Knowledge Fight - #878: March 29, 2004

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to catch their breath from modern day nonsense.  They find Alex mourning the death of the fourth amendment, and that's pretty much the whole show.  Also, Jordan's favorite caller makes a cameo appearance.

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But sometimes they're a little bit basic and I guess today's is a little basic, and that is, I guess I'm just, Breitzpot is I'm alive, honestly. Yeah, yeah. That's my Breitzpot. It's shit. Times are shit. Yeah.

And you know, we postponed our last or canceled our Friday episode of last week because I got a horrendous bout of fish poisoning. That has been described by those who have heard it vis-a-vis my dad as it sounds like the worst I've ever heard of. Yep. It was real bad. Yeah. To the point where I thought I was going to die for sure. Culp rates have been identified by some people on social media. Sure. They are things like the all the cheese I'd vent calendar.

That'll happen. The hairibo. These are these are suspects and I would like to clear all of these of suspicion. Sure. The hairibo absolutely was not the contributing factor. Yeah. The cheese calendar. If I'm being totally honest, I've fallen off on a little bit. Sure. So that was actually I'm behind all that's out of the running. I don't believe it is. I believe it was some bad hot dogs.

Well, that's not hard to imagine. Yeah. Of all the things to imagine. I got some Oscar Myers from the grocery store. And when I was eating them, I did think these aren't good. And I didn't think much of it. And I did throw away one. So I didn't even finish all of it. But I did make note of like, this is something's wrong here. And turns out something was wrong. Something was real wrong.

That is an interesting thing because you were one thrown away hot dog from death. That hot dog was, that had your name written on it like a bulletin. That might have been mypolognium poisoning. Whole metal jacket right there. It's been done for. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, this has been like a real shit month as a whole in terms of some issues with shifting medications that is still ongoing in terms of like depression and

all that stuff that still remains unresolved and is a turbulent up and down throughout. I had another medical issue that maybe we'll talk about at some point on air, but that was plaguing me and has been a bit, no, it's to feel bad or anything. It's fine. But, you know, and just everything has been a pile of shit towards the end of this year. I don't, I don't foresee 2024 being any better. No, it's going to be great. It's going to be great. And then in the midst of all of this, like I don't I don't foresee 2024 being any better. No, it's gonna be great. I'm gonna be great. And then in the midst of all of this, like we have Alex getting back on Twitter and all the shitheads were joicing and Alex posting end-game on Twitter. Yep. It's like, oh God,

it's just I can't it's it's rough, but I'm alive and we're here. So bright spot. Yeah, yeah. No, I think it's been really great to be helpless and watch you suffer. That's fantastic. I mean, you didn't have to watch. I didn't, I didn't livestream my throwing up at four in the morning. No, I didn't have to watch. I didn't have to watch, but I did spend a lot of time worrying.

Well, I'm sorry that you did, but I appreciate it. No, no, this is about me, just in case you were wondering. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're alive. But it's about me. Right.

Yeah, I understand. No, of course. Let's your bright spot. I love you. My bright spot actually is this new show, Carol and the End of the World. On Netflix, it's another animated show. It's one of the more pensive and like emotionally affecting things

that I've watched in a long time. Okay. It's very, it's not funny or, I mean, I don't know. It is funny, but it's hard to describe beyond like, occasionally I was genuinely weeping salt tears for like existential purposes. You know, like it is that kind of a show. Is it a sequel or a television version

of seeking a friend for the end of the world? No, no, no, no, no. That's Steve Carell movie. No, it is not that. It is. That make you cry. No, that didn't bother me at all. No, it is, it's a melancholy in tone.

Sure. I mean, I see a bit of the world. It's even at the end of the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, there's a morose feel. Right. What, I mean, what's fascinating about it is that idea of the twin paths of the end of the world, you know, like people going out and being like, well, we're all going to die.

So I'm going to be fulfilled. I'm going to live we're all gonna die, so I'm gonna be fulfilled. I'm gonna live my life to the fullest. I'm gonna go flying. And then there's tons of people who are like, this makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. And what makes me feel comfortable is going to fucking work. Well, but there's a third path, which is the purge. Sure, sure, sure.

Well, I have nobody saying the purge isn't available. Yeah, yeah. And then it give a point in time. I assume that's in the show. Ah, I think there is some purge yeah, okay But yeah, it is it is a really interesting meditation on like life condensed So yeah, I would recommend it cool. Yeah, you're talking about online things TV shows and stuff sure.. I saw a trailer for the new Beverly Hills cop movie. I'm sorry, what? Right, I didn't realize this was happening.

Is it four or five now? Is that five? I think we're on five. I'm not sure. But I was like, man, who do they get to play Axel? Because I thought like you're gonna hand down the roll to somebody. There's no way any Murphy's still gonna play still gonna play the man's in his 60s.

I did I didn't think that I thought like wow that would be a very interesting storyline that they're gonna need to tell of like this old cop or whatever going around putting bananas and tailpipes and shit. When they revealed it was any Murphy. Yeah I guess. I mean he still looks great sure no arguments there no arguments there no Still starring a movie absolutely don't yeah, yeah, don't get it twisted But it was still just such a surprise and that's how I knew that the fever was bad. Yeah That moved by like oh my god. It's anymore

And then when judge Ryan holds in it. I'm sorry, it's any more. And then when Judge Reinhold's in it. I'm sorry, what? He's still alive. I believe so. Oh, good for you. Based on the trailer, I'm led to believe you still alive. 40 to 60% coffee. Kevin Bacon.

Kevin Bacon is still going. He still works a lot. Anyway, I will not see this. No care. Yep, nope. But I was shocked. Yeah, yeah. I imagine we'll all probably feel the same whenever Martin Lawrence shows up in bad boy six. Well, you have to. Yeah.

Will Smith. Yeah. Yeah. I have to. Well, I don't know if we'll, I don't know if bad boy six is going to be able to get Will Smith at that point. You, he'll come back probably. He's, uh, he's, he's that kind of guy. Yeah, he might, he might not do five, but he'll do six. Yeah, like a Vin Diesel. For sure. Not doing fast and furious to. That place Tokyo drift. Vin Diesel was in that one. He was in the end credits. Oh, that's right. That's right. With the polls up. Right. When he was Nick Furying as Marvel, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But he didn't want to do two because he didn't do sequels. Oh How that is come around

Boy so anyway, yes, we have an episode to do today right and I I honestly between the exasperation and the the difficulties and the fact that we had you you know, our last couple episodes were eight hours of present day monstrosity. It does feel like we're losing, yes. I decided we're going back to the past. Good call. So today we're going to be talking about March 29th, 2004. And I do think that there is such better content in the past.

And I have a theory about it and we'll work through this as we go along. But first, let's say hello to some new ones. That's great idea. So first, Kris B. Biscuit, aka, a hairless Alex Jones gives off big loser little titty baby energy. Thank you so much, you're an outpulles you want. I'm a policy. Thank you very much. Next, I listen to a lot of knowledge fight while traveling in Spain. And now Alex's panic, the helping will always remind me of Ibiza. Thank you so much You're an outpost you want I'm a policy won't thank you very much I thought Ibiza was the island in Greece

Isn't Ibiza not the party island? Wait, do you mean Ibiza do you think Ibiza and Ibiza are different places? I think they I thought they were no. I thought it was a fancy pronunciation of a bea Wait, wait, what now I'm so confused. Yeah me too. All right next Alex's shitty great reset book Indirectly got me to finally go back to therapy. Thank you so much you're an out policy wonk Thank you very much best outcome Better than that next reverend zander lovecraft. Thank you so much, you're an AOPOLISY WANK.

I'm a policy WANK. Thank you very much. And, Chodolfoster. Thank you so much, you're an AOPOLISY WANK. I'm a policy WANK. Thank you very much. And, we got a technicrat in the mixed Jordan. So, thank you so much to Happy Birthday, Angela,

from Popcorn Butter, but my bright spot today is you as an individual, a mother, a partner, and dad-ass. Her birthday is in early November. Oops. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. For stars, the home team of the tele-Earth Brilliant. Someone, someone satamite and sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark.

Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. I looked it up Yes, Ibiza is a pronunciation that British people usually use for Ibiza, right? Which is an island in the Mediterranean Which is not? You know what I really thought Ibiza was in a different place

That's that's what's going on there. All right, all right. For some reason, I thought it was, you know, maybe it's just because I knew it as a Mediterranean island. Sure, sure. I assume everything Mediterranean is around. Is around Greece?

Yeah. It's greasy. No, it is way over there by Spain. Way over on the west side, near Spain. Yeah. Yeah, not too far from like Mallorca and stuff. It's near parma or palma palma yeah um to yeah that that's my bad all this time all this time I've

been aware of it as a house music capital of the world right I thought it was over there maybe by eos yeah noxos now Now, let's see, what are we talking about? I think the first time I encountered Ibiza was on LCD sound systems losing my edge. That was the first time that somebody had pronounced it like that and I got so confused because I kept seeing it with the Z and he pronounced it Ibiza.

Yeah. See, I associated, I'm not sure. Isn't that how to do with the, wait, I thought I had to do with like Catalan, and never mind, what are we doing? What's happening? I was never, I knew the name, or I knew of Abisa because of my buddy, Dr. Gums,

and I used to smoke a lot of weed. And he liked this, Aweeta. You liked this, weed to you like this the CDs cafe Del Mar right Collections of sort of moody house music and shit, and it was just like oh Man we get so high and think about being in a visa One day we're new live show at cafe Del Mar that's what we're gonna be fun we I bet we could pull up a fuck yeah no I don't think we can do if somebody if oh man I bet we could pull it off I doubt it I agree so Jordan today we get this episode to go over but first here is now the context drop from today's show

that's it I'm reading the Declaration of Independence next hour. That's it. Wait, for the first time. No, just on air, he's going to commit a thot crime. How how how long does he make it through? He doesn't do it at all. Oh, come on. Wait, no, actually, he reads a couple of the like amendments to the Declaration of Independence. Yeah, he reads like the Bill of Rights. You know, the Bill of Rights to the Declaration of Independence. Yeah. Yeah, but I do like it as a pronouncement. That's it. That's it.

