Knowledge Fight - #837: March 11, 2004
Episode Date: August 11, 2023Today, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to enjoy some vintage Alex. In this installment, Alex gets real passive aggressive with a caller and covers a couple shootings at secret society initiation...s.
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Indeed, we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. What's up?
There's a great spot today, buddy
Well, I think
Conceivably my bright spot could be some thoughts. I had about the real world road rules challenge sure
But see if I play but we talked at length about them already
Yeah, so there's no need to rehash
These points it's always fun when we're friends off the show and then we're like ha ha fool you people who listen
Well, I'm making up for lost time a little bit because you'd been telling me like that you were watching these newer
C. Jones and all this and I was like Baha humbug no
I used to watch this show and I I no longer have the taste for it.
You did Bahaombug me, that's true.
And I think if the show was exactly the same
or like if it was the same in some of the ways
that I had a problem with the old one being,
I think I would Bahaombug this still.
Fair.
But yeah, we're catching up now.
I'm watching some of this show
and I have to tell you what I thought
because I didn't get to back then.
I understand.
So that's not my bright spot.
No.
But I found some, I showed you also right before the show in my bedroom.
I found some foliage things you can hang on the wall.
Yes.
And so I have decided to turn my bedroom into a jungle. I can't, you know, you can't make the walls run with vines.
Yeah.
Eventually you're going to crack into the walls.
That's just going to be something that gets out of control.
That's just how it works.
I wish it was possible.
I know.
But, you know, when you live in a building with other people and it, it's just not going
to work.
Respect is respect.
Yeah.
So, the next best thing is these squares
that you can put on the wall.
They have fake aster to basically coming out of.
And so I will have my walls lined with plant, fake plants.
What's great about it is that for you,
it's coming from a genuine place of like,
like there's so many guys who could be doing something
like this and you're like,
you're gonna be real creepy to women when they show up,
aren't you?
That's what's going on here.
I just want the outdoors inside.
I know you're like, I like this one.
Yeah, I also have a couple of some flowers and stuff
to put into like, you know, spruce it up.
Sure.
And my friend Angela Lampsbury told me about these lights
that are like fireflies.
See, this is what I'm saying.
Yeah.
And so I'm gonna put those around too.
Put the firefly lights in.
Absolutely.
This is 100% of recipe need to be creepy to women
and you are so excited for you personally.
And no one.
You bet.
You bet.
And I'll, I'll, I'll'll I was trying to figure out a way to
Bray Wyatt whenever people put their lights up
sure he's fireflies sure and I was thinking of the way
to try and work that in as a joke.
And it just didn't work.
Well, so what's your bright spot?
My bright spot Dan is I get you know I've been
been alone living by myself without my wife for a while. Yeah over in Portugal. My bright spot, Dan, is, you know, I've been a little bit alone,
living by myself without my wife for a while,
and over in Portugal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I rearranged the entire living room.
Just moved everything around, set it up
in a completely different direction
because you can only control what you can control.
That is true.
If you're worried about things you can't control, how does that stupid?
You can't control them.
Take control of the things you can control of.
You are, you know, this is a lot like the serenity prayer.
That's how I do it.
That's how I do it.
I am a man of serenity.
That's what people describe me as most often.
Well, I mean, the word is most closely associated
with that episode of Seinfeld, where George
is dead, yells serenity now.
Fair.
So you are in that mold.
I have something of an ironic relationship to serenity.
So now let me ask you a question.
Sure.
Do you know why I was doing that baseline while you were talking about that?
I do not.
Do you know what that baseline was?
I was busy talking, I only listened to myself talk. I have no idea what you've ever done.
I've literally never listened to a word you've said.
Well, you were talking about rearranging furniture.
It was a baseline to limp biscuits song rearranged.
I can't believe I didn't just know that.
Of course.
So crazy.
It's iconic.
Yes.
So you're going to move it back when she gets back or before she gets back?
No, no, no, no, I did a much better job.
It's way more functional.
I think way more practical.
It functions like an actual living room instead of just being a collection of shit we've
thrown on the ground.
Yeah, I mean, I think the last time I was over at your house, the living room was set
up where the couch and the tables had been turned into a giant bed
in the middle of the room.
Yes.
Yes, that was what I had created couch bed.
Yes.
That was a regular situation.
Yeah.
And there were a couple of nooks for Fanny and Jake to hide in.
Right.
Right.
You've not seen since we have removed all of that and replaced it with a giant feedback.
And I feel like I told you about the feedback. I think And I feel like I told you about the bead bag.
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, I told you about the bead bag.
But the bead bag, we tried to put it in the same place
as other stuff and we'd had it there for about a year or so,
but it doesn't make any sense there.
It's a terrible place for it.
So I just finally moved it all to the right spot
and it feels great.
All right.
Awesome.
I nailed it.
She's gonna love it and if she doesn't,
I mean, I'll be back to couch back. I don't think she can pick it up
Well, that's the ultimate victory I suppose
Absolutely
So Jordan today we have an episode to go over. Yes, and it's short. Oh, we're gonna be we're gonna be in it out of here
So I you know, there's present day stuff, you know
We had the Stephen Crowder announcement on Wednesday, and I I, you know, there's present day stuff, you know, we had the Stephen Crowder announcement
on Wednesday.
And I felt like, you know, I don't want to just talk more about that.
Who gives a shit, right?
Check back in and, and what have you?
Yeah.
In the meantime, I've been trying to find episodes to cover for our UK tour, which, hey,
a lot of fun.
I believe you.
Your, your, your problem is you're discarding the woods that don't work and then not just
turning them into the episode we do the next day.
Shit.
Did you did that never even occur to you?
It kind of did, but I thought like some of them you listen to the hours of the show and
then just tossing it aside.
Well, yeah, yes, some of them. I don't know if they would even be all
that interesting for a playing episode of our show.
No, of course.
But yeah, I have two of the shows, two of the four,
two of the four.
Nailed down.
Nailed.
But the pursuit for the other two has been a challenge.
