Knowledge Fight - #908: The Secret Mission

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find out what Alex's "secret mission" was.  Turns out, he was invited to do a post-State of the Union show with Tucker Carlson, which is ends up barely involving the State of the Union.

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Oh, indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you, sir. What's your bright spot? My bright spot today, Jordan, is I am, as people know on the streets, I am drawn towards the monstrosity, the novelty of particularly fast food type arrangements. Indeed. And I found what may be the,

one of the wilder ones in a while. Okay. Over at the old Kentucky Fried Chicken. I don't know if you've heard about this. I have not heard of anything going on. Have you heard of the Chitza? I have not. What?

It's a chicken pizza from Kentucky Fried Chicken? What are you fucking talking about? It's a- You stop, you shut your mouth sir. It's a pizza where the Kentucky Fried Chicken? What are you fucking talking about? You stop, you shut your mouth sir. It's a pizza where the crust is chicken. No! No! But it's not like you imagined it, it's not like giant. It's just like a piece of chicken with sauce, cheese and pepperoni on it.

Right, right, right, right. And of course... It's like a little personal pan pizza. Yep. Once I heard about this, there was no stopping me. Yeah, you were already in the lobby, yeah. And so I tried it. this, there was no stopping me. You were already in the lobby. Yeah. And so I tried it. It's fine. It's fine. It's exactly what you think it would be. Exactly what you think it would be. Basically like a chicken parmesan, basically,

but you're eating it by hand and I don't know. The one I got, they forgot to put cheese on it. So it was even like, but it didn't hurt it that much, honestly. I imagine it would really the business end of it is the pizza sauce on the chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's fine. Yeah, it's pizza sauce on chicken. You can go home and make that.

Yeah. I give it a B. It's not nearly as crazy as the idea and the name Cheetah. I think the Cheetah is what? The Cheetah's imagery is is never you're never going to live up to the imagery that you immediately get when you think cheats because I immediately see a big pizza pie with a fucking full ass fried chicken on top of it. You have with KFC I think too. They have such a legacy with

the bowl the famous bowl. Sure. And then the double down double down. You have these absurd what the fuck are you thinking kind of medic? I think that this is not going to reach that level because on its face, it looks crazy, but it's not really that crazy. No, a sandwich where the bread is chicken is crazy. That's crazy. That's still on except only years later. Yeah. This is just kind of like, man, it's fine. It'll, it'll wear out its own momentum. Yeah. So anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is final seven fantasy seven rebirth. Sure. Love it. You're just talking about many games where you get to become a little guy. I started recording to do any double. I mean, I think you can

criticize it in a lot of ways. And I've people do that But what they can't criticize it for is that it is just so goddamn much fun. That's just so much fun Every time I want to not be there. I go. Let me go back in. Yeah, it's just so much fun every time you want out They pull you back in hold me back. Oh, I got to go somewhere. No, I don't know. I do not well That's I mean obviously Congratulations, it's great great I know that it was a big thing for you looking forward to it and I'm glad it's paid off it really did yeah well nothing more nothing more to say really great yeah it's it is you know let's just enjoy a situation where you go I hope this thing's good and then it's great and

you go great hope it doesn't have third act problems. Listen, it will. Okay. Because the third act is in another disc or another game. This is the middle bit. Oh boy. Yop. I don't know why you put up with that.

You're telling me. That's an abusive structure. You're asking me. Well, I hope you continue to enjoy. Me too. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Yes. And it's the payoff of Alex's secret mission. Is it really? We get to find out what Alex's secret mission was. Well, we do. Oh, okay. Yeah. No one trust me. That's

I understand that there's a lot of rug pulling that goes on, but I all right, I deserve it. But look, all right, what do you think it was? I want to say it's got to be a podcaster. I want to say, did he do the shirtless guys? What is it called? The no hockey, no, the the podcast. Krysher the show was on that he got super drunk and they made fun of him was this years ago did I make this up you might make this up no sports no uh rogan no no lagerin to yes lagerin to that's a sports thing right I don't think it it well maybe it's like a towel yes no I guess it I didn't think about it that way because

I don't think they talk the episodes that I've seen have not been sports related. What? Because it's like Alex. But he did get shirtless and get really fucked up and they did make fun of him. All right, so okay. So yeah, you are correct on that. I just didn't associate that with sports. But maybe that's on me.

That's my fault. No, no, no, no. It's just the only thing that I can think of. There's some other podcasts that he's been on in the past like Sam Tripoli's podcast. Sure. Okay. What's up with the trips? I trips I don't know haven't checked in on him I don't bet it's not great probably don't so I'm gonna tell you it's not he was not on flagrant to okay okay you have any other guesses well I mean fuck it Tucker was he on Tucker man oh shit he was on Tucker man I thought I was hoping to get

a couple more bad guesses before we hit I was hoping to get to like Bank Heist or something yeah it was hanging out with Tucker I was I was I was thinking it could go so many different directions and I was like let's just take the biggest wing first yeah wow he they did the live response to the state of the Union to Biden's state of the Union wait well it Tucker's Tucker Carlson network he did video where he did a like after the state of the Union thing and Alex was one of his two guests oh wow so Alex okay that would make more sense because I didn't you know like I assumed that I would hear about it You know like the last time he was on Tucker. I didn't know that

He was going to be but like I saw news about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah this time. I had no idea. Nope. That's not good Don't think it got nearly as much traction as the last time for sure. And I think part of that is because it's like, hey, you know what's interesting? The door being opened. Yeah. You know, it's not interesting. The doors are still open. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, and I think that because there's a couple elements to that that I think is really weird because I think it's maybe more important news that he's continuing to buddy around with Alex. Because the first one, you could be like, this is a desperate cash grab of some sort. This is attention, Alex is hot in the sort of quote unquote subversive circles, shit heads on Twitter. So it could be like, hey, I'm making the most out of this

by associating myself with him. But now it's like, no, no, you really want to associate with this guy This is yeah, you're you're not just exploiting the situation. It appears it appears like you really think that he's got the goods And that's that to me is a little bit more troubling. Yeah, that does that does suggest like either We have no concept of what has legs or no one does either we have no concept of what has legs or no one does. You know what I'm saying? Like, I, cause I can't imagine thinking

if I'm Tucker thinking like, Oh yeah, Alex, this isn't a terrible wagon to hitch my to hitch to, you know. Yeah, but I don't know if it actually is. I mean, like Alex is about to probably have his life destroyed by the courts. Right. And you might be able to buy low. So that's fair. If you're somebody like Tucker who has the Tucker Carlson network, sure. Maybe you see somebody whose life is about to be torpedoed and like his business destroyed, like well that's a fucking free agent who's gonna need

something. It doesn't make the least sense to try and like swing in there. Yeah that is such a good point. Alex is a money making proven commodity over decades. Wow. You know, if you're somebody who's like, Hey, all right, my rule, don't get me sued. Do whatever you want. I don't give a shit. Make me money. That's funny because we we joked about, you know, like Tucker joining info wars. The idea of Alex becoming just working for Tucker as a, Hey, Alex Jones here for the Tucker Carlson Network. That sounds crazy. That sounds, I don't know if he could do, I don't know if he could fully

work for somebody else. You think He would lead to tension as soon as Tucker wasn't sort of on board with whatever it is he just soon as he gives some indication that he is a little globalist that could be trouble. Yeah. Um, yeah. I don't, I don't know if that's exactly what's happening, but that could be some kind of an explanation for why it appears that he thinks there's legs there. But I would offer a counter proposal and that is that maybe we underestimate how nuts Tucker is. It's possible. I think that there is a chance that because he presents himself as

much more sane and sure normal and I was on Fox News and I wore a bow tie sure sure that you have like oh you're not you don't actually think that you're being chased by demons right right right I mean condescension condescension does go a long way towards disguising whether or not you're insane. Yeah. But I feel like, man, if you successfully nab an interview with Putin while he's doing Putin shit,

if you're just crazy, man, I don't know if I can hang with that. Well, I think even if you are crazy in your Tucker, you have some people around you who maybe aren't as crazy. Maybe they handle a little bit of the admin. Yeah, maybe maybe the people behind the scenes behind like directly behind these media people are actually really geniuses in terms of just being able to like point them in the right direction. I mean, from a from a sort of crass money making standpoint. They

know what they're doing. It does seem that way. So we're gonna get into Tucker and Alex talking about the not really talking about the state of the Union. Talk about. There's not much. I mean there are in the real world there is some stuff but instead they they go broad with things. And so we'll get down to business on that. But first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks It's a great idea. So first what did one hand say to the other hat you stay here and I'll go on ahead Thank you so much. You're now policy won't I'm a policy won't thank you very much Thank you next I want a world where any people can grow their own food and weed and protect it with their own guns on their land With children they may or may not abort for whichever religious or moral reason they choose.

