Knowledge Fight - #869: November 8, 2023

Episode Date: November 10, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness Alex interview a guy with a viral video and a woman who denies viruses, and come to terms with the reality that the chicken fried steak is the new hot tub....

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 I Rettler Rettler Rettler No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, noakes. The knowledge, mate. Knowledge, mate. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Chang-ee are the bad guys. Knowledge, mate. Dan and Jordan, knowledge, fight. We're here. We're here.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We're here. We need money. We're here. We're here. We're here. Andy and Pansley. Andy and Pansley. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Andy and Pansley. Andy and Pansley. We're here. Andy and Pansley. Andy. It's time to pray. Andy and Pansley, sure on the ear of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. It's time to pray. And the end of the game. It's time to pray. And the end of the game. And the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:00:59 And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game workable dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Joe, oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. What's up? What's your price about today, buddy? My price But I guess is I've been seeing some movie trailers. All right, because I don't I'm not one of these fancy people who pays for YouTube premium
Starting point is 00:01:21 That is true. You know, I got the commercials, I have to sit through almost of the time. You must. Unless I can skip them. And I've seen some movie trailers. Okay, and I have some thoughts. All right. So there's a new Ghostbusters coming out. Did not know that.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yep. Okay, is it, uh, ooh, is it set in like 1830s London? No. And they're fighting the ghost of Jack the Ripper. What is something to do with ice? Well, that's close. There's cold something in it. There's people are freezing.
Starting point is 00:01:48 People are cold. I found the trailer to be sort of shocking in some ways. It implies a lot of death. Ghostbusters in a day after tomorrow. It feels that way. Yeah. But you got Camille Nanjiani up in there. You got Mad Nosswald.
Starting point is 00:02:04 You got Paul Rudd. All right. Camille's, Camille's still ripped. I don't know. I don't think so. Did he let it, was he like finally that can be done with all of this shit? I think so. For the interviews I've heard with him that was not a super the reviews of the eternal Also not super pleasant But yeah, it looks fine. I don't know if I'll see it But it looks fine. Yeah, it just brought me back to I saw the one with like Kristen Wigg them and I've I got so emotional when the theme song hit at the beginning. Oh really? Yeah, I was just like I did not expect that Wow, just like did you have a huge attachment to those monsters?
Starting point is 00:02:46 I didn't think I did. But I must have. Like, I knew I liked that. Them as a kid and I had toys. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Like the proton pack and what have you. But yeah, I didn't realize that it was really gonna hit me as hard as it did.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And so I was waiting for it in this trailer. And I don't remember it coming. They couldn't secure the rights to the song. Yeah. Or they want to leave it for when it has the most emotional impact. And I support that. But the real bright spot is the trailer of, I didn't know this movie existed. Looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Okay. Dream scenario. Never heard of it. So it's Nicholas Cage. All right. And he looks a little older. He's playing a old Old non-descripting kind of guy. Sure. Sure. Someone's a dad. Someone's uncle. That kind of vibe But I guess I from what I'm able to make out from the trailer. It's he is
Starting point is 00:03:39 Somebody who keeps showing up in people's dreams and so he becomes a celebrity for being in people's dreams. All right. It looks insane. That does sound insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So now you, because you've got Nicholas Cage being able to play this character, he's dealing with the fact that he's in people's dreams and now he's famous because of it. Right. And then also being crazy in people's dreams. Yeah. It's just, it's all the things you would want from everything. Yeah, it is. So it really is. And he can be as nuts as you want in those dreams. And it doesn't impact the narrative of it, because it's a fucking dream.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Right, right, right. So you don't have to abide by if you die in the dream, you die in real life rules. And they don't have to abide by like, Nicholas is out of pocket. Right, right, right. Oh, it's a dream, it's fine. Yeah, yeah. He won't stop doing that weird voice. Oh man. right. Oh, it's a dream. It's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 He won't stop doing that weird voice. Oh, man. It would be so great if there was just one dream where he predicts 9-11. You know, and it's like, oh, all right. I know you guys are watching. One dream where he's Superman. Make up for him not being Superman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah, so I want to see that. I haven't seen a movie in theaters in a really long time. Yeah, it's been a pretty pandemic for me. I think I might be more recent than you then. Oh yeah? So I saw, no, yeah, it was one of the fast movies, but it wasn't the last one. So might've been fast nine, I think, maybe.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I felt like I had to see it in a theater. Yeah. And I think that was after that was post-pandemic. So I think I'm more recent than you. Yeah, I think think that was after, that was post-pandemic. So I think I'm more reason than you. Yeah, I think so. But yeah, that looked like something that I'm like, all right, I'll get my ass out of my seat and go watch that. Yeah, I think that, yeah, the last movie I think I swear,
Starting point is 00:05:15 I think the last movie I saw in theaters was The Rise of Skywalker. And it leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Sure, much like the reviews to eternal. Exactly. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is yesterday morning. It leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Sure, much like the reviews to eternal. Yeah, exactly. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is yesterday morning, I went and I got my car serviced. Did the oil change, did the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm at the dealership, just waiting there, just waiting for everything to be done. And then I walk by in the waiting room and there's Mike fucking Wiley there. Hey! At the same time, I don't know where. Chicago comedian Mike Wiley. fucking Wiley there. Hey! At the same time! I don't know where! Chicago comedian Mike Wiley.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Mike Wiley and it was awesome. Yeah. It was great to meet him again. It was great to meet him. It was great to meet him. It was great to see him catch up. And it's so cool. But also he listens to the show.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So I know he's going to hear this. What's up Mike? Exactly. And there's a part of me that's like, oh, shit. Have I told the story on the, have I told any, am I saying anything that might have been on the show? Right. I'm repeating it to a, to a board person who I was like, they're the first night I did stand up. Common. I've, I've had that moment a number of times. The people who are politely, uh, like, yeah, you set that on the park? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's not a pleasant feeling, but it is something you kind of have to make peace with. It's not fair, but it is what it is. Yeah. So Mike was getting his car, Mike was getting his car. Mike was getting his car. Taking care of too.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It was so great. It was so great. Love Mike. You know, like I said, he was there the first time I did stand up. He's instrumental in like me continuing to do it and not feeling like I suck the whole time. So he used to blame.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It is entirely his will. He's very supportive. He was way too supportive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could all have saved ourselves a lot of time and effort if it weren't for Mike. Well, that's great. That's always nice.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That was nice. Run into an old friend. And it at a odd time in a odd place Mm-hmm, you know, it's it's always a delight sure. Yeah, here's my second bright spot What's that I got a haircut and you didn't even notice we've been sitting here for half an hour and you didn't notice I noticed Well, you didn't say anything so it means it's a bad haircut. No, I did well. I mean here's the problem. Oh shit Here's the problem all right Whenever I was walking in the door, I saw you,
Starting point is 00:07:27 and I was like, different haircut, and by then you had turned around and you fake like, close the door on me. Yeah, yeah. And I lost the initiative. Mm-hmm. You're not gonna pin this on me. And then after that, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:07:39 and then after that, I was like, I don't know, when do I inject this into the conversation? Any point. And here we are. Right. And here we are. And here we are. Your haircut looks great by the way. And then after that, I was like, I don't know, when do I inject this into the conversation? Any point. And here we are. Right. And here we are. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Your hair cut looks great by the way. Thanks. That was not forced at all. You're just 12th trimmed? It's a delight. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. I'm going to be talking about November 8th, 2023. That is, present day Alex is back in the studio.
