Knowledge Fight - #836: The Crowder Announcement

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan get together to discuss the breaking news that Alex Jones is going to try to relaunch a subscription service on Steven Crowder's new network full of losers....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I Ready Not not not knowledge fight Damn and Jordan I am sweating Knowledge fight that come it's time to pray I have great respect for knowledge, mate. Knowledge, mate. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Shang-Ee are the bad guys. Knowledge, fight.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Dan and Jordan. Knowledge, fight. Need money. Need money. Andy and family. Andy and family. Stop it. Andy and family.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Andy and family. Andy and Andy. It's time to pray. Andy and family. Sure, I'll be here if I can hold it. And the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and the end of the game, and good dudes likes it around worship at the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. So up What's your bright spot my bright spot is I was gonna say this episode because I was kind of excited about what it portends Okay, there's portent. Yeah, so I want to say that something I'm going to say in this episode is my bright spot, but I don't want to reveal it yet Okay, so you'll know it when it happens all right. All right for shadowing is your bright spot. Yeah, yeah, okay a big tease I like it very unsatisfying. What's yours? I think it's gonna be a similarly Unsatisfying I think because it's not really a bright spot. Oh, so there's a new show on Netflix a Korean reality show
Starting point is 00:01:47 Piki blinders which is Squid Game all great reality shows now are from Korea Sure, and it's called zombie verse and essentially what they've done is they've taken five people and I guess convinced them that they were going to be on a dating reality show and then also they were going to be on a dating reality show. And then also purchased an entire block of a city or whatever and filled it with extras who are playing as realistic zombies as they possibly can. And they have not told these people this.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And so on. This sounds like a damn script game. It is so quick, but it's like. So they know that you, okay, they have to know that zombies aren't real. They have to. They have to. I would hope so.
Starting point is 00:02:29 They have to. Well, wait, so have you watched it? I've watched the first episode. I feel like, I feel like all the questions I want to ask you about it might be spoiling, but you've only seen the first episode. I know. So I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It's tough because this this premise does sound like something that if you're going to watch it, you're going to want to watch it. Oh, totally. Well, you've seen jury duty. The polyshore movie. No, although that's fine. No, you haven't seen the jury. Okay. Oh, that show where the guy is in jury duty. I didn't know that was the name of it. Yeah. Right. Right. So yeah. So that show they put this guy into a situation that is completely fictitious reality fictitious reality convinced him of something that is true and only by virtue of him being like a good dude Mm-hmm. Does it not make you really morally problematic about it? Right, right, but it doesn't involve zombies Right this is kind of fucked up to the point where even if they know it's not real
Starting point is 00:03:23 There is very clearly shit that you are going to take with you for the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest. Like, there is trauma that's going to happen here. Like, and it is kind of fucked up. Yeah, but you sign a waiver. Look, I- No, I understand that. This is basically an elevated prank, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:40 But it is! I mean, it's almost like an escape room, it's like an escape room that they've expanded to an escape reality I guess what if you had to escape in an entire city what if Chicago was your escape room for a week or whatever, you know, I mean I'll just walk But everybody zombies and there are real looking at real Yeah, but what if they act is so fucking real and like you see people getting fucking touch I'm telling you they've totally cared well fine if they touch me I'll punch one and then you'll become I don't even know how to
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm gonna be couple zombies you're real you will know I won't I think but that's where I think the problem is I think they get these people one one okay first, you and I obviously were never going to be at a place where we're like zombies are real. And if I punch a zombie, I'm fine. They have to bite me. Toad, right? You're gonna be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 But if you're the type of person who signs up for a dating reality show, I do think that you are more likely to become susceptible to this point where you go, wait, are zombies real? Maybe. I hope not, but maybe. But here's the thing, that jury duty show that you're describing.
Starting point is 00:04:52 The buy-in for that is much lower. Because jury duty exists. People are weird, which I assume is most of the tension in the show. People do weird stuff. People do weird stuff in your life, is this real life? Yeah, you know, you can have surreal moments. Sure. People do weird stuff. Yeah, people do weird stuff in your life, is this real life? Yeah. You know, you can have surreal moments and people are chaotic
Starting point is 00:05:08 and unpredictable. Totally. Whatever. Yeah. If a dragon walked into the courtroom, much bigger sell. Totally. Much bigger buy-in. A lot harder.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, and so like, yes, if I were on this show, I would be scared of someone attacking me because I would think, oh, they didn't clear the set. Sure. Not because I think this guy is a zombie. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. That would be what scares me. No, the premise of the show. Here's the thing that I think gets, here's what I think does it. All right. Is that normally, you'd be like, okay, fine. And you're in one arena, and then you leave, and you're like, okay, now we're outside of the reality TV show place. But then they literally go outside of town to a gas station,
Starting point is 00:05:53 and there are still zombies there. They're traveling across a legitimate distance to the point where you're going, again, I know they know zombies aren't real, but I also know that some of them are really going like, they can't possibly afford to hire several thousand people for this dumb show, right? And they can. Yeah, that's where you gotta just say yes they can. They can. You have to be like, wow, these people spent several million dollars hiring a bunch of
Starting point is 00:06:26 extras to attack me for a week. Right. And especially if like, oh, I'm going all this way to the gas station that the producers told me to go to as opposed to the gas station I choose to go to. And the guy who drives the guy who drives the car to get to the gas station. Yeah, he does. Of course he does. And he leaves the car.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He leaves the car. He's outside of the car. I understand that, you know, there is, there are reasons why one might come to the suspicion that made the zombies early. Sure, sure, sure, sure. But, no, no, no, again, I agree with you. What's interesting in this, you know, like with jury dirty, with jury duty, the interesting thing is, oh, look at all these people behaving weirdly, will this guy eventually go like fuck off?
Starting point is 00:07:06 You know, like that kind of thing. Whereas with this show, the tension is more like, how much would it take? How much would it take to really convince you that zombies are real? Yeah. That, see, did you ever see that show on MTV Fear where they'd have people go to like a band-in
Starting point is 00:07:26 mental hospital, the prison? Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they had to record themselves. And like, I ever, I ever wanted to end up kind of thinking ghosts are real. Yeah, yeah, well, like maybe, yeah, maybe they'll get to the point where it's just like, okay, we're in a zombie invasion.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But then you run a very serious risk of them killing an extra. Because if you buy into the premise, you're gonna murder. Well, that's the thing about it is that can you, can you like almost hypnotize somebody to that point? Where it is like, listen, I signed up for this reality show. I know I'm on a reality show and now zombies are happening. So obviously zombies aren't real This is part of the reality show, but then how many steps but you know, it's it's a little bit like imagine imagine if you were somebody who was like People keep telling me that I can see the future and every prediction you make keeps coming true Even though you can't see the future or anything like that
Starting point is 00:08:23 It's just everybody makes it so that every prediction you make keeps coming true, even though you can't see the future, or anything like that. It's just everybody makes it so that every prediction you make keeps coming true. How many in a row before you go, maybe I can see the future. I mean, I guess it would depend on how elaborate the wishes are. It have to get crazy, right? The logistics of it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, but here's the other thing I'm thinking about. Sure. It's like the payoffs that you want from this show are impossible. Like them killing extras thinking that there's ambies or something like that. Or the other end of it is people just being like, zombies don't exist. This is ridiculous. And then there's no payoff to that. It feels like the middle of the road is even kind. I don't feel like there's a satisfying way
Starting point is 00:09:05 that this show plays out. Here's the payoff. And I'll tell you what the payoff is, because we've already seen it happen one time in the first episode. And there'll probably be more different payoffs that I haven't imagined so far. But the payoff is, who is the person
Starting point is 00:09:18 who's gonna hide that zombie bite? Oh, so it's like a mole, who's the mole? No, no, no, no. I mean, they're not doing that on purpose, but there is that element of like, okay, so all of these people now are suddenly believing that they're in this environment. But what if there is a valorous person who kills himself?
