Knowledge Fight - #952: August 7, 2024

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex has responded to the news of Kamala Harris choosing Tim Walz as her running mate....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. I need, I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Stop it. Andy and, Andy and Kansas. Andy, Andy. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question. I'm a fan of your channel.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm a fan of your channel. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe Indeed we are Dan Jordan and Jordan. I have a quick question for you. What's up? What's about today, buddy?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Are you first my bright spot Dan is the US? Women's national football team. Okay playing the soccer out there at the Olympics Just showing everybody exactly how to do it doing the kitchen doing the thing with the stuff they go into different areas and then they'll ball oh man it's great stuff but in all serious I love it they've been playing great it's really enjoyable it's good soccer nice Sophia Smith Trinity Rodman Crystal Dunn like they these people are absolutely killing it. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It's awesome to watch. I'm really glad to hear that. Yeah. But I'm shocked by how little I care about the Olympics this year. That's interesting, because I'm shocked by how much I care about it. I'm the opposite direction.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I haven't kept up with just about anything except for hearing right wing outrage bullshit. In terms of the actual athleticism and the you know the celebration of competition and all this i don't know i don't feel like i've experienced a whole lot of it i so this this may have something to do with it but it is like uh so recently i've had to quit smoking uh all things uh and and So I've been waking up way too early and just like doing Olympic recaps I have been crying my eyes out at the many amazing stories of there's just no way to describe it Yeah, there's so much beauty going on. I'm so
Starting point is 00:02:38 Keenly aware that all of that is there all of it and I'm not experiencing about any of it hugs cross-border love There are no there are no lines. There's no nations. There's only the joy of competition and the human Shared life. It's beautiful and I'm happy for them and I wish I was engaging at all. Yeah So it's nice to hear about it from you. Yeah. Oh, it's great. It's great. And the basketball team just won today in a thriller. Fourth quarter comeback.
Starting point is 00:03:13 They were down to Serbia. They were down Serbia by like 17 points. Fourth quarter comeback, win it. Nice. Boom. Sweet. Hell yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Take that, Jokic. Right? The best player alive. Did Christian Leitner come back? Christian Leitner has been dead for 48 years. What? Yeah, yeah. He was a ghost even at the original Dream Team Olympics. Something so exciting about the Dream Team, when that happened.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Am I old? When that happened, am I old? That was just nothing like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was this is interesting because it is similar to the dream team. But when the dream team happened, they wiped the floor with everybody like the Monstars of old. And this team was do was doing that. But everybody else is really good at basketball. Right. And so everybody else is like making teams.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So like your Serbia you know Nikola Jokic is the best NBA player. He's the MVP three times et cetera and all that stuff. But the Serbian national team has also got some people with NBA talent and they play together all the time They're the Serbian national team, right? So you've got the US team which is LeBron Steph Curry Kevin Durant Like they are the dream team among dream teams, right? Joel Embiid all this up, but they don't actually play with each other and half of them and kind of hate each other So it's fascinating to watch them just be the other worldly talent and then sometimes like throw the ball at each other's faces.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It's amazing. I had, I found it difficult to focus while we were talking. Not because the sports is boring. I understand. I respect it. That's not why it's because you compared them to the mons stars. Yes. And I would like to remind you that the mon stars played one game and lost it
Starting point is 00:05:05 That is true fucking looney tunes, but but the monsters were the greatest collection of NBA talent at the time however, it was Bradley it was stolen from Listen it was 92 okay anyway It was 92. Okay. Anyway. I think they could afford Bugs. I think that was about it. Yeah, they got him.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yep, yep. What's your price, Bugs? Aha! I was recognized at the Aldi. Oh! I forgot the person's name and I feel really bad about it. That can't be. But now I have been recognized at the Aldi twice
Starting point is 00:05:47 I've been recognized in public maybe three times total in my life outside of like maybe at a live show or whatever Where it's appropriate yeah, yeah always at the Aldi I it's a it's a weird life. Yeah, weird life. Yeah, but it's fun. I'm great So Jordan today we have an episode to go over we're gonna be talking about August 7th 2024 all right that is Wednesday's episode Okay, and of course the big news that people were dealing with is the announcement of Tim Walls as Kamala's okay, so it's walls not Waltz? I believe so. I don't know. I don't know. I've not actually heard it
Starting point is 00:06:28 pronounced out loud because I only read things and any time an autoplay video comes on I like light my computer on fire. I generally am the same way that I mostly end up seeing things in print. And I think that I've heard it both ways. So I don't know actually. But I don't see a T there. I don't see a T either. So I'm going Waltz for now.
Starting point is 00:06:44 But you know, isn't Christoph Waltz doesn't his, he don't see a T there. I don't see a T either. I'm going Walls for now. But you know like isn't Christoph Waltz doesn't his he doesn't have a T and he's but he's like Austrian I don't know. I can neither confirm nor deny the T in Christoph's name. Okay but let's ask the real question all right let me see his birth certificate is he from Germany is he Austrian? Christoph Waltz or Tim Walz? Both. Okay. Um, I'm sure that will become a campaign issue. Honestly, I'm infuriated. I think it would be a good attack ad for the Republicans to be like, he's fucking German. Don't trust him. He's trying to sneak a T into his name invisibly.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah, I'd like that. So that's the big news. Is that now the Democratic ticket is pretty much established. Sure. And so now we we got a deal with that We just got to go. Let's see how the attacks go It's oh we'll check in on Alex's response But first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's great idea So first congratulations to Master Dave of the taekwondo bros
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm asking Dan to use the title so I don't have to love your hetero life mate. Thank you so much You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next Operation big boy was me coming out as a fat fruity trans man. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much Thank you next just finished listening to the latest episode where Alex declares He's rebranding to reset wars Can't wait for my shout out on Do Over Fight when this is definitely a thing six months from now. Thank you so much, you're now Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Thank you very much. Thank you. I'll Reset Wars. I'll Reset Wars. Ugh. Someday. Most important thing he's ever done. Ever done.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Next, Daniel and the Builderberg Biddle Bums. Thank you, Bindle Bums. Thank you so much, you're now Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Maroon the Cat says hello on behalf of all furry policy wonk. Like with a paw.
