Knowledge Fight - #875: The Most Important Man In The World

Episode Date: December 9, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in the experience that is Tucker Carlson interviewing Alex Jones.  While it may not be as drunk and enjoyable to watch as when Alex has been on Rogan, it definitely still gets racist and weird.

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Historically tried to all right I generally have listened to podcasts on stitcher as I have mentioned in the past yes, you know is commercial free podcasts on Stitcher. As I have mentioned in the past, you know, commercial free of these these here shows. I was your jam. And I've had to make the shift over to podcasts with commercials. And I have to say we made a decision when we were doing the show that we'd never have ads and all that. What wrongly, but from a financial perspective incredibly wrongly real big waste on our part a lot of missed opportunity huge mistake Way way terrible idea, but from the standpoint of somebody who likes podcasts and listens podcasts I listen to it and I'm like I could not handle the idea that the thing that I make is being randomly interrupted by this shit Anyway, my bright spot is

to make is being randomly interrupted by this shit. Anyway, my bright spot is. They're usually these brands of like, you know, meandies or whatever you use. Sure, sure, sure, sure. There's the podcast hits. Yeah. And there are things that seem like a lot of the time there's stuff that's like, this is our main advertising

strategy. We're just gonna funnel money into this. Right. Um, I've, I don't, I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I've heard multiple ad reads by the hosts of podcasts for Reese's peanut butter cups. What? Who needs to advertise Reese's peanut butter cup? Who is forgotten? What new generation is unaware right? It's so bizarre like it's wasteful It's weird enough that they have like those commercials with like will our net talking

That's wasteful. It's weird enough that they have like those commercials with like will our net talking Oh, no, that's a you gotta take a bite out But like to have a podcast and have the host do like a live read of like yeah, you know what if you're looking for candy No, it's beautiful. I'm good. I'm that fucking You should have to there should have to be a rule that if everybody already knows about your product your advertising budget Has to go to like feeding people. It should. That's the, like everybody, like if an Oreo advertises fuck you, get the fuck out, get the fuck out of here, you're Oreo!

But it makes me wonder if Zoomers have lost touch with the peanut butter. They have not. Not? I defy a zillennial to not eat a fucking Reese's beef. I feel like the Zoomers are into the take five They're like a more complicated candy. That's that is my new favorite Zumers zoomers are into the take five. That's what they are. That's what the kids are at. That's where they are now I'll be honest. I like take five, but I just thought I

The first time that I heard it I was like, well, that's weird. Yeah, and then the second show that I heard it on like Why are they doing? It's very stupid. What would act what exec was at that place going like oh here's what we do we need to boost sales old man Reese's I mean what a Tap a new market Like somebody finally Tapted old man's shoulder. It was like, Hey, man, did you know that podcasts are happening radio whenever you want?

If if there weren't those like commercials with Will Arnett that are on TV, Yeah, I would think like well, they just had to scale back their budget and like this is Trying to make the best of that situation part of a whole package integrated. Yeah top down Part of a whole package integrated. Yeah top down. Oh, my bright spot is I recently got happening? Why not just doing a lot of catching up on the shit. You know, oh, remember the old days. Oh, references to that old stuff. Yeah, if you're looking for like information, don't go there.

No. But if you're looking for having a good time, that's what we were there for. It's not gonna bro down, that suburban comedy. Just suburban comedy. And years ago. From 10 years ago No, no cuz here's what I was thinking about cuz I was listening to I was listening to what it happened was

Right, so open my eagle a quest love we're talking about that, you know like 96 to 2000 arrow like that's when that shit's popping up You know, sure sure angel. Oh, you got voodoo. You got all Erica badu is when it you know like that It's like that but in suburban comedy right talking about various open mics and Names of people that even folks in Chicago comedy don't know I remember that time Kyle Knaim was there. That's the tenor of most super companies. I thought you were gonna say Kyle Paris. No, oh no, those are different stories. Those are different

stories. So, oh, yeah, but it's a really enjoyable time. That's wonderful. Yes. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and we're a little bit late on this upload. That's because there was a little bit of a turnabout yesterday. We were recording this on the morning issue of Friday. And it's because last night, Tucker Carlson, the most important man in the world, released an interview with Alex Jones. Man, man, oh man. I mean, I knew it was coming eventually. Sure.

Because Alex did say that one of his work vacations was to main to visit Tucker. Right. And so you would have to be kind of foolish to not think like, they recorded something. No, they didn't make any content. It's they forgot. It's either made up or they did a video of some kind.

Right. So my instinct was that it was a matter of time before we saw this, but it's still a bummer to see it. I mean, it's a bummer all around. It sucks for the world because it's just Alex getting more promotion, which sucks. It sucks for Tucker because he's really really debasing himself in incredibly embarrassing ways. That's not good. And it's bad for us because quite frankly, as we go through the interview, almost all of it is stuff we've already talked about before. Like almost all of it is kind of Alex just trying to present himself in a good light. Yeah.

And it's not as exciting as like here's what I would put. This is a PR opportunity for us. Yeah. And it's not as exciting as like here's here's what I would put. This is a PR opportunity for out. Sure. In the same way that going on Rogan is a PR opportunity for him. Right. It's the chance to show himself to a wider audience. And Tucker's audience is full of weirdo crypto racists who are mostly fairly boring already predisposed to liking Alex sure Yeah, but they're mostly kind of boring. Yes, and so that's the kind of interview you're gonna get where is on Rogan You got a bunch of psycho knots and and druggies and weirdos There is that who listen to his show and so Alex comes in

Chuggin whiskey and and and being being really exciting and like having a showmanship to him, whereas in this, he might as well be half asleep quite frankly. Brutal. So it's not the most electrifying interview ever, but that's not to say there aren't things worth discussing. So we are going to do that here today. Yeah. I, you know, I wish that sometimes in life,

this would be the moment where people like Alex and Tucker would be in Maine and then like, you know, just like a discus, some sort of like, I agree with methodical, mythological event, hits them and it's just like fishing show. And then they just go and they record a fishing show out back, you know? Well, you remember. that makes sense to me

Well, remember an Alex is trying to pull the Alex Jones live shit. He had all these like ideas for shows Right you're out there get the painting show going you and Tucker That's where you do it right the outdoors is your canvas. Yeah, do a painting show Yeah, come on the fireplace Yeah, do a painting show. Yeah, come on. Come on. See around the fireplace. What the fuck have it?

Do something. Get out of whatever life we all live in and do one of your what frontier things, you know? As far as I'm concerned, there's literally only one exciting thing that happens in the hour and a half that they're, and it's forced. I'm amazed. Alex has brought a bottle of the whiskey that he sells. Sure. He sells whiskey.

We don't really talked about that much. He has a brand of whiskey that he sells. Yeah, I mean whiskey that he sells. Sure. He sells whiskey. We don't really talk about that much. He has a brand of whiskey that he sells. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Yeah. Like, doesn't it? It doesn't come up all that much in his coverage. Peyton Manning has a brand of whiskey. Who gives a shit?

They're everybody. Celebrity booze. Yeah, everybody has a brand of whiskey. So he brought it and it's like in a gun case for like traveling. All right. And he can't get it open. So he has to use a hatchet to open up the gun case and it's forced It does feel a little bit forced man

But there that's the only exciting thing that happens quite frankly the rest of it is just two idiots talking shit That's so stupid there and I bet they screwed up that bit too because the bit is good as long as you do it with your wide open face Just like up you don't even try like don't even try and open the case at all just like oh no this case won't open giant hatchet appears I don't know where I guess I gotta do you know like make it off telegraph that it's a bit well I think that Tucker's producers produced it better than Info Wars would have no that's fair I'll say that okay but yeah it's still leaves something to be desired. Anyway, we'll get down to business on this. But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new ones. That's great idea. So

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Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So, the interview itself starts with a shot of Tucker and Alex out in front of an outhouse outside. All right. And they're just like, ah, hey, this is the most dangerous man where it doesn't seem so bad. Whip! Uh-huh. And there's like, ah, hey, this is the most dangerous man, man, it doesn't seem so bad. Where? Uh-huh. And then it goes inside. There's a little sting, a little cold open. Oh,

so I don't, I didn't include a clip of that because it was meaningless. So like media literacy wise, that would be like the, the shot is to imply that Alex and Tucker are shitty i mean there you know that you could bring all sorts of layers of analysis to it i think you're supposed to look at them as outdoorsy and like maybe they just went hunting or something like that okay but whatever the case we start off with uh... tucker giving a little bit of a

preamble okay before he introduces out we have a ruling class in the United States defined by its hatreds, not its loves, not its hopes, but by its hatreds. They hate all kinds of people, large groups of people that deplorables the bitter clingers, America's entire blue collar population, the unfashionable people. They're hated by the people who run our country. But no one is hated more by them than a man

called Alex Jones. No one. That was over the top. The ruling class in the United States is not defined by their hatreds, and I have no idea what that would even mean. I, that just a bizarre sentence. Yeah, that is a very bizarre sentence.

In Tucker's mouth, what he's trying to say is that the man hates white people, but the way he's phrasing it just comes out confusing. That's really the subtext of what he's saying. If you don't imagine that he's speaking in some kind of cryptic code, what could he possibly mean? This is the point he's starting off the video with and it's bewildering.

Like, okay, so they're defined by their hatreds, not their loves, or their dreams or their dreams or I suppose The type of hot sauce they use I don't get quite where the okay, but like that would be like you know like Oh a person who hates to lose more than they want to win that kind of concept, you know sure But that doesn't apply to This idea of who of your death of what, you know? Sure. But that doesn't apply to this idea of what's defining you. No, and that's why it's confusing. Yeah, it's very confusing.

Yeah, because he's trying to be oblique about his racism. Why is it that every time we interact with Tucker, there is at least 15 different, like, minor writing things. Like, there's a writing instructor's job that's available. But think about this. At the end, he says, a man called Alex Jones. Is he British now? What is this?

Yeah, there's all of these layers, which is bizarre, in a sense. So anyway, Alex is really censored. And it's because he rattles the system. Oh, that's the system. Alex Jones is the single most censored man in all American history. He was the first media figure in our history to be completely erased in one day, de-platform. Alex Jones was de-platformed before it was a common term.

And not just de-platformed. Suit. Attacked. The attempts at you criminally charge him. What did Alex Jones do wrong? Alex Jones didn't rape anybody. He didn't loot maces. He didn't burn a police station.

He didn't invent a fake cryptocurrency and loot pension funds. He didn't start a pointless war that made this country poorer and more disorganized. He didn't open the Southern border. No, Alex Jones had opinions that deeply rattled the people who run America. In fact, rattled a lot of us. And I'll just confess that I first heard of Alex Jones when he questioned the official story behind 9-11.

And I, speaking for myself, was deeply offended by this. Oh, man. So you can see here already some of the elementary rhetorical tricks Tucker is going to use to whitewash Alex for the audience. The first is the confusing mixing up of all these consequences Alex has had for his actions. Alex was kicked off a bunch of social media platforms and that was because of his actions. You can argue that his actions should be considered acceptable speech and the platforms are wrong

to kick him off, so I'm going to be hyper generous and put this consequence in one basket. This is a case of corporate censorship seeking to protect advertising revenues by not associating with a toxic person. I'm going to put that as the most generous version of this, you can say. The second thing brought up is that Alex was sued. This was the result of his own actions, defaming the families of the victims at Sandy Hook. This was not censorship. It's a consequence of his behavior. And this is a point that's kind of important to understand.

If that lawsuit resulted in any censorship, that's Alex's own fault. If the families wanted to run him out of business so he couldn't hurt anyone the way that they hurt them, that's Alex's fault, not censorship. It may appear like censorship, but it's a consequence of Alex's actions. So this isn't another basket, which I'm going to call Alex causing his own problems. Then Tucker says that Alex was attacked. I have no idea what that means, and it's vague to the point of being meaningless. If he's talking about people criticizing Alex and his stupid ideas, then I think this

is just whining. If it's about physical attacks, then I'd be curious curious what those are because I can't think of anything. Alex got yelled at at a chicken restaurant and it became a weak's worth of content for his show, complaining about how he's the victim here, so I imagine if Alex was actually attacked in any meaningful way you would never hear the end of it. This goes in another basket that I'm calling meaningless. Then Tucker says that they tried to criminally charge Alex. I'd like receipts on this because I don't believe it. Also, how do you try to criminally charge somebody? Grand Jury's, baby. He was requested for testimony in front of the January 6th

committee, but he wasn't charged. There was no chance he would be. I would bet just about anything that he's committed, some crimes in the context of his bankruptcy, but he hasn't been charged with anything. The most accurate position here is that Alex has been given an undeserved level of lenience in his life. So this is another one that goes in the meaningless basket. Yeah. These are the things that the man has done to Alex, but none of it means anything. The most concrete, closest to real thing Tucker has is that Alex was kicked off social

media, and that was a corporate decision made to protect ad revenue. The rest of this stuff is either not real or the direct consequences of bad decisions Alex made because he knew that making them at the time would be profitable. This is all a lotus shit, but it's important for Tucker to present Alex as a victim right up front.

In Tucker's culture, it's important that all of the extremists that he platforms and sanitizes, they're just blameless people the man hates for no reason I was trying to I know you did you did your best. Yeah, yeah That's the mission of this intro and it's being done poorly and it's very transparent The second rhetorical technique that Tucker is deploying here is the barrage of culture war grievance touch points Alex didn't loot a macy's he didn't burn down a police station, etc. These are fun little shout outs to the stuff that excite Tucker's audience, but ultimately

are non-sequitors. This is nothing to do with the issue at hand, but Tucker needs to dress up this monologue intro a little bit, seems to play to the cheap seats. Yeah. He's good. Oh no, it's so amazing how silly it is when you just listen to the band because when you juxtapose the two of those, there's the part of me that goes, okay, okay, all right, so but which one, you know, like two separate lines of which goes to which, right?

Okay, this is what he did. They took him off social media. Did he start a war for no reason? No, ah, ah, but does that mean if he had started a war, that is the right thing to do, okay? So now we connect to the dots. Take off social media? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So now it's like, oh, well, he didn't steal from a macy's. Ah, but if he had stolen from a macy's, then it's okay to sue him. And then we connect the dots, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's a nice little thing there. Well, here's the thing is that like, you have one thing which is a barrage of like, you know, these grievances about other people, and Alex didn't do these things.

Exactly. But then the other pile of things are consequences that are supposedly being done to Alex. Right. And then the question is being asked, what is Alex's crime? What did he do? And when you don't actually assess like,

no, what did he do? Yeah, that's what I would like to know. Yeah, when you leave it as this open question, that's unknowable. The answer to this question is, it's so beyond my abilities as a journalist. What even is a crime? Right.

I can't possibly understand why people don't like this pile of human shit. Right. When you leave it, spoken like that. It's like, it's just a very elementary trick that we're trying to pull on people. So the, the, like the comparing, he didn't do all this in for a down, blah, blah, blah. You see that kind of tactic a lot. There's almost like an obsessive need in folks like Tucker to compare

your own people to the boogeyman examples that you've made of your enemies. And honestly, who cares if Alex didn't burn down a police station? That doesn't help me get a handle on his character, and it's not meant to. This is meant to remind the audience of who the villain really is. I know you've heard bad things about this Alex guy, but don't you remember all those terrifying macy's looters that we yelled about all the time? Yeah. In essence, what Tucker is doing here is trying to set as clean and a table as possible. Because on some level, he knows that the person he's interviewing is a monster and a lot of

people know it. He has to create an entirely fictional framework of who this guy is in order to even begin talking to him. Yeah. And, you know, good, good for him. You know, I'm, and I'm going to throw this out at you. Um, it should be visible to the person saying it, but they never is. It never is, but it should be visible that if the one of your comparisons that

you're making to make somebody look good is he didn't lie us into the war and I rack, which you did, Tucker. That's kind of the war in Iraq. Which you did Tucker. That's kind of the thing. I mean, you think. Granted, Tucker had much less responsibility than the actual architect of the war and stuff, but Tucker supported the Iraq war. I mean, part of this is just like- Go back and watch some of those crossfire episodes.

Like, you know, I'm relatively speaking. Yeah, most of us are not guilty of that sin. Sure. I'd say we're ball if that's your board. If that's your benchmark for like, Hey, until you do this, no one gets consequences, I think we're all fucked. I'm it's it is just a way of like, he's not the devil. I mean, criticism is impossible for me. Hey, it's not a useful argument. It's not a worthwhile argument, nor is it a valuable argument to have. But if somebody... It's purely to just make people more open to accepting this person,

who they know on some level is not cool. Right, right, right, but it is literally like, okay, fine. Until George W. Bush gets consequences for the war and I wreck stuff, then laws aren't real and nothing counts. And it's like, okay, fine, at least that's consistent. At least your benchmark is someone has to receive consequences. Well, if we take that as the standard, that's a little strange, because I would transition this slightly outside of the like language even of like

crimes sure like Some of the stuff that Alex is like whining about through Tucker the the consequences that he's faced are not legal consequences Right right right. They are not the things that happen because of crimes They are the things that happen because you're fucking asshole the things that happen because of crimes. They are the things that happen because you're a fucking asshole. And I think a lot of people could do a pretty decent job of filling Tucker in on why Alex is an asshole. Did he steal from Macy's?

No, and yet sometimes when he's outside, people don't like him very much. Right. Oh, okay, yeah, cool. So Tucker brought up there in the last clip that he resented. Alex's talk about 9-11. Sure. So he gets into that feeling a little bit more here. Okay. And I'll just confess, until I first heard of Alex Jones, when he questioned the official story behind 9-11. And I, speaking for myself, was deeply offended

by this. I didn't take any time to find out what he was saying, but I was bothered by the idea that this defining event in American history, which changed the life of everyone who lived here then, might not actually have unfolded as we were told it did. And that possibility was to destabilize it. And I remember feeling resentment toward Alex Jones for saying that. But several years later, I went up in Austin, Texas, and through a chain of circumstances wound up meeting Alex Jones. And I learned what everyone who has met him now knows, which is Alex Jones is not a crazy person.

