Knowledge Fight - #893: January 25, 2024

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex responded to the breaking situation at the US-Mexico border, where multiple states' governors were siding with Texas against the federal go...vernment.  Plus, Alex discusses how his ancestors were psychics, but not like those phony kinds of psychics.

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Starting point is 00:01:08 Yep, Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is, thank you very much, to Zip, kind of listener. Tristan sent a little plush. There it is. It's Kevin the bird.
Starting point is 00:01:19 It's Kevin the bird. Getting my Kevin the bird collection together. I think we'll have a whole, whole mess of Kevin the bird stuff my Kevin the bird collection together. I think we'll have a whole whole mess of Kevin the bird stuff from up. But also there's sort of a question of a bright spot. Sure. I'm thinking about this question. I'm thinking about this as a potential bright spot. Here's an entirely new genre. All right. Right spot potential bright spot. You like this like an Amazon wishlist thing. Are we are we cam girls? No, we're doing. No, it's not too much that it's it's a I'll I'll I'll take steps on this possibly. Sure. Okay, depends on feedback from you. Be specifically and some spitball
Starting point is 00:01:54 in here a little right. I like it. You like those like a dragon games right. I swear to you that is my bright spot. Okay, yeah, Because my potential bright spot was I heard that new one was out. I thought it looked nuts. It is nuts. Okay. It's fucking nuts. It's like, it is such a great form of taking the banal, then washing it into fantasy and then washing it back into the banal, which is such a fascinating extra thing
Starting point is 00:02:23 to do. You know, you could just take a regular story and then push elevated into a fantasy world. But it is so much that they're like, okay, all right, yes, you've got magic powers, but fuck it, we're going right back to work. You go to the office, okay? That's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, I saw something about it that was like one of the main like sidelines of it, quest lines is you have to run a resort island I'm like I'm in yep. Yep. That sounds fun There are an infinite number of minigames that have nothing to do with anything Yeah, you can play they can sing karaoke and it's an entire like guitar hero thing Mm-hmm You can there's a dating sim that you can go on and you can like text people back And there's no relevance to anything.
Starting point is 00:03:05 None. Great. Absurd. And it's infinite. It love it. Well, it's infinite wealth. Exactly. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I've thought about that. And so I guess it's fun that your bright spot was that. Yeah. And that it wraps into this, that maybe I'll give it a try then. I was reluctant to. Yeah. Because I'm trying to generally, like I splurged on Prince of Persia. Yeah. Because I'm trying to generally like I splurged on Prince of Persia. Sure. But I'm trying to generally play the games that are free on the PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, I get you stuff. I got to want to waste a lot of money. I'm with you. So I was playing that. I can't even remember what the fuck it was. It's not a good time. Yeah. No, it's not. Yeah. That sounded so crazy. Sounded.ed I'm gonna do I might I might pull the trigger. It's one of though. It's one of the things where Being Genuinely funny laugh out loud funny Through a video game is fucking impossible, right? You know and there are so many good moments in this that actually pull it off. And it requires so much work. There's one thing about the dating sim thing that they do, or like it's a dating app thing or
Starting point is 00:04:11 whatever it is. But there is one thing that they do that I won't spoil for you, but it is truly one of the great bits that I've ever seen anybody execute in a video game, and I would never have seen it coming. I'm guessing you get catfished? You do, it coming. I'm guessing you get catfished. Uh, you do, but it's a you. You obviously get catfished. Yes, that's the that's the essence of the of the bit. Sure. How they pull it off in a video game is completely different. Awesome. It is. It is so good.
Starting point is 00:04:36 All right. All right. Well, you're talking to me. You're talking me towards it. So the potential bright spot may be coming in the future for me, but it's today for you today for me All right, Jordan today. We have an episode to go over. We're gonna be talking about the 25th That's last Thursday right when we were recording. We're gonna secede from the union baby That is the promise of the premise and we will see if we get there Throughout the course of this episode. Okay, but before we find out anything, yes, take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, thanks to Jordan, Scavenger Rain rearranged my brain. Thank you so much. You're now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank
Starting point is 00:05:11 you very much. Thank you. Next, Holly, a.k.a. This podcast is my guilty pleasure and drives normal people nuts. So there's that. Thank you so much. You're now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Dr. M, your husband loves you and worries about how much of Alex's voice you've consumed. It can't be healthy. Thank you very much. Thank you next doctor M Your husband loves you and worries about how much of Alex's voice you've consumed. It can't be healthy Thank you so much. You're now policy won't I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. I mean the prison's a doctor I assume they know I like the idea that that's a supervillains like no doctor M Doctor M. You're listening to too much of that podcast next sovereign citizen in the courts of heaven. Thank you so much You're now policy won't I'm courts of heaven. Thank you so much. You're an out policy. I'm a policy. One. Thank you very much. This raises an interesting question.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Do the courts of heaven operate on maritime law? Oh my God. What if they do what if what happens if somebody is just like I do not recognize your authority? God, does everybody stop? Nobody's ever thought of this before. We're in non charted territory. Exactly. Next. I don't know about you guys, but this show drastically improved my quality of life. Thank you so much. You're now policy. I'm a policy. One. Thank you very much. Impossible. Also, it's at IDK. Not. I don't know. I translate that mob. Very, very, very kind. No, they, they specifically said the email that was like, everybody always says that this, this podcast hurts your brain. I thought it made me feel better. Well, that's very sweet. Yes. It was very sweet. We got a technical credit
Starting point is 00:06:23 to make Jordan. So thank you so much to second annual knowledge, right? Fantasy Football League champion heroless bachelor squatches. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone someone Sotomayor sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. There's a heroless bachelor's swatches. They're from sports.
Starting point is 00:06:55 They are from sports. That's well, I mean, I don't know. Are they allowed in sports now? Well, I mean, just be there from fantasy. Are there. Accounts. Are they allowed in sports now? Well, I mean, just be, they're from fantasy sports. Are there? Accounts. Do you think there's, at one point, somebody was like,
Starting point is 00:07:08 well, there's no rule that says Sasquatches can't play basketball? I'm certain this has happened many times. It has to be. Whether it's in the collegiate level, whether it's in the municipal. 15 Wolf era level, or yeah. Whether it's in the parks and recreation department. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Games. There is no rule. What's the term for that? What am I thinking of? Local sports. Yeah, something like that. But there's a term. Right. League. Yeah, that might be it. I don't think it is, but there's another word. All right. We're going to spend all day figuring this out because what are we going to succeed from the year? We're going to succeed from the podcast. Figure out what intramural intramural. That's great. Yeah. That was the word I was looking for that. So Jordan, we find ourselves in the precarious situation where there's the appearance of a standoff between the federal government and the state of Texas, right, taking place
Starting point is 00:07:56 at the U S Mexico border and a spot called Eagle Pass. And it was particularly coming into sharp focus on this Thursday when we were recording our last episode Right, right Alex is recording this episode, right? So obviously the issue of immigration and handling migrants arriving in the country is a long-standing source of political tension And it would be impossible to put a beginning date on that whole thing But we can start our discussion here and for the relevance of this discussion here and for the relevance of this conversation with the beginning of Operation Loan Star. Texas launched Operation Loan Star in March 2021.
Starting point is 00:08:31 This was essentially a military involved action involving the Texas National Guard and other state groups targeted at turning back immigrants and presumably stopping drugs from being smuggled into the United States. Initially, though, they used tactics that were pretty extreme, like the now very relevant use of razor wire. The public was generally in support of the operation, despite that. However, as time went on, the tide has turned
Starting point is 00:08:55 against these tactics, and it's becoming a little much for folks to idly sit by and just watch. At least 74 migrants have been killed due to vehicle chases that were not strictly necessary, given the circumstances through this operation. Lone Star. Sure. And then you have the horrific images that folks are forced forced to confront. Like, there's a story that a man relayed to the Texas Tribune about seeing a pregnant woman bloodied stuck trying to
Starting point is 00:09:20 climb through razor wire. These are awful things to see. And it is a part of the implications of the things that are being done through Operation Lone Star. Right. The in humanity that Operation Lone Star entails is pretty severe. And naturally, folks who take the issues surrounding immigration more seriously and think that migrants or people have had some problems with it. One big part of the operations activities in Eagle Pass is the erecting of a bunch of this razor wire.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Now, there's also a federal border patrol facility in Eagle Pass, and they felt that they should have access to the actual border, which had been blocked off by miles of razor wire. Hmm. This went through the courts, and, you know, the federal agents, they wanted to cut through the wire, and the states wanted an injunction to stop them from doing that. The state appeals court in Texas, they ruled that the feds could not cut through the razor wire, which then got sent to the Supreme Court. The court ruled 5-4 that the federal agents could in fact cut through the wire, which is super shocking, since this is the current Supreme Court that we're talking about,
Starting point is 00:10:20 like Chief Justice John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett side with the decided with the liberal trio, which is nuts. I can't even know. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Remember, okay? They won already. The federal government needs to have power because they are going to control it. That is an interesting twist. Don't forget. Don't forget the case that I will have it next year, but I would have assumed in that case if that is the conspiracy that's going on What? We got a second spears. He's just the political reality I would assume that some like Clarence Thomas and Kevin also would have joined the strength to the federal government side Um, I mean well, they're not particularly owned by the same people, I would say.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You know? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know exactly, but I get what you're saying that is like, oh, they're going to seize the federal government, so don't erode the power of it. No, I mean, it's not like they're seizing the government. Trump will be elected. If you have a federal government that Trump is elected to, you don't want to make it an
Starting point is 00:11:20 out and out terrorism-based fascistist government so you have the trappings of the similar thing so you keep the federal garden of power. It makes sense. I get the broad strokes of what you're saying but I'm not entirely sure that I agree that was why they were thinking that. Oh fair enough. Or they either made that decision. Fair enough. That might be the feeling and the vibe of things but you know there probably were other
Starting point is 00:11:42 decisions that or other pieces that came into the decision could be, but even so it is still bizarre that like you would have thought for sure. I would have thought for sure that it would have been they would have been like, we're just going to keep our hands off this one. No, I mean, I've read actually a lot about the Supreme Court for some reason. I know actually it was whenever I was thinking about doing an episode on an interview with Clarence Thomas and his wife. His wife interviewed Clarence Thomas. Oh, I thought you were going to actually get an interview with them. No, no, no, no. That'd be huge. Ginny Thomas interviewed Clarence Thomas and it is one of the more insane things I've ever listened to. I'm certain. But yeah. So, uh, John Roberts, that makes perfect sense
Starting point is 00:12:21 for him. That's his whole, his whole thing. Sure. Neil Gorsuch. That's his whole thing too. He's straight up one of those guys. Like he's weirdly for protecting negative American shit. Like he's he's just one of those guys. Well, but then you would have expected him to join with this too. And he didn't. He was on the the dissenting side. Yeah, that's true. It's weird guys. It's confusing. Yeah, it's a Yeah. So anyway, with that ruling, the federal agents were able to cut through the wire, which they did. And in response, the Texas National Guard put up more wire, which presumably the Supreme Court who are supposed to be the highest court in the land. Sure. It's not necessarily against the decision to put up the wire, but it's a direct breach to not allow the federal agents to cut it down, which they've said they're not going to allow the federal agents to do. Okay. So they're essentially in violation of the Supreme Court and not at the same time. Right. Schrodinger's opposition and defiance to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:13:25 OK. So theoretically, we could shut down this entire country because they, you know, like, listen, they got to sleep sooner or later. So now they got to hire people to run watches 24 hours a day. I do think that the military and national guards are particularly good at shifts. And they should do what? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. So now we've got now we've got tons and tons of people
Starting point is 00:13:49 in here making a brand new economy out of just looking at each other around some wire. I think that's possibly the most productive thing those groups of people have done in years. You got a lot of pop ups of like street meat. You're gonna have to feed people. There's gonna be a nice little Ferris wheel. People come watch you guys stare at wire together because we're all stupid apes. Not because you're never. So this is where things have landed in terms of this particular situation. Yeah, the feds have a Supreme Court decision that allows them to cut through the
Starting point is 00:14:20 wire, but the Texas Guard has made it clear that they're just gonna keep on putting up more wire and not allow them to cut through it. As Texas made this clear, various states with Republican governors started making announcements about their support for Texas's actions. In essence, Texas was thumbing their nose at the federal government and these states were saying, we've got your back. At last count, 25 states have signed on to supporting Texas with Vermont being the only state in the country with a Republican governor to not.
