Knowledge Fight - #885: January 3, 2024

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan "enjoy" their first 2024 episode of The Alex Jones Show.  They tune in to find a very dumb "deep dive" about Epstein, and Alex interviewing yet another person who seems to really like Adolph Hitler.  Bad start to 2024.

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Very strange there's no way around it. Yeah, I can't have to just deal with it Yep, my right spot today Jordan as I was over at the store and what should I see but Kit Kat chocolate frosted to oh my god, chocolate frost did don't I've got out of here. Yep, it's not good But exciting I Exciting as a flavor. It's exciting that see Kit Kat getting into the game sure Because you usually see Reese is fucking around to doing all this crazy nonsense. Well, I mean Japanese Kit Kat has been going strong for a long long time That is true And we got that nice package from a listener who had some nice Japanese

KitKat. The strawberry one was fantastic. Fantastic. The banana caramel was iffy. But see, I think domestically KitKat doesn't get enough, uh, uh, get mess around. Great. Yeah. I agree. So chocolate frosted donut. Sure. Hey, hello. All right. Yeah. My good. Man, it's a thought that counts. Donut sure hey hello all right. Yeah my good Man it's a thought that counts telling you we're it we're trapped in a cooler ranch loop That's what it is like so many places accidentally nailed it on their first go around and then it the taste got trapped in the in the literal human What was the zeitgeist what was the second Kit Kat that was the cool ranch? Wait, what was the second kit that Kit Kat that was the second? And now we're trapped. KitKat, that was the cool ranch. Uh, wait. What was the second KitKat that was the cool ranch?

Yeah, because you had the Doritos Nacho cheese. You gotta ask yourself. You gotta ask yourself. Uh-huh. What does the white chocolate count for? Not much. You don't think so? I think the white chocolate counts for a lot.

Nope. I'm the big fan of the white chocolate Reese's too. No. White chocolate is the best. No, no. Little bit sweeter, little less better. That's what it is. Socks shouldn't be called chocolate.

I guess the reason this is a bright spot is that me and my buddy, Nikki Gifts, it's one of the few things that we really connect on anymore. Not that our friendship is falling apart, but he's busy, he has a kid, you know, like so our lives, we don't live in the same city. Our lives are, you know, disparate and it's a nice way that we can connect that we take pictures of weird novelty candies that we see. And like, oh, look at this one. That's great.

Yeah, it is kind of a nice little thing that we can still share. Yeah, that's more the bright spot than the actual chocolate for us to donut, which again, not good. Maintaining a human connection, even whenever it's extremely difficult with those like small things. That just goes such a long way towards... It is a little thing. Yeah, but you can think about it, you know? Every now and again, you can just happen to be like, yeah, I do appreciate that.

Yeah, it's nice. When I see a funny candy, it makes me think of my old buddy. Yeah, it's great. So, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is... I'm gonna go with one more time. This is the last time. Dennis.

No, what had happened was. Oh, okay. Season finale. Yep, and I will tell you this. The reason is my bright spot. One is a great episode, but it's my bright spot because it blew up a new level for me that I didn't know.

I didn't know this. Okay. Before Kanye took over B, common seminal album, one of the greatest albums of all time, Questlove had finished like six tracks, producing it. Oh my. So there is an alternate universe B

produced entirely by Questlove that is now trapped inside my brain. Like I wanna hear those. You gotta do a Marvel's What If. Absolutely. And that time would be different. How do you even know about Marvel's Inside my brain like I want to hear those you you got to do a marvels. What if? Time would be different. How do you even know about marvels? What I heard about it somewhere? I don't know probably some fucking video that was recommended to me on YouTube Fucking page. Yeah, I don't know I also I knew I knew of it like as a thing before there was a show You know like the what to the watcher sure sure sure

Sure sure idea of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a series of comic books right right right and I was vaguely aware of that as a child Right right right right. I got you but I've disconnected from this nerd stuff. Wow There's there's nothing more fun than taking beloved characters and putting them into a different situation like whenever News radio was on the Titanic. Great stuff. Or in space. Or in space, Phil Hartman. Right.

Ah, Phil Hartman just, just, just, Phil Hartman dressing completely nor Phil Hartman as an exclamation. That's great. Yes. No, no context. No need, no need, no need. No need, no need, no need, no need, no need,

just Phil Hartman. Handidic. And, well, that requires a lot more context. Stephen Root. No need it. Just Phil Hartman. Handidic. Well, that requires a lot more context. Steven Root. Oh, God. Steven Root has the best career of any human being in the entertainment business. Yeah, I mean, he's an office space. Yeah, he's a Jimmy James. Yep. He was in the man in the high castle. Sure. I'm trying to create the broadest range of character actor roles that he's done.

I mean, his voice over career, extensive. Sure. Always pops up as a little character. You know, like a dodgeball and stuff like that. Always pops up as a nice little character. Always does his job. Doesn't it? Gets in, gets out, everybody loves it.

Here's another alternative universe. What's that? B Produced by Stephen How about that That universe Stephen the roots Hey, you guys that's start this shit now. We're writing it. We're cooking with gas Get Marvel on the line. So Jordan today we have an episode to go over and I regret that we're doing it. Yeah, well, that's why honestly, this sucks. This bad episode. Okay.

Bad times. We're talking about January 3rd, 2024. First episode of 2024. Oh, um, the Wednesday bad. Bad. Didn't, didn't start off the new year on a, on a new note. Didn't have any resolutions that would at the very least start off with new year on a new note, didn't have any resolutions that would, at the very least start off with some sort of novelty or anything like that. Nope, just running it back. I mean, there's a certain sense that this has a novel aspect to it.

Okay, it's just the worst kind of novelty. Well, there's that. So we'll get down to how this all plays out. Okay. But first, let's say hello to some new wankers. That's great idea. So first, Frank Brewer, thank you so much for your now, policywank. I'm a policywank. Thank you very much. Thank you, next. Congratulations on your wedding all over in Kelly, Dan and Jordan are now your globalists

in law. Thank you so much for now, policywank. I'm a policywank. Thank you very much. Thank you, next. Sometimes when my partner starts the car by phone, uh, by phone, auto connects to the Bluetooth, so she's greeted by Alex viewing hatred, but I also listen at 1.5 speed, so he sounds even more coked up. I love you guys. Keep up the great work. Thank you so much, you're an out of policy. I'm a policy. Thank you very much. Like, oh, next I joined to express my support for healthy work, life, balance exemplified by taking a little break. Thank you so much, you're an out of policy . I'm a policy. Thank you very much.

Like, oh, next Spotify just informed me that I listened to you guys 19,173 minutes in my first year of knowledge fight. Thank you so much. You're now policy won. I'm a policy won Thank you very much. Not good. Don't do it. I don't know how many that is comparative I know it's a lot right. I don't know how it is comparatively. Well, let's see all right 60 minutes per hour Well, I was yeah yeah, I was going to go a different route from that I'm not confused. Okay. There's 24 hours in a day. We're close to 24,000 minutes. All right. So I lost track of where I would go next 24,000 minutes divided by 60. Yeah. So that gives us 20. Let's just round it up to 20. 20,000. 20,000 divided by 60. Yes. This is excruciating for people.

So now we, we, we, we, they are listening to us not use a calculator. It's all of this problem, but instance. It's probably six months of your life. Yeah, that sounds great. We're gonna take a credit in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Alex ripped off the quickening from Art Bell.

Thank you so much. You're an out of technical grad. I'm a policy walk. For starters, the home team of the teller, you're brilliant. Someone, someone, satamite, sent more than tell it, you're brilliant. Someone, someone, suddenly I'm looking to poop. Daddy Shark. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So, um, obviously, one of the biggest things that's going around in the news, um, and this day, uh, is the Epstein list. Sure. Sure. Sure. Presumably being released or maybe not because there was one of the Jane Does, who was trying to get it postponed and then we're talking it was going to be postponed.

Sure. 20 second. Yeah. And then it got released. Judge. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of energy around Epstein. Right. And so one might think that that is why this episode is going to be terrible. And it is part of it. Sure. But it's not the whole thing.

I, I'm, here's what I believe is going to happen. Okay. And it really bumps me out if you're Alex. I believe Alex is going to defend people going to Epstein Island. No. Oh, okay. However if you're Alex. I believe Alex is going to defend people going to Epstein Island. No. Oh, okay. However, you're not,

I don't like that, however, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm not super far off in terms of what I feel like Alex is doing is playing deflection slash defense. Ooh, so we'll get to that, but we start off with Alex talking, run it down the headlines and touch it on the Epstein business. Okay. To be here, okay, let's run down what we're going to be covering and more today, obviously. I'm not going to mention everything we're going to be getting to, because you never know,

stuff's breaking while we're on the air, and we have a bunch of special guest joining us. Epstein list remain sealed until at least January 22nd. I said yes today, I bet they don't release it today, but they seal it again. We're going to talk about why there's a lot of blackmail going on behind the scenes and some big developments there, but I had filmmaker and former info or so. Jason Burmison yesterday, he was hosting the fourth hour and I hosted part of it with him and just hearing him rattle off, he's really good at collating everything. I was like, man, there's a lot of angles. I've forgotten to restate about Epstein.

Because as Marmos points out of uncovering Epstein for at least a decade, and he reminded me of so much information and people obsessed on flight logs. They have obsessed on his so-called black book. But the big inch alott us are manifest and manifold and Legion manifest manifold and Legion. All right. I mean, that's a nice little trio. Sure. Yeah. Barnes would be disappointed. Yeah, it doesn't have the full. It's not the rhyming and the

eliteration going. Yeah, you're not you're not wrong there, but it does have a it does have a flare to it. I like it. I would lose. Burmus has got to be pissed for sucking or for being told he sucks all the time. No, because you know, on our last episode when we were back in 2012, right? We heard Alex say that Aaron Dykes has made the best report the best maybe he's second. He might be the best for maybe second best to Paul kind of sucks compared to Paul. Fucking Burmess should be the guy. You think he should be Alex's guy. He's been there, he, while he went away for quite a while,

and he and Alex weren't, I don't know, I don't know if they had a falling out or what, he wasn't around, but he was there in the early days. He was the info warrior. That was his show. He made loose change. No, no, you don't understand. If you're a narcissist, you love people right up until they love you back. And then you're like, fine, now you're in my stable of people I can exploit.

I'm off to try and love the next person who doesn't love me yet. Jason Berman should have been in the conversation for the top spot with Aaron Dix and Paul Joseph Watson. In the stable, that's all he is. He's there. He's on the burner. The burn by service. Oh, nice. Oh, actually, I read Barnes would be thrilled. Yeah. Are we holding ourselves to the bar and standard?

For rhymes. Yes. And pun work. Not pun work. Anyway, sure. Alex has been coming up, seeing forever. Yeah, behind W and scooped up, stuffed out of his Zorro ranch out of his New York sex dungeon and out of his Caribbean rape island. But they did take photos and admit that they have hundreds

of not thousands, dozens and dozens of boxes full of videotapes and full of CDs and full of computer hard drives. So when I say hundreds of not thousands, probably thousands of videos on when you've got buckets, boxes, just full of hard drives, full of VHS tapes and full of DVDs. It shows that it's going back many, many, many, many, many, many years. Because you got the VHS from 20 years ago, 25 years ago. 30 years ago, you've got the CDs and DVDs from 20 years ago, 10 years ago. And you got all the hard drives.