Starting point is 00:08:04 This is decided not to quit. Oh, damn it. Right. Yeah. Um, and so we're going to talk about what he's up to. There's been some elections around the country. Oh, that's true. Yeah. The election in Virginia, yeah. Yeah. Kentucky. Yeah. Ohio. Ohio. Mississippi. Uh-huh. And a lot of them did not go great for Republicans. Not great for them. No, no, no, no, uh, pre-loud resounding call for abortion access. It is it is very funny how for for so long We've allowed it to be tossed back and forth as a political football and then finally whenever they did go fuck it It's gone now everybody's like oh, oh, we actually did want that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Oh, how about that? Let's put this to bed. Let's just, this is something we all support. We should be done with this, right? We should be done with this 40 years ago. Yeah. And it's maybe a very small group of fringe weirdos who are keeping this an issue.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. And we should just move forward. Let's just move forward. Anyway, there's a bunch of that, and so Alex, I was gonna say he covers the election, but he doesn't really. No, that makes sense. There's something else he covers
Starting point is 00:09:13 that sort of has to do with the election. And we'll talk about this here in a minute, but first, let's say hello to some new ones. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, Jamie is a pretty cool guy, I guess. Thank you so much, you're an out-pulles-y-want. I'm a policy-want. Thank you very much. Thank you, next, Nate Burrow's High School Friends cousin. Thank you so much, you're an out policy want. I'm a policy want. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Next Nate Burrows High School Friends cousin. Thank you so much, you're an out policy want. I'm a policy want. Thank you very much. It was so weird that you mentioned Nate Burrows earlier on the show because I was reading this email and he was like, I did not.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I mentioned him before we started recording. Oh, did you? Yeah, yeah. That's on me. But that is still weird. Yeah, it is still weird. But yeah, so the email was like, wouldn't it be funny if you guys knew each other? And it's like, you have no idea how well I mean, I know snake perro I don't know if I know his high school friends. Sure. Most of the people that he hung out where a lot of people he hung out with and I would
Starting point is 00:09:59 hang out with as well, where a lot of his college friends from DePaul. Right. But he had to know about high school friends, and then their cousins. Yeah, exactly. That's, that's, that's, thrice removed. Yeah, that does. But I'm sure we would be friends. Yeah. Next, I've got plenty of words for you, but a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Hello, Seattle. Have you seen the new, uh, for you? No, never. Never. Never. I want to. I want to. And yeah, I have it.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I know you do, and you know why you haven't. Yeah, it's something stopping me. Mm-hmm. And, uh, Dan, I will gladly beat your SCOM music friend, FIF forever. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. You know that stands for five iron friends. That's right Hey, we got a text grant in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to wank's anonymous if you're struggling with addiction
Starting point is 00:10:53 There's a community of wank's there to help. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk What's the honky mod and tell it you brilliant someone someone satamite sent me a book in a poop daddy shark I'm not gonna tell you, brilliant. Some one, some one, Sotomite sent me a book in a poop. Daddy Shark. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean Black Action. He's a loser little, little, titty baby.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So yeah, we start off with the awareness that an election happened. And that's basically all you're gonna need because So here's what's going on. Okay, there's a viral video
Starting point is 00:11:31 Why would I have expected any other two words to come out of your body? Okay, and so Alex Covers that viral video when he's going to then interview the guy who's in the viral sure got you Matthew hurt Turns out as a mutual friend of mine. He heads up an organization that's very successful exposing tyranny in Virginia. He joins us in about 15 minutes. And of course, it's the viral video. 10s of millions of views on Fox, 10s of millions of views on Twitter, 10s of millions of views on Twitter, tens of millions of views on YouTube. And it's just probably 40 million people seeing this now.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Finger wagging dim voter loses it on GOP poll worker in Curse, Lade, and Moran. He says, I'm taking your picture and I'm gonna get you the Republicans win. And this is standard fare for these folks. Yeah, so as he likes to do, Alex has decided to try to attach himself to someone who has a video that's going viral. And he's trying to suck whatever juice he can out of that.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a gross mosquito on an even shittier, smaller mosquito. Yeah. In this case, it's a Matthew Hurt with two T's, who's a Republican from Virginia, who filmed himself getting scolded by a really annoying Democrat. I've watched the video and the dude is out of line, but it's not really that big of a deal. Sure. If we're talking threats, I've seen way worse coming from the right, but when you lose these elections real hard, you have to have a different story to report,
Starting point is 00:12:58 and this really works for that purpose. Oh, that's fair. That's fair. In the Virginia election, Democrats ran hard on defending accessory productive health care and they ended up regaining control of the General Assembly, which coincided with Andy Bashir being reelected as Kentucky governor and Ohio voters passing an amendment to their state constitution to enshrine accessory productive health care. Overall it was a very bad day for the right wing after this election and if you're on the losing side of something like this,
Starting point is 00:13:25 you don't want to sit back and reflect that maybe your position isn't good and people don't like it. You can't go on air and say, eh, maybe people feel that access to abortion is a human right and mine is a deeply fringe position. That doesn't sell. I mean, it would be, it would be a weird world. Like, I think we would all have a fucking whiplash day. If all right,
Starting point is 00:13:46 wing media was just like, Hey, listen, the majority is spoken. I guess abortion's done. And that's, and we would all sit and stop. And the entire fucking country would stop. We would all have whiplash from breaking our necks on how quickly they, they hit the brakes on us. It's insane. Well, the conversation would need to be something along, for it to be had seriously, would have to be something like, I am recognizing that 80% of the population is okay with this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And I don't care. I have a principled opposition to it and I demand that I impose that upon you. Yeah, that would be what the conversation would have to be. And that's just not going to happen. That's not going to happen. And no one's going to change their mind about anything. So you need a different angle to run with.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And thankfully Fox News did a story about a GOP poll worker type guy who had a Democrat voter be a dick to him. And now we have a completely new news cycle. And there's no need to spend time talking with the audience about how this doesn't bow so great for 2024. I do appreciate that I spent my early years learning to learn. And then I spend the rest of my life being told by TV how not to. And observing so many people who can't.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah, exactly. Or just refused to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Incidentally, Matthew Hurt with 2T's is no normal pole watcher guy. This is a dude who is deeply connected to insider GOP circles and he knows exactly what he's doing. He didn't just have a video go viral and now he's making the most of it.
Starting point is 00:15:14 First point, he's the director of professional services for the Leadership Institute. This is an organization that's meant to train conservatives in various capacities as activists, media figures and candidates. It was founded in 1979 by a man named Morton C. Blackwell, who's still its president, and incidentally also the head of the Republican National Committee in Virginia. Yeah, that's a white nationalist. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I don't know. You're making them assumptions in my bones. I feel it. All right, you're making a guess. Morton Blackwell, yeah, I feel it. This group boasts some serious alums, like Carl Rove, Jim Jordan, Grover Norquist, and Mike Pence, as well as Project Veritas' James O'Keefe.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Before he caught the eye of Andrew Breitbart, O'Keefe got a grant from the Leadership Institute who supported his efforts to bring a conservative publication to his campus at Tufts. There are many big name individuals, but there are even more folks they've trained who you'd never know who they are, whether they be functionaries in a bureaucracy or local activists around the country. And assassins. There may be a few ninjas.
Starting point is 00:16:15 One thing that I've seen brought up about their training is that they like to stress what amounts to distasteful trolling. For instance, in 2005, Jeff Horowitz went through their course and wrote about it for Salon, saying this, quote, of Elder personally went to a drugstore and bought little pink heart stickers, bandages and purple nail polish. At home he made the Purple Heart Band-Aids that he later distributed in Madison Square Garden to mock John Kerry's war wounds. From Blackwell's perspective, the Kerry camps outrage at the gag was a tactical disaster. You see the same kind of strategy all over the place in the right wing. You do something so distasteful and offensive that it's almost certain to cause a response
Starting point is 00:17:06 and then make an entire news cycle out of how someone was offended at the offensive thing that you've done. In many ways, the story we're seeing play out in this viral video in the coverage of it on Fox and Infoers reflects a fairly similar strategy because there's one important thing that we don't know. What provoked the confrontation? There's an entirely perliminary exchange between Matthew and this annoying Democrat,
Starting point is 00:17:27 but it wasn't recorded, so we have to take Matthew's word for it. I have no idea what happened, but I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a little more poking than Matthew would like to admit. In addition to all this, the leadership institute is heavily funded by right wing billionaires like the Lyndon Harry Bradley Foundation, the Ed Eulian Family Foundation, Donors Trust, and Donor Capital Foss. Awesome. Those guys are great.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Anyway, Matthew works for the Leadership Institute, and I will say that being the Director of Professional Services is not an entry-level position. He's pretty high up in there. In addition, on the website for the Libertarian Party's 2022 Convention, Matthew is credited as the, quote, director of external relationships for Americans for Prosperity Foundations grassroots leadership academy. This grassroots leadership academy is very similar to the Leadership Institute, except that it started in 2015, and it's run by Americans for Prosperity, a Koch family front. In 2016,
Starting point is 00:18:20 Matthew was listed as a quote, grassroots trainer and curriculum specialist. So the two things to be clear about is that he worked for a Coke front grassroots astroturfing outlet for years, and he's a specialist in the things that they teach. It should be noted that the grassroots activist certification program, inside it, there's an entire section of class dedicated to going viral. So maybe he knows the material.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Anyway, this isn't a guy who just was a humble poll volunteer who was involved with some groups fighting corruption and he had a video go viral. This is a deeply connected republican activist who trains people on how to do exactly what he's doing now. Essentially, this entire thing is a farce, but it's an important farce for them to play out. If they didn't do this, all that would be left would be talking about how poorly their side did in the election, and that's not going to happen. So here we are. As for Alex, I mean, he just saw somebody getting a lot of views and he wanted to get
Starting point is 00:19:14 done on the action. He could care less that this guy works for the very people he would call globalists. The organization that was involved with training Carl Rove. If I was... Alex lovesver, Norquist. Yeah, oh boy, no texts, no, whoa. If I were this dude, I don't know if there's a better ad for my school than going viral in exactly this manner at this exact time, right?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Like, you should have to go to billionaire. All the billionaires would be like, look, look at what I just did, me even more and look at the way I played it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean come on. I earned all of this shit pay me a billion dollars. Yeah, so he's gonna be on here in a little bit and That'll be most of I think I would I would say it's a fair assessment said it's most of our episode Mm-hmm. That's fair. Um, but of course there was election fraud. Sure. They also clearly had more election fraud and Kentucky and evidence of that. And the governor's race it's happened again. Magically the gas broke at two different voting places of the key Democrat areas to keep them open.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Wait, what? Late into the night so they would magically get the votes to put him over the top. That's in Louisville Kentucky. So we'll be looking at that as well here today. So I know of one instance of a gas leak in Kentucky at the Highland Baptist Church in Louisville, but that just closed the polls for 30 minutes in response. A judge allowed them to continue voting until 6 30 instead of six. Is that keeping voting open late into the night? Late into the night. Seems like an embarrassing stress. After daylight savings time?