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with the first half of the Tucker's response episode because Alex jumps into the at the midway point. Oh, okay. And so here Tucker gives the introduction to Alex and they ruminate on why must why must Biden lie so much? So we are honored to invite into the studio. Honored! For the first time to respond live. Alex Jones who has a different more holistic view of what we're seeing. The great Alex Jones who needs a different more holistic view of what we're seeing the great Alex Jones who needs to I'm sorry most famous people

in American media I knew it was good to you but I'm blessed to be here great crew great people great to be here with you so what I mean just give me a big picture assessment of that I gotta say because we didn't even meet before we went on there I was downstairs writing notes and you basically said everything I was gonna say and so did the doctor but but you asked him a question out of the gates you said why do they lie so much they think we're dumb or what's going on yeah they want to tell so many lies that you have time to counter them all because it would

take five hours to counter all that I mean I gave up in my note taking everything was a lie and I mean the biggest one was like yeah this woman got killed by got killed by a legal alien. We're trying to stop that. I want to shut down the border. He said when I win, immediately surge the border. And then they had the big NGOs, the State Department that funds the UN NGOs have all the illegals come up here. They have UN camps in South America and Central America and in Mexico. and he's running it all. He says, come here. They show up by the thousands in Biden shirts. So he's like, I'm so sad. The illegal aliens are killing you and many of them are convicted felons,

a large portion, and then he's acting dumb and saying, Oh, no, no, I'm really sad. He like, the aliens are raping and murdering. Citizens. So just that little window there, he's playing the good cop to his own globalist policies. So this is a good example of the people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones kind of moment without like saying that folks like Biden just tell so many lies because they know that folks that are trying to rebut them can't keep up. Alex is probably the person most guilty of using those rhetorical tactics and in fact

immediately engages in that exact same behavior after accusing Biden of it. 100%. Biden didn't tell everyone to surge the border. Trump had made it prohibitively difficult for anyone to apply for asylum or refugee status and Biden was saying that when he became president, these people should know that they're welcome to come here. Alex thinks that any non-white immigration is an attack, so he hears that Biden's saying that kind of thing as a battle cry.

The woman who Alex is referring to is a 22 year old from Georgia named Lacken Riley. A man from Venezuela who had entered the country illegally has been charged with her murder and she's become a political symbol in recent days for the xenophobic right wing folks, particularly Marjorie Taylor Greene, who interrupted the State of the Union speech to yell, say her name at Biden. Really? Yep. All murder is tragic and unnecessary, but the way that this case is being used as a means to push legislation that's meant to demonize immigrants

is a bit scary. When you think of who has the least credible voice on issues like this, Alex Jones is way up at the top. All you need to do is go back and view his coverage of the death of Kate Steinle to see how he brings intense levels of his own personal white victim with feelings into this kind of news commentary commentary and he is instantly disqualified. Steinle's death was entirely accidental, but Alex turned it into a story where this non-white immigrant was so jealous of how beautiful Steinle was and so mad that he couldn't have her that he killed her. And less media outlets and politicians engage in this much white victimhood pandering in

their coverage of these issues, Alex will accuse them of supporting a migrant invasion of the country because he's not a person who engages with this stuff seriously and it's all based in this white fear that he has. Yeah. And to pretend that he has a leg to stand on here is ridiculous. No, I mean, it's almost, it almost makes you wanna like, I mean, when, what do you do? How do you react, honestly? Like, how do you react when somebody is like,

ah, I hate it when people do this, and then their next words are the thing they hate. Well, if I didn't do a show about him, I probably would just be like, I'm out. I probably, yeah. Like, it does feel like that is such a, like the emotional reaction to that seems almost, almost like indescribable to me because it is so much like,

I feel like an action is required at that point, you know? An action could be checking out, you know? An action could just be like, oh, I see what you're doing. Totally, I'm good. Absolutely. We're not going to be able to get to the bottom of this. Yeah, you can't argue with somebody.

You can't talk to somebody. You can't be like, aha, you just did that because they know. They have to know. Right. And if they don't know that. And then they'll say, no, I'm not. And then do it again. Yes, exactly.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a lot of fun. Yeah, that's great. So Alex starts to assess the speech and I get the sense that he might have had a couple of Tito's. First he comes out and says, Trump is Hitler and then he moves on to Ukraine.

So it's not about the dying cities, not about the fentanyl and the needles, the illegal aliens everywhere and the homeless everywhere. It's all about Ukraine because that's their big model to distract us and also launder money. So this is a very, very dangerous moment for America and your last guest was dead on. He and the whole establishment so emblematic of a rotting collapsing facade that knows the people have turned against it and it's just pure rage. All the fakeness, all the pop and serpent

stance has been stripped away. Sure. Now there's just the seething ancient dinosaur. In fact, I was watching, you know, earlier during the State of the Union and then sitting here watching earlier. I was thinking, how do I start this? I want to say it's like we're in a time machine looking back on the age of the dinosaurs, the Paleolithic or something or or or something. I mean, we're looking back because we're just time is pressed now. So we're here looking at a dying, corrupt, dead, political empire that hates America and is trying to use our power to take over the world. And it's already gone. The world's turning against it. The Great Awakening is here. All the numbers show it and they're trying to hang on and so we're looking back at Jurassic Park we're looking back at the dinosaurs

but but but the dinosaurs are trying to claw us back into hell I mean take World War two please okay take take World War two it's like we're the dinosaurs Triassic anyways Jurassic Park take World War two for it Biden didn't say that Trump was Hitler and I guess Alex is pretending all that stuff about the hunter Biden Intel being fake didn't He's just pretending that didn't happen Didn't happen so there was a bit all over the place and I know that Alex and his friends like to call the mainstream media the dinosaur Media, but I'm a little worried he dug too deep with that swing might have blown out his shoulder Hmm also Jurassic Park was in the present day. Yeah.

That's not a time machine thing. That's a break of the past to the present. That was the idea. That was it. Yeah. It's a little bit. Anyway, if I'm Tucker, I might be worried that Alex might get him to prank call Brian Stelter at some point.

It does feel that way. And that's kind of something that goes throughout this is that Tucker barely says anything. It is just like wind up Alex and let him go for like three minutes without taking a breath. It's it's wild. I mean, you know, there is something to be said about having a one of those, you know, sound machines, but it's true. And you, you know, you just, you just, it's voice activated really. It's an easy day at the office. Bring in Alex, hit the button.

Siri, make fart noises for the radio. That is, yeah, that makes sense. Say something. Say something about dinosaurs. Yeah. This piratical assemblage of dinosaurs. Absolutely. Yeah. We got a seething ancient dinosaur, which I appreciate. That makes me feel like there's a there's one of those like later dinosaurs, you know, like Triashik looking at Cretaceous like, man, that dude fucking he's pissed. You know, like, I like that. Yeah. So take World War Two. Should what about it? So we're looking back at Jurassic Park. We're looking back at the dinosaurs, but but but instead the dinosaurs are trying to claw us back into hell.

I mean, take World War Two. Operation Valkyrie was the German general staff who were Nazis and bad guys. But they they were like, we're going to lose the Russians. We're going to lose the Americans. We're going to lose the Allies a year and a half for the war ended. Let's kill Hitler. But they failed. It's the same thing. It's the same program has failed. But but, but they failed. It's the same thing. It's the same

program has failed. But but but they're thinking, well, if we just enslave people and arrest people and do all this, they'll shut up and go away. The new world order has already failed. The question is, when Hitler knew who's going to lose, he wrote and said, if the Germans fail on the Eastern front with the Russians,. All the Germans deserved to die. They failed in their week. And so he flooded the German subways. He let the whole Russian army come in. 25 million Germans died, 26 million Russians died. Most of World War II was the Russians,

the Nazis killing each other. And so it's kind of that same thing. The left saying, if we're going down, we're taking you all with us. And then we have Klaus Schwab saying, you will eat bugs. We have Tyson Food saying, we're moving in with crickets as the main batter for your chicken and everything else. I mean, they're really, you've all know, Harari was on late night comedy just last night.

And he's like, yeah, late night comedy over what is happening? That is so incoherent. The through line is almost impossible to follow. And then it ends with boutique talking points about class Schwab making you eat bugs and you've all know a Harari being on some late night comedy. He was on late night comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Of all of her is on late night comedy. The other day. You know that that means that the globalists have failed like in Operation Valkyrie. Right. Which is, I mean, I know the Nazis were bad but they were trying to kill Hitler. Which, you know, Hitler killed Hitler so maybe Hitler was a good guy. Interesting theory. What the fuck are you talking about? So remember a few minutes ago

when Alex was complaining about people rattling off a ton of stuff. Exactly what he was doing. I don't remember. He rattled off too much shit in the meantime. Maybe a little bit. So in this case, if we're trying to track what he's saying, he's saying, is that what we're trying to do? Well, so the globalists are Hitler, right? Mm hmm. And so does he want people to do Operation Valkyrie on the globalists? I thought the globalists were do Operation Valkyrie

on the globalists? I thought the globalists were doing Operation Valkyrie, but failing at it? See? See, there's a lot of ways to read this. It's not very, it's not very... Well, because obviously Operation Valkyrie didn't kill Hitler.