Box after box, closet after closet, room after room, and everybody is completely focused. And including myself, even though I'm one of the first ever talk about all this, if not the first. Only because I was already hot on the trail because of Ted Gunderson and all those patriots that were exposing these networks. That's how I was aware of it. I knew people in Hollywood and told some of told some of the things they'd heard were going on. And also on the news, how a lot of this has come out in the news. I mean, he's a news house.

He's a news house. So I've been speaking a lot of assumptions of what he imagines this evidence might be in the Epstein case. And he may be right about some of it, but he also may not. Yeah, also just to love the generations of technology. But it was a little,

it was a little bit of a chart of evolution. Mm-hmm. I'm less interested in his assumptions about that stuff and more interested in his absolute lie that he was one of the first if not the first to cover Epstein's child exploitation. Yeah, that's disgusting. You can go through Alex's history and you'll find that this is an absolute fiction. Epstein had been indicted in 2007 at which point Trump's future secretary of of Labor Alexander Acosta and Alex's body Alan Dershowitz negotiated in a non-prossecution agreement. He sentenced to 18 months in prison which he served in a very minimum security facility, and was allowed to leave for work release. Subsequently, after he got released, there were a number of lawsuits, there was a lot of media coverage to this, particularly in places like the Miami Herald. If you go through Alex's old episodes, dating back to 2003, he doesn't talk

about Jeffrey Epstein at all until pretty late in the game. The word Epstein comes up, that's mostly when he's talking about the Epstein bar virus, not Jeffrey. The first time Alex ever actually covered Jeffrey Epstein was on January 2nd, 2015, which was after the news about Virginia Gaffer's lawsuit had broken after that news, which again was in the news. So everyone had been talking about Epstein quite a bit. What months up to this point? I looked just mostly interested in that story because it involved the royal family through

Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton. This gave him an angle of attack and made it easy to fold into his narrative world so he pounced on it and he's talked a bunch about Epstein's sense, usually in irresponsibly sensational terms. Yeah. Alex was late to this story, but that doesn't look good for him. He's the profit guy. He's supposed to be so many steps ahead of the mainstream media, so to have ignored this

story for about seven years, while the mainstream media covered it seems kind of weird. Little weird. That's why he lies like this, and he pretends that he was hot on Epstein's trail from the early days, waging a one-man crusade against him while the world just sat by and enabled him. The media sat on their hands. Another important point is that this is what is important for Alex. The Epstein story isn't about understanding abuse of power or getting justice for the victims. This story exists in Info Wars coverage to use as a cudgel against his enemies, whether

or not they were actually associated with Epstein and as an avenue to inflate his own ego. The Epstein story is about how right Alex is all the time and has always been and that's why you need to take him so seriously in the present. It's super easy to illustrate how right you are all the time if you're willing to lie about what you said in the past and create narcissistic fiction about yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Yeah.

So, this is bad. You know, like obviously, his coverage of Epstein and stories that involve exploitation of children are always really bad. But like I said, that's not the reason that this is launched into really bad episode territory. That is because of a guest that he has on, that he introduces, he's good, the guest is gonna come on later, but he brings him up here at the beginning.

And then I have a very interesting guy I've been watching for, I don't know, it's gotta be more than a decade and a half on YouTube and places. Not that's brother Nathaniel Kappner. And I think the guy is very interesting and entertaining. He's Jewish, this Jewish Christian and he's a mellid a bit over the years. I'm sorry, that's not good.

Actually, you know, puts his case out, so just attacking people. And so I thought we would hear from a orthodox, I guess, or Messianic Jew today. He's not too far. Sorry. And I'm going to get some folks on to, or pro-Israel soon, like the super informed, awesome folks over that run rebel media, Ezra Levant, and others. I just recently got invited to go over to Israel and see for myself, I've also been invited to Egypt, I'm invited to Russia,

but I haven't gone because there's just too much going on here in America, but I'm tempted to go. It's too much going on. Yeah, that makes sense. Not a great sign here that Alex is saying that he's been watching this guy for a decade because brother Nathaniel is a raving anti-Semitic lunatic. Yeah, yeah. He's a guy who like harasses people on the streets and he runs a website

called Real Jew News. The homepage of that site says this on the very top in the header, quote, I wish to warn how jury is destroying Christianity throughout the world. We can stop already. Yeah. What at any time? So what the fuck are you doing using the word jewelry? It is like is it a lot you don't even need to you don't need to finish a sentence unless it begins with Racist use the word jewelry a lot and non-racist don't It's a trend hmm demonizing Jewish people is like literally his main issue

He's not someone who opposes Israel or sports Palestinian rights He's a violent anti-Semite who put out a video about how exciting it is that people are starting to like Hitler the day before Alex had him on for this episode. Yeah. Literally everything on his website is about attacking Jewish people. The Jews did 9-11, the Jews killed President McKinley, Jews rule every aspect of society and stopped Ron Paul from getting into office. What did the Jews have against McKinley? I didn't read that article. I don't know. But yeah, what a shock this guy likes Ron Paul.

Yeah, that makes sense. So all this is pretty predictable neo-Nazi type stuff on this website, but there's one section of the site that I found particularly interesting. It turns out in 2009, brother Nathaniel was putting out some articles that were accusing Alex of being a shill. From one of them, titled, quote, is Alex Jones a Zionist shill.

Here I'll read to you from that. Sure. Quote, the simmering controversy of Alex Bullhorn Jones being a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist agent and spinmeister has now spilled over onto Jones' own public prison planet message board. parentheses C below. All right. I'll give him a I'll say

My grade is overwrought at this point in time is is writing is a knocking size Despite alleged message censoring efforts by Jones personally and his staff According to a number of postings which are exorpted below Jones is allegiance to Zionism stems from two things one His core Protestant fundamentalist Zionist belief system and two widely circulated reports that his wife is a legionist to Zionism stems from two things. One, his core Protestant fundamentalist Zionist belief system, and two, widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew, which would make her their two children Jewish under Talmudic law. Nathaniel has been pretty directly critical of Alex for years, like in 2017, when he said, quote, many fear using the Jew word, but instead use generic phrases, like Alex

Jones uses globalists. So if I'm to take Alex seriously, he spent a decade watching this guy spout violent, he's a medic trash and regularly insult Alex and say he was a shill for the Jews, so afraid that he needed to use code words like globalists in order to stay on the air and now he's decided to have him on to have a talk about Israel. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. This is what someone does. And, you know, it's all part of the show. Come on. Who doesn't aid? It's a disgrace.

It's disgusting. The last 10 years have caused that same kind of political realignment that I think people believe happened in the 60s the same way. And it hasn't caused it in political party party though. Everyone's still pretending to be exactly the same while some of them believe in complete opposite things somehow. Wild. Wild. Speaking of people in a political party, sure, Alex has another guest on this episode who should be thrilled that he's sharing a broadcast

a day with someone like brother Nathaniel. Dan Crenshaw? No, it's someone who's been known to pee on live mics. Ooh, here we go. His name rhymes with cake. Can I all right? So we have the deep dive next hour. It's a red herring, the little black book.

It doesn't exist. He had dozens of these black books. But we want the hard drives. And going all the way back to VHS over three decades He was working for Masad in my six-in-CIA. Masad heads were caught there all of it All right Joining us now is Vivic Ramaswani Super smart love his analysis. He's doing irrevocable damage to the globalist that have hijacked this country

That's that seems to be Alex's catchphrase. Is he's doing irrevocable damage? And that's the way of getting around the like, you know, he has sorrows, connections, and shit early life. Sure, sure, sure, yeah. He's gotta be real, he's doing irrevocable damage. But I don't know how he is. He was trying to make change from the inside.

And then as he, that's a better angle. As he, but as he left when he realized that he couldn't, he dropped a Truth grenade and jumped out the window as an explosion went off behind him and he's very good at truth parachute That's well, I mean obviously you're gonna jump out the 70th floor of a live building Definitely makes his run for office seem super real incredible to me. Oh my god.

He did lead coming back on in for a while. I can't, can't we all as a society just decide, you know, like violence is wrong, but also we need to bring back throwing vegetables at people. You know, I think, I think that there is a, a, a realm of violence that, that, you know, I never, I never really was too offended by people pouring milkshakes on folks milkshakes so I don't know is a tomato in the same territory you know I don't think like I if I were

doing stand-up and someone threw a tomato I would not feel attacked no I would feel I would yeah there is a certain part of me that would be like sir correct answer that's it that's within a well laid out tradition of not appreciating someone's performance. Yeah, I'd be like, I didn't even know we still did that. A pause to you. So I, you know, Vivek is on and it's largely a conversation about how like, you know, him being in the race is important

because then there's two people who, so they can't just kill Trump because the vehicle be there. That kind of stuff. It's like, you got to know understudy. Protect it so that keeps the pre-Madonna from being hurt. Yeah. It's like how you have a buffer,

if your vice president is insane, then they won't take you out, but they aren't in office and he's not his vice president. Is that like that same mentality? Is that, that's, that's like continuity of running for government. Yeah. Continuity of lunatics. Yeah.

So also, uh, Vake is a little bit bummed that people aren't thrilled with his most recent endorsement. No. All right, my friend. We love it when you pop in. You're very gracious. Good to have you back on this 24. Where would you like to begin? You know, it's I mean, I was actually just came straight off of getting Steve King's endorsement and getting

Exchorinated by the media for it and it just shows how corrupt a lot of the media is and frankly a lot of the Republican Establishment do you know Steve King, right? Yes Yeah, he's a true patriot cool Cool guy. Cool guy, Steve King. Not a racist. The fake going to bat for Steve King. And being like, that guy likes me. I genuinely thought that we were done with Steve. I thought that once actual, like, even the racists were like, Steve, come on, man, just don't say it. Yeah. Well, what you gonna do? Just gonna do this and complain to Alex

about how no one is thrilled. You know what, like Steve King anymore. Yeah. So you have Vake is bummed, no one's happy for him. And then he has another thought about the primary. And that is what the globalists are trying to do. Like a lot of people are saying that, you know, they don't want Biden, right?

Sure. And bring in Gavin Newsom or something like that. I don't know if anybody's really, really, really. Well, that's what the right wing conspiracy ding-dongs are saying. I would rather bring back Hillary. Fuck it. Really piss him off. The fake has another angle on this.

