Knowledge Fight - #925: May 8, 2024

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex revealing some details of his latest dreams, discussing how people get their news from movies, and hosting a trio of unsavory guests....

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Starting point is 00:00:43 Hello, Alex. Hey everybody! Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are. Dan. there. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little Bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Jordan Jordan quick question for you What's up? What's your price about today? Why don't you go first? My bright spot is that Wednesday? We went and saw the Cubs game my cousin and I weather Beautiful okay, cuz I was really yesterday yesterday was chilly and rainy Wednesday perfect nice beautiful 75 degrees
Starting point is 00:01:27 Perfect Sun not no much not too much cloud. I even got a little sunburn. I've been outside in years whoa Any balls unfortunately no, but it was a it was a really fun game. Yeah, it was a good time It's nice. Yeah, I feel like I would like to maybe take a game in this this spring. I think we should. Maybe it'd be great. Yeah, just being outside, seeing the air. I think I crack of the bat. It's just so I mean, when you when you have a good ball, when you have a good game, when you have a good day at Wrigley, it's just it's there's just nothing quite like it. It's just perfect. It's beautiful wriggly. Mad. It is beautiful Yeah, yeah, well, that's great. Absolutely. It's a great time. It's a good day
Starting point is 00:02:09 Um, except for then I got food poisoning spent all day yesterday throwing up and that's why this episode's late apologies to everybody Did you get bad sushi at the Cuz then I'd be a little bit on me.. That's on me. That's my fault. Yeah, yeah. If I did that, if I was like, oh, I am. Peanuts, Cracker Jacks, hot dog, no sushi. No sushi. Oh, I'm going to try this ballpark sushi.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Not today. No, no, no. No, no, no. Yeah. So that is why we're a little late. But hey, it happens, man. It happens. Sometimes you got to dry heave for a day.
Starting point is 00:02:40 For a full day? Yeah. Yep. It's nice to be cleaned out. Glad you're feeling better. I feel a lot better. How about you? Um, I guess this is a little low stakes or whatever, but I have been inspired by Luke Rude house I'm not actually inspired by him, but I'm taking walks lately. Yes, it's not
Starting point is 00:03:05 Coincidental that he was talking about the joy of walks. It is a little bit surprising So I want to give up a big shout out, but I was taking a walk and I ran into one of those inflatable Guys sure those what those wavy? Side of like a car dealership. Mm-hmm tickled me tickled you you yeah, I hadn't seen one up close in a while Yeah, that's right. You don't you don't have much reason. You know you're not driving. You're not walking past Car dealerships at all generally generally speaking no so this is the first time you would have had opportunity to see one of those the wacky Inflatable waving guy yeah, it brightens your day especially when you don't expect it When it's out of nowhere, you're like, man, people make those. Those exist.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I think that's the problem with those is that they go from being awesome and you enjoy them to being the most boring and ignorable thing that's ever existed in a very short period of time. I don't know. I think I could watch one for an hour. Oh yeah? Okay. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yes. We're going to be talking about have an episode to go over. Yes. We're gonna be talking about May 8th, 2024. All right. Getting some check-ins about various things. All right. And we'll deal with that in a moment. But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So first, can't wait to see you at the live show in Brooklyn or so cool to see you at the live show in Brooklyn. Thank you so much for an hour, policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Oh, an Aopalzeewank. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Oh, I see what that is. That's time variable.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah, you never know. You never know with us. Right, right. Next, Matty from Kansas. Thank you so much. You're an Aopalzeewank. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And Suzanne D in Kansas. Thank you so much. You're an Aopalzeewank. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Do we need to go to Kansas? I think we might. I think we have to just
Starting point is 00:04:46 just as part of the thing. Yeah, maybe. It's part of our thing, yeah. We got a couple technocrats at the Big Jordan, so thank you so much to KNA taking it day by day with two sisters of Celine in southwest Missouri. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. And I can't listen to Knowledge Fight without headphones because my family thinks I'm listening to Alex Jones clips. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home, give them a good teller, you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yes, thank you very much. So on our last episode that we had about the present day, there were two things where we needed to watch the space and see what happened with it. The first was the whistleblower with no internet. They got their internet figured out and Alex had her on it and who cares. So that did actually pay off. Okay, fair enough. In a sense.
Starting point is 00:05:44 The other thing was that Alex's superpowers were developing. Yes. And we have a little bit of an update on that on the seventh. Already? Already? Well maybe. Okay. I don't know. Okay. This is just a discussion of superpowers. I don't know if it's all the new stuff. Right. But on the seventh, Alex is having a conversation with Roger Stone. And so we're just going to hear a little piece of this where he discusses some prophetic dreams he's been having. I think there's nothing that is beyond them, which is why I've said repeatedly I pray for the president's safety and the safety of his family. All right. And
Starting point is 00:06:23 that's why I'm going to go ahead and say this. I wasn't going to say it. I had a lot of dreams that come true. And I'm not saying it's going to come true. But I had a dream a week ago, and I had it again last night. And I told Liz that I had a really horrible dream last week, but I couldn't remember much of it. But it was one of those waking dreams, it's really intense, you wake up in a sweat, really upset. I don't know that happens
Starting point is 00:06:47 to me a couple of times a year and I've had them come true. I've also had them be narrowly averted. So I'm not trying to get into a bunch of metaphysical stuff here, but I had the dream again last night. I remembered almost all of it and it was a bomb on the Trump jumbo jet and it was in the dream, me trying to warn Trump they're going to blow his plane up. And I'm just saying that. I had the dream last week. I couldn't remember much of it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I had it again last time. I remembered most of it. And the dream was me trying to desperately warn Trump. I guess I'm doing it now. I don't, but he's got to check that airplane. Yeah, man. This is, this is, this is his new dream power. Right. It's the same as his old dream power. Yes. We got orange Hawk down. That's what's going on here. So
Starting point is 00:07:32 they've been having prophetic dreams about a bomb on Trump's plan. Although maybe it won't happen because not all of these dreams come true. And maybe he's doing his part to averted by just talking about it on the radio. Okay. I think I already know the answer to this but If one of his dreams is narrowly averted he counts that as coming true, right? So like if it doesn't happen, yeah, but but it kind of like it almost happened like it narrowly averted I think if it doesn't even come close to happening He stopped it by telling Roger about it. Right, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yes. They all come true, that is. Always. In a way, they all come true. Always, it's a self-fulfilling prophetic dream. So Alex gives Roger a little bit more detail about this dream, and Roger seems polite, but maybe unimpressed.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Okay. No, I totally agree. So let me tell you what happened in the dream. And again, it was a very intense dream, and we go, but sometimes unimpressed. Okay. No, I totally agree. So let me tell you what happened in the dream. And it was a very intense dream a week ago, but you sometimes you remember it for a minute, but it's in a subconscious area. And then you lose it. I got up, I got a cup of coffee, I was going to write it down and I couldn't remember it. I had it again last night.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And I was like seeing it in my dream that they're going to have somebody with a small bomb but enough a plastic explosive to blow out the bulkhead and it's going to be the person doing it won't know. It's going to be the press or somebody that doesn't know they're going to slip a bomb into their handbag or into their backpack right as they go on. And so I'm just telling them and I've had these dreams a lot, 20, 30 times in my life. I know a dream when it's like Presidents. How many presidents have died? And I'm not trying to be hysterical here, Roger. I'm just telling you that they need to check everybody's bags getting on that aircraft. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Well, I will say this. The Secret Service detail around President Trump does an excellent job. We've gotten to know some of them. Having spent time with him, They are dedicated to his protection. They're extremely cautious. Alex, it's amazing how many pastors and other Christian prophets contact me knowing that I'm friends with the president
Starting point is 00:09:36 and say, please warn the president to be careful. Please warn the president to be careful about his personal safety. So Alex, I think you've got to decide whether you want to call the Secret Service and tell them about a dream. Yeah, man Tell him you had a dream I appreciate the the he had a lot of control over his tone or something That is that dripping with sarcasm? Yeah, a lot of good. I mean, because I would have really hit that hard. Oh, you want to call the secret service and tell them about a dream.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You know, I think there's a lot of people who are having weird premonitions about Trump's safety, but you have to ask yourself, can you look yourself in the mirror after you call the police and tell them of a dream? I appreciate, you know what? I realized something about adventure time. You know what it is it is what I'm sorry. I didn't mean it What the Roger subtext is there's a time and a place for this yeah, and it's right here Only right here Sorry yeah, yeah, no. I mean that's what I like about adventure time They have a cosmic owl if he shows up in your dream. It's gonna come true everybody knows
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, there's no like oh, maybe this one will come true. Maybe it won't uh-uh. Yeah Yeah, we could use that it would be Alex would just keep saying he saw the owl. Oh, that's true Yeah, you could lie. I'm starting to see a problem with most of human society Yeah So this is the prophetic dream that we have from Alex on on the seventh and I would jump to the eighth and Alex had Roger on again on the eighth Oh, obviously because Trump's trials are going on and stuff and you know, so there's a lot of Trump to cover.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Sure. But the interview itself, I don't really care that much. It ends and just look at this trio of fucking awful guests Alex has on the 8th. All right. I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns. I'm a pretty shrewd analysis of polling data and trends. And I'm telling you, Donald Trump is headed back to the White House. Roger Stone, stonezone.com. Talk to you soon, my friend. Be safe.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Thank you, Alex. God bless you. All right. Dr. Andrew Wakefield and another special guest are he's got a new film coming out. The original OG when it comes to exposing poison shots is coming up next in the entire next hour after that and then Nick point has Two hours on the First Amendment and beyond Please support the broadcast and realize I need your word of mouth your prayers and you to go get great products At info war store comm like nitric boost back in stock 40% off 40% off painful erections from Nitric Boost. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But man, look at that trio. Roger Stone, Andrew Wakefield, Nick Fuentes. That is. What a lineup. That is. Shithead City. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:18 One, I didn't know Wakefield was still out and about. Oh he is, and he's up to some new tricks. I thought we had gotten rid of him. I thought we'd whack-a-mold him. Serious society new tricks. I thought we had gotten rid of him. I thought we'd whack-a-mold him. Serious society has for the most part gotten rid of him and relegated him into a niche area of media. But unfortunately that niche area of media is now the largest area of media. It's growing and the standards of things people take seriously are diminishing. The standards of things people take seriously are diminishing. So he's got a little bit more purchase than maybe he did a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But serious society still wants nothing to do with this piece of shit. No, it's almost advantageous for him to have spent a few years in the wilderness because now it's like, ah, see, I'm back. And everybody's like, oh, you canceled because they were woke or whatever. And he's like, hey, woke can't stop me. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I get it. I get it. And then you get Nick Fuentes. We just got back on Twitter. Jesus Christ. What are we doing with this kid? Elon Musk just let him back on Twitter. What are we doing with this kid?
