean, it just makes me think of the, uh, the terrorist fist bump. Yeah. With Michelle Obama and Brock. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is a little too much for On Alex's show. Like him. Once you say bloodline, we're in trouble.

A bloodline of communist Jews. Yeah. Powerful communist Jews. Yeah. Like, if I were listening and I were one of Alex's audience members, I would start to notice that this seems to have a lot to do with the Jews. For somebody who Alex is presenting as like, you know,

all of these groups have been co-opted by the globalists, the new world order, it seems like a lot of focus on one particular group here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and and he and it's not because I cut out all the parts where they were talking about Muslims or something. Yeah, no, and Alex can't, Alex can hide and do it obviously behind. He does. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah. I mean, behind so much of this bullshit because he can be like like it is groups. The moment you say bloodline, you're saying it's deterministic and there's nothing you can do about it.

And you believe that even if you say like, oh, no, no, we can do it. You believe that. This communism's in my blood. It's blood. Yeah, if it's a bloodline shit, you're fucked. Also, man, John Kerry, communist. I just, I just don't know what to do. So we got the Hagellian dialectic in conversation here. Tex is going to discuss the way that a hate crime law in Idaho got passed.

Sure. And I'm gonna give you this warning, but I'm going to bleep it out of the episode. Text drops a hard N word. Oh my god. Oh fucking shit. Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's in a context that is like someone who is maybe a bit racist would be like, ah, come on. Alex doesn't baton. I there's nothing that he got mad at that guy for saying bullshit. Yeah. And this just this just flies wild. But yeah, here you go. Enjoy the hey, Galeon dialect. They need to opposing side to have

conflict and to create chaos. And then they come up with a solution which is the synthesis. And so, you know, I remember some years ago, up in the state of Oregon, I believe it was, no, I'm sorry, Idaho. The state legislature was considering whether to pass a hate crime act and it would have limited free speech, Alex. Well, it was not going to pass the senate the state senate committee and either of it didn't have a uh... you know a prayer to pass until the area nation's guys showed up

only about six or seven of them they got off the army back of some uh... were were two circles army truck they had on their black arm bands and their nazi brown uniform brown shirt and went around given the Nazi sleuth saying You know we're gonna raise hell if this hate crime act as fast. We hate Jews and this is what they said, okay? Well anybody's saying that what would you want? I'd want that hate crimes act then I mean these terrible Nazis saying the N word and And saying they want to kill all Jews. I mean if these people are around everywhere

and here they are right in the capital city of Idaho given the Nazi salute there's only a half dozen of them of course, the Aryan nation. I mean the very next day there was an editorial by a Jewish man head of some Jewish organization that was unknown his name is like gold stain or something and he blasted the area nation I think it was the what he he he said this is proof that we need to pass this hate crimes act right away and everybody said we'll see there a group startle like the a.d.l. is against this and in as far for the hate crime act. Now the Idaho Senate ended up passing that act. Public pressure made them do it.

It was only belatedly that somebody did a little research in the I.D.O. the Idaho Observer News Paper, if I can recall, come to find out mr. Goldstein of this Jewish organization had the same mailing address as the area nation no don't don't twist okay that story is true that's an absurd story yeah but it's a fun way for Texan Alex to pretend that the hate groups whose messages they support aren't real interestingly when I tried to find a story about Idaho and the area nations, and someone named Goldstein, all I was able to pull up was a 1986 article about the area nations Congress being held in Hayden Lake, Idaho, and this quote about radicalizing locals

from one of the group's leaders. All we had to do is to convince a man who's been on the wrong end of a foreclosure sale that he's the victim of a conspiracy by Jewish bankers. He loses his farm, one that his family has maybe had for a hundred years courtesy of someone at the bank, someone called Goldstein or Greenberg. He's not going to be too terribly happy with the Jews for that, is he? And that's where we move in. On a fundamental level, the tactic being described by this area nation's leader isn't too

different from what Texas is doing here. They're both taking a thing that is seen as unpopular and blaming its existence on the Jews. Texas saying that there's a desire to pass this hate crime legislation that would restrict free speech, and the only way they were able to get it passed is by having a Jewish group pretend to be an anti-Semitic racist hate group, which would then protest itself. The Jewish group was playing both sides in order to restrict free speech. If you take what Texas saying seriously at all, this is indistinguishable from neo-Nazi

stormfront type rhetoric, it's honestly shocking that this kind of stuff is not more what's defined Alex's legacy. Yeah. You know, really when we're in this 2004 stretch, it's been rough with anti-Semitic shit and like weird guests who are deeply problematic, not like somebody, like I would put them as more problematic than even like Mike Surnovitch or Jack Pasobeck. Totally. Like these types of people are deep in the shit.

