Knowledge Fight - #845: September 2, 2023

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

In this installment, Alex does a "special" Saturday episode where he interviews Mike Flynn about impending hack attack false flags, and then talks to his former employee Rambo Joe Biggs, live from prison, about how he's been sentenced to 17 years in jail for plotting a seditious conspiracy.

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where he gets time travels. Oh my God, I do remember the King Arthur, the King Arthur Erno, the kid in a King Arthur's court, but it was The Black versus. There's Martin Lawrence. Yeah, yeah, it's like Black Annie, it was fantastic. Yeah. Oh, man.

What are we doing? That movie played in a loop in the lobby of the theater I worked at. Yeah, I mean, I just I have it seared into my memory. The him saying, yeah, that is a free. I find it so weird. I think Martin Lawrence has one of the great careers in life. This movie is overall terrible, but there's five minutes that are, I'll hold those up for the rest of my life as being fucking hilarious. I don't remember much of that movie if I even did see it.

Oh no, I'm talking about every Martin Lawrence movie from the late 90s to the early 2000s. He said some movies that have had more than just minutes. He said some great movies. And to get a good stand up career going before he got into the movies. One of the great. Yeah. One of the greats. And he has the dubious honor of being kicked off of ever hosting SNL.

That's true. Ever again. So, you know, hey, what a career. Anyway, this sauce. Is that what we were talking about? Yeah. Okay. So I'm so sorry. Is that what we were talking about? Yeah, okay. I've recently moved closer to an Aldi than other grocery stores. And so I've started going down to the Aldi a little bit more.

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reorganize the main concept and turn it into a TV series and it's fantastic. The writing is is incredible and on this last season like one of the great things about writing okay is that the like best you can do is you can surprise the audience with elegance. Yeah, you know. That is a good thing to do. There's a million different ways to surprise your audience. There's a million different ways to like emotionally manipulate. There's all of these different tools, but when you come up with a very elegant solution that wraps up everything that you want it to do. Then you just sit there and all.

Yeah, and especially when you don't really fully see that bow being tied. Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the best you can do and they fucking nailed it. That's great. It's truly an amazing accomplishment. In the season finale, did you finally vanquish the Rhyme Nasseris? season finale. Did he finally vanquished the Rhymenossaurus?

No, it was more of a hip-hop eponymous defeat this time. Uh, rats. The end were all the humans dead. I'm trying to remember how many more flight of the conquered songs are we? Is there any inner city pressure? No, not bad. No, but you have to go on, you have to take a ride on the bus. Uh, bus driver is there a when the, uh, the bus driver gets off his shift. Is there ever a call that he makes from Bowie to Bowie? No, but there is a call he makes to Ian and Deanna.

I don't remember that. That's a song. Now you got it going on. All right. there is a call he makes to Ian and Deanna. I don't remember that. That's the song. Yeah, you got it going on. All right. Okay, how long do we do that? Just another 10 minutes or so. Okay, okay.

So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about I had a whole other plan, but then life gets in the way. And Saturday, on the second, September 2nd, Alex did a little special, oh no. Did a little special to talk to political prisoner Joe Biggs, calling in from jail, having been charged, convicted, and sentenced to 17 years in prison for organizing a seditious conspiracy. I'm going to be honest with you. Like outside of what we already know about info wars

and our experience with this. This is actually a genuinely exciting and interesting thing that I would be interested in hearing about an interview with a guy who was just convicted of attempting to overthrow America. On paper. On paper. That is an interesting interview. It is. paper on paper that is an interesting interview it is not why do I feel not when the person interviewing him is sort of a Confederate of his and they're invested in lying about everything that has to do with it then it's not so interesting yeah yeah not quite a real morris do in the interview do an insightful self-reflecting penitent sort of interview where someone is really taking stock of what they got themselves involved in. That would be very interesting.

That would be really interesting, because that's not this though. It's so crazy the idea of, hey, we accidentally tried to overthrow an entire nation. Not accidentally. Well, not accidentally, but you know what I mean? Like not entirely on purpose. Yeah, you remember that show, this isn't happening? Yeah. Storytelling show on Comedy Central.

There's a number of those stories have a sort of like, and all of a sudden I find myself in a situation where blank and it's like this extreme nonsense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like a series of decisions that you didn't know You were making led you to this point, right? And that could be you know something for somebody who tried to overthrow the capital Tell you know like all of a sudden I find myself in the rotunda

That's might as well be Mexicans got on boots could be got a bunch of references today I don't know what's going on you're coming in hot yeah that's must have gotten some sleepless night or something exciting or didn't or the

complete opposite yeah yeah so we'll get down to business on this episode that also involves uh big old star celebrities citing appearance. General Flynn is on. Oh, I thought it was gonna be Roger Stone. No.

He's a celebrity. He's General Flynn a celebrity? Compared to Roger Stone. I think an appearance by General Flynn is much more rare. Sure, he's hot right now. Well, but on Info Wars too, like Roger will show up anytime. That's true.

That's true. General Flynn, you gotta convince him. You do gotta work for him. So I think it's a little more special. Okay. It also sucks. Yeah. But we'll get to that here in a minute,

but before we do Jordan, let's say hello to some new wank. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, Jay from Spokaneokane the reheated in the microwave wonk. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much Thank you next filthy flying monkey who evolved out of the witches, but thank you so much you're an out policy wonk I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. This is in parentheses or a bracket excuse me fake laughter So that's your belly wick You're now policy won. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. No next all one word diamond roads

Thank you so much you are now policy won. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much Thank you and Dan B and Jordan's this I love you from another stupid let's play channel. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. I think that's a channel because it's all capital Another stupid let's play channel. Ah, we had a technical credit in the mixture and do so Thank you so much to Charlie the cat dad to Ezra Emmett Ellie Eugene and Elliott Hoke You are now a techno crack. Where's the okay, there it is. I'm a policy-walk. For starters, the Hunky and Mouth Intelli-East Brilliant.

Someone- someone, Sotomite sent me a book in a poop. Daddy Shark. Bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So Jordan, one thing that we wanted to do, we don't do a great job of these sorts of things. And maybe we never do, but... Possible.

We never do much promoting of things. No. But our trip to the UK is coming up in the, I mean, we talked about this before we recorded last time that like, man, it's, it's soon. It's happening. It's happening. And it is crept up. It is really a lot closer than I thought it was ever going to be. Yeah. When you fall into a little bit of a depression whole and then at the same time, are trying to just like keep moving with the, like like the work that's at hand and and and stuff. You you lose sight of time a little bit and it's like, okay, well, it's July. Nope. It's September. Why worry about the future?

I kind of don't believe I'm going to have one right now. Right. And then you do and here we are. Oh, I'm kind of regretting having a future right now. Yeah. So we have of course the Glasgow show, the London shows. And those are sold out. Those are right now. Yeah. So we have, of course, the Glasgow show, the London shows. Of course. And those are sold out. Those are sold out. Yeah. Um, they're, I mean, who knows? Maybe if you showed up, there might be a, someone didn't show up. I don't know if that's the case and I don't want to encourage people. I've, I've seen only like, so if, if you're on the waiting list, I've seen a few tickets,

cancel and then people snatch them up almost immediately too. So that's great that there's that system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also we are going to be in Manchester for the QED festival and tickets are still available for that. Now granted, we have a live show there and I'm gonna be doing a presentation about Alex Jones, which PowerPoint might be

involved. Oh, no, can we set up a thing where I get to heckle you? Yes. Okay. Yeah. I hope you sit on stage with a little booth. I need a crutch. I should have a dunk tank. All right. I don't want a dunk tank, but no, for me, I'll be in the dunk tank. And then if anything is ever going if anything's ever going in a trouble, you can always just throw a ball, hit the dunk tank and I'm down in there. Oh, all right. We're back at it or too much. Sass. I mean, it's possible. It's fair. You got to get soaked. But there are tickets still available to the QED Fest as a whole. It is like a larger ticket, but it is a lot more people speaking and a lot of interesting

skeptic type presentations. Also some other entertainment. I'm not exactly sure of all of the other things that are there. Yeah. But yeah, we'll have our live show there. And so, you know, if you're in the UK and you're desperate to see us and you didn't get in on those tickets, those are available. Yeah, absolutely.

And it's a good, I've heard nothing but very positive things about the vibe. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Which to me, like, I understand that you can explain to me what's going to happen at the conference or whatever it is, right? But I'm a comic, so I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna be like, these people aren't that funny. But what I've heard from everybody is that when you're there,

the vibe is so cool, everybody's so welcoming, everybody's so nice, so that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, definitely. Everything that I've heard from folks has been just a little bit less than early max fun con talks. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. I do remember how that felt like. Oh, they're building a cult.