Starting point is 00:09:36 There are valorous people. Will they sacrifice themselves? It's horrible. Exactly, it's not okay. It's not okay. I don't think it's okay. I think this is really bad. And I am somebody who has frequently screamed
Starting point is 00:09:51 about how I want one of the challenges on Survivor to be, give me an ounce of your blood. Like Jeff Prope's just wants blood. Just give me blood. Yeah, that's it. I don't care how you get it out. I'm a man blood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Fill up against, we get to barrels with lions on them. But why not? Why not? I see no reason. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. I feel like they could do that on the challenge though.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I have been thinking about that. Yeah. Yeah. They won episode, they could just be like bleed. TJ life would just come to that. He's like, today, got bleed. I do think that TJ would laugh psychopathically when if like other people were just like, today, you gotta bleed. I do think that TJ would laugh psychopathically when if like other people were just like,
Starting point is 00:10:28 wait, you want me to bleed? And he was like, yeah. And they just grabbed knives and cut themself. I put it song out like a psycho. Yeah. TJ's crazy. Yeah. The problem with the design of this would have to be,
Starting point is 00:10:43 because you get in trouble if it's quantity or time-based. Sure. Because if it's time, then you risk somebody like being really reckless with how they get their blood out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if it's quantity-based, someone might try and go for like a leader or something.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Sure. Well, yeah. I mean, that's when you start wondering if people are going to like siphon gas. Are they going to figure out the same shit with like a vein? How? Somebody's got a little tube and they're like, okay, I got what you. Yeah, I mean, this is dark and grotesque and everything,
Starting point is 00:11:11 but I feel like a lot of reality TV is so exploitative anyway. Oh, I mean, it's really that different. I don't think it's defensible at all. I don't think anybody should try and defend reality TV. We should all just accept that that's part of who we are. Yeah. Dark underbelly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Sure. And like I said, it will include something that is a bit of a bright spot. But I will explain everything on the other side of saying hello to some new walk. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, the last broken squash cousin. Thank you so much, you're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. So first the last broken squash cousin. Thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much. Thank you. Next pasta and toasty the cats with the mosty
Starting point is 00:11:50 Thank you so much you are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next AP Christ. Thank you so much you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk thank you very much I'm guessing that's advanced placement Christ which I took in and my senior year of high school. How fun would that be? Next, my name's Michael and I used an AI to prove that dividing by zero results in infinity somebody better pay me soon. Next, Clemation Point, thank you so much you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Thank you very much. Thank you. And Aaron, you missed our anniversary. It was yesterday. Thank you so much you are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Oh boy I'm gonna take the credit in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to the new world order is replacing fossil fuels with the disc world's captive demon technology
Starting point is 00:12:35 Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I'm I quit tomorrow actually. I'm just gonna take a little break you know a little break you know. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm gonna start the show over. But I'm the devil. I gotta be taking it on here. I'm gonna do all this. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new
Starting point is 00:13:05 world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit! Maybe today's survival has broke just. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back hearing you. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not, never shall be. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So it came to my attention and some people have pointed this out. And I forgot to mention it because of, we didn't have a Wednesday episode after we had that interview with Mike Rothschild. Yes. But that demon pride shirt is real, apparently. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And what I didn't, okay, so here's the thing. I did not know of the drama that surrounded that shirt. It was originally created by LGBTQ designer and then was co-opted by the right and what have you as an attack. But I didn't realize it was pride month, and then taking off the letters on the outside, the end of month and the beginning of pride. And then, demon.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah, demon is left. De, that makes more sense than what Alex was describing in my head as Pride Demon month. Yeah, which is what I what I yeah, it's a little different but I wanted to acknowledge it because people had pointed that out and I I mean here's the thing we're at a disadvantage for for the rest of the world they can think, oh, there's this shirt that I saw. That kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:14:48 But if we hear demon on our show, we go, well, obviously he's talking about a specific literal demon. That exists. And press, and I thought it was a pride demon month. It was a specific demon month for the Bragg, yeah. Also, I think we're also at a disadvantage a little bit because we are not always up to date on the things that become social media conversations.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah, we need a lot of that. We kind of don't we don't see. I appreciate it. I would rather find out after the fact what social media is mad about than than daring. Yeah. So, yeah. Jordan, yeah. Today, we're covering something that happened this morning. This morning? I... Wait, what day is today? Tuesday? Yeah. Okay. I had an idea of doing a 2004 episode,
Starting point is 00:15:36 but then I got the bat signal, went up. Literally, over the skies of Chicago, I saw... Oh, Christopher Nolan's Chicago. Uh-huh. I saw with the bat signed. It's just a purple penguin. Yeah Yeah, I don't know none of this bent aflex shit get the fuck out of here. This is Christopher Nolan's bullshit right yeah big news Right big news. What is it? All right Big news. What is it? All right. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I heard Alex Jones. Stephen Crowder has sort of hired Alex Jones, which we will get down to business on. Like this is really, there's a lot of really strange
Starting point is 00:16:31 the dynamics going on here, but this morning, they had the big announcement. Yeah. What do they call it? Replatforming is starting now. I'm sorry? Well, because everyone got deplatformed. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Right. Shining light into the shadow band. They were de-platformed. They were repat, oh. Yep. Yeah, I would, there's other better names. Yeah. So they had their big unveiling announcement ceremony.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And who we're gonna start off with Gerald, who is the, I guess he's the guy, the business guy for Crowder stuff, and co-host. Yeah. And here's what they should have gone with, right? Obviously, because they're such machinist, they should have gone with he platformed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah. So here's Gerald. OK. Hello, mug club, and all you strange animals out there. Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo!
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Starting point is 00:18:01 replatforming for a free fight like hell t-shirt. Join us in that fight. we didn't seek this out guys I want to pause really quick because During Alex's talk he says that if you use the promo code you get a free month Yeah, and Stephen Carter has to be like we can't afford that you get a shirt So I don't know how good the fight at says are doing over there, right? We didn't look for the extra work of trying to start a network. We wanted to do a show.
Starting point is 00:18:29 We wanted to make people laugh. We wanted to educate and entertain them and try to help save our country. But so many of you weren't being served. It was all about scam advertising, dishonest tactics, censorship, playing ball with people that don't share your values, and we couldn't stand idly by while that happened. They want to cancel everyone of you and everyone of us. But because of you, because of Mug Club, they can't stand him and Big Tech wants to cancel him, but you have made him uncancellable! Welcome the straight animal himself, Steven Grouder!
Starting point is 00:19:16 Weird theme music that he has. That's the Hora Straight animal! Horrible! That is awful. Yeah, but also, I like the way that your head was tilting back and like, is you thought those descriptions probably or how anyone would introduce Alex? Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Because all these people have the same brand.
Starting point is 00:19:36 They have the exact same brand. Yep. They're the same person. It's pretty weird. I mean, that, that, we're too late. It's too late now. It's too late. We're already past the end, John.