True. So the comparison can't be like, well, it's just like when Operation Valkyrie successfully killed Hitler. Well, see, here's the thing. Most of what he's talking about is this idea that Hitler was trying to drag down the people with him. Right. But that doesn't apply to Operation Valkyrie. No. That is not involved in that. Well, he was beyond being the target of that. Yes. Thematically, there's a disconnect between these two things.

Right. And it's weird that the brain is jumping around like that. It is strange. Also, Tyson does not make a cricket protein the main batter for chicken. Can they even do that? Is that even a thing you can do for Tyson? In theory, they could, I guess.

I know they sell battered chicken, but I mean, it's not. So what happened here is that they've invested in a company called Protix that works with insect-based protein a Major aspect of their partnership is to use the animal waste created by Tyson production to feed insects that are raised by protix Who would then be used in pet and fish food? The reporting on this stuff is really clear that it's not going to be anything that's involved with human food

But Alex knows that the optics are here and he's popularized the idiotic you will eat the bugs catchphrase So you can pass this lie off on Tucker in his audience. It's just ridiculous Also, there may be a little bit of that World War two stuff that may not be fully concrete Maybe a little bit a little bit Here's what frustrates me Here's what frustrates me because I feel like everyone should be able to see where we are, where we were, and then make like predictions about where we'll be. Like for instance, seeing where we are, I think it's easy to assume that conservative lunatics like Alex will be the

first people to embrace eating bugs, right? Like, that like they can't, that you can't be the guys who are like, Hey, we can't have computer't, you can't be the guys who are like, hey, we can't have computer chips inside paper, and then be the guys who are like, oh, they're finally doing it. We're finally gonna get a computer chip inside of us. You can't be both. Well, they are. Unless you are, and then you're gonna be the first people

to eat the fucking bugs too. So just eat the bugs, man! But also, if some hardened survivalist type was like, if you want to survive when the shit goes down, you're gonna eat the bugs. They're gonna eat the bugs. But this will all be entirely different.

Oh my God. It is a little bit silly. Mm-hmm. But anyway, in this next clip, Alex complains about leftists who apparently aren't as good as German soldiers during World War II. That is true. That is just where we're at. They're trying to claw us down to hell with them.

It does almost seem like, I mean, flirting with nuclear war, which they are doing on multiple fronts with no plan whatsoever at all. We're going to finish the job. They never explain what the job was. That's suicidal. I mean, it's not right. It's not going to help them. It's psychotic. It is psychotic. So it does feel like the leaders of the society are trying to destroy the society.

And again, I go back to Hitler, who in his own writing, this is not, in my opinion, he's like, the Germans deserve to die. So we're just going to stand here at Berlin. And they're like, sir, the Russians have entered the subways, flood it, and they go sir we've got a million Germans families, children in the subways, he said they deserve to die. So the left is not giving up because they're disconnected from reality unlike German soldiers who were fighting for an evil force but they were at least fighting the left live in high

rise apartments, they're disconnected from reality, and to them it's all like a video game. And they don't realize, as you were just saying, Macron three weeks ago, yeah, we're going to have a national draft, we may have to send troops in to fight the Russians directly, the British Ministry of Defense, the Swedish Ministry of Defense, NATO officially, yeah. And you've got Sean Penn saying, you know, we shouldn't have nuclear war off the table, it's survivable. What does he know about nuclear war? And it's so you can see it. It is a Sean Penn said nuclear war is survivable. If you look it up, he's like we the quotes basically,

a lot of people say we shouldn't use nuclear weapons in Ukraine or against the Russians. Well, we shouldn't take that off the table. And so that's the mindset of these people. To them, it's like a video game who so that stuff about NATO and all that is not true. Yeah Also, I would suggest that Tucker is somebody who Probably should have every reason to understand what finishing the job means in terms of the Ukrainian war Yeah, he went and interviewed Putin you think he has to have some awareness of the issues here. This is he's playing dumb and it's it's ridiculous. Yeah. But also, it was like last year, Sean Penn was interviewed by Hannity. And he said that nuclear war was

horrible. There's an outcome no one wants. But we should rethink how we operate if only bully countries like Putin's Russia are allowed to threaten to use them. Right. It's a bad like way to articulate the point, but it was a point more about the uneven playing field that favors bad actors. But you framed it poorly and I can understand how Alex wants to pretend that he said we should fucking nuke people.

It's a little bit of a misrepresentation, but whatever. Yeah, I mean, really, you know, it's either... You're either gonna use nuclear weapons, and we all die, which is fine. If we all die, it's fine. If people... I'm gonna go ahead and just put in my disagreement. No, okay, I understand that.

But I mean, if like 90% of people die and then 10% of people left, then they have to like acknowledge it and they can see it. Well, they're gonna eat the bugs. It's horrifying, you know, it's terrible. But if everybody dies, nobody has to deal with it later.

You know? It's just over, right? I would prefer it to just be over than to like drag it out forever and ever and ever as people suffer and died, radioactive poisoning. So the idea of using like just one bomb, that's just not gonna happen. Once you shoot one, you're gonna shoot them all.

Okay, I don't know if that's true, but I would like you to debate Sean Penn. I'm just saying once you shoot one, you gotta shoot them all. Otherwise, otherwise it's gonna be miserable. It's not like Pringles. It's just miserable. It's gonna be miserable for everybody if you don't get rid of everybody, you gotta shoot them all. Otherwise, otherwise it's gonna be miserable. It's not like Pringles. It's just miserable. It's gonna be miserable for everybody if you don't get rid of everybody, you know?

Okay. I think that this mentality is how you end up in a situation where everybody launches everything. Mutually assured destruction is a promise, really. Mm, to you. To you. So, Alex, he watched the State of the Union and he was bewildered because he doesn't watch media much, which I found surprising.

I'm sorry? Main Street media's collapsed. I mean CNN's Top Show, 100,000 Viewers. I was down there in your studio, entrance watching this during the, you probably went live and I was writing notes and I was like, I haven't watched this in years. And again, I was like studying either. I was like an anthropologist, like studying some ancient tribe that died and watching them all.

Well, he's old, but he's really smart and he's great. And they would all like these talking points were regurgitating them. And I was like, but I get it because unlike an ancient tribe that died 10,000 years ago, they're still in control of nuclear weapons, so we need to study them. So nicely put. So well put. So Alec shouldn't be saying that he hasn't watched this stuff in years, because the whole

premise of his show is that he watches the media, and he's able to read between the lines of their reporting to tell what the globalist plans are. If he's saying he hasn't watched this stuff in a long time for years, it really raises the question of what he's been gleaming his information from. And the answer to that is very obvious. Stupid right wing memes and skimming headlines, same as ever. That is what his assessment is based on. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever they say stuff like that, where they think what I'm going to do is I'm going to add extra oomph to my idea that I'm about to present forth by saying I'm surprised at this because I

haven't watched it in so long you know I'm adding extra oomph to the argument I'm making right now except for you have to realize that you have been telling people for 30 years that you watch every single one of constantly you are reading everything studying all the time doing this yeah so now to say that you haven't been doing this for years and and like you could be generous and be like okay he's talking about the state of the union yeah covered it last year exactly you haven't listened to the last several state of the union addresses which means you covered things that you didn't

cover and spoiler alert he didn't probably even watch the full ones of Trumps. Of course not. Just took the clips that were popular in those memes and shit. Yep. So look, honesty is important. We know that. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Yeah. Especially to these dishonest folks. Yeah, I was gonna say. If the hallmark of evil is deception, I think we can say that we're looking at evil. I mean, if you're telling, if the basis of your entire program is a lie, it's not just spinning it a little bit, it's a lie. It's like, it's the inversion of the truth.

And they know it's a lie. And they know it's a lie. Then, I mean, isn't that evil? What's the other definition? Well, that's really it. We have to realize evil is lying. Oh, like in your own life. As I get older, I lie, but I was a kid. I? Well, that's really it. We have to realize evil is lying in your own life. I get older. I lied when I was a kid. I lied. Someone that was an adult. As I get older, lies have consequences.

My whole life is now about not ever telling them. Yes. Like catching myself being honest. Wow. My wife's like, you look at that girl. Yeah, I am sorry. Instead of like, oh, no, I'm not. Because your mind gets trained to be accurate when you stop lying. Yes. Instead, when you lie, it's a disease. And then it takes you over. And these people are literally cancer. And they can find all these fodder, all these mercenaries that'll read their talking points.

But as negative as it is Tucker, you know this. What, three, four percent of taking the new booster shots. And when they rolled the first shot, it was like 70%. People are rejecting it. But there's the converse of that. the dying establishment, like when a woman tries to leave a man that's beating her, they're going to try to break our jaw in the parking lot. We're trying to get the car. They're trying to keep us from escaping.