Yeah. And it's wild to me that this isn't what he is characterized as. Now, granted, I think a lot of people don't know who he is, people in mainstream life. Sure. Don't have occasion to know who he is or maybe they've heard of him in passing as like the guy who lost a billion dollars

who are lying about Sandy Hook people. And I don't think that that is an undeserved legacy either. No. Um, but it is surprising to me when I go back and I listened to this, this era that like, you know, when 2009 came along, you know, 2010, whenever there was a slightly rising awareness of who Alex was and his his star was rising that this wasn't like an anchor on him like it should be I mean you know it's kind of fascinating because texts made an interesting point which is if the Aryan nation hadn't showed up the bill would have passed.

No, you're saying they wouldn't have passed. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he's gotten what he wanted. Right, right. So what he's saying is essentially that we should have let Idaho be as racist as we are by not doing anything. So does that mean that the best way to get what you want is to do nothing? Well, but at the same time, in this instance, obviously they have the same mailing address, this Jewish group that Goldstein is working for and the area nations are the same group right so uh... in this instance

the doing nothing isn't an option for him because he's pretending that the area nations doesn't really exist right there a fabrication of this Jewish group right that came to town because this hate speech bill wasn't going to pass and they needed to restrict free speech right and so they played uh... the role of both ends, both sides. Right. Yeah. So doing nothing isn't really an option for him because this is being done to them.

Right. Right, right, right. Hmm. Yeah. Fascinating. Not really. I mean, yeah, in some level, I guess the thinking of it is interesting. Yes.

It is a strange way of getting to an idea. Being able to get there is interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's weird. It's upsetting. Yeah, it's real upsetting. And the idea of just being like, Hey, listen, we know why people join cults and religions and all of this shit.

We'll just do that when they have something bad happen. We'll say that it's their fault. And then there are ours. That's fascinating fascinating so Alex has something that comes to mind hearing this story from text i mean text i found that over and over and over and over again i mean when when we went down to the capital to try to beat off a bunch of you fight back a bunch of uh... gun builds and incomes the local gun group guy and he's got two black guys with him and they march about they go where black we're evil we're dangerous we'll kill

ever you know we're dead we shoot people you know you better band guns and then they trot the guys out there he's playing him and I got video of this. Wow. Paid him and Chris $100 bills and then they just you know that video this well patum and chris uh... hundred dollar bills and then they just you know just talk to me in normal english all of a sudden they the line where they get a you know what guys uh... uh... that i had you know we just got paid walked out and left

and the paper calls me goes mr. Jones or you racist you yet it's done i'm trying to avoid you show them being paid off and the capital uh... ethics board was saying this is criminal What happened? But the paper was discussing is Alex Jones racist But but the point is is they have staged events don't they text? Absolutely they do. I've seen that video Alex is not conveying this incident accurately at all For one thing the testimony that's given is completely different than how Alex is portraying it

It's a guy from a group called young Texans against gun violence For one thing, the testimony that's given is completely different than how Alex is portraying it. It's a guy from a group called Young Texans Against Gun Violence. He's a black dude from Houston who's telling the committee that one of the sources for guns in his community is gun shows, where you can get weapons far more easily than through license dealers, and that this contributes to the violence that he lives in. Talking about how people who are on this council board don't see things internally. They're seeing the situation from an external perspective.

That's what he's talking about. He's not saying that we kill people, we shoot people, we're dangerous. It would be a very strange thing for him to say. That is a racist way for Alex to convey this person's testimony because Alex is a fucking racist. Yeah. Second, there's three men with this lawyer, not two.

Alex is misremembering that. The video itself doesn't show the lawyer paying off anyone, but it appears to pick up just after the three men were given some compensation. They're really clear that this was repayment for travel expenses, not a payoff for their testimony. I do believe that Alex would take issue with anyone, white or black, testifying in favor of a gun bill, but he probably wouldn't have been there or noticed these guys if they weren't black. That's true.