Starting point is 00:19:47 How do you listen to him say all of that? It's time for a network that doesn't do the things that you said that the last network didn't do. Yeah, it's a little modland in a kind of adolescent way. There's a little bit of like idealism to it that I know is not sincere. It should be more just like, we got you coming. Now we wanna get you going.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You know, like it's like, well, it gets you no matter where you are, we're gonna find you and steal your money. We needed to do something because shit is bad. That's probably less of a good sales pitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that could be worse. So this is called the re-platforming, but that doesn't make any sense. None of these people were kicked off rumble, which is where it all is.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And it's not like they're announcing their mug club network is going to carry out a hostile takeover of spaces on other platforms. This isn't re-platforming at all. It's a consolidation of losers, whose audiences are dwindling to the point where they need to band together to have any chance of survival. I guarantee that anyone who had options
Starting point is 00:20:53 of who they would pick to have on their network would never choose this lineup. Stephen Crowder, a couple of years ago, maybe, yeah, maybe. Then you could at least tell yourself that he has a large audience and a fair amount of potential. But after the past year, I wouldn't go near him. He's had that ugly divorce announcement. His completely botched response to that.
Starting point is 00:21:14 That went really bad. And there's a video. Yeah, that's not good. He had the attempted publicity stunt with the daily wire contract that blew up in his face and led to a really embarrassing feud with Candace Owens and Matt Walsh, essentially icing Crouter out of the elite tier of the bigot right wing media.
Starting point is 00:21:31 In his defense, in his defense, that was a really terrible idea. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Then a bunch of former staffers of his came out with stories of Steven sending them unsolicited dick picks and generally creating a hostile and sexually harassing workplace. And now just this week, Jason Campbell from Media Matters did a breakdown of Crowder's rumble
Starting point is 00:21:50 views over time and it's really clear his ship is sinking. Like it is a ski slope. That's not good. He's toxic even to toxic people who still just want to make money. Like if you're a shithead who only is out for profit, crowd are still not what you want. This is legitimately like a fucking opening scroll for a Star Wars movie that winds up with the Sith Lords meeting together, fucking Stephen Crowder and Alex Jones. This is terrible.
Starting point is 00:22:21 So you got Stephen. Then you have the rest of the lineup. Right. There's someone named Mr. Guns and Gear, who I have no idea is I've never heard of him, but I'm sure he's great. I don't think this is a marquee name, but it's good to have a gun show for this audience, so I'll give it a pass. Wait, is the name Mr. Guns and Gear? Yeah, I think it's all one word.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Like it's a reference to that Mr. Shout and Speller, what? I don't know. all right okay Mr. Gaming shout something like that I don't know so then you have Brian Callan a fairly famous comedian who goes on Rogan show every now and then but used to be on a lot more regularly he's a guy who's probably not on the rise with a past of abuse allegations who appears on Cratter Show and sketches already. So this isn't like a big get. Wait, it's not, is that Brian, that's not the guy from Mad TV, right?
Starting point is 00:23:11 I don't know who's been on Mad TV. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, it's a weird lineup. Brian Cullen or Brian Callin? Cullen. Okay. Now, I think I could be wrong then. Um, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:20 He's a, yeah, I, I mostly am aware of him because maybe he was on last comic standing. And then he also was, he was on Rogan a Betcha I gave him some elevated statuers then you have Nick DePolo a comedian who peaked on Dr. Katz in 1996 Honestly, he sucks and here is the clip of his standup from the big promotional video for the Listen to this don't make me hear Nick DePolo. I remember him being funny. It's only 18 seconds.
Starting point is 00:23:47 OK. So this is how they're trying to sell him. OK. You better Nick DePolo. Holy s**t. Most serial killers are white, but you know why? To be a serial killer takes a lot of effort. It's like a full-time job.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Black crime is just quick and f**king simple. You know that show the first 48 they have a new one, the first 48 seconds, it's just Black crimes. Yeah, that's what they chose. He has a lot of material. That's his sting material, that's his teaser. Black criminals are too lazy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You know, I mean, it's a little blunt. You know, the problem with deaf, it's a little blunt. You know, the problem with deaf comedy jam is it wasn't focused on white points of view. I think that was the main issue there. So I'm also like, I think that Nick Topolo is already part of the mug club since his picture was on the subscription website back when I was considering making a dummy account. So this isn't a new addition either. Same for the next the next guy Jim Brewer who again peaked in the 90s Go boy. Yeah, he found a new stand-up comedy audience of anti-vax octogenarians
Starting point is 00:24:55 So I guess crytors got that demo covered with Jim. Wow then there's the hog twins They're a pair of twin black dude conservative commentators and I guess they're also comedians or humorists So do they make humorous videos? I think they have a decent sized audience But I also think they were way hotter a couple years back. I used to hear about them a bit more wait They're the Hodg twins. Yeah, and they never once considered calling themselves Hodg Podge I mean you'd have to ask them It might have been one that they moved past. I feel like I need to ask them this question now.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah, no, that might have been a name that they rejected on the... It's a reasonable to reject that name. I just need to know that it was brought up. Sure, sure. I only really know them from the times that they've been on with Alex, and I don't really find them interesting at all. But if there's somebody close to marketable on the network, it's them. Since they're young and they haven't completely torpedoed their career for no reason, yet like Prouder. This lineup is trash, and then you have the headliner, Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I found it really difficult to imagine that any of these individual acts help each other by being associated with each other. Someone drawn in by Alex probably isn't gonna be too interested in watching Brian Callan or even the Hodge twins. This network is really in no one's best interest other than Stephen and Alex. Stephen can profit off the audiences that these other creators bring in and help draw them into Stephen's revenue stream.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And Alex can hopefully finally have some place to launder his money in peace So the two of them can get what they need out of this what the expense of What would Jim brewer what would the name who the fuck is gonna put out Jim brewers special other than maybe yeah Distributed on this this platform. I know. I don't know I don't know whatever happened to uh wasn't wasn't there uh uh see that's exactly that's the problem and that's what this will be in a year. See so see so is he's gonna put it out that's what I'm trying to find that's where I'm trying to go.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Amber is gonna put it out on Quibi. If you see so Quibi yeah absolutely yeah how many how many more have we seen come and go? There have been a few yep but. But also this is going to be, I mean, this isn't going to be any, this is not going to work. No. Don't work for whom to what to do. Well, I can see it slightly working for Steven in as much as it could help juice falling stats and maybe create a little bit of buzz around him, but it's going to be diminishing return. and maybe create a little bit of buzz around him, but it's gonna be diminishing return. It's gonna dwindle. There's not quality content on here, and none of these people are good.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Alex is clearly looking for somewhere to launder money. So he's going to get what he needs, because this is outside the Info Wars umbrella. And so whatever, this isn't in bankruptcy, baby. No, completely different. Now he is still personally, but that's another matter. Yeah. I mean, so when you are making a lineup,
Starting point is 00:27:54 here's always been my philosophy, right? Sure. If you're making a lineup that is essentially, who can I get? All right. That's what you end up with. Try and disguise it at least a little bit. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:06 This is not disguised. This is a, who was available at this exact moment that I needed, who I could get? Yeah. And it's like a bringer show. 100% of bringer show. You know, for those people who do not, do stand up, a bringer show would be,
Starting point is 00:28:22 essentially, you're booked on a show with the understanding that you can bring five audience members. You are the one who's going to be bringing people. Yes. You're not going to be drawing people. You are going to be bringing your friends. Because those five people that you bring haven't seen the other acts on the lineup.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Exactly. Ideally, it's supposed to be, we will all create an audience together. And it's always a disaster. It's more just in a way to exploit new comedians whose friends haven't gotten tired of going and seeing them. Yeah. And that's essentially, I guess, what this is.
