Knowledge Fight - #902: February 21, 2024

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan look in to see how Alex is doing the day after news broke that his creditors have voted to liquidate his assets in his bankruptcy.  Turns out, he's an hour late to the show, but has less outbursts than you might expect.

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Knowledge Fight. No, no, no, no, no, Knowledge Fight.com. Yeah, I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are Dan. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you today. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan, is, man, you know, there's instances where you record an episode and you say something and then it's immediately like,

oh, I think you were right. And we recorded that our last episode. I said that Alex must be selling off his shit because if he was at a gym, there's no reason for that. And then news broke that the creditors have voted for liquidation. Yeah, Alex's bankruptcy hearing. So it looks like he's gonna be selling off all his shit. That'd be that's exciting. It is. That is exciting. It is because I mean there's a whole bunch of elements to this and we won't know Until the hearing in March apparently about the decision on this. So annoying how many fucking hearings there are but

Yeah, that you know that is that is obnoxious. It is what it is But the the thing that's you know really fun about this is it obviously a lot of the studio is assets that will be liquidated Totally, but also info wars.com is a tangible asset that Alex has. I was kind of thinking that too. And so if you're liquidating all of this stuff, the URL might be up for sale. I mean... I gotta try and get infowars.com. I mean, honestly, I think there is a part of me that says, can we have the name info Can we be Infowars? I feel like we should be able to take it. I think we should get it.

And that's why my question was, who is doing the liquidating? Who sells what to whom? I'm not sure. Right? I wonder if we could get a petition.gov thing going on. So if we could be grantedinfowars.com.

I assume it would be like valued higher than the thing that we definitely can't, uh, informwars.com, I assume it would be, uh, like, valued higher than the thing that we definitely can't get, which is the desk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The desk is like $45,000. Jesus Christ! Yeah, in the, uh, in his declaration of assets. Oh my God. So, uh, yeah, we're not gonna get that.

Right. But, uh, yeah, I feel like, I feel like if there's one thing that would be great is if somehow, magically, we get bestowed in for horse.com. I mean, I'm not saying like, here's what I would say like narrative. I'll take planet. I'll take a personal planet. That'd be fine. Narratively speaking, because I'm not trying to influence anybody's behavior. It's none of my business, right? But narratively speaking, if the Sandy Hook families are in control over what can be sold, you know have some influence over what can be given to whom and sold in for what you know Giving us as like a symbolic one dollar info wars calm thing would be the fucking narrative move

It would be fun, but also fun. Yeah, so like you know take us but to move back a tiny bit on this sure You know there is the reality that maybe it could be sold for a ton of money And that would go to the family so again Let that be not trying to influence any behavior only writing the story in a screenplay It's a fantastic Sort of end yeah, yeah, that's the way you do it. Yeah totally totally yeah, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is Well, my bright spot is not this but there is a live-action

Avatar the last airbender. I've seen commercials that just came out for Netflix and I get the sense that it's not good I mean, here's the it is it is what it is I mean, I mean when I was when I watched the other stuff, I was younger. It was for younger people. Now I'm an old man, it's not for me. It's not for old men. But I will say that there's one huge problem with it, and it has nothing to do with anybody, and nothing that anybody could ever have done about it.

And that is that Mako died near the end of the third season of the original cartoon. Mako Sharkwreck? No, if only. Mako was the guy who played General Iroh, but Mako was fucking awesome. Mako was a he was in one of the original... He's an actor not a character. Yeah, yeah, he was in one of the Conan movies. He was one of the... I think I believe he was a wizard for Conan the Barbarian with Arnold. He was in Sidekicks. Okay, great. It was starring Chuck Norris and River Phoenix classic And he just had this voice that could contain so much of that like gravelly gruff

But but also loving and I'd start like he was just amazing and he was given my bright spot is that When he died It was right after he had recorded this kind of send-off for his own character And so when they aired that episode He was already dead and you could almost hear him eulogizing himself in a song for his and it is truly one of like Life's weird beautiful moments. I'd say is this in the show the new one? Yes, not not in the no no this is in the cartoon from 20 years ago.

He's been dead for a long time. I didn't know if maybe they put it into the show. So no, they put a little bit of the melody to the song. But the problem is Mako was so good and so clear and so perfect as the character that you just can't ever make the show without him and it sucks but he's a genius. But overall better than Shyamalan? It's better than Shyamalan. Okay. But I mean it'd be hard to be worse than Shyamalan. That's what I've heard. Yeah. I've not seen any of it.

Never even seen the original. So I have no skin in the game. But yeah I've heard that one's bad. Yeah no I think the the main difference really is just that the original had an interest in Eastern philosophy and this one has none. No interest in it. Yeah. Well, that's unfortunate. But enjoy. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about the 21st. Interesting. That is Wednesday's show, because Alex, the news broke on Tuesday that he's getting a problem.

I have to liquidate everything. He's gonna have to sell everything, yeah. And that's bad news for him. It's pretty bad. Sure. And so I wanted to get a sense of the next day, see how things were going, check in on Alex,

see if he's having a breakdown of any kind, and we'll cover that here today But before we do let's say hello to some new walks. That's great idea. So first It's Ziggy. Oh wait. Hi Ziggy. It's carrot. Thanks for the brand new brain worms the old ones died of starvation Thank you so much. You're an out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you next my partner's name is also Devon she's also an art teacher and was also raised by two moms. Is it possible that your wife has a secret Baltimore boyfriend slash my girlfriend has a secret Chicago husband? Thank you so much. You're in how policy won't I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. That's a shocking series of yeah.

Of similarities. Yeah, I always love a good secret family. Sure. I would. I would have loved that person's apparently in Baltimore. Yeah, we'll find out. Yeah. So next giraffe, stop goofing off and get back to work. Thank you so much. You're now policy. I'm a policy. Thank you very much. Next, my partner got me listening to this podcast and now we mostly communicate and Alex Jones drops. Annie in Kansas. I love you. Thank you so much. You're now policy. I'm a policy. Thank you very much. And Jack from I Used to Be Steve Quayle's mailman. Thank you so much, you and I are Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you, and we have Technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much to, oh no, please don't dig me out of my bunker and eat my ass. That's definitely not a great Friday night for me. parentheses read sarcastically. I did a little, but maybe not enough. Thank you so much, you and I are Technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of hair up, you know all this. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Fuck you.

Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.

Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. That's really what I wanna do. I never wanna out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having bright nouns on here. I'll be better tomorrow. Nah.

Oh, so the 21st. Yes. Alex is, uh, I'm sure he knew all this was probably coming. Yeah, you think, you know, we was probably coming. Yeah, you would think. You know, we, on our last episode we discussed, he was out of studio last Thursday and Friday, and then, you know, he's going to a gym. There's a lot of indications.

He said he was dealing with bankruptcy stuff while he was out of the studio. And so there's, he's been getting into the deep waters of this. And so he knew this, but now the public knows this. And so that usually adds a different layer to Alex's presentation, knowing that there's a public awareness of like,

oh, you're gonna have to sell all of your shit. Right, right, right, right. That desk gone. Yeah, it does seem like it should be a lot harder to say, hey, please give me your money whenever you know you're going out of business sale, essentially, you know, you can deny it, you know, to to the degree you can. Yeah. And you can pretend a lot of things. But once you know that information being other means

you got to play a little bit of defense. Sure. And sometimes that can lead to a heightened theatricality. But in this case, it leads to the show starting and Alex is nowhere to be found. That's not instead we have Chase Geyser the show starting and alex is nowhere to be found that's a good thing instead we have chase geyser alex jones is going to be taking over the broadcast any minute i'm told that half past the hour he's going to be on the air so we are filling in for him it's an awesome opportunity to be on the alex jones show makes me so like that info warriors everywhere

so don't be discouraged the man himself will be in the studio it won't just be me I am very discouraged Harrison how are you doing man no just terrible chase thanks for asking yeah it's funny things awful hey how's your show this morning's like oh the whole world's falling apart they're abducting people's children yeah that's the problem trans ideology and oh yeah it is easy to get blackpilled. Do you feel... A little bit. But you can set yourself a blackpilled person or do you maintain optimism?