Starting point is 00:13:15 I don't know. Where's everybody letting this happen? Very unwise for Alex to buddy up. It just has always been and will always be a bad idea for Alex But he decides this is the this is the roster and it's a lot of it's a lot of guests for a show It is a lot of guests for a show. Yeah two hours of Nick Fuentes on the First Amendment It's not a lot about I mean some of it's about the First Amendment So it's pretty fucked up.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I would, I would, if, if, here's what I would say. If we were gonna do multiple hours on the First Amendment, I would suggest that they talk about the First Amendment, like the textual, like do they even read the? No, it's, I mean, most of the understanding of the First Amendment is I can say whatever the fuck I want. But before we get to Nick, Andrew Wakefield comes in. And the reason he's on is to promote a new movie that he's made. Oh God. And this movie is dramatic. It is not a documentary. It is a dramatized story about
Starting point is 00:14:19 someone who is injured by a vaccine. And Alex is just, he's just thrilled with the cast of this thing. Oh no. I notice you've got he's just thrilled with the cast of this thing. I notice you've got some big actors. Do we got a Caviezel? This looks really good. We do. We got Eric Roberts, a wonderful actor. In fact, during the filming he took a week off because we didn't need him. He went and shot two other movies in Texas. I've never known a man work so hard. And I was in fact speaking to his wife last night and they're going to be coming to the LA premiere
Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, I'm really proud to be associated with you. I mean Robin. We're gonna come back with you in a moment We're gonna join some stations. Yeah, man Eric Roberts took to took two movies in a week that he was almost like he'll do anything Yeah, yeah, we were thrilled to have everybody says yes to everything almost like he is extremely available to the point where one might say Almost like he is extremely available to the point where one might say But you don't need to do two movies in that week Yeah, I was looking I looked at the cast list and I didn't see any other names that I neck Necessarily recognized. I don't even recognize Eric Roberts. I do yeah. Yeah, was he from
Starting point is 00:15:20 He's Julia Roberts brother right? Yeah, really? Yeah, I didn't even know that was real Yeah, I didn't know she had a brother. You don't know who Eric Roberts. I kept thinking of Eric Bana No, I don't know. I don't know anything Eric Bana might be a git Eric Roberts just does anything just does anything I think as I understand he had a much bigger career in the like 80s and 90s sure and was in a fair amount of movies Yeah, and then just sort of fell off sure he's been it. He you'd recognize him if you sure I probably I'd probably see him And be do the thing he's Julia Roberts brother. I mean that still means nothing to me fine in a lot of in a lot of ways Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:16:00 Alex is really excited about this movie. Okay, because you know a lot of people get their news from movies I honestly think we might have to turn the show off So many people 20% of the public on average, that's the number as I've seen maybe 25% Get their news from news. Most people just ignore news. They get it from movies and so that's why this is so important as we cover the 25% but the people that really want to know but we're trying to get to the people that don't know that's why this film Protocol 7 is so important. Most people get their news from movies. This is Alex in a nutshell. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yep, yep. 20% or so get their news from news. You think where, you know. But that's too easy. Most people get it from movies. Most people get their news from movies. From a dramatized version of things. Now I might even be, I might even feel differently
Starting point is 00:17:10 if we were like in the 40s and there was like the updates from the wall before every movie. That might even be like, oh. They have news reels at the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there's a point to be made here. No, refuse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 No. But it does explain a lot. Yeah. I mean, Alex thinks movies are news. Yeah. And it's even more obvious because most people, like the way that people work is generally speaking, people find themselves to be slightly more exceptional than the population at large. So if somebody says like, oh, most people do a thing in the larger context is usually in a negative compared to me. Like, I am capable of more than most people. That's the way that, you know, we think, right?
Starting point is 00:17:51 For Alex though, for him to say most people get their news from movies, he's saying that derogatorily and yet at the same time is actually talking about himself. Right. But he thinks he gets it from documents and all this shit. Oh my God. Wild just what a mess. Psychological terror. So a lot of this conversation ends up being about how parents know that they don't need
Starting point is 00:18:13 to get their children vaccinated. Right, right. They know, parents know. They know. A mother knows. Right, so Andrew Wakefield tells a story about his wife saving their child in a pool. And it doesn't make the point, but Alex seems to think it makes the point and also is very
Starting point is 00:18:32 confused by the story. Okay. Let me give you a story because this is so important. It goes to this. If you've got time for a story, Alex, I'm a storyteller. It's old Roger Stone. I was on holiday with my family on vacation in southern Spain in a villa up in the hills with my ex-wife and my four children.
Starting point is 00:18:50 They were very young at the time and we were up in one of the bedrooms because my second son had a fever and we were up there and my wife was sitting on the bed mopping his brow and the rest of us were there. And then suddenly she leapt up, she ran across the bedroom, she ran down the stairs, she ran through the kitchen, she ran across the courtyard, she ran across the second courtyard, into the pool area and just dived full length into the pool just before my baby daughter took her last step to be out of her depth and to certain death. Where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yep. How did she know? I didn't know. She just knew something inside her, something visceral, not something- Well, tell the full story, the baby daughter? Absolutely fine, saved her. But with-
Starting point is 00:19:39 Well, explain the story. I'm missing it. She's there, you're- The baby daughter had gone. She'd gone out, we hadn't noticed it. She'd gone to the story. I'm missing him. She's there your baby daughter had gone. She'd we'd she'd gone out We hadn't noticed it. She'd gone to the pool. She was going down the steps to certain death Oh, well, your wife literally picked it up in around you. She just knew she had that six cents Incredible and the reason you ran down and saved her. Yeah, these two were once one
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, they were connected and they will never be apart. They were once one body. It was absolutely fascinating And it's all right. Mr. First Park. That's amazing. So she literally psychically picks up my daughter's about to drown. Absolutely None of us none of the rest of us in the room had any clue and she knew it was the most vivid sort of insight into psychic power You saw her like just rise up and run directly to where it was no explanation she didn't it wasn't that she was you know about the jump off a cliff it wasn't that she was out in the highway it was the pool she was about to drown go back slowly describe it you're
Starting point is 00:20:40 sitting I'm sorry what this from the top are we doing this again I guess so see is a little slow on the pickup, but he kind of gets what he's saying. So now I think there's two really important things about this that are fucked up. One is that there are probably examples of times when his wife has gotten worried about one of the children and then nothing was happening. You would expect. They go and find it and then you just kind of forget about that because it's not as dramatic or as interesting of a story. It's not a story at all, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Right. And then the second thing is that by presenting this as a like she had a psychic power to know when her child was in danger so she could snap into action. What you're doing is taking anybody who's had something tragic happen to their child and making it their fault for not stopping it Yep, you have you had the psychic power or whatever to it. You just ignored it or you weren't there enough You're not connected enough to your child. It's fucked up This is a mentality that is it takes something that's romantic and kind of nice about the idea of a connection between
Starting point is 00:21:41 Parent and child and it turns it into like this horrible grotesque thing. Yeah, and it absolves you from having to think for even one second how it is that you have to go downstairs, across the kitchen, across a courtyard, and then across another courtyard to get to a pool. And you at no point in time saw your child along any of those lengths of time. Why do you have that much space? Why do you need that much space?
Starting point is 00:22:08 What are we doing here? What are we doing here? You don't have to think about that. What you have to think about is how great your wife is. She's got psychic powers. Everybody is psychic. Everybody's psychic. That's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Wow. So the other voice you hear is Emmy Robin and she's an actor who's in the movie that makes sense and also a doula She's also a doula. Wow I don't know. I feel every doula is also an actor. I'm just gonna throw that out there I don't I don't know. I do think that Her her contributions are a little bit strange. Hmm. That's the magic to know we are eternal beings. That is the proof right there. That is so powerful.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I can tell you, Alex, the women that I work with, when they have a natural, physiological, unmedicated, untouched home birth, their connection with their baby is out of this world. And I'm a testament to that. I mean my first daughter was an emergency C-section and my second daughter was an all-natural home birth and I love them both but my connection to the home birth is it's I didn't mess with God's design at all. Oh man. Wow. I would hate to be that first child. I'm gonna get out of here Ma. man. Wow. I would hate to be that first child. I'm gonna get out of here, Ma.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I gotta go. I have suddenly realized something very important about our relationship is that you hate me for some reason? When you have the tone of, I love them both. I love them both, but one sucks and the other one's great. I don't feel that connected to one of them because I had them in the hospital. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Whoa. That's the sound of one of them is no had them in a hospital. Oh my god. Whoa. That's the sound of one of them is no longer doing whatever I tell them to do anymore. I don't know. I don't know how old they are. I think this is all just projection. Man, that is wild. That really struck me as...
