Knowledge Fight - #861: October 18, 2023

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan deal with an episode of Alex's show in three acts: one part terrible, one part farce, and one part DMT fantasies about precognitive 100 ft. tall mantis beings that want to break your will.

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Because I was just, I'm out of survivor. I'm out of the challenge. It is what it is. Yeah. Those are the only options. Exactly. Not the way the pipe begins. Not true.

I realized at a certain point, I have no idea what happens on Big Brother. I have thought that so many times. Every time I hear a big brother, I'm like, it's a spy show, right? I swear to God. I remember the beginning of it, like way back, you know, 20 years ago or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I got a sense that it was just people lived in a house and there was a bunch of cameras on them. Right. And then that was it. And then maybe they decided to kick people out periodically if they were assholes. Sure, sure, sure, sure. I didn't know what went on. It's they decided to kick people out periodically if they were asshole sure sure sure sure

I didn't know what went on. It's all decided to check it out sure watch a little bit what goes on I mean it's just a challenge show basically. They they but the structure of it is so fucking maddening like I don't understand There's all kinds of terminology like I'm the head of the house so I get the big bedroom. Oh, no I watch like three episodes of it and I said I'm the big bedroom. Oh, no. I don't even know what the, oh, okay. I watched like three episodes of it and I said, I'm out. I can't handle this. All right.

But, so I was looking for something else to watch. And I saw something called survive the raft. And I thought this is an interesting idea. I want, I don't want to know what show you're talking about. I want to, I want to watch the show survive the raft that I am writing in my head right now. I will say that it's higher concept than it turns out being. Okay. So the idea is that there was like this experiment in the 70s where this guy named Santiago something. Okay, I love a backstory. He decided that he was going to get people together from all different countries

and different beliefs. And they were gonna go on a fucking... The Olympics of Rafting. Well, and then just, no, nobody gets kicked off just to see, it's social experiment to see if they could get along. Like, we are the world of the rap, but also with the pressure of being on a raft. You gotta survive on that raft, right? I like it. I like the raft. There was that, okay.

There was this experiment that happened in the 70s. Yeah. And so the idea was they're going to recreate this social experiment in the present day with people who have vastly different beliefs and opinions and all of this stuff. What happens when people stop? Right. It's sort of a real world thing, but it had such a promise of actual like confrontation of beliefs inside. And then it just turned out to be a shitty

survivor. Like they ended up doing weird competitions to like bank money for their stuff. And then at the beginning, there was such a sense that their differences were going to be a problem. Yeah. You know, like there was a guy who in his testimonial interviews was complaining about how like People can't say anything anymore cancel culture. Yeah Not be that bad He turned out like he kind of just shut up a lot We abide to his business. It's kind of an asshole periodically, but not as bad as you'd think and other people's like they're

Like there's one lady who's like, I'm a Karen, I watch Fox News, all this stuff. She was fine. Yeah, she didn't get into fights with people. No, it was fine. None of their differences mattered. No, I think a lot of people would be shocked to discover that, you know,

as much as we describe ourselves as one thing when we're like looking at ourselves through the winds of a camera, when we're in social groups, we're completely, you know, generally speaking everybody's just like, I wanna have a good time in the social group. Yeah, I guess so. Why would I wanna fight somebody now?

We're on a raft. Because that's the premise of a fucking TV show. Well, but we're on a raft. Now it's not the time for fighting about these. The only tension that even existed throughout any of the show was that there was one lady who was on it who was a vegan and so she didn't want people fishing. Okay. But it just turned into her kind of like sulking a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody is like, well, we're gonna eat fish. And they like went out of their way to find mushrooms

when they go foraging. Totally. And so I was like, all right, everybody's fine. Hey, let's just remember. She's a vegetable. She doesn't eat fish, so yeah. Yeah, that's great. The whole show disaster.

I mean, what's that again? If you're making a show designed around creating conflict, right, you have to remember to create that conflict. You can't like rely on the raft and just different political opinions to do the work for you. I think they thought they were with the money. Right, right, right. And then there was a structure where like each episode,

they'd have a new person come in that could be adopted into their raft, but they'd have to kick somebody else out in order to do it. So there was this tension of like, how do you cry over time? Where is this happening? On a raft. But like, I'm sorry, I'm unable to not have like hook fin

and they're on the whole mace. What's going on? It's just off the shore of like some island. Oh, okay, so they're not No, it's it's even an island that was used in a past season of survivor I remember with what what island it was, but I Yeah, no My mind in my mind if you're on the see this is what I wanted to show it my head is because the raft implies that you are moving

It might have been moving a little. It didn't seem like much. Right. I think you're thinking of a barge. I wouldn't mind a barge. I wouldn't mind a barge. Survive the barge. I'd watch that.

Anyway, what's your bright spot? I think it speaks to where we both are in our mental state that I'm also on reality TV. It's the moon. No, it's the amazing race. Oh, I've caught up with this season. Oh yeah. Also, yeah.

Yeah, I had some chores to do and so I put it on in the background. I'm, I'm, you know, I'll tell you this. They, when you see a show that's gone for 40 years or whatever, you go, ah, there's no way, but that's because they just do it right. You know, they just do it right. It's a simple formula. Maybe you make a little change here there, but you just don't fuck, don't get in the way of the wacky races. Yeah.

You know, that's what we all watched amazing races in some form or another. Mm-hmm. cartoons did it fairly, you know what before we were they had people running across this country and people would show up in their town and be like hey he's walking by you know that's it like it's there and it's a fun thing too that you even hear contested say of like I traveled vicariously through the show to know so you get to see all these places and the world through their eyes I love it I love it I was actually going to text you when I was watching it that I was like, I'm checking out the amazing race.

I forgot how much I missed this goofy bullshit. It's so dumb. Yeah, it is really dumb. There's something to be said for like just pulp, like just junk food as TV. Absolutely. Yeah. There is nothing that I need to bring to the amazing race.

The amazing race brings it all to me. Yeah. Yep. I had some other thought. I forgot what it is. But, oh, I mean, I guess with a survive the raft, that could be what that would be. Just junk food TV.

But the high concept of it promised to be something so much more than it infuriates me. Yeah, I understand. It's tough to pull it off because it's like a novelty ketchup or something like that. It's like, come on man, ketchup is ketchup for a reason. You know everybody has it for a reason.

You can't make it so much better that you're replacing regular ketchup. Ketchup is ketchup. Yeah. We got an SJW and a guy who's worried about cancel culture and two racists on a boat. What's gonna happen? What's going on?

Don't even pitch it that way. Nothing's gonna happen. You know that. Come on. They're all gonna be on a boat. That's it. That's what's gonna happen. They're gonna be those people and they're gonna be like,

ah, how you doing? And that's it. They're on a boat. Yeah. So I wish I was on a boat. Yeah. Cause today we have an episode to go over Jordan. Oh God, damn it.

And we're gonna be talking about Alex's October 18th episode. Ooh, present day. Yeah. I took it. Feel like you kind of have to. Yeah. So here's the syllabus. What's going to happen on this episode? Terrible shit.

Sure. It's beginning. Just awful. Great. Farse in the middle. We're going to watch Clue? No. Again, I wish.

I wish to. That would be great. Just parody, self- parody, in the middle. And then at the end, complete bullshit nonsense. All right, so that's kind of the path we have. It's gonna not be pleasant, obviously, at the beginning. There is a lot of shit that I would, honestly, everything being equal,

I would prefer not to talk about, but it's thrust into our laps, and so we must. Here we are. But there is that dessert of complete bullshit Okay, and then I'll let's close it in the first fairly amusing and some level But before we get down to business on this episode Jordan, let's say hello to some Wanks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first the jug a lobalist. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. You are now a policywank.

I'm a policywank. Thank you very much. How the fuck did it take this long? I don't know. That's, that's how it's. Yep. That's good work. Filthy flying monkey who evolved out of a witch's butt.

Thank you so much. You are now a policywank. I'm a policywank. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Amanda. Hey, your husband wants to remind you that it's the InfoWars sign.

Thank you so much. You are now a policywank. I'm a policywank. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, I named my pet snail hot damn thears sign. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next I named my pet snail hot Dan the mustard man. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. That's probably good because I imagine snails have about the lifespan of the year of the mustard. Yeah, that sounds right. Next I've been a policy wonk for over a year and now it feels awkward to ask for a shout out. Thank you so much, you're an owl policy

wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I know next. Oh, we had a technocrat. Oh, we're already there. Oh boy. So thank you so much to drunken really a You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy won't Don't give up and tell you brilliant someone someone Suddenly sent me a book in a poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much. I think that is, I think that's actually a video game reference. I think that's like Rihla or maybe it's a Dungeons and Dragons reference. Yeah. I thought it was the Cthulhu. Oh, is it? Yeah. Okay.

All right. It was City in really A. Yes, he's thatulhu. Oh, is it? Yeah. Okay. Oh, right. Cthulhu is a city in really A. Yes, he's that life-sleeping. Oh, shit. I thought they, I couldn't remember the, I thought that was a different preamble to the email with that one.

Oh, it might be, I thought it might be the, the, the, the, the, no, it sounds right. No, it sounds right. No, it's so close. Yeah, it sounds right, though. Nope. It, it, it, it, it is the really A. It is a sunken city in the South Pacific and the prison of the Antideca Thulu. Ah. Nope, it is the Rhaile, it is a Sunken City in the South Pacific and the Prison of the Antideca Thulu. Ah, so yep. Yep, but all that Lovecrafting stuff is so like Inspirer- Oh, sure. of all the dungeon the dragon's shit and all this fucking nonsense that

you nerds like. Don't ask me. Don't ask me. I didn't do anything. Fair enough. Fair enough. But also, we don't think about that enough like how you know, Cthulhu lies sleeping maybe got drunk. You know, maybe he's maybe passed out drunk. I mean, I I think that one of the problems that he left out, he left out that El Cabong is the reason that Cthulhu sleeps for so long. El Cabong is the only thing that can counter the terror of the elder gods. The great old ones.

Absolutely. His mind is clear. You know, he can't be affected by Cthulhu's mind powers. He is Elkabong. He has one goal in life. He's purity of thought and of mine. Yeah. Made animators. Made guitar based the anime. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, so whatever. Stop wasting time. Okay. Okay, fine.