I'm looking forward to the, I'm looking forward to us being on like that day before
one of them just being like I guess we're doing this show from today. Oh shit. I forgot to prepare my speech.
I better cut some clips. Oh no. On the weight of the menu. So I've been doing a bit of that and then
also listening to the 2004 because I like to keep up with that
We're gonna get to the election eventually
It's gonna be great. I'm looking forward to figuring out swift boating and when that came around
It seems like it should have been their way in advance of now and where we're at is a
No man's land. Yeah March
2004 the beginning of it is
Walking through mud deep mud just up to my knee.
I'm guys just, ooh, there's nothing in here.
Ooh, I got nothing to grab onto
to help me move faster through this mud.
It is just a tortured metaphor of a-
There's Johnny Questin quicksand.
It's so bad.
So today we're gonna be talking about the 11th March,
3-11, 2004.
All right. Still not much going on, but but there's enough and I have a few points
Be worth make 311 is enough. Yeah
Does episode's all mixed up. Yep. Don't know what to do. I don't know what to do next thing
You turn around and find the person is you oh no follow trick might be the thing
But you know to be the last so just yeah, you know you can't do a shitty reggaed cover of a cure song. I just
feel like it's wrong. I understand. You gotta trust your instincts. That's me. That's me. Let go
overgrace. Let go overgrace. Alright. Okay. Let's bet on ourselves and say hello to some new walks.
and say hello to some new wags. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the cat lands on a bucket of soda bite poop. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Next buck, nobody, the graveyard janitor wants
to give Celine all the catnip.
Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
The thought is really appreciated on behalf of Celine,
but I will say she's not a drug user.
She's not a catniper.
No, I've tried to mess with her with the catnip
and give her toys with catnip and it doesn't do anything.
Nope.
And she sees through the laser pointer.
She's a chiseled asshole.
Yeah, I know.
Uh, next, Paul M. Thank you so much.
You're an outpulles.
You want.
I'm a policy walk.
Thank you very much.
And hello, Govnaz, go blind me, but that Alex Jones does sound like a Berkeley hunt.
A burk.
I think they're trying to trick me into saying something that's offensive
there.
I believe it's rhyming slang.
Oh, is it Cockney rhyming slang?
It's Cockney rhyming slang.
I tip my hat to your gents.
Thank you so much, you're an out policy walk.
I'm a policy walk.
Thank you very much.
Drifted a little into Australia, though.
Although, if I, I mean, my rhymes are not the greatest, but I'm going to go with, I don't
think we in America want to rhyme with Berkeley hunt all too often
No, that's what that's what that's what that gave me a little suspicion
Well, I mean we're in the States we can rhyme mm-hmm. Yeah, and we have a technical great in the extort
So thank you so much to this is not cocking your rhyming slang, okay, but thank you so much to snicker doodle and the disciples of
E-TEP, thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk.
For start, the honky mother tell her you're brilliant.
Someone, someone,
satamite sent me a book in a poop.
Daddy Shark.
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action.
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
So Jordan, real quick.
Yeah.
I feel like we need to resolve the whole
C word situation between the UK and the US.
Oh yeah.
You know, like the you in color, fine.
I don't care if there's a difference there.
I don't care who, I don't care which side we land on.
I just want standardized English between the two.
The, um, the you is in the food fighters out,
the color in the shape.
Yeah, I see.
So we have to, we're fine with that.
No problem.
Let that one ride.
I kind of agree with you.
And I think that this is the best argument
for a world government.
Yeah.
We just got to standardize.
Just if you were.
Is it offensive or not?
That's all I want to know.
I'll accept a UN one-world government
as long as we just determine for good.
For good. No no backseats.
Well, but isn't your dog's name offensive in England?
I don't think it's offensive.
It's just a reference to the front bottom, my friend.
But I think it's a pretty, it's like a course term.
I mean, it can be used as a course term.
But I'd be about, I pussy is a course term. Oh, whoa it can be used as a course term. But I mean, pussy is a course term as well.
Whoa!
As well, bro!
We use it and we do not use the seawater in the same way.
Now do it.
I guess we don't.
Yeah.
Yeah, we should have some standardization.
I agree.
And then we all get rid of the metric system.
Wait, I would go the other direction.
I think I actually meant to say the other thing.
Okay, I was going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We get rid of everything but the metric system.
And I do mean everything.
What's it called?
What's our system called?
The non metric system?
It's a name.
The DOM system.
The base 12 makes more sense than base 10 system.
What do you want from it?
That sounds right.
Yeah, that does sound right.
So we're gonna talk about March 11th, 2004.
Okay.
But we're also going to talk a little bit about March 10th, 2004, because there's a little
bit of something that's happening that was really bothering me.
And this is, during this time, there was a shooting at a Masonic temple.
And Alex will not, he's talking about it a lot.
Yeah, I mean, that's red meat.
And it's getting annoying.
Yeah, it wasn't accidental shooting.
Sure.
And we'll talk a little bit more about it.
But yeah, he's covering it on the 10th.
And here's some of his business.
He has some ideas about how this is being investigated.
Okay, okay.
I was spurred to expand on this on the website because it's so important.
This was out of New York Daily News, it's also out of the associated press.
I have a total of four different articles on this.
New York Daily News, a secret of initiation ceremony in the basement of a long island Masonic Lodge went tragically
wrong when a member mistakenly pulled out a loaded weapon and fatally shot an inductive
in the face, police said Tuesday.
And William James, 47 of Medford, New York, was pronounced dead at the scene of Monday
Night Shooting inside the Southside Mason lodge said sub-accounting detective
lieutenant jack pitch patrick
first thing we need to do is find out if jack pitch patrick
he's a cop he's got the last name pitch patrick he's in new york uh...
all right now we're getting a bit he's amazing no reason for that
what's the focus of the
constabulary the power structure what
And they just say they're sure it's an accident. Yeah man. He's
names fits Patrick
One more to have to say he's amazing. Oh, so everyone got the fuck out of hair. Where worship in the devil all Irish
Cops in New York are amazing.
Who's that?
Yeah, I guess I feel like I feel like that's not how that worked.
No, no.
I mean, this is classic Alex.