Starting point is 00:28:54 But you know, you have the notion of like it's creator-owned and creator-controlled. It's like, that's Stephen as the creator. No, it's created and controlled in as much as that. It's not like. I see those contracts then. Yeah. It's not like all of these people get like,
Starting point is 00:29:11 and they don't have a co-op. That's what I'm saying. If you're going to, if you're going to say that bullshit, I want the notes on your contract too. Because I think you're lying. Yeah, crowd are screamed about the daily wire contract for quite a while. Maybe you should put his out.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, I bet everybody who worked with Comedy Bag Bang was like, oh, this is totally gonna be creative. Oh boy. Your restaurant contract. So anyway, Crowder comes up on the stage and he has this to say, actually, I'm skipping quite a bit because this was a long, the Nick DePolo comes up and gives a speech. Oh my god. No, no need for it but Carter comes back up because he's gonna introduce Alex and
Starting point is 00:29:52 Here's here's one of his thoughts. Okay. We'll be releasing more information regarding some of the developments but this is one that we're all Pretty excited about and again if it was just business, it wouldn't make sense. What? This is a man who was removed from the platforms of Apple, Spotify, Google, Facebook, Meta, X, whatever the hell it is, all on the same day. But there's no coordination.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It's just coincidence. Those aren't the only two options. Coincidence or coordination. I could be everyone was waiting to kick him off and wanted to and then as soon as somebody else did, he's like, oh, let's all jump. We have cover. We have a conceivable cover. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway, you know, this, this whole joke here, this is if it was just for business who make no sense It's because Alex lost a billion dollars. He's in bankruptcy and so is his business. Yeah, but actually if you look at this The only way it makes sense at all is as a business decision
Starting point is 00:30:55 Alex and Stephen are both narcissistic abusive dicks who are impossible to work with They treat the people around them like shit because they think they're the big alpha of their environment They are not the kind of personalities that mesh well and eventually that's going to be an issue It's all sunshine and roses when you get to bask in the attention of making a big announcement that you think it's gonna Terrify big tech, but it's entirely another thing when you get named in the next lawsuit Alex gets you into Alex is his own boss at info wars So no one can tell him what to say and what not to say.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He's the ultimate responsible party. You can talk all day about creator freedom, but if his show is being put out on your network, you will eventually end up in a position where you have to tell Alex to apologize or correct something and he's not going to do it. And that can easily lead to a lawsuit. Alex can't be controlled and he cannot control himself. And you've now made that partially your problem, which is just a terrible move.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I just don't even know what to do when I see that happen. Mm-hmm. Like, yeah, you know that whole, like, let them fight thing that people like to do whenever shitty people fight each other and you're like, ah, this is, this is worse than that. You guys both would be better off. You would be better served starting a rivalry or fight each other by a wide margin. As opposed to trying to team up, you are only going to kill each other.
Starting point is 00:32:21 It's disgusting. But again, it's too stupid for me. It is, but I think that they're that stupid. And I think it's partially based on that sort of faux idealism that Gerald was presenting at the beginning. I think that that is something that they think that they can sell so it's too an audience. And don't give me wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I wouldn't be too surprised if they sat back and thought about whether or not they could do like a k-fabe Fight little fake fight between themselves like I think that was what Croutor was trying to do with the daily wire and it blew up in his face Right, and I think if you have another cooperative party it could go better that's good. I could do that Maybe the cooperative party. Yeah, I suppose you spring you get on an actual business Right usually a bad idea and Alex probably wouldn't be able to cooperate with that. Maybe conceivably and like conceptually he could, but I don't know if he could carry it off. No, I mean, that's why it's almost,
Starting point is 00:33:14 that's why it's almost even more effective to do it with Alex is because as long as Alex knows he's supposed to be kind of doing this, his fuck-ups can then be turned into part of the, part of the mythology, you know? Like, yeah, you're not supposed to be doing that. That's what you're not supposed to do, you know, like it's that simple. And it seems like, you know, if they, I mean, I have to imagine they have a contract. And if they do, I think Alex will void it pretty easily. I mean, I can't, I could not believe that they would put anything in writing.
Starting point is 00:33:46 They have to. I mean, it's a big company. I know, but you can't possibly think it's a good idea to put something in writing without involved, especially while he's personally in bankruptcy. Who's, who's lawyer did, did you, did you talk to Norm? No, did you talk to Norm? Gerald, Gerald's the lawyer also. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No. I don't know. I just assumed he does everything. I was gonna say it's media star Bobby Barnes all over again. Him and Cratter's dad are the team behind Cratter. So this I think is just a terrible move, like attaching yourself to Alex, and it would probably only be made by someone who's feeling pretty desperate,
Starting point is 00:34:18 and they really need attention and possibly new viewers. Cratter's numbers are dropping, and without Alex, this list of losers doesn't even merit an announcement, or the existence of a network. He may be a total liar in one of the worst people I've ever seen, but Alex has an audience, and it's one that probably isn't in the mug club already. They're fresh eyes, the of a chance with, which is something that's literally not possible with any of the other names in the right wing media space.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Crouter's burned all the other bridges and Alex is the best he can do, so this makes complete sense as a business decision. It's a terrible move, but it's probably better than the other ones that are available, like continuing to dwindle in size until Gerald decides to quit and find another gig.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah? That's the alternative. I just don't like us being right about this. I don't like us seeing this. Oh, would be called that they were getting together. I don't like us seeing this coming way far in advance. But I don't actually think that, I don't think that that was that much of a prediction.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's just, most people weren't paying attention. No, that's what I'm saying. I don't, I mean, it's not like, oh, look at how smart we are. I don't like that this was so fucking stupidly obvious Yeah, when Alex was going to the Cratters place like a week. Yeah, everybody involved should have been like hold on and all that started to escalate in Frequency and regularity
Starting point is 00:35:37 Alex was told that he can't do his Shit, it is in wars because of the bankruptcy. Yeah, it is absurd It's just absurd listen It is it is it is to the point now where I get it if you are on I'll exist team It is in your best interest to not know all that shit about Alex Yeah, but you should listen to our show if you're thinking about partnering with him Yeah, you're now making it your you're Close to your problem or potentially your problem.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And that's really fucked up. You're stupid, stupid and stupid and stupid. But again, I think it's better than the alternative, which is like, Steven Crowder, what else can he do? Like he can be offensive into the void on rumble. Sure. But like no one really gives a shit. His audience is dwindling.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Right. Like, I don't know what, what, it's just a relevancy. All right. Essentially. Let me throw this out at you. Yeah. How many people are on the Crowder Show? Four.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Do you mean as a cast? Yeah. Like, like when they're doing the recording, they've got the dancers. I don't know. Because the co-host left. Right. One of them. Sure.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And then you got Gerald. Right. I think you have someone at a sound board, maybe. Okay. I don't know. I don't think you have someone at a sound board maybe? Okay. I don't know. I don't think it's that much. All right. I don't think that there's like a crew.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Okay. Then I'm going to go with dead presidents. They need to rob banks. Oh, perfect. That's what you're doing. What if that was the announcement? We just started to switch into a kind of band of thrill seekers. What if that was the announcement? We decided to switch into a kind of band of thrill seekers. Yeah, yeah, you know like if you see a banker Rob, don't tell nobody. Yeah, I Steven Crowder and the second story man
Starting point is 00:37:18 Alex's face he does the distraction work. Yep, yep, Gerald Russell's horses He does the distraction work. Yep, yep. Gerald Russell's horses. Steel's horses rest to get out of town. Who's the wild card? Who's the wild card? Nick DePolo. That's who's the wild card.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, Nick DePolo. Just wandering around with a shotgun for no reason. Nick DePolo is the safe cracker. Oh God. Oh, see, the white safe sir like that. Oh, man. This, this, this sucks. I'm excited to see how bad a terrible this is going to go. If the bankruptcy court steps in and says, Alex, you're clearly just trying to do the
Starting point is 00:37:57 exact same thing you were doing before. Yeah, I mean, you're trying to divert money around. You can't do this. It is, it is like if the bankruptcy court doesn't step in, that's clearly just them being like, well, I guess there's no way to stop him now. He's just gonna keep doing it. So I hope that's the case.
