Knowledge Fight - #950: August 1, 2024

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to see Alex's response to Trump's recent behavior, and find him having his biggest epiphany, interviewing a "muckraker," and doing a string of horrible impr...essions.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and.
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Starting point is 00:00:43 Hello, Alex. Hey everybody! Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question. What is your name? I'm Jordan.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I'm Alex. I'm Jordan. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Alex. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, Jordan, is Venom 2. Let there be carnage. I was wondering when you were going to get there.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Yeah. I went over to my friend Angela Lampsberry and watched Venom 2 with her and her partner last night. A lot of fun. Those movies are good. They're great. They're delightful. Tom Hardy is killing it.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Spectacular. Venom's a great character. Two of them have fine... Electric in a way. The chemistry is there. It is really weird in a genuinely... sometimes when you're watching a romcom and the dialogue hits here, like, you know what? I get why these are here. And it feels a lot like that between Tom Hardy and venom. Yeah. And they're playing a lot of games in
Starting point is 00:01:55 terms of the storytelling that really work and really play out how they should. Yeah. It's great. It's just like, wait, come on. guys fantastic good job guys job. Yeah, good job. Yeah, I Maybe you know I don't I watch ton of movies Yeah, and maybe I just I'm enjoying I'm enjoying a lot of I even liked Morbius I do appreciate your your trip through the the Sony anti spider-verse It doesn't need spider-man. No, I love looking at it through your eyes. There's no need for Spider-Man. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:02:28 It is beautiful because it is like just a perspective of no expectations that is refreshing. Well, we watched Madame Web and then Morbius and then Venom and Venom 2. And I've enjoyed all of them for what they are, which makes me worried that if I were to actually watch the Spider-Verse movies, they'd be too good for me. They would be so good that I wouldn't be able to handle it. I will say that if I was going to boil down your reviews up to this point, it would be Morbius and Madame Web, good job.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Venom's, great job. That's it. Madame Web and Morbius, it was like I was defensive, like they told a story. Yeah, which is true. They completed the brief. Yeah. Whereas the venom was actually enjoyable. But anyway, good times. What's your bright spot? I was well, I had a bright spot this morning and it has now been updated.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So I'll tell you my earlier bright spot. So my hard drive containing all of my music had died. Right. This is a while back. We remember this. Right. Right. Right. And I forgot or not forgot so much but I had it backed up on my old computer which is a than a decade old. One of those classic desktop bricks. No. MacBook Pro brick ass huge. It's beautiful. Right. So I had to go through a four hour process of like redoing all of that stuff. But at the end of it I recovered everything. Wow. It's beautiful. You got your old, I recovered everything. Wow. It was beautiful. So you got your old collection back. I got my old collection, it was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It was a struggle, and required a lot more than I thought I was gonna be able to do. Sure. But it happened! So now, you get to go back through, and rediscover some stuff. Because, you know, once your collection gets taken away, you reclaim it, and you're like, oh my God, there's all this stuff that I had forgotten. I'd lost totally. Oh, I had I've had the same like
Starting point is 00:04:31 you know 200 300 albums on my iPhone for the past year and that's it. That's not enough It's just not enough sure so now it's all gone and I'm gonna restart from ah, it's beautiful great beautiful Well enjoy, but my updated bright spot is actually and not enough. So now it's all gone and I'm going to restart from, ah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Well, enjoy. But my updated bright spot is actually, and it is partially because I know you're getting better at this, which is accepting compliments. By no means should we be able to record this fast after this episode. It is a legitimately impressive thing that you turned it around so quickly.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I would have been totally fine. We're recording this before it gets dark out. I was expecting far later for a show that ends at three or whatever. Yeah, we're recording this at about five. Yes. And we're talking about Alex's show from today. It is legitimately an impressive feat for a team of people and you have done it by yourself. So accept this compliment sir. I challenge thee. I'll try. Okay. What would Venom do? This is the new question. Am I the Tom Hardy in this scenario? I'm not
Starting point is 00:05:38 sure. I would jump into a tank and fight a lobster. You are the person who would be more likely to have a weird YouTube show where you break down the truth stuff. But this episode's dumb, so that helps. That wally. This is pretty stupid. So I had been watching his show, and I was feeling like, there's not a whole lot going on. It feels like we're in another
Starting point is 00:06:05 gonna kill Trump again thing. Yeah, yeah. Just, I don't know, it feels like treading water a little bit. And then yesterday, as we're recording this, Trump went and spoke at the National Association of Black Journalists. And it was one of the more unsettling things you can see.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It was great, I loved it. It was a very mad person. Very expressive, pretty racist ideas. Oh yeah. Pretty. Oh, I don't know. Unhinged seems like a stupid word. I mean, the dude grabbed a water bottle and tightened it. I don't know what body language you need. He kept doing his hand stuff. Oh, he was very saying that That Kamala Harris had decided that you wanted to turn black or something. I'll just tell you what it's a person who thinks non-whites are equal to whites He's he's pretty like he's enlightened
Starting point is 00:07:00 He's also talking about how like JD Vance doesn't matter and cares about the vice president. It's great stuff. It was just all over the place and super fucked up. Once again, he has a talent for defeating the media that I think is unparalleled and should be studied because first thing that happens is this. He is saying extremely racist things to people's faces that his audience understands,
Starting point is 00:07:29 might as well be him saying, she's a lying N-word, right? They understand that. But the media goes like, oh, Trump questions birth identity, which is like, what are we doing here? We've gone down this road before. But then what it hides is even better all of the absolutely
Starting point is 00:07:48 Truly insane shit goes by the wayside because of this misreported racism Sure sure like JD Vance doesn't matter is an insane thing to say about your own VP pick Yeah, it would be tough to hear if you have Your Vance you can't you can't feel great Yeah, it would be tough to hear if you're Vance. You can't feel great. I mean, even HW is like, listen, I understand that Dan Quayle can't spell potato, but I'm standing by the guy. All right?
Starting point is 00:08:13 I love him. He's cool as shit. Not like, just because he can't read doesn't mean he's a problem. It was just disorienting in a lot of ways. Just the whole thing. It was supposed to go longer, then they cut it short. It just, everything was wrong about it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And so I texted you yesterday, I think we gotta cover Alex's response to this, because whatever it'll be, it'll be something interesting. Oh, totally. I guess. And so that's why we're getting this one turned around real fast. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But yeah, it's dumb. This episode's dumb. And one of the reasons is because as I was watching the stuff unfold with the journalist, the Black Journalist Conference, I was watching it and I was like, this is bad. This looks bad, you know? Like, this isn't gonna play well with audiences.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Anybody. Right, but then I was taking a step back and I'm like, he's actually kind of on message. You know like he this isn't gonna play well with with audience anybody right? But then I was taking a step back, and I'm like he's actually kind of on message Yeah, like ever like if you're a normal person and you're looking at this you're thinking whoa He's way off sure he is he's saying stuff that he should never be saying right But it's not that far off from stuff he normally says. It's not far off from the rhetoric that is pretty normal in spaces like Alex's show and other right-wing media outlets.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Like Alex has been saying that Kamala Harris isn't black for a while now. Like this is all pretty regular. Yeah. And so I was like, I think we're gonna tune in to Alex's show and there's gonna be nothing. He's just gonna be like, Trump did great. I mean, that's possible.
Starting point is 00:09:49 What if, what if, and now I understand this might be a difficult booking, but what if he got the ghost of George Wallace? He kind of does. Every episode. That's fair. Kind of, spiritually George Wallace lives within him. There's an angel and a devil on each shoulder, but they're both George Wallace and they say
Starting point is 00:10:09 the same shit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, this episode's dumb. We'll talk about it anyway. And before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So first, I don't want to be a baller or an Infowars caller. 20 Tito's Bottles't make Alex's tails taller. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Now that's interesting because as I was reading it, I started to realize that it's supposed to be in a rhythm, but I don't know if it's Sceelo,
Starting point is 00:10:37 wish it was a little bit taller, wish it was a baller. Or if it's Lil Troy. Oh. Wanna be a baller, shock collar collar 20-inch blades only impala sure I'm not sure which one it is. So whichever it is I wish I would have done it. The skanchin is a little bit different between the two. You have a you have a difference of I would say iambic. I think it was a little Troy. Yeah, that's possible. Next thank you for all you do Dan and Jordan
Starting point is 00:11:02 I hope Alex goes bankrupt and I get to listen to you guys read from the telephone book. Do they still have those? Thank you so much, you're an policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. We'll do that. Next, I consider myself an ass man, but Dr. Jones' big naturals got me shook. Thank you so much, you're an policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I like that I literally, we literally used to be semi-professional comedians and now somehow we're like, is this is below us I'm this is I don't think it's below us Next happy birthday Ben also Leonard Skinner does not prog rock. Thank you so much. You're now policy won't I'm a policy Thank you very much. I have to defend that it is not that I was calling Leonard Skinner prog rock It was that I was comparing Alex to a child with his prog
Starting point is 00:11:46 rock. Do you know that there's a specific type of kid in the 70s who was listening to Yes with their record player? Sure. I'm comparing him to that kid. Okay. Yes. Yeah. I'm a little defensive about this. Okay. I'm a little defensive. All right. You're right and wrong. I am wrong. So we had Technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Juniper TransfemEra. Thank you so much You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:12:26 I was looking back over it and I definitely think it's a little Troy. Hmm. Yeah. Okay good Yeah, I think the the rhythm meter is it cannot be ski. It can't be ski. Okay, so we start off the episode And I'll say you know obviously I'm tuning in because I want to hear the response that Alex has to the the journalist convention and Instead here is where we're at In four wars the most banned network in the world in the world, okay big epiphany in the last 24 hours Okay, what could this possibly be? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:13:08 He's not going to reveal it, is he? No, he is. Okay. He's going to talk quite a bit about it. All right. All right. Big epiphany. And I'll say it's mentally, from a mental health perspective, it's unhealthy even for
Starting point is 00:13:21 him. Oh, that's good. That's what level of epiphany we're talking about. Okay. Yeah, maybe Man, he would and what a great epiphany would be if it was like, yeah, I'm just gonna quit. Bye Well, what a great epiphany. Can I give you this tease? Sure It has nothing to do with his epiphany, but he does end up quitting at one point during the show Yeah, this all makes sense. That makes sense. So both of these things do happen. Yeah, this all makes sense. Yeah. So Alex teases a little bit here about his epiphany. Okay. And it's apparently the biggest ever. I've probably had, I don't know, 20 or so epiphanies in
Starting point is 00:13:54 my life. Your head blows off and you have such a massive understanding of things. But I had the biggest one yet over the last 24 hours. And I was just calmly grasping this this morning and already knew it for years. But the fact that out of humbleness, I had never talked about it. But it isn't really about me. I was just chosen by the establishment to be targeted.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And then now that's blown up in their face. And I was first told about this five years ago by Mike Cernovich, who's really smart and knows a lot of heavy hitters. I'll leave it at that. He advises some of the most powerful people in the world behind the scenes. And he said a little bit about it so I can say that, but it's private. But he is very smart. Oh, yeah, he definitely is. Love that guy. He's real cool. Sort of sucks.