And I love that, just that instinct to make shit up.
Yeah, it's great.
Yeah.
So there was this shooting at this mixonic lodge initiation ceremony
in Long Island and it deserves days of coverage.
Yeah, of course.
So these people were putting on a show where the initiate was seated with cans in front
of them and someone was going to fire blanks while someone else knocked over the can
sneakily.
But the guy doing the shooting accidentally used his own legally carried licensed gun instead
of the one with blanks and he killed the initiate.
Upon realizing what had happened, they called called for help but it was too late.
The guy who shot him was 76 years old and I could totally see how a mistake like this
would happen.
It's not like something that seems like, oh I can't believe this.
No, yeah, if you're a bunch of people playing with guns and then you have a borderline oxygenary and holding a loaded
real firearm at the same time. You could have put it in the front of the
bunch. Why isn't there like a hobby?
When you walk in the door, just put your gun in the coming home. Like that seems
reasonable. That would have been my policy. Oh boy. So the grand master of the New York
Lodge put out a statement clarifying that the whole cans and a gun thing isn't
actually amazing approved ceremony.
Why? Who would have guessed? I can't imagine the secretive
organization that has control of the world is trying to scare people with
poking sticks into cans to make it look like they're shooting guns.
It would be, it would be very hard to sell me.
Okay, so I go in there, I'm gonna be initiated
into your thing and you guys are like, listen.
Oh.
We're hundreds of years old.
Yeah.
Our organization in the shadows, run and shit.
We're big deal.
All right.
Everyone's in hood.
Here's what we do.
The ceiling is bleeding.
Here's what we do. We do to initiate you
exactly what eight year olds in the rural south do to practice
hitting squirrels. But they don't do that. They don't practice
hitting like to shoot squirrels by knocking over those cans with a stick.
No, that's true. I thought they were going to shoot them. No, yeah.
Yeah. So this is a prank that that particular group woven to their ritual without the higher-ups approval
Oh my god. The grandmaster went on to say that quote guns positively do not play a role in any officially sanctioned ceremony
The guy who did the shooting played guilty to criminally negligent homicide and got five years probation
Sure in court. He cried about what had happened and how the deceased was his friend.
Yeah, of course.
It's just terrible stuff.
Tragedy for the shooter and even more so for the family members who lost a husband and
father, but they're really all just props for Alex.
Yeah.
This story involves the Masonic Lodge and this is an election with two skull and bones
candidates.
So this is fucking red meat for him.
It's so good.
You couldn't ask for a better narrative.
Yeah.
He loves it.
I mean, come on folks.
Guns, just don't put them in, and I, that, fine.
We're gonna have guns, there's no escaping them.
There's no escaping guns, but if you just don't put them
in your rituals, you're gonna save somebody's life.
Well, you introduce an interesting question,
and that is, what is it that Alex is mad about here?
Like, what exact, what act that took place
is Alex upset about, because it can't be
that reason that he's gone.
It owns it in his pocket.
Registered?
Everything's right.
Everything is a plunge right.
He's carrying legally.
The ritual is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Everything's right. Everything is. Everything is right. He's carrying legally. The ritual is protected by the First Amendment of the United States. It's performance.
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean, he has the right to carry it loaded.
Mm-hmm. It's, it is a concealed carry New York State, right? I believe so. And I,
well, for everything, everything he did was legal, except for the shooting.
Right.
That was the big problem there.
Yes.
Now, I'm going to throw this out there.
And that is a mistake.
It does seem like, though, that is the main purpose of a gun to do the thing.
Yes.
The thing that we all agreed was the problem in this.
Well, the only problem in this scenario is that he had two guns.
He should not have had two guns. Right. No, but
that's not the same. That's not what it is for Alex. No, because Alex thinks it's a murder. Alex
thinks it's a premeditated murder. Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, that samurai shouldn't be carrying two
swords. Get that one, Cassage, out of here. Well, if one's sharpened, one's dull for a prop than maybe not so alice here on the tenth goes on uh... to pretend that he's not
alleging a gigantic conspiracy and uh... but maybe it's an accident that
is blue this guy's head off
just by accident he just have just so happen at the two guns in there and
he just didn't know he just pulled one out
well shot the guy in the head.
So happens we're finding these articles going back at other Masonic and a
clan meeting.
It's just magically somebody dies.
And just so happens that Hiram Abiff, going to was killed by his fellow
masons and they normally do do the simulated murders.
But sometimes people seem to die.
The police always say it's just an accident and somebody gets a few months in jail or has to
have to pay a fine, but the sacrifice does take place.
We're not saying that happened here. No, no, no, we're sure the police officers
are investigating right. There's no big deal,
and just somebody's got their head blown off,
they're sure.
So Alex is playing coy there,
but part of that is probably due to the fact
that he's alleging a gigantic conspiracy,
and I don't know if he wants the audience
to fully understand exactly how big
what he's alleging is here.
If what are you saying is true?
Mm-hmm.
It literally goes to the
very top. Yes, the accidental killing is not actually an accident
according to Alex. It was a pre-planned murder carried out as a ritual and the
police investigating the crime are complicit with the mason's you know if it's
Patrick. And then the legal system is giving a slap on the wrist to the guy who
carried out the ritual because someone has to pay a small price as also kind of a performance and the ritual had to be carried out. Alex's explanation for this
is overcomplicated compared to believing that a 76 year old dude with two guns in his pocket could
get them mixed up. Alex knows that his version of the story is a stretch which is why he buttresses it
with these alleged cases of other Masonic initiation murders, which he provides no examples of.
And also why he plays the, oh no,
I'm sure it's an accident game there
at the end. It's ludicrous.
He knows what he's saying is fucking stupid.
And if the audience actually clearly
looked at what he's saying,
it's a bit much.
There's a much easier explanation for this.
Yeah, I, I, I mean,
here's what I can't stop thinking about.
No, I can't stop thinking about that this Masonic Temple, I, I want to,
I want to not believe this is true, but I do think it's possible that the leader
was just going to his higher ups and was like, oh, we've got this idea for a prank.