I've had enough. I've had enough. Gotta read the Declaration. I like that is like a comforting thing. You know what guys, I just gotta go and I gotta read the Declaration for a while and then I'll be back and I'll be ready to go I do some self-care. Yep reading the Declaration of Independence out loud So we start off and Alex has a big news story that will go with

Entireity of the show. I want to cover this and I want to take your calls on this subject And I want you to call in on this issue You're welcome to talk about other stuff once you talk about this but i i i rarely say hey we're gonna talk about this but i really think we should and again it's posted right now on in four wars dot com we just have the news article itself out of news six of the big tv station there in new wardlands on prison plan dot com but info wars dot com we have some of my article itself out of news six of the big TV station there in New Orleans on

prisonplanted.com but at info wars.com we have some of my commentary added to the top of the story and some links to some key documents after it so I think you need to go get that story and email it out to everybody you know local talk show host local constabulary because it's a big big deal or opens door to searches without warrants that's the headline

the sent in judge calls ruling or dissenting judges all ruling the road to hell i don't know the so Soviet Union was a wonderland. I mean, why is he saying that? Maybe he's anti-government. Oh, damn. So I understand where Alex is coming from,

and maybe on a general philosophical level, I can agree with him, but he's repeatedly endorsed, stop and frisk policing in places like New York, so maybe he can just calm down a little bit with this sanctity bullshit. Oh, he's on one, did I ever. So the situation here is about a case out of Louisiana that was recently decided in the fifth circuit of appeals.

I'll give you the basic details, because it's a little bit messy. There was this guy named Kelly Gould who was a known violent felon. A guy who knew him called the police and warned them that Gould was planning on killing two local judges. And naturally, the police acted on that tip and decided, no, let's go have a little chat with this guy. Sure. They arrived at the trailer where Ghouls lived,

and another resident of the trailer gave them permission to enter and look for Ghouls, who was said to be asleep in his bedroom. Right. The officers looked in the bedroom, they didn't see him, and part of making sure he wasn't setting up an ambush was to look around like under the bed, check the closets which are open in the bedroom.

When they did so, they found a bunch of guns, which Gould was not allowed to be in possession of, he is a violent fellow. On a kind of violent felonies. Yeah, yeah. So Gould had managed to get out of the trailer, but please found him hiding in the woods nearby pretty quick. Yeah. At which point he was arrested and consented to a search of his living space.

Sure. Now here's what's at issue with this case. Did the officers have the right to search those closets, which is to say, was that an appropriate part of doing a protective sweep of the premises? Gould's lawyers argued that they did not, and they sought to suppress the discovery of the guns as being any evidence that could be used against Gould. And the district court agreed, but on appeal, the fifth circuit court overturned that decision, finding that this kind of protective sweep is appropriate in the context that the officers were in were failing to do so could have put them in serious danger.

The issue wasn't uncertainty about protective sweeps. Sweeps left hanging after a previous case, Maryland vs. Buie. That case established that protective sweeps were fine for police to do in the context of an arrest, but it didn't specify that they had to only be incident to an arrest. That was a potential understanding of the ruling, which was the basis for Gould's lawyers challenge. Ultimately, the fifth circuit decided that protective sweeps did not have to only be done after or in the context of an arrest, but could be done

under other very limited circumstances. Sure. This is not a draconian step towards the police state, but Alex is presenting it that way because it involves guns. And that'll sort of become clear as we go on. I was going to say, yeah, I think I feel like again, the real problem here is this is involving a lot of guns. That's the major issue. It will be teased out eventually that there are a lot of feelings about guns that are sort of part of this. Sure. No, I respect the need for whatever the law to get, you know, that's their job. They'll get into it.

They'll get hold of my, but for me, I feel like the bigger problem here is that guy shouldn't have had all those guns. I think, I think, you know, assuming that the information was correct, he probably shouldn't have threatened to kill judges. That's a bad idea too. Yeah, it's usually someone's gonna hear you and tell the police about it. Right, right. And then also, yeah, if you're, if you're a fel and you're running a real risk, I mean,

I understand. I understand it's important for the protective sweep details. Happy for people to work that out. We gotta work on the guns first though. I feel like the guns are important. So this, also there's one, there were two judges who descended, but there was one that wrote a dissenting opinion.

And so this is being attributed to multiple judges said that this was the road to hell. Now, the article as it exists says, it doesn't say that, but it does say that, quote, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Okay. Was something that one of the judges said. Right. Now, this article has actually been edited since the time that Alex covered it.

Okay. So Alex is actually covering it correctly that the article said that two judges said that this was, quote, the road to hell. Right, but they did. They didn't really. Right. It was out of context. Sure. So the article was updated, but Alex is not wrong. Right. He's just wrong. Technically speaking, if you do write the road to hell is paid with good intentions, you could be said, as to have said, this is the road to hell. No, and there's another thing that we'll get to later that they do say in the Decentic opinion that you can construe in a certain way very loosely to say

that this is the road to hell. Sure. So what they did is they were a little loose with their quotations. Yeah. And then added it because of their comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not right. I get it. So one of the things that I'm talking about here with the reason that the past is so much better on Alex's show is this is a real thing. Yes. You know, like the stuff that Alex talks about now is just like, who knows what you're fucking talking about.

Yeah. It's so disconnected from reality. Yeah. It's like, most of it's from a meme he saw somewhere, or a vision he had, and all this nonsense. This is a real world issue. This is a person who got arrested for these guns, and there is an open question as to whether the police's sweep

was protected against the Fourth Amendment or not. Sure, that's interesting. Exactly. There is a potential for real conversation about something here. As opposed to like, it's a fucking dead end in the present. No, no, no, no, no, vaccines are made of, Jesus is hatred for you because you worship the devil. Of course that makes perfect sense.

And they're giving it to you because you're white and they wanna kill you. Exactly, yes, obviously. Yeah. want to kill you. Yes, obviously I Yeah, let's get into it with what is the fourth amendment say about that? You can't search my blood So it's interesting question. So Alex has his own commentary that he has added to this article Good, yeah, and I put the comment in here the fit circuit ruling is criminal similar to supreme court rulings of the past declaring black people slaves it is a total

violation of the bill of rights and is no and void the u.s. congress and legislature of Louisiana should call an emergency session to investigate possible criminal charges of sedition against those ruling to eradicate the Fourth Amendment. We'll come back, get into the article, and take your call, stay with us. That's tough talk. Yeah. Obviously stupid. Yeah. The Fifth Circuit Court decision has painstaking discussion about the Fourth Amendment concerns in it, which is part of why it was never overturned by the Supreme Court. Right. It's very much in line with the Constitution. Alex is just a zalid

on gun issues, particularly when he can masquerade them as illegal search-type privacy issues. Also, I'm not sure if Alex actually doesn't know this, but the Supreme Court didn't just rule one day that black people were to be enslaved. Slavery in the US predates the Constitution. There were court decisions that upheld slavery along the way like the Dred Scott case, but I worry about Alex's grasp on history a little bit when he says stuff like that. Whether he knows what he's talking about or not, the important thing to keep in mind is that Alex is just trying to create the image that one day the court came along and took black people's freedom away.

And that's exactly what's happening now because this fifth circuit court's decision about protective sweeps. It's dumb, but it's emotionally resonant and gives undue weight to the narrative that he's selling today. Yeah, I mean you don't want to find out that all of your Razers of my bootstraps talk it doesn't make any sense whenever the entirety of your country is based upon slave labor You know from its birth to now before birth. Yeah, exactly Yeah, colonial time makes you feel like you're not the person who raised yourself up by your bootstrap so much maybe you didn't build that business Maybe you didn't build shit, so uh man this this made me feel worried

Possession is nine pence of the law of the law. Poltergeist. The globalists are not following any law. The Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Magna Carta, the Ten Commandments. They're not following any of America's laws. We were founded. I'm sorry. What? No, they're simply following the law of pirates as they pull alongside each other in their kangaroo, international courts, ailing their fellow pirates. I Mean matey's

In your hoe It's how the pirates would hail each other. How many slaves have you fed on? How many loose fish have you brought upon your debts and we my friends are the fish a hoi Clouchoi. Wait, what? I do not understand this matter for whatsoever. So the globalist are pirates and we're the fish. Right. I don't understand your conclusions,

it's just a clear one. But pirates don't, we're pirates, just fish. Peep, peep. Yeah, they're just fish, man. Okay, fine. It's like they stole the fish. Oh, a back at Tartouga. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're just fishermen. Okay, fine. It's about to be stole, the fish. Oh, a back at Tartouga.

Mm. Yeah, I gotcha. So does Alex actually think the possession is that the law? Does he think that we're based on the Magna Carta? Well, there are some elements that are similar. Well, English common law, sure. Yeah, I mean, there are things that you can trace.

Right, ideas and things. Yeah, but it was, was honor thy father and mother though. Is that one that America was based on? The Ten Commandments. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. It's deep and jurisprudence. Oh, yeah. I care, yeah, I'm pretty glad we don't do

the blasphemy laws anymore. That's nice. Isn't possession Nine-tenth of the law is that in the Magna Carta? I thought it was a bumper I don't know Honestly, nonsense that idiots tell you when they want to steal things from you This is my problem. I don't know who said that. I don't know why they said it other than people say it whenever they're stealing shit Yeah, they just like you take something from you and then like that's mine Stealing shit. Yeah, they just like take something from you and they're like that's mine

What's a tenth of a lot? I get that just say colonialism is fine because I have a gun and you don't well That's why you gotta be worried about people taking your guns see now I would ask a second question What's that if possession is 9 tenths of the law sure and globalists aren't following any law, right. What is possession matter? Hmm. Oh, boy. What's it? It's a riddle. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're pirates, so what are the fish matter? Hmm. And we're the fish. They're nutritious. Okay. Are they gonna eat us? I think so. Okay. So before they do do they just want to make us all criminals or to criminalize all of us. Wait all the pirates want to make us criminals. Right. These little, well you gotta step out of your metaphor. Sorry, sorry. I was in the out of his trap. I was trapped. A laugh at us. It's a big fat joke and bureaucrats from the lowliest to the greatest are all setting up their own empires

they've been given free reign to expand the police state and the despotism of taxation and regulation they are making us all criminals and by doing that they then strip us of our, our, our, available rights, our citizenship, our sovereignty and declare us bounty that they can literally feed upon. That's what's happening right now. The like fish. That's what's happening.