Starting point is 00:08:34 With a paw, yeah, yeah. I enjoyed that. Oh, what's this? Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home, give mine, and tell her you're brilliant.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So obviously Tim Wall's not a name that's loud Obviously, Tim Wall's not a name that's loud in the right-wing sphere prior to a couple days ago. Not somebody who Alex could have picked out of a lineup probably before the announcement. Not a villain.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Not somebody who we have built up a whole lot. I mean, ironically, considering how special all of these people think white people are, very difficult to know that he's different from any other white one. So there's that. And they have nothing. It's not like Klaus Schwab was announced as VP. They're like, oh, we got shit for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:39 We've been working on that. We've built this house already. But Alex has totally heard of them. Sure. Trump's weird. Teddy. Trump's weird. Teddy Vance is weird. When they are not just weirdos, the Democrats, they are evil. They're sick. cult. Now look, I know Tim Walls was and followed him back when he had the police stand down and let BLM and the
Starting point is 00:10:01 communists and the rest of them burn down half the state. And I knew he pushed really radical aggressive sterilization and castration of boys and sterilization of girls But since he was the official pick yesterday, I Did the deep dive on him? the new This guy is a creeper Zoid And let me just say this. If anybody could legally lawfully take a look on his computers,
Starting point is 00:10:30 I think you'd find some very interesting stuff. He just has that whole look to him. And he wants to... he does. He wants to target and brainwash children. Oh wow! You're implying he's a pedophile. Man, couldn't see this coming. Great. He you're implying he's a pedophile. Man. Couldn't see this coming. Great. It doesn't feel like his heart's in it.
Starting point is 00:10:49 No. It feels like there's a little bit of, I find it hard to believe when Alex says I knew all about this guy. Sure, sure. Oh I did a deep dive last night. Did you? I looked at some memes.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You could have said the same thing about anyone anyone any one of them. You didn't need a name. Yeah. Yeah, we have Okay, he's the governor of Minnesota. Yep. I have some memory of four years ago There being some fires there sure so cool. He's responsible for that. He did it. Why not? He did it Yeah, he burned down the police station and then became governor or was governor and burned down the police station he's supportive of trans rights can't believe it so I've got some talking points and bigoted shit I can throw around there yeah but he doesn't he looks like just a he looks like a Midwestern guy or does he oh see there we go you're right we got it. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:11:45 They need to prove that they're not racist. And there's only one way for the far right to do that. And that is to demand Tim Walz's birth certificate and claim that he is not from the United States and that he should not be allowed to be vice president. That is what they have to do. They're already directing that energy towards the other candidate. No, have to do it. They got it. They have to subvert everyone's expectations be like we'd love a black woman president, but Tim waltz is German Uh-uh, I think it would be interesting It's unlikely yeah, um so Tim waltz has a wife sure. I don't know if you know that theoretically he has a son named Gus Hmm. That's a great name for a kid
Starting point is 00:12:24 Not like Baron so anyway he has a wife and she loves the smell of cities burning down or she does tampon Tim she's now known by law putting tampons the boys bathrooms Okay, the guy is Wants to chop body parts off children But then we've got his kook wife saying she loved the smell of burning buildings and burning tires and open the windows up She'd smell it. I Mean it just goes on and on and on oh man She has loved it
Starting point is 00:13:07 Morton Joe from the fire. Tell me more of the burning cities, Tim. So his wife didn't say that she loves the smell of burning tires. She said in an interview that she didn't close all the windows in her home because quote, I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was happening back in 2020 when there were fires. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So she was metaphorically not trying to shut it out so much as she was trying to be like, I am accepting that this is a thing that's happening regardless of how I may feel about it. It's clear from the context of the interview that she was saying that she didn't close the windows because she recognized that what was happening was an important moment and she didn't want to isolate and insulate herself
Starting point is 00:13:48 from it and alex has turned this into she likes the smell of cities i mean the problem the problem is is if you're like i i guess that's an attack for somebody to be like oh look at this crazy conservative guy. He's got a gun and he just likes to see cities burn. But if you're like, oh, Tim Walz, the vice president's wife is like an anarchist who wants to see cities burn, I'm like, yeah, that sounds pretty fucking cool. That will appeal to a certain group.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And then I think the reality of she refuses to look away from something even if it's inconvenient or difficult. It's an even better story. Yeah. There's no way. Whatever Alex is doing is just, this is bad. Wrong, wrong move. It's not gonna work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 But good luck. Something else that's not gonna work is, so Trump put out a post on Truth Social. And Alex is even like, I don't know about this. Oh no. Trump's come out and says Biden will try to take back the nomination at the DNC after it was stolen by Kamala. I hear there's a big movement to bring back crooked Joe. Trump has a lot of credibility. He has a lot of sources. Roger Stone's popping back in today. I'll ask him about that. I wouldn't count that out as crazy as
Starting point is 00:15:03 it sounds. I'm not saying it's going to happen. gonna happen like I don't believe it will but they may certainly try Yeah, that's as close as you're gonna get to Alex being like this is shit That's the word. You know what of all the fit listen I've been lying you've been lying our past decade has been non-stop lies Yeah, and we're just the best at it. That is a failure, sir. That is a failure. So do you want to hear the Trump potion? Hell yes. All right. Quote, what are the chances that crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in
Starting point is 00:15:33 the history of the United States, whose presidency was unconstitutionally stolen from him by Kamabla, Barack Hussein Obama, crazy Nancy Pelosi, shifty Adam Schiff, crying Chuck Schumer and others on the lunatic left crashes the Democratic National Convention and tries to take back the nomination beginning with challenging me to another debate. He feels like he made a historically tragic mistake by handing over the US presidency a coup to the people in the world he hates the most and he wants it back now. Three exclamation points Wow, yeah, I Was a lot I I saw that someone sent me that post and I thought it was fake
Starting point is 00:16:12 I thought for sure it was fake it is it does seem hard to believe that You know, that's that's just that's just a former president for you right there. He's Fantasy he's writing a former president for you right there. He's fantasy. He's writing a fantasy story about how Biden wants the presidency back and he's gonna fight at the convention and challenge him to another debate. What is going on? I don't know. I don't know. There's a big movement to bring Biden back. I'm hearing it from all over the place. I'm hearing tons of people say like, oh my God, oh, whenever he was the candidate and we were forced against our own instincts and love
Starting point is 00:16:45 to defend him because fucking god damn it we had to. You forced us to defend him you motherfuckers and now you think we're gonna ask for him back? Hell no! This newfound enthusiasm and boost in the polls is so intolerable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no, no, no. No, it was actually really fun for us to say that
Starting point is 00:17:05 this dead man should be the next president. Yeah, that was great. DNC rolls around glass breaks. Oh my God. Oh God. Biden's got the chair. Oh my God. Oh, that would be the best. Even Alex fucking knows this is dumb. No, the whole world would like willingly open a trap door and Joe Biden would fall down and be like, we'll just pretend that never happened. So the UN has a plan to steal the US election. And Alex is going to talk about that. Okay. All right. It is now official. The UN says they are set to declare monkeypox and bird flu a global emergency. And from New York City, Los Angeles, California, they're putting up billboards and running TV ads saying time to wear the mask again, time to take all your shots.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Uh, the Biden controlled FDA that's literally run by big pharma has gotten emergency authorization, uh, for the bird flu, mRNA poison that does absolutely nothing to protect you obviously. It's total insanity. So it's official with just 90 days left the most important election in world history or technically 89 days we'll put on screen. They are going to try to roll out a global freakout pandemic yet again. We've done these stories already. This is just dull. There was a global emergency about monkeypox declared by the world health organization in 2022, which was handled.