Starting point is 00:23:57 That fucks me up. Yeah. Yeah, don't do that. No. Do your kids. No. Especially not in public. On the radio. Tell it to them maybe if you hate them, but don't do it on the radio
Starting point is 00:24:07 Rude so Alex has had some real dark times where people have been telling him he sucks Yeah, and he's dumb and he lies a lot and he's wrong about stuff Yeah, and seeing that happen to Andrew Wakefield and then him be vindicated. Oh my god, but he was vindicated Well, sure It gave Alex hope, okay I don't know write myself in the story because it's not about me, but I've oh it's not you've gone through quite the giant Persecution thousands of articles sometimes a month every TV show same thing happened to me didn't do anything They said I did but then the courts are on there
Starting point is 00:24:42 But the funny thing is with you I saw it gave me faith when I was being persecuted five, six years ago and still am how it turned. And so I so what was done to you was being done to Trump's been done to me. You were kind of the test pilot for this modern CIA MI six attack. Yeah, it happened to General Michael Flynn. It happened to and it's relentless and it doesn't matter. You know what? Because this isn't about me. It's not about me. So you can say anything you like. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:25:10 People will continue to say what they like. You suck. All I want to do is be responsible for the vast swath of death and destruction left in my wakefield. Come on, let's go! I mean, I do think that there's something shocking about believing that he's been vindicated, let's go. I mean I do I do think that there's something shocking about Believing that he's been vindicated but oh well by what whom when I mean He's just saying that now that we're still because we're still talking and you didn't quit
Starting point is 00:25:36 I guess you've been vindicated but at no point in time is he saying like your stuff has been proven correct, right? It's just you've stayed around anti-vex stuff has become much more popular than it was, and therefore you are vindicated. Therefore you're vindicated. Alex's whole world is based on like fucking YouTube comments and the ratio of people liking Bill Gates and Joe Rogan posts and stuff like that. So of course, Andrew Wakefield's been vindicated.
Starting point is 00:25:58 There are more people who are like, this stupid shit that he said is right. That is a really good point. Yeah. So vindication, baby. Anyway. is right. That is a really good point. Yeah, so vindication, baby Anyway, all right They're dumb and I do think it's worth pointing out that like they are not just anti-vax. They are essentially anti-medicine Yeah, we've gone that far now. Yes, we're in Christian scientists territory of there is doctors are not allowed near you
Starting point is 00:26:21 There is a lot of that whether it's like fully Endorsed or just danced around there is a like all our medicine is fucked God has a plan God has a design Wow, it's like Alex you just had dental surgery recently like come come the fuck off it Oh my god, what are you? What are you playing with here? This is ridiculous But that's where they are and that seems to be a direction that is is creeping closer. Yeah Yeah, you know, I've thought about this for a while for obvious reasons You know that that kind of like do as I say not as I do think that happens so often with religious leaders where it's
Starting point is 00:26:58 Like oh you can't trust to the hospital But then they'll go get dental surgery if they need it that kind of thing You know that that feeling of being a follower who does what they're like you you're just not listening, right? Don't worry about it until you need it. Mm-hmm, you know, like that's isn't that the real message if you need it go see a doctor Yeah, but if you don't need it tell other people not to go see doctors. They're evil But if you need it, I mean obviously go see a doctor. This is entertainment. Yeah, what are you crazy? Go see a doctor! Right. What are you nuts? So I don't really care to listen to too much more of these two promote their movie
Starting point is 00:27:33 Because they suck and I hate them so we jump to someone else who sucks Jesus Christ man, there is a I hate. And that's Nick Fuentes. Jesus Christ, man. That's unrelenting. Yeah. So this is one of the reasons why I was very okay with you being like, I'm sick. I don't want to come in. I'm like, you can't handle this today. Not today. You can't handle Andrew Wakefield and Nick Fuentes coming in while you're dry heaving. Yeah. I've already got stomach acid flying everywhere. You don't need it in your house.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Right, right. So Alex is very, very impressed by Nick. Very impressed. Really? Why? But let's not get into that Third Reich stuff. Okay. Come on. Elon Musk, a true maverick by any yardstick, you can say, oh, he didn't really do those giant rockets at half the cost of NASA. He didn't really, he did all that and now he's brought free speech back to a great extent to X compared to other platforms. He said, hey, I'm putting Nick J. Fuentes back on.
Starting point is 00:28:29 That's exploded on the top trends last four days. I did a spaces with him that reached millions and millions of people a few days ago. And so here we are, but I was impressed. And I'll be completely honest about this. I was very impressed. And again, it was my daughter's seventh birthday, so I could only do an hour. I had to leave. People thought, oh, you're mad at Nick. You left in an hour.
Starting point is 00:28:48 No, I can only do an hour. Very great points. Nick made excellent points that Nick Sordor made that Mario and the fall made that the guest made. I kind of want to repeat that and just cover a bunch of other big issues here instead of debating the third rike and things like that. And I'm happy to go there. There's been no pre-interview here. There's been no, I said, if you got any questions or things you want to cover, you know, send them to me. So that's where we are. But the Nick Fuentes I liked, and I'm not putting Nick down, was the guy I knew five years ago that exploded from nowhere and was America First and Things I Agree With and is really doing great talk shows as a very young man,
Starting point is 00:29:26 knowing you mature get even better and better. And then when the interview happened, I said cover whatever you want to go. Don't worry. That wasn't Nick. It was other folks with him. Oh, he wants to come in and apologize for what he said. I said, well, I don't even want that. I just want to cover all the other issues. We can spend some of the time on the stuff he wants to cover, but I have some questions. None of that happened. It was mainly press on the nerve of who's the most hardcore? Who's the most real? Who's the most you know wild and we can do that today, but I really don't do it I want to talk about transhumanism
Starting point is 00:29:55 Globalism the open borders the depopulation the future of the world censorship But Alex is essentially saying here is that he wants to make common cause with a Nazi by pretending that he's not a Nazi. And when Alex says like the Nick Fuentes that I like was, you know, these years back. They're the same guy. But it's like when there was plausible deniability. Exactly. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Before he did his Hitler tour. The Nick Fuentes that I like is still the same person in as much as he is very competent sure speaks incredibly Well, he has thought out positions. He sounds way smarter than Alex. Mm-hmm. He's Polished in a myth like a he's able to be media ready. Mm-hmm. And back then you could pretend Yeah, he didn't have the beliefs that he espouses pretty regularly and I think Alex is just like you've been exposed to our Audience as someone who is a fucking bigot. Yep, and we can't like I don't want that and to like you Right, like those two things are gonna be difficult for my brand, right? So I liked it before Can you be but like that? Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:31:02 Talk about the Third Reich stuff. Give me an F classic. Come on buddy. Give me, give me some of that good stuff. Act like a dick, but don't be like, ah, and let's kill all the, you know, it's not hard. I think Alex gets a lot of his wish. Yeah. Um, until towards the end of the interview and then things fall apart a little bit, but he gets most of what he wants. Cause Nick is pretty on message. Yeah. He is, um, I mean, I don't know if it's what Alex would want because if you look at the two of them, you have somebody who's very able to articulate a point and somebody who's Alex. And I think Nick looks very good compared to Alex in terms of his communication skills. Sure.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And so maybe that's not what Alex wants, but he certainly doesn't get into how I think all Jewish people should be barred from having elected positions and stuff like that. Right. That's usually smart. Yeah. At least not for a while. Yeah. So things stay in kind of a territory that's workable.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah. And Nick has a theory about social media that I actually think, I have the exact opposite theory. Okay. Like you said, we diverged at some point along the way. But I think you and I have always agreed that you cannot have a right wing, you cannot have a pro freedom, pro human, pro American movement if we don't have access to the platforms. And I think something that people don't realize is how tenuous this is. There was a very short window of time
Starting point is 00:32:30 at the beginning of the last decade, I would say roughly between 2013 to 2016, when social media really became activated. This, I would say, is a specific singularity in the history of technological development when people had all gotten smartphones and social media. It's the hottest medium that has ever existed in the history of mankind. For the first time, unlike even before when people had internet and computers,
Starting point is 00:32:58 for the first time roughly in that period, in the middle of the last decade, everybody was connected to everybody else on social media at all times via their smartphone. And I think that that created a very specific political outcome, which was the Trump revolution. It is no surprise that when, for the first time in history, the consciousness was elevated to such a high degree by social media and smartphones, it produced a wild populist nationalist revolution. So I do think that the outcome that he's describing, I agree with, like social media allowed a lot of this bullshit to happen.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But I don't think it's evolving consciousness. I think that it's a medium that is rife with fraud and very easy to pass off bullshit on. And so it eroded people's ability to interact with information. Okay, so what you're saying, your theory might be that social media as a destructive and awful force created or led to us electing a destructive and awful force. At least facilitated in a fashion. Right, right, right. So instead of that being sort of like an evolved consciousness, it might be a devolved consciousness.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, but to his point that probably couldn't have gotten Trump without it, I think he's probably right. I agree. To the point of you can't have a full robust extreme right wing without social media. I don't know if that's true, but it certainly helps because there is a tradition of message boards and you know, uh, newsletters and stuff like that. The right wing was able to spread and grow without social media before. And I think that there's an ability to do it again. It's just stymied considerably and then the profit,
Starting point is 00:34:49 the ability to profit off it is limited. Yeah, yeah. I think there's something to be said about an awareness somewhere that they are a disease. You know, like whenever we don't have social media to allow them to connect, you know, those cells can don't have social media to allow them to connect, you know, those cells can just be there and they're not hurting nobody. But whenever the cells are all connected and we get all this big movement from all across the, that's no
Starting point is 00:35:14 good. That's no good for nobody. Well, see, they think it's that, but it's the reverse. Yeah. See, that's the thing. That's where we get into trouble. So Alex, on our last episode, it was the big one. Yeah. The big one. Everything's going down. It's happening. We can mitigate it maybe Yeah, things have calmed down a little bit. Sure. He's not in that bad of a mood, but false flags are still coming Okay, they are still coming. So not kill everybody false flags. It's not the big one. Yeah, who knows? It's a pretty it's a little bit less extreme today. You've not have had a bad meeting, right?