So the rights can be taken away. They are not inalienable, small squabble, but Alex is a dick. So I thought I'd throw it in there. Yeah. More to the point though, what crimes is Alex talking about the globalist charging us with where we would lose our citizenship? That's some serious shit. Yeah.

If you're a naturalized citizen, meaning you weren't born here, there are a number of ways you can be denaturalized and be stripped of your citizenship. Like, if you became a citizen by committing immigration fraud, or if it's found out that you're like funding terrorist groups. Right, right, right. However, if you're a citizen by birth, you can only lose that citizenship against your will by committing a very small selection of crimes. Yeah.

You could attempt to overthrow the government in an act of treason. Sure. Alex's buddies got charged with something pretty similar to that. Yeah, you actually, you actually can't lose your citizenship from that? Well, well, that was a conspiracy to commit seditious acts. It's not necessarily treason, so maybe it's a little bit of... Sure. So maybe you have to do something

a bit order of magnitude greater than January 6th. Right. Right. Another option is to join the military of a country that's hostile to the United States. Yeah. In many ways, that's less a crime and more of a choice on your part. So that's not really losing your citizenship against your will.

It's honestly pretty much just treason. Yeah, I mean, I feel like you don't really need to worry about losing your citizenship because you're probably gonna die. But if you live, I can't imagine you'd be like, ah, I'll just go back home. Right. Doesn't seem like you're gonna have a good time.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm pretty sure that a circuit court just made a decision that allows protective sweeps and very narrow circumstances, but if you're Alex, it's like this is the end of the Republic shit, man, everything has to be that level because he is dramatic. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I really have never thought about what you could do to lose your citizenship beyond. It's very little. I mean, it is literally like, I get it. If you try to end the country, you can't be a citizen of the country. That makes sense, right? Mm-hmm.

It's that simple. Yeah, but there's a bunch of things you can do voluntarily. Sure, sure. You know, but in terms of like crimes you commit, that's pretty much just reason. Yeah, I can expat. You don't have to, why would you need, you don't need to lose your citizenship? Yeah, you can keep it and you can just leave. Yeah, but you don't have to try and kill everybody first. There are other things too though, like if you go to another country and try and run for office there,

uh-huh, then you probably will lose your citizenship. Really? Yeah. That's a good message. That's a choice. So you can't be a citizen of the United States and president of Spain. No. Okay. No, I think that would be a problem. So Alex, he's going on about this search and seizure type article in this narrative. And turns out we figure out where this all came from. And Saturday I went online and there on the Grudge Report, it's now on info wars.com and prisonpline.com. I saw this headline. Court opens the door who searches without warrants. This is from the New Orleans news channel six.

New Orleans quote, it's a round breaking court decision that legal experts say will affect everyone. Police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief search of your home or business. Here to you. So Alex likes to pretend that he's out there doing all this deep research and he knows the white papers and court decisions and all this stuff But you saw a headline in the drug report nice riffing about it. Yeah, like honestly

There's a part of me. It's like this show should just be it should market itself like do you like the drug report But feel like you want more yelling right? It's just like an after show for the drug report. Yeah That's yeah talking drudge. Yeah, that's, yeah, talking Dredge. You know, if he had started with Chris Hardwick, we would be in a completely different world right now. And the walking dead would still be going on, I assume. I don't feel like Chris Hardwick has the yelling potential. Sure, but that's why he got Alex.

It's Alex and Chris doing a talking Dredge show. I don't, I feel like it would, I don't know. I don't think that, you don't think the nerdist is gonna pick that one up in 2004. I don't see it. Nah. No, I just don't see the market. I'm gonna have to pass.

Fair enough, fair enough. But still, like there's such a grandiosity to Alex's show and like I have visions visions, maybe he's not going that hard and that in 2004 and stuff, but he's still pretty full of himself. And at the end of the day, this entire show is just him rambling about a headline he saw in the drug report that he looked into no deeper

than the headline. No, he might as well be doing, he might as well be one of those Twitch people doing a live stream with him just like looking and scrolling through drugs. Definitely. And just reading shit to people. But it's so much more self-important.

Yeah. Yeah. Some of those Twitch people pretty fucking self-important. I was gonna say that's how you're out of your mind. Those people are nuts. Yeah, but still there's something, there's something more about us. Yeah, you're not wrong.

It's a different, different, it's a different cat. Type, yeah, type of cat. So Alex lies about it. Yeah, you're not wrong. It's a different, different type of cat. Yeah, type of cat. So Alex lies about this. And I would, I say lie because I assume ill will. But the reality is he probably just doesn't know anything about this. Him a ruling of the police search to house about a warrant and the federal court says,

yeah, those are no longer needed. And it doesn't just affect the Louisiana and affects the entire country. The court absolutely didn't say anything close to this. And the only explanation possible here is that Alex didn't read a single thing about this ruling or he's just lying to it willingly to the audience. Alex is also either wrong or lying about this ruling applying broadly across the United States. It absolutely does not. It's only really relevant in Louisiana. It's a ruling that could be binding upon lower courts within the Fifth Circuit,

which would then include Texas and Mississippi, but it has no control outside of that region. Unless the matter is taken up by the Supreme Court, it's not the law of the land. It exists as a case that could be persuasive to other courts, but that alone doesn't make it the law. Right. as a case that could be persuasive to other courts, but that alone doesn't make it the law. In less than 20 seconds, Alex just told the audience two things that were either complete lies or things that he got entirely wrong. He's a very bad source of information. I can't even imagine relying on this guy for truth.

Yeah. Hmm. You know, that's interesting to me now, mainly because like the more I think about Alex and the legal system, the more I want Kafka to come back to life and like really try and restart all of this shit, but with Alex, this is main character. I want to see what Kafka's take on Alex trying to navigate life would be. There's this Jones cast. It would be, it would be absolutely, I would be interesting. It would be way more interesting than this.

Whatever real life has done with Alex. I mean, there is a surreality to the path that he's gone on from, you know, these early days, where there's a groundedness to what he's saying to the present where it's like, a fucking prophet that, you know, is an essential part of a world really he's inserted himself as a major figure in the history of Christianity Yes, that is true. It's that is true. Yeah, I believe he's overtaken Joan of Arc in his mind by far by a wide but well she is He's coming up on Paul. He's trying. Yeah, he's nip in it. Paul's heels. It Paul created the fucking church He's he's headed. Yeah, he's nippin' it Paul's heels. It Paul created the fucking church. He's headed to Tarsis next. And he's gonna make a journey. Yeah.

This is, I mean, it's, it's pretty absurd. The lunatic direction that this has all gone. Yeah. When you really take a step back from it and like, you know, it's easy to get caught up. And you should be caught up, I believe, in the, the reality of the damage and the, and the, the harm that the present day stuff does to people, especially people in vulnerable communities, but take a step back from it and look at the absurd trajectory.

And it's something that merits study if we survive. You're not wrong. So Alex talks a little bit more about this this story here and lies more. All right, we'll get to your calls here in just a few minutes. For those that just joined us, the fifth circuit quarter of appeals, the second highest tier in the land, headline court opens door to searches without warrants, dissenting judges, called ruling the road to hell. So I want everybody to think about that long and hard. And they say, hey, we don't need warrants anymore to search your house or business. Just we're not going to have those anymore.

You understand that the courts in the past have ruled that black people weren't slaves that Native Americans couldn't have their land. Now in retrospect we know that was wrong. In hindsight he knew that too. Back then it was really important. They could do whatever they want. It takes people saying no I don't care how many black scheme ass you were how many machine guns you got and the uh... the uh... captain the police in new orlands says that we're gonna use this immediately

they said the new power will go into effect immediately that's a quote i'll extend slipped up there accidentally saying that was wrong for the courts to say that black people weren't slaves uh... without it with anyone else i would say it's an innocent mispeaking, both Alex tragic for Freudian slip. But more to the point, Alex is continuing just a straight-up lie to the audience. They didn't say that they don't need to have war and say more ridiculous. Further, Alex is quoting New Orleans, police spokesperson Marlon DeFillo saying that the power would go into effect immediately, but Alex selectively

doesn't include the other quote, which is quote, there are checks and balances to make sure the criminal justice system works in effective manner. Sure. There's another thing he said, which kind of cuts the other direction. Now, I should tell you, the Captain to Philo would later resign amid severe controversy involving the case of Henry Glover. Glover was a man who was shot by a rookie police officer a little while after Hurricane Katrina. Another officer would then set his body on fire inside of a rookie police officer a little while after Hurricane Katrina.

Another officer would then set his body on fire inside of a car and attempt to cover up the killing. Sure. While not necessarily actively involved in any of the cover-up, Defillo was facing disciplinary charges for failing to uphold his duty to investigate the killing at the time of his resignation. Right. So anyway, fuck that dude. But also, Alex is taking a amount of context in this cover.

Sure. The issue here is that there is an opportunity for an actual discussion about privacy rights here, and this case could serve as an interesting jump-off point. The cops had reason to be there, and were invited into this house to search for this guy. He was a known violent felon and made threats to murder judges, so the police had every reason to be concerned for their safety. They were told that he was in that bedroom, but didn't see him, which gives a completely good faith reason to check to make sure you're not about to be ambushed.

Should evidence they see in that sweep be able to be introduced into court for something he was subsequently arrested for? That's a question right, thinking people can have different perspectives on. You really can, I think so. But Alex is depriving the audience of even being able to make up their mind. There's no conversation to be had when the baseline presentation of the story is that the fourth amendment is gone.

