Knowledge Fight - #839: August 16, 2023

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

In this installment, Roger Stone provides a very unbiased critque of the newest Trump indictment and Alex pitches a theory that the Maui fires were a false flag.

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I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game.

And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. like to sit around We're gonna put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe Indeed we are Dan Jordan. Dan. I have a quick question for you today sir. So it's great But my bright spot today Jordan is a big one. What's that? That is that I got my passport Yeah

So We put the cart before the horse a little bit in terms of putting together this tour Legally you were not allowed to do the tour that we had put together We believed at the time of making the decision that there would probably be enough time based on the stated turnaround times from the state Department of how quick you could get a passport And so we're like fuck it, let's do it. If I don't have my passport, maybe there's something else we could do. I don't know.

Maybe there's an emergency option or something. I got TSA pre-check, my man. How dare you. It was anxiety provoking. But, you know, in a rare big ups, I got to say big ups to the State Department that it was quick. It was surprisingly fast. And we could definitely do the tour. I mean, yeah, you know, cheers and cheers.

The State Department made a lot of missteps in the past agreed. This time, they got it right. They got it right. Under promise and over deliver. No, that's what you do. This make up for the sins of the past. Well, uh, Past secretaries of state, like Kissinger.

I was gonna say, I was trying to figure out if Kissinger personally got this faster to you, because that's the only way there's a mitigation. So I think he still got a lot left to pay for. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, I'm excited to have that renewed. It's something I had always meant to renew and then just never got around to it because there wasn't cause for it. And I was living hand-to-mouth in a way that

leaving the country felt like, well, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, let's not worry about my passport right now. Exactly. Selling blood. Yeah. Yeah. It's a whole different world of concerns. And so, yeah, now I haven't been able to maybe take a trip or two here and there. I certainly bucket list like to get over to Easter Island. It's a point. It's about it. I know. I know you really want to go there. Yeah. Australia. We're looking at you. Sure.

Sure. We're coming. Definitely. Australia, we're looking at you. Sure. Sure. We're coming. Definitely. Gotta get Jordan's ass kicked down under. I need to be beaten up in all hemispheres. Yes. Kick Jordan's ass and take him out to the outback. Oh, yeah.

Well, don't take me to the outback. I'm scared of a lot of things that kill you out there. Yeah. Dingo is going to team up with a gator. That's problematic. I'm more, listen, scorpions. Scorpions are the thing for me. They got the tail thing.

They do. They're like spiders, spiders are scary, but spiders have teeth, I got teeth. We can work this out, you know. You can bite each other. Scorpion tail, nothing I can do about that. Yeah, and then beat them. And it does seem unfair the way the tail works.

It's unfair. Yeah, it's multi-directional and works. It's unfair. Yeah, it's multi-directional and damn. Yes, absolutely. Well, we'll keep you away from the surface. So what's your price, bud? Bye, Bride Spot. Interestingly enough, Australia.

I've been watching the Women's World Cup. Sure. I am a fair weather football fan. And it has been very, very enjoyable. And Australia had made it, they're hosting along with New Zealand. And New Zealand crashed out almost immediately. And Australia made it all the way to semi-finals against England. All right.

And they made it to, I want to say like 60 minutes. All right. You would say that those are the same team. Australia and England? Yeah. No. What? They that those are the same team. Australia and England? Yeah. No. What?

They stole the Queen on their money. Well, the Queen's dead. Sure. Former Queen. Hahaha. Anyways, yeah, they lost, but it was really fun. Yeah, it was really fun and they made it a lot further than anybody expected them to.

Great, exciting game. Everybody had fun. Close a score. One zero. Three to one. Okay. Great exciting game. Everybody had fun. Close the score. One zero. Three to one. One to be a three to one. Yeah, they Sam Kerr, who is their star. She wasn't, she was injured. She couldn't play it at all in the earlier stages. She's finally able to play in the semi-final, right? She's the star. Fucking comes up with the best goal I've seen in a long long time. All right.

Kicked it out from 30 meters or whatever. Oh, flew up the golden. I'm sorry, but it went over her hand. It was amazing. That's like, that's the equivalent of getting dunked on. 100% when there's a picture of you as a goalie diving and missing. And it's such a beautiful picture too. That's like getting posterized.

Oh, there's no, it even worse because she the gold tender Did such an amazing job. She's essentially wound up being photographed in a back flip and her eyes are still on the ball as it hits the back of the neck Just like this their tragic. Yeah, say she didn't try she tried everything she had. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's fun. Yep Yeah, I wish I cared more about soccer football. Yeah. That association rules football. That's how we do it. Yeah. Yep. Um, but yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I But it's not like I like other sports instead. I know. No. I just, I have a passing. Why do you want to like, I don't know,

people bond over it, but it's something with like a ton of sports. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the whole thing. Yeah, that's the whole thing. Yeah, I could, I could, I could, I've enjoyed going to a bar with you and watching a sporting event. Right, right.

But like, I wish I enjoyed the sporting event itself more. Right. So it wouldn't feel like I have to force myself into situations where we can, like, just not just you and I, but me or anybody, can bond over as well. Yeah. No, I understand.

Yeah. I mean, it's bonding and bedding. That's what sports are. It's for hanging out and for making money or losing a lot of it. Yeah. I think a lot of my friends were pretty hardcore gamblers. And it maybe seemed like something I couldn't get in on. Too many like weird prop bets and like,

overunders and. Oh, I can't do that. Yeah, so that kind of intimidated me away from the betting. Once you get into gambling nerds, then I'm fucked, I'm out. I can't do any of that. I did invent a stat that is entirely meaningless, but I gambled on it once.

And that was called plumbles. Plumbles. And that's punts divided by fumbles in a football game. All right, I like that. Okay. I don't know what it tells you. But you set the over under, I'd like point three. Or something.

Yeah, wait, I think that would actually, I don't know what that would mean. That would mean that there are a certain number of punts per number of fumbles. Yes, that is the stat. That is it. So if you have more punts per fumble, either you are better at not fumbling the ball. Yeah, and punting the ball.

But you're still losing. But you're still losing. Yes. You're better at making it to fourth down. Right. Yes. Yeah. Correct. Right. That's a bad stat. I imagine it does tell you something, but my friends weren't keen on betting on it. I mean, I think it would almost do. I think it almost tells you the opposite of something useful probably you know like it Because you don't want a bad you don't want The goal is to have zero up both right and what if you have two ponds and zero fumbles and it's possible These are the friends also who got deep into horse tracks that'll have Yeah, that'll have a bit there you go. Yeah, that'll have a bit. There you go.

Yeah, that'll happen. Boy, what a bummer, what a bummer of a scene over at the horse track. No, dog track. Excuse me. Oh, yeah, not for me. So, uh, Jordan, today we have an episode that also isn't for you. Not for anybody. Oh, it's bad. Oh, it's always bad. It is always bad. It's the present day. We're talking about August 16th, 2023. Of course. Drop gotten dyed it again. That's correct again. Racketeering on this one though. Different charges mixing it up a little bit. What are we doing? What are we doing? Well, I'll have it a great time. What is this? Yeah, I feel like We're in a situation now with all of these indictments that like, you gotta think something's gonna stick.

Ah! I understand the nihilism of like, wow, nothing ever works. Or nothing ever, there's no consequence of any of this ever-per-anything. Sure. Man, the odds it seems like of getting through this minefield is, seems low.

It is, and apparently, not even the general leak can jump over this challenge, it seems. It's a sticky wicket. It does feel that way. But, God, you never know, those duke boys can get out at just about anything. That is true. Well, we'll see what happens.

And today we'll see what Alex's response to all of this was. But first, let's say hello to some new w we'll see what Alex's response to all this was. But first, let's say hello to some new wank's. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Stuart P. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wank. I'm a policy wank.

Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, the one true Bob. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wank. I'm a policy wank. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Next, Bongo Water Jones. my wife, Erica, interesting spelling, A R I K A. Thanks. This podcast has made me weird. You're weird. Look at the spelling of your name. You're now policy won. I'm a policy won. What? editorialized a little bit. I'm sorry. You're about to get beat up in Australia. That's fine. That's fine. Next, happy city hall wedding, Connor Connor and Katie you're now policy won. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much Thank you and all caps on this one a large gay rodent with an internet connection. You are now policy won. I'm a policy won

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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today's should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.

That's really what I wanna do. I never wanna come back hearing you. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not. So Jordan, before we get into the episode proper, this is not a dreamy creamy summer. This is not chilly, Willie winter. This is not a bright spot. This is not spawn con. This is just, but I got a little drink here that is weird. I want to try it and see how it goes.

This is Coca-Cola Zero Sugar Ultimate Edition. Zero Calorie Cola plus XP flavored. So this has got to be some kind of a game thing. Plus XP flavor. Yeah, there's got to be like a video game thing, right? You are earning experience points via this drink. You're fucking right, I am. All right, here we go.

Experience points. We are seeing a plus four. I've had an experience. Yeah, it's very clear. Huh, the facial experience is one for me. It was interesting. There's a fruit to it. There's a fruit to it.

Yeah, it feels like there's a peach, but it's not just peach. All right, there's something else going on in there. The color red comes to mind and peach. So it's a red peach. Yes. Not tracks. Yeah, not bad.

I mean, in terms of these coaks that have been different weird things, I don't want it more than I want coke. Sure. Sure. Which seems like a, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't beat coke, but it's fine. Yeah.

It's better than that one weird one. Yeah. What was that fucking one that tasted like a tobacco? Oh, I don't even want to remember it. So, Alex starts out the show, not talking about Trump's indictment, but instead talking about the fires and Maui and So we're gonna begin here with the way Alex starts the show, which is Trump giving a little speech and throwing some shade around and then Alex speaking his piece and

Very importantly the aftermath is going very poorly with the governor of the island importantly, the aftermath is going very poorly with the governor of the island, wanting to do nothing but blame it on global warming, and other things that just happened to pop into his head. When asked about it today, as he was getting into a car, perhaps coming home from the beach, where he has been spending a great deal of time. Crooked Joe Biden, the most incompetent president of the history of our country, with a laugh in a smile said he had no comment on the death and the tragedy. To say no comment is oftentimes fine, but to be smiling when you say it,

especially against such a tragedy as this is absolutely horrible and unacceptable. It is a disgraceful thing that Joe Biden refuses to help or comment on the tragedy in Maui, just as he refused to help or comment on the trained derailment in East Palestine, Ohio for a very, very long time. In any event, hopefully everyone will be able to pull together so that a horrible situation does not get even worse. To the families affected, I give you my love and sympathy. Nothing can ever replace your loved ones, but you will always have the memories and will feel their great love surrounding and embracing you.

Together we will continue to carry their legacy forward and I love you all very much. Thank you. Art felt powerful presidential. That's it from our real president. Biden was asked about it and said, no comment. Our hearts go out to people. We're sending aid. In fact, they're blocking aid coming in,

from private citizens and operating in federal aid, the governor, our video, announced they're gonna steal the property and turn it into a smart city with no gates. Okay, you cannot make this stuff up. And it's accepted just as. Yes, you 100% can. I will say that it is maybe a fair criticism that Joe Biden hasn't talked enough about the wildfires in Maui in the past days, but what Alex and Trump are doing is playing games about a tragedy

to score political points. Let me read you from a statement put out by the White House. Quote, Jill and I send our deepest condolences to the families of those who lost loved ones in the wildfires in Maui, and our prayers are with those who have seen their homes, businesses, and communities destroyed. That statement was released on August 9th, almost a week before this episode of Alex's show was being recorded. Yeah, Alex doesn't care about the fires or the people impacted by them and to put it more

sharply, he doesn't care whether Biden talks about them or not. When he cares about his following along with his team, and he sees his team saying Biden is ignoring the fire so Alex dutifully repeats that message and exaggerates it further, making up shit about Biden blocking aid and what have you. Alex is a follower. He's not the tip of the spear, rooting out lies and corruption, he's just a demagogue spouting the bullshit his strongman leader says to, with zero concern for whether it's true or not, so long as it helps his team and hurts the other side.

The governor of Hawaii, Josh Green, did not announce that they're going to seize all the land affected by the fires and make smart cities or some bullshit. What happened is that Green spoke out and gave a warning about scams that people often try to run after tragedies, exploiting desperation and the public response to it. Governor Green explored options with his attorney general about halting any sales of properties that had been damaged because residents had reported being approached by people who didn't live on the island who were posing as real estate agents

and seeking to buy their property naturally for less than it would be worth under other circumstances. This kind of predatory behavior might be considered like an attempt at land grabbing, but what the governor did was speak out against it and seek legal means of protecting the public from it. Green did make a comment about unspecified areas of land that he said the state would buy before allowing private outside developers to comment and poach it. I can see how that could be seen by some people as an instance of state land grabbing,

but I disagree. I don't pretend to be an export on a door or anything, but I lived in Hawaii for a bit as a kid. And I can say that the public attitude toward outside developers is intensely hostile. I can't even really express to you how much it was instilled in me, even as a third grader, how much damage had been done by the big Japanese companies and the howlies like me coming in and buying land, developing it into things like exotic resorts and exclusive golf clubs. These developments didn't serve the public.

In fact, locals are largely excluded from these luxuries either because they can't afford the golf course or because they don't need to stay at a resort. They live there. The developments do, however, attract vacationers, which attract businesses aimed at vacationers and specifically not aimed at locals. You see this distinction very clearly. If you go to Honolulu and walk around Waikiki Beach, that area, you see that glut of fancy restaurants and flashy shops. But then, just walk six blocks towards the interior of the island and the picture changes entirely. The capital investment in the tourist area does not help the people who live in Hawaii.

It solidly works against their quality of life and raises property values to the point where they're priced out of purchasing homes. You know, people are, they're unable to find housing in Hawaii for, like, unless you're incredibly rich. Like it's the market is screwed by this kind of stuff. No, it is, it is after having been there. Mm-hmm. And you remember, we're walking around this lavish beach area. No, it is. And then we walk towards where I lived as a kid.

And on the way, there's just like, huh, the only restaurant here appears to be, like it's just, it's someone's house. I mean, I feel like the only thing that needs to be done with Hawaii is give it back and then declare it protected and let nobody fuck with it like a national park, but we don't own it because it's not our nation. I am not unsympathetic to Hawaii independence ideas, but I think I would defer to people there, and their perspectives more than I.

No, but that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying like, oh, send him off from, you know, I'm saying that the locals are the people who live there. Yeah, but I also, I also don't think that there's a universal, like, consensus among people who are locals who live there of who is a exactly local. No, about like whether or not being part of the United States is preferable, too independent. Sure, sure, sure. You know, that, I think there's mixed opinions on, but I think that there's far more unity in disliking outside investment coming in. Yes, and completely changing the culture, changing the environment

just for the sake of making money. No, it should be preserved as a perfect, yeah. So I never saw any polling on this, but I can say that from my anecdotal experience, 100% of Hawaii's residents do not want more vulture developers coming in and transforming the islands into exploitative vacation spots. You could see a governor saying he would explore the possibility of the state buying land before letting developers buy it as him being a tyrant, or you could see it as him doing what he was elected to do, which has served the interests of the public. And it's not like he was saying, we're gonna buy up the land and make it all ours.

It's talking about like give it, have family housing on it and stuff. Like that's, no, that is what you should be doing. That's what we should all be doing. If the alternative is these awful companies coming in, then yes, the state is preferable to that. Preferable to all of it is that fire not happening.