Starting point is 00:18:33 There is a new situation with the illness where a strain is spreading mostly in Congo, but has been seen in nine other African countries. So the world health organization is debating whether or not it constitutes a global emergency. As for the strain of bird flu is it was identified in Europe in 2020 and has been spreading since, completely fucking up animal populations. According to the UN, it's adapted in ways that allow it to infect 485 different bird species as well as 48 mammals, and it's putting some species at risk of extinction. Even if it never becomes a strain that can transmit easily human to human, this is all a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Biodiversity and delicate ecological systems are already massively strained by the virus and the consequences that we're gonna see from this, we have no idea, really. Alex can pretend that all of this is just an elaborate plot to make sure Trump doesn't get elected this year, but it's important to understand how fucking stupid this is. This is just an elaborate plot to make sure Trump doesn't get elected this year But it's important to understand how fucking stupid this is This is just really dumb. Yeah, you know, here's the other thing That it's like it the way they do the way that they talk about stuff is it keeps you from remembering how things actually work but it's like We just had a pandemic. Mm-hmm. All of the people who were
Starting point is 00:19:42 We just had a pandemic. All of the people who were fucking put through the wringer are still working. They're still there. Now they're just very experienced at this. I'm far more confident now than I was four years ago. In 20 years, if we haven't had a pandemic for 20 years, do you know what I mean? Then I'm like, a pandemic around a corner, nobody's ready for this shit. Nobody knows what could happen. These people are practiced. Yeah. I think, and not to say that everyone was asleep at the wheel, but definitely in 2020, there was not like a feeling of knowing what could happen. And I think that we've been disabused
Starting point is 00:20:20 with those notions of like, this is impossible, which we might forget over time. Oh, that's the way that's what I'm saying. You know that that whole like, oh, they sold us on two week lockdown and you're like, I believe I believe now we'd be like, we'll see in six months assholes you figure this shit out. Or three, let's make it three weeks. How about you get your shit together. So Alex has a take here about Peter Hotez. He's a scientist that Alex doesn't like.
Starting point is 00:20:50 He's, I don't know, I guess he's a big globalist. So I'm going to be getting to that. And I'm glad it's finally getting some traction. I covered this Saturday and Sunday. I thought it was a big deal. And sure, the video's got a few million views. But they should have gotten 100 million. Peter Hotez is officially a WHO CDC mouthpiece.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And he came out and said, we need UN troops and NATO in America during the next lockdown. Now, we've always told you that's coming. That's what the UN treaty is about. It's what all the COVID camps are about all over the world. And we have other we have the head of global crises response, Dr. Ryan, to the UN saying the same thing years ago. But they're really serious about this. Not Alex Jones 30 years ago, saying they've got plans to put UN troops in America. And people didn't think that would ever happen. I was going over the State Department documents from 1962, State Department memorandum, and several other documents. OOPS, Alex forgot the names of these documents. All one and others.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah, Peter O'Tez was saying that these, the problems that you deal with in terms of epidemiological issues, pandemics and stuff, are far broader than scientific issues and scientific solutions aren't going to be enough to address them in the future. He's making that point and Alex is saying he's going to bring in you and troops, whatever. Yeah, no, in a vacuum in a laboratory I can do all kinds of stuff, but then out there, Alex Jones is going to say shit. Yeah. And I found this to be really interesting because for the last couple months at least, I've been noticing Alex being like, do you really think that UN troops and blue helmets
Starting point is 00:22:35 are going to come in? No. And he's been very against that, but now he's saying that Peter Hotez is saying that they're going to bring in UN troops. So I don't know where to feel about this because he's been undermining that idea in the recent past, but now I'm supposed to be afraid of it again. I think, and maybe I'm just wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Maybe I'm just wrong, but I think now that we are where we are, I think the idea of like foreign troops made more sense in the JBS lore and then going up into the 90s Because you will you still only saw the world through a very fairly small screen, you know There are so many people and now we're so aware of how many people there are Can you imagine how many UN troops would actually be necessary to like do anything to like influence you? necessary to like do anything to like influence you to like a buy to buy something different a billion right or one one really good one that's what i'm saying it would have to be something it's a magical question there's no a number that could yeah achieve anything
Starting point is 00:23:40 probably not yeah um and i don't think that any number of UN troops could make Alex be like, vaccines are great. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know why people would do it. Yeah. So Alex has a little bit of a take on COVID and how it caused some weirdness. Oh, did it? Yeah. And here's the deal. Yes, COVID was manmade. Yes, it spread quickly. Yes, it was novel. Yes, they would block normal treatment for it. So you had some death, but they made it novel so that when virologists looked at under electron microscope, they would see a manufactured virus and had five viruses put together. We knew that back in February of 2020. Of course, it all came out to be documented and accurate.