If that is the headline and the story, there's no conversation. Alex is just feeding them a completely fabricated version of the story that plays into all the same bland police state beats that all of his narratives do. He's going to calls not because he wants actual discussion of this case, but because he wants people to riff with him about the unchecked tyranny and all the violent fantasies you can have about fighting it off.

That's really more what his show is than anything else. Like it's a place for people to get riled up about misrepresented drudge headlines, all the while pretending to be about news and information. And it's tragic. Like this is the difference that I'm talking about, about the past and the present. Yeah. There is an opportunity with the subjects

and the stories he's covering sometimes for an actual conversation to be had about things that are productive. Mm-hmm. Like, we saw this on a recent 2004 episode. Like, it happens. There are these stories that are like, this is an interesting point where you could make headway and you could get me to sort of agree with you, Alex.

But you're fucking it up because you're covering the story in a dishonest way that lean so heavily towards your extreme right wing politics. Yeah. Yeah, it is strange, you know, the living in two different decades, especially whenever we're talking about such different time periods and you look at the present because it is the present and because you and I are older, obviously, you know, we're more aware of shit. We've been living long enough to, you know, have experienced more shit. Oh, that's

stuff. So like the idea of looking back fondly is always something to be resisted strongly but man 2004 everybody talking the media is way less obsessed with pedophiles True being the cause of everybody murdering everybody all the time and the I mean man It was different. It was so much more boring for people. And it was better when it was boring. It was.

Talk radio should be boring. Yeah, except for a couple of weirdos, you don't take that seriously. There should be fart noises and boring politics talk. Not like, hey, somebody's finding out where you live and then you're gonna die because they're a pedophile vaccinator. Like, I don't understand you.

Well, that, yeah. If it exists, should be on it three in the morning, and it should be some kind of a weird coast to coast. Pedophile vaccinator. Whatever, you know, like that kind of a show, that was better when that was a niche market. Sure. It's supposed to an entire political party. Right, right, right.

There was a time, there was a time and a place for it. It's too much. And now is not the time nor the place. No, and to your point about looking back fondly and resisting that, I don't think we'll ever be able to resist that again because I think it's all going to be... Man, it's all going downhill. Progressively worse as time goes on.

I find, you know why I resisted so much is because the baby boomers had the exact opposite problem Everything was progressively getting better their entire life and they took it for granted and then fucked us all over And now everything is gonna get progressively worse for our lives. Mm-hmm. What a bunch of assholes But they they still even as everything was getting better. There's the the image in your head of everything was worse Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I think it's why it was better but they had a backwards well nuts so uh... you have some issues about Alex talking about the magna card up sure and he uh...

it touches back on that here i do want to comment on uh... what you advise is to pay attention to today uh... this ruling by the this circuit court of appeals uh... u.s this circuit yes and uh... this ruling by the this circuit court of appeals uh... u.s. this circuit yes and uh...

okay so so this is the uh... our bamba that covers our bamba right where the uh... the ruling will cover the entire country not just the i don't know five six dates or whatever in the fifth circle right what was taxes, it covers him. It seems interesting what's being focused on here. We lost the 10 commandments in Alabama,

and now they're saying we're losing... Where'd they go? Well, at least this law. We have these traditions, and they are supported by our laws. The law itself. The Magna Carta, by the way, brought in what we know as the Fourth Amendment that a man's home was his castle, but the local thug, his used two tax assessors would shove their way in, have their way with your wife, steal your chickens on the public and it got so bad that low-level nobles book the king

and said look you stop this now and so that's where our fourth amendment comes from i'm not sure i think that true i'm not sure for the manman is from the magna card or whatever that means necessarily i don't even know but it is widely understood to be inspired by british legal precedence like court cases that involve searches and seizures sure ones that came way after the magna card i mean wasn't the magna card in the fifteen hundred twelve

hundred eight hundred twelve hundred yeah worse cases like and tick versus caring to him which is a big uh... search and seizure uh... related case from british law that was in seventeen sixty five right so like if the magna card had already established all these things, those kinds of cases wouldn't have been necessary in the 1700s. Right. Anyway, Alex is again showing his non-engagement to a civics here. He doesn't know if Alabama is in the 5th Circuit and he doesn't know how many states are.

I'm not saying that literally everyone needs to have this information at their disposal, but if you're someone making the extravagant claims that around topics like this that Alex is, it's bad sign if you don't. Yeah. I'm not gonna listen to you when you say, this applies to the entire United States. You don't know anything about what you're talking about.

Yeah, no, it's very important for me not to know stuff like that because whenever people start saying stuff like, oh, you see the fifth circuit court, their rulings only matter to this certain number of states. I get angry. I get mad about it because then what are you talking about? Then there's chaos. It could be anywhere.

It could be anything. I get angry because I don't understand this. So if I just don't know it, who cares? It's not gonna bother me. Well ignorance of the law is no excuse. Ignorance of the fifth circuit is an excuse for me. What do you know? Because I'm not in there.

What do you know about the seventh circuit? I never even met it. You're in it. So you got a case here in the fifth circuit. Sure. And that's out in New Orleans. Yeah. How many circuits are there total?

12. 12 circuits? Uh-huh. Okay. Doesn't? About. So it was, would Puerto Rico have its own Bakers does. I was that's what I was saying. If we get another circuit, I'm not actually sure if like Puerto Rico is covered by one of the circuits. I'll look it up while

we listen to this next. This next one. That's good. Uh, but, you know, you got in the warlands. Uh huh. And if you are going to be talking about an issue that affects Louisiana so they want caller who can uh... help you out with that uh... charles and we can't a charles go ahead and on the good sir

well i i see talking about the new search warrant uh... uh... no no need for search yes i think news and we can't well i call up the sheriff i talk to free police police. I'm sick and my stomach right now. And what did they say? Did they say, oh, it's good? We always said, what they're going to have orders to do. Like you burn trash into your yard and see smoke. You know, they got reason to come on and see make sure

they ain't a fire while they aren't at it, it's sweeping your house. If you got a bachelor in the yard or something out of the way, they can give you your ticket for it. Mm-hmm. Yep. Getting some good context here. So it turns out I've looked this up and Puerto Rico is part of the first district. Oh. So it is covered as is the Virgin Islands, that is part of the third district. Sure. Sure. And French Guiana weirdly enough. Also, I was, I was, I understood there to be 12,

but I'm only, I'm looking at this map, and I'm only seeing 11, so I might have been wrong about that. Or maybe there's a hidden. Maybe there, maybe one is like DC. Yeah, DC has, I think DC has its own district, so that might be the 12th or something.

Right, right. I'm not sure, and I apologize. Okay. Anyway, Louisiana dentures has some real insights. Yeah. If you are burning trash. Burnin' some trash. I don't wanna make judgments culturally.

Mm-hmm. You know, people do different things, different places. Sometimes trash needs to burn. People from other places look at the stuff we do, and they go, ah, I shouldn't do that, I get it. But maybe don't burn trash. Burning trash is a bad idea, right? Well, what are you else are gonna do with it? I mean, I don't, I don't do that, I get it. But maybe don't burn trash. Burning trash is a bad idea, right? Well, what are you else are gonna do with it?

I mean, I don't, I don't know, but anything other than just burning it, that's crazy. It's toxic. It's trash. I don't think that if you're burning trash, the police are gonna come and do an unconstitutional search of your place. I don't want them to even look at your place.

I want them to deal with you burning all your goddamn trash all the time. Well, I mean, it might be against the law in some places. Yeah. So Alex talks some more to Louisiana dentures here. Charles, the gentleman Charles. I like him. And I should note that I explained this case to you

with Gould and the reason that this all came about. Yes, you did. Alex has yet to he has not mentioned anything about the case right or what the grounds for this is no details whatsoever and Charles is the first to bring these up gotcha and uh... but here's the thing about it when you talk to them they got any excuse and when they come into your yard if anything they can come to the cell, I want to tweak the house.

What happened was somebody, let me tell you how it started. A guy, somebody said somebody threatened a judge. And so they went into the house, knocked on the door, and there was an X-cell and he had three rifles under the bed. And they took the house. It's not work. It's always some criminal. So because they were bad, all of us lose our freedom. Yeah.

So the first one that's he threatened somebody and he went and took the house when got all those guns and all that. When they put up the threat, gone and got in the war. Yes. Well, that don't need nothing. If you burn trash or if your kids run into trash or if he's in the tree or anything that might be dangerous, they could pay us or your kids in a tree or that you shouldn't be doing it. By the way, we want to see your house.

If you got too many dirty dishes up in the sink, they're gonna get in touch with PC. Now they tell you this? Yes, they said, any, they're gonna make a point when they come out. Finally coming out against dirty dishes. They can go for you or you go and get you. So now just safety checks of the home.

yes. and what did you say to them when they said that? I said well man you know just some constitution. I said boy you doing this, who's going to be doing this? you're assisting your mother. what if you get a don't have the police force? what are they going to do to you? what if they say to that?

well they just kind of well we didn't make it wrong. we didn't make it wrong. yeah didn't make it wrong. Yeah, just following all the stay there. Stay there. We'll be right back. Well, then they wonder what they say. We just we just work here, man. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, please come on do a sweep. Ooh, could you dishes are done?

I'm going to give you good merits. I mean, yeah, I mean, this is going to go in your good file. I feel like some some of the examples that guy gave give me pause. A little petty. Because, well, because they seem petty. Mm-hmm. But now they make me concerned.

Because he's like, oh, they're just you kid in a tree. And it's like, ah, is it just your kid in a tree? What are you talking about, actually, sorry. Are you keeping a kid in a tree? Be more specific. Are you forcing the kid to be in a tree? I said, that's what I want to know. You're just telling me kid in a tree. specific reinforcing the kids to be in a tree That's what I want to know. Mm-hmm. You're just telling me kid in a tree And I feel like you are not a trustworthy narrator. Where do you learn the most life skills in a tree?