We're just going to add to the initiation thing.
And he's like, listen, I understand why you think that's fun.
But funny.
I don't, I just don't think it's a good idea.
I respect your creativity, but I don't want to do it
And then this happens and then there's that he just walks into the room
Just walks into the room. No this happens and then it cuts to the next day
The grandmaster is sitting at his desk like tapping a pen onto his folder. Yeah
Sitting at his desk, like tapping a pen onto his folder. Yeah!
Guy walks in.
What's he doing?
You are so fired.
What's he doing, buddy?
You're fired from the newspaper?
What we talked about.
Do you remember what we talked about earlier?
Ah, man.
All right, we're gonna transfer you to a different one.
So do you know anything about Hyrum Abyss?
I do not know anything about Hyrum Abyss.
Hyrum Abyss.
Hyrum Abyss. I don not know anything about Hyram Abyss. Hyram Abyss. Hyram Abyss.
I don't think he's a real person.
There was a hyram that's mentioned
as one of the builders of Solomon's Temple,
but he's become like a legendary Masonic character.
Okay.
In terms of like Hyram Abyss,
the person, personage itself,
is probably not what the
historical, the referenced hyrone is. But he's a, he was in charge
of, as the story goes, the construction of Solomon's Temple. Three lower, this is again,
just the story. This is the legend. This is not history. Yes, yeah. But as the story goes,
three lower level masons are cost him and demand that he tell them the master
Mason secrets he refuses and then they try to get the secret out of him by torture and
Ultimately killing it's not a ritual killing like Alex would want it to seem right and the message of the story seems more about like secrecy
And the existence of this lost word that died with him, this lost secret.
The weirdest part is that they were all Irish cops.
Oh no, all of his Patrick's.
So this is the only example of a Masonic killing
that Alex offers up to support his argument here on the 10th.
And I find it to be so weak.
Yeah, that's, he's digging back to the time
of the building of Solomon's time.
I heard of it.
This is not news.
I've listened, you know, I understand.
As bad as blaming people for Jesus's death is, man,
this one goes back way further.
You can't hold a grudge on this one any longer.
You just can't.
A biff, a biff.
Hi, I'm a biff, sounds like one name too.
It doesn't sound like two names.
It's also a pretty cool name.
I would, I give it to the Mason. I would like. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that.
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and Alex barely covers it, but he does cover it at the beginning of the show.
Okay.
All right. Let's dive straight into the news. Explosions in Madrid, burst open train cars,
scattering bodies, filling more than 170 people and wounding more than 600 at the height of the rush hour
commute according to witnesses and interior minister, Angel Ace Bees. I'm pronouncing
that right. A series of explosions. I'm going to go after passenger train. Here you
know. The grid area is the day. The blasts which came just days before the Spanish general
elections were so powerful, the train cars were burst open in bodies of passengers
blown out into the roads and don't worry they'll catch a few patsies and torches of
the living daylights of them. What? It's been caught blowing stuff up again and now they're
admitting that there's not even a real election in Russia. The same thing goes on in Spain,
England, the US, over and over again they'd blow stuff up right before elections and you vote
for whoever's in power to save you.
So the Madrid train bombings were not a false flag.
And in fact, we're carried out by local terrorist groups, a group in Spain.
Yeah.
They likely had involvement with Al Qaeda.
There's one of the things that's almost really, really, really hard to definitively prove,
but there's a strong belief that they had involvement with our guide.
The precise motive for the attack is not fully known and it may actually have been slightly different for different members of the cell itself.
Interestingly in the aftermath of the bombing conspiracy theories began to emerge about who was responsible for the attack and the leading group in that was the right-wing peoples party or P.P.
Prior to the election, they'd been in the majority of the Cortes Generalis, and in
the immediate days after the bombings, they would point the finger strongly at the ETA,
a BASC nationalist terrorist group.
The ETA was a far-left organization in addition to being BASC separatists, so they were a prime
target for the P.P.
but there was no evidence of their involvement in the bombing.
Many believe that the existing government didn't want to accept the possibility of an Islamic terrorist organization
being responsible because it would call into question the choice to send troops to the war in Iraq.
The prime minister at the time of the bombings, Jose Maria Aznar was in power for that decision
and was a member of the P.P. In the end, the center left party, the PSOE gained seats
while the P.P. lost seats, making the PSOE the largest power in the Congress and shifting
the presidency. A look at the polling data does show that in the weeks leading toward
the election, the P.P. was looking like the presumptive favorites, but after the attack, public opinion shifted
sharply toward the PSOE. This was a really big upset, and the timing of the change of opinion
is notable. With many analysts declaring the election result, a punishment for the PP, both
for the unpopular decision to get involved in Iraq for their response to the bombing and the campaign of misinformation
about blaming the ETA-Basks separatists.
Yeah, that's called consequences.
So this is a fascinating situation where Alex has a conclusion decided immediately after an event happens,
which in this case is that the bombings were a false flag to terrorize the public and sway the election.
In the end, the bombings weren't a false flag, but public reactions to it definitely did sway the election.
So in essence, the effect is what you'd expect to see if Alex were right.
You know, there is a giant effect on the voting.
Yeah.
In logic, if you were to take what Alex, like the consequence existing as being proof
of the if statement, that is what's known
as affirming the consequent.
In the formal structure, you'd see this as like,
if a then b b therefore a,
this feels like it works oftentimes
when you don't pay attention to it, but it doesn't.
Take a real world example of this to see what I mean.
Like, here's one.
If I drank a bottle of vodka, I'm drunk.
I'm drunk.
Therefore, I drank a bottle of vodka.
It doesn't work.
But when you're not paying attention to the relationship between ideas, it can be very
easy to let something like this slip by and not realize that there's a hundred different
reasons why
B could have happened.
Yeah.
And the logical statement doesn't hold.
Well, I mean, for me, I think the lesson that we should have and cannot maybe ever learn
because it's in the government's best interest for us never to do so after 9-11 is that terrorists
acts are a consequence, not the inciting event.
Well, let's put this a little bit more broadly.