Starting point is 00:35:46 But yeah, Nick Nick's kind of on the same page that false flags are coming. Okay, the establishment knows they're losing on every front. And my concern is my next question to you is what do you think the deep state is going to do with 180 days to the election to try to demonize their opposition? We've seen the pre-programming that white supremacists are going to blow everything up and kill everybody with no evidence of it. I see false flags. I'm really concerned about what this desperate deep state is going to do as the whole world wakes up to him. What do you think? I think you're absolutely right. I think that's the oldest playbook. That's the
Starting point is 00:36:24 one that they always go to. That's the one that they always go to. It's the exact same thing that they did in 2018 with the Christchurch shooting, or any number of the other mass shootings or terrorist incidents. Every escalation and censorship in the past six or seven years was always precipitated or preceded by some sort of mass shooting, some sort of violent extremist episode, which if you really look back and interrogate the actual timeline of events with any of those, whether it was El Paso or Christchurch or any of them, there was always things suspicious, like there was never a federal agent very far behind, never a confidential informant very
Starting point is 00:37:03 far behind. In a lot of them, it was the closest circle, like the five people that knew the shooter, one of them was a confidential informant. So I think you're absolutely right. They, just like we, understand the stakes, which is that with Twitter, with Rumble, with Big Tech, now once again back at her fingertips, we really actually have a fighting chance at political reform in the form of Trump. We really stand a chance at defeating the legal political persecution of Trump and him being an avatar and a representative of all of us. And so I think, as you say, they recognize the stakes just as much as we do. And I think there will be some sort of extremely unpredictable black swan type event.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I thought we already had that with the bridge. Those that was what Alex was saying is the black swan thing. It wasn't a bowl of supposed to have spread from Denver. Anyway, if you can predict a black swan event, you've denied the existence of the black swan event. Well, no, no, no, no, no. Some Alex has dreams nevermind Take my criticism back. So yeah, I guess the argument here is that
Starting point is 00:38:11 Christ church that massacre and I have so and all of these racially and Every time my friends murder a bunch of people right that was something that was done by the globalists Right that was something that was done by the globalists In order to kick me off Twitter right because I'm too good on Twitter and I will get Trump elected Yeah, that's kind of the vibe, but I think there's a little bit of Calm down. I mean a megalomaniac is usually bad When they're just at a fucking toll booth when they're just at a fucking toll booth, whenever they're Nick Fuentes, real bad, not good. He's able to say this in a way that doesn't immediately
Starting point is 00:38:51 appear to translate to that. Yeah, you know. When I say that he's a pretty good communicator, it's because that bullshit doesn't pop out on its face. A lot of the way that Alex, when he says stuff, it's like most people get their news from movies. Yeah, I like shit like that Dresses things up pretty Nick Nick did not explicitly say the they false flagged Christchurch because I'm the next Hitler He didn't explicitly say that they were trying to keep me from becoming the fourth Reich
Starting point is 00:39:22 But yeah, that's about that. So Alex tries to get into, weave into a little bit of conversation about the Gaza protests. Great. This is a good thing for these two to talk about. Well, it jumps off topic pretty quickly. It's Elon Musk. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm not supporting Israel's carbon bombing. I also don't support Biden giving money to Hamas and then the left funding that you can see way to do it is to say, you know, Trump's not just carbon bombing also don't support Biden giving money to
Starting point is 00:39:48 Hamas and then the left funding that you can see they're trying to create this this this this this this clash of civilizations that we're now witnessing and I want to derail that. And Trump's imperfect, but way better than Biden,
Starting point is 00:40:03 obviously, and get him into office. So pulling back from this, you know, we can say is Elon Musk for real or is he an opportunist? I tend to think he's for real overall. He's got a bunch of kids, you know, it's not perfect, but he sees also that the wind's blowing in our direction. So it's not that he's even opportunist. He's already on our side, but now he thinks the time is ripe to take these people on. He's double the engagement on ex formerly Twitter. It's winning the people are awakening. I mean, we're really at that magic moment right now. That's what people got to be so concerned about what the deep state is going to do next. That's why we're trying to get everybody as focused as possible on that.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, absolutely. And it is, I think, an interesting question whether Elon Musk is an opportunist or if he's some kind of ideal log. Ultimately though, that we have the free speech platform, at least in the short term is really the only thing that matters. See now this is exactly the right point for someone like Nick. He is like, you know what? Hey, Elon Musk could be good, could be bad. I don't give a fuck. I have got Twitter access now, and that's all that matters to me. This is the only thing that matters, dum dum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Stop it with a, there's an interesting, hey, maybe it's an academic conversation to have about whether Elon believes any of this shit. And that you hear from Alex sometimes. Yeah. That kind of, you know, maybe he's for real, maybe he's not. You even hear a little bit of that in that clip, but it's always so surface level. Yeah. Now listen to this next clip. Okay. Because this is where Nick goes. All right. He discusses a possibility for how Elon Musk could be a crass opportunist. What? Right. How could you imagine such an awful thing?
Starting point is 00:41:45 And there is so much more thought put into this than the way Alex presents any of this stuff. I thought it was very interesting, the role that Twitter, or X, played in the recent Argentine election. As you know, Javier Malé was recently elected just last fall in Argentina. And it was before Javier Malé was recently elected just last fall in Argentina. And it was before Javier Malé was elected that Argentina was going to accede to the BRICS alliance, the Brazil, Russia, India,
Starting point is 00:42:13 China, South Africa alliance, along with five or six other states. I think Egypt, the Emirates, Iran were a few of them. And Javier Malé getting into office with the conspicuous intervention of X is what allowed Javier Malé to cancel that accession of Argentina to BRICS. And recently, Elon Musk met with Javier Malé at one of these think tank summits. And the connection would be in lithium. Argentina has the largest unexploited lithium reserves in the world. It sits in the middle of the lithium triangle with Bolivia and Chile, although Argentina has the most by far, and they're not exploited at all. Now that Javier Malé is in charge, he's a neoliberal free market guy, and I think a lot of people agree with that. I mean I'm a free market guy also,
Starting point is 00:43:05 I believe in capitalism. But Javier Malay is now realigning Argentina away from China, away from Russia, away from Brazil, back towards the United States. And just as Argentina goes with the United States, so goes their lithium reserves. Of course, what is lithium used in? It's one of the most critical resources in the world. Batteries, lithium ion batteries that will be vital for the energy transition, the global green energy transition away from combustion-based car engines to lithium ion electric car battery-based systems. And so, Elon Musk, well, he's in the business of batteries. He's in the business of electric lithium ion battery cars.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Now that Javier Malé is giving the United States the exclusive access to the lithium, and if you look at some of the particular companies, you might wonder, did X play a role in Javier Malé's election last fall? And then wouldn't that suggest that there might be some sort of opportunistic angle for Elon purchasing X? I think there's a lot of credibility to that idea. With that being said, however, you and I coming back onto the platform and using that to get Donald Trump elected, using that to raise awareness about the things
Starting point is 00:44:21 that are going on in the world, as you said earlier, about globalism, about medical tyranny, about transhumanism. I think it's a net positive regardless. I think it can't be said enough. It really truly can't be overstated what that does for the right wing. Yeah. So, I mean, like, look, believing aside whatever you want to believe about the conspiracy that Nick is suggesting has a lot of credibility. The argument is that Elon Musk used Twitter and weaponized or allowed Twitter to be used in order to get Javier Malé elected
Starting point is 00:44:54 because that would give him access to the lithium that he needs for the batteries that run his automated cars and whatever, right? So that's election meddling, right? Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah. In some sense. That is pretty fucked up. But it's fine for Nick because he's also allowing Nick
Starting point is 00:45:17 and Alex to interfere in an election using Twitter in the United States. And that's much more important to the right wing. It's so much more important to the right wing that Nick and Alex be on Twitter that Who cares if there's a foreign government that are being? Alex let me explain this to you. Let me try and explain this to you. Okay long-term goals fuck them Shove them up your ass short-term goals the only thing we ever need to think about Short-term goals the only thing we ever need to think about I honestly think a fair amount of this can be just kind of understood As someone who's like really addicted to yeah posting yep
Starting point is 00:45:54 I mean like you can't you can't know anything about history and not be like you realize this is a bad idea to Give one man this power. How many times are we going to do this? How many times are we going to do this guys? It is you too should be saying we shouldn't give this Nick. No one man should have all that fucking power. Right. And like, um, it's kind of, I don't know, a little bit of a indication that principles don't exist. When is't exist when you're you know You have two minutes of laying out something that is really pretty messed up and inexcusable if
Starting point is 00:46:34 Elon Musk didn't let these people back on Twitter. They'd be attacking him over this. Oh, it'd be awful, right? It's the worst thing you can do. This is what globalists exactly And because they're allowed on Twitter It's a net positive that makes up enough ground that it doesn't matter if Elon Musk is using his own company to get Foreign sure sure governments elect people in order for his profit Margin and access to lithium. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, that's great. Great. Mm-hmm. It's good stuff. Mm-hmm Everything is excusable if you're a Nazi. I mean honestly there is that
Starting point is 00:47:10 What what is he gonna do that Nick Puentes is like? Yeah, I want to do worse like come on. That's tough. Yeah, so Nick as we know we've heard this in past times that we've talked about their interactions Nick will constantly say things like, Alex is run by the Jews. Sure. And, you know, whenever he tried to backpedal a bit from the yay interview, Nick said that Alex got a call from his controllers. Totally. You know, there's all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah. And so Alex is a little bit like, come on, man. Just don't do that. Yeah. Don't make me feel bad. Yeah. Alex is a little bit like, Come on, man. Just don't do that. Yeah, don't make me feel bad. Yeah. So he scolds Nick a little bit. Oh my god. About about saying that he's not anti Israel enough. Oh my god. I'm glad you bring up the anti semitism bill because we didn't talk much other than a few text messages about you coming on about what the topics would be. And that's something front and center for me
Starting point is 00:48:09 and uh you know i saw you a week ago you know a clip was sent to me and i'm not mad about it you know i've made comments about you most of them you know tongue in cheek blip it comments or whatever and you were like yeah we've seen the new greg reese report zionist death grip on america let's put it on screen and i'm trying to get a fight going here for the last three quarters of show i'm just getting this out okay Okay, you're like, yeah Well, I think Jones is doing this because there's pressure on him to do it. No, I Hired Gregory's five years ago. I respect Gregory's he does whatever he wants but I've made two films on the USS Liberty and bombs and the Israelis and 9-eleven that I produced and made and I'm not trying
Starting point is 00:48:46 like this old man's day because I was on air unlike most people I was on air when I was 20 like you so I look you know got that I respect somebody when they're 20 on air now you're 25 26 I don't look at like oh hey Sonny boy get off my block I'm the old man around here I'm 50 years old the point is when you were literally in diapers, I was exposed in the USS Liberty and all this. And I get it. I don't talk about it constantly because to me it's old news, but I know Israel does evil stuff. I know Israel, you know, has nuclear weapons. I know Israel has been involved in a bunch of stuff. I understand
Starting point is 00:49:19 all of that. So it's not about scoring points here. It's that I believe that if I just cover topics and issues, I can get everybody to go for them. But if we make it about a certain group or another group, then we lose people. I just believe that if I build it, that will come. Big Tatt, baby. So yeah, I do. I do. There's something really magical about the vibe of, listen, I'm not trying to be like, I'm the old timer here, listen up son. I'm not trying to do that. But also I was doing this when you were in short pants. Yeah. It's talking out of both sides of the mouth a little bit here. I think, I think that's just that thing where it's like, you gotta, you gotta just give up and do what the young people say, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Like, I mean, if you're thinking of you're Alex, or like, let's take it back. Let's be like Elizabeth Cady Stanton, you know? You're crushing it, you're fighting. You're doing the whole thing. And then 30 years later, somebody's like, why didn't you allow black people involved? And you were like, ah, because you're too woke.