Starting point is 00:20:51 That is dark. If you're Alex, you have to work with what you've got. Yeah. I understand and I appreciate it. And you do what you got to do. So what's the second place that had a gas leak? I have no idea. And Alex never talks in specifics.
Starting point is 00:21:03 So I'm kind of left in a no man's land where I have to assume he's just making that up if there's one gas leak That isn't even close to suspicious, but if there's two then you have the beginnings of a pattern Yeah, not really no, but if you're Alex you have something you can work with yeah I mean that to me that's almost like he would be shocked if there was one you know like him hearing you say There was a gas leak would be like aha, was one, you know, like him hearing you say there was a guest like would be like, aha, I can't believe I guessed right. You know, like it has nothing whether there was one or two or zero. He's operating off like skimming headlines. And so I'm guessing he saw multiple headlines about the same polling place being closed
Starting point is 00:21:39 and his brain made it multiple ones. Yeah. Because he's looking for the storyline that's exciting and indicates a election fraud. He has the story decided already. It's just fit in the pieces. Yeah, I feel like that's a diminishing returns. You can do a lot of career. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:21:56 But I mean, you can do election fraud for like presidents, you know, the big four years, that kind of thing. On off your elections, who's really fraudding? No, but that's the big four years, that kind of thing. On off-year elections, who's really frotting? No, but that's the thing. This will never not happen again. Ugh. I mean, you just have to recognize that. It's just the new thing.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And everybody needs to stop taking these arguments seriously. So it's just a knee jerk response, not based on anything real. Ironically, Alex pretends he's concerned about election integrity, but by screaming election meddling after every single election, the result is going to be the accusations of election meddling are going to be so much easier to ignore. Yeah, just the boy who cried election fraud. Oh no. Yeah. You may notice also that he's not talking about Mississippi, how nine polling places in Heinz County ran out of ballots. He's not bringing that up. Weird.
Starting point is 00:22:44 This is a heavily democrat area, so Alex isn't interested. Incidentally, it's unclear if there was any kind of a various plot to disenfranchise voters, since the turnout was so high that there's a good chance they were just severely unprepared. Wow. By law, they're required to have enough ballots
Starting point is 00:22:58 for 60% of the active voter count, but if you get over that turnout, it can be an issue. Yeah. And so I think from what I can tell, absent any other evidence that I haven't seen, they just were unprepared for a wave of... Right, right, right, right, we didn't expect democracy to work this time.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Well, it's not worked before we're Mississippi, okay? Now, if this were a Republican area, you should know that Alex would be... Oh, it'd be the loudest thing anybody would ever speak about definitely I mean because the idea of that many polling places running out of ballots in a very specific area that leans heavily towards one party you would have to objectively say there could be something wrong they're needing to investigate well the reason is because all the precincts are in the same county and the 60% number is based on the county.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And then they distribute the ballots to the polling places. It's not complicated. Right. Yeah. But for Alex, it would be so good. Yep. So this is off topic a little bit. OK.
Starting point is 00:23:54 But Alex has a report in mind that he's going to do that I think is distasteful. The reason I never play this footage is that if you're going to play it, you might as well really show a bunch of it. So, don't. I'm going to show a little bit today, but when I do a special report for Stephen Crowder's outfit, the little air Friday, and all the extra extra stuff over here, I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:24:16 a deep dive on what it's like to live in Africa under the rule of some of the African despots and none of the Islamists. And when we got footage of a mullet down a little children, we got footage of just piles of dead bodies, black people begging for their lives at the hands of the Muslims, who are Arab, but also at the hands of Africans. And it's just absolutely, completely over the top stuff, mass executions, you name it. Now, you're not going to see this on the news because only white people can be mean to brown people. See, there was a faux concern about people that he was expressing. You know, you could be,
Starting point is 00:25:03 you could be tricked into thinking that he cares about what these people's lives are like in other countries, but he does not. I mean, this is just to prove that white people aren't the only bad people. I mean, I know. It's so awful. I immediately got visions of like, for the price of a cup of coffee a day,
Starting point is 00:25:20 you can give Alex the price of a cup of coffee a day. You could alleviate his feelings that everyone's man to him because he's white. I mean, it is. Yeah, it's like you're, you're even trying to make money. I mean, it's insane. Yeah. Great. We jump back to the main topic, which is this viral video. Also, do you think the news in Africa has that they're covering the news in Africa? Not the news in. And many news outlets do cover much of this stuff that Alex is pretending that they don't cover.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's very, it's thoroughly covered books, everything. So we get to this viral video, which is the real news. Yes. God, I hate the world. And so Alex plays it so you get to hear the exchange. Here's some of the attempted voter suppression in Virginia yesterday. Attempted voter suppression. You might have been, might as well have been walking up to my head
Starting point is 00:26:11 on the way to the pole, sitting putting a gun in the head. Try to tell me what does that. You stuck me in the mud, take that personally. You try to overthrow elections with violence. And then you're out here among decent people Thanks for coming out there, huh? What's on your what's on your Your what are your policy prescriptions? Come on, I say you've got rates as rights now involving yourself and people's families and their
Starting point is 00:26:41 Bedrooms it's pretty loud. You can be animal families and their bedroom's pretty well animal you try to steal my vote next year I'm gonna remember you personally thank you one party comes in for one party state you can. Okay. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state.
Starting point is 00:27:10 It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state.
Starting point is 00:27:18 It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. It's a one party consent state. people was able to put on a face of a good neighbor, but they support lynch them to take a care of their Bible-beating bigots and freaks.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And they're not good neighbors. Is this a state farm commercial? Yeah, so that's the video. And you do realize watching it why the headline is finger wagging person because that's basically what he did. He finger wagged. Yeah, that's the least threatened I've ever felt in my entire life. The most threatening argument you could make is that he did take a picture of the guy, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Did he release a video to Fox news? No, that was the Matt did. Oh, that's weird. And then the dude got doxed. Oh, yeah. Huh. I don't think this is supposed to be voter suppression though. Like even under the most critical examination of what this guy did.
Starting point is 00:28:24 This guy's not a voter. Uh, this, this is shit. He's, this guy's wanted to get that shit off his chest for a while. I'm sure. I get it. I'm sure. He blew up. That happens. I mean, that's not very good. No, I think it's impolite for sure. It's unbecoming.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And it's just bad curse. You know, it's just a poor usage. What are you talking about, shit bird? I mean, yeah, this is this is not good You can punch that up if you want to be threatening in a like fun way or in a threatening way You got to do about it than this true. Yeah, I also got the feeling that maybe he knows who Matthew is It did have a very there's a familiarity. Yeah. I don't know. It was the rapist rights part. That's where it's like, why are you throwing that one in there for? Yeah. And also the, the your insurrectionist type, you know, I want to overthrow the government. Sure. Like,
Starting point is 00:29:18 that's not all of the GOP. Well, maybe I don't know if that's an assumption you would make just from someone offering you a Republican sample ballot. I don't know if that's an assumption you would make just from someone offering you a Republican sample ballot. I feel like this is that's the assumption this dude would make maybe yeah, I don't know I I got the sense that there's more here than meets the eye. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what that more is But there's something that isn't being told by this video. So Alex got in touch with this guy through a mutual friend. God, man, that sucks. It sucks to be an old Fox News viewer, because this is what you get.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. This is what you get? Like, I can go to World Star, man. Do you not understand what is really out there? What kind of fun shit is really going to happen? Yeah, but those videos are going to feed you the message that you want, which is that your political enemies are unhinged finger waggers.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Right. You know, oh no, I'm so, you don't want to be scolded. No one likes that. So Alex has a mutual friend of this guy. Uh-huh. And I thought the way he explained is interesting. Okay. Also, guys, print me his Twitter.
Starting point is 00:30:24 He's got a very successful organization. Print me his interesting. Okay. Also, guys print me his Twitter. He's got a very successful organization. Print me his Twitter. In Virginia, those people that work with him are how they give me his number this morning to get him on. Alex knows some people at the leadership institute. Mm-hmm. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Ah, they mean me. I think he knows James O'Keefe. But he's not there. True. He's just an alum of it. He went through the program. Right. People who work there, Alex knows them, which seems strange because I would generally think that people
Starting point is 00:30:51 who are serious would not be interested in Alex. If you're interested in the seriousness of political partisan politics and training activists and such, sure, Alex is far off to the side of that. But if you're interested in going viral, Alex is the mean machine. You got it. So Alex introduces Matt and he clearly shows some cards pretty fast. OK. There's a lot to unpack here. First off, tell us about yourself a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:18 And then the big response to this. And before you got your camera rolling, your phone rolling, what was he saying before you got your phone on? Well, thank you so much, Alex, for the opportunity. My name is Matthew Hurt and I'm the chairman of the Arlington County Republican Committee in Arlington, Virginia, where 80% of my neighbors living in dead voted for Joe Biden. Here you can see Matt giving a cute, winking first glimpse at the fact that he believes that dead people voting swung the 2020 election.