Whoa. What is John Hodgman doing to these people right now? What is going on in their brains? Yeah, this is like, it's a positive time, everybody's nice, but we're not a cult. That's what the QED vibe seems to be. The exact opposite of a cult. Yeah, so you can check out their website

and if you wanna come see us and because it's a festival, we'll probably be walking around. And we will probably be walking around. You know, yeah. I probably wouldn't mind talking to somebody if they if they bothered me. I've tried to sweeten the pot here. It's come to QD. You might randomly wander into Dan's field division as he runs away

and hides in his room. I won't do. Oh, I know. I'll walk away. I know I'm not running you'll take the elevator. Yeah, so Jordan today we have the Saturday special Which yeah, it is what it is. Here's where we start. Okay, it is 11 12 central standard time We are coming you from the hospital. Yes, do you Osamimful Wars. It is Saturday, September 2nd, 2023. And for the next 45 minutes, General Flynn, one of the leading minds of the fighting against the globalists is joining us. And then Joe Biggs is scheduled if he can get through from prison, true political prisoner, to be joining us as well after he was sentenced to 17 years

in prison two days ago for committing absolutely no crime. None. So what are the fun vibes about this is because he's calling in from prison and it's not like the last time where he had a cell phone. Right. He can only call for 15 minutes at a time. Yeah. I think he's like, I don't know, he might be calling them collect or something.

But anyway, there's a voice that says, you have one minute left that plays and then he disappears and he has to call back later. And like, I don't understand why there was a second call. He ran out of steam in the first call. Yeah. It's just asking for money. Yeah.

Well, that's really all he is. That's what he, he's gonna be in prison for a long time. Right. So his ability to make money will be lessened, especially since slavery is still legal in this country if you are a felon. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. And the sort of agitation and street violence business isn't hot in prison. It's not giving you, that's what's on his resume. Yeah. Yeah. Angiotating and street violence. Yeah. And I mean, you think that when you are good at agitating and street violence outside that you can bring those skills inside. No, no, no,

because there's no sometimes there are better people inside are really good. A lot of them are really good. They have a lot of practice. They have, you know, like, we're not all prisoners. I guess when you go from triple A to the show, there's a difference. Not all prisoners I guess but you go from triple A to the show. There's a difference He's good. There's a speed check. There's a bit of a So Flynn comes in he's first and he wants to talk about the GOP I don't know I find Michael Flynn a very weird character He I feel like he sucks and he always sucked. But somehow he's debased himself. Like I feel like him going on those,

the like a reawaken America tour and coming on Info Wars, somehow beneath him. It's not, but it still feels like it is. Yeah, I think what happened for all of us is that we grew up in this generation of morning cartoons where the idea of being a general was such that you were clearly competent beyond reasonability. Yeah, there had been like elaborate vetting processes that would have weeded a person like who would go

on info wars out before they got to that point. And in cartoons that exists yeah because there's no nepotism in cartoons but in real life all of these people are fucking stupid yeah they're all dumb and that's just like general Flynn general Flynn is an epitism higher too yeah because his dad was aeroflin anyway here's the that clip part of part of what I do want to talk about in some of the time that I have is the Republican Party. Where's the Republican Party? Well, sir, you've got the floor.

And let me just interject there because you're reading my mind. I want to, before you have to go, get into, I understand you're defining for Americans, the Chai-Kon power group, the Russians, the globalist and sessionally work with both, but they're undermining America, trying to demoralize us, trying to make rep is destroying our cities. What is there, I mean, obviously, I believe you would agree, the globalists are the most powerful block. Here's the ultimate goal. Here's the ultimate goal.

I'm sorry, Alex, here's the ultimate goal. No, that's exactly what I was about to ask. What is there, here's their ultimate goal. No, that's exactly what I was about to ask. What is their goal? Yeah, I've said this, I've said this very publicly that their original intent was eight years of Obama, right? Steel this country, eight years of Obama. Check. And then get Hillary Clinton in charge

and have eight years of Hillary Clinton. And we would be done. You'd be done, I'd be done. We wouldn't be having this conversation. So to your audience and to the American people, that was their plan. Eight years of Obama. And if you weren't on the Obama, you know, if you didn't get on board with Obama, you didn't get on board with his team, you were out. You were out like I was out, you know, and then the next step, the next stage was a was was a controlled political person in the name of Hillary Clinton and and keep her

in there for another eight years. And we were we were blessed. We were blessed that that Trump this warrior stood up and you're using his own resources and putting his own life on the line. And then that held the rail their program while. Now, the rail to the 10 years behind. Jesus now look,, it's not the truth, but Michael Flynn could be Aero Flynn son technically. Aero Flynn died in 1959. No shit. Yeah.

Wow. Michael and born in 1958. No shit. The year before his death, he could have sired Michael Flynn. I appreciate the idea of like, hey, if we had Hillary Clinton in there for eight years, we'd be done as opposed to now. Look at us and how great we're doing. Right. Well, actually, I mean, I disagree with the point that you're making because I think that their economy is doing great. Like maybe, maybe not all financially, although I think that the

people who aren't named like Alex and the people who aren't being sued by Dominion, and the ones who aren't in prison now. Yeah, all of the folks who have sort of navigated that territory are doing great. I think that that ecosystem is doing well. Are they doing well or is it like, I don't know. I don't know.

Is these mentalities are far closer? These things are far closer to mainstream. Yes, well, that's fair. That's true. And if you're looking at it from a like, okay, do we have access to more people with our bullshit ideas? Right.

And then yes, I think they are doing better than they were in that's probably true yeah you're right you know gears back yeah well I mean that's probably because they didn't even need Hillary Clinton they all went nuts at Obama mm-hmm yeah yeah and and I think that they're they're you know what it's an interesting question we'll never know the the reality because it requires a counterfactual present. But like I think that if Hillary had gotten in, then they would all be doing great because they're really good at yelling about the Clintons. This is a game that they've been playing for a long time. And they could play up the like Trump should have won, you know, there's a lot of games that they could have played to make a lot of money.

up the like Trump should have won, you know, there's a lot of games that they could have played to make a lot of money. But at the same time, the four years of Trump, the chaos, the insanity, the 2020 election, all of that. And I mean, you have to factor COVID into it too in the vaccine. Like all of that broke so many brains. Yeah. That like maybe they wouldn't be in the position that they are with their information space. If it weren't for that like four years of unreality. It does, it does feel like they would be better off

if they were kind of allowed to just be mad at the Clintons. The world was slightly more competently run, but it wouldn't feel as good. Like it was four years of a Coke binge, you know? And then they woke up there like, I'm never going to be the same again. I took too much Coke at the same time. You can get a lot done during the Coke. You can do a lot during a Coke. You can make a lot of changes to your life.

You can make something that you can't make. Yep. Yep. You know, Michael Flynn's birthday is? The day Aril Flynn died. Christmas Eve. What? Yeah, he was the gift that his parents unwrapped

on Christmas Eve. That's one the night before. That's cute. Is. Who's it? I don't like people who have birthdays that are holidays. You don't like them personally? Yeah. You don't like the existence of that being possible. No, I think it's selfish You think they have

Personally chosen yeah, okay. Yeah, all right So you're saying that the spirit does choose the body that it enters. I'm not saying that I'm not sure of the mechanics That's good point what I am saying. None of I am saying. None of us are sure of the mechanic. What I am saying is like, if you're born on a holiday, change your birthday. It's arbitrary. It is totally arbitrary. Doesn't really mean anything.

Doesn't mean anything. See, my birthday is great, because it's nothing. Yeah. It's, I don't really have a point here. No, I'm just bored by Michael Flynn. Yeah. Anyway, he has some Obama news, but he doesn't. He just has news that is going to be coming.

There's the guy right there, Obama. There's going to be some things coming out on him in the next couple of weeks on Obama that his relationship, the type of person that he is. Well, you said that six months ago, and now it has come out. You know, the homosexuality, the fact that he's blackmailed, just you're saying, because you obviously knew, you're saying even more stuff's coming out. Yeah, more stuff is going to come out. And I think that what we're going to find is, is that, we've been lied to. So, so that's in the past and what, and, and, but we cannot forget that

Alex. We cannot forget that we've been lied to. We've been deceived. We cannot forget that, Alex. We cannot forget that we've been lied to. We've been deceived. Did I miss the news? I'm so confused as to why we're talking about Obama and his sexuality. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen.

Fuck, this is big news, come on. I get that you're mad about Obama still, and that's fine. I get it. I'm still mad about W. That's fine. We're mad about things from the past, but we can't do anything about it And it seems really weird for me to if I was just like hey, there's gonna be some real negative news coming about about W in the next Come on, like what? Yeah, what are you talking? Why are you wasting my time with this? Unless it had like

implications to a major story like yeah, you would care if it was something like I don't know he had like some sort of it was news that he put out paintings of dogs god damn it right and you can be annoyed by that I'm annoyed by it but I'm not going to be like oh big news yeah no it's not if it had something to do with like 9 11 or the Iraq war or something. And then it might matter. Well, if it's like, we've got some news about W and through that we're going to take down Yale, then you'd be like, yeah, this is some big news about W. Yeah, but that's because it's a big story

in and of itself. Yeah, exactly. And it just touches on George Cash. Exactly. Because it's a little judge. This is just like peddling. Like, first of all, I don't think it's true, but then it's also tabloid level personal shit.