That's see now we're getting more details and I like it less and less speaking of details It seems like this is the first time Alex has heard these details. Yeah, he does not it does not it surprises him to know that he is actually Yeah, he does not it does not it surprises him to know that he is actually fine with them getting those guns away from that guy because he agrees That guy is like oh they always pick the guy who you should take guns away from and then they use it to take away people guns that you shouldn't take them from Yeah, and Alex does actually make a fine point and that is that they could have done a search based on a warrant totally based on the threats that they had reported gotten reported to them. But that's the issue. They didn't intend to search.

They went over to talk to the guy. Yeah, they just want to be like, hey, it was incidental. You can get some information about you. Want to come talk to you, tell you don't kill that judge. It's probably more than a phone call. Well, but yeah, I don't know, I've never been in law enforcement, certainly. I don't know what the best strats are.

But I think that maybe it's an appropriate thing to not descend on him with the SWAT team over a hearsay accusation that somebody made. There could be somebody who's trying to set this guy up You know there are explanations for the tip that they got sure that don't involve this guy actually wanting to kill judges Well, so there might be reason to not approach this with I'm gonna get a search and arrest warrant To go in maybe you soft play it a little bit. Man, these people have no fucking clue. They have no fucking clue that somebody's gonna be playing video games on Twitch 10 years from then. And another kid's gonna be like, hey, guess what?

Let's send a SWAT team to his fucking house. True. That's crazy these people are nuts. Yeah. Welcome to the past assholes. I want to scream at the past now. With back then it was just, welcome to the past assholes. I want to scream at the past now With back then it was just sending pizzas. Yeah, what a crazy prank that used to be yeah, yeah real bad. Yep, but people did it So Alex lies a bit more about this story

Sure, and then Charles has a very tragic turn All right a high level federal court, the fifth-circuit court of appeals ruled. There is no more for the amendment. They said that the police can search your house or home or business any time they want for any reason. This is a nationwide, let's see the criminals now and try to carry it out.

And they'll have lots of good examples. Oh, we caught a bad criminal. We did this. It's, see, the fourth amendment was bad. And a court opened door to searches without warrants, descending judges calls ruling the road to hell. The fifth or ruling is criminal, similar to Supreme Court rulings of the past, declaring black people slaves. It is a total violation of the Belov rights and is null and void. The U.S. Congress legislature of Louisiana should

call an emergency session to investigate possible criminal charges of sedition against those ruling to eradicate the Fourth Amendment. The problem is, these judges are all part of the same system and so are the people in Washington and Louisiana. And it's just an incredible article from the New Orleans News Channel 6. There's also an article we're told we're getting that posted out of the baton ruse what newspaper is that Charles that you were looking at

the article on the saturday abacus this was a what one of the abacus that's uh... uh... a cd a c uh... a can that's our good point on the line if you want to give us a website and you have the uh... you don't worry about it don't worry about it

i thought we were going to get to hear from miss uh... miss luiziana now i have it got to hear in the background but uh... i thought we could add another character to our, that would have been nice. Or we roll the decks. Lady Louisiana. Yeah, but you see Alex has fully established his talking points here. The court decided the fourth amendment is gone and this applies to the whole country. Boom, set. You notice a little slick movie pulled there though. He starts reading off his own commentary about this. The stuff about the law being null and

void in the same voice as if you were reading from the article. And then he doesn't cite it as being his own meaningless opinions, but instead mentions an article. This is intentional. He's trying to pass that off as something more authoritative than his own dumb thoughts. Yeah. Feel bad for Charles though.

I would like to see a, I would like to see one court system, one court circuit, charge an entire another court circuit with sedition. And then just see what happens there. I don't think it could. I mean, I don't even know what the mechanics would be. I mean, me neither, but let's find out. I think what, I think what winds up happening? Celebrity death match.

Well, I, I mean, I think that it obviously has happened before that a circuit court will make a ruling and then it goes to the Supreme Court. Sure. Yeah. And then it's ruled on constitutional or what, like that happens. Yeah. And then it just is not done. So that's the Supreme Court ruling.

Right. These people seditious. They ruled something that is against the Constitution. Sure, but I mean like, you know, in a nice way. Yeah, not in an angry, yelling way like Alex would want. Right. So Alex gets done with Charles, which I mean, I feel bad. If you listen carefully, he's spelling advocate, right?

And you can make out that he's saying advocate. It would have been very clear if Alex was hadn't talked over him. Real, real, real rowding there. yeah uh... but Alex Alex gets off the call with him and gets really pumped up to go to another call okay and then it just deflates immediately i want to hear from from police on this i'm gonna go through your calls quickly the little lines are loaded

i want to hear from police good police bad police whatever do you agree with this what's wrong with me me Alex i'm a bad police of the constitution the bell of rights our better its fun died to hold these values this is the heart of america let's go ahead and talk to Emmett pencil van you Emmett go ahead yes hello Alex I've seen the passion of the christ and I appreciate mel Gibson's works but tell me it isn't true He's supposed to have said we will not get to heaven unless we belong to the church In number one, I ask at the first the show that we talk

About the fourth amendment. I rarely say that I know about an issue So you talk about that first and we talk, like what you called in about. I don't talk about that. I'll talk about my gifs. I mean, yeah, that's fair. That's, that is the fairest I think I could feel for Alex right there. Why? Just legitimate.

I'd be like, you know what? I really don't want to talk about this right now. Sure. I made that clear. Sure. I don't want to talk about this right now. Yeah, that clear. I don't want to talk about this right now. Yeah, but when you're Alex and you're like, you know, I know everything I share, you know.

You kind of lose your ability to credibly deflect. I agree with you on that front. So, but I do, Alex is credit. This guy complains about George W. Bush a little bit. Sure. And then Alex does let him speak his piece on Mel Gibson. OK. Well, he doesn't actually.

Well, Alex speaks his piece for him. Good. So Alex does at least address it. Here's that. Mars, OK, let me take your passion. Let me take your passion thing real quick. OK. I'm not a Catholic.

I think Mel Gibson's great. Look at the fruits of what he's done. I think that his father is a patriotic guy who's been misrepresented in a light about a lot. Okay, that's the fact there. And Mel Gibson was quoted in the press, and others have been quoted that that was a lie. He didn't say, I don't know if my wife's going to get into heaven because she didn't belong to the church.

Okay? Yeah, so I just think it's more wanting to get people fighting with each other thanks for the call. Thank you. You bet. Good to hear from you. Okay. Well, Mal Gibson's dad has not been taking out a context He's a rabbit anti-Semite and Holocaust denier. Yeah, Alex just kind of likes those sorts of people Further, Alex is completely lying about Mal's comments Mal Gibson absolutely said that his wife might be going to hell from an interview he did with the herald son Quote, there is no salvation for those outside the church. I believe it. Put it this way, my wife's a

saint. She's a much better person than I am. Honestly, she's like Episcopalian, church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff. And it's just not fair if she doesn't make it. She's better than I am. But that's a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it. That is that is the most honest religious statement I've ever heard from from any of these people. That is the most honest and true biblical reflection of faith that I can think of. It is a little bit of like at least you're taking the rough. It is what it is. I'm telling you about the book, right? It's what I told it's what I'm told to do. I'm doing what I'm told

So now you actually have to believe me when I say that I think God does not give a fuck about anybody God's big on this. Yeah, absolutely doesn't give a fuck about you could be great I bet you could save a million lives God would rather see you in hell than just have you say, no, I'm not into you. Yeah. I'm not into the church. Period. Yeah.

So Alex knows that his audience is pretty opposed to the mainstream churches, and at this point, they're pretty anti-catholic church. So it's pretty hard to rationalize supporting someone who believes stuff like what, Mel Gibson just said. Yeah. Particularly when you're trying to make such a big deal out of the movie that that guy just made about Jesus.

In order to get around this pretty difficult situation, Alex just lies. Out of thin air, he pulls some publicist ass line about Mel being taken out of context and asserts it is real. The shit heads greatest trick when they're cornered is just insisting they were taken out of context. For some reason, that actually works on people.

I don't get it, but it is magical almost. I mean, you saw it as a defense for literally everything Alex said in his trial, which didn't actually work, but people who weren't involved with the corporate seating are persuaded by it. People like Elon Musk are persuaded by it. Rogan is tricked by this dumb bullshit.

Like, and I watched a CNN interview with RFK Jr. the other day and you just saw him doing the same tricks. This is taking out a context. No, I'm all out of context. Yeah. And it's just, people got to not accept that as an answer. Well, I don't think people accept it as an answer. I mean, I think people love to tell themselves that they do,

but I think probably the reality is the reason that it doesn't working in court isn't have to do with like, oh, it has to be fucks or anything like that. It has to do with the fact that the jury is not allowed to be friends with people, right? That's what it is. Like, whenever those assholes show up

and they're like, oh, it took me out of context, their friends are the people who say, oh yeah, of course, it took me out of context. Their friends are the people who say, oh yeah, of course, they took me out of context. To be fair, this is the way you signal that you like people as you believe they're bullshit. This interviewer was pretty hostile towards the, or adversarial at least as a journalist. Sure.

So like that was not a friendly, friendly interaction. But that, I could see in the exchange the way that people who want to like RFG Jr. will accept that as a blanket card launch for all this insane stuff He said yeah He's my friend and you're my enemy So I'm gonna believe my friends lies and I'm gonna call you a liar even if you're telling me the truth Right and in a jury or in the trial, you know, it's like I have to sit here in a jury or in the trial, you know, it's like, I have to sit here quietly and not talk to anybody

about this and just actually listen to what I'm told is actually happening. And I can't be like, oh, I like this person more. So fuck it, you know, it's tough. Yeah, speaking to me in the courts, Rudy, America's mayor, Giuliani, just got hit with a big old defamation. I saw that and I, my brain, maybe it's because I was dealing with food poisoning, but I inserted a, a period in it.

So I saw the headline, it was like Rudy owes 14.8 million or something like that. I was like, oh, bad day. Yeah. I saw another headline is like 148. Woo, worst day. Ah, it's not good. Woo, woo, woo.