Starting point is 00:31:49 This is important because it tends toward painting a picture of what that initial interaction between Matthew and this annoying Democrat might have been. We have no video of it and Matt is a slick, well-trained media operative so I'm not going to blindly take his word for it. I wouldn't be too surprised if he made some snide comment about dead voters or stolen elections hoping to set someone off. It's also possible that the guy in the video is just a bit of an asshole. Maybe he was having a bad day and it all happened unprompted.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I've just watched how right-wing media operates for too long to take it face value with some shithead tells me happened before the camera started rolling. Yeah. I have no interest in taking that like as given. Especially whenever this is the media presentation that this guy has like right out the gate, just immediate timing, smooth, like all of this is easy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah. This guy is media ready. Yeah. He is talked into the mirror. He said this over and over and over and ready. Yeah, he is talked into the mirror. He said this over and over and over and over. Yeah, he is as annoying as a fingerwagger of 100%. So he tells this story of what happened before the video started. Okay. And this is, I don't know, his take. What you don't see in the video is he actually walks toward me at the beginning of the interaction and I offer him
Starting point is 00:33:05 a Republican sample ballot. He then flies into a rage for two or three minutes, very similar kind of conversation that you see in the video. And then he goes into vote, Alex, and it's at this point that I realize he's going to come back out and he's going to do the same thing. So I took my phone and I dropped it in my shirt pocket and I hit record, like you said, and I waited for him to come out of the polling location and sure enough, the entirety of the video, about two minutes on Twitter or on X is actually the second interaction, the second encounter I had with him.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I had this interaction with him and then he went into vote and I realized this is going to be good. Yeah. I've a star roll it. Yeah, I really. I'm going viral. I really, I really took it to this guy and then I gave him a Republican ballot. Like he specifically asked me not to do. Then he went in there. He tried to vote on it, realized what had happened, came out and was it even more of a dick.
Starting point is 00:34:00 No, I don't, I didn't get any sense that he accepted the Republican sample ballot from the guy. Well, I mean, it just seems like when he comes out of the, why would you keep going after that? Hmm? Uh, I don't know. No, but that's what I'm saying is that there's something that's not quite right. And it doesn't make sense. It is entirely possible though that the guy is just like, kind of not, not, like, not cool. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Sure. But if you're going back for seconds at a polling place, you got to want it. kind of not, not like not cool. You know what I mean? Sure. But I mean, going back for seconds at a polling place, you got to want it. Right. You got to want it. It feels like something has to incite that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Because you could just, it's so easy to walk away at that point. Yeah. Now hold on a second. I ask you this question. If he is still in the, if he's still voting, we have the phone going into the pocket, the record button being pressed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Did we get him walking to the, because I feel like the video started in media res like in the middle of the guy talking. It did. Right. So if he started the video before the guy came out, right, then there is extra video that we did not see. Yeah, I'm going to pause the recording right now
Starting point is 00:35:10 and I'm going to find the raw. Go. So from what I have reviewed the raw footage. Sure. And it does start in media res, but also it's him walking up to him. Okay, okay. So it is both.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Okay. I don't, I think the timing is pretty remarkable. You might have cut out the part where he's putting the phone in his pocket and giggling to himself about how he's going to record this guy. Does feel like there's that might be missing from the raw footage. Yeah, it doesn't, there's not an exchange that it happens in the second encounter. Right. That's been cut out or anything.
Starting point is 00:35:42 All I'm saying is that when you put your phone into your pocket, it is recording outwards, right? So you can't press the record button while it's in your pocket. True. You have to do it from outside the pocket, then put it in the pocket. True.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah. So you need to see the insertion into the pocket or else it's all, it's all fake. It's a deep thing. You're taking it out of context. I think, I guess one of the things that I keep coming back to that makes me just really curious about this is like, nothing happens. No.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Like, if this guy was really mad enough to do all this, like, how did he do anything else? He doesn't even really yell at him. I know. He's got a very measured, again, I'm saying this is just terrible work on his part. It's a little bland. Yeah. So the mission of this is to be like, this is who liberals are. Well, I mean, so bummer. This is what unhinged progressives and leftists look like in places like Arlington, Virginia, in places like Austin, Texas, in places like Memphis or Nashville, you know, these urban centers across America where they don't really like to have opposing viewpoints in their
Starting point is 00:36:54 communities. And as the chairman of the Republican Party here, I am very outgoing and I'm very friendly and nice to a lot of my Democrat neighbors and they actually like to talk to us. They like to engage us on policy, but occasionally you get somebody like this who just does not want a city of thought in this community. So there in your community are the chairman of the Republican Party, you're naturally known, a recognized grassroots organizer and public speaker. I've seen your work for years and you're just out there calmly handing out brochures, talking to people. And I figured that's what happened because we didn't talk before you came on.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You just agreed to come on. It looked like he'd already confronted you and he was coming back for more. I noticed that's something they do, too. If you're polite to them, they seem to enjoy that. And then want to bully you. Sometimes they wait till you try to leave. That was bullying. That was bullying.
Starting point is 00:37:43 In some weird ritual. I don't know, it borders on bullying. I, let me say this, all right. Words have to mean things. That is not unhinged. That's thoroughly hinged. It's, it's pretty him. That's thoroughly hinged.
Starting point is 00:37:58 As a, as a connoisseur of unhingeditude. Right. Yeah. It's a bit extra. Is that right? Maybe, maybe. I mean, it's a little bit, it's a little bit more. I don't know how to use slang. Right. Yeah. It's a bit extra. Is that right? Maybe. I mean, it's a little bit. I don't know how to use slang.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I mean, he said fuck more than once. So it's all rated. That's what you, that's as good as you got. Yeah. Yeah. It's on a becoming language. It's on becoming. That, if that is what you're gonna come at me with,
Starting point is 00:38:20 oh, the unhinged left is unbecoming. Yeah. Then get the fuck out of here. It's a little, it's a little bit. Go back, bud. Soft. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So, but that's the goal here. Is you take this guy, this one example, I'm like, this is your enemy. Right. This is who the, this is the embodiment of all, like, so this happened over and over and over again throughout various campaigns. Like 2016 was lousy with Ohensroyer going out and finding some liberal at a rally that
Starting point is 00:38:52 he could be like, this is who all the Democrats are. Let me throw this out at you. Maybe we're making a huge tactical error. Right. Maybe we need to send out some truly unhinged people. I'd like to see them deal with that. You know, like, because here's the deal, right? If I'm a conservative, I'm listening to this guy
Starting point is 00:39:11 call these people unhinged and I go, well, oh no, I'm so scared of the left, right? I'm not afraid of that. They're trying to make it a big deal, but what I'm not afraid of is these Democrats or what? Are you not afraid of being scolded? No, no, no, no, no no no scolding finger wagging not a problem hmm especially not when I'm hearing a lot about guns from other people what
Starting point is 00:39:32 about uh... finger gun wagging finger gun wagging is that now that's bullying so Alex wants to know what happened in the first encounter and i have to say i am of the same mind yeah i would like to know good call Alex is for more fodder, whereas I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. What were some of the things he said just for memory in the first confrontation? You know, and I have filed a police report that I am pressing charges in this interaction. There is a allegedly a track record, the best gentleman, of disrupting political activity. Allegedly in 2018, he was on the White House lawn protesting Donald Trump from within the gates, the White House lawn.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And so I learned via online yesterday that he has a long track record of this. And I think it is important that he be confronted with these transgressions and and his outrageous activity but the the conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in that in the in the video so you can see that's slick training kicking in there that's media shit yeah he doesn't really have much to say about the initial interaction and the
Starting point is 00:40:38 interview kind of deescalates if you just answers this question with that's more the same so instead math you answers the question he wanted Alex to ask him, which is, tell me you're dubious speculation about this guy. Yeah. People on Twitter will figure out who they thought this guy was and they might be right. They might not. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:40:56 There's a, there's a fun trick that Matthew's playing there, though. You can, you can see with his characterization of this guy. He brings up the idea that this guy allegedly protested at the White House and that he should be, quote, confronted for his transgression and outrageous activity. Obviously, this is not something Matthew actually cares about. It's trolling meant to make excuses for the people who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. This is this is just shithead trolling. Let me ask, was that the one where Trump ordered the cops to like fucking beat the shit out of people so he could do the Photo up with a bible it might have been I'm not sure ironic to use that one as the these frothing at the mouth liberals
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, but this is all a game from Matthew You can see in the way he carries himself that he's choosing actions carefully to elicit a certain response He wants to poke and prod like his boss wearing a purple bandaid at a carry rally until someone has a response that he can fake outrage about. This is a childish game, but it really does work. And being aware of it is very helpful to not fall into it. Yeah, yeah, the thing that confuses me though,
Starting point is 00:42:02 about all these hacks, I mean, like these specific hacks. Like, you're, come on man, you don't sound outraged. No. You don't know how to sound, you don't know how to fake actual rage. You know, like that, this is all very, very prepared, but it's also somewhat monotone, you know? Like, he's not, I'm not feeling him being like,
Starting point is 00:42:22 and these people are out here doing all that, like he's, the unhinged left is going it like that's yeah That's weak T because it's it's meant to capitalize off someone else's outburst. Yeah, that's just the the name of the game It's be a shithead be Annoying and offensive. Yeah, and then when someone's offended or annoyed, be like, what's wrong with you? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 They did learn a lot from nine year olds. Yeah. Yeah. Nine year olds were really revolutionary in their movement. Yeah. Conservative movement is, yeah. So he pivoted to smear this guy. And then he's bought himself enough time.