Yeah. Cares. Yeah, but I mean, that's the problem though, is I don't care about it that for any human being. No, really. That's tabloid level shit. So, so. So, Klaus Schwab is apparently also, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so And we've just finished with this book, this Artificial Intelligence book. But I actually think that we're going to see a cyber attack or a cyber disruption that

is so vast, that it's going to, it's going to basically disrupt the entire internet. And I mean to the point of where it's going to shut everything down. And we have become so connected as a society. And so if you, I mean, we were joking on the back, you know, prior about generators. And you know, you have a, you have a $100,000 generator, but you got a 50 cent piece that's missing. And so the whole thing goes to, you know, but.

Two men with X's. I was about to say, I was like, whoo. I was like, maybe, maybe he's, maybe somebody with X is is going to the top. Uh-huh. Yeah Someone called customer service Who's the next one who's the next level up the chain? Could you send me? Yeah, it's kind of a bland prediction This seems to be like what a lot of the Folks like Alex are kind of preoccupied with now. I mean, yeah, but that's, yes.

It makes sense. Yes, there is going, that's like saying, there's going to be another pandemic. There's going to be another virus that, yes. Yeah, we know. There at some point will be like a technological challenge of some sort. Yeah.

Like systems exist. Like there is no perfect system. But, necessarily, there's going to be hiccups in places and a good system is one that's mindful and aware of like potential problems. Yeah. And I think that most of the internet infrastructure is, people are pretty aware of how important it is.

You know, one time I, I, I, I, I don't know why, I read this book on sailing or whatever it was. And the Christopher Cross song. Something along those lines. But it was like those old transatlantic ships that would cross from England to, I mean, fucking the slave ships, right? But the way you did that was essentially

a crew was in a constant state of repair. Yeah. Like you're always repairing your, you're always replacing this board, you're always replacing this thing, you're always sewing. Like it's a, it is a circle of repairs, right? And I feel like we're coming to a point where we're discovering that we have not had that circle of repairs going on the entire time and maybe we should have. Yeah, or we've been skimping on it a little. And even though we cut in corners here or there.

No. And that's not a good idea whenever you're traveling across the ocean. Yeah. Or you have a bridge. Or there is life. Yeah. Or death of the lead. Yeah, you know, it is interesting too.

You have the people who are in a constant state of repairing things. And yet things still you understand are sometimes gonna sing. You know, like it is just in inevitability. Well, I mean, that's why we create gods because otherwise, how do you explain that? Like, oh shit, I did everything right and then my ship exploded.

So Poseidon's real, the end. Right. Yeah. Well, that's a lot,on's real, the end. Right. Yeah. Well, that's a lot, but wait, yeah, sure. Yeah. So Flynn talking to Alex and Schwab has said this, like he's broadcasted that this is what's gonna happen. These cyber attack type things.

And so the question comes up of like, why do the globalists do this? Why do they telegraph what they're gonna do? And we know the answer is intergalactic space law. Exactly. They have to. You have to, because you're karma space contracts. Yeah, otherwise the devil doesn't have his full power.

Surprisingly, that does not come up. We, why do the globalist telegraph? Like, people ask how I'm able to predict stuff, they telegraph what they're gonna pull next. A virus is gonna hit, it's gonna disrupt Trump. A virus will defeat Trump, especially when Fauci and Schwab said a year before. And then it happens.

What? I guess they want to brag to their minions to show off or they're pre-programming their people because if I was gonna do something evil like that, a peacock, of course I wouldn't, but hypothetically, I wouldn't telegraph it. They're telegraphing that the cyber is the next big move. It'll make, it'll make COVID, you know, look like nothing in Schwab's words.

And I just show, show, why are they telegraphing and then lay out how serious this is? Okay. So for everybody, right? My whole world for three and a half decades in the military was to think like our enemy was going to potentially act. Okay, so I had to think about and then provide scenarios to those that I was supporting, the infantrymen or the armor or the aviators or the, you know, the guy, the operators who were going to go out and do a mission

to put their own lives on the line. So for many, many years, three and a half decades of my life, I had to think about what was the enemy going to do. So I studied the enemy, I studied them relentlessly. And what I learned, one of the big lessons that I learned is what you just said, that the enemy will typically telegraph what it is that they're going to do. And if you if you learn enough about your enemy enough about him and you know you don't have to you don't have to know every single deep dark secret that's in their heart because that's hard to say but if you know that they're evil then you better understand you know how evil operates but what they typically do and what they've always done they've always told us what they were going to do.

And people used to say to me, Jesus, Flynn, you're a mad man. Some of the things that you come up with that you say the end of it. And for those that don't know, you never took your own horn. You were the first major general, I mean, major, I mean, you're a major person

of the staff to say, China's gonna break and double crosses. I mean, you basically laid all this out a decade before it happened. So why do bad guys telegraph, answer that for me and then get into what you think next. So Alex can pull out this whole thing about Flynn being worried about China as evidence of how right he is, but that's just one data point. And if you look at Flynn's wider career, you see someone that Alex should not be supporting. For instance, Alex is supposed to be against

the Iraq war. In his world, it was launched on fragile and evidence, the globalists in the P-NAC had pre-planned the war years in advance and had pulled off 9-11 in order to make sure it went ahead. Does Alex not realize that General Flynn was a very senior official working in intelligence directly involved in carrying out that war? Flynn worked directly under General Stanley McChrystal, the guy who was the subject of Michael Hastings' last major piece of the runaway general, which led to McChrystal's resignation, and according to Alex, Hastings murder.

I get that Flynn is currently doing this kind of wacky conspiracy shit that Alex likes, but he should be really wary of this guy whose entire career has been defined by things that Alex should be staunchly opposed to. And if I were Alex, which is to say if I were paranoid, conspiracy lunatic, I'd be very ambivalent to get involved with Flynn. It's like Steve Pichanic. Like sure, he says he's not running siops on you, but how do you know that's not a siop?

That's not to get involved. Flynn wrote a paper in 2010 called Fixing Intel, and I think Alex should probably read it. This was a paper that was seeking to deal with the difficulties of collecting Intel on insurgent groups and how the intelligence community could adapt to better, gather good intel. One of the major suggestions was, quote, select teams of analysts will be empowered to move between field elements, much like journalists, to visit collectors of information at the grassroots level, and carry that information back with them to the regional command level. A paranoid person might suspect that Flynn's actions look a whole lot like what

one of these analysts might do if they were pursuing this goal. This is almost certainly not what's going on, but as a rule, if someone's entire career is stuff you've been against and then all of a sudden they seem cool and want to be part of your group and their experts in siops or counterinsurgency, you should not give them the benefit of the doubt. That is bad operational security. This is not cool. Yeah. Just because he's a celebrity or high-profile or whatever doesn't make it worth doing this. I think this is very notable to me because normally Alex is telling us about how the globalists are doing exactly what he would do if he were evil.

And yet in this case, it appears that Alex is saying, hey, why don't these guys use the element of surprise, something we all know to be extremely useful? Well, it must be because they have to do this. Right. But we know why. And then Flynn- It's intergalactic law. Yeah. We know that.

Yeah, because Flynn's whole bullshit about, oh no, you have to understand your hand- Oh, yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. That's why you guys caught 9-11 before it. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, yeah. That's- But that's why Alex refocuses the question and is like, why do they do the telegraphing?

You're not getting a concrete answer. Yeah. And so it comes back to this. Why do they do the telegraphing? They don't. Space law. Yeah. Why do bad guys telegraph?

Answer that for me and then get into what you think next. They telegraph because they don't have all of the resources that they need at their back in call. They need to rely on other aspects of the geography and the way. Just like the average anti-flame isn't getting orders to burn things down, that just no go out and burn stuff down. Exactly. What?

So they're calling on their militia basically. Exactly. It's like I've got to put that it's a dog whistle, it's a bit of a dog whistle. So you guys don't believe in dog whistles. So you can, I was going to say, yeah, what are we doing that? So this is not at all what Alex has said in the past. And it's weird that he's not bringing up intergalactic cosmic law with Flynn here. It seems like maybe he wants this interview to see more grounded in reality. So he's not diving into space contracts Less Flynn look at him like the person that he actually is. Are you sure it's not the interdimensional literal Christian devil Who is forcing people to announce in advance what they are going to do. How say you Flynn?