Starting point is 00:14:47 That's the only state. All of them except that. What a bunch of fucking idiots. Trump has gotten into the mix to encouraging governors to send troops to Texas. Absolutely, send troops to Texas. And to make matters worse, there's a big trucker convoy that's been promoted around right-wing social media
Starting point is 00:15:04 and on their programs, which is heading to Eagle Pass, as well as spots in Yuma, Arizona and San Luis Ducidro, California. They're trying to recruit veterans, active military, and all sorts of other folks to join and carry out their duty as what they describe as God's Army to secure the border. It's a recipe for for trouble and the convoy is arriving at Eagle Pass on February 3rd Which is this coming Saturday? This could go any number of ways and I'm reluctant to make any prediction But the pieces are all there for something bad the talk of Civil War Starting certainly seems overblown, but at the same time I don't want to downplay what's happening here
Starting point is 00:15:40 Sure, there's a situation unlike any I've I think I've seen I don't know you can correct me if I'm wrong but I there's not a lot of things I can compare it to. In our lifetime? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. As my human life. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, so we're the situation where the leaders of half of the states are essentially saying that the Supreme Court doesn't mean anything to them. They're just gonna do whatever they want. That's pretty fucked up. Sure. Well it doesn't necessarily mean that we're heading towards a session or a civil war. It's hard to see how this doesn't mean anything to them, they're just gonna do whatever they want, that's pretty fucked up. Sure. Well, it doesn't necessarily mean that we're heading towards a session or a civil war, it's hard to see how this doesn't get worse in the context of a 2024 presidential election
Starting point is 00:16:13 where Trump is trying to make immigration one of his main issues. Right. This is all a mess. Right. I think what I find so fascinating about this, what I find so incredibly fascinating about this is that I find so incredibly fascinating about this is that I 100% agree with the 25 states. The Supreme Court is a joke.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It's absolutely ridiculous. What boggles my mind is why they agree with me on that. That seems fucking crazy. It's their Supreme Court! You agree that it is silly that we have nine people in robes who It's illegitimate. There's there's what there's two that shouldn't be on there, right? There's a stolen one Like it doesn't matter what they believe their very function is non-existent time out we know one is owned Specifically by a billion time. I guess why there's like a need for specificity. You have a problem with the Supreme Court because of
Starting point is 00:17:09 circumstances. They have a problem with the Supreme Court because they hate the federal government. You know what I mean? Like if those seats weren't stolen, and if someone wasn't bought and there was integrity in the court, and what have you, would you still have a problem with it?
Starting point is 00:17:26 The Supreme Court? Yeah. Um, that depends, no. Yeah. I would. Okay, well then it doesn't matter if they're bought. Yeah, it doesn't matter. So why are you complaining about it?
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. Okay, so what? It's a dumb system. Get your ass down to Texas, babe. Nah, I'm good. Okay. It requires, they're gonna shoot each other over wire, get the fuck out of here There's not even a real line there. Well, I think I think that what it what your issue comes down to is why do you care?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah, and you know on issues that you do care about Let's say access to reproductive health care Sure if the Supreme Court were to rule that you're not allowed to have reproductive health care Yeah, you that means as much to me is right should. You can cut down wire out of they mean nothing to me. Right. Yeah. So it really comes down to the reason behind this action is flawed. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean I feel as though if I was standing outside an abortion clinic with the Illinois State Supreme National Guard against the fucking federal troops. That makes as much sense as what they're doing, except mines real
Starting point is 00:18:29 and would save lives and they're still trying to kill more people. They're murdering people and I'm trying to not murder people. You from from like an idealistic like cause kind of standpoint. You're there and that's good. From a on the ground, Like what is happening here situation. I think that it is probably more of a problem that half of the states are supporting a state. Sure. Defying the specific one to. Yeah. That's a huge issue. It is true. Yeah. So we'll see how things go in Alex
Starting point is 00:19:05 Land discussing this. Yeah, let's see. It's um, I don't know. Not good. Here's where we start. Okay. info wars.com first wrote articles in 2004 about replacement migration. Look it up. They're on the site. We are the first to break it anywhere. And that's kind of shameful because it was in UN documents in 2000, 2001. Well now the crisis has come to a head. Fourteen states have joined with Texas in defiance of the hijacked criminal federal
Starting point is 00:19:42 government. And many of the states are sending their state guard under the state governor's command to aid Texas. So just a small point, Alex was absolutely not the first to report on the concept of replacement migration. You can find articles about the topic in outlets like the New York Times, CNN, BBC, The Guardian, United Press International,
Starting point is 00:20:03 and the Christian Science Monitor from 2002 and prior. It was a hot topic also, let's not fuck around, in white supremacist and Nazi circles. Yeah, I prior. Pat Buchanan made a career out of saying those words. Yeah. The UN report that Alex is talking about isn't a plan. It's an analysis of mortality and birth data around the world that assesses what level of migration would be necessary to maintain a full working population depended on different directions that numbers could go. For instance, in the case of the United States, there are five possible scenarios that they paint, each with different assumptions about how trends would proceed.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Each has vastly different numbers of immigrants that would be required to keep the full workforce. One is 760,000 per year, one is 319,000 per year, and one is zero. The highest estimate is the fifth one, which is 10 million per year, which is the one Alex pretends, is the UN plan. Yeah, that's a lot. It is. That would be a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It's more than happens. Yep, yep. This is about maintaining the needed support balance between the working age population and the elderly that have retired. They're essentially assessing the level of support given different levels of migration. That's the underlying thing of this report. They found that existing rates of immigration were more than enough to keep the working population at a healthy ratio and that if there were
Starting point is 00:21:17 no immigration, it would be necessary to raise the retirement age to 74. The only important thing for Alex is that this is a question of immigration. That's the only part of this that even cares about. Because he's a vicious xenophobe. But the paper itself is actually more about the question of supporting an aging population in industrialized countries. Immigration is one aspect of it, but retirement age, increasing labor force participation, and reorganizing retirement benefit paradigms.
Starting point is 00:21:45 That's all part of that too. Sure. Alex does what he always does with this document. He takes something that involves a dense analysis, then oversimplifies it, and then pretends that his oversimplification is actually secretly the globalist's plans and that they're admitting to it in this document. It's a game that's very tired. And I cannot, I cannot, I cannot pretend to care.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Not fun. No, no. Alex's number about the state governors in that clip was a bit off, but it's probably maybe accurate at the time that this was being recorded. Sure. It was a situation that moved really fast on that Thursday. So it very well might have been the case that the number was 14 when he started the show and by the end of it it was 25. Oh, that's fast. Yeah. As a brush fire of governors willing to start a fucking civil war.
Starting point is 00:22:30 This is the number of governors who've said that they stand with Texas in the dispute, but it's not the same as the number who have or would send their own national guard. I suspect that this 14 number is not actually representative of the current situation when Alex is on air here on January 25th, but actually the number of governors who had chipped in either with resources or manpower to governor Abbott's operation loan star, but that's something that they had done months. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's where he's getting the 14 number, but I'm not sure. Gotcha. It's unclear how many states will and have sent troops, but I'm fairly comfortable. The number won't be zero and it could be a bunch basically to sum it up this shit is a mess. I love the idea. First off, here's my favorite person in all of this. My favorite
Starting point is 00:23:12 person is the Montana National Guardsmen who's like, wait a second. You want me to do what? Right. For what? If you go, you're the fucking idiot. You're the idiot. Sorry. Fuck everybody else in this country for one moment It's just you Montana National Guardsmen. Don't be a fucking moron. Stay home. Quit Just suddenly stop Realize it's been millions of years of evolution that's led you to this point and you are a fucking ape There's no go get a coconut. We're all just living stupid lives. Just don't go fight over a fucking razor wire
Starting point is 00:23:51 a thousand miles away from you. Well, I don't... It's hard to argue with, I mean, I like coconut. Yeah, right? But you have to kind of take it seriously in some ways because, you know, the imposition of this razor wire is hurting and killing people. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So I guess I would say don't go and fight for it. If you're on the side of not letting people cut it down. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Um, I don't know. I'm saying this way. It's a mess. Well, that's the problem though. Is it what we're we got to stop talking about this as if it's real and start talking about these people want to murder immigrants. That's their goal. The end goal of Operation Lone Star is the murder of immigrants because if you murder them, then the next one will think murder. The next ones will think, well, gonna die if we're at the border. Exactly. Yeah, it is. It is a terrorism campaign. Yeah, it's terrorism. Yeah. Right. So you have to either be willing to terrorize the Texas National Guard to or you go well,
Starting point is 00:24:57 I guess you guys get to do whatever the fuck you want. Well, I mean the flip side honestly is I don't think you're going to terrorize the Texas National Guard, but there are illegal mechanisms wherein Biden could federalize the guard. And you can very easily imagine what the right wing response to that would be. Yeah. But I mean, again, that's, that's the idea is that out of, at a certain point, if you're willing to kill people, to keep killing people, then the only way to stop you is to kill you. We'll find out exactly. I mean, it is an unfortunate truth. So another unfortunate truth is that Alex gets on air and he just doesn't really have a handle on the situation
Starting point is 00:25:32 that he's talking about. The governor has said that he's going to ignore the lower court ruling, just like Democrats always do, even the Supreme Court itself. Because we have a right to self-defense that's in the Constitution in the Declaration of Independence. Remember a few days ago, that's exactly what I read on air, was the Declaration of Independence,
Starting point is 00:25:51 and that is what Abbott cites as well as the Constitution to the United States. So we have the latest list, more states are coming on board every few hours. Very exciting. In that 30-second clip, Alex makes two startlingly wrong statements. Yeah. Maybe just one. The first is that Governor Abbott is ignoring the lower court's decision.
Starting point is 00:26:12 This whole thing started because the state of Texas sued the federal government to get them to stop cutting down the razor wire that they were setting up back in October. This led to a Fifth Circuit Court ruling that the federal government was barred from cutting down the wire. After that, the Supreme Court overruled that injunction, thus allowing the federal agents to cut down the wire. The decision that Abbott is ignoring is the Supreme Court one. Not the lower court. Alex either doesn't know anything about the
Starting point is 00:26:36 story or he's lying because he has some narrative branding in place where the Democrats are the one who ignore the Supreme Court, whereas the right-wing Constitution lovers understand that they're the highest court in the land. Naturally, yes. You gotta respect those rulings. Well, there's only one court higher, and that is the Lord's Court. Yep, court's heaven.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You bet. Maritime law. Speaking of the Constitution, that brings me to the second wrong thing. Although this might just be an instance of Alex speaking kind of muddily. Sure. It sounds like he's saying that the Declaration
Starting point is 00:27:02 of Independence is in the Constitution. I did sound a little bit like he was saying that. He probably isn't saying that. I just think he wasn't clear. I mean, all I'm saying is that I don't think the Declaration of Independence is legally binding in 2024. No. And if Alex is really into the Constitution, he might not like it if Biden does end up using his constitutional power to federalize the Guard. I wouldn't do it. If they were in open disobedience of federal law in the Supreme Court, he has every right to do that. And then Alex is just going to call that tyranny. This is how Alex's distorted understanding of the Constitution lends itself to being used to justify whatever he wants, no matter what. Yeah. If the Supreme Court says what he wants, it's the highest court in
Starting point is 00:27:37 the land and no one can defy it. If they say something he doesn't like, it's all bullshit. And he pretends the ruling came from a lower court. If Governor Abbott uses the national guard to defy the federal government That's totally constitutional But if Biden were to federalize the guard due to rank insubordination that would be tyranny right there's no Circumstance where Alex's beliefs aren't in line with what he thinks the Constitution says because for him the Constitution is a prop It operates mostly on vibes. It's not it's not the thing that his beliefs are based on It's the thing that he uses to give weight to his beliefs. That's not real.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Right, right, right, right. When we think of the Constitution, we think of ourselves as a thing, and then we go outside, and then we look at the Constitution which was written by other human beings. When Alex thinks of the Constitution, he reaches inside of his heart,
Starting point is 00:28:24 and he pulls out what he believes to be true. And that's the Constitution. Well, I think also Alex believes himself and his ideology to be what the Constitution is based on. The spirit of it, yeah. So even if the Constitution doesn't say what he thinks. There are all those Democrats writing it at the time. His version is more true than what the Constitution actually says. The real patriots who were writing it then really wished they could have had this stuff in there. I am an avatar of the Constitution therefore I can never be opposed to it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:56 and Alexander Hamilton was the intellectual support for the Nazi party. And one of the best rappers of all time. Never been better. So Alex talks a little bit ends up with a very bizarre analogy about this situation Okay operation Lone Star bolsters historic lower security mission 2023 this is directly of course they named it after a beer the state of Texas and the governor's office No one gives me the total 14 states Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Idaho, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma For total 14 states, Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Idaho, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming have stepped up to support Texas efforts and deployed personnel and resources to secure the border in President Biden's absence.
