Knowledge Fight - #903: April 7, 2004
Episode Date: February 26, 2024In this installment, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to experience Alex interviewing a guy who runs a bar in Spain who has a plan to offer microchips as VIP membership cards. This results in the... most bone-chilling and sinster interview Alex has ever conducted.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes that sit around,
we're with the altar of Sleen
and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Sit around and worship with the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex
Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan! Jordan. I have a quick question for you.
What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, Jordan, is this is a
little bit overdue and a little bit... It meant to do this sooner, but things have
gotten in the way. A while back, I started a sub stack. Yes. Stackys.substack.com.
And I put out two posts on it and then had a little bit
of a hurdle, a little medical condition
that limited my ability to expand
into other side projects and such.
And then also I had a very terrible situation.
So that sub stack is largely taking Alex's emails
and stuff and
discussing editorial decisions and things that you can learn from them. I had been going
over all of these thousands and thousands of emails and making notes on them and stuff
and then I my computer crashed and I lost that document. Oh my God. And so I had to
start pretty much all over going through these emails. You're not telling the truth.
That can't be real. It is unfortunately. So there had been a bit of a setback
and I've been meaning to get back to it because I don't want this to be just yet
another thing. Sure. I set out and embarked to do and then oh wow.
This is another mustard. This is another year of the mustard. I mean you're well you know
you don't set easily achievable goals. Let's put it that way. I I may I may want to do more than I can sure
But there will be new posts. I'm not sure exactly how
Like the periodicalness of it. I don't know the rate
But March 1st March 1st March 1st. There'll be a new for you on there. Absolutely. So that's exciting the stack ease
It is exciting
But yeah, we'll see we'll see how consistent it is.
But there will be at least a few more posts on there.
It's tough.
It's tough.
Yeah.
It's tough.
And then also trying to figure out, like, all right, I only have a limited number of
source materials here.
Sure, sure.
What could it be other than that?
So I'm trying to figure out other things that could go on that sub-stack.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's there.
I mean, I assume it's
not eventually devolve into opining about different backpacks
you've seen on the subway. You don't know. And whether or not
they are okay. We all have a path to go down. Maybe that's the
one I will. I think I think grumpy old commentator seems great
for you. Sure. I think that would be or episode by episode
breakdown of some show. Maybe I'll I think that would be great. Or episode by episode breakdown of some show. Yeah. Maybe I'll do Lost. That'd be great. Survivor. Totally. Something like
that. No reason not to. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to be a grumpy Gus all the time. You
can get into the good stuff. Get into the fun. No, no, no, no. Be very grumpy about
those shows. Yeah, no. You are. Yeah, it's true. He would be very grumpy. So it's your
bright spot. My bright spot is I suppose I'll just go ahead and say the weather is nice outside.
It was snowing yesterday or the day before.
It was snowing yesterday night.
And that's almost 60.
25 degrees at five a.m.
when I had to take the dogs out this morning.
And now it's 60 degrees and it's bright and sunny and it's beautiful.
I was sitting in the apartment and the wind blowing through the like on the walls and shit. Yeah, it sounded like
Things crashing. Yeah. Yeah, it was nuts that that winter storm that broke out and then now it's 60 like a day or two later
Yep, this is not healthy just nothing. It was yeah. No, I took the dogs out the night before
Everything was covered in a layer of ice. And then the then about
an hour ago, everything is just drenched wet outside of my, uh, yeah.
And it's short time. Yup. Yup. It's beautiful. Yeah, that is nice. I mean, it's better than
the snow. First time I haven't worn a coat in about four or six months, something like
that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I have a coat that is torn to shit because it's so old. I didn't even realize that has a big rip
in the backside of it.
That one.
And so I have been like putting it off.
Yeah.
I'm like, I need a new coat.
Sure.
And I mean to get one, but I'm like,
I'll just make it to the end of this winter
and then we'll initiate next year.
No, now is when you get a cheap coat.
Well, no, in a couple months.
Sure.
Then you strike. You survive the winter. Coatless.
Right. Only to get a cheap coat in the summer. Yeah. Only except
you'll probably forget and then wind up needing one. Absolutely.
Then I'll wear this one next year and then I'll make you
excuse the same thing and then we'll see you in about five years.
It's a circle of life. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go
over and we're gonna be in the past because I've gotten enough of Alex's a lot of hate going on in the present day.
It just feels like we need, I think, you know, probably listeners need and I more so need
to get a break, a spiritual break, need a breaky from that nonsense. And so we're going
back to the past. We're going to be in 2004. And we've landed on April 7th, 2004.
All right.
There's a couple days of meh.
But this episode is nuts.
Okay.
It's nuts in a way that I didn't really expect.
A lot of times when I'm listening to episodes, I'm like,
ah, I get a sense of what's happening here.
In this episode, I got so blindsided by the end of it
that I was like, I gotta go,
I gotta reassess what happened.
Okay.
So anyway, this is a pretty cryptic.
There's an M night Shyamalan like,
oh my God, has this been there from the beginning?
I need to rewatch.
It's the quality of some of Shyamalan's lesser work.
Okay.
Like Avatar, the last airbender. That's what I hear. So we'll get down to business on this here past
times episode, but tell we do that before we do that. Let's say hello to some new walks. That's a great idea.
So first, American dialing code neon nips. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy
walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, a dedication in two parts to George, the finest feline who will be
Miss dearly and to all the wonderful people on the KF Discord server.
Thank you so much, you are now policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Next, that one with the boobs.
Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Next, sloth philosophy who never got his buttons.
Yep.
Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
I'd love to get you that button. I I do have bags of buttons. Well, we'll see next Alex in Aberfan, South Wales
Pranthetically, it's true. He does look like a lot of Welsh men. Thank you so much. You're an hour policy walk
I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we're gonna take credit in the mix Jordan
So thank you so much to Emerory Core providing a better today tomorrow with
the knowledge that Chicago rules and Madison drools. Thank you so much. You are now a
technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually.
I'm just going to take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm gonna start the show over but
I'm the devil I gotta be taken out of here! Fuck you! Fuck you! I got plenty of
words for you but at the end of the day fuck you in your new world order and
fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit! Maybe today should be my last
broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow
and you never see me again.
That's really what I wanna do.
I never wanna come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday
that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
Nope. But also, fuck you Madison. I'll be better tomorrow. No, but also fuck you, Madison.
I don't know. I don't know.
I've been to Madison, Wisconsin once or twice.
Yeah, I think it's a fine town.
I got nothing against Madison.
I mean, hey, as far as Madison goes, comedy on state.
Boy, yeah, that makes up for a lot. Makes up for a lot.
Yeah, I never I never got to perform there.
Oh, really? Oh, man. Never booked. It is one of those. It's one of those rooms never performed
in Appleton. Is that the same clothes? Skyline? No, no, never performed there either. I've
never performed there either. Now Wisconsin, not a hot city for me. I guess I did do Milwaukee
a couple of times. I had Milwaukee, Miss Madison. I yeah, but I mean, it's not like I did no show. I was a book on comedy on state. Yeah. How about
South Beloit? Yeah, I prefer North Beloit. So we start off
the episode. Alex has some news that is going to kick off the
show. All right.
This just in from Sky Television News National Television in the
United Kingdom report 130 soldiers killed in Iraq. We're
not hearing that here, are we? A Pentagon source has set up to 130 U.S. troops have been killed
in first fighting in Iraq in the last day. The large-scale battle described as intense
has taken place in the town of Ar-Ramadi, 20 miles west of Fuljala.
So this is a real Sky News article that Alex is reporting on, but it ultimately turned
out not to be correct.
Alex consistently pronounces Fallujah like that, but I don't want to be too much of a
dick about it.
I mispronounce things all the time.
Oh, I just want to be…
Yeah, pointing it out for the sake of clarity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
So this has to do with the battle that broke out in Ramadi on April 6th, and in the first day of fighting,
12 US soldiers were killed.
The thing is that even in the Sky News article,
the reporter David Chatter is quoted as saying,
quote, none of this is official yet,
none of this is confirmed, which should be a cause
to take the numbers that are being cited
with a grain of salt.
Alex isn't into that.
He takes the unconfirmed numbers as concrete,
and then accuses the other media outlets of not covering the story.
In reality, other US mainstream media outlets covered this battle with and with a gift of hindsight. They were much more accurate.
CNN reported quote as many as a dozen US Marines were killed Tuesday in heavy fighting in the Western Iraq town of Marabati.
The Washington Post had an article about it, as did the New York Times
and the Los Angeles Times. The Chicago Tribune covered the story, saying, quote, about a
dozen U.S. Marines were killed Tuesday as fighting across Iraq intensified. They said
about a dozen because all told the fatalities included these 12 Marines, another U.S. soldier,
and one coalition soldier from Ukraine. I was trying to figure out where this 130 number
could have come from. And the best guess that I have is that it was a mistake on the part of the Sky News
reporter. The Chicago Tribune article includes a figure that 130 Iraqis had died since fighting
broke out that Sunday, which I have a suspicion is what is being confused by this Sky News
article and then reported by Alex. I'm not sure that's just my best guess, but whatever
the case is for what happened, it appears that this unconfirmed figure was inaccurate, but may actually reflect the death toll on
the Iraqi side.
It's possible.
This highlights an important feature of Alex's news philosophy, though.
Here you can see him finding something a bit speculative that works pretty well for his
narratives.
Instead of recognizing the speculative nature of the story, he treats it as rock solid, and not only that, the rest of the media refuses to even cover the story. It's incredibly
important for Alex to present the rest of the media as covering up all the truths that
he relays to the audience because those same media outlets often report out information
that debunks his narratives so nothing they say should be taken seriously. Except for
when Alex needs to use them as a like even major media saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's
it. That is interesting. Because when you're talking about
2004 and this kind of like corroboration, you know, he
doesn't just have Twitter, he doesn't just have somebody who
will send out a tweet and they'll be like, Okay, this is the
lie. I'm going to base something of. Like, what do you...
A lot of times, really message boards.
I mean, yeah.
Like, it's so fascinating that how social media has tinged
backwards all of the ways that we kind of view this kind of news
is I don't know how I would process it now.
Well, I think you, well...
Without a social media to like, scream in every possible direction and hear everybody screaming and hear everybody screaming
Yeah, everybody. I you know, I just went to school that day. Yeah, I mean, I think I think that
You know, you see this bit of reporting from Sky News. It says nothing is confirmed. You take it as like well
That could be bad. Yeah, I mean obviously war is always bad
But you know this could be something or it could be off Who knows and then you wait for confirmation and more solid reporting. Yeah, you have to which doesn't work now on
No, no, no, absolutely not like I you're right
Like it was like them saying this is unconfirmed and you would go oh well then I'll hold off right
Yeah, and that would be it. It's a then you would hold off
Yeah, and that would be it. It's a and then you would hold off
Mm-hmm Not Alex no without social media influences. He's still doing the same thing that people are now doing with
So yeah, yep, yep, so we got an introduction of a narrative that will take over the rest of the show here in this next clip
We've got their press release now. We're gonna get them on the show the owner of the number one bar disco in Madrid Spain where to get
into the VIP section you've got to take a microchip and they're doing it right now and
how many times did I tell you it's going to be a status symbol your teenage children
within just a few years will be demanding that they get the chip they will run out to
the so-called tattoo parlors that are now being signed on by Barrett Chip. It'll be a counterculture thing sold to you directly by the military industrial complex. And there's
now a bus here in the U.S. embedded microchip seller Barrett Chip announces Chipmobile is
on the move. Watch for the Chipmobile coming to your town or neighborhood. Like the ice
cream truck, children lining up for their chips.
We got that on the website folks. There's so much. This show is going to be absolutely huge. So huge. I think it's safe to say that Alex was a little bit off on his chip predictions.
You think if anyone is trying to get making chips seem cool in 2024, it's his good buddy Elon Musk.
And Alex is not criticizing him about that. He's spending his time on air pretending that Musk is purely using
his Neuralink chips to treat disabilities because covering it that way allows the audience to pretend that Musk isn't doing the exact shit
Alex's claim the globalists are trying to do for decades.
Anyway, this is about a club in Barcelona, not Madrid, and it's called the Baja Beach Club.
The owners decided that it would be a good idea to offer the option to people to get a chip implant that would serve as their VIP membership card, although they could
still opt for a non-chip membership if they preferred. The thinking was that people were
going to go to a dance club and they didn't want to worry about having a purse or wallet
that could be stolen and that having a digital membership you could use to buy drinks would
be really convenient. One guy who got the chip was interviewed and he summed up the
appeal saying, quote, you don't need money in your pockets and you can't lose it either when you are jumping.
The chip is jump dancing safe. Can't argue. I mean, yeah, if you take a lot of E and rave
and a chip is perfect for not remembering where your money is, I need to jump. Yeah,
pretty regularly need to jump. So by the the end of 2004 only 12 people adopted for the VIP card
But this is kind of the best outcome possible for that bar sure you want a ton of people
Not necessarily to take this option because doing so removes the VIP element of it all and really at the end of the day
This was a move primarily aimed at drumming up publicity for the club, which was wildly successful
Yeah by 2008 they'd abandoned the chip program entirely.
Well, yeah.
So this company, Verichip, did operate what they called a chipmobile, but it wasn't like
an ice cream truck. It went to senior citizen centers and offered the chips to Alzheimer's
patients. There were a bunch of articles in like 2002 about the chipmobile providing
chips for eight people and how that technology could be really helpful in situations where
Disoriented patients arrive at a hospital
It may not be able to provide staff with important details like who they are or what they might be allergic to right?