You know, it's a constant struggle. I maintain... Here's how I maintain optimism. When people ask, like, are we screwed? You know, is it hopeless? I'm always like, well, I'm not hopeless. I'm not... You know, my cause isn't lost. My family will survive. I've got my strollable food Yeah from my patreon supply calm, baby Can't even answer his own question from a fictitious person right right Empty answer. So you got Chase Geyser sitting in and I do think it's notable like when

Owen was on he had the Knights of the Round Table, the Info Wars Round Table. He asked Chase Geyser's gotta have Harrison there with him. I don't know, maybe he's just not somebody Alex trusts on air by himself. It does feel very JV team right now. Got the training wheels with Harrison Smith. Hanging out with you.

You can't do the big boy show. Maybe on Sundays, but not on the weekday show. I appreciate now the idea that sooner or later, the possibility will arise that Chase and Harrison Smith will wear an Alex Jones costume that they both fit inside. You know, like those horse costumes. Yeah, I do know those horse costumes. But they'll each get one arm, you know,

they'll be side by side. And then the combined neck thickness will make sense Probably yeah, yeah, I wonder it might be more of a multiplication than an addition Thank for their next sure. I don't know Yeah, we made you the exponential growth. So chase is said that it's gonna be half an hour top of the hour half an hour Alex is gonna be in any moment not so much. Oh this is 47 minutes into the show folks I am Chase Geiser temporary host for a little while this morning joined by Harrison Smith it's an honor and a pleasure to be with you Harrison as always Alex Jones will be

back in studio and hosting the show any minute we were just filling in for him while he fights the info war on another front We've got this breaking story that Leticia James is prepared to seize Trump assets including New York City buildings. We're gonna run the clip here in a minute. Oh, oh really? Interesting story about somebody's ass. Yeah, tell me more. Tell me more about assets being stolen. Is that Another front of the info war So Alex is obviously off- air dealing with bankruptcy stuff. He's not able to get to the show. So he comes in in the second hour.

And he comes in and he, because he's covering Trump's bankruptcy stuff, while he's in the middle of a bankruptcy, he feels like what he's doing is gonzo journalism. There is a certain uncannyness to the twin stories that we've watched since we started, you know, like in 2017 when we started, the parallels are kind of really freaky. They're not though. No, they're not.

There's a superficiality that's kind of freaky to them, but the reality underneath the surface is that they're quite different cases. Totally And they're not not similar in any way. Right. That means something. But there is the appearance of like, Oh, assets going to be I think I think it's just both down a lot of money. I think I think what it is is like they're both dealing with consequences. And they're the consequences that they've been delaying for a very long time. Totally. And they're finally catching up.'ve been delaying for a very long time. Totally and they're finally catching up weirdly enough That's some similarity. Yes, yeah Alex talks about this a little bit when he gets gets in the chair Okay

Alright the term Gonzo journalism was coined in around Hunter S. Thompson who just seemed always brought himself into stories That's never been my intention, but I'm pretty much always in the middle Seems to into stories. That's never made my intention, but I'm pretty much always in the middle of whatever stories are going on. Deliver it. Because I wasn't here a couple days last week, and the first hour today is that I'm in intense legal meetings with all of the bankruptcy of free speech systems and my personal bankruptcy all coming to a head here and decide the future of this operation. And we've got Leticia James announcing that she's gonna go ahead and just seize all of Trump's assets before the appeal and

sell it all off. They've put a former Bill Clinton operative in as the receiver to oversee all this and run the Trump companies. Imagine how that feels. Well, that's basically the boat we're in. Oh, okay. Alright. Fear and loathing in the failed attempt at scamming the bankruptcy court. There'd be a bad Hunter S. Thompson book. Yeah. I can say that for sure.

So this isn't Alex being in the middle of stories. It's that he and Trump are both facing legal consequences for the crimes they committed or harms they caused. These are unrelated cases, but because they're both so plainly in the wrong and so deserving of the consequences they're being given, it's really important to hand wave the cases away and delegitimize them as a whole so your audience doesn't even begin to engage with what they're about. A very efficient path to this is just to say that they're both some part of a bigger plan

against the Patriots, which is what Alex is doing. It's wrong and it's manipulative towards the audience, but it's probably the best shot he's got. This is not gonzojournalism. That would be like if Alex went to embed himself with the Trump team but it's probably the best shot he's got. This is not Gonzo journalism. That would be like if Alex went to embed himself with the Trump team as they go through the case, thereby injecting himself into the story, maybe doing a bunch of drugs. Yeah. And stuff, and then making everything up.

You need to do a lot of drugs to make it an interesting story. Yeah. Yeah. When Alex is actually doing here is trying to make the Trump story about himself, because that helps calm the audience into thinking he's the victim in this whole thing and that ain't Gonzo. No. No. I like the idea. I would like somebody to sit him down and just be like, write down everything you think Hunter Estompson did. I would like to know what Alex believes in his mind because you know there's so many legends and different ways of looking at

Hunter Estompson. He had a body of work filled with bullshit. Sure. That was nice. Yeah, and some non-bullshit, but a lot of bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it'd be nice to see what an absolute lunatic would view of something that's almost insane on a neutral front. Hunter S. Thompson was revealing the demons that walk among us. Yeah, but I mean it's like... He was pretending to be on drugs. You know, it's almost a political in a sense of like, yeah, believe whatever you want about Hunter S. Thompson. That guy's great. I think he would have supported that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the idea. Do some drugs. So someone who doesn't do drugs maybe should. This is another shocking parallel to our last episode. Alex had Viva Fry on and we talked about where's Barnes? It turns out Barnes is here. Great! So Alex asked Barnes like this long fucking question. Sure

Their cities are already destroyed, but they just keep doubling down doubling down over Barnes How long has the legal system been this corrupt? And am I wrong to say that as soon as Trump got elected? now Seven years ago that the establishment went totally crazy and said, okay, the left controls most of the courts and most of the judiciary and most lawyers or Democrats, so we're just going to go full Soros model, and we know we have seminars training people how to do this, to weaponize it and militarize it, and now they've done it, but it's totally blowing up in their face.

When I was being given show trials, there was some concern. People were starting to wake up, but now it's epidemic for people waking up. I mean, I go out on the street, and again, I'm famous, the average listener's not, that's great, you're private people. I'm sorry.

Your anonymity. So a lot of negatives come with being well-known, but the good thing that comes with being well-known is, I'm a gauge on how much hate I'm getting. 99% No, you're just 9%. I mean, I probably shook. It's not exaggerate. 5,000 hands the last year. That's a lot of hands. So how do you answer that question? There's a series of questions within it. All right, I don't know how you answer. All right, here's how you answer that question.

Um, a whole bunch. I think what you do is you just say whatever you want to say. Yeah. I think it's just like Alex, you have, you are pretending to ask the question and it's a bunch of statements. Yeah. And therefore I'm going to answer your question with not an answer, but a bunch of statements that I want to make. And then we're just going to move forward. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is a certain amount of like that. Glenn Greenwald interview. There was a deliberate reason that like that. Glenn Greenwald interviewed. There was a deliberate reason that Glenn gave all the answers to his own questions, you know?