If I understand correctly the globalists telegraph their plans so that the minions can hear the dog whistle and then make the plan happen. That mechanically makes sense in the case of Alex's fantasy about Antifa burning down buildings, but how does this work with COVID? Alex said earlier in this interview that people like Fauci telegraphed COVID in speeches prior to the outbreak, so does that mean that like someone listening heard that dog whistle and then created a novel coronavirus to release. Like what the fuck are you talking about? No, he was talking to the viruses themselves. Okay, that's possible. They all got together and they were like, how do we accomplish this goal?

These viruses have an epigenetic memory to be evil. The point here is that nothing Alex says means anything and he'll be happy to contradict himself tomorrow if it makes it easier for him to spin a yarn today. Yeah. This explanation that Flynn is giving works for the flow of this conversation and Flynn is a very high status guest. So fuck Cosmic Law and the devil. It's just a human resources and logistics issue. They don't have the resources to pull off their plans so they dog whistle it out and hope that someone on the ground does it.

Fuck you. What an incredibly insane idea of how an enemy would work. Well, like that's absurd. That's not an enemy, that's a cartoon that you're describing. Well, not totally, because it is kind of a description of some stochastic terrorist ideas. You know, you put it out there, fuck all these people. You know, in the same way that like you get you see this happen over and over again

People on Twitter people like right wing shit heads like lips a tic-tac will Single out some place that's having a drag queen story time, but then they get bomb threats, right? That is this that's the plan right, but that's not a plan and we know that's not a plan because it doesn't actually lead to anything Plan right, but that's not a plan and we know that's not a plan because it doesn't actually lead to anything happening Like it doesn't lead to a thing changing, you know like okay That's that's just like it fire right yeah, and then the plan is to make a thing happen because that happened well You this is just fire you well things do happen well they happen, but like a fucking machine gun happens Is there spraying bullets left and right right a. A plan is not a machine gun. No, but that is their plan.

Right, but them, I know. I'm, you understand what I'm saying. I understand, we're going back and forth on the same thing. Right, right. This, this is descriptive in, it's not perfectly at like one to one, but it is fairly descriptive of the dynamic that they're the terrorist edging

and it ends up creating. Yes. But it doesn't really make sense for a plan. I get what you're trying to achieve something like a specific goal. It makes no sense. When you're trying to just cause terror. And yes, that's the thing that we weren't able

to put our finger on. Yeah, we're just, yeah. Um, so yeah, I don't know, I think this is dumb. It's very dumb. Yeah. Oh, well, I mean, cause again, why, why do they telegraph their plans? Ah, because they don't have the resources to do a plan.

Mm hmm. What? Mm hmm. Okay. All right. Why not? I thought they have like all of the currency in the world. And I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, let's get literate. You know, some two used to say that back he wrote about it and he used to say back back in the day back when I was coming up. Right. Some two used to say this. issue. That guy was always saying this on the first name basis. You know some

suit used to say that the fact he wrote about it and and in fact he wrote about it. He knows him but everything in war is deception. I want people to understand what I just said. Everything is in line with his deception. We are in a war right now. There are some physical components out there, clearly physical components over in Europe. There's clearly physical components still in Afghanistan or Iraq, you know, around the world. There's physical components in every single major city in this country. And it's called, you know, things like defund the police, that defund the police phrase that goes back to the Bolshevik

revolution in the under the era of Stalin. So everywhere police. Oh, it stayed apart. Amendment random 7277 from 1962 to disarm the police and then our military only have a UN force. That's the official policy. Exactly. So there's a few problems with the thought process that these guys are engaging in here the first is that trimming police budgets is not an idea that people got from the bullshavik revolution in the same way that folks who want to increase police budgets didn't get that idea from george washington this shit is stupid

now we need to address the sun's you quote the full version is quote all warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable. When using our forces, we must appear inactive. When we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away. When far away, we must make him believe we are near. It's important to understand the kind of deception Sun-Zoo is talking about here and how it doesn't relate at all

to what Flynn is talking about. He's making the point that something like defund the police isn't actually about defunding the police. That's a deception that the globalists are using to mask their true intentions, which is to take over the world and communism. Yeah, in this case, it would be defund the police. Ha ha, that's when we're trying to fund the police.

Yeah, this is a motive based uh... deception that flin is talking about where is sunsou is talking about tactics based deception these aren't analogous but flin and Alex know that none of their audiences read the art of war and flin is a high status guests so whatever it might as well be the same in line with sunsou if what Flynn brings up or actually deception, that the globalists would be intending to raise police budgets by making the public think that they

wanted the budgets lowered, but that's not the argument that Flynn's making. The only other time that deception is mentioned in the text is in a section about spies and how you should have some spies that are meant to be caught. These spies would be reported to your other, they would be reported by other spies in order to make the other spies seem more credible to the enemy. Well, it's a classic, you know, if you wanna get away with big lies,

then you have to get caught in your small lies. Limited hangouts. I mean, it's like, oh, if people think that they can always catch you when you're lying, well, then that's why you can get away with the big lies because people won't assume that you're lying. That. That's the trick. Again, Sunsue. Sunsue, I always say in that. Sunsue would not shut up about how you got a small lie to big lies.

That's right. Yep. He's weird. As for state memorandum 7277, that was, it's not official policy. Oh, yeah. It was never put into place, nor would it even be enforceable in any way. Ah, it was a suggested plan in order to avert nuclear war between the US and Soviet Union, which isn't even relevant anymore, since one of those things doesn't exist. It did have some good ideas, though, like full nuclear disarmament. It didn't involve getting

rid of all cops, though, as the final stage involved this, quote, states would retain only those forces, non-nuclear armaments, and establishments required for the purpose of maintaining internal order. It's kind of like pie in the sky type of idealism where countries would be prohibited from threatening or attacking each other, and an international body would exist to resolve conflict. It's a great end result if you could craft a functioning system to achieve it, but getting to that end result is literally impossible. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know have fun. Yeah. Have fun. Considering it's been 80 years since that was written. No, not 80 years. Fuck 60 years 60 60 70 yeah, yeah late 60s and

No progress made on that front now still got nukes all over the place still got cops everybody's fighting each other I know international body that has any kind of Potence to to get involved my favorite thing about people who are Marshallly Inclally inclined is that there's always like a, this came from the much more recent past than several our entire existence is. If you are the person with fucking boots, you are like, why don't these people like it

when I ask them to lick them? I don't understand. So then you create cops to force people to lick your boots. No one has ever liked cops. No one likes cops. It's not a thing that exists. I like cartoons. That, yes.

Everybody likes TV cops. Everybody likes TV, FBI. I like some of the characters on the wire. I like TV war. I like some of the characters on the wire. I like TV war. I like TV shit. But in the real world, this is all very fucking stupid. I'm trying. And everybody is doing it as dumb. I was trying to come up with a specific example,

but I can't because I just have a generic version of a cop whistling and spinning a club. And spinning the thing. Yeah! Oh, show! So, we're having a good time. Doesn't have to be Irish. It's a shot to hair. Doesn't have to be an Irish guy. No, yeah. But I was gonna say you're gonna go

bell faster Dublin. Which are we doing? Whistling and swinging a club around, saying hello to the neighborhood, saying hello to people. Yelp, petting a dog. I like that. It's not real, but I like it.

Not real, not real. Not what they're for. Not what they're for. So you may be asking yourself about this time. Mm-hmm. Who does a Flynn like in the realm of politics? Obviously, Trump. But beyond Trump.

So I just want to take a minute to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Number one, they won't provide him a secret service which tells you everything that they plan on potentially doing to that guy. Number one, or number two, the Kennedy, every time I hear him, I'm like, Jesus Kennedy, you sound like you're an America first guy. You sound like a damn American who...

You sound like either your old school Democrat and you're right there in the center of the country or you're on the conservative side because of the way you're speaking. And I would say that even center of the country, or you're on the conservative side because of the way you're speaking. And I would say that some of the things that he's written about. So I like him and I know him. And when I see guys like him,

I mean, he gives me hope because the Democrats, the Democrats now are the Marxist party, right? So the Democrats are not going to do a debate with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. White because he represents something that they fear, which is honesty and truth. Why don't they want to have, why aren't they going after Donald Trump so hard?

Because he represents honesty and he represents the truth. Oh, crimes also. Yeah, I was going to go with the crimes. Crimes. Yeah, I was gonna go with the crimes. Crimes. Yeah. Yeah, Nancy Pelosi noted Marxist. You know, you can represent honesty and the truth and still commit crimes,

but you would have to acknowledge that you did the things. That is part of being honest. Well, I was, I mean, I think this is all pretty dumb, but I was lost in thought about, is it possible to like represent honesty and not the truth or truth and not honesty? Right. I don't think it is. I mean beauty is truth and truth is beauty according to Keats and he got that from Sun Siu. If you if you represent something like let's say truth, then truth must have a specific definition. It should not be subjective.