Okay. All right. I worry that a lot of the Republican primary voter base, because the mainstream media is pushing a false narrative, is about to fall into a major trap. on this. All right. I worry that a lot of the Republican primary voter base because the mainstream media is pushing a false narrative is about to fall into a major trap. And it's one that you've

been calling out for a long time. I think you have been way ahead of the curve on this. I came around to this in the last couple of months as it became more obvious to me. I think this system, I hate

to say this because it's wrong and it's immoral, but this system is not going to allow Donald Trump to get anywhere near that White House. If you think they're going to just let Donald Trump get back to the White House again, open your eyes. And I think that if I've seen what's happening, it's the first true thing he's ever said in this, that I think really through a wrench in this for me was I knew they were not going to allow Trump versus Biden election. There was something else going on here. Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, which

puppet were they going to prop up? But then you actually follow the facts. You open your eyes for the last several months. Who are the people that are supporting the lawsuits to keep Donald Trump off the ballot? Who are they supporting? Who's Larry Fink supporting? It's not Gavin Newsom. It's not even Joe Biden. It's actually within our own party. It's Nikki Haley in this race. And so what they want to do is to narrow this down to be a two horse race between Trump and Haley. That's the plan at least. That's right. Bird brain. Bird brain. You've been targeting her stootly from the beginning. She's very dangerous. Yes. Yeah. So that's the plot. Yeah. That's the plot to bring

it down to Nikki Haley versus Trump in the prime Trump would destroy I mean right now Trump would destroy literally everyone. Yes. Yeah It doesn't matter if you prop up Nikki Haley as a second option in the GOP primary If it is only her yeah Still Wonder like if Trump isn't running. I don't think I still don't think she's gonna win the nomination I feel wonder, like if Trump isn't running, I don't think, I still don't think she's gonna win the nomination. No, I find it fascinating because everybody who told me

all anything anybody told me about voting for Biden last election because of blah, blah, blah, all that stuff applies more to Nikki Haley this year than it does to Biden or Trump. It's all, it's literally like- Can you lay out a little bit of the blah, blah, blah, blah? I mean, that whole like electability who is going to win an election. In a real in a world without Trump.

Yes. Nikki Haley wins against anybody. Well, if the right wing voter base was looking for electability, and someone who's not outwardly, clearly nots. Right, but they're not. Right, but see, that's my point. Is that all of those people who told me all that nonsense about Biden

should stop pretending and should vote for Nikki Haley and make her the Republican nominee. If they could switch their primary... Yeah, if they can do that, a lead-ass. They never really believed in anything anyways. So this might be where we get that power swap that you want. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Why not? It makes more sense than relying on Republicans to do anything close to the right thing. And you don't actually believe in anything. So you're saying that like center Democrats could essentially take over the Republican primaries by shifting parties.

Correct. Vote for Nikki Haley. Yes. That would be chaos. It would make more sense than whatever it is they've chosen to do for the past my entire life. I do see the sense in it. I still think that they would be probably betraying a fair amount of things that are politically supposed to be what they... Sorry. I didn't mean to over exaggerate

that maniacal after a quote Jordan fake life. So Alex is gonna do this deep dive on the Epstein situation. Jason Bermes is gonna come back in, they're gonna take care of it, gonna get really into the weeds, they're not, they're gonna be real fuck heads. But yeah, first there's other business.

Okay. It's crazy because I've been covering the pedophile rings. The massage CIA, MI6 operations and King Charles and Jimmy Sevelle for 29 years on it. Don't you dare say anything about Jimmy Sevelle. You foot Ted Gonderson and General Parton and all these experts, former FBI agents, former top generals that explain to me how they were controlling people. And so I have forgotten more than most people ever know about this, but Jason's done a really good job at getting it all together with the documents. That's coming up in about five minutes when we come back from this one little short 60 second break. But right now, I want everybody to listen to me very, very carefully because just like our information is game changing, this is incredibly game changing information.

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Only white people will really need this. With a broken chromosomes. I know who my audience is. Yeah, exactly. So Alex brings in Jason Burmuss for this deep dive and Jason goes a little bit off track right from the jump. So Jason, you're going to be, you got your own computer system. You're going to be putting documents on.

We'll be putting them up as well. Start with what you were saying. You actually had to four-thousand. I put it on X got about a million and a half views just on our channel. A couple of million more other places. It's exploded. A lot of folks are tuning right now. Should give people the real deep dive

until we go to break in 19 minutes, and then I'm gonna come back and get into the areas I want and give us, you know, the million foot, you are the whole nasty thing and tie it all together and explain that this is how they control things. The currency is children. And now with the biomedical tyranny and the UN treaty, they don't want just one of our children. They want all of our bodies. It's about rape. It's about owning us. It's about that power.

All right. Jason Burmese. Alex, you know, I was going to begin with the Epstein saga all the way back to what we now know is at least publicly the first report to the NYPD and the FBI all the way back in 1996. But you said something key. You talked about the quote unquote, finders group. And this was a group. Okay. So we're going to veer off into finders stuff. So that's good. That's great. Yeah. So yeah, this this deep dive is we're going to get all into the, it does not really, it's, you know what it is? It's just a barrage of touchstone talking points and and Jason going off on weird conspiracy tangents about a subject that I resent them not taking more seriously. I think it's fucking I've it's it's no good. So Jason talks about the finders because

that's where he's he's starting things off great. And he's not not really on the right track. The quote unquote finders group. And this was a group that had not the connections to the Central Intelligence Agency in the 80s, but the initial incident, which if anybody looks at the local police reports that you can find on the FBI's own website and written, by the way, is so disturbing and egregious you have to wonder what was going on. These children who were extremely dirty were playing in a park and the adults that with them didn't seem to be their parents when

law enforcement investigated. These people were connected to the internet before the internet existed through their van through wireless technology. So they had all of this high tech gear. The kids were clearly abused and I'm not going to even get into how grotesquely once they had medical examinations. But we're talking

about young children being angly abused. I'm going to leave it at that. Leave it at that. Really this whole thing was fired up, but it led into what was essentially an underage black male ring inside of DC. And we actually put a portion of it in the film Invisible Empire, a New World Order to find which you produced. And what was so

scary and egregious in that case is you had somebody who was sitting in Congress, Barney Frank, he was not out as a homosexual at the time, but he had hired basically this young madam, this male madam, and this guy was running a brothel, not only out of Barney Frank's apartment, which they had ethics hearings on. Anybody can watch those on C-SPAN, but it actually went to the local Chevy Chase middle school and involved the vice principal. This was all the way back in the 80s. Now fast forward to again that first report on Epstein in 1996.

Let me just stop you. I'm gonna give you the floor in a moment, but since you got into Finders, they even rated this big warehouse that had all these satellite uplinks, all this high tech equipment, where they were shooting child porn. This all came out and again, the FBI confiscated it.

And I'll leave it at that, I guess. It was CIA, just like it was Epstein. This all didn't come out. So there is a distinct possibility that those children that were found in the van the finders at that eight nineteen eighty seven arrests there's a possibility that there were victims of abuse as is often the case with cults sure but also the media botched that story considerably the uh... people who uh... did the investigation

found that they couldn't rule out abuse. Sure, but not that they could indicate that there was abuse. Right. And so the media screwed that up and that's what Bermus is reporting on. It's a far more sensational story. Yep. Everything else that Bermus is saying here is unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense that is no basis in reality.

The CIA connection that Bermus is hanging all that on is that the CIA sensement employees to a company called Future Enterprises Incorporated, which taught computer skills in the 80s. At some point, a member of the finder's name Robert Gardner was employed by Future Enterprises. Oh. Also, the leader of the group, Mary and Petty, his wife was employed by the CIA in the 50s, but it died in 1984, and there's no connection that's ever been established through her with the group to the CIA. Right.

Right. At the time of this 1987 arrest, the story got whipped up into the prevailing satanic panic and everything about the case got sensationalized with fantastical details, like what Bermace's regurgitated. Right. And then in 2019, the FBI released over 300 pages of documents about the case and none of this stuff is in any way backed up by them. So what do the truth seekers at the Info War? What do they do? They hold tight to the satanic panic gossip conspiracy shit while pretending that what they're actually doing

is basing their coverage on the legitimate sources like the FBI release. It's a parlor trick. That's what they do. Yeah. Barney Frank associated with a male sex worker named Steve Gobey, who was alleged to have been running a sex work operation

out of Frank's house home. There's no indication that there's anything further illegal about it, like involving trafficking of kids or blackmail operations, as Burmese is clearly trying to insinuate. Sure, but running a brothel is illegal. Right. Yeah. No, hey, there's nothing we can do about that. I'm not going to pretend that.

I don't think it should be. And morally, I'm against that. I agree and I would say that I think that it is Ambitious that's not the right word extreme for someone to be running a sex work operation out of the home of somebody who's sitting in Congress Yes, I feel like that's overly complicating things in a way that maybe is inappropriate I wouldn't have picked that as my first spot. But turning this into a part of this conspiracy is different. Yeah.

Yeah. So he brings up the Chevy Chase middle school, and it was actually an elementary school. So this has to do with the principle of Chevy Chase Elementary School, Gabrielle Masaro, resigning after it was revealed that he had been involved with Steve Gobey and allowed him to use the school after hours to conduct business for his escorting sex work operations.

Right, right, right. I'm all for sex work, legalize, etc. No, can't do that. Sorry, buddy. Nope. Nope. Nope. You can't be using the guidance office after hours to make fun calls.

Sorry. That's just not going to go. It's really inappropriate and obviously not okay, but Bermis is trying to imply that it's had to do with something, to do with like crimes against or involving the students at that school, and that is not the case at all. No, no, no, no.

They're but if you're doing it out of a school and people claim that you are, that one's on you. That one's on you, not them. It is understandable. Exactly. For people to be like, what the hell? But it is not understandable for someone in Jason Bermes' position to play this fast and lose with details Correct.

In order to paint the picture that he wants to paint. Yes. Alex and Bermes are doing what they do with every topic. They're blurring details and exaggerating things out so they can exploit optics for their own narrative purposes. It's an absolute disgrace to do this about a subject like this, but what can you really expect? Crimes against children evoke a very visceral response from people, and once you've created that response, it's really easy to hijack it and use it for your purposes.

This is just a game to them, it's just a game. Yeah, it is one of those things that it should give us all pause. How effective the satanic panic is, despite the fact that we all How effective the satanic panic is, despite the fact that we all know about the satanic panic. Still, like the people who are engaging in satanic panic behavior right now could also be like, yeah, man,

I lived through that satanic panic. Those parents were crazy. Well, they could, or you could be like, Alex and be like, it was all connected and they covered it up. Yeah, yeah. So I noticed one thing in their coverage of this. Yeah. That is constantly saying that the list that may or may not be coming out that day is a red herring. I'm sorry. Remember all the reviewers.

You're hearing nothing about all the DVDs about the hard drives, about the VHS tapes, closet after closet, grab by the FBI. You're hearing nothing about that. Why? It is again, the list is a total distraction. What is on the damn videotape? Keep going. That doesn't seem like a normal angle for Alex to have, and the only conclusion I can

come to is he was very worried about whose names might be on this. Yeah. This really seems like we're going gonna do this to create a distraction from an inconvenient realization that Trump was more associated with Epstein than I have insisted for years. Yeah, I would say I would say this. For all of the claims of people being pedophiles now, all of the like random super fast. Well Alex is gonna say in a minute it's half of the Democratic Party.