Sure, and Alex is certainly doing a little bit of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also noticed that there is like, in that David Ike interview, where Alex asked a month long question and then walked away. Right, right, right. I think he might be engaging in a little bit of that too. Just pre Preloading Barnes, just throw a bunch of shit at him and say, are

you hold court? Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Because this, this section of the show is just wall to wall Barnes. It's almost, it's almost like a sports talk show when they throw to the, the guy who yells about one specific thing for like five minutes and then it's back to the regular old asshole hosts or whatever. You know you know. Yeah. So Barnes is in. You know obviously there's all the pretty standard complaints. Trump's getting jammed up. Oh no. Oh boy those stems and but he does bring up something that I thought like oh that's a little bit out of left field. That's not something we hear about too much. So let's enjoy that. Here's a media star Bobby Barnes. All right. And while all of this is going on in terms of President Trump,

in terms of Julian Assange, in terms of political freedom in America, we have the case like Amos Miller in Pennsylvania. That next Friday, I'm going to be in a hearing in Lancaster County where they are trying to completely shut down this Amish farmer to issue an injunction that would prohibit him from feeding his own pigs, his own food, from his own farm. Is he a gangster? What is happening? Is he feeding people with these pigs? That's a real

story. From being able to give it to those people who need it, but from feeding his own family, from feeding his own pigs. So yeah, this, like I said, this section of the show is a lot of Barnes. Yeah, it's Alex Popson a little bit, but he's just letting Barnes ramble and bamble. Yeah. So he brings up this case here about Amos Miller, this Pennsylvania Amish man who's just being jammed up by the feds being jammed up. If you hear Barnes tell the story, this is just an utter case of injustice. How can he possibly this be happening? You know why a man's not allowed to feed his pigs as easy as fit oh in the real world Miller was selling products like raw milk

across state lines and not following food safety guidelines which led to his products being site tied to multiple cases of E. Coli sure yeah he doesn't have a license to sell these goods across state lines Miller's been on the state radar since 2016 when Listerio was found in the milk that he sold and they did a biological analysis and found that it was likely that it caused at least two cases of Listeriosis, one of which was fatal. Sure.

In 2023, Miller and the state reached an agreement which he then went on to ignore. So Pennsylvania sued him to halt the sales of raw milk and all that in January 2024. This isn't an instance of state oppression. It's a serious food safety issue and one that the state tried to bend over backwards to accommodate this guy on.

There were so many warnings and non-punishments even after his milk likely killed someone. He's been steadfast in his unwillingness to follow safety guidelines but his willingness to pretend like he will in order to get out of trouble. And Bobby Barnes is his lawyer. So I wouldn't expect this to be any kind of success in court. But if you just want someone to yell on your behalf, maybe getting a little bit of juice on Info Wars, having some people get mad about this, maybe the guy will use some alliteration.

Barnes is your guy. Yeah, I mean, okay, so there's only two reasons to hire Barnes at this point, right? There's either you got conned by Barnes and convinced that Barnes will help you do a thing that is absolutely not possible. Or you got conned by Barnes and convinced that Barnes will help you do a thing that is absolutely not possible. Or you got conned by the larger media ecosystem that makes it look like Barnes actually did good work for these cases that he's done. Right. Or you think that by getting media star Bobby Barnes you can get donations, right?

Like those are the, it's fundraising and it's fun stealing. Or you think that maybe he'll have a legal strategy that will annoy the court so much that things just get dropped or something. Right, but I mean, I feel like that's being conned too. Maybe. Yeah, but I mean, not that it hasn't worked. Not that it hasn't worked. Sure.

I don't think it's a good idea. Yeah. I think you'd be better off without him as your lawyer, but I don't know. Yeah, so, but that is such an interesting question for me because people do hire Barnes and Patis in like real world. People might not be hiring Patis much these days. That's a good point.

Might not be able to practice. But they do, and even living in this alternate reality, believing Barnes is a good lawyer seems too far from me. He has decent branding in this space. That's fair. I don't know. I think how much do you know about the success rate or you know decent quality of any lawyer really.

Should we're that's fair. That's fair. I mean you know is the quality of a lawyer. I don't know. So Barnes has a reaves in the devil's fair. That's fair. I mean, you know, is the quality of a lawyer. I don't know. Yeah. So Barnes has the honor Reeves in the devil's advocate. That's the only good lawyer I've ever thought that you're quoting that. No, no, no. Okay. So Barnes has some ideas about the, the informant who got arrested for making shit up about Biden. Oh, right. Right. Right. That guy. Yeah. So Alex doesn't bring this up, but Barnes tosses, tosses a little bit of a side on this. Okay.

They're busy indicting their own informants who because those informants ratted out Joe Biden by claiming that it's another Russia gate, another Russian conspiracy that any allegation against Joe Biden must just be from Russia. That the Russian nukes in space and then Navalny wasn't working to get that 68 billion to the deep state money laundering machine known as Zelensky in Ukraine. And so now they're resorting to even more desperate measures and desperate attempts. And that's the great risk that we face is we have an incompetent deep state. So this is how you do it in the conspiracy world. You know that your favorite politician

and God King is deeply corrupt. So you have a desperate need to make the opposing politician look equally corrupt or possibly more so. Some information comes along that looks good for your purposes, so you jump on it and make it central to your coverage of presidential politics. This is what happened

with the Hunter Biden and Barisma story. It came along and it became the focus of right-wing media. It was the perfect deflection from the copious stories about Trump doing crazy corrupt illegal things. You could just say that Biden was running a money laundering operation through Ukraine and through his son. Boom. No need to address anything about Trump. That's great and they all had a real fun time doing it. But unfortunately the person responsible for providing that information You know those claims are based on got arrested by the FBI for making it all up Yeah, there is that and to make matters worse this guy Alexander Smirnov has

Admitted since being arrested that quote officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing along that story Sure, sure, this all looks real bad Why cuz Republicans in Congress ran with this information and there's an open question if they knew it was faulty, at what point they knew it was faulty. But from a Barnes and Info Wars standpoint, this news presents a different challenge. How do you use the basic details of what happened to reinforce the existing narratives that you've built on this fraudulent information? Maintaining those narratives is still important, even if the foundation they're built on this fraudulent information. Maintaining those narratives is still important, even if the foundation they're built on is very suspect, so you need to zoom the

conspiracy out a little bit. You can see how Barnes achieves this by pretending that Smirnoff was arrested because he said bad things about Biden, as opposed to the reality that he got caught making up demonstrably false things about the Biden family. By using this one little twist of make-believe, Barnes is able to hold on to the precious narratives that mean so much to him, like at the end I was able to call Ukraine a money laundering operation for Biden. You know, you still retain that,

and you're not threatened by the reality coming out. Yeah. This is often how conspiracy works. When the narrative that isn't that, like it's not that important, if you have a narrative that's just not all that important, it's not central. If that is debunked or becomes difficult to maintain

It's just ignored and then you pretend it was never important to begin with yeah Maybe you didn't even say it we've seen countless examples of this in our time doing the show And you're able to do this because the audience is always willing to be distracted by the seemingly important big new bombshell You got yeah, so I every episode Alex a show is called big breaking you got. So every episode of Alex's show is called Big Breaking Emergency Broadcast Report Bombshells. So you can do all that stuff and like distract away like and just be like hey that we didn't do that that wasn't that wasn't part of our worldview or whatever when the narrative isn't important. Right. But when the narrative is actually important to something structural in your storytelling

when it's debunked you need to broaden the conspiracy out. The fact that your information is wrong is proof that you're actually right. They're all saying that this guy was arrested for making up shit to the FBI but that's just a cover for why he was really arrested which is because he was blowing the whistle on Biden and threatening the money laundering operation. This is the the sort of taking it back another level and it's because certain things are critically important to the infrastructure of the Infra Wars narrative environment. Yeah.