Starting point is 00:43:01 So we get to hear what actually was in the initial interaction. But the conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in the video. You know, I'm an insurrectionist and all of these things, all of the things that you might think, whatever you, Alex, or your viewers think a progressive would say in a community like Arlington, he said it. And it was a comedy goal if it wasn't so scary because there are people walking around this community here in Arlington who are deeply, deeply disturbed. Here Matthew employs another really sneaky trick.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Instead of offering specifics about what the guy said to him, he suggests that Alex's audience should imagine what they think an unhinged progressive would say, and that's what he said. Matthews allowing the audience his imagination to dictate reality, which isn't a particularly honest way to go about things, but it's very effective for the purposes of the propaganda he's engaged in. This guy not only said all the things you imagine he said, he's also super scary. He's really scary because the left wing people out there are so terrifying.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Just do not know that the Unite the right rally was in Virginia. I mean, I just, I just, if this is what you're trying to sell me as scary, we've just got two different lives. We've just got two different lives. Does he not know that earlier this year, a guy wielding a baseball bat attack staffers at Virginia Democrat Representative Gary Connelly's office? Like, this is nonsense. But you have to choose a side to be afraid of I think it's pretty clear. We're sure sure, but that's only that's just physical
Starting point is 00:44:30 All right, this this cuts to your bones the scolding the scold if you ever been fingerwagged Listen, I've been hit by a baseball bat. Mm-hmm, but fingerwagon step too far. Yeah step too far won't you think of the wag? I will there's there it's dark start down will. There's there. It's dark. It's dark down there. So here's what Matthew's really all about here. Yeah. He wants to convince Alex's audience to vote GOP. Yeah, well, that's fine. Yeah. Alex, I understand a lot of your viewers are skeptical probably of Republican party politics. I jokingly say I am the establishment in my committee. I was a Ron Paul delegate in 2012. I supported Ron Paul.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I went to the convention in Tampa, and I've been a pro-liberty activist my entire life. It is so important for your listeners, your viewers to get involved in these processes and to join us because what I found last night, last night at our election night party, a woman came to the election night party She said I worked as a political appointee for Bill Clinton and it took me 20 years But I was wrong and I'm ready to join the Arlington County Republicans and make a difference as a Republican
Starting point is 00:45:38 So we have an opportunity in Arlington where again like I said 80% of my neighbors living in dead most of them They voted for Joe Biden. Most of them are federal employees or auxiliaries. They work in some tangential relationship to the federal government. So they are biased toward the left, or toward progressive or leftist ideology. Or their paycheck.
Starting point is 00:46:00 There's a real opportunity here. And I tell people I'm the kid in the room full of horse manure saying there's gotta to be a pony in here somewhere. It's got to be. So I think that they would be biased towards left wing ideology if you mean a government existing. Yeah, I mean, is left wing ideology their job right? Like if you're, if your belief in the appropriate thing and the way things should run is like
Starting point is 00:46:22 Ron Paul shit where it's like let's dismantle everything. Yeah. Then yeah, I think most people are pretty far to the left of you. I mean, yeah, you don't even have to have too many complicated policy positions if you like, okay, the guy on the right says he literally wants to cut my job. So I in order to keep my job, I have to vote this way. I must retain the government for my job. I guess I am pro-democratic, mainly because I have to work.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah, but see, he paints this as like issues and policies and stuff. And it's like, no, no, no, you just don't like the government existing. Yeah. Yeah. That's what these leftists are. So many sales classes. Yeah. I hear in his like sales pitch, all that like that institute if fucking scary now
Starting point is 00:47:10 I'm scared of them. Yeah, see that's it's a scary idea. Yeah Especially because the diversity of weird shitheads that have come out of it. Yeah, I know. I mean, that's wild But the other thing too is like this is a voice that is But the other thing too is like this is a voice that is not going to land. No, because what he's doing is essentially being like, hello, I'm a nerd and I'm a part of the establishment. I mean, he is 100% doing exactly that. Now granted, I liked Ron Paul, but now here I am in the Republican party and the waters are great. You should come in, Info Warriors. Use your extremist numbers to bolster our votes.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And it's like, they're not the ones who are going to vote. GOP are already going to, right. You're not going to sway a ton of people. And the other people are not going to come. They're probably just not going to vote at all. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Trump or nothing. Baby, yeah, they're really, there's no like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Here's a thought that I had. What's that? Okay. So did you see any of the debate? And the other geocort debate no Vivek rhymes with cake Come on. Why would I watch a GOP debate? He did a lot of grandstanding I did read that and I find this disgusting. Yeah, this is the media once again failing to learn a fucking thing about god damn Anything yes, but the fact that I read, oh the Vic was to build a wall on the Northern port, fuck you, you're all fucking stupid. You're doing it again.
Starting point is 00:48:29 You're all fucking stupid and you should be ashamed of yourself. Yeah. As shamed of yourself. That was a big thought that I had as well. Pussed that it. Yeah, pussed. You learn nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have failed us. Um, but the second thing that I thought. What's that? Is now the GOP exists essentially to be a punching bag for people. Yeah, like they attach themselves so strongly to Trump that now You need of demagogue figurehead in order like you look at that stage and all those dorks don't have a chance Oh, no, probably the only person on that stage who has a chance that he doesn't have a chance I'm telling you I'm telling you it is going to happen It's going to be thinking hailey
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's gonna happen. No jump is gonna go to jail or Ineligible to become president to Santa's is already lost cuz look at his stuff stupid fucking face No, but they can't fuck out of here. Nikki Haley is really all they've got left. And this once again proves one of my core beliefs. The first female president will be sold to us as a Republican. But then you think it's also comfortable. Everything is just sunny. Here glass breaks. Oh my god. Oh my god. What's on its ramp? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, man, that would be fun. That would let's get a cocktail for a hot over surprise. No, I just, I got this overwhelming feeling that it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:56 the Republican party does not matter anymore, really. Right. It's just there to be co-opted by whoever's going to be the biggest shithead. Yeah. Like, that's the model now, because people are pretty, you know, generally from what I've seen, pretty excited about Vivek and his antics of the GOB. Like, these debates, not enough probably to sway the needle on him as a candidate. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:50:17 But that kind of behavior is what they want. Yeah. Out of a white guy. Yeah, exactly. That's not go too far. Right, the bank. You know where you are. So it's just it's interesting to me that like I was looking at that stage and I was seeing people who I think might have wanted to have a debate. It's so funny to me that like you think that's possible now. You
Starting point is 00:50:42 did this to yourselves. You shot yourselves in the foot. Your party is this now. Yeah. Yeah. The only problem with that really is that that is so unsustainable. Yeah. It's gonna take the rest of us down with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah, sucks. It sucks. I mean, it does feel, there is a certain amount of smoke of if you got them going around. They've been getting out of them. Every time I look at the at the news. Yeah. Mm hmm. So Matt is asked why this video and viral. And I would say because I am well connected to many media figures who helped me make it
Starting point is 00:51:19 happen. Yes, basically, this answer is we asked her to her. He did. basically, his answer is we asked her to her. You did ask her to survive. I think that, you know, being there and having the
Starting point is 00:51:30 presence of buying to film it and then to immediately get it online, you know, if you think about it, this happened at 9 AM Eastern yesterday. It was up by 9 10. And so as we go into the news cycle and a program like this,
Starting point is 00:51:42 producers and reporters are looking for stories. I'm pretty well connected in the conservative movement with reporters and with others. He literally said that. And so friends of mine pushed this out. It's got over 11 million views now from my own Twitter account today. Yep, we asked her to turn that shit. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I was shocked. I was expecting a lie. I was expecting a lie that he told the truth is fair Yeah, yeah, all right, move artificial ass shit. Yep My friends to make it go viral. Yeah, and then they did I have very powerful and well-connected friends and media and Yeah, and I'm no globalist. I'm just well connected in media globally. Yeah So Alex decries the left wing violence Oh, oh, like the finger waggers. Yeah. And then other things. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And I guess we've learned the name of this individual, but he's more of the leftist quote, intelligentia. Their foot soldiers are antiug. And in many parts of the country, Republicans get head over the head with baseball bats here with concrete blocks or pepper spray or sometimes even you shot in the back. And the media base never comes up. I mean, Rand Paul has his ribs broken by a neighbor that hated him and his lung punctured and has been attacked. Many other times he got shot at when other Congress and police almost were killed by the range killer. And I remember when that guy drove from Illinois to shoot up the Republican baseball game
Starting point is 00:53:13 close to you there in DC, Wolf Blitzer said this guy was not a monster, he was angry. I'll never forget that quote. So these guys, they're really the ones dealing the violence. The most peaceful protest trying to frame us as hyper violent as Alex trying to suggest that the media didn't cover that shooting or Rand Paul's neighbor kicking his ass fill that silly i read a lot about those a lot
Starting point is 00:53:35 mhm it's worth noting that all of the stuff Alex says is alive Rand Paul's neighbor wasn't politically motivated violence those went as long and we've talked about the wolf blitzer thing in the past, but I think it's worth revisiting because Alex says he'll never forget that quote. It's not a quote. It's entirely made up in Alex's imagination in order to justify his bullshit narrative that the media supports people who carry out violence against the right wing.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Wolf was interviewing a friend of the shooter who said that he wasn't evil. Wolf is actually pushing back on that. You know, it's interesting. Phil has clearly he was evil. And I'm March 22nd. And as you point out, he posted this on Facebook. Trump is a traitor. Trump has destroyed our democracy.