I think there is a racist element in the play here, but it's not exactly the one that Alex is defending himself from. Yeah. But I do think it's racist shit. Another thing that's important to point out is that Alex is accusing this lawyer in the video from deep in the past of working for George Soros, which is where the payoffs are coming from. He says that Soros has taken over the media and he's playing around with a bunch of anti-Semitic

tropes. That's why this particular incident comes to Alex's mind. Texas just relayed a story about his belief that a Jewish group created fake racist groups to fight with so they could pass a hate speech bill. And in response, Alex tells a story of when he was accusing a Jewish billionaire of paying off black men to act scary so they could get a gun bill passed. These two guys, Alex and Tex, are really playing far more similar games than it might at first appear. Yeah. What they're doing is in concert. Yeah. Yeah. Boy.

Yeah. The, the, the, oh, the whites are under attack. Oh, just always. But even beyond that, what they're describing is strategically and based, like it's fundamentally the same. Yeah. These two stories that they're telling are they follow the same pattern. Yeah. These two stories that they're telling are they follow the same pattern.

Yeah. And that pattern is Jewish groups doing false flaggy type stuff in order to pass legislation that's aimed at taking away your free speech or taking away your guns. Like that's what those two stories are. They appear slightly different, but that is fundamentally what they are. Yeah, I just struggle with this concept of like... But why would you do that? This is not how you get things. I'm mad. I'm mad at the thought process because that doesn't make any goddamn sense.

And also, what you're saying- Especially because free speech is still intact and so are gone right now. I mean, but what you're saying is that the people who are portrayed as bad people are the ones that I agree with entirely. Like, you're saying that this bill wouldn't get passed if it weren't for black, right? Those people who showed up are the ones who don't want the bill to be passed. So you agree with them fundamentally. And that's a racist law. Well, yeah, but they're not real. But the law is red. The law is a bill.

No, I get it. It's a little bit self-condemning in some ways. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and put on a whole pageant, Hageleon dialectic. Right. Yeah, but otherwise, yeah, I agree with that. I agree with the bad guys. Right, right, I mean, that's a really crazy thing to say is because that's admitting that, I mean, you're not going to take the payoff, right? Because you're too good. Right.

But, yeah, you'd take the payoff. Maybe. Yeah. So, while TechSmartz has a kind of silly thought here Yeah, you'd get you take the pay off maybe. Yeah, so wild tech Mars has a kind of silly thought here that I don't think is as hateful as a lot of the things he says just kind of silly. Okay. In this article you've written that we've got a link to at prismplanted.com. You talk about John Forbes Carey in his

initiation and then he's brought before the master told a bow to the master And he says it's the human leader of stone bones. What was this mysterious hooded figure in fact the one who meant fear and quiver before Good question real quick. This is the same article that later gets into John Kerry's secret Jewishness, right? Alex is reading from that article so he knows so he knows where the final part is Yeah, yeah, could this be losing for himself? very secret Jewish right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right uh... and some down is neophyte uh... you know this is an occasion of of a celebration of death these uh... young men lay on a coffin they're initiated uh... as i explained very carefully my book or majesty the the scullin of bones itself is a symbol of death

and the acts under the uh... skull the way the uh... the bones are placed in the form of a act goes all the way back to oceros the god of the way the bones are placed in the form of an X goes all the way back to Ocerus, the god of the underworld, the god of death of ancient Egypt. So I can believe, although I have no idea, to be honest with you, I've only got speculation from certain 40s that it might literally be Lucifer himself who comes down once a year. This sounds so popular. On the other hand, some people have speculated it should be George Bush senior, Herbert Walker, who is now considered one of the patriarchs of Scullin' Bones.

Yeah, Ors Aiton shows up once a year, like Santa. What is- what is a year to the devil? Well, it's because the initiation ceremony over year at Scull and Bones. He's gotta be there to preside over it so people can bow before him. I mean, I just feel like that's not a productive use of his time if he's also trying to end the human race.

Well, a day to God is a thousand years. A day to the devil is like 300. He has a slightly different time. Right, right, right. He's on a like God's base 10 system. Right. And the devil's more of a binary. I don't know.

Yeah. All right. You had a trouble with the devil coming down. I just appreciate the devil's coming down. Well, you went down to Georgia. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He's saying in the same devil went down to scull them both.

He was looking for an initiate. He was way behind and sick of the bullshit. Oh, man. Jesus Christ sick of saying, but this is a family show. Well, I've got to write another devil went down to Georgia, so I'm apparently. Oh my God.