Starting point is 00:38:16 If that's the case, Dick listen to nature is for there, but then fuck off, yeah. If that's the case, look for Alex to transition more and more. Torrent to this. Torrent to this as just pushing more and more. Totally. Totally. Just push more and more. Just push more and more. Until they cannot ignore it. He's unable to like, oh, I can get away with this.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's terrible. Yeah, we'll see. So here, Crouter introduces Alex. All right. These people at these big tech platforms, they tell you that they'll never come for you. That you can keep your tens of millions and revenue or millions that you make from their platforms. And really all that means is that if you're lucky, really lucky, they'll kill
Starting point is 00:38:49 you last. Well, they tried to kill this next man first. And if he's honest, he'll tell you, they almost did. They did a lot of damage. But if there's one thing you can say about this man, love him or hate him, is that he will fight for this country with every last breath in his body, and he just won't die. So it's with as much pride that I can convey, and as much surprise, by the way, as you, in landing this white whale, the number one draft pick without a doubt out there, that for the first time
Starting point is 00:39:19 he will launch his subscription network, exclusively under the mug club umbrella, starting with his new Friday show on August 18th Ladies and gentlemen I don't like a puttin chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay Yeah, they stole the undertaker's bell. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. So yeah, I mean, like him or hate him, uh, I hate him. Yeah. I don't think I do. I don't think I can say that he will never stop fighting for the country. I think he's stopped fighting for
Starting point is 00:40:02 the country so many times in the past. I think he's abandoned us. I think he said that we all should die. I think he said that we all deserved death. He said that he's stormed off his show 100 times. He believes that if it weren't for the globalist being on the side of devil, he'd be saying they were right, et cetera. If they were just like King George or whatever. He's pro-Hitler.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Uh-huh. And wants to colonize the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think he's, I think he's abandoned the human race. I think he's a little bit outside of it. Yeah. Also, I don't like you using the Undertaker's gong. I think it's kind of disrespectful
Starting point is 00:40:40 to somebody who accomplished something. Mm hmm. Yeah. I guess that might be a play on the like he's never, he just won't die. Yeah, I mean, it has to be, it has to be a play on that. I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So subtle. I mean, I don't mean that sarcastically even. I think that a lot of people wouldn't hear that as the Undertaker's entrance music. I can respect that. I think you're, I think they're playing to their audience though if that makes sense i assume their audience but they don't do they don't draw attention to it is true
Starting point is 00:41:12 i don't know anyway here's alex he comes in uh... with the music alex jones everybody Everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. excited ever Right the tiger
Starting point is 00:41:46 You could see his stripes, but you know he's clean You ever you've been to a bull's game, right? No, you've never been to a bull's game. No, all right. So my dad was a Lakers fan growing up fair Uh, and we lived in Missouri fair enough fair enough I understand I mean you've been in Chicago for a long enough time that I assume that you would probably have like most of the people who I've ever known who go to games or cubs people fair enough so like I've been to rigly a number of times I guess I think Nate burrows might have almost got me to a bull's
Starting point is 00:42:18 game once but it didn't happen okay well I'll tell you this then the announcing of the players of the starting lineup of the Chicago Your 1997 Chicago Bulls And as much as you've seen that on TV. Oh, yeah. But when you're in person, it's so much more, it's a whole, it's a big deal. Boo, boo, boo, boo, you know, that piano going down. And sometimes when you hear it, it gets like the height of the Derek Rose area, where it's like, people would go apeshit,
Starting point is 00:42:49 but there were some of those lineups where you'd hear that music and you go, they do not deserve this kind of. Yeah, they don't know. They should have like a, and now the starting lineup for your Chicago Bulls, coming up to the, you know, like. It's so iconic though, from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I mean, yeah, you can't. Those games. No, that's the problem with when you associate that kind of thing with Michael Jordan. You can't be like, and now, that's Levine coming home. Oh my god. No, no, I get it. He scores a bunch. Fine.
Starting point is 00:43:18 No, it's not going to happen. That's what Holy Diver is here. Basically, yes. Yeah. I'm actually fine with it because Rainbow in the Dark is a better D.O. son. No. And so Alex shows the lesser of the D.O. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But also, because I was like, I think holy diver might be about Satan. I went and I looked into it, and it's not really about Satan. No. But then I ended up watching the video, and I don't know. If you guys want a little bit of a funny time,
Starting point is 00:43:44 go watch that Dio video because first of all I'd forgotten how funny Ronnie James Dio loves hilarious and then there's it's like medieval themed and he's walking through a castle with a big broadsword and I don't even know how to describe it but the way he walks down this hall with this sword made me laugh so hard. So anyway, Alex, thank you for bringing that to my attention. Yeah. Yeah. Also, um, Alex is really excited. Mm-hmm. Um, I'm just gonna give you a spoiler. He is very clearly on Coke. Yeah, that sounds right. He is, he is very speedy. Um, he could come up with the idea for a deal video right about. So here he goes. He's talking about him in
Starting point is 00:44:29 Steven's history. Okay. I've known Steven for more than 10 years. Just to you know, back in the call my show, always a really busy guy and he's been popper forever. And but we kind of do each other, but as soon as I got the platform, he saw as a threat, he said, I want
Starting point is 00:44:43 you on immediately the day after when everybody else was running away, including my friends, he was like, no, this is a danger to everybody. I see what this is. And then again, everybody else was shutting down during the lockdown. I didn't, he didn't. And so it's that type of instinctive courage that I really respect to become good friends last three or four years since then. I love coming up.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I love the energy. Let's be clear. Info wars, isn't going anywhere or Austin operation. My regular show that's on talk right everywhere. But we've been talking for years about some type of collaboration and he had to move from where he was to trailblaze and do this.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And what's incredible is it's succeeding. Not really, no. There's a fair amount of money involved in the mug club stuff. But yeah, in terms of like the public aspect of it, he's going to have problems in the near future. Yeah. He cannot afford to give away free months. That's that is probably about where it's at.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So I think that this is a really interesting history and the way that Alex describes it is fun. Because in reality, Stephen would never go on Alex's show before because Stephen was huge and Alex was toxic. Right. And then as Stephen's brand got a little bit more, you know, to the side of, you know, mainstream conservatism even, and Alex got kicked off everything. No one wanted to be around Alex, and that's a prime opportunity for you.