Starting point is 00:14:52 So this is some revelation epiphany that Alex has had over the last 24 hours, which is the biggest he's ever had, which theoretically is bigger than than like the chicken fried steak. Mind blow. I don't know if that's an epiphany so much as a revelation. I feel like we're going to have to split hairs. I split hairs but it comes to words. Whatever. Fine. We'll put that in a different category.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Sure, sure, sure. This is still the biggest epiphany that Alex has had. It's based on something that Mike Cernovich told him like five years ago. Can you just be told an epiphany? Can you just repeat the thing somebody told you and call it an epiphany? I think so. I think that you can be told something and then it not really hit you until later and I think that that's what Alex is trying to express. Okay. He didn't internalize this or realize it. He just thought of it as a thought as opposed to something experience
Starting point is 00:15:47 So it's like a delayed release capsule. Yes. Yeah. Gotcha and Alex can't sit on it He can't he can't just sit like a delayed release capsule. He has to let it flow and he told me this and I was like Okay, and then over the years I was told this by other big tech people and others. I Mean high-level well known names, billionaires, you name it. But I'm I'm a theoretical guy. I'm not a technical guy. So I kind of just put it my memory banks and never really focused on it. And then in the last week, we've learned more information about the deep state who's targeting us and why they want me off air. And it was just like, so massive. And of course, it's not about Alex Jones. I want to break here today and start breaking. And there's no way I can wait
Starting point is 00:16:38 understanding this. I'm gonna obviously have to make some reports on it and detail it and then show some of the pieces to it. But 90% of it's hidden in plain view. I mean, they've said all these things over the years, the establishment has, and I didn't quite always get what they were saying or I only got one level of it. Yeah. So he didn't fully integrate all of this awareness. Oh my God. And this isn't about Alex. It's definitely not. I think it's about him. All right. Okay. Are you getting any sense of what this epiphany could be?
Starting point is 00:17:12 No, not at all. Sometimes, sometimes, well, I mean, I guess it must be about the deep state. Sure. Okay. So you know how sometimes Alex has, Alex says fighting words sometimes that are just like, this is a rubber meets the road kind of moment sometimes Alex doesn't say fighting words so much as like words that cause me to Involuntarily want to like slap him a few times like weekly just to like wake him up, you know I throw a bucket of water on absolutely not even necessarily one bucket of water like a Globe Trotters bucket of confetti just something something of like a, you can't say that, you gotta wake up man, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:46 And that like, I'm a theoretical guy, not a technical. I'm an ideas man. I just can't, I can't listen. I'm a big picture guy. Whoosh, immediately like involuntary, I'm not even thinking about it. So I'm gonna just kinda cut through this a tiny bit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Alex seems to think that the world is basically all about him. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Alex seems to think that the world is basically all about him. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So maybe the last decade of political stuff is all kind of his fault. Yeah. It's all about him. Hmm. Maybe everything revolves around him. That might be the epiphany. But here's the bottom line. I was chosen. Oh, God. More than a decade ago. And they've reported this. You know, it's like, why did Google serve Jones up,
Starting point is 00:18:35 you know, this many times and all that billions of times. And then they Google says, we're going to fix that. And then quote reverses it. And then, you know, counter counters it. And of course they, they, they admit they use me as the censorship model, the lawfare model, but because I was already in the model of their war gaming computers, what they're just updating with what they call modules. And so each new attack that rolls out is done to me first, because they've already built the module system, the control panel to the highest levels against me as an individual. Okay. Okay. So 10 years ago, Google chose Alex to be the model for the enemy.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Right. Yeah. So this is like, so Alex essentially thinks that he is the beta tester for Windows 95 Windows 98 like Windows was like hey listen if we can inconvenience this guy. We've got something He's the globalist like stress test right right right whatever they're rolling out listen. Hey this one didn't go so well Maybe we won't put it out for the rest of the world. He's like a taste tester. This is great This is a mess. I like it. I like that. I think it's a natural extension of a lot of the stuff he generally thinks, but articulating it like this is really pretty troubling. Yeah. This is really centering
Starting point is 00:19:56 himself in terms of all kinds of history. Yeah. I mean, you know, when you go back and you like, listen to or read something that Marcus Aurelius might've said, you know, when you when you go back and you're like, uh, Listen to or read something that Marcus Aurelius might have said, you know about the concept of solipsism in response to it and man's Responsibility to other men, you know I think I think most people were treating solipsism as more of a thought experiment as opposed to a way of life Mm-hmm like to literally believe that everything exists for you and then goes away when you fall asleep. I don't know if it gets more obvious than that. Well, I think one of the parts of this that is like, okay, here's where there's a sort of a scraping up against reality is like early on, Alex was one of the most successful persons
Starting point is 00:20:41 in terms of like gaming algorithms on YouTube. We've seen that in some of the episodes that we've gone over, like as Google bombs and stuff like that was incredibly effective in terms of rigging search results. And so yeah, early on in the days they were trying to find ways to make it so you couldn't cheat like this in order to abuse their systems. And so in that sense, I can see where Alex would be like, I'm going to take all these pieces and turn myself into the antagonist of this whole story.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, I mean, yeah, instead of it being beta testing Windows 95, it's like an antivirus software only updates because somebody tried to attack a certain spot. Right, it can't like, oh, here's an idea I have. It has to react to the attack. And Alex is the attack, not the... And I think that Alex even kind of that's in his conception. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He's infected their system. Oh my God. When they were expunging the photos and videos of Trump getting shot, not just off Google, but off Meta and everywhere else other than X, it's not just about sponging the photos and videos of Trump getting shot, not just off Google, but off meta and everywhere else other than next. Wasn't about just not
Starting point is 00:21:51 having the public see it happened. It was about testing war game systems that can expunge. And block information off the Internet because it's not about the people seeing it as much as it is about the audience of AI. It's being
Starting point is 00:22:10 trained. And that's what sort of it and I've got to get him on. He's hard to get on. She doesn't like being that public will tell you that. He was the first to explain it to me, and it didn't go over my head. I just kind of have this
Starting point is 00:22:23 filter that if it's about me, I kind of dial it back a little and go really come on. Yeah, and he said, you know I talked a lot of the top tech people and I've since met with him and you know, very well known People all asleep at that in the tech realm at the highest levels And I was told the same things then And he said no no They used you as an as like an avatar in this universe They're building online, and the Pentagon's done it as well, of an internet of things where everything in the world
Starting point is 00:22:49 has its own life in there beyond the metaverse. But think more like Tron or the Matrix. They're building the false world matrix now. They plan to overlay across the planet. And I basically then it backfired and my avatar and festival thing and What do you hear all this I mean this oh Okay, oh no wait till you hear all this you hear all this
Starting point is 00:23:16 I wish you didn't have a radio show. I wish you didn't have to go to break I'd be I'd be totally have it like this would be such a great 1 30 a.m. At a 4 a.m. Bar conversation. I see what happened is it my they try they're so afraid They're so afraid of me that what they did is they put me into the system as an AI being but I was too powerful I was Infested their AI systems and it's thrown off everything and that's why they hate me in the real world. This is genuinely making me nostalgic.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Like if I was doing a weekend, I would go down to the hotel bar, this would happen. And then the next night I'd be like, here's what happened at the hotel bar. I mean, it's just- You'd order the guy a beam and- Totally, yes. You and me sir. Get him on a good side.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Shot in the beard, thank you very much. I shall see you in the morrow It's a little bit it's a little bit Troubled. Yeah, it's no good. Also Google and Meta didn't expunge pictures of Trump from that Butler rally Google had pre-existing policies involving autocomplete suggestions for searches that it limited, suggesting searches that had to do with political violence. Right, right, right. They already had rules in place for that. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:24:33 This naturally applied to searches involving Trump's assassination attempt, but you could still easily find that photo and tons of stories about it if you just typed in what you were looking for. Meta and Facebook was a different issue. Initially, there was a picture circulating on social media that showed the Secret Service agent smiling after Trump was shot. This was taken from a real original picture, which was then photoshopped to have them smiling. That picture was tagged with a warning that it was a doctored image.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Some of the automated moderation systems at Facebook mistook the original picture for the doctored one, the oneook the original picture for the doctored one, the one with the agent smiling, and had attached the same warning to that image, but as soon as it was pointed out, this was addressed internally. So they weren't suppressing or expunging these pictures. Right. Because when you replace people who can tell the difference between a smile and a frown, other people or algorithms can't always do so. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah. And, you know, moderation of social media stuff is, as we've seen in the past, a horrific job for humans to have to do. It's, you know, you see all kinds of stuff that you really should not be exposed to. No, no thank you. It's kind of hazard pay that should be given to people in those roles is awful. You don't even know. So Alex believes that the man,
Starting point is 00:25:48 the man right in general, they're attacking him because they're trying to train AI. It's a mess. This is yes. Yeah, that's no good. We're going to get to eventually he thinks he's Neo. That's super no good. We're going to get to eventually he thinks he's Neo. That's super no good. Before we get there, Alex discusses how humans imagine things and then we build. Good, good. Teach me that. I explained all this. It takes about three hours. You have three hours. Literally, exactly three hours. Here on the show in the days and weeks to come. I think this is the best way to describe it on this Thursday, August 1st live transmission. Jules Verne's science fiction writer in the 1890s and then on through, wrote a bunch of world bestselling books. And if you go read the books,
Starting point is 00:26:42 much of what he envisioned theoretically has now been done like Elon Musk with his vertical takeoff rockets That didn't come back and land on earth was he the one who invented those The Rockets that were in the illustrations of books written a hundred and thirty a hundred and forty years ago Penises I say okay now we know about that and penises. I say okay now we know about that and there were theoretical max Planck equations in the 1890s of atomic weapons that then by the 1940s were developed. So there's just a snapshot or man dreaming to fly and then the Wright brothers you know just a hundred and something years ago and now look at
Starting point is 00:27:24 where we are today with Mach 15 missiles so like the Wright brothers didn't envision mock 15 missiles or anything that kind of waters down any meaning that Alex is trying to put into these points the Wright brothers didn't know that speed that sound had to speed right yeah yeah there's a lot of developments and it's kind of there's a lot of paths yeah yeah so humans have imaginations and we can come up with a bunch of stuff in them interesting some of that stuff People end up finding a way to make Sometimes that doesn't mean that science fiction writers like Jules Verne were mad prophets for telling the future or Jules Verne's
Starting point is 00:28:01 If Alex wants to play that game, he needs to discuss Journey to the Center of the Earth. Do dinosaurs live underground? Absolutely. He must be on to it. Why wouldn't they? Right! Give me one reason for dinosaurs to not live underground. So also, Max Planck had ideas, which were then built upon by other thinkers and scientists
Starting point is 00:28:20 that came after him. He was building on earlier ideas. He didn't have some kind of prophetic vision of magical equations that turned into nuclear weapons someday It's really dumb. It's it's this is also very important to keep in mind All right, these things exist all the time with or without us Dinosaurs under the earth. No the equations and all that stuff stuff they weren't like invented right they were discovered yeah It's not like it's not like it was different It's not like Newton was 100% correct, and then we got better no
Starting point is 00:28:54 It's it's like he's always been there. No. There's more to discover well whenever there's innovations. It's not really a discovery It's along the way a demon comes up and well, I was like Sure, hey sure max plaque. Yeah Hey, I got a constant for you. Yeah I don't know I mean, I guess I guess there is like a kernel of like just this romantic idea that's underneath this which is why this is Appealing sure that is like our human Our minds can have envisioned things and then we build them
Starting point is 00:29:26 But you know you go too far with it. It just ends up stupid. Let me ask you a question. All right, if Okay, is this a good idea? gigantic steampunk spider because if We're talking about making things a reality. Is that from you'lls-verns. No, that'd be from wild wild west wiki wiki. Oh, yeah Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I don't think it's a bad idea. Sure. Yeah Yeah, big spider. Let's do it. Well, do you know when they invented that? 1890 you know the problem with spiders is too small and not metal and not made of metal. Yep Yep, so Alex goes actually Alex would disagree with you in this next clip because animals are perfect what we envision over time we're
Starting point is 00:30:09 able to build we're made in the image of God little G but we are creators we are builders we're right now I'm a theoretical guy and a novice historian and really a future slap very accurate rate of about 98% well-known give or take and I gobble up just all the data and then come to my own electrochemical computer decisions stop the knowledge the universe consciousness flowing through me. Cool. It's not Alex Jones. I'm just a receiver, transmitter, transceiver, just as every animal on this planet is.