You have like the need to make Biden the most corrupt person ever. You have to invalidate the Ukraine war and support Putin's side of it. So these things are necessary. And even when the legs are cut out from under it, you need to still like, okay, let's just broaden the conspiracy.

Let's go on another layer up, right? I think isn't this kind of like a the peas already in the pool situation if that makes sense. You know what I mean like The narrative is not going like it almost it almost fits like they should if the narrative is true Then they should be charging this guy in retaliation. Yeah, yeah, it raises the question why that didn't happen years ago. Totally, but you know, that can be waved away, you know. Oh, now we've just brought enough attention to it

and all that stuff. But like it fits in the story if you are. So yeah, so it's like the peas in the pool kind of thing. But that's the issue with the way that these, you know, this stuff can just be done on the fly. Right. Right. Right. Ah, inconvenient. Let's write around it. Right. Right. Right. And in a, in a just spy novel-ish kind of thing, sure, this guy got arrested because he was shit talking Biden. Absolutely. And he's got a connection to Russia. It all makes sense somewhere along the line. Yeah So, you know Trump has got all this this shit that's going down with him

Alex has got the all this shit going down with him and they're basically the same What info wars is going through is a Smaller model of what President Trump's going through so I'm very thankful for you all standing with us They're tying Trump down with hundreds of lawsuits. Was it five, six criminal indictments? Where he's got a constant show up all this crap. And coming up next month, I've got some hearings in federal court, the bankruptcy

that make a bunch of decisions have legal meetings. I had to go deal with bankruptcy stuff last week for two days. I had to deal with this of decisions, have legal meetings, I had to go deal with bankruptcy stuff last week for two days. I had to deal with it this morning. And I don't let the enemy win. I know this is what Trump's doing. I then come in and do extra shows at night and special reports and Saturday shows. We'll be doing a Sunday show forever just to counter that. I'm not going to let them win, but Trump's like 78 years old, man.

And you've only got to admire his stamina, his energy, his fortitude. He's certainly not perfect, none of us are, but our shared enemies are coming after President Trump, and he needs your support. And quite frankly, so does him for war. Yeah, it's easier to bundle these things together and make them the same and then feel the same and it's just not I honestly it's it's kind of ridiculous to have a situation where Alex thinks that he needs more content yeah like that's that's ridiculous your your solution to not letting the enemy win is making more shows you too much as is no no we need

to put geyser on the air for another hour well that'll stop up the only thing that makes kind of sense about that is like, that show has a time that it is going to be on. Sure. If Alex can't be there for that, someone's got to do it. Sure. But that doesn't mean you then have to do an hour later, you know, with some kind of special report,

which I honestly don't think he's doing. No. No, no, no. But my demand is, if you're going to do that, do the fucking painting show. Do the painting show. That's what the people want. That's what we all want yes now I mean I really think legacy wise like whenever people in history will judge if a if a late

career turn is to become Bob Alex Jones Ross sure it'll be controversial for a minute it will be so scandalous like when Dylan went electric. Totally, but it would be worth it. In the long run, you persevere, you become the next Jackson Pollock. I mean, think of the second, you know that everybody in America loves second chances. Yes. There's no greater second chance than to go from right wing propagandist that works for a literal virus to a guy who paints on the TV. Real chill like, too. Yeah. Calm.

Yeah. Painting by candlelight, perhaps even. Oh, my God, that would be so fun. That would be nice. It's not going to happen, unfortunately. No, no, no, no, no. So there's a lot of shit that's going on in the world, and maybe there's even some backlashes

to Trump's judgment that are happening. Okay. Just like the truckers are not gonna deliver to New York, just like the businesses are pulling on New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, California, Washington, Oregon, Illinois. There's still a lot of good people in those states folks, but they're run by absolute crazed demons.

Yes, the idea of a trucker strike to New York is ridiculous. It's gotten a lot of folks like in a shit head Trump type media talking, but it's not happening. No. It got all this hype on Twitter. I was supposed to start on Monday and it would show New York for daring to prosecute Trump, but then nothing happened.

Even the Twitter user who started the whole thing, a guy named Chicago Ray, who's ironically from Wisconsin, made some posts trying to backtrack and disassociate himself from like, I didn't do this. I wasn't, I wasn't trying to get a trucker strike going. You know, there are some issues with, with some truckers not wanting to go to New York, but it's not because of Trump. I am not surprised Chicago Ray from Wisconsin does not want to take responsibility for his current situation. I'm guessing he probably wasn't the only person talking about these things. You know, you're saying like, I heard some buzz on the, you know, breaker breaker.

That's all not going to New York. Is a Trump. I like that. I like the too many smokies in New York. That's that is like an old timey war. Like not old timey, like, ancient 3000 years ago war war tactic of like we're going to cut off supplies to the city We're gonna siege an entire state with just random ass truckers deciding well I assume it's the city not the state you'd still get

Buffalo's fine everybody Yeah, I mean it was fun and it was exciting to talk about like, oh, they're going to get it for prosecuting Trump. But come on, man. What I find interesting about that is if truckers were as a single group capable of cutting off a service to one state or one city, they would be almost unstoppable, right? Like, there's no fucking with them. I mean, if they proved that they could not, if they proved they could just not deliver stuff to New York City, that would be the end of America.

I think it would, and it might lead to some very serious conversations, but having to like nationalize. We have to start a war with truckers? Is that what's about to happen? Yeah. Ha ha ha ha. I, I, I, I appreciate the way that Alex is trying to have some fun. Sure. But this is, this is not going anywhere.

Probably difficult. So Alex has got a headline that he's bringing into the fold. And the final equation, everything coming out of Hollywood, everything coming out of the corporate media, everything coming out of DC, it was destroying you and your family. So it's real simple You can study this 24-7 like I do and find it all the time to be a super expert at it Or you can just realize everything you've ever been told to lie about these people and they're out to get you

And whenever they say don't leave a damn word of it. I mean it's real simple and trust to know I got one more article. I want to hit here and then I'm going to your calls You look I've beat a dead horse on this If you want to know if your government's out to get you all you got to know is this okay Biden killed the Keystone pipeline that would have cut gas prices 50 cents on average what it created hundreds of thousands of jobs after it was built 50 cents on average what it created hundreds of thousands of jobs after it was built He banned all new oil exploration gas he cut did he off thousands of permits repair pipelines around country so much to hear that I would be so happy mining weekly comm India gets 40 bids for commercial coal mines So America can't use coal America can't mine coal

So America can't use coal, America can't mine coal, but India is now surpassed China in production. Another thing against the Indians, I just want us to have a few jobs. And so our companies have moved there where they get cheap energy and coal. And they go, oh, we can't burn it here, it's bad for the environment. India doesn't have scrapers on their coal fired plants. You look at one of our coal powered plants or Europe's. I mean, it's a big complex building with all these tubes, tubes, nothing comes out but water vapor and carbon dioxide. It's clean as a whistle. It's clean. Why are you saying any of this? So that's all nonsense. But this isn't a situation where there are new coal mines in India. Sure. Previously, these mines

were under the control of the government, but they were auctioned off to private owners. That's the story here. So Alex can pretend that we don't have coal mines in the United States, but that's just not true. We're number four in the world by that metric, only behind China, India and Indonesia. And China is ahead by quite a margin. Right.