Well, I mean, we don't get to choose that option. The idea essentially is that the people own it, right? Not an outside developer. And the government is a manifestation of the people. the will of the people. It is the perfect circus there. I mean, it is the functional idea that the government should act as though the entirety of the people had chosen to do a thing. Right. You know, it's unfortunate that we don't even consider that as a possibility. Yeah, I love who I love Maui, even though I've only been there once. There's an old Hawaiian saying Maui no ka oi

Which means Maui is the best It was traditionally like a boast and chant that the islanders of the past would say to show their pride But when I visited I remember feeling it more like yeah, man, Maui is the best from Holly Akala Takahaka Kaloah. It's just the best and obviously our hearts go out to all the people there who are affected by this tragedy. And I have the utmost faith that people there will be able to recover and get back on track. And it's just really, really disgusting

to hear Alex and Trump and the way that they're operating in the aftermath of this. Yeah, it is, it has been very, very lovely. Not hearing that as the like the news putting out what the president says, you know, like not hearing Trump be like, hey, we're saying sad things. I'm real sorry for that.

Biden can go fuck himself. I hate these people. Everybody's mean to me. I don't know something about Hawaii. I hope everybody feels better. I love me. I don't know something about Hawaii. I hope everybody feels better I love you. I could I could have stopped the fire totally if there was a Republican governor Like oh, we used to we used to have to hear that shit all the goddamn time Yeah, how people are trying to make it happen again. It's annoying

Yep, geek geek indeed. Yeah, so Alex, you know, he went to Hawaii recently. Remember one of his many vacations? He did. He was doing that scouting out of Zuckerberg's mansion. Yeah, he was a spy. Yeah, but apparently he did some other things while he was there. Now, I was just in Hawaii for two weeks in Kauai and also in Wahoo. And obviously I'm well known, so I got invited out by the Hawaiians several times

and got a chance to hang out with some of the leaders and I'm sorry. All that little ancestral pieces of property right on the beach where they're being offered 20 million, 100 million, pre-with 234 acres and there's dozens, I said dozens and more than 100 million, free with two, three, four acres. And there's dozens, I said dozens, and more than 100 millionaires that have moved out there, and that's all the locals told me about. But I went on a fishing trip and things like that. It was how horrible they are and how they're stealing all the property.

And how they're waging war on them, and how they burned them out. And so the governor now said, oh, we're not giving the people their property back, which is the cultural center is where the fire happened. That's where the Hawaiian Royal Family lived for thousands of years, thousands of years. It's the ancient culture that arrived there about 2000 plus years ago. Talk about incredible mariners, Seaman, and they're just taking it. So if it's property that is yours,

a fire being there doesn't remove that from being your property. It doesn't just automatically be like, aha, there was a fire. It's now not yours anymore. I second, if he's talking about something like where the palace there used to be, then that's public land already. So, I don't know what he's talking about. And also, I don't believe this dude for a second.

Not a single second, do I believe that he was hanging out with local Hawaiian folks during his vacation. Not that he was like, he was supposed to be there with a scouting out Zuckerberg, not embedding himself in the independence movement. Like, that's something he would be against. Yeah, no, that's absurd. Their ideology, I think, is diametrically opposed to Alex, you know, because he's a major part of the problem that they're up against. He yells about 1776 all the time and he believes in unrestrained capitalism and conquering

the moon and shit. Well, listen shit. Listen to what he even made up. He was like, oh, these people are being offered 10, 20, 100 million to do this. Like he's saying that the government shouldn't step in to block land developers by pointing out that land developers are trying to steal their land. Exactly. Exactly.

He is of the mind that the people who are making these developments, building these golf courses. They're the ones doing all the good. Yes, they're the ones who should not be, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's absurd. He has zero problem also also Alex with colonialism done by white people.

And he would never support a Hawaii secessionist movement. And if he were to ever meet a lot of these Hawaiian people, he would think that they were demonic racists. Yes. Because they have a very, like obviously not every Hawaiian person, but a lot of Hawaiian people don't have very positive feelings towards white people. Yeah, due to the background of the only totally totally.

So I think that the first person who called him a howley, Alex would probably turn the page on all the islands. Okay. Let me throw this out at you. If Texas does secede, like Alex wants, do they then invade Hawaii? So Alex has somewhere to go. Because if you secede, if you're Texas

and you secede from the union, you don't just get to go to the rest of the place. If you have a passport, you do. I don't know. I don't know if we're allowing Texas into, I kind of don't wanna allow Texans into our border. I think we need to travel this whole another conversation. I think okay fine. You know whether or not you allow border crossing from the

Yeah, I don't know baby. I think that it's not the most direct route. It's harder to get there from Texas I think that Alex likes Barton Springs and some of those Texas coasts. Yeah, there's some nice stuff. But there's enough beach there. Yeah, there's pretty nice stuff. So the area that was affected by the fire that Alex is talking about is called Lahaina. One of the great features of the area is a big banyan tree is meant to represent where King Kamehameha's first palace was after he united the islands into the

kingdom of Hawaii. The capital wasn't there for very long though and moved to Honolulu where it's arguably there's more history that relates to a united Hawaii there pre-United States taking over. Things like Liliokalani's rule and what have you. When Alex says that the Hawaiian royal family lived in Lahaina for thousands of years, that's just horseshit. The islands weren't even united as one kingdom until 1795. And the last monarch, Liliokolani, was deposed in 1896, or 1893, excuse me, less than a hundred years later.

That's the history of the United Kingdom of Hawaii. There was only a Hawaiian royal family for that long. After that, it's mostly been a territory or a state and prior to that, you had a bunch of people who were in charge of an island or parts of an island. It was not united. Yeah. So could may have may have conquered. Yeah, that one blew me for a sec. What was that? The Hawaiians have been there for thousands of years. And that's it when I was like, I mean, I don't know why, where we, well, you could, people lived there. Yeah, people lived there.

So the Hawaiian royal family there for thousands of years is. That's absurd. Yes, that's nonsensical. Yeah. And the origins of the Hawaiian people is more complicated than just people from Tahiti came to the islands. Yeah. The Tahiti immigration was the second wave of people who arrived, which was hundreds of years after Polynesians from the Marquesis islands got there.

It is fair, however, to say that the early inhabitants of Maui were predominantly the folks from Tahiti. So, Vallecs were just specifically talking about Maui, then yeah, you could make an argument that Lahaina was a seat of power within Maui and that the people there were mostly from Tahiti. So, some of this stuff would work for Maui, but not for Hawaii. Well, that's interesting, I'm learning.

I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. What fun. It's not what fun to force this from Alex's bullshit. Yeah. Wasn't that way better than just being like, yeah, I'll make up some history that makes sense. Kind of. Yeah, I mean, it takes a little, it takes a little more effort, which is why Alex doesn't do it. Yeah, that's all that. It just says bullshit like this. Emergency services stood down.

Dozens of fire started instantaneously. Just like we've seen in California and all over Canada. We have satellite footage of California, Canada, and other areas where you just see instantly over miles, sometimes 200 miles long, just instantly fire start everywhere. So yeah, it's a false flag. Yeah. Uh, eh, yep. False flag. False flag. Yep.

Still? So obviously that must mean that the governor wanted to seize this land so they set the fires in order to be able to seize this land, right? I mean, like that's the conspiracy. Well, I mean. This makes any sense. Then, but then it doesn't make sense for Alex to be mad at Biden

for not releasing a statement or whatever because it's clearly Biden's plan to do this. Well, it's tacky to not release a statement even though he did days earlier. Uh, well, I mean, but he also apparently set these fires up top. Well, look, the globalists have a lot of different operations going. I feel like they need to have more and better internal communication, because there's a lot of stuff going on that seems like it could be in conflict with us. It's also really stupid, because if the plan is just to kill all of us and sacrifice us to Saturn,

then you can have that land after that. Sure, yeah. You don't need to do this. You can take our stuff after you kill us. This plot is entirely unnecessary. It lies. It's just like for fun, I guess. Yeah, I mean, the argument I think Alex would make is like they like doing stuff like

this. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Stupid. Yeah. So Alex talks a little bit about the Hawaiian island scare and I think it pay attention. He's a little bit off on some of this.