Starting point is 00:24:23 That was meant to scare people because it was so obviously man-made, but then it was the shots that were Innumerably worse than the actual so-called Pathogen that's supposedly causing the disease Now because of all the injections they gave people while they were sick any virologist will tell you up until modern last few years That causes insane mutations in the regular viruses and gives rise to all these new horrible viruses. And so there is all sorts of weird illness going on, all sorts of weird death going on. You have record levels of really bad colds and flus this summer.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I know a lot of people have been very, very sick, especially those that aren't, you know, taking the right supplements and things. And so there's a lot of weirdness going on. You got covered again. They could very easily at any time release some really bad viruses. They've got cooked up on the shelf. It's been very obvious.
Starting point is 00:25:18 We're going back, what, six months ago. Bird flu hasn't jumped into humans yet, but it probably will. We need to kill all these chickens and kill all these cows all over the world, including the US. And then a few months ago, oh, it's jumped into humans yet, but it probably will. We need to kill all these chickens and kill all these cows all over the world, including the U S and then a few months ago, oh, it's jumped into humans. Well, actually it didn't. And then, well, now it is jumping in and now we've done emergency
Starting point is 00:25:33 authorization for this shot. Building it up right to the election. So all of Alex's stuff about COVID is idiotic and we've talked about it in the past, so I'm not going to relitigate it here all again. What's important here is that with the bird flu situation there have been 14 human cases in the United States since 2022 all thankfully isolated and related to exposure to either poultry or dairy cows. There have not been cases of localized transmission from person to person which would be a real problem. That would be, that's a, that's a bad scenario.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the opening scene of outbreak. In the United States, the CDC puts the public health risk of the virus at low, but it's something that needs to be relatively closely monitored because it could go bad. And if it does go bad, it could be really bad. Maybe not outbreak bad, but bad. Sure, sure. When Alex says they say it can infect humans, but then they say it can't, then it can, he is referring to his own miscoverage of the case back in April. There is one case that he completely whiffed on all the details and he has fucked up his
Starting point is 00:26:37 own memory of it. A 59 year old man in Mexico died in the hospital and was found to have a confirmed case of H5N2 avian flu. It was initially reported that it was possible that this was the cause of death, but ultimately doctors reviewed the case closer and found that he likely died more as a result of other conditions that he had and he just incidentally also had this avian flu. However, what was special about this case wasn't that he had the virus or that he died, it was that there was no direct exposure that he had the virus or that he died.
Starting point is 00:27:05 It was that there was no direct exposure to poultry or livestock in this man's history. His story wasn't of a particular media interest because he died. It was because it was possible that he represented the first case of human to human transmission. Ultimately, they traced his contacts and found that no one around him was sick. So it remains unclear how he ended up getting infected. He is a bird. He might be a bird, but there's no evidence that it was from a person or that he gave it to another person, which is good news. Right. But Alex has forgotten that and has decided that the media has told a hundred different stories about this because he fails to understand the details. So he's stupid.
Starting point is 00:27:45 details. So he's stupid. Yeah, I mean, when he started listing all of the things that I'm supposed to assume, I feel comfortable because I don't assume any of that is true. But then there was a part of me that's like, wait a second, if I did believe some of this, am I supposed to be assumed? Was I already supposed to have assumed that these things were true? Like what? Because I feel like some of them, I don't like, yes, COVID was know, or yes, it was five viruses. I was like, yes, it was made to look like it was made to look at it. Whoa, it was intentionally done. So people out. No, no, no, no, no, no, I assumed. No, I knew I was supposed to assume it was fake. I didn't know I was supposed to assume that it was fake that it was fake. Yeah, it was, it's real It was what that's that lesser magic. I don't understand Recon you out by how fake everything is that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:28:30 Like am I supposed to have already known to be assuming these things I assume Yeah, no, I think probably not. Okay. I think you're supposed to know the beginning parts And then once you get bored you're supposed to get your mind blown by the second area. And then just let it go and then just ride along. Yeah, whenever you need a new, like a boost of adrenaline you're like, wait, it was actually, it was so fake because they're trying to freak us out by how fake it was. Right. We were supposed to see through that. Okay, so he's like pumping up a tire.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Whenever you need the conspiracy to get a little bit harder gotcha. That's what you all right all right up the dose Okay, so Alex talks about how You shouldn't be offensively violent, but also what if their offense and defense are the same thing interesting What do we do about their open plans for worldwide martial law and force injections? Because I don't believe we should ever offensively go after any of these people. I was listening to Glenn Beck this morning, driving into work, and he was saying,
Starting point is 00:29:30 look, he doesn't think God will be on our side if we offensively ever do something. And I agree with that, but- End of statement then? Because God- What is defense when you're being hit with bio weapons? The borders are wide open, your government is at war with you, and everything they do is to undermine the country and they're targeting our children. you're being hit with bio weapons. The borders are wide open. Your government is at war with you.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And everything they do is to undermine the country and they're targeting our children. I'm not saying or even hinting go out and be violent because they would really play off of that. And that's what they want. Because we're winning hearts and minds so fast they can see that no matter what they do, they're out of power very soon, not just here, but around the world. So they want to get the confrontation going. All I'm saying is they do a cyber outage, they release some deadly virus, they got stuff locked down, the food supplies break down, you got riots and burning crap in the streets. You better be ready to protect yourselves.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And then to the people in the government and the bureaucrats that they are intending to send out to people's houses to drag them off to these emergency pandemic centers. Look, I don't have any bloodlust and I don't my listeners don't either. We don't want to fight with you, but let me just advise the FBI and the local police and the federal marshals and the military and everybody. I don't think you even need me to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Do you think total collapse and martial law and war on the streets and trying to take people to emergency centers is a very healthy? Job for you. No, probably not give them mixed messages. Yeah little little bit of a mixed mixed vibe Yeah, here's what I'm thinking. All right, let me ask you a question. Mm-hmm If if God is like, hey, if you do this, I'm never going to like you. And you're like, I think I'm still going to do it. Right? Is there any possibility that the God of the universe after you do it is like, that was a test. You had to disagree with me in order to do you know what I'm saying? That's interesting. I don't know. That'd be tricky. And that's unfair. That's cheating. It would be definitely unfair.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I also don't imagine a scenario where the God of the universe tells you, you know, do this thing. Sure. And then you're like, I'm not going to do it, but it's really important to me what you say. Right. You know, I can't imagine trying to sort of thread that needle. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very pious, but I'm also going to directly not do the thing. I like what you're saying, buddy, and I love telling people all about you.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Not for me, but you're great. Here's how we're gonna make that work. I'm gonna say that God will be against us if we're offensively violent. Right. But if I go shoot, some globalist sure with they hit us with a bioweapon. It's defensive That doesn't sound true. God won't be against me that he really feel like God is actually one of those guys Who's so hardcore on like little details? He's he's Persuadable I people think I'm a real black and white kind of kind of guy but I mean God is kind of specifically the black and white. He's the alpha and omega I mean he's the he's like the definition of those things. Nah. Oh okay.