Starting point is 00:30:53 But we're not like the other animals, as you can see. So they have total consciousness in that the bees and the killer whales just live their lives and I'm sorry they're interconnected and they are so conscious that there is not a deviation where they can rapidly change their environment or deviate from that pattern what does in God's system they're basically perfect they are perfection it is our impurity that takes us to the next level in our quest to order the universe. What? The universe God made is the woman. Or the right hand, the male.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Okay. All right. All right, man. I get I, again. We're getting close to last call. This story, this story begin, the next night, this story begin. Ladies and gentlemen, I shit you not. The next thing this man said. Ha ha ha. Animals are perfect, they're all interconnected. Was the universe is a woman. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Universe is a lady, right? But order is a man. Ha ha ha. Go to bed. Go, you gotta go home. You gotta go home, dude. Where are you staying? Bees are perfect. Why are you at the hotel? Oh, there's one let me here.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Oh, that, yep, that makes sense. That makes sense. So yeah, he's hitting on a lot of important ideas here. So I think basically what we have is that animals are perfect. True. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality. And so they can never reach the next level of consciousness or reality whereas our imperfections much like friction leads to fire. Sure. That sort of imperfection allows the tension that's required in order for us to seek God. Right, right, right. The Japanese concept of perfection in Perfection yeah yep, Alex is really wise yeah
Starting point is 00:32:53 What's that type of pottery where they break it and then they put it all back together with gold Um I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, it's really cool. So Alex is neo Yeah, that sounds about right and the first person five maybe six years ago Mike Cernovich had been here had been on the show and he sent me internal Google documents how they were planning to censor me and had a whole battle plan and it made the news and they did do it you saw that happen he then called me a few times and then the next time I saw him, he was telling me this stuff and one time he reached over on my shirt and said, Hey, do you hear what I'm telling you? This is important.
Starting point is 00:33:35 He's like, Oh, did you know you're the main AI model that Google and the Pentagon have used as the opposition figure like as the Neo or, you know, as the guy that fights back in the have your identity taken. Sure. And they're going to create a new Alex Jones because you have infested all the AI models. Now, later, I got told this by high level Google people. And then I got told this by some of the engineers that work for Elon Musk. And then of course, I've had other meetings that I'm not going to disclose who with, but our household names in tech, multiple individuals. And at one of the meetings was in California with Mike Cernovich. He was there. Cool. We were talking about a whole range of subjects in a long dinner meeting.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'm sorry. And it was being talked about in all these different places just as an aside. Like why are the street signs everywhere green? Well, the Congress, you know, 70 years ago, whatever passed the law, that's the color they are. Well, it was like, why is Alex Jones in this position? And so I'm theoretically not really getting it. And I'm like, what? So he didn't get it back then
Starting point is 00:35:05 He's having these long dinner conversations with these household names in tech and they're all talking about how he is the Central hub of all of these globalist plans within within Google for censorship and for taking over the world Right. They all are going to need to change his identity because he, Alex Jones, the real person is too dangerous because he infects all their models. Right. He destroys everything if he is merely allowed to exist. Right. And that's why they need to create a fake version of him, which is what the media
Starting point is 00:35:40 is trying to do. Sure. Another round. I feel like I feel like I understand why it would take several years to to get this concept if it is being explained to you as like, you know how signs are green. That's you. Yeah, yeah, that would be very difficult to understand. I get that Congress has made a law that you are and you are those great. made a law that you are... Signs are green and you are those green signs. I don't know what you are talking about, Cernovich! You are the anomaly that spawns liberty. Why is that? Because signs are green! I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Fair enough. So, part of the reason that they decided on him, though, was because he had a lot of content after him. I thought it was because he was an asshole. I mean, that's definitely played a role. But it's mostly because he had a lot of content. I thought it was because he was an asshole. I mean, that's definitely played a role. Sure. But it's mostly because he had a lot of content. Okay, okay. And so I was chosen because I had so much media already from day one. In the mid 90s, when when when when video and audio was really proliferating, I was just by hard work and adoption and just by trying to get the word out. adoption and just by trying to get the word out, you know, had hundreds of millions of views on Google video per video. Some of them have like 98 million,
Starting point is 00:36:49 50 million, 60 million. And AI was already going out with these AI models. Google's founded in 98 to be an AI interface system. And so it was set up to get everybody's data to build the AI. That's what Google long term projects been. And so they looked at models to get everybody's data to build the AI. That's what Google long term projects been And so they looked at models and said who do we have a lot of data on? Who do we have a lot of information on? Of kind of the populist opposition to this that we need to get ahead of and they chose me Only because I had so much media
Starting point is 00:37:21 To be what they would war game against in their AI system. That's way more advanced. They're telling you. Way more ahead than they're telling you, and then to build the programs to then with all the new faster computing and
Starting point is 00:37:39 in storage, they're getting all your data and all of your recordings all of your photos and all of your writings. And those medical forms, you know, you fill out before you go to the psychologist or the doctor all that data is being scooped in and and then the Control panel module system they update was based on me And they also had some on governments and systems and corporations and obviously I'm just like a one button on a huge control panel of systems but because of that, as the AI got more advanced, they could not get myself,
Starting point is 00:38:12 and that means all my guests and everything we do, out of the learning modules as they train the AI that they want to prepare to take us over. So we've infected all of their training systems because the very nature of AI is it tries to go out and grab everything it can. They've tried to wall it off. They've tried to only feed it certain information. But every time they try to then deploy a closed AI into the general public, it immediately gets infected with Alex Jones. So you look a little worried.
Starting point is 00:38:48 There's a look of shock and dismay on your face. You're staring into the middle distance. I mean, I don't know. I don't at a certain point, I am worried that I am living in a movie where a man says things like this and then nothing happens. And wait till you see what else happens on this show. I mean, I don't, I mean, I, can I, you know, there's another part of it. There's another component that really, really is difficult to focus on whenever a man is
Starting point is 00:39:20 saying that his God King just said Kamala is a lying Edward on TV. Right? We're supposed to be talking about that. I've forgotten that that's what we're supposed to be talking about. That's why we decided to cover his Thursday show. Because this man has infected AI. Right. Because he had so much media out early because he had his radio show and he put out the Omi and Grove documentary.
Starting point is 00:39:43 No, Trump is a racist. Shut up. God damn it. So he put out the Omey and Grove documentary. No, Trump is a racist! Shut up. God damn it. So he put out all this stuff and there's so much content about him. National Association for Black Jacks. Should they have platformed him at all? They needed to create an icon of populism that would take down... There's so many things that...
Starting point is 00:39:57 He's Neo. He is Neo. You know what? I give up. I think I have to take... I'm Neo off my sign-off for the show now. I'm no longer Neo. You don't have the right. You think I have to take I'm Neo off my sign off for the show now. I think I no longer need you. You don't have the right. You don't have the right. So Alex's ideology is the ghost in the machine that exists. Sure. It's like they just can't get it out. Whatever
Starting point is 00:40:16 they can't get my information or information totally infested it. They can't get it out of the machine. It's the ghost of the machine. So they made the decision six years ago to write, when I say this, this is conservative, hundreds of thousands of articles. I mean, some weeks there'd be 500 articles that got syndicated. And when one AP article comes out, it's in every newspaper and in every TV station. the And when one AP article comes out, it's in every newspaper
Starting point is 00:40:47 room and every TV station, and you should be at just. I mean, more propaganda against me. Then then then before the first Gulf War in 1991 and the second Gulf War in 2000 and three seriously. And I was always saying this isn't about
Starting point is 00:41:03 me. Something's going on here. Did you do those? I would have my Google feed. It would say there are 14,000 articles about not me. Something's going on here. Did you do those? I would have my Google feed. It would say there are 14,000 articles about you today. And I turn on every
Starting point is 00:41:15 channel sometime at night or on the treadmill in the garage, and I would be on ABC CBS. You know, I'd be on the local news eight owned by time Warner. And the same message is the same stuff. It wasn't just about demonizing Alex Jones. It was about testing. The old media to flood the Internet and
Starting point is 00:41:32 program it with the new Alex Jones. That was two things gay frogs. And Sandy Hook, two small things I covered. So that there was so much smoke in the fog of this that that is all you would see or all that you would hear. That didn't work either. That didn't work. So this elaborate plan is to create all of these stories that are being put out about Alex 14,000 a day. Yeah, everything make it all about Sandy Hook and gay frogs in order to create a new version of Alex that'll live inside this AI
Starting point is 00:42:07 Because him and his ideas are too dangerous and they infected all the models So they're trying to create a like a less potent version of Alex that makes sense Which is now being overlaid onto the real world that makes sense to totally yeah Now I would say that the only reason that the gay frogs thing is big is because alex turned that into a meme himself right Second, I think people have been actually generous about what he did about Sandy Hook I think the reality is worse than a lot of people think much like Trump. Yeah, and then third One of the reasons that I started this podcast was because I got really fascinated by Alex in 2016 and there was no
Starting point is 00:42:47 resources about him. I was looking into stuff and there was no information about him except for weird blogs that said he worked for Israel and they were clearly just based in deep anti-Semitism. And there was very little like actual coverage of him. So this notion that he has of like there was so much about me They were testing all this stuff on me. I really rings untrue to me from this time before 2016 I think I think I get like I understand I think what he's saying Because it does make a certain sense if you can only view things through a weird narcissistic lens, right?
Starting point is 00:43:27 So if you are successful, you know, if you are successful despite being delusionally narcissistic, right? You can't just be like, oh This is success. You have to be like here is why I specifically am the success. It can only be because of me. Right? Well, as opposed to like a more honest situation, which is I started doing this thing, I stumbled upon a place that no one else was, and then people came to me. And then it came a feedback loop. And as much as it is me, it it's also them and it's also just kind of luck I guess you know and in a certain way you know like for us we you stumbled upon something that wasn't there that wasn't covered and it wasn't like you were
Starting point is 00:44:17 chosen by God you know but it was important and it needed to be done and so that's how it worked yeah it's not like you're some sort of super genius, which I'm not saying you're not brilliant, but it's not like you're chosen by, I'm sorry, Dan. Right. You were not chosen by God. Oh, and nor would I think that I'm Neo. Ah, I think you do think you're Neo.