I imagine so. Our coal power plants are not clean. And Alex actually forgot. He said scraper there. Yeah. Right. I imagine so. Our coal power plants are not clean. And Alex actually forgot he said scraper there. He always says scrubber. Yeah. That's a kind of whiffed his own narrative. I noticed that one. And I know that Alex has a headline there, but shouldn't he be aware that India paused any plans for new coal plants? Like for five years last summer, they announced that last summer, they're choosing to focus on building up renewable energies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This story about the sale of coal mines may result in some increase of mining output, but that doesn't change the fact that India's on the path towards clean energy, having announced plans to reach zero emissions by 2070 and half of that goal by 2030. Now, while they're doing that, they have said that they're not going to abandon coal

as things build up. Sure, sure.. And certainly there are complaints to be made about the energy situation in India, but they did say last year, five year pause on any new coal power plants being built. Yeah. Hey, I don't know if you want more minds, if you if you want more minds in 2024, you've got a lot of things to do. I don't know what to tell you. Well, I think but here's the here's the issue. Yeah. Alex is pretending we don't have any. Right. Right. Right. Right. But he's pretending that the US has some kind of a moratorium

or ban on mind. Sure. As opposed to like, well, actually saying that we want more. No, I mean. He's denying the reality that does exist. Yeah, we've, they've sold off more land to more mines in the United States. Biden has deliberately done that, despite having said he wouldn't.

Well, so. Look, energy is important, sure, whatever. So anyway, Alex lies about this India article in a way that is actually very point out to bowl. So the left who's in bed with the globalist and has all the factories they forcibly move everything overseas where there's no environmental controls, kill all our clean stuff. And it's for the earth. It's just if people had a basic understanding of energy, they would know this wasn't true.

New Delhi. India's received a total of 40 bids for some of the 32 commercial coal mines that were available for auctioning in December. The government has a statement on Monday adding the bids will be open February 20th. The world's largest or second largest coal user after China. And they're boosting it and building more coal power plants. We cannot compete. You can hear here Alex trying to cold read this article, but it doesn't match the rant

that he's just gone on. He gets bored while reading it because the words are actually about auctioning off existing coal mines, not creating new ones, and as he's reading it, he just decides to bail. If he'd gotten a little bit further, he would have found this article say something that he could use, and that his quote, output from mines auctioned to private companies, is expected to boost production of coal by over 40%. So he could use that, that would be useful, but nowhere in the article does it say

they're building more coal power plants. Alex is making that up because he needs this article to say that. This is the whole reason he was drawn to the headline in the first place because the infor's narrative is that other countries are making tons of new coal plants, but the globalists won't let the US do that

because they want us to have no energy. Alex is reading along and then pauses because he realizes this article doesn't work for that very specific purpose He immediately starts injecting his own narrative saying quote They're boosting it and building more coal power plants. He's making that up But this article has enough of the appearance on the topic. It looks like it's right so he can get away with it This is one of Alex's big tricks. And if you pay attention and consult his sources, you'll see that he does this all the time to distort reality so it comports with the narrative reality

that is more important. Right. It's quite a game. If I was in control of basic understanding of energy, I would say we should focus on alchemy. I think we should return back to alchemy. Okay. I think I mean, and honestly, I think knowing what I do know about physics now, we're more likely to get the ability to transform one element

into another via the manipulation of protons than we are to get clean coal. Based on some of the like, ways Alex has ranted about the observer effect and various things like that, I think you probably would think that Alchemy works. I mean I'm sure that we could probably figure something out that looked like Alchemy. It looked like it. I think that would be a lot of fun. We could distract Alex. I think we currently have something that looks like Alchemy and that's spraying something, some gold paint on something. Okay, so I've got a con for Alex. I think we can do this. I think we can pull this up. Now some people will tell you this is Fool's Gold. We are

going to sell Alex on Alchemy being real. That is our next goal. All right. Okay. I mean, look, he's gonna need to find some new revenue streams. Yeah, absolutely. We're gonna come in there. We're gonna sell them the monorail and we're gonna move forward. And we'll give you all of this gold. All of this gold. All you have to do is do a painting show. That's all you have to do.

We needed an initial investment of you doing a painting show. We'll pay you in all of this gold. Well, it's actually not gold right now, but we'll turn it into gold. It'll eventually be gold. But you gotta do the painting show. So Alex does get to calls. Yes. And he takes a call and some grandma and it

bums me out. But Alex says something that I found to be particularly offensive here. It's just horrible. They've been for years now, you know, 25 years, 30 that I know well, they've been brainwashing washing our children that have, you know, gone to school. And it's so sad. It just makes me wonder about my granddaughter and how things are gonna be for her. Well, just talk to her about the world, let her know up front there's evil people

and control the government, explain what they're gonna try. So she'll know ahead of time when they try it. Yeah, I try, I try. Believe me, I don't keep my mouth shut. And I talk to friends and and you know everybody I can You know, but it's hard to find like-minded people I've been listening to you for 20 years and and I just appreciate you I can't even tell you how much you've affected you know my life and

Lean I appreciate you and I'm gonna still I'm gonna stay on there as long as I can and God bless you But if they kill me or put me in prison or shut me down appreciate you and I'm gonna still stay on here as long as I can and God bless you. But if they kill me or put me in prison or shut me down, there's a big body of our work out there and it's evergreen because what I talked about 10 years ago is down here. I talked about 20 years ago is down here. What I talked about today will be happening in two years. So this body of work, this testament, this information is there and I'm not saying they're gonna shut us down but it's all in God's plan but just remember the

body of work and our guests and our crew is there save it to hard drives keep it there because as things get worse and worse this information will become more and more powerful as people realize how dead on it was thank you sweetheart it's incredibly not dead on and I might have saved his work to our drive. Yeah. So that will live on. But what he's expressing is fundamentally what I wish to not come to pass is that people ignore the reality of what his work actually is and create this image that his legacy is some kind of body of, oh, he was a prophet. He was so right about everything. No, no, absolutely not. This is nonsense. And he's, he's telling this, this distraught

grandma, this kind of like my legacy will live on. And you know, this will save your grandchildren when you show them the big, oh my God, Alex was so right about this in advance. Go back to like, any year, anyone, yeah, any single one of them. It's now I often ruminate about this because it's such a fascinating thought experiment. Yeah. And that is take something from the past. And imagine asking Alex, what did you say about this? And I

guarantee nine times out of 10, he has no idea what he said not about various events that happened over history Because it was what was useful in the moment what was needed in the moment. It's not it's You know, obviously he's gonna say everything was fucking globalist related. Yeah, probably most things are fake Yeah, but the specific details of stuff. It's in it's in out the mouth and gone. Yeah. I think what I find so interesting about that and the type of person that Alex is is that even in that conversation, the quest is just to make it over the bar of what you'll accept. You know what I mean? I am as consistent as what it'll take for you to move on from this conversation.

What did you think about that guy? Well, whatever is enough to get past this. You know, there's no like, oh, here's where I am. It's only here's the bar that I am trying to clear in this moment. I would argue that Alex is saying that he is the greatest. That clip. Well, he's saying that he's so ahead of his time. And that's why you need all this shit from the past to tell you about the greatest. Well, he's saying he's saying that he's so ahead of his time and that's why you need all this shit from the past to tell you about the present. It's nonsense. I'm

always fascinated by school's brainwashing children. Because like when I was in school, they were brainwashing children, right? And we all knew that because our parents were telling us that. And the right wing radio at the time was telling us that. Right? It's happened. Right, but when my parents were kids, the schools were brainwashing them.