Starting point is 00:29:42 That's right folks. You have, you know your next door neighbors and they got two or three little kids and those little kids are running out of the house all day and now it's night time and they're in the backyard crying. Wait. You go over and you say where are your parents? Wait what? You say, we don't know. And you say, well in the absence of your parents come on over here.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I don't like the story. With your parents you start calling around the the you know to the family you go and get in their notebook in the house normally that'd be breaking the house but you've got a clear and present emergency and you got the notebook phone numbers you start calling hey where are the Browns or where are the Johnson's or where are the Ramirez's and you say we don. Well, then you call the police. The border is not just wide open. What? The feds are down there catapulting the illegal aliens or its fuel injecting them, supercharging
Starting point is 00:30:34 them into the country. I don't understand. I don't understand at all. I think Alex broke into his neighbor's house. Is that the story? Maybe? That's such a specific specific of events. Yeah. So I could honestly maybe take that as an argument to allow immigrants in. I mean, I guess I guess to find where they're. I don't know. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:00 They're crying in the backyard. The backyard. Come on in. Yeah. We'll figure out where it is you need to go. Give me your tired. You're crying in the backyard. The backyard! Come on in! We'll figure out where it is you need to go. Give me your tired. You're crying in the backyard. We've got a place in Arizona. Check that out. It's too hot. Yeah, I don't fully understand. I'm sure there was a metaphor that was attempting to be made there, but... Didn't land. Yeah, instead it just sounded like a series of increasing and insane things
Starting point is 00:31:24 with a person like a confession. You know how you know like that you know like how when that happens to you you know like oh yeah you know whenever you're getting some ice cream and then you chase a dog down the street and then you fight a homeless man you know like how when that happens to you. Oh sure it's a totally normal. They regular stuff yeah. So um Alex doesn't want us to see it turns out.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Except he does. Okay. There's a lot of constitutional developments that are obviously coming out of this, but I've said, I don't want a secession. I don't want to civil war. I don't want to dissolve the country, but the left knows they're putting all of us in a position to where we have a hijacked federal government. We have to have the states pull out of the union and then have another convention and then reconstitute it again and have the states
Starting point is 00:32:05 basically impeach the IJAC federal government. And that's the definition of independence. It's not just our right, it's our duty. So there's a lot of ways to skin the cat or skin the rabbit, as they say. But we're going to be going over all of it here today. Got some big guests as well. Very exciting. Some big guests. Yeah. So yeah, he does want to succeed. Sure. You can pretend that there's some sort of high falutin. We're going to dissolve his reconstitute the federal right. Sure you are. That makes sense. But also I mean that would end up getting rid of that Constitution you love so much.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I would assume because you have to write a new Constitution. You're starting an entirely new state. Yeah, I mean, just before we go any further with this idea of dissolving and then reconstituting. Which is bullshit. Yeah. We're having a crisis over the border, quote-unquote, right now. Now imagine dissolving all the borders. Right. And then trying to reconstitute all of the borders. It creates more of them.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Boo! I imagine like you wouldn't end up with all of the states keeping their same borders. How don't they keep the same borders? I bet people in Texas might think we should get more than what we have. I mean, later in the episode, Alex is like, you know, Oklahoma's really just North Texas.
Starting point is 00:33:24 So yeah, I feel like maybe. Yeah yeah I feel like I see where this is going I feel like Manifest Destiny is restarting in Texas but weird Manifest Destiny but make it weird yeah yeah well I really think the people living here Manifest Destiny was already pretty weird well I think the other issue too just is quite frankly the You know you dissolve the country right now. It's his imagination I think you imagine so they were all just gonna come back together with this new new constitutional convention I don't want to be in your country anymore. Right. It's ridiculous the yeah the okay
Starting point is 00:34:00 We're gonna found our country on extreme right wing principles. Cool. Like you can't teach history of slavery. Right. And trans people are not allowed to exist. Sure. And people would not go along with that in a lot of states. Right. And then other people in states would be like, we want to create a country that's based on tolerance and an understanding of historical deficiencies in our judgment and behaviors.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And then I wouldn't fly for people like Alex That's my pitch. Here's my pitch. Yeah, all right. We call it we call the bluff and This is my compact with America. All right Texas can secede and they can have a little bit more of Texas, you know, whatever you want around the area Sort of like Putin taking a little bit of land here. Sure, sure, a little bit of Crimea. You can have that too, all right? But all right wing assholes have to live there.
Starting point is 00:34:53 That's the rule. There can be no border crossings if you're a right wing piece of shit. They respect borders. Yeah, you love that shit. Can't come back into the United States ever. It's over for you. You either get to be a piece of shit
Starting point is 00:35:06 and do your piece of shit stuff, or you get to live in the rest of society with the rest of us and enjoy stuff like phones. I mean, conceptually, you make an interesting offer. That's my pitch. I'm not sure how that would work. But then you also do legitimately have to... It's so much fun for people like Alex to talk about this shit.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah, no, it's way more fun. But like the reality of what would go into it, the economic implications of it are ridiculous. No, I mean, this is, but can't we, this is a fundamental like, you understand this is why the government cannot possibly work so long as people like this are allowed to vote themselves in. They want to talk about government. They don't want to do do actuarial shit. Right, they wanna do publicity stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, I wanna fight the, I got a gun in a raccoon. They wanna signal their virtues. Yeah. So this really, really depressed me because we have a return of something that I think we've all been missing and it's squandered. Oh. It's Thursday January 25th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I'm Alex Jones, your host. And the quickening is accelerating. Fourteen states have joined with Texas. Many are sending their guard forces. Biden is now openly threatening to nationalize the state guards and basically put the Republic into a form of martial law. Martial law.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Now the very same UN NGOs that ran the replacement migration last 15 years in Europe are running this one. Wait, they already finished? The Bull Wars was the first in 2004 to write detailed articles on replacement migration. The first human documents appeared in 2000, 2001. So again, I'm a little ashamed that, yeah, we were the first, but late. But now we're here, and we know the enemy blueprint. If you think a million people come in
Starting point is 00:37:32 every few months is bad, you've not seen anything yet. The giant UN camps are being expanded all over Northern South America, in to Central America. The Communist Chinese, along with the US government, are financing this treason. Okay, so what a waste if you belong to the city.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. Also in theory, isn't you belong to the city a message that Alex would not resonate with? I was thinking exactly that. Yeah. I do not belong to the city. You can hear me. I'm a free man. Yeah, I just kept thinking like there's such a longing for the city. Yeah. Alex is not long at the city. You can have a free man. Yeah, I just kept the like there's such a longing for the city
Starting point is 00:38:06 Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, it's not long for the city. Well, I think he does yeah fucking Austin, right? But he doesn't long for the which is exactly the secessionist point You know, oh, I love being a right wing as well. I also love living in Austin, which is run by people who aren't stupid Yeah, yeah, that's that's a dynamic Yeah, so also Alex says that there's a million people coming in every few months and that's a number He's just not it's not based in reality. That would be insane They're about a million migrants that arrive in the country come in Per year give or take sure his numbers are just wrong unless you're talking about that UN study from 2000,
Starting point is 00:38:46 you're taking that and just pretending it's the globalist plan, which they're now carrying out, which is what Alex does. Right. This isn't a topic you can really talk sensibly with Alex about, or the people who are in the same saber rattling campus him, because this is not a humanitarian and resource issue. To them, this is literally an invasion. Yeah. This is the globalists attacking the white population of the United States by sending in a ton of military-aged men who will commit crimes, but also vote, making sure that the GOP can never win another election again. The position someone like Alex holds on this kind of an issue is a dead end, in terms of debate or trying to get him to move even a little. If you can demonstrate to him that the unauthorized immigrant population is approximately the same as it was in 2006, that's not going to matter. He's just going to pull up a headline of some immigrant who committed a crime and then flash on screen a video of a
Starting point is 00:39:34 ton of people who are trying to cross the Rio Grande River to apply for asylum. There's nothing, no amount of sanity or calm explanation that's ever going to work in a scenario like this because this intersects with the bedrock issue for Alex, his whiteness. He may not use slurs and he may not, you know, he may try to keep the wild racism to a minimum on the show, but Alex definitely believes that the U.S. is a white country. The migrants that are coming in on the southern border represent a threat to the power insecurity of his whiteness, and he feels like this is being done as an intentional attack by the globalists using these migrants as a weapon. Alex's narratives are incapable of even treating them as people because why should you leave
Starting point is 00:40:11 water out to help a weapon get to you? Why should you have any humanitarian concern for a weapon? So the whole premise and the paradigm within this argument lives within for Alex is one that you really just can't even discuss because it's non-negotiable. Yeah, I mean, you can't change the context of a existential war. You can only either exist or stop existing.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Right, and for you to have any kind of a nuanced position that involves historical trends of immigration and you know this kind of, you're siding in the truth you're siding with the weapon you would side with the weapon because you're a weapon right fuck all right but this comes down to two is that Biden is on the way out sure now all of this dovetails in with a whole bunch of mainstream news articles, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Yahoo. They're all reporting that officially the Democrats are telling Biden to step down.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And that Obama has basically taken control of the campaign of big minds, of K.A. Michael, as Obama calls her, Michael Obama, being inserted in at the convention. But the word is, Biden is refusing, actually trying to be the president. Doesn't mean he's a good person, but he's like, I'm not a puppet. The Obama's working to take Biden out of the race,
Starting point is 00:41:40 Iraq telling him to quit. Okay, so that's not something that can be done. Yeah. I know that Alex just needs to, you know, place to insert his transphobic jabs and he has a lot of fun with that and the audience enjoys it. But Michelle Obama can't just be slotted in to run for president. It's just not how that's stupid. And when the Krasenstein brothers explained to Alex why this isn't viable on that debate, he had no rebuttal. He just sat there looking like an idiot. Yep. And that
Starting point is 00:42:04 actually illustrates a good point. One of the reasons that debating Alex is pointless is because he has no respect for truth. You can thoroughly reveal him to be dumb about a certain topic, crush his talking points, only for him to continue using those talking points. And you go, buh buh buh buh, I won the fight! Right! He doesn't have that normal human instinct towards shame or growth, where if you're dunked on for being wrong
Starting point is 00:42:26 You would stop doing the thing that got you dunked on. He doesn't care because he wasn't actually dunked on. Mm-hmm. He got dunked on if you come from a place of caring about reality or truth, but Alex doesn't. He only cares about what works for him in the moment. You showing him that he's wrong and knows zero about what he's talking about doesn't even make a dent because he knows that he can continue using this talking point to scare the audience about the idea that they could have a black trans woman as their president, which really gets all their grievance fears flowing. This notion intersects with the ideas they have about the federal government, but also race and gender. It's a powerful
Starting point is 00:43:01 line of bullshit with Alex's audience. And that's why even if he's forced to admit that he doesn't think that Michelle Obama is trans before, which he has been forced to admit before. And he was just making bigoted jokes. He can just trot it back out pretending to be serious because it doesn't matter. It is the greatest power of these shitheads that if you believe you are dunking on them, you are the one who is being dunked on. Or at very least wasting time. Yeah. You know, it's not necessarily a shame to do it on a cosmic sense. Yeah. The dunking is upon you. Yeah. Alex knows that some random person can't just come in and take Biden's nomination of the presidency, but it's effective to the audience. So it will stay. He knows that Michelle's
Starting point is 00:43:44 assist woman, but the idea that she's not plays into a lot of the racist and transphobic fears that animate his audience, so it will stay. Obama didn't tell Biden to step aside or any of that shit. He had a meeting with him to give some advice about how to pivot into the general election. Alex can point to plenty of op-eds written by various people about how there shouldn't be another Biden-Trump election
Starting point is 00:44:04 and even some random people saying that Biden should step aside. But Alex is severely overplaying this to the point where you can just say he may as well be making it up. Yeah, ridiculous. No, I that's yeah, everybody needs to stop and remember and realize that for the rest of our lives before we were born until we're long after we're dead, we are going to constantly have to hear shitheads call black women who are powerful men. Yeah, we are going to constantly have to hear shit heads call black women who are powerful men. Yeah, that's going to be our lives forever. Yep. Yep, and Alex makes the most of that racism, you know So also Trump won 2020 let's not forget that great Trump won the last two presidential elections. We know that
Starting point is 00:44:40 he's now won New Hampshire three times in a row nobody's ever done that and He's gonna win in the landslide. They can't overpower that with mail-in ballots. They can try it with digital systems. But when you've got such a huge majority of people voting for Trump, it's very hard to do. But why? They are going to try it with everything they've got.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So all of this ties in together. No, it doesn't. So I have some concerns that Alex's prediction could come true that Trump could win in 2024, but I want to point out that Trump is definitely not the first person to win the New Hampshire primary three times. This was just a meme that was going around in right wing social media, so it's likely that Alex saw that and then just decided that's research. In reality, Nixon won it three times and and FDR wanted four times in a row he would have
Starting point is 00:45:28 had to mm-hmm I would have had to but you know what I mean yeah that said it's good to hear that we want to have to put up with any mules and ballot harvesting conspiracies this year since Alex says that's not a viable option yeah that is nice you better be careful what he says about the electronic stuff at At least one of those companies is pretty good at suing people who talk shit. Careful. We'll see. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:49 So you got Biden. Yeah. And then you got Abbott. Sure. Governor Abbott of Texas. Right. And they're in a standoff. Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Except they're not really because Biden doesn't exist. Interesting. But it is extremely good news that Abbott has played a game of chicken with Obama and I'm really going to just stop referring to it as Biden and Obama is a minion of the globalist too but he actually calls shots under their orders but he's he's in committee. What does that even mean? Let's not and by the way he got elected both times he was popular he manipulated people when people went elections we'll be honest about it but his job was to create division in the name of stopping division for the eventual end of this country as we know it.