And so we're at that point, we're trying to get the station wagon with the kids. We're trying to pile them in and you know, the, you know, the drunk mean, you know, is right there punching us in the face. But at the end, is that a personal story? We're, we're, we're getting out of dodge. We're leaving Egypt. We're going on to the Promised Land here. And it's going to take, you know, that archetype of the Promised Land.

It's going to take 40 years or whatever out in the wilderness, but at least we're not going to be slaves anymore. So we're in that process of emancipation right now. They're pissed. They're freaking out because they want control. Any fulfilled person is out fishing or hunting or hanging with family like you and I are. There's a beautiful sunset. We're having a great dinner, playing with our dogs, our cats, our kids.

These people are not fulfilled. They don't have that. If you study globalists, they are the most empty. You look at Soros or Alexander Soros. I mean, they have nothing. So they're projecting their hatred just like a Hitler or Stalin or Lenin on us. We've got to realize they are mentally ill, they are sick, they are cancer, they're malfunctioning. We don't hate them, we just politically cut them out and separate them from

the rest of society and we're at that point right now of the surgery America in the world is going under the knife and lets Pope and pray that a successful surgery. Because if it's not, World War III. It's just amazing that they tried to cancel you and what you just said, even if people don't agree with whatever, it's so much more interesting and smart than anything ever uttered on CNN or MSNBC and I worked at those channels, so I know for a fact.

It's so smart! It's so much more smart and interesting than anything. Okay, okay, I'll take and interesting than anything. Okay. Okay, I'll take him at face value. Sure. If that is true, then Alex Jones needs to be arrested for threatening to commit genocide. I mean, if that's what you- if you want to say that Alex is smart, Tucker, then you just realize that he, like, threatened to commit genocide as a political position. How- how so?

You don't understand the whole cutting things out with a knife part? to commit genocide as a political position. How, how so? You don't understand the whole cutting things out with a knife part? And if not, World War III? Wow. Oh. Maybe. So if that's something very smart, fine.

I will say to you, Tucker agreed. That is very smart. Now put him in jail for good, because he can't be here. Well, I mean, I do think that there's something very interesting about the names that he choosing be, but chose being Soros and Soros's son. Do you think there's something there? Well, I mean, there's, I assume they just share a name. There's no specific thing that they might share that might be a particular thing that sets them off. No, certainly not something about their name

being sort of a decades long buzzword of anti-Semitism. Yeah, definitely not. No. Definitely not something they want to excise out of society because it's a cancer. Those words have never been used before to describe things pre-genocide. So the important thing is truth. They don't

lie. I mean, that's fine. Fine. It's a then God. Then somebody take them at face value and put Alex in jail for that shit. I don't know what to tell you. I do. I do think that if you want yeah if you want to play this game where it's like I don't lie about anything. Yeah, then you need to now be responsible for the things that you've said. And all of the things that weren't lies. Agreed.

We will take you fundamentally seriously. And you don't even get to speak metaphorically anymore. You can't do that politically murder you should. You can't do any of that. Yeah, like it does feel like that has to be the rule for some people of just like, you don't get to use words. You're irresponsible with them and you can't be trusted to use them without hurting people.

Well, I think that the fun thing about this is that it's a lie. The not lying is a lie. And so that's how he evades any of that responsibility. And society has just determined that we go along with it. We just let this be. It is like we would rather spend hours upon hours

upon hours of our lives arguing over what is inside somebody's heart, whether or not they know they're lying, than just not care about whether or not they're lying and just go, your behavior requires this action, the end. Well, doesn't matter what you feel about it. Well, when you're talking about actions Yeah, one of those actions that Alex doesn't take is lying. Oh, so what's the experience not to get sidetracked But it was so interesting what you said about your commitment to just telling the truth

In in your personal life and in your professional life What's the effect on you once you decide? I'm gonna really try not to lie at all ever Your brain is a powerful all our brains are a powerful electrochemical computer. And so, it's like AI when they corrupt AI and give it some woke agenda, it doesn't work right, it messes up. You see the Gemini thing with Google. They want a little bit of a race to the white people, not totally a race. So it backfired down, Google's down 70 billion billion in the market cap huge scandal because it's so ridiculous. So from my own research and studying mainline

literature and scientific research on it that I've already experienced it. So under the research I went out and found that what I'd already experienced was real. When you tell your brain to lie or not be honest, you're really lying to yourself and then you start using all this brain capacity to figure out the lie and to then try to project things to cover up the lie. When you get into a, I'm at a neurotic level, I go in the air and talk bad about myself and bad things that I didn't be able to say, why is he doing that? Because the more I do it, the more my brain cleans out and now it's just laser focused and now I know things much clearer.

And so it's like removing computer viruses. And so we get the point of just not lying. I mean, I mean, I used to tell lies every day. Leftist tell lies continually. That thing is you go the other extreme, all you do is tell lies. So when you start moving away from lies, you get the point where, well, I told one lie this week and that was terrible because it's robbing from you, not just people you're lying to. So I've gotten to the point of almost zero lying and it's super empowering and again

it's cleaning out your computer to where your brain can then operate, not worrying about telling lies, it can just say what's accurate. That's amazing. I sense, strongly sense that what you just said is the key to everything. Strongly. To tell the truth. Period. No matter what. Yeah man. Yeah. The flashback to that clip of Tucker in an interview saying he lies when he's got his back to the quarter and he needs to get out of a situation. He's willing to lie. Oh this is such bullshit. I mean.

This is two dudes just jack it off. It is. It is 100% like a lie. Oh, this is such bullshit. I mean, this is this is two dudes. Just jack it off. It is. It is 100% like I cannot believe that your dick is so big. It's so big. How big is your dick? It's as big as mine. Look at us. The two biggest dicked man in the world. They have no reason to do this other than to just sort of glorify each other. This is not entertaining. No, it's not informative. No, it's not true. It's definitely not true. Yeah. It is. It is psychologically damaging. It is reality. It is it is gaslighting as a profession. And it is. It is like a real choice that Tucker is clearly

making that is to launder Alex and present him in this way that Alex wants to be presented, which to me indicates may be that he wants him to be on his network. Yeah, this is how you would like try and get someone over, you know, if you're if you if you want to try and cash in on them. It does feel as though Tucker goes blah, blah, blah. And then Alex starts talking and in a tuxer's head is just like do do do do. Yeah. Do do do do do do do.

Wow, Alex. That was amazing. I feel like that's the key. That is the smartest thing. But also Tucker has some of his own little picadillo to bring in some of his own concerns. Namely that there's a war on white people. Oh obvious. Back to the behavior, the impulses, the motives of the people running things. Obviously they're incompetent, that's demonstrable. But they're also kind of monomaniac, like they're very focused on certain hatreds.

And I, just judging by what they say, their main hatred is for white people who are the majority of the country. They talk about it constantly, they've set up a whole regime to punish white people on the basis of their skin color, your knowledge to mention it, you're the racist, okay, got it. But I don't think I've ever seen it on clearer display than in a now sort of famous MSNBC segment from last week. I hate to even play their garbage, but this is just so amazing. I have to play it for you. Why are white rural voters a threat to democracy at this point? You would think as we pointed out, looking at Joe Biden's background and Donald Trump's, that the opposite would be true. I mean, we lay out the fourfold interconnected threat

that white world voters pose to the country. First of all, and we show 30 polls in national studies to demonstrate this. We provide the receipts in Chapter 6. They're the most racist, xenophobic, anti-immigrant, and anti-gay geodemographic group in the country. Second, they're the most conspiracies group. Chewing on support and subscribers, election denialism, COVID denialism and scientific skepticism,

Obama birtherism. Third, anti-democratic sentiments. They don't believe in an independent press, free speech. They're most likely to say the president should be able to act unilaterally without any checks from Congress or the courts or their bureaucracy. They're also the most strongly white nationalist and white Christian nationalist. And fourth, they are most likely to just excuse or justify violent

So what there's so many things are interesting about what those two pigs are saying on television and the most interesting to me is That white rule voters are of course the weakest people in America Well when rural people period or rural people that's exactly regardless of race But that none of the supposed crimes that he mentioned, whether they're true or not, are crimes of action. They're all thought crimes. And so they're the most dangerous people in the country, not because they're killing others or embezzling money or getting rich through the carried interest loophole or starting wars, pushing people in front of subway trains. They're the most dangerous because they have thoughts that those two pigs don't like.

It's so interesting. Well, they're not crimes. There's these aren't crimes nor thought crimes. They're voting patterns that, you know, I think we can all agree that that was not a well-fram framed MSNBC piece. Could be worse. Could be better. Perhaps they they don't come off great. But if the argument is this demographic group has a voting pattern that tends towards anti-democratic ideas, I think saying this is a threat to democracy,

it makes sense. But I also think it's probably, you should have rewritten that segment. I mean, it's not a war on white people. It's not a war on white people. What I feel strongly about is that pigs is our word, all right? Ooh, like for cops. The right wing can't use pigs.