Alex Jones has said pretty far out things on TV from time to time, not that far out. He hasn't said men can become women or Ukraine as a democracy, but within the bounds of, say, cable news, pretty far out. You can't said men can become women or Ukraine as a democracy. But within the bounds of, say, cable news pretty far out. You can see again, Tucker throwing out these right-wing culture war memes to keep the audience interested. Yeah. Transphobia and pro-Russia talking points. Keep the people engaged to keep them coming, Tucker.

Yeah. I'm actually fascinated by this retelling of Tucker's early feelings about Alex because it's not this deep. Tucker's brand back then was that he was a staunch neocon and a huge supporter of the Iraq war. Alex's position was insane. And in a front to the political wing, he was a part of. You don't need to have all this like emotional turmoil about the most important event in the US. It's a front to me. Come on. Let's just get up. Come on. Give it a little drama. Pretending you've gone to therapy

about your feelings about Alex. The fuck out of here. We've worked through it. I've started, I start most of my senses with I feel now. Right. You're going well. Also, you notice the Tucker is clear

that he just had a knee jerk reaction to what he assumed, Alex said back then, and then he didn't look into it. That behavior pattern hasn't changed, but his stance on Alex did because he happened to be in Austin and he met Alex. This seems to happen to a lot of people. They think Alex is out there and maybe crazy and then they need him and their tune changes.

I suspect this happens for two reasons. One is that people like Tucker aren't serious people to begin with and their perspectives are as malleable as aluminum foil. The second is that Alex is a narcissist and in small bursts, narcissists are super fun to be around. Their ability to carry on as they do relies on people liking them, so narcissists have intense levels of charisma, they can turn on to charm people when they need to. Folks like Tucker and Joe Rogan come into contact with this and mistake it for friendship. We're being a cool guy. And as to Tucker's point that Alex isn't crazy, if he wants to stand behind that,

I demand he rationalize a full episode of Alex's show to his own audience. Play the shit where Alex fake cries about God choosing him to vanquish the literal devil and see how well you can play this. He's actually a really well-adjusted person game. The fuck out of here. He's well-adjusted in the, like,

the version you want to present of him. Yeah. But not as he actually is. Yeah. I think what I'm, what I'm weirded out by now so much with Alex is like, as far as, as far as like Alex is concerned, he's not the front page anymore. Mm. The idea of Alex has now taken over completely.

So, so what people talk about, you know, at any time I'm hearing people talking about Alex, nobody is talking about, oh, here's what's happening on Alex's show. Everyone's talking about the proverbial Alex, the like theoretical Alex. Oh, Alex was the platonic ideal. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is literally like,

he is no longer who he is and is only an idea or a football to be tossed back and forth in the conversation. Much like Batman, he has become a symbol. He is a symbol and not even a good one. No, no. And the reality does not match what a version is sold by the people who like to use them as a symbol what would be the the big fat neck signal but we how would you how would you draw a silhouette of a neck i i think it would be and

i don't like that i like that i'll take that so i like predicts a lot of stuff sure oh god we're not doing this yes we are oh god yeah but fundamentally So Alex predicts a lot of stuff. Oh, God, we're not doing this. Oh, yes, we are. Oh, God, dear bet. But fundamentally, Alex Jones is right about a lot of things. And in fact, that's why they don't like him.

Alex Jones has an uncanny, really, an amazing ability to predict events before they happen. He has called it and he's done it on tape again and again. So the point where it's a meme on the internet. Alex Jones' profit, not conspiracy, not profit. But when you dig into Alex Jones' predictions, they are so spot on that it's remarkable. How does he do this? We're guessing there's a kind of spiritual sensitivity to Alex Jones, maybe that's his secret.

He was displaying this years before the average person is completely involved. Are you fucking with me? About matters like that. Now it's pretty obvious to most people that the current war going on in this country is taking place in ways you can't see it most of the time, but 10 years ago people are not thinking about it. What the fuck is happening?

Yeah, that freaked me out. We just can't, Cycchix are real, and also maybe the world is religion. And maybe there is a spiritual Battle between demons and sweet sweet. Yes. You know what here's a rattaker Fuck you Come on, man. This is this is this is not your brand get out of here Yeah, out of here. Oh, maybe it is the case that angels and demons are fighting in my back. You're looking Fox News and say, oh, God, we need to get a change.org petition to get him back in the bow.

Yeah, absolutely. This is ridiculous. Yeah, man, but like hearing that kind of stuff spouted by Tucker is either just a sign of how desperately he's trying to like make Alex look normal. Sure, sure, sure. Or it's a sign that maybe a lot of this is a bit more pervasive in extreme right ideology than we like to think. It may very well be that this is just the schema now. Yeah, I mean, well, I think it is... I think it's going to wind up being both.

Because there's going to be the thing that happens that goes both ways. So on the one side, you have the people that I've been having conversations with for the longest time where they're like, okay, I understand what you think about religion and all this stuff. But most people don't really believe it's real real. It's more of like a way to interact with all this stuff and all that stuff. And then I go, listen, I know what you're saying. Stop it. They do. And then, you know, but now we're in a situation where Tucker is starting to look like that. That's not good. That's not good. No, no, no, no. And it's really fun that, No, no, no, no, no. And it's really fun that, you know, you have people who are like arguing against social

issues on like all of these, these, this concrete reality kind of stuff and then they're like also demons are fighting. Yeah, I mean, just bring physiognomy back. I'm fine with that. It's ridiculous. My nose is a little bit off, so I'm probably evil. That makes as much sense as anything else he said so far. Coming next week on Tucker.

Yeah, right? So you remember, have Tucker said that he didn't look into Alex's positions on 9-11, and then just jump to a conclusion about them? Did say. Well, he's doing the same thing again when he's decided that Alex is super right about all his predictions.

We've been over this ad nauseam, but Alex is consistently wrong about everything. And he just points to a couple instances where he happened to say something that ended up Happening when he was right. It's meaningless when you just like, oh, I've got a couple examples here And most often when he does do that when he gets something right there's an explanation that takes away from the prophetic nature of his prediction And a lot of the times he's lying about what he said in the past in order to make it look like he predicted something. Because he's a psychic. So it's a mess.

He's one of the great examples of, and it is, it's one of those things that like in my mind it's, it's messed me up because it feels like this is the type of shit that exists only in the past whenever people hadn't dealt with it before. Mm-hmm. But you can just scream the same thing loud enough for long enough and then the world will believe it. That is a true thing that can happen sometimes. And Alex is an example of that. You can just scream a not true thing loud enough and long enough and eventually the world,

or at least a large part of it will go, sounds true to me? Yeah, and you can just have the world's shittiest track record. But if you create a little video that makes it look like you actually have a great track record, somehow people just ignore the fact that you're so wrong about everything all the time all the time It's it is wild, but I mean on some level you kind of got a tip your cap to sure the the manipulativeness of it Totally, but that is why you like read stories about like fucking God, I don't even know how far back you can go and you get the like the fucking

What the spider an Anasazi, the spider. You know what I'm saying? Like it goes back that far. Sure. Shouldn't human beings have been like, maybe we put a stop to this if the spider from Africa does it? Maybe. Okay.

So Tucker introduces Alex and they get right into, man, you're so right about stuff. It's just embarrassing. And so we thought it'd be interesting to sit down and talk to Alex Jones, the man. He joins us now in our studio. Alex Jones, thank you. Wow, Tucker, it's great to be here. Amazing studios, amazing. I mean, amazing people.

And this is really going to be, I think, a historic interview. So thanks for having me. Well, I'm really grateful to be able to do it. And it's just one of the great blessings of my life and of my job is that I've been able to meet people that I've had preconceptions about and sometimes find those preconceptions bolstered and in other cases demolished. And you're definitely in the second category. So I want, for people who've made it this far, the people around the country have really succeeded

in making you disreputable, and the whole point, of course, is people won't listen to you. So we thought it'd be interesting to start with a series of on-taped predictions that you made, some of which are so precise and so prescient that it makes the hair on my arms stand up. So it's here, and our viewers are about to see what I'm talking about.

Here is a list of things that you called ahead of time. By the middle of September that the new policies being written, you all have to wear mask again and show will airport employees. It's happening. Mask mandates are officially back. So we got one. This is absolutely embarrassing. Tucker is playing a compilation that Alex made himself from Alex's website of times Alex

was supposedly correct about stuff. No fucking clown just regurgitating Alex's masturbatory propaganda. Wow. Unbelievably just embarrassing. So that first one is Alex predicting in August 2023 that we would now have to wear a mask skin in September. It's now December and this prediction was not accurate. So that first one is Alex predicting in August 2023 that we would all have to wear masks skin in September. It's now December, and this prediction was not accurate.

However, Alex plays a clip of an anchor from the show Rising, discussing a story with the Kairan, quote, Atlantic College re-instates mask mandates for students and employees. This was a story about Morris Brown College, which has a student body of about 400 and is a private college. All of this sensational reporting around the story was flawed since it didn't point out that this was a temporary two week mandate and it was caused by a spike in cases

being found at the University Health Center. By the first week of September, about two weeks later, that mandate was lifted. This first example is not a case of Alex being right or predicting anything. It's an example of him talking the same shit he talks all the time and then pulling off a slight of hand trick where he juxtaposes it with an out of context news report that makes it look like he was right. Alex specifically predicted that all of his listeners and airline employees would be required to wear masks and that's categorically wrong.

So after prediction number one, hair on my arms remain unsteady. Yeah. I wonder if they're killing Tucker. Chilling. I wonder if the person who invented the Kairan, the like street, the on the on the news broadcast. I wonder if they're gonna feel good. You know, if there is an afterlife, do you think they, do you think they're gonna be like, ah, we did it or like, oh, we really may have run everything but movies. I think you can rest easy saying it's a tool and people who use it well use it well and people who don't know, you know, it's like a car. It's use a kai wrong to run over children does work well in movies. So we continue with this uh this uh uh greatest hits collection that uh

talkers playing. We know the joint Jesus staff wanted to blow up airliners, Baltimore Sun, or if you let some terrorist group drew it like the World Trade Center, we know who to blame. And if there was an outside threat like a bin Laden, it was a known CIA-ass-set in the 80s.

This group and his leader, the person named was someone bin Laden. He's the boogie man they need. So this is the part where Alex predicted 9-11 in chilling detail. I thought we were doing a list. No, no, it's just a video that's probably a list. It's a sizzle, really.

So if you pay close attention, you'll notice that there's some pretty strategic cuts being used here to create the appearance that Alex made a complete, fully accurate prediction about 9-11. But that's another parlor trick. The first clip is Alex saying that, quote, we know the joint chiefs of staff wanted to blow up airliners Baltimore's son.

This is just him talking about Operation North Woods, although at this point in his career he didn't know that name, so you just referenced it by pointing to the son article about it. The second clip is Alex saying, if you let some terrorists do it like the World Trade Center, we know who to blame. This is not him predicting an attack on the World Trade Center, he's referencing the 1993 bombing which he also believes is a false flag. You know he's saying if you let some terrorists do it like in 1993 at the World Trade Center, this is not saying the World Trade Center is going to be the target. The next clip is Alex saying and if there was an outside threat like a bin Laden who's a known CIA asset in the 80s. I'll give Alex this one, but I also

qualified as not being that impressive of a prediction because bin Laden had taken credit for the 93 bombing and wouldn't stop telling people he wanted to attack the US again. Yeah, I mean, that one is really always confused me a lot. Like I don't, I didn't like that after it was like what, 2008, it had been like five years after the war and I rack it already gone full blast whenever I was reading it is like whoa Been lot in the hit the world trade center a Decade before you didn't know that I don't think I knew that oh I didn't I'd nobody had told me that Like where I'd grew up that wasn't the type of shit we'd learned I did I don't know when it was that I became aware of that,

but it seems like something that I've known. I could not, I could not begin to describe why I, I was so floored by that, because it's, you had to have known, I had to have known. I like the moment it happened, I'm sure when I was in the thing. It was such a lesser terrorist attack. Sure.

In terms of scope and consequence than... No, no, no, no, it wasn't that. It was... No, never mind, it was Cross's album. It was the... David Cross? Yeah, it was... Shut up, you fucking baby. Yep, it was that album.

Yeah, when he was like, the dude, he did it before! Yeah. It's not a prediction! Comedians. Yeah. The historians of... Yeah, when you find out stupid shit. Yeah.

So pointing to Ben Laden as a possible suspect for a terrorist attack is not really the work of a prophet, but it's fine. You know, Alex is saying, you know, if you point out, if you blame Ben Laden, we know who to blame. That's as close to like something that is actually a prediction that Alex is making. Sure. These are not all from one cohesive thought Alex was putting out on his show, but when they're smashed together like this, it makes it look like Alex was solving clue.

It was been lawden at the World Trade Center with airplanes. That's the image that Alex's slick video is meant to convey, and it's the fraudulent image that Tucker is passing along to his audience. Another important issue to point out is that there's some discrepancy on the dates of these clips that they're being shown in this compilation. The original video says it's from July 25th, 2001, whereas the new compilation has a label on it for July 21st. I don't think there's anything suspicious going on here, I just think the people at Info

Wars are lazy and do bad work. Because it's right there on the screen. That date is important, though, because as we've discussed a hundred times, Alex Stoll is 9-11 prediction from Bill Cooper. Alex's show was on July 25th, 2001, but on June 28th, 2001, Bill Cooper started predicting a major attack would happen and be blamed on Bin Laden. If you go back and listen to Bill Cooper's show the hour of the time, Alex's prophetic skills look a lot less impressive because Alex stole a lot from Bill Cooper.

And this is one of the really big things. But hey man, Bill got killed by the police a couple months after 9-11. So Alex has had free reign to lie about him ever since. Yeah, that's a stroke a lot. And this is not to say that Bill Cooper was great or even that he had prophetic powers. He was a piece of shit as well.

But Alex did steal this formulation from him very clearly. Also, what I've not understood and I think this I assume that the interview will actually bear this out. That's what I assume this is for is fine. If you think that Alex predicted this shit, but to me, if you're going to be like, oh, well, this person should be heralded for predicting the future correctly. That means that they should then be able to tell me like, okay, well, if you're gonna be like, oh, well, this person should be heralded for predicting the future correctly. That means that they should then be able to tell me, like, okay, well, if the future's going to be this, then we should do this now,

so the future does not become that, right? That's the idea. Well, yeah, hold on to that thought. I mean, I don't think they're gonna get into that in the interview, but there are obvious implications that you can take away from the things that Alex is saying. Right. Like, you know, he's saying that there are all these military-aged men coming over the border. What's the answer to that?

Right. Expel immigrants and close the border. I mean, yeah. So like he has those solutions that are baked into what he's talking about. It's just those aren't usually articulated because they're pretty extreme things. Right, but I mean, what's the point of telling me? I just hate that. Like, you're letting the profit religion thing do so much work whenever what you're really saying is

because I like what this guy says, I'm going to make it sound like he knows what's coming. So whenever you do what he says to avoid what's coming, it won't sound like any. I think that there's, I think that there's a slightly different level that's going on. All right, we'll get into as this goes through. All right, so we get back to the compilation. We're looking at a giant war in February right now.

I predict the Russians are going to roll in. They're already there. They're going to roll in with attacks across Ukraine, which is the size of Texas. So it's been over this a bunch, but Alex is entirely wrong about this prediction. And a hundred others that he's made about the invasion of Texas. So, we've been over this a bunch, but Alex is entirely wrong about this prediction, and a hundred others that he's made about the invasion of Ukraine. When Alex said we're looking at a big war in February, the actual context of that was his fear about China going to invade Taiwan, which is why the clip is edited down so short.

Also, after Roger invaded Ukraine, Alex said that Zelensky was on Putin's payroll and that Ukraine would stand down immediately with the war being over within 48 hours. He's been wrong since the start and he's continued to be wrong, all while tooting his little horn about how he gets all this shit right. On one level it's kind of funny how someone who's so wrong all the time can't stop obsessing about how righty is all the time, but from a psychological perspective it's pretty sad. Alex is so desperate for validation that he has to lie about the things he said in order to make himself look right in hindsight.

I suspect he does this because the shitty says now is so crazy that it would be damn near impossible to get anyone hooked unless they're given constant abdignations to ignore their own instincts. Your inner voice is telling you that this guy fake crying about demons is unwell and you should not listen to him. What about all the times he's magically predicted all these major world events? Maybe your instinct's wrong.

Maybe you need to shut up with that inner voice telling you that this guy's nuts. Yeah. And that's part of the game that I think is why you want to make Alex out to be a prophet because there is such a hurdle to taking him seriously if you actually watch his show. Yeah, that's why when you kidnap somebody, you have puppies in the van,

you don't like jump out with a knife and go, ah, that's scary. Your instinct is to run away. Mm-hmm. But when you got puppies, you go, hey, there's some puppies and then they just come right in. Right. This is essentially the same thing. I'm a prophet.