Starting point is 00:46:08 You can gain a lot of attention by being the only person who's willing to talk to Dahmer. To or whatever, you know, you can do that. And that's, yeah. And Stephen realized that that was, hey, this is an opportunity for me. I'll be the friend of the beast, as it were. That's, what is a real thing
Starting point is 00:46:28 that they really can't even appreciate, can they? They can't even sit down next to each other and be like, hey, what a weird life we've both led, right? You know, it's gone like one way and you've gone the other way. They can't even do that. They have to be dicks about it. They even have to be dicks about that.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah, they do. Oh my God, they're the worst people. Indeed they are. No, but not as bad as the enemies that Alex has. Which ones? He's gonna list a number. Oh, okay, well good. We don't just have the left and the globalist
Starting point is 00:46:55 and big tech and the intelligence agencies. We now know that we're sensory and controlling and suppressing election information and vaccine information and open border and human trafficking information, fentanyl info and afghan withdrawing foe. It's the big think tanks that crowd are alluded to earlier that are so-called conservative that have billions of dollars over the last decade to buy and control the populist nationalist, common sense capitalist movement that this country was founded on the medit the apple
Starting point is 00:47:23 of the world's eye. And so we're not just challenging the Met at the Apple the World's Eye. And so we're not just challenging the left and Hollywood and Big Tech. We're challenging conservative ink and they didn't make sense to some people that weren't you know, clued in or on the inside of what really goes on six months ago. And when crowd was making a big deal about the other big conservative platforms that are conservative, they interface with YouTube and Facebook and before Twitter was sold to Musk and literally sit around a smokey room laughing at the conservatives.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And I've been around it. It's disgusting to people that have authenticity, like Stephen Crowder and this incredible crew. Wow, I can't wait for them to go after the financial backing of all these conservative outlets, they're not going to. No. They're going to go after the media stuff. They're going to try and start fights with the media figures. Yeah. They're going after the people who fund the conservative media. No, no, no, no, no, they fund everybody. Yeah, but even if Alex doesn't get money from
Starting point is 00:48:21 them, and Stephen Crowder doesn't, if that is in fact, even the case, they still are very beholden to a conservative media space existing. That needs to be there in order for their shit to work too. They are like those cleaner fish. You know, here's the thought that just occurred to me. And I hadn't considered it up until just now, but like it doesn't matter what small group
Starting point is 00:48:48 of conservative quotes get together, right? They're all laughing at another group of conservatives. Right, you know, because they all think that everything they believe is fucking stupid. Well, maybe not. Maybe not that. They think that what the other person thinks is stupid. Right, right. It's that phenomenon that you find of, I mean, this not that they think that what the other person thinks is stupid. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It's that phenomenon that you find of, I mean, this even happens on the left too, quite frankly. Sure. It's like everyone isn't the real, you know, you're not the real... No, you're a Scottsman, yeah. Well, but yeah, it's that, not even that. Yeah. But just like, I understand the real conservatism on like these people. Sure, sure, sure. You know, and whoever's out of the room doesn't understand the real conservatism. Unlike these people. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And whoever's out of the room doesn't understand the real conservatism. That's what I'm saying. It's so absurd that they're like, oh well, we're the three of us together. We disagree on just about everything, but when we're in the room together, we only talk about the stuff we agree on.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And then we talk shit about the people who, when we three leave, will go into a room with them and talk shit about the people that we are we three leave, we'll go into a room with them and talk shit about the people that we are in the room with right now, because we don't actually share a belief system. Probably not. I mean, Nick DePolo has some really interesting ideas about economic policy.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Oh yeah? No. So it's interesting to see from that list that Alex has that the left and the globalist seem to be a separate group of folks that Alex is up against as opposed to the conservative folks that he doesn't like. I think that could be a fun direction for him to go.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Interesting. I think he'd need to come up with new names for teams and stuff, but it's doable. Honestly, this is just the same blather that he's built his career on with the Amabove, the left or right paradigm thing. He hates the left because he's an extreme right wing figure and he hates the right because he's far to the right of them. Anyone who can't see through that now doesn't have a chance at this point. And Magnum's mistake, the battle against conservative ink is a prophet driven venture for Alex
Starting point is 00:50:34 and Stephen. Yeah, Stephen used to work for the blaze and only started hating the conservative institution because the daily wire wouldn't pay him the absurd amount of money that he thought he was worth. Alex is an outsider and it makes sense for him to attack anyone, but joining this campaign against conservative ink is really the best option because the fans of folks like Matt Walsh are far more likely to fall off liking Matt Walsh and get lured over to Alex than fans of like R show or someone on the left that they could start a fight with.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It's copying the strategy Nick Fuentes used when instead of attacking left wing groups or yelling about Antifa, he targeted Charlie Kirk and turning point, forcing a showdown where they were able to attack Kirk from the right. And it made it so the most likely outcomes of this, you know, this confrontation were going to be swaying some of Kirk's fans to Fuentes aside or Charlie Kirk being forced to move more to the right in order to keep up. This of which occurred. This is the strategy that is useful for people who are outside bomb throwers like Nick Fuentes or what Alex and Stephen are describing this as what they
Starting point is 00:51:42 want to be to stick it to these conservatives. I don't think this network is gonna work out, and Alex's involvement in it will likely be very short-lived since it's clearly an attempt to do the thing the bankruptcy court told him he couldn't do. Oh, no, no, no. So, I, you know, do what you gotta do, well, you gotta do it.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Hold on. But, I mean, what was the last, but, no, ero, I, because I can't think of any other time in the past few years where Alex has done something that he's more excited about than he's ever been excited about. Oh, well, I mean, there was reset wars. Well, I thought of reset wars, but reset wars lasted so long. Oh, well, the lead up to it lasted a while.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I think he stopped talking about it a couple days after. Yeah, that's not fair. That's not fair. He would randomly mention it in passing for a month or two. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, boy, what do you want to, what do you want to bet? Do we, do we throw money down? Do we lay bets? What are we talking? I mean, I'd forgotten about reset wars, honestly. Exactly. To the point where I feel bad, we didn't cover it. We wanted to. What was the point? It was his fault. Yeah. It's not us.
Starting point is 00:52:48 No, it wasn't his project. It wasn't the most important thing he'd ever done. No, and it's almost the same for his book, the great reset. Like one of the things that's made it difficult for me to like nail down a coverage of it is like, this Alex didn't write this. No. Of course, no.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Of course not. Just Alex's name on it yeah and definitely some ideas that are similar to maybe they didn't come up with sit down interviews yeah yeah yeah yeah but Alex never wrote most of this did not put up he did not open a Google doc and fucking oh here Alex's edits for today no no didn't happen but Alex is so excited. So excited. So fucking excited. I give it three weeks.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Three weeks? Three weeks. Because I'm one, I'm giving it for, he's gonna try with Stephen Crowder longer than he probably should. Well, I think the only question for me is the bankruptcy court and someone having an injunction or something like that. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Because Alex is in personal bankruptcy and in four wars is in bankruptcy. So that to me is what makes it a bit more difficult. Yeah. Um, I think I think if the bank, if, if, if the law gets involved, then I would say less than less than three weeks. Less than three weeks, for sure. If not, I could see it going a few months. Okay, I'm going to, then I, here's what we're doing. We're putting the over under it three weeks.