Obviously, there was the explosion at the hospital in Gaza, which is the chief focus of the beginning of this. Great. And Alex is coverage of it is surprisingly bad. Yeah. And that's not to say that it's surprising that it is bad. No, it's bad in a surprising way. Yep. Gotcha.

I call it like I see it. And I don't like agreeing with Biden as he lies almost all the time. But I agree with him that I don't think Israel bombed that hospital in Gaza Strip. In fact, the hospital was not bombed. We've seen riots and protests around the world on the line that it was hit by an Israeli missile or bomb

and it turns out that the parking lot was hit by a missile. And we have all this footage from independent news stations showing Hamas firing a bunch of missiles from a graveyard. the station's showing a bunch of missiles from a graveyard. A couple hundred yards away. And one of the missiles fails and falls on the parking lot. And it's confirmed that the hospital

was not hit. Some of the windows got blown out. So a giant lie. But remember the mainstream media all picked it up and went with it. before the fire is reeven out. Here's a fun exercise. Imagine if someone blew up a bomb in the parking lot of info wars.

You think Alex would say, ah, it's just the parking lot. It's the parking. I think he probably wouldn't. Wow. I mean, he's going to have a struggle parking, but beyond that, he's fine. As of the recording of this episode, I don't know exactly what happened as it relates to the explosion at the Oli-Holly Baptist Hospital and neither does Alex. He's pretending that he's seen all this evidence visually seeing an errant rocket

being launched from this graveyard near the hospital, but he absolutely has not. He's heard that claim being made and he's repeating it because it fits his preferred storyline. If there were actually publicly available video that demonstrated this fully, it would be a lot less of an open question as to what really happened. Yeah. In the very volatile information climate that Elon Musk has made worse since taking over Twitter, it's almost impossible to vet truth from fiction, and tons of fake video reporting to be the rockets being launched

have been circulating and traveling widely before they're debunked, by which point the damage is already done in confusion spreads. Like wildfire. To make matters worse, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, Michael Herzog, posted and then deleted a post on Twitter containing a video purporting to be of the rockets being launched. It was deleted after Eric Toller of the New York Times pointed out that there were issues with the timestamp of the footage, and it didn't match up with when the explosion would have occurred. That's not good.

None of this is to say that it's a definite that Israeli did it or if it was the fault of a group like Hamas. The popular group to point the finger at from what I'm reading is Islamic Shahad who have said that they didn't do it. Terrorist groups generally like to take responsibility for their terrorist acts, but when it's killing tons of people at a hospital, that's not really going to be their play, so I don't know what to make of any statements that anybody is making. The bottom line is that over 400 people were killed, and it's a profound human tragedy regardless of what the circumstances are. I do not know exactly who's responsible for this particular incident, but we do know that Israel has been constantly bombing civilian areas in Gaza, even areas that they claimed would be safe if Palestinians

fled to them. The death toll is hard to gauge at this point, but it will undoubtedly be in the thousands. Between the bombs and the people starving with no food or water, trapped in a war zone, the picture is very bleak for civilians in this circumstance. To the extent that the explosion happened in a parking lot, it was a courtyard of the hospital where there were parking spaces. An explosion around a bunch of cars isn't necessarily a lesser worry since those things have explosive gas in them.

Also, it's important to understand that people in Gaza are displaced, and many are seeking shelter wherever they can find places that appear to be safe. The Dean of St. George's College in Jerusalem told the BBC that there were 1,000 people sheltering in the courtyard when the explosions happened. Pointing to limited structural damage to the buildings and the limited number of pictures Alex has seen on social media means nothing in terms of the scale of this human tragedy and he's playing fucking games and it is unacceptable. Yeah. What do you expect? It didn't happen. It was a parking lot. I don't know. Man. Surprising. I was expecting, I was expecting false flag. I was expecting, you know, and I mean,

I get false flag kind of sort of get there. I kind of get there. But I really wasn't expecting just like, eh, it was a fucking parking lot. Who cares? That I was not expecting. He's later going to say that the deaths are fake too. So, okay, well, there we go. Yeah.

That I expect that I expect. Yeah, he's real bad today. So, he also doesn't like the idea that there are protests that are happening. So here's that. White House got surrounded. The barriers got knocked down. Police got attacked. But it's not being called the greatest attacks in Spural Harbor, like they called January 6th. Huge demonstrations in Dallas, Texas. Huge demonstrations in Greece, riots in Greece, riots across Europe, all sorts of shootings and stabbing that get buried in the news.

Huge numbers of people, in some cases millions, head in the streets, different Arab countries and also in Persia, Iran. Instantly attacking the Israeli embassies around the world. And again, I'm calling like I see it. Israel stood down 110% 7 hours before any response. Attack helicopters by the hundreds were 5 to 10 minutes away. five attack helicopters and I've talked to military experts. They concluded that my novice assumption was corrected. Five loaded helicopters to take

it out. Those Hasbola fighters, Hamas, Hasbola back fighters. So I'm calling it like I see it. You know, Charlie Kirk did that too. A lot of people have. They're calling him any Semitic. I'm just it like I see it. You know Charlie Kirk did that too a lot of people have their calling him any Semitic. I I'm just gonna report What we believe is most accurate

It's clear Israel did not bomb that hospital. It's clear. Israel stood down. Let the attack happen So I like to saying I call it like I see it a lot on this episode like it's as new get her done. Yeah, yeah, very upsetting I did you be I don't think he does bet you, maybe I don't think he does either. No. I don't think he does. Actually, I think he does somewhat in as much as like, if you translate it to, I don't prepare. You know, I call it like I see it.

I share from the hip. Sure. I just say whatever's on the tip of my mind. Then it's kind of accurate. Maybe. They were protest at the White House, but they didn't storm the Capitol and no one's shit on Jim Jordan's desk or whoever's gonna end up being speaker.

Alex can calm down with this shit, because this is the game that he's playing. On the one hand, he wants to minimize the actions of him and his extremist buddies, because he knows that if we, as a society, take what they did and what they stand for seriously, they will be in jail very quickly. But the second thing he wants to do is paint any protest carried out by groups he doesn't like as some kind of terror. That's why groups of supporters of Palestinians are compared to January 6th for just protesting

here in the United States. Now granted, any attacks on Israeli embassies, they would not categorize in the same batch. There was somebody who was stabbed at the Chinese embassy, the Israeli embassy in China. And so like that's not the same batch. There was somebody who was stabbed at the Chinese embassy, the Israeli embassy in China. And so like that's not the same thing, but people gathering and like protesting for Palestinian rights. Right.

That's not, that's not, Alex would call that in and of itself terror. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that. I would recommend people don't do that. It's a bad idea. One, we've, believe me, people have protested and the past hasn't done it for Palestine up to this point. You're just getting yourself a giant target on your back. Terrible idea. So Alex, he needs to like get the heat off

himself and his bodies and also paint all alternative protest as terrorism. So like that with Palestinians, do I also cause Black Lives Matter protests riots constantly. If you're on the opposite side of Alex, you don't have free speech and protest rights in his eyes, but he knows that he can't say it that way without abandoning his branding about loving the Constitution. So this is the way that he gets around that.

There are some questions about the timeline of Israeli military response to various areas where citizens were under threat, but nothing that I've seen so far has convinced me of an actual stand down happening. What's key to understand is that this is Alex's new way of saying false flag. He's learned since Sandy Hook that if he goes on the full-on hoax manufactured event angle, he ends up getting himself in trouble. There's too many implications that comes from those narratives that he doesn't want to

deal with, which is why the stand-down accusation is perfect. You see him do this in situations where he previously would have had a lot more elaborate crisis actors or hoax-type narratives, like in the case of Parkland and the Uvalde shootings. Another reason this accusation works perfectly for Alex is that sometimes responses don't go as smoothly as people think they should, because of logistical issues and human error. Alex's storyline gives a nicely bundled explanation for all of that, which allows the audience to maintain their illusions about the infallibility of the system. This response only went bad because the globalists demanded it go bad.

Is a childish, painfully childish way to engage with complicated systems. As it relates to the events of October 7th, Israel hasn't spoken on the matter, but there are a bunch of factors that could explain some of the delayed response. To be fair, there was an immediate response, a fairly immediate response, but there were areas that didn't get cleared for hours after, and that's what Alex is trying to use to his advantage. One issue is that it was a national holiday in Israel, so there's a chance that manpower or response time could have been hindered by that.

In addition, Hamas set drones to disrupt Israeli military's communication channels, so there's a possibility that created a period where word was not able to be sent in an efficient manner. There's also the factor of underestimating the threat from Hamas and shifting their manpower to the West Bank. A retired Israeli major general told the New York Times, quote, the thinning of forces seemed reasonable because of the construction of the fence and the aura that created around it as if it were invincible that nothing would be able to pass it.

Another operational failure that the Times discusses is the quote, clustering of leaders from the Army's Gaza division in a single location along the border. Hamas was able to overtake this base, and then the ability to create a coordinated response to what was unfolding was severely impaired. The people tasked with being ready to make a counterattack had been killed, injured, or taken hostage,

and the Israeli military officials who were coming in to take over were coming in from other places and they weren't as prepared as they would have wanted to be. Things were posted on social media that depicted a major event immediately, but this was not at all well communicated through military channels because of the factors mentioned. So while it is true that there may have been air power stationed near minutes of flight away, the people who would have been able to utilize that correctly were incapacitated,

and the communications needed to convey the gravity of the situation were not at their full power. The extent to which each of these factors played a role in the intelligence and response failure is a matter for study and I'm sure we'll learn more about that in the coming months. However, for Alex, all of this is really fucking simple. It was a stand down. It needs to be for him to avoid the complexity of reality and keep his audience in their infantile Fear bubble that he profits off of it's just ridiculous. It's a disrespect to You know, the just the complexities of life honestly Yeah, yeah, man. This is this is off to a great start I told you there's a farce coming.

I'm doing great. This is going good. We're handling it. Well, I think I texted you about like, ah, this is not great, you know, and stuff. And part of the reason is a lot of this stuff is not really even becoming of a response. Yeah. I think that Alex saying 110% the Israeli government

had to stand down. You know, fuck you, man. Yeah. Like, you can't prove any of this. You can be like, it must have been, and that's your argument, great. Nothing. And then there was a bombing in a parking lot instead of a hospital. Like that's

just disrespectful and awful. Um, just, yeah, I can understand why it's just not good so far for you. Yeah. I think, I think one of the specific problems here is that unlike with, I mean, most, most, most wars, I suppose, as it's such a contained area and it's all controlled by one point of view, you know, it is, it is the Israeli ability. It is that like complete, complete power imbalance of like, you don't know what's going on inside there. And we can't. And we cannot because they won't allow independent voice or independent eyes in there.