Starting point is 00:44:37 No. You say it at the end of every episode. I'm making fun of Leo's a comic. I don't mean it. You can only wear a mask so long before it becomes one's a comic. You can only wear a mask so long before it becomes one's true face. Is Alex making fun of Leo's a comic? Is everybody making fun of him? What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:44:53 I think we need to make him a household name. So I was troubled by what I was hearing here because I mean this is... Oh yeah? What makes that? What troubles you? Mostly the themes themes the ideas the way it's being expressed sure i think everything around this is just pretty upsetting um and so uh he gets to this this idea of the the fake him that's being created sure
Starting point is 00:45:16 and he talks about how the sandy hook lawsuits were just done because of that this doesn't tie in. This is central to six plus years ago, the Democratic Party funds lawsuits in Texas and key jurisdictions they control in Austin and in Connecticut in courts they control to try to shut us down. Mm. And they have show trials where I'm already found guilty and put all this fake information about me. And then they say on the courthouse steps, we want, it's the same law firms went with Giuliani and Trump, very same people. And Elon Musk, they've sued him, same group.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And they say, and they have PR firms that go out and say these things you didn't say and then they build up this controversy about you're doing bad things you didn't do. And then they raise hundreds of millions of dollars off your name and then they create a new identity for you. They silence you, they censor you, and then they create an artificial you in the old media to now train the new digital universe with the imposter. This is the nature of evil. It's a counterfeit.
Starting point is 00:46:24 That is the nature of evil. So we know counterfeit. That is the nature of evil. So we know the CIA and FBI ran this. It's come out in court. They admitted it. Undercover videos, all of it. But I didn't have all the pieces together. He didn't have all the pieces until now. Everything. And I will say, I think he's expressing himself very clearly. Yeah. Oh no, I understand. It's a lot like why street signs are green. Mm-hmm. He gets it. I mean I get it Yeah, I've been swayed. It makes perfect sense. Yeah Yeah, this was not what I expected when I tuned in I was thinking I mean I was kind of expecting this at all honesty
Starting point is 00:47:00 Cuz it fits it fits the pattern if I'm not if I'm not capable of recognizing a pattern like this After this many years. I am though. I am at fault. Well, here's here's what's kind of interesting about sure if What Trump did at that conference that interview again forgot about that entirely? But what he said how he expressed himself is totally unsurprising based on the person that we know him to be yeah, right Right? Yep. But seeing it is still kind of like, wow, how about that? Still doing it, huh? Alex talking about how he's Neo and the Matrix is designed against him because he's too dangerous. Yeah. It's like, yeah, we knew this to be who you are. Yeah. This doesn't, it's, but hearing him say it is still weird. It is kind of weird whenever you can know what a person is thinking.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And yet the idea of them saying it out loud is somehow different. You know, like we are, it is, it is perhaps a great example of how we are social animals in like, I am totally fine leaving you alone as long as we're both quiet. You can believe all kinds of crazy shit I don't care as long as we're both quiet and reading our own little books. We can get our hair done together You know, this is but see this year what you're expressing is why we're not as good as bees Yeah, I mean they are perfect perfect perfect So I was I was listening to this
Starting point is 00:48:20 Alex talking about how they're trying to steal his identity in order to create a fake version of him and overlay it with reality This has been the plan since Google started. Yeah, and all this I'm like does what is this building towards? That is a good question. That is a good question because we are meandering at best quite quite off track Yeah, I think he's just mad that they wanted to take his Twitter. That sounds right So now under law, under law, I'm able to sell this company's assets to put it up for bid to a buyer's and I'm able to then, if I like who the buyer is, continue this operation on of the assets. And then I myself Alex Jones going to the future with their fake debt and all the rest of it. They're fake rulings that I'm appealing.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And that's fine. I don't care about the mission. You know a little bit of a hassle, but hey, I asked for it. There it is. Deep state's after me. They have now and I'm getting ready to release all this. Said point blank. Yeah, we want him off the air, we don't want any money. And they've told the new US trustee, who was appointed by the judge, that they want Infowars and they want the archive and they want the website because they want to shut it down
Starting point is 00:49:38 and say that they own it or somebody they have buy it does so they can go around and claim ownership of all the stuff I've done in perpetuity and have it removed and use AI systems to basically remove everything I've said and done from the internet censorship 3.0. They want to erase me. So here is what Alex is really up against here. He has to sell Infowars because he is personally liquidating his bankruptcy for himself. The process is still ongoing as it relates to Infowars, free speech systems,
Starting point is 00:50:15 the business. Alex has to sell that off as his estate gets liquidated. And so he will need to find a buyer. If he finds a buyer who is ideologically aligned with him, then they can keep the show going and maybe eventually realize, hey, we're at a loss here and just dissolve the business or something. Sure. They can do whatever. Sure. But if Soros buys it, in theory, he then owes it for wars.com. Alex's Twitter handle is debatably company property. Sure. The videos that Alex has put out, they could have a copyright claim on all of those things. They're theirs.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Alex, over the course of his career and on this episode, is very clear that he, everything is copyright free. Yep. You have the right to disseminate his shit. You can, like what we're doing is totally fine. He has no claim on any of this, his own stuff stuff you can make copies of his tapes and give them out but were someone else to buy the company they wouldn't actually have they wouldn't have to follow that they could copyright strike all kinds of stuff well I mean
Starting point is 00:51:16 they could take us down in theory would have to then copyright it though yeah yeah so that's a process how that process works it's fairly easy but it's an individual process so everything would's a process. I don't know how that process works. It's fairly easy, but it's an individual process, so everything would have to be. But I don't know if these things are not copyrighted at all, or if they are and Alex doesn't exercise any of it. I mean, if you aren't copyrighted, if you're saying it's not copyrighted, if you're a lazy organization by trade and you say things aren't copyrighted, I imagine that it's possible that you eventually stop caring. Maybe your lawyer at the beginning was like, we got to make sure we copyright anything. And then you're 20 years in and you're like, eh, fuck it, who cares? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Maybe. But what Alex is running up against is like, if I have to sell this company to somebody who is not a friendly to me Then I stand to basically lose ownership over pretty much everything that I've ever done Because all of that is through free speech systems and info wars calm so like the archives of his show Obviously, they're owned by free speech systems. He doesn't personally own those. Why would he? Right. Because he, I mean, it is, it is funny, like building the company. So you aren't personally liable from so much shit has, has only helped rich people up until this point, in which case he is both personally and professionally liable. So this, this is fucking wild. If it were only one, like if they hadn't, these lawsuits hadn't been both free speech
Starting point is 00:52:49 systems and Alex targeted, there's a way he could have hidden one way or the other. But because of this, it creates this really strange tension that he has to live in. Yeah. I just don't, I really, I understand the trustee, right? I don't understand why Alex should have any input whatsoever. You know what I mean? Like I understand that- Well, he has to have some input when you're, talking about selling the business,
Starting point is 00:53:17 because he is a single talent business, if he doesn't consent to work for the person, the company is worthless. So like if you consent to work for the person, the company is worthless. Right. So, like, if you want to get a friendly buyer, he needs to play ball. Right. If that... So, there is some aspect of it where he has to be involved in whatever happens if you're
Starting point is 00:53:37 in good faith trying to sell the business. Right. No, that's what I'm saying. You know, like, I understand the US trustee, but the trustee should be listening to the families, not to Alex. So, if the families are saying, we just want Infow US trustee, but the trustee should be listening to the families, not to Alex. So if the families are saying we just want Infowars shut down, then the trustee should go like, fuck yeah, we'll sell it for a dollar to Dan and Jordan. I think it should be a mix of the two. Sure. I'm not telling people what to do. I'm just saying it seems confusing to me that Alex has so much say over it. You know what I'm
Starting point is 00:54:04 saying? I understand why he has a voice, but I do agree with you that it should be quieter. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so we could get off this topic Because we I think it's been fully explored by Alex that he is he is fun most important person in the world Yeah, and he talks to a guy. He has a guest on okay named Anthony muckraker Rubin Oh god having a nickname like muckraker is not a good sign. No, it's a great sign. It's a great thing. So this is going on and the number between nine and 14 keeps showing up. Another big polling agency a month ago in Texas did one they found 14.3% of the people saying that they voted in the last midterm and it
Starting point is 00:54:43 was 11% in Texas and the one before that. That was just another poll. So that's enough to steal the election right there. And the Democrats have passed laws all over the place, all over the place to register illegals. They go, oh, but it's just for local elections. How many elections are just local? Almost none. Sometimes there's a special election. That's it. Now, incredible investigative journalists, broken some of the biggest stories in Mexico and in Central America and on the border, been kidnapped at gunpoint, you name it.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Anthony Muckraker Rubin joins us from muckraker.com and Real Muckraker on X on YouTube, Real Muckraker. So I have no idea if he was actually kidnapped at gunpoint. Right. I don't know. I don't care. Sure. If YouTube, real muckraker. So I have no idea if he was actually kidnapped at gunpoint. I don't know. I don't care. Sure. If so, that must have been tough. It could be.
Starting point is 00:55:30 But so they're talking about immigrant voting, obviously. Which is illegal. Uh-huh. But I also thought that now we're supposed to believe that the election is hashtag too big to rig. I thought that was the storyline that we had now. So now I guess voter fraud is possible and I can't keep straight what I'm supposed to be afraid of.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I well here's what I understand Alex to be saying. When we were running against Biden it looked like we would actually win. Now that we're running against Kamala it looks like we're going to have to steal the election. I think 100% we need to keep this ball in play because our chances might be feeling a little bit less good. Things have changed, yes. So Alex is interviewing this guy, Anthony Rubin, who runs a blog called Muckraker, which is a front for the Heritage Foundation. In addition to their project 2025, they also have a media bullshit wing called Oversight Project, which is run by a guy named Mike Howell. In a May 2024 interview with NPR, Howell said, quote, the relationship between Muckraker
Starting point is 00:56:31 and Heritage is very, very powerful one. It's not one we go into great detail because as you know, we're going up against a very powerful and dangerous people to include the cartels, weaponized Biden administration, et cetera, and we were not interested in giving an org chart out. Howell and Rubin himself were interviewed by NPR because the Heritage Foundation had just published a bunch of stories about how there was a flyer alleged to have been found in Mexico in front of an NGO called the Resource Center Matamoros, which said, quote, reminder
Starting point is 00:57:02 to vote for President Biden when you're in the United States. We need another four years of his term to stay open. This was written in what is described as, quote, awkward Spanish. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Almost as if it was written by someone who is not a native speaker of the language. It's awkward. So the logo for the Resource Center Matamoros and their founder's name were on the flyer. This person, Gabriela Zavala, denied any involvement or knowledge of the flyer and said, quote,
Starting point is 00:57:30 I was almost in a state of shock. This is completely untrue. This was after she started to get a bunch of threats. Sure, sure. Violent threats. Let me show you my signature. You're faking the signature. Oh, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:57:42 We're fucked, aren't we? So it's very clear that this flyer was a hoax because it uses outdated information that matched what was on the resource center, Matamoros's website, like a disconnected phone line that they didn't use anymore but hadn't been updated, as well as text that was copied from that website mixed with this added message about voting for Biden. It was a setup. Anthony Rubin comes into this story because he's the guy who claims that he found the flyer or he was the one the sort of The beginning point of how's his Spanish awkward?