They exist within a continuum of actions
that like one side didn't start, the other side
didn't start necessarily.
There's a confluence of things and to look at
it look at it without context is right is right right it is it is in the governments of best
interest to say they hate our freedoms it is not in their best interest to say well this is a large
tapestry of back and forth that has been going on since the fucking crusades or whatever you want to
talk about you know sure you know that kind. Yeah, one article I was reading actually said that the crusades might have been partially
a potential motivating factor for one of the people who was part of the terrorist cell.
Why the fuck not?
If you're gonna, you're already picking some random ass shit at the end of the day, you
know, it's arbitrary which one you pick.
Pick any number of crimes that you hate somebody for as far as the government is concerned. You know, you're arbitrary which one you pick. Pick any number of crimes that you hate somebody for
as far as the government is concerned.
You know, you're not gonna run out.
Sure.
But in order to look at it like that, right,
we would then basically get rid of the concept of a false flag.
Because why would you ever have a false flag?
It's the consequence of the government's actions.
You know, it's not the government trying to do something
in response to something, it is something responding
to the government's actions.
So that's why it is called, that's why
actually you would find other ways to share.
Absolutely.
That's fair enough.
And I would say also one thing I wanna just make a fine point of in that clip, Alex is
saying that they always do this before the election to mess with the election results.
And that's fair, or at least in terms of what happened, there was a giant effect on
the voting results.
Sure, sure, sure.
But at the end of that clip, he said that it's to keep the people in power, in power
to give you security as opposed to them, which is the opposite of what happened.
Right.
But I'm going to guarantee that when the elections happen, Alex is going to say that
it was a false flag in order to get the PSO in power.
100%.
I guarantee it.
100%. So if he talks about it at all.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, considering, I mean, this is a giant terrorist attack
that happens.
Yeah.
And considering that there's really almost no discussion
of it outside of a little bit.
Yeah.
It's a little weird.
Maybe you won't talk about it.
Maybe.
I don't know.
So we had that long island shooting.
Sure. Sure, sure, sure, sure, Mason. We have another one. Oh we had that long island shooting. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.
Mason's we have another one. Oh, but Mason's no. Oh, it's the clan. I don't know why. But here we are.
Same difference, I guess. I've been talking a lot about the New York
Daily News and other stories that have trying to find my KKK article.
The came out along island with the Gillillotine and now the skull alters and
Some bizarre type of torture chamber real quick. That's the way he's describing the
Basement of the long island Masonic lodge there were like props and stuff around sure sure so there was like a guillotine
Yeah, yeah, I got it. It's good on beyond it's like me putting folia jump
It is it is like if you go to the Hell House where people,
like Alex's version of an abortion clinic
is that Hell House like, no, step you in.
It's your first time in the basement of a Masonic lodge.
And it's a finished basement with like just some nice chairs.
That's a bummer.
You wanna get you down there.
You wanna get you down the couch. It's just decorative. It's fun. Yeah, that's a bummer. You want to get you down there? You want to get you down the. Even if it's just decorative.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, the Christian conservatism of, so what bushing all
them are into, they're the same stuff in the tomb at Yale.
And blowing this guy's head off, this Mason blue one of the
initiates had off.
And now there's a bunch of other articles about it as new horrors start coming out.
But the police let an hour and a half of being there. It's a total accident we're sure
of it. They normally don't declare that for a few weeks. Ranjuri looks at it, the DA
looks at it. But man, they seem to know in these cases. Alex is misrepresenting when police
immediately say there's no signs of foul play. That doesn't mean that they're a-ha,
nothing to see here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That means something very specific,
but Alex can exploit the way that people see that.
And the people who were there were incredibly cooperative.
Of course they were.
Their statements were taken.
This was a horrible tragic accident.
Yeah.
I mean, he might as well, if a refrigerator
fell through the ceiling,
and it was this guy's fault for shooting up into the ceiling
And the refrigerator fell down the land and on this guy it would be that functionally the exact same level of tragic accident for the exact same purpose
Yeah
Are there cans on the ceiling that you're trying to shoot big ones, okay
I say these cases because it seems to happen
Quite often that it's all just an accident.
Man hit by a stray bullet in KKK and initiation ceremony. This is out of the Sydney Morning
Herald. There's a lot of these articles we found but it's covering the US. A bullet fired in the air
that doesn't happen. You don't fire bullet in the air and then have it have it hit somebody
E30 yard from you that thing you know they always come down they have to come down they don't go in space of
600 yards away. Don't go into space
Just the way the arc works, but
So that shows that that's ridiculous a bullet fired in the air during a Ku Klux Klan
those, that's ridiculous. A bullet fired in the air during a Ku Klux Klan
initiation ceremony came down and struck a participant
in the head, critically injuring him, authority said.
By the way, it didn't strike one of the idiots standing around
in the satanic regalia.
It didn't, it of course hit the initiate,
the person being tortured.
Just magically in these cases hits them,
but it's always an accident
Gregory Allen Freeman 45 with charge with aggravated assault and reckless endangerment in the incident that wounded Jeffrey Murr 24 on Saturday night
About about 10 people including two children had gathered for the white supremacist group ceremony
And it says the man who was being
initiated was white folded, tied with a noose to a tree, and shot with paintball guns as
Freeman fired a pistol into the air to provide the sound of real gunfire Sheriff Ed Grable said.
So Alex hasn't read this story or he's willfully lying, which you can tell because he's screwing
up a bunch of details in order to make it fit his narrative. Also, I don't know if the Clan and the Maasons are
the same thing. I know they are to Alex, but I don't accept that premise. They are not the same thing.
So here are just a few of the things that Alex got wrong in that coverage. First, the bullet that
struck someone wasn't shot into the air and came down to hit somebody. This guy, Gregory Freeman, was hit
by a paintball while he was shooting in the air, which caused him to fire off an errant
shot that hit somebody. Oh my God. Yeah. Do you expect better from the clan initiates
ceremony? Damn it. Yeah. The person also, the person hit by this errant bullet was not
the initiate in the ceremony. Carl Mitchell, the third was the one being initiated by being tied to a tree and shot with
paintballs. Conversely, Jeffrey S. Murr was the guy hit by Freeman's bullet right in
the head. Mitchell yelled at the rest of the clansmen to cut him down.