They can't use pigs, because the right wing is pigs. That's what pigs are, they're pigs. That's what they are, that's what they've always been. Hippies, till now, they're pigs. Fucking beatniks, till now, they're pigs. Fucking, whatever, flappers, till now, they're pigs. Alright? So it is interesting though that you have this presentation the Tucker is making

That is like they have a monomaniacal hatred of white people and then there's a discussion of a specific Demographic group of white people sure not well not all white people white rural voters right which seems strange White rural voters, which seems strange. Using this as evidence of a war on white people, it could be just as easily argued to be a war against rural folk or whatever, but yeah, I don't know. I think that this is just... Does singling out a group of white people

make it less racist? You know, because it's like, hey, it's not all white people, it's just this specific group that lives here. But what, I mean there's- In West Virginia for some reason. There's talk of, you know, how well Trump does or among white women voters. Sure.

Is that racist or sexist? Ah, boy. I don't know. Who knows. I don't think so. These days. So it is also mostly about the rural voter idea. And Alex, you could hear that little bit of a disconnect between him and Tucker

there where he's like, the Tucker says the rural voter is weak. And Alex is like the strongest. You don't understand the rural voter is my listener. They're trying to sort of negotiate populism. Sure. Within the moment. Yeah. But it is it is all just an attack on the farmers, much like all communists have ever done. And that's what it comes down to. If you remember in June of 2001, when Biden just stole the election in my view and got into power, he put out that national anti-terrorism perspective, national directive, and he said, white supremism is the number one threat. Then he defined white supremism as questioning lockdowns or open borders or forced shots.

And so it's real simple. That doesn't lie. From 10 years ago, that all Republicans are racist. So they're trying to codify the law and then define racist as anyone that doesn't want to give up their cows or their farm or be slaves. What they're threatened by is self-sufficient people because it's a military takeover by the left and by the WHO. And we talked about this when I was on three or four months ago on your show out of Maine. They are literally understanding we've got the cities. We're about to take the dollar We're collapse the border who is the opposition? They're already

Lazing the target that it's the rural people remember I said next it's get the rules They're the enemy and now that talking point is everywhere. I probably saw that clip 30 times last week 50 times the last month and then that's their next target just like when Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin took over just Moscow and a few cities took them five years to take over Russia. Who was the target? The farmers? Cool acts. Because they produce the food and if you get them now you've got everybody.

So they're doing a, as you did a few weeks ago with that incredible lady, a malice slash Stalinist Lenin playbook because it works. And so this is happening. This isn't a question. This is going down. So what's the I wish I didn't agree with that, but the evidence suggests you're absolutely right. Well, Tucker signing off. He's he's hitching his wagon pretty good here, I think. To me, I hear this and I think like, when I've been to all the like food plant fire conspiracies, you know, there's so many other things that he's tried to push

along these lines that have just like kind of like, oh, that kind of didn't have enough gas. You know, there wasn't enough momentum there. So we kind of just gave up on that. But we're retaining the overarching umbrella, which is this war on farmers. Yeah. Now, see, here's where I think that just strategically, it just doesn't make sense to me, right? So if you're the globalists, you get rid of the rural people first, then when you go after the cities, the people are just going to run into the country. You've just opened up space for them to run.

Doesn't make sense. But here's the thing, they already have the cities, right? I mean, that's kind of what Alex was saying. Oh, I forgot that they already have the, but they gotta exterminate 90% of the population. They can't have all the cities. Sure, we do know that that is eventually what the... Yeah, they're still coming after people in cities.

I guess I tire of the sort of shifting strategy that the globalists are using to to kill off everybody. Inevitably that is the you know it's on the Georgia guide stone. Yeah. That is definitely what's happening. Sure. Sure. Every every kind of like whatever the mood is. Yeah. The strategy that they're using and I've always said that it is. It would either be there's too many cooks in the kitchen or one man is whimsical and incapable of impulse control. It's entirely possible it could go either direction. It's either too many cooks or one really messy cook.

Could be, could be, yeah. So Tucker, he's wrestling with why do we even, why do we let in immigrants? What is the point? Which, I mean, deep, deep question, deep question. What is the purpose? No one has ever explained the purpose of admitting 10 million foreigners illegally into the country. So, so we used to hear a Chamber of Commerce, the farm lobby would say, we need the laborer.

No one's saying that now because we don't need the laborer. And you know, people say, well, you know, we're doing it because, you know, there's some reason we're doing it. I haven't heard one person, including Joe Biden tonight, explain why have they done this? What is the purpose? Well, I love how you played Merrick Garland earlier. And he's like, Oh, there's all these races. They're trying to get people from voting. How many cities, how many blue cities let illegals vote in San Francisco? They put a foreigner, not even a citizen on the board of elections in San Francisco. Yeah, Chinese national. Absolutely. So she like a chai con. So they they're just normalizing this. So I imagine no matter how many times

someone's answered that question for Tucker, no answer is it's vice. It's not a sincere question of why why would we allow people into the country? But you can see the little sleight of hand that Alex does there He's asked why we let in immigrants and he immediately starts talking about cities letting resident non-citizens vote in local elections Which he's mischaracterizing because he doesn't lie. This isn't undocumented immigrants voting And it's far less widespread a phenomenon than Alex is pretending He takes that and then he jumps immediately to the case of Kelly Wong, the Chinese woman who is appointed to the San Francisco election board, who Alex calls a chai-com. There's no evidence that she's

a communist or has any ties to the Chinese government, but you know, that's what she is to him, which is telling. If you play close attention, none of this is actually even related to each other. These points are like A, B, C It's all over the place But it all revolves around the idea that Alex and Tucker are actually discussing which is great replacement conspiracy theories That is the tone. Yeah I- what was the last time you heard the word foreigner in like a neutral con- just- just neutral I just want- I just looking for neutral and I feel like the last time was in fucking

The stranger in the fucking French literature. I have to go all the way to French literature Hmm and that book was racist Yeah, it's This is pretty xenophobic pretty pretty hard. And it continues down that road. But thankfully, Alex has a suggestion in this clip as to what can be done. Okay. This is very simple.

So Rome took 400 years of bringing in foreign troops to fall, they didn't do it on purpose. But the globalists look at 1984 as fiction, or they look at Rome and they go, which was historical, and they go, that historical and they go that is a blueprint that is an owner's manual that is a battle plan so that's what the great reset is is accelerating the collapse of western civilization because you don't want in around to compete with the globalist model of eat the bugs and enslavement collapse so they're

actively seeing prosperity and Christian nationalist freedom. God forbid the rest of the world pick up Western culture. So you branded as racist, you say it's bad because it's like kryptonite, you know, to Superman or or holy water and high noon to a vampire. If people say I want my second amendment, I want my new process, I want my capitalism, well then it's over for the Black Rocks and the Googles and the Facebooks. So that's why they're fundamentally branding freedom as a white evil thing because let's face it, Western civilization did develop from Greece on this incredible thing that could uplift humanity.

So you discredit it by making it racial instead of selling it to the world and having everyone adopted and creating unification not through centralization or enslavement but through adoption because it works so well. And so the globalist tyrants are fundamentally threatened by Western Christian civilization and that's why they're at war with it, which is why we should embrace it and that's the great numbers of double the blacks voting for Trump or tripled the Hispanics, what we just saw 10 years ago. And that's why they're in full panic mode,

trying to bring in totally uninformed foreigners from all over who they control and who they can run through NGOs, hoping that they'll be the saviors. So as negative as all this is, I see this as the panic button being hit. So what's the right response for normal people in a moment like this? I think they have to promote your show, which is the number one show in the world.

I mean, not just in news, but just in commentary. I mean, it is. You're up there and Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson. I'm down below that, but I'm really pleased to see you're reaching hundreds of millions of people every day. And really that's not about Tucker Hurlson though It is about you but but that's secondary It's about people resonating with that shows

They have the instinct and the spirit for victory Oh that's false modesty of you're the top show and then Jordan Peters and I'm below that That's fun. But yeah, the solution to everything is always Promote my brand and promote your brand which elevates me because we're connected now. That's great. And then also this is just like, it's always the panic button. Globalists are always pushing the panic button.

It's been, they're freaking out. It's the, they're being forced to act for the last 25 fucking years on his show. Yeah. It's a little bit exhausting. Yeah, I feel like if I were the globalists, I would want to have won by now, or lost, like either way. Sure. Because, and I'm gonna throw this out at you. Here's my thought process, okay?

So in one case, it's Alex's job to always be fighting right right and in the other case theoretically the globalists want to end the fight right so why does it seem as though one of them Is the only one who's doing what they want to do well because the other side maybe is imaginary That's you that that seems like it could be a problem the other side is just a sort of scapegoat and a punching bag yeah yeah I'm a way to attack sort of more progressive social ideas yeah yeah that's that that eternal fight between good and evil man I just I would prefer short bursts like a a short bout, you know? You do good and evil for like five, 10 minutes.