Starting point is 00:32:34 God's full of nuance. Never mind. So the left they're the ones are gonna kick off a civil war. Obviously. And Alex and his friends are gonna be the good folks. Sounds right. And their main plan is to get a civil war. Obviously Alex and his friends are going to be the good folks. Sounds right. And their main plan is to get a civil war going in this country. And they've said that. So they're the clear and present danger. They're the bad guys publicly plotting all this crap. They said before they stole the election four years ago in the New York Times at a big war
Starting point is 00:32:59 game with John Podesta. They said, we're not going to accept him. We're going to have our own electors. We're going to go have our own thing in Colorado, and we're going to put Joe Biden in. That's everything they accused Trump of, they were actually doing. And so they're going to do that again,
Starting point is 00:33:14 except they're going to activate Black Lives Matter and the Antifa and their Islamic sleeper cells that you know are outlawed with the left. That's why Biden's been so standoffish about Iran. And they're going to blow this country up. And at that point, I'm a talk show host that's way ahead of the curve. I'm here. We'll be taken off the air, guaranteed. And I'm just going to take care of my family.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm going to say, hey, folks, it's your ball game now. And I say that because I want it to be clear where I stand. They take me off the air, they'll take everybody else off the air with the internet kill switch. Only government stuff will be available in their mouthpieces. And then what will they do? They'll blow up a federal building and say that, oh, the guy did it because he's a Trump supporter and Alex Jones supporter. That is not true.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And none of my supporters ever do something like that. But that's the real issue here is once they cut the communications, then they can stage events and blame it on the good guys to try to get public opinion on their side. That's why I've got to say all this now. So people remember this and see this and can underground show this clip so that people know, cause I'm already having to war game the worst case scenarios here. Now we've got a very good chance of getting Trump in. The globalists are badly coordinated.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Everything they're doing is failing. More and more of their people in government corporations know what's going on or leaking information and not following orders. Bare minimum, just don't follow orders to attack the American people. And then the American people, just bare minimum, try to stay out of the way during a civil war, shooting random police even if they're coming to do bad things, you know, just try to stay out of their way to you try to, you know, because it's it's it's it's it's a disaster. This whole thing is a damn disaster. It sounds like a disaster. Um, I do think that there's some truth to what Alex
Starting point is 00:34:58 is saying and that like, yeah, if I get taken off the air, it's your ballgame because I can't sell pills in the yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no drop shipping once. This is gone. Dr. Jones naturals Isn't gonna help me out. Yeah, so I'll be gone at that point Yeah, which is the what a winter soldier would do. I mean I would say that if Of all the things that we've consistently heard Alex Jones fans say about him that he is a leader of men is pretty high up There is somebody to be followed somebody who can point the way well Alex says that his fans says that about say that about him. I'm not his in his belief system He is the least I know game. I took this beer. Yeah. Yeah all of that stuff
Starting point is 00:35:44 I don't think that I want my leader to be like, hey man, I guess just try and stay out of the way maybe. Shit's gonna get wild out there. Yeah, it's a disaster. See ya! It's a disaster. What, that's your advice? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Jesus Christ. Good luck, smoke him if you got him. Yeah, right? I mean, that would be advice that is better than like, hey, try and stay out of the, what does stay out of the way even mean? I'm not sure. Also, aren't I in a moral fight to the death with evil?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Shouldn't I be in the way? You're an NPC in the good and evil battle. What? Yeah, you're not a factor in it. Why am I listening to you then? Okay, fair enough. So Alex is saying that the establishment or the left is going to try and frame some potential terrorist as a fan of his because he has a good reason to worry that someone who does end up carrying out
Starting point is 00:36:28 something like blowing up a federal building might end up being one of his fans and it's easier to pretend that this stuff is fake news than it is to just deal with reality. We don't cover this sort of thing much because it's often kind of just in the background but there was a case this week that I wanted to mention. A woman named Julie Sopizio was arrested on Monday after a cop was murdered in her home. It's believed that what happened is that she and her husband Michael were convinced that their neighbors were satanic pedophiles, so she was going to lure them into her house where her husband would then kill them.