Tucker Carlson is turning Alex Jones into a fan filled with puppies. Yeah. Yeah, yeah That's the goal and that's what Rogan was doing. That's the idea. That's the that's the the project Mm-hmm. So we we end this compilation and Tucker's just blown away by how great what a genius Those 9-11 clips are crazy. They're I'm actually bothered by the precision of them I'm not accusing you of being behind 9-11 But how could you? I am in July of 2001. Call that. You said they're going to have airliners fly into the World Trade Center and they're

going to blame a guy come all some call to some of the London. Leaving aside what actually happened. What how could you have known that? So if you're paying attention, Tucker has created an entirely fictitious prediction. Alex didn't say that, because of the manipulative way the clips are edited together, it makes it appear like Alex had all these thoughts strung together. Tucker isn't an idiot, and he's been in media for a really long time, so I have zero belief that he takes this shit seriously at all. He doesn't believe that Alex made this prediction, or that it means anything, but this is part of a game, and Tucker believes in that game. Alex is part of a vanguard of voices who are

pushing for the most extremely bigoted positions who retain the thinnest veneer of respectability, like you could get a more virulent extremist racist type, but generally they're going to be people who you can't get away with interviewing. Right. Alex has just the, he's right on the cusp of like, somehow you can get away with talking to it. It does feel like he is the new Mendoza line. Yes. Tucker is now part of a political project that's oriented toward reestablishing a brutally xenophobic country and tiredly ordered around cis heterosexual white male Christian people, maintaining a monopoly on power. And Alex is an important part of pushing that over

to the window. For many years people like Glenn Beck enjoyed a certain amount of cover because of Alex. They could say the most insane shit, and when they're called out on it they could say something like, it's not like I'm on Info Wars. Alex's existence as a clearly insane person in media allowed them to appear sane by comparison, which is a trick Tucker himself has used as recently as about a year ago. The season has changed a little bit now, and figures like Tucker are now in a bit of a more offensive footing. So instead of playing defense by throwing Alex under the bus,

the move is to sanitize Alex to your audience so the extreme horrible shit he says appears less extreme than it actually is. This shift in tactic is something that should be of pretty serious concern. Yeah. Because it's an indication of a desire to move in the direction of Alex. Yeah, I don't wanna, you know,

I saw Mark's tweet about how Alex can go fuck himself and all that stuff. And that's about musk letting him back on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm all fine with that. I'm all fine with all that stuff. I just, man musk letting him back on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, and I'm all fine with that. I'm all fine with all that stuff. I just man, I'm from sports, dude. If somebody's down, you fucking step on their throat and you end the game, you end the game, you end the game. The game is ended. You don't allow the game to continue on with that person. Uh, uh, fine. That's not a

good way to play the game because then the game continues on and they can come back in the game but from the standpoint of what i think mark was saying with the i don't care if aliex is left on or allowed back on twitter as meaningless i kind of agree with that because i agree with it too because the damage that aliex can do vis-a-vis social media there are so many worse figures now share all over social media i think so again, I agree on all fronts all reasonable thoughts are there, but I'm from sports You step on a man's fucking throw it's interesting and you end the game. It's interesting how intensely you're telling me that you're from sports

I'm from sports. Okay, all right. I'm just I can't I can't I've just seen it too many times I've seen too many fourth quarter come back. I am also from sports. It's too many fourth quarter come back stand But I'm talking about the Huey Lewis on the news album. Ah that Fourth quarter sales spiked yep, so um, you know all this is concerning yeah, but let's go ahead and hear Alex Explain his prediction sure of 9-11 Because we've heard a hundred different versions of this. I'm just gonna say which version is this? See how he chooses to lie to Tucker's audience.

How could you have known that? Well, in the longer clips, it's a multi-hour show from July 25th, 2001. I specifically walked through all the reasons and I knew that they were hyping up that we were about to be hit by some of it. A lot of the world trade center had been attacked the first time and that the feds have been involved helping cook the bomb and allowing it to go forward.

And I just saw a lot of the pre-programming that was happening in the media as they were on the news saying, you know, well, life's about to change America. And I was ready with the rank corporation was saying and with the Pentagon was putting out, and I read the P-NAC document from a year before, rebuilding America's defenses, the Dick Cheney, had helped write, and it said we need a Pearl Harbor event on the American homeland to be able to bring in

this police state and this control and expand the American empire worldwide. So hundreds of pieces of data, hundreds of pieces of data went into that prediction. So I have two main responses to this explanation. The first is that Alex has been very clear on his show as well as when he was on Rogan's show that even though he claimed that he got that prediction

from research, in reality it came to him in a prophetic dream. Here's him saying that. I, from the time I was a child and only happens once every few years will have a dream. I will tell people about the dream vividly image it and it will happen at a later day, a month, six months, a year later. And a lot of people ask, how did I know about 9-1-1?

How did I get on the air and never done this before? I said, call the White House call Congress tell them not to use been lawton to attack New York as their taxi and I have the evidence I had the information but frankly folks were never said this on the air I had a dream where I saw the towers hit you wonder why Alex won't just tell his buddy Tucker who clearly is indicated that he believes there's a spiritual war going on that he got his prediction from prophetic dream, which is part of the skill set that God gave him so he could lead his forces against the devil. Maybe it's too early in the interview for that, but I don't know, it seems disingenuous for Alex not to tell his buddy the truth.

Now leaving that aside, my other response is that Alex has completely forgotten the narrative from 2001. In 2001, there were a couple of journalists who were able to get interviews with Bin Laden, and the conspiracy community took serious notice of that. How could these journalists get access to this guy, who the US intelligence agencies couldn't even seem to find? It doesn't make sense. In the context of multiple interviews being reported on from outlets in the Middle East, CNN made a big deal out of how their team were the first to conduct a TV interview with Ben Laden

in 1997 where he declared war on America. All this added up to a media rollout, according to people like Bill Cooper. They were putting the Boogieman into the public's mind in advance of blaming him for a major act of terrorism. That was the genesis of Cooper's prediction that he lays out pretty clearly on his show. And this is where the beginnings of what led to Alex's what his prediction was. It's that there were interviews with Ben Laden

and CNN was talking about it. And that's it. Right, so I, like, that's one of the things that I hate the most in the like faith world. I feel like, listen, I think we're all fairly convinced that something's going on that we can't see. Right. You know, something larger than that.

Yeah, I'm tapped into the universe and I predicted that Osama bin Laden flew the planes into there because I can see into the future. Whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not just going to let that on TV. Can you say the first part and then also have some fake ass reasons for why that you might be right or because we won't just let people allow you them to believe you on faith. Despite insinuating strongly, they should. Well, no, no, you should believe this on faith, but also this is a big

ask. This is this is this is maybe a little bit too much for the uninitiated to give Alex a pass on. Sure, but he is a prophet and sure and the literally has visions of the future. Yeah, I suppose you want to get way up to the 9-11. Yeah, I suppose you want to wait till date 3 to drop the on the psychic on somebody. Fair enough, fair enough. So Tucker's just blown away by Alex and his predictions, his abilities. Oh, hair on his arms. Oh, standing up.

Mine still quite not. Flies it, flies it. But the 9-11 thing, I remember that really well. Nobody was thinking like that. So you called it in public on tape. Did the 9-11 commission, so if I'm the FBI, I'm investigating. I'm like, yeah, what did they say? Because you're the only person who said that I wow. Is that Bill Cooper? Yeah. No, they didn't, but of course they did. My most active, they killed Bill. Going back over a decade was when I read the Rockefeller

Foundation Operation lockstep, and they described using a virus to bring in world government, to bring in a world medical ID, that they would then build the social credit score off of, and that they would make people wear masks for fear, that they would shut down sporting events and things like that, and basically phase in this new tyranny. So I was also able to specifically make that prediction over and over and over again,

because I was going off their own battle plants. Yeah, I know that's Operation Lockstep isn't real. Nope. And this is a load of bullshit. Yep. Alex is just pivoting over to because he probably doesn't want to talk more about the 9-11 prediction because there isn't anything else there.

There's nothing else there. Yeah. And he doesn't remember really what was going on. And further examination of the things he said about 9-11 is gonna be bad for them Like does Tucker want to force Alex to actually explain what he thinks happened on 9-11? Yeah, cuz that's gonna be a mess. Yeah There There is a certain part of like every interview like hey Alex

We came here for a surface Every interview, like, hey, Alex, we came here for a surface interview. And Alex would be like, yes, you did. Why are you asking me questions, then? Well, to Tucker's credit, he does just let Alex roll quite a bit. So there isn't much like searching for their depth. Yeah, I like to. Because I think Tucker understands that there isn't any. Just wind him up and let him go.

You came here to watch me cook, let me go into the kitchen. And then when we're done, we'll have a meal. That's it. And it'll be inedible. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't be like, oh, what were you thinking then? Right.

You don't want to know. So, so, so Alex had all this information that informed his belief about 9-11 having. He had this lockstep document. Chicken fried lockstep. And it makes Tucker ask a very pointed question. And it's a question that I think I would take as an insult if I were Alex. All right. You're the only person in media who actually reads these reports? I don't think a lot of people do read them, but I do read them. I mean, I'm currently reading MIT reports from their top councils, Pentagon reports. They have a working group called the Mad Scientist group at the Pentagon

that works with MIT. And if you go watch their hour long, two hour long, three hour long meetings they have on YouTube with all the tops, I mean, we're talking hundreds of top scientists, they admit that they're building a post human world that soon everyone's gonna be mind controlled, that they're gonna put smart dust in our food, that they can electromegnetically control, and they just lay it all out right there. The smart dust is gonna go with the bugs.

How'd you like that one? Yeah, I think that if I were asked, are you the only person who reads this stuff I would probably take that as insult because obviously Tucker is is in essence What he's teasing out is no one says this. Yeah, exactly Do you have access to magic reports? It is it is very much like only that is that is like a that psychopath question

You're like how do you meet the person at the funeral again like Only a narcissist could listen to that question and then take it in stride and just keep on going like I hear that and I go You're fucking with me. What do you want? What did I do to you? I'm just I'm not I'm reading the things and Alex is like I know isn't it weird that people don't reading the things and Alex is like, I know, isn't it weird that people don't read these things? And I think the goal of asking it for Tucker is to be like, no, they read this and they just cover it up. Yeah. Yeah. Or something like that. It's got to be. That's the, the, um, the end point that is most advantageous to the presentation Tucker is doing. Right. Is something where everybody has access to this.

It's an open secret. Yeah, it's hiding in plain sight. Yeah. Yeah, Alex doesn't quite go that direction. No. So he has, he just reads all this high-level shit, man. I'm not really making predictions in these high-level world economic forum and other large-think tank groups.

They are laying out the future and they're high priest of the world economic forum and other large think tank groups, they are laying out the future and they're high priest in the world economic forum. It's a consortium of all these groups. You've all know Harari, you go read this quotes, the future is not human. The human era is over. The public is useless. I mean, this is a very anti-human system. So that's how I'm able to make predictions because they've given us a road map. They tell us where they want to take us. And so when the public wakes up, we push back on some of them, but they always come back. And so I'm just following the trajectory of where they say they want to take us. And there were a lot of white papers, not just the PNAC document from

2000, a year before 9-11, where they describe, we really need big terror attacks, we really need Pearl Harbor events to get Americans with their rights. I contest this and I demand Alex producer even cite any of these other white papers he claims that we'd needed Pearl Harbor events, ridiculous. They won. This is a complete horseshit.

He's laying out in front of Tucker because he knows the Tucker's enough of a worm to eat it. Alex doesn't read high level world economic forum documents, he skims memes and he makes shit up. He has a couple of lines that he attributes to you all know of Harari, but I know without a shred of a doubt that Alex is not even read the most elementary stuff Harari is released like his book Sapiens and Homo Deus. I know that because I've read Alex's stupid book, the great reset, and multiple chapters

in it are dedicated to out-of-context sentences from R.I.E.'s book that are just being used completely and appropriately, in a much in the way that someone who hasn't read his books would do. Yeah, that sounds right. If Tucker had any integrity at all and cared at all about what he was exposing his audience to, he would ask for further details. If Tucker is so blown away by Alex's seemingly superhuman prophecy powers and Alex is saying that it comes from reading these reports, shouldn't Tucker be at all curious what these

reports are? Shouldn't high level world economic forum documents be way too vague? Your journalist dick? You're interviewing guy! Tucker doesn't ask any more details because he doesn't actually think Alex is a prophet. He just wants the audience to. He doesn't ask for more details because he's playing a game with Alex and he doesn't want to make it too clear that Alex is an idiot liar. And he's, he knows that there's no depth.

Ask for more details and you'll get a five minute diatribe that includes no details. Yeah. He knows that. Yeah, it is, it is weird to be watching daytime TV from the 90s. Is that what this is? I mean, you know, like when they would have the faith healers on when they would have the spiritualists on the daytime TV.

Don't but like Donahue. Yeah, yeah. Like Donahue and the Reba. Montel. Montel, that's exactly who I was thinking. and the Reba Montel. Montel. That's who that's exactly who I was thinking. I saw it. I saw it.

It's on my head. Montel. Yeah. That's that's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of them bringing on Alex as this. Oh my god. This person who has seen the future three times in a row that predicted that the only difference is there's a level of curiosity

that those programs were based in. Sure. They weren't just trying to whitewash the guests. No, but there was. And there was an opportunity for the audience generally to ask questions. It's sometimes it turned hostile. That's what I was thinking about why this was so much worse

is because this is so Curated you know like in the daytime TV they knew that they couldn't they knew that the producers knew what was going on Everybody was involved in the show. Yeah, you know, and then the audience got the chance to have their fun with it too This is just like an isolated block. It's like a it's like daytime TV in a in a It's like a it's like daytime TV in a in a confinement Salitary confinement daytime TV is disgusting. Yeah, yeah, so Tucker allows Alex to ramble quite a bit at various points in this interview and here's one of them. It's just I

It's clear that Hasbola and Hamas have tens of thousands of men and women as sleeper cells that are, quote, other than Mexican that the board patrol list every month, tens of thousands coming across the Texas and Arizona and California sectors. And it's an easy equation to predict that there's a wide probability that Hezbollah and Hamas at some point are going to attack sports stadiums. They're going to attack colleges, they're going to attack synagogues, they're going to shoot up mass gatherings. If they're given the order by Iran, if we go to war with Iran, and then when this happens, our government won't get in trouble for dissolving the border

and letting these people come in. Just like on 9-11, our government clearly had prior knowledge that was clearly a major standout that went on, and the government got more power, more control, and now they're not pointing the Homeland Security apparatus at the Russians like they did in the Cold War, or the Islamists after 9-11, now they admit that their main focus is Christian conservatives and the bitter clingers and the people that live in rural America that what white people, I mean it says that in the report are the main terror threat. And so this whole apparatus of the war on terror, it has now been turned inwardly against the people,

not just here, but also in Europe, where if someone criticizes transgenderism in the UK, they come to their house and arrest them. It's almost the UK. They come to their house and arrest them. It is a journalist does that. They come to their house and arrest them. Good. Somebody says, I think these surveillance cameras should start getting cut down. They come to their house and they arrest them for their free speech.

And so this is a global movement by the mega corporations, by the Black Rocks and the state streets of the Vanguard to control 80 plus percent of world wealth to control our behavior. And Larry Fink of Black Rock is seven. The day most group, we're going to use our control over all this finance and this global social credit score rolling out

to control people's behavior. So that's really what this is. And then they use the threat of global warming, they use the threat of a virus, they use the threat of radical Islam to take our rights, but we really are the target. Well, by the way, none of that seems implausible. of radical Islam to take our rights, but we really are the target. What? By the way, none of that seems implausible.

Made sense. You're a measure of how the world has changed. If you'd said this to me 15 years ago, it'd have been like, you know, someone's a crack pot and it's not me. And now after COVID, nothing you said seems crazy at all. I mean, maybe right, you may be wrong,

but it's not out of the wrong possibility, obviously. But even if I disagree with what you just said, I would think that's pretty interesting. It's interesting perspective. Why do you think you've committed no crime you'd be in jail if you had? Why do you think they hit you so much? You've committed no crime you'd be in jail if you had as a painfully stupid thing to hear Tucker say. He doesn't believe that shit for a second, but it's just another way to appeal to the audience that Alex has done no wrong. He's good man. He doesn't believe that shit for a second, but it's just another way to appeal to the audience that Alex has done no wrong.

He's good man. He's good man. People like don't like for no reason. Wow. Now I can elucidate a little bit about why people don't like Alex. Even just using the very interesting perspective, he just shared with Tucker.

That clip jumps all over the place. But the general theme is that Alex doesn't like that law enforcement agencies in the country recognize the dangers of white nationalism and white supremacist groups. He thinks that Homeland Security should only be used to protect the homeland from non-white people, so he gets really offended when white groups are seen as terrorist threats, even when they do terrorist stuff. That's a big part of why people don't like Alex.

He's a flagrant racist. He's savvy enough to not use slurs on air, but the difference in the way he covers stories depending on the race of the subject is very glaring if you pay attention. Beyond this trend, we've, which we've covered in detail previously, Alex literally just repeats white supremacists talking points constantly, stuff about like varying crime rates and what have you. And he believes that apartheid should be reintroduced in South Africa and Zimbabwe. I know a lot of people think it's fun to pretend Alex isn't racist, but that's delusional and I have no time for it.

Keep in going with things that Alex touches on in the clip. He's also a vicious transphob who would like to wield the power of the state to outlaw all LGBTQ existence in public and eventually in private. He thinks he believes that gay people and trans people are mostly petrified, trying to lure your children into a death cult, which is disgusting to breach. In that clip, he says that in the UK, you get arrested if you criticize trans people, which seems really strange, considering that J.K. Rowling doesn't seem to be in jail. The biggest transphobic person probably in media in the world?

Yee-well. Yeah. So this brings me to the next reason from that clip that people don't like Alex. He lies to justify his hate. Yeah. He has no problem making things up when he needs to, generally because reality doesn't conform to his ridiculous bigot shit. Also in that clip, Alex claims there are tons of Hezbollah sleepers sell people in the

country who have come over the border, which he has no evidence to back up. However, promoting this mentality is a surefire way to build up anti-immigrant sentiment, which is one of Alex's big causes. If you think there are tons of Hezbollah sleepers sell agents walking among us, any person you suspect of being an immigrant from the Middle East could be a lethal threat to you and your family. Promoting narratives like this are building blocks of Alex's aim of dehumanizing immigrant populations who he would like to expel from the country.

Also, people hate Alex because climate change is real and because COVID is real, and his actions probably led to a ton of unnecessary deaths during the pandemic, which Alex shamelessly tried to profit from. Promoting how evil all the masks are while selling a mask claiming that his uh his supplements could uh protect you from COVID. It's a low to shit. Yeah. There's plenty more, but just from that clip there, these are some of the reasons people might hate

Alex. It's because he's a lying piece of shit whose primary influence on the world is inciting and exacerbating hate. Uh, he's done no crime. Hensys not in jail. You know, it's amazing, Dan. You made me hate them all over again. Yeah, we like to renew those vows. Fallen, fallen hate all over. So Alex has his own answer, though. Sure. I'm different from yours. It's a little different. Okay. Why do you think they hit you so much? Because I do read their documents and I do read their books and we were effectively getting a lot of people in the military and the intelligence agencies who were compartmentalized and who tuned into my show and saw my films and read my books and things and they clicked with it and said, well, I see all this going on around me. He's not lying about it.