Totally, totally. I think all of that is effective and is the result of Clinton and Prince Andrew not being in jail for the rest of their lives. Sure. If they, if anybody could say, because the most famous two people in the world in the 90s are put in prison

for the rest of their lives, right? Then all of this stuff of all, have the democratic party is it when there are not- When there are not responsibility, and there's not accountability or consequences meet it out, then it creates fertile territory to make up whatever you want. And that is not healthy. Yeah. And it's where Alex makes a lot of you want. Yep. And that is not healthy. Yeah.

And it's where Alex makes a lot of his money. Yep. So Jason Burmess, I found his sourcing on some information to be a little troubling. This is a good indication of that. And you know, getting into some of the stuff that isn't talked about a lot, you know, yesterday, Alex, we talked briefly. Ranch now, so are some articles over there where people

can see that this was a place where Epstein wanted to facilitate a baby making ranch. And this place, unlike New York, allegedly has never been investigated. In fact, it was sold earlier this year. And you know, I'm going to

be careful when I say this, but Courtney love was one of the people inside that black book. I ended up getting in touch with Courtney loves father. They had obviously had a falling out by then she made he actually made accusations that she was responsible

for Kirk Cobain's murder. I'm not going to go here nor there, but he essentially told me he never came on air, but I have the logs and I've done videos on it that a lot of girls didn't make it out of the system. And when they were used up, they were either taken out to that desert and basically executed or taken out onto the water and thrown overboard. And he says he knows this because his daughter told him this. And again, I'm not saying that's factual. I'm just putting it out there. Just putting it out there.

I have a hearsay that I apparently talked to Courtney loves dad about. I have second hand at best. At best. Information. If this conversation happened. From notorious, accurate storyteller, Courtney Love. It's, it's, yeah. From through a source that actively hates her. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm not saying that you have to not believe everything Courtney Love says. Sure. But her dad is an unknown entity. Yeah. In a lot of ways. Not a fan of Courtney Love. This is But her dad is an unknown entity. Yeah. In a lot of ways. Not a fan of Courtney love.

This is not what someone who serious would do. I would not report on that as being information worth going on. No, but you really, you really wanna get into this stuff that you don't wanna get into. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, we'll just leave it at that. He really does seem to have a knack

for bringing up stuff that he insists he's not bringing up. Courtney loves dad, says that she killed Kurt Cobain. Now I'm not gonna touch that. This thing that I just brought up. We definitely don't want to exploit any kind of, I mean, now admittedly, in the past three sentences, we've brought up 18 different horrifying exploitable sensationalized crimes. Now it's not. And then said, no, we're not going to talk about that.

No, I'm just going to put that out there. Yeah, I just want you to have that in the back of your mind while you hear the rest of my lies. So in the middle of this deep dive, Alex discusses, he's kind of getting some special treatment for me, a lot of musk. Yeah, yeah, he is. But it's a problem. Because as you see, there's a lot of people who are seeing his content, but no one's buying shit. Maybe you want about months, that's throwing on the gauntlet

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How many chemicals? There's a lot of them. There's so many. And they can always be exciting. What, you know, that's the thing that I really wish we had, like, you know, all those futurist predictions from 1940. What will the world look like in 2024? All of that stuff all of those I wish there was one cynical assos just like they are going to

Unregulate a fucking shit ton of stuff, and you're gonna cram it in your body all the time all those all those things you heard about Oh, you're gonna eat pills. No, you're not gonna eat pills You're gonna eat food and then kill yourself with pills for some reason. And Alex is going to excite the shit out of you whenever he has something to do in. It's going to be the, it's going to be the thing. Take not Coke to feel like maybe you took Coke. Well, or Coke. Oh, so we, we get back to the deep dive.

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weird, suspicious. That, that, uh, I wonder, is it, it is like because even though they're related, it doesn't matter. Dr. Jones isn't being sued. So if Alex wanted to, he could move his entire suite of products over to drjones natural dot com have drjones natural dot com pay an exorbitant advertising fee in order to do all that stuff on info wars that's exactly what they did with pqpr right right right right but this is after a bankruptcy settlement if if it's approved and all that if it's after that after a bankruptcy settlement, if it's approved and all that, if it's after that, then they can just do it again. I imagine there would be some sort of a difficulty with that.

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Okay. And it all is just this barrage of non-sequiturs and all the, the Alex's contribution to it is all just the same shit. Yeah. And you look at this. This is really their control system. I want your view and your take and your expert view and we produce films decades ago on this you and I on on on how big this network is and how do we defeat them because it's hiding and playing view that MI6, MI5, CIA, Mossad, Interpol's huge unit. There's a massive child kidnapping, right rings that came out of the Netherlands in France.

And Rothschild Castles will kidnap women and children found in the London Guardian reports, you know, 25 years ago. I mean, there's so much UN worldwide sex slavery rings in Europe that in Haiti and thousands of kids kidnapped and shipped out of Hillary's, a head of her foundation goes to prison for smuggling little kids illegally into the US that disappear

and then the current open borders and the mass smuggling and sex slavery of children and senate reports. I mean this is, this is coming out. Then the transgenderism and sexually targeting children to confuse them and move them to be sterilized. I mean it's about targeting our children. So give us your summation and then we'll get into more details of why they're doing this, what they're going to do next, how much danger the globalists are in, and how do we get attention on the justice department, not just suppressing Wiener's laptop, which you know is full of this, and tied to Hillary and Uma Abedin and Chucky Schumer, but it's just, it's everywhere.

This is how they operate. I mean, I would say what? Half the Democrats are pedophiles, guess the nation, maybe 15% of the Republicans, you know, look at Dennis Haster. What? You can't shake a stick in the dark and not hit one of these things. The 50 versus 15. I mean, I don't even know. Alex just makes up numbers. I mean, what? Right. Yes, I understand. I what, but it's, it's not that the, it's not the numbers that Alex makes up numbers. I mean, what? Right. Yes, I understand. But it's not that it's not the numbers that Alex makes up. It's the comparison point. Right.

And what it means inside Alex's brain, that is so crazy. It is. It is. Because it really doesn't mean Alex believes these people do anything. It means I believe Democrats are more evil than Republicans. And I'm using all of this stuff.

I'm exploiting all of this language that you care about to hurt people. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about with the you build up this visceral response and then you exploit it. That's the exploitation point. All the mortars pop up up up up up up and then it's all transgender peoples fault. Exactly. all the more there's a pop up and then it's all trans-ender people's fault exactly that's that's the point where the exploitation of the extreme response and emotional reaction that you'll have to these sorts of topics transitions into being targeted at somebody yeah it's targeted at democratic politicians uh and uh LGBTQ folk well it is it is like I emotionally disarm you. And then once you've got no defenses, I go,

and it's all transgender peoples fault, the end. Or at very least, like Alex isn't actually interested in justice being served. Oh no. He's not interested in the victims of Epstein and his associates. He's not interested in a thorough accounting of the people who were actually involved.

He's interested in exploiting this in order to add fuel to the, you know, first of all anti-LGBTQ narratives that he talks about and the Democrats. And part of the reason that the Democrats are so evil is they support LGBTQ folk. If every name associated was dealt with appropriately, every single one of them, Alex would still claim that this is all conspiracy against just Trump. Probably. Yeah. Yeah.

So the bottom line, like I said, most of this, this big presentation, this seems to be the bottom line. So it's, it's lives and the lives we have to set over the client list we have set so the flight logs important gives us ideas you know there but it's that it it's that's like knowing somebody is a suspect in a murder and you are witness as we are soft john do shoot the woman in the back of the head in the yard put her in the back of his car the police go there open the back of the trunk the woman's in the car and then they go and grab him inside and he and you know, under her

fingernails, there's his skin where she's scratched him. That's open and shut, murder one. You're going to the electric chair going to lethal injection these days. So all I'm saying is, don't fall for the trap of sitting there and when they sp-bice this in with these people, and I look Hollywood so evil. I don't know what Tom Hanks was into, but we need to actually go out to people that we have red handed like Bill Clinton, like Bill Gates. Donald Trump. So yeah, I mean, this is just a don't be don't be sucked in by the client list. Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do it. I mean, it's so obvious that the...

It's fine. If it's not, get them. Let's deal with this. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is like the list came out and then everybody on the list should be arrested tomorrow. Sure, but from what I understand, the actual thing that was revealed was not that much more information than was already available. Sure. I mean, I imagine... And there is still more information to was already available. Sure. I mean, I imagine. And there is still more information to come and stuff. So, but which says even worse things, you know. Sure. So he's speaking of even worse things.

Yeah. We now get to brother Nathaniel. Great. Showing up. Okay. You may have forgotten. I just forget. I did forget. He was destined to arrive.

Bummer. So Alex introduces him in a dishonest way. All right, I have seen this guy for 15 years online and brother Nathaniel Katner joins us. He was born to teach his parents at the range of traditional Judaism and synagogue. Having said heber school, shabbat school and regular synagogue services he felt

from his paramedics the days that something was missing in Judaism. At the age of 19 he read the New Testament and the first time was in events that Jesus was a Messiah later on. So, the old life, he felt necessary to start a real Jews news website and video to point of the dominant influence of Jewry in all facets of American life. And this is part of a series I'm doing where we have Nick Pointezzon and then I'm going to have Ezra Lovanna, things awesome on. I love Jews, I love Muslims, I love everybody. I want to be clear about that.

But I think we should hear what the different sides are saying. And I used to see Katner very entertaining and you know, kind of being aggressive and you know, mad at certain groups. I think now I see videos. Pretty powerful, things he says about Christ and mad at certain groups. I think now I've seen videos. Pretty powerful, thinks he says about Christ and about the Orthodox Church. And I'm not part of that. I'm just a Christian, you know, the Holy Spirit. And I think it's important to have these dialogues and then ask him questions here today that I have. I don't think that he's actually all that associated with the Orthodox Church. I think he's just a madman. Yeah. And he's mentally unwell. Yeah. And he's mentally unwell.

Yeah. That is definitely true. Yeah. So you can see a bit of the slight a hand trick Alex is trying to pull here where he's acting as if he's doing a series of interviews where the different parties are either pro or anti-Israel. That's where rebel media had Ezra Levant comes in.

He's pro-Israel, and Alex referenced interviewing him to get that perspective. The problem is that the other side that he's interviewing isn't actually anti-Israel, they're anti-Semites. Brother Nathaniel Couchers' anti-Semitism and an opposition to Israel, so does Nick Fuentes, and let's throw yay into that pile. Alex doesn't actually have any representation

of a real non-bigot opposition to Israel position on his show. The only two sides are extremist support of Israel and varying degrees of crypto anti-Semitism. You can easily see the problem that this presents. There are very many understandable reasons to be critical of Israel's government right now, and in fact, it's very difficult to conjure up a sensible defense for their government's actions in Gaza. Alex's audience is very primed to be receptive to the entry Israel positions, and by having

outright anti-semites be the only representation of that position on his show, Alex is funneling his audience directly towards hate. This isn't an accident. It's a fundamental dynamic of the entire information space that Alex exists inside of. Most people who have credibility or sincere actors probably wouldn't agree to come on info wars but there are some who would do it. I like to never want that kind of person being the voice of opposition to Israel's actions in Gaza because it would be too difficult of a conversation for him

and it would risk them pushing back on other essential parts of his game. Because he only really associates with other people who are also playing games themselves, this is what we get. And let me be clear, I'm not just talking shit and accusing Nathaniel of being anti-Semitic when he actually just doesn't like the Israeli government. He did a three-part series on his website called How Jews Think, and I'll just read off a couple of the points that he brings up. Quote, the Jew loves being in control. The Jew loves to be at the top of the ladder.