Starting point is 00:50:21 And it's like, no, you should've just been like, yeah, we fucked up, I fucked up. Let's move. Let's go Let's go, man. Well Terrible the analogy with Nick and Alex falls apart a little bit. There is a little bit there I'm just saying it's tough to be a trailblazer and then find out that you didn't go fucking anywhere You know like you fought your ass off to go nowhere And then when the next generation calls you out on that you went nowhere and all of the things you thought were Accomplishments were actually nothing then you feel like shit
Starting point is 00:50:52 And then you go to that kid and you're like see my accomplishes might be nothing, but you're nothing now So fuck you, and it's just kind of that cycle over and over and over again well In that case we should kind of hope for the side that does nothing to succeed. Oh. Because at least nothing is better than awful. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Climate change is getting worse. So Nick talks about the protests that are going on on college campuses. Yes. And he has a take on it
Starting point is 00:51:26 That is interesting. I also think that this is a really probably a fairly good encapsulation of why like Even if somebody is on the same side as you in theory nominally Or aesthetically or whatever that does not mean necessarily That you should side with them or take their position as meaningful, right? With what's going on this conflagration over there in Gaza We are we are at a very high risk of being drawn into hostilities with Iran directly as evidenced by the recent tip for tap Strikes at the same time. There is a mass mobilization on campuses to attempt to retard this. And as you say, the people that are deploying to the campuses, these people don't love America.
Starting point is 00:52:11 They're leftists. A lot of them are going on the campuses really for the wrong reasons. I mean, they're with the campus, or rather they're with Palestine, not because they're sympathetic even for the humanitarian cause. A lot of them are just radical liberationists. and so we're not ideologically aligned at all. And yet, deploying all those people to the campuses may retard America's support for a war with Iran. So there's these two things going on. War with Iran, mass mobilization on the campuses. The mass mobilization on the campuses, if it gets out of control, as we talked about
Starting point is 00:52:47 in a previous segment, could create a false flag scenario that could bring down Trump and indict patriots and undo the free speech beach hat. At the same time, the campus protests are the only thing slowing down America's support or its reluctant drawing into a war with Iran. So we're in this impossible situation where you shut down the protests, maybe you get a war with Iran. You prevent a war with Iran by going to the protesters and capitulating, but then you get this flashpoint for an all out war in America. And so there's this very, very slim, narrow opportunity where we have to thread the needle,
Starting point is 00:53:28 where on the one hand, we can't let the protests turn into BLM. We can't have them mobilizing in the event that Trump wins for some kind of revolution. We saw a little bit of that in 2016 with Antifa. At the same time, we also can't be drawn into a war with Iran. So this is why it's very important for patriots and for america first times to be aware of all the facts i feel like it's sort of the same energy of star wars i know you and i are both fond of revenge of the set where they're kind of playing i got my
Starting point is 00:53:59 news from that movie where they achieve their ultimate goal and i see for example there they're characterizing all these protesters as pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist. The cops are going in and cleaning them up. And I see a lot of right-wing people cheering that on and celebrating it. And I understand why. The protesters are not friendly to us. They're hard, as I said, they're hardcore leftist communists. They're tearing down the American flag.
Starting point is 00:54:24 At the same time, look at the cost of bringing down the protests it's an attack on the First Amendment with the anti-Semitism awareness act it's potentially clearing the protests so that there will be no opposition to America's support for Israel if they try to provoke a war with exactly and then it sets the precedent for everybody to lose their free speech. So he makes some points. Oh my god. What, uh, where's your head?
Starting point is 00:54:50 I do think he's got that media smart reality stupid power that is so, so fucking powerful. Like, being able to say absolutely ridiculous stupid shit like that, but in a way that to Alex sounds like the smartest man on earth well and there's some points that are you know almost impossible to disagree with like we can't crush the protests because the effects that it would have on free speech we can't be on the side of that yeah they'll be fine that's the appearance of a principled stand though that even people on the left would you know? Oh sure, but they're they're totally cool Not really what Nick is what Nick is espousing is yeah, essentially we have to crush them a little bit softer
Starting point is 00:55:34 We have to crush them a little bit more softly or subvert or something because if we use some sort of Giant power to to crush it. Yeah, we're gonna end up in a war with Iran, and the First Amendment is destroyed. Oh no. Right, but if we just leave it alone and let the protest happen, then there'll be a false flag scenario that could grow out of it,
Starting point is 00:55:58 or it'll be an organic movement that ends up threatening the power. Can't let it become BLM. Rise of Trump, right. That would be it become BLM. Rise of Trump. Right. That would be a disaster for two or three years max. Right. So I mean, it's very obvious that there is the appearance of agreement or support in
Starting point is 00:56:16 as much as he doesn't want people to crush the protest. Right. But that is an illusion of his ultimate hostility and complete opposition. Yeah, I mean it's, again, it's optics. We, yeah, of course, if there wasn't cameras around, I'd be like, beat the shit out of those leftist losers. We, we love violence. But if there are cameras around, somebody like us who loves violence might cause a false
Starting point is 00:56:41 flag out of the violence that we would do if we weren't any cameras around. But since we know there are cameras around, we wouldn't do any of that violence. I'm looking at you, you and you, the three of you. Don't do that violence. Specifically the three of you. Jesus. And it's interesting. It's interesting the way that he can articulate these things. That makes you think, oh, this is like a rational human being instead of a psychopathic monster Uh-huh. Yeah, but it's I think it's a indication of like he thinks a little bit more than Alex Sure, maybe or I just psychopathic monsters do or just there's the awareness of he's coming on Alex's platform And there's a different audience that he might be able to appeal to
Starting point is 00:57:22 And so he's speaking differently and a little bit more professionally than you would when you're just at your own desk doing your show. So Alex is concerned about AI. But I think he's concerned about the wrong thing. Oh, they actually had to go back and revise chat GPT and make it weaker because it was too powerful. And that was just the public product. That's just what we know about
Starting point is 00:57:49 We don't even know how sophisticated. Oh, let me back you up. I know some of the top computer people I'm sure you do too. They tell me what we're seeing is ten years old. They're holding it back It would take everything over right now. I mean already listen six months ago The AI hacked my phone number Called me on Tucker Carlson's number, and then mimicked Tucker Carlson's voice to me, but I could tell what it was saying wasn't Tucker. So I said, this is AI, and it hung up. Then it was confirmed it was AI. What?
Starting point is 00:58:14 I mean, that's old technology. Absolutely. And well, that's the problem is we don't even, I mean, people like yourself are aware, but the masses are not fully aware of the threat that's posed by this stuff See that's where things get embarrassing. Yeah for Nick to be like absolutely is ridiculous someone prank called Alex and played cut cut up clips of Tucker Carlson saying you wanted to fuck him. I think I think Generally that the word absolutely is should be retired from this show
Starting point is 00:58:45 because it's almost always used immediately to agree with something absolutely not true. Well, it's a need. It's like a, it's a placeholder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely, sure. It's an affirmative. Why not?
Starting point is 00:58:57 I see no reason why I can't agree with you right now. So the AI hacked Alex's phone, hacked Tucker's phone, made a prank call between them. This is AI. So sophisticated. Hung up. So Alex wants no AI. None!
Starting point is 00:59:10 All right. I'm listening. And then Nick makes a joke that was probably meant to be a little bit racist, and Alex picks up on that subtext and then just kind of gets flustered. Good stuff. I agree. Arms control in terms of artificial intelligence and robotics is really one of the understated issues of our time. It may be the
Starting point is 00:59:29 biggest issue of our time. And it's simple. When you go to Chick-fil-A and a robot livers your food at your table or a robot, you say, no, I don't want a robot. It's not that you're against technology. It's that the technology is being bent towards attacking us. I don't know, I may push back. I mean, when you go to the drive-through and you get an AI, I prefer that over what you usually get. You go to Wendy's drive-through and they're like, what you want, what you want? I prefer the artificial intelligence.