You bring up like a really funny image and that is like some version of the globalists that are just like, all right, now our goal is to constantly be fighting with Alex Jones. I know, right? If so, that they're successful as hell. Yeah, it's the only explanation if they actually exist is it because they're doing exactly what they want to be doing.

We just want to create a way for one drunk idiot in Texas to be rich. That's all that's our nefarious global plan. Even better. Even better. We want to make someone absurd. We want to make somebody who's both insane because they believe things that are true that no one can possibly believe because there's no way we exist, right? So we've driven him insane but we've also made him wealthy which

makes him even more insane which makes him a danger to all of everybody which is a better plan than whatever plan they've had so far. Now we will carry this out starting at the beginning of history on behalf of Satan. Yep. And it'll we're going to have to hit the panic button about a hundred million times along the way. Here's what happened. Okay. Romulus looked over at Remus and was like, man, we're going to have too many foreign soldiers. So we got to start thinking now. Right. Yeah. This is a little silly. Makes sense. So you just got to you got to rally with Alex.

Sure. Alex, all good people need to watch the shows that are cool. Yep. And when you just sit back and go, wait, this can't be real. Klaus Schwab is promoting stuff that sounds like Hellraiser. Well, so is Hitler, so is Stalin. And we realized that this is a evil manifestation that crops up in our species of bad people with power.

The problem is good people don't seek power because we're gonna be left alone, hang with our families, go fish, go hunt, go to dinner, go play golf, I'm the same way. But I'm sorry, folks, good people can't sit there and say, I'm too good for this because we will be destroyed if we don't and that's what evil fears. So the good men and women are now standing up and we're super popular. Every popular talk shows there's no one. Even

Bill Maher poses as a conservative now and I hope he comes all the way over populist. There's no one. It's popular promoting the new world order. old order. So I'm saying look at the positive this of how humans desire and and like a man in the desert wants water freedom. Yes. And all we're doing is promoting the natural programming that works. And so it's easy. We're the winners. We're the victors. We're not the cancer. We're following the program God gave us that is like oxygen and we have to just declare the enemy cancer and just say we're done. Shut them, don't engage in

violence, they want that and just give them no support and the maximum back to truth and we will win. Wow, as I listened to you talk, I'm like why? Why is Alex Jones getting cancelled? Well you haven't been canceled. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, he hasn't been. That's what the answer is. I think that, you know, there's such a obsession with our shows are popular.

And then it's compared to a non-existent thing, which is this imagining that there would be a Joe Rogan type who was like, hey, you know, it's great, one world government. Ah! Like imagining that that is something that there would be a Joe Rogan type who was like, hey, you know, it's great, one world government. Like imagining that that is something that he's in competition with is fun. Yeah.

Now, I think with Bill Maher, in order for him to become a quote unquote patriot, based on everything that Alex has said, like Alex for years was like, everything that comes out of his mouth is the New World Order scripting Uh-huh. He's the mouthpiece of the New World Order Yep

So in order for him to really become a quote-unquote Patriot he would need to come out and say for years They fed me my scripts and all that like he would have to have that far of a swing Yeah, as opposed to him just being kind of the same kind of dick He's always been a little bit, a little bit xenophobic. I think the problem here, right, is that when you've made Bill Maher so evil, he can never come back. Well he can, but it has to be so far. No, but you understand. Here's the thing, if he can come back after being so evil, then anyone can come back. So you have no cockroach enemies. You have no

dehumanized enemies. You have people that you just haven't convinced enough yet. Sure. So now you're telling me that anybody could be saved. Well, yeah, but I think that I think that Alex would say that. I think I think that that is true because I think that they're they're profoundly obsessed with the idea of their enemies coming over to their side. Like if you read his book, if you read the Great Reset book, or maybe it was the second one, I'm not sure. But there's like an obsession with parsing some of

Yuval Noah Harari's words to be like, I sense regret in him. And even the furthest gone can renounce their ways. And I hear like lingering doubt that the globalism is the way to go because that is the, you know, the kind it's it's a it's a distortion of the idea of like the prodigal son. Sure. No, no, no, I understand. I understand. But it's like you can't call people the devil. The devil doesn't come over to your side. But what if he does? No, no, no, I understand. I understand. But it's like you can't call people the devil. The devil doesn't come over to your side. But what if he does? No, that's the point of the story.

But that's a big win. Oh, it's not a win because if he does come over to his... Okay, now I'm gonna try and dig into the story with you. Okay. If he does come over to your side, right? The main thing about him to know is that he lies to you in order to bring you over to his side. So when he comes to yours, he's not going to stay there. So you think Bill Maher is trying to pull a fast one on that? I mean, anybody could be sure. So Alex is nonviolent. You heard that there. He said that the globalist want you to be violent that they're tricky like that Yes, and so he's you know Just that that's that's what he's about. He's about nonviolence that you think

That as things get more intense which they will The people in charge desire violence are trying to provoke a violent absolutely. They can't win in a peaceful fight are trying to provoke a violent. Absolutely. They can't win in a peaceful fight. But you have said contrary to what they say about you, you've said, no, no, remain peaceful. Period. Absolutely. I mean, what they do is anytime you're watching corporate establishment, enemy media, you'll see a three-second clip. That's not folks you're being deceived when you see that. So I'll say like, this is satire. It's the modest proposal by the famous Iris essayist and satirist swift that if the world collapses, I'll eat my neighbors. This is

a joke. But I go collapse of the world leads to that. They go, look, he just said, I'll eat my neighbors. They're deceiving. It's like that refrigerator game. No, no, the little words. You can move the words around a suit or whatever you want. Yes. They basically take our words, move them around, and that's a deception. But when you look at what they're saying, conservatives and populists and Christians are going to kill people and they're going to murder people and Trump is going to be a dictator and he's planning to, you know, enslave everybody. But meanwhile, they're the ones taking him off the ballot.

They're the ones indicting him. They're the ones saying, I mean the Atlantic Monthly that's the mouthpiece of Sauron, the mouth of Satan came out two weeks ago and said, headline was something like, even if Trump wins, we're just going to block him. Well, all Trump did was say I want to attend an investigation, which is constitutional. They said, they were honest, they said, even if he wins, we'll just decertify him. So they've basically indicted him in Georgia for saying, let's investigate. They're openly saying we're gonna disqualify him

and then it's okay. So again, there's a murder of logic. This guy doesn't lie. This guy checks himself constantly and does not lie, does not make things up about headlines, doesn't misrepresent things at all. So I think when people are concerned about Alex being violent they're not talking about him saying

he's going to eat his neighbors people were laughing at him about that that was that was joking and making fun of how he lost his shit and it was screaming nonsense about eating leftist asses and stuff and that he understands that he knows that that was really good for him Yeah, I played into a great driver of attention always a delight think people are a lot more concerned about some of the other stuff Yeah, like his intense violence also, it's I understand But I mean I understand that what he means is he wasn't being serious When he says it was satire right right, but he't being serious when he says it was satire. Right. Right. But he was being serious. He said that if society collapses, you will have to eat people.

Yeah. And therefore I will eat my neighbors. Yes. He was not. There was no there was no facetiousness involved. No, there was no swift with satire. Yeah, because he was not because he wasn't actually saying we should eat. No, no. He was being dramatic and he had a flair for performance, but he was serious. The core concept of what he was saying was a deliberate... He believes that within days everyone's accountable. Less than 10. So he will certainly eat your

neck. Yes, he was arguing that. Yes. Strongly. Yes. He was not satirically arguing that. It was not an empty threat. No. No. So obviously the globalists want violence, but Alex isn't violent and his friends are not violent. And you know, I think history is born that out. They're pacifists. So anyway, there's going to be false flags. That's saying, oh, Trump is going to engage in. And there's white supremacy everywhere. So I think you can do two plus two equals four. We know false flags are real. Provocateurs are real. We know they tried to stage the kidnapping governor Whitmer and multiple trials. People got released. They finally got the third trial. Send a few to prison where you've got a bunch of marijuana. You've covered it detailed. A bunch of potheds, friendly little guys Friendly little guys and then they tell them we'll give you $10,000 a month if you just meet with us and just say you'll kidnap

Whitmer so you're gonna see a lot more of that and and I just we need to disavow that because that doesn't fix it We're winning the the the the culture war So they want to induce us into violence. And they've said they're introducing legislation, the Democratic Party and the House of the Senate to strip Trump of the Insurrection Act, which George Herbert Walker Bush used during the L.A. riots. And they're saying, oh, we know when he gets elected, if he does, there's going to be huge uprisings and he's a white supremacist, so we've got to drive him from office that way so they're planningoking that and hyping that up now as their third rail or their fifth column is the Islamist to then burn the country down within weeks

of him being president-elect and thinking they can terrorize the American people and the establishment into removing Trump somehow during that period. They've already pre-announced that, so I'm telling you now, eight months out, that's their plan. Eight months out, this is what I'm going to say when there are protests about if Trump wins. That's basically, I am going to say that all of this is Hezbollah sleeper cell protests. That is a plan. Sure, sure. And I mean, I think, I don't know how serious anything is about stripping Trump

of the Insurrection Act or anything like that. But I will say that he did say he was going to be a dictator. He wants to be a dictator for a day. So maybe that maybe that's not the worst idea ever. But I mean, I guess you can't really play that game. If you allow someone to be president, you kind of have to let them have the powers. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Turns out you shouldn't have given them all that power. Maybe. Here's my pitch. All right.