Starting point is 00:36:58 The police ended up responding to calls about her making a scene, so an officer ended up entering the home instead of one of the neighbors and was murdered in an ambush by the husband. This resulted in a standoff and before the police could get them to come out, Michael had shot himself in the head as well as his two daughters. They also had shot themselves in the head aged 22 and 23. In search of their home, one of the things that the police noted finding was a bunch of Infowars pliers. Yeah. So, you know, I don't I don't think that there's like, it's just a tragedy. It's not there's not any kind of like, gotcha or anything in this. But this is the kind of thing that happens. And then Alex pretends is fake. You know, like, they're just
Starting point is 00:37:39 trying to smear me by associating me with this tragedy. And that's just really not fair. Yeah. That's a real bummer. Yep. Yeah. It's just a fucking, I don't know. So Alex gets back to trying to demonize Tim Walls, who he definitely knows a lot about
Starting point is 00:37:59 and is totally hurt about. Sure, he talks about him. Absolutely. This Tim Walls character, we know he had the police stand down for four days. They could burn half the state We know he said I love socialism and socialism is good. It was really just communism We know his wife said she loved him burning down the city to love the smell of burning tires Mm-hmm. What a demon We know we got his mug shots and all the weirdness involved with him
Starting point is 00:38:23 We'll do the dive Not a deep dive a deep dive would take five hours this guy. I've done the deep dive this guy I mean for hours his obsession with cutting children's testicles off little girls breast off is Next level so walls has been an open supporter of trans rights so naturally this will be a large part of Alex's attack on him It's predictable, but also I don't think that it's going to be super effective. The right-wing talking points around trans issues are grotesque cartoons that play really well for the online social media shit, but I don't think that yelling about walls wanting to chop off genitals, I don't know if that's going to be super effective for roping in undecided voters. I don't think this is a
Starting point is 00:39:02 winning strategy. As for the other stuff in there, half of Minnesota didn't burn down in 2020. Walt's wife didn't say that she loved the smell of burning tires. And that mugshot is from a DUI he got 30 years ago. You remember a little while back, certainly less than 30 years ago, when Alex got arrested for a DUI and then pretended he was going to go on a crusade against DUIs. So there's bullshit arrests. I do remember that. And others trying to arrest innocent people and they've had one drink. Seems like he's not feeling that same kind of spirit right now.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I guess he forgot about that campaign he was gonna go on. Odd. And now he's got a mug shot of walls. He dares drink and drive. Oh man. I mean, you know, it sucks. It sucks for me personally because I feel a call. I feel a call I've been a very
Starting point is 00:39:51 Talented bully and a mean person for most of my life and I feel like the right is floundering They have no idea what to do. They have been so they've dominated the game for so long that it's very unexpected that they're floundering. The talent level was unnecessary. The bullying was just simply you walk out. The left is dodo's. They just walk up and they say, hi, I love you, and then you hit them in the head. Terrible. Now this is happening and they don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And I mean, I feel like I should be getting a lot of calls and I'm just not. I mean, obviously you don't want to give out free advice. No that's why I'm not doing it. That's why I'm not giving out free advice. You have to pay if you want to get the good shit. So you're just offering your services as a bully consultant. Blind consultancies are available and if you need to be mean, buddy, I got your skills. See this is an interesting ploy because I imagine someone trying to employ you in this
Starting point is 00:40:48 way and then you're giving them really bad advice for the bullying backfires which is sort of bullying them. If you're trying to employ me to bully people I'm going to bully you. I don't understand how you don't understand that. And that is exactly what you should be paying for anyway, because Lesson Learned is an 80s movie. So get some calls. Alex, take some calls. And here's a guy who has some thoughts about violence. Okay. Let's talk to Hammer in Florida on Civil War. Go ahead. Hey Alex. Thanks for taking my call. I just want to say, you know, this reminds me of that movie 300, and there's a couple
Starting point is 00:41:26 of lessons in that movie that I think most people don't really recognize at first. You need more than 300? And the first lesson that I learned from that movie, and that whole story, is that when you're faced with an enemy that's determined to either kill or enslave you, being peaceful is really just surrender. And so, you know, I don't really see how we can avoid this because we're, regardless of whether or not we do anything offensive, they're just gonna stage something,
Starting point is 00:41:58 blame it on us anyway, and we're in the same predicament. So, yeah, that's my two cents. I don't really see it. Well, sure. I mean, look, look, yeah, that's that's that's my two cents. I don't really Well, sure. I mean, I'm not calling for anything against Bill Gates or anybody. I'm just saying the way they pre programmed it is you fight the government by going out and fighting the military. No, in a real civil war, if we go to that, that they start, people will go after Fauci Bill Gates, the Globals, which I'm not saying do. I'm just saying if they want to start one
Starting point is 00:42:30 We should understand that you know, it's it's it's it's the people that did this that need to need to be dealt with Yeah, so I guess Alex is just I mean he just wants you to be targeted Yeah, don't fight the military go kill Bill Gates I mean, it's all that he seems to be saying to because the caller's point is that It's all that he seems to be saying. Because the caller's point is that if your enemy is going to kill or enslave you, which he believes is true of the Globeless, then not fighting back offensively is surrender. So the only thing you can do really in those circumstances is write back preemptively. If you wait too long your ability to fight will be taken away right now i'm going to throw this out at you all right now if you're
Starting point is 00:43:10 the ultimate evil or enemy or whatever it is uh with a competence level that i would assume is base there's a base level competency to ruling the world i would assume is necessary something of this i would have thought i would have thought that up until now. Yeah. But I feel like if you study like the history of conflict between people, then you know that like wars and the stuff, the goal isn't to kill or enslave people. It's usually about stuff. It's usually about getting stuff, you know, like, so it's only in the stories that it's all about killing or
Starting point is 00:43:44 enslaving people. And so in real life you should think more about like, oh, how do we deal with all the stuff? Like resources. You'd think. That would make the most sense. Instead of assuming that your enemy who lives next door to you is the ultimate evil who's only interested in killing or enslaving you. But that's the thing is like this is all about the stories. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's just the stories in the moment as opposed to mythologizing the past. Right. That's what Alex is engaged in. Ridiculous. It's all the stories. Ridiculous. So we get another caller who thinks that it's too late to not be violent. Wow. Jim in North Carolina on unlawful orders on Americans. Go ahead. Yeah. Hi Alex. I just, you know, a little bone pick with you here. I want to ask you a. Qualify this force if you could. You keep saying legal and lawful all the time. Legal and lawful, legal and lawful. Is the Declaration of Independence legal and lawful? Oh, there is a right to revolt in the Declaration of Independence. It doesn't give us the right. It just points it out. You've got places like New Hampshire that have right to revolt in their Constitution. And'm not saying people don't have a right to do everything's right at this point because there's such a criminal government I'm saying they want violence because they're gonna pre-program. They're gonna have violence either way Alex. They're coming either way See, that's the point. They're coming either way and you freaking know that they're coming. Let me just stop you cuz hey Hey, you're the big man. So you're you. So you're the general. What do we do?