Yeah, so that's fun. The devil might actually show up. I, but, and I can't prove this. This is just based on the speculation of a few people. I'm not other people. Yep. Some other people I've talked to were like,

ah, it could be the devil. And I was like, that is worthy of reprinting wholesale. Yeah, so I mean, I guess take that in mind when you think about his other beliefs, how firmly based they are in things. Yeah. So a caller calls in to talk to Alex and text and this guy wants to bring up that it's not really biblical to believe in something happened just there. I was like to talk about the passion a little. Okay go ahead. Okay Matthew 2019 says that the Gentiles had Jesus crucified and Acts chapter 221 claims that

Israel had Jesus killed and all said and first Corinthians 2 6 the princes of this world had him was ill well that's the point is that is that hold on a second is that the Romans the Jews the elite of the world as that says the establishment didn't like what he was doing the same thing today yeah Jesus said that no man takes my life I lay it down willingly. Okay. And one other thing, Alex. He jumps on to another subject there after that, but that's a, yeah, that's a, that's a, real tough to get around the whole,

no one killed me, I lay it down personally, because that's what I was telling you, God told me to do. I was doing what he said, everybody's doing the plan, this is the whole thing. And I also think that it's, you know, when you, when you, you when you look at things like that, and you consider the totality of the message,

I don't feel like Jesus' message was, hold a grudge. Avenge me. I want to say that he was very specific about what he was there to do. He liked forgiveness. I don't recall her saying anything about forgiveness. I want to say that he was very specific about what he was there to do. He liked forgiveness. I don't recall him saying anything about good things. No, I don't recall him saying anything about that.

It doesn't feel like the kind of religion or sort of spiritualism that I would resonate with to bicker about blame thousands of years after something. Yeah, it does seem a little odd I was weird when Jesus was like Let he who is without sin throw the first stone unless unless he's got a shit ton of racism and it's a Joe I think I believe he said that yeah, so a text that isn't gonna have any of this shit Hey

Alex one thing I know we haven't got much time the the car right before this i want to correct the impression he made about the bible it's a fun selectively quote did the bible is absolutely not true the bible is very clear certainly jesus christ lay down his life for uh... but there was there were human instruments, human agents, and the apostle Paul, and first as an excuse, second psalonians, verse 14 through 16 says this quote of the Jews who both

killed the Lord Jesus. I want to read that again. The Jews killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets and have persecuted us and they please not God and are contrary to all men. Now either the apostle Paul told the truth which I'm convinced he did or he didn't but the Jews killed Jesus. Pilate again and again said I find nothing wrong with this just man. I'm going to release him. But the Jews cried out here again. We have the Bible at you 27. They cried out crucify him.

Give us for Abbas and they said his blood beyond us and on our children. Well, we'll text. We think for them to say that it's important to be historical and when I was saying up with you agree with the caller what i was saying was is that and there are those verses he was reading that the system the corrupt system and you know the Pharisees uh... wanted this to happen and and and so i was being clear that uh... you know it's this group not

uh... you can do a bunch of you people who were followers of you didn't want to kill well that that's true that there there were very many though and that he it makes clear that it was a lot of you all of the juice and i'm afraid that we have uh... many many jews who would do the same thing today but uh... again we should not have a few because that's very very unfair alright

so alice alix has an inability to he's agreeing with the caller when the caller was saying this and then as soon as text pushes back on it he has to sort of get towards the middle but he's also really trying to be like text. Yeah come on buddy. Yeah come on buddy. Yeah. Let's not go too hard. This is not the place for that game text Tex. Yeah, that's that's fun. I do appreciate that well You know there were people who followed Jesus who didn't Fuck them not many. I mean what does that mean not many? Yeah, what's the correct number? Texas

I'm gonna say unfortunately, but I'm not sure about that. He's dead. So we can't ask him about it Yeah, that's true. I can't ask for numbers. I feel like maybe somebody should have noticed in the Bible It tells a lot of different stories about the same thing happening. It's true based upon what is Useful at the time. There's different accounts of things. It seems like if they're different accounts of things and they're all in the bible and then they all have to be true i mean that's that's that's you know i mean that's an issue for someone else to wrestle with i'm not actually i'm that that you don't have a i don't have a dog in this fight so uh...

yeah let this one go so uh... caller calls in and asks about a white supremacist murderer uh... but also maybe isn't asking about that but Alex thinks he is i don't know what's going on here uh... thank you for taking my call Alex first i'd like to apologize that i believe the last time i called that was quite upset

and i've always been in some of the time that the sir do you have a question or comment yes i do uh... i was wondering a couple of years back to used to be a so-called, I believe it was a white supremacy church around a Chicago area. And one of this guy's followers went and killed about six or seven people in a mostly Jewish neighborhood. Yeah, a total federal operation. He lived at the military base in Washington State, friends with Larry Ashbrook who shot up the Baptist Center in Fort Worth, and he told his neighbors, I'm under control, I was in the Navy, they're telling me to do it.