Starting point is 00:46:36 You can almost feel Alex desperately trying to stop himself from saying race war. Yeah I mean yeah really. You should just let it fly. We already know that's what he thinks the globalists are supposed to have been shooting for under Obama. He's very clear about that. Also, he can go fuck himself with that Obama one clean stuff. Here's a little sampler of Alex's take on Obama and election fraud. I never said Barack Obama stole the election. The evidence is they pretty much stole the election for Obama. And that's what you see now. They're going to go to full fraud and then Obama wants to sit there when he clearly stole the 2012 election. And by
Starting point is 00:47:10 the way, Trump tweeted and wrote letters the day after saying this is clearly fraud. And so listen, I didn't vote in the 2008 election because I said it's clear Obama's that shows in print, they'll be election fraud if he isn't payment all bombs got election fraud he can use uh... he's got the supreme court that'll basically do whatever he wants say it becomes a contested election so this fraudulent election all bomba this is a false
Starting point is 00:47:37 uh... mandate they're saying to carry out all of their different frauds and uh... your lecture even the evidence shows even though Romney was a dead horse, still he really beat Obama, the election fraud evidence shows and not that that would have been good. Oh man, so you can pretend that he believed Obama won fair and square because he needs to do this, he doesn't, he's kind of putting himself in a box where it seems like he just calls everything fraud. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's easier to reminisce the longer elections go further. You know, the further back they are, the more
Starting point is 00:48:08 you're like, Oh, well, that's when they used to be real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There has to be at least one time when you're like, I hate this guy, but he won and Alex tries to rewrite his own past to create that appearance. He knows he's pretty transparently unhinged with the calling everything fraud. Every election is is fraud so this is a fraudulent attempt to temper that appearance right it's full of shit yeah yeah you have to have at least one like sir I don't agree with your election but I would die yeah yeah so there's some other news that's flying around mm-hmm you know about Kerry Lake I do not know who's Kerry Lake she's the governor of Arizona. I remember
Starting point is 00:48:45 that it was election fraud that she lost. And now she's running for the Senate. Sure. Good luck. So there's a little bit of a conspiracy around her here. Okay. What's in the Kerry Lake audio with the head of the RNC that the the Republican Party in Arizona? She says, man, I'm really worried they're going to kill me. He goes, yeah, there's a lot of Mexican mafia and MS-13. How many times have I told you, and it's come out, that the Democrats are using MS-13, the Mexican mafia, and other cartels to kill people they don't like?
Starting point is 00:49:23 And that's why they're bringing them in and working with them and laundering money with them. And they use them as muscle on the migrants, the illegals, that don't work slave labor, don't give their kids up for sex slavery, don't sign up the right lawyers to pay them a big percentage of their paycheck that's fenced back in the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:49:42 So they're farming these illegal aliens just like they do homeless. You see these homeless on fentanyl out there. Some of them are bringing in $100,000 a year or more of their disabled and they get a small part of the money they get out of state, local, federal and other monies. And most of it goes to the NGOs, non governmental organizations. Citation needed. Wow. Maybe in Carter. Maybe he's basing this on in Carter. Okay. Now, I'm gonna say this. I'm just saying that sometimes I remember like when you're on a boat man, you're on a boat, you're in the ocean for a long time. It's like the 1700s. Mm hmm. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:20 you got it. It's just about survival at a certain point. You know, and like when a guy is talking this crazy that guy's got to not be on this boat no more You know like that's just where we're at with this Be an unpleasant boat. Are you talking about sir? You gotta get off this boat right? There are sharks outside. I understand it. I don't like them the Democrats on the shark that I don't like you Yeah, I think he needs proof some of those assertions. I would reckon. Yeah, I feel like they're a lot of dangling threads in that there. Clip. Yeah, still waiting on him to pull the chip out of a guy's arm
Starting point is 00:50:56 that he promised to do years ago. Really excited. He's just forgotten that one. Yeah. So what's going on here is a Kerry Lake noted weirdo and person who lost the 2022 race for Arizona governor, is taking on a bit of a habit of secretly recording people. And a reason exclusive that she gave to the Daily Mail, bad sign right out of the gate. Why are we allowing me? Alright, okay, keep going. So the Daily Mail, she gave them the story, she gave them the audio. She's heard talking to the head of the GOP in Arizona, Jeff DeWitt, who appears to be attempting to bribe her
Starting point is 00:51:27 to stop running for office, presumably referring to the current Senate run. Although, I don't know, I don't remember seeing what the date on this was, so it might have been her governor's voice. So in the clip, he says that there are powerful people who don't want her running and is clearly talking about some people in the GOP
Starting point is 00:51:42 who don't want their party to become the lunatic Trump team. Sure. What's happened here is that the Daily Mail released a heavily edited version of Lakes Recording that includes this chunk right here. There are very powerful people who don't want to keep you out of the system. Oh, they do. But they're willing to put their money with their mouth is in a big way so This conversation never this is crazy though. They should want me. I'm a great candidate These people are corrupt well Maybe you're right. Yeah, what the fuck is this guy?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Who the fuck is this guy? Don't go. I don't get myself into trouble. If you say no, let's just find your choice. Don't tell people. They're gonna try to have me murdered. He's world man. If that stuff that came out last week is right about the cartel stuff. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:52:41 The cartels are 15 states right now. So what's going on? Who is it? What? Forget the who. What is that? He seems like he's a little speedy. What is that shit?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Oh my god. It seems pretty clear that some of this is at least a little patched together. I do think that he is maybe trying to bribe her though. I mean I don't care. That might very well be. I do think that he is maybe trying to bribe her though. I mean, I don't care. I don't care. Whatever it is that guy is saying, you need to get away from him. Listen to the man talk. Hey, they're willing to back it up in a big way. Don't worry about who you're. I don't care. I don't care what you have to say. You got to go. It just seems like a very strange path for the conversation to follow. Like he offers
Starting point is 00:53:23 her a job to drop out of the race. if she says no, that's totally cool, but just be quiet about it. Then Carrie says that she's going to be killed over this and Duit essentially says that the cartels will get her. And then calmly, Carrie asks, who the job offer is from? I need to hear the raw version of this before I'm going to jump to any conclusions. It feels staged at the very least. Why are you grandstanding about how much they should want you?
Starting point is 00:53:44 I don't think it's staged. She knows she's recording. Right. So it's her side of it is essentially staged. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not staged on his end because he ended up resigning after this came out. Really? Yeah. Well, he should never have been there in the first place. If that's how you're talking
Starting point is 00:53:59 to people, everybody should have seen that in advance. Yeah. You're acting like a guy in a movie trying to make a bride. You're the most bribing guy there's ever been. Yeah. Yeah, you're acting like a guy in a movie Yeah, how did you get this far? Yeah, I need I need more context I need the full version of this but not Alex the optics really work for him So there they're determined This is a hundred percent confirmed reality and then there's all that stuff about Migrants and people experiencing homelessness that he said he's not proven any of that stuff, but it's all vibe. It works for the vibe. So it's true. Here's what makes me so angry. All right. Now these people shit talk the cartels all the time all the time because
Starting point is 00:54:36 they're so evil. But our big problem isn't that they're evil. It's that they run so much better than these idiots who are trying to catch him. Like, can you believe this? Here's what here's what a cartel guy says whenever there's a conversation where he's like, this conversation ever happened. Here's what the cartel guy says. Nothing. The conversation doesn't happen. Somebody else has the conversation because they don't get caught.
Starting point is 00:54:59 You have to be an idiot to say this conversation. Here's the issue that you're trying to get to the nub of. They're better at crime. They're better at crime. Yes. And when there's corrupt people here doing this shit, it is embarrassing. And I'm sure the cartel would laugh at this.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I wish I would be disappointed if I was the cartel. I'd be like, man, we could really run this country pretty well. So Alex talks a little bit more shit shit And the hottest thing for over 20 years is not to be a social worker to be an NGO and Then you get set up in this and put a different community organizer system. What is Obama? That guy's two up the clip Obama says we need a domestic security force Just as big and just as strong as our military said it in 2007 when he was running for office and They even tried to have we have the videos of
Starting point is 00:55:52 The Obama domestic security force training where it's literal black kids brainwashed to be racist chanting Obama is our leader We're gonna take over America Now that program he launched it didn't fly. It's too ridiculous. I agree. Who called it too ridiculous? Looking over some of the it's too ridiculous even for me. I like the spirit of this, but it is too ridiculous. I have tons of kooky plants, but this one's too much. Rom manual. Maybe came in and it was like too ridiculous. No.
Starting point is 00:56:25 So Alex, uh, uh, It was like too ridiculous. No. So Alex said that was just bunch of nonsense. Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to respond to that way? But Alex reads the governor Abbott's statement and we're going to cut in and media red of that. And Alex is starting to wrestle with an inherent issue with his coverage. And he's this is going to be a big problem once callers start getting into the mix. But Alex has been a bit critical of Abbott because he went along with some of the COVID stuff. He is a pseudo globalist in Alex's worldview. If you are following Alex and paying attention historically,
Starting point is 00:57:03 he's not been somebody who's like, yeah, Abbott's the kind of guy who's going to have a showdown with the federal government. We, Abbott's not at the Alamo's where we were. Yes. Now it appears that Abbott built the Alamo. Yeah, and so this tension is going to be a little bit of an issue, and Alex tries to, I think, preemptively deal with that here. The failure of the Biden administration to fulfill its duties imposed by Article 4, Section 4 has triggered Article 1, Clause 10, Article 1, 10, Clause 3, which reserves
Starting point is 00:57:33 to the state the right to self-defense. For these reasons, I have already declared an invasion under Article 1, 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas Constitutional Authority to defend and protect itself. The authority in the Supreme law of the land and supersedes all federal statutes to the contrary. The Texas National Guard, the Texas Department of Public Safety and other Texas personnel are acting on that authority as well as state law to secure the Texas border. Bravo, Greg Abbott baby, that's the shot heard around the world right there. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And I've told people this 5,000 times and I'll say it again. When things get rough, we're going to think people who are against us are going to learn our action for us. And people we thought were for us were going to learn our action against us. And people are going to have times of conscience when it gets so clear how bad it is that they're going to join us. And at that point when you get real action, we need to not completely trust them and don't turn our backs on them, but don't get in the way of what's going on because this is good and this is real.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And we should be talking about how we're going to back this and how we're going to support this because we've been put into a UN country collapsing emergency with these tens of millions of people to be organized into a permanent political voting block and political action block and a violent block and what did the head of the Republican Party threaten carry like with she said I think they're gonna kill me I've been getting threats. She says yeah Yeah, the cartels will kill you Who do you think the cartels was a bad a present girls? Who do they work for? turns out to see I But yeah, so I think that you have That wasn't bad at boys and girls. Who do they work for? Turns out the CIA.