Starting point is 00:58:10 So this was then reported on by a site muckraker and disseminated by the Heritage Foundation's Oversight project which is their media bullshit stuff attempts to follow up on this story were fruitless NPR visited the location where the flyers were supposedly found But this wasn't even a formal migrant center and it hasn't been serviced by Matamoros in years. Further, quote, migrants at the encampment denied ever seeing the flyers. NPR spoke with migrant aid workers who said they never saw the flyers or heard about them from migrants or volunteers. So NPR interviewed Howell and Rubin, the two people most at the center of this story, Anthony Mukareka Rubin and the guy from the Heritage Foundation. interviewed Howell and Rubin the two people most at the center of this story
Starting point is 00:58:45 Anthony muckraker Rubin and the guy from the Heritage Foundation Mike Howell was asked if they reached out to the resource center center matamoros or the named founder Gabriella Zavala Before they published their claims to which he replied why why why would I do that? What are you fucking stupid? I don't need them. I don't want them. Is that what he said? More or less. But since I said quote, here's what he actually said. Okay sorry, apologies, apologies. No, no, we published it. It was in the immediate public interest to know about the invasion in the United States. We had very little confidence that somebody who says their goal is to fight US policy and is running an invasion camp would be willing to play ball. There was no attempt to confirm the story because they knew their story would never
Starting point is 00:59:26 be confirmed, so who cares? The headline is what matters, not the story. Basically you could make up any kind of shitty flyer you want that says anything that you feel and if it's politically useful for someone like Mike Howell, he's willing to publish it. The person who you're making claims about is evil, so they would never admit that they're evil, so you should just assume this is all real and true. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Incidentally, it turns out that Anthony Rubin had been making a bit of a target of this resource center. Prior to the Flyer story being published, Rubin had gone to the center and pretended to be interested in volunteering, speaking to the center's director, Hugo Terones. Oh my god. Speaking to the Center's Director, Hugo Terones, Terones later told NPR, quote, that Rubin persistently asked him if he knew of organizations in the United States that could help migrants vote for Biden, or if he would vote for Biden. It seems pretty obvious that someone made a fake flyer that was passed along to Anthony Rubin, who reported it in conjunction with the Heritage Foundation, without doing any verification of their story, because it was all just meant to be the basis for an attack on immigration and the basis for claims of election fraud
Starting point is 01:00:29 in the case of Trump losing the election. It's incredibly transparent propaganda and this guy is super not interesting. Just some dime store ass James O'Keefe type. Yeah, yeah. Don't care. You know, it's interesting to think about in the context of like William Randolph Hurst kind of situation where it was essentially the same thing, but the reach wasn't as big You know what?
Starting point is 01:00:52 I mean like because of stuff like this now it can be disseminated in a million different ways through a million different You know instead of it being like William Randolph's Hearst's only publications publishing bullshit because fuck it, I'm a bitch, what are they going to do? You know, now it's disseminated through a million different things, you know, so this guy publishes it, but something like it is published somewhere else with maybe something, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, so it's not just centralized, it's a decentralized fuck ton of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:01:23 No, I see. I see what you mean I I just I what I'm lost in my head about is like would William Randolph Hearst be embarrassed by this one No, absolutely not. I'm so fucking literally pretty he would it through, you know, you would With abandon masturbate in front of an open window at this at the thought of this I just think the flyers a little thin oh he believed me he's he's enjoyed a greater career because of less yeah so the two of them their interviews margin largely mostly and largely largely about just making up shit and complaining about migrants. Yeah, that'd be fun.
Starting point is 01:02:05 This is people getting driver's license and then they get signed up with the Democrats and paid to vote from their addresses. Sometimes they get called the time, one person voting five, six, seven, eight times under different names they're given. So they're not just voting under their illegal name, their illegal alien real name. They're also sorry, the data mine Zuckerberg 450 million bucks he spent to get databases of dead people and folks that have moved out of district. So you move out of districts from another state, but you're still voting or you're in the ground. Dad used to
Starting point is 01:02:33 be a Republican. Now you vote Democrat. That's right. Yeah, that's right. So why do those people have to be migrants? If it's, if it's, if you can just go and keep voting over and over again, it could be anybody, right? I mean, wouldn't have that. It has to be migrants because that's the contract with the devil. I wish that that didn't immediately sound like something that he would say in response.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I mean, it probably. You know, it really doesn't. In the right mood? No, no, it's a, yeah, it's a minor, it's a minor magic thing I can understand within the prism of the conspiracy sure why they need to vote in their name, right? So we could we can go ahead with that right, but anybody could be using the Zuckerberg list Yeah, I don't understand that part. No, no, it's a
Starting point is 01:03:22 It's a it's a plot hole. Also, I think I think one thing we really need to do and I think this is this is something that we can also do beyond political divide. We don't need that for this. We got to figure out exactly how much money a billion dollars really is because because here's what I think of is something that's crazy expensive. I think at the end of it at the end of my purchase, I will have almost like no money in the bank left, you know? That will be a crazy big purchase. The idea of a crazy big purchase being like one one hundredth of your total wealth and that you make it after a year, that doesn't count. That's nothing. That's nothing. Yeah, that's nothing
Starting point is 01:04:09 Relative Nessus, you know what I'm saying? Like if you were like this cost Mark Zuckerberg $55 billion. I'd be like, holy shit. He wanted that like Musk and Twitter. Totally. Yeah, this will this is a serious purchase that he's wasting All of his money on good luck buddy. This dude needs this Needs this shit. Yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's tough. So Anthony, muckraker Rubin. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 And Alex, muckraker Jones. They both are calling for mass deportation. Sure. And you'll never believe the story that Rubin tells to justify this. Oh yeah? They know Trump's really 20 points ahead nationwide, more than 10 in battlegrounds. They think with the illegal aliens,
Starting point is 01:04:48 the dead people voting, it's still not enough. That's why they tried to kill Trump, but it's so close because of the fraud. They've got at least 10% banked in. Okay, so we've got to have maximum landslide to override this. We've got to have deportations of all the military age men immediately.
Starting point is 01:05:03 The country's entire future is hanging in the balance right now. Absolutely. You know, Donald Trump has talked about mass deportations when he's put in office, if he wins, I didn't like that. He dodged that question during the first presidential debate. That was not encouraging, but that's exactly what we need. We need mass deportations. I mean, it has to be scorched earth.
Starting point is 01:05:23 You cannot allow this to stand at all another you know I'm walking down Roosevelt Avenue yesterday okay this is a good people believe the story already said this there's gangsters in every corner but I'm walking down the street and I see a guy wearing a CDG hat that stands for cartel del golfo that's the same cartel organization that kidnapped my brother and this guy would not be wearing that hat unless he was part of that organization. Okay, these people aren't playing games,
Starting point is 01:05:47 wearing these hats for fun. It's not like a Yankees hat. And so, I mean, this guy wearing this hat, a golf cartel member, I glance at him, right? I'm just moving my head, but just looking around, just doing a pan of the area. And this guy starts screaming at me, threatening me. And these are the people that are in this country.
Starting point is 01:06:03 That's one of hundreds of thousands. And so, like you said, we need mass deportations. And I'm convinced that that is a compelling argument for why we need mass deportations. Because a guy with a hat that made me decide that he was a cartel member yelled at me on the street. When I would guess he was probably doing a little more than panning his head around. I'm just guessing based on his his track record of behavior trying to fraudulently go volunteer at this this resource center in Mexico No, it seems like a piece of shit. Yeah, also, maybe this guy with the hat was a big fan of Charles de Gaulle. I mean, I
Starting point is 01:06:40 don't Sometimes I don't... sometimes. Sometimes they make me angry at them and then somehow even more angry at the globalists. But it's in the same way that somehow people get angry at the puppet, you know? Oh, ventriloquism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where I'm like, Alex, if you're saying we need to get rid of all military-aged men, then if I'm the globalists, I'll just be like hey these guys don't believe women are people We can win in a heartbeat if we just make them have the guns sure You know like your plant or like okay these people think hats are
Starting point is 01:07:19 The only way that we can communicate with each other that we are also in the gang so We cannot wear the hats. Yeah, that'd be a good way to keep a low profile frustrating there There I think the guy was a Charles de Gaulle fan. I could have been yeah Airport I find this guy fucking dumb. I find what he does abhorrent yep, and he can go fuck off Yes, so Alex fuck raker Yes, that doesn't work quite as well, but uh no, but fuck him. Yep So Alex does finally get around to talking about the National Association of black journalists there we go He he wants to play a clip of Trump being combative and really sticking it to one of the moderators
Starting point is 01:08:04 He wants to do that. Uh-huh. But they play the wrong clip. Uh-oh. And then Alex gets really mad and then he storms off the show. Trump did a great job yesterday at the NABJ big black journal event. They came after everything they had. They're trying to
Starting point is 01:08:45 And she never said she was black until now and Trump is right to call that out. She's just it's all just lies It's all fraud Here was the opening of Shalva When they attacked him This is really really really important clip. It's clip one President Trump spends three minutes putting on a masterclass and not taking Rachel Scott's bait. Here it is Another had a stroke. Were the people who assaulted those 140 officers, including those I just mentioned, patriots who deserve pardons? Well let me bring it back to modern day. Let's stop here. I got confused because that's not
Starting point is 01:09:19 the clip I want to play. I want to get to another one in a moment. I want clip four. I want clip, clip four. Here it is. It's not true. You have told four congresswoman women of color who were American citizens. Let's just stop. Let's just stop now. I'm going to go to rebroadcast for a while. Because I'm loaded for bear. I'm ready to go. I thought these were other clubs. I want the opening thing. It says opening clip. It's not the opening clip. I'm okay. But I'm so prepared here and I sent the clubs. Clip four. And I'm totally confused. just can't do this anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:14 There's just too much information. God, I'm honey. This is too much. I'll send the clip again. It's how they open the conference up. I don't know how we play two clubs. It's not the club I wanted. Just just air something.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We'll see what's going to happen. Just I'll give you guys some time to figure out what you're going to hear. Just just play something. Okay, we're done. Thank you. One of my favorite genres of moment. I mean, you know what the problem is? The long, long pause.