And it's only made worse by the system's social media that we've relied on, you know, with the quick dissemination of information being completely rotten. Yeah, this is, this is one of the, I mean, maybe actually I would say this is the first time that I truly do not believe anyone. You know, I definitely don't know what I don't know. Exactly. And I, I'm not saying I necessarily don't believe anyone, but it's very hard to feel confident. It's not a lot of information that's available.

And not because I believe people are lying to me. Some people are lying to me. Of course, maliciously. And I believe some people are just doing the, telling what they know in the moment, which is not going to be correct, which is fine, that's how that happens. And there's some people with benign misunderstandings

or misinterpretations that have the same effect as malicious lying. And because Israel can completely control not the narrative coming from there, but our ability to actually see it, which for the first time since cameras have existed, really have we been this unable to see at all what's going on in such a major conflict, you know? I think that some of that is being pushed back

on, I do see international reports and stuff of people who are embedded there. Sure. You know, it's limited certainly, but it is, there is a view. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, but it is, there is a view. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, but it's patchy. It's tough. The asymmetric nature of this is so fucking crazy.

It's tough to wrestle with. Yeah, yeah. So here's something a little off topic that's a little lighter. Okay. Now let's expand on why I said the Harvard Mafia. You can talk about who runs the world. Black rock, the Chai comms, all the different organizations and groups. Rothschilds, when you pull back and you go look at Harvard, it's the big leagues. And it's people that are put to the process of the political science department and the legal department and other systems of Harvard that make it up.

And that's why the Chinese dictator, Xi Jinping, sends his daughter to Harvard. Now, that's a secret you're not supposed to know. And the word is, she's recently been pulled out of Harvard and sent back to China. What's that tell you? Does the same people that run Harvard help set up China and Mao Zedong and the rest of it? Help set up China. By the way, it's not full stuff.

You know, this daughter under another name goes to Harvard. I got that from high level feds. I later confirmed it with some other feds that I was recently talking to Laura on my little secret mission that will not be revealed for a few weeks. Go fuck yourself. So Alex didn't get this information from high level feds. Steve Pachanik told him about it. I remember that happening on air.

Yeah, I remember that. It's so full of shit. There have been so many articles about G's daughter going to Harvard. It's not a secret at all. Ooh, but what about this news that she was pulled out of classes recently? I'm interested. Ooh, would it surprise Alex to learn

that you graduated from Harvard in 2014? I was a decade ago. It would take me to learn that a great deal. I am very surprised, sir. Almost a decade. Wait, does he have a different daughter Does he have an even more? He has one daughter even more and Harvard under a different name daughter now

Alex's bullshit charade that he pulls it really only works if you imagine that he has access to some kind of Information that you don't which is why he makes up all these high-level sources and lies about the wildly Discredited people that he has on the show to inflate their status sources and lies about the wildly discredited people that he has on the show to inflate their status. That's why he claims to have gotten so much information from prophetic dreams and downloads from God. You can't know what he knows if it's coming from a divine source, so you have to just take his word for it. If it's coming from these high-level feds, you don't have access to those high-level feds. I don't. You gotta listen to Alex, he's the one who's telling you this deep information, like that She's daughter is being pulled out of classes 10 years after she graduated. That's so funny. That's

Ridiculous. That's very funny that she's being pulled out of class. I just heard she's pulled out of classes It's about as fun as it gets for somebody is that way to be interesting out That is the version of that like heist movie thing where the guy's like, hey, you uh, you worked with Fred Johnson, did you? And you're like, no, Fred Johnson's dead, so there's six months, you know, like that, the, that old thing. But instead, he's like, hell yeah, I love Fred Johnson. And the guy's like, ha, ha, I caught you, he's been dead.

Fred Johnson's still alive! Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I am Fred Johnson! His death will stand down. Exactlyly. I am Fred Johnson. His death was a stand-down. Exactly. It's all full-spark. Oh, fine. Whatever, bed.

So this is the only real card that Alex can play to impress the audience. This illusion that he knows stuff that they don't or can't. It's a complete fraud and his secret mission is just another vacation. Maybe he called Pachanic while he was on his trip, but you can bet that vacation will never materialize into anything meaningful Just like his trip to find Zuckerberg's underground bases Conveniently located very near a luxury spa. Yeah, that does help It does help whenever those things are conveniently located next to each other fucking prick

Anyway, we get to some petty political drama here, because we are in the middle. We're a little bit further along as we're recording this, but at this point, we're in the middle of the speakership. Sure, sure, sure. And so Jim Jordan is about to have his second vote. Great to see you. Good dude. Yeah. Good dude. Great. It appears on the final words coming in. few minutes that Jim Jordan's second round of trying to be elected House Speaker has failed their telling the final votes that it looks like he has not habit. She spans reporting. He does not habit People say well, why do we do this? Why do we?

Uncheese Chem McCarthy Because we're not rolling over anymore. We're fighting back and we're taking control of this country And in the Democrats installed somebody now who's taking help Republican blue bloods. Then we'll know who the bad guys are. We're unmasking them. Let's go to the live feed from the House representatives

deep in the swamp. So it's really funny because they go alphabetically through people's votes. Yeah. And so Alex is like hanging on these votes and it's people in like the Ls. Yeah, long way to go. But we're already past that enough people have voted for other people that Jim Jordan mathematically can't win. Right. So that's why people are saying that he'd already lost. But Alex is acting like these votes coming in and

mean something. Oh my God. Amazing. So Jim Jordan's a monster unfit to lead in any capacity, even the capacity that he is in currently that being said The Democrats are never going to help another GOP candidate win the speakership the fringe idiots in the Republican side made their bed And it's incredibly powerful for the Democrats to now let them lie in it The GOP has the majority if they can agree to work together They can easily elect a speaker because their parties being held hostage by a small number of lunatics like Matt Gaetz, the only people who are in consideration for the speakership role are people who would pass the lunatic test, and there are some GOP members who won't stand for that, at least

enough to block the election. They're never going to get past that. This is a distraction, and it does get in the way of the job of governing, but this is a smaller hit for the Dems than it is for the GOP. Their effort to pass legislation would be hurt by the GOP majority to begin with, so the opportunity cost for them is a lot smaller to let this play out. Conversely, the GOP is wasting time where they could actually get things done, but they can't even look past their petty squabbles to elect a leader. Representative Mark Amade told the Hill that quote,

there ain't 217 votes for Jesus Mary and Joseph in there, which is a great sign that this is not going to get sorted out any time soon. I believe that. Yeah. You can't get 217 votes for anything. You cannot get 217 of these idiots to agree on anything. Mm hmm. If they simply cannot do it, they manage to pull it off with McCarthy, that they anything. They simply cannot do it. They manage to pull it off with McCarthy, but they completely fucked it up.

Love it. Yeah. The only problem, of course, is that they're still allowed to draw a paycheck and have health insurance and all that stuff. That should stop. Yeah. As I'm preparing this episode today, Jordan has said

that he's not looking to a third vote and is accepted that he isn't going to win. Because he sees where the cards have fallen, he's withdrawn himself from consideration and is backing the idea of expanding the powers of Speaker Pro Tem, Patrick McKenry, who took over temporarily when McCarthy got the boot. This, however, is causing real problems in the GOP and many representatives have already indicated they are staunchly opposed to the move, at least enough that this is not going to pass.

Obviously, the Dems aren't going to back it, so if like five members of the GOP vote against it, there's no majority there. So it looks like they're in for a long grind, trying to find somebody that they can nominate who opes both the more moderate side and the fringe extremist side of the House Republican body. They should have kept McCarthy and just continued posturing like they were about to remove him. That way they don't end up in an embarrassing situation like this and they can still get their basal riled up about how they're about to stick it to the man. You don't want, you don't want the

buyer's remorse of buying the car and leaving the parking lot. That's where they are now. I don't know. Does anybody care? I think some people care. I don't think so. I mean, I genuinely don't think it matters, whether they do or do not do anything. I don't think it matters as far as elections are concerned. I think for them, I think not least of which, because one, nobody's going to vote D if they're, if they're, that's not happening. There are people who are in districts

that could be a bit more contested than I imagine. Sure, but the other problem. It's something that is quite easy to attack in that game. Is the extreme gerrymandering of almost all of these congressional districts? Hey, buddy, that is not true. That is a factor.

So, but that's true. There is a part of me that says the smartest thing these people can do is act like they're even doing something. And this is the best thing to do because it's not even something. Well, I think it's a drama that doesn't really play into the GOP's advantage. In less people like Matt Gaetz were planning to fracture the party and spray-

I mean, they don't want elections period! That's true. Why would they care if they're ruining their electability? Yeah, that's true. I guess the idea is no more elections. I guess you do you do have a point in as much as there are a lot of districts that are

very jerrymandered. Yeah, but it is also uh um it's overly simplistic to say that everybody is safe because because of that because otherwise there would be you know no real income. Oh no no no I don't talk about the individuals. They're just saying everybody's saying. But there's also quite a possibility of being primaried.

Like these extreme folks could easily face a very well-funded primary challenge from the larger block of the more institutional establishment, Ryan Hose. Sure. As Alex might call them. And that is a pretty real threat. Sure. Tub I mean all of us sure Well, I mean the stakes are there, you know, like yeah, I'm not gonna I'm gonna screw you there's no good outcome here

Speaking not good outcomes. Yeah, they have to get back to Alex talking geopolitics God damn it. And here's where he just denies that people died. Oh okay great. And as you see there the hospitals there it's got windows blown out but the cars were hit. And that's what happened. You can see the little missile strike point. Even the missile came in sideways there on the ground. Now that's a fact. But where's the corporate media running its reports that it was a parking lot? Where are the 500 dead? Oh, there are a bunch of dead people and There's thousands dead. It's terrible. There are a lot of children dead, but not there. It's not true Cut and dry corporate media running with what Hamas that means Hasbola and the Mueller said And if you turn on our news right now, they're still saying

That Israel blew up this hospital. It's not true. What a piece of shit So I understand wanting to spread misinformation for profit and I know that the world situation here is a bonanza for him But there's no reason to act like this. There's no reason to deny the deaths of, you know, 400-ish individuals who were at that hospital. This is just monstrous behavior. Yeah, I don't even get it. At very least, there is independent verification of between 150 to 200 people who were killed and taken to the nearby Shifa hospital as told to the New York Times by the head of that hospital. There were also approximately 300 wounded who were brought there, but no indication of the severity of those injuries or if any of them passed away subsequently.