Okay. It was a dry hurricane. You've seen the high winds, 50, 60, 70 miles an hour, that blew in, and then all over the rest of the line, because it hit the big island, Cona right next to it, and then it hit Maui. Cona's the most easterly. Most westerly is Cuy, but it's really in the middle of that zone turning over so you can see it as the perspective of it's the most Westerly but it comes to your perspective but it's the island what second closest to the

mainland west coast those Kona and then it goes Maui and then it goes Wahu and then it goes out to Lam Nai and Kauaia and then of course there's a forbidden island that literal seafaring Amish bought from the King hundreds of years ago and then there's an Amish Hawaiian community with no electricity out on the other island that you want to go to on day hunting trips by a helicopter. Is that true? I'm gonna chance to go after I'll do it be to just to Be able to talk to those folks. I mean, I'm just stunned right now because

This is just insane. Yeah, it is Alex is a little messy on that order of islands. Yeah, by that I mean he's totally off. Yeah, he's also is a little messy on that order of islands. Yeah, by that I mean he's totally off Yeah, he's also including Kona in his list which isn't an island But is a place on the big island right in Hawaii and Kona is a word that means Lee word or the dry side of the island And most of the islands have a town or a city with the word Kona in it But Kailua Kona is on the big island. It's the one that's the most well-known, so people just call that Kona. Yeah, it's the... Alex calling the island Kona is weird. Yeah, that's very strange. So the big island is the most eastward, and then comes Maui.

To the south of Maui is Kahului, which is uninhabited. No one lives there because there are no sources of fresh water and because there's a lingering fear of unexploded bombs that were dropped there during testing. Sure that we did. Sure, I mean, you think back to the 50s and you say, yeah, we shouldn't have dropped so many nuclear bombs all over the place. But then you go, where else were we going to get going the dark tooth paste? Yeah, so no one can live there. Yeah Smart, but I mean maybe you wouldn't want to live there anyway because you know lack of sources of fresh water And what have you but whatever the water is somehow more important than the bomb strangely enough Mm-hmm, and then there's a moldo chai

It's an island that has some tourism and agriculture going on But is probably best known for being home to a giant leper colony where people with leprosy were sent Essentially to die and that gave the island a little bit of a stigma that still lives in people's minds. But it's pretty nice island. I'd like to go there at some point. I mean, we don't still send lepers there. We can, yeah, but there is still like a, I don't know, I remember when I lived there, there was a feeling of like the spirit of that colony

is still existing there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I also remember there being like, you know, the rumors around the school where you're like, that's an island you can't go to. Right, let you go there. The ghost island. Yeah, yeah, gotcha.

But that is not correct, silly. South of Molokai is Lanai. This is probably, it could be the island that Alex is thinking about with the Amish, I'm not entirely sure, but it was actually Mormons, and they weren't given this land, they were just granted a lease. They lease over a parcel of land.

The guy in charge of that group, Walter Gibson would expand his holdings until he owned most of the island. They were involved in agriculture and through a chain of sales, this is a real yadda yadda thing, but eventually, dole foods ended up owning the island. Because they owned basically the entire island, it was possible for Larry Elson, the CEO of Oracle, to buy the island, which is an absurd concept, and exactly the outcome that the present day resistance to predatory development seeks to avoid. So that Lanai is basically owned by the CEO of Oracle 98% of the island

2% is owned by the Hawaiian government. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right And that probably wouldn't be possible if it hadn't been for that early consolidation of ownership of the island that went on down through companies to dole. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I boy, you know, when you when you hear that some guy owns an island, you remember that all of this is pretend and boy, boy, boy, defenestration, my man. So then there's a Wahoo, uh, and I'm going the order from East to West, East to West, and then there's Kauai. The forbidden island that Alex is talking about is, uh, Nehaau, uh, and it's kind of, it might be the Amish people he's talking about. So a woman named Elizabeth Sinclair bought it from Kameha,

Mayha the fifth in 1864 and no one can go to that island except government officials There's some military people who are allowed because there's an installment on the island to though not active It's not like there's people stationed there right, but some military people can come her descendants are allowed to go and then people they invite That's it. They have a lot of involvement in conservation, but they do allow some people to come for safaris. So some hunting, but it's very limited. I don't think they'd like Alex much. Yeah.

Yeah, man, I, boy, I really don't think we should let apes own land. I don't think that's good. I think we should recognize that we're all still apes and we shouldn't own land. And we should go back to the trees. It's a lot of conflict with the feelings around it. Yeah. I don't know.

Especially with something. I don't know why it is different, but I feel like with Hawaii, it's so limited, the amount of land, and the cultural history is so rich. And the ownership of it is a history of exploitation at theft. I mean, yeah, it's like, like it is it is colonialism in a nutshell Mm-hmm, and it has always been so it's almost like Hawaii is a is a Fucking thermometer for how much colonialism is going on at any given point in time? Mm-hmm So we jump off the topic of the Maui fires, okay, and Alex gets into the indictment a little bit right because he's read it

Yeah, he's totally right all of it. He has a reaction. Every bit. Prime Minister John John, just 30 minutes to talk about the indictment. I've read the indictment this morning. And all I can say is, whoa, this is the globalist cementing there to over the United States. That's why George Soros has put in over 900 district attorneys and county attorneys thousands of judges and jurisdictions were there elected like Texas. He has 22 of the state attorney generals and the levels have control of the federal justice department. This is total next level election stealing by in dining four times the leaning candidate who would win in a landslide today in the twenty twenty four

elections were held yeah man you can't punish somebody for crimes that they committed if they're gonna run yeah I mean you well you won't know if they've committed those crimes unless they become or don't become president. Sure. Why do you think there was a murder? Well, I mean, if he's going to become president, you gotta let him murder a guy or wait until I tell him... Or else it's election meddling. It is!

I suppose you could consider you being a murderer election meddling. It's certainly... Like, Trump is a... Trump is meddling with his election via crime committee right yeah he definitely has metal than his own business yes you make choices and these are the outcomes of those choices well you fucking indicted also i heard roger stone was gonna be on to respond to this and my only reaction was whoa. I was just blown away, Roger, someone who's probably scared. He's a get.

I think he's got to probably be a little bit worried. He was pretty involved in pushing the electric stuff. He did the crimes. If I were him, I would be getting my affairs in order. I don't understand. I like, I get that you don't think you're committing a crime. Right. Right. I recognize that.

But once you realize that everybody else does and you're not going to win that fight, you got to run, right? You gotta go. There's no reason for Roger Stone to stay around and get in prison again. Well, he's technically not a citizen of the United States. He has his own sovereign territory called the Stone Zone. That is true. Yeah.

He does bring the Stone Zone with him like a Dracula in the dirt of his home country. Yeah, I mean, if I had to guess, I would think that he's really, really hoping that Trump wins and somehow like all of this goes away or something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know that you can't pardon state offenses.

Yeah. But like, I mean, there's a lot of stuff the Trump did that you can't do. Yeah, you know, actually I'm at the point now where everything's so terrible. I just want us to, here's what I want. I want things to end the right way, all right? And that is with Trump getting elected,

then being convicted of all of his crimes and sentenced to the rest of his life in prison. All right, and then him pardoning himself and then we all go fucking nuts. And then, because what happens next? That's not okay. We all know that instinctively. You can't pardon yourself of a crime you committed.