Starting point is 00:59:05 But yeah, so I think that you have a essential plea to like, guys, this works. This works for us. Don't get caught up in the shit that we don't like Abbot that much. Calm down. Right, right, right. Calm down.
Starting point is 00:59:21 We can exploit this. I do appreciate the speed with which rats can escape. You know, you got like somehow you and I are both standing there on the boat going like maybe we can fix this and the rats are long gone. You know, like Alex is like, hey, fuck it. We've hated Abbott in the past. Who cares? Let's go. Let's go. We gotta go.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We gotta go. We gotta get there now. We gotta go. Yeah. you had a secret coming to the Lord moment yeah move yeah this is this is a tense situation that could break in our favor and yeah really fucked up absolutely yeah and here's the thing it could get even crazier hmm it's just gonna get wilder and crazier from here on out. But at least people know what's going on. And now 14 states have signed on and a bunch of the states are sending their National Guard down here. And will they stop it all or will it be perfect? But no, at least we're drawing
Starting point is 01:00:15 attention to it. And the governor is creating a constitutional crisis where he knows he's in the right to get all the support across the country and to spotlight that Biden is now, oh Biden, talking about nationalizing the state guard, which he can only do to stop invasion so that it'll facilitate an invasion and then in comes the Supreme Court and yeah, are they getting blackmailed at a certain level? We know they are. But if they see everything shifting our way, they will flip over to our side. That's what I explained to people.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Oh, so they're not motivated by the law. They're motivated by vibes. And like, if you have a big enough crowd, the Supreme Court's like, oh, hey. Do you know what? Here's what's bumming me out. These are gun people having word talks and I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You know what I'm saying? Like, what are you doing talking to me about how he can invoke article blankety blank of we're putting up razor wire and holding guns at people? What are you doing? Yeah, stop that. Well, I think you're talking to intellectualize the brutality of what's going on and the fact that you just want to exploit it for money. Yeah, stop this.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, you see the people on social media, people like Tim Poole and shit have been posting about this with links to their food, their survival food. Seriously? Yeah. Oh my God. So you know, you have, you have those folks and it's, it's clear. It's like, Oh, you would really like for this to get worse and to get crazier because that feeds into your marketing paradigm. Right. And Alex is no different. And I think you can tell that. Yeah. And also a no different. And I think he can tell that. Yeah. And also, a couple quick points about that flight of fancy.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Sure. Supreme Court has already decided on this. Yeah. By the time Alex was on air, you should have every reason to know that there's no reason not to. It was on the internet. And he's either woefully uninformed or he's lying
Starting point is 01:01:57 because acknowledging that the Supreme Court already had decided about this would hurt his narrative. Yeah. Second, an invasion is absolutely not the only reason that Biden could nationalize the Guard. There are tons of reasons, and brazen insubordination and refusal to cooperate with a Supreme Court decision is within that range. Alex fucking understands this. He and his buddies all wanted Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act over mail-in ballots so he can calm the fuck down. This, so ridiculous. Yeah, it's embarrassing. No, that's that's what I'm saying. Like I'm I'm it is it is so annoying. Like what are you doing telling me
Starting point is 01:02:30 about a clause? You're supposed to be gun people. You're supposed to be shooting. Come on. Well, you know, I think you lose the public if you go gun first. But hey, man, yeah, you hear something? Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. You hear something? Yeah. There's something fun. Yeah, let's do it. I did a review today that's going to air tomorrow on the Mug Club. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:02:51 For people that sign up at Jonescriter.com, a review of Demolition Man made in 1993. Okay, now, well, now I'm back. Can you watch that movie? Jumping back. And Beats the Band and the Family's Band and Virtual Reality runs your life. You say, how did they predict this? Because they're telling you what they were going to build What are the three C shells dear?
Starting point is 01:03:09 They're throwing it in your face people the throne in your face Man is predictive programming Master still low you go see demolition man and they laugh they laugh at you go see demolition man and they laugh they laugh at you mm-hmm what a great movie what a truly great movie don't know if I've seen it in many many years been a long time but man Wesley Snipes commits sure every every single step of the way so Alex in this next clip kind of starts off bragging about his show a little bit sure and get some stuff wrong and then he goes nuts this show Studies the actual controllers and their plans and also study systems that are pro-human
Starting point is 01:03:54 To counter it and that's what I do. I cover the real world. I Cover the reality. That's why they don't want you tuned in That's why they don't want you sharing the links because if you ever figure out what they're up to and how horrible it is for you and your family, you are going to reject it. And this whole broadcast is about believing in you. So, I knew when Governor Abbott went down there and blocked the illegals at one entry point coming in, that the feds would take the bait and come try to block it. But the board of patrol has refused to get in physical confrontation with the Texas guard and now
Starting point is 01:04:29 Abbott is blocking off more for obvious reasons and now 14 states have joined him and now seven states are sending troops. Do you realize the history you're living in right now? They're sitting in some movie about the states joining up against the feds like they have coming out next month. All the other TV shows promoting it and branding it as racist, evil and bad. This is happening under the Constitution and is real and is good. And will Governor Abbott's operations save us?
Starting point is 01:05:05 No, but all of this resistance together will. And this isn't a tiny cut against the New World Order. This is a big one. And the fact that all these states piled on now and are sending troops is massively positive. Now here's the problem. What's the problem? If I was the New World Order, if I was the devil as Paul Harvey would say. If I was stupid.
Starting point is 01:05:29 What would you do right now? You'd be activating a... If I had a million of drugged out wackos they've been funding and controlling for years. You know they got a bunch of them? Sure. To go set off a truck bomb at a migrant center on the border. Or a mass shooting. Okay. Or maybe they assassinate Biden because he's refusing to step down.
Starting point is 01:05:50 A little bit of an escalation there. My mother never gets involved in politics. I... She's a Christian and a Christian historian and really smart person and she's just very private. But my mother for three years has told me they're gonna assassinate Biden at to bring in martial law because the spirit has told her and she's been very very direct about about it. And my mother is a testable hypothesis of the touch. But you can politically see all this and know
Starting point is 01:06:34 that's in the cards. I have a show that we talk about reality. There are secret messages and demolition by the end of my mom's psychic. I swear to you, I the moment that he said that I had this vision of the Superman two ending of like zooming out and there's me trapped in the Phantom zone next to Alex and him being like, we cover reality and me just going as I spin through space in the void forever. Yeah. That felt, that felt dark. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun for Alex to pump himself up about how serious and right he is and how his mom's a psychic, but the reality is he's got basics of this story wrong.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I have it in the Texas Guard didn't just put up razor wire and eagle pass. They put miles and miles of it up. The only reason this point is different than somewhere else is because there's a Border Patrol station there and they took issue with not being able to be in control of the country's border. It's important for Alex's version to distort some of these details because if he presents it this way, he's able to make Abbott's move look like a masterful chess gambit, which it's not The real version of the story is more difficult to work into an easy to digest narrative form
Starting point is 01:07:33 Which is why Alex isn't even familiar with the real details much less Reporting them and that stuff about whacked out drug gangs and the globalists having them on the payroll This is just preemptive narrative building that Alex is doing because he knows that there's a high likelihood of some kind of extremist or accelerationist on his side of the street seeing this as a prime opportunity to escalate things by committing an act of domestic terror. He knows this fully well and he knows the kind of shitheads that he hangs out with, how they're itching to get into a fight with the federal government, so he needs to make
Starting point is 01:08:04 sure that if that does happen, his propaganda revenue stream stays intact. The best way to do that is to preemptively declare any horrible shit your side might do as a false flag meant to make you look bad. He does this all the time and it's a pretty savvy way to like, you know, you incite people towards violence and then pretend to be the victim of it when it does happen. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty slick. Yeah. be the victim of it when it does happen. Yeah. It's pretty, pretty slick. Yeah. Yeah. You think you think they are going to really, really have fun fighting the federal government for a minute. I think a minute is about as long as I can have fun doing it. Yeah. I feel
Starting point is 01:08:36 great for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing it guys. Yep. How long did it say? How long did it take for me to say we're doing it guys? That's about how long it'll be fun for you. Yeah, so you you what do you think about Alex's mom being a psychic? I Buy it Men all right. Well, this is this next clip is totally unnecessary And there's a lot of hokey psychics on TV and Gypsy wagons on the side of the road. My mother and her grandmother were not like that, but I'll just tell you something, I've never been told before on air.
Starting point is 01:09:10 My mother's grandmother in Dallas, Texas was an extremely famous psychic, secretly with the establishment, and was one of the, advised presidents, you name it, and she was psychic, I mean, extremely, okay? And my mother is extremely psychic, I mean, I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to they're gonna kill Biden right before the election. So I told you the story. That's true. Alex is pretending he's never told that story on here. He's told that at least a few times. Yeah. Not as many as the chicken fried steak. Sure. He has told that story before for sure. Yeah it's not one of his top legend stories. My great-grandmother was a secret psychic to the stars. Every time somebody says my my blank was secretly famous, I want to throw a punch. I want to throw it just as a
Starting point is 01:10:13 violence towards language kind of thing like I like words. It's tough to be secretly reword it reword it. You can be influential secretly. Totally. So we get back to this question of the Obamas trying to get rid of Biden. Sure. And Alex got a little specific with it and I found something curious. Okay. But I read the New York Times and the Washington Post and all of them, there's a boil down right here in Red State that they're telling him to step down. And we told you months ago from our sources that was happening. Now it's mainstream news. And he said, no, I'm the president. Not a puppet. Because they want to get big Mike ready to put in there. What what's going to happen when they kill Biden and blaming on us? What
Starting point is 01:10:55 are we going to do? Report the Obama's working to take Biden out of the race, Barack telling him to quit. So this is an article on the website red state. And one of the race, Barack telling him to quit. So this is an article on the website Red State. And one of the primary sources behind their reporting is an article that was published on PJ Media, which itself relies on a report from Radar Online, which is covering anonymous comments published in the National Enquirer. There we go.
Starting point is 01:11:20 One wonders why there's so many layers of editorializing here. Like why you couldn't just cut to the core of this and say this was published without any proof in the National Enquirer? Possibly because you would know then you don't need to take this seriously. That's probably why they did it this way. Best case scenario, Alex is reporting on this story from Red State which is fourth hand reporting itself. This is a pathetic game of telephone. And I'm not going to take it seriously. I mean, as a human, I would say that it's good advice though. Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:51 don't run. You're a hundred million years old. This is a terrible job for a hundred million year old man to have. Yeah. I think there's some, I think there's some sense in that. But, uh, like as a caring for a person kind of thing, you know, I mean that's there were stories that came out of by Obama saying don't run in the 2020 election. Absolutely. Yeah, but superimposing them on to now as some kind of a grand conspiracy is ridiculous. Yeah. And that's what Alex is doing.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Using a fifth hand source. Brutal. So anyway, Alex is not not what not no in favor of Texas becoming its own country. He's not in favor. Oh, about a year ago interviewed. And that's actually on the ballot coming up soon in Texas. Should we succeed people that don't know Texas history were called the Lonestar state of the beer because in our treaty to enter the United States even before the Civil War We had the right written in to leave the Union and go back to being our own country if we ever wanted to now I don't want Texas to be its own country
Starting point is 01:12:56 It's not that works man But if we have to invoke the powers of the states to pull out of the government to reconstitute it Without having a violent civil war of the Democrats are hyping, then that's something that needs to happen. That's ridiculous. I just- I'm patently ridiculous. I just want to try and- these are people like, okay, let me try and understand this in
Starting point is 01:13:17 a- you could call susseting being like, hey, we were all hanging out at this table and we have decided that we are done being at this table and we shall go. But in reality, what's succeeding would be, would be a bunch of people who have nothing to do with this fucking table, who just showed up at the table, who didn't build the table, who were in part of the table, who were all this stuff, and who've just been eating off
Starting point is 01:13:40 of the table, going like, we're gonna rip off a bunch of this table and then leave with it, and there's nothing you can do about it. You know who's at that table? All the other people? They're gonna be mad because they love that table. They were, yeah, it was their table. It was a really important table to them. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to think of an analogy like there's a party. Sure. A bunch of people at this party. A bunch of people.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Half of them like to smoke weed and half of them like to drink. Hey. And they can't, they can't get it together about what the party is about. Who gets to people. Half of them like to smoke weed, and half of them like to drink. Hey. And they can't get it together about what the party is about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So they decide we're all gonna leave, and then we're gonna reconstitute this party. We're all gonna get high elsewhere.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Do you think that this is gonna get solved? Oh, I don't think so. Central tension's still gonna. I don't think it's gonna go well. So Alex takes a bit of time talking about Tucker Carlson. He went to Canada and he gave a speech where he was a spout a bunch of bigoted bullshit and allow him in Canada. Apparently so. So Alex just obsesses about the crowd size and how popular Tucker is. Right. And so we don't need to care about that. Yeah. But just to note that that did happen. He was obsessed with the crowd. care about that yeah but just to note that that did happen he was obsessed with the crowd there's a big crowd so we get to the callers sure first one not great
Starting point is 01:14:48 not great Michael in North Carolina you're on the air welcome hi Alex great to talk to you sir I think we should let nature handle this problem every day that they let 800 people in this country. We should turn 800 alligators loose in that river Yeah, they are passing stop coming across Well, I don't think we've got anybody can wrangle 800 alligators You know the people being brought in are refugees from globalist policies of the lockdown. I'm not even their enemy They're that we do have people who could wrangle Your mind Michael. I just think that they're gonna form it and make an army against us. I
Starting point is 01:15:25 Think that's what their plan is at some point in time They're gonna blow the whistle and they're gonna congregate and dude Well, they're all given government phones and NGO phones and they are announcing legal aliens will be the new military and police So that's actually true. That's not speculation. Oh, oh, that is true. They're forming an army against us. Yep. Oh, okay, Dan. Yeah, one day Quote they're all gonna whistle. Mm-hmm, then they'll be around you But there's gonna the Obama phones that they got will go off and then Another person I don't think I cut this clip because it was getting redundant But somebody is like I think that the power will go out and that's when everyone will know all the immigrants will know to attack and kill off the population.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Yeah. Right, man. Well, yeah, but that's, you know, we're getting the temperature of some of Alex's audience here. They want to release alligators on migrants, which at least, I mean, Alex is not caring about the humanity of these people, but at least he gives some tepid pushback to let's release the hounds. I appreciate a strange aspect of our lives.