If Christianity were again to be in predominance in America, the Jew would be horror struck. For then he would have the finger pointed at him that he is a Christ denier, a stubborn stiff-necked hater of Jesus Christ, and a supporter of the Jews who brought Christ to pilot to have him crucified. So we got DSI'd gone. Sure. And there's another one. Always a good one. Quote, the Jew will use every means possible to undermine Christianity and whatever nation he may reside He will always cry look what they did to us as if he's an innocent lamb without any faults But whenever someone shows why quote they did this to them he shouts back your an anti-Semite So this has to do with in the Daniels frequently stated belief that the it was the actions of Jewish people that were to blame for Hitler's

Decision to do the Holocaust which in theory also's a hoax, which is kind of confusing. Yeah, that is confusing. Here's another one. A quote, the Jew does not like to perform manual labor. To make money, the Jew is dependent on the labors of others. Therefore, the Jew is primarily founded service professions. Alright, man. It's very explicit in his writing that he isn't just opposed to Israel or Zionism.

He believes that he is at war against the Jews. In one of his articles titled, quote, How the Jews are Destroying America, he says, quote, Jews, mostly Zionists, have spearheaded every movement that it now threatens our destruction. He makes a distinction between Jews and Zionists, and it's clear he's talking about Jewish people as a whole. He proceeds to say, quote, what can we do to stop the Jews? Will we fear and quake before the buzzword of anti-Semite or will we stand in battle for the survival of Christian civilization? It's up to all of us to wage war against the Jews, especially we Christians for America will either be a Christian America or a Jewish America. There is no in between.

Alex is professing to have a solid awareness of this guy's work and he's been watching him for a decade. This is the work that this dude puts out. Alex has every reason to know exactly what he's doing. There is no leg to stand on that he thinks that this is going to be any kind of other conversation than what it is. Yeah. Fucking garbage. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things that like as we, you know, I've given you a little bit of an understanding of what Nathaniel does Sure, what his product is right and so it becomes really difficult to stomach this when you realize as Alex Explositly says here he invited him on and so brother Nathaniel Kappner you can start wherever you want here I just thought you'd be interesting to have you on. So thank you for accepting the invitation.

There's a war going on in Sunsu says, and already are about you must know who the enemy is. Or we're shadow boxing. I say Paul says, I know who the enemy is. I can go right to the Bible and I can go to the book of the Apocalypse and our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ said it twice. The synagogue of Satan. We're off to a bad start. Yeah, this is not good. No. And if you want to look him up, get a visual visual of the sky Because I think you might look exactly like you imagine. Okay So if you pull out your phone you want to look him up. All right, that's by all means feel free to do that all right brother Nathaniel What's the last name? I don't remember at this point. I just keep calling I as as my naming of clips

Wet down. I went from brother Nathaniel to Nathaniel to Nathan to Nate. But it's got less, less, uh, affordable. All right. Well, see, this is a, you know what, you know what makes it easier to look for? Hmm brother Nathaniel. Antisem. Oh my god. He looks exactly like what I thought he would look like. Yeah. His voice matches his, uh, his appearance. Everything about it. Yep. Yep. Yep. So he gets even more explicit. Jews are the enemy. They run everything in this country. But they run internationally all the Western governments through money. The famous saying, I'm sure you know that Alex by mayor and shall Rothschild.

Give me a control of a nation's money, and I care not. Who makes its law? So no one can provide a citation for that quote. People have searched far and wide for any evidence that it was actually said by Mayor Amchelle Rothschild and they've come up with nothing. Right. It feels like something that he would have said, and it works really well for conspiracy theories, so it's regurgitated nonstop. But when you hear somebody repeat that,

they're probably not somebody who cares that much about facts. Probably someone playing a little fast and loose. Generally speaking, quotes are just leaping alone. That's one thing that I've learned from this show over the course of doing it, and seeing Alex's constant fake and dubious quotes. It is, it's the mark of, you know what the problem is though, and seeing Alex's constant fake and dubious quotes. Yeah.

It is, it's the mark of, you know what the problem is though, is when someone is able to quote literature or something like that, it is very, Oh, absolutely. It's a mark of somebody who's well read. Every happy family is the same and every unhappy family is different, simple. What is it, who's at that?

So do- This caromazov. Oh. Close. Yeah. Debate at that? Brought to you. This is Cara Mazov. Oh. Close. Yeah. Debateably close. Debateably close.

So, he believes that the Jews are the enemy. Sure. Great. Not great. Terrible. Terrible. He believes that they control everything, including the stock market. And this becomes an issue for Alex.

Well, that specifically is the problem. Yeah, because of a relative of his that I forgot about. So this is what I grew up in. With a father, strong orthodox shoe, strong religious and racial identity who was not a Zionist, who understood where the money comes from. My dad knew it because he played the stocks. His brother, his younger brother, made over a million dollars in the stock market, never worked a day in his life. And my other brother was a stock, his

other brother was a stock broker. I think I understand some things that skews the expression that goyum could never understand. Well, it was actually my ancestor, direct lineage paternal, who invented the stock exchange. He was English. His name was Grashem. His symbol was the Grasshopper. You say that Jews invented the stock market. Well, they did. The Jews, okay, you want to say somebody's somewhere here invented it, but the one who internationalized it was Jewry. Okay. That's, that's the your dodge. Okay, that's that's the your dodge. Okay, fine. You're weird. You're weird. Oh relative invented it, but the juice popularized it. It's like hip hop.

It's a it's another it's one that I forget from time to time of Alex's lineage. The Gresham. I mean inventor of the stock market. I he's everything every single import. He's like the Steve Pechenek of lineage. Yeah. Every important person. Oh yeah, I got a homeroom to that person. Cool man. Yeah.

So one thing that I think is strange is that Alex has had this guy on. He says that he knows what his vibe is. Sure. Been aware of this guy. He invited him to come on. He's out of the box said that Jews are the the enemy right that was a bad move right but what's even a weird to move is Alex it's trying to find common ground with him well i mean we're all people you know right at the core

very i'm sure rott shout was right give me a control the nation's money i don't care who makes its laws and this is what Larry Larry Fink of BlackRock is part of. It's part of this whole Rothschild orbit. Well, think did say we're gonna control everybody's control corporations, you control media, you can control every hack on Capitol Hill with money. Well, Larry Fink, Larry Fink will never go to jail. Never. I guarantee you he will never go to jail.

Well, Larry Fink did say, I we will control everybody's behavior with money. He does. He owns broad shares in Disney. So he's part of this woke thing because the whole and I learned this from a child, the whole thing about jewelry is a destroyed Christianity. Now, if they can't destroy Jesus Christ, which is impossible, they'll do everything they can to undermine his teachings. And one of the teachings of the Bible is that the male and the female come together for

procreation and holy matrimony. So they're going after that. They're going after that first and they're going after the youth. Me and you, they're not going to get Alex. Okay, we're over 50. The over 50 crowd they could care less about. It's that nine year olds,olds a 10-year-old Hold on hold on. We gotta go to break. I want to come back into being you on this because I just think

Well, let's just talk about it. We'll be right back. Yeah, he's on a debate not a bait Alex is trying to find a common ground desperately by being like oh, I don't like anything either. Yeah Yeah, I don't like anything either. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are we doing here? I don't know. What is, what is, here's what, here's something that I think. Here's what something might be true.

If you let somebody like brother Nathaniel or Alex Jones or whatever, lay out a long enough plan, you like Alex Jones,, will find a personal connection to why it is not true. You'll find something where you're like, you know, no, I remember my ancestor created the whole plan. I think that's the weird thing about how interconnected we all are.

You know, like that whole statistical thing wherever there's 100 people in a robe. There's one. Everyone has the same birthday. Something like that. Yeah, one of those things. Like the same birthday. Something like that. Yeah, one of those things like if you let these people talk long enough you will personally know they're lying to you. Right but if you're a liar like Alex, they converse.

You don't have any choice. Converse is true. You let a guy talk like this long enough you'll find things that are like fuck I agree with you. Fuck yeah. That is a good point. Well actually let me even distill this down even further. You'll hear constant things that you agree with but you'll find something that's safe for you to agree with You can't help but after you agree with one air right right yeah, so Alex

I you know I will never say to his credit But he does try to defend Jewish people and that doesn't go I imagine that's not gonna go well Nah, I want to just have a big tent and I see a lot of Jews that you know call in and on the street that support me that are that are just conservatives and are good people your dad was and you know we had you know all these great Jewish people on over the years you know doctors and scientists that are fighting tyranny and I just think it's not fair to them to just say this is a Jewish conspiracy. You can say there's an organized global, you know, different racial crime groups.

And we know that's real. And I get opposed by those groups. So that's all I'm trying to say. I'm going to give you the floor now. I'm going to shut up. Go ahead. Well, look, let's name some names. Let's start with that. And let's see what their

race is and what the price of it. Somebody press the button. Who's ahead of Disney? Robert Eiger and Alan Frank. I don't like the way he said it. They're What are they doing? Well, they get a lot of money from Larry Pink, a black rock, who's into woke to destroy the youth to get them to cut off their penises and stick in uteruses. Okay, they're Jews. There's two Jews. Let me give you another Jew. Oh boy, don't say. I'll burn the borla, I think is name Greek descent ethnically, but Jew racially. He is the head

dude of the clutch shot. A poison in your vein, the mRNA, it's not a vaccine. Is it you? There's two. a vaccine. It's a Jew, there's two. Famedical, the Jew. Culture, the Jew. Disney, okay, Pfizer. All right, you can see a CEO of Pfizer.

Of course, he's a front man. There's money behind it. Jewish money. Alex, what are you doing? I just wanna, I'm gonna debate this guy, by which I mean let him list off the names and Ethnicities of everyone that he can think of at any given point in time great cool cool. This is Dark yeah

Yeah, you know what always you know what always confuses me about these hmm Wait, I know I mean it doesn't it doesn't actually confuse me, but I get it. It's just like, man, there are so many CEOs. I get that you can list off, you know, and that, I mean, to a lot of people, it seems like how many CEOs could there possibly, there's so many of them. There are much. There's so many. Don't, I mean, that doesn't matter how many, There's so many, don't, I mean, that doesn't matter how many, on anything under like 150 CEOs, I don't care what your sample size is. That's, isn't that the point of demographics? Well, and also, I mean, like, these people that you're taking aim at

are about conspiracy nonsense. Yeah. Like, there's valid criticisms of Disney, and they're not yours. Really not the ones you're making. It's valid criticisms of Pfizer, and it not yours. Really not the ones you're making. Valid criticisms of Pfizer and it's a clot shot or whatever bullshit you're going in. Seems, I don't know, it's just all very stupid. And I mean, I can't stress enough how

pathetic it is, just Alex sitting there and it's like, I'm just gonna let this guy name off people and demonize them about their Jewishness. Yeah, just Alex sitting there and it's like I'm gonna just go let this guy name off People and demonize them about their Jewishness. I mean, we couldn't even sit there with that going oh Yeah, yeah, it should be a physical visceral reaction, you know, you shouldn't we I didn't think oh I should react this way to this input. Yeah, no, but Alex doesn't have that same instant. Yeah, that's a bad thing. Yeah, so apparently the Jewish people took over the country back in 1913. 1913?