Starting point is 01:10:52 It's the opposite of the problem. The long pause and then the, I can't do this anymore. No, that's the opposite of the problem. The problem is I think all of us deep down are jealous of the ability to do that. At any job you've ever had, the idea of just being able to be like, listen, I'm done. I'll be back. This is your fault. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I'm confused. I'll see you tomorrow. Like that idea of just being blunt and everybody going like, well, I guess that's how it goes. It's an American dream. We all wish we had been there. Now here's an interesting irony. So if you listen carefully to this, because I had to go back and make sure I wasn't imagining things.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Alex says play clip number one. And it's not the clip he wants. Then he says, I got that wrong, play clip number four. And he plays another clip and then he says, fuck this, that's not the right clip. That was the clip he was looking for. He just didn't realize it. That is the opening clip that they played. The second one was the clip he was looking for. Yeah, it did look like that. He just didn't realize it. No. That is the opening clip.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Oh my God. That they played. The second one was the correct one, but he didn't realize it, so he got mad and then stormed off air. I am going to say this, and I understand that this might make a lot of bosses angry over that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:12:03 There is no possible way that you can think clip number four is the opening clip It is simply not possible. Here's what here's the twist in this other ones writer. No, no, I understand Yeah, you can't be mad at the crew It is not possible for them to have thought that clip number four was the correct clip Especially when you literally said play clip number one clip number one the one that you would assume is the opening crew did literally everything Alex was asking them to do yeah it's not possible for it to be an asshole yeah so anyway he storms off but then he comes back and he's like I think it went pretty well I think I think Trump did a great job this
Starting point is 01:12:36 is the desperate power structure going after but now the media is spinning like oh disaster at this black event it was the opposite it was the real Donald Trump that was amazing and I'd say 80% of the support you could hear it in the like, oh, disaster at this black event. It was the opposite. It was the real Donald Trump. It was amazing. And I'd say 80% of the support you could hear it in the crowd. Can't hear any booze. You hear a bunch of support. Here it is. You have told four Congresswoman women of color who were American citizens to go back to where they came from. You have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser, saying the questions that they
Starting point is 01:13:08 ask are, quote, stupid and racist. You've had dinner with a white supremacist at your Mar-a-Lago resort. So my question, sir, now that you are asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that? Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question so in such a horrible manner a first question. You don't even say, hello, how are you? Are you with ABC? Because I think they're a fake news network, a terrible network.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And I think it's disgraceful that I came here in good spirit. I came here in good spirit. So yeah, that's a little bit of the feel that you get. You can definitely hear at least like one or two people clapping. So like, you know, but that is not a positive reaction that he's getting from the audience. I mean, it is a weird question because it would be better phrased as black people shouldn't trust you. Period. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Well I mean yeah it's the attacks that you make on black people seem to often have tones of racism built into them. You're a racist. Right. Well you want to ask it in a little bit of a nicer way. But see that's the thing and I mean he does have a certain point there Right because normally if you're asking somebody an actual question You do not list at least five to ten reasons why the answer to that question is one you already know, right?
Starting point is 01:14:38 Well, but at the same time Setting it up like this gives you the opportunity to, if you are a person who is not, let's say racist, respond in a way that is political. There's a way that you could answer that question in a way that isn't self-sabotaging. Sure, sure. But I will put this to you. Trump probably can. I will put this to you.
Starting point is 01:15:01 If you allow some, yeah, I mean this honestly. If you ask somebody that question and then are convinced by their answer, you are stupid. Unless it's a really, really good answer. Nope. You are stupid because that is how good the answer... If it's possible for the answer to be that good, then you are going to lose every single time. Sure. So I was surprised, I guess not really surprised. Like I brought up at the beginning of the episode, like this is on message for Alex. Yeah, this makes perfect sense. Yeah. So obviously he's going to think this went well. Trump
Starting point is 01:15:34 was standing up to the anti white racism of this event or whatever. Yeah. So it's not that, you know, it's not, it's not that not that deep now yeah, there is a clip of Kamala Harris and Apparently Alex believes that she does a little bit of a black voice in it. Okay. All right. We're gonna get a code switch Yes, okay in the same way that he talks like about how Hillary Clinton does different voices in front of different audiences I wouldn't call that a code switch So he believes that Harris does this. Sure. Um, and this, this clip is four and a half minutes long. Oh my God. And the reason is because Alex loses himself in doing various ethnic impressions. Sounds right. Here's a Trump on Kamala and I've got all the articles right here. She didn't say she was black and
Starting point is 01:16:21 now she's doing that thing. Clinton does. When she gets up in front of a black audience, she like then affects some what she thinks is like ghetto black accent. I mean, I would be insulted if somebody from New York came down here to speak to, let's say, Texas. And it's just a crowd of Texas. And somebody that normally has a New York accent gets up and says, How you doing today? I
Starting point is 01:16:54 want to eat some possum. I tell you what I wrote to work day on a horsey. I'm married to my sister. I got an outhouse. But instead these Democrat politicians who normally speak in whatever their real accent is get in front of black people and they start doing some caricature. How everybody doing today out there? Careful.
Starting point is 01:17:21 We just I mean like because they're psychos. They're not real people, they're sociopaths, per minimum, and they think that if somebody talks like- imagine if I went and spoke to a group of, say, Chinese Americans. Oh no. Oh god, I can imagine. They asked me to sit and speak to them. And then I do fentanyl.
Starting point is 01:17:38 And I showed up, and I went, hello, how you doing? I am here for you. Would you like some rice ball for you? I could I could imagine that being offensive. Yeah You don't have to imagine I could imagine that being like a rock song And let's say a asian-american group asked trump to speak and instead of playing a rock song coming out or whatever he wants to he plays speak and instead of him playing a rock song coming out or whatever he wants to he plays i'm turning japanese it's just the song that's real it's so patronizing and i'm not hung out with liberals a lot in my life but in college some and places you're with some white liberals you go to a mexican food restaurant and the waiter comes over and they go hello to the waiter and the waiter doesn't even have an Hispanic
Starting point is 01:18:29 accent hi what would you like well what do you want to drink how are you I would like a taco oh my god I mean you know they talk real slow do you do you get me I are you calling other people racist I don't understand when imagine if I let's say the NAACP asked me yes I know this another example instead of her say how's everybody doing today? Sure. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, that could be offensive. So let's play just the raw clip of her talking in a weird, she thinks ghetto accent. And then let's play the clip of her side by side with Hillary in one of her famous stills. Because if Hillary's talking to rednecks, she literally walks out and goes, how's everybody doing today? Like I I said I just killed me a possum and I'm all cook it look like granny
Starting point is 01:19:32 Where's death row I guess he's in the cement pond But if Hillary's talking to black people she goes hello everybody how you doing today He's talking to blind people she goes hello everybody. How you doing today? Or imagine if you go visit Germany and you walk into a restaurant they say What would you like to order? Well, I would like to order a Beer and I would like to order some beef a little Marvin the Martian I was gonna say that I kind of like that boy I would appreciate if you did your whole show like that they would think you were insane yeah yes 100% or if you're in Can you give five more? What do you recommend my friend and then you go even further just kind of affect with their voices
Starting point is 01:20:42 Right I thought I was hallucinating while I was listening to that is Right. That would be offensive. I thought I was hallucinating while I was listening to this. That is crazy. Well, because it goes on way too long. And I think he just likes doing voices. And that's fine. I think I get that. I mean, I get it.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I would say he doesn't have a lot of range. I think that some of these are pretty bad. A lot of overlap. But here that some of these are pretty bad. A lot of overlap. But here's the path that he went down. He believes that Kamala Harris speaks differently to different groups of people. And so he is lampooning that, I guess. The first thing that he comes with is, like, what if I were speaking to a group of Chinese Americans? Right.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And then he proceeds to do a character that he does do a lot on his show. He does. So the premise is really off to a rocky start. What if I did what I do? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I can imagine that. And then he just, I think that he just wants to do offensive impressions. Yeah, yeah, I mean, here's part of the problem,
Starting point is 01:21:48 as far as understanding what it is anybody is ever talking about. Going to France and then speaking to a French person in English with a bad French accent. Acting like you're Pepe Le Pew. Is not at all similar to like a code switch. No. Because a code switch is meant to like
Starting point is 01:22:10 better communicate with people as opposed to going up to them and insulting everything that they are to their face. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. That is true.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Yeah. There are ways in which it is inappropriate. Yeah. I mean, I think, I don't know what prevailing theory is right now. I think a lot of people for the longest time would have said that growing up without having to learn a code switch or without having to indulge in one would be a sign of like privilege or honor, you know? But then I think lately a lot of people are changing their minds and saying that it's actually a like a bad thing because it's separating people from the community. You know, it's a lot like being adopted by white parents, that kind of thing and no longer having a
Starting point is 01:22:59 connection to. Yeah. So no, fuck Alex. I'm not I'm not sure how to parse a lot of that obviously sure but I know that that's not what Alex is talking about no absolutely he's talking about absurd caricatures of racist images that he has in his head yeah and that's how he would act or he wouldn't act he definitely would yeah yeah yeah no no very strange yeah so I was like okay this was like a five- minute string of impressions that Alex did. Yeah. What did Kamala Harris do?
Starting point is 01:23:29 What did she say? That is a good question. And so he plays the clip. Here's a clip, sir. You believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman? Well, I can say no. I think it's maybe a little bit different.
Starting point is 01:23:42 So I've known her a long time indirectly, not directly very much. And she was always of Indian heritage. And she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?
Starting point is 01:24:02 She is always identified as a black. I respect either one. I respect either one, is she Indian or is she black? She is always identified as a black woman. I respect either one. I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't. Because she was Indian all the way, and then all of a sudden she made a turn. And she went, she became a black person. Just to be clear sir, do you believe that she is a black person? I think somebody should look into that too when you ask a continue in a very hostile...
Starting point is 01:24:22 And you all helped us win in 2020, and we're going to do it again in 2024. Yes, we will. So that's it. That's well, yeah, there you go. Proves everything. I don't even see that as that's not even close to something that is a strange manner of speaking for, I don't know what's going on here. It's so weird, it's so weird in America
Starting point is 01:24:52 how people get away with that because it is like, it just goes all the way back to the beginning of just like, it's just the other, it's skin color, it doesn't matter what a percentage in the very beginning, it was like, oh, you look, it's a look. It doesn't, it's not a number. They didn't have blood tests or DNA tests.
Starting point is 01:25:14 They, you just look and then we're offended. We offend you for it. Yeah, it was a method of exclusion. Yeah, it's still the same thing. Yeah. It's not about the numbers. No, but he's yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:27 I just think that there's something really shocking about hearing somebody say she turned black. I mean, that's it. It's so insane. I think it is part of why it's insane is because people are engaging with the euphemism instead of just the very simple and easy to understand thing of she does not look like me I Only think people who look like me deserve to be in the country. That's what he said That's underneath a lot don't engage with I think she's 45 percent. No right no It's a silly argument to approach on his terms exactly I agree with that yeah It's just I don't know. I don't know how you can even handle it.
Starting point is 01:26:08 It's insane. But thankfully we don't have to handle it with Alex doing any more impressions of ethnic groups. That's good. The voice she's doing is like a cross between white hillbilly and I guess southern black, but that is like like I just couldn't imagine again I Got asked to speak in front of the Japanese American you are imagining right now. This is what you are And they have me on top of the economy and I walk in and I go, and I'll have a whole whole news for you. You are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are you are
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Starting point is 01:27:28 And then insulted them directly to their face. I can imagine that yeah, yeah true I Just feel like it's gotten sad now Alex's impressions the fact that he did a long string of them well still sad yeah It's self-contained the fact that he played the clip and he's like, I gotta do one more. Yeah, it's just a bummer. Yeah, it's desperate. He clearly has nothing to talk about. He just is longing for the days of just it's just so much movies. It's
Starting point is 01:28:00 still movies. It's like his his accents are all things that he thinks people sound like from movies like yeah It's kung fu movies. It's not like a Shanghai Shack movie. It's it's samurai movies Yeah, it's not you know these based on yeah stereotypes. Yeah, that were built on Racial characters yeah, absolutely good times yep, so the Olympics are going on you've been keeping up I have I've enjoyed the Olympics It's been a lot of fun this year. All right. You've been seeing some women's boxing I have not seen any women's boxing I just heard about all the things people are saying and I want to strangle the internet all of you need to go
Starting point is 01:28:36 This isn't gonna make you turn it off. Turn it off. Turn all of it off. No more electricity Alex has some thoughts. Oh god, no more electricity for anyone about Women's boxing. Nope we all lost. Algerian boxer Iman Karlef wins fight at Olympics after being cleared to compete in women's events despite eligibility fight as Italian opponent abandons bout. Boxer brings issue of Olympics gender testing to surface. Wow. Disgusting. Women need to boycott all this. We all need to boycott this.