We all know that. The human race fundamentally knows that. And yet, and yet. And yet, there will be a not insignificant portion of the population who believes that he was just to pardon himself whether or not he does it. Yep. Nixon said if the president does it, it's not a crime.

Exactly. And if he's the rightful president right now, not holding it. Totally. No, it was a crime. But here's the other thing. If he is the rightful president right now, he should not able to be elected for a third term well arguably because of the fake impeachment yeah he didn't even have a first term he didn't even have half a term so he wins in 2024 that's actually his first term technically i mean i let's just be

why can't we all just be like listen if trump wins. He's president for life We all know that's how this is gonna go. So that's the vote. Okay. One or the other. I mean stop it. Let's not pretending Gross. Yeah, so look Trump sure He tried to have a fraudulent slate of electors sure tried to bully people to accept these slates Sure free speech, but the Democrats do that all the time. They're dining in for organized crime racketeering for trying to create alternate delegates, something Democrats have done over and over again. Barack Obama did it the second time he ran for president.

In Hawaii, JFK did it. Was getting ready to do it. This is just simply amazing. Democrats did decent to do this when our gore lost. Probably had a stolen. I don't want to gore's. Looks like they did steal it. Oh man, if Alex is worried about our gore, had the 2000 election stolen.

He should take that matter up with Roger Stone. Oh, what do you know? Roger's on later in the show. So Alex could totally ask him what he was up to during that election and during the ensuing chaos. I bet he had some interesting answers. Probably best not to do that,

lest you reveal that stopping the steal was always double talk. Oh, don't make that too clear to your audience. Roger, you've successfully stolen one election. What's it like to lose? Oh, so those examples Alex uses are not analogous or real. You've successfully stolen one election. What's it like to lose? So those examples Alex uses are not analogous or real That just doesn't make sense. Why would Obama need to get an alternate slate of electors for Hawaii in 2012 when he won the state with over

70% of the vote Alex says that JFK was quote getting ready to do it which means nothing JFK was killed in November 1963 a full year before the next election. So that would have to be some massive advance planning on his part. I mean, he's better than the globalists. He puts, he puts the time in for the plan. What is he talking about? Nothing. He's talking about absolutely nothing. Of course. And it's fun. It's fun for me now, like, truly to be beyond this, this thing, you know, like, okay, here's your, here's what you're doing. You're saying Trump did all this stuff.

Well, the Democrats do it too. Fine. Let's get them all, you know, fine. Cool. Fine. I'm with you. Yeah. Trump, Obama, all of them.

Line them up. Were that the case that they are all doing the same thing? I'm on it. By all means. Go for it. Yeah. Please. Yeah. I'm sick of all of them.

And yeah, I mean, if people are committing, you know, crimes of fraudulent electioneering and stuff, yeah, they're subverting democracy. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I don't care who's party there and get them out. No, get them away from here. Yeah.

Yeah. It's not complicated. No. Everyone knows that you cannot pardon yourself of a crime. And yet we are somehow still questioning it. We'll see. So Alex talks about the DA that is pressing these charges on Trump. And this is definitely, it's going to sarcastically say it's not racist, but it is.

So the Soros DA that dates a gang member in cases she's over, yes, she's mobbed up. Violent gang leader. Thug, she's a thug. Yeah, so that's very clearly an attack that Alex is making and language that he's using because DA Fanny Willis is a black woman. It's very racist. I had no idea. And again, it's an example of Alex being a loser follower.

On August 8th, Trump was giving a speech and he said, quote, they say there's a young woman, a young racist in Atlanta. She's a racist. And they say, I guess they say that she was after a certain gang and she ended up having an affair with the head of the gang or a gang member. And this is the person that wants to indict me, she's got a lot of problems. There's no evidence that Willis is a racist, nor that she had an affair with a gang leader. This is just racist-coated bullshit that Trump was throwing out to smear the people who

are attempting to hold him accountable because he knows that his audience loves racist bullshit. And now Alex is the sort of media figure who just take that obvious self-serving trash that Trump throws out and regurgitate it for his own audience because he's, this is pathetic. If Alex even thinks that he's a truth teller, this is pathetic. Yeah, it's, yeah.

You know, I'm kind of disappointed that the, I think that would be a very romantic story. You know, like, I'm a gang leader. A gang leader, finding out they've got a lot more disappointed that uh... the i think that would be a very romantic story you know leader finding out they've got a lot more in common than they than they expected you know they felt that spark you know as long as you were to use yourself from the case totally step away then it is a gorgeous story if they're if if they're allowed to make uh... romantic comedy where the son of

the president and the son of the president and the son of the king fall in love, then we get a DA and a gang leader. Sure. I think that counts. One day. I think that counts. It can be our next West Side story adaptation. Yeah. So Roger comes in. Uh-huh. He has some stuff to say. And man, in the 45 years I had plus I've been in American politics. I've never seen anything quite like this. Does anyone have you? Did it think that if Donald Trump was not leading by double digits for the Republican presidential nomination. He wasn't leading the incumbent Joe Biden who is mired up to his hips in epic scandal, in every swim state and in national trial, he's that they would bravely bring any of these essentially fabricated charges against him.

Like, obviously, I don't agree with Roger's assessment of stuff, but I could imagine a world where Trump just shut the fuck up and like tried to not keep riling his followers up and disrupting things and you know that maybe people wouldn't be so aggressively but here's the problem that counterfactual reality involves him not doing the things he did to try and get the 2020 election overturned yeah so you can't really have it both ways. No, I mean, not just that. I think if he hadn't done the things he did,

he wouldn't be getting indicted, but he's getting indicted for the things that he did. Right. So that's the issue. Yeah. I mean, the problem with, that's the problem with him. Rob just could have fucking turned me into

Groucho Marx. It is like, oh, well, this is the man who is this man. He would not have won the presidency if he was not also committing crimes that they say, you know, like, this is the man who is this man. He would not have won the presidency if he was not also committing crimes at the same, you know, like, this is the man who commits crimes. We've all watched him do it for our lives, our lives, all of our lives. Yeah, but there's a piece of what Roger's saying

that feels like, maybe, but then you peel back the other layer and it's like, well, yeah, if he just shut up, then the indictment would have happened, wouldn't have happened because you wouldn't have done this racketeering. Yeah. Here's, here's my, here's my piece of evidence. Here's my piece of evidence. All right. We know plenty of people in other countries

and in the United States who have been railroaded with bullshit trials. And we know that those charges in those cases do not look like a fucking reocco case with six other assholes and a shit ton of eyewitness accounts of people who were there going, I can't believe he did that. There's better ways to do the crime.

I mean, it makes you think. It's a little bit. So Roger, I just thought this was funny. This is his good defense of Trump. the end of the mix makes you think it's a little bit so roger uh... this i just thought this was funny this is his good defense of trump i've read the transcript by the way ponderous there were six other lawyers on the phone at the time participating it is absolutely clear that the president does not instruct the secretary of state

to go out and find 11,870 ballots. What he says is, you have illegally counted 11,770 votes that are illegal. Certain number of them being convicted. And repellent. A certain number of them being people who are deceased. Yeah, but- A certain number of them being people who illegally registered to vote from post office boxes and so on.

So that is a complete bastardization of what he says. Now look, I didn't say that I was gonna bash your kneecaps in if you didn't give me a thousand dollars. I just said that there's a lot of kneecaps attacking people around here and I can't protect you unless you pay me that one. That's a dollars. I love that. That is so sad. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I mean, it's nice to, because I imagine like being in the room when he's saying that and bursting out laughing, because that's the only thing you can do. That's hilarious. Yeah. What are you going to stop it? Alex has to have his cough button off. Totally. Hearing Roger be like like I don't understand He didn't say go find me 11,870 in votes. Hmm. He did say that literally, but what he meant to say actually What he did say that you should think somebody's text that was there

Exactly, which is what's more important than the words he says. And you can interpret the words that people say any different way you want to. Totally. Especially when they mean them a win. See, a Roger, that's pathetic. Yep. I don't think he thinks he can get pardoned twice.