All right, of course people in Alex's world called this the mark of the beast because something has to be called the mark of the beast
Every month or so. Yeah, so there was this one for this time and that's just cream truck
So it's just the chips that they put in pets.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and there were some medical applications
that the FDA approved for humans.
Yeah, I mean, every time I've seen a pet go to a vet
and they just scan the chip and they've got everything,
I've been like, yeah, let's just chip people.
That makes sense.
Just scan the shit and then let's move on.
I think there's some concerns and definitely a debate that
could be had but I also think that some of the fear about it is maybe a little
overblown we'll get to explore all of these ideas I believe that coming up
so Alex has a bit of a prediction in this clip and you can you can guess you
can decide for yourself this was a good prediction okay hashtag alex
jones is right okay
let me tell you this now you know i make predictions and unfortunately they've
all come true
i will now make one
we make it conservative
or estimate or prediction
i thought it was prediction
because i would say two years but to be safe i will say within four years
there will be reports every week.
You, many of you as listeners will experience it as your 14-year-old daughter or son throws
a fit and demands the IM12 Mega Chip.
I want the IM12 Mega Chip dead!
As they blow up in your head and say, all my friends are getting it.
I can't get into certain events.
I'm not cool.
I can't interface the internet, you know, through my computer sunglasses. I don't get in to certain events. I'm not cool I can't interface the internet, you know through my computer sunglasses
If I don't have this I've got to have it and your child will come home
And you will never know until they're 20 years old that six years before they were implanted with a chip
And they're gonna take the chip
And if you catch them they're gonna scream and yell at you if you find the receipt in there in there in their dresser drawer
They're gonna say
The MacG cool people have got it you're not gonna stop me it's mine
Now I'm serious. He's serious serious. So this this one did not fail
Conservative conservative estimate four years 2008
Yeah, that's what happened. Here's what I here's what I love. Here's what I love so much about predictions
Donnie D the big G about about about what the kids will find cool
Mm-hmm those predictions are made almost entirely by people who have never and will never be cool true
You know so it's like oh these you know it's like the the Google glasses are like oh people are gonna love wearing cool
AR glasses gonna be so cool and everybody saw and they're like you look like a fucking idiot man
Mm-hmm, and then we all just moved on.
Yeah, there are, there's some harsh awakenings
for people who have ideas.
And I think that Alex is basing this off like,
I don't know, his love of sci-fi when he was a kid
and shit like this and, you know,
I just, I don't know.
I don't preclude the possibility
that there could come a time in the future
where some kind of chip is useful
in some applications in society.
Yeah, why not?
I don't foresee a future where kids are going
and getting chips behind your parents back
and your parents find the receipt.
Cause Donnie D, the Mac G rapper. I want to I want
to try and be clear because I know parents are all very scared of like you know what's
the next thing kids are going to find cool you know and I'm going to tell you this there's
only two things sex and drugs still cool and we're cool when I was a kid before that before
that there's a couple of other sort of sure
There's new ones fireworks. No, I mean things that are always. Oh, yeah
Yeah, you know, there's sex drugs fireworks sure to a certain group blades
Yeah, yeah, the blade group is always but you know slight danger as long as you let the blade group be free and happy
And Rome they're good. It's when you try
and cage them that they get into trouble. Sure. Yeah. So Alex is going to have an interview
with the guy who runs the Baja Beach Club. I'm sorry. Alex had mentioned that already
said we got the press release. We're going to have this guy on and I thought that met
in a future episode. The Spanish guy. He's not Spanish, he's American. He lives in Barcelona. Okay, okay, okay.
I didn't realize that that was meant like
in a couple of minutes we're gonna interview this guy.
Okay, okay.
So he comes in.
Right.
And this is one of the weirdest fucking interviews
that I've ever heard.
Okay.
Alex is so nice to this guy.
What?
Because he's trying to bait him.
Right.
And we'll see this play out over the course
of the interview.
Okay.
But here's where we begin.
We've been talking about the global move to making an implantable radio frequency identification
microchip to be the global identification system. And I talked about how it's something
we'll first see in VIP circles.
And we are honored to be joined by Conrad Chase, the director of the Baja Beach Disco
bars that's in several European countries, and then it's the top of the line,
a club system.
Top of the line.
And he's been implanted with the Verichip Radio Frequency Identification System. very cheap but uh... radio frequency identification uh... system
he was implanted on the national television show called big brother
over there
and uh... now the vip's the bar those of one of the vip room will have it
and uh... joining us from madrid spain is comrade chast
and uh...
and uh...
and uh...
and uh...
and uh...
and uh...
uh...
and uh... and uh... and uh... A good to have you on the show. Good to be here. In Barcelona, Spain, actually.
Okay, I apologize.
No, no, it's probably our fault.
My secretary probably screwed up with that.
No, I'm sure it's our fault.
But they're in Barcelona.
So right off the bat, Alex is introducing
the theme of this interview.
The Globals are trying to make you get an RFID chip,
and their plan is to make it seem cool.
His interview subject, Conrad Chase,
is the owner of
a bar that's offering microchips for VIPs, which is supposed to be the exact thing the globalists
would do. He's saying that the special people get chips. Conrad doesn't realize at this point,
but that's the accusation that's running underneath this entire interview. He's there on trial,
but he doesn't know that because he's a bar owner
who thinks he's doing a promotional interview for the bar. But in reality, Alex is setting
him up.
The first thing Conrad does is correct Alex about his bar being in Barcelona, not Madrid,
and Alex is so gracious about it. He's the most agreeable interview you could ever imagine.
And this is a strategy that Alex is going to employ in this interview to put Conrad at
ease, which is working, it works really well.
But to take advantage of it, essentially.
Right.
So when I said that there was the Shamalani twist
or whatever, it's this.
Yeah.
This interview, when I was listening to the episode,
I thought snooze, incredibly bleh.
Yeah.
But then as the rest of the show went on, I'm like, oh, no, no, we have to we have
to break down the minutiae of this interview of Alex being so nice to this guy and trying
to lure him into traps. Right. Gotcha. Okay. So what is what eventually
turns out to be a non-eventful walk through the forest in the real world should have been filled with traps
Explosives and like he falls and then gets it let that lands on spikes
Well, I think it's a pretty Alex is just bad at leading him to the trap. No, he falls into a bunch of traps
Oh, he falls into a bunch of but they're really boring. I mean
In the real world, this is a boring interview within the prism of info wars
It becomes the most sinister evil thing that Alex has ever experienced.
And that's jarring. It's very difficult to explain. But you'll see it as things go on.
Like if somebody goes into a McDonald's and everybody's having a great time and they just behave as if they're haunted.
Like just terrified. Just constant. There's ghosts everywhere and all you see is everybody in like the play place
Sliding down slides just having a grand old time. Yeah, but if one person was dressed as a ghost. Oh, okay
Okay, so there's a little bit of the appearance. So you're like, okay, maybe this will be fine. Yeah, okay, but that's just ghosty Pete
Okay, so Alex asks about Conrad being
chipped. And here's the answer for that. You yourself have been implanted. Can you tell
us about that? I have, yes. I have the very chip, the chip in my arm. It is a uh... radio frequency uh... uh... i'd be tagged uh... it's a
on micro transmitter
uh... it only transmit when the reader when the reader
uh... in the vicinity in the reader has to charge the chip before it to actually
transmit it's uh... identifying signal
so you cannot be localized all over the world uh... the satellite some people
uh... make here
okay uh...
now yes you can when you go into the club all over the world via satellite as some people may fear. Okay, now.
Yes, you can.
When you go into the club,
why did you decide to start this program
at the Barcelona club?
Exactly.
Well, we just opened our new VIP lounge here on the 25th.
We had the inauguration of our VIP lounge
and I wanted to have something very unique
that no other club had and we
were able to achieve that with the VIP chip.
So if you didn't get the sense that something was off about this interview, this should
be setting off huge alarm bells at this point.
Conrad is telling Alex that the RFID chips require the power from the reader to even
operate so they can't be used to track people.
Under normal circumstances, Alex would hear that and shout the person down, but instead,
he hears it and just moves to the next question
It's very curious and if I were in Conrad's position, I would be like hang up hang up
I I love it
He's he's up like trying to get out in front of things is like a listen
I understand before you even go any further people have had joking questions and
Reasonable feared questions of like oh can the satellites follow me? No, I guarantee they have not. And Alex not screaming, yes, they fucking can and I'll
kill your child. That doesn't make sense to me. But Conrad doesn't necessarily probably
even know who Alex is. He doesn't know that that's weird. No clue. Yeah. He's just having
a normal conversation. But the second question there reveals a lot. When he was asked why
he did the chip thing Conrad basically says that they want to do something splashy to promote the opening of their new
VIP lounge. This is a promotional interview as far as Conrad knows because this whole
thing is marketing. It's a whole and I think Alex understands that. I think he understands
what this guy's interest in being there is and he's using that to his advantage. Right.
Because Alex understands that it is marketing. Yeah.
Like like on a fundamental level, he understands that truly this is marketing. I am not actually
discovering the mark of the beast on some fucking VIP club in Barcelona. This guy has
an interest in marketing himself, his club, this technology, right and all this stuff.
So he can use that against him, right? judo move and make that appear to be marketing
for the New World Order.
Okay, so what I'm hearing is that this is our proto-Tucker
Putin interview.
I wouldn't, I don't know about that.
Oh.
Well I mean, there's a guy who runs a bar
and Alex Jones in 2004.
Yes, but he has supreme power over the bar.
And Alex Jones is essentially where Tucker is now back in 2004. He's just baitable if he has supreme power over the bar. And Alex Jones is essentially where Tucker is now
back in 2004.
He's debatable if he has supreme power over the bar.
He had 12 people to give VIP chips.
Well, yeah, but he could kill any of them remotely.
Any time.
Yeah, see, okay, fine.
So Alex asks, you know, you got some other bars.
Yeah.
Are those ones gonna have some chips?
Yeah, well, obviously.
Sir, is this gonna be done at the u.s. and british and uh... the club in holland
it's definitely going to be done in my club in holland and i will be opening
soon in uh... cologne germany
they are another bar how big club and the uh...
the england the clubs in britain
are actually a franchise so i i haven't uh... haven't had the opportunity to speak with them yet to find out whether they're interested or not. But I'm quite sure that this concept is really growing and I'm quite sure that they'll be interested soon.
So Conrad probably thinks that's a perfectly innocent question that someone with interest in doing a promotional interview might ask. But it's actually Alex grilling this guy. These questions
are being delivered with all the fake respect Alex can muster and the design
to elicit responses that Alex can incorporate into the narrative that he's
building. For instance, this question was fishing for a response that the chip
plan was gonna be incorporated in all these other clubs, particularly the
ones of the United States, so Alex could claim that the globalists are doing a
trial run in Barcelona, but their main plan is to bring it here so they can chip all of his patriot buddies
Conrad doesn't realize it, but Alex is asking him set up questions
Which explains why he's being so pleasant
He doesn't want to raise any alarm bells and get this fish off the hook
Yeah, this is this is as close to like an FBI like you're not under suspicion, right?
We're just coming in for a conversation. This is totally normal.
Anything you say absolutely totally won't be used against
you cut to.
Yeah.
So Alex asks again about, hey, you got your own chip, right?
Sure.
Because the answer to that went a little off the rails.
And Alex really wants to nail down this idea
that you got it on Big Brother.
Absolutely.
Which is apparently.
Wait, Big Brother the TV show? Yeah. He was on Big Brother? Gran Hermano. The Spanish version.
Can you tell us about your implantation procedure and where that took place because that's very
interesting. Sure. Well, we did that actually on Thursday night at two o'clock in the morning
while the club was open and performed it right here in the club in the VIP lounge.
And I had a doctor come to perform the procedure.
It can be performed by any licensed nurse who is certified or is trained in...
Yeah, it's very convenient, a one-time deal, very easy to get to the chip.
It's a simple injection, really, really simple.
They do use a small needle to put a small anesthesia in first, and then they put the
chip in, and it's not painful at all because of the local anesthetic.
Now I had read that this was also broadcast on some television there on a show called Big Brother. Yeah, actually it wasn't broadcast on Big Brother.
What we had was the people from Big Brother came to our club and were going to be chipped
at it turned out being that on the night there was a great deal of chaos.
The club was just so busy that we wound up not implying the chip in them that night.
They're going to come by that night they're gonna come
by uh... they're gonna be a type of lighter for the show
yeah yeah exactly uh...
well not only the other
that would come up with the show i guess
so i have some details wrong because he saw the words big brother in an article
about conrad that is going to wrote his own story about right
the way this was supposed to go with the conrad say that he got the chip on big
brother which is a subtle message.
Right.
The globalists are laughing at you.
Nominative determinism, yeah.
In the real world, Conrad was on season six of the Spanish version of Big Brother, but
that wouldn't end up being until September 2004, which is months after this.
The way Big Brother works is that the show is being filmed as it's airing, because audience
votes end up altering various aspects of the game, and in the the Spanish version the audience actually voted who to evict from the house.
It wasn't a house vote as it is in the American version.
It seems to me that the only way that this could work is that some people who work on
the show were going to get a chip to become VIPs as part of a video package that Conrad
would, about him, that would play at the start of the season to flesh out his character. Sure.
That's what I have to, that's the only thing that makes sense.
Right.
Because it couldn't have been other contestants getting chipped since it's months before that season started
and it's months after the previous season it ended.
So there's just no way unless this was like a video package that they were filming.
Okay.
Because he was gonna be on the next season.
Right.
Fun fact, Conrad came in second that season.
He came in second?
Good for him. Not a fun fact, but yeah, good for him. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. So he's on big brother.