Starting point is 00:54:15 It's time to destroy Trump and company. And then he said Republicans are the Taliban of the USA. When you say on a Facebook post, it's time to destroy Trump and company. That's a threat against the president of the United States. And that's a crime. Excuse me, Wolf was interviewing somebody who did a piece with the friend.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Right, right. He wasn't talking to the friend. Sure, sure, sure. But Alex is a liar, and he's using those lies to paint a picture that his political side is under violent attack and that the media supports it. He's doing that to scare his audience because that serves a couple of important purposes. One, the fear keeps most people incapacitated and unable to engage with critical thinking.
Starting point is 00:54:54 If you're in danger, it is not time to assess whether or not you're in danger. There is only time to give money to that loudmouthed coke head who's going to save you from the bad guys. Two, the fear intention that's built will inevitably have the effect of causing someone to take matters into their own hands and carry out violence against Alex's opponents, which he can call a false flag in order to justify and prove that his side is that much more under attack and create this tension and fear cycle that continues forever. And so it goes. For Alex, the truth isn't the truth.
Starting point is 00:55:26 His feelings are the truth. He feels like Wolf Blitzer supported the guy who shot Steve Scalise, and so he remembers fake quotes that attest to that. Sincerely, it's wild to imagine like how much of Alex's audience thinks that they're receiving news and analysis, and they're actually just dwelling on Alex's feelings. Simultaneously, it's why we think about how devastating
Starting point is 00:55:45 the consequences of Alex's feelings have been on everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not, let's not really unpack because I don't think anybody wants to. The idea that because of the vagaries of imagination that we've built a society out of. One man's fiction can override
Starting point is 00:56:09 all of reality. Or at least have a dramatic impact on it for a lot of people that has real world consequence. In the same way asteroids did around 270 million years ago. You're giving Alex too much credit. But you But, you know, there is voter fraud. Sure. All right. I'm sorry. Are we back there? Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Oh, okay. Fuck. It does exist. And Alex has an example. Well, by their yardstick, that is clear voter suppression, though, what he did to you. And of course, we see for how he wasn't voting. He was at the police working there. You'll catch the Democrats a hundred times doing it. It's swept
Starting point is 00:56:48 on the rug. Look what just happened. We're a convicted member of the city council got caught on all the footage stuffing the ballot box again. So all Democrats robbing Democrats, the judge shut it down. There's a new election. And there are a bunch of other examples that have broken around the country as well. And they're now catching them. I think that's the good news, which examples? This process, people say, well, there's so much election fraud, just don't vote.
Starting point is 00:57:15 No, keep voting, vote in higher numbers, have landslides, and then investigate it, and then force it out. And that's why they're panicking, trying to outlaw the idea of questioning elections. Sassing a guy handing out sample ballots is not voter suppression. Matthew wasn't a voter in that situation and the annoying Democrat guy didn't intimidate anyone around the idea of voting. That's a dumb argument.
Starting point is 00:57:36 As is the idea that people are trying to make questioning elections illegal. That's not happening. But it's still illegal to craft an elaborate plot to lie about the election and a conspiracy to overturn the results of it because you lost. That's not so much questioning as it is a crime. Alex may think that they're the same thing, but he's never been able to tell what questioning actually means. He's always had an iffy relationship with that. As for this thing in Connecticut, that's totally real.
Starting point is 00:57:59 But Alex has some details wrong. This is about Joe Gannum, who was mayor of Bridgeport from 1991 to 2003. Then he was convicted of charges ranging from racketeering to extortion to mail fraud, which got him seven years in prison. I'm listening. He was then released and reelected in 2015. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And he's been mayor ever since. Hell yeah. In recent Democratic mayoral primary, there was significant evidence of ballot stuffing at Dropboxes, so a judge ordered a new primary but according to the New York Times quote had no authority to postpone the general election in the meantime that means the general election will go on while the Democratic primary has not been decided while god i love the unit the thing about
Starting point is 00:58:43 America is our no backsees, our unspoken no backsees policy of like, okay, sure. Maybe they should have sat a Supreme Court justice, but it's too late now, moving on, bye. Like it's just moving on, just keep going forward. We're technicalities. So the evidence in this case rises well above the kind of shotty shit that folks like Alex and Dinesh D'Souza have presented about the 2020 election
Starting point is 00:59:07 Which is why a judge made an order like this in this case and all Alex and Dinesh can do is complain and then make tons of money complaining It's a real bummer because this actual case of fraud will be used by these shitheads to justify their own conspiracies after every single election from here on out But if you look at this as a movie, it's pretty comical. I mean, it is pretty. This mayors like a cartoon character in terms of corruption. He's Ben Gazera in Roadhouse. It's 100% this. He brought a Wal-Mart to Bridgeport. It's so much that. It's so. Oh my God. It is remarkable how there can be stories like that you've just not heard of. Yeah. You don't live in Bridgeport. You don't live Oh my God, it is remarkable how there can be stories like that that you've just not heard of. You don't live in Bridgeport,
Starting point is 00:59:47 you don't live around Connecticut, so maybe you haven't heard of the boss. The boss. That Tammy Hall 2023, yeah, I'm sure. Who got reelected. You know, that's just the way to do it though. I was reading a little bit about it, and he made an apology, and everybody's like,
Starting point is 01:00:03 I think you're trying to run again. Like when he got out of prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. And then he just sort of did campaign stuff, but without saying he was campaigning, and then all of a sudden he was campaigning. Yeah, you gotta go away to come back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It's like, how many countries, how many countries, especially in like Eastern, East Asia where it's like, all right, 30 years ago, we finally got rid of that monarchy now we've elected the son of the monarch we got rid of to become president you know i'll write so there's a democrats who have been telling Alex
Starting point is 01:00:36 i'm sick of this shit yeah sick of the democrats we look i know a lot of democrats uh... who are lawyers and prominent people and probably at dinner eating chicken fried steak. They like listen, I hate the Democratic Party and I hate all this, but if I don't stay in it, I will be lose all my contracts. Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub. I mean, I was that for a non-sense that makes sense to you and me.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub. I mean, yes. That is, uh. Is it, did nobody prepared us for this, right? No. There's no way that we could be prepared for chicken fried steak is the new hot tub. No.
Starting point is 01:01:18 That's just not possible. No, nothing in this world could prepare you for the moment that that happens. Yeah. Okay, good. Just to be clear that I'm moment that that happens. Yep. Okay. Good. Just to be clear that I'm not insane. Nor for this.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Okay. And you'd think it's demonized as I am in the corporate press that I would be getting tomatoes thrown at me or beer bottles. And that's happened a few times. And it was happening, you know, quite a bit when Trump first had elected. But now it doesn't happen. And so, knock on wood. If I happen to days, as I said that, but it happens very rarely,
Starting point is 01:01:45 this might dumps a coke on my head, or iced tea or coffee, or throws a bottle at me, or throws a bag of feces at me, like Antifa did and missed me and hit Owen. Ooh, that was like four or five years ago. That and jail. Yeah, that sucks. My wife and daughter, that's three of the children,
Starting point is 01:02:01 but their older and moved out now, it's old I am. Said, hey, I want pizza. And I'm like, well, I don't want to wait an hour for some delivery guy to bring it cold. I'll go get it where you want it from. I want it from here. I get there, I walk in, and the little check-in places right here, and I tell the receptionist here,
Starting point is 01:02:20 is my name, pizza. I'm worried there's a person. And there's a pie, my name is pizza. Just loaded with um I'd say middle-aged men and women mainly women it's just jam packed bars just bustling okay and a woman comes over she goes I used to be a lib tart oh but you woke me up another woman comes over she goes I was too and then another woman another woman I am spotted I was gonna say what are we doing something like that happens a few days before as well
Starting point is 01:02:47 so It's happening all over the place and then I'm walking out with the pizza in the salad and Another woman and man are walking in and they say hey, we used to be big liberals We love you. We're awake now. We're red-built. I mean I had Five people and I was and I was only waiting like a few minutes. Come up to me and once one came up more came up. That's incredible folks. That's in places like Austin, Texas and you know, or in places like Big Bend and just you don't matter where I go.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That's what's happening. it's a very very exciting time to be alive so I put it to you yeah his second example is Big Ben right what do you think the odds are that he listened to our episode from London I don't know do you think it's fresh in his mind that he went to Big Ben and people were very fans there it feels like that such a coincidence it's quite a specific It's such a specific it's such a specific for something that he hasn't talked about no God damn it. I don't like this. I don't like knowing things like this chicken fried steak is the new hot tub God damn it, dude! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You know, here's what I will say. The, he didn't, he neglected the name that the pizza place was called Mussolini's Pizza. Sure. So there were a lot more fascist leaner patrons
Starting point is 01:04:30 than would be otherwise noted. At first, for example, an olive garden. Or a, you get pizza in olive garden? Oh, I forgot. No, it was Italian. I was just going straight Italian. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. I have some thoughts about Italian food, but we'll get to them at another time. Yeah. So, um, Alex, this next clip is very offensive. Uh, and it's just Alex hating Muslims. I knew we were going to get to racism sooner or later. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're going to start the next hour. The first five minutes, I'm going to get more into Israel and the war and play this clip on Palestinian TV saying it's okay to kidnap and keep Jewish women as sex slaves and this is like a mainline belief. Then I'll show you Muslims mass murdering black people and I'm not trying to attack the Muslims here. I'm just going to show you what everybody's
Starting point is 01:05:14 doing, okay? Israel's doing a lot of bad stuff too, but just understand bringing in the Muslims. In fact, that's something I didn't get to. Israel wants to bring them here. I don't hate Israel, but you just take that rattlesnake, okay? I'm really mad about this, okay? This is a line in the sand, okay? You keep the little precious Muslims all right? They're right back stay with us. I'll ever wanted All I've needed is hate so the video that he's talking about there is from 2014 And it's not from Palestinian TV or Palestinian person making that argument.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Right. It's a professor from Al Azar, which is a university in Cairo. And again, it's a decade old. This TV appearance is actually super controversial back then because people did not agree with the point that she was making, which was that in a legitimate war, you're permitted to take people from the other side of slaves. Yeah. I'm not going to try and rationalize her position or anything, but I will say that
Starting point is 01:06:07 it is not a universally held belief as Alex seems to employ. Further, he's completely botched his sourcing and is pretending it's not almost a decade old in order to make it relevant to the ongoing massacre of Palestinians and create another position for him to have as opposed to dealing with reality. Right. Alex's position seems to be, I'm fine with Palestinians being killed because I hate Muslims and I'm starting to get mad at Israel because they're going to cause an increase of refugees that will lead to Muslims coming to the United States and I hate Muslims. Yeah. Seems to be about where he's at. That is, you know, it's a difficult place to be in because on one hand you say, well,
Starting point is 01:06:43 Israel's killing people and I like that. On the you say, well, Israel's killing people. And I like that. On the other hand, you say, Israel's sending people that I don't like to me. So if I say I don't want Israel to kill people, who am I? It's, it's, there's not more in depth analysis. No There comes no so Yeah, it's just hate. I mean it really is just hate. Yeah Who's gonna do so we have another guest that comes in oh really? Yep, this is Julie Mickiewicz. He planned a Maclady. Okay. She's back. She's back again and again, huh with Authority or what you would know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I don't know. Back with a vengeance. Back with a vengeance, yeah. Back with a head of steam. Die hard vengeance of the second go. She's something, man. Uh-huh. So one of the big things that is attempting to be conveyed here
Starting point is 01:07:41 is that Alex is trying to get her to say that the COVID vaccines had Ebola in them. That's what we're doing. Right. That's that's what we're setting the scene. This is the stage. Yes, there we go. That is that is one of the big messages. If I recall correctly, that was even the like title. Yeah, the title of the episode on info on a band dot video is Wednesday emergency broadcast, globalist spiking COVID vaccine with weaponized Ebola says top scientists.