And then I would give them other pieces that I discovered or my other guests discovered. And so it was giving them an operational awareness outside of their compartmentalization. And so we had massive success in the military, in the police, and in the intelligence agency, not to share it around the world. And so our penetration into those areas to help people expand their awareness that we're

inside the government, inside corporations was triggering a lot of whistleblowers, was triggering a lot of people not going along with the program. And so really my sin was decontartmentalization of the population. So Alex absolutely does not read anybody's documents. This is ridiculous. Are you sure his sin isn't de compartmentalization? Well, that's where things get actually kind of interesting because I think that there's some truth to what he's saying.

Now granted, I don't think that there's any reason why the man hates him being explained here or anything like that. But I do think he's touching on a dynamic that was real of his show, which was that he was pretty effective at radicalizing police officers and military. Sure. So there is something to be said for that. I don't think that that is why the globalists hate him or anything like that, because that's all in his head.

But I think that, you know, he's at least pointing to something real as a cause for why his imaginary enemies A. Don't there is that yeah, I will give him that so tip of the old cap For at least having Internal consistency in something. Yes. Yeah, fair enough. Just not often the case here. Yeah, that's true So Alex got censored from before we go any further. Okay, I want, I just, I just need a head count or something. Two, Alex Tucker. Right, right, right. But I'd be like, how is it possible for Hezbollah

to be sending so many people over here? And they have been for years, that's why. And then still, you know, like, isn't a good argument, like how are they running their own infrastructure? You know, like, who is dealing with Hezbollah's controlling issues? You know, because they've got so many people in sleeper cells over here.

It's an organizational night. It's absurd. It is absurd. The org chart is nuts. I mean, come on. And who reports to who you don't even know who's going to be there on what day? What's the phone tree like?

If someone's sick. Everybody knows that his bowl has the largest standing army. So many people in his blood. Apparently. Yeah. Okay. So I look scutzen. I can't I have no answer for you. I just I don't know. Is there a lot? Is there a little? I don't know. According to this mythology, this fantasy. Infinite. Yes. Yes. So I look scutzen. So from internet. Yes. Yes he did. And Tucker wasn't there for him. No, no, first they came for Alex and Tucker said, fuck off. I'm out on a boat at all. When you got de-platformed, to this day, no one has ever been more aggressively censored. I don't think than you. I have

apologized to you this in person before. I was in Labrador and a fishing trip and missed the entire thing. I was literally out of cell and a fishing trip and missed the entire thing. I was literally out of cell range. I didn't know what happened, but I got back and I was and I read about it. I felt like it was a major moment in the history of the American media. I don't think anybody defended you when that happened. Anybody with any kind of audience. Formerly when Tim Cook admitted that he met on the weekend in August of 2017 with the other big tech heads

and they made the decision to curate like it's a museum and take me off. It was hundreds of platforms. I mean, it wasn't just all the big ones. It was everything from LinkedIn to our bank accounts being taken away to everything and suing that weekend over the next month. And I knew that I was a test case, and I wasn't taken off those platforms for any demonstrable reason. It was the questioning the school shooting thing that came later, they went and kind of dredged that up for my past just questioning it a few times, blew that up after I'd been deplatformed

and said I was deplatformed for that. If you check the record, I wasn't. And so once they deplatformed me, it made the show in ways only get bigger, where people actually going to M4Words.com and finding out a little radio stages and things. So then they panicked and said, OK, let's look at his record and create more of a reason that he's being taken off.

So they took things out of context from five, six years before, blew him up as a current thing out of context, and deceptively reported on what I'd said to create a strong and argument to then facilitate the reason. What's so crazy is if you asked just a cross-section of Americans, who's responsible for the Sandy Hook massacre

of kids at the school? No one remembers the name of the murderer. Adam Lanza. Okay, thank you. I didn't remember. What? Is happening. They effectively blamed you for a school shooting.

Yeah, that's ridiculous. It's fascinating though to hear Tucker repeat something that I've literally only heard Alex say, which is that no one knows Adam Lanza's name, and they just think Alex did say any hook. Yeah, that's completely insane. And I have a strong suspicion that Tucker is just pretending not to remember Lanza to play along with Alex's

idiotic bit. Oh, other than that, that right there is one of the indications that like, I think Alex had some creative control. He had to have over this interview. I've never heard anybody say that. I never never. It's a ridiculous thing that Alex says. Yeah. The opening the show with his own sizzle reel of fake predictions.

Yeah. Like there is something going on here that Alex, this is not something that is impartial, and Tucker is producing of his own accord. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm not saying that it's like a paid-of-play situation or anything like that,

but there is some level of editorial that Alex is exerting. Yeah, I don't like this at all. Also, that really seemed like a sincere apology. And it totally explains why this is the first time the Tucker has appeared anywhere with Alex in the five years since Alex got kicked off social media. Wow. Seems really sincere.

Yeah, wow, maybe got him. Yeah. You know, he's got you back now. Yeah, I mean, I referenced him a couple times on his show, a couple times. Didn't have him on Alex Jones I'd be people think Alex Jones is crazy, but is he really that crazy? See I said that three years ago Alex. Sure, sure

I am your greatest supporter. Yeah So Alex rambles here about the the ADL A bit share and how they want to take the sponsors away. They're trying to take a sponsors. All right. Meering some of the Elon Musk share talk from from recent days. Yeah. I am still banned and I'm not mad at Elon Musk. I understand I've been so demonized with the general public. He's barely able to, you know, keep Twitter going right now. I really appreciate what he's done. I admire him. He's done a lot of great work and I see him moving in the right direction. So a lot of people attack us on Twitter.

I trend all the time. Hey, if you're such an absolutist on free speech, bring back Alex Jones. I understand that he did that. The ADL and others would really be able to probably shut down Twitter. So I understand that he needs to go through a process before he does that.

So people get mad at Twitter for not why the ADL I don't I mean that maybe not the world's expert on your career, but I Don't I know you I've never you say a single anti-Semitic thing and the anti Israel thing Why would the ADL be against you? I don't I don't think anyone's even called you an anti-Semite I mean what goes on is I don't think anyone's even called you an anti-Semite. Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, liberal donations. And so they go out and then police and take people's sponsors and target them just by the adial calling up sponsors and sponsors get scared and drop. And so that's what they've done to Elon Musk. They've been, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've took over 50% of Twitter's North American and European advertising in just the last year. And,

and we're agitated about it by saying he gives harbor to white supremacists, which, which he doesn't. But at the same time, white supremacists are ridiculous, they're goofy. Most of them are usually working for foundations that are basically, you know,

actors, we're not supposed to say that, but there's many cases that actually being the case and that they're just, Tucker, you're one supremacist, but let those. Absolutely. Whatever happened to the ACLU that used to support the KKK,

marching through a town or public, still their newspaper, I don't support the KKK. I think they're a joke. But if you take their rights, you're taking everybody's. But they're not even taking their rights to those people to post because they create fear and they get the ADL more funding. But if they can target an Alex Jones or an Elon Musk

or Tucker Carlson, then they're going after the real popular leaders that are bringing to America together. And so the left wants us to divide us all according to race and to come out and say fundamentally with critical race theory that inherently being white is bad and teaching five year old white should have their inherently bad result.

That's where we started. Oh, God. So this is just kind of a planned episode of Alex's show at this point yeah which makes sense yeah the goal here is to expose more people to Alex's shit and push the audience even further down the road to extremism and the only way to do that is by presenting Alex is kind of a sensible person the way this interview could have been interesting is if Alex got wasted like he did on Rogan and then he put on a show.

But he's trying to appeal to a different audience here and they would likely be turned off by him being drunk off his ass rambling about aliens, which is unfortunate because this is just boring. Yeah, that is, I mean, it does feel as though Alex was invited on to Tucker show after Tucker had been kicked off of Fox News, freeing the, you know, available space open after advertisers have already left Twitter. They're gone. Yeah, that's it's gone.

So they're in an echo chamber of just people who would otherwise agree. There are zero downsides because no one pays attention to who fucking cares what the WAPO says about Alex and Tucker's Interfaces Kind of like that Mark Twain quote that Alex loves like at the beginning of Patriot as a feared man Scales and you know like but then in time people come around because it costs nothing to be a patriot Just replace Patriot with white time people come around because it costs nothing to be a patriot just replace patriot with white supremacists right and you have you have Tucker like it doesn't cost him anything to do this now and so yeah he wouldn't have done it

before you know it would have been a fucking awesome move what Jesse waters as soon as he takes over for Tucker brings Alex on that would have been a badass man fuck you talk about what now that would have been a badass. Fuck you. Tucker. A bit of that. That would have been a badass. But no, I just don't understand why they're not leaning into it. You know, like I don't understand why you're still holding why you still have the gloves on. If you're Tucker, if you're a Tucker because it feels like somebody, it feels like they had a conversation that was like, this is for Tucker's audience. This is who we want you to look like.

This is who we're presenting you for. Right. Because I think that Tucker probably doesn't want to be seen as that publicly. I think I think that his is a that's that's pathetic. You are that publicly, Tucker. Step up. Well, I think that a lot of folks have difficulty with being over that we're the bad guys. I understand. They know that on some level. So you create a thin veneer of respectability.

And then on the second level, I think that if you were just to be out and out, you know, clear about what you're about. Sure. I had someone like Tucker or Alex. Sure. I think the Tucker would run the risk of actually getting his show kicked off Twitter. Well, no, he would. What what yeah, what are you talking about because of what in the past? Yes, in the past yes

That came out of my mouth. I'm like what am I talking about? Oh no, we're all the best thing that's going to happen Is that we're all going to be kicked off Twitter right when it goes away? Yeah, full it folds. Yes. So, in this next clip, they branch off from complaining about the ADL taking everyone's sponsors into complaining about how tough it is to be white. Oh, it's so hard. White people have it so tough.

It is so tough. And teaching five-year-old white children is very bad because they're white. That is wounding their brains and really creating racial division. Why do people put up with that? I don't understand why. I mean, that's just, if you had told me 20 years ago, and I grew up in a world where people put up with slavery.

The skin color was totally immoral, and I still believe that. But if you told me 20 years ago that we were gonna live in a world where people get on TV and just be like, I hate white people, they're bad. No, it's totally fine. Like, why do people put up with that?

Like there should be zero tolerance for that. I don't get it. The Democratic Party founded the KKK. And when the majority were whites in the South in some areas, they played the race car for political power. Now that the majority in most areas are not white, they're playing the good old fashioned race car of tell whites, you know, stand down, let people take over your society, your culture, give up your culture.

It's embarrassing to be white. And then now it's flat out bad to be white. And the left's trying to convert all these minority groups that are not majority of most areas into race-based systems because that is a very effective system. But why do people put up with that? I mean, like if they do that for the religions or Filipinos or Hondurans, I would say you can't do that. You're not allowed to attack people on the basis of the race. I'm sorry, not in a country like this

because the country will fall apart and it's immoral. That's totally great. But nobody says anything. I don't get it. The reason they've done it is most of the enforcers of this are white liberal women, 45 or older, not fair, it's just a fact, and they're cuped husbands.

And so to them, can I say the phrase cuped husbands is the best? It really is true. So if you give them on the white liberal, it's not even me. They're totally scared when they're with brown skin. I want to say, I just want to say, first is signal constantly and then say, yes,

the white people are bad. You know, the white people are evil. And you know, these, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I see white people. So they're gonna say, yeah, it's time to deal with these crackers and they're a white person saying that. So from Jackson Hole or Nantucket or Aspel, are you people? The white's supposed to be a lot.

How are you talking about? It'd be a lot super simple. If you've got a BLM sign in your yard, you should be required to live in Gary, Indiana, or Baltimore. What? You should not be anywhere near Jackson, Wyoming. You should be made to have at least aetle us. I totally agree.

You should be made to live in Detroit. Segregation now. Segregation then. Segregation forever. That is so cool. Lewis. I totally agree. We made it. segregation now segregation then segregation forever That is unironically some of the most racist content I heard from Alex. It's the most recent thing I've ever heard. Apparently, Alex and Tucker don't believe you can express your belief the Black Lives Matter If you live in an area where they feel it's predominantly white.

The implication here is, of course, that these cushy white liberals who live in these cushy white areas only believe the Black Lives Matter because they don't live in areas with higher Black populations. Right. There's an underlying premise here that these imaginary white liberals would change their mind if they lived in East St. Louis

and that their opposition to racism exists only because they don't live around a lot of Black people, which is nuts. This is, because it's my favorite, it's my favorite, because it's such a great line of thinking, you know, like, oh, the only reason you don't live those by those people who I would never live nearby is because of the imaginary things that I think those people I've never met might do to you. Right. Eeeeeee.

All this is made up in Alex and Tucker's racist imagination. Who are these white liberals, these shrill female enforcers and their cocked husbands? 45 and older! Yes! They don't exist, but they're characters that Alex is invented in his mind in order to invalidate opposition to racism. To the point of how this is all in his imagination, no one is even saying that white populations are inherently evil. This is a complete fabrication of Alex's imagination because he's

emotionally threatened by conversations about how race and racism have shaped the modern world we currently inhabit. He's intensely weak in his sense of self, so instead of engaging with the actual arguments and conversations that are being had, he has to create a fictional version of them to whine about where he's the victim. Does he think that the legacy of slavery and the years of segregation that followed don't still have real world impact in terms of housing, urban development and generational wealth? If he doesn't agree with that position, then he should actually form a rebuttal instead of just pretending everyone hates white people because they're white so ridiculous it's it's childish shit that somehow is allowed to be taken seriously that it's it's it needs to calm down and go away

yeah and it's being mixed with some it like just generally and genuinely intensely racist ideas yeah I mean express that's that is that is literally the most full-throwed and supportive segregation I've heard publicly in a long time, which is why it's even crazier to me that we have to pretend like at behaving like Not getting drunk all the time is what's going to make Alex more palatable to people as opposed to just being like Hey, I just think you shouldn't be allowed to have a BLM sign if you don't live in a predominantly black area and also only black people should live in predominantly black areas. Like what are we doing here? It's a mess.

I don't understand how, like, when people see a thing and then they tell me like, oh, this is what people are gonna think. I am always wrong. I am way wrong. I'm way wrong because I hear that and I'm like well Obviously people are gonna go look at these two weirdo white nationalist creepos living in the fucking main Underneath the what are we what are they doing and instead they're like ah these people they get it They have got it. Yeah, we gotta think about whether or not 9-11 is it because of this? Tucker and Alex don't have the woke mind virus I guess if it must be that I think I have the woke mind virus. Yeah, you got it from the vaccine You got it from the vaccine or something. Yeah, or you watch too much TV that China made you watch it

I don't do that either It's not just here. It's in Europe and it's in the UK like in London The liberal areas are like 99% white. Oh, I noticed. Okay, there's a lot of rich people in London who aren't white, but they're not even in that area. They are the most insular group. And then they point at white Christian culture of society that actually outlawed slavery

in most of the world, was the vanguard of stopping it. And then they don't point at China, which is the most homogeneous racist group in the world. It's an ethno state, it's Han Chinese period. Well, they teach us, you know what they're news, that we are gonna have Chinese superiority. We are the Chinese supremacist, GZPing, Admire's Hitler. He is literally following a race-based operation

that is taking the world over, that owns the majority of Hollywood, that's paid off of Democratic Party. And if you look at all these anti-white shows that you see in Hollywood, almost all of it has majority, literal communist Chinese government backing that is funding. That's so simple. China looks in and sees this diverse culture. And they say, we're going to use that to split the country up and vulcanize it. And that's what they've done.

And so communist China, along with the Southern Property Law Center, and the ADL and all these groups, see America's weakness, and they're literally coming in saying white people are inherently bad because the color of their skin, they're inherently obsceded people, they've hurt people, white people, invented racism, none of that's true. It's really just tribalism. And- Wait, didn't China invent this? They organized all these other groups

into race-based groups to then unify them under the Democratic Party to attack who is left that tends to be more conservative, and that is some white people as country. Hoobay. So again, more weird anti-white fantasies out of Alex's imagination. I'm gonna go ahead and just wait for him to prove

that China's making anti-white movies and TV shows in order to attack white people by making minority groups join the Democratic Party in order to fight white conservatives. Something, I don't know, very strange. Yeah. Also, a small point, Alex is totally wrong about the UK's voting patterns white people overwhelmingly voted for

Conservatives and the non-white people in the country mostly voted for labor large cities mostly Went for labor like London which is not 99% white or whatever the fuck he said I don't even know how to begin. Yeah, this is again Alex trying to make a very racist point which is his belief that people who are anti-racist are only so because they don't live around non-white people This is flagrally racist stuff that he's He's blaming on China or something. Yeah, it's it's it's incoherent No, I mean it is it is so much like I Look at people who live with

In harmony Together and I say ah the only reason you guys do that is because you don't live next to each other. And I say that because I don't live next to any of you. If you live in a city, that's where all the white nationalists, I mean, but I don't live there. So I won't go there, but that's where they, um, wait. And Alex is the same person who freaked out

because he saw Muslim women in a pool supply shop Like just go to the store. Yeah, shut up and go to the store. Yeah, you know He's the one who has the problem. Oh, they're replacing it shut up and go to the store. Yeah, just shut up Live your life dick. We just shut up. Yeah, I mean it amazing. Don't cares about your very soft feelings But what if someone not white makes me mean, makes me feel bad? What about China making these anti-white TV shows? Oh man. What TV shows are these?

Uh, Fresh Prince. Sure. Yeah. Will Smith. All China. Mm-hmm. Yep. Um, I'm not sure.

No specifics are given, so we just assume it's all of these. It's all of this huge collection of anti-white TV shows could be anything you want. Probably anything with a black main character because that Alex believes should have been a white character. I was gonna say, yeah, there's no way that there's just like a regular TGI block, you know? You mean like there's a show that's like step-by-step

that the entire show is just like a white people set. How much white people a show that's like step by step. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not how much white people suck. There's no like TGA. There's no like block of like non-stop. I'm gonna guess there's not. That would be, that would be a really interesting. I would watch the shit out to be honest. Just be fun.