I mean that show sucks. I'm not sure. Wait, Gran Hermano sucks. I don't know if Gran
Hermano sucks. Man, it makes me that's such a better name. I just love. Yeah, big brother
is very mundane and annoying, but Gran Hermano. I'll watch this shit out of Grand Hermano.
Grand Hermano is the longest running international version of
Big Brother. From what I understand, have you ever fucking
ever? Yeah. Man, that show is a mess. Anyway, this interview goes
on towards other subjects.
And I think that if I were Conrad at a certain point,
I would start to realize like, man,
he's asking a fair amount of questions
that aren't about my bar and aren't about this VIP program.
Maybe I should be a little bit on guard.
That's what happens when you're disarmed.
You had told my producer that FN Herzl,
a big manufacturer of firearms is moving ahead with a chip for the hand to
access your firearm.
Yes, Alex. That's very interesting what they're doing. It's really a great idea because the
policeman that will be using it, they will have the chip implanted in their firing hand
in between the thumb and forefinger, and that will actually provide a means of allowing the pistol
to function. If somebody were to steal the pistol from them, it does them no good. It cannot fire
unless you've got the proper chip in the hand.
There's a move here in the U.S. to make all the gun manufacturers put RFID in the gun.
Then you wear a ring that activates it. There's a move actually to make that the law by
2006 do you I think that's a good idea. I think it's a great idea
But it'd be much easier to have the chip though
I think it'd be a lot easier to have the chip because then you have the other
Advantages of having the the chip you cannot lose it a ring you can lose the chip you cannot lose
You don't have to worry about forgetting it if you ever work check it off
Fair point. So this is getting a bit rangy
Conrad's a guy who manages this bar in Barcelona is trying to whip up press for his new VIP lounge
He's a bar manager, but he also seems to be pretty into the microchip technology personally seems to be a fan
But I'm left wondering why it matters that he thinks it's a good idea to have chips for people to use guns
wondering why it matters, that he thinks it's a good idea to have chips for people to use guns. This man lives in Spain and has no legitimate impact on legislation there or in the United States.
This is something that Alex can disagree with him about, but I struggle to see how this is meaningful.
But this is an instance where Alex is asking these baiting questions and he got exactly the answer he was looking for.
He doesn't respond to this with anger or even comment after Conrad answers because it went perfectly. This guy who's running a microchip program
to make chipping look cool wants you to have to get a chip to get a gun. Alex has something
he can work with here, but things aren't really where they need to be because this is still
just a guy who runs a bar. We need to elevate him somehow, which will be the next major
challenge Alex has to face in this presentation that he's putting forth at this interview
Right, why does it matter that this bar owner wants people to get chips?
Well, I mean I think the I think the obvious thing is that the bar owner gets the famous people the famous people get the chips
The famous people make regular people want to get the chips etc. Uh-huh, right?
That's the that's the the traditional
But what does it matter that the bar owner thinks that you should have a
chip to get a gun? What impact does that have on any of this?
Well, because then only famous people with chips will be able
to get guns. Well, okay, fine. But the the the and then they'll
hunt regular people as we all know the place of reality
intersection. Yeah, he's like, okay, you can grill him about the impact
that making it look cool to get a chip has, I guess.
But when you're trying to branch it off
into all of these other microchip conspiracies,
you kind of need to make him more
than just a guy who runs a bar.
You need to make him more important.
Yeah, okay, all right.
So he's gotta be operative of some sort, right? So he's got to be operative of some sort.
Right?
So he's working on behalf of the globalists
as an undercover bar, Baja agent.
Like John Tapper?
Yeah.
Tapper?
Yeah.
Is it Tapper or Tapper?
Do one of those.
Yeah.
Bar rescue?
Yeah.
I think that's what he's got to be.
That's not an undercover bar.
It's close.
So well, there's one way you can go with it.
The other way that Alex decides to try and get at this problem is be like, you're working
with Vera Chip.
Very Chip is the company that makes the trips.
All right.
All right.
All right.
So he's trying to put him.
So there's a partnership.
Higher, like one step higher up the ladder than he appears to be.
Now, have you been in, I mean, obviously you've been in contact with Vera Chip, the company. I imagine they're pretty excited to have someone prominent with this VIP used to be now have you been caught on obviously been in contact with very chip the
company i imagine they're pretty excited to have someone prominent with his
vip connection to be promoting this
yes yes that we have a very good working relationship where i'm i'm actually
uh... take on a distributor ship here
uh... in the benelux
did you know i'd be in really owns very cheap
uh... like in a metaphorical sense heard I haven't heard of that.
The Veritychip is owned by the Applied Digital Systems Corporation.
Yeah, but the main creditors and some of the board controllers are IBM,
which is everything. I'm just saying a big technology company like that.
I wasn't aware of that. They're a major shareholder in ADFX.
Yeah, and at the same time, the plant is in Beijing, China.
Were you aware of that? Yes, yes.
So there are also some shareholders in it.
Now, what? So now we're starting to flesh out the answer as to why this guy matters.
He's in cahoots with Vera Chip, who's secretly owned by IBM and the Chinese. Now this isn't
just a bar owner, it's a major player in an international conspiracy where his job is to
make the chip look cool and hip for the kids. You can see how this is starting to take shape. The angles that
Alex needs to pursue in order to make this interview what he wants it to be are being
pursued. So Vera Chip is owned, as Conrad is saying, by a company called Applied Digital
Solutions. In 1999, ADS took out a loan from IBM's credit company, and as of 2003, owed them about $77
million.
However, in 2003, ADS sued IBM, quote, alleging interference with business relationships,
racketeering, fraud, and conspiracy.
They have a very sour relationship at this point, and a month before this episode was
recorded, IBM demanded ADS repay their loan in full.
Oh, that's no good.
Yeah, ADS was preparing to declare bankruptcy,
but IBM decided they could just pay back 30 million
of the loan, and then they would call it even,
as opposed to them just going out of business.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't see,
it's basically a settlement.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
IBM does not own the company,
they just gave them a sizeable loan,
and then things fell apart as ADS became
a less viable company when the dot-com boom ended. Also, just because something is produced in China,
that does not mean that the Chinese government is a part owner of the company. What I think is
really interesting there is the dynamic that plays out over the course of this clip. Alex directly
asserts that IBM owns Verichip, but he wasn't expecting that Conrad would know the company that
actually owns them.
Because Conrad pushes back, Alex has to retreat from his firm assertion that IBM owns the
company with some vague ideas about boards and creditors.
This is how Alex is with all of his information.
He has very strong statements that he makes about his shit because he knows that most
of the time no one will actually know anything about what he's talking about.
In those instances where he runs into someone with actual knowledge about the thing he's talking about, he crumbles and
he has to severely hedge the strong statements he started off with. And part
of the reason he crumbles is because he's not looking to have, you know, like an
argument with Conrad at all. Alex is doing this interview and saying the
things he's saying with a wink to the audience. He's playing to them and
Conrad's a prop in this. It doesn't serve anyone's interest to argue about whether or not IBM owns the company.
I'm just trying to inject that for the audience.
Yeah, yeah. I think what is interesting is that Alex is kind of taken aback by him knowing
about the computer chip.
Which is why he has to equivocate. That's a change in his stance.
Which is like, if I'm Alex, that seems like a great judo move.
Like now you know too much.
You know enough to now be even higher up in my conspiracy,
because now you even know who owns the shit?
Oh, okay.
Well, that realization might dawn on Alex at some point.
Okay.
But one of the other things that is,
I think a hallmark of Alex's strategy
Is he never pursues lines of thought?
Consistently so you have this this approach here where you have ah here's a conspiracy thread the guns chipping thing
You know sure sure sure you have this other thread where it's like he's working with very chip
So he's an important person. He's a big part of this conspiracy. But then there's also just like you go off on side
tracks. It's you do like instead of an a a a a a b b b b c c right.
Given a c b b c a sure jump all over the place. So the point of what you're doing is a little
bit distorted. Yeah, I do that. Sure. I think a lot of people do. Yeah. Um, but here's how I'm interviews on purpose.
Shifting gears.
Sir, I know you get ready for a big night.
If we can just spend maybe 10 more minutes with you,
because I've got some, some other interesting questions
about this.
How are you going to have any of your dancing girls implanted?
Yes, I have a lot of people who are interested in several employees.
What I wanted to do is I wanted to get some of our customers chipped and we just this past Monday had three customers chipped and
next week on Tuesday I am scheduling another chipping session where I'll be chipping another
six customers. I want to first get build up our customer database of people who have been
chipped and then I'll start working on the employees.
So Alex is asking if the Dancing Girls are getting chipped because he's fishing
for things that would make getting chipped sexier to the general public.
Also, I'm not sure if there are dancing girls at this club.
The way Alex is suggesting it.
Yeah.
It's interesting to hear that he's chipped three customers and there are six
lined up because that's pretty close to all of the customers that he would have
signed up by the end of the year, according to an analysis done by
researchers from the University of Wollongong. So it feels like, you know, it's a press tour. Yeah. This is well this
is. On the other hand, though, it does make sense that he would know a lot about the chip
because this is 2004 and you're getting a chip implanted into your body, right? Like
even now in
2024 the most famous rich person alive is is telling people that I'm gonna put computer chips inside of you and people are
Understandably for the most part reasonably concerned. Yeah, right? That was 20,000 for the best I can tell is he's actually very interested in this technology
That's why he chose it to be the big PR stunt that they're doing to open this VIP lounge. Yeah, this is a personal thing that he is interested in. Also, he
was in a Dutch boy band called the Baja Boy. I'm sorry. What? No, he was not. He was.
He was in a Dutch boy. He was in a Dutch boy band. He's an American. He was in a Dutch
boy band. Who runs a bar in Barcelona. He runs a bar in Barcelona and was on Gran Hermano.
Yeah. Okay. That is correct. I quite a lot of Barcelona and was on Gran Hermano. Yep. Okay.
That is correct.
I love this guy.
I think I do.
Well, I have terrible news for you
and that is that he just died recently.
I was gonna say, yeah, that sounds right.
I feel terrible bringing that news to you.
Fair enough.
But, so this idea about trying to make this more appealing,
make the chip more appealing, continues
on through the next question.
Now, we've gotten your press release, we're going to be posting that, but I wanted to
know what type of perks, because I was hearing that some of the stuff at your fabulous club
is free, so you get just fabulous, really, primo perks, and you get the chip.
Right, exactly.
If you install the chip, then you get just that really screen all parts of you get the chip right exactly if you are if you install the chip then you get free entrance
uh... the interest is normally fourteen euros but uh... with the trip you get
free entrance uh... well basically for the for the rest of your life
fourteen euros chip uh... implanted
and uh... top and to call for a month twenty five euros but what we do is we
uh...
new person would pay the 125 Euros for the chip and then they
would, they automatically receive 100 Euro credit on their, on their balance to be put
towards purchases in the club.
So this is another question meant to elicit the answer that shows that the clip, the chip
is being made to look alluring.
These are the carrots that are being dangled in front of people.
Come on, don't you want to get the chip? You get all these perks of the club and the sexy
dancing girls are doing it. It's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty shocking to me that
Conrad can't hear the sarcasm and Alex's voice when he calls his club fabulous. We've
listened to enough of him that that sets off immediate alarms. Uh-huh. But this guy just
thinks he's doing a normal ass interview. Not that the person he's talking to is trying
to set him up. It's wild. I I
It is a fabulous club
Man Alex
The worst thing that happened is he got famous. He got too famous
You know like if Alex stayed within a certain range
There's almost like you can't see him coming. Hmm in the world is, there's no way you see a guy
like Alex coming if you're a bar owner in Barcelona
who's just chipping people because you got super interested
in the chip technology.
And because you probably have a lot of interviews
that you're doing.
Totally.
Because this is being covered by a lot of outlets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you probably don't have time to even like figure out
who are all these people you're doing interviews with.
Nope.
Alex is going to slip through the cracks,
and he is going to fucking exploit it.
And you can't, he can't do this stuff when he's famous.
No.
This is not something he can do now.
If you know it's Alex, then you are fucked, you know?
What is with this?
The profile's too high to trick most people.
Yeah, yeah, this is great.
So there are, I mean, there's a certain amount of this with this profiles too high to trick most yeah yeah this is great so there I
mean there's there's a certain amount of this that Conrad maybe causing his own
problems sure with the way Alex is gonna present this okay I'm reading some
quotes some of the things you said did you say quote the chip will prevail in
the future because in those times the people will use it as cash and getting
rid of the need for a credit card.
I think that the first stage of microchipping of people has reached our country.
This is being launched to appeal to young people in the first place.
Yes, yes. That is a statement that I made, I believe, with a television program from Portugal.
Yes, I believe wholeheartedly in the chip system.
The biggest advantage of
it is that you don't have to worry about carrying cards around with you. You don't
have to worry about them getting lost, stolen, counterfeited. You've got the chip with you
at all times. You can't forget it and nobody can steal it from you.
So that's an interesting statement. The chip will prevail almost like it's a war
well I'm not I'm not a fighter I'm not I'm not not gonna start any more wars the
world but I believe very strongly in the chip in that it well perhaps could
prevent war would good well yeah I think Alex was even surprised that this dude
just said the chipping might prevent wars. Yeah, that's almost too perfect for Alex
on the hunt for
This question is meant to further the idea that Conrad is in on the conspiracy to trick young people into getting chipped as part of
Something bigger and more sinister. That's pretty ridiculous and his answer is right in line with what he is
This guy who manages a bar who's made a plan to differentiate himself from the crowd with early adoption of what he thinks is going to be the next big tech thing. He's wrong, but Alex is very clearly
asking about this quote to twist his words. Like when he says it's going to prevail, you
get the sense that he means as a like, like a payment option or, or something that it's
not like everyone is going to be using it, but it'll prevail in the market.