Starting point is 00:59:55 No, but I get it's better in ways, but it's like you put a worm on a hook. The worm is the AI gets it done better, but it's connected to something evil. I'm not saying the AI isn't better upfront. I'm saying it gives them total control. So I'd rather somebody say, you know, three times I want a cheeseburger, you don't get chicken sandwich. I told you a cheeseburger three times, send it back to give you a salad. I understand that's a human problem, but I'm just teasing you a little bit.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I know you're teasing me, man. But it's like, see, while you're all worried about religious groups and racial groups, and I am too, what I get like I'm worried about the technocracy, right? Like I'm worried about that. That's what I'm really concerned about. I think you're right to be concerned about that. It's certainly one of the big issues of the time. AI robotics. It's the end of the big issues of the time. AI, robotics,
Starting point is 01:00:45 it's the end of humanity. I totally agree with you. Well, maybe I can't help myself that I project humanity on every group. And I think they're going to want to join me. Maybe I'm wrong, Nick. Okay. You brought up a great point. Next point, what do you want to cover? What the fuck? What is happening? So, Alex, whether or not, I do think that Nick's joke was meant to be racist. That's why he's doing a voice.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Alex picked up on that. Yeah. And that made Alex be like, I'm going to take this seriously. And Nick's like, I'm fucking with you. I'm just being a dick. That was a fun racist joke. If we were at a bar, you would have laughed. We would have moved on. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Alex picks up on this and he's like, I care about the issues, not various groups, Cause he's responding to the joke that he knows that Nick made. Yep. I prefer AI to black people is essentially what AI or what Nick said. And he is like, now we don't say that here on the again, optics, people are watching us now.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And Alex, even like the, the, the, the point he says, maybe I'm wrong to project goodness on other groups. I want to. Oh my God. That might be more racist than anything. I don't even know how to like, like that is the most white man's burden ass. Like, listen, we all know white people are great. Maybe part of the thing that is
Starting point is 01:02:05 our failing is believing others are great. That is essentially what Alex just said. Yep. That's fucked up. Yep. So the million dollar question. What's, what's your biggest flaw? Ah, too, too few flaws. That's my biggest flaw. Don't have any makes people uncomfortablecomfortable around me because I have this zero flaws, right? It's an issue I like I like that Alex is also doing this thing where he's like you think about groups too much Maybe it's my fault that I think so highly of other groups These people are fucking insane they have no idea right they just talk and then and it's all like fine And they go about their days, and then they go eat and then they go home not at any point Recognizing like everything I believe on the day-to-day basis might as well be pink elephants, but at least from Nick's perspective
Starting point is 01:02:57 He knows he's fucking with out. Yeah, that's true like when he makes that joke He's like I'm just messing around with you. There's a ton of other instances where he's like, I'm hiding what I'm actually meaning and talking about because obviously we're on your fucking show. This is, you don't want me to come through with what I actually believe. You don't want me to speak freely. That would make you look bad and me look bad.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Your audience isn't ready for that. It is a sign of how gun shy Alex is that even like a little joke like that sets him off so bad well, there's there's a rippling undercurrent of this literally you can hear in Alex's like I Was doing this when you were in diapers, you know, like there is that like you Don't respect what I do right because your bigotry is a umbrella over all of my ideas. You can have complete agreement and agree with all of the things I believe about vaccines,
Starting point is 01:03:55 digital currencies, COVID, all of it, everything, and you have your umbrella on top. And I can't do anything about that except tell you fuck that umbrella yeah and it doesn't work yeah yeah can't you just be all the things that I like without being any of the things that I don't like and only be those for me but also those things I don't actually really not like them that much it's just I know well enough to know that optically this is really bad what a what a toxic relationship the two of them have yeah Yeah, just like in a pure like in a metaphorical sense of Alex looking at the young version of himself
Starting point is 01:04:33 And you know the fact that since the day one of him knowing Nick He's known that Nick and his followers are actually not straight-up Nazis. He knows this mainly we were told him that yep And he doesn't care. No, he He knows the dance that he's gotten into and it comes to this point because he's humored it because he understands the popularity and audience that they can attract. I think I'm going to refer back to long term goals. Shove them up your ass. Short term goals. The only thing that matters. So the million dollar question is, what would you do if you were in charge, Nick?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Now this question is sort of a trap, because Alex knows what Nick would do if he was in charge. This is the big question. Obviously, you wouldn't want to be a dictator. You wouldn't want to be, you know, Tim Jong on, but if you were George Washington and you were the president. How would you in these wars?
Starting point is 01:05:33 What would you do politically? What would you do to the left? If people say, oh, Trump's going to get in and be a dictator. Well, we're not about retribution. I said this the first hour Roger Stone, but they've committed crimes. The deep state is embedded
Starting point is 01:05:46 It's a coup. So there's a coup that's taking over your government. You've got to go remove it We're not looking for a fight. They already did it So if you were the president if you were president Trump January 21st 2025 sworn in in front of the US Capitol, what would Nick point does it? Well day one, I would fire 50,000 federal employees, because what you have to recognize is when Trump got in the first time, it was the deep state that refused to allow him to carry out the agenda. And we could get into all the details on that, but it was literally an abject
Starting point is 01:06:18 refusal and sabotage. I mean, borderly illegal and unconstitutional. So I'd fire 50,000 people right off the rip and replace it with loyal patriots. So his second thing that he says is build the wall and three is capitulate to Russia about Ukraine to hope that you keep them from being aligned with China. Sure, sure, sure. So you have like a real whitewashing of his positions. You have a sanitizing them for the audience so they don't look like what they are. Yeah, I have Some suspicion that Alex asked that question because he was trying to see if Nick would do his
Starting point is 01:06:52 Like normal shit that he does on his own show, which is a bit more extreme Yeah, or if you would do this version, yeah, and he does this version Yeah, Alex is kind of realizing like I'm talking to a politician here. Sure. This is a guy who's not giving me his actual sincere opinions. Okay. He has to he has to know that that is the question that will be answered by asking this question. Right. Are you are you fucking with me or are you speaking like your actual positions that you would in private? Okay. Okay. Because I was taking it and I think I understand that. I was thinking of it more as like, if this is almost like a test, you know, like if you toe the line and
Starting point is 01:07:34 have like a conversation with me, that's you capitulating to me instead of being like, here's what I think we should do. That would be you going rogue. You know what I mean? I think that that is what Alex hopes right that if if you give me the sanitized version you're playing ball Yes, yeah, is he hoping to play ball or is he hoping you'll go rogue? I think he's hoping he'll play ball. Okay, but at the same time knows that his heart is rogue His heart is rogue and there is And I think there's an attempt to get some sort of a power position in the conversation by being like, we both know what you actually believe. Right, right, right. And I don't think that Nick cares.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Right. I did. I do feel I do get a little bit of Alex being like kiss the ring. Just a little bit of that, you know, like, yeah. And I don't think Nick cares at all why would he kiss a ring you're over what are you Alex you're gonna be gone in like five months maybe maybe two maybe based on your own why would I kiss your dumb ring yeah and so Alex is constantly trying to sort of tease this out yeah this this hey your followers are Nazis. Yeah. You know that, right? Yeah. It's just very weird.
Starting point is 01:08:52 All right. Let's talk. GMO transhumanism, poison shots, UN treaties, world government, because I see a lot of the great work that folks are out there doing, covering certain issues. But I'm not saying you, but it seems like a lot of your supporters are a one track mind on one issue and one issue alone. And to me, I wanna sell people on a pro human future like Elon Musk is doing. And I'm not doing that to critique you or say you're wrong.
Starting point is 01:09:17 I'm saying, this is where I come from. This is what I actually believe. There's no wizards telling me what to do. Sometimes I wish there was. I am literally trying to fight for human future. I have four children. Hey, dumb dumb, you have prophetic dreams. I mean, he literally said earlier that he has prophetic dreams. Somebody is myth magic telling him things.
Starting point is 01:09:39 In some way. Yeah. But yeah. So the bottom line here is that Alex understands what Nick and his followers are about. He's just trying to dance around it because acknowledging it wouldn't play too well with some of the audience. Alex knows what Nick believes. He's already asked him direct questions that he has to know were answered dishonestly. And he continues to do this thing where he's pretending that Nick is a sincere actor here. And I think it's all defensive. This is only happening because there's a tenuous situation in this conversation that Nick is allowing to exist. Nick doesn't need Alex anymore, but Alex's audience is still a potential pool to recruit from. So he's letting Alex
Starting point is 01:10:15 make these kind of impotent digs on him. But at any point, Nick could drop everything and Alex would be fucked. And Nick would be able to be like, you know what I'm about. We had conversations about this. There is a thin illusion that is being maintained only at Nick's will. Yeah. And I mean, quite simply, just they all want a dictator and their arguments, or Nick's arguments for being like, here's why I would become a dictator would be far more compelling than Alex's. Like, well, democracy has some flaws. It would be ridiculous. It would be an absolutely ridiculous argument.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah. And so this is the point where I thought things were very weird, and that is that Alex has made it clear, like these things, like I know what you're about, your followers are one track minded. You're a Nazi. You hate the Jews! There is a lot of this, and Alex has been doing what it seems like prodding, almost. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And so you would- Give me a little taste of the anti-semitism. You would expect that the end result of this is Nick being like, Alright, let's play. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead, Alex kind of drops the whole thing. Oh, for fuck's sake. And it blows, yeah. Instead, Alex kind of drops the whole thing. Oh, for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And it blows up in his face a little. This idiot. But it does all come down to, as you said, this full spectrum of issues. Everything that's getting in the way is coming from the globalists. It's the vaccines, it's the poison GMO foods, it's things like birth control. I would contend it's even fundamentally built into modernity. It's the fact that women are deferring childbirth
Starting point is 01:11:50 all the time. The average age at which women are having children is always going up. And the higher that it goes, the lower the fertility rate is. So let's just get the elephant in the room out in the open because you're being nicer on the show. I'm not afraid of going anywhere because like 80% of people in Israel are against Netanyahu. I just want to give Jews an opportunity to come in. I want to give Germans, Christians, Muslims, anybody, but
Starting point is 01:12:15 Netanyahu did say he uses Israel as guinea pigs and if you do look at Borla and if you do look at Larry Fink and the CEOs, they are predominantly Jewish. The leaders of the communist revolution, they're predominantly Jewish. And we've got great folks like the people that put out these major conservative universities like PragerU, they admit that. There's also a lot of great people that would be Jewish
Starting point is 01:12:40 that are fighting that. But I wonder where that paradigm is, where you have so many of the transhumanists, like you all know, Harari and others, that are with Bill Gates, who sounds like a eugenicist Nazi to me, on that paradigm. Because when I try to oppose globalism, or you all know Harari, I get a New York Times article how I'm anti-Semitic, I didn't really make a focus on him being Jewish saying it's a post human world, to say the future is not human.