It's bad when it was 14. Yeah, but I don't know. He should, for people who are just gonna die soon, it's not good. It's bad when it was 14. Yeah, but I don't know. He should, for people who are just gonna die soon, that's not fair. But also, you know, Alex is kind of giving a method for everybody to just avoid. Just say, yeah, just not do it. Hey, come get me.

Yeah. What are you gonna do? Are you gonna send the cops to get money from me? No, you're not. You're a coward. It seems hard to imagine why a lot of people wouldn't just use the Alex method to do that. I mean, I can't imagine respecting a courtroom ever

again for as long as I live. I would shit talk a judge. Fuck you. You pieces of shit. Where are rope? That is. Look at my rope. That is fun for you.

I will continue to respect courts. Fuck them. They lose. They're losers. They're just bullies. I loved smash cut to you in court. Like, yes. Oh, I'm done. I'm done. You'll never take me alive.

I'd rather die than get a new court. Yeah, right. This is you on air. This is not. Oh, no, I can't go into a cage, man. I can't. They'll get me. This is the boy. He'll get me. This is the boy. He'll get me.

Yeah. I got to die first. Yes. Oh, nice robe. So Alex gets another call. And this is a troubling thing for anyone to hear when you're in position like Alex. Let's go ahead and talk to Kevin.

Texas. Kim, go ahead. Hi, Alex. I was called to see what I'm the work condition that this guy gave it to the public court. Then on his case, okay, the fifth circuit just says that and this

is nationwide by the way they're ruling on a particular case in Louisiana and they say they're going to use it there. Right. That just says that if they feel like it or it feels like it's for their safety, they can just go ahead

and search anybody's house or business without a warrant. This is a massive abyssoration of the Fourth Amendment. I wonder what's the name of the case. I wonder what's the name of the case. Let me dig about it. It's actually here in the stack. Oh, okay.

We also, and I don't have this in front of me, but I'm told by my webmaster we posted it. We also have another Louisiana news article about it, not just news six. Okay. Okay. That's what I want to ask. I want to research it myself. Thank you. We will get that. I believe it's already posted. If it's not, we'll get it posted. Okay. Thank you. You're bad. Good to hear from you. I appreciate the call. Let's go ahead

and take another call. Hey, Alex, what's the underlying information of this? Well, let me actually just repeat my talking points. Let me launch back into, well, here's the deal before the environment has gone because this court has said so. Yeah. What's the case? I love digging out. Yeah, that is interesting.

Whenever you haven't yet fully trained an audience to not even ask. Yeah. There's still like little blips. There's still people still pop up and like, you know what? I want to follow up on that Alex. That's not. Maybe they'll take it seriously when you say do your own research

you're not long for this show no probably not no so another caller has uh... a question about the fifth circuit yeah and this is weird because it's a valid question and then alix has no idea what this guy's talking about and then explode and we're no one will go ahead all right you know it good i don't uh... loads. Okay. Edward Nell and Ouy go ahead. Oh how you doing Alex? Good. I got a question about this Court of Appeals case. That was in the fifth circuit right? Fifth circuit. I have watched 60 minutes last night and made it a piece on Charles Tickering. Is that

Charles Tickering circuit? I don't believe so. No, that went to the, are you talking about the case with having to show an ID? No, this is the one where they were, they were kind of making Charles Pickering work like a good guy and making Charles a shooter look like a bad guy. You're about to go back to get some background. We're not all inside your head. Yes, please. Give was from background. OK, well, I watched, um, I was just chill, strict with the judge that there was all this controversy over, but Bush administration wanted to have him in some court of appeal. They think the fifth district and they didn't want him in there because he had lowered the, you lowered the, uh, this guy there, we'll cover it. I'll lower the you lower the uh stay there

Whoa Whoa no need That yelled yeah, that was a that's it. I get it. I got it. I got it No idea why you so mad. No, I get it. That's that's a very frustrating way to have a conversation with I don't think so you're that's your grandma being like always the guy from the movie you know Not the movie that you're talking about the movie that I saw the other day where you weren't there It is not nearly that it appears to be that because we're 20 years removed sure sure no no That's I know if you had been around then this name would have been a lot more relevant Yeah, this Charles Pickering was somebody who was nominated by George W in 2001 for the fifth circuit court But Dems controlled the Judiciary Committee at the time so the nomination stalled

W nominated him again in 2003 with the GOP in charge of the Judiciary Committee and his nomination made it to the Senate The Democrats in the Senate decided to filibuster his nomination due to concerns over his stated opposition to abortion and some Dice racial issues in his past. This was a pretty big deal in the news. Even more so because in January 2004, Bush circumvented that filibuster by giving Pickering a recess appointment to the 5th Circuit. This is like in the middle of that recess appointment that the episode we're listening to is happening.

It was just a few months prior to this, So the name Charles Pickering, the Fifth Circuit, this shouldn't be like, are you speaking some foreign language to me? It shouldn't be like your grandma talking to you about some X, Y or Z, a tertiary character on some soap opera. It's not like that. No, especially not for Alex.

That shouldn't be really, really important, that whole thing. I mean, for all of, if you're, if you're going to be mad about the unconstitutional or constitutionality of a cop looking in your closet or underneath your bed, you should also probably be mad about the president just randomly appointing some asshole and nobody can do anything about it. Sure. As far as all your checks and balances stuff go, that's well and good, but come on.

Well, I mean, you could make an argument that the idea of a neocon globalist like George W. Bush being able to hand pick and force through people onto this court is a contributing factor to why this decision could have been made. You think? So this does seem like another instance of Alex not really having a robust understanding of the issues that he's talking about. Yeah. And presenting himself as an expert.

And I just, I mean, he was mad. He was mad. Yeah. That was real mad. Yeah. Maybe it's because he got made to feel real stupid. It could be. Yeah. It could be. So we get another caller. Yeah, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, your criminals and I know you're a bunch of thugs out of control and I know history and we stand against you you mob a crux. He says a filth. Let's go ahead and talk to Paul and floor them. Paul go ahead. Yeah, Alex, I have to say that I'm with you. This is a very, very

concerning. I don't think that one tenth of one percent of the people in this country realize what this means. And if you look at this, this follows the problem reaction pollution scenario, like they always do. The reaction is going to be that a copper tube or a 50 or a 100 are going to get killed going into people's houses, and then the pollution is going to be no more guns. Anything else you want to add? Just think about that. That's not very pretty.

And I hope they don't come to my house. Alright, thanks for the call. Are we free human beings? Is this still America? So this is kind of what Alex would have wanted to get to. You know, the part where they ruminate about other going to kill cops if they come into their home. Yeah, that's a fun part. Tragic timing for the commercial to hit right when they play in landed. You can tell Alex is a little bit deflated.

Yeah. But I want to hit on this problem reaction solution thing. None of these fucks understand the basic concept that they're talking about. But the words are so smart to them that they can't help but apply it incorrectly to every situation. Hmm. In this framework of looking at the world, there's a problem, which is inevitably caused by the globalists. In response to that problem, the public has a reaction, which is almost always to demand that the government do something about the problem. Then, the government comes in with

the solution, which is what they wanted to do to begin with. The solution is some kind of horrible unpopular legislation that the globalists know that they could never pass without some kind of massive public outcry so in order to get it passed they caused this problem which elicits the reaction of the public making that outcry. Right. The classic example is with 9-11. The globalists wanted to pass the Patriot Act but knew they couldn't so they did 9-11 in order to terrorize the public into demanding the government to do something to protect them. 9-11 is the problem, the public demand for safety is the reaction, and the Patriot Act is the solution. This is a really important way for conspiracy theorists to understand

world events because it gives narrative structure to everything that happens in a way that's really easy to understand. And yet, every time I hear it brought up these fucks have no idea what the problem reaction or solution is supposed to be in any of this In this case the reaction is not going to be people killing cops That would be the problem which would then lead to the reaction of massive public support for fire I'm legislation bringing about the solution of gun control Which is what they wanted in the first place right? I know I probably sound a little bit pedantic here But this is a fundamental conspiracy concept,

and it bothers me how little respect these people have for the syntax of their own ideas. Like David, I could be pissed. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, because in the conception that I believe he's trying to say right now is that the problem is people have guns, right? Or patriots have guns.

No, but that is a reaction is people want the cops to take patriots' guns, right, or patriots have guns. No, but that is a reaction is people want the cops to take patriots guns, and then the solution is the cops take patriots as guns. But at no point in time does, do you, you're, yeah. No, I think a cleaner way of what he's saying is the problem is this fourth, or the fifth circuit ruling. The problem is that the reaction is killing cops when. The problem is that, the reaction is killing cops

when they come to your house, and the solution is gun control. Right, but that doesn't work, because the problem isn't, that's not, that circuit decision, it doesn't qualify as one of the problems in the way that the problem reaction solution fundamentally unfolds. Right.

It's just a little bit of a, that the problem reaction solution fundamentally unfolds. Right. It's just a little bit of a problem that I have with these folks. I just can't take it when they don't even play their own game. Well, yeah, because I mean, yeah, okay. The idea is that the problem and the solution are the same thing created by the same people for the disregard of the solution are the same thing created by the same people for the disregard of the reaction, right?

Because if things were allowed to happen on their own without this problem-slash solution, the reaction wouldn't even exist. No. People wouldn't want guns taken away from people. But again, the way they describe this, the problem is fundamentally that people have guns. That is the problem that the globalists have with Americans. Right. But it is not a problem in the problem-reaction solution set.

Right. But the words are the same in terms of letters. Right. But they don't mean the same in terms of this. That's what, like this is what is like behind all of the false flag terrorism and stuff. Those are all problems that are supposed to elicit a reaction and the government can come in with the solution. That's behind all of this. The passing of a fifth circuit court decision doesn't apply to the

the level of false flag type stuff that's supposed to elicit a reaction. Yeah. And in order for this to work, there needs to be two reactions because for what this guy is saying, there's the fifth circuit court decision, which is the problem. And then the reaction is people kill cops when they come to their house. Then there needs to be another reaction, which is the public overwhelmingly sports gun control. Then they pass gun control. I guess I got this backwards. Because I thought the original problem was the guy, the criminal has guns in his place.