Yeah. Alex is dancing around the subject because he has to, uh, he has to know that
if you were to just say, Hey, I think your VIP chip thing is a critical piece of the
international's satanic conspiracy to bring about the Mark of the Beast Conrad might just
end the interview. Yeah. And then, then what do you do? You don't have any more fun quotes.
Yeah. I find what I find so interesting about all of this mark of the b-shit and all of these
Ideas and all that stuff is ultimately like if you go back and then kind of just trace the broad strokes
When cell phones became so ubiquitous that everyone had one
Mm-hmm. It made perfect sense to turn all of those like
Conveniences into just stuff that you
could add on or make the phone do.
Everybody already had a phone.
Camera.
Yeah.
Put it on your phone.
RFID chip.
Wallet.
Credit card.
Credit card.
Everything is on your phone.
This is a great example of it.
Like let's look at the credit card aspect.
There are people who can use their phone to pay for stuff.
But guess what?
You can pay for stuff all kinds of other ways. Every other way. It doesn't become the only
method that's accepted or even the predominant method. It's just something that is a convenience
for some people. Yep. And you would imagine that if there were a point where chips became
not ubiquitous, but broadly accepted by people, that's kind of the same way that it would be.
You could put your shoulder up to the reader
as opposed to putting your phone on it.
Totally.
That's the kind of thing I would see.
And that you have your phone with you more often
than, you know, like 98% of the time to the point
where the metadata that your phone carries
knows where you are at all times, you know?
It's like everything that they've dreamt
was inevitable
being chipped to your body just became inevitable
by virtue of how necessary your phone is.
Yeah, convenience.
So Alex asks this fella, if there's a future that he sees
where you would need a chip to get into the club.
Sure.
And his answer is strange.
You ever see a point in 10 years
where if you don't have the chip you can't get in
the club?
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
The people are embracing this technology.
I'm flooded with people who want the chip to be implanted.
And the only thing that's slowing me down from getting more people having the chip
implanted is that it has to be done in a clean, sterile environment.
It has to be done by a medical professional, so I have to schedule that during the day.
It can be done at night in the disco deck.
But you're a perfect atmosphere.
Those people are relaxed and happy, and I know Barrett Chip has been opening offices
in the U.S. for implantation.
True.
And this will, I mean, so you're now a part of the franchise, I guess.
You're going to be a provider of this Well, I guess you could put a little a little sterile office in there and then they have the folks line up
It's true. It's something that I've been working at the
Caution that I have with that is that I would prefer to have my customers not
I prefer to have them sober. I don't want them to be out
Drinking and there are medical
concerns if someone has consumed a great deal of alcohol.
Sure. But his answer there when Alex asks about the future, that's marketing. That's
not a sincere answer, and the demand at Barcelona Club is clearly lower than what he's telling
Alex, saying he's flooded with requests. This is in essence a perfect setup for Alex,
because in order for Conrad to pursue his goals of promoting the club, he has to make getting the chip seem like
an appealing prospect, which is actually exactly what Alex is saying the globalists want him
to do. But his actions pursuing his own wants are indistinguishable from what a globalist
would do pursuing the wants that Alex is describing. Yeah, your personal profit mode leads to the exact same effect
as a globalist evil secret plan.
You're fucked.
Therefore, you're hoes.
There's nothing you can do.
But for seeing the future where you need to be chipped
to enter a club would require you to imagine a future where
clubs are not market driven businesses anymore.
When you're running a service business,
you want to do whatever you can to limit the barriers
to customers spending money at your establishment.
That's why a lot of bars are lax on carding people,
because if you're loose on that, you take a risk,
but you expand your pool of potential customers.
If we had a world where you needed to be chipped
to get into a club, you're putting an unnecessary restriction
on who can give you money.
The only way a business would go for that is if they were forced by the government,
which if that's the case,
then getting into a bar is the least of your worries in that,
that scenario. Right.
That's not going to happen unless everything has changed. Right.
Yeah. I appreciate the idea of like, okay,
cause it makes sense from, from the conspiracy point of view,
the evil corp the evil
People aren't just gonna be like hey everybody gets chipped now. You know you try and make it an attractive prospect
Right, so there's a certain amount of this that does make sense
um
but
boy
I just feel like
And this this could be this could just be personal, right?
I just feel like that the globalist evil
isn't going to choose the Baja Club.
Baja Beach Club?
Yeah, the Baja Beach Club just seems like the wrong.
But it's run by a guy who's on Spanish Big Brother.
No, and I understand all the,
no, no, I understand all the surrounding stuff,
but I truly feel like this, again,
this could just be my personal projection
onto the globalist. I feel like the, again, this could just be my personal projection onto the globalists.
I feel like the name would turn them off.
I think that the better way to do it would be
get relevant pop stars.
It would make sense.
I feel like that would have a far bigger impact
than the VIP section of a bar
that most people are not going to go to.
Yeah.
Hey, you know who's huge at this time?
Kanye West, and I'm sure that'll never go to. Yeah. Hey, you know who's huge at this time? Kanye West.
And I'm sure that'll never go wrong. No. A little way. And have a song about I'm an
alien. Did they have a song like that? Yes. I have a chip. Why not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Why aren't you even Alex brought up that the rapper, Mick G is. No, no, not Mick
G. Daddy. No, big D. Donnie D. The Mac G.
The Mac G rapper. Yes. Very relevant performer. Love it.
So I got to say there are instances in this interview that Conrad makes unforced errors
and this would be a big one. Okay. Well, let's talk more about that. You know,
an army war college document said that we're all going to accept the chip in the next year.
This is where a suspicion should be very much.
And, you know, thanks to the culture.
And so you do see a time in the future where you won't even be able to get in without the
chip.
Yeah, I definitely see that.
I see in the future that the chip will be embraced here in my club, but I believe also
it can take the place of the passport. It could be
a global passport that everyone on the planet would use as a means of passport. The problem,
the limiting factor is the chicken little shy falling syndrome. The same thing that
we went through with Y2K that everyone went into a panic and predicted that uh...
there was going to be a huge blackout and and and well predicted that i think
we've we've all seen that in two thousand year two thousand the change over
from ninety nine two thousand
there are very few problems
i don't know those are if you have if you can really compare
those two
uh... but i i mean certainly I can see that young people
are going to be more open minded and are going to be embracing this and I've seen that.
Oh, that's okay.
Oh, that's okay. So I got to say that was an unnecessary path for Conrad to go down.
Out of nowhere suggesting that the chip could be a new form of a passport, come on man.
I like that.
That couldn't be more precisely what Alex would hope this case would say.
Yeah. This is about as good as it gets for Alex, but we still don't really have a reason
to feel like this is more than a guy who runs a bar saying this. We used to do stand up.
We've met a lot of people who run bars and they often believe in saying things. It's
not that big of a deal that a guy who runs a bar thinks that microchips could replace
passports. Alex has speculated that he's in bed with the IBM and the Chinese government, but that
really hasn't been firmly established.
So there's more work to do on that front, but he's got all he needs on this front.
Yeah.
I mean, as far as like relative eccentricities, this bar owner makes the most sense out of
99% of the ones that I've met in my time.
Yeah. And he is unfortunately seemingly fairly naive and is happens to accidentally
have found himself on it for worse. When he when he said it could be a new passport.
It really feels like at the words, Tergid and to mess it should be a blind. You know
what I'm saying? Like it's insane. This is all just audio, so I don't know. But I would imagine that Alex got up
and is dancing around the room.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's right.
Like the desk goes just a little bit higher.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
You're a joke.
You did not just say that.
Eee!
Oh my god!
So now, in order to further this goal of making Conrad
a more important cog within the machine,
Alex brings him up again this idea
of like you're working with Verichip.
Sure, sure, sure.
Sir, now you seem to be really up on all this
about how we're gonna accept it.
This will be the global model.
Did you have discussions with Verichip?
Is this their idea or did you?
It was all my idea.
I take all the credit for it.
But I mean, your comments about this being the global i d and things that
did you
i discussed this with their trip or was this their idea
you know i have a uh... had uh... in-depth discussions with kief bolton
the uh... the uh... vice president of uh... barricade
i think yesterday just uh... he and i were were discussing it uh... great length
and i
discussed the uh... he and i were were discussing it uh... great length and i it discussed the uh...
you know my my belief in in the system and uh... also
uh... gave a little advice
to him
the uh... that
there needs to be a second uh... source of verification
uh... for example retina scan
on top of the total back of the beast was mr bolton talking about the global
i d system
correct yet he is uh... very very uh... strongly berlin
uh... he informed me of the day that they are in discussion
but leave i i don't want to uh...
quote directly by believe that they do have a signed contract with the italian
government
uh... to implement a uh... test verification system installed in government employees for
verifying their identification.
So here's where Alex is making his move to make Conrad more important than just a guy
who runs a bar.
Now we're getting the insinuation that Verichip is trying to implement a world ID and Conrad
is more or less a front man working with them to make it look cool.
It seems like he's a guy who believes in the potential of this technology and of course
very chip executives would want to pursue a gigantic business application of their tech
like for identification purposes. The idea of a global ID based on this is a bit too
ambitious, but having a contract with a government agency to provide secure identification for
employees that seems doable. That seems basically what they're talking about.
Conrad thinks Alex is a well-meaning person asking him about whether or not a chip business executive believes that their business can expand.
Which is an interesting question.
But in reality, Alex is asking him,
do you have any secret conspiracy conversations with Verichip about how they're gonna force me to get the mark of the beast?
Right.
You kind of start to feel bad for him because there's an earnestness with which he's answering these questions and it's just
being used against him. It is. You see the trap and you see what Alex is gonna do with this.
Right, right. I mean the irony of it is that he's almost far too earnest to ever believe
that he's got an ulterior motive. Yeah. He's just so goddamn earnest. Yeah. You know.
He's just literally like, man, I'm really actually excited about this computer chip.
Kind of makes you understand how we could come in second
on Big Brother.
Totally, yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
I mean, the idea that you could,
this would be a great guy to use
if you're an evil corporation,
but I just don't feel like there's any way
for you to get this guy to really be evil
about something that he likes. Yeah, I think that if you were part of an evil conspiracy, it would be unwise to
talk like this. Yeah. I don't think he would be able to do it. I don't think he I don't
think he's got it in him to lie to Alex about how great something is. If he doesn't actually
believe it's great. If he knows that it's going to hurt you. I don't think he could
avoid saying also this is probably going to hurt you. I don't think he could avoid saying also this is probably going to hurt you. Well, that may be. But he has some other ideas of ways this tech could be used. And
Alex's got to just be like, I heard about special forces of I've been hearing the military
is going to be getting this. That's why I see the one of the largest advantages of this
to be put in the military. I started in the military myself and I know in the indoctrination process you run through
before boot camp and you get your shots and I can see this very easily being implanted
in each soldier as they run through the indoctrination process.
And instead of carrying dog tags, which was always a problem,
that your dog tags would get lost or stolen,
the chip never gets lost or stolen.
It will always be with you.
Well, I'll tell you what, sir.
I know you're very busy,
but I've just got four or five other questions.
We've got a quick three-minute break coming up.
Can we just do five minutes on the other side?
Sure, Alex, no problem.
Okay, thank you so much.
We're talking to Conrad Chase.
Just intriguing. This is intriguing, guys. intriguing what is happening what is fucking happening you
can just feel Alex's excitement I mean yeah it is it look can I can I talk to
you in five minutes I gotta go handle something in the bathroom about five
minutes I know you're super busy but my world you are a big fish and you're on
the line clearly Oh boy.
Clearly I got to get as much content out of this as possible.
Wow.
So one of the things that I just feel bad about listening to this is that I
don't think that at any point really Conrad understands the context of the
conversation Alex is having because Alex is like he's saying this stuff.
Conrad's laughing along with him and it's just oh god
we're talking to conrad chase the director of the bahab beach disco bars in europe
and he's now an applied digital solutions implantation center they're putting all that in
again he's still just planting the customers just bar god during the break i talked to you mr
chase you said you like that if you want to be a vip gotta get the chip that might be a might be a slogan for you later, huh?
I like that Alex is very creative. I think I'm bigger. I might borrow that if I if I may sure go ahead
It's all yours, but but now now
What's the marriage ship a PR line? It's there when you need it or yeah, we're there when you need it
It just feels bad it feels dirty. Okay, that one's not fair
Makes sense as a
If you ask somebody to say the slogan for something make sense come on, you know having sure you know having that information
If you're you know, let's say in Alzheimer's patient who doesn't remember things when you shop at the hospital, it's there when you need it. Boom. Right. If you need to locate your
dog because it's gone missing, totally. Yeah. No, no, no, I understand. But I mean, if you
are, there's no way that anybody could ask me to like, Hey, could you say a slogan for
me without me being like, there's any slogan anybody uses ever is evil for some reason. And well, at very least you asking me to say it.
You're absolutely, absolutely.
So Alex at this point decides to cut the shit
and just lay out that.
Okay, now it's now it's time to.
Well, they're almost done with the interviews.
So I was just gonna be like, all right.
Plot prestige.
But Conrad still, I don't think gets it.
Okay.
Now, let me just be honest with you here
You talk about chicken little scenarios
Yeah, I
have to tell you that
There is a global plan as you said you talked to mr. Bolton and the government's pushing this and you know people talk about
Germany with the papers, please and this tracking and this controlling and having it to buy and sell you think that's coming
I mean, you you know you said that
cv show big brothers coming out to interview you
i mean this this is big brother and and and this is a total control grid
it's got a lot of it i see it being pushed as a vip
thing so that the youth will go out and get it what do you say that
yeah i i think it's uh...
it's a technology that there and and I'm a strong believer in taking advantage
of the technology at hand.