Right. Anyway, considering that truth and honesty are both very subjective words, that can be very similar in terms of what they're driving at. Right. But look, here's the thing. What? Every single fucking election, you do seem to notice that the Republicans are really interested in getting behind a shitty Democratic candidate and insisting like, oh, they're

a good one. They're the good example of a Democrat. Saw this every single fucking election. It begins to be a little predictable in a noyan. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna matter. RFK, I don't think has the juice. I mean, I don't think there will be a plurality of voters period. I don't think any of us want any of these people to be in the government.

You may be, but I think that people will be... I think Trump won't be allowed to, because he will be in the government. Um, you may be, but I think that people will be... I think also Trump won't be allowed to because he will be in prison. I mean, you can run for prison? You can run in prison. Yeah. But you can't run from prison. Not if you've been sentenced there.

Well, I mean, you can't run from prison. You can't, then people can try and catch you. You can't run away from prison. You can run from prison from prison. You can't, then people can't try and catch you. You can't run away from prison. You can run for president from prison. Um, yeah, I think that enough people would be motivated to go to the polls. Um, and vote. Let's say if Robert F. Kennedy is a legitimate candidate, sure. And there's a risk of him winning the primary against Biden. Right. As even though people are not incredibly enthusiastic about Biden, the prospect of RFK Jr.

I think enough people would be like, oh my God, that guy is a lunatic. He, like his beliefs are not in line with most of the democratic voting banks. Yeah, yeah. So I think that people would be like, we better not allow him to be the candidate. You can't surprise, listen, I get it. A lot of people will be like, we better not allow him to be the candidate. You can't surprise, listen, I get it.

A lot of people will be like, oh, okay, junior, cool. Fine. But then when you actually hear him talk, you're like, okay, no, then no. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the claim that he isn't getting secret service protection, that's actually true, but it's not a conspiracy. It's because they only provide protection for major candidates and someone pulling pretty low super early in the lead up to a primary that's not a major candidate It would be unheard of for him to have

Protection this early I mean he beyond Besides literally Biden and Trump he would be the only one with He is also a fucking Kennedy. Yeah, you could pay for your own security if you want right now You know, I think I I what was it? I think we were talking to it was the will summer interview and I was joking about how it's gonna be Nicky Haley Mm-hmm man Weird stuff is happening everybody hates to say it is Trump's going to prison Everybody else is RFK junior or some guy named Doug fucking Doug fucking Doug. I still don't know who he is

If if that turns out to be true, it will not be a prediction that I made on purpose But it'll be really funny to me. Yeah Amanda More was telling me that Doug showed up to the debate in crutches and showed up to the debate in crutches. And Doug, and I was like, this is such bullshit. If Trump was there, he would have kicked those crutches. I know he would have knocked him over. I was like, this, this is not 2016. No, no, this is not Trump standing behind Hillary weirdly.

Vivek can like, you know, do some bullshit and you know, pander a bit and be weird. But like, no, like, Trump was hostile. I appreciate, I'm annoyed, I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed at the, I'm annoyed at the GOP, because we're all acting like Vivek is not. It's Vivek and I only know that. Well, I respect people like how they pronounce their names.

Sure, sure, sure, sure. And I only know that because in a freestyle Wrap that I watched him do he said it rhymes with cake. Oh, that's the only reason Well, I'll give it to Vivek again the idea that in 2024 election The GOP is gonna vote a non-white white person. I mean that's insane It seems like a very unlikely thing. And the Soros ties earlier in life are going to be a real problem.

I mean, it should, let's just all be honest about the GOP more than not are going to vote for a white person above all else. Sure. So let's just be honest about that. You're all a bunch of fucking races. I know all of you, but most of you. But if you have a community and a voting party, let's say that is not, maybe not overwhelmingly racist, but it has a bit of a problem with racism. It serves your interests to have non-white candidates who are, you know, you show acceptance towards them. Exactly. Even if there is not like a chance that they're going to win.

It serves your interests. Right. It does not serve our interests. I don't know of anything that's happening in the GOP primary serves my interests. That is another good point. Yeah. These are all good points. I'm rooting for Doug.

Ah, man. Can't go wrong with a Doug. Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug. I'm rooting for the TV show Doug. Yeah, Patty Manay. Yeah, exactly. Patty Manay is for Vice President. First lady. No, they don't get married. How dare you? Wait, do they get married? In my head can in their well, that's fair enough. Well, she's got a Mary Skeeter. They're in high school. Come on, grow up. Yeah, they will grow up. Just 20 years ago. ago. Anyway, RFK, a lot of assassinations in his family

and so that topic comes up. And one of the statements that Malcolm X said is anybody that calls themselves a liberal, liberal democratic said, be very carefully. He talked about liberals, right? He says, be very careful about somebody who says they're liberal. And then a couple of days later when he gave that speech, he was dead. He was assassinated. So, you know, that

that time in our history, physical assassinations were much easier to get away with. And then, of course, you could hide everything and classify it or it's under investigation. Now physical assassinations would be very, very difficult to get away with because everybody's got a damn I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean we got you know I mean this is the time and I hope it is because I hate to think that. So man that didn't used to be easier. We got pictures of the fucking Archduke Ferdinand being assassinated. Yeah and according to Alex, millions of people were killed in the past year by a deadly vaccine which makes you die of what appeared to be natural causes. Yeah. The globalists have heart attack guns and they tried to poison Trump with his diet coax. They tried to kill Roger, not only with car crashes,

but also poisoning him with polonium. If anything, Alex says means anything, the necessinations are very much in style. It's just that the people who try to pull them off have plans that are so dumb, they sound like something Alex made up. Like, when are you talking about? This is bullshit.

Also, I did not look up that Malcolm X quote. I probably should have. I don't know if it's real or if he is confusing it with Martin Luther King juniors. I want to say he's idea about the white liberal. Yeah. I want to say that he's totally doing that. Yeah. Yeah. That seems to be what I feel. But I would assume that Malcolm X probably had some similar feelings. Oh Oh, no, no, no, I'm yeah Malcolm X was not a fan of the Chair liberal. I don't know if Malcolm X and Martin Luther King did slight Milktoast liberals for the same reason Well, that's the funny part about that. You don't, don't you dare be like, ah-ha, see, Martin Luther King Jr.

hated these white liberals just like I do. We are the same. Yeah, these people who I would probably rude on being assassinated were I alive at the time. And not just that, but like the people who I was, like when you, if you are Michael Flynn in Obama's military cabinet or whatever, that's you. So we got one last clip here with Flynn and this feels vaguely familiar. Yeah, that could be in charge of a big win in abdomination to American culture.

They'd be 10 times more powerful, but they have a needle dick. Why do the globalist hate us so much? Why do they have it out for us? Needle Dicks. They hate us because they hate just authentic, honest people who they cannot control. You're a spy. I mean, you're a struly here.

It's like when I was in the tail end of my military time, you know, one of the, one of the, and this is public, you know, one of the reasons why I was, I was, you know, told the leave basically a year early from a job that normally would be three years was because I wouldn't tow the line for the talking points that I, I just was on the run, that Al Qaeda was on the run and no longer a threat,

just went to a line because that wasn't the truth. Do you know why I think that sounds familiar? Sort of. We've talked about why the globalists hate us. Sounds like he's saying they hate us for our freedom. It does seem very similar to that. Yeah, almost like the line. Yeah, that's weird.

Hmm. Huh. Also weird that Alex weird. Hmm. Huh. Also weird that Alex doesn't point out that the globalists actually hate us because they work for the devil who's told them that they need to sacrifice almost all of the population to feed Saturn and create a Silicon God who will rule Earth.

Yeah. Probably doesn't want Flynn to think he's insane. I would doubt he'd throw that one out to Flynn. Also weird that Alex doesn't bring up his belief that Alcada and ISIS aren't real and are just the globalists. Probably doesn't want to risk Flynn flat out rejecting that since his entire career revolved around fighting those terrorist groups. Yeah, that's true. In a situation like this, Alex needs to just play along, even though it contradicts his entire world view,

because he's a nothing means anything. Yeah, I mean, that Flynn is able to get away with being Flynn and then going to the far right is just evidence of how stupid easy it is or you know, it's evidence of his smoothness, which he inherited from his father, Errol. So Joe Biggs comes in. Okay. Now, let's go to Joe Biggs, who was just wrongfully convicted and sentenced to 17 years in prison, former info wars reporter totally innocent, charged with terrorism, terrorism sentencing for being there when Ray Apps broke through the fence. This is insane.

Joe, I love you brother and you you know, you're a political prisoner and we appreciate you. I know you only get 15 minutes per call. When you've got a call back at 15 again, so we've got about 12 minutes before they hang up on you, then we'll be waiting for you to come back on again in about 30 minutes. But how are you holding up and you've got the floor? Hey, you know, it's all right. You know, my heart, you know, this is ridiculous. You know, they said that shaking offense with with tantamount to terrorism. No, they didn't.