So, okay. The issue that we come to is that black people and Hispanic people are voting more for the GOP. And that's making the racebaders of the Democratic Party freak out. Oh, though they're panicking because more and more blacks are voting Republican, more and more Spanish than when Republicans are starting to figure this out. So now they're in panic mode to bring in totally disenfranchised third world populations who are refugees from the multi year lockdowns in Africa, Latin America and Asia in the Middle East. They then bring them to you in camps, brainwash them, then bring them to our

border, brainwash them more, then send them into the United States and then literally hold them for years at facilities while they're indoctrinated to be this new political underclass that's then gonna be turned loose on America. And that's why she's giving illegal aliens the right to vote in their cities, giving them drivers license. That's why you see them passing laws. They can be police officers.

So they are importing a new enforcement class against the American people and they're setting it up along racial lines, not us. They're making it racial. It's like Hitler made what he said. He's so clever of them. So it's the left and the fintanks and the communist Chinese that look at the US and have seen our weakness

as race, and they're exacerbating it. So I don't understand. So you're from Texas. You grew up in Texas. Your family's been there a long time. Texas is changing really fast. It's dirty for one thing I notice. Whoa, weird shift of topic.

I weird, yeah, it's dirty. That I don't feel comfortable with whatsoever. No, whatsoever. We'll get more into where his thought goes afterwards, but I just had to like have a little bit of a break after that clip because it's like What Alex imagines is ridiculous the level of an operation they would need to brainwash Immigrants for years in order to in numbers that would sway election massive is ridiculous So we're talking hundreds of thousands.

What more than that? At least. I mean, if you consider the places where they're, they, you could make a relevant difference in like the electoral vote. Sure, sure, sure. Here's what I would throw out at you. I wasn't in.

I would throw out that it is impossible to imagine the words turn loose upon the American public while at the same time, while at the same time, still including that they would have to then get very menial jobs like the rest of us, you know, like, how do you turn loose something up population? No, because they're giving them all the free money. No, but I mean, they'd be working it like they have receptionist at the fucking Turn loose free money. Oh god, I did. But again, this is all-

We have to pay rent. This is all- You can't turn loose to pay rent. Insighting other ring and dehumanization of immigrant populations. Yeah, yeah. Which is something that Alex is very invested in. Yeah. populations, which is something that Alex is very invested in. And so all of this bullshit nonsense that he's throwing out isn't service of that. And when you consider the logistics of what he's just randomly throwing out, no evidence,

just it's comical in its scale, the kind of project that he's discussing. Yeah, and the dis and that just, and you know, it is so easy to like, cause we're inoculated to it, you know, and overwhelmed by it all the time, but it is like, turn loose is such a fucking stupid. Somebody could just move into your building. Turn loose. Turn loose, you know, like, it's not,

it's just people moving. It's people moving. It's not like like it's not it's just people moving. Hey, it's people moving It's not like it's not like they've got somewhere else to go along the way. There's like there's a job for them They've got a place to live now. They're your neighbor turn loose. This joined you at the club best case scenario They're coming off five years of globalist Greenwashing I would like to pick their right with that and you know what now, now that I'm the neighbor, come on over, let's talk about it. But that's best case scenario. That is best case scenario. Hezbollah Super Sai, now I know.

I knew Hezbollah was coming. Yeah, you never know. And that's why you can always, you can't trust these immigrants. And I'm sure if it's Hezbollah. Also, Austin is dirty. So let's get back to that thought. Okay, sorry. So I don't understand.

So you're from Texas. You grew up in Texas. Your family's been there a long time. Texas is changing really fast. It's dirty for one thing I notice. Because physically dirty, garbage on the side of the road. I never have seen men in Texas before. So your governor could have stopped that. He commands the Texas National

Guard literally. What is happening? I feel like that makes him a traitor to the country, but what am I missing? Well, I mean, not governor Abbott is on a scale of one to ten, you know, the best kind of Republican governor is a ten, and the worst is say a one, and like the Illinois, it's a so-called Republican, that's really Democrat. I would put Greg Abbott as about a five. He is the Democrat. The state is overwhelmed.

There isn't really a state mechanism. It's federal to kick people back and deport them. So they have put up barbed wire. They have tried to stop people. They have tried. But then they have to hand them over to the people back and deport them. So they have put up barbed wire, they have tried to stop people, they have tried, but then they have to hand them over to the feds who released them. But why not just say the feds are committing a crime? They're committing a crime.

This is not allowed under laws passed by the Congress. This is gonna democracy, the Congress passed laws. And so you've got criminals running the country, the Biden administration is criminal, which is true. Criminals. And we're not playing along. And like, if you don't like it, come do something about it.

Meanwhile, every able-bodied man with a black rifle assembled at the border and we're just gonna stop this and save the country. I don't understand, like, that's not hard. What am I missing? No, I think you're absolutely right. In fact, what the deep-state fears would be a coalition of good governors, good attorney generals

giving them the findings and the rulings that they could indeed do that? Deputize armed militia to patrol the border and shoot people who try and cross that's uh... great right so now here's a thing yeah uh... Alex doesn't realize the pritzker uh... one yeah i think he still thinks rounder is the uh... that's fine but leaving aside his share is uh... four year old and hey the Illinois politics listen what are we gonna get a different billionaire next year? It's fine, we'll be all right.

So leaving that aside, I think that Tucker is legitimately calling people garbage. I do agree with you. Because otherwise what he's saying doesn't make sense. I, that's what, the only thing that makes sense to me. Yeah. He cannot be describing it as there's... There's litter.

It's not... There's littering. No, I mean... And that makes Abbott a traitor to the country. I mean, come on. It is... Intense to humanization. And I think Alex gets it because he doesn't miss a beat.

Yeah. Going along the same road. No, nobody felt like they were confused by Tucker using a Sinecta key. Yeah. Uh, when it should not be there. Yeah, man. Yeah. Freedy fucked up.

Yeah. Pretty fucked up. You know, because the first thing that I thought, the first thing I thought was the fun little... Oh, did you know that Don't Mess with Texas was actually even to help stop littering? Because they didn't want Texas. That's the first thing you thought about. That's the first thing I thought about it's like Oh, well, that's not Tucker. Tucker thought people are garbage and then Tucker was like no people are garbage and I was like, oh, right. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Also not a good idea to just arm random people and have them deputized to be malicious on the border. We've seen a litany of abuses that have been carried out by people who took that upon themselves to do. A lot of people who are guests on Alex's show over the years, in fact, who have maybe kidnapped people at gunpoint. We need to compile a list of similar type questions because they are regularly asked. The questions of the like that are like like why don't people do blank? Because they're questions that have repeated answers throughout history. Yeah, the same questions. We've all answered over and over and over and over so many times

Yeah, right so that whenever somebody like this is why we need AI not for any reason like when Whenever Tucker says something like that rhetorically, why don't we just boo, then the AI will boom, because in 1908, 300 million people died, you know? It wouldn't help. It wouldn't help, but that's what it is. Because the end result is Tucker wants people to terrorize. Yeah, no, that's the idea. He wants people who are coming over the border to be terrorized in the ways that it has gone

wrong when vigilantes have taken this shit upon themselves. He wants that in order to dissuade people from coming to the country. Yeah, he wants floating dead bodies in the Rio Grande to keep people away. Yeah, I mean granted he'd probably be all squeamish about the imagery of that. Fuck, can we let people do this? He would be scandalized by the imagery of it, but the effect of that is essentially what you would like to be. So the fact that this has an answer doesn't stop him from breathlessly asking the question as if there is no answer. Naturally. So the central banks, they want to buy up

everything, but people aren't selling, right? So they got to crush us. And this has to do with bringing in immigrants. Okay. And such. All right. This is a mess. This is a plan. The central banks have unlimited money, but they can't buy all the infrastructure up because people aren't selling. So they've got to crush us and make people so poor that everybody's forced to sell their business, their intellectual property, their physical property. but more importantly, to turn over our bodies to them. We're a UN treaty that, oh Biden right now is trying to ratify, would literally put our

bodies under the control of the United Nations and our medical care policy utterance. So what this is, is really a breaking of our will, a demoralization, that's what the transgenderism is, and two men can have a baby, and puberty blockers, and castrating little boys, and cutting little girls breast off, they've got such hellish stuff coming in this designed global collapse to bring in their world government,

that they've got to just have all these horrors out there, hoping we just throw up our hands and run off to the countryside, which everybody's doing in a way that's good, but at the same time, then they've got full control. It's totally right. And they're going to march out to the countryside next and dig us out. So that's, I mean, you look at the White House Press Secretary who can barely speak English, who's one of the stupidest people I've ever seen and a transparent liar you wouldn't hire her to run your copy machine.

She's the white house press secretary. Why would you do that? And it's not because of her racer who she sleeps with. I think the whole point is she's so obviously repulsive that it makes you feel bad about the country to see her. I mean, that's it. I mean, the fuck was that? It's very reassuring that the Tucker Clarified

that it's not about race. That really makes me more comfortable. What the fuck was that? Wait, is that a White House Press secretary of the Black woman? Yeah. Oh, well, that makes more sense now. Yeah. I like it.

It makes more sense that he was just being racist. Yeah. As opposed to, like, I thought he was just being very, very dismissive professionally. I was like, well like he's also being that no no totally for sure for sure that but I mean as opposed to it being rooted in just a massive hatred for women it's also hatred for women who are not white yes good good good good that's that's all baked in there just hmm double thumbs up. Yeah. Muah. So. M-m-m-m-m. That's great.

Ha ha ha. I don't. What is it, what is it gonna take? Is it gonna take me inventing a gun that shoots bullet-shaped like Sean Spicer? Is that what it's gonna take for us to just be like, you know what, we don't have to make fun of press secretary.

What are we even doing? What's up, what's up, what's up, the mooch? What of press secretary. What are we even doing? What's the mooch? What are we doing? What are we doing? Stop it. Everyone stop. Yeah. Ty's zoned out a little bit while we were listening to that clip because honestly, it just feels like a boring episode of Alex. It really does. Yeah. Oh, God. So yeah, like I said, I mean, it's just rambling. This clip is a little bit longer because it's just rambling. Yeah.

This clips a little bit longer because I'm just going to illustrate this. It's mostly just Tucker, let Nalex go. That the big banks on record brag, they've penetrated the cabinets to quote, Klaus Schwab, they've put their operatives in to cut off our energy, demoralize us, release the hardened criminals, put the political activists in prison, continue to cut off the resources to make an angrier world. demoralizes, release the hardened criminals, put the political activists in prison, continue to cut out the resources to make an angrier world. Klaus Schwab says, we're going to make the world collapse.

We're going to have everybody turn against each other. We're going to blame the political classes that we own and control. And then when we're done, we'll bring in our new solution. First, they have to demolish the cultures and societies that we had before with the fentanyl, with the open borders, with the demoralization. And then they bring in their next phase, which is a high-tech, casual society, robot-drone-controlled nightmare, more than half of the US and their official U.M.A.P.S. That's 50%. That they've had for more than 25 years. There are some of my first films.

So half the US off- off limits to humans. All cars left to have GPS. Everybody in my law have to have a cell phone at all times. Australia just did this last year. You're trying to push it through. And that's the admitted. Imagine Tucker sitting like, whoo. Every car is is a robot. He'll, GPS controlled. California is moving to ban all the quote, classic cars. That's any car that doesn't have a digital, uh, big mission and they admit it's for control. So if people think things are bad now, the straight jacket, the ball and chain is going on.

It's all being militarily run. Our military is great men and women, but at the top, our military has been globalist training. Reel it in. Tucker, what are we doing? He's got to stop this. He's got to stop this. Every general, every person under their control, and that's why it came out of the

UK and Europe and also here in Canada, you put the headlines. Defense Department purposely scared public into lockdowns, masking and taking inoculations. UK headline, British Ministry of Defense secretly brainwashed and terrorized public. Canada, same headline. They even let you know, oh, the military is here to do this. And now the CIA and Justice Department is there to help surveil the public to stop disinformation. And it turned out, of course, almost all that disinformation was true. Always. About everything. So. Always. We have to understand. Our governments have been seized. The big corporations want to get rid of the American idea. You've got 50 acres

in your house and a business and a farm, and you can take care of your family and you're independent. They have to destroy all that because the rest of the world aspires to that. Instead, they want 15-minute cities, central bank digital currencies. They want all of these systems that track and trace everything you do in the social credit scores. And the plan for the rest of the public,

I mean, we're talking about% is 250 square foot coffin apartments, 5G bathing you in them, literally eating bug protein. And I told people 10 years ago, they're gonna push bugs in the public, so I read it in their white papers. Now, it's already grocery stores all over the US, all over Europe. There is a bit of fear of buying it.

The cricket meal into the food, very toxic. Undisclosed, yeah. It's got kite in it. Yeah, but they'll just give it a number. It's like it's got like a code. And you ask again, why would you do that? Because it's all about breaking our will. They don't want people to aspire to open free societies.

Yeah, there's a lot of ways. There's decadence. There's issues, but there's freedom. They want to train us to live on carbon rationing, food rationing, a very dystopian world. You'll own nothing, you'll have nothing, and you'll be happy. These are quotes. I have to say, I bet there, I don't know how long into this, we are 30 minutes or something. I bet there are a lot of people watching who are thinking, holy smokes, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Alex Jones. I'm supposed to hate this guy.

Like, where's the lie and what you just said? I'm not sucking up. I'm sincere. Obviously, tricking people into agreeing with Alex is the primary function of this interview. So it's not surprising to hear Tucker attempting to restate the goal here. But he asked where the lie was. So from that last clip, I'm going to list off the lies that jumped out to me. Okay.

One, Claude Schwab did not admit that they put in operatives to cut off energy, demoralized people, etc. True. Two, there's not a plan in place to release hardened criminals. True. Three, Alex is calling jail time for the people who planned the riot on January 6th, putting the political activists in prison, which is dishonest framing.

Nah. Four, Klaus Schwab didn't say that he's going to make the world collapse. Five. You can't do two bugs. Klaus Schwab didn't say he's going to have everyone turn against each other. Six. No one has announced plans for high tech cashless society robot drone controlled nightmares. Seven, more than half of the United States is not slated to be off limits to humans. It would be very strange choice to make. Eight, all cars are not legally required to have GPS. Nine, Australia did not require everyone carry a phone at all times. Ten no one is announced to plan to force everyone

to have a cell phone if they leave the house. Eleven California is not banning classic cars. Twelve the top of our military has not been new world order globalist trained for 30 to 40 years. 13 not all of the generals are under globalist control. Fourteen almost all of the COVID disinformation didist control. Sure. Fourteen, almost all of the COVID disinformation did not turn out to be correct. Good that is also true. Fifteen, the government does not want to destroy the idea of you having a house and a family.

I don't know if that's true, maybe they do. Sixteen, the US is not going to have a central digital, central bank digital currency, the way Alex understands it. Yeah, yeah. Seventeen, the US does not have a social credit score or anything approximating it. Mines nine. Eight 18, there's no plan for 99% of the population to live in coffin apartments. Where would you sleep? 19, cricket meal is not toxic. 20, the bugs that are in your food are not there because

class 12 wanted you to eat the bugs. But because corporations can't produce food at scale without the risk of some bugs getting into those regulations. That's just how it is. 21, you'll own nothing and be happy that quote is entirely out of context. That's not even a complete list, but there are 21 points of dishonesty or outright lies from just four minutes of Alex talking. I'm sure that Tucker cares about the where's the lie. He's not.

He's just pretending that nothing in there is, oh, I see, everything you say is real, and I agree with it, and he about my audience should love it. Yeah, I mean, it is a very openly cynical, perhaps to a point of creating a black hole in Sivara's just being like, none of what you say, I'm like looking directly at the camera and saying none of what he says means to anything. Mm hmm.

I'll just tell you what to think. Yeah. And I can't, I cannot find fault with this man. I mean, right? Just, just like, that's exactly what Alex said about Putin. Right. I mean, it is, it is. It is just like don't, don't force me to listen to Alex make noises if all you want is for him to be there.

And then you to point and then go, this good now. You should like. Yeah, exactly. Just do that. Right. I mean, I just fucking put it in. Put them under a jar of glass. So I don't have to listen to his bullshit. Well, here, here is actually where the interview took a little bit of a turn for me. And I thought like we're approaching parity level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things I find so striking about you, having watched you on and off over the years, and this must be a burden for you personally, but your ability to see people at a deeper level or to see things in them that are not obvious

to the rest of us. And I want to give a specific example. So there's a guy called Brian Steltcher who had a media show on CNU. I first met Brian Stelcher when he was a high school student, or a first-year college student, because he would hang around the show I worked on at the time at CNN. This was 20 years ago, at least. And I always thought he was awkward and weird and probably had a super creepy personal life, but I never took him seriously. There's a pretty famous clip, and I wanna play it right now,

of you critiquing Brian Steltcher, and you take him a flip of him. We were seriously than I ever did, and I think we're right too. So he's not gonna do it, is he? Pretty famous clip of you, Brian Steltcher. Hell on earth. He wants to run your life.

He wants to control every aspect of your life, because he knows he is a cowardly degenerate sack of anti-human trash. I pledge before my heavenly father that I will resist them every way I can. These people are the literal demon spawn of the pit of hell. Look at him. And you know what? He is better than you. If you keep letting him run your life. He runs

your kids. He runs the schools. He runs the banks. This guy, this spirit, this smiling, leering devil that thinks you can't see what he is. He is your enemy, period. All the narcissistic, devil-worshipping, self. Sure. I see you enemy. I see you enemy, enemy, enemy. You are my enemy. And I swear, total resistance to you,

with everything I've got. This ingenuous fake false broke back, twisted, a defiler, a betrayer, a backstabber, a devil. You only got to see you, Stelter. I see you, you understand me? Spando, what you think of me and my family? I see you right back. You understand that?