Starting point is 00:54:14 I'll be over it down. I've written down eight eight. You're taking the over. Yeah. I thought you were, I totally thought you were taking the under. Well, I'm just going to roll the bones on whether or not the court acts. And I think that maybe they won't. Boy, you and I have, you and I the under. Well, I'm just gonna roll the bones on whether or not the court acts, and I think that maybe they won't. Boy, you and I have switched a lot on that.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Well, I think that they should, and I hope they do. Sure. But I'm taking the risk. I'm willing to take that risk. All right, all right. I mean, well, now I feel like, fine, I'll take the under. You want the overfleer. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I have to take the under now. I'm almost excited to take the under. Okay. Yeah I have to take the under now I'm almost excited to take the under okay. Yeah, we got three exciting weeks. I think I'm excited to take the under for this one. You're not going to be excited about this next clip. I doubt it. All these people have turned down tens of millions of dollars to tell the truth. I mean, the others people out there like Ted Nugent lost probably a hundred million dollars the last six seven years of support and Trump. It's's been in the news Just no more stadiums no more nothing. It's over so so so there's not many people like that price to bring you to do just over here What I'm thinking that you need an independent network that isn't controlled and I'm sorry Twitter is
Starting point is 00:55:18 Better than some of the other so-called conservative or open platforms, but it's still not even halfway free Yeah, bring in Nugent. That's what this network needs. Another old racist white dude with a deep history of abusing women. That sounds like he'd fit right in. It really does feel like this is the place for him. No one at this fucking company turned down tens of millions of dollars to tell the truth. They're all losers who can't play the game they want to play. Crowder didn't turn down the money to tell the truth. He didn't get the amount he wanted, so he decided to cause a scene and hope it came out in his favor.
Starting point is 00:55:49 And it didn't. Alex hasn't turned down shit that I know of, and no one is paying any of the other names on here, one million dollars, let alone tens. No. And if you needed a totally free network, guess what? It already exists and it's called Band-Dot Video, and Alex fucking fucking owns it Yeah, Alex doesn't need a free network that allows expression He needs a revenue stream he thinks will be safe from the bankruptcy yeah Crowder doesn't need a free expression platform because he's already on rumble and if he was desperate
Starting point is 00:56:16 He could post on band dot video. Yeah, he doesn't do that because he needs a monetized platform not a free one Yeah, the play in games. Yes. They just need money. Everybody is doing the exact thing for the opposite reason that they are telling you they are doing it for. But it's so transparent. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I go to the point where it's almost like, if they told the truth, I wouldn't believe them. I almost feel bad for like Nick DiPolo and Brian Callan and Mr. Guns and Geer. I know. You can caught in the middle of this. Nah, you chose what you chose. Nah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:56:49 We've all been, we've seen too many, I guess too many of my friends have joined a network of some sort or another only to see what happens. I guess the problem or the thing that I feel bad about is like them thinking this will go well. You're thinking that like there is going to be an advantage to their individual project based on being part of this. And you can't think, I don't know, what does Nick DePollo even think anymore?
Starting point is 00:57:15 I don't know what's going on in that guy's. He does not think highly of black people. I'll tell you that. Well, that's definitely true. I bet he's not even allowed at the seller or shit like that anymore, I bet. I bet his whole fucking thing has fallen apart and now he's just stuck with Crouter. Yeah, and she's a headlining Rogan's place the comedy mother ship totally no censorship
Starting point is 00:57:36 You could have just tried to be slightly less of an asshole and you'd have a Rogan level career Rogan knows not to be like hey, let's hate black people today. At least he doesn't do that I'm a used to and that's true. He did you see that at least Andrew dice clay was playing a character Nick Topolo It's not even a character. No, Nick Topolo is Nick Topolo. Yep, so I just heard Crowder's plan and We'll let you see what you think. Okay, I know the plan that Crowder has he's told me about it He's told you a lot about it, is to literally bring on hundreds of providers, and I guess the long-term even thousands,
Starting point is 00:58:10 and then use the great folks' number. Is he doing it in a certain way? Really are free and open to energize this. So people always say, hey, have you want your own internet? Why don't you build it? Or you want your own platform built it? Well, it's very hard to do,
Starting point is 00:58:21 but he's been able to do it because of you, the mug club members, and that gives him an Independence. So you literally aren't just the tail of the dog. You're the whole shoot match. You're the whole dog, the deep, the brain. Hello down. The guy's the heart. You the brain. The eyes and ears with the investigative unit and everything. You are this operation. And if you get excited about this, it's game over the new old order. Listen, we came and found the, don't I sign it excited? Get away from tearing. I was gonna say,
Starting point is 00:58:46 let me came the freest, greatest thing ever. So it's that the Israelites, can I get away? You, under, Ramsey's the second, and they now dug up all the tables. What you bring up? And that's a true story, really. Question. So in the Egyptian, hiring the crowd.
Starting point is 00:59:00 So, Stephen Crowder and the club in this whole operation is literally leading everybody out of Egypt, and we don't have to wait. Stephen Crowder is leading club in this whole operation is literally leading everybody out of Egypt and we don't have to wait. Stephen Crowder is leading them out like the Israelites. Wow. We have escalated. Yeah. Yeah. Slavery in Egypt, apparently equivalent to being shadowbacked. So we went from the re-platforming. Not being able to yell the N word if people on Twitter
Starting point is 00:59:25 a network of creator-owned stuff to parting the red seat. Yeah, I look forward to what Stephen Cradle will metaphorically do that at the reach of that level. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. So I mean, this idea of creating this place and then having a bunch of people, have their own channels and stuff. It's an interesting plan. It's actually exactly the same as Band-Dot Video.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh yeah, it's very similar to that. It's literally the same thing. It's the exact same thing as Band-Dot Video. Yep. Huh. Curious. I wonder if there are, uh, uh, oh, any kind of like overlapping.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Oh, um, band-up video zone by, uh, bankruptcy stuff. You know, say it's, that's probably not going to work. So anyway, Alex, he else about Bud Light, uh, sure, go. Well, go broke. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now here's another key point. If you look at the 40 plus billion, the Nihon, Heiser Bush has lost with the entire debacle, uh, another key point. If you look at the 40 plus billion in the Nihizer bush has lost with the entire debacle with the bottom line. That's a great example of us saying we're going to withdraw support of people targeting
Starting point is 01:00:33 children and sexualization and this whole transhumanist movement. That's what it is. I mean, even you've all know Harari at the WF says, oh, this is just the beginning. If you'll accept two men having a baby, you'll accept cyborgs, all the rest of it. Clones, animal human hybrids, which is on the beginning. If you'll accept two men having a baby, you'll accept cyborgs all the rest of it, clones, animal human hybrids, which is how you'll be open now. But instead of just boycotts, what about bycotts? And that's what this is folks. You get all these great shows, all these great
Starting point is 01:00:54 and the memberships, all these great things, and know that you're part of history, bucking the system, American Revolution, 1776, worldwide 2.0. So the boycotts are great. Pull your money out of the global system but then spend it with the institutions and organizations that are standing afraid of. So I just have to imagine that like 10 minutes before this announcement
Starting point is 01:01:15 shit started they're back doing a line Alex pulls his head up by God. I know absolutely absolutely that's the only thing I can think about Light switch in his hand is like all of this Exist purely for him to be like I thought of by God. I don't know if anybody is available Everybody laughed out that other shit about how it wasn't a business decision. I thought of by God Yeah, it's not it's not fair the reaction the audience given, but that's because Alex isn't really giving them time to respond because he's just constantly talking. Yeah, there is the power of the couple of people or a break at all.