Starting point is 01:16:31 The contract that we have made with all of these types of folk is that that guy is going to deliberately say exactly what it is he means. He is going to give us all an acknowledgement of his lack of care. These migrants will stop coming if they see their friends and family killed by alligators. Right. While we watch. Right. We've all agreed that the way we're going to deal with that is say haha and then walk away as opposed to Alex did as opposed to being like that man is a murderer waiting for his chance. He is. He is in the right circumstances and alligator murderer. Yep. Yep. So we get another caller and this guy
Starting point is 01:17:10 seems like a real dickhead. Let's talk to folks in Hawaii, Paul in Hawaii. What's your view on this? Hi Alex. I agree 100% with what, what Texas is doing. I think they have every right to do that. I think every state should be doing it. Okay. Then get out of Hawaii. I mean, yeah, here's, here's a problem. Here's the problem with these kinds of idiots is that once you start saying, I think it's right for these people to do that, then you have to ask yourself the question if it was not my people doing this, get out of Hawaii. What do I think is right? Yeah, yeah And if that's the case and if you want to argue that that is fine with me You're gonna end up getting to some uncomfortable conclusions, right?
Starting point is 01:17:53 I probably won't stand behind right that's that's kind of where I'm struggling with with this type of thing with this 800 alligator guy. That's a different guy. No, I know I mean In a larger metaphorical yeah, yeah, he doesn't matter who that guy is. Right. But that idea of like, there is a resolution to this, but we don't want to go there. You know, like, like realistically, there's only one way to deal with a guy who truly believes that killing a bunch of migrants is going to be the only way to keep us from having more migrants. There's just, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Well, there is time. Exactly. Time will. Or at least limiting their exposure to the rest of the fucking world. Right. You don't get to be part of it. There's such a difficulty that comes
Starting point is 01:18:41 with the advent of social media and the prevalence of the internet that you there is no real way to stop. Nope. Someone who wants just immigrants killed by alligators. You get a voice. Yep. Yep. And that's good. I don't know how you deal with that. Well, you can. You hope that what you would do is make it so people would be more able to recognize that rhetoric when they hear it as being something that is abhorrent. Sure. And you know inhuman in a lot of ways. Not that this person is inhuman, but it's inhumane the the way he views these immigrants. Sure. And you would hope
Starting point is 01:19:21 that like you would solve it on a like an end side as opposed to the producer of this speech side. Sure. But I don't know how effective that is as a strategy. Yeah, I mean, realistically, I think the irony of it is just going to be the rest of us either saying, fine, we're going to play by your rules for a little bit, in which case things get very, very bad. Or we just pretend they don't exist until they die.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Yeah. Yeah. And it becomes harder and harder with the, you know, with just technology. Yep. But we get the same caller from Hawaii, right? Yeah. He's got another point he wants to make. I've heard that in Massachusetts, they uh... they want to allow people to live
Starting point is 01:20:05 in the home center asking citizens to let them into their homes yeah i believe that a lot of the kids soldiers uh... living in all of the world's cornering troops that's in the bill of rights and now we're cornering the aliens finally we got to a third of that right there's a question uh... mark anthony said that you can judge a tyrant because he's not able with foreigners. He doesn't trust his own kind.
Starting point is 01:20:30 That's why Rome eventually was bringing in illegal aliens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was it. So the Lieutenant Governor in Massachusetts just asked people to voluntarily house migrants temporarily, partially because it was freezing out and the state didn't have sufficient shelter capacity.
Starting point is 01:20:45 No one was forced to do anything. It was just an opportunity to engage in charity for your fellow human, which I guess is tyranny, according to Alex. So you can see here, though, this is becoming connected to the prohibition against forcing people to corner soldiers in the Constitution. That's because, you know, what's going on here?
Starting point is 01:21:03 There's a very clear mission to paint immigrants as a literal army force because people like Alex want the military used against them. They want them to be treated as an army. Right. And the way you treat an army is with an army. Well, I mean, honestly, in truth, the most American thing that any an undocumented immigrant can do is organize all the other undocumented immigrants overthrow the United States government and then rewrite their own constitution because my friend they are being taxed sales tax without representation my friend no taxation no representation you get to murder everyone in the government that is American law that's an interesting take mm-hmm throw it now to a constitutional
Starting point is 01:21:55 So we get another caller Amanda in South Carolina you're on here go ahead Hey darlin, hey I want to call on governor Henry McMaster to get up off his hands and get behind Texas. Yeah, the 14 governors have your governor hasn't. No, he's always like what? Even a month ago, these legal gas station drugs were killing people. Georgia, North Carolina passed laws to put bans on those and I'm hearing cricket in South Carolina. Well, I've got to check my map because my map says South Carolina's joined Texas, but I'll check that.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I hope he has, but I'm calling on him if he happens to do it. Beautiful. Anything else on your mind? Beautiful. No, I appreciate it. I appreciate you. I love Southerners. It makes people mad over where else a woman calls you darling or sweetheart. The waitress always gets bigger.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Typically do that though. Okay. That's your perception of the world. I'm not sure anyone's ever been mad about. I don't think I feel like that's not, anyway, this caller doesn't like freedom. Does she think that adults shouldn't be free to take trucker speed? That sounds like the enemy of liberty to me, quite frankly. The nanny state.
Starting point is 01:23:17 I just, people want to get high. Just let people get high. Everybody does. So this call is fun because you really get to see how the Callers for this show are angry, but not engaged Hmm She's worked up about this story and has some feelings about her governor But she has no idea what they have or haven't said that feeling and anger about the story is enough to motivate her to call in
Starting point is 01:23:40 Essentially wasting everybody's time calling on the governor to do a thing they've already done. Yeah. Yeah. She's sending Alex a letter in 1864. South Carolina better get started. They better get involved in this fight. I'm calling on the governor sitting on his hands and why won't he get rid of horse drawn carriage speed. I like horse drawn carrot speed. That's fun. So we get another caller. This guy bums me out. Oh yeah. Yeah. No history is happening. So incredibly fast. And I think honestly the globalist the only thing they have left because the momentum is too big. The wave is too big. It's going to smash in just like it did on the Marshall Islands with that giant wave recently. They're going to go ahead and they're going to try and either arrest people or they're going to try and attack
Starting point is 01:24:30 That's the only thing I think they have left Yeah, and if they attack they get in trouble, so they're gonna stage a false flag Yeah, yeah, it's it's not gonna be pretty but hey we had to be quitters it's not going to be pretty, but hey, we had to be quitters, I get to say in 1776. And we started our own. We had to be quitters in 1836 to start our own. You know, I'm calling them female reach and six as well over here in Kerbal. I ain't backing down. I took down my American flag and put up my Texas flag just because I'll put the American flag when we're free again. Well, that's right. The American flag really is captured at this point. And so I guess no way to fly it would be upside down. Thank you, Ian.
Starting point is 01:25:14 They've taken the flag. Fine. Then let me burn it again. What are we doing? It's confusing. But like the, um, I think you get the sense that the callers are all pretty clear It's like all right. We got our Confederacy again. Yeah, that's that's the tip that we're on here Yep, I can take down the American flag. Yeah that noise do it. I never liked it to begin with and I The problem is back then back in the day the South Genuinely wanted to be separate because they had their own economy, you know like they could do do it. They could pull it off. They couldn't really, but you know, right, they could give it a shot. They could write it, let it write. Now you can't. What are you going to do? No, what are you going to do? What Texas is going to secede and then
Starting point is 01:25:54 be like, Hey, also let's negotiate a deal with Walmart. What are you talking about? And so many of these states rely on federal money to even break even absurd Yeah, absurd it is stop this It is fun to take down the flag head is fun This next caller. Yeah, I don't think he's talking about the same person I think he is but I like to imagine that he is okay is otherwise if this is just a confusing story, okay? So I met a met Clarence Carter just a confusing story. Okay. So I met I met Clarence Carter on a mountainside in Virginia. Absolutely cannot be Clarence.
Starting point is 01:26:36 He owned the mountain. So cool gang used to do like special events like that. So before the band started, sitting next to him, just having a drink, you know, before the show started. And if you, you understand, you know, he he was like me, he's met a lot of famous people and kind of surrounded by that. So it's not intimidating, it's just you're a person. But right. But, but I said, what about the constitution? Bill writes and he said, those days are long gone. And we kind of looked down at the ground, shook his head. I mean, his count has changed. And I could tell that really hit him hard and it was sincere. Like I'd kind of stuck a knife in him, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:08 it's just, so it just wanted you to know that about him regardless. And I think he's under a lot of duress, but I always got the impression he was a good man. Well, yeah, there's a lot of people that know what's going on who never speak up and stand up because they think it's safer to do. There was no conversation about Clarence Carter before this
Starting point is 01:27:25 and there's no context for this. I have no idea, but I like to imagine. See, I was like, okay, can't be the same Clarence Carter. And then he starts talking about cool in the game. And he's talking about cool in the game. Wait, but then he's like, he was counting his change. But Clarence Carter's blind.
Starting point is 01:27:39 That's a weird thing. But I guess you can still count change if you're blind. I think that would actually. But then he said that he's under a lot of duress and Clarence Carter's dead Yeah Was is that like a is that like a colloquial way of saying that he was like looking at the ground? You know he was counting his change. He wasn't looking me in the eye that maybe I can I can feel that
Starting point is 01:27:58 Or maybe I just made that up and I'm gonna use it because that actually sounds kind of poetic in a way Yeah, it's like he was counting his change. I think I think, uh, I think that's, uh, yeah. Huh, I'll take that. So Clarence Carter died... Whoa, hold on a second. Clarence Carter... Holy shit. Clarence Carter is alive.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Clarence Carter is a new album. This is a Mandela effect. Oh shit, did you kill Clarence Carter in another world? No, he's alive. I could have sworn he was dead. Yeah, I know in a different universe. I was certain. Yeah, because you killed him in a different universe.