No. So Roger leaves, not an eventual interview. No. And Alex is complaining about public schools and what have you And then this leads to Something I think that is a little bit revelatory And you look at the Heritage Foundation the rest of the decent good work They just pair it all day long about oh well. Let's just get rid of public schools. Yeah, they're horrible

They're cesspools. They're their leftists, their brainwashing, their terrible in most areas. But in some rural areas, they're pretty good. And they are autonomous, and they are independent school districts, but not in the big cities. But then you look at the private schools now, most of them are getting accredited and getting grants and are just as bad as the public schools.

And then there's not like a real- You get a job job if you're homeschooled or whatever, because you don't have an accredited system. So it's like getting rid of apartheid and then bringing something in ten times worse. Communism. We're not for a part of time, we're not defending it. Wait, it's like saying what you rather have got to hold on. Wait, brain cancer. You can get rid of gonorrhea. It doesn't kill you. Brain cancer does. A part-time is gonorrhea.

I was expecting that. Communism in South Africa is brain terminal brain cancer. And I'll take gonorrhea all day. I'm not saying go back to gonorrhea. I'm saying, don't just think, oh, they're reforming. What is happening now? You've reformed it. That just means you're changing. Let's aren't your core reformed, heresima and naka sake in 1945. Wow. Slatin' it like a pancake. That reform thing is, Alex is pretty big on that. that. Whenever we hear reform, we think forms.

Exactly. That's formed again. Breaking down words. Breaking them down, there's two of them. That metaphor doesn't really work that Alex made. And a big part of the reason is that Alex is proposing a false choice. He's laying it out that in the case of South Africa and implicitly Zimbabwe, the choices were apartheid or communism and no other outcome was possible. This is a fraud that is constructed for a purpose, which is to mask the actual position Alex and his Ilkev, which is that they support apartheid. This is the way that Alex wants to give lip service to being

opposed to obviously bad and racist things, while at the same time supporting every position that works to strengthen and reinforce those bad and racist things. Essentially, the thrust of this argument comes down to this. You better keep apartheid in place, because if you don't, you'll have the brain cancer of communism. It's meant to be understood as a threat to anyone seeking to better society that they'd better keep the existing hierarchies and dynamics in place.

But it's bullshit and it's scare tactics. Is South Africa a communist country? I mean, the word communism means nothing anymore. Right, nothing. It means nothing. Well, it does, but for them it means. Yeah, for them it means nothing. I mean, yeah, generations. Yeah, for them it means. So it's my nothings, for, I mean, yeah, generations.

Yeah, that's true. It's been an unfortunate word for a long time. Yeah. Because I mean, the concept is so much easier to hate on. It's quite simple, really, is like, oh, I don't think people are equals the end. And you're like, well, OK, I don't understand how to explain economics to you if that's your opening

salvo, but okay. Well, and Alex is also kind of missing an important piece of this that is like apartheid is gonorrhea to me because I'm on the I'm on the power side of it. Yeah. It's not so much a trivial thing that you can just get rid of if you are a person who is living under that apartheid system. It is a little bit like, let me see if I can make the gonorrhea thing work. I can't, because it doesn't make any sense. No.

A apartheid is not gonorrhea. No, and I think that one of the things that Alex is incapable of is imagining that he were in a different social strata than he is. Yeah. And I think that that kind of inability is, it, I don't know, I mean, it limits his thinking quite a bit.

Well, you cannot, here's what you can't do with Alex. If you tell Alex to imagine himself in another country, Alex takes him and his trappings and his life and his money and his wealth and he lifts it up and he puts it in that country and he goes, I will be Alex to those people. Right. There's no part of him that's like, okay, well, if I'm born in this economic strata

in this country, I am doing this stuff. I am not capable of having a shit ton of money. Yeah, I'm born under a partied rule You know those types of things it's impossible for him to abstractly imagine There's no circumstances can't do it. So Alex decides to do some impressions like a Schwab I think he gets lost. Yeah and cloud swab the W. are the puppets of the Rodrona Felon dynasty recruiting the other leaders as they quote, penetrates the cabinets and takes control on the governments. And what else do we do? We go in Martian? We set up basic dictatorships. My prokage, Just in front of the tell the national TV what you admire wait, oh you admire basic

dictatorship and ZG pin what what is called slabs so many times Well China is the best model that you were sure and we would like to have it here And you're going to have it. The wrongs giving you orders, false conscription and false lemakams as well as liberal liberal liberal liberal deep fun la la la human smuggling pit know guess for Indonesia large-chopping up

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Right. And when you kind of slip in who the character is supposed to be. And when you kind of slip in and out of different, you're not consistent with the voice. That just shows your range. It's really a mastery as opposed to competence. A lot of people don't respect that accent work is more about when you decide that you forgot to use the accent of this scene.

Yes. Yes. That's the problem. And correcting on the fly. You have to wear your like, wait, are you a different person now? You must be. Did you, also, that was Marvin the Martian? Yes.

Definitely. But when he wasn't being Marvin the Martian, I think he was being clashwob. Right. And then also there was another clashwob. There was another clashwob voice. Yes, too. He was going in and out of. Okay class war. There was another class. Yes, too. That he was going in and out of all right. Very

that was unfortunate. I see that was disgusting. So now the rest of the episode ends up well, okay, full disclosure, full disclosure. I turned it off in the third hour because he was interviewing Judy McEvitt's a pandemic lady.

Uh-huh. And I don't care. No. How are we going to top they're trying to make you allergic to meat for a COVID vaccine. Shit. Like there's nothing you can do. That's like the project camel out there trying to turn us into vampires. It is. There's nowhere else to go. You can't tighten the bit. Nope. Um, so the rest of this ends up being Alex discussing globalist recruitment. Okay. Um, and so he talks a little bit here about meetings that he's had with them. And I'm explaining this to you because it's important. I'm not bragging about it.

There was one time in meetings I've had with these people. And I've had at least 15 meetings with globalist over the years. Fox News, tried to hire me, Roger Ailes, tried to hire me. That was the lower level stuff. Clear channel, tried to hire me 18 years ago. Stuff like that, but those were private meetings off record, so I've never given the details of those. Because as a journalist, if somebody says there's a private meeting, unless, how dare you.

They discuss crimes, it's a private meeting what dinner with builder bird group members are in space it dinner with billionaires that are household names okay and those are private meetings and that's that I understand with like maybe if Fox uh it was like offering him a job it would be kind of tacky to talk about the details of that yeah but if that's what he's considering meetings with the globalists, that's pretty sad. Yeah. Also, if he is meeting with these billionaires and these high level globalist people, by definition, what they're talking about is a crime because they're trying to kill 80 to

99% of the population. Yes. So that's a crime. Yes. So I think he's free to talk about what they said. And you don't need to keep that confidentiality. No, unless they're planning on committing a specific crime, not the eradication of all life on this planet. And then the eventual transhumanism revolution, right. And then going into multiple dimensions, you literally

can't say that. So there's one instance, like he said, there's one time. One time. He can break that confidentiality. And here's what it is. I don't think this person could make a crime at all. Said it was Donald Trump Jr. who is my sandwich assert.