There are a great deal of advantages in using the technology and I think people need to
get over their fears and the, like I used before, the chicken little fears that...
But you're an American.
You're an American.
The founding fathers said don't trust government, limit its size, have liberty, have a bill of rights and you're saying you're not American the founding fathers said don't trust government limited size have liberty have a bill of rights and
You're saying you're not worried about that
But then we created one of the best governments in the world one of the best governments which can be trusted
And and I believe you you need to trust your government and you need to trust technology. It's there
We have to use it so this guy doesn't seem to get that Alex is now just directly saying to him,
I'm accusing you of doing PR work for the mark of the beast that will enslave all of the world's
free people. Yeah. He's too busy living in reality where there's a concern about this kind of
technology, but he takes the optimistic view where businesses and government should be trusted
and the prospects of this technology outweigh its risks. He seems to think that that's the kind of
conversation he's having, but he's very wrong.
I think Conrad seems very naive,
both in how he's dealing with this interview
and how he's viewing the idea of this technology
being used harmlessly for everyone's benefit.
Alex is wrong on the other side of it,
but that doesn't mean that I agree with Conrad either.
Sure, sure.
I think that he's, we, maybe underestimating something.
We were all so naive back then. You know, I think one he's, we, maybe underestimating something. We were all so naive back then.
You know, I think one of the big,
one of the big challenges that we all face now
is that we have this kind of idea of,
I generally know when most people are lying.
You know, like, because there's a lot of lying going on.
You know, you look at the TV, you look at the Fox News,
you look at the Shelster Media,
you see a lot of liars.
And you think, I think I have a handle on when people are lying to me
But that's the scariest part because that's when you get lied to because you don't know you don't know every time
You know, but because you're confident that you can catch it you feel like you're good
I appreciate that this guy is just like I'm gonna bluff my way through it
And I'm going well at very least you saying like I'm gonna believe my way through it. And I'm going, well, at the very least, he's saying like, I'm gonna believe the best in everything.
I'm gonna believe the best in this technology.
It's never gonna be used for harm
or in ways that are hurtful to people.
I'm gonna believe the best in this guy
who's so nice enough to ask me to come on his radio show.
He's such a nice guy.
It's very, it's a better headspace,
but you know, you can see how.
I think you should trust your government.
I think you should trust it.
I, you know, if he's selling globalism as evil and his
but you know and he's accused of being evil and his response is just like yeah
I think the technology is really gonna make things better yeah there's a lot of
the benefits I weigh the negatives and hey you know you can't always distrust
everything I if the devil can pull that trick, now that's some solid stuff where it's like,
Hey man, I get what you're saying. I am the devil.
But what if it's like 51% better than the God? How about that?
Did you think about that? Maybe it's even, but we got 1% better.
So Alex remembers at this point that he said he was in the military. Yes.
And so now now which military?
Well, I had a Dutch boy band.
No, no, Dutch boy band service.
Call the military.
Hey, let me ask you a question.
What did you do in the military?
I'm just curious.
I was in telecommunications.
Oh, telecommunications.
Computer chips.
Yes, I was.
Yeah.
Did you do NSA work or anything?
Excuse me.
What type of work did you do? Well,
in communications, it was I can't really get into it because it was not top secret, but
the secret information form of combat communications. So you're not Alex has asked that question
and he has decided that the answer to yes, the NSA is yes. He's just decided that based on that that answer he's
admitted basically that he was working for the NSA. So now not only is he in bed with
these very cheap people who are owned by IBM and the Chinese government he is now also
an operative of the National Security Agency. Yeah. So we have made him important.
He is no longer just a bar owner.
He said all this pretty wild stuff
about his belief in chip technology.
This is perfect for Alex.
It does feel as though we're at the Coliseum,
and they just toss somebody in with a lion.
And that person was like, I've never seen a lion before.
It starts patting them.
I'm a cat lover.
And then starts pouring like sauces on them. And he just like, Oh, I bet this line will never
eat me. Like this is absurd. So Alex, Alex is wrapping things up. And he's like, Hey,
I think that you should look into these companies that you work. What do you mean? He's evil.
Right? Well, I have to be honest with you. the road to hell is paid with good intentions and i think you need to investigate
very cheap and i'd be in and you need to look at applied digital you need to
look at the the plant they built in china that you said you were aware of
and i think it's very scary for you say no chip will be able to get the club and
in and uh... you know that no chip no let me go in or
having chips in our hands to have guns or
sure i would never uh... in in force force it that that's stringently that you cannot enter my
club without the chip definitely not I do feel that that is a that is an excellent
idea having that for weapons control earlier earlier you said though that's
where it's all going that when everybody starts accepting it it's gonna go to
that you said that earlier I believe it will I definitely believe it believe it will. When the first automobiles came out,
people thought that there was no need for a vehicle that would travel at such, quote,
unquote, breakneck speed.
You know, that's what the Army War College says. They say that's a similar thing. Wow,
you are an interesting fellow. I really appreciate your honesty.
Jesus Christ.
So Conrad's not doing a good job of making his point about whether or not you should need a chip to get into the club
It does kind of seem like he's saying yes and no to that simultaneously
But I think he means that he would not enforce that now but can envision a world where it's the normal means of identification
Yeah, off in the future. It's not actually contradictory, but it's not being expressed well, right?
But you can hear Alex expanding his implications that Conrad is working with the government,
saying that his words are mirroring the Army War College.
Alex saying, you're an interesting fellow, I appreciate your honesty, can be translated
to you naive idiot, I'm gonna fuck you over so hard with this.
It's amazing.
There's such a giddiness in Alex's voice when he's like, you are an interesting fellow.
Yeah, that is the bless your heart of,
oh yeah, wow.
So the interview ends and I would say that Alex is just like,
he's doing great.
Yeah, I mean, he should be smoking.
Yeah.
Right, this is a post-coital interview right now.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got your microchip now and I guess you're part
of the elite VIP circle now.
I'm the first person on the planet to have used it in a nightclub.
Well, that's very interesting and I hope that you will look down into your heart and your soul and get some discernment
and look at the bigger picture of the global ID system that you discussed and ask yourself as a global government a good idea. I mean everybody wants to rule the world and who are these people that are going to rule the
world and how will they use these ships to do it.
Sure. There is no negative aspect whatsoever with a chip. Only positive.
Resistance is futile. You will take the chip. One of the guys who want to be a VIP get the
chip. Hey listen Conrad Chase, thanks for coming on the show. Take
care. Thank you, Alex. Have fun. That guy was reading right off a government script.
Ladies, no, he wasn't. I don't know. Very chip put all these ideas in his head or the
came from the inside as it is secret work. But he'll tell you. So you may notice the
second the interview ends, Alex goes on the attacks.
Secret work.
It's a mysterious way he didn't grill this guy about how he was reading from a
government script while the interview was going.
I have a strong suspicion it was because Alex could tell this guy was a little bit
of a salesman and he was promoting his club, but also what seems to be like a
sincere belief in the potential of chip technology. He has this, he's just a
person who believes that.
He's an early adopter.
There was so much more to gain from that interaction by not blowing
up on this guy and revealing your true intentions in the conversation, which is exactly what
Alex did. That said, because I understand the world this interview took place in, I
feel terrible for Conrad in the real world. This was kind of a boring interview with a
guy who runs a bar and believes in the potential of microchip technology. But in Info Wars world this was a damning revelation of a cocky NSA
hatchet man chipping VIPs at his club to make it cool so kids want to get it to
bring in the world one world government to the mark of the beast. Yeah he almost
couldn't have answered a number of those questions better for Alex's purposes.
Yeah. And it's all just you just see it's like you see like a vase dropping.
Yeah.
And you know you can't stop it.
Yeah, there's nothing to do.
And it's just, oh no, this is going to crash.
It is, it is really interesting sometimes to watch people speak what they think is the
same language.
Mm-hmm.
You know, like all of you, how is it, it is so interesting that people can have a conversation
that ostensibly appears from the outside to make sense
and yet be speaking completely different languages.
And that's kind of one of the reasons why
when I was listening to this initially,
I was like, this interview is just kind of boring.
It's just boring.
But I think based on the way Alex behaves
after the interview, this is an important interview for him.
Yeah. This is like landmark stuff. It is. It is like, if you can imagine, like I imagine
going to an alien planet a billion light years away, you land on there and you can talk to
everyone and it sounds like you're having a perfectly normal conversation in every possible way.
And yet everything
that happens is completely wrong and it's like no it is just a complete
coincidence that the sounds they're making are similar to the ones that you
think are words. Now here's the real question if Conrad had had a babblefish
in his ear right would he been able to translate this that's a good question
because it's the same language right right right I don't think it would work what is it does the Babel fish
understand implied meaning you're the Adams guy I don't know it has to include
idioms probably we'll see but does it include smug sarcasm and fake politeness
from from the point of view of someone confident in their absolute nonsensical worldview. So as the interview has come to an end Alex decides,
I'm gonna congratulate the shit out of myself for this.
I'm gonna pat myself on the back.
It's an absolutely incredible interview and I told you year after year they're gonna have it as a
status symbol to get in certain bars to get in amusement parks and then to do
anything to travel you're gonna have to have it and
Here is one of the minions at an implantation center. They're setting up at the bar. They've already implanted a bunch of the patrons
The CEO telling Mr. Chase. Oh, yes
We're gonna have this global ID and this is gonna be the system and everybody's's gonna have this and I said oh so in a few years to get in the club
you'll have to have the chip and he said oh yes I see that happening oh yes
it's wonderful oh this will stop war oh globally everyone having a chip that's
the plan that's what the military said in 2000 but when you watch the nightly
news oh it's for the old people, the young people, the foreigners, the criminals. Wait, what?
Talked about the Italian government starting to sign up to get it to put it in their government
workers, see the police are gonna have to do it first, and then they'll say, hey, if
I have to do it, you gotta do it.
Cop, she better say no.
Is that how it works?
My government and special forces has been told they're about to get the chip.
This is the new America.
This is the new world,
our new global system. And I mentioned to him, you know, the, Tommy is Chinese on, on
part of it. And they have the factory over in China. He goes, Oh yes, yes, the factory
in Beijing. Oh yes. Oh yes, the factory. Oh, the factory.
And they use applied digital is taken really, really, really owns the company owns the majority
of it. What? Owns the debt on it because IBM doesn't want to run around saying
take the chip bubble ID. So they were not it was I be because IBM has some problems.
They're deep blue right around there. Their biggest contracts were with the Nazis. You
may have heard of them. They might have heard of them. So that's why IBM can't do this.
IBM Nazis. Hey, yeah. All right. There's an interesting dynamic here because Alex isn't
really lying that much about what happened in the interview. Sure. He's fudging
a bunch of the details and adding his own spin onto everything, but for the most part,
he's repeating things that were said in the interview. Yeah. Like for instance, he says
that the CEO of Verichip said that there was going to be a world ID and that's not really
totally accurate, but also not made up. Right. Conrad said that he spoke with the vice president of Verichip and they both thought
it had an application as a passport replacement. The issue here is a disconnect in what's
being discussed. Conrad and this VIP are promoting their businesses. They believe that there's
massive potential for this technology to be used in all kinds of ways which would further
their bottom lines and make them a bunch of money. They aren't announcing a New World
Order plot
to chip everyone, starting with having a couple people
in Barcelona make it look cool.
But that's what Alex is going with.
Like they're announcing this is their plan for a world ID
as opposed to their business would make a lot of money
if they were able to do that.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's what I'm coming back to.
All right, I don't think with our big bads being
Clow Schwab and I mean, Soros isn't even up there anymore,
right?
No, he comes up periodically.
Okay.
He's been, especially with the DAs and stuff.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
So Soros is back there.
He's diminished, but he's ascendant.
Right, but here's what I'm saying.
If the plan people are on the eat the bugs tip,
they're not on the Baja Beach Club tip.
You don't know that.
You can't do both.
But you heard those songs, those Schwab parody songs.
You can see that playing at a Baja Beach Club.
Oh, that's right.
See people shake their ass to that you will eat the bugs.
Oh, now.
It's very easy to imagine.
Now the kids are gonna find that cool.
Yeah.
That is what's going to get the kids going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the adopted kids right there.
So are you afraid of microchips?
Oh, obviously.
I'm gonna make you a little more afraid of them.
Okay.
By the way, yesterday we posted a new microchip
that is a swastika and the company is called
Matrix as a Corlough Group company. I went ahead and went to their website and researched
their corporate filings and one of the heads of the Corlough Group heads up Matrix, a Corlough
Group company. It's a chip that's a swastika and it's called the company's called matrix. I mean it and it's owned by the Carlisle group and was founded by members of the National
Security Agency and I just knew in the last segment with this bar manager that he would
have some NSA work in his past and when I asked, just what he did.
My goodness.
What a surprise.
He didn't say that.
He did not say that. He did! My goodness! What a surprise! He didn't say that.
He did not say that. He did not say that.
He said it wasn't even, he said it wasn't top secret,
but I still shouldn't be talking about it.
Yeah, various methods for like battlefield communication.
Obviously you wouldn't be able to reveal a lot of that information.
It's not phones anymore. That's what I can reveal.
Yeah. So Alex is lying about Conrad's military history. We played that clip earlier, but all Conrad said that
he was in communications. It was Alex that accused him of working for the NSA, but that
was never established. But apparently it's fact now. And see, one of the reasons that
I think that this is a really valuable thing to go over is you can see the way that the
information in the interview is being recontextualized for Alex's purposes immediately.
So they didn't get into specifics,
but Conrad was in the US Army Signal Corps, not the NSA.