Here's my pitch to all people writing laws. All right. When you write a law, you should also think about what would happen when the assholes change their minds. Sure. Right. So when you write that like, oh, marijuana is a legal law.

You should also have written in that clause like, oh, but when those assholes say it's legal, then everybody's free again. You can't, you can't be like, Hey, they're just pot heads and have people still spending life in prison for, for smoking weed. Right? No, like that. You can't do that. You can't, you get, you can have one or the other. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, not cool. It's a bad law writing practice to not think of when those assholes are going to change their minds. Yeah. Yeah. And I love the way that Alex presents here, this stuff

about Palestinians and Gaza. The Israel's I don't like how far they've gone. His whole his whole take on things is giving lip service to the like they've gone. The Israel's not good. But also, I don't want them here. Any kind of like protest in support of Palestinian rights, anything like that is Hezbollah Hamas protests. Yeah. And so he just, I don't know, his take is not good. Yeah. So there's a question of all of this, all of the money is on the side against the Patriots,

all the black rocks and you know, State Street Vanguard. Is it? I don't know, according to them. So how do we deal with this? I mean, I would be encouraged if it was. I would feel a lot better if it was. Well, Alex has an answer to this. Yes. You mentioned the Atlantic, which is owned by a tech oligarch, Steve Jobs' widow,

and almost everything bad in the country is financed by the richest people in the country, I've noticed, the oligarchs. And so all the money is kind of arrayed against the population of the country. That worries me. Can you throw off the yoke if the yoke has, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars? I think we are, thanks to Elon Musk. I mean, you can say you love Elon Musk. We've always passed activities. He's tried to dominate every technology sector. But Christ said, judge a tree by its fruits. And the last two years, let's say it's a 360, like right here is New World Order, right

here is Total Patriot. Musk was already over here. He wasn't a bad guy, but he wasn't perfect. He's moved basically a 3, a 180. So he's like, like, I mean, look, you're, you're the biggest guy in media. No, no, no, no, it's true. Let's just go, let's go. It's not about bragging. It's true. You're the biggest mainline, you know the biggest guy in media. You know, no, no, no, it's true. Let's just go, let's go. It's not about bragging. It's true.

You're the biggest main line, you know, talk show host, I say main line professional show. Okay. There's a lot of people under you like me. Elon Musk is way better than both of us. He's reaching 100 million tournament people a day with stuff you would say. I would say he's devastating them. You don't do that if you're with them.

So Elon Musk is definitely for real because you can't argue with the results. Okay, that's just the way the universe works. This is being powered by X right now, I should just say. No, exactly. And he's not censoring us. No. In fact, he's boosting us, probably.

Probably. Oh, that's interesting. That's weird. That's so weird that you guys are on a platform that's powered by Twitter and you're looking a little bit here. Isn't Alex supposed to be mad at Elon for shadow banning him and not what's happening? I don't know. I just don't know. It's a little bit silly to have these people who are, you know, Tucker is releases his show on Twitter. This is the Elon Musk network. It is. It

really is. It really is designed just to just giving him a good old handy whenever he wants it. Yep. The only hope for conspiracy theorists at this point is David Ike. He's the only person who has the correct position and they're going to regret not jumping on with him. I mean, listen, I feel like this should not be a difficult argument to have and then end quickly. You know, this should be a quick one, right? Is it possible to throw off the yoke of billionaires? Well, I think it is because of Elon Musk. Wrong. The end of end of conversation. Wrong. We have a shit head billionaire who likes to post memes so much he bought a social media site. You have misunderstood the brief. Yeah. So far. Is it is it possible to shake off the yoke of

all of this oligarchical concentration of money? Yes. By licking an oligarch's boots or taxing them. Reorganizing society so that that collection of wealth is not possible. Probably a good idea. No, no, no, no. I think we should just have one billionaire and then have a king and then the two of them can run a country together. Right. We can have that king who has all kinds of absolute power and throws people out of the country because they're immigrants and we don't need that. And then we have this jester billionaire who posts shithead racist memes. You know, I mean, I understand a lot of people don't like the direction this place is going

by which I mean the country or whatever. But man, it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting. It is not going to be boring. Well, it's interesting that you bring that up. That's a good point because the next question the Tucker asks is where are we going to be boring. Well, it's interesting that you bring that up. That's a good point Because the next question the Tucker asks is where are we gonna be in five years? interesting so you're Pretty famous not famous enough for seeing events in some detail ahead of time. You're the only person I think in the world Bill Cooper called 9-11 in detail. You're on tape doing it They're gonna fly planes the World Trade Center some blame been them. That's what you said. I played the tape.

So given, I mean, given your demonstrated ability to get a pretty clear site picture of the future, where do you think we are in five years? We're either in heaven or hell. It's the best of times or worse of times. It's the best of times was worse of times. We are in the crossroads right now. We're going across the point of return and we have maximum effort to expose the evil and be honest ourselves by the problems we have and really try to empower people and reach out across political lines and really turn things around. We have unlimited potential. But I would have to say if you look at the future and it's not like into crystal ball, it's just all the political lines, all the data.

It's a very, I wouldn't say a probability, but near probability nuclear war. And I have four children, one of them, six years old. I have nightmares about this because I know this is real. I agree with you. I don't say this for like fear porn. I mean, a mainline analyst, the atomic, you know, scientist group says we're two minutes to midnight. It's the closest ever been or like a minute to midnight.

And so we have to turn this around because we are entering the system where we're entering the house of destruction and we're so close. So the Chinese proverb of live at interesting times is both positive and negative. We're in very interesting times. The most interesting probably ever in human history, we have like God like power, but we're actually decadent slobs, myself included. And so really it's all up to us right now. We are at that point of decision.

And if we get past the partisanship, but that doesn't mean then it embrace the globalists and the corporate fascists. No, reject them and as populist Christians, conservatives, Hindus, Jews, Christians, Muslims, reject Black Rock, reject Klaus Schwab, reject Navalno Harari, who says the future is not human and we're obsolete and robots will run our lives in a decade. No, we humans are the only species that truly controls this environment. So he wants us to just decide we're animals and we're just receiving information. No, we're going to decide a pro human future. Okay. So where are we going to be in five years?

In heaven or hell. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, like I love the way that this this question is set up Which is Tucker is like you have prophetic powers with precision Yeah, you have specific details that you see in the future call 9-eleven it to a tee by bin Laden even not just 9-eleven But that it would be but not but it would be blamed on bin Laden So we have this like you have laser sharp detail focus. Sure. Where are we in five years? Broad strokes could be anything could be could be the best of times could be the worst of times. Thank you for fulfilling exactly what I asked you to

do. I if I understand correctly, you can see into the future and your future your possible future is it could be from anything to as far away as anything else. It could be the best or the worst, but also nukes. Could it also just be the same? No. Well, I guess that's within the spectrum. Could it be the extreme same though, like the most the same?

It's like stasis, like nobody even takes a step in five years. What if we're all in exactly the same spot in five years now? That's a fucking prediction, but that would be heaven for Alex except well I mean I guess the lawsuits and all that stuff sure not that great Yeah, but the the you know things staying the same is pretty good for him sure Yeah, that is pretty good for him The other thing that I find first I mean just that shit in terms of the question being asked and dodging it to anything

Could be could be good could be bad could be normal anything this idea of Reaching across the aisle is a little silly gotta reach across the this is a little bit It's about reaching across the side the aisle and getting to consensus sure Except the other side's the devil Well, I mean once we kill the other side then the other. Well, I mean, once we kill the other side, then the other side will be us, and then we'll have consensus. Sure, I mean, I guess we have heard this

as something that's been promoted by Alex in the past. Sure. The idea of banning the left. Yeah. And then having two parties on the right. Yeah. That are, maybe we can have a consensus between, maybe we disagree on some of the little details,

but we, you know, ban the left. Ultimately it's fun because it is kind of like a weird almost like just darker version of what we have now, you know, where it's like, ah ha! How dare you ask for a progressive tax! No taxes! But we have to pay for some roads! No roads! What are you talking about, man? This is how we vote. Well, I mean, that's just sort of arch-libertarian. Right, but like, what's the closest you can get to a stable country that only has people who are like 5% flat tax and 0% tax?