Starting point is 00:45:05 Who do we go kill today? Because I'm a wimp. I'm just up here under total globalist attack, putting my whole family and life on the line, trying to expose the enemy, trying to stop it, having huge effects here. And then you call in and say, hey, Jones, you're being a wimp. It's time for violence.
Starting point is 00:45:19 It's in the Declaration of Independence. So you're going to go out and kill some people today? Who are you going to kill? of independence. So what? Okay. So you're going to go out and kill some people today. Who are you going to kill? Oh, crickets right there. Yeah. He's gone. He hung up. I didn't hang up on him. I would bet just about anything that they hung up on him. Oh yeah. 100%. One million. Alex in such a trap. One million billion. Not get out of there is no way. Like Alex had tried the best that he could with dancing and were like, oh who are we going to kill? Who are we going to kill? Boo boo boo. You know, you just told me. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:50 you said Bill Gates and all the globalists and all that. They're coming either way Alex, you know that. Do you know how I know that? Because you told me. Yeah. I have just basically. I'm repeating to you. Right. Yeah. You always say legal and lawful. Yep. Was the American Revolution legal and lawful? Uh-oh. Whoops. You know, we both know, that you have been hiding behind legal and lawful. Yeah. Because we've all kind of been hiding behind all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:15 What this caller essentially did is just say, cut the shit. Now it's time to fucking put on your big boy pants, if you will. And Alex is like, no, this was never real. This was none of it. And I don't think that he could talk his way through that. And so I think that it is necessary that you hang up on this call. I think it's almost a responsible move on the part of the producers if they did that. Sure. Because there's only the other option. There's only the, yes, finally you have reached the realization point that if all of my words mean all that they do,
Starting point is 00:46:47 we are at a yes or no, there's no argument scenario. We're at a do or die scenario, right? And we have been literally forever and always will be. And now you're just fucking fed up with pretending that it's still on the way, right? So you either have to say like, hey, it's actually not that bad. It's actually, honestly. It would be funny if that was Alex's response. Honestly, it's actually not that bad. It's actually, honestly.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It would be funny if that was Alex's response. Honestly, it's really not that bad. I've been making all this stuff up about the Dabble. I mean, really, Texas used to be higher. Can you believe that? We used to be a lot happier and in Texas we're higher. I don't even understand it. It's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Nah. So we get another caller, cause Alex moves along. And he has a lot of feelings about this caller who? Got hung up on and that does keep going throughout the show where he's like that fucking guy thinks he's so tough Yeah, so there's a little bit of that, but this caller. I like what he's bringing to the table Cory and Missouri you're on the air go ahead Hey, what's going on? Can you hear me? Let me be clear. I don't actually like what he's
Starting point is 00:47:46 before what he's brought to the table is brought. Let's be very specific about the word like he introduces the idea of freaking out the demons. And I kind of like that. But the rest of this is good live show, sir. Go ahead. You want to comment? Yeah. So I'm glad you actually came in at this time. So yeah, we need to identify Exactly in our state who is causing these issues. So there's a scripture that Proverbs 21 12 it says the righteous one Takes note of the house of the wicked right brings the wicked to ruin
Starting point is 00:48:22 So we need to take note of the house of the wicked. The wicked lie and wait, it says, to lay ambush to the righteous. Solomon, you're crazy. See how they can attack us and overthrow us. We need to take note of who exactly wants this Civil War, who is provoking it. Literally, guys,, grab a piece of paper and a pen and take notes. The Bible says take notes. And if we can turn our spiritual attention, our intention towards those in charge of this right now, turn our spiritual eyes to them, we can all unite
Starting point is 00:48:58 and just look at them in the spirit. The Bible says walk in the spirit. Look at them, and we have to freak the devil out. We have to realize these are demons in these people taunting us. Hell. Yeah, we have to realize that the Bible says we have authority Over all the powers of the devil nothing shall by any means hurt us absolutely So let me ask you this and you can elaborate. What do you make of that caller? Maybe he's a Calling in a call for violence or I'm not a tough guy. But then when I told him, okay, what do we do?
Starting point is 00:49:27 He didn't wanna talk, did he? Yeah, I think he's not realizing this is a spiritual thing. First, you gotta stop it spiritually, or else, yeah, the devil loves men to get so mad at men that they fight each other and kill each other and step back and laugh. Yeah, don't worry, Alex, you're still a big boy.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Oh my God. You're still cool, it's all good. Yes. So I just love the premise of freaking out the devil. I love it look at him any a freak I'm not freaking out these demons one the Bible says you got the power So just use it turn the turn your spiritual attention on a demon and freak him out Yeah, freak him the fuck out John Constantine that shit that seems Generally harmless Constantine that shit that seems generally harmless
Starting point is 00:50:10 Harmless then making lists of people who are problems in your area. That's a that's a bad Yeah, that's a bad road to go down. Yeah Yeah, this guy does end up also suggesting that you find people who are annoying on Twitter and then Send them like I know you're a demon. I know what you're up to. I like that. This is where it goes off track, because then you're getting into harrass-y territory. Yeah, yeah, that's no good. And he wants you to send all these people on Twitter
Starting point is 00:50:32 that Bible verse, Proverbs 2112. And I say don't do that. Don't do that. Send them a link to Rush's great album, 2112. Their concept album. What was the Mountain Goats album? Alex does that great thing that really annoying and shitty people do, which is that you're like, you've been to a party, like you're in a group of people and this one person that
Starting point is 00:51:00 said their thing and everybody knows the person's deal, everybody knows what's up, everybody engaged with it and everybody's stoked to have moved on. And now we're engaging in our adult conversation to have fun. And everything's going on fine. And then that person says something again and everybody knows like the moment their voice opens up, you're like, you're starting that first conversation again. Right. They say something that connects to it. You were talking about it. And then it just weaves right back. No, you son of a, I knew it, yeah. Yep. I want to talk about how my feelings
Starting point is 00:51:28 were hurt by that caller who- We did that. He thinks he's more of a man than me. No, you are no longer welcome. Reassure me, caller who wants to freak out demons. Great. Yikes. Super cool.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah. So Roger Stone is gonna come on. Sure. And I find this unpalatable so they're talking a bit about Tim Walls and I just I find this to be on it you could just We're done. Okay. I mean this guy is a train wreck the articles on infowars.com with a full interview Tim Walls No right to free speech of government deems misinformation or hate speech. So if they define it, just like the EU, you don't have it, here's the club. There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around
Starting point is 00:52:12 our democracy. I think we need to push back on this. There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy. I think we need to push back on this. There's no guarantee. So this guy, this guy is incredible. You were the first to predict he would be the guy three weeks ago. So when I say I've had enough, it's like Roger has been predicting for years that Michelle Obama was going to be the Democratic nominee. Now he gets some kind of profit points for calling Tim Walz's Harris's VP choice. Like what about the part where he was been wrong for years? Are we supposed to just forget about that? Because it's, you know, it would hurt my ability to be distracted by shiny keys that we're putting up today.