There may be some fine tuning that needs to be done in terms of the exact number of casualties versus the estimation, but what Alex is doing is inhuman. And it's such a disrespect to everything. Yeah. Further, if anything, the media is not saying that Israel bombed that hospital. I've seen a fair amount of coverage that says that nothing is definitive, like that there is some gray area in terms of being able to sort this out, but that the US and Israeli intelligence sources were confident that Israel isn't to blame. If anything, I feel like the coverage is pretty,

like when you take people who are seen as credible sources of information, like the US intelligence agencies and the Israeli intelligence, credible sources of information to the media, to the press, they are saying that Israel didn't do it. So it's actually the opposite of what Alex said. Yeah, it is very strange. Yeah, he's making all this stuff up that the media

is saying that because it works for his purposes better. Yeah. It's very weird. I find this whole thing really fucked up, not least of which just because it is a thing for us to discuss and like really focus on because there's big explosions and whatnot. But the truth is I am infinitely more concerned about the fact that people are going to die of thirst. Yeah. You know, like that's a really. Frankly, I'd rather go one way than to other. And for me, like, this is a type of conversation that allows people to get into this, like, oh, it's a war, you know, like,

oh, was it this side, the side with rockets, or was it this side, the side with bombs? It's an event as opposed to a process. And that can grasp attention a lot more easily. Right, I mean, what we are looking at is, I mean, they didn't, they don't need to fire any bombs. They don't need to fire any rockets. Israel just needs to stand at the fence

and say nobody gets water. And that's what they can do. They can do that. That's the thing they can do. Sure. So, I mean, it is weird that they're even firing rockets at all. Well, I understand your position on this. And that is fair.

I don't know. It's just weird for me because it is also kind of a moment where we see the media becoming Alex too. You know, there's that space of, wow, you can't believe anybody really. You can't, I normally when you see US intelligence sources say you can at least get the idea of like, I hope they're telling you the truth.

But this is a situation where it's like, I understand that US intelligence sources say that they didn't fire it. And I don't know if I can believe them. And I don't, you know? Sure. But more importantly is, they're gonna die of thirst. Yeah. I mean, there is, you know? I get what you're saying.

Yeah. There are different order problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I agree that there's, you know, this and then there's this. Yeah, yeah. And maybe I don't know. It's so tough. Yeah, it's a mess because you get into an argument

of what is more important. And I don't know if those are decisions that you and I can really have, absolutely, incredibly speak on. So it's all tragic. Everything is tragic. And Alex's behavior is kind of downable. Yeah, yeah, there's no win.

There's no winner. And he thinks he's just going with the truth. Oh, boy. Oh, God. Yeah, easy it is when you just go with the truth. Israel stood down. It stinks like a dead fish, whatever's going on. Biden gave six million five weeks ago. Two I ran, they gave it to Hamas. It stinks like a dead fish, whatever's going on.

Biden gave 6 billion five weeks ago. Two Iran, they gave it to Hamas, they admit they gave it to him. Boston Mitch, they were directed by Iran. And now Biden is about to let all the rest of the sanctions expire on Iran. What is going on? This isn't telling the truth. It's adhering to a narrative. It does make Alex's job a lot easier when he cherry picks pieces of information that are

convenient for him than compiles them into a neat narrative package for the audience. Dealing with the complexities of life isn't insanely difficult. An Alex is not up to the task. He hasn't shown it in any way that Israel had a stand down. He hasn't shown it in any way that Biden unfreezing Iranian funds had any impact on the attack on the 7th. Further, Iran hasn't admitted that they gave those funds to Hamas or else the funds would have been re-frozen. That account is regulated by the US Treasury, so saying we gave it to a terrorist group that wouldn't fly. But it's really helpful for Alex's narrative

to not introduce complexity into this. So he lies to the audience that this is all proven and all admitted. In some ways, this actually does reflect Alex telling the truth, which is to say that he's telling a deeper truth and that is that he doesn't give a shit about the truth. The truth is what's expedient for him, what makes his job easier and what makes him money. It's so much easier for him when he just follows that path because it's designed to be easy and has nothing to do with reality-based versions of truth though. It's just you know it's designed to be easy. It has nothing to do with reality-based versions of truth though. It's just, you know, it's so easy when you go with the truth that you don't

give a fuck about the truth. Yes, okay. Yeah, I mean, there is a certain level of if you were a self-aware snowball at the top of the hill, you'd be like, well, listen, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this fucking hill. And I would hope you're not in my way because I have no interest in doing it the right way, you know? There's something to be said for that. I will get out of your way. The problem is you keep getting bigger. That is the issue. So I'm gonna skip this next clip because it it's really it's just him repeating that you, you know, denying the death so the people at the hospital. And I mean, I think that there could be value in playing it repeatedly because he says it repeatedly. Yeah. But I feel like I can just tell you he's very invested in that. Yeah. For for reasons that are not

entirely clear. Um, he's very can, he very much wants to push that this is all fake. Yeah, basically, that it was just a parking lot. And, you know, there weren't deaths. I don't know if he would amend that to be like, I don't know, maybe someone was in the one of the cars and died or something like that. But in terms of the reality that, you know, people have said that there were a bunch of people who were seeking shelter in that courtyard.

He is not talking about that. And I can't stress enough, like that reporting that he's doing repeatedly through this show is something that requires and demands correction. It demands retraction. And the reason he won't do that is because it reveals how stupid he is.

If he were to retract, like, oh, I didn't realize that there were people who were seeking shelter at the hospital in the courtyard. It reveals how easy it is for him to jump on a storyline that he wants to be the case. Yeah. And report it so, like, passionately, and as if he's researched this and everybody

who disagrees is stupid. Yeah. If you were to retract, he'd just like, you look like a fucking idiot. Yeah, you can't open that. Once you retract one thing, then now you start measuring other stories against weather and not, oh, is it as bad as this time that I said there wasn't anybody who died in this hospital parking lot? I guess I won't have to retry.

Yeah, it's just never going to be good. Of course not. So instead, all you do is let this still be part of your... Just... Just keep on going. Just roll that snowball down the hill. So we're going to move along here then. We've gotten through what I would describe as the terrible portion.

Cool. Now we're in the farce. Not quite. Oh. Cool. That we're into first, not quite. Oh, there's a little bit of there's a little bit of news. And then we'll get into first the Wes Anderson title card second act. First has not yet come up. No, gotcha. So here is a little bit of news. He had the FBI over the weekend at a law enforcement summit in California in San Diego.

Said, oh, yes, there's a rising threat of terror because of this. Didn't even say Islamic. They said, but the real thing is the right wingers. Yeah, right. Because that's who's being targeted is loyal, smart, informed, good Americans. Who are loyal to the Republic. who are loyal to the Republic. And he don't want to be an Islamic enclave, but let's show the footage from Dallas. So it seems mysterious that Alex is just ignoring that story about the guy here in Illinois who stabbed a six year old boy to death because he was a Palestinian, and it had been convinced

by right-wing radio that Muslims needed to die. It's very strange. That story isn't in his bullshit stack of paper. Even weirder that he doesn't want to talk about Nathan Vetman, a dude who is now on trial for four counts of first degree murder after killing a Muslim family in Ontario a few years back. I'll just read this from a vice article that just came out about his trial. Quote, I consumed libertarian content, mainstream conservative content,

then I slowly started looking at some alt-right content on YouTube and then stumbled across some of the more fringe. He said that he consumed conspiratorial content like Alex Jones' Info Wars, where he found, quote, conspiracies that Middle Eastern wars were a conspiracy to try to bring Muslim immigration into Europe. This then led him to white nationalist content. If I were Alex, I definitely avoid this stuff too. It's hard to maintain plausible deniability when your audience keeps killing the people you're saying are incompatible with the West. Yeah. So the FBI director Christopher Ray made an address at the International Association of Police Conference in San

Diego. He didn't say the things Alex is saying. His speech is really easily available for anyone to watch and find the transcript, but Alex's audience, you know, they won't do that. So he's free to lie, however he wants. I honestly think that this line is what Alex is talking about. Quote, whether that be from foreign terrorist organizations or those inspired by them or domestic violent extremists motivated by their own racial animus, the targeting of community because of their faith is totally unacceptable. You can see how Alex would take issue with that. Like most of his favorite people are domestically violent extremists,

motivated by their own racial animus. I mean, the thing about something like that is that the easiest thing in the world is to listen to that statement and not shout, he's talking about me! Right, it's so easy to do that. Wait, is he talking about loyal Americans? I'm just sitting here going, I mean, even if you are, you can just be like, great speech, dude. You don't have to say you don't have to say that about white nationalists. What? Why did you bring that up? Well, because I am oh shit. You ready for some bars? Let's do it. Okay, here we go. They have a special guest joining us, a comedian.

Also, politically interesting and informative. Don't do this. Owen Benjamin next time. God damn it. Wow. This is unacceptable. Oh God. Having Owen Benjamin on this show is certainly a choice. Not only did Alex and Owen have a nasty falling out a few years ago because Owen was being such an overt Nazi that Alex had no choice but to cut ties and then Owen spent a bunch of time airing out Alex's dirty laundry talking about how much he hates Alex and how Alex is a fat idiot who's a shield for the Jews. Like not only that, that history is enough.