You want to stand that, Delta? I've only watched that several hundred times. And I laugh every time, but I also, there's something to, if Brian Celter had absolute power, would you and your family survive? Of course not. You wouldn't. You'd be, of course not.

And neither would mine. So there's a lot that's true about what you said. How did you perceive that? Rest of us just made fun of them. This is bordering on parody levels of a sequiastness. This is just nuts. Ah! That's, but he's a twisted weird little elf.

Who? Tucker. Something. Something's going on there. It's just disorienting. To hear somebody play a clip like that where Alex just loses his shit about Brian Stelter. They turns around and asks the serious question, but you know, this is actually very insightful. This is adding on to my pile of things where I think Alex had creative control. If this feels like Alex.

If, obviously, if Stelter was a God-king. You would be dead. Clearly. Is that... That's... What a straight, what a fucking... That's bizarre. What a fucking weird, what a weird fucking world view life-king way to the fucking fuck off.

I always dreaded. I always dreaded the notion of McNeil from McNeil error I always worried about him becoming a god king and how I would my family would not be safe if McNeil if no Jim McNeil no Jim Lerror. Yeah, I can't remember McNeil's first But yeah, if you became a god King, my family would be screwed. I mean, like one,

it's such a bizarre obsession. First off, somewhere, somewhere inside, you have to know that outside of the very specific context that you have existed, you don't exist to him. You're not real. Brian Seltzer does not care about you.

Well, I actually hold on to that thought. Oh, God no. Oh, there's a part of me though that's weird's weird like why doesn't Tucker play the clips of Alex rambling about her Stelter's a pedophile. Yeah, like that. Why doesn't it like literal demons possess him and all this shit? Why it's weird that he chose you know, and that one's more fun. It is yeah, but Traia you are my I think it's I think it's just the depth from with you know He does have a diet for hands at fucking work So the reason that that clip is at all the notable or people like responded to it at all is because it's fucking hilarious

That Alex is losing his shit about Brian stelter. It's Brian stelter. Yeah, it's Brian He does it's just it's just Brian stelter man So now when you say that Brian's elder doesn't think about Alex also what is I don't like I don't like Tucker Telling me this personal story about Brian's elder is a young kid and then years later on he's been a She's piece of shit to Brian's elder then to well that's bullying over decades What a fucking asshole Mike down for this next clip because when you're talking about bullying. Oh God. I mean, I don't know if you want me to reveal this, but we had dinner on our barn last night and there were some drinks. And after dinner, you and my producer called Steltzer on the phone. And what was so, and it was on speaker so I listened to it. What

was so interesting was, you know, you've been very clear in a very direct, pretty masculine way, I would say, about how you feel about Brian Steltcher. There's not a lot of confusion about your views on Steltcher after clips like that, which that was he seemed because he Googles himself compulsively. He was very kind of syrupy sweet with you. And that's why I was sarcastic and told him I want to date him. You did. Yeah. In fact, the exact line that you had was, Brian, I'm not usually gay, but I want you. And he seemed a little bit out of my things, open to it or whatever, but he wasn't shocked by it.

And he's like, give me your phone number. Give me, yeah, let's watch it. Yeah. And then he hit your producer up. Please give me his number right now. Yeah, that was interesting. But I was being silly with him. But there was also a line, he goes,

oh, Alex Jones, I said, I want you to call him my show. And he said, oh, you still got a show? And I went, no, you're the one that doesn't have a show. Oh, sorry, I said it so. It's so boring. It was so boring to like recount conversations people were away. It was funny though.

But you said, you know, you, you know, you're off TV now, but you were a real star. I mean, not on CNN, but on my show. It's so good. And then there was the point when you said that as you were refrigerated or running and then you said you should go catch it. Oh man, that was classic. These are adults.

Alex is 50. They got drunk and break cold right in stelter the night before this. See, that's fun. I'm stoked about that. I'm not. Them telling this story is the sad one. It's very sad. One, I, I, I, on record, I don't like telling,

I guess you had to be there stories. No. And I definitely don't want to, one, I don't want me telling one to be recorded. Sure. You know what I'm saying? It's a little, it's a little tacky. Like, just don't broadcast that. Don't broadcast you enjoying the story me telling one to be recorded. Sure. It's a little tacky.

Like just don't broadcast that. Don't broadcast you enjoying a story that other people can enjoy. Wait a second. Isn't your bright spot you and Alfred telling a bunch of you had to be their stories? No, no, no, those are charming fun stories. All of my guess you had to be their stories are boring and sad and I leave them alone. Fair enough. There's a difference.

Yeah, there's a huge difference. There's, there's, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, I disagree I disagree with you that It's cool and fine that these two adults Yes, we can disagree on that I think contextually. It's a little embarrassing. I agree with you and these are children I agree but What I think is we should all be children. I've had Alex's phone number for years. I could have called him at any point.

Right, that's true, but that wouldn't have been fun. No. That wouldn't have been fun. And they didn't even have fun. That's the other, that's what it is. They're having fun now talking about it because they're creating a scenario where they did have fun, which is not the scenario that actually went down.

Where Brian Stelter fucking made Alex pissed off by making a joke about how Alex doesn't have a show anymore before Alex could make a joke that about how Stelter doesn't have a show anymore. So they've rewritten this whole thing and now they can laugh about how actually we're the ones who are twice this clever and funny as everybody else. And can you imagine just being whole-minded in your own business and then drunkenly Tucker's producer calls you and boop it's Alex drunk on the other end of line telling you that you want to fuck you?

Yes! That sounds reasonable, right? It's a weird night. It does, but it does seem like a night where somebody gets even hung, you're like, oh yeah, oh Alex is drunken calling me that's a that I'm Brian Seltsman This sounds right and then you hang up and you move on with your life. It's ridiculous stupid So the talk or Tucker is shocked that Stelter would be so kind and so nice on the phone when Alex has been so mean to him instead of looking at this as Oh man, who's capable of forgiveness.

And understand. No, no. If he's out there was God, you would be dead. Because Stalters nice on the phone, no, he's weak. But Trayard. But Trayard. But if someone had talked about you that way

and then called you late night after a couple of drinks, you'd say, you know, up yours, pal, you know what I mean? Like buzz off. I'm not taking your call, but he kind of sucked up to you. That's a very weird passive aggressive posture. Well, I've said a lot of really mean things about him and an attack team. And when I watch the clips out of context, I feel guilty. But he was going around with Oliver Darcy.

They would brag on Twitter and literally hitting hundreds of my sponsors. And I say hundreds. I'd have like 20. They take them all. I get 20 more. Take them all. This one on for years. So you don't get a sponsor.

You get them. They're doing great. He takes it away from you. And then he brags the human dog dart. I was taking off Twitter, not for the Sandy Hook stuff that came later that they focused on. Look it up. They had the former head of Twitter and the lawyer on Joe Rogan about four years ago.

And Joe said, why did you make an Alchon's lawyer goes, okay, let me open my clipboard. She goes, here's why. He was mean to Oliver Darcy. So I'm at the Capitol. They're having censorship hearings. Sundar Pachai is there. I just confronted him and all who runs Google. And you guys are welcome to use it if you want.

And then that was at the Senate. So now that we're going over to our house meeting and there's Oliver Darcy in the line. He gets to get in. I don't even get into a hearing where they didn't attack me. They'd attack me at the last hearing, but I don't get to face my accuser. And so I get in his face. I don't threaten him. But I say you are an evil man. You're unamerican. Come after my free speech. harassing my sponsors, trying to get me off the internet. And the last place I was on was Twitter. They'd held out. And so Jack Dorsey had held out. And so Jack Dorsey admitted, well, the last straw was, I bullied Oliver Darcy.

And so that's why I was de-platformed. Elon Musk thinks it was the Sandy Hook thing. And notice, you know that in most cultures, bullying Oliver Darcy would be like a right of passage, like you couldn't, like that would be a positive good, right? Booh! He's literally on Twitter, taking my sponsors, calling for me to be silenced. So this is all a lot of shit, and the biggest part of it that's ridiculous is the idea that Stelter and Darcy were just constantly taking Alex's sponsors away.

Alex would get new sponsors, and they'd come along and muck it all up. The reason this is idiotic is that Alex's business model is specifically set up to insulate himself from this kind of pressure campaign. His primary sponsors are his own products, and the outside groups that work with him are run by zealots like himself that would never care what these dudes say. My Patriot supply isn't going anywhere. This is by design. He knows that he says stuff that's going to anger people and people are going to be able

to exert economic pressure. Yeah. That's why from the beginning, before he decided he needed more money and wanted to branch out even larger, he had Genesis Communications Network that was run by Ted Anderson, who also ran Midas Resources. Ted Anderson very explicitly laid it out that they were a one talent business in terms of they had, what was it, Genesis communications needed sponsors and Midas resources needed to advertise. And so they worked hand in glove with each other.

Alex had just that and the couple of weirdos like the Limerick soap guy would come in. That was it. They designed a system where public pressure could not get rid of sponsored. To be clear, let's just reinforce what that means is that these two arch capitalists have specifically gone out of their way to protect themselves from what capitalism would do to them if it were allowed to go unchecked. They were trying to protect themselves from the forces of the free market because they knew that they would anger and run a foul on it.

So it's not always a good thing. Not really. So this is a real concern that other much more successful shows have to worry about. Tucker had to deal with it on Fox where there was a pressure campaign applied to get his sponsors to drop their support of the show and Alex wants to get in on that by pretending that that was a worry he had as well. The second thing there is that Alex is not quite getting the reason that he was kicked off Twitter correct.

It may well have been that the time that he confronted Oliver Darcy was when the getting kicked off happened and it may even be the case that that was the last straw, but that wasn't the sole reason. There were three primary reasons that Twitter's lawyer Vagaya Gidey gave on-rogan for removing Alex from Twitter. The first is that he'd received multiple strikes to his account for posting things like a video of a giant man punching an 11 year old girl in the face.

He received other strikes for a behavior that came up in the line of inciting harassment who was right on that line against individuals and his posts on Periscope broadcast and the interaction with Oliver Darcy was possibly a tipping point in that. This wasn't a political or journalistic confrontation that Alex made with Darcy and the people at Twitter I believe correctly assessed it to be an act of targeted harassment. Alex was doing this as a performance to incite further abuse and harassment to be directed at Darcy, which Twitter didn't feel like was an appropriate use of their site. Alex can oversimplify this

all he wants, but the truth is that when all the other companies kicked him off, Twitter didn't. He had every chance to maintain his Twitter account, despite him being a load of some piece of shit, and he couldn't even manage that. At that time, there was a real feeling that Alex was trying to get himself kicked off Twitter because this, I've been silenced, stick, doesn't really work well when people can just respond, you're still on Twitter. At that point, being kicked off stuff was becoming to be seen as like a mark of valor for people in the extreme right wing as well. And Alex has been pretty zealous about making that his brand.

He got exactly what he wanted, and now he's complaining about getting it, which is ridiculous. But, you know, he's a victim. He's a victim of the forces that are aligned against him. Yeah, some like that. And Tucker, it's his big thing on this episode to reinforce that and push it. So what's the effect on you? And I don't mean even the lawsuits against you and there was an effort to criminally indict you, I guess, just for having bad opinions

or whatever. A bunch of them actually. So that four injuries I've had to respond to, subpoenas about that. My lawyer. When you've committed no crime, you're like the only people in mid-year who's not ginning up race hatred, I would say, just to be totally clear, because it's very common to do that. You don't do that.

And so anyway, and then of course this billion dollar judgment against you for having naughty opinions, which is insane. I really think that Tucker saying that Alex doesn't incite racial hatred over and over again, he's protesting a little too much. Maybe hitting that gong a couple too many times. Hey, not like you, not you don't do that. I'm talking about, it's really easy for other people to do, it's super easy to do it. It's so easy to do that. Everyone else does it.

And in fact, people do it so much that you might do it and people will hear it and think that you're doing it, but you're not doing it. No, no, no, no, no, because you don't do that. No, one of the only who doesn't. You want to. You're so great. But actually, you don't even want to, that's how great you are. You don't even want to do that thing because you don't do that. No, you wanted the only who doesn't. You want to. You're so great. But actually, you don't even want to.

That's how great you are. You don't even want to do that thing that you want to do. Yep. Alex absolutely has not been subpoenaed to four grand juries. And to the extent there have been any grand juries that he's been called to, it's to provide testimony. They weren't trying to indict him. This is all just a load of shit meant

to convey the idea that Alex is a victim. Everything is about downplaying Alex for Tucker. He asked to constantly say that Alex doesn't incite race hatred, which is definitely untrue. Tucker is trying to reassure his audience that Alex isn't a racist, because there's a large percentage of his viewers who haven't come to terms of the fact that they love racists.

They're on their path there, but they haven't quite gotten there yet. Also, this handy hook case has to be presented as being about Alex having naughty opinions because presenting it as it really is would make Alex look really bad. Tucker literally couldn't do this interview successfully if he took that case seriously.

If he did the cursory research he's obligated to do and heard the experiences of the plaintiffs. That case wasn't about Alex having naughty opinions. It was about his concrete actions that caused family members of murder victims to be terrorized. And Alex's claim that he was drunk on air when he was making the claims about them, so please Tucker, show Alex as he is, not the construct you want to make him out to be. This is a pathetic, this childish level of look at the fake version of this man that I want you to admire. Yeah. I really feel like that we should be smart enough to get past the whole. I mean, okay, how about this? All right.

The idea of the trial is that on neutral playing field, facts and reality have sway cannot be fought back against. And people without influence or bias, given the correct and accurate information will make a good decision, right? That's the idea of justice. It's bad as good as we got, right? If all of that happens over the course of like six years

over the course of however many things over all of this bullshit and at the end of all of that those 12 people come back with one and a half billion fucking dollars everybody should just go shit that's a lot maybe we'll just leave this one alone well no because it's all rigged

it's no rigged. It's, no, I mean, listen, winning, winning, it's fucking Putin isn't going to win an election by 1.5 billion votes, that's unreasonable. Only a ridiculous dictator would win by 1.5, it's so ridiculous that you would have to believe that Alex is a asshole. You have to. Maybe, oh baby, it's all rigged. No! believe that Alex is a castle. You have to. Maybe. Or maybe it's all Rick. No. Every election is fucking fraud. That's true.

Because all of that. Sometimes your candidates might lose an election and you need a rationalization for why? They actually won. They secretly won, but it was stolen. So every election is stolen from now on. Every court case is rigged from now on because sometimes the people that you like lose cases,

and you don't wanna let that color the way that you look at them, you don't wanna have to deal with the fact that Alex is a giant piece of shit and did stuff that really caused serious drama to these people. No, it was a rigged case. Cause he, and they're just trying to,

punish him for having not the opinions. Right, right. Cause I like you because of the things that you remind me of me about. And then whenever I see you getting punished for those things, then it makes me think that maybe I'll be punished for doing this. Oh no. So here's a real insightful question that Tucker jumps to. What's that? Just just the chops on this guy. What's it like to spend 25, 30 years connecting the dots and seeing this slow moving storm come toward the country that you were born in?

What effect does it have on you? Since you use the analogy of a storm, it'd be like if I was 100 years ago before they had radar. And I've read about the famous flood, 120-something years ago in Galveston, that killed 10,000 people. Yeah, the hurricane, yeah. Yeah, the hurricane, they didn't have radar. And so they didn't know,

but there are the fishermen out there, catches trimmer, whatever. And then all of a sudden, here comes basically a tidal wave. And if I was one of those fishermen, and I knew my children and my wife were on shore at school or work or whatever, and here comes a 40, 50 foot wave,

I know it's about to kill them, I would not be thinking about myself watching this giant wave come in, I'd go, oh my God, my wife and kids are over there. And so it's not that I'm a hero, it's not even a selflessness, I realized that I was just out in front and ahead of some people in understanding this.

Because a family and research and just things in my life that I saw that encouraged me to get involved in the media, because I was aware of the global, so some things that were going on because my uncle was high level, our aunt Contra, had some other family that worked in clandestine things. So I kind of grew up just around folks

that do what was really going on. Wait, your uncle was high level or uncontrollgod- I thought he was just running an airport. There he was and involved in the dirty stuff. Oh well. It's real bad. Is rib-a- It's fun that this interview just takes for granted now that Alex is right about the idiotic shit he says. I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I- saying that what he normally does on his show, like where are the shout outs to the John Birch Society, who formed the basis for Alex's political ideology?

Where's the talk about God giving Alex a prophetic vision as a child that laid out the full spectrum awareness of history in the world? Where's the talk about periodic downloads from God over chicken fried steak? Alex doesn't get into that stuff because he knows what he's doing here. That kind of talk would make him look insane to a new viewer, and this interview is all about putting on the freshest, most respectable face possible for Alex to present to potential new viewers. Crying about the devil and all that shit, that's for initiated viewers, to keep them interested

and spiritually bully them and to suddenly send you more money. It's a tool that has no use for new eyes though, so Tucker is just talking to this curated water down version of Alex. He's like a bad boy school drug addict bully who puts on a tie and gets a haircut to meet his girlfriend's new girlfriend's parents. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Anyone who knows the bully guy sees past the haircut. Anybody who knows anything about Alex looks at this and is like, why is he not presenting himself as he is?

This is ridiculous. This is like, this is got to be like, I imagine if I'm walking, if I'm watching this in a way that I can respond to it that I's not already, you know, like, I'm already aware of Tucker and Alex, and I've already made up my mind or anything. Like, I imagine somebody walking by the Scientology Center if they have nothing to, if they're shitty day, you know the stuff. The whole stuff that makes you, when you walk by a Scientology Center and see a bright smiling face and somebody say, hi, can I help you?

That makes you go in, you know? This has to be that kind of like going clear moment for so many people because you obviously don't join the sea work, you know, you don't go straight from I had a bad day at work and my boss is an asshole to like, yes, slavery is fine. You know, like it takes a bit, you know? And like-

By degrees. It is strange though, because I don't know how it is, like if Info Wars is the sea org that we're getting to in this analogy, right, what would make you want to join Info Wars from this interview? Do you know what I mean? What would make you join the sea org from this interview? I don't feel it.