Starting point is 01:01:53 But I actually thought that was pretty good. Bicot is not bad. I want to be more of a dick to bicot, but because it is the type of shit that is. It's scamming. Yeah, it's scamming for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that kind of monorail. It's's scamming for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that kind of mon, it's monorail.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's monorail-ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's just that you and I are always gonna have at least a tiny soft spot for wordplay. Especially whenever I can't help but deny that it is above adequate. I also don't think it's original. I'm sure it's a term that has been used a lot
Starting point is 01:02:24 in other places, but weirdly, I don't think I've heard it. I sure in terms that has been used a lot in other places, but weirdly, I don't think I've heard it. I haven't heard anybody use it. I definitely haven't heard anybody use it colloquially. If I've read it, but if you read Bicot versus Boycott, it doesn't give you the auditory nature of it. It's new enough to my brain that I thought well done. That's yeah, well done, sir.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah, that blow is helping. Tip into the cap. Tip into the cap to blow. So they've been planning this for a while. And I say, not as long as you're pretending. This is, that's what this is all about. So we've been talking for six months about doing this. And I said, well, I'm going to keep him
Starting point is 01:02:58 forwards going the great crew we do. And they thought, and I said, what's your idea? And I had my idea already written down. And they said, once a week show build off that Then start building some other shows Painting with the funding we get from this will be able to hire back more reporters do more investigative stuff on the ground At the border and at Bilderberg and at Davos and the RNC and DNC So this is a match made in heaven everybody needs to tell your friends your family your neighbors
Starting point is 01:03:21 How you pay by the word revolution? You don't like what's happening? Well, this is the group. This is the organization that is the best there is. We're not up here saying, you know, we're Superman. We're not up here saying we have all the answers. But you know what? It's not bragging when it's fact. People need to recognize that this operation, what Stephen Crowder and his crew are doing,
Starting point is 01:03:38 is the best open, freeest, biggest thing there is in the world in opposition to the new world order. And how you tune in to my show. You're gonna get you're gonna get hardcore analysis and over the horizon information on what the Globos are planning next is that's all it was studying it. It's hardcore. No, so you risk if you watch it. But the good thing is you can then tune in to the incredible amazing you know better than the nighttime comedy shows, live delivery of these guys, and they make it fun.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And that's why I like the energy here. It's good energy. So yeah, that's my bright spot is maybe this is how we get the painting show. Yep, this might be how we get this might be how we get the painting show. Yeah, but then I'm going to have to get a membership. And then I also was thinking about it, like I have this aversion to covering things that are behind a paywall. And granted, I don't respect Stephen Crowder.
Starting point is 01:04:28 And Alex has already said, you can use anything I make copyright free. But I feel like if it's under the mug club, that is a little bit different. So I was thinking, I don't know how we do this. Because if the painting show ends up existing, it's gonna be an experience, right? Oh, yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So I'm doing an entire spin off show. But I don't know how you can convey it, other than visually. So I don't know what we would do with that, but if you had some other show that I wanted to cover that was on this, I would write transcripts and we could recreate it. That wouldn't be bad, because that's fair use.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Okay, let me pitch you this. Let me pitch you this on the painting show. All right, we do very similar to this, but we've got a three frame kind of situation going on, right? So we got me and a frame you and a frame, and then we got the painting show and the frame center of the frame, and then we do our show around it. I think we can come up with something. We're putting the cart before the horse here because we don't even know if that's going to exist. The painting show. We do. We need it. Yeah. So this has not been being planned for six months.
Starting point is 01:05:28 No. This has been planned since a little bit after Alex heard from the bankruptcy court that he couldn't do his subscription shit on Info Wars. Yep. That is what happened. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And I mean, the end. Good luck. So Alex wraps up here. Yeah. And I honestly feel like this is embarrassing. And if I were him, everything so far has been incredibly embarrassing, but okay, yes, but even more so this dismount.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Make it fun. And that's why I like the energy here. It's quite frankly. Info Wars, great crew, great people. Real bummer. You are in a bunker. We've been doing a 20-sup in years, and it's crazy. So it's a breath of fresh air to just add this family
Starting point is 01:06:04 to what's happened to be part of this organization and to have the info worse crew. Now you becoming part of this organization. Let me just translate this. I have driven my own company into bankruptcy and I abuse my employees so much and create a hostile work environment that it sucks to go into work.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And everyone's miserable there. But now we put a fresh coat of paint on things and now all of our problems have gone away Yep, yeah, it is a breath of fresh air. It really might as well It's a breath of fresh air to escape the problems that I've created You know when I go into a work at a bankrupt company with a billion and a half dollar judgment over my head I am the what I'm the sole talent of yeah, it doesn't feel good But out here. I'm not that.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And people clap for me. Yes, people even clap. Yeah, oh my God, pretty sweet. Yeah. And I'm just blessed and honored, it's incredible. And at 11 a.m., just coming up at about an hour from now, I'll do my live show out of the classic Steven Crowder studios.
Starting point is 01:07:00 We're gonna have these guys in here with us. It's so exciting. So, 11amcent, info wars.com, Forts last show and band out video. But I want everybody watching. That means on info wars everywhere, to be part of this revolutionary act. You want resistance?
Starting point is 01:07:13 You want somebody to stand up? You want somebody to fight? Go now to the mug club. Go now ladies and gentlemen, use the promo codes that are there to get a month off. Do it now. Go to Mud Club. Take action because the globalist one war, they will destroy us.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Well, guess what? We didn't start this fight. We don't want it. But if you want to fight, you back. Oh, I got one. I got one. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 01:07:39 Woo! That, uh, his catchphrase was so shoehorned in there. Yeah. And you can tell there was a music queue You know like when I when I do the when you got a fight You got one. Yeah, that's when you hit it. Yeah That was that was very sad. Yeah, that was the that was like a former star
Starting point is 01:07:58 Opening a dealership with that Like you know like oh, that's my catchphrase And then the music goes off and then the little small fireworks. And then I get my paycheck and I go back to my hotel. I got a deal for you. That's dynamite. Yeah. One hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, uh, that's a road hack gig if I've ever heard one. So I think, um, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I, I oversold this at the beginning as it being a huge announcement. But I guess it is a big announcement in as much as what they're trying to present it as. Sure. But yeah, this is, it's just another stage in the ongoing saga of Alex trying to like find places he can hide money. Yeah, I think here's what's interesting about this. All right. I don't think there are any more big announcements,
Starting point is 01:08:46 you know, like the way we would describe big announcements. Right. That's not gonna happen anymore. What are going to happen are announcements whose potential for going wrong is so great that they all could be big announcements, really. Yeah, announcements that are like deceptive, like coded moves.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Kind of. Yes. I'm announcing that I am doing something that I am not announcing to you, right? Yeah. I'm announcing that I have a scheme. Absolutely. But I am announcing a thing that is not happening
Starting point is 01:09:21 in order to hide the thing that I am trying to do. And I have to think, I mean, whether he understands it or not, crowders in way over his head, like the dangers and possible ramifications of being side responsible to Alex's actions, foolish, just damn foolish. You know, it would worry me. But thankfully, clearly, Stephen Crowder does not have a history of allowing his ego to get outsized beyond what is talent really kind of
Starting point is 01:09:54 can cash. Thank God for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It will be his saving grace. It will be humility. This is what's gonna keep Stephen Crowder going. Among his many wonderful qualities, that might be the largest.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Yeah. So Jordan, we'll be back for another episode, but keep an eye on this space. Keep an eye on the painting Crowder, just face. Could happen. Might happen. Yep.
Starting point is 01:10:17 But until we move back, we have a website. And do we do, it's allgefight.com. Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter at the Atonology.com fight. Yep, we'll be back. But until then'm neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark Do you know what I'm doing there? Stephen Crowder's time song Yeah, yeah, yeah, and now here comes the sex robots and the enchants us here on the earth thanks for holding
Starting point is 01:10:44 So Alex I'm a first time color of a huge fan. I love your work. I love you sex robots. And Ian Tans was sure on the earth thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time color of a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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