He was also, like I said, a contestant on Gran Hermano
and was in the Dutch boy band called the Baja Boys,
but no sign he was in the NSA.
Alex is telling the audience that
because it helps make this narrative work,
that this guy was essentially speaking for the government
popularizing their plans to make everyone get chipped.
This matrix microchip thing is about a company called Matrix, but it's spelled with a C-S.
Sure.
There are a couple people on the board with ties to the Carlisle group,
so Alex has just decided to report that they're a subsidiary of the Carlisle group because why not? Yeah, it's fucking simple.
Yeah!
I went to look at the InfoWars article about this to find a picture of the chip and it kind of
looks like a swastika, but I think Alex might be making more out of this than
is merited. That being said, as it turns out, around this time, some researchers
were finding that the swastika shape worked really well for my purchase. Oh my
God, I swear to you, I was laughing my ass off because I was imagining a world
where everybody's like, fuck, swastikas make the best computer chips. I'm not sure if we have
to choose people were saying that it was very good around this time according to an article from the world Jewish Congress an
optical engineer at Southampton University had found that the symbol has quote at the perfect geometry
for twisting light in a way that can encode information god damn it it! That's too funny! Yeah. It's too funny!
So it may well be that this matrix chip had some passing similarity to Swastika for that reason, but it's not actually Swastika.
But yeah, that is, it is an unfortunate reality that you'd be in order for it to encode information, you bad boy.
Of all, of all, of all the things that a thousand years from now some historian would have to
say the idea that one of them is like Nazis put technology back a couple a couple of decades
because people just couldn't get over the fact that swastika's worked so well.
I mean I might that's amazing. I might be you know I'm not saying that this is true.
I'm just saying that. Yeah.
Irritically. Well I'm that is hilarious. What I'm here to that this is true. I'm just saying that, theoretically, that is hilarious.
What I'm here to say is that I think that the chip itself looks a bit more like a throwing
star than a swastika.
See, yeah, that's great. That's fine.
But, anyway, Alex comes back from break and he is just so thrilled with himself.
Well, yeah, obviously.
Hands down. The interview I just did with the director of the Baja Beach Disco bars big
two thousand five hundred palatial clubs with a half-naked dancing girls at the
big resort you don't know this in the US that has to be the most revealing
wicked interview we've ever done oh I talked to the CEO or we'll all be getting
our global identification chip to have a gun you'll have the chip all the troops
all need the chip if you want to be a VIP in our club you got to have the chip oh I
see a time in the future when you'll have to have the chip to come in our club
oh oh it's such a VIP thing to have the tracker chip we're gonna post that
interview at prison planet comm and infowars comm by tomorrow and I'm
bugging our listeners to
do the transcripts. Do a transcript of this interview immediately. Tens of millions of
people will then read it. Oh my God. We can post it on the website, help us get the word
out. It's just absolutely incredible. That interview, because I shot their sucky man
agreeing with him. No shit. He just came right out with it. I mean, they're gonna, all of
you are gonna take the chip,
global government to travel.
Truly insane.
To buy and sell your microchip in your hand.
So Alex is right that he managed to do an interview
that's illustrated that a guy who runs a bar in Barcelona
is in favor of all of these applications
for microchip technology.
What he actually failed to do is show that this is a plan
that anyone has or that this bar owner believing this means anything.
It's a victory for Alex, but from my vantage point it seems like a hollow victory.
He has all the appearances of a big gotcha, but I don't think any of it matters.
This bar got a few people to get an RFID chips voluntarily for their VIP program and then
they abandoned the program a few years later.
It didn't make getting chips into the coolest thing ever and the kids aren't all secretly getting chips
behind their parents backs. Alex said that was going to happen conservatively within
four years. That would have been 2008. Yeah. Instead we got Obama. True. Very different.
Alex succeeded in tricking a bar owner into saying exactly the things he needed someone
to say. But everything else around this he's super wrong about and it's just I don't know.
Here's what I'm getting from this.
It's hollow.
Here's what I'm getting from this.
I am getting that moderation is best.
You know, like here's what's going on.
I feel like this is a great way to engage with having done a boring interview.
You know, like, listen, I actually think it's kind of interesting
that he's got a VIP room that's also chipped.
That's kind of interesting.
That's a novel.
That's a little fun.
You know, fine, whatever.
But to elevate it into like, oh, this is a secret.
You know, that's more fun.
That's more exciting.
Yes.
I get it.
That's great for radio.
Moderation.
Keep it here.
Keep it there. When you get addicted to this type of shit
Then we get where we are now you want to go like one standard derivation over
Yeah, man, it's it's just that escalation but I also but I also think that what you're describing goes it cuts both ways
Because I think that he Conrad was a little bit too into a lot of this technology.
He was a little bit too into it. I agree. I agree with you very strongly.
And Alex is a little too into his Mark of the Beast conspiracies.
That's what I'm saying.
Moderation is the place in between those two.
Moderation in all things.
Yeah.
It's just how often that continually turns out to be true is very frustrating.
Yeah.
So another thing
I'd like to moderate was Alex's impressions because he's gonna do a lot of impressions
in a short version. Yeah. We need to trust our government. We need to we need to do what
they say. We need to love them. I mean, did you hear all that? It was like listening to it. A demon, a simpering, you know, sweet mouth. And I go, oh, you're
in the military. Well, yes, I was in the military and you were in some classified communications.
And I knew that. Well, I can't talk about it. I, you know, over you in the NSA, well,
I can't talk about it. How did I know that? That wasn't the answer to the NSA question. You decided it in
effect. But it wasn't the answer to the NSA question. But
Alex has just decided that it was because it makes it seem
more like the answer is yes, which is what Alex has decided
no matter what. Yeah. God, how did I know that? See, again,
moderation, that's too far. You don't know that
You see that you could you could have said man, that's an interesting guess
Maybe that's true. Uh-huh that it's still not and it's not an interesting guess
Well, he didn't he Alex also asked him if he's in the NSA
He said he didn't understand the question said asked you said what Alex didn't rephrase that
question or frame that question because he didn't actually want an answer to
that he wanted to have asked this guy this question right it's for the
audience totally a wink to the audience it's like hey I'm accusing this guy
absolutely and you stick there you don't go that extra step to saying actually I
can see the future I am a god genius
there's gonna be more of that so Alex gets back to the subject of the chip
mobile I'm gonna cover this then we'll get to your calls is from info wars.com
directly from ADSX.com or by digital solutions stock website and
embedded microchip seller very chip announces chipmobile it's on the move watch for the
chipmobile coming to your town hey kids so much for the oscar mayer weiner mobile the
beast system is here and very chip is announced that the chipmobile is on the move that's
a quote it looks like a swastika.
There when you need it.
That's a different chip.
That looks like a swastika.
The chipmobile looks like a swastika.
Oh, man.
Too funny.
So how much of that do you think was a quote? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Hey, the Mark of the Beast system is here. Mark of the Beast is coming to your town! Oh god.
I mean, man, if the devil is doing the Mark of the Beast that way, that's the best way to do it, because I'm not seeing it coming.
I'm not seeing the devil coming that way.
Give me out on this.
Okay.
Let's pretend that the Mark of the Beast demon devil system was this chipmobile.
You fucking whiffed devil what a terrible plan
there is a certain amount of somebody needs to be able to push back on the devil
if the devil's plate is the chipmobile that means that there aren't enough people around the devil to be like that's a shit plan
yeah you need to fire your board or whatever because bad ideas are coming through and
Just not working all you all you accomplished is
Getting some senior citizens
Yeah
Evil oh boy so Alex does get back to the Swastika microchip story, the Matrix
company. Right. And you know you're talking about him knowing things in
advance. He kind of screams about that a little bit here. Well this company was
called the Matrix and my wife had posted it on info wars last night. I got online
with a large glass of ice water for several hours and began researching the
Matrix. What? And it didn't take long. Of course before I went to it I knew who I got online with a large glass of ice water for several hours and began researching the matrix.
What?
And it didn't take long.
Of course, before I went to it, I knew who it would be.
And sure enough, it was the National Security Agency.
Because when the chip is a swastika, and the name of the company is the matrix, I already knew.
Because I know the enemy. I understand their control grid.
I've already followed enough of their roadmap. I know what the next piece is, but I never count on that. No, no, no
No, no, no
I knew IBM owned apply digital before I went to their corporate minutes because they're behind it all
I mean all of it. I knew that it would be manufactured by the Communist Chinese military and
certainly it was
Again, I'm not taking this. This is the unified field theory of geopolitics.
And once you know it, it's there.
So yeah, what Alex knew before looking up anything was that he was going to find a way
to twist whatever he found into being part of his larger conspiracies. It just so happened
that one of the members of the board of Matrix, Michael Arneson, had worked for the NSA from 1979 to 1999.
Alex knew that there was a good bet that someone on the board would have a history with a
government agency, so he knew that he was going to be able to hinge a conspiracy on
that.
A testament to how shallowly he actually looked into any of this is if he dug a little
deeper, he would have found that Matrix got funding from DARPA, which would have been
a much more direct conspiracy.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah, yeah, that's what he did.
Why didn't go for that?
Too hard!
The same is true for the claim that he knew that IBM owned advanced digital solutions
before he looked it up.
He didn't know that, but he could be pretty sure that there would be some piece of investment
or some association of a board member that he could twist into his narrative.
IBM didn't own ADS, but they did formerly have a loan going, so that's confirmation of the thing that Alex went into this research knowing
he'd find. He knew he would find something he could work with. If Alex had looked into
ADS and found that Apple had given them a loan, then guess what? He would have known
that going in. Or if one of the big banks that are so evil had given them a loan, Alex
would have known that from the jump. This is a pretty blatant example of confirmation bias in action. Alex has this unified field theory of geopolitics,
which is basically just his way of saying his narrative of reality, the conspiracy. Everything
he finds must comport to that narrative, so when he sits down to search out information,
it magically always does. The claim that Matrix is a Carlisle group subsidiary is a good example. Alex is basing that on the fact that there are two members of the board at
Matrix that have ties to Carlisle. One of them, Brooke Coburn, was at the time a
managing director at Carlisle and the other one, Mark Ein, worked there prior to
1999. But two members of the board also have ties to another company called LCC
International. One of them, Puyish Soda, was the CEO of LCC and also the CEO of Matrix and Mark Ein also worked at LCC.
So why is it Matrix and LCC subsidiary? The reason is because the audience has no
idea who LCC is whereas they've been primed with plenty of talk about the
Carlisle Group due to its association with the Bush administration. So this is
the angle that you go. Also the company isn't the matrix. It's just matrix. It stands for microwave array technology
for reconfigurable integrated circuits. The matrix sounds cooler for the audience though, so
that's what it is. It's the matrix. So yeah, I don't know. I just find this little, this notion
that like, I already knew when I went in. in I knew all this ahead of time because I know the devil's plans
Yeah, it's just it's a little it's a little rough
Yeah, it is it is so much of a of a like I
Don't know it. What would I call it's not hindsight is 2020 I think I think the lesson or something to be learned from Alex is just like when
Alex was doing this, there is something that he's pointing to that is actually so valuable
that we needed to address, which is that there are too many people who are associated with
too many companies. You know revolving door type. Yeah. And then they're all associated
with the government like that is a serious problem. Alex is fucking it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then they're all associated with the government. Like that is a serious problem.
Alex is fucking it up.
Yeah, no, yeah.
As is the case whenever he's adjacent to a decent point.
Yeah, he ruins the actual criticism.
Yeah, if he was, if he was what people attributed him to be at that time,
that ability to point at the real problem
You know while being bombastic and entertaining is an effective tool right that other people
He's not pointing at the real problem
He's not pointing at the real using the sort of optics of the real problem in order to be like ah ha ha
And this is the devil's plan to microchip everyone. Yeah, yeah. It is not about.
Now, if you are the devil, right, you see a spot,
you see a job opening that everybody kind of needs,
which is somebody to be bombastic and to tell the truth,
and you put in there somebody who is almost
all of those things.
No, disagree.
Yeah, the devil's smart.
No, Alex is just not.
I think Alex works for the devil. So he knows all this stuff ahead of time. Yes. Not because he works, the devil smart. No, Alex is just not. I think I think Alex works
for the devil. So he knows all this stuff ahead of time. Yes, not because he works
with the devil. The devil is giving him precognitive abilities, not because of
that. Okay, but because he's a detective. Okay. And of course, it's called the
matrix just just because they want to take good care of you always. And again,
I'm not bragging when I say I know what I'm going to read before I see it.
But if you study this stuff and you know their game plan, well, it's like a cop
who's been hunting after a serial killer for 20 years. The serial killers kill 40 people.
They found these dead women. They found these dead men, whatever. And the cop has seen the serial
killers work so many times when they get the call call and before he even walks into the woods to another scene, he knows what he's going to see.
I mean that's really it.
So here I am every day, I open the brush and walk into the woods and smell the rotten flesh
and well I'm going to see their handiwork again, aren't I?
Same people, same operation, same wickedness.
And again that's my analogy of understanding
these people. Flanting it in your face, throwing it in your face, the destruction of this country
and bringing in the New World Order.
If Alex were like a detective and he was tracking down serial killers, he would see a calling
card for a serial killer, and then he would misinterpret it To be similar to another fake serial killer's calling card.
Or something like that.
I mean, this is just ridiculous.
He's no Batman.
Or it's the government of China.
Any serial killer's calling card is actually
the government of China, communist China.
China Ying.
Yeah.
So Alex, he's just thrilled with this interview he did.
There's a lot of naval games.