Starting point is 01:08:10 All right. Which is not born out really by her interview, but she does bring up Ebola a couple times and kind of insinuating incoherentish ways, but enough for Alex to work with. Okay. Anyway, they're not gonna deal with much of that because she has some truly work with. Okay. Anyway, they're not going to deal with much of that because she has some truly bizarre positions.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Okay. Talk to us like we're not a super scientist like you that saw this decades ago and blew the whistle. What is the master plan? What are they doing? And how is it going for them? Because it seems like there is a big awakening and they've had to pull back some.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Well, the simple answer, I'm getting a lot better, I think, at understanding that and speaking that. But, you know, it's God against evil. Interesting. There isn't silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence.
Starting point is 01:09:02 It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. ever that gave you immunity according to God. And that's what I said in the first discussion with Mickey Willis in that first pandemic is lifelong immunity that your immune system never forgets what
Starting point is 01:09:17 it's seen. But what we've done with every single shot is escape the innate immunity, your skin, your nose, your ears, your throat, your nasal, pharyngeal cavity, the various aspects of the microbes that are by-rome, are microbiota given by God. Yeah, God gave you immunity. Vaccines are in a front to God. I, I mean, that is a position to take.
Starting point is 01:09:50 It is. That is a position to take. I would argue of many of the diseases that vaccines have helped eradicate. Yeah. God didn't do much for those. So we're those not part of our original, helped eradicate. Yeah. God didn't do much for those. So we're those not part of our original,
Starting point is 01:10:09 like if we didn't take vaccines back in the day, pre-figuring out cowpox or whatever, and everybody was dying of smallpox, do we not have an innate immunity to smallpox? And if that is the case, does that mean God wants us to die of smallpox? Should we have all died out? Should we have all died out? Because of that plague. Yeah. That we are in a defiance of God for having figured out a cure. See now that or a preventive now. Now we're talking. I'm willing to engage with that concept.
Starting point is 01:10:40 If she were to go into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Interesting conversation. But not gonna happen. No, because this really is more just about being antivacs and trying to shift the argument away from science stuff while still being like, this is what real science is. You're skimmed. Yeah, that's rough. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And that's a good story though. That's a good story that we were supposed to die out in a plague But we defeated God. That's what's going on behind the scenes God the globe God is actually trying to kill us because we didn't die final destination. Oh Man we figured out this world. It's all final destination. Oh my god Oh my god. I gotta sit with that for a while. No, this is gonna be rough. All right, well, while we think about that, enjoy Alex saying that the HPV vaccine was pulled.
Starting point is 01:11:38 That's not the right one. And then, uh, Judy, having to be like, no, it was. Somebody like Milgate, a eugenicity populationist, obviously you just look at him, it was a psychotic demon. Now with the HPV shots that we know, they had to pull years ago, because they killed so many people
Starting point is 01:11:53 and caused all these horrible autoimmune responses. Now they wanna try to make every little girl in America take it. Well, actually, they didn't pull it years ago. I mean, I know they still have it out there, but it's, oh, wait, what? It got rejected to a great extent, I remember. Well, it's on the schedule and in California, it's mandated in every little girl and boy. Well, you're the expert. Tell us what this thing
Starting point is 01:12:12 does. They pulled it. I mean, they some people didn't like it. I've talked about it negatively. That's what they got pulled. Well, yeah, that's that's some that's some classic backpedal in. Oh, yeah, yeah, that would do that at the leadership institute that kind of smooth media shit. That would that would give Steph Curry several hundred feet of space to work with there. Yeah, I find that spectacular while panic in the moment. I mean, there could be anything. I mean, people didn't like it. What? Tell me what does the HP vaccine do is such a great thing It kills so many people. I mean it is it is such a great thing to ask because the answer is there's like well
Starting point is 01:12:53 It's a vaccine against HP. It's it's in the name right, but you can't answer that. Wow. You can't answer the simplest answer Well, it turns out okay HPV is actually good simplest answer. Well it turns out okay HPV is actually good. There we go. Here's what I'm talking about. It may or may not make you immune to most cancer. HPV doesn't cause any kind of cancer. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. You know HIV no single virus causes you, anything if our mutual immune system. So you think about HPV, human papaloma virus, it causes war. I've got one right over my right eye now, and I've got a couple here,
Starting point is 01:13:35 and with sexual activity in college, is the first time that you'll be exposed to it. But we actually, that's what is happening right now. In 1990. What did she just tell me? Now, no, is HPV is in newborns. And it's part of that good microbiome. Did you give your baby HPV? What's the difference between self and non-self? By the way, it's funny you say that because I'm on a side of it's like you, but I've even read mainstream articles and studies coming on there 29 years, almost 30, found that when the child falls down this would happen to me in the playground
Starting point is 01:14:08 Oh God, and hits their knees and gravel. Oh, no And that that that the viruses are in the dirt and they found people that are infected with HPV or similar Work-causing viruses are then way more were Resistant to other viral cancers now. You're the scientist. That's what I've read. Is that true? Yes, because in the chair, we have microbes that actually digest. And I actually said that. The earth is vaccinated. Get the fuck out of here. Exactly. Immunizing us. Immunization is not vaccination. Well, that's how I got words was not sex. I got words playing baseball
Starting point is 01:14:44 and falling in gravel and cuts and you'd get a few of them. And then I read that once you have those word viruses, it makes you way resistant to cancer. Correct. And mo wow, because you saw a bit of war or I hate your body. Correct. If you're if you're natural, God is incredible. If you're is poison, Our food is genetically modified. Yeah, the reason this dirt thing doesn't work is because the ground has been poisoned by, I guess, chemtrails or some shit, you know. Some other conspiracy will explain why this doesn't actually work. That is a collection of words that I don't think have any connection to each other whatsoever. Yeah. We just listen to a lot of words that could be separate.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I was listening to it and I have a feeling when I listen to her that I'm like, I'm worried. Yeah. And like a lot of guests don't give me that feeling of like, I gotta leave the room. What else? I can't be around this. Yeah, what else?