Starting point is 01:28:24 So this guy might actually be talking about Stroke and patches. I will be slip away Clarence Carter. He might be yeah That does sound right if he is it still doesn't make a lot of sense. No, but no I mean it is nice to know that he cares about the country. Yes, you know the bill of rights Mm-hmm long. You know how you learned that learned it from his daddy was a big old man Can you see him with the shoveling? I have all the things that I don't want in any kind of like anecdotal Jordan story. It would be it would be like a story where I heavy handedly and dramatically looked into
Starting point is 01:28:59 the middle distance lamenting the loss of democracy. I tell people stories like that. I was hungry one time. That's a story for me. Yeah. So you get another caller here. Yeah. This guy has a another reference as a movie. Okay. Let's go to John in Texas. John, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hey Alex, I love you, man. I'm not nervous. I'm just caffeinated. I've been thinking we should push the state of Texas to arm our citizens law abiding citizens with AR 15s and a few hundred rounds per adult so we can defend ourselves in the event of some sort of red Don event. I like that. It's very possible. We're going to come which side of red daughter you are globalist and and replacement migration red down
Starting point is 01:29:45 of in and that and that and that's all fine with me. I think everybody should be armed and we should bring back civil defense the militias of the Constitution. But more importantly, yeah man, nobody, nobody none of arms in Texas. That's the issue. Alex says we're already in a red dawn situation. So I'm going to throw this out there. I'm going to throw this out there straight out the gate. Sure. All right. If you gave every law abiding citizen an AR 15 and several hundred rounds, you would find out we have fewer law abiding citizens than you imagined originally. You might perhaps access is really the only thing that keeps a lot of laws from me. Here's the twist. Yeah. If you are a now maybe pseudo unlaw abiding person, sure, get yourself an AR 15 right. You're not gonna be fucking with people. They all
Starting point is 01:30:34 have AR 15s. No, that means that you now have extra AR 15s. That's true. You have a lot of potential to steal a lot of them from people who are law abiding citizens who don't want to shoot people. Yeah, the law abiding part of it makes you feel like the, you know what, never mind. So here's where things come to a head a little bit. There's this caller who's argued that, Governor Abbott is associated with the World Economic Forum.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Sure, yeah. There's all kinds of horrible things that you've said about him. Pseudo-g Forum. Sure, yeah. There's all kinds of horrible things that you've said about it. Pseudo-globalists, yeah. And so this, we jump in the middle of this confrontation. All right. Which isn't really much of a confrontation, but it is bringing up uncomfortable points.
Starting point is 01:31:15 What do you do when you're the state guard down there and there's women and children drowning in the water? They put up bar bar to keep them from getting through. But when they're crawling over the bar bar, what are you supposed to do? You're not in that position. So just real quick. This is Alex responding to the guy making a point that Some guy that he heard on a radio show had said that he was there and he saw them Taking people out of the barbed wire and instead of sending them back across the border They were like bringing them in and caring for them right right Right. And so that's what that made the listeners angry. Yes, they should have been sent right back
Starting point is 01:31:48 over the river and right back over the river. Yes. And look, I'm not here to defend Governor Abbott. That's not my job. But I'm also the type of guy that when all hell's breaking loose all around us and things are so crazy and 15 states have landed behind Texas and ascending troops, and Biden says in a federalized National Guard to stop this, optically this is a big deal, a big wake-up call, a big constitutional crisis. And so however Abbott got pushed into finally doing the right thing, it is a good thing overall.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I get the other talk show hosts, they spend all their time about who's the most perfect and who you can totally trust and all stuff you do that and that's fine and dandy and I'm gonna get into Michael yon I respect him a lot I've been a big credit to Abbott it's just the whole show is continually about his Abbott good or not Bill Mars now a secret patriot or is this or that we are in a new world order we're in a takeover they're trying to start World War 3 allegiances are shifting pretty rapidly. It's great to have all these states doing this,
Starting point is 01:32:47 and it's great to see all this unfolding. But I can't answer your question about it. Greg Abbott and who he prays to at 2 a.m. in the morning. I mean, I can't do it. I don't know. Listen, you dumb dumb. I have, I will not let my past actions and my past rhetoric affect my ability to cash in on this very tense situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:04 It could stop it. Okay. All right very tense situation. Yeah. It could stop. Okay. All right. Here's my pitch. Mm hmm. Okay. Once a year. We have a giant. You can become a citizen games. Oh, this is a squid situation.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I'm having a squid game situation. Okay. All right. How about we do this at the border because we're not gonna get these people to ever be like Let's open the border. I'm never gonna convince people that borders are stupid. That's just never gonna happen So we got to have some way to get people to both have a reason to be like it is okay to block people at this border Well at the same time providing a hopeful way to be like you're gonna get in you know, it's possible I think this is a little degrading, but...
Starting point is 01:33:46 Boy, it's... I mean, as far as dystopias that we live in, we're not getting... But we don't live in that one yet. We're not getting above degrading in terms of dystopia. So we gotta baseline think degrading is where we're going. I still think a squid game is not ever the right option. A lot of people say that. See, I think
Starting point is 01:34:05 that there's other paths to citizenship than murder games. Yeah. But you do you. Okay. So Alex addresses the tension there. The fact that he's built up a habit in the past is kind of like a super trustworthy figure. Right. We're getting a lot of calls on here and a lot of calls off here. Say, hey, Greg Abbott went along with the lockdowns partially, and he's done a lot of other wimpy stuff. We don't like him. So what are you doing saying this is a good thing? Well, these are politicians, so they blow which way the wind blows. Like a weather vane.
Starting point is 01:34:44 So there's massive pressure against the open border. It's the number one issue. People see the invasion happening, and he's down there to find the feds, and he's gotten 15 states to back them, and they're sending troops down here. That creates a giant political crisis, and points out that Biden's a total traitor.
Starting point is 01:35:00 That is only positive. You know, when Christ was crucified and the whole Bible's a lesson. The whole but the murderer and the thief on either side of them and one of them doesn't believe in God and says I don't want to be healed and I don't want to be forgiven. The other one does and Christ says tonight He'll be with me in paradise and I'm not judging Greg Abbott. I don't know if he's good or bad You can certainly judge a lot better than Democrats and He doesn't matter. He is got the guard down there. He started at one spot. The feds are threatened to throw
Starting point is 01:35:31 him out. Now the border patrol refuses to follow Biden's orders. Biden's about to probably federalize the state guards of the country, which is going to push this absolutely in front of the Supreme Court. Accelerate it. And what's going on is illegal. And the Supreme Court rules in favor of Biden. We know they're compromised and they're going to rule against Trump. But we're sitting here on the OK. All right. Now we've got a concrete prediction. But it's a prediction that's in the past.
Starting point is 01:35:58 He doesn't realize the Supreme Court's already chimed in on this. Now we know that Trump will not be president in 2024. Oh, because the Supreme Court is against him. Right. They're all in. We've now proved their compromise. Now they're going to say that he has to stick to that. I just doesn't recognize that this has already happened. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:36:19 That's what's funny about it. He just has feelings about this and he skimmed some headlines and now that's where we are. This is ridiculous. And like this is the instinct. Yeah. That's what's funny about it. He just has feelings about this and he skimmed some headlines and now that's where we are This is ridiculous and and like this is the instinct Yeah, this is this is something that why Alex works and he charges people up so much right is that he recognizes the vibes and Like what's going on there is so usable for his purposes. Oh, yeah This is like the most perfect clay. Yeah to mold something out of yeah, yeah, that it's like fuck this
Starting point is 01:36:49 I don't care what I've said about Abbot in the past. I don't care. He's perfect now. Maybe I don't know I can't judge a man's heart. Yep. Oh, yes Yeah, yeah, he's on a helicopter with Marines It's crazy how sharp his instincts are in terms of like, I smell profit. And you know, you have to rationalize some things sometimes and you have to jump the gun on learning about anything. Or if you have learned about it, pretend that these things haven't happened already like this Supreme court. I do like the idea of him just being like, why would you give a shit about this one? How many people have I told you are bad who are now my best friends list?
Starting point is 01:37:26 Who fucking cares about this one? I mean, I brought up Bill Maher, but he's been back and forth as a good and bad guy a hundred times. Absolutely. This is, this is the game. Bill Barr? This is a- William Barr? Okay, somebody dies in a comic book. Are they really dead? No. No.
Starting point is 01:37:42 No. Greg Abbott's bad. Is he really bad? No, no, we can be fine The only people who are bad are Lex Luthor and the Democrats move on what about Our old friend Darth Vader, I mean in this cosmology, I believe Darth Vader is actually number one a superman And so I can't sit here and wave a magic wand and say I know Don't you dare and I know who isn't I know I love God I know I want justice. I know I'm not for sale But I'm not gonna sit there when we see all this in motion and then say well, you know, I don't know about that guy Because it's it's exposing the open border. It's drawing attention to it. Oh Biden doesn't like that
Starting point is 01:38:24 This is a positive thing overall that's happening. And I use the cheesy analogy of, you know, Star Wars Return of the Jedi, this episode six, where Darth Vader's watching Palpatine kill his own son, and he's got some good in him and he says why am I destroying my own future and he decides to throw Palpatine down the reactor shaft I'm not saying even though he is crippled like Darth Vader whoa that Greg Abbott starts Vader He's not that powerful in the archetype But I'm saying are you mad at Darth Vader when he throws Palpatine on the mine shaft because that's what's starting to happen He's not thrown down at you, but he's got him over the edge I mean we're in the right folks folks. This human smuggling is illegal.
Starting point is 01:39:07 These open borders are sick. It's all- Congress sits there on their hands like they don't know what's going on. Well, they fund the State Department funding 80% of this. Roll the clip from Return of the Jedi. What? Yeah, that was bizarre. I- I- Right. God. That's the thing we need to do.
Starting point is 01:39:26 We need to play a clip of return of the jet. Oh my God. Right. Roll the clip of return of the jet. I'm going to make this a cheesy analogy. I'm all, I'm all for it. I mean, on, on a, on a philosophical. But Alex asks like he's begrudgingly making this analogy.
Starting point is 01:39:39 And then he has a clip ready to go from the movie. Oh my God. What a dork. Let's play that. Man. Also, that is one of the huge problems with the postquels is that at the end of Return of the Jedi, and it's still maintained in the in the prequels is that Anakin does fulfill the prophecy by bringing balance to the force. He kills the two remaining Sith, you know, he kills
Starting point is 01:40:00 Emperor Palpatine and he himself dies ending the Sith fulfilling the prophecy. You know, then the postquels. Nope. Nope. Nope. Somehow Palpatine is back. Can I can I can I make a point? What would that be? You're a nerd. Yes, I am, buddy. So we get another caller and this caller finally gets really
Starting point is 01:40:24 to the core of the issue. Sure. Which is Are we gonna secede? That is a good question. What's going on here? That is a good question. Yes. Shit or get off the pot time. More or less. Yeah. My question about this whole thing is What happens if this brews up to a separation of states here because we got Amy Comey Barrett that just let us down in the Supreme Court? Crazy. That is a reference to the Supreme Court decision that Alex is pretending hasn't happened. Didn't happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Right. What's your take on where we go from there? We got Johnson who's doing nothing. No tapes released from J6. Nothing. He's another. Look, look, look, look, look, look, I mean, we got this head of the RNC in Arizona caught trying to bribe people and threaten them.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Look, and he just went down. So here's the deal. So look, we didn't look for a fight, but if you're walking on a parking lot at night and some dude knocks you upside down, no reason, you don't know if you're going to win, but you're going to go ahead and beat the hell out of them, right? So I say that politically. I don't know how this is going to end.
Starting point is 01:41:23 I've said this a thousand times. I tried. I don't know how it's all going to end, but we're already in the fight, brother. And so that's all I know. Our leverage is that we separate. You know, Texas already had a model for... Well, here's the deal. Here's the deal. I don't like the break-up of the country, but it's already gone.