Yeah, fat, the fed. Well, I mean for sure. Yeah, that makes sense. So Nate talks about that a little bit. Now, I'm always going to go back to this and it's becoming going in one year out together, not with you, but with others. Give me a control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws. America lost its sovereignty in 1913 when the Jews from Europe headed by Paul Warburg

and his brother Max Warburg, who were connected to the Rothschild dynasty, those are the raised their parents and they took over our money printing. And Andrew Jackson wanted nothing to do with it. He's the real hero. Are we going to have another Andrew Jackson? You're not going to get it in with Trump because he is tied into Jewish money with all his real estate. Trump because he is tied into Jewish money with all his real estate. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Trump's daughter is married to a Jew. So he's got Jewish children.

I want to. He's a Jew because his first wife is a Jew. Alex, I know this because he never got to the New York. Whoa, don't. See, every boy is your girl who wants to convert to Judaism to marry a Jewish boy. Jared has to go through the Micah. These are something I understand. Nobody else does.

She never did. She didn't have to because Ivana is a Jew. You look at her face. We all know. Here's what I'm going to say. Here's what I'm going to say. Look at my face. We know who we know each other.

OK. She never went through the Micah. She's already a Jew because Jews race their race. And races, everything in the mother is them. It's everything. Did the mother. Okay. Okay. I mean, this interview should have ended. There's no reason to continue this interview. I mean, past the point where he says like Jews are the enemy, like maybe 40 seconds. And she talking to him to him. I don't think there's much reason to ask him questions about who Ivanka decided to marry? I would say to everyone listening,

there are plenty of people, you know, there's tons of people who are already on board, but there are plenty of people who might push back, right? Refer back to the tomato conversation, and then listen to that, and then see if your opinions have changed. Maybe back then, maybe an hour ago, you were like, oh, I think tomatoes are the wrong way to go.

And then you listen to that, and you already got a tomato in the air. Yeah, it seems hard not to have one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And locking load your members of the nightshade family because it gets worse. When Jesus said the synagogue of Satan, he is talking collective. Jews operate as a collective. You want to find out how many Jewish organizations there are? You can't count them.

There's probably a thousand of them. Jews operate as a collective. If there's probably a thousand, they can't count them. He's a real very countable number, but he won't be countable. Never condemn the Pharisees for crucifying our Lord God and Savior. I'm sorry. Do we still need to? Are we? Are we at the place? Now, still where it's like, oh, you're not condemning this active terrorism, the killing of Christ several thousand years ago. Your neighbor, who happens to be Jewish, might be a perfectly nice person, but still a member of the synagogue of Satan. See, that makes me think that this isn't about Israel. This isn't about Zionism at all.

Doesn't feel like it. It seems like, um, toop to Nazi fuck. Yeah. Oh, well, I do like the idea of, uh, my next interview series is going to be all the different flavors of Nazi and we're gonna figure out What shade of beige goes best with what form of uniform? Right. Yeah, great. I mean, I think I think that obviously Having an interview series with people like this. Mm-hmm. That maybe could be something that is useful to public That maybe could be something that is useful to public understanding, you know, like, but it would have to be someone very well equipped and prepared to have an adversarial

interview with someone like this. But, you know, knowing what people in these Myers think about and talk like, maybe that could be profitable to people's understanding of like people actually do think this and they have an audience, these people exist. Maybe that does help some public awareness. Alex Jones is not the person to do that. He's not equipped and he's not even setting out to do that. No, and I mean, promoting this guy.

And considering the number of this Nazi dress as well, we've read over the years. Yeah, Lord knows who's fucking I don't know who. And far be for me to be pretending that I could do it. I couldn't have a conversation with this guy that would be productive. I don't want to more than I could or I don't even want to think about whether or not I could. I don't want to. Right. Yeah. I don't want to either, but I, I don't, I don't even want to think about whether or not I could. I don't want to. Right. Yeah.

I don't want to either, but I don't harbor on labor under the delusor. Sure. Like, oh, we put me on the bike with him. Yeah. I will do a responsible, effective interview. I don't think I could. No, I'm not trying to mark Walberg this plane. No.

No, certainly not. So Alex asks him, I guess he wants to get off the track a little bit. And he asks him about his conversion to Christianity And so he tells you that's gonna keep you back on the same track It's a long story great. It's a long story and has to do with his rabbi Spitting when he hears about Jesus Yeah, it's a mess, but it goes so long. Okay, so I just cut to the part where Alex takes issue with I was with the juice for Jesus movement. I had an album with them and all that but it goes so long. Okay, so I just cut to the part where Alex takes issue with some. Okay.

Now I was with the Jews for Jesus movement. I handed out the booklets within them and all that. And I knew all the time that there was something missing in Judaism. So with that, but not full time. Because I wanted to make money. I was a good Jewish boy. I wanted to make money and I became a salesman. But I would hand up booklets with him

Jesus may be kosher if you don't like being born try being born again. Let me let me stop you again. Nice. Don't need to continue to store, but Only Jews want to make money. I mean, this is this come on I don't say yeah, you said you're not listening. Here's my deal. Here's the deal. I'll try to have a little bit of good. I cannot. I cannot sit there and say one group of people, let me ask you this, this is a serious question. Because I'm actually some name. Well, let me answer question. I understand. It's like Alan Dershowitz would said, Jews shouldn't apologize for being successful. Okay. The point is I never said that. I said, Alan

Dershowitz said it. Your buddy, it's on Twitter, it's on X-Polite. On a list. Alan Dershowitz says, Jewish never apologized being successful. On a list? I'm saying nobody. Here's the deal. Here's the deal.

I've been successful with my list for supporting me that I don't have any groups, not the CIA, not the FBI, not the ADL, tell me what to do. Okay, so I know damn well my audience and myself, but it was operation. So I'm just tired of apportioning magical power to Jews. And then if I slip on a banana peel tonight,

that I'm not. Magic money buys politicians answer my question. So you think only Jews like money. I never said that. Okay. You can say you could say you would choose. That was a good Jewish boy. I wanted money.

It's one thing to make money. It's another thing to break money out of thin air. You would I would be counterfeit if we did that. So man, he is just like so desperate to find a safe way to attack this guy that he makes up something. That's weird. Alex's impulses here are very weird because I hate Nathaniel. way to attack this guy that he makes up something. That's weird. Alex's impulses here are very weird because I hate Nathaniel. Yeah.

I think he sucks. And even I can tell that I wanted to make money like a good Jewish boy, I can tell that's a joke. Yeah. That's, that Alex intentionally is misreading that to have a safe way to kind of pretend that he's pushing back That's what he's doing. He's trying to create the appearance of Disagreement in some way as opposed to the fundamental disagreement that he should have with this guy, which he doesn't yeah

Yeah, yeah, it is it is not a Disagreement if you, listen, I know the stereotype, but I'm an extremely greedy person. That doesn't help. That doesn't help anybody. You're just reinforcing a stereotype. Maybe. Faya association. So there's another angle of this too

that I think is really interesting. I don't really fully understand how to flesh out and explain. Yeah. But you know how Alex constantly says that people take things that he says in jest or satire. Yeah. Yeah. And then they attack him over it. Yeah. He's doing that to him. Yeah. Yeah. He's doing the thing that everybody he says everybody else does to him, which is the constant dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not good. So we get to Putin. I wish we didn't. He likes Putin. I'm not surprised. Yep, I'm unsurprised. So they talk about Putin here and Alex can see something that is bizarre. The globalist, whoever you say runs it, go after anybody

trying to create their own monetary system, Kedafi, Saddam, you're right. They always start a war. So are you expecting a war? Start over. They can't get rid of that out of a badderer Putin. They would love to. They're using Ukraine boys, these poor Christian boys to get rid of that out of Vladimir Putin because they got this crazy woman who was born noodle man. Her name is Victoria Nulon. Nulon, Nulon. He changed the name. Goesh, Shanae. Let's goesh, Shanae. Nulon. She was born noodle man, okay? Because I know this. We all know this, okay? She's the one that wants to destroy Putin. Jews hate Russia because Russia is now re-bitalizing what is known in Karmut, Parlon, to Byzantine Empire.

And by the way, stop there, that's true that he's revitalized Byzantine Empire. What? Wait, why are you agree? That's not in line with the things that you say all the time, Alex. Putin's trying to revitalize the Byzantine Empire. That one. I thought he was just trying to protect Russians in the Donbass region. I mean, or, or at the very least tried denocification as a, no, he's just getting to reconstitute the Byzantine Empire.

Yeah, that one, that one does sound, and I'm going to throw this word out there. Imperial little, I'm all right. this word out there. Imperial. Little. I'm all, yeah. Revitalize the Byzantine Empire. Good stuff. So, if you want to. If you want to revitalize an empire. Yeah.

All right. Generally speaking, revitalize suggests that it returns to similar, if not greater, position of power. Yeah. If you have lost territory, revitalizing that might be retaking or perhaps invading other people. And I'm not the greatest expert on empires

and maybe geographical history and stuff like that, but was Russia even in the Byzantine Empire? Is it more Mediterranean? I don't, I mean, I think it extended Eastern enough to count for some of Russia, but it wasn't like all of Russia. Yeah, I'm looking at maps here. I pulled up a map here.

Yeah. It goes east enough to touch Russia, right? Maybe. I don't know. It's, it's,'s well maybe the Soviet Union Well, I think I think there we go. I think that reveals a far more than we really want to do. Yeah, that we're running back the pieces together Yeah, yeah, that is the video. Okay, so we can wait Nathan sure, Daniel sure Nate. He knows people who know Putin know Putin, because of course I love these people.

Really don't think he does. Putin looks at the long range. That's how he's operating his military operation, Ukraine. Not to just go in and destroy and destroy. He's linked at the long range of attrition. He's a very clever man. I know people in my orthodox church who know him personally. And they tell me things that

no one else is going to know about him. I know how he operates. So he is in it for the long term. Now, 2024, maybe a lousy year for us. Alex and I include you with us. I do. Okay, because you're fighting for a sovereign America. And I am too. But the difference between you and me is I name the names who are the real enemies who are really controlling these things. Because this is the whole Jewish mind I grew up with. How are we going to control the glam?

Because the Jews look upon the glam as stupid. Yep. So Alex, what are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? I Well, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to debate this person who I disagree with violently about their Anti-Semitism sure now I will give them the floor to list the names and ethnicities of And then I'm also gonna let him spout as much antisemitic bullshit as possible.