Neighbors saw a white van pull up, people grabbing a week before, freaked out, tore his house up, cried out for help, and then went and shot everybody yelling, Hale Satan, and then blew his own head off. Text you want to comment on that? Actually, this was another deal out in Chicago. I believe the guy's name was Hale. And the last time I heard he was arrested under the Patriot Act, now this is the leader of the so-called Church.

He said he didn't have enough to do with this guy going kill in those people, but they put some phony charges on this guy's thing. He was trying to kill a judge. They arrested him under the Patriot Act, and he hasn't had a lawyer. It've been like two years and i haven't heard another of the swindler yeah i see these articles all the time text you want to comment on that yeah i think you're talking about math hell

yep uh... that he he he's a he's a lawyer uh... of course i wouldn't agree with him on a on a religious basis at all he really does not believe in a personal god but i know him i've communicated with him, and those are Trump's up torches. What he really did with, he disagreed with this judge, and he asked people to write the judge

and let him know you disagree with him. Now, unfortunately, he didn't tell anybody to do any harm to the judge or whatever, but the judge didn't like to receive he's one of these elitist monsters who think that if you just criticize him that intimidation and the judge ordered mister hailed and arrested

because he didn't like to be criticized the judge was a lady uh... but also Matthew hailed didn't just criticize the judge he uh... solicited someone to uh... murder uh murder the judge and that person was an FBI agent. Right. Right. Right. Right. The FBI agent had been embedded in Hale's group and Hale had made him the head of security because he liked him. Wow. And honestly, if you look at the case, it really does kind of feel like, you know, Matthew Hale is a piece of shit. Yeah, he sucks. He's a neo-nazi. Yeah. But that FBI agent was doing a bit of poking and prodding

towards getting him to want to kill the judge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if it's entrapment or not, but it, looking at the information that I looked at made me feel like left to his own devices, there is a chance that he would not have wanted to kill this judge. Right, but there's also a chance that he would have. Sure. No, no, he did get charged.

I mean, the problem with that is we've seen an awful lot of the FBI agents do that to Muslims immediately following 9-11, you know. Yeah, yeah. It's hard to trust the FBI. It's the I think I think the standard of blame should be fairly high or the standard of certainty that this person is Wants to and is planning to do this thing Sure

Is pretty high and I have a little bit of a dubious feeling about. Now, again, dude, Sucks is running a Nazi church. Sure. Sucks. And a bizarre twist. Hale was arrested in 2003, but later this judge's mother and husband were murdered in her home in 2005. But get this, it was found to be completely unrelated

to Matthew Hale. Right. Just, that's not fair.. Just, that's not fair. That's, that's not fair. The comments are just, it's, it's, it's, it's one of those things. You know, sometimes it's like, oh man, I don't know if things that happen far away are real. This isn't Chicago. I mean, well, what I mean is, what I mean is outside of this room.

Okay. So I think, I don't know what Alex was talking about, but the caller, he was referencing a murder spree that was carried out by this white supremacist and a Hale church follower named Benjamin Nathaniel Smith. Between July 2nd and 4th 1999, Smith carried out drive-by shootings in the Chicago land area targeting Jews and minorities. The spree ended when he went to Bloomington, Indiana and tried to carry out a mass shooting. Ultimately killing one guy is a Korean dude named Juan Jun Yoon and then he led the police

on a highway chase and shot himself in the head. So that was the case that this caller brought up. But you can see how knee jerk Alex is coming up with some kind of a story recon, rattle off all kinds of insinuations that this white supremacist murderer is a false flag of some sort, because he's invested in denying the existence of this brand of violence. Yeah, I mean, it should be difficult to get past. You didn't actually know what that guy was talking about and then you made up a long story about that guy. Right.

Well, that certainly is some kind of the slew of talking points that he has about a different white supremacist murderer. See, that's kind of the thing. Yeah. Yeah. You're very eager to deny white supremacist violence is basically what we're getting at. The FBI, like, I mean, but that has to be it. That has to be like the entire, the entirety of the FBI's job is to pretend to be white

supremacist murdering people. If we're Alex, yeah, because there's so many of them all over the place, right? Yeah. If for Alex's ideas to be future, and be yeah and well i mean not just that i mean there are also you know pretending to be patriots doing promise and you know so we know so there's a yeah they got a business so text like i said he performed aliex's wedding