Starting point is 01:41:42 We're already under UN control. So, yes, I have said this for decades I Would be for the states pulling out of the compact to reestablish the Republic under the original bill of rights declaration of independence Constitution I mean I agree I mean I would actually support right now. We got 15 states They could just say we no longer represent the feds. We're not gonna shoot you We're not gonna kill you right now a civil war like the liberal media says we're gonna politically say we no longer are under your control And then we can have our own constitutional convention and another ten states will join us And we'll just frog march those people out there and have a new election and it's game over
Starting point is 01:42:15 It's gotta happen. That's a that's a peaceful coup by the way a Peaceful countercoup good save good save with the countercoup. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. This is ridiculous Do you know that every year the United States military receives roughly $800 billion on a yearly basis and and this is the most important part. No one really knows where it goes. Sure. Okay. There's no actual accounting for it. Well, it's all for UFOs. Now, if you were to say dissolve the union, an accounting practice that already does not exist, that found almost a trillion dollars in a military with not as many people as you might think. Boy, that's a lot of money that I would take. Well, I think, you know, you bring up one thing. Yeah. And there's a million others sure that just make this a stupid over simplified plan. Terrible. It's not. It's a non starter.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Yeah. It's fun to talk about for them. And it would be very fun to act like, yeah, you know, what we're going to do, we're just going to break up the union, and then we're just gonna put it back together again the way we like it. Right. And that makes sense. It's just so dumb. Yeah, I can't even there's no other word for it. It's dumb. Yeah, because here's the thing. Yeah, it's not real. No, it's the respectable version of what Alex actually wants, which is a civil war. Yeah, it's a hand made tale. He wants maybe
Starting point is 01:43:46 The disillusion of the Union to bring it back as a right-wing dictatorship. Yeah, I mean a really even then like what is the the endgame has Is is endless thirst, you know like imagine the fascist win all the United States The point of the point of these people is that the getting is the fun part. Mm-hmm. They don't want to run shit, right? Well, Trump because when president he doesn't want to be president right because you know as soon as they Reconstitute the Republic with the Bill of Rights That's why there's going to be a Some other new problem. If the fighting. Oh no, the deep state's still here. Totally. Oh no. Or then you go like
Starting point is 01:44:30 fuck it. The only way to save our border is to move our border to the southern border of Mexico by which I mean we're gonna take over Mexico. Sure, that could be another way to distract. Yeah. Fun. Yep. So Alex really betrays some principles here. How does that go? I think we're just about too late as far as the 10 million that has already crossed the border. I don't know the answer completely on how to handle that with the next hopefully the next president that comes in. Other than we need to find these people and send them back. Well, nobody's going to complain about state taxes for deportation.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Right. What state? Who wouldn't pass a 5% extra tax for a year to deport every one of these people? Isn't taxation theft? I mean, I feel very strange about this. I don't know what these people's the people the problem I have with the rules that these people have is that they're a bunch of five-year-old rich kids who Wine because every time the rules are like oh well this isn't to my advantage. They change the rules to their advantage
Starting point is 01:45:39 That's fucking that's annoying. It is. I'm willing to to lose I have no problem losing in a fair fight that's fine I'm happy losing that's great next time I'll get better that's the competition element right sure none of this change in the rules ah even though I don't actually win anyway it really only works with changing rules though hey hey whee so I think a lot of people would be opposed to a 5% tax increase in order to fund deportations of. That would be an issue. Of like, I assume in that number, he's including like naturalized resident non-aliens.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Let's be clear, let's be clear. I wanna take food out of your children's mouths in order to hurt other people who you don't know and who aren't causing a problem and make it you know abundantly clear here that that is where they're at in terms of a conversation is mass deportations rounding up of people and deporting them. And man I would like to live through a stretch of time in the United States where I did not feel like the right wing elements of my government weren't in the midst of killing millions of people.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Nah, it's not gonna happen. I mean, I agree with the ambition. It would be nice. So Alex, in this next clip, I believe lays out the plan, basically basically of what his rhetoric involves. And look, folks, I'm not here in some Greg Abbott worship fest. We got 15 states behind us. I told Joe Wickey, oh, this is real. This is pissed off the out of control feds. This is getting the public's attention and we're going to force the feds to overplay
Starting point is 01:47:21 their hand. They're going to nationalize the state guard and then it's off the racist. Okay. Exacerbate the situation, make things even worse, get the government to respond in a way that they have to because you're making things so much worse. And then call that to your an insist that you should be able to shoot feds. Yep. It's kind of the game plan that Alex has. Yeah. I mean the I mean here's the real problem. The real problem is main character disease. Right. Can arrest Greg Abbott. Shove it up his ass. Shove it up his ass and put him in a prison. Right. Fuck Greg Abbott. You can do that.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Well, that's when the National Guard comes in to break it out. No, don't nationalize fucking anything. We're doing all of this other bullshit because that can happen to people who aren't main characters. You can arrest non-main characters. You can kill all the henchmen that you want. Every single National Guardsman or immigrant or whomever dies at that border
Starting point is 01:48:22 for whatever dumb fuck reason that doesn't matter to them whatsoever at all is a fine death, totally fine. But if you inconvenience Greg Abbott for executing his constitutional duties, fuck off. People get mad, that's ridiculous. That is absolutely absurd. So you're suggesting they should rescue Abbott?
Starting point is 01:48:42 Absolutely, DeSantis, these people are traffickers. Well. They kidnapped migrants and then sent them to another place. Under false pretence. That's a crime. Yeah. And if you don't want to arrest them for that crime,
Starting point is 01:48:55 I get to commit crimes now. Well. Those are the rules. Well. That's a fair fight. Do you understand what I'm saying? I do. If you're gonna change the rules where it's okay
Starting point is 01:49:04 for him to traffic migrants Then I get to traffic his ass into the ocean for people at home Jordan is just as animated as you might imagine he was a lot of hand gestures The ocean is over here. The ocean is over there. It is up to the right Yeah, I don't know. It's a mass. Yeah, that's basically the point that I have. Yeah, the whole is it's a mass. So Alex predicts some false flags here. Well, I think it's clear they're gonna false flag migrants. If I was
Starting point is 01:49:34 them and I wouldn't do this myself, I'm saying, I get their brain, they're gonna blow up or shoot a bunch of illegal aliens. And then anybody is for, you know, control the borders now terrorist. I mean, you can see what's going on. That's it. Hold the line. Don't do, don't attack, stay peaceful. Oh, obviously none of us are going to attack the border patrol of the illegal aliens. We feel sorry for them.
Starting point is 01:49:54 But I'm saying the deep state is going to do that. People should be ready for that. That's right. That's right. You nailed it. I mean, that's what I'm saying. We've got to make it known that we are not violent. We are peaceful
Starting point is 01:50:05 we love god we love the rule of law we're we're patriots and and anyone who comes against us you know the satanic globalist these people are sick you know they gotta go they know that there's there are six thank you randy i'm gonna move quick here buddy i think that uh... all this is is alex recognizes that there are segments within his right wing population That would very love they would love to use this as an opportunity to bomb a migrant facility and make this way way way worse Yeah, that is something that people within his community the fringer elements of it
Starting point is 01:50:40 It's very much not a past what they would consider doing and Alex knows that if that does happen There's a chance that people would take right wing extremism far more seriously. Yeah much like happened with Oklahoma City people were people were not necessarily heeding the warnings that folks had about like these fucking groups But there's great potential for blowing up a building. And then happens everybody starts taking it seriously. The right wing extremist community had a much harder time organizing, profiting off newsletters and what have you. And Alex recognizes that. So in advance of that, you have to start sowing these seeds that anything bad that happens is fake. It's
Starting point is 01:51:22 the deep state. Our side is above reproach and nobody could ever possibly do any of this shit Yeah, it's a fucking game. Yep Yep, unless you're on the verge of winning in which case you can say the capital is fallen exactly you can make a gauche move like Got glasses Harrison Wow couldn't come up with his name. Harrison Smith. That's how fucking worthless you are. That I forgot about your momentarily. Damn fucking freezing. Forgot your name. Jesus Christ. So we have one last clip. Yeah. It's another caller. And I really think that this gets to the core of what we're talking about. Okay. This is like an intellectualizing of all the points, brings brings things full circle ties a nice bow. All right mankind in Arizona. You're on the air
Starting point is 01:52:19 Says it all god, I wish that was the show Oh god, I wish that was the show. Yeah, it kind of is. I mean, well, that's the problem. That's the problem. That was a delight. That was a childish delight filled with people going, I'm feeling, I am alive. It doesn't happen all the time,
Starting point is 01:52:39 but it definitely doesn't not happen. So irregularly, people just doing war cries. I support just generalized joy well like I've somebody called in and did the Hawkeye I'd be like fuck yeah let's do it you know I'm not sure where the literature you can hawk out on the phone but I'm not sure where the literature is this on the in the psychological world sure but I know that for a time primal scream therapy was pretty big it was pretty pretty huge. Maybe Alex. Maybe it would make these people feel a lot better.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Just let it out. Just let it out. Go out in the woods and scream. Ah! Also, I do appreciate the professionalism. He tried to pitch correct. He tried to get it there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Yeah. I was there. Professional. Professional. So we come to the end of this exploration of January 25th, and I believe that, you know, Alex is calling for secession in a way. Right. But it is in the same way that he always has kind of with this
Starting point is 01:53:32 this fantasy notion of we're just going to put a pause on the union for a bit. We're going to get out of it, and then we're going to put it back together the way we want. Humpty Dumpty style. We're going to put it back together. And it's delusional and it's a facilitation and intellectualizing of him wanting an actual hot war with the federal government. It's a way to own that position without owning it. It really like listening to this sometimes it really makes me feel like if I had a time machine I would go back to like eight year old me and be like the rich kid who takes their ball and goes home
Starting point is 01:54:08 they rule the world run go get out of here get out of here every time a rich kid has been like this and you've been like this is not fair and this is the world is wrong and I'm sure what I'm an adult it'll get better it won't mm-hmm mm-hmm so we'll see what happens with this I mean I have no ability to predict where this breaks because I think I think that so much of it is so dependent on like some fairly random happenings, some stuff that we may have no idea about until after the fact, like if some groups are planning some kind of crazy shit. Or just some idiot makes a huge fucking accident and then people you exploit it to however they want to do it.
Starting point is 01:54:49 There's a lot of things that are tense. Yeah. And I think that there's a lot of people who are making it worse. People like Alex, people like that convoy. I think I think that they're escalating and heightening a situation that they has the potential to go bad in a lot of ways. But even if it doesn't, what you are seeing is a large segment of the population celebrating these states thumbing their nose at the federal government and acting like there is no federal government. We are above this. And that has its own set of, you know, dangers.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Because if that is allowed to stand, why would anybody give a fuck about the federal government and never again? Like why would Texas not think that they are their own country except enjoying the large ass of being within the United States, the benefit that comes along with it? Well, here's the problem.
Starting point is 01:55:47 There's two problems. And they work together in the worst possible way, right? So your first problem is in real time, in the real world, all of their, fuck the federal government bullshit, is bullshit. But we just lived through COVID. And you know what? Fuck the federal government.
Starting point is 01:56:05 They fucked up. They fucked up and no one, no one, no one, no one has been held accountable for that. So while I agree with the bite the bullet and say, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, I also think fuck the federal government. That's fine. They earned what they're getting, you know?
Starting point is 01:56:23 And then the problem there is, the problem there is, the person in charge of the federal government at that time was the person doing this shit right now. That's true. And that is why the federal government fucked up, which means that it's not the federal government's fault, it's these fucking dumb-dumbs fault. But let me throw this out at you. Trump became the fucking government. It's the federal government's fault for allowing Trump to become the fucking government. It's part of the government's fault. I agree, and I think that when it...
Starting point is 01:56:55 The way that I would describe it is, your version of fuck the federal government is, there needs to be better oversight, people need to be held responsible for things. Totally. And we need to operate better in a way that takes care of people better right their version of fuck the federal government is I want to shoot federal agents and reconstitute the union in a theocratic fascist fashion right so I think there's a difference even though the words can sound similar sometimes well I think I
Starting point is 01:57:23 think there is the difference though is very fairly simple, right? And it's that you can do mine or you can do theirs. Or there's no. Well, if you do neither, you're going to do theirs. They're going to do theirs. They're going to do theirs to you. That's the point. They are going there.
Starting point is 01:57:39 The option that involves you not solving the problems that you're responsible for. That's what they're there for. That's not what they're there for. Oh, no, no,'re responsible for that's what they're there for That's not what they're there for oh no no no that's not what they're there for right, but that is what no matter what you do It doesn't matter if the federal government. It doesn't matter if it's these people Because of the federal government's General shittiness with co vid and they're not holding anybody accountable for it This will happen. Not just because COVID, but yeah. The scale.
Starting point is 01:58:09 The disillusion with the federal government being able to address the problems that people have. Yeah. Has a tendency towards drawing people towards this. This is where it goes, yeah. You could have done a better job and we wouldn't be here. We might. We might still. That's true. But we can't go back now. So anyway, yeah and we wouldn't be here. We might. We might still.
Starting point is 01:58:25 That's true. But we can't go back now. So anyway, yeah, we will see what happens. Indeed. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do at KnowledgeFight.com. We're also on Blue Sky. We are on Blue Sky.
Starting point is 01:58:36 It's Knowledge Fight. God, I kind of almost want it to be Knowledge underscore Fight. It's so much easier to say from repetition. Weird. Moving back, but until then, I'm Neo, Leo, I'm DZX, Clark, never again shall I allow Alex to squander you belong to the city and now here comes the sex robots Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding well Alex I'm a first-time color I'm a
Starting point is 01:58:59 huge fan I love your work I love you

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