File nonsense. Yeah, I'm not gonna push back on it beyond to say that, you know what? I think sometimes he takes one single stereotype a little bit too far. In a joke. Humoristic. Yeah.

And then I'm also going to allow him to say that we're alike, but the difference is that I name names and you don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a coward. I would really want to let that one slide. Yeah. Oh, God.

Not good. So instead of being too upset about that, Alex decides to go ahead and plug his website. Great. People can find, what's the best place for people to find? We'll do 50 more minutes, but when you find your reports, they will see real. Real. Real. Real. I do videos state of the art videos. Micro FX. Well, both people away. Stay the. I've seen a Marvel film of all the things with everybody and listeners, you know,

get mad Alex. I want you to tell you I want to tell you they they banned Bible with brother. I wanted to just do the Bible. I was reaching the kids 1617 18. Hold on. We got to go to break and speaking of making money. I got to make money to fund this operation. The crew of the satellites, the legal star. That's what I'm saying. From two, I think Trump's great. Thanks, Trump's great. Good, good, good, good instincts. So they canceled Bible with brother. Can you believe it? This is about as horrifically anti-Semitic as like Dean Martin on one of those roasts in the 60s. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, the big picture, I get a real bad vibe from this guy, even despite what he's saying. Like, if you take what he's saying out of it, the way he's communicating and such makes

me feel bad. Yeah. If I were somebody who was in an interview position, I wouldn't feel comfortable with this. No. Even if you wasn't saying all this horrible shit about Jewish people. Yeah, he's got the wrong meter for the way you can, yeah. Yeah, not good.

So Alex comes back. I don't know why are you continuing this? I thought the part of the like, we gotta go to break was a little bit of a, we can, No, I need to do a plug. Yeah, and then I get you off. 15 minutes more with you.

Oh my God. So Alex, this clip is just titled Alex asks stupid questions and get stupid answers. And so, you know, are you saying, do you believe the Kazarian thing that Oskinazian aren't Jews or is it the Babylonian captivity or Sepharonics, the real Jews? Are you saying they're all Jews? And there's a lot of questions. Okay. We left itizarah theory as kids. This was a theory by some scholar who was made popular by Arthur Castler, called the

13th tribe. Kizju's off the hook were deicide. Oh boy. There was no Jews today because everyone's a Kizah. They didn't crucify Christ. It's a collective. So it's just a stupid Kazarian myth. It's totally a historical, no historian worth as well.

If you're a collective, hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on, hold on, let me answer your question. Let me answer your question. Is it the Sanhedrin and is the Sanhedrin secretly operating? Here's don't need a Sanhedrin. They don't need it. It's called the synagogue of Satan. They're all connected through it, through money, through culture, for the destruction of Christian mores.

Now, you want to bring on transhumanism, trans, transgenderism, the main money makers of Jewish surgeons, the main pusher of transgenderism, of those who own the media. I used to live near the owner of CVS. His name was Murray Rothstein. He changed his name to some of the red stone, like he's some blue blooded Yankee, we laughed at him but the

goyum don't know and he started this MTV to destroy the youth now I wanted to just talk to read my Bible with love. I decided I'm gonna just do Bible with brother on you too I'm not gonna do any politics but I want to be really cool and I want to reach the youth. Seems likely it's to be really cool and I want to reach the youth seems likely It's gonna be real cool. I don't think this person Mm-hmm is someone that I would want to put on air. I would say Counseling oh, that would be good. Yeah, no, I think it I don't think it would take I agree with you there Um, I think that here here's the bottom line too.

If you go to his website and you watch any of his state of the art videos, I was worried. I think you would immediately come away with the impression, I don't think I want to talk to this guy. I don't think this is going to be fruitful. I think you'd predict it would go like this. And Alex, instead, has been watching this guy for a decade and decided I'm going to have him on as the voice of opposition to Israel. Yeah, great. Yeah every time every time

All of a sudden not a nowhere MTV man made it to ruin the youth. I did that's I'm glad that's still around But see his perspective that MTV was created to destroy the youth is Evidence for me that his Bible with brother show would be really cool I know it would reach the youth here's a quiet, but here's the thing. I have here's the here's a thought alright MTV created Way back when uh-huh the people who MTV was ostensibly created to corrupt They're in their 50s and 60s now. Their brother Nathaniel's age group.

Yeah. So is he run? Has he not wrestled with the fact that perhaps he watched one MTV? He watched the crime. One time. Yeah. You know, and that's all it takes. I was in dare. It only takes one time. Sure. Yeah. Sure. What else 120 minutes? You watch that? Fucked him up. I don't know, some Michelle Gondry music videos made at that Foo Fighters Averlong one. Yeah, that'll screw you up.

That'll screw you up. The hand. Can't talk with a better example than the grind, because that's so fucked up that that was a show. I'll be honest, I don't get into the, you know, bashing of MTV as destroying a generation of any of that nonsense But it is weird that the grind existed because that was just a show where you were watching people in bikinis dance Yeah, that was it. Yeah

There was nothing else to that show as I recall that just half naked people Well music played and they're dancing at like some resorts on spring break. What I find fascinating about that is that it is like the weirdo perverts version of being high at 3am and just watching like Diagrams move on the screen, you know, it is it is and it's not it's just like it wasn't even like a thing where it's like We're gonna teach you a dance. No, it wasn't a thing where it's like, we're gonna teach you a dance. It wasn't a thing where it's like, this is a good cardiovascular exercise. Nope. It can be some good, burn some calories.

It was just people grinding on each other. And it wasn't even, and it wasn't even like bringing something that wouldn't be where you are. You know, like, like, soul train. Soul train sent so much into the homes of people who could not experience it. You know what I'm saying?

Well, debatably like, I understand you can't get a beach full of right. Yeah, but you could watch a movie that Elvis was in and I don't think the grind was only on During spring break, but that's the one that sticks out in your memory. Yeah, that is true. Yeah It's always spring break somewhere. That's the rule of the ground. You know where it's never spring break? Bible with brother. So anyway, I agree. You may be surprised to learn that the Jews canceled Bible with brother. I decided I'm gonna just do Bible with brother on YouTube. I'm not gonna do any politics, but I want to be really cool and I want to reach the youth. I wasn't interested in reaching to the choir Okay, now what happens? I get three thousand and four thousand comments for kids

You don't think the kids don't know who's going to comment section. They have a profile and everybody going on YouTube Okay, everybody I'm saying After I get a million views per her month, check me down. Done. For what? I thought this must be an algorithm because I'm using biblical language. Maybe they thought I was political language. They would not tell me. Now they got some Hindu that take place of washitski. Okay. Washitsky still runs it. They put some browns get Hindu on like Robbie Shankar and Google. I know who owns it. Whoa. It wasn't Larry Rabin Awit.

Who changed his name to Brynn. And it wasn't a surrogate Rabin Awit. So it wasn't Larry Paige. There were two boys at Stanford. And someone from the Masad who is connected with the CIA because they are interlinked started juggled with those two boys but they didn't need him anymore. They got rid of them. So I know who got rid of them brother. It wasn't a Hindu. Okay, the browns kid dude, the window dressing. I knew who it was. It was Susan Waschitsky and the tribe. The synagogue of Satan the collective. Oh my god All right, it's all exhaust that's no that's not the response

Nothing the response to that you did this This is exhausting wow Do your job then man? I do agree it is exhausted. Yeah, no shit Yeah, I agree it there's only one person to blame for that and it's not brother Nathaniel It really isn't it really isn't he's doing exactly what you would do in this situation if you're a big it You're about your bigotry on this large platform that you're being afforded. Yeah, Alex is to blame for this shit and brother Brother has the feel of somebody who cannot stop themselves. Yes. Yeah. Yeah That's why he did Bible with brother.

Yeah. Yeah. So Alex, undeterred by all of this. How? Decides, hey man, you seem like in a stoop mind. Nope. I disagree. Tell me about your prediction for the election.

Turns out Vivek not going to win. I didn't think so. How do you see this election going? He said, brother, your chance going to be a rough year or 10 months out. You see like a, a, a, a, heavy guy. What do you think's going to happen? Heady. Well, it'll be rigged. Is he the rig at the ballot box? Or it's going to be rigged at the White House. So either way, it's going to be rigged. Okay. Now, by Vex got some great things. He's never going to get in. We know that. I don't know how I could let some Hindu in.

Okay. That's not going to happen. Okay. Really? So whoever gets in, they may allow Trump to get in. They may allow that. Okay. But you see, with Trump, it's not that the Jews hate Trump. They don't fear his followers. They see with them that that book. Okay. You say now, yeah, this is nationalism.

Okay. The meme nationalism, the where there's nationalism, the Jews sinks down. Okay. So it's not Trump that the Jews hate and trying to destroy. They despise the fear. His followers, because those are the white Christians, the patriots who in a drop of a dime can turn against Israel and say, hey, why there are so many Jews running everything? Why are the Jews able to put this money on the thin air?

Why are the Jews pushing a woke? Why is the media pushing transgenderism and homosexuality? Why are the Jews putting all these lesbians in charge of the mayor's jail? Jews are in the fear of the Great Awakening. That's the reason we have all the time. That's the reason people, they fear the people of the Great Awakening. I don't go into abstracts. Jews don't go into abstracts. Choose someone to abstracts. Oh boy

I So I don't know what Alex could have expected other than that when he asked for your prediction for the election is I mean, I guess he probably was maybe thinking of like what's your with the candidate? You think is gonna do well. Maybe you want to talk about Nikki Haley. That's fun. I mean fun on her. Yeah No, no, no. See, that's, that is the thing though. For me, that is, that is the, the line that I always feel like. If you're, if you're going to say that, you have to back it up.

If you say confidently, the election is rigged, and it's going to be rigged, your only next sentence is, we have to overthrow the United States government. You cannot tell me anything else otherwise, fuck you. Otherwise, fuck you, I don't care. No, the flip side of it could be nihilism. No, that's what I'm saying. No, but you don't have to encourage overthrowing

the government. You could just be like, nothing matters. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You have effectively brought us to a binary, you know, like, I'm an exagerate about politics. And you believe that every single election will be rigged. Yeah, then either don't care or overthrow the United States government. Yeah, I'm just saying that's another side.

Yeah, yeah, but that's what that is. But I mean, that is my point, you know, like any other response you have, you have brought it to the binary. You've brought it to the line that cannot be crossed. But here's the problem. This guy, I think, is saying over through the US government, but by virtue of hating Jews. Sure. So I think that he is passing your test just in the wrong way.

I suppose yes, that because he believes that, well, yeah, I guess you're right. You know, if his prescription for, yeah, I guess you're right. You know, if his prescription for like, sure, making sure we don't have rigged elections is disallowing Jewish people from having any position of power or expiling them from the country, then, you know, he has taken a perverted version of what you're saying. I suppose you're right.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. Yeah, I suppose you're right. Yeah. Alex, on the other hand, is he fails your test? Yes. Yeah. Fascinating. So speaking of failing, Alex fails in any sense, because he likes this guy. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah.