The reaction is the cops then get to overstep their boundaries and people are okay with it because the guy was a criminal. Well now you're done. And then the solution is the fifth circuit court's decision. up their boundaries and people are okay with it because the guy was a criminal. Well now you're trying. And then the solution is the fifth circuit court's decision. See now that's interesting. You're trying to apply it to the actual case, which Alex really hasn't even discussed. That's right.

I continue not remembering that. No, that is not necessarily. Let me see if there's a way we can make that work. Because I think, because I thought that's what, well, I thought that's what that guy was talking about. No. Is that, is that essentially they created the scenario where the guy, where the criminal has guns?

There's too many other variables involved in order for this to fit. We're, we're maybe, you need it too deep in it. For this to work in terms of what you're saying, applying it to what he's saying, like, combining those two. Right. You need it to be like problem, problem, reaction problem, reaction solution.

Reaction solution, yeah. Yeah, that's not because that's not clean. Because the way it would go is it be the problem as the guy has guns. The reaction is the cops take the guns. The solution is the fifth circuit court guns the solution is the fifth circuit court But that is actually the problem the reaction to that is Shooting cops and then the solution is more of the fifth circuit and that reaction would lead to people shooting cops And that solution wait see it's dominoes. It might be a problem

So Paul Joseph Watson comes in to ride shotgun with Alex. Gotta do it. Check the water front. Of course. Mostly just wine about this article. Read Dredge. Yeah. And maybe the actual article. Well, might actually read it. Oh, Watson, I am just I haven't been this hot in a long time, even when they wanted to pass a bill to play everybody in forest labor camps that's word for word forest work camps for us labor camps and and and you know the the attempted martial law in road island and all of this to have them come out and do this right out in the open is despicable well and other uh... dissenting judges said it is the road to hell but what's interesting about the

original article that we posted from news channel 6 is that they've actually gone in there and amended the article and they've taken out the quote where the two distancing judges called this the road to hell. Wait a minute. Now this came out on Twitter. Everywhere else yesterday we copied it and posted it this morning and you're telling me now that you've got that they still you got to write an article about how they change that ha ha a new article so paul makes an interesting allegation here that the

article removes the fact that multiple descending judges call this quote the road to hell i'd been just going off the article so maybe the version that i'd seen was the edited one and did one of the best ways to deal this is i just consulted the actual opinion from the fifth circuit would help and there's just one judge who wrote the descent opinion makes the comment about a road to hell he says that adage about being paved with good intentions and then says quote in my view the gambit of getting permission to enter a citizens home in order to talk to somebody and then conducting a protective sweep search under the guise of sensing danger to the investigating officer

will effectively eliminate the need for complying with the fourth amendment. And at that point, we will be literally and figuratively on the road to hell. I'll say that's a little close at least. Yeah, I would give that in the margin of error. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when you think about what an editor is doing, Sure. You can understand why you might change that from the, the

verbiage in the article being two dissenting judges called it quote the road to hell. Yeah. That's not really a precise or accurate necessarily quoting of this. It is maybe technically words that were quoted. However, it gives the impression of something that did not happen. Yeah, yeah. But I think it's a little dramatic, uh, on, on, on the initial writer, sure, sure. And then also on Alex's and it's always nice to give a good road to Hell's Beach though. Sure. Huh? It's paved. Yeah. Hate it when they paved that shit. Yeah. What? Who pays them to do it?

Right. Who pays the pavers well it's good question we get to bottom of this yes but first paul has actually some knowledge of the underlying case got so he talks about that a little bit what what they've actually added to the article is that you know the phone he justification for it which is the case of uh... uh... you've been mentioned on the show in the past few seconds the case of the man named

gould who supposedly threatened to kill uh... judges and police of them for everybody else he is for their safety now for everybody else no more warrants and you always have that excuse it's so sick and what basically happened is that uh... they they went to his home, somebody answered the door, presumably his wife. She agreed that they could enter. They approached the man's bedroom and seeing that he

wasn't in there, they started opening all these closets. So it worked there, do it to everybody else, that's not how America works, either excuses. So I guess we should get rid of all police then because we caught some police vaping, robbing and killing and dealing drugs. So if I would get rid of all the police because some were bad. Yeah. But I mean will need the warrants to get everybody's house to get the guns as they ban them. They go. So Paulism details wrong. Like it wasn't this guy's wife who let the police say and it was his roommate, but good on him finally making the pivot towards what this is actually about.

Yeah. Which is how badly the man wants to take Alex's guns. Right. More importantly though, he's saying that this article added in the quote, phony justification for the decision, which is the entire case that this is based on. It's not phony justification. It's the whole story. It's the in question justification. Yeah, it's the point. Yeah.

Cool getting arrested is not the justification. Does some shadowy cabal used to make a power move? It was the situation that played out that's being heard by the court. I guess you could assume, if you assume that everything is some elaborate plan put in place by an evil group, then how could anything be a genuine cause for any effect? That's a good point. There's no way they could actually consider for a second that it could have gone either way. Yeah. Yeah. Everything by definition has to either be some stage shit or phony justification in service of reaching the evil goal of the evil group decided to get to. That's a really dumb way to deal with information.

Without understanding the specifics of this case, you cannot possibly engage with the reasoning for the decision. You're left to ramble and make up stuff about how it's secretly about how the man wants to seal your gun and all this stuff. You're left, you're at sea without a paddle. Yeah. Essentially. Also, essentially. Yeah. Also, Alex's analogy by getting rid of the police

because there's some bad ones doesn't really logically track. The ruling doesn't say that because Gould was a felon, he had no Fourth Amendment rights and that he could be searched without a warrant. It's a very narrow ruling related to specific situation that the officers found themselves in. It's not saying that because a certain group were bad, they are punished,

but that's another conclusion you might come to if the extent of your awareness of this case is skimming a drug headline and being really mad. Also, let's take the guns out of the equation. Sure. Let's imagine that the exact same scenario happened and they found ahead. Yeah. Then what? Well, I mean, but then okay, the other thing though is then imagine the exact same scenario, but they found weep. Then what? Right. You know, so the problem here is again, it's actually guns.

The problem is guns. You should have guns. Four Alex. For me. For you. They shouldn't be going, they shouldn't be going into your shit. Absolutely, I'm fine with that. So you think- But if there are guns there, well shit, I'm not gonna say don't go get those fucking guns.

Well, I don't know- But if they go get weed, you're fucking what are you doing? I don't, I don't know if I- You know what I'm saying? I don't know if I fully agree with you. I do think that if you, there should be degrees. I would say that if you're doing a protective sweep in a situation where you fear for your life and you see weed, it shouldn't rise to the level of like,

we need to consider this as part of the search. Right. If you do, if I was a very heavy word in that sense. If it's a violent felon and there are guns, and this is, you're going there because he is allegedly planning to kill judges. Then there's Extenduating and surrounding circumstances that make that Toad more of a it's not necessarily just you see a gun and you got to take it seriously.

Right the circumstances right right right but here's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm asking for Alex's behalf What if you find a head? Who's that is it someone's I mean it's not the cops head and so it's not? Who's head is it? Someone's? I mean, it's not the cops head, and so it's not really their business, now is it? Right, should Alex believe that this person should be protected from this search if they find a head while they are in the house because they got this tip about this guy

and they thought he was in that room, wanted to see you make sure they weren't being set up for an ambush. Then they find a head. That was see now this isn't it that I was going to be so precious about this. I find that example so interesting just because I feel like there's got to be so many things that happen before you get to head. You know what I'm saying? Like what I'm saying is as far as the cops

coming in and searching seizure, the roommate, when the cops chalk to the roommate, the roommate's gonna be like, his room smells like there's a fucking head in there, you know? There's a lot more going on when it's ahead. Right. Don't, guns are quiet and they don't make a noise or smell. Don't messy the table that I'm presenting this meal on.

Don't take it lost in the words. Sorry, now I'm in the mood of like, what have I found ahead in my life? I am trying to delineate that this is about guns for Alex, not about the reality of the nature of this. Absolutely. Well, that's why we could have a very interesting conversation about this very specific ruling m m but Alex can absolutely not probably not so uh... uh... the uh... uh... Paul believes that uh... the uh... the you know the context that's added to this article is just bullshit justification sure and this dynamic between Alex and him i think is really

fascinating yeah the original article this is why they did it in the original article the the original article simply stated the court case they didn't go into details they simply said due to the you know doos who they now have the provision to go in your home without warrant they didn't give the justification that this guy was you know

threatening to kill people so that not justifies it in the minds of the the sheep out there but yes they've gone in and change the article to the effect where they've uh... removed the dissenting judges comment and how the cops if they're sucking their thumbs and go i want the old lady stung on now that i've gotten her gun because i'm not safe because one of the sheet has something to defend themselves i mean they want everything we've got and then the federal courts

and state court say the police have no liability to protect us and every cop listening knows that and i don't expect you to protect me you can't why do you even want my stun gun now and you want to come to my house without a warrant you've destroyed this country you make me sick you cowardly fell and again as we've covered before it's the gradualism from the public servant from the police officer all of this kind of so much what is it like for you to watch your country being destroyed watching your police being turned into

goons don't have to say what you're about to say. So I just, I find this so interesting. First of all, the adding of context to a article weird is somehow a cover up or just flying of the, it's very, it's very bizarre. But I do believe that it exists because context is the enemy of Info Wars. Yeah, man. And so for them, it is always a nefarious thing to add context to understand the situations that they're actually talking about. But more interesting to me is this two-man team thing where Paul is trying to like just be kind of a straight news person and give you know this these the British accent very, very calm and Alex is faking these

emotional outbursts. Yeah. Like go back and forth. There's something very intentional about it that is, I find it unappealing to listen to, but I can understand why someone might have gotten something out of it. Like there's the catharsis of Alex. Sure.