And then he went on to provide first aid to Murr.
So he seems like he passed that test. What a good initiate.
Yeah.
You know, he's tied to a tree and then a buddy gets shot in the head still trying to help.
Yeah. Um, good dude. So yeah, there's a number of details Alex gets wrong here because
if he didn't get them wrong and he reported this correctly, it would be a lot more difficult
to fit this into the mold of the story he's telling about the Long Island. Smash cut to the KKK guy go to the save Long Island Mason boss just be like, all right.
We shouldn't have done the ritual part.
I get that the paint balls aren't loud enough.
It was just off.
It was just off the Long Island thing.
I understand that maybe we made a similar mistake, but you can't like man. I'm gonna have to let you go
You're so fun. You're fired from the client fired from racism
So Alex takes calls for most of the rest of the show
Yeah, and there's some conversation about what do the mason's even do like what good are they when I was growing up
my best friend in
elementary school,
his dad was a Mason, and we went to the Mason,
Masonic Temple a few times and play Magic Gathering.
So I believe that the Mason's invented Magic,
the Gathering, or Magic, whichever you choose.
And have a community room where kids can play games.
I think it's a great community center.
There's nice.
I don't know.
I mean, I know there's a number of charitable and community-based things that they're involved in. But the only one
that this clip seems to take into consideration is a child's burn unit or something. Sure. And I
only kept this clip in because Alex is a real dick. Now imagine, this is going all over the place.
Imagine if you were I tried tried to get a place,
looks like a mausoleum, do this kind of stuff.
If we weren't Mason's man, we'd have police raids on us.
Oh, yeah, they're doing it.
But because they're doing it, oh, it's no big deal.
People say, oh, they've got children's burn shooters.
They can't be bad.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, that's there in Tennessee.
And ask yourself, what are the great tax ride off?
And how many burned children are there, really folks?
Six.
That's a big question.
Thank you for the call.
That's a big question.
How many burned children are there, really?
Yeah.
Hey, asshole, helping these burned children.
How many of them are there?
How many are there?
What? Five? What are you talking about? You're wasting your time. Mass-hole, helping these burn children. How many of them are there? How many are there? How many are there?
What?
Five?
What are you talking about?
You're wasting our time.
Wow.
I, you know what?
I'm going to give, I'm going to give them one thing.
All right.
The Lions Club doesn't get this much shit.
True.
If you want it, if you want to not get as much shit,
don't name yourself the Masons or whatever.
Name yourself something weird like the Lions Club.
I bet they could be doing all kinds of evil shit.
You wouldn't suspect the Lions Club
of being behind the goddamn government.
What do you bet they are?
No one suspects the Lions Club.
You don't want to suspect the Lions Club.
You've got little fucking minutes.
Yeah.
And I want to say this to Alex.
Yeah.
You know how many burn kids there are? Way more than you think. So many. Yeah, and I want to say this to Alex. Yeah, you know how many burn kids there are way more than you think so many
Yeah, so many you're trying to minimize there is definitely more there's so many fires every day
Oh my god and skin grafts are so fucking expensive. Oh, yeah
God and you just scars for it. Ah, but I was I just liked Alex's
His response how many burn kids are how many burn kids are I think he thought like man I fucking nail
I bet it's not even that big of a problem. Yeah, so another guy calls in sure and he wants to know a
Citation from Alex, which is always trouble. That is interesting. Apparently the globalists want to turn the United States into a third world country
Hard that before and so this guy wants a little
show me where that is
uh... right now let's go to bill in ohio bill go ahead
let's uh... listen i heard you i believe yesterday
i feel that you are perhaps i guess at some point
the reference to uh... individual who had
without an article uh some time in the past referring to their
desire to see the United States or their belief, I guess, that the United States'
extended living had to be reduced down to the level of the rest of the world.
I'd like to know what publication was that?
Hundreds, hundreds.
I've heard MPR do have some known known natural TV the OECD organization of economic cooperative
development has set it the IMF the World Bank has set it the
Joseph's sickle until the World Bank when he quits that they're
planning it the World Bank documents say it they're posted in the
interview section of info wars dot com it is the stated policy that we've got to lower our center of living
you have it uh... on your website all over the place you know it's
distributed to the where you can find it that's thousands of places
yeah we got thousands of uh... references he got zero yeah
uh... i mean i know that there is
always talk of needing to reduce inequality.
Reduce inequality in the world, and there's sort of voluntary changes to our consumption
patterns and our standard of living that we can make.
We're not being forced to make.
Globalists aren't making us make. And simultaneously, there's things that can be done
to really help boost standard of living
in the developing world.
And these are the conversations that Alex takes
and tweaks and turns into these thousands of references
for this caller, which is useless.
Yeah.
What, I'm not gonna look at every article from the NPR.
What the fuck are you doing?
Okay, okay, so here's what we do.
Here's what I do if I was Alex.
I'm creating my own in.
I'm creating my great firewall version of the internet.
I'm doing China's version of the internet.
And then if I say something like this shit
where I'm like, uh, hundreds, thousands of articles,
I would have somebody just like throw chunks of text
like what I kind of said onto different articles all over the,
so you could Google something I said,
and it'd be like a fucking,
a men's health magazine article from 1974
and it still pop up like,
see, I told you this is what it's made,
everybody's saying it, it's everywhere.
I mean this sincerely.
Yeah.
Even with the fairly early internet,
when Alex was coming up,
or you know, by 2004, it is what it is.
You know, it's not present day,
but you know, it's a functional internet.
It's still going, yeah.
It would be fairly easy for him to provide his primary sources that are behind
so much of this. And, you know, if you want to commit to like, this is all really just about Gary
Allen and W. Cleanskows and and weird shit. My grandpa told me and then a bunch of science fiction
books that I read. Then we could assess it based on that.
You know, it's not fair to completely hide everything that you're basing your worldview on
because you know you'd be laughed out of the room if you did.