Starting point is 01:13:09 That sounds beyond Hitler. Hitler said it's only Aryan and slaves under it, which I don't agree with. But then when somebody says you're all dead, you're all scum, you're all trash, I have a real problem with that. So how do you square that up? Well, I think that religion is fundamental. and if I talk a lot about Jewish people it's because I am
Starting point is 01:13:28 Fundamentally motivated more than anything by the mission to evangelize people into the Christian religion for me in particular That's a Catholic Church. I am a Christian fundamentalist. Yeah, I don't know if you know this about me Yeah, the thing that I am Famously, maybe defines my character. Yeah, and everything I do I don't know if you know this about me, the thing that I am, famously. Maybe defines my character and everything I do. So one thing I think is really interesting in that clip is that Nick is playing the game. He says all of this stuff comes from the globalists. The vaccines.
Starting point is 01:13:59 He's even kind of making a joke out of saying the globalists. It's almost there. I'm not sure that that necessarily is, but maybe you you're picking up on maybe that's what Alex picked up on Yeah, it could be maybe that was but I don't think that he's necessarily trying to Tease sure he may be I don't know but there is a playing the game which is in service of Appealing to Alex's audience that doesn't like you and getting them over to your content where you can speak freely and say all the crazy awful shit that you do say.
Starting point is 01:14:30 When Alex says, you're being nice on the show, that's code for I know you mean the Jews and you're fucking with me. He is forcing the issue. I, well, but here's what I, and I, you know, like from the outside you might think, oh, well, Alex doesn't need to do this. This is a whole thing. But I do kind of get this feeling, like for the longest time I've experienced a great deal of frustration when Alex calls them the globalists. What really he's just saying the Jews, right? Imagine being Alex who spent your entire life calling the globalists, but really you were just saying Jews Jews, right? Imagine being Alex, who spent your entire life
Starting point is 01:15:05 calling the globalists, but really you were just saying Jews, having to listen to this guy, who spent his entire life calling them the Jews, calling them the globalists to you. That's almost like, that's how I feel. I'm like, shut the fuck up and just say the word that you wanna say. And I feel it.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I feel it coming from Alex right here. I get it. I think some of that is probably baked in and then some of it is patriot dominance that he wants to assert. Sure, sure. There is this like, I think I can bust you, but you can't.
Starting point is 01:15:34 No. Because Alex is basically just like, you hate Jews. Yeah. And then Nick is like, it's because I'm a Christian. It's like, oh no, you dodged it. It's just. Now what's Alex gonna do? It's just not hard. It's just not hard. I'm a Christian. It's like oh no, you dodged it. Now what's Alex gonna do? It's just not hard.
Starting point is 01:15:46 It's just not hard. And boy. I'm a Christian fundamentalist and I hate everybody who's not a Christian. It's very, very simple. Oh, okay. And the problem for Alex also is in trying to set up this question where he's like, you're an anti-Semite.
Starting point is 01:16:01 He has laid out a pretty anti-Semitic thread. Yeah. Alex has staked his ground on shoddy territory, and then Nick is able to just abandon him and leave him high and dry and be like, my bigotry is actually just fundamentally because I'm religious. Aren't you religious?
Starting point is 01:16:18 Mm. Uh-oh. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Alex is not in a good place. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be, I wouldn't want to be there. So Nick, now the door is open, can just... Let's right walk on through, start the crusades all over again.
Starting point is 01:16:33 So I don't have this view of, I don't have an indifferent-ist view of God, that everybody's out there worshiping the same God. I think there's one Trinitarian God with a very specific, particular nature nature I think that one of those persons of God became incarnate in man His name was Jesus Christ who was put on the cross. He founded a church now the reason I say all that stuff is because of course the Jewish people rejected him and the Jewish people in rejecting him in rejecting this Messiah that they were to bear and. And a lot of the Jews, of course, the early Christian community was mostly Jewish people who then became Christians. But those Jews that persisted without accepting Jesus Christ, they kind of formed this new
Starting point is 01:17:16 religion, this rabbinical Judaism, Maimonides is a part of it. There's a very dense and complicated history. And throughout history, you see them show up at the beginning of all of these evil movements like the Kabbalah, like the Illuminati. You see them at the founding of really the Enlightenment with Baruch Spinoza. And you see them popping up all over the place. And I don't think that's a coincidence. I think that there's a very clear kind of dichotomy set up from a religious point of
Starting point is 01:17:43 view between Christians and Jews. Yikes. Yikes, yikes, yikes. It's not a coincidence that you see Jews pop up in these things that I have deemed evil. Yikes. Well, if that's your reasoning, no flaws there. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Yeah, I I just Alex you're fucked That's that's so so fucking stupid. I I just hate that Like the audio of these arguments sounds similar argument No, his what are you saying? Like in in my, how about I put it better? The tone, the way that he's speaking sounds so similar all across the line, regardless of the content of his bullshit.
Starting point is 01:18:34 You cannot be smart enough to know earlier things and stupid enough to still believe that shit. That is a calculated awareness of how to exploit other people's stupid beliefs. It's not a sincere belief whatsoever. The idea that he's... Nick Fuentes does not give a fuck about the Kabbalah. I think he has some feelings. But I don't know. It is exploitative in some sense. But man, Alex just shouldn't do this stuff. I don't know. It's it's it is it is exploitative in some sense.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Yeah, man. It's just Alex just shouldn't do this stuff. No, like he's just allowing Nick free reign because there's nothing he can do. Like this is Alex's best that he's got. Yeah. Revelation talks very precisely about a synagogue of Satan. I think that Jews being the only religion that say that Jesus is burning in hell, being the only religion that actually hates Jesus,
Starting point is 01:19:30 I think that's extremely relevant. Sure, but let's back off from that because I wanna have a real discussion here. And I agree with what you're saying, that's true. What? It's the Jews came up with Abrahamic religions. I mean, there's something special about the Jews. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Even before Jesus, King David, King Solomon and all that. What do you think it is about the Jews? I mean 3,000 years ago they were a big deal. I mean let's recognize there's something going on there. Well God chose them to to bear the Savior. God chose Adam and Eve and God chose Noah and God chose Abraham and so they were raised up. So exactly as much as I'm mad at what some of them are doing, I respect what they came from. You see the difference? Oh man, this is not good. I don't know what point Alex is necessarily hoping to distinguish himself from Nikon,
Starting point is 01:20:19 but he's like, okay, you said a bunch of anti-Semitic shit. Now that is all true, but also Pretty cool. It feels here's why it feels like This was a plan to get his audience to a place where even Alex would be like well Obviously, it's reasonable to hate the Jews for these reasons But I still believe but it sounds like Alex got there on accident like he's like well Hey, listen, you're making great points about how I hate the Jews I'm with you. I've been there the whole time. I've been wait. What am I saying? I'm sorry Are we doing this smarter or dumber? It does feel like Alex's hope is to
Starting point is 01:20:56 Like I said assert patriot dominance over Nick and be like your path is wrong. This is no good You're a Hitler guy, but at the same time, all you have is Alex making sort of veiled jabs at him at the beginning and Nick not really giving a shit. And now Alex opening up this box, Nick being fine, and Alex floundering and saying a bunch of anti-Semitic shit. So it's actually Alex demonstrating that Nick is going to outdo him at every turn at every possible turn. Yes Yeah, and that's um that's unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah, it does feel like Alex is just like man, okay if only
Starting point is 01:21:38 Hitler was named George Washington to then we could have really just made the ambiguity perfect Oh if only oh But they have a lot of agreement on a lot of things sure like that Then we could have really just made the ambiguity perfect. Oh, if only. Ugh. But they have a lot of agreement on a lot of things. Sure. Like that there's a war on Christians going on. Obviously. Clearly, because they're allowed to say stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:21:50 So, no, it's definitely a UN global war on Christians. The UN admits it's record-level attacks on Christians. Why do you think that is? I think it's because Christians, because they have belief in God, cannot be controlled by worldly powers. Of course, global government fears religion that they can't control. Of course they fear it. It's just no different than the devil who thinks that he controls the world, who offered Jesus control over the world, if only Jesus would bow and worship at his feet. It's really that same frustration that the devil had. Jesus would not submit to him.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Christians will not submit to the anti-Christ new world order system. That's because we worship God. The trick is- Well, that's totally true. That's why they're so pissed. I haven't said this yet, but they were dumb enough to do it outside of mediation.