And then there's the bringing you back to feeling like you're listening to something grounded in rational when Paul comes in. And then Alex gets you excited again, and then Paul has a little bit of information. And then Alex is like, oh, right, you're describing us, but fake. You're describing fake lying versions of us, doing our show poorly. Yeah, maybe that might be it. If we were full of shit, yes, we would be a less interesting version of us. And I need a British accent. And if I were faking all of my emotional outbursts.

Oi. Piece of piss. Is that good? I don't know. It's just a real laugh. Oh, boy. So, uh, uh, Caller calls in. Alex gets another call. i don't know if it's a real uh... so uh... uh... call calls and out of the call and uh... this this doesn't go great uh... let's talk to carter calirata carcola head

hey good afternoon alex pal you know i i think the biggest problem is you guys are fighting from inside the tax labor camp already who i like that but you are mentioning about the bill of rights and i come to the realization fifteen years ago they it's not a guarantee it's only a yardstick to measure government tyranny they're not going to allow us to be free and i we stand up and say no possessions nine times the law i claim my freedom

i think it's i'm not your slave but you can't because i think you misunderstand what the second amendment says and I mean just for clarification what do you think the second amendment says? No, no, the federalist paper Santa with the court rulings have said over the past 225 27 years. It's to defend against tyranny. I have a God given right as the ninth amendment says all of those are just simply pointing out rights that already have. Well but the point I'm trying to make is they always digress to

firearms and they're basically antique weapons. No, the firearm is the definition of any type of rifle or a handgun that uses powder. Right and it doesn't save firearms it says arm for God's sake. That's right all types of arms. Right. It's appreciate Right. I appreciate your call. I can tell you're off and all the lost stuff with all these groups. We've got all the magic bullets and the rest of it. It's a fight. It's humanity.

They said slavery was the law. We stood up and said no to it. We're going to say no to this. We did. Yeah, you're a Confederate royalty. You're a Confederate. Your ancestors, buddy. We is a.

Your ancestors fought for the Confederacy. You are fighting for the Confederacy at length. Calm down. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. I wonder exactly what Alex knew that caller was about to bring up that he didn't want to deal with. I imagine it's some kind of sovereign citizenship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I'm not entirely sure. I don't, I'm not familiar with whatever code Alex picked up on but I was like Man, come on let him speak his piece. This isn't go bad. Yeah. I want to hear you to cocaine. That's what I got You know, or it's just get pissed Alex off so much. Yeah, that'd be fun. I want to hear Alex Justify his own second amendment nonsense against an adversarial person. Oh god I did and you don't really hear that too often. Oh. Usually it's just him defending it against ghosts

and imaginary enemies and fake legislation that died in committee. Anyway, get another caller. This guy by his claim heard about this case, saw the article called the drug reportudge report okay so may have called drudge himself well emailed him back on the the email have been the person responsible for getting this story out onto the drudge report and therefore getting it on to info for shit this is royalty and so this guy did a little bit more

legwork okay he went ahead and called the paper and shared. Oh my God. Sean, go ahead. Yes, Alex. Let's even better is that I was listening to the show this morning and Paul, I believe, it is mentioned that they had rewritten the article and removed the quote from the dissenting justices that, you know, it's the road to hell. So I called the news channel six back up and I reminded them about my call this past Saturday. And you're doing the journalism forum.

You actually got them to go look up the case. Yeah, I guess so. I guess I reminded them that if you're gonna talk about a case, it's kind of important to let us know which one it is. Yeah, US versus school, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wait a minute. This is the first time you said that this entire, this is like three hours and 40 minutes into the show but it's no one's want to do. Yeah, US versus school, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Way to go, man.

It's the first time you've said that this entire, this is like three hours and 40 minutes into the show. So first time he's said those words, I feel a little resentfulness coming from him about that too. A little bit of like a way to go, way to run my fun on this, way to make them add all that shit. Yeah, so this guy had called the paper

and that was allegedly, according to him, was what precipitated them adding this quote, justifying this phony justification of the information about the court case into the article, which is fascinating on some level. It is. Because Paul should be telling him, hey, why'd you do that? That's what I was thinking. That's why I hear that. And Alex's voice a little bit of just like, oh, wait a wait a make sure they have the fucking case going good job

Yeah, right it's tough. We need to add context to stuff that makes it more difficult for me to play my games Yeah, yeah, it is always hard for them Especially when it comes to legal stuff because everybody kind of instinctively knows the context is really important Sure, you know like oh it is yes You're right. In this scenario, I don't think they should do that. And in this scenario, I think they should do that. Well, as we all know, possession.

Yeah. Nine-tenths. Circumstance. You know what I'm saying? People are also about it, uh, uh, uh, estimating. Fractions. Yeah, uh, uh, possession possession is i would say at least maybe one third

i don't know what one third of the law means exactly so we have one last clip here and it's the same caller and he's complaining about them uh... removing uh... the quote from uh... the judges uh... in the revised article and uh... anyway i i asked them i said uh... you know i was kind of curious in the re article. And anyway, I asked them. I said, you know, I was kind of curious in the rewriting of your story, why it is that now the new version of the story is soft pedaling the descent, and that you've removed the opinion of the dissenting justice that this decision is the road to hell.

And I quickly got transferred to the webmaster. And I asked the webmaster the same question and uh you got a little bit upset that uh one of the sheep was calling in and bleeding I guess. I got one that can see she was reporting. Yeah and uh ask her the same question and she said well you know it wasn't a direct quote and we've got a link to the uh to the to the to the to the public to pinion i'm like well yes man but that's sixty four pages of legal mumbot jambore do you honestly expect people to

wait through that they just want to hear a judge say hell uh... the salient point that the dissenting justice refer to this decision has the road to hell it's not often you'll hear a dissenting justice get that vehement by the way poll you need to get that decision and take it because you know, they'll take it down later, copy it and kind of make a section on this.

Can you do that? Certainly. Sure. So it sounds like the Webmaster had a very sensible reason for their edits. It wasn't a direct quote and the article links to the decision. Yeah. Plus the updated article still includes the quote road to hell is paved with good intentions things. So it's a fully excised. And here's an important point. What this caller's demanding the media do is dumb down their coverage and turn it into sound bites

so it's more digestible to the average person. That might be a good strategy for getting stuff out to his wide and audience as possible, but that's not what the Info Wars is supposed to be about. Alex is supposed to be about getting into the weeds and reading the documents. He has all the white papers and legislation and all that shit. He's a wank.

Yeah, a 60 something page court decision is nothing. The info war is about the raw material, so what this guy is saying in effect is that the average person is too stupid or lazy to read and understand the court decision, so the press needs to make a blur for them so they can get it. I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I do know that I think this is partially strategic at least. Alex and his ill can't spread their information except in the form of yelling and dumb down blurbs.

Anything past surface level and all of it falls apart completely. They know that in order for this story to spread effectively, with the spin that they wanted to have, that road to hell thing is pretty important. They can say the 4th amendment is being taken away, but they say stuff like that all the time, so that's going to be background noise, but if you can fancy it up with some hell talk, that's a little bit of extra flair that's going to be able to draw in some eyes. That's why you see Alex hating that beat so hard in this episode. These guys are complaining about the piece being edited, not because they actually think

there's some kind of journalistic cover up going on, but because clarifying this and making it less sensational, hurts their ability to exploit this story. Also, you can see the kind of preparation Alex did for this episode. He didn't even go get the actual ruling. He hasn't read this, and for some reason, he thinks the globalists are gonna have taken down to hide it from the public. It's fucking absurd. He does nothing. Yeah. Yeah, if you think about it there, I mean obviously their enemy is people knowing the truth of course Alex's yeah, yeah But I mean one of the larger ones is just time just time period of just like if people have to spend

30 seconds as opposed to 10 seconds reading an article. Mm-hmm. That is less Time that we can override them emotionally. You know what I'm saying? Like a motion happens instantly. So I want them to read, we're on the road to hell and then come to me immediately. Yeah, you know, I don't want them to read. Here's the case, here's what happened.

Here's the critical thinking. You're still like, you have to read, reading comprehension. And then come to me. It's work. Yeah. Your brain is doing to understand Okay, what happened why were decisions made in a certain way that is a bad road to the info war Yeah, you're exactly right the the road to hell your rights are taken away

Government's gonna be in your house Randomly checking you there's no warrants anymore That is the route to the info war. And they need to preserve that path as well as they can. Yeah, whenever they can. And that's that's essentially what they're upset about. Yeah, I mean, ladies, it is both like strategic and also necessity to make everything a sound bite. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, complaining about how the media does that. Yeah, yeah. Which is a terrible. That is a fair critique of the media. If it didn't work, we wouldn't all be doing it.

It's a fair critique of the media, but it's just hollow coming from Alex. So anyway, I have a hard out, so we gotta get out here. We gotta go, but this episode, I enjoy these trips to the past much more. And I think, I don't know, I think I might wanna stay in the past for a while. I think I wanna stay. Maybe to the end much more. And I think, I don't know, I think I might want to stay in the past for a while. Maybe for the end of the year, because honestly,

it's been a shit month. And I prefer these things where there's meat on the bones. Where there's something actual to talk about. There's something interesting, as opposed to demons and blah, blah, blah. I hate people. I hate various groups, who cares. I mean, not who cares, but in terms of listening to it over and over again

It's it's it doesn't charm. I mean, I think I think one of the simplest things we do is It seems like everybody's giving Alex a lot of attention in the present and what we do is often just go Okay, well then what will you guys have your fun? It will go elsewhere It'll the excitement of him being a Twitter and all that already feels like it's dying down a little bit. So that's great. But you know, whatever the decision is, we'll be back for another episode.

But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do, it's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we're also technically on Twitter, but. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Neo and Leo and DZX Clark. I feel boxed in by this bit and I now have begun I am free. I am free. I look forward to reading the declaration of independence from this bit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and now here comes the sex robot and the enchants us here on the earth. Thanks for holding So Alex some of the first time I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you