That's there. Yeah. And now I guess they're coming back together. And I think I have're coming back together. Yeah. And I think I have a theory about why. When it turned out that no one liked Owen and all the Rogan squad turned on him, he went running to Infowars and Alex. And then when he went little too far down the Nazi hole, Alex turned on him and he was

left with nowhere else to really go. Literally no one wanted anybody who had any level of cloud or media exposure And they weren't interested in him because he was a toxic bigot. He also was not funny It's a standup comedian who's not funny. I mean it's I'm offended by both of those things And I don't want to say which one offends me more and so he did what other aspiring right wing extremists have done in the past He packed up and he went to Idaho where he set up a compound. He called Ursa Rio I guess it's bear river or something like that which makes some sense because oh and subsessed with bears in the past. He packed up and went to Idaho, where he set up a compound he called Ursa Ryo. I guess it's bear river or something like that which makes some sense because Owen's obsessed with bears and his audience call him Big Bear. It's nonsense. Sure. Whatever. Anyway, after he went

to Idaho, Owen would set up his webcam, often it is fire pit and livestream himself drinking to excess and rambling about all sorts of topics, but frequently about how much he hates the Jews. Over time, he accumulated a sizeable Nazi-esque following, and he'd found his own niche, picking up viewers who like the folks that he used to hang out with, but mad they mad that they didn't talk about the Jews enough. Right. So you got this own guy to pivot towards. Here's my problem, right?

Here's my, okay, this is my only problem. This is a problem for me, because I kind of, what I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I? Here's my, okay, this is my only problem. This is a problem for me. Because I kinda, you can't test this. You can't test this hypothesis in the real world. But I wonder if I were to follow these same steps, could I get anti-Semites to follow me faster than Owen could? You know what I'm saying? Like, am I would I be better at being a no problem? Not because you didn't date Christina

Reechie and you were in a couple sandler movies. That's true. I didn't. That's true. So he had a higher place to fall for that. It's true. That's true. Yeah. Well, I think that's what makes his Nazi as an interesting to people. So he did this. He went out there and he started his fucking drunk livestreams by the fire. Right, right, right. And gradually this turned into a cult fantasy. Owen pitched Ursa Rio as a safe haven for people like himself and his audience. There would be cabins, people could come live in and stay in, but more importantly, there

would be a stage. So Owen could do stand-up to the only audience that might actually want to see him. Oh my god. They'd have a festival. Yeah. Owen raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from his fans because they believed in the mission of this fringe extremist compound, but it wasn't to be late last year.

Owen got in some trouble with the zoning people over construction. He wanted to do it. The property and he declared himself free from zoning laws. I was about to say that's exactly what I would do. Yeah, turns out that doesn't work. And eventually Owen had to give up on his plans to expand Ursa Ryo, which you can probably imagine pissed off a lot of his audience who paid good money for him to create the next Ruby Ridge. This has led to a significant portion of Owen's audience seeing through his entire scam and realizing that he was using the audience to try and build

and buy and improve his land. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to make matters worse Owen still wants to do stand up even though he sucks at it and no one wants to book his Nazi ass Because of this tension He's had to self-produce some stand-up specials and from everything I can tell, things are falling apart massively for him. His subreddit is full of people who appear to be ex-fans who now hate him, and it seems like Owen is in a particularly nasty feud with Adam Kamacho, the filmmaker who was making a documentary about his bare compound, as well as Owen's latest

special noble savage, which was filmed in a tent in the middle of Missouri somewhere, and was just released a week ago, or so, around a week ago, to very disappointing results. Oh yeah. I spent a while trying to get the bottom all of this, but all I can tell is that Owen sunk quite a bit of money into the special and they tried to post it, but the payment process he tried to use didn't want to work with him, so he was able to, he wasn't able to monetize it and everyone was supposed to get refunds. It's a big old mess. Oh

boy. There may also be some rights issues because the raw footage appears to be owned by a third party company. It's all such a fucking mess, which is not uncommon with O'Nvenginment. Say what you like about him, but he's the world's messiest drunk fire pit Nazi live streamer. Messy. The, the light, the footage of his special. Filmed at a tent in the middle of Missouri in a field and he somehow still doesn't own it.

I think so. That's why I was thinking. You lose a fucking iPhone and oh my God. That's amazing. No logistics. That is truly amazing. Oh man. So now there's another wrinkle here and that is that one section of Owen's audience is leaving because they're convinced he's scamming and the letdown of Urcerio is too much to handle but there's an entirely other section that believes that he's actually controlled opposition. All the Nazi shit he's saying isn't sincere according to these folks. It's just sugary words meant to lure them in and lead them into the hands of the Jews. Oh, you're sweet, sweet, not sea lies.

This is the ultimate fate of pretty much anyone who gets into the very lucrative game of conspiracy bullshit. It's super easy to play on people's anger, suspicion, and fear, but eventually that will get turned on you, and Owen is definitely in the find out part of the ride. I did a terrible job of summing all this up primarily because there is no clarity to any of this and everybody's a liar. But the general picture is super clear. Owen is losing his grip on his extreme audience that he's built over the years, and he's

pretty desperate. So desperate that he's willing to crawl back to Alex fucking Jones. Regardless of how disgusting any of the things these dudes say is or how offensive it is to have Owen on at a time like this, the real message I want to stress is how pathetic both of these losers are. It's just shockingly spineless for these two to get back together and pretend like nothing happened. Alex canceled Owen.

I mean, I just, it's one thing of you falling out with somebody and then you make amends, usually because one side or both had a change of heart about something and maybe changed one of their positions. Neither of these dudes has changed their positions. They're led to their falling out. Owen is just losing his audience and he needs to try and get the Alex bump. And so he's willing to just, Alex, you're so funny.

Oh man. I mean, it is so pathetic. It is so much like you can imagine it happening over and over and over again, though, because it does. It is like Alex gets mad at somebody And then after about a year he kind of forgets where he's at. I don't think Alex is mad at him I think it was a calculated decision of like I can't have this Nazi fucking drunk on my show Right right right but the pattern is like after a little bit

He doesn't even remember really and then they could definitely every you know whenever somebody's down They can email somebody and just, they'll be like, oh yeah, Alex, we'd love to have you on. Why, yeah, it's been almost a couple of years. What are you doing? It's been so long, like, they, it doesn't even know. Yeah, I think that there is a cycle.

In the same way that Steve Pogena kept burning Alex, I mean, you'd have him back. And then he'd come back. Yeah. Come back. Yeah, Alex isn't good at or or let's be generous. He's very forgiving. He's a forgiving man.

Seven times, 77 times. That's how much you must forgive your brothers. He's forgiven COVID for infecting him multiple times. He's true. He still seems to be on COVID's team. He's made a lot of peace with that. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex begins his introduction by saying some very not true things about Owen.

Well, a true fabric. For a popular comic and box show, so I'm going to join us to balance the hour. Talk about what all of us are. And comedy special and so much more. And then third hour into fourth hour, your phone calls. A couple phone calls. That's basically all that's not true fourth hour your phone calls. Couple phone calls. That's basically all that's not true. Even the phone call.

Oh, it's not a maverick. He's just a run of the mill anti-Semite in general big it. There's nothing new about him. He's not an in-demand comic. No one wants to book him anywhere because he sucks at stand up. And he's a boring bigot. He's not even a talk show host. You just live streamed himself saying idiotic shit.

Well, he's a drunk near a fireplace at his pretend Idaho compound. He's not even a talk show host. You just livestreams himself saying idiotic shit. Well, he's a drunk near a fireplace. It is pretend Idaho compound. It's ridiculous. None of that's true. Yeah. Oh, oh, he's a talk show host. He's he's one of the people that a really reinforces that like, if you want to be successful, it's good to be good at stuff. Mm-hmm, but it's way more important to find the right social sphere and then they'll help you get into that successful, right? You know, like, if you want to make good stuff, Yeah. Focus on making good things and you probably won't be successful, but if you want to be successful, find good friends who will make you that?

Well, and the like ultimate irony is that he had all that. Yeah, exactly. He was in with Sandler. He could have, he could have just coasted. He could have coasted. Yeah. I mean, fucking Rob, Rob, what's his dumb, he's still fine. Who?

You know, the other guy who was friends with Sandler for, you know, Schneider? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not, he's not as fine as he could be. No, no, no, no, he's not doing well. We're not as fine as he could be no no no, he's not doing well We're not gonna get a third we're not gonna get the final installment of the juice bigolo Absolutely not that will never will never get closure on that but you know Interstellar jiggle. Oh you imagine juice big low in space, but you know what Rob did?

He coasted long enough that he's gonna be able to run out the clock You know oh, it's got too much time on the clock left. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. And it's not looking good. No. You know, ironically, it's too much time left on the clock

and so little time left on the clock. That's a good point. So here's another not true thing. Uh-huh. Oh, it's good news. How many specials are here? Noble Savage. Oh, and Benjamin, what this is a bit much. There were massive problems with the release of this special. And so Owen released it on his own BITCHU channel where he has 38,000 subscribers. In the first day and a half,

it was viewed a little over 3,000 times. And it only has 148 thumbs-ups. Oh, that's okay. There's a grim number. Oh, is it grim number? He also has an Odyssey channel, which I only know because- I've never heard of that before, so now.

Oh, D-Y-S-E-E. I only know of it because that's where Project Camelot episodes were available. Oh, I gotcha, okay. He has 13,000 followers there and his special has been viewed 1,100 times. That's rough. Yeah. He was selling it but he had to refund all those purchases. So if people wanted to watch the special they had to do it on some platform of his. He has

opposed it on his website but it's unclear if this is a strict embed on the site or if it's hosted from one of the other platforms. But either way it seems unlikely that more than 10,000 people probably watched it, total. And I'm including the people in that tent in Missouri. Yep. Yep. Which actually doesn't contribute that much to you. I was going to say that's probably like what for it. Oh, there was a there were actual people there too. Yeah. Okay. Good for him. It was like a tent revival, but with an angry, big, comic, terrible. Yeah. Complaining about gay people existing. You know, I just watched my first stand up special in almost two years.