Starting point is 01:29:20 We need to know anything else about the Olympics. It's this right here. They even got him adjusting his junk. Got to get his pee pee in order. That's a dude. And look, it's a mean dude. All snarling. And then after she quits, he comes over and walks by her like he's going to hit her again. Man, you're a real tough guy, buddy boy. You know, I'm out of shape, but I guarantee I'd get in a ring and beat I'd knock that son of a bitch out in three seconds. I'd punch him so hard in the jaw right underneath the jaw break his teeth off. But he matter he's wearing that
Starting point is 01:29:57 Stupid ass mouth guard. I'll break his jaw so fast. I'll make his head spin. I'll break my hand on his ugly head Son of a bitch. Piece of shit. Absolute, disgusting cockroach. Go ahead and play the 46 second fight. Here it is. So that boxer, Imane Khalif is not trans. They're just getting mad about nothing. Because they hate people who don't conform to their ideas, I guess, or precise notions of gender. So Alex descends into violent fantasies.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I do think it would be really interesting to see him try that boxing match. You ever see that Jackass episode where Johnny Knoxville boxes Butterbean? It could be like that, I think. I think this is actually such a great example of what we were just talking about. It's not about percentage. It's not about that. It's not about people being or not being. It is about the appearance and the ability to exclude the other. It doesn't matter if you are or not trans. No, but we're going to use that as a cudgel. Exactly. It is all of us. All of us at any
Starting point is 01:31:19 point in time could be chosen to be the other if we're in a small enough group. And that is why all of us need to stop this shit. It would be a wise lesson to learn. And this is just disgusting. Alex descends into quite protracted hate-filled ramble. But just to give you a little sense of how informed he is on this story. Here's a little clip of him saying something The main Khalid is the definition of a piece of filth Beating up a woman on international TV
Starting point is 01:31:58 snarling at her Celebrating and then proudly getting a gold medal I'm laughing cuz I'm not I don't want to cry here. The Olympics is a total joke. Look at this guy's face. As he punches a woman in the face. So he thinks that she won a gold medal. It was a preliminary round.
Starting point is 01:32:18 You know, medals haven't been... I mean... He just doesn't even know what he's talking about. He just knows that this is what he's supposed to be angry about and he's getting angry about it It's touching into a lot of his feelings and yeah I don't know I mean we started this episode with him talking about how he's neo and Google has planned all their shit based on his resistance bunch of nonsense and we descended into a
Starting point is 01:32:40 slew of racist impressions He talked to this weird guy who did some James O'Keefe kind of stunts to stoke hatred of migrants. And now we're into, I hate trans people because I was told to, and I'm going to yell about this boxer. I'm, I, I am Neo. The internet is built around me. And now to prove that I'm going to follow whatever is popular today. Yeah. I'm going to follow whatever is popular today. Yeah, I'm gonna get mad at the thing that the right-wing meme factory told me to be mad about.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Told me to be mad about, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he does go quite deep into his trans hatred. Great. Calls everyone predators and all that shit. But here's a little clip of him talking about Elon Musk's child in a way that is not appropriate.
Starting point is 01:33:31 And you ask why do they do this? Because the sky is the limit. They want to see what they can get us to put up with. And the craziest thing the globalists can come up with is this. And then mainstream media reports on it like, well, there's a little debate about it, you know, but we love women. The globalists don't like women. They want to destroy women. They want to inject you with poison shots. They want to sterilize you. Like Elon Musk said about his son, who's being sterilized as we speak. His son is dead. He sent his son because his wife wanted to to an elite school
Starting point is 01:34:15 in the elite school brainwashed his child and they took his child away from him and they sterilized him. And now you got to go on less to deal with. But but think about the cult. Like, OK, we're going to sterilize people's kids and make millions of dollars over their lifetimes, ruin their lives and your whole CIA cult. Do you think messing with one of the most powerful people in the world? Is a good idea? No, they don't have any sense. To them it
Starting point is 01:34:52 was a bigger win. Oh, we've got Elon Musk's firstborn son. Instead of cutting his scalp off, the son of our power will chemically destroy him. So this is interesting because Elon Musk's daughters come out and talk about how he's a piece of shit and he could fuck himself with all this nonsense. And I think I think that what Alex is expressing is really, really weird. I think it's a very strange mindset because I guess what, here's what I had to wrestle with. Right. I think the firstborn son thing is actually pretty important because he believes that race memories are passed down in the firstborn son. Sure, sure, sure. That's Bible shit.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Right. But he does believe that. Sure. He believes that- I mean, half of them believe that. Alex does. Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Alex believes that your firstborn child is critically important because that's where all the epigenetics go and all that shit. Right, that makes sense. So he is thinking about it on even another level. This cult has come along and stolen away the race memories of Elon Musk.
Starting point is 01:35:57 It's not just a child, it is the child. The Lissan Al-Qaib? Yeah, it's a win. Getting any of his kids would be a win for the cult getting the firstborn son That's the that's a birthday cake win, right? Yeah, that's where the that's where the magic that's where the medics come in or something. Now we can use it to This is all just disgusting. It's just fucking disgusting. There just aren't words. Yeah, they just aren't at a certain point So let's not dwell too deeply on this and let's move on to another guest As I thought like okay, we've had enough this this episode has been stupid. Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:37 but Truck-raker Alex has found a way to impress me. Okay. With how stupid this shit can actually get. Okay. Here's a clip of the pastor coming up next hour. And I saw Trump rising up and then I saw an attempt on his life. This bullet flew by his ear and it came so close to his head that it busted his ear drum. And I saw he was, he fell to his knees during this time frame and he started worshiping the Lord he got radically born again during this
Starting point is 01:37:11 time frame I'm talking people say he's saved now but he becomes really on fire for Jesus for what I saw coming Brandon Biggs joining us oh my god next hour very exciting prophet Brandon Biggs joining us next hour. Very exciting. Prophet Brandon Biggs is going to be on. Did he say it before? He did. Okay. He did.
Starting point is 01:37:31 All right. But also he's wrong. Sure. That's not what happened and Trump is not now filled with zeal for the Lord. No, his eardrum didn't burst. There's factual problems, but he does address that and I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, horseshoes and handgragas
Starting point is 01:37:45 He said they I assumed his eardrum at burst because look what I saw, you know, like I saw blood on his face You know like I actually in a dream I imagine it would be hard to get an actual diagnosis if you're if you're witnessing you'd be like, ah, perhaps his eardrum Yeah, if I'm talking to a prophet, you know, that I'll accept. I don't think it's bad. It comes to interpretation. I don't think it's bad. I don't think it's bad. I think I've heard far worse explanations. So I'll give him that. He comes on and he has some prophecies. Sure. This guy. Well, I don't know. A lady in a ballgown. Okay. Going to try and kill Trump. All right. Some terrorists coming in the border. Mostly just right wing fantasies. A lot of it. Yeah know, I've seen a woman trying to take him out
Starting point is 01:38:27 That was at his resort and the Lord showed me she had like a French twist in her hair She was blonde-headed and I saw her walking down these steps and she had like this ball gown on and she actually tries to take Him out then and I've seen Three major terrorists come across the border in Arizona the the American people. And I saw a massive attack on the Americans on the soil here, and he warned me about this. I saw he had a big beard. Yeah, he was heavyset man. I saw
Starting point is 01:39:12 these other two men that were standing beside him. They were skinnier looking. And he said, uh, they're planning massive attacks, and I saw these, um, uh, sales of people that were here coming from across the border. They were. They've saw them. I saw them. I saw them. I saw them. I saw them. Uh, cells of people that were here coming from across the border.
Starting point is 01:39:30 They were. They've been here for a long time, and they're waiting on their orders. And the Lord showed me these people all in these like when they when they are are like they're in some kind of command. They have some way of communicating
Starting point is 01:39:43 and whenever they are told to do, they're going to strike, strike, strike, and I saw them like ants coming up out of the ground and the Lord said they're underground he was telling me it's Just like a type and shadow what he was showing me is that they're coming up They're gonna come up out of the ground out of their hiding place which means suddenly suddenly good clarification I'm like I'm listening to this and I'm like Massive attack? Yeah. All right, yeah, tricky.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Yep. So yeah, I'm listening to this and I'm like, oh, here's the key to the puzzle. You said at the beginning he's a big fan of Alex's show. There is that. So he just listens to like right wing media and then he like pretends that he has visions from God that affirm all of those paranoid fantasies.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Yeah. Yeah. Woo. So as it turns out, he was a guy who was a janitor at a church for a number of years, cleaned a lot of toilets. I don't... And he was alone in these bathrooms cleaning toilets and God would come and talk to him. And that's how he started getting visions. And yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:42 I don't think there's any difference between a janitor or a preacher getting visions. I don't think there's any difference between a janitor or a preacher getting visions Mm-hmm. I don't think there's any difference between those two. No, no, I'm just telling you what he said his story was Nope. Nope. This is I think it's a better story. Honestly, then a preacher now on YouTube Man, it'd be great if he was it. Here's what it would here's what needs to happen for him as a storyline Right. It needs to be I was a janitor, I made these prophecies, then I was elevated, you know? And now I am the pastor of my church. Well, he is kind of, it's just on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Eh, eh, not good enough. Well, God told him to do the YouTube thing. God needs to get to work. God told him to do the YouTube thing, this is what he's supposed to be doing. That is nice of God. So he has another prophecy. Okay. Of another COVID. There's going to be another plague,
Starting point is 01:41:27 but it has to do with I think ozempic. But the major thing that the Lord has been talking to me about to warn the people is they're they're designing a new plague. And he said, Brandon, I need you to tell my people that there is a massive plague that will make COVID look like a walk in the park. He said, Brandon, they are using AI technology. And I saw them taking the DNA code of this virus that they're making in a lab. I saw these leaders, I saw these people, I don't, from my life, I probably shouldn't name their names, but I saw these men in a meeting and they were designing this virus. It was going to be spliced with the medication
Starting point is 01:42:14 that you take for a heart disease and diabetes and things like that. And they were using it with AI technology. The people who take those viruses, He was the lowest. You're talking about a binary weapon. It would be clear. You're saying it was designed to hit people that were already on certain medications. Yes, sir. And it was, and he said it would be, it would. It was genetic code the way they were doing it with DNA.
Starting point is 01:42:36 And he said they were using that kind of technology somehow and making it into a super virus. And he said, Brandon, there will be no vaccination that they will be able to come up with this. This is made making it into a super virus. And he said, Brandon, there will be no vaccination that they will be able to come up with this. This is made to have like a genocide against the people. And he told me, he said, you must warn them that they're going to do this. So when Brandon says, he said, that's God. Yeah, I would assume so. Yeah. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Yeah. So this is stupid. Another just-wing media sort of fear type of thing. Yeah. Here's where my mind went while I was listening to this. Okay, so God is telling you that there's going to be this plague that is like, there's no fix in it. No, no, no. You're fucked. So let's imagine someone does develop a vaccine. Sure. You should take it, right?