And we know that because all the parents were saying that. And the right-wing radio was saying all that stuff. But what was crazy is that when their parents were in school, the schools were brainwashing them, all right? And we know that because of, that's what all the parents were saying. There is a function of this that is this damn new generation. There is a function of it that definitely goes that path.

But then there's another part of it that is not even generational, and it is just a fundamental opposition to public schooling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's- That's one of the biggest parts of just like, this is not homeschooling, I have no control over what my child is hearing,

and it's not Jesus is the only thing that you hear. Yeah, yeah, there's, we're filling the blank with Jesus and it'd be like some kind of weird interpretation of the past that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. But yeah, that is pretty consistent and it's usually nonsense. But I look back on my youth and in school and feel like everybody hated school.

Most people hated school, or at least it was a nuisance. Whatever brainwashing that was attempting to go on, it was not effective. People learned stuff, and the school was lucky if you showed up. I think that's what I'm so interested by in a lot of these stories about the next generation is something that I don't understand, which is that a lot of them seem to believe that adults and like authorities on their side, which is a brand new concept to me. Like when I was growing up, I remember being like,

okay, whether or not I like or dislike has nothing to do with it. These people are the enemy, because they are trying to keep me from doing the things that I wanna do, right? They're trying to keep me from fun and having recess all day or whatever. Right, so I don't, I mean, like I understand

that they have all their own ideas, and that's great for them And it's awesome, and I'd love to learn and in hindsight you recognize that like a lot of them were caring a lot more About you and your well-being that you could have experienced at the time Totally all of that is all of that is true, but they were still the enemy right right and a lot of the kids a lot of the kids Like my wife telling me about school is like they expect us to help them which is Fucking amazing to me. Mm-hmm. What is that like to believe that as a child that adults are like gonna help facilitate things for you?

Probably brainwashing. Yeah probably. So we get another caller and this person has a complaint about San Francisco. What do you think about the Chinese nationalists who just got elected to the elections board in California? You know I meant to play that clip on Monday and Tuesday. I forget her name. you think about the uh... chinese nationalists who just got elected to the uh... elections board in california you know i meant to play that clip on monday and tuesday i forget her name but it shows her name on the news she's a chinese national basically the legal alien who's on the election board now

and that's all just them pissing our face and it just shows all these blue states and blue cities are letting the aliens vote remember that was a lot of years ago yeah, it's all about election fraud and even though the illegals don't vote right away They're counted the census so the blue states get more congressional Seats we talked about that. That's a load of shit, but that is Such an interesting way to be like alright. Look this whole Undocumented immigrants voting thing. We're not able to substantiate that. We can't really back that up.

So we need a secondary backup narrative to make this, oh, even if you don't accept this, we've got this one for you. And that's a sign of poor work. But this is about a woman named Kelly Wong who was sworn in as a member of San Francisco's Election Commission Board. She's not a citizen, but she's been in the U.S. legally since 2019 when she came here as a grad student. You

don't have to be a citizen to be in that position in California, which was a decision that was made by voters in 2020. What for? They voted on it. How do they do that? With the ballots. Interesting. Oh, but Alex would probably say that it was stolen. No, I'm pretty sure that it was the deep state. Yeah, I guess it probably was. But leaving that on the side, the state decided that you didn't have to be a citizen to be in this role. Yeah. Um, that doesn't mean that an undocumented immigrant or someone who's not here legally could be in that position.

Yeah. But, uh, if you're a legal resident non-citizen, why wouldn't you be able to be on the board? Uh, I'm going to go out on a limb board? I'm gonna go out on a limb. I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm gonna say, Alex would not like that because he's holding up a sign that says, white's only. Just throwing that out there.

And you know what? I think that there is like a knee jerk reaction that you can have that's like, okay, she can't vote, but she's on the election board, right? Right, right. And you have like this response to it that's like, how can that possibly be? And I think you can sit with that for a little while and recognize that's not that weird.

That's not, that doesn't preclude you from being in that position. The only reason you would do that is if you're just overwhelmed by some combination of racism and xenophobia, you assume because she's from Hong Kong that she must be a spy. Right, right. And she's going to corrupt the elections just by her presence, as opposed to being an advocate for communities and legal voting and shit. Right, right.

Yeah, I like the idea that people see that contradiction of like, oh, she can't vote and she's on the elections board and not think there's something wrong with the system as opposed to like, well, clearly we've made a mistake with her, you know? It should have been like, well, what if whoever wrote that system clearly had no idea

that we could wind up in a situation like this and it doesn't make sense. Uh-huh, right. Well, sure. that system clearly had no idea that we could wind up in a situation like this and it doesn't make sense. Uh huh. Right. Well, sure. I mean, I don't know if I know all of the externalities of it or anything, but it seems to me that having, you know, permanent residents be able to vote, I don't know why that's not

necessarily something that could be explored. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you're talking about America and voting, it's always important to remember that voting has only been available for most people for the past like 50 years or so. Sure. You know?

So like... That is an aspect of things. It could totally just be an artifact of like, well, actually women can't vote as to why this is happening. Yeah, there's a debate to be had about what exactly is inciting this, but it's probably all of it. Yeah. So this guy thinks this caller who's brought up this, this Kelly Wong situation believes it to be unconstitutional. Okay. I'm listening. All right. And so Alex then decides like, let's shift this topic.

Okay. Guys, I see you in the clip two days ago, we just pulled the video up by saying you have And so Alex then decides like let's shift this topic. Okay Guys, I see you the clip two days ago. We just pull the video up. I sent you of a Kelly Wong being sworn in If I'm not mistaken, that's just unconstitutional on its face. Is it not they're doing it on yeah, two men having a baby doesn't exist X and Y chromosomes are real. No, no, I mean, no, no, I mean, I'm serious. It's about San Francisco, let's illegal aliens vote and it's. And again, the Justice Department will not prosecute it. Okay, sure. The interesting thing there is this, this tossing out of the transphobic jabs, you know, like, Alex seems to think that he's making a point saying like being trans is unconstitutional or something, which is strange, but I think it is what he believes.

Yeah, probably. I mean, but of course, whether or not it is sincerely constitutional or unconstitutional in their belief system does not matter. What matters is that it should be in the Constitution. You know what I'm saying? Emotionally it is. Like yeah, like when you read the Alabama State Supreme Court thing on embryos, you go, oh, well, it doesn't matter what anything says. This is what they think should be in the Constitution. Right. So that's what they're going to write is in there. Whether or not it is

or is not, is a problem for other people to deal with. Right, and I honestly, you know, obviously I think that having a position that is, you think something should be in the Constitution is not wrong on its face. Probably shouldn't be the state Supreme Court though. Well, the things that they're angling towards, I disagree with, and I think that they're wrong and bad. The issue is when you have something that's like,

is something that you think should be in the Constitution and you pretend it is. Right. That to me is where there's a breakdown of, like, what you're doing is like this advocacy towards the state that you wish things were in. Right, right, right. And instead of being honest about that,

you're saying like, that actually is how things are. Right. And we're wrong for it not being like that. And that pretend is like, it's disorienting and no good. Yeah, I think that's why a lot of people have such a struggle with communicating in this kind of space. And a lot of people get the wrong idea of like, oh, these people believe that it is in the Constitution.

And it's like, you're missing the mark entirely. It doesn't matter. What matters is that they are going to behave as if it is, regardless. Even if you pull up every single word, show it to them, they'll go, sure. And then when you're away from them, they'll go, and guess what we're gonna do?