No, no. But I don't think that what he's talking about here is a crime. And I think that the other things that he implies that he's talked about with globalists definitely are crimes 1516 years ago John harm and the oldest employee here

He's to be my producer now as a affiliate relation said I Said I told the producer I said I want Rothkoff who was the head of the Kissinger Group Kissgers right in man you all heard the story of for New Westerns all telling again Fucking thousand times I said he's written a new book that I just read about how there's only a few thousand globalists and how they run the planet How they're a superclass and how they know best which is basically coming out of the closet of men For the new world war as you see them now doing times 10

And so we get him on for an hour interview and During the first break He says listen, I may leave if I'm talking to him during the break I can punch up gas and Harmon is sitting in the control room at a different office in but just like this a smaller studio He's listening to it. I've a witness to this and he says listen Alex You are gonna be part of the super class. I came on here to be friendly. I came listening to it. So I've a witness to this. And he's just listen Alex. You are going to be part of the super class. I came on here to be friendly. I came on here to be nice. We know who you are. We do. You basically are the Patriot leader. We have

big things you store. You're a guy. And I've already been offered big jobs. They've already other, you know, groups. We know you've been offered big jobs. They've already come and tried to hire me at that point. Because they can tell I was talented. Smart broadcast you're an understood things your talents It's my brother. I think it's always the same speech for these guys. You're talented You understand things. I'm always the same speed the table with us You can be a star and actually Listen to me. You'll go nowhere

On your little crusade Why don't you come to New York? Oh, we're going back to break, going back live. So let's have a friendly interview. I'm like, well, we'll come right back. So we do a second segment. Somebody find the Rothkoff interview. It hits 2005, 2006, whenever superclass came out, is a year that we had a month to just come out, it was a bestseller. I do another 10 minutes segment. We go to break and he goes, no, yeah, there he is. He goes, he goes, I'm leaving.

And I said, why? And I said, you said, well, you're just not listening. You just don't get it. And you're silly. And you're going nowhere with this. If you come back at her friendly, I'll do the rest of the hour, but you're not listening to me, and you don't understand this is something we've got to do, and it's for everybody's best interest. And I got the same speech one time, and I was flying to be on the view. I think a year later. And I'm in first class American Airlines, and there's the head of the third largest

man in the U.S. sitting next to me. The position is data or child general in San Antonio. And I got, we talked to him for three hours. We didn't talk for the first 30 minutes. I got the same speech. Look, corporations don't want to run things. The public's too stupid. You get on board, Alex.

I just will laugh at him. And I'm at my hair sticking on this early in the morning and I'm sitting there and he gets up in his perfect suit, puts on his perfect black French coat, just laughs at me at the end of it. Ha, ha, ha. I can tell you now and I've had meetings with these people, other ones, very high level. They're not laughing anymore. And they're like, yeah, there's a good chance it's going to get out control of the planet. It's going gonna be destroyed. Yeah So what do you think about this? What do you think about that? You know what I think about that? I think destroying the planet's a crime. I think you can burn these people. You can probably tell them that

That they've committed a crime. I've watched this Rothkoff interview and it doesn't hold up to Alex's telling of it Oh, and by the way, none of that was a crime that Ruth copied it. Any of those things that they were discussing off air that Alex is describing. So it only makes sense that Alex is being specific about this person because there is an interview that they did. And so people can go like, oh my god, this interview does exist.

So when he said, happened off air, must have happened off air. That's like this sort of surrogate proof. That's a fraud, it's fraud. It's bullshit. I've got proof that's like what you were thinking, so you can assume that I have proof that is what you were thinking. Yeah, and like, okay, I think that there is a kernel of truth here. I bet Rothkoff said like, hey, you're not listening to me.

You're not letting me talk. I don't want to have this interview, I'm leaving. I bet thatkoff said like, hey, you're not listening to me, you're not letting me talk. I don't want to have this interview, I'm leaving. I bet that did happen. Yeah, that's what I would have done. Yeah, I bet he was like a less patient belayers. I believe 100% that he has gotten many speeches every time he has tried to go on any kind of television program. And they're all essentially the same. Be more professional, you useless piece of shit.

Yeah, shut up. Shut up. You're annoying the shit out of me in first place. I swear to you, we are having you on television to talk and all I want you to do is shut the fuck up. Yeah, and you're like, honestly, he probably, in all reality, tricked Rothkoff to come on the show. Probably in part for the optics that he could exploit like this.

And try and make him run out. Yeah. Much like he tried to do with David Rothschild, much like he's done with tons of other guests. Yep. Try to get them to leave so you can say they can't handle it. Well, I was just trying to have a conversation. Yeah.

And so that's why he's comfortable using that specific example So you can say that you can't handle it. Just trying to have a conversation. Yeah. And so that's why he's comfortable using that specific example and then not naming any of these other globalists that he's discussed things with. And then hiding behind that, I like that journalist patient confidentiality. I can only mention it, but they could be crying. It's just truth. Yeah. Fucking garbage. It's ridiculous.

So I love one thing, and that is Alex doing movie reviews. Yes. And I love a second thing, and that is the conversations about his dad. Yes. Alex goes on after talking about the attempts to recruit him into the globalist. Sure. He talks about his dad's. Are we going to get another?

We might get two more versions are you shitting me? Jesus Christ. This is this nonsense. All right now my father 14 years old Genius top of his class top of everything his mother was a School administrator and my grandmother really into education Patty Patty Jones Jones my grandmother really into education. Patty. Patty. Jones.

Jones. And she and put them in all these science fairs and contests and kept winning them. And at 14, Union Carbide says out of Houston, David Jones has just won this one contest. We've got another contest for him. Sorry, were they? And if he can pass this, he's going to give it a very special offer.

And he's got five days to complete the task. A truck is arriving in three days. They're branch. They're farm. Working farm in East Texas. This truck will self-destruct. I was gonna say yes, this has to go. And lowers a big crate in the front yard with no plans for no designs.

My dad tears it apart and in two days builds a high-powered Ruby laser that was some type of cyclotronic Cyclotronic particle beam. Mm-hmm cyclotronic particle beam. Yep March late 70s. No, flying Metal so glad it was not all three pairs of sunglasses. He was blind for a month burned his eyes. They thought he never see it again. They came back and they said, Mr. Jones, you're being recruited by NASA. You're going to be put in plan two in six months when you're 15 years old and you're gonna be part of NASA. It's not NASA. Damn. He can send to UT, he gets evaluated by all these guys and they go, okay, David, we got your first job. Kill the president.

To MD Anderson Cancer Research. Oh Research in Houston a little different And it's 15 years old my father for a year Was part of secret medical experience. This is not true. There's no part of this is true Didn't they bring him back to UT and he never told me this until he saw in game before it was finished. And he went ahead and I knew a little about it. I heard about it from his mom. He built the laser and sent to you to him all this. And then whatever he did after that for a while, he won't talk about, but by his late 20s after I was a couple years old, he got out of it and bad, it's bad. It's bad, it's bad. It's bad.

Review? Bad. Shit is bad. From 15 to his late 20s, he was involved in secret cancer studies by the globalists. What the fuck are you talking about? Okay, first off, this is so contradictory of like other stories. I know. First off, we started with the plot of real genius,

which is a great move. Or last starfighter. There's a little bit of both. Yeah. A little bit of combined both of those. Then we go all the way into, I don't understand the cancer research part, right? Yeah.

I don't understand how it is that UT for whatever reason is going around monitoring science affairs. Right. And then... Tricking kids into thinking they're going to NASA by giving them laser parts. Yes. That one's weird.

Uh-huh. Constructing a laser in the 60s, which is when this would have to have been going on. Yeah, I don't remember when his dad was born, but he was probably... Oh, Alex was born in 74. So he was born in the early 50s. Yeah, Alex was born in 74. So he was born in early 50s. Yeah, probably.

Yeah. So he'd been 15 in the mid 60s. I don't know if we could build a laser yet that could cause a metal burn. Well, let me say this. We couldn't, David Jones could. And that's why the globalist wanted. So he was so good at these state fairs

making baking soda volcanoes around the fuck he was doing. Right, right. But this is, again, I don't understand. Okay, so fine. Science fair. Yeah, cool. I actually believe that. Build a laser.