Beth Stellings new special came out. Oh, fun. Great. Yeah, she's gotten really good. She was good, dude. She was good. No, no, no, no, I know, but I mean, sweet math. Now we're in the time of like, not good, good, like, now she's she's in like theater good. Yeah, she's doing good. I

She was just somewhat on her way out of Chicago when I came around. So I never really knew her all that well that she was always very nice. Yeah, we were very good. Yeah. So conversely conversely. I watched a little bit of one special. Oh, no, I got so bored just a few minutes. Don't do it. It's very pandery stuff about how glad He is to not be on TV and how it's a sign of his purity that he's doing stand up in a field that he rented in the middle of nowhere sure It's all kind of dull. Yeah, he comes out screaming. They told me I was canceled. Oh my god No, yeah, oh man pretty fucking stupid. I mean if if I have heard your opening bit I'd

an open my head some garbage place it's like you can't do it on your independently release special rights extra gross. Yeah, that's extra gross very Very sad. Yeah. So, um, look, man, but the truth is he has been canceled. All right, I'll invent your mind. So one of the most canceled people out there, I'll invent your mind.com, most recent comedy special, noble savage, that a lot more clips coming up. He's so canceled that Alex himself canceled. Oh, he said he was canceled. That's not going to come up at all because Oh, and his fucking desperate and he'll just drop the whole Alex is a dumb shill And I apologize for associating him thing that he was selling his audience after Alex canceled

Yeah, that is all just water under the bridge man. Hey Alex So what's up? I missed you so much, buddy. So funny. You know what? We've been sitting on this bench next to this river for 20 years and then you've been gone for a couple How you doing? You know what's great farming. Farming! What's it like an Idaho? Alex, you canceled me. More like you, the hoe.

Am I right? Ah, cancellation. That's not too far off from what some of his jokes might be. I really hope you are. So, look, here's the deal. Yeah. I think, if I had to guess, I'll initiate it this. Yeah, I think if I had to guess yeah, I'll Ininitiated this yeah, oh for sure cuz his specials coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and no one wants to have him on that as

Any reach and there's no way Alex was like whoa Oh, when's got a new special out get him on and you can kind of tell because this starts off with him Plugging the special. Yeah, what do you make of where we are? And boy, Trump sent me in tweech, but we didn't get any big wars with him, and we're working a new war every few weeks now. Yeah, I mean, it's a really good time to watch my special and laugh. Man, we all need a laugh in this time.

I am. The bravest thing you can do is watch Owen's comedy special and just have a laugh. I just don't, I, I, I'll never understand it. I'll never be able to get inside the mind of somebody who can self-promote like that. Yeah, I just can't. Well, you have to feel bad.

I assume. You got to. You've got to. Yeah. Somehow. There has to be a feeling of dirtyness. Like I'm, please. Pulling something on these people.

Like, it is, it is a lot like I'm hanging my hat on the, like, uh, uh, uh, fucking, I'm hanging my hat on movies and shit where it is like these types of Pearson go into their dressing room, take their hat, mask off and then they're like, ugh, my love is fine. You know what I mean? And you're like, yeah, okay, fine. Good. At least that's going on. If you go into that dressing room and you they're like, oh, my love is you know, and you're like, and you're like, yeah, okay fine good at least that's going on

If you go into that dressing room and you're just happy, I'm gonna be furious Yeah, I think he's probably happy. Yeah, I think so too. So a lot of people say Correctly. Yeah, that old Benjamin is a big old bigot. Yeah, 90's semi. Sure, but he's not Mm-hmm. He just makes fun of the Jews He wait, hold on. I think I have this agenda like people used to think that I had this like anger against Jews, but it was just because I would make fun of them like I make a lot of Canadians or Christians or Muslims or Danish people or people in wheelchairs, right? I just won't

exclude people. He just doesn't exclude people from mockery. A point of clarity. Owen doesn't just make fun of the Jews. He would go on long drunk diatribes about things he didn't understand from the Talmud. He'd constantly say that the Jews are evil and of Satan. These weren't jokes that he was making, and they weren't political statements. It was just hate. People correctly categorized him, and that hurt his feelings, because Owen believes that he's entitled to say whatever he wants, wherever he wants, and if anybody calls him out

for it being full of vicious hate, then he feels like he's entitled to dodge that by pretending it's all jokes. Thereby making the offended party the aggressor there in the wrong. He's just an intellectual coward and a really, really bad comedian. I can't really think of much else to say, except sort of repeat that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what? It's, if someone had to become a that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? If someone had to become a Nazi, at least we didn't lose a good comic. You know what I mean? That is a good point. Yeah. That's a good point. Because there are a lot of people who have an interesting perspective and a gift with the performance and it's a bummer.

It's a bummer to see them go the directions that are, that are, and I will say there are a lot of people that I've met with the, the talent, the skills and all that stuff. And then some of the views that if they were to start tossing those about in public, not going to go well for them. True. You know what they do? Keep it quiet. Just don't say it.

They just don't say it. Well, on, on that level, obviously, I don't think it's good that Owen says what he says, but him believing this in private and still acting this way, maybe you may, I don't know, it's, I don't know if that would be worse. You know, I feel like at least he's being upfront about what kind of a, you know, piece of shit he is, but I don't know if I actually believe that because he is influencing a lot of people and he has these followers who wouldn't be following him if he shut up. Sure. I mean, I'll take, I'll take a person with the most racist thoughts in their brain who's never done anything racist over the person who's created a bare-themed compound in Idaho.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's fair. Yeah, so in this next clip Owen winds about his special situate you know what I bet might have happened Owen Benjamin might have texted Alex and he has him saved his phone as like Owen and he thinks it's a shawyer. That could be. I bet that might have been that can totally be. That can totally be. I wouldn't be your ONS. He just Owen and open the tax dammit shit goddamn it read receipts are on If he has read receipts on I'm gonna be so mad So oh it wides a little bit here about the situation that he has with his special You know with the whole third-party company possibly only

Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, and then Alex says we need to laugh. We got a lot So it's like that's this what I and so I got an offer for your audience. It's really interesting. Thing that happened to me today is yesterday I was selling my special for 20 dollars at OwnBenjamin.com. Too much. And we raised over we made over 30 grand in like three days. I was insane. And I was just about to start doing it. I promoted it in the camera guy. Started getting real weird about money and he wanted more of a percentage and he said he owned it and all this stuff. So I just said screw you and I returned everyone's money and now it's free. So if anyone wants to see it, it's now free because I don't negotiate with financial terrorists.

So now he can have 100%. Notice the absence of me saying, get up. We were funded everyone's money. And anybody wants to, it's like perfect timing. Like, right, is this world's getting so wacky with, you know, Whisk. Yeah, yeah, we didn't talk before we went on. Whispers of war. I was like, Hey, because I almost, I wanted you on weeks ago. And then I said, Oh, he's on today.

I almost tried to move because all the war news. And I said, No, we need to laugh right now at the edge of destruction. Yeah, oh, he's on today. I almost tried to move because all the war news. And I said, no, we need to laugh right now at the edge of destruction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, we need to laugh. Yeah, I don't buy any of that. That's such a bizarre turn of events because if you're selling your special

and everything is going well and that's your plan and then somebody who doesn't actually have rights to this right says, hey, I have rights to this right says hey I have rights to this now you tell them to fuck themselves right because you have your bases covered right I feel like maybe there was just something that oh and the some tea he didn't cross some I he didn't dot and he fucked up and this guy owned his shit oh my god I would I would imagine he probably went through a disreputable like vanity. Oh, really?

Yeah. Oh, really the sort of person who would still work with that. Would he disreputable? I would suggest they went through a disreputable vanity production place. And whenever he was reading the contract, he did not realize that they owned all of his footage. Oh, man. This, this, he's the kind of guy who's going to get a Warner Brothers. gonna get this Rebecca Black still own Friday or did they did that company that made it for her own it

Does she not she doesn't own her own master? Strange choice street That's a reference from how long ago is that old is that young I don't know anymore. That's pretty old Pretty old, but there has been a reassessment of Rebecca Rebecca Black's place in history and how That's a reference from how long ago. Is that old? Is that young? I don't know any boy. That's pretty old. Pretty old. But there has been a reassessment of Rebecca Black's place in history and how unfairly we all treated her. No, I refuse.

I've one ever. I have to her very wrong. I agree with that, but I want to know if she owns her own master. I have to, well, I think so because wasn't it a thing where her dad paid a bunch of money to like make the track? Right. And stuff I have to, I think he did, I think they did. You think he, wow, because he probably, he did probably negotiate.

He didn't get a major release. It only became popular because people were making fun of it. Right, I understand, but that's, it's not important. It's whether or not you own the master, man. She's got to have songwriting, writing, guarantee, whatever the reality of that is she did a better job in own I agree with you. I'm not.

Yes. Is always and she's not relying on it for no, but it's not we got a laugh. I was like after 9-11 when Gilbert Godfrey went into the aristocrats. This is what I need from Owen Benjamin right now. And I think he's gonna step up. I think he is going to step into the shoes of one of the greatest comedians that you've ever seen. I think he's got it.

He doesn't. Nothing is really funny about this. They play some of his clips of his stand up and they're really not good. Yeah. He has one joke that's basically about like how if people come up to him and say that they're gay, he tells them to get lost. You don't have to put up with it.

I'm sorry? Yeah. I don't know. I think you gotta put up with them because they're gay. Get lost. It's like what? As far as I mean- What a what a bit.

If there wasn't, it's like yeah, that yeah that is that is if kindler was doing that You'd be like that man is a genius Yes It was like a take on yeah Like I was back to me. Yes Also another very upsetting thing about this is oh, it's pretty big on family and stuff like that He's such kids and one have you sure but unfortunately this lead the like it bleeds into his special because you can hear a baby crying.

Oh no. Oh my god. So you can just kind of hear that's unreal. Yeah. Hear him saying very very horrible things and then a baby crying. Oh man. I wouldn't want it. That's actually unintentionally kind of funny.

Yeah. There was that I wouldn't want I wouldn't want somebody to play my clips while I was there. No. That's a terrible idea. I'm there. I'll perform them for you. That's live comedy. We're not going to watch my clips together.

That's an insane person's move. Right. A normal interview like this might involve a little pre-interview. Yeah, yeah. You guys, you give me the set up for my bits and then I'll do the bits much like happened with me and man cow. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they ask you a few questions and they give you a few softballs to lob up your bits. God, it does it worse. Little boy. Anyway, oh, and this is the last clip we're gonna hear from him in the far section. And it's just kind of some dumb homophobia in his part. Good.

I don't think the elite class just love rollerblading and soybeans. I think they want less people, and they want to break family units. Because if you have a satin-mide vegan addict that's depressed and thinks that there's no God and wearing an infinite hell or whatever, you can get them to work for less money.

You can get them to travel around the world. I'm sorry. I'm slave. But if you have a man with a family, because the anus is not a sex organ, and you get with a woman and you have children, that man is going to stand for principles, he's going to stand for the American way of life,

and he's a lot harder to control. And it's so obvious. It's so obvious that that's the point. And, you know, just pump them up with fluoride and vaccines and get them gay. That way you can be like, we'll pay you whatever. And people will just take it because they have no, like, tried in their in their self. They don't have a connection to their creator. So that's so stupid that it really really makes me think is this a parody? That has to be he's trying to be funny with that.