Nobody who's like, let's have anything reasonable. Nothing. Just flat tax or no tax. And that's only considering issues that relate to tax. Totally, just taxes, yeah, yeah. You bring in any kind of like how things run. The fucking Protestant Reformation that would go on every five seconds would be insane.

Totally screwed. Yeah. So there's only one real guide stick that you can use. And some might say, Alex should think it's, go with what the Bible says. Oh, you know, he's certainly a man who's I don't think he believes that well Very difficult book. He likes one book in it at least it's the last one Yeah, but instead of that the way you should live your life is see what Disney asks you to do and do the opposite Apparently, that's how you live. Wow. It's real simple. You can study all day like I do and like Tucker does and you can know all the nuances and find it all day which I want

you to do because it's fascinating. Or you can just say whatever Disney and whatever Viacom and whatever CNN tells me out of the opposite, you'll do quite well doing that. I should say not to be dark, but human beings, among other unique qualities, are also the only species that commit suicide. You're right. Well, exactly. We have that paradox because we commit suicide. I mean, why say that? I mean, livings run off a cliff on accident, Buffalo do, but they don't do it on purpose.

Very well said. Exactly. So we have that heaven and hell We have that potential of the little g god We have what I mean what science fiction writers like yule's verne's 140 years ago wrote about Like rockets that take off go to the moon and come back and land again Elon Musk has done it whatever we can envision It's not like Oprah's secret where it instantly happens But with the potential of technology and society and like Elon says, a big enough population. You need billions to build infrastructures that can do anything.

And then once you realize the planet's tiny and there's hundreds of billions of galaxies that are close, I mean, we know that we can see. Then you go, oh my God, we're like embryonic right now. We're like a tadpole. And we're not just like, can we turn to a frog? We're turned to a butterfly. It turns into a spaceship. It turn to a butterfly, we turn to do a spaceship, that turns into a god.

Whoa. So do the opposite of what CNN and Viacom and Disney tells you, but you should also do what Elon Musk tells you to do because he's going to take us to the stars where we become god. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. It's pretty deeply into Elon, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, yeah.

It's pretty deeply into Elon. That's for sure. I mean, you know, the reason we haven't gone back to the moon too much, it's just there's really not much to do up there. Sure. Really not much going on. It's and the amount of logical rock logical advancement and money and investment into building a

rocket that can leave Earth, land on the moon and then come back that couldn't be better put to use doing anything else. Sure. And the ability to go to like anything other than the moon isn't quite there yet. No. So Elon wants to take us to the stars. Sure. Elon wants to make us God, basically. I think if you parse through some of what Alex is saying. Whatever. He wants to turn us into a butterfly. I don't even want to bother.

I don't even want to bother with that. All right. But the globalists, they want to go the other direction. They want to steal our God essence. Sounds good. And they're trying to tell us, no, no, you're scum. You're ugly. You're racist.

Kill each other. Because the globalists want to extract out of us That essence of infinity that God's given us that God essence. We're not God But we're little G that the first book of the Bible tells us they want to extract that and use that for their life extension They're empowerment their greedy control instead of all of us sharing this incredible Magic metamorphosis we're about to have and they're trying to block the birth pains of what we're about to become, but I can tell them you're going to fail.

I mean, amazing. When they go after the interesting people, that's when you know you're in trouble. I always think that about what they did to you. Alex Jones, you've greatly improved in and alive in this thing. Tucker, thanks for having me. I me on your wisdom. Are you kidding? I'm an info wars dot com right now and we're very close to being shut down. But just like Tucker is going to be okay. But it's like they say an empire strikes back imperial troops fit at the base and info wars. So I'm about to get taken out, but it's okay. I love you. The best. The best. You know, that's a different tone that he strikes on his show. I think

I think the moment you're like, oh, when they come for the interesting people, I would be like, I know when I'm being insulted. I know I'm not dumb. I know when the words you say are mean to me. But Alex is like, I know that would be terrible if they came for the you're being mean to me. I'm so interesting. They had to come after me. Insane. But I think, I think that Alex probably that is, that feeds into his self.

Of course. Of course. So yeah, it's, he doesn't realize that he should be like grabbing Tucker and giving him a wedgie right now for insulting him in a way he can't understand. But that I think is maybe a misreading on our part. Maybe he really does think that Alex is so interesting and insightful.

Like, there is a possibility that we have to wrestle with that Tucker just is that guy. That maybe he isn't being like the weaseliest person ever. Maybe he does agree with Alex. Maybe he does think that he's super interesting. Maybe Alex's shit talk about like privately Tucker tells him that a demon threw him on the ceiling. Maybe that's true.

It's possible. I'm going to meet you on the It's Possible. But I will say that. I'm not saying it's the case. I will say that the power of these people is their ability to make you question anything. True. Literally anything. I will say that the power of these people is their ability to make you question anything. True.

Literally anything. And maybe it's better this way. I don't care if he's actually this guy or a weasel. Same response. Wedgie. Sure. No, I think that that's sensible. Yes.

Wedgie is sensible. Well, because it comes back to that, like, Alex saying that he doesn't lie. Yeah. It doesn't matter if you're lying. Doesn't matter. You are Well, because it comes back to that, like Alex saying that he doesn't lie. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're lying. Doesn't matter. You are lying, but it doesn't matter. That's what you're doing. You're making it not matter, right? Which is which is like the secret code. Everybody so meant for all of us.

It matters when we lie. Yeah. For them, it does not know. And what does matter is what is behind it, what you're pushing, what the you know that that really is more consequential than your nonsense about I check myself in a if I lie once in a week, I'm terrified about it. Right. Get bent. I don't care. That's not important. But it's the same thing with Tucker. Does he actually like believe this nonsense that Alex is saying is does he actually think he's one of the most insightful people? Or is he buddying up to him for strategic reasons

and trying to poach him over to his network? Either way, it doesn't matter. The reality is that he's promoting Alex. He's whitewashing him, and he's selling him to an audience in a way as to push him as a sensible sensible person as an amazing person who knows everything and Who has prophetic gifts future? Yeah, and so the the you know whether he buys it or not the damage is the same Yeah, and that's kind of I don't know. Maybe that's the dark takeaway that that I have of this I think it is so it is so difficult because

like that I have of this. I think it is so difficult because like, for us, we are so in this, right? So it's easy, it's a lot easier. But I think for a regular person, like I think of my mom, if she lies about just like, I can't make it to this thing because of blah. She feels, she has a genuine bad feeling of like I did wrong.

And so the idea for her of a person who not only doesn't experience that, but could lie on the like, let's get millions of people killed level and not feel bad has to be beyond her ken. Like that's insane. Or at the very least, obviously she can understand that in the abstract, but at the very least in the practical application of it every day,

of course you're gonna believe people more than not. Like you can't live like that, like those people exist. But they do and they run everything. You know,'re they're Alex they're on your radio what are you worried what how do we do it and they are the people who are most prone to be not be very aggressive about how they're totally yeah totally so they're more convincing because they're lying to you and they don't feel bad about it so The state of the union

Response you got to dig deep Yeah, was that what it was? You got to choose a guest and you get Alex Jones and then this is what happens just the it'll just hold court There there was the state of the union. Is it okay? It's been better. Okay. Yeah Yeah, I feel like it should be a lot shorter speech. Yeah, not good folks. Hey, I was going to end of speech It's bad. Yeah, it's not going great. We're working on it. We are working on it See, I don't feel like this was much of a state of the union response But it was what you get when you invite Alex in which is Pontificating about nonsense a lot of white fear a lot of

rambling and then eventually you get to the stars. Yeah, so It was what it was it did used to feel and Maybe maybe it's my memory. Maybe I'm memory remembering things incorrectly. But it did feel like during the Obama years, the response to the State of the Union was generally, and not always. That was the beginning, I think, of when it stopped being a response to the State of the Union and just like a crazy person going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, evil. You know, like, but I do remember there used to be like, here is what the president said in this part of the speech. I have a rebuttal to that, right?

Did that happen or was I crazy? I think it might have, although we're talking about a completely different genre of things. Sure, sure. This isn't like the Congress response. Right, right, but I mean, that lady was as unhooked. I saw some tweets. Yeah, she was unhooked as Alex. Shit was bad. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. State of the Union. It was a good state of the Union address. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think when you bring in Alex to do this, you're not looking for that. No, you've guaranteed you're not getting that. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that even in the Bush years, you would have gotten the same thing from Alex for sure. If you were for sure. So I don't know if the times have changed that much as it relates to Tucker having Alex on to do this. Good point. Good point. Anyway, still waiting for Owen to be on. I guess he's going to be on Tucker at some point. I'm sure. Second stringer is going on. Tucker. Sure. Sure.

We got Putin. Yep. Alex coming back. Then we'll get right around Yeah, so we'll be back But until then we have a website and do we do it's knowledge fight calm. Yep. We're also on blue sky We are on blue sky at salvage. It's a little bit but tell that me. Oh, Leo T6 car Now here comes the sex robot Andy and ch, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.