That is very much both cheap.
It is so much like, yeah, obviously it's not fair.
And then you're like, well, obviously that's why you did it.
You know, because if he,
because that's the only way to do it,
it's unfairly.
Yep, cause it's just not fair.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, Alex complains quite a bit about churches,
having 501, C3.
I agree.
Different reasons.
Oh, I believe that.
I believe that.
Yes, I believe that too.
And then he gets another call.
And this is pointless, the actual subject matter but i thought this
was delicious passive aggression uh here's a question
Alex how can we avoid being um you know having that
having those things in our body you can't they're going to mount on these new police
vehicles really quick she was asking about nanotech in our bodies
because she's worried about nanotech in our bodies yeah because
she's worried about being in food yeah and then because she's like oh they're
gonna put tracker things in our food chair but then you would just go pass
through your system and I'll take not if there's nanotech in it lodges in your
guts there you go so he's created a new thing for her to be afraid of science and
so now she's like how do I avoid avoid this? How it's a good question.
You can't.
Lots of things Darth Vader would drive.
Microwave guns, sound cannon.
I'm not talking about the RFI feature.
Well, no, I'm trying to just give you an example.
The RFI, you look.
Huh?
I was going to talk.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, no, go ahead.
You asked the question.
You ready?
I'll tell you. How can we avoid getting those RFID chips in our body?
Okay. Well, let me go over that. Okay, sir.
We'll know. I mean, I'll just tell you. I'm really concerned about this. This is pretty scary stuff.
I'm going to tell you. All right. Oh, lady. Look, the product code, the universal product code, the bar code did not get fully accepted
until 1986.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, this is Alex Furious in 2004.
Yep, you're so mad.
Woo!
Yeah!
Love it.
Yeah, that's such the difference in customer service between people who need something from
you and people who think they own a captive audience forever.
Yeah, that to me is just good, clean fun.
Yeah, that is.
Here and now, it's like, well, I was gonna answer.
I was going to say something.
Uh huh.
No, you go ahead.
You go ahead.
I'm just a guy with a radio show. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely. All right, so papyrus, it's not just a word for fun.
So Alex gets another call, and this guy brings up
numerology.
Sure.
And so Alex weaves it into symbols, maybe like
the Saturnian cube.
Oh God.
Let us now talk to Kristen Florent, another caller from Florida.
Go ahead.
Good to be with y'all except
i just wanted to uh... bring something to your attention and you've gone over
numerous times about uh... are the directly between numerology in our wonderful
occult government
uh... stock listen gentlemen today and apparently we figured out that uh... it's
been exactly nine hundred and eleven days between the world's work trade
center bombings and today's tax in spain
oh uh... somebody ought to do the math on that email it to me or i should have
a
ha ha ha ha
and uh... that they are obsessed with numerology and for those that are
doubting and here's an example
and numerology and iconology icons
i can't copy so all-seeing i dripping coffee into a cup
uh... triple sixes everywhere the goddess symbol with the two serpents
Coiled about and I mean again
It is the back of the dollar bill. It's the time Warner symbol. It's everywhere. It's just amazing. I can't believe it
It is just a man to believe it when you look around the psychopaths are not backing down
We've got this stand up against them.
So I have two important points.
What's that?
First is that numerology and iconology,
it's a, I don't know what they're connected.
It's the same thing.
It's okay, fine.
Numbers, symbols, what is a number,
but a symbol of a number?
I don't disagree with that.
The numbers are in some ways symbols.
But, yes, they are not the same in the context what Alex is saying.
Second, Alex is talking about all this like this iconography, the dollar bill and the
Starbucks having the all seeing eye dripping coffee into the goddess.
This is all seeing eye drip coffee.
Maybe back then did I don't know.
But anyway, how different is this from what the
Q-shaman was saying? You know, like this idea that they put all these images around in order
to give us bad energy or something, like why isn't in 2004? Why isn't Alex telling this
caller that the globalists are just trying to feed Saturn? Because you didn't talk about
the devil openly back then. You did a little bit. Well, you did not nearly to the level.
You did in the like Pat Robertson,
it's a life and death struggle against Islam.
That's the way you talked about God.
Alex talks about the devil in terms
that have the deniability of like,
you think he's literally possessing people
and demons and stuff.
You know, I wonder how much bigotry really was like...
Focus in towards Islamophobia in that time period where it would otherwise not have been.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
There was so much Islamophobia going on at the time. Yeah. How many people who were otherwise-
They were too busy. Yeah, they were like, oh, I would love to be bigoted towards LGBTQ
people today, but I'm just too, Islamophobic because of the government and the media and
stuff like that, you know? Like that's an interesting question. I don't know if it quite works
that way. No, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
It's an interesting question to see
if there's some sort of bottleneck
where it's like a certain amount of cooperative racism
bottles, you know?
Well, I do think a lot of it is based on fear,
like, you know, or at least some of the ways
that that bigotry gets hooks and people
is through.
Focused around fear.
Yeah, appeals to fear. Yeah yeah yeah and certainly in the time around the Iraq war and after
9-11 the Zambafobia was very very attached to fear yeah yeah there was one fear
and it was like the the it almost could feel like other bigotries you might have aren't as important because they're not as scary as
You know Muslims are being made out to be at this period of time. I don't know. I wonder if that's ever been studied
I'd say I mean well, I mean you got a figure I just
It should look into this I'm gonna be the world's pioneer on the
I mean look into it and see if someone else is on the
stuff obviously dad
obviously
of
uh... no
the
a group in a small town in the middle of fucking nowhere and there were people who were legitimately like
what would we do
in an actual like okay somebody's gonna terror attack our fucking town in the middle of nowhere.
You know, like, that was a very real
and present fear for these people.
Sure.
That's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, I've not-
I think I've told this on the show before,
but on 9-11, I was in Columbia, Missouri
in a high school class, in a culinary arts class or whatever,
and they had us duck under the counter.
You know, because like, there was some kind of an idea that maybe, you know, but there was
just fear.
Yeah.
And here's the problem, I think, with the studying, the specific thing that you're talking
about.