Starting point is 01:15:40 No, there's a dark energy to this conversation. Where it is, it is a certain amount of like, what won't you do lady like? I'm scared of this woman Mm-hmm like in a in a real way. I want to be in a different room. You're totally right. Well, HPV vaccines Get rid of them. They don't do anything. You should have HPV anyway because then you won't get cancer There's just something about her being like I have one over my right eye right now I got that in college just like what how are you talking to me about this right eye right now. I got that in college. Just like, what, how are you talking to me
Starting point is 01:16:06 about this like this right now? Stop this. Well, she also doesn't like tetanus vaccines. And if she were to get her way, it would be devastating to people in the developing world. So medical doctors are trained to give pharmaceuticals, whether pills or shots. And that was the Rockefeller's in 1900, within 20 years, they just took over medicine.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Because it really was, it was even Western medicine before, what would you call medicine before they took it over? It was healthcare. When I did something stupid and ran over a barboi or a fence and cut my leg almost at half. I go home to my mom and say, shouldn't I get a tent? I worry about blood poisoning. She said, you should have thought of that. I told you to stay out of there. And so of course I didn't die.
Starting point is 01:16:54 But you know, we if I had she'd still be a great mom. There is no shot. There is no shot that is good or ever provided immunization according to God. Do they give you protection from a acute disease from a week when you're exposed? Yes, perhaps, but but again. Well, then the contaminants sterilize your cancer in my flavor. Correct. The chronic diseases.
Starting point is 01:17:25 So maybe more than a week, huh? Maybe maybe maybe more than more than a week, maybe quite a while. It gives you gives you immunity to stuff. I mean, look, I do have a feeling that a major driver of the anti-vex sentiment is a hate of people in the developing world. Yeah. I think that people like Alex on some level are aware
Starting point is 01:17:52 that should he get his way and all these vaccines be recalled, the people who would be hurt the most are people who are in the developing world. They would be dead in much higher numbers than already. Yeah. Are the case. Yeah. And I think that he understands that on some level.
Starting point is 01:18:07 And it's a, yeah, maybe. And I think that's mixed up in his politics too, because so much of the stuff that animated the right wing that he came out of has to do with like, we got to get rid of foreign aid. Yeah. Yeah. Why are we spending all this money on people in other countries and stuff? And if all those people were to die, there'd be nobody to send the money to.
Starting point is 01:18:28 It would, it would probably would solve itself from his standpoint. That is the way he would see it. Yeah. I think, I'm not sure that all of this is like an entirely conscious thing, but I'm fairly certain from enough viewing of his show that some of these feelings are mixed up in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And I find it a porous. There's, there's enough of a like, hinting towards it or an implication of like, and if this were to happen because that's just God and I'm happy with that and I'm fine with that and it's not really, it's not even me. I don't have to take responsibility for it. God doesn't provide any immunity according to the Bible when the vaccines were made vaccines have never given immunity According to God. What does that sentence mean it means that
Starting point is 01:19:16 God has never come out and said specifically that vaccines provide immunity. She she goes on to say that everything will be fine the vaccines provide immunity. She goes on to say that everything will be fine just so long as you don't inject or ingest anything that has like, we can't inject anything. And then you can't ingest anything that has like GMO stuff. Sometimes I like to imagine that if like we were on a boat, let's say human society's on a boat. And a boat is a different environment.
Starting point is 01:19:45 It is. You know, cramped. If we were on this boat, I think. We're surviving the raft. Totally. I think humanity, human society would maybe see this woman off the side of the boat. That's all I'm saying. I don't think she's going to make it past just the tetanus shot help.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Maybe when you get tetanus. I think that she would hurt your chances of survival. Yeah. I will say that much. Yeah. So you have one last clip. Okay. And it's also from the two of them talking.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Great. I'm aware that Mark Dice came in for the third hour to talk with Alex. Gross. But I don't care. I think there's something overwhelming about Judy's delivery that I just kind of was like I got it I got it out of here. No, it's really uncomfortable. Yeah, it's really uncomfortable So we have one last clip and it's Alex telling another fun story about his dad Okay, great which I cannot confirm nor deny you know my dad
Starting point is 01:20:40 Was a dentist, but he also owned a Hospital with some of his partners in in Mesquite, Texas outside Dallas. And I remember him ranting at the kitchen table about AZT killing people, how they were blocking the good drugs, the interferon, and then he worked with some of the doctors. And I don't want to make my out of here, but it's true. My dad was Dallas Byers Club. He was involved, given by the medicine. What? I love it. Here and all this when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:21:06 What? I remember getting the fuck out. I was watching a movie with him. I really got a movie with him, but when the town's fucked out. I came out like a decade ago with Magic Con he and where we were going to see a science fiction movie. And when the Dallas virus club came on, my dad started crying. And after movie, he started, he said, well, I knew that guy. I knew those people.
Starting point is 01:21:24 So it was just crazy how that's crazy It's crazy Alex's dad was involved with the Dallas buyers club. I mean They that that would be an interesting story and the timing would almost make sense somewhat But he's lied too much for me to even give a shit and pretend to pretend to care the timing wouldn't work out Really, yeah, I mean wouldn't work out really. Yeah. I mean, it would work out in as much as like,
Starting point is 01:21:48 it was like 1988, it was when that started. I don't know. I believe it was some time. Yeah, and that was when Alex and his dad would have been in Dallas. Right, that's all I'm agreeing to it. Yes. Alex would have been like 14.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I, at the time. Unacceptable. Like I just, I don't, I don't buy any of that. I don't buy any of that. And I don't buy, it, Alex's dad is not told in the truth about one fucking detail of his guy into their goddamn life. I don't know what Alex's dad is
Starting point is 01:22:16 because anything that Alex has told me is pretend. I found his dental degree, so I know he is a dentist. All right. Um, I found a property that he owns, like land holdings. So I know that he has that. I wish, there's one thing that I want. There's one thing that I want of this story and of that family, which is for him to have a sacred family
Starting point is 01:22:37 in someone in another state. That needs to happen. I just need that really bad. I know that he always says that he has a Korean adopted sister. Be nice if that was his dad. Oh man. From from another marriage.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Just someone out there, someone in someone in Maine, you know, just sitting there going, I'm Alex Jones's half brother and no one will ever know. No one will ever know. If that's a missed opportunity to really taunt him. Yeah, I know. Yeah. If you if you were that half-sibling, just really just send him race memories. You remember this one, bro? Yeah, this is what I got from our litigant. That would be the best.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Oh God, that would be great. And especially if you were older than him? Yes, yes, he has this whole thing about like the oldest son gets the race memories. If he wasn't, oh my God, that'd be too good. That would be amazing. It'd be too good. We just, the world isn't good enough for us.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Right, you know? Right. And I don't know if we've ever actually heard him discuss whether or not, like if you get an abortion, are you aborting the child that has the race memories? Right, right. Because if so, chaos. I mean his children are,
Starting point is 01:23:56 yeah, they're the types. They're the types. They're the types. They're divorced from reality. There's a lot to ponder here. I wonder if they can connect to God. I think they can. I don't know. God is acting real-weird lately, according to this show. Right. I think, look, if you ask me, I think everybody can connect to the God as they understand.
Starting point is 01:24:16 That's fair. All right. If you ask Alex, that's Alex. That's a, that's up in the year. Yeah. And if you ask Judy, no injections. No injections. Because immunity is only bestowed by God through your skin and your nose. But you know what's weird about the way she says that though, is that it's not a lot of things. A lot of things are wrong about her. That's that's I won't disagree with that.
Starting point is 01:24:39 It's that it is somewhat open ended. It's like God has never said that vaccines provide immunity. Right. You know, vaccines, nothing is ever provided immunity according to God. See, but the according to, I think you're taking in a way that I'm not. But you're saying that God was never quoted as saying. I mean, it is a little bit along those lines. But I think it's like by God's will. By God's according to see that's where we get into the issues of double entendre. Right. Yeah. It is it is complicated. Yeah. I I don't know man. I it's a rare it's a rare experience for me to really just get like I need to leave the room vibes from somebody, but she gave it to me hard. And the other thing too that is she keeps bringing up, uh, can't hack him lively.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Uh-huh. He's the guy who wrote Alex's books. Yeah. Because he also writes her books. Great. Uh, I assume that's a good connection to have. Yeah. And then she's like, uh, yeah, you know, you, uh, you always give a brain force whenever he's, you know, you take a brain force whenever he starts working on your books. Don't do this. And Judy even says, when I read your book, I would take a brain force and I was like, wait, maybe that makes it make more sense.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Maybe there's something about being high on brain force that like these books start to be good. Oh, okay, so maybe it's not what's being written. It's what's being written between the lines so long as you are high on brain force. I'm starting to suspect that maybe there's shit in invisible ink that you can only see if you're on brain force.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Maybe what happens is when you're on brain force, you don't turn the pages, you open the book to the middle and then you enter in. Right. Yeah. You remember that I was at in the bad shit, that weed movie that covered John Stewart. You ever do this on weed? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Dave Chappelle. Half bagged. Yeah, yeah. It's just that with the brain force. Yeah, it's just that. Yeah, what have been good if I could have remembered the names of things? Yeah, well, it happens.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Ah, chicken fried steak is the new hot tub. I don't know if we're ever going to live that one down. Nope, nope. It's the kind of thing that if we were a different show, we'd make shirts. But oh well, that would be the most, yeah. No, anyway, we'll be back for another episode. Uh, button tell then Jordan, we have a website. And indeed we do it's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter We are on Twitter. It's at now the gender score fight. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm neo. I'm Leo. I'm DCX Clark boom
Starting point is 01:27:16 boom boom Bump that's a heartbeat. No Yeah, yeah And now here comes the sex robot. Andy and Chan's a sheer on the earth thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time color of a huge fan. I love your work.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I love you.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.