uh... that guys know each other real well yeah and he just thinks aliex is a sweetheart everything we said on this program many people will stay a intimidation yet Alex i know you personally i know listen you wouldn't even hurt a puppy dog i mean you know you're the kindest guy is killed more

you're white is one of the sweetest ladies i know violet and and yet you see they would claim that by our free speech we're threatening people's lives re intimidating we're we're creating terrorism this is non-fim and we've got to stop the nonsense before we lose our gun absolutely and if folks want a free power prophecy newsletter I suggest you call and get one eight hundred two three four that's the newsletter that's full of all the

anti-smitic bullshit by By the way, yeah, Alex You've never heard a dog you've killed so many dogs. I mean, so many fucking dogs. Alex is by his account I mean, I know he's lying, but by his account. He's a fucking murderer. He's killed people. Yep. He says that yeah a lot So I don't know I don't know man. I still somebody's guts. They die real slow This is a family show bad don't say bullshit So you've won less clip here and I think that this is illuminating as Fuck this is the pipeline

Text I appreciate your hard work and all you do and I appreciate you coming on the show appreciate your hard work and all you do and I appreciate you coming on the show. Alex listen I felt the same way about you. You're really on the front lines and people made the price for Alex Jones. You're doing so much good. Just at my Bible home church meeting the other night at Jomal came out to me as a car-practor. He said his whole line was turned around by you Alex. Just listening to your show he had been a rush limbal fan but he says but after he listened to Alex Jones he said he knew that that rush limbal just didn't tell the whole story and I want to thank you and then your audience as well for the courtesy of me coming on today. Well thank you take care Tex. I'd also like to thank you for creating an audience that is receptive to me, whereas the jump from rush to me,

probably too big of a jump. But you prepare them to be sucked into you got it. You know, from rush to athletic churches, like mine. Hey, you know what's fun about that? Spells rat. Mm-hmm. I think that there could not be more clear

like kind of just in less than a minute a explanation of this guy was listening to Rush Limbaugh. You radicalized him and made him believe that there was this large conspiracy that explains everything in the world and that Rush was hiding things from him. And then he eventually found his way to me because I'm even more satisfied. Right. As I give the ultimate answer that you don't really give the people are looking for, which is it's the juice.

Right. You started listening to Alex, you believe in the conspiracy, and then you're talking to other people who listen to Alex and they're like, you know what he's actually talking about. You know who his guru is. Exactly. This guy who says the stuff that Alex can't say on the air because then he'd get in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, they'd call him a racist.

Now, I mean, if you read it, hey, what are you gonna say? Wow. So yeah, this is a bad episode, man. Bad stuff. Yeah. 2004 is tough. Yeah.

I think it's so much more interesting and so much more revealing in terms of what Alex's career has really meant. The foundations of it and so much of this building time, like what he should be called to be responsible for yeah But man bad like it's just stuff that doesn't get talked about enough no that like Alex's show was a den of Nazis basically in

2004 and it it I mean we saw how popular it got. The amount of damage Alex did to everybody. Mm-hmm. Through this is fucking huge. Yeah. And I mean, it's insane. It's insane that it's still going on. Yeah, it's very strange that so much of the legacy isn't defined by like the, basically what is being described in that last clip.

Like so much of Alex's legacy should be middleman between conservatism and Nazis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Willing participant in that pipeline. I am, I'm the guy who'll get you there. He's, he's the fucking goddamn coyote of racism. Oh, you know, not the Wily Coyote. No, no, no, no.

Okay. That's what I was saying. What? He'll get you across the border is what I was saying. Yes. So Wily Coyote, you met a four-way friend. Understand. Fair enough.

So, yep, that's that. I'm going to be moving this weekend. So we have an interview that you did coming up on Monday. So that's gonna be very exciting. Yeah. But we will be back in the soon after that. And indeed we will. Ideally the move will be smooth.

I do. And we'll have a new studio take some pictures. Yeah. Show the people. That'd be fun. But yeah, until then, wait a website. And indeed we do. It's knowledgeride.com. I realized i didn't ask you for closing thoughts because i

kind of think we got it out of the way we got it out yeah no that explains everything that i feel yeah yeah uh... we're also on twitter we are a certain knowledge and i'll be back but until then i'm neo on the oom dc x clerk uh... bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup bup EZX Clark, buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh Hey Alex, do you think that we should do a chilly willy winter? Wooo yeah, wooo yeah! And now here comes the sex robot.

Andy and Chanzo, sure on the earth, thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm the first time I've seen color in my huge fan. I love your work. I love you. fan, I love your work. I love you.