Well, maybe you don't but I mean that's what I'm saying if you put yourself in the shoes of somebody who really likes Tucker and you have Tucker presenting this guy as a prophet yeah essentially yeah and that you should not trust your own instincts and anything you've heard about this guy sure that might at least make you curious and if you get lucky and you go over to his show, maybe it's not one of the days where he fake cries and quits on air. Maybe it's not. And then that is a gamble. That is a good point. So no, I mean, I think that the credibility that Tucker is giving him by presenting him like this and saying the things he does about him and and acting so blown away. I think that gets you on the boat.

Ooh, man. Don't join the seahorse. No, it's not a good idea. So Alex goes on to ranting about some of his nightmare, dystopian future ideas. But the globalists have gone from testing phase, beta test phase, into full operational now. And they say, read their writings,

we are going to have a post industrial world by 2030 We will have no personal cars for 2030. You will be eating bugs by 2030 and we will start the Depopulation of 90% of the people by 2045 that is the official WF official you in official club of our own plant What do you mean the population? They want to bring the world population down to 500 billion. But I thought we're going to get inside. No, or no, I guess we're not. Well, you know, we're told now that our children

are to the earth. And we're told all this and Elon Musk is right. And as a hero for pointing out all the actuary show, if you don't have 2.1 children, a man or a woman, people go, well, man, a woman can have 2.1., a man or a woman, people go, well, a man or woman can have 2.1. It's in the aggregate folks on billions. You have a country doesn't have 2.1 or 2.2 replacement rate. Then you don't have people to take care of the old folks, society collapses. And so, Japan's 1.3, at least 1.3, they're done as cultures.

America, without immigrant influx, is about 1.6. That's not viable. America without immigrant influx is about 1.6. That's not viable. And so, and I'm talking about white people only here, but white people are 7% of the world population, maybe 8. And so, I would be sad if it's almost like they're not that important. I mean, I'm sad that the Japanese within 100 years, there might be 20 million of them.

But just to my previous question about, and without getting too personal, but like, I mean, I feel a little bit innervated and down just hearing your dot connecting here. Like, what's the effect on you over 25 years? Hey, buddy, I don't wanna talk about demographic stuff with you right now, because I'm pretty sure this is gonna get much more racist than I am generally.

Let's go into specifics about how many of each race I want to live at any given point in time Japanese 900 net weight Yeah, I feel like Tucker was trying to ask him what effect this has on him What does it feel like to be so ahead of the curve and so right? The racial breakdown of how the world is gonna come down over the club of Rome. Yeah Let's not do that. No, no, no. I was wondering how you feel. Very gentle.

Gently move this back. Feel. Right. So here we go with another attempt at that question. Okay. What's the effect on you over 25 years? I mean, if you literally foreseen 9-11 before it happens and you did it and it can be proven,

we just proved it. Like, what is that? Boo! With that weird ability. Well, I mean, I know specific clip, I, I specifically say call the White House, tell them we know they're going to let al Qaeda attack us. Been a lot and then, and then take our rights. I say call the White House. I put the number out. So I put the money where mouth was. And that's the only time I ever said call the White House. It's home stop, particular event. I'm now saying we need to call the White House

and say, you've let tens of thousands of military age men of the Middle East in, we know a lot of them are Hezbollah and Amos, the FBI has confirmed that. And so, winning it is big terror attacks, which I believe will probably happen in America. We're not gonna have Homeland Security get more funds and more power

and grow up us at the airports more. I want prison time for the agencies and groups that have allowed this. And I want, I want, oh Biden, I want Biden in peach now. Okay. Okay. There's no answer to Tucker's question about what effect this prophetic power has had on Alex over the years because it hasn't had any effect. Alex doesn't actually think he has this gift or at least to any extent that he does, it's

a function of his delusions and they're not delusions that he reflects on. The whole Alex Jones was right about his predictions thing isn't real, it's a marketing campaign and it relies on out of context manipulatively edited short clips or Alex is actually wrong. It's a game and if you actually believe it, you're the mark in the scam. Since Alex has no insight into how he's dealt with being a prophet, the only place he can really go is inciting against immigrants, apparently. Also for what it's worth, Alex has absolutely said to call the White House about a ton of shit. Yep, yep, yep. He's pretending that he only said it once and it was about 9-11, so this new anti-immigrant talking point holds more weight. But that's just another trick. On May 5,

2011, he told the audience to call the White House because the globalists were going to set off a dirty bomb. On December 26, 2012, he told the audience to call the White House because the globalists are going to set off a dirty bomb. On December 26th, 2012, he told the audience to call the White House because Obama stole the last election, which Alex claims he never has said, and the globalists are going to come take all the guns. On August 5th, 2009, Alex told the audience to call the White House because the globalists were going to attack the public with a bio weapon, which turned out to be SARS, and basically a cold run of the narratives that he's not doing about everything old is new again on November 12th 2014 he told the audience to call the White House because the globalists were going to attack the public with the bio weapon this time Ebola trying to do that routine again

throughout that stretch in 2019 Alex was constantly telling the audience to call the White House to get Trump to pardon Roger Stone on September 8th 2009 Alex told the audience to call the White House to get Trump to pardon Roger Stone. On September 8th 2009 Alex told the audience to call the White House to tell Obama to meet with Charlie Sheen. The point is that Alex does this shit all the time, and he lies about not doing it to give whatever narrative he's covering at the moment undeserved weight. He's a liar and a con man, running this con with expert assistance from Tucker. I mean, Tucker could not be doing a better job of helping prop up Alex's scammy bullshit.

It is, it is really a two-man game. Yeah. Right now, it's kind of almost disgustingly fucking find the lucky lady ass shit. Like this is been, yeah, wow. So Alex does finally get around to answering the question of what it is like to deal with being so right for so long. Bad. And you asked a question, this is really taken a toll on me, answering the question of what it is like to deal with being so right for so long. Bad.

And you asked the question, this is really taken a toll on me, not the fake lawsuits, not the weaponization, not the platforming. I was already getting exhausted five, six years ago. And when I married my second wife is amazing. I have three children, my previous wife and one of them, you know, they're all great children and one with her. We were in Hawaii getting married like seven years ago. And I said to her, I said, I wanna just write books

and make documentary films, and maybe you an occasional podcast. At that time I've been on air like 22 years, six days a week, three hours a day at least. And I said, I just don't want this burden, this big crew. I love the crew, but I don't want to do this anymore. I said, I want to move the country. And I want to just, you know, the business, you take it a physical toll to every day. Look at the stuff. And now I've gotten the point, which even though I say don't let

them break your world, I'll let them moralize you, that's because I understand the process. It's happened to me. Used to, I have hundreds of incredible stories and clips every day. I couldn't wait to expose the bad guys. Now I look at it once, I'm ready, I study it, and then half the time I get on air, and I just go, let's just take calls, or I start talking about some fun story just because I, mentally, cannot sit there and stare into the abyss. Or I quit. And stare there. I mean, my, or the other press secretary that's meant to enrage us and demoralize us.

And I think that's a defense mechanism that's healthy. So I think we all have to be balanced. And I'm not mad about the press secretary because she's black. Hold the hold on. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. If, if I, it's a good thing he doesn't have a boss.

Yeah. Because if I was his boss and I just heard him say, I can't do my job anymore. if it's a good thing he doesn't have a boss. Yeah, because if I was his boss and I just heard him say, I can't do my job anymore. I don't like it and my heart isn't in it. And I want to quit. I'd be like, okay, cool. Then let's start finding you or run. Yeah, and it's all low to shit.

He's acting like, oh, I'm so passionate about writing books, but you don't even write the books. You don't write shit. You don't do anything. You don't even do an occasional podcast. I love the way you're presenting the current workflow though, as being a result of not wanting to look into the abyss. As opposed to it, he's just gotten lazy

and he currently relies on narratives and talking points that require no actual preparation. Underneath what he's talking about is bullshit. He knows that, so why study the bullshit? Just make up whatever you want. Most of the time Alex will just see a tweet posted by someone like Jack Pasobic and then yell about what he imagines the attached article says. And that's fine. That's what his audience want. And they don't expect more from him. If Alex wanted to, he could sit down and do

hard hitting shows about the evils of the globalists. But that's too difficult. The audience doesn't want depth anyway. They just want the catharsis of watching an emotional outburst that includes the kind of bigotry that they enjoy and buzzwords that resonate with them. And Alex provides that for them, so why try harder? He would be an idiot if he tried harder. Yeah, it would be, well, I mean, he loses his job. It's a waste.

Yeah. It's a waste of effort. You'd be providing the thing the audience doesn't actually want. Yeah, you'd be, I mean, it's counter actually want. Yeah, you mean it's counterproductive. Yes. So the globalists, they want death, that's what they want. Share. And this clip is stupid.

The globalists are so scared of death, they have all this money, all this power, all this control. So they're obsessed with finding life is such a technology, merge you with machines, becoming gods. That's their new religion, that's the transhumanism. And that's where all their funding goes. But that's only one side of the coin. The other side is that if you're going to be God, you've got to be in charge of death. So because they fear death and they project their hatred of themselves onto us, then if they can poison us, dumb us down, sterilize us,

depopulate us, they believe that's more for them at a very greedy level. So they want to be death, the destroyer of worlds to quote Oppenheimer, I'd become death destroyer worlds. And at the same time cheat death. So it's a total subconscious obsession. Oppenheimer came up with that consciously focusing on it getting over it. Instead they turn it loose to their animal lower alligator brain and are now manifesting all this because they've not

Embrace the higher level of understanding. I agree with that completely. What? So why is Alex explaining to Tucker the trans-dimensional beings told the globalists that they need to kill everyone off? That's a really big part of Alex's worldview It's so weird that Alex doesn't bring up other globalists want to kill everyone because that was part of their pact with the literal devil And the people that kill Or sacrifices to feed the planet Saturn which may or may not be a portal to hell. That's right. I remember that one. Yeah. Oh, wait Oh, I remember Alex is trying to present the cleaned up version of himself here So he leaves those explicitly crazy beliefs at home to avoid scaring off potential new customers

Yeah, this is just a ridiculous charade. Yeah Yeah, even more so now because like when you say that now we're having this conversation, we're listening to this interview. And when he says the one that we agree is the cleaned up version, that sounds way crazier to me than if he's just like, oh yeah, the devil made me do it. I'm like, oh, thank God, the devil. That at least doesn't make sense. Right? We can deal with stuff not making sense.

Whenever you try and make sense out of it, that's fucking insane. Yeah. Yeah. They fear death but want to control death. Nope, stop right there. Right. You are done. It's the devil.

Hooray. Yes, got it. I'm on board. We're back in. So I'm going to jump around here a bit because I there's just long stretches where Alex is rambling And it's all just stuff we've talked about before. Yeah, so I'm gonna jump here to the part where Alex is They're in a bit of a plug section because oh my god Of course, why did not you assume that there would be a whole chunk? Yeah, Tucker's asking about the supplements you sell sure

And then this we're gonna start this clip in media res where Alex is talking about his book and how great it is. Right. And then this leads to the whiskey incident. How did decent people prevail? They believe they can push it by deception. That's why people are aware of why they're cutting off the fertilizer to collapse the third world, to then flood us with those giant populations. They will then control

and give voting rights to. And if you don't want to give them voting rights, then you're a race to see. That's why the lockdown's biggest crime wasn't just the 80 plus million of the UN estimates starved the death of the last three and a half years. On top of the normal 15 million starved death each year, you looked it up. They then use those giant masses of people that are fleeing total collapse as their new political underclass. So, so that's why it's so vital to not just challenge the great reset in the new world order, eugenics operation of the transhumanist, it's vital to then give an alternative plan and to have an alternative debate about that plan, and that's what the great awakening gets into.

So, but if you give up on that, you also sell bourbon. Man, you are really being nice today, Tucker. Well, you know what? I hate selling products, but I like this product because I love the name. Look at this right here. This, my friends, is a gift to your crew because I don't hate drinks. I had some drinks with them last night. When we call it a product, it's delta. If this... Some of the crew does drink, yes, that's true.

So, this is where you've got a few other models for you out there. So, I can't even open this thing. It's sealed. Maybe got locked on your plane. Anyways, can somebody open this? I'm like here embarrassing. No, hold on. I think that the center thing, I don't, I don't travel with guns very often, so I don't know how to operate these. I'm gonna smash this son of a bitch, yo. I'm gonna whack this off.

There we go. Son of a bitch. All right, goddamn it. Look at that, it doesn't come like this in stores. I'm gonna kill the people that come over this. Just walk that in the studio. We're rolling. I better don't kill me.

All right, we're rolling. I don't have to plug you in. Oh my god. I got a lot of points when you get to here. Okay, that was amazing. This whiskey does not come with a hatchet to open it or a black light But if you doesn't come in the black light. No, but if you have one, but if you have a black light By the way, I don't like an ever soldered product on the air, but I'm proud to be here. Oh, dude. Come on. I'm totally all about it. Come on

Um, I think that I felt forced It couldn't try a little harder to open this case. Man. It felt like, well, there's nothing, you know, like I said, there's nothing really exciting happening. There's no like, memeable moment or something. Yeah. And it just feels like you kind of needed it. And the guy going like, we're rolling, it kind of makes it feel like this feels a little produced.

I mean, but it's what it feels is the wrong amount of produced though. It's the wrong amount. It's the amount of produced where I mean, but it's what it feels is the wrong amount of produced though. It's the wrong amount. It's the amount of produced where somebody thought, hey, this is a good idea. They remembered times people have done bits similar to this in the past and they assumed, fuck it, I'll just do one of those. Yeah. Without ever actually doing any of those legwork. It doesn't feel chaotic really. No, it feels like it's supposed to feel chaotic Right doesn't really it's an inorganic yeah, if you if you want to do the bit like that then you have to make it a bit Alex needs to cut the actual whiskey bottle over the hatchet you need to do the fucking thing yeah

Drink the glass Tucker. Yeah, I mean it's just a listen if you want to go over the top then do it Alex drunkenly throwing hatchets at his own camera on Christmas Eve. Yes, that's chaotic energy. That's chaos. This is not this is weak. Yeah, so after they do their plugs They get to talking about Biden and how he's he's a old loony man. Oh bad They don't get into the part about him plumping though. He's bags of blood. Oh come on 10 bags of Blood I want more blood. I want more blood. He's plumping for sure related material turns. He walks around the White House naked and he's on drugs fun But I actually have a contact for you. I should be able to hear it from them But this is over all you actually hear from yourself. I think they'll tell you off right now. I think they're willing to talk to you

But yeah, he he is completely out of his mind. He wanders around for the entire two and a half years. He's getting worse, naked in the wild. He's even more naked now. In the middle of the night doesn't know who he is. He had a bunch of drugs, a bunch of fedamines in the morning, that they've got a drug in at night. Sometimes he's got to though, he'll like be out for the morning for a while. That comes back out at night for a ball. That's when there's a real problem. He is on drugs. I have established that. I know someone who witnessed it. I'm not even at this.

I know someone personally who witnessed him. Witnessed him. Taking emphetamines. This was during the 2016, 2020 election. So how's this gonna get huge? I know you don't play games. You've been... No, I don't play games with this.

I'm serious. No games. You said the NSA spying on me high level and then a month later they went, yes, we're spying on tour cars. Yeah, I know. So, so you don't make stuff up. And so what I'm saying here is, Biden's a liability for him. Trump's a liability. What do they do? They have a right-winger. They'll claim assassinate Biden. And they'll have a left-winger, assassinate Trump. That then gets the country even in more of a fighting against each other. And then they put in Gavin Newsom, uh, and, you know, somebody like Mike Pinscher, who knows, but I really think the next 13 months is the most critical time, not

just in American history, but world history. He's plumping. He's taking a Fedamine. Sure. He's walking around naked. Right. And so the globalist has got to kill him and Trump, in order to get Gavin Newsom and Mike Pence a unity ticket that no one is into I can't imagine something less interesting to the entirety of the United States than Gavin Newsom Mike Pence running your country. Yeah, also Alex usually says Michelle Obama, but calls her big Mike. And I think that maybe Alex isn't sure if that flies here. So he's going just with Gavin Newsom and Mike Pence. Yeah, I was going to say.

So I feel like he is silly to be concerned. Oh, all sorts of bigotry clearly flies here. There's no need for decorum. How alive is like, what's the distance between like weekend of Bernie's two and where we're at as far as we're so far past it. So, well, I mean, no, I'm saying okay, so weekend of Bernie's two. We can't do Bernie's looks like a friend of stair movie compared to who do in order to get him to walk

so now we're just drug and Biden right but also Alex probably should cool out about people taking amphetamines calm down I think we should all cool out about people taking amphetamines well especially Alex I mean especially Alex but yeah I made what I don't know what do people think our president do people think our presidents have not always been consistently fucked up? But also, I mean, amphetamines, if he takes amphetamines that could just mean he's on a prescription for something that is medically, like appropriate. Sure. You know, there's no reason to think like he's doing some illicit substance.

Or he fucking had his somebody stop it at truck stop and he did some trucker speed he's fine he's fine it's legal wait wait hold on well I mean legal and illegal are different at truck stops I don't know what they mean but anyways if the president wants to do some trucker speed to get through a fucking ball that's fine that's fine all right I'm fine with that so look there might be a war then you you've got a escalation. Remember a year ago Biden said, you can't give F-16s and Abrams tanks and cruise missiles to the Ukrainians, that's World War Three. Now they're doing it.

So as Russia wins that war, as Colonel McGregor documented a few months ago with you, with NATO is escalating, well, that leads right to nuclear war. So we're so close, and that fundamentally makes me so mad. This transcends politics. Since when do Democrats love war? Since when do Democrats love the intelligence agencies? They love them now. And so really the democratic...