The only way you'd really be able to track it, I think, is finding people who were like
aggressively Islamophobic and then seeing if they posted more broad hate afterwards.
Yeah.
And that, I don't know.
It would be very difficult to quantify this.
Oh, no, no, no, I bet self-reporting is going to be the way to understand this one for real.
I'm going to look at their Facebook timelines.
So we have one last clip here and Alex has an announcement.
All right.
Dean and California working with Stephen Crowder. Yeah, hello Dean
Hey, man, you're making a great impact all the way out here to the west coast
I put up and there's a lot of mine diggers. Where are you in California? Well, I live in Manhattan Beach, but I work in Long Beach
Well, you'll be able to hear me on Kogo and KFI and all of tonight. I'm going to be on coast to coast for a couple hours.
I listen to that show regularly.
I'm going to definitely check out.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So Alex is beginning to go on coast to coast at this point.
I believe this one might actually even be his first appearance on coast to coast.
I'm not sure.
If it's not, it's his second. Let's say. Yeah. And this is, this
is kind of something that I want to make a strong point of. George Norie is inviting
Alex on. And through negligence or ill will, he is giving Alex a giant career boost.
Alex and him have both, you know, they've had conversations about how like it was one
of the things that really took Alex to the next level, being on coast to coast.
And I think that George Norrie sucks.
I do.
I don't know if he's as bad as a lot of Alex's guests, but he sucks. But I think he, as a radio show host,
fell into all the same traps that everybody does.
Alex is just an interesting guy.
He has some interesting opinions.
The media thinks he's a crazy person.
So let's talk to him.
Then you don't listen to his show.
And in 2004, he's having Nazis on all the time.
He's had text Mars on just fairly recently.
He has Mel Gibson's dad on.
There's real problems with Alex's show.
And when you're somebody who doesn't really pay attention
and don't, yeah, whatever, I'm not gonna listen
to the shows of the people I book and provide a huge platform for.
When you don't do that, you're going to get duped
by the everyone's against him
because he has kooky ideas.
And that's so useful for Alex, it's so fucking useful.
But this, at this point, should have been shut down.
Yep.
Like, or at least not gone on coast to coast
and gotten like probably, I don't know, a million new fans.
No, that's probably the foundational bump for him.
That was like the first bump that sustained growth.
Yeah, because he goes back on coast to coast pretty regularly.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, but it is so much like
when we were coming up in comedy, you know,
that like, I'm running my show,
I'm gonna book people who can give me opportunities as well,
you know, oh, this person runs a show,
I'm gonna book them on my show
because I can get booked on their show,
not because I think they're super funny
or because I watch them or because every time
I see them perform, I'm excited.
I don't even really care.
And that's when you get into situations where you're like,
oh, he's always been nice to me.
He's always been really nice to me.
Well, I'm taking personal life out of this.
Sure.
So the analogy for you would have to be
you've never gone to see this person perform
and you book them on your show.
And then they do a fine standup set
and you're promoting their show
and on their show it's nothing but Nazi shit.
I mean, well, I mean, that's fair.
I mean, more of the interpersonal dynamics here.
The dynamics at play are,
I am giving you this platform for an exchange
and that exchange has nothing to do with performance I am giving you this platform for an exchange.
And that exchange has nothing to do with performance, or your show, or the quality of your show.
Yeah, I tend to like that.
I do, it's an unequal exchange, obviously,
because Nory has a larger audience.
Sure, sure, sure.
But there is a thing that Alex provides that he needs, which is, you know, just something
for the mill.
Cred, no, no, no, I mean, crazy person.
That's what I mean.
You know, you're going to run out of things to talk about ghosts, you know, like eventually,
you know, so you need a fairly regular supply of interesting people who are willing to
say, shit, that's nonsensical.
Right.
Um, and so Alex can provide that for George, and George can provide him with a large audience.
Now, Alex isn't gonna sail this anti-Semitic bigoted shit on coast to coast.
That's part of the arrangement.
And I do wonder how much George Norrie would be conscious of that because
I do think he sucks. I think he has terrible politics. He's annoying. He's a good at that
must at. Nah, he's mustaches fine. But I don't know if he would be like not knowing Alex
at all. Sure. Would he be willing to like get on board with like text Mars?
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, but you know what?
As I say that, I realize I don't know if text Mars has been on.
Yeah.
I was very well.
Might have you.
You're you're already way too late, my friend.
I know Steve Puchanic was on.
Yeah.
I suppose the question then is really this, is Alex just smart enough to, or just like
savvy enough to unspoken, I'll never reveal how racist I am on your show.
And I think there's a fair amount of K-thabe.
Yeah, but I mean, he had no idea, just no clue, to the point where there was no need
to have any conversation in advance of just like, hey, you know what you're supposed to
not say, right?
I not see.
I think that you'd have to watch a bit of Alex's show and you'd have to read between
some of the lines and look into the people he's talking to and what they mean by the things
that they say in order to get the character of the message that look into the people he's talking to and what they mean by the things that they say
in order to get the character of the message
that Alex is putting out at this time.
So I don't believe the George Norris capable of that,
given his schedule, you know, like it wouldn't be possible.
You know, it has just really occurred to me
that we have never really wrestled with how much power just having three hours to talk is.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah.
It is a lot.
It's for a daily show to have that much time.
It's, it's, it's, but in order for it to actually have the power energized, you do need to also have an audience.
Sure, sure, sure, but that's, I mean, you know, what you're there.
But coast to coast as such a luxury of being like
one of the very few super late night,
like actual shows.
Right, right.
You know, things are rebroadcast over night and what have you.
But, you know, for the people who are staying up late,
you know, that's what it's for.
Yeah, I loved it.
I mean, I hate listen.
In my time. I get it. It's all legs.
I forgot about that. I forgot.
Guys, a fucking idiot. Anyway, Jordan, yes, we'll have a be back for another episode on Monday. But until then, we have website.
It's all legs junk.
We're all so Twitter.
It's not trying to comment.
It's at Knowledge and Discourify.
That is correct.
We will be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
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