Um, but, you know, this is, uh, this is interesting. I think that you'll probably get less time in the future. Yeah. I would imagine that, um, the board of prisons or the warden, are there still have wardens? I, I don't know. I don't know. I remember, I remember being real interested in the idea of wardens and how much power they wielded. I imagine that's probably movie stuff.

Yeah, but I still think that it's probably not something they're going to allow a ton, you being a guest on conspiracy ass radio show that was instrumental in organizing and facilitating the crime that you committed. There is a very, like, if I'm going up for parole, right? And they're like, do you, you know, disavow your previous feelings and like, do you not want to commit those crimes anymore? Yeah. I wouldn't be like, nah, dude, I call into Info Wars every week. Yeah, like if you were a, like let's just say,

you know, you worked for a Nazi radio show or something. Yeah. And then you were convicted of conspiracy to start a riot that ended up in some deaths and, you know, and all this and you go to prison and, are you gonna be allowed to call in to that ended up in some deaths and, you know, and all this and you go to prison and are you going to be allowed to call in to that radio show, that Nazi radio show, the Euro? It seems like something that would be inappropriate.

And you're right. I mean, if you want to look at it from a parole standpoint, it shows like a lack of remorse pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah. That's the most lack of remorse you can have. Yes. It's calling into the show that you were a

stetastic terrorist on and asking for money to keep doing it. Right. And painting yourself as such a martyr in a way that makes it more likely that other people will do the same thing that you did. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Cool.

So there's a lot of lies in their interview. Yeah. What? I know it's shocking uh... like it doesn't work we went there that day with no plan with nothing we were there like every other american but it's because we're political group you know uh... we knew that there was going to be a lot of the soon as uh... joe by mentioned

uh... in the first presidential debate i knew that there's something going on with this insuring up even in reakeye called it um... they're going to put us in chains and sure enough they have hey dumb dumb don't go then you have that if you have that awareness or something you thought it was you know by the head out for you don't go i mean because then your argument is this

we went because we thought we were going to win mhm so if because then your argument is this, we went because we thought we were gonna win. Mm-hmm. So if that's your argument, then I'm gonna add another 17 years to your sentence. Right. There's no point in letting you out. Right. I knew that we were going to be like a targeted and all this and I was going to be set up and put in prison.

So the only reason I went is because I thought we had overwhelming enough force. If we won, then I wouldn't be in trouble. Exactly. I thought it was going to work that we would get the election overturned. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, 34 years. I mean, I'd be fine, honestly.

You know what's weird? That's totally a good answer. That's a good answer. Well, it is, but it also shows intent. Exactly. Pretty hard. But that's what I'm saying. You know, like, I intend. The intent is what he's trying to deny.

Right, right, right. I understand why he's doing what he's doing. And I understand the choices that everybody's making along the way. But to me, it makes perfect, it's like a reasonable thing. Listen, I thought I could overthrow the country so that I wouldn't be in trouble. Right, right?

Cool. Yeah, you nailed it. I had my back to the wall. Yeah. Shit was was bad I was gonna go like I was in some trouble but there was a low odds like a long shot a hail Mary pass that I could get out of trouble yeah it went bad didn't work out went bad yeah if it didn't you've seen this in movies I think, I mean it's yeah But it is it is like they're trying to oceans 11 it, you know like oh we're con men that got caught

So we can lie our way out of out of all this shit, and it's like no again not a movie I understand you guys think movies are real not a move real but You know the thing that we were all really need to wrestle with is that there's no evidence that they planned anything not but all that i mean so many text messages no no no no no no evidence you know we went to a long drawn out trial five months

and not once that the fbi ever have proof of a plan there was no intelligence of a plan not one of the rats that came forward said that there was a plan everyone said that there was zero plan of anything happening that day by us and yet they got us for conspiracy to plan this uh... they said we had this meeting of the mind without ever actually saying anything and happened on the fly at the first breach

so apparently we all had this telekinesis power we all agreed that from there on out when this first to know since went down and everyone walked forward that we were all going to stop the certification of the election and that's what they got the jury to say and the jury would have convicted of the sorcery in which craft and murder if that was up to vote on. Man, if you had telekinesis, you could have pulled that off way easier.

I mean, you should have done it way earlier, frankly. This is a really brazen way for Joe to lie to the audience about stuff that's like really easy to refute. For instance, if you just read the indictment, the initial one, you'll find that they had an encrypted group check called the Ministry of Self Defense, which was an elite group of hand-picked proud boys who were literally called the, quote, National Rally Planning Committee. Bigs and Riccatiro and Rufio Panman were literally one of the three person councils that were in charge of that group. On January 5th at 9.20pm, Joe Biggs literally texted the leadership

group, quote, we have a plan. I'm with Rufio. I gave Enrique a plan. The one I told the guys, and he said he had one earlier in the day, he texted them, quote, just trying to get our numbers so we can plan accordingly for tonight and go over tomorrow's plan. Multiple times in the indictment, it's made clear that they want to show up to intimidate Congress into not certifying the election and they have a plan. Wow.

So keep using the word plan. Have as a bunch. Interestingly, there's one point where one person said, quote, there's no planning of any sort. Everything is compromised and we can be looking at gang charges. Stop everything immediately. This comes from the top. This was after Enrique Tario was arrested and the proud boy is rightly were worried We can be looking at gang charges, stop everything immediately, this comes from the top.

This was after Enrique Tario was arrested and the proud boys rightly were worried that all of their planning they'd been doing was now known to the cops. So, they pretended not to be planning anything and started a new group chat where the planning continued. And now, they've been convicted of seditious conspiracy, so it's back to pretending there was no planning. Joe Biggs isn't a revolutionary or political prisoner He's a coward who wants to role play some kind of man of action

He's perfectly suited to be a dumbass enforcer reporter or drunk street fighting racist But he has nothing else in him past that he got too ambitious after the 2020 election and punched well above his weight class So now he's learning that this shit isn't a game. I'm still against the carceral state and I favor rehabilitation whenever it's possible. But Rambo Joe Biggs is way down the list of people I'm going to exert my empathy for. Yeah, he's I've got I've got bigger issues with the police and Jails. Yeah, then then Joe Biggs. This whole like the whole 15 minute call, all of that. Like all of that is to fuck people over just for the sake of fucking them over, or for money.

Like that's it. So I am fully against prisons. But Joe Bix needs to be where he's at right now. I am. And it is weird to like Like really reflect on There are so many people who are in prisons who don't get to Make multiple 15 minute calls to appear on Info Wars and complain in fundraise who can't afford ten fucking cents, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're forced to work without paying yeah yeah I mean we have a fucked up system yeah prison conditions are bad yep and uh Joe talks about that a little great well right now I'm at the DC jail uh what a lot of people call the DC Goolog this the one spot that had a you know uh what we're treating prisoners for at one point uh oh and said when he was there that he would wake up and he literally covered and roaches eating his skin. Yeah, that's how it was in the building where they first originally had people now were in what's called the CTF and it's a lot nicer.

It's not as bad but the food is horrible. Like, you can't eat the food here. So look, here's the thing, they don't want to make these conditions better. No, they just don't want to be in them themselves. They don't want to experience this. Like going to a place where there are roaches and bad food, it doesn't make Joe Biggs or Alex want to change the system. And they just want to leave it.

No, it should be somebody else being covered in this. As soon as they're, it's behind them or it's not exploitable for their use, like complaining that January 6th people are in a bad prison. Yeah, where there's bad food Like that is all that matters. They will move on after that to you know, whatever instead of gaining insight and empathy into like no one should have to deal with this. Yes This is not fair to humans. Yeah, I've been in a cell for less than 24 hours. And even then, I was like, got it. Nailed it.

I know exactly what it is. I don't want to be a part of here. And I know why, and I know how to make sure it doesn't happen again. My experience was slightly different. When I had DUI when I was much younger, my experience was quite good. Really? Wow, man.

I don't know. I was like super, super polite to the cop and everything. And I was in a cell by myself and he gave me like an extra blanket and pillow. Oh, so like, I don't know. It wasn't because of any like that is the guy Whistland on the street spinning and sticking. Hey, everybody is on your local neighborhood.

Yeah, it wasn't because of any like affluence that I had or like like my dad's a powerful judge or something. You just caught the right guy. Yeah, he was a nice guy and I was nice to him. And he did say as much like, you know, I rarely get to arrest people who are as nice as you. Yeah. And I'm sorry we had to do this.

Totally, yeah. I get it. But so like my view of it is biased. Yeah. And maybe that is part of why I have like some lingering like feeling of affinity for cops. And the, yeah, my wife got beat up twice and has PTSD for, yeah, yeah.