So dark. Just like a Republican party is a beachhead for sanity and populism. It's not perfect, but it's a beachhead. The Democratic party is totally turned over to evil. Tucker, come the fuck down. Fuck your bow tie a wreck war shit. Oh, I can't believe it. So scandalized by a Democrat supporting war. It used to be. Oh, back back in back in the more gentle times. Also, I believe that Biden said that troops

on the ground was not that would be World War three. Yeah, Alex is changing that now in order to to fit his purposes. Yeah. Lotus shit. Yep. So anyway, the 2024 election. Oh, boy, I can't believe we're still going. We got Biden's going to be killed. Sure. Trump's going to be killed.

Sure. Probably. Probably. But why even have the election really? It's like, OK, and this is a new angle I'm listening to. You think that we're going to see an election day 2024 a ballot with Biden and Trump on it. I've been saying I think they may assassinate and we're clearly at a heart attack. And then I was thinking about each one individually, but I think when you said that a

month ago, it was prescient that that's the next move. That's the, if I get in their mind and I'm evil, I'm Machiavelli, that is what they have to do. But the election just forces the point. I mean, I guess I actually don't think that their preference is overt violence or anything that people notice. I mean, they much rather, they're just stealth. Who's saying? Right.

The Clover. The Clover. The Clover. But I just think, you know, there's an election on the books and like something's going to happen. Well, as we were saying, all their tactics of covert aren't working. So as we saw with JFK in 1963 and Dallas, they will go over. And so we have governors declaring emergencies to take the guns.

All of that is, and essentially Democrats are against sanctuary cities, whether they're the ones saying governor Hochill and the mayor of New York come here, come here. Now they're like, oh, we never said come here. I think it's dawning on Democrats, they've been betrayed. And maybe there's some point where Democrats will have self preservation, the other average voter, and say, no, we need to turn against this. This is a talentarian, this is dangerous, this is evil.

But if that isn't the case, the deep, but here's the problem. Even if Democrats wake up, the system will know that from their internal polls, the establishment will, they're gonna make a big move. And is that a full out war with Russia, a full out war with China? Is it them allowing the jihadist sleepers' cells?

They're in America, they're at a porn across our border, they're waiting to let them activate. And I might say our government controls them, but they've let other governments bring them in in and they've given funding to those governments and now if we don't see strong signals against against Iran I don't want war with Iran about saying is strong signals telling Iran do not fund Terrographs and we don't see stronger prediation of Joe Biden that will green light the security services to go ahead and Let this new attack happen

and a massive jihadi attack in america could be the way to bring in martial law and cancel the election. Okay. Lot going on there. So I use say, one of my favorite shows, wife and I watch the magicians, you know, very plot dense, extremely plot dense to the point where if you kind of like look away for about five, six seconds, you might learn to put look back and they'll be on a different show like it's that level of plot dense, right? Right. And sometimes when you're watching a new episode, they'll do the like last time on and it won't be the strictly last time. It will be, hey, here's a piece of the plot from last season.

We're in a different universe continuity now, but if you don't know that, if you don't remember it, you won't understand what's going on on this episode. So surprise, here it is, caught up. Now we can watch this show. I feel like I missed the last one for that entire section of just like wait What season what season of the show where we are what you confused about what season of the show where we are

They don't want to do a big old What what are we talking about the levels to want this now? Yeah, of course not oh What was the last time give me the last time time on was our continuity. Where are we at last time on? Alex was trying to get everyone to start talking about how the globalists were going to kill Trump. Right. We've seen that quite a bit. And I think maybe it's just not exciting enough. And so like Biden's going to be killed too. Sure. Um, that's fun. Maybe that's not exciting enough either. Yeah. And so now we have all these machinations and plans of global wars and terrorist lepersels coming around to make it so we don't have an election. I don't know. I don't know about the last on. Yeah. There is no continuity to Alex really. If you

really break it down. No. But this is this is a kind of fun thing that probably will not come to pass. Yeah. And then we'll just forget that Alex made these predictions because he's a prophet. Right. You know, right. You just forget about all these other things that he says are going to happen that don't happen. When is the next time Trump and Biden will be in the same room together. Mm, debate night in prison. I don't know. I'll be done for that. That would be interesting. That would be interesting.

So Alex just starts rambling a bit about his values. Uh-huh. We're getting close to the dismount, and so Alex is kind of doing a blustery bit of a speech. The sky is the limit, so people need to be vigilant and understand that we wanna let the system know we're aware, we wanna promote the values of free speech and the family and of self-defense

and of local control and of free market, rugged individualism and a competitive civilization and a colorblind society that Martin Luther King Jr. talked about, we need to go back to the things that made us great that threaten the CCP and threaten the globalists of the UN because they're selling tyranny and eating bugs and being locked down in your houses and forced injections and two men can have a baby. We're selling normal human biology and success and culture. And so I just think we have to give the alternate plan to their dystopia.

We have to challenge their dystopia, but also give the alternate plan, which enough people aren't doing. But that's Trump's big sin is his optimism. America's great. Everybody's beautiful. We have such potential. And as soon as the world heard,

America was open for business. We saw trillions flood instantly in because our leaders had said America's not open for business, invested China and India and Mexico where the globalists have middleman deals to get all the money and all the power. Instead of the people getting it, it was Henry Ford, one the perfect guy. Well, what about him? He said, the other manufacturers.

What did you like? I'm sure he is. This came out in film. No, I want specifics for you. I'm like, I'm gonna trust you. Because you know, he didn't get trouble they did They said to him other automatic manufacturers. They said why are you gonna pay your employees three times what we do And he said because I won't just I don't want just rich people buying my cars

I want my employees to prime the market to buy it They'll give me all the money back buying buying the Model T, and then that'll supercharge it. So that's the two different systems. Build this illustrious, incredibly exciting, roaring civilization of laws, a fair, or let these big guys already made all the money, centralize control, shut us all down and vertically integrate, so they're in control, and then kill competition. So we have to kill the globalist program that's anti-free market, anti-capitalist, it's monopolistic, it's anti-human,

it's a bunch of degenerate, in-bred, third, fourth generation elites who didn't make all this money, who didn't create all this stuff, but then the side of business even get to take part in it while they take part in it and live like kings. So it's us or them, Tucker,

and we've got to crush the globalists. We've got to crush the new world order. We've got to challenge them or they're going to destroy the planet. I believe that. You believe it. It's just that's that is his full response. I believe it. All that shit is meaningless lip service,

mostly just muscle memory buzzwords that Alex is memorized to compile into fake ass rants. Things sure went off the rails with the stuff about Trump and Henry Ford, but what I'm most interested in is the idea that Alex thinks he's helping propose an alternative system to the one that exists that's better. Take any issue and imagine what Alex's policy prescription would be to address the problem he has and you immediately end up with a pile of corpses. Alex wants armed vigilantes to patrol the southern border

and have the right to do whatever they need. Alex wants to expel populations of people who he feels shouldn't be in America. Alex doesn't believe that Muslims can possibly integrate into American society. Alex thinks that people should be forced to carry fetuses to term against their own will. Alex believes that LGBTQ folks don't have the right to exist in public and probably not

in private. Alex believes that public health officials should be killed for unleashing a bio-weapon on the planet. Alex doesn't have an alternative system, he has a hit list. Alex doesn't have a vision of a better future, he has fantasies of an authoritarian state where all power rests in the hands of straight white Christian men and that authority is never questioned Alex is complex in terms of his ability to wax on about nothing for long stretches of time And he weaves in a lot of stupid sci-fi with his rants, but he's also pretty simple

He wants a showmanist Christian ethno state At the core that's really what it what it boils down to yeah also Henry Ford is a fucking Nazi, and the whole story Alex is telling about him is a myth. In reality Ford raised just wages for his workers because he was dealing with massive turnover problems. People kept quitting and hiring and training processes that were needed to fill those positions over and over again was too expensive for him to maintain. He raised wages to lure people into not quitting, which was successful. Also, in order to get this raise, employees had to submit to character assessments from Ford who would send people to their homes to make sure they weren't drinking or gambling.

In essence, Henry Ford enacted a social credit score with his employees, which is the very thing Alex is pretending the globalists are doing now, which is ironic. Yeah, the number of things that Henry Ford did that people who say head reformed was a genius. Not a perfect guy. If he were to do any of those things, it's the thing that they love those myths about. I heard the myth too. I heard the myth like, oh, it's a great business decision. See, I'll pay my employees enough to me. And it's never like actually labor is a, you know, there was a fight to the fucking death with

so many, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's one way of telling a story. So that it's a business decision. It's not somebody had to die for it. Yeah. No. So I don't believe, I don't believe that Alex is engaged in any productive way of proposing an alternative. Yeah. We have to promote an alternative. It's no, you don't. You want to repress people. You want to create a society that is much closer to the bad version we had in the past. Yeah. That's it. You're not interesting. Uh, yeah. So, um, we come towards the dismount here, and Alex is discussing some of his persecution, and I call tremendous bullshit on this.

Okay. Again, I still never figured out what your crime is, but you have been persecuted for something. Um, in, in an escalating way, I got to subpoenas last week. subpoenas. I got subpoenas on January 6th. Again, on a criminal investigation. You didn't do anything on January 6th.

And I got subpoenaed in Trump's criminal trial in Georgia. On what? On what? On what? The lawyer called and said, what is this? And they said, well, we don't just want him as a witness he's a subject but don't tell anyone I do a Georgia but I'm not saying it's bad they went and challenged it that's a right I mean I went and protested there so it's just pure intimidation so you got these two spinners last week but they're the old ones that he

got aren't they the yeah yeah he just caught up in his own little web he tried to be specific which is always a mistake because when he when he talks shit and he's like I got two subpoenas last week if he didn't give any specifics he'd be able to maintain the illusion. Yeah anybody you could have gone to see a peanut for anything. Anybody would buy any reason for you to get his up. Sure why not. You've lived in Alex Jones like life. Yeah until anyone that you're're lawyer that you're talking about is fucking norm paddhist is unreliable as an aerator brutal so we end the the interview with Alex rambling a bit about his favorite subject which is the alamo and how he thinks he's

carnal travest can't believe it you're our champion tucker and and and there are other people you know the, you know, Leicester, I know you don't want to be the top dog, but you are. That's why you're under attack. Most important human in the world. I know no matter what happens to me, men and women are going to continue the fight

forward into the future, but this is an alamo situation. I'm not evacuating. I'm not leaving. I'm not going. How'd they do at the alamo? Do you remember? Everybody got killed. Oh, okay.

But that example led to a big, you know, my mom's family, race colonel Travis's son, and on my dad's side too, they were heavily involved. First Texas families, when we had like Mexican land grants for our property, we still have Mexican land. We paid for 12 cents an acre, like 1825, and East Texas, you know, it's not as cool as your place, but it's pretty cool. And the last letter he wrote on that piece of wallpaper was 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 10,000 trips coming in on our 200 something. We're gonna give one hell of a fight

and kill a bunch of them before they can get up north for the main battle. And they killed thousands, well, three thousand would have estimated, we go from memory of Mexican trips. And so that's just, that'd be an honor to have like 10,000 trips coming to me and I'm in the Alamo. I don't have a death wish, but man, it gets me out of the kite.

And so I'm not doing a Colonel Travis did. All the reason they got beat is they ran out of ammo basically that powder but no more no more ball and they were fight with swords again. So those are tough men and I don't even measure up to them. But I want to try to measure up. And so it's very exciting. It's it's instinctive and spiritual to be defending humanity and prosperity or for the time being justice. Yeah, right. Globalist child trafficking monsters, the open border, all this evil. I mean, so my, my cells tell me to do this,

my guts, my sin you say, you're ordered to do this. And I don't feel good unless I do it. And so the bigger the attacks get us the old World War II saying when the planes were over the target, they didn't really have radar,

but they knew the bases and the factories had flat. So they're shooting at them with artillery and aircraft artillery. So you flew into that. And so me, the best place I want to be is in the factories had flat. So they're shooting at them with artillery and aircraft artillery, so you flew into that. And so me, the best place I want to be is in the flat. But I also hate the flat because we can blow up and we're not the fight anymore. So there's that paradox. But 90% of me wants to be in the flat. Timber said, maybe you should steer a little around it, because you don't want to get knocked out. And until just a few years ago, I felt really bad because

it didn't seem to paradigm and been shattered. And people didn't actually read the global stock. And now there's been a paradigm shattering and I'm almost obsolete, Tucker. And as soon as that happens, as soon as I see another couple hundred more prominent people that actually know what's going on,

we've already reached a chain reaction point. I'm gonna hang it up and disappear like Obi-Wan Kenobi. Alex Jones, thank you. Thank you. What a great conversation brother. Really? I'm sure courage talker. Thank you. I love your crew. A great energy. Thank you. Maricana, baby. Maricana, baby. And then he's out and then it's over. Two of them together are disgusting on a like existential level. Yeah. Like there's something truly gross. level. Yeah. Like there's something truly gross.

Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting in a non-interesting way. I think the dynamic brings out blandness in Alex. Yeah. I mean, there's almost a gothic horror to it of like this thing that should be, they both should be not what they are. Right.

They're like uncanny human like people. You know, they're like the us, they're like us, you know, they're like the sleep versions of us. Right. And then they learned speech. And they can kind of sound of us. Uh-huh. Right, and then they learned speech. Sure. And they can kind of sound like us, but whenever they talk, shit is fucking terrifying.

It is, yeah, but it's presented in a way that is not terrifying and kind of banal and boring and completely disorienting. These are adults laughing about prank calling Brian Stelter drunk the night before. This is ridiculous. I... They expect to be taken seriously

on all of these like completely fucked up societal ideas that they have. Totally. Meanwhile, they have the maturity of me at 19. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The spend, oh, it's all about borders. And to spend all of our lives in,

nobody should be able to come in and take my shirt. Don't run, run, run, run. Also, let's just remember that the greatest heroes break into somebody else's home and then heroically die fighting to the death to stay there. Yeah, and are running from a life that they ruined as a drunken conman loser. Yeah, and are running from a life that they ruined. Yes, yes, every aspect of this of our lives is a weird reenactment of the ironic version of the Alamo. and don't don't forget it. Oh, God. Yeah, I think that this interview not super enlightening right in anyway

I think I mean if I had to pull like moments that were like, oh wow yeah There's the you can't fly a BLM flag unless you live in East Accentions now segregation forever that one's bananas. That's, yeah. That is bananas. Is something that I'm kind of shocked. You really want segregation. I'm shocked that they articulated that. Like I always thought, I always got segregation

like as like a economic thing. Like oh, I want to steal money from people. I didn't know you actually wanted it. That sucks. Gross. It does suck. Gross. The part about the predictions I expected that know you actually wanted it. That sucks. Gross. It does suck. Gross. The part about the predictions I expected

that was going to come up. Yeah, I thought it would be a little better done. That victory lap was gonna happen. Yeah, but I really thought that like, like there would be more work done to actually make the argument as opposed to just like show a 40 seconds sizzle reel and then be like oh my god you're a prophet I thought that was a little lazy you mean somebody on

Tucker staff would have been right to put together a sizzle real as opposed to using one of Alex's own or providing any kind of context to what these things that are being said are sure there be some more convincing I mean yes yeah yeah the attempt to make it more convincing would undercut the entire argument, which is why they didn't do that, right? But I still think it's a little bit lazy. No, I get what you said. And then the Brian Stelter the breakdown of it is I thought that was out of place. They got too weird. I got too weird. It seems like to me there's a misuse of time

It seems like to me there's a misuse of time, but also I'd be, I'm really interested in the raw footage. I would be interested in that because Alex, I believe, said that it gets a two hour interview, there's only an hour and a half. There's very clearly cuts in it. And so I'd be curious what those were because, you know, we certainly have the legacy of his gay interview where like a week later there was a bunch of shit that came out that was pretty fucked up. I'd be curious about that.

I would be curious if Stelter recorded that call. Oh, man. We should get that. Stelter, buddy. Stelter. Our old friend. Come on, you have to, if Alex calls you drunk on like, what, Thanksgiving or something, then you record the call right

But that's that's why you bum rush it with the Tucker's producer calling and then hey, hello, it's Alex I don't know I I find I find myself underwhelmed a little bit. Yeah at the same time like Exasperated yeah, I think that if if there wasn't so much territory that we've covered length before, I would find this to be at least a little bit more fruitful. Like there would be interesting things as opposed to just like, this is just a wrote repetition of Thomas Shit that he says all the time. Yeah.

And that maybe is a function of our unfortunate familiarity that this becomes incredibly boring. I mean, I think there's definitely that. But I mean, I think it's not our fault, you know, and I think there's something to be said about the games over. You know, the fourth quarter has been played, right? Like, we're not the ones who are letting him back in the game. If that makes sense, yeah, you know, so like I'm, I'm all about a, yeah, but

I think Tucker could have probably had a much more interesting interview with Alex a year ago or something. But now now that it's just Or or a much better interview a year from now. We're in this space right now that it's so like everybody in the world is feeling a cocoon year of like something in the next 20 in the next blah is going to make the next blah blah blah so much different. Nobody has any idea. And it does feel like not because it's an election, but just because of the dynamics that's around an election, it does feel like that is a ticking clock.

Yeah, but I mean, it doesn't even, but it doesn't feel like the election will be the thing. No, you know, everything around it. There's so many. Yeah, everything around. I would give anything for just an election. That would be a delight. Can you imagine what about how do you feel about Bob Dull and fucking Bill Clinton, Dan. Who do you think's gonna win that one?

Bob Dull What did people live? What did they live like before? You could just go out on TV and scream that the fucking government's gonna kill your grandma tomorrow tomorrow. Right or or the fake doing great, great replacement shit. What is that like? What was it like before this? Everything is just fuck amazing. Well, all right. All right Congratulations, I will say more More prestigious than interviewing the guy who claims he blew Obama in a lima true that true

Step up from that a sad truth maybe a step down from interviewing Extremist heads of state around the world could be but you did what you needed to do and I congratulations Yeah, anyway, we'll be back Jordan indeed, but until then we have a website and you do it's knowledge right dot com Yeah, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge of this graphite. Yep. We'll be back But until then I'm neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark These guys suck. I don't know. I got nothing. I'm exhausted these guys suck. I don't know, I got nothing, I'm exhausted. Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy and Chan's a sure on the earth thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm the first time I've caught a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.