Starting point is 01:43:26 No, no, no, no, because then you'd be going against the will of the Lord But what what but these prophecies sure they're very explicit about how like they're being given them so they can change the future Right. That's why God is telling them these things Yeah God's a God's a weirdo like God's making the he's having them be a messenger so we can avert these crisis sure sure sure So if there is this plague coming and it is like hey, it's real bad. This one's a real serious one Yeah, real bad. Yeah, someone comes up with the vaccine. You should probably take it right now. I'm gonna die anyway now No good. They'd find a way to be anti-vax. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I just
Starting point is 01:44:04 I wish I wish Prophecies are fun though. Hmm aren't they not when they're just this Yeah, the prophecies are kind of funny when they're they're a little silly. I wish I was in the room with the three Scientists as they're making the human race ending virus just like dude. Are you shitting me? Do you know what we are doing right now this is fucking crazy AI to change genes of epic I'm gonna snort it so I found this guy to be a little bit of a rambler a little bit of I found his predictions boring I found him uncompelling but
Starting point is 01:44:42 Alex feels the spirit. Okay. And I saw it was a great, like a yellow cloud. It was like a plague coming out of... It was airborne is what the Lord was trying to show me. And there was literally camps of people. All the hospitals were overwhelmed. They were overwhelmed with all the people that were dying from this virus. And they had tents. the the the
Starting point is 01:45:10 the the the the the the they were going to die. I mean, once you got the virus of what this is, you did not make it. And so I want you to continue on throughout the hour. And because I can tell you're real. I can feel the spirit that you guys are on target. And I've seen some of the things you've said they've come through as well. And I've had similar things happen. And I never really wanted to even say it on air. But I know when it's God telling me something. Yeah man this is powerful stuff. So now might be a
Starting point is 01:45:46 good time to tell you that this guy one of his websites is last days 247. Which I think is one of the most perfect websites. 247 end times. Yeah. Forever. It's the end times forever. I don't know. Perpetual never-ending 24 hours a day seven days a week from here to eternity It's the end times. Yeah Such a self indictment. Yeah, there's something of a something of an Ouroboros there Yeah, maybe maybe just a little bit last days 24 7 as long as I predict it all the time eventually Things are gonna end. Yeah
Starting point is 01:46:24 We're gonna we're gonna get to the end because this is just gonna keep going till the end. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it would be so shitty. Actually, I'm super stoked that we don't live for like thousands of years. Because it would be super shitty if you had to be around a guy who is like, right around the corner. It's coming right around the corner.
Starting point is 01:46:43 You said that 500 years ago. I mean, like, dude, we can't do this anymore. Calm down. Yes, I get it. Maybe after a few thousand years it will... I mean, that's kind of how things work, man. Just leave us alone. This time, I'm going to ignore you. Yeah, you got to go to bed, man. So he's one of two YouTube pastors who are on the show.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I'm sorry? Yeah. And so the second pastor, whose name I didn't write down, he believes that end-time prophecies have been a little bit misinterpreted because of a Western bias. Oh yeah? Yeah. Which Alex shouldn't agree with. A Western bias? Yeah, yeah. Fascinating.
Starting point is 01:47:22 And so he believes that there's going to be an Antichrist that comes out of the Middle East? Nat, sure. Dr. David S. Bauer, Ph.D. And the Antichrist, I think the epicenter has been wrongly taught because America is a bit American-centric and because the ancestors of Americans usually have come from Europe. Nat, no we're not. White hater. Dr. David S. Bauer, Ph.D.
Starting point is 01:47:38 We have a very Euro-centric gospel, Euro-centric eschatology. I think it's part of what I'm trying to say. Nat, sounds crazy. What are you talking about, say? Dr. David S. Bauer, Ph.D. But the center of the Bible in the center of the Antichrist be system is going to eventually be in the Middle East What and this is where Obama is very interesting I had Before this show a few a couple of months ago where I saw Obama and he did in the dream I heard he did the old switcheroo Whoa the old switcheroo Whoa, the old Biden dropped out and all that and I also prophesied and I said I have the date for when he would drop
Starting point is 01:48:09 out and that's on YouTube the exact date of it within you know about 14 hours and He said in my dream by the way God's talking to us. I called the same day the 20th 21st I did it too. I Did that just can't not I just cannot let it go I did that to couldn't allow it to slide one time, especially when you know Really highlighting it kind of does diminish the power of this this prediction. Yeah kind of maybe it seems like everybody might lot of people might have said it Interesting.
Starting point is 01:48:45 So you had a dream that Obama did the old switcheroo. I think it's so great when people make the basic observation that the people in the Bible did not know that America existed. And therefore, all of the prophecies were probably not about America. But they are. Well, fair enough. Because Obama did the old switcheroo. I did not see Obama do the old switcheroo.
Starting point is 01:49:10 So that is on me. The switcheroo is in the Bible. That is in Revelation. I do love a good switcheroo. So he did not end up getting a chance to finish his thoughts. But I think that what he was getting at is we're getting back to Obama's going to turn the US into a Muslim caliphate.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Right, right. No, no, no. That's got to be it. That's the switcheroo. 100%. We're getting back to 2015. Yeah. Obama did the switcheroo and Kamala is going to do the fumble-roosky and then we're going
Starting point is 01:49:36 to have a caliphate. The old whip-whip. Yep. Makes perfect sense. This is fucking so dumb. This is so stupid. What are any of you talking about? Nonsense.
Starting point is 01:49:47 So we've one last clip though. And this is a discussion of how Brandon doesn't go to a church. The prophet doesn't go to a church. Well, anywhere where two or more of you gather in my name, baby, that is a church. But he tried to go to a church. Well, him by himself is not a church. On YouTube he's a church. But he tried to go to a church. Well him by himself is not a church. On YouTube he's a church. But he tried to go to a church church.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Oh bad idea. Yeah. We have a very soft gospel. I've come here. I used to live here. And I've come back after 25 years. In my opinion America is unrecognizable. It's totally clouded over by fear.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Fear of lawsuits. Fear of everything. The church is afraid of prophecy and prophets. They can't stand it. You know, Brandon was, can I say Brandon, what happened to you when you gave that prophecy? Do you want to keep it a secret? I'm not going to name names. Name names. Yeah, I guess you can. I mean, let's name the names. Go ahead. What happened? No, no, no. I want to be kind to people but this is America. This is a little microcosm of America Brandon's come to me because he couldn't find a church for God knows like ten years. He hasn't gone to church
Starting point is 01:50:52 He can correct me on the number he came to me, but he said, you know I want my kids to go to church and want them to go to youth group and all that so he goes to a physical church in Tulsa famous minister and They find out about the video that I did and recorded him and I released on our channel. It went viral, two million views, and rather than embracing it as God is so merciful and He's warning us, what they did was when he walked in the next weekend, they assigned an usher to him.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Now I thought at first, that's nice of them. No, no. This usher is to walk with him to the bathroom and back to block him from talking to any of the church members and To escort him out to the car park as soon as the church service ends Now this is a pretty famous because the churches have become dens of deep doubles Well, that's that's what I'm saying is how can America be saved if we can't wake up a remnant of people Yeah, Brandon should be up on the stage not being harassed.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So I was listening to that and I thought like that's a pretty well-run church. It's nice of them to not ask him to stop coming. Sure. He's obviously showing indications that he could be a disruption. Sure. Yeah, he's obviously showing indications that he could be a disruption. Sure. And maybe make church not such a pleasant experience for a lot of people who are there.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Cut into the tithes a little bit. Yeah. Cut into the community stability. It is tough with religion whenever you start going people are too religious. You know, that's always tough because you're the religion. You're not supposed to be like hey, you're too religious I would look at it a different way. Sure. I would look at it Not as you're too religious sure but you're going through something and it's manifesting in a religious way, right? We don't want to turn our back on you, but we're going to assign this usher right to Help out a little bit because you're going through something but but if you believe in the religion you can't believe because you're going through something but if
Starting point is 01:52:45 you believe in the religion you can't believe that people are going through something and there's the really you can't believe in both I think you can I well I mean I can believe in both but you can't believe honestly in either one if you believe in both I think you can that's in the book that you are talking about that you can't believe in both if you believe in I think I think you can that's in the book that you are talking about that you can't believe in both I think you believe in I think it is an entirely stable thing and I think sure but not if you believe in the book But the book doesn't say Brandon is a fucking prophet I mean, you know, but you can't say that other people are a prophet if you say that other people aren't a prophet You know, that's the problem with religious. I think that if you accept these prophecies that were way back,
Starting point is 01:53:30 it's a little easier to swallow. I mean, there is, it is always easier to swallow, you know, oh, Joe talked to God instead of Joseph Smith found some, you know, plates. Yeah, I get it. Or Brandon sees a glow cloud. It is tough to believe Brandon's glow cloud is what the way God wants to talk to us now Clash Rob's using AI to metal with DNA in order to get another plague going with those. Oh, man Whoa, I do like a God that keeps things updated though You know, you don't want a God that's stuck in the past You want a God that's still familiar with the new trends like ozempic, you know, you don't want God being like What about those old weight loss drugs?
Starting point is 01:54:06 No, no, no, no, no. You don't want God giving you a prophecy now about fen-fen. It's no good. So I do think that God's very conversational and chatty in the way that Brandon is describing him, much in the same way with Alex with the clocks and stuff. It is very similar to somebody's own internal monologue, one might even say. Very similar. This show's fucking stupid. Very dumb.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Everything is bad. I think the only reason that I jumped to this episode and turned it around in rapid order is because of Trump's appearance. And I think that it was satisfying in some way, the response, because it's exactly what you kind of think it would be. No big deal. He did a great job.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Yeah. Because it's on message. Yeah. It appears to be one of the craziest missteps that a politician could make. But if you're on board with Trump at this point, there's a really good reason to think that like this isn't, this doesn't matter. This is what you would expect him to say.
Starting point is 01:55:10 He's, he's doing what he's supposed to do. And that sucks. I mean, I understand why we feel like we have to go through the motions here, but the man was already president. Mm-hmm. You can't find out more about somebody after they've been president Except for like oh he murdered somebody while he was the president Like you've what you found out about Nixon wasn't like oh Nixon was secretly a worse person or a better person You knew Nixon was shit. You just found out the shittier things he did Yeah, they had some suspicions of the character of the person yeah and then you learned some details yeah yeah I don't know I enjoyed hearing a prophecy I guess what was that what's the second guy's deal that's the gay
Starting point is 01:55:57 that's the guy that I don't like the guy taking advantage of the janitor that guy is a preacher who is like I guess he lived in Australia And then he came to the US and he has a YouTube channel. I don't know they're all just YouTube guys. Oh boy. Yep anyway What a day to add to Alex's voice over real that is wild so we'll be back Do it solid fight calm yeah, we'll be back. I'm just the mysterious professor now, I guess. I can't be Neo anymore.
Starting point is 01:56:29 I could be DZX Clark. Well, we have a pretty solid Neo candidate. I'm the mysterious professor, man. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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