It's totally different. Like personal experience. She has a terrible teeth and a bad back for the rest of her life. So yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of the people that I worked, like when I worked at some gas stations, you know, the cops that would be there, the rent of cops, they were pretty cool too. So that kind of, you know, you know, you know, you know, small town, Missouri.

That's small. Wow. College town column. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. I mean, you're more like, it's like the Kayle Canaine bit, you know, like if you live a life-color-froign,, you're interact with a lot of cops and eventually you'll find one who's like, oh, I could have I could work at Panera Bread,

but being a cop is five dollars more an hour. So I'll just go do that. And it's just like a totally regular guy. Mm-hmm. Just like, hey, how you guys doing? Yeah, there's a dead body upstairs. No big deal. Yeah. You guys party in? Yeah. Somebody bought a couch. No in. Yeah, that's the unfortunate thing. Yeah. Um, and it is so weird that like just that, uh, you know, that personal thing of like, yeah, you're like the your rolodex, whether or not you bring up, you know, your wife's experience, sure, sure, like directly in your mind, they're still like everything is negative. All of this is negative. Sure. Whereas mine is mostly negative from a policy and intellectual position, but there is still like, hey, it was a positive interaction.

Like I could have been a real dick to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's weird. No, it is fascinating because it is one of those like, it's more about the power and people who abuse power. True. It's not about the power and people who abuse power. True. It's not about being a cop. It's about the type of power that attracts the type of person

who wants to exploit that power. Yeah, and that's the problem. There are many things in society that would work better if people had jobs that were similar to what the police are. Yeah. Not exploiting the power. Yeah, you know, that's a really good point. Yeah, I mean, that guy would not have beat the shit out of my wife.

No. If he was a grocery bagger, or if he had just a regular, like, just work nine to five doing anything other than being a cop. Yeah. But do you know what that guy wants? That guy wants the power to hurt people. And then- And that's why he became a cop.

Right, but then the flip side of that coin is the guy who arrested me also would have never beat up your wife. Yeah, I never would have beat up my wife. But he was the guy wearing a uniform. Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, nothing that happens in this interview is in any way as interesting. Is that conversation we just have? Possibly. So a lot of people have been talking some shit about Joe. Yeah, they are saying that he cried at trial. No. And he wants to clear the record up. Of course. He's a man. Well, I saw the left make fun of you that you cried when they said 17 years, but I mean, obviously you're not 17 years and you've been given this evil tyranny and can't

see your daughter. I would cry too. They are sick evil people. Well, actually, no. Well, the 17 years came after the fact that I cried. I cried when I brought up my daughter. The tears that I had were from my daughter and my daughter alone, not anything that the judge had to say, the prosecution.

Um, after I spoke and I, you know, I, I got an emotional about my daughter. I sat down and that's when the judge read the 17 years. I was an even spun that that you cried after the Senate. You cried for your daughter. Yeah, I cried for my daughter. That was it. There was no anybody in that courtroom. I got letters today and it was emotional to hear you talk about your daughter. But I had nothing to do with the sin and thing. I sat there and took out like a man. I looked at him and do whatever I had to do. You know, when I walked out of there with my head held high, I feel so bad

for his daughter, but I don't feel bad for him based on that. Yeah. You knew you had a daughter when you went to the Capitol and did what you did. Yeah. You knew that you had a daughter when you were engaging in these group chats and all this stuff. You knew the risk you were taking. You didn't care enough about your connection with your daughter to stop doing that shit, right? I mean, like, that's the only thing that you can come away from it with. You made a choice. That's coward.

You know, that's what we're describing here is the cowardice of that. Like, again, if he was like, hey, I did this because I thought I could raise my daughter as a fucking aristocrat in Trump's, yeah, it is a duke. That's what I was doing. I was trying to give her the best possible life and I lost. It's delusional, but it would make sense. It would make sense from A to B to C. Exactly. And you'd be like, yep, that's why you did it. I understand, but you have the consequences for losing. Yeah. And if you would one, she would be a du Duke so you you rolled them bones and you lost I But the

You know that's on Duke a Viral Duke Duke Duke Duke Duke of Earl. Yeah, you let's take a walk through my So, uh, I just am troubled by, like, bringing this up. I know it's something that's important to his life. And what have you, but I have no pity for him based on his inability to be a father to this daughter because he wasn't already. Like, you were, like, even if you hadn't done January 6th, you were part of a fucking street gang. I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you this.

You were a leader a fucking street gang. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna tell you this. You were a leader of a street gang. Generally speaking, children who have fathers that engage in a large amount of political violence or kind of indiscriminately. Right. Are usually happier to grow up without that father. And like the political violence is targeted at LGBTQ folks

and like it's bigotry targeted political violence. Like I can't imagine it being like a great stable place. He should be crying because finally his daughter is gonna grow up in a better environment. I just, I don't know. I, it's the one thing that I just keep coming back to or I kept coming back to and I was thinking about this was like, you made the choice to go asshole. Like, what did, what did you think? You made the choice to have a kid. Well,

sure, you know, what you didn't. Life circumstances are what they are. And like, it's not, she's, I saw a picture on his go, go fund me or whatever. And she's not like a baby. So like she can probably understand daddy's going to jail. Yeah, like she's old enough to understand that. And it's just like, man, you should have grown up and gotten out of this street gang phase. Yeah, because you got a kid.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, five years from now, she'll be visiting him in prison or whatever. Or not. Or not. Exactly. But that's what I'm saying. And it's going to be like the realization of, I wish I had a dad.

I don't wish I had you as my dad. You know, like that's what she's going to find out. Yep. Yep. So anyway, one thing that Alex and Joe have in common, is a lawyer. You know, a lot of listeners have asked me, where is Stuart Rokes been trying to get him for a year?

Please, but in Joe. Where's Joe Biggs? I have the same lawyers, Joe Biggs. And the calculus was, it'll make the judge mad if you're on here attacking him and That's why And then listeners are like, why aren't you talking about it? Well, I've been trying since he got sentenced Get him on to just two days. He's here and you can say, well, just don't listen to the lawyers I mean, it's his lawyer and I'm on two just two days he's here. And you just say, well, just don't listen to the lawyers.

I mean, it's his lawyer in Northern Ireland. And I get Norm's point. Joe was on like a month ago. I, we heard, we talked about it, we covered it. Yep. Well, I don't know, I was going on with this being precious about Norm's advice. Norm probably told Alex not to have those,

those little impromptu performances outside the courthouse too, didn't stop him. The number of Norm probably told Alex not to have those, those little impromptu performances outside the courthouse too, didn't stop him. The number of numbers. Norm probably told himself not to fall asleep in court totally. And he still did. Yep. The number of things that Norm Patis has said that no one has paid attention to is, is,

I mean, the answer. The answer. Ah, wow, I think people did pay attention to that one. Not enough. Not enough. Yeah. That's a really good point. Not enough. Yeah, should be a lot more attention paid to that. Maybe the only time I'm going to say that really bad standup should get more attention. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, talk about back to back losses of big owls. Oh boy. You really should be able to get your money back if your lawyer was norin Patis. Well, actually, in a clip, I'll just play this right now because Alex says he hasn't paid him.

But I want to thank everybody that's gone to defendjones.com. Info wars and stabilize. The bankruptcy looks like it's going through everything until the court was true. Everything is sub as a lie. You've seen all that. We don't have $10 million versus $400 million. And I've got a year of legal bills built up that I've gotten really good crop of new lawyers last year.

They haven't been paid yet. And that's because the judge got lied to and told that I had all this money so the judge said, we can pay his legal bills. And now the judge is like, wait, did that any money? But I still have the old bill. That's about to all get fixed. The judge is signaled where he now realizes judges like waiting to have any money, but I still have the old bill. That's about to all get fixed. The judge is signaled where he now realizes he was lied to, but for now, I need to pay that million dollars.

That's a lot of money. Not really in today's numbers, folks with inflation. Trump has spent 67 million this year on lawyers with hundreds of lawsuits and all the rest of it and all the criminal charges. Great. Trump needs support. Well, I don't need $67 million. I need a million dollars.

Or we go off the air. Cause if they shut me down, I can't be here. Infowarstore.com, funds, free speech systems, great products you need. But defendjones.com is where you can make straight donations. So you owe your lawyers a million dollars. And if you don't pay them, you go off the air. This is strange, that doesn't make sense.

But I do like the idea that he hasn't paid norm. Yeah. But he also said that he has new lawyers that he hasn't paid. And norm is a legacy lawyer. So maybe norm and barns have been paid and then everybody else hasn't. Yeah, yeah. I would say that no offense to lawyers,

but there's no thing in the law or that a lawyer could do that would ever be worth $67 million. I think if they saved your life, I don't have that money to spend. I got a DNR, buddy. I can't be in that kind of debt. Let's imagine that you did have like a billion dollars and you were going to be executed for a crime that you committed and the lawyers are able to get

you off scot free sure sure that 67 million is worth it then I would pay them 67 million but my life is not worth 67 million dollars I'm just trying to think of like I know I know I know I understand I understand I understand take I understand, I understand. Take it back. Take it back. Take it back. Not execution. All right.