Starting point is 01:22:37 They just said, just come out against the Republicans and guns in America and we'll leave you alone. I'm like, you just did that in non-mediation. You just admitted that. I mean,, you just did that in non-mediation. You just admitted that. I mean, they are literally admitting that to me. They just want me to give up on my morals and be their slave.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I can't physically do it, Nick. That's why when I get criticized for it, it makes me mad because I may be temporarily distorted through rose-colored dark leaves, but I am trying to be a good person. I'm trying to tell the truth. I know, and I know that and we know that I mean we'll reassure you Alex I know you're a good boy what is happening Alex is just floundering I mean it felt here's it felt like Alex was like hey I I'm not a Nazi you're a Nazi kiss the ring and
Starting point is 01:23:23 now Alex is like I'm a Nazi would you make me feel better for not a Nazi. You're a Nazi kiss the ring and now Alex is like, I'm a Nazi Would you make me feel better for being a Nazi because I don't want to but I don't know But it just seems like every time I say I'm not a Nazi and then you Nazi things I go I agree with you shit, which makes me a Nazi, but I don't want to be a Nazi Tell me it's okay to be a Nazi. Look, you don't try to lie. See? There we go. After you just lied about this mediation thing that's fucking made up story. Okay, there's that. Just turn on the Second Amendment.
Starting point is 01:23:51 What are we doing? I don't know. He's told that story for decades. I know. Nonsense. So look, I think that this is really at the heart of all of this is this is just what Alex wants. All I want is open a big tent up to Christians, Muslims, Jews, agnostics, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Just let's be anti-New World Order. Let's be anti-CBDC. You get my thing as I'm just trying to say, these are the policies I'm against. I'm not gonna list a group to it. Sure, there's groups behind it. You get where I'm coming from? I absolutely get where you're coming from on that.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Just say globalist. That's what you're... We didn't need to do this whole thing. Right, Alex is just begging him almost like, come on, code, use code. That's all that you need to do. I was, you're the one who stopped.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I was using code, I did the thing. I said globalist. But I think that Alex Forced the issue probably because he knew that Nick would at some point Yeah Like he would he knew that Nick is not going to play ball forever, right? Right, and so he was trying to get ahead of whatever Nick would end up doing But which is once again turning Alex into a place where he goes. I'm a Nazi. Hmm. Just don't say groups
Starting point is 01:25:09 Just say pretend it's about issues don't say Christ this is it's a it's a shameful demonstration of Alex's inept abilities to Try and coach a Nazi. Yeah Yep Anyway, yeah great stuff. when you gonna settle down enough kids that's a good question Nick you're a Catholic lunatic you're supposed to have eight kids by now it's the best thing ever brother you're a good-looking guy come on you ain't got some girl you're in ready to marry I'm gonna get serious soon you know I'm just I'm really focused
Starting point is 01:25:42 on what I'm doing and you know me when you were my age you were a Chad you were in the gym you were muscular I'm uh I'm kind of like a little autistic I have a little more trouble I mean you're like the boomer dad I'm like the autistic zoomer kid it's a generational thing Nick you're good I'm sure you could get a lot of girls my friend I wouldn't I wouldn't get yourself down there One of these days one of these days I'm gonna start a big Catholic family and you know, well all our kids will be hanging out fighting the New World Order You know the Godfather he says he's spending time with your family and He says yeah, he goes cuz a man's not a man unless he spent hours family
Starting point is 01:26:22 I'm trying to best thing ever. Right? So this is another attempt to assert some sort of dominance, you know, like patronizing you about like, when you're going to have a family and Nick isn't even affected by that. Because Alex is like, Alex is trying to embody the exact thing that Nick makes a joke about is that you're the boomer dad, I'm the zoomer son. And like, you can't own that dynamic if Nick is comfortable with it and joking about it. And so Alex has attempted asserting
Starting point is 01:26:53 some kind of fatherly thing here falls apart. This is just, he doesn't have the tools to do what he wants to do with Nick. Yeah. And that's- Yeah. I mean, he never did. Nope. And he just it is he can't. What what what would it be like that that narcissism gift
Starting point is 01:27:17 of being able to think that regardless of any and all available facts, you are the most important person available in this room at all times. Right? Like, but that also is a curse because no matter how much, no matter how often this happens, Alex will eventually get to the point where he's like, okay, I can do it this time. Let's have Nick on. I'm going to get him to do this stuff. I'm going to do the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:27:39 I'm going to do it this time. I swear to God. And then he's going to do it again. Yeah. Yep. Well, I mean, there's no real consequences that he ends up seeing. Like, obviously there are audience members of his, and you can see remnants of this in message boards and comment sections, where they're like, oh my God, this guy who everyone
Starting point is 01:27:56 told me is a Nazi is making a lot of great points. And you know, like, there is a radicalization by degree of the audience that happens because of these failures of hubris. Well, I mean, Alex just said, yeah, mostly a Nazi. I mean, as close as you can get to saying I'm an out and out Nazi without being like segregation now, segregation forever. But Alex doesn't actually see any concrete effect of this.
Starting point is 01:28:19 That's true. Other than periodically Nichols say some wild shit about him No, I'm jab about how he's milk toast and stuff. Yeah, it feels like that's the consequence that he experiences And that's what he's pushing back. That's what he's yeah That's his consequence is a YouTube comment saying you're not as cool as you used to be man Yeah, and this show is just Twitter. Jesus Christ. I am yeah, that's where we are. Hey, what are we gonna do? So Nick has a thought that he wants to get to although we were we are very close to the end of the show Okay, it opens all this archetypal energy is what I'm trying to say And I want to see you when you're a father because that is gonna be the next level. All right
Starting point is 01:28:58 We got five minutes left. You got the floor up and interrupting Nick point. Yes. What else is on your radar? Well, I guess the big thing that's on my radar, not to open up a whole new can of worms or anything, but I'm really looking at this vice presidential race. And oh yeah, you mentioned Trump and the little bit of the next hour. They got to go. You got a big secret mission, but yeah, talk about the presidential race. There is no next hour. They're in the fourth hour. They've already done the fourth hour. Great. We have no time to hang over to talk about the VP race because we've had to do all this nonsense.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I appreciate Alex's viewpoint on this, which is there is nothing more boring to me than you talking about the VP. That I agree with wholeheartedly. I was interested what his thoughts on what the VP should be. Oh yeah? Well, I mean, just out of the VP should be. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean just sort of Curiosity. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean like Alex's Alex would be like, let's talk about all this stuff not like a I want to talk to you about how great it is to be Who cares the last one we had we were like, let's hang him who cares about the VP. Hey
Starting point is 01:30:06 Prophetic dreams can we talk about that? No, I would talk about the VP I was interested just from a sort of trivia perspective where Nick said was I don't know who he wants But we learned someone he doesn't want okay, but you know Trump is I love Trump But he's getting up there in age and I think that he's a delegator. He's a businessman. In the last administration, unfortunately, he delegated a lot to Jared Kushner. In this administration, I think he'll be delegating a lot to the vice president. All signs point to this Senator JD Vance from Ohio. And I got to be, just like you and me, we're the first ones to call out the red mirage
Starting point is 01:30:40 in 2020. Once again, we're going to break it on Infowars. I feel like the big thing that I'm worried about to kind of call it out is JD Vance becoming the VP. This guy's bad news. Yep. JD Vance is bad news. Has anybody ever milked one book more than this motherfucker? I think, yeah, I mean, he's done quite well with it. But I don't That's not my sense of who is
Starting point is 01:31:07 Top of the list I have no idea there was a feeling of this that was like You know Nick Nick brings up. I want to talk about the VP race. Yeah I thought there was gonna be something that was actually interesting and then it's like I don't like JD Vance. That's weird Okay, that's kind of it's kind of like JD Vance. That's weird. Okay. That's kind of it's kind of anticlimactic. Yeah, because the last time I talked about the VP or the last time I read about it was like in her book, murdered her dog because she was annoyed. It's like fallen out of the contention. That's the type of VP conversation I was expecting. Not like Coulter telling Vivek that you'd never vote for him because he's Indian. Totally. Boom. That's what VP we're talking about here. Not this JD Vance. I don't want
Starting point is 01:31:48 JD Vance. Fine. Yeah. I feel like that's a sort of common perspective. Maybe JD Vance is higher up on the list than I think, but I don't know. Anyway. I don't understand. See, this is the thing about learning and I get I get what they think Mm-hmm, because they probably think they can right but your last vice president on his last day You were like, let's hang this guy Yeah, you don't care about your vice president not necessarily because if the vice president does something you like you like that vice president now Yes, ah, this will be a good vice president later you think but what if that vice president does something you don't like later they're gonna have to hang him you're gonna be like hey let's hang him so
Starting point is 01:32:30 cares who cares who it is well there's a there's a flip side of this double-edged sword yeah and that is if you like him too much you'll want to hang Trump so you become president that's the idea of having a dictator you idiots. You're the fucking Sith He loves revenge of the city exactly Anyway, what a trash episode that's bad stuff Roger Stone Andrew Wakefield Nick Fuentes What a pile of shit just just garbage allowed to be famous and oh my god Yeah, weird anyway. I think that Alex's intentions were poorly executed for whatever he was trying to do and maybe one day he'll learn probably not doubtful there only a few ways to do that and Dreams seem to be where he's at yeah. Yeah prophetic dreams. I doubt he's going to a lot of a
Starting point is 01:33:23 Graduate level courses in those prophetic dreams. Probably, probably not. So we'll be back with another episode, possibly. I don't know how to tease things. You don't know how to tease, you don't know how to hype. We were made for hyping. Possibly. Pulsibly.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Pulsably. A trade, nope, nah, I got nothing for that one. We'll be back, anyway, we have a website. Yep, it got nothing for that one. Who knows? We'll be back anyway. We have a website. Yep, it's NalsFright.com. Yep, we're also not on social media. Nope, no social media.
Starting point is 01:33:50 We'll be back, but until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo MDZXCark. I am the Mysterious Professor. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.
Starting point is 01:34:03 I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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