Starting point is 00:52:54 This is stupid. I find it unacceptable. Roger has been doing this for years. He has a bit and they're just pretending that that bit is not really invalidated by this being the official Democratic ticket. Yeah, I would say this. I think North Korean ballots is the end. That was the apotheosis. That was a high point for Roger. That was when it was, it never is going to reach that again. And it's just, it's just clear.
Starting point is 00:53:23 That was where he had like Steve Pacenonics soul and you know for a minute He had the spirit. Yeah, he had the spirit in him and that it's just never coming back I think that he's too worldly You know like he has too much of an actual career that is intersected with important things through history And he's cynical yeah And I think that doesn't allow him to shoot for the stars in a way that like the ballots on the boat was. That was a representation of like, you're living the dream. Yeah, there is a certain amount of like, he doesn't know that he's free. Yeah. Because he, because there's that
Starting point is 00:53:58 that path of thinking that you can get trapped in that you're not trapped in, but because you don't even know you're trapped in it. Like he doesn't actually think he's still gonna have like a consulting job. He's not going to be in the White House. He doesn't think that stuff, but he's also not capable of being the type of free that allows you to be like, actually Tim Walz is also from North Korea.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And you know, like he doesn't have that kind of level of like, I am free. Right. Yeah. The, I know the first person who had kovat very well because it's me Yeah, energy that is for the taking Roger wants it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know you gotta have it Yeah So you might notice that Alex uses that very neatly edited very short clip of walls And if you see something like that, especially when it keeps repeating, you should ask yourself if there's a larger context that's being ignored in order to send a fraudulent message.
Starting point is 00:54:49 No surprise, in this case there is. Walls was specifically talking about people spreading misinformation about voting as a voter intimidation tactic and how that's not protected free speech. For instance, he's talking about people spreading the idea that mail-in ballots are illegal or intimidation of people at the physical polling places. It's already illegal to do stuff like this. Like Jacob Wall famously got a fine of about $5 million against him for his robocall scheme in the 2020 election where he attempted to target non-white voters and scare them out of using mail-in ballots. All Walls is saying here is that we need to
Starting point is 00:55:23 take this stuff more seriously, and it is not protected speech to try and disrupt an election with speech. If you get fined for trying to send the message intentionally of the wrong voting day, trying to mislead people about who is eligible to vote, that kind of stuff is against the law. Yeah. It actually almost kind of confused me that they didn't edit the clip shorter. Like I feel like you, what you do is you just have the, you don't have a guaranteed free speech and then just repeat that because I don't feel like that the rest of it was far off from what Alex might've said. You're like, no, you don't have a guaranteed free speech.
Starting point is 00:56:01 The FBI shouldn't be able to lie to your faces. Mis't free you know that kind of thing I think if you make the clip any shorter it's too it's too obvious that your guys are just lying yeah but but the context that remains in the part that he played is close enough to what Alex is saying it is that like you can pass it off yeah but any further if you had any more of the context of what he was saying it would just fall apart yeah and Alex tries to pull this trick twice twice Roger before we get further if you had any more of the context of what he was saying, it would just fall apart. And Alex tries to pull this trick twice. Twice. Roger, before we get your take on this, here's the raw clip. We played with Mr. Rogers music earlier, but I'm gonna play it raw. Here he is saying to be a good neighbor is to be socialist. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Don't ever shy away from our progressive values. One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness. Just do the damn. Don't ever shy away from our progressive values. One person socialism is another person's neighborliness. Just do the damn work. Don't ever shy away from our progressive values. One person socialism is another person's neighborliness. Just do the damn work. Don't ever shy away from our progressive values. That's good. And we have a new clip of him just a few years ago saying he was in combat in Iraq. He was never there. He resigned his commission. So the clip that Alex plays doesn't say that he was in combat, right? They're trying to attack his military.
Starting point is 00:57:07 He tried to do a swift boat thing and it's pretty shitty. But you might notice again that Alex is playing a very short, out of context clip to characterize walls here. This was something that he said on the white dudes for Kamala Harris fundraising call. And it's actually kind of poking fun at people who just call everything socialism. They probably are in favor of a particular policy like social security, but they're taught to respond negatively to the word socialism, when in reality, it's just being a good neighbor.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Children should eat, right? Socialism! Right! No, you actually, you do want children to eat. He's lampooning that in what he's saying. One person's socialism is another person's being neighborly. The larger context of what he's saying was encouraging people to get out and knock on doors to talk to undecided voters and voters in red areas because they aren't bad people.
Starting point is 00:57:54 They aren't all Trump. They're people who have real concerns and real needs, many of which are better served by left-leaning policies, and it might be possible to reach them. That's the message that has been sliced down into this scare quote. It's just ridiculous. It's a very sad game they're trying to