He likes this guy. He's been watching him for 15 years. Over a decade. I've sat here and nominated some of the most prominent names of Sesson Jews all day. Oh God, don't. And you've not done this. So I think you're being

fair, but they always describe that I'm controlled by Jews. That's not I'm controlled by me. Check out his website, Alex. Okay, I'm in charge of all

this. I really believe in what I'm doing. I'm trying to create unity around ideas that transcend all this. And you became a Christian and you, you know, and I believe you're right about, you know, Christ is obviously the Messiah,

you can feel it, you can see it, it's incredible. Any demonic attacks, Christ's name is all powerful. It's real. People know that aren't even Christian, get a tax spiritually. They ask for God's protection. It happens. But again, it's baby out with the bathwater. Why don't we have an outreach to everybody, the Hindus, the Jews, the Muslims, everybody? Because I pull back here and I see the left, the universities, Google, the CIA backing Islam right now. And I see this weird right-wing anti-Jeweliance with Islam attacking Israel. And you say, you know, what if Israel went away today?

That's a tiny little country. What would that do? I see it as a cop out. I think the hearts of men are desperately wicked as the Bible says. And I don't think Jews have a monopoly. And I don't think they're immune from it either. But I really don't prescribe,

and describe mythical powers. I think you're an interesting guy. You're... You're writing mythical powers. I think you're an interesting guy. You're not a great man. You're very likable. I mean, like Larry David super funny likable. I mean, I'll be to point blank. I think Jews are pretty funny, likable people. He's on a picture of Jesus Christ. That's despicable. Now, there's no such thing as a good Jew. It's oxymoron because if you identify the you identify the Christ Crucifiers so yeah Alex likes is he's very likable likable sky hates

Jewish people he uses the caseler a bit on his website which is definitely a sign that he's you know invested in his mind a conversation about Israel and power and you know Zionism as it exists. Yeah Politically as opposed to just being a fucking bigot. Yeah But that's what he is and Alex is Alex understands that but is refusing to act as if that is the case Yeah Yeah, this is reminiscent of like Doctors panels in the 50s

Where it's like we've got 13 white men to determine how to deal with black women's health issues. And you're like, well, surprise, not well. Mm-hmm. So, but Alex, I just don't understand his insistence in pretending that this conversation has anything to do with Israel. I mean, say like, if Israel disappears tomorrow,

you know, like, oh, like, that is nothing to do with this. There's, this is, this is out now Nazi, is it? This is literal Nazi, there's no other way to describe a thing that is Naziism more than it's Naziism. Now it's funny you should bring that up. We think you're about to say that this is not Naziism? Well, Alex decides, hey, why not ask him?

Why not ask him? And, uh, great. I bet this is gonna be a good answer? Oh sure it is. Yep. What do you think of that off Hitler? Because I think that off Hitler made the red card. Power man, you can look at it.

He glowed with satanic energy. I mean, you can just look at him. He's powerful, but you're like, whoa, that's evil. I mean, he exudes satanic energy. Are you saying you have you have a sermon? You look at a speech of Hitler. You look at his eyes and you're telling me that's

not count Dracula. Take a look at his pictures with children. Oh my God. That's what I do. I look at body language. I study body language. I was a strict commission salesman for 25 years. I know body language. The children love eight of his. Now I just oh yeah. There's body language. The children love a dog hit.

Now I just oh yeah, it says a lot. I don't see any evil. They just see an evil. You know who can pick up evil children like that. Children love me. Okay, they just look at me. Other people, huh, the children, they want to come up to me. They want to hug me. They want to talk to me. Whatever. Okay, but I'm very careful. I don't touch children. Okay. So you say at all that learn was good. What is brother? I'm very careful, I don't touch children, okay? So, you say at all Hitler was good. Okay, what is brotherhood saying? I'm not saying anyone is perfectly good. I would never say that because we're human beings, okay?

We all have shades of everything. Now, Hitler's main concern. But he was anti-Christian. Hitler was anti-Christian, he was a pagan. Okay, I'm not even gonna go there. I'm gonna go with what he wanted to do for Germany, like other people want to do for their own nations. He wanted to do something for Germany. He saw that the Jew who controlled the press, who controlled the arts,

who controlled the theater, who controlled politics, the Bimar regime, okay, and who controlled the stock market, okay? This guy seems very likable. who control the stock market, okay? This guy seems very likable. Weird, I mean, I think of a proportion or incidents of guests who have very positive Hitler feelings seems high for Alex. Yeah.

It seems like it's increasing quite a bit. It's notable. Something that I find interesting about how we as a society deal with all this stuff. Not we, how I watch society from my weird window and wonder if any of it's real, because it's insane. But only crazy people are honest about the logical inclusion of their beliefs. That's kind of our society, right?

Like everybody agrees only crazy people would be honest about what they believe because you would be crazy to say that sure, as a vicious and horrible anti-Semite, I hate and wish for the extermination of Jews, but it would be ridiculous to say that I love Hitler. That would be crazy. So despite the fact that Alex is like, well, I agree with all the things that you have said.

And you're very likable and you have discernment, you seem very head-y. To say that you love Hitler is crazy, sir. It seems like it's not disqualifying around info wars. You think it's it's At least the third guest of note in a short period of time I don't know if Alex was expecting that answer, but I can't imagine why he wouldn't have Because in society it's crazy to say the honest truth. Mm-hmm Well, but I mean, you know, once bitten twice shy,

as they say, and he's been twice bitten, third time should be shy. Of all the things that we documented extensively over this thousand episodes, I think Alex's inability to learn is perhaps one of the most consistent. He doesn't realize there's a fourth way. That's the only way to learn.

It's not race memory. It's the one where if somebody does something you go, well, we won't do that again. Yeah, fires hot. Yep. Yep. So anyway, now that Nate has given his kudos to Hitler, yeah, Alex decides now it's time to give a friendly goodbye to the interview. Great. Yep. On the, Captain Er, come back on. Ah! I'm going to be back on because we can have a talk next time. And maybe I'll be a little calmer. Okay? Is my first shot here with you?

Ha ha. Don't worry, I'm always wound up too. But the ADL says why people are inherently evil. So they've opened all this up. So I think we should hear from everybody. And so that's where I'm at. I mean, I agree with you. The ADL's period will open this up.

It looks like nice for Rato. Let listen, I appreciate the debate and the discussion. I don't agree with a lot of what you have to say, but I think it's open for discussion. I want to thank you for coming on and having a debate. We'll be right back with Kate Dalek's take with us. Wasn't a debate. Yeah, it's so, I mean, he's friendly, biting them back on. I don't think that, like, he was wound up or anything. Yeah. That's not the criticism I would have of this. No, no, no, no, no, no.

But yeah, you pinpointed exactly the issue. And this is basically what he said when Yeh was on too, which is he has this perception that the ADL thinks all white people are inherently evil, and that justifies him having friends and promoting outright Nazis. Yep. So that is the purest sort of boil down of why Alex is doing this. Yep.

He's trying to platform and mainstream and run cover for or at least make look better these Nazi figures. Yep. As an attack on the ADL, because he thinks that it's justified because of his own white identity, a self-agreement. Right, right.

Which is, you know, never, never said it often enough, you know. As a narcissist, it's always got to be personal, too. Sure. Yeah. It's like, okay. The ADL doesn't like me. So obviously I'm a Nazi. I'm just gonna go ahead and go over that far.

They were mean to me personally. I mean, it's just, it's just, I don't know how to describe it other than like, this is just may as well be a Nazi-ass show now. It is, yeah. Yeah. This flies and then anything. That is Nazi's attention, that's Nazis.

Yeah. And like I said, whoops, all Nazis. And like I said, I don't think that it's just a situation where you can never talk to this guy. Sure. But the context of talking to this guy is it requires a gentle touch. It requires a not this. Yeah.

This is not a debate. It is not a exchange of ideas. It is platforming and like endorsing not to your audience. Yeah, I still maintain this. Debates are incredibly stupid. Yes, but the main reason they're stupid is not because of all the waste of everybody's time. It's because if you are going into any conversation,

there should be the possibility of you learning information. And in no debate will anybody learn information? Usually not. Yeah, I mean, especially not the way that they've turned into performance. Yes, that's right. That's right. Any entertainment based debate, you know, that's what we're dealing with. You know, it's like, it doesn't matter how much you push back on brother Nathaniel.

No. He came in to say that he hates Jews and at the end of it, he's gonna leave saying he hates Jews in all the exact same ways. Yeah, yeah. And there's going to be a non-zero number of your audience who are gonna be like, fuck yeah, this guy. Yep. And they're gonna be drawn to him

and they're going to watch his horrific state of the art videos on his website. Yeah. And that is on you. That is your fault. Yeah. There's is on you. That is your fault. Yeah. There's no. There's not there's not going to be like people who watch this interview in Alex's audience to come away with better opinions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and then I think this is something that is always socially true. That is like hard for us to really kind of wrestle with.

But if at the end of one of these entertainment based debates, nobody really kind of wrestle with. But if at the end of one of these entertainment-based debates, nobody changes anything. And you just say, I still believe everything that I exactly believe. It doesn't even matter what you have said. People will just go, by your conviction, I will follow you. That is the way that we work as animals. So it's almost, yeah, it's dangerous to have a debater

attainment. Yeah, I think it may, I haven't fully thought about this. So I'm willing to be talked off this position. Sure. But I think it may cause a net negative. Yeah, I think it might be more harm than good. That structure of entertainment. Yeah. But whatever the case, this did more harm than good, that structure of entertainment.

But whatever the case, this did more harm than good. And Alex walks away from it, I'm sure, thinking like, I did a pretty good job there. Oh my God. He probably doesn't even realize like the toxic bullshit that was this show. You know, you had the disgusting presentation of this deep dive on Epstein, and then this guest, who there's no excuse for doing this show. You know, you had the disgusting presentation of this deep dive on Epstein. And then this guest, who there's no excuse for doing this interview. Yeah. There's no

excuse for it. And there's no further no excuse for giving up on really trying to guide the conversation. Yeah. Um, I mean, just every, every, yeah, do it. Of all the things Alex should have used his one true power shouting down this person. You can see the way that Nathaniel kept talking whenever Alex tried to interrupt him. And Alex wouldn't, Alex wouldn't use the volume power. If that tool doesn't work. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe he's weak. Ah, so weak.

Yeah. Anyway, fuck this episode. Yeah. But I'd start to the year this this is one of like that's why the qualifier Earlier just like this is what I see through my little window into the world Who knows if it's like this does this does have the feel of like wait? I'm being true man showed right. There's no way that this is actually real. I've bad news bad news Don't regret it. Please still dad. This is real and this is real anyway. I've bad news. Bad news. Don't regret it. Pretty still dead.

And this is real. And this is real. Anyway, we'll be back for another episode. But until then, we have websites. Indeed we do. It's not all right. Come. Yep, we're all on somewhere.

Somewhere at somewhere. Yep. Back. Went to tell them. I'm Neo. I'm Neo. I'm DZX Clark. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can only bleed. The only noise that I can make. That's truly how I feel. Yeah, woo, yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

So, Alex, I'm the first time coloring my huge fan. I love your work. I love you. So Alex, I'm a first time coloring my huge fan. I love your work. I love you.