The same thing we were doing when you weren't here. It doesn't matter, yeah. It's a method with a deception. And it's just, you weren't here. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's it's a method with a deception. Yeah. And it's just I don't know. Yeah, it's no good. So Alex plays a clip of Kelly Wong here and the conveniently translates it. It's just what can they do to you to break your will? What can they do to you to just overwhelm you where you'll accept anything? This is a process of normalcy bias, conditioning you to give up.

Learned helpful since. Don't do it. Go ahead and roll the clip. Here it is. 就算你不是公民 也可以去做委員去影響政策的 很多事其實會很大 not great. Sure. I'm gonna go with that is not what she said. That's not one of her big positions. No, she's more focused on things like assuring language access for people who primarily speak other languages so they're not impeded from voting. Oh, but she is also involved with an organization that advocates for non citizen residents permanent residents being able to vote in like local elections, whatever people like. See, I think he's misleading a little bit. Alex is drawing up opposition to her position

based purely on racism and xenophobia. And this kind of thing is having results. This is from the San Francisco standard about her becoming part of the board. Quote, Wang pushed back against the xenophobic and anti-immigrant narratives that conservatives have placed on her.

Chinese for affirmative action also confirmed that the organization has been receiving many anti-Chinese and racist attacks in the wake of Wang's appointment. And that's what Alex wants. He knows that California voted and decided they wouldn't bar immigrants from these positions and that he lost. You lost that conversation. The recourse that he has left is attempting to incite intimidation towards her in the hopes that people just withdraw from public life And stop trying to make a difference right that's the that's the aim of doing coverage like this is inciting harassment towards her in order to You know subvert The channels that you failed on yeah

California voted there's nothing barring her from being in that position. You just want to make her in more in danger. Yeah, I It shouldn't be surprising Considering how much of the rest of America's past is is present, you know But like the Chinese exclusionary act language being read aloud in 2024 is not something I was expecting. Yeah, you know, you had to expect that. We're doing transcontinental railroad shit right now. Like that's bananas. Well, sure. But it catches on, you know, the right wing. I mean, you folks, they're they're into it. So Alex gets another caller and this guy's got an interesting theory about how they're gonna, they're gonna keep Trump out of office or something. Okay. All right. John and Massachusetts, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hey, Alex. Welcome. First time caller. Thank you for all you do. Long time supporter. You guys have

the best product. Thank you. You make the comment in the past or all the time about how they cannot steal the election if it's a landslide. And I'm going to explain one possible scenario that nobody has ever talked about, but you have to think of it this way. So if the election happens tomorrow, and Donald Trump wins, he wins every single state. There's ballots falling from the sky. There's boxes filled with ballots with his name all over them. You see where I'm getting at? Yes. So these people that are putting the ballot in the boxes, they all they're going to do is change the name to Donald Trump's name. He wins the election. Oh, wait, whoa,

there's elections brought here. This guy's a criminal. He's an election denier. What? They're going to false flag election fraud him. They're going to frame him. Yeah. If he wins, they'll they'll claim it's fraud by Trump. That's a good. I love it fraud here they're gonna frame yeah if he wins they'll they'll claim it's fraud by Trump that's a good I love it they're just gonna change the names on the ballot but his name there and they're not gonna turn it over I mean you can see that they don't seem to care you're gonna roll out that's an interesting idea I haven't really thought of that thanks for making me think of that ridiculous theory.

All right, all right. Now, before you let me, all right, I'm gonna say one word and I want you to just hear it, absorb it, but don't react, okay? Just hear it, absorb it, don't react, and then I'll continue on, okay? Cause your instinct is gonna be, you're gonna wanna react and you're gonna wanna like shut me down or anything, okay?

So I'm just gonna say one word, all right, and then just don't I'm listening all right Dracula right I hear you that's the only word I want to say okay thanks for making me think about that I just I think that they're overthinking this but I mean if you have if you have this kind of a What about? What about? Where is the... But I mean, if you have this kind of a mentality and you're willing to go this far, then like, you're basically fine if Trump does steal the election somehow. Well, sure.

Because you would just blame it on the other people. I mean, there's just... Great. There is no possible outcome where Trump doesn't win in their mind. And that's fantastic and I'm glad there's elaborate theories about how any kind of empirical evidence can be distracted from and made to look like a false flag voter fraud. I do, yeah. It is like when you listen to something like this, it is always interesting when people

are like, how do you, how do you come in? How do you bring somebody back from that? And like, did you not hear this man said that we're going to secretly steal the stolen election by lying about how he stole it? And then we stole that from him. There's a couple of possible roads this goes down. And so one of them is all of these fake ballots are there, right?

Right and oh, it looks like Trump's gonna win. We better write his name on all these fake ballots Sure, that's one road you go down, right? Or the second road is it's all a plan and these names are the Trump's names on the ballot to begin with and they're false Flagging it making it look like a giant landslide in order to invalidate the election. Right. That seems over complicated. Right. Here's the main problem with all of these plans that these people come up with, right?

They're dumb. Well, there's that. There's definitely that. There's a strong possibility of that. Right. A through line. Overly complicated. A through line, you might say.

But what's important about all of these plans is that there are variables that they still leave uncontrolled for whatever reason. What do you see in this one? Like they can control every possible variable, but in so doing, they leave open the possibility of a variable going the wrong way for them. You know, like, OK, so here's what we've got. If Trump wins the election, then we will frame him for election fraud. Makes absolutely no sense.

Sure. That's a bad plan. Just do the thing. And these meddling info warriors are just going to screw it up anyway. Absolutely. You know, absolutely. You're not going gonna control for that. You've got a brilliant Massachusetts guy here. I'm informing Alex of this crazy genius scheme. Absolutely. You can't have that. No, no. Maybe this guy is a false flag from the globalist trying to make Alex think wild conspiracies. Yes, it is. It is always that they have like

there has to be some sort of like well this could go either way Hmm, otherwise the otherwise it doesn't make any fun. It's not any fun as a conspiracy Otherwise, they just win you know if the plan is we're gonna frame Trump This is how we're gonna do it and then we'll do it well here I think that this is one of the things to that that kind of gives you the sense that The elections being stolen is more important to them than Trump winning. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because even if Trump wins, there needs to be these built-in stories about how everything is invalid.

Right. And part of that is to make it more likely that you'd support Trump being dictatorial. Totally. Well, I think- Eroding the democratic needs. I think what the Tucker-Putin interview should teach us, which is really interesting, is this idea of like, the strongman is no longer important,

is no longer necessary. You are, for whatever whatever reason telling me a history lesson. I'm using you, right? That idea that that idea of these people are not voting for Trump because Trump has a governing policy or anything along those lines. They're voting for Trump because Trump is going to hurt bad people. Right. The people that they feel are bad. Right. But I mean, you know what I'm? That's what I mean. Not from an objective outside of some point. Trump's a weapon.

So they're voting for whomever is going to hurt those bad people. They're voting for the hurt bad people option. Not Trump hurt bad people. Sure. So it doesn't matter who's land is so strong in that in people's minds in this audience's mind and there is like You know you can you can say it's a like a placeholder and whatever, but I don't know I don't think it's a placeholder I think what it is and why people don't understand what Trump's actual Holding power is is that Trump is the one most likely to say he's going to hurt bad people and then do it.

You know, like every other- You didn't lock up Hillary. No, but you know, of course not, because none of them are ever gonna do any of that stuff, but it feels like he's the one who's going to do it. If you vote for Jeb Bush, Jeb Bush can say, I'm going to lock up my political enemies, but you're like, hey listen, when you get into office, you're gonna be like George Bush. That's who you are. I honestly would be a little bit more worried that the vape would follow through.