He does seem to be very thrilled with himself. There's so much self-cong this interview. He did there's a lot of me to be very thrilled with it
So there's so much self-congratulation very happy and yes tomorrow
In one of the three hours. I'm not sure which one yet. I'll rear the most
Right now disgusting swiney interview. I have ever done
We will do man review with the entity that we had on and I say that in a serious
fashion I will rear the interview with the entity that we spoke with in the last hour
the microchip government creature who was telling us how wonderful it is and how we'll
all need the chip to come in his club and how we'll all have our global chip and he spoke with the same tongue, the same words as the others from this group.
So, you listen carefully to this interview. It is the most, I had goosebumps while this
guy was talking, to be talking to a creature like this is very, very serious.
Dehumanizing there, very serious. Oh, dehumanizing there. Pretty, pretty explicit.
I mean, we have learned that if you want Alex to treat you nice,
just be a globalist.
Say the things you want him to.
No, you have to.
If you want to be nice to you, you have to be being used by him.
Right. Right. Right. Right.
That's that's the that's the trick.
Act like a naive globalist and Alex will be nice to you
Yeah, that is interesting. You can exploit you by being nice. Yeah
exploit Alex via being exploited by Alex
I do believe he had goosebumps during it, but it was more like I'm gonna
Say this is a creature have a bumper for ever. Yeah. Yeah. So most of the rest of the show is taking
calls. Sure. How great he is. You bet. Yeah.
I think that Alex has such a he's so thrilled about this interview that he wants to riff
with people. Of course you want to be like do here when he said I would have basket
this as much as possible. Yeah. So he takes a call and this lady brings up. Hey
This isn't that safe. Someone could kill you and take your chip. Oh
And so you are helping Alex does some impressions also. Yes, and
The thing I was wondering is I was listening to that interview. They're pushy. I'm opposed to this
This is an outrage as much as you are
But when they say there's no drawback,
on an in-planet chip like that, couldn't you kill someone and take the chip, or someone
take the chip out to steal it?
Well, that's it, of course, for high security federal employees.
Well, yeah.
The time that was about to make their employees, according to him, take it. And you heard this
global ID situation. Think of all the crimes this government's committed. Of course it's
insane. Of course it's bad. That's why he was saying, resistance is futile. It's wonderful. Everyone
will take it. You said that.
You're going to take it. I mean, did you hear just the wickedness?
Oh, I did. Yes, I did.
Did you? Did you?
You were so good. Just take a chip.
But all I'm saying, I still...
I expect you to go. When we came to your planet, we came here to help you.
It's for them to keep track of all of us, but I still think, what I'm saying, I still
think there's ways to get around it.
Well, I'm not going to take it, and most people are against it.
They just get up on the news and act like everybody likes it.
This is all psychology.
It's wonderful.
Everyone loves it.
You need to take it.
There have been polls out.
90-plus percent of people hate it.
But the more they go, everyone loves it.
All the stars love it. All the VIP people hate it. But the more they go, everyone loves it. All the stars
love it. All the VIPs love it. The young people, naturally they admit they're targeting it
and go, yeah, it's cool. It's counterculture. I want it. I want it now.
And they repeated enough that the people began to breathe.
That's not bad.
Everybody's for it. You're the cook. But we're the majority.
We're the majority. A lot of voices.
Yeah, that's the type of voice actor.
Number one voice actor.
I was going to say.
But Obama ruined his career. I was going to say that actually is pretty self. A lot of voices. Yeah, that's the type of voice actor. Number one voice actor. I was gonna say. But Obama ruined his career. I was gonna say that actually that's actually
as pretty so. I would buy that on a radio for like a trash for like a serial local ad.
Okay, I'm not giving him that. No, he's not national. That's a local serial brand. That is a
local serial ad. Yes. Um, so yeah, I think yeah I think I think this is a lot of fun
they're having. I think somebody could kill you and take the chip. Good point. I agree
ma'am. I agree. Next point. Where is this energy in the present day being directed towards
Elon Musk. I don't know. That's what you really need to ask yourself as you see the intensity of Alex's feelings about anything involving chips. Yeah, it is. It does lay bare, truly, living in
2024. How much of our lives we thought people cared about behavior when in reality it was just who
was doing it. Or they cared about the thing. Yeah. And as opposed to, yeah. yeah, you and I I thought this whole time
I was like doing a thing is the problem and haha no the problem is who is doing the thing
It's that simple for people and apparently apparently is amazing
I think that you know if you're not cognizant of it you can fall into those traps yourself
I suppose well, yeah, I mean it's like if you think you know when everybody's lying to you you're going to get lied to and
Yeah, you believe it. Yeah, so you think you know when everybody's lying to you, you're going to get lied to and, yeah, you believe it, yeah. So, Alex wants, obviously, these calls
to be about this bombshell interview that he just did.
But unfortunately, some of them aren't.
Oh, no.
And some of them might be a bit troubling.
No!
Alex, you're familiar with it.
Last year, about this time,
through your listeners on your show,
I was thrown into, well, I was throw because i i believe all the things that
you claim to the distracted state of the moment on the not how it's because i was
allegedly not because i was paranoid because i couldn't get through the
competent evidence that you and other people at produce about who really did
nine one one what was really going on
the fact that uh...
there's a globalist takeover and that there's a mass genocide is ultimately
the agenda of these satanic, worshiping, abominable, super rich, the global banking cartel and
all the stooges who are doing the goyum who are doing their bidding.
But at any rate, the longest short of it is that we remember that through your listeners
almost just knocking out the whole circuit on the mental health hospital, we got out
of there in a matter of days. Well, we had this happen again recently by someone who
did a lot of 911 work. Did you escape? We could see the abuses in the court system where
people get rid of the problem. It's the new Shelby Union where you criticize the government.
You're crazy and they arrest you. Exactly. And besides that, you don't like the microchip.
You're crazy. We've got to put in in the nut house. Hey Alex
Did you not hear the part where he's very clearly like anti-semitic?
Did you not hear that that very loud horn? Oh, you mean the goyam?
I feel like that is a piece of this that Alex is just conveniently ignoring. Let's not think about that
This guy as best I can tell because obviously it's just a first name and a state
So I can't I can't look into what actually happened to this person
Maybe not but I would guess that his loved ones probably had him locked up in a hospital because he was
going a little bit off and
You know in those situations you can't hold people for very long
you know, in those situations, you can't hold people for, for very long, uh,
without, uh, without cause. Yeah.
And so maybe a bunch of info wars listeners called that hospital and it just so happened that also that hold that he was under. Yeah. You know,
this is, this is the kind of thing that I could see in the real world,
matching the details of his story. But instead,
the way it's interpreted is I was too onto the real shit. I couldn't,
I couldn't disprove this stuff so everyone thought I was crazy
And so I got put in a hospital and then your your listeners your listeners called and they demanded my freedom
Yeah, the Alex should not be humoring this. Yeah, no, that's that's really that's really fucked up because
Somebody who's aware
of these very specific things for me,
it's voluntary and if it's not, it is very not.
Yeah. It is very not.
But when it's very not, it's still in most states
is not something that can last very long.
Right, right, right, right.
And so if you was put in somewhere involuntarily,
you could be out in a few days.
That's true. That is true. Yeah. Oh man. So we get another caller who's a little bit less troubling. Okay.
That's good. He wants to know what are the odds that Bush is gonna install himself as the dictator over America?
Mmm. And I had a question for you because I was kind of concerned after watching ninety eleven the road to tyranny
and all after watching that
i could see how boys is using the same format like what hitler did and others
to take control of the country
and my question was that i'm worried that what if he decides to let
a massive event happen
before uh... the elections they say like October, November.
Well, they won't let an event take place. They'll engage in it.
Yeah, suppose that he does that, right? And then he suspends the elections and everything to keep himself in power, you know, for, and I don't know how long of a time he could do that for, but I understand he has the power or the billy did it do that and that he could you know proclaim himself as the dictator for this country
uh... just like that
i mean what what are the chances you think of something like that happened
well i'd say it's a bit of a very good chance that's going to happen one hundred
percent of the government plans
he classified documents bomb dc to commit sniper attacks that
hijacked jets by remote control and crash them killing people or are staging fake crashes as a
pretext for control and war. I have misrepresentations of Operation Northwoods and therefore
there's a good chance that Bush is gonna do a giant false flag in order to become the dictator by
canceling the 2004 elections, which we know happened and then four years later all kids are being microchipped because it's cool because
Donnie D. The Mag rapper rapper has made it cool and it all comes back to this fucking Baja Beach Club this is this is the perfect moment though
truly for Alex to have that like all right well here's what you would do to
steal the election all right you would claim that the election results were
stolen and that they weren't real then you would do to steal the election. All right. You would claim that the election results were stolen
and that they weren't real.
Then you would have a faithless electors
slate go to the day and then you on January 6th,
that'd be a great day to do it.
January 6th, that's the number one day to do shit like that.
You know, it would be great.
That would be fun.
But instead, what we get is Alex having a impotent prediction
of something that doesn't come to pass
that he seems very confident about.
Seems to be a trend.
So this caller though, he wants to know
what's the time frame for the next thing
where the globalists are gonna attack?
Don't we all?
Well.
Isn't that really the question of the,
tell me when and what to do?
You can't.
Well, Alex, what timeline do you give this thing?
Like, when is it too late
for people to wake up and actually do something about that? We've been fighting the global
is so successfully that whereas two years ago, they had a timeframe to carry out more
terror by now. Big events here in the US not pinpricks around the world, not a pinprick
if you die, but comparatively speaking, that's what they call it. Yes, they're scare tactics.
They would have already engaged in bigger events.
Right now, I think they're trying to address things,
they're trying to study.
They're kind of like deer in the headlights.
Things aren't going as they thought it would.
There's a massive awakening that's already taken place.
So they're even in a way more dangerous right now,
but overall that's good because now they're a little more
ham-fisted and making a lot bigger mistakes. so we've got them on the defensive right now but we're in the
12th round of a heavyweight battle here. Oh man that sounds like the present day
isn't it always this? The Globals are panicking they're a deer in the headlights
I've managed to because of my wild victories I've been able to make it so
they haven't attacked yet.
This is just constant.
I made a point on our last episode,
about a 2024 episode,
that the globalists are always seeming to be in this state.
Here we are in 2004.
It's all the same.
It's always the fucking same.
I know there is a video game
that is about Alex or whatever. Yeah, I've
heard about that. But if I was going to make one, here's what it is. All right. It's just
a timer. All right. And it's like till the globalists and you know, 10 seconds, right?
And you got Alex in the middle of the screen and you just walk around and if you find a
booze juice, you get an extra 10 seconds. That is the entire game. I was thinking of
a conceptual framework where it's like,
uh-oh, your narrative doesn't make sense,
and then you have to weave through a puzzle.
Okay.
Bend yourself into situations to plug up the holes in the narrative.
So like Snake Butt Alex fits in there.
But you're plugging the holes in the narrative.
I see what you're saying.
I like that.
I don't know how to design a video game.
Neither do I. So we get another caller and they ask, hey,
you talk a lot about how they're gonna bring back the draft. Sure. When's that happening? Yeah, again.
When do you think that they're going to initiate the draft? Well, they've got a total of 11 different bills. It was nine. And it's a universal draft. The draft is back. And some are 18 to 49, some are 18 to 26.
Different versions and they're lined up to pass now.
I would think after the next big attack
that they'll pass a universal draft
and we'll all start becoming their slaves.
So thanks for the call.
We'll be right back.
Oh, that's a condescending a stone.
It's always the next one.
It's always there's going to be the draft after the next one. And you know, I guess
you could always argue that whatever happens isn't actually
the next one. Even though Alex believes that all of these like
mass shootings and all of these these acts have been
obelisk false flags. So shouldn't the next one have
happened? And I mean, even like you could call natural
disasters Hurricane Katrina.
Absolutely.
You know, these are all things that have happened since 2004.
But no, the next one, it didn't do it.
But then the next one will.
Nope.
But then the next one.
Yep.
Next one.
Next one's going to be the draft.
Yeah.
It's happening.
It's right around the corner.
Yeah, man.
It's dark.
Yeah, that's the bleak picture that you get looking at the past.
It is very bleak looking at the past.
So Alex is a little bit frustrated because some of these callers have been plugging things.
And that that is not cool.
That is a little bit annoying.
Yeah.
And yes, I want to take your calls.
And I'm not trying to sound irritable earlier when I'm like,
man, the plug is got to stop.
But you saw it like three, four callers in a row.
I mean, it's like, come on, on folks it's just that's not good radio and I'm here to tell the truth get the information out
and try to make it interesting in the presentation and you know that's why this show is oh boy has
the great distinction of being a number one christian patriot pop show in the country
distinction of being a number one Christian patriot pop show in the country because I don't descend into plugging endlessly. I don't descend into fighting with our patriots, which
is the favorite pastime of all the failures out there. And I wish they'd get themselves
together and move forward against the New World Order. We don't do that here on this
broadcast. We fight the globalist. We expose the evil evil and i'm surprised that more collars frankly
aren't concerned about that interview in the last hour
that is not a lot of it
no you are crazy chip into habit there is nothing to worry about
yeah i mean
soon you come in our club you know you'll have to have a micro chip when i
press him on the set well maybe not I mean that was chilling stuff to buy and sell you gotta have a
microchip I think we've heard this before mark of the beast guys come on
okay here's my pitch mm-hmm all right time machine obviously we've got one mm-hmm
we need to grab one and Alex from January 1st of
You know 1994 mm-hmm to Alex January 1st 2024
We get one every year like this is your life and then we have the Royal Rumble
Oh, they have to fight it out 30 Alex's from 30 years apart
Each one has a completely different
axe to grind with the others. If you allow disagree on everything.