Now you're just gonna live in prison for the rest of your life. Ooh, that might be worth $67 million. I'm, if I could like, not be beat up and, you know, sexually abuse the stuff. There is a certain part of me that would be, yeah, I get where you're coming from with prison. I mean, I saw, like, when I was doing the,

getting that Anders Brevick episode together, I remember that he complained that he didn't have enough games on his, like, PlayStation. Yeah, he's, he's got a pretty good sort of episode like, I mean, if it was something like that, I barely leave the house anyway. I mean, the problem, I could podcast from jail.

The problem is, Joe Pigs is calling into a radio show. I can podcast. I think to myself, oh, but they limit radio show I can podcast I think to myself Oh, but they limit your choices and then I think to myself I would prefer some of my choices be limited sometimes you get But you go to the store it's like too many choices sometimes just the amount of energy that it's bet that I spend just Choosing things yeah, if I got rid of that choice then I would have more energy saved up to do other things Yeah, but at the same time being forced into that position and trapped and maybe the one choice isn't something you like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the other problem. Yeah. But, yeah, 67 million to not live in prison for the rest of your life is probably worth it. That's probably worth it. That's a good point. If you have it.

If you got it, yeah. I wouldn't borrow it. So you're not getting out of that debt. So we got a double back here for a second. Alex was saying that people are asking why isn't Joe on? And you know why? And I don't think people are. I don't think people care, except for one person.

I think this is all about this. Okay, but I just love the other patriots that are out there. They're like armchair quarterback. Why didn't Alex Jones, and it's on so many soldiers. Why didn't Alex Jones have an im on? Why he doesn't care about those people? One former talk show host that worked here,

who just kept saying I'm a censoring when I wasn't. I was really upset that he was lying and saying I wasn't sure. And I barely even watched his show. I'm like, why are you saying that? I was like, oh, he don't care about his crew. He's sent there. I didn't send Joe Biggs there.

Joe Biggs hadn't worked here for years. I didn't send anybody into the damn capital. But Joe didn't do anything in the capital. So the idea that I'm sending people and I'm doing this and I'm all this crap, it's ridiculous. All right. So you're mad at David Knight? I was gonna say it's gotta be David Knight. Yeah. It's ridiculous. All right, so you're mad at David Knight? I was gonna say, it's gotta be David Knight. Yeah.

It's gotta be David Knight. Yeah. So David Knight is the reason that we're talking to Joe Biggs right now. I guess. Woof. I mean, it's a hot interview though. Ha ha ha.

Everybody was looking to get Biggs. Whew. No, they were. Oh boy. Oh boy. Yeah. So you may notice he hasn't been there. And that's because the call time and so Alex is killing some time until Joe can call back again.

Yeah. And so he does to lie about evidence some more. But is there a video you're saying we go into the Capitol or video you saying you or text message you saying you orchestrated it? No, that's right. Yeah. There's none of that whatsoever. They have a video of me going, oh my god, I can't believe everybody just stormed the Capitol. There's even a that none of that whatsoever they have a video of me going oh my god i can't believe everybody just stormed the capital uh... there's even a video of me who i'm walking and i'm filming it uh... and i'm going on my god we've just walked over the barriers we've just

walked over the bear is not we've just taken them down and we've just left them we've just walked over because someone else had knocked them down we've just walked over the barriers oh my god i can't believe this people storming the capital joe actually said. We've just walked over the barriers. Oh my God, I can't believe this. People are storming the Capitol. Joe actually said, quote, we've just taken the Capitol. Not that people were entering the Capitol and he was watching, but that he had. He later filmed himself saying, quote, so we just storm the fucking Capitol, took the mother fucking place back. That was so much fun. January 6th will be a day in infamy. And their group chat and Rika Tariw even said,

quote, make no mistake, we did this. Joe can fuck right off with this. Whoa is me victim shit. I have no, no pity for this. You know, when they, when they brought up the secret service, you know, and how RFK didn't have any or whatever. And it's like, that's fine. You know, I don't care. But the point about secret service is that you, you know, I don't care. But the point about secret service is that you can't stop, they can't stop an assassination. They can stop an assassination from somebody

who wants to get away with it, right? Somebody who's just like going to kill you and does not give a fuck about if they live or die at the end of it can still walk up to the secret service and shoot somebody. Like they're not for that. Yeah, yeah, just somebody who is out to it. They expect to die going in.

Like Shinzo Abe, that assassination of just like, I'm gonna walk up, you're not gonna stop that with Secret Service. Yeah, yeah. And the same thing is the case with, like this whole, this whole plan they have of taking the capital of like, if you wanna try and get away with it,

that's when you're gonna get in real trouble because you have to have a complicated oceans 11 plan that's gonna have steps that people are gonna be able to find their way back through. Yeah, it should be victory or death. Exactly. Yeah, it's victory or death. If you are in the realm of overthrowing the government or trying to impose your will upon overturning an election, you need to die or win. Yes. Because if you don't, it's kind of sad. It's sad. Yeah. It indicates that you weren't really all that committed.

And your plan wasn't really all that good. No. It worked to a point. Someone did shit on a desk. That's definitely true. So hey, you know, small victories. Yeah. That's what we all got to celebrate.

More or less bright spots. Yeah. So we have one more clip here. Because I don't really care. Joe is kind of tridding water a bit. And just like give me money sort of. But we have one more clip here because I don't really care. Joe is kind of trading water a bit and just like give me money. Yeah, sort of. But we have one more clip after he leaves. All right, here's what I'm going to do. I want to take the ADL the wood should because it's been the top trending thing for a few days. People really get it now and I've got a big stack

here that ties into the UN their whole operation. And I've got all this other news to some really loaded for bear. I'm going to come back tomorrow. Yeah, I'm going to get tomorrow. Yeah. I'm loaded for bear. I'm out. It's all too big. Thing is kind of annoying. Oh, shit. Norm is the worst lawyer. Yeah. It's hard to imagine worse. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, I genuinely don't know if he is a good or bad lawyer lawyer.

I wouldn't know how to judge the quality. Like for me, it would be like, oh, his briefs are really well written. You know, like I don't know. I imagine they're not. I imagine they're not too. I think, yeah, because this circumstance, you know, gives you the, you know,

there's so many different skills involved in lowering. And at the same time, it's such a niche position for these lawyers to be in. So I would say that Renal appears to be a better attorney to me. Yeah. And in terms of like his ability to speak and like I hated a lot of the things he was saying,

but he was at least kind of talking to the jury, and all of that. Would you talk to me? Would you talk to me? I did not like that. But, like, nor when he was making his arguments, like closing and opening arguments and stuff, he was stammering, and he was non-committal to things,

and it was not good. It felt bad as if it was like, I'm not, I, I, it would never have been persuasive. Like he learned learning from my cousin Vinnie. It feels like that. It feels like he's waiting in the end for someone to be like, aha, now the tires don't come on the skylark. Right, and instead it went the other way. It went out to test revealing all his stuff. But that was rain all.

That's the thing that makes me resist giving him too many compliments because that was an unforced error. Oh, that was maybe the biggest unforced error that you could possibly have yeah revealing all the crimes Bad idea bad move But as far as results go I don't think there's ever been a back-to-back result Quite as bad tough. I don't who's who's who has lost that much money? Judgment again. Well actually that's not fair because he was, oh, wait, no, the Connecticut one was the bigger of that. So yeah, that's no. Yeah.

We can put norm down for negative a billion dollars, at least, at least. And seditious conspiracy conviction. Couple of them, right? Yeah, I think so. I think he was the lawyer for a couple of the problems, but at least Joe Biggs. Let's keep it in the info. At the very least Joe bicks. Yeah. Can't wait to see what he does next. Yeah, I don't mean he doesn't even have the benefit of being like an evil trial or you know, like Steven Donziger winning the oil case, you know, 11 billion dollars, some insane amount of money, but then they're evil so they can just go like hire a judge and

then get him been fucking house arrest That's how you be evil or Randaza is like a fairly evil seeming lawyer totally and I think norm is a non-committal evil. That's what I think he is. I think he's a just he's dumb and he's bad Yeah, he's just bad at everything. Well, you know, you could never really expect too much from him having never seen him practice law when he sat next to Alex drunkenly screaming about one and Chris Maddie's head on a pike.

Yeah, that one was tough. The fact that he was there and allowed himself to like, be a part of it and not just like walk out or something, it shows something. Yeah, it's not a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, great job. Yep. We'll be back Jordan for another episode, but until then we have a website. Uh, indeed we do. It's KnowledgeFight.com. Yep.

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