Well he is trying to be funny. Right. But I also think that he's trying to like make the underlying point that he's making. No. His point is point is we if you make people you make people sad, you can pay them less. And gay. If you make people sad and gay, then you can pay them less. Yeah.

Yeah, because that's not even a point. Because if you have heterosexual sex and you have children, you will stand up for yourself in God and country. I mean, it's just madlibs. He's got no words. He's got blank, blank, blank stand up for God and country. I mean, it's just madlibs. He's got no words. He's got blank, blank, blank stand up for God and country. But I honestly don't fit. I like, okay, yes.

Clearly he's trying to be funny in the way he's wording things. Like the anus isn't a sex organ. Right, right. He's trying to be funny in the Alex Jones space. The Alex Jones genre. But the point that he's making is not like just complete non-sequitor. This isn't something I this isn't a point that I'm trying to make. Yeah. That's the part that's disconcerting because it feels like it feels like a no one could possibly believe. No one

could possibly believe that. Yeah, but that's not the thing someone believes. It sort of tracks with a lot of the other things I've heard him say too. So that's kind of why I, I mean, client think it's not a joke. Yeah, you know, sometimes I feel like we lose just because whenever that it's like, no, you're enemy. And it's like every time I feel like I know my enemy, I hear something like that. And I go like, who are these people? Where are you from? What is your magical world view like?

How does anybody listen to you twice? Yeah. How do you do to you twice? Yeah. How do you do the living thing? It's amazing. I can't imagine functioning as a machine if I function like you. It's crazy. I madly yeah.

So we're done with the first. Okay. And now we reach complete nonsense bullshit. Here we go. So Alex is complaining a bit About DMT. He's talking. I'm sorry. He's harkening back to when he was on Rogan and he broke down how the the people are taking DMT And see an aliens and shit sure Has he taken DMT reason he is not and he is never oh god And we're gonna get to the reason, there's a very good reason why.

God damn it. First of all, he doesn't need DMT. He's crazy enough. That's not how you how he would put it. But there's other reasons. Okay. Let's trap it in. All right.

They've had since the 70s a secret project. Interveneously keeping people under for up to 10 hours is what I was told. A people that ran the project. Stubble by and in San Francisco in London. With people on intervenious drip, keeping them on a DMT pure DMT high, because if you take I was get metabolizes in the gut, so you're, you're, you're basically passed out or out of your mind for 10 hours, you take DMT pure from the toe or whatever it's smoke it. Then you are down.

It's like a six year old concept of what's going on. Doesn't matter whether it's a Buddhist or a Muslim or a question or a Hindu or an atheist. When you take the DMT. You see space aliens. You see other dimensions. You they give you advanced knowledge. They they tell you advanced knowledge. They tell you things that are going to

happen in the future. Even if you're a Buddhist, that's all around us. Our site is a tiny spectrum of the light bandwidth. We're basically blind. Because we couldn't operate. We're seeing everything else going on

around us. But our third eye can see it. The pineal gland. When we sleep, really, don't just work in what's happened in our lives. Some of the dreams are interdimensional or astral projection. Whatever you want to call it, the spirit world is more real than the third dimension. All right, Alex. So you take DMT and see the future. All right. Okay. So we've aligned our chakras. I'm pineal glands are open and

ready to see the light. Alex only talks about the things he can prove, man. Alex is really like a things he can prove, man. Alex is really like a hard information and proof kind of guy. He doesn't just take the ramblings of an old lunatic like Alfred Stubblebind and translate them into bizarre fantasies about how if you take DMT, you can see the future and commune with entities that give you, but here's the thing. He's talking about how like, you know, it allows you to see these things. Yeah. That it's just, you don't see it because the spectrum of light or whatever. I think that is his way of rationalizing

why he sees demons. That would make sense. Like he has the ability that you get from DMT. I mean, I have a lot of the abilities that people get from cocaine, so I'll take that. I like slight difference. But sure. I don't think you should be, and this is, I think, just from our lives. Since I was born, I have seen middle aged and older people who have never done drugs, tell me all about the things that drugs do. Every generation, it's something new to you.

Yeah. I wanna LSD mushrooms. I just, if you wanna talk about drugs, you have to just do some drugs and then tell me about them. You can't not do DMT and talk to me about them. By the way, that's just a rule. By the way, while we're on the topic of the way, why are on the topic of drugs? Yeah.

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completely negate all of the religions that he just mentioned there? Wouldn't they be, it would be tough. It would be hard to reconcile them. And also I've, I've known a lot of people who have gotten into DMT and those idiots did not see the future. Yeah. Wow. That's unfortunate. But look, yeah, if you're a Christian something else happens What spoiler alert? Okay, you're attacked by a giant mantis that makes sense if you're a Christian and you take DMT on average You get attacked by demons 100 foot the most common thing is a hundred foot tall Exactly hundred feet pregnant that tries to break your will because they know they don't have to. But we'll, we'll, we'll base if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you,

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They've got better drugs. You're rare. It's very rare. And that's why Alex is so special is because he's interfaced with God and all these other angels all right Uh-huh, wait, yeah, but I feel like you have some questions. Okay. No, cuz it's about the You will

Because yeah, well, I mean here's what we're dealing with He's very much suggesting that the will challenging mantis is real. Oh, yeah, if the other things are real see it Yeah, it's it's like probably right there. I mean, that's what I mean. It is. The mantis is dipping its little toes into Lake Michigan. I mean, and I feel like that's why that's the only reason so many people survive DMT trips is because the mantis, despite being 100 feet tall, or perhaps because of it, only desires defeating the will of it's a parade? Certainly, you can survive that.

You know. So, but the other thing too is that that really only happens for born again Christians. Right. If you are not a born again Christian, you go in there and I don't know. Maybe the man just says, hey, how you doing, buddy? Maybe you hang out with the man. Or are all of the elves that he's describing actually forming together like a Voltron to make the mantis. That seems to make the most sense to me. Is that the mantis is actually hundreds of little elves or demons wearing elf masks.

I think you're asking if it's a plastic mask. Yeah. I think it's like the spider man mask that Tony Stark remade. Okay. Okay. The one that goes yeah. Yeah. I think it's like the spider man mask that Tony Stark remade. Okay. Okay. Okay. One that goes. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. I immediately went directly to like a little piece of paper and a little little elastic band around. I think it would be fun because they are so high tech and they know the future and all this stuff. It would be a fun. It would be playful. I'd be great. I'm just a little paper man a fun, it would be playful. I'd be great. I'm playing for my ass. Just a little paper might, we drew it ourselves.

Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. That would be so disarming. And then if you're provo way, even if you're a clockwork elf or whatever, you got a craft. You got a hobby. You got to have a hobby.

You got to express yourself some way. Indeed. So the, the real thing that's going on here is that Alex is talking about how he talked about DMT on Rogan's show. Right. And then now he's mad because Jordan Peterson was talking about DMT. Fucking Peterson. Little jealous. A little petty. And the globalist and their demon controllers hate you because you're made the image of God. And if you could see your spiritual self, it's spectacular. I've seen it. I've seen my spiritual body. It's just like what the hell is of that that's unbelievable. And I'm like, uh, nothing. You know, why are there eight legs in the console of evil? Well, that's right. Man, this. And if you realize how powerful you are in the

intrinsic jealousy of creatures and entities and all these worlds and all these systems and all this energy that shows Satan, it fundamentally hates you. But you've had your memory wiped and don't know who you are. And so that's the test. It is the test. It's a fair test. You're not told who you are in this in this book

camp. But then God is a little cheat sheet. And we'll let you know once you've gone through certain tests. What? So that's what this is. And you don't remember this return. She is the new reporter. There are no way the Rothschilds, the Rockefeller's folks, they worship the devil. Oh, it came out when they leaked the documents of the 70s, the Frank Church Committee. What? That God has a cheat sheet? It's calling bones. They speak, they spend weeks and coffins being defecated on and being urinated on. And it's even in the good shepherd movie that that's like the Frank Church mat day. That was my day by Robert and narrow. That's in the movie. That's

actually in the congressional reports trying to get an entity to take them over as an avatar. All right. Nobody called the Middle East. That's fine. The phones are completely open. 877-789. 39, 877-789-2539. Now, open discussion about it. What you think is going on? What's happening? 877-789-2539. The phones are not completely open for everybody.

On that topic. Okay, so you can make some more of this thing. Here is Jordan Peterson. So now people are going to listen, talking about it. So there's a couple threads that are going on here. The first and funniest is Alex's personification of the divine. There's these other worldly entities and realms out there, but yet there's some, they operate based on petty human emotions, like ones that Alex clearly struggles with. Yeah, like jealousy. Yeah. Speaking of jealousy, this is part of an approximately 20 minute rant.

Alex goes on in the third hour about how he was talking about DMT and the demons back when he went on Rogan's show, but now Jordan Peterson is saying all this stuff and now people are going to listen. No one cares about when Alex says these things, but now that Peterson's getting in the game, everyone's going to care and no one's going to credit Alex with this. Oh my God.

Naturally, Alex plays this clip of Jordan Peterson saying this shit about DMT and then comes back with this clip. Yeah, it turns out that's Peterson years ago. The point is, this is all real. This is happening. So we didn't get any calls from Israel or wherever. The normally did for a reason they're not calling in. God's the strip. Yes, it has her power turned off most places. So we're going gonna take your calls in general on the conflict. I'm just, you know, blown away that the entire premise of his rant was bullshit. That's nuts. Glad to hear Alex was able to move on from that invalidation of his premise so easily. About Jordan Peterson. Now people will listen to me. Oh wait, that was years ago.

Uh, what a loser. That was, that was a blister a blistering one, two punch. You know that, oh, it was from years ago. Okay. Two, I don't know. Some people didn't call from wherever the fuck is going on. I don't know what is that. Probably powers out for some reason. So no, we'll see.

Hey, maybe you guys should, you work harder to call me next time. Great. Cool. I have noticed this thing that generally when Alex, he puts out the call for various collars from specific places, they really never call in. No. And he ends up talking to that weirdo Carlos and a couple of other regular collars.