If you allow that old jacked Alex, he's going to win that old that
that when he was a muscle when he was super ripped. Yeah, I think
he's gonna win. Well, okay. Unless it's a seed it. We see it.
Are you talking about a shoot Royal Rumble where they're
actually fighting? I mean, yeah
Well, then the young ones gonna win
But how are you gonna get current day Alex over the top rope? Here's what I'm saying. All right
So the older ones they're gonna team up on the younger one right though
Cuz some of the older ones have to agree with each other on stuff and the other one's some of the younger ones agree with each other
Actually, actually I disagree
I say all of them kill the hottest one immediately.
And it has nothing to do with politics.
They just can't hate.
They just hate being unattractive so much
that they kill the pretty one.
I think that's against the rules of a royal rumble.
But, murder, yeah.
I think it is interesting to note though in that clip
that Alex considers the genre of his show
Christian Patriot Talk Radio.
That branding is slippery.
It is, it is slippery. It is different.
It's also interesting how much this 2004 Alex
would hate who he becomes.
He's opposed to constant plugs and his show devolves
into desperate sales pitches or supplements
in just years from this point.
He's against infighting among patriots
and then he gets constantly obsessed with fighting
with people like Glenn Beck.
Like honestly, I don't know if his show is actually against plugging or in fighting.
Yeah. But his branding at this point makes it more believable when he says that it is.
Yeah. But it also feels weird that Alex is just coming out and saying that he's not getting
the response that he wants from his interview. I suspect it's because he was so polite and
nice with this guy that probably bored most of the audience. They're probably listening to it like they didn't get on. Yeah, they didn't get it the same exact way
He didn't get yeah, Alex can yell about it being proof of the mark of the beast now and that's exciting
But the interview itself probably didn't move the needle for most of the people
Yeah
So it was a boring interview even though after the fact you can do the voices
Yeah, so it was a boring interview even though after the fact you can do the voices
But when he's giving the interview the guy sounds like a regular ass dude. How do you
Fabulous club
But yeah, and then later on you can be like he said
But in the real interviews like no, I wasn't there I was, I did some stuff. The existence of the interview has enough of the like pieces that Alex needs to do the presentation later.
Right.
But the interview on its own isn't as nefarious
as Alex wants it to be.
Right.
The yelling about it later is.
But he's mistaking the fact that he can use it later
with the interview itself actually being useful.
Yes.
Yeah. But it, yeah. Yeah.
So Alex gets another call and this guy, he seems like he's amenable to Alex. Sure. So
Alex is like, come on, man, let's talk about that. Let's do it. Yeah. What did you think?
Did you hear that first hour interview? I did. It was chilling. I couldn't even believe
it. Well, globally, we're all going to have our chips and.
Yeah. He just thought it was so great that we're all going to be chipping, isn't that?
That's true.
We won't have to pay money anymore.
The sooner and blind, the better.
Man, why did you hear this quote, quote, the chip will prevail in the future?
Yeah, I couldn't believe that.
No, it will prevail.
And the guy who seemed under Gideon's brain wash, how cool it was.
No, no, that's all training as a veritip subsidiary seller.
I've had, I think, about four other people on,
including the CEO.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah, I mean, you can play a recording of each one,
and it sounds like the same person.
I mean, it's that bad.
I have no evidence that he's had anybody else's
veritip on.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, but this is fun.
He's just made that up now. Yeah, yeah Fairchip on. What are you talking about? Yeah, but this is fun.
He's just made that up now.
Yeah, yeah, that is fun.
That's a nice little ad.
Oh, no, that's how they train them at Fairchip.
Man, you know, it is sometimes like if you look at stuff
and you wonder what if Alex was what he said he was.
I think that's something I touched on in one of our,
like, really early episodes is the idea of somebody who is vigilant and watchful
and a little bit bombastic is something
that society could use.
If Alex was what he pretends to be,
there is a use for him in a functioning society,
but not the actual thing that he is.
Yeah, yeah, there's two things
that could be a better world.
Alex was who he says he was, or collectively,
we're able to be like instantly,
you're not who you say you are.
Kick rocks, douche.
That we live in the one place where neither of these things
is true is the absolute worst possible outcome.
Yeah, yeah.
So Alex and this guy, you know, they riff a little bit
about the interview, and Alex feels pretty good about that. But I think
it's still eating away at him that
people aren't saying nice enough things about it.
And there's too many callers that we're like about Bush doing a false flag.
Everybody's got their own acts to grind.
Getting thrown into a hospital because he's too anti-Semitic. There's too much other shit
going on. So Alex has just got like, all right I gotta do it myself I gotta just make this entertaining it's
counterculture to not get married it's counterculture to have children out of
wedlock it's counterculture to break things down it's counterculture to be
lazy and stupid and you know oh it's so cool to not know where America is on a
map no it's not cool you really want to be rebellious. You really want to
be counterculture. Join us. Join with the people that love freedom. We're the ones
that love freedom. You are pathetic jellyfish out there. You trendies and the yuppies and
the rest of you. You're not even in the game. Your life doesn't even matter because you've made it not matter. You're a cog, a programmable jellyfish.
You will break the conditioning.
You will break it.
Unlock your minds now!
Come on, people!
Now!
Run and run, believable, attacked or put in dead-y-o cameras in school bathrooms!
That ain't America!
Ah! I'm not a tactor putting deadio cameras in school bathrooms. That ain't America.
Ah!
I just had one of these lunatics on here. When it's soon the global everywhere will have their global chip in them.
Soon our global system, our global ID in your hand. I mean, it's happening.
So this strikes me a lot like, you know, Alex's performance is basically like an angry child
talking about stuff that sounds like what adults would discuss.
Yeah.
And get the feeling that he's still kind of that youth watching his dad's John Birch Society friends yell about bullshit,
and then he's doing an impression of that with any of these issues.
I was just thinking the exact same shit I was thinking this is a
JBS person complaining about beatniks you know this is a oh you think it's cool
to not get married anymore with your long hair you're like what are you wait
what are we doing what are we doing yeah absolutely hold on hold on man you're
the wrong error wrong I get what are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah, absolutely. Hold on, hold on, man. You're in the wrong era.
Wrong era.
I get what you're doing, but wrong era.
Come on, man.
2004 wasn't that long ago.
Yeah, exactly.
It was, but it's not.
But it's not that.
Yeah, come on, man.
So, you know, Alex said that he doesn't plug and he doesn't in-fight.
And then, it seems like he gets into a little bit of infighting. Hmm? Well, again, his book again as usual, The Enemy Within.
And he quoted something from his book, one of the callers.
And he was saying that there's something that's 100 times worse than a dirty nuke.
And do you know what that is?
A clean one.
It's the tongue of the traitors in this country that are against the war and against George Bush.
Oh, that's not a clever... It's the tongue of the traitors in this country that are against the war and against George Bush.
Oh, that's not a clever one.
And they should only arrest him putting forced labor camps.
We have a national show on 450 stations saying put people in forced labor camps.
You're right.
It's terrible and unfortunately, you know, I have gotten to me a video and I've been
giving them out to people.
And it's very hard to break through the brainwashing at the beginning from the neocons on TV and
on the radio
well in rodent airing we show them that there are a star according to
government it's the conservatives
yet the surface they say it's the muslims but all the real trainings for us
i agree michael i think that uh... it's uh...
i agree with you
uh... i guess that it's uh... it's a good idea of the most of the time michael
savage is a oily and, dirty beatnik, okay? He's a fat-bellied socialist
who found out how to really get us. I agree. He makes me want to puke. Can I relate one
other thing to him? He's a demonic dwarf. I mean, just a little while after this, once
Michael Savage starts being nice to Alex, he's a forefather of the Patriot movement one of the greatest
You know that he has experience being a beatnik is actually useful really
I mean this is really just Alex in fighting with other people in right-wing media almost personally
Huh?
Because they're not nice to him and to pay no attention to him and don't
Yeah
Don't support the same conspiracies that he does. Yeah.
So that's, you know, I guess this is one problem Alex does in fight.
He said he doesn't, but he does.
But at least he doesn't plug.
At least he doesn't plug.
He's against the endless plug.
You know, he has to plug.
We all have to plug, but the endless plug.
Yeah, sure, sure.
Sky Television News is reporting that Pentagon sources told them that 130 US troops have been killed.
But you're going to see this broken up into each individual battle and reported in pieces in the newspapers.
You'll have to add them all up to yourself as propaganda tactic.
The London Guardian is reporting that they escalated all of this, again, so the US can stage as the bad cop and the U.N.
can be the good cop and so
they don't have the handover
and now they've blown up part of a mosque which is sure to stir things up even worse
very very serious
yeah you sound like a really good if you final calls my friends
i hope that all of you will get my videos i hope you will make copies of them i hope
you will get them out your friends your family air them on access television
They're waking up 90% of those that see them people's minds are very open right now
See, I mean does give short shrift to stories in order to weave into plugs
So I mean he does still do that
It's certainly not as incessant as it is once he starts doing the supplements
But he still does a fair amount of it. And also, 90% is way down.
Yeah, way down for the 98 and 95s that we're used to.
It was...
What happened?
I don't know.
Probably he had a bad run, you know?
Like, that's the thing about percentages.
You know, like, okay, 50% of the time
you're gonna get heads or tails, you know?
We all know that, but what if you get 10 heads in a row?
That's just as likely. Right? Every single time. 55, 55, 55, 55, 55, 55, 55, 55, 55, 90 though. I mean, like,
if you're talking about the number of data points that Alex presumably has, in order to go down from
95 even to 90, that's a slump. Well, we had 50. We were 49 out of 50. And then boy, now we're 49 out of 56. Unfortunately,
we've just gone way down. So Alex also has a really convenient way to not be wrong there
with the 130 deaths. You're going to, you're going to see reported lower numbers than that.
But that's actually them just breaking it up and blah, blah, blah. No, it's, it's not.
You're just, you've got bad information
And you're not going to admit that it was tentative information that you have reported as factual and complete
Because it's more important that the media is covering things up than any reality of any of these stories
Yeah, that's you know, it's about sewing distrust in the media as opposed to reporting an actual story. Yeah. Yeah, I mean ironically
distrust in the media as opposed to reporting an actual story. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ironically, telling people that this is a propaganda tactic is itself a propaganda tactic. Yikes. Yeah.
So there was also, I didn't play any of this, but there was about a half hour of the show
where Alex complains about TV. Sure. There's a lot to complain about. Sure. The Melt your
brain. Yeah. Makes dumb opioids andioids. And also every episode of The Shield
is apparently about how torture is good.
You complained about that for quite a while.
I wanna return to a world where people all agreed
that torture is bad.
Now it feels like people are no longer agreeing on this.
Well, this mostly had to do with Alex
going to a Chinese restaurant the night before
and seeing on the TV that bald man
Michael Michael know Michael chick was his name but he's just saved the bald man from
NYPD blue or whatever. What's the other show chick was on? I don't know wasn't NYPD blue
detective spowitz? He the bald guy? Franz Dennis Franz. Dennis Franz was on NYPD blue
I know that Dennis Franz. Is he dead?
Chick-Las was the thing chick-Las was the thing the fantastic for
Boy that one that one really sent his career downwards. It did yeah ironically fantastic casting
He was really the only good character. Yeah. Yeah
Poor guy pre-captain America. Yeah. Yeah dangerous
So we come to the end of this and this this was
You know an interesting exercise in Alex doing an interview that's a setup
Mm-hmm, and then paying it off with talking about the interview immediately after
Fleshing out the this is how you interpret
the things he said this is the he's announcing this plan as opposed to just being a guy who's
in favor of these technologies and thinks they're cool. Yeah. I am I will admit. Jealous. I am
jealous of the ability to do something and then inexplicably be proud of yourself for a different reason
Mm-hmm. That is amazing. It is it is because I like there's a lot of enviable self soothing mechanisms
I've done things that I think legitimately I should be proud of and I find it impossible to yeah
I find that to be an incredible
Herdle in most of my life to be able to enjoy
the things that happen. Now, what if you were able to enjoy them for a fake reason? What
if I was able to enjoy the things that I shouldn't enjoy? Well, I mean, I feel like there's
a number you can call and it's how it's hotline. Yeah, that's true. See if you can fix that
for you. There is again, moderation and all all things you should not be Alex and you should not be me
I say things. Yeah, enjoy some don't enjoy others. Yeah. Yeah, so
Yeah, I don't know. I I think that this is maybe if you look at it not that important
Right, but it is actually something that Alex is trying to make one of the most important interviews that he's ever done
Yeah, and in that, it
becomes more important. Yeah. And you can you can see the ways that he engages with information through the analysis of
that. So that's why I thought it was a worthwhile use of our time. And the fact that in the present day, Alex is making
so many excuses bending over backwards to explain away why what Musk is doing is
cool yeah and you look in the past and it's like the devil it is it's one to one
man yeah there's no there's no like oh the context has changed it's literally
not only has the context not changed it's actually freakish that the one thing
that you really legitimately should be like if a billionaire is trying to put
chips in you, I warned you about that before other people did. If there was anything you
were going to do that for. And I didn't play this clip. I don't have a clip of this, but
and in a part of it, when he's talking about that army war college report that is about
everyone getting chipped, he said that they predicted it would happen by 2025, which if
that's the case, he should really be concerned about Musk. God damn it! Of all the things that we have
to listen to you be, that Alex Jones was right about, this one instead you're like,
well hey man, this guy's actually fucking cool. Yeah, he's great. He's a bigot in the
way that I like and he let me back on social media. Oh man. Anyway, we'll be back with
another episode, but tell that we have a website. Indeed we do, it's KnowledgeFight.com. Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are on Blue Sky. indeed. We do it's knowledge fight.com. We're also on Twitter
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