See, well, that's also there. Yeah, that's definitely possible. But the vape won't win, and also they're racist. Well, the vape wouldn't win, and the reason that I feel like he might follow through more in hurting the people that they want hurt is because he's an Untested variable sure and it could go any any number of directions

Yeah, but I mean also part of why they want Trump a second go around is because you know He failed to lock up Hillary and he seems pretty pissed off about it. So maybe he will do it this time Sure, maybe maybe there'll be like a hot. Yeah, I only failed last time because I held back. I thought that you guys wanted me to hold back, but apparently fucking free reign. They came on. Yeah. So Alex believes, still talking to this caller that the dams, dams, yeah, if they if they lose,

they're going to start a race war. Sure. Hillary and the Democrats have already telegraphed what they're going to do. They're going to be if he wins by just a landslide, they're going to activate race riots and then say that Trump is a racist and if he calls the military out, claim that he's a dictator. So that's where they're going.

Right. And then, but how do we stop that? Because they're the criminal enterprise. How do you stop the criminal enterprise that has the Justice Department and everybody else on their side? It would be very hard to overturn that. That's the situation we're in. You're in Massachusetts. What do you make of this man with a beard playing girls basketball slamming the girl on the ground? See now that's real weird. That's real weird because the guy actually asks the question,

which is, all right, all of these, you know, there's this elaborate power structure that's in place that we can't get around. And they, you know, they control all of this shit. What do we do? How do we counter this? And that is the critical important question that Alex can't really wrestle with.

And so when he's asked it, he pivots over into a transphobic headline that he's covering. There's this this comfort that is in that territory, piling around with this guy around the groups that they want to hurt. Yeah. And that's that is telling to me. Yeah. The inability to answer that question leads to that. Yeah, it is the game. It's just so obviously like, that's the question that you're forcing people to ask. You're pushing them into this crisis. Your coverage is constantly asking that question without saying those words. Right. That's the that's the tension you build up. You are the euphemism. Right. And then when they ask you that question, you go hate

trans people. And it's the same kind of thing that that same non answering of relevant question that Alex has had for many years. You know, it was the you'd hear it periodically and people are like, when is it time to start shooting and stuff like that? Alex has no answer for that, but he's coverage is constantly leading you to like, maybe it's time to fucking start shooting. Yeah. Yeah, I understand why people don't like

put that context together because Alex isn't sincere about it, you know, but if you are a fervent listener of Alex and an understander of words, then it's already past time to do the shooting, you know? Yeah, if you've listened to his show, he's constantly said it's about time and you know, there's lines that keep getting crossed and you know, all this. He said like if you, if the state allows children to get the COVID vaccine, then that's like red line. Yeah, absolutely.

So like there's been constant over and over and over again. So yeah, if you're in his audience and you take anything he's saying seriously, right, then that that's what's weighing on you as a listener. And so you have this guy calling in, and he's directly asking, you know, this question, what do we do with that tension that's being built up? And you're right. The answer is, it's fucking hate trans people. Let's let's jump on this. Now, and I don't think I don't think think that's obviously the only direction that this pressure valve release goes to, but it is certainly a big one.

Right. Well, yeah, you know, right now it's trans people and immigrants. And then, you know, five years ago it was gay people and. And five years before that, you know. And it will be again too. It is the out group du jour with the least amount of power to fight back and the most amount of people willing to watch them get abused. And the fact that it goes from that question,

ignoring answering it to that is notable. Yeah, just a complete ignorant ignoring of it. Yeah. So Alex, he's winding down. And so we have one more clip here and it's just I was listening to this, I'm like, it's always the fucking same. And they think as they use psychology, that they'll be able to stay out of this and play us off against each other and have division but Even if a small minority wakes up, which has already happened a large minorities don't wake and Doesn't comply its game over so they've already lost

They're not gonna get away with this they admit they're hitting the panic mode and people are waking up to them And they're absolutely freaking out But we want to survive the collapse that's coming. And there's a lot of ways the collapse can happen. We're already in the collapse. I don't know every permutation number or every way it's going to unfold. Only God knows that, but it's going to be spectacular. And so just realize we're in a world of hurt and make preparations for it.

You're in a world of hurt. But it's always the same. You go to any year and the globalists are panicking. They're hitting the panic button every single fucking year. It's always the same. This is this is it always feels more pressing because it's the present. It always feels like, OK, now it's it's real this time. But it's always the same. The the oh, it's the people are waking up now it's real this time. But it's always the same. People are waking up and it's game over for the globalists that they're gonna oh no they're gonna have to force their plans oh it's real now oh it wasn't before but it is now it's always the same and there's a reason for that. Yeah I wonder

what it would be like what the the feeling would be like to live through like the fall of Rome versus the fall of the Mongol Empire, you know, like an empire that falls over, you know, 200 years versus an empire that falls over 20. Like that is such a fascinating idea because Alex, you know, you could be saying at any point in time at like 25 AD, we're in the middle of the collapse right now, right? But the collapse is still gonna take another 200 years or whatever it is you wanna talk about.

Sure, it's the same thing with Alex saying the economy is about to crater all the fucking time and then when there is an inevitable downturn, oh, I called it, aha. Totally, totally. It's meaningless even when it's correct. Even when it is correct because it's yeah. But what would it be like to live in an empire that falls because one guy died? You know, what would it be like to be that Alex Jones

is like, we're in the clubs right now and everybody's like, yeah, man, Genghis is dead. I don't know. I don't know. That would be interesting. And I think we're better, or they were all probably better for not having radio shitheads back then. Probably. But the other thing too is like, okay, you already have said that like, the globalists have a plan B, and if you stop plan B, they have a plan C.

Right. We're all dead already. Like, what is it? What is real? Nothing just just Like I wait I maybe his last broadcast maybe Alex is already recorded multiple versions But maybe his true last one should just be him like looking directly at the camera just going I Just want your money fade to black right or can't believe my dad didn't guest on the show can't believe after all these years you've never come in for

an interview or how about this you know I never left underneath that house in the insect aside. You all exist in my mind. Exactly. Oh man. I regret talking to Steve Pochanik. The various last words on the show that could be poignant. There are a lot of epitaphs. Yeah. Don't live a life where you write a lot of epitaphs. So we reached the end of this and this was not necessarily the outburst that maybe thought would come given the breaking news, but certainly there's the ominousness of being off air for the first hour and then trying to meld Trump's situation with his own in terms of creating a brand of this bankruptcy. It does feel like there are steps that are happening behind the scenes that are going to,

they're going to lead to that explosion at some point. It may just not be immediate. Yeah, it is feeling as though this period of, I think we should appropriately title our era, It is feeling as though this period of, I think we should appropriately title our era, the era of edging, because it does feel like we are about to come to the close. You know, like the season is finally hitting the finale. Yeah, it sucks because it has felt like that

a number of times in the past. So many times, but that's what edging is, you know, the constant feeling of being almost there. That's true. That's why this is the era of edging. The, you know, one of the things that makes this a little different is there are external forces that are being applied through the courts and stuff. Yeah. That aren't necessarily, you know, things as nebulous as my ad revenue is down or, or I got kicked off Twitter or whatever. It feels like we are in the time where someone is going to knock on a door

and that's a bad knock, you know? It's gonna be someone is selling your door. Yeah, yeah, we're all in the space of like, eventually the door is going to get kicked down. That's what we're, both Trump and Alex are in their big castles and eventually we're like, knocking on the fucking door and eventually it's gonna to get kicked down and we don't know exactly when but it feels like the door is breaking.

Yeah. It feels like it. Yeah. And we'll see. We'll see what happens. But you know, until then, until we have another episode soon. Yep. We have a website.

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