Owl Killer. Owl Killer. That's one of his regular collars. Yeah. There's these people who just keep coming up. Same with like, they're not, they're just not as fun versions of like Louisiana dentures old man house phone Yeah, Owl killer should be a slam dunk for Louisiana dentures level and if they if that's the first time hearing of them Garbage, do you heard you've heard the name before because Alex will like rattle off the collars that are coming

Sure, one of them is often owl killer right right right So anyway Alex does not need DMT. Never has never will. Huh? And it's, and it's very real. And they're influencing what's happening on earth. So these demons, aliens demons, it's interchangeable. In my view, it's the same thing. I really feel like your Bible already have a connection. I already have a sermon. I, my brain is already pointed where it is. A lot of folks that are good people want me to take DMT and I'm not taking it because I'm like I already have these dreams every night and I already and I know the people that aren't Christians real Christians they don't have the bad events. I just over the decades talking to Christians the tech it's horrible because they know they're not going to fool you

they know you're not going to get you and you beam into hell. Because you know, hell's the only thing that's going to rape your consciousness when you open the gate. Imagine you're just opening the door. Wait, what? You're in the universe. You're protected by God. You take a drug that blows that away and now you're in a cage with 100 foot, crank

manness. That's the main thing that attacks. And it's got stirring aliens from the alien all around it and Geiger who was a Satanist said he had visions of those. All right, Geiger aliens. Does not sound fun to me. Geiger, you know, but that's the reality of this. You're out there and a face hugger comes out of the 100 foot mantis. Right? I think this is all cute and fun. Sure.

And I named that clip Alex Dreams of the Mantis at night. I like that. That's a good title. Does Alex dream of electric mantis? Probably. So I think that typically, my understanding, and this is true generally of psychedelics and things that have hallucinogenic effects,

a lot of the time, what you're experiencing is kind of a breaking down of your ego. Yeah. And a seeing through of subconscious thoughts and things that you yourself are struggling with. Sure. And so I wouldn't be too surprised if the born again Christians that Alex seems to know who did DMT have some real problems that they're wrestling with internally that maybe they've lost touch with. So you take a hallucinogen that's particularly powerful, you lose control of your ability to block out these thoughts and maybe they're manifested as a hundred foot mantis, maybe

not consistently, but maybe man cows saw that and that's why Alex's, because man cows go into those ayahuasca retreats. Oh yeah, that's true. So I think that a lot of this is man cows go into those ayahuasca retreats. Yeah, that's true. So I think that a lot of this is coming from him. Yeah, that makes the most sense. And based on my very brief encounter with man cow, I would say he's struggling with some stuff.

Yeah, I would say he's got a lot going on in his. So I think the basic of what Alex is just he's telling on his friends basically for being really conflicted individuals who end up in horrible strife when they do hallucinogens because they've lost control of the connection that they have with their inner self. Yeah, it is such a bummer. They're so, you can be so much of an asshole you can't even do drugs. Yeah.

That's brutal. Well, ideally what you'd hope is that you can have a humbling moment with those drugs and come together and bring these pieces of yourself into a more harmonious place. You think. But that doesn't really tend to work. Especially enough for someone who's head strong in stubborn as Alex, he will never listen to the mantis. I will say that if you discover, if you look deep within yourself and you find yourself and yourself as a hundred foot tall mantis, I don't know if you are coming back from that. Maybe you're just kind of a piece of shit yourself. So much. Yourself is a 100 foot tall mantis in a cage that is trying to break your will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the bad person right man this is you buddy yeah anyway

Alex take some calls uh-huh none from the Middle East no surprisingly shocking um and this caller I I just don't even know what's going on anymore Walter and California go ahead you're on here Walter Goggins hello how you doing sir thanks so much for taking my role um so back in mid august I took a to Austin, Texas to see what the buzz was all about. Had a great time. I recollect an experience where I had ordered an uber to head to downtown Austin, the individual who picked me up, um, he made his, uh, his presence known in my dream later on that night. Um, one of the differences was that as soon as he appeared in my dream, his eyes went completely black.

What are we doing? What is happening? This, this, oh, I thought the clip was going to keep going. No. I genuinely genuinely I was waiting for you to let this man go There's nothing really more He just dreamt of his Uber driver every black eyes. Am I am I understanding that correctly? Yeah Yeah, he went to Austin to see what the buzz was about you got an Uber and later that night He went to bed and dreamt of his Uber driver. I genuinely don't know why I Find something about the way he said I went to Austin to find out what the buzz was about I I find that genuinely both Charming and funny. Oh, I think it's because Alex is in Austin and maybe he build it up in your head for an Alex fan

Maybe I like the turn of phrase this driver made himself know to be made himself know to be later in my dream Which was a hello, which was such an absurd way of describing the turn of phrase this driver made himself know to me, he made himself know to me later in my dream, which was a, hello, which was such an absurd way of describing. He made himself known to me. Wait, we think this guy might be a writer, you know what I mean? That seems like a writer kind of turn of phrase.

I mean, I will say that, that seems like something that belongs on the page. I would probably leave it there and then leave that page at home. Morning pages. So we got another caller. And this guy and Alex end up engaging in, I would say this is exactly how you would act.

If you wanted somebody to maybe stab a Muslim child. Great. The attacks are gonna be here soon and very soon. I don't know if you remember the Sean Hannity episode where he was talking about the Muslim encampment north of Jasper Texas over here in East Texas somewhere. Yes. You only saw that report one. That camp went under stir. It's still there.

I'm working in Beaumont right now and the amount of Arab working people in this area is immense. I mean, look at all the Islamic protests all over the country. All over Texas. We are completely overrun and I agree it's not like red dom were attacked by

Cuba. The globalists are bringing in their sleeper army. There's no doubt. And and they're here. They're here. The indication that this guy is saying is they're Arab looking people. They're, it's their invasion army, according to Alex. I don't understand how any of this isn't just basically a begging people to hurt Muslims. I mean, imagine, imagine you're just at like a morning meeting. And somebody's just outlining like the challenges your business is facing, you know, just in general. Just like, oh, if we, this is a problem

and these, we don't know exactly what we're going to do yet. But this is the goal and you should take steps when you're, when you're making decision, you should take steps towards this goal. Alex isn't just being like, oh, you should kill people or anything like that. And this guy isn't just like, oh, you should kill people or anything like that. But there is this almost like stated, like, here are the people. Here are the players. Here are the outlined goals.

And here's the thing to be afraid of. Yep. And here's the fear to apply to everybody in this class of people. Yeah. And at a certain point, you have to recognize that the guy giving the meeting is the person who is making those small steps towards the

goal. You know, it's the person who's sitting there going directing everybody towards the goal. Well, and here's what makes it even worse is when that person who's giving the meeting explicitly tells you what will happen if this problem isn't solved. Yeah, which Alex does are last. You do not. Oh, fuck me. The biggest of most that I've seen is also in the middle of. For our third point now I'm not saying anybody to go doing. The point is is that is law takes over any

cut. We send and our government that claims it's opposing this is bringing in all safety American people. The main threat I appreciate your call. All right, I'm going to do five more minutes for Kate. Ali takes over. I'm

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So casually flips over to ads, but you hear there the negative state that will happen if something isn't done, which is that Islam takes over every country that it's allowed to be in. Is that the state of affairs you want to be in? Well, in that case, Islam can't be here. Not even a little bit. Not even one. These things are very easy connections that obviously listeners make. Yeah. Whether they act on it, whether it's extreme enough within them to hurt anybody or even treat anybody differently, that's an individual question on their end. Alex can't control that. But what he can control is the sort of stimulus that he puts into the equation. And he is putting stimulus that can go very, very bad into that equation.

And it's intentional. It's obvious that he can't be 20 something years into his fucking career and not be aware of this stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's just another example of that fucking horrific cycle that they have, just that by me making you fear this thing, you enact violence upon that. And then that thing becomes a source of fear forever because they're understandably pissed off.

And then you go back to Alex and he goes, well, see, look what happens. And then you remove the idea of its upper person's fault by making it a false flag. And then all of a sudden, you have a perfect demon with no possible... Well, you know... And Alex doesn't stand to exist in a world that doesn't have tension. No. You know, like, lessening of tensions, more people getting along creates less of a space that his shit even matters. Like, there is no way that this show has any relevance in a peaceful world.

Yeah. Like, and I think he knows that. Yeah. Anyway, look, this, this episode is fucked up, you know, because we can go from laughing at all in Benjamin's dumbass, talking about the giant mantis to the harsh reality of Alex's stochastic intentions. Yeah. And back. Yeah. And then at the same time, you know, we already, you know, earlier in the episode, but we have the denial of an atrocity. Like what like regardless of who is ultimately responsible for that explosion happening,

Alex pretending it's a parking lot and no one dying is a monstrous approach to dealing with the world. Yeah. And I don't know, I don't know, it's a portrait of just a fucked up show. Just imagine listening to this. And not like, imagine, not, I'm not saying in my shoes.

Sure, sure. Cause I'm listening to this critically and, you know, I'm deconstructing somewhat. Imagine listening to this as entertainment. Imagine listening to this and being like, this guy is above board. So it's an unthinkable scenario. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I handled in just a short period of time. It's a lot. And then I think about how all of that stuff makes me feel and trying to deal with it at once.

And it's like, yeah, it does make sense to want a simple version of the world. Yeah. It makes perfect sense. And you want, and you want a simple version of this stuff about Alex even, you know, that he's just, I mean, granted the simple version that he's a fucking liar.

Yeah, sure. That's fair enough. But to pretend like he is one thing one kind of liar or whatever is that over simplification. Yep. Yep Anyway What you gonna do I don't know man, but we'll be back indeed we will but until then we have a website indeed we do its knowledge fight.com Yeah, we're also on Twitter. We are on do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter.

It's at an Elejandro's girlfriend. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Neo. I'm DZX Clark. I hate this beeping bit because I was going to say you were, you were, it was not long for this world.

Well, coming back from the tour, especially, yeah, I just feel like every time I'm halfway to take on me, I need to do something else. It's not a bit that I keep doing it in my head. No, it's there. It's just like if you go boop boop boop boop you're gonna go. I'll come up with something though. And now here comes the sex robot. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm the first time coloring of a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. And I'm going to send you in Kansas. You're on the air.

Thanks for holding. So I like some of the first time I'm calling my huge fan. I love your work. I love you.