Maybe. No, but fine. What are you talking about? Somebody drops a crate magically with no instructions and it's a laser? No, let me be clear, that didn't happen. But Alex's grandma telling a story of her son building a laser, I could believe that.

I could believe something like that. Yeah, but she's probably misunderstanding some piece of it somewhere. But yeah, the version of it where like this for 18 wheeler shows, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, that's ridiculous. Okay. But I do think he probably was winning like science fairs.

Sure. I think he probably did get invited to the university to like talk to some professors. Maybe he did. Maybe he was even invited to like audit a course or something as like an advanced placement kind of thing. Could be. I think that's possible.

All, all very possible. What's not possible is that somebody thinking, all right, this person has constructed a laser. We need them, obviously, for these medical trials on cancer. Unless they're using lasers to kill cancer, but that wouldn't even make any sense in the 60s. I think that might be part of the implication that Alex is making. Right.

I'm not sure. Okay, so here's a couple of things. One, why don't you get an adult? They clearly would know more about the cancer research. So much better to get an adult. Sec, I guess, maybe, here's my problem. You don't even have a worker's permit at this point. Bro, that is a good point.

How are they gonna hire you? You know what? That's why the trials aren't secret because they're doing any weird medical shit. They're secret because they don't have a work permit for David Jones Right. It's all off the books, but it's all off the book purely for financial reasons just for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tax purposes So he did this for over a decade. Yes, or other stuff that's bad could be it's it's bad. It's bad Hey, let me tell you something. I got out of it. It's bad. Sun, I wasn't gonna tell you about this, but then I saw your dumb shit movie.

That's another great part. It was after he saw a movie where I made up a bunch of bullshit and used Microsoft and Cardin to justify lies. Yeah. And then he was like, I bet he'll believe this shit. I used fake quotes to make most of my points. Sun. Is that, is that, oh no wait, I figured it out. What? Alex's dad watched the movie. Yeah.

He comes to him and he's like, son, it's bad. And Alex thinks he's talking about the globalist. Right, but it's actually a review of the movie. Right, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, total, makes total sense. That actually makes a lot of sense. And Alex isn't gonna be able to handle it's bad. It's bad So he's got to rewrite an entire story about his dad being part of secret medical trials when he was 15

Yeah, yeah, so Alex talks more about his dad's journey sure and he mixes up some pretty critical details that he's established in the past That's just my dad's function. Do you have any idea? How many people they have recruited for this thing because the head of the UT body department that ran the plan Plan two minutes. Professor Strauss called my dad in and said, David, we've searched the whole country of the six finalists, you're the number one finalist. We're now going to reveal to you what this project is. And it's facing everything you see now. Worldwide government, worldwide eugenics, the whole shooting match. And then they gave you some other mission you won't tell me about it. You got out of it. Because it was bad. That's the real world folks. That's the real world, folks. That's the real world. Grow up. Okay.

Wow. That's fun. No, no, no, no, no, no. You get to get slapped. If you do that, you get to slap. Well, here's a fundamental problem with the way that Alex is telling the story, because we've essentially created what amounts to almost a time loop. Yeah.

He's got the doctor's name wrong, the botanist. That was Erwin Spear. Right. Alex has already talked about this in the past. Right. And Erwin Spear tried to recruit Alex's dad when he was like 16, 18 in that range, not in his late 20s. When he was doing medical testing. So if he was involved with this until his late 20s, that means that Irwin Spear would have told him like what the plans of the globalists are, all these evil things. And then he would have stayed in with the globalists

working with them for a decade. He would have been complicit in this stuff, in a way that I don't think Alex is willing to wrestle with. And I think that's so fun, because that's actually a great origin story for Alex. It's like Dr. Group and how his dad invented plastic. Exactly. It is so funny.

It is so funny. Yeah, you got to write the wrongs of your father. It's so much more of a captivating story than my dad is a superhero. Listen, the bad guys all wanted to recruit, but he was too noble. So he worked on CIA people's teeth. If Greek playwrights thought of it several thousand years ago, it's a good plan. And it's going to keep going. Okay. That's how you do it. Man, man, it's a good plan and it's gonna keep going. Okay? That's how you do it. Man, man, oh man. Alex needs to keep these details straight because when he just starts to get creative and

shit, it ends up being like, oh, this doesn't work with the story you've established in the past. Oh well, I guess his dad was a globalist for 10 years. I don't appreciate being told a child's fairy tale that ends with get it people. That's the real world. Wake up. Yeah, grow up. Yeah, I did not appreciate that. No, no, actually I do. Of course you do. It's so on the other side. It takes too much. Yeah, it's right. It's it's self-parity. It is. Yeah, it's like why even have all these degrees? We just need one one line. Yeah a lot of stuff frustrates me about Alex But when he said something like that, I'm fine. I'm bullet proof on that one. That's true

You've got that one down. So we've one last clip here, and it's Alex talking over turn the page. Okay now Based on what we experienced in our last episode. I want you to imagine this with no music Because oh my god, that's now my new thing. That's creepy. Yeah. Oh my God. There I go. They're in Starrgan. There I go. Turn the page. Turn the page. All right. So we're under UN World Government with an endgame to slowly collapse society,

while the collapseers pose as a savior as they kill. Seven and a half billion people at least. We are at the verge of oblivion. Just gonna finish this on real quick. But you just want to explode. Yeah, I see the unwashed masses. I see other lazy and dumb down. I see other systems on everything they can to make them that way. But I see the globalist. The ember edge scum, the self-appointed arrogance. There, the disease. They all killed themselves. Then I might respect him a little. And I might listen to their plan.

This should be psychotic or why do they use it? That is, do you know that? And why would you listen to their plan if they killed themselves? First, I don't even, I don't even want to, it's nonsense. I don't want to deal with that. It's a little bit like the Garfield without Garfield. Yeah, that is. Where it's like, oh, John is Existentially collapsing as a human being.

Yeah, my favorite thing in the world is just imagining the headspace of the engineer who's watching this. And he's like, I got to crack this music back up. I mean, yeah, right? Don't you don't you have to be like, oh, this needs Alex is floating. He has a drift going up. Okay, yeah, we go That would be a truly terrifying like supercut of That just Alex talking over music with the music removed

Yeah, and and having him do the weird little singing things that he does and then the the talking and then the somehow He's telling you a terrible story and criticizing somebody and then he'll still go when back into the lyrics at the same time. Yeah. You know what would be fun? I don't know. I'm imagining something that's too fanciful to exist.

And that is like Alex does a rant kind of like one of these opening rants, but it's to a different song. But at some point he says like take it to the streets. And then so you put under it that, take it to the streets. Like just put the wrong music under it, but it matches some word that you said.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know how that would work, but it would be real funny. Almost like a, almost like if the music was doing Beastie boys to you, you know sabotage. Yeah, no like it's all the sudden coming in on the final rhyme word. Oh, yeah Yeah, the song is coming back at you. I Man If I were one of these people who made YouTube videos and wanted to make something that might go viral.

Yeah. I would spend the time that it would take because it probably took quite a bit of time. Oh, I bet it would take a long time to invest in making that. If anybody wants a viral video suggestion, it probably won't work. And that will waste a lot of new times, especially if you don't complete it. Don't do that. Don't do it. So we come to the end of this and we've learned a little bit about who I... We have. Alex has said some racist shit about the D.A. We did. Alex prefers apartheid to everything really. Of all the examples to really if you're bringing out apartheid as one of your examples, it should be the example of the worst thing.

If you are bringing out apartheid as one of your than capitalism and then it's better than something you are a racist Yeah, well I agree. Yeah, so We'll be back indeed But until then we've website indeed we do it's not a try to calm. Yep. We're all Twitter We are on Twitter. It's a dollar just go fight. Yeah, we'll be back. But until then I'm neo-moe. I'm dzx Clark We'll be back. But until then I'm Neo and Leo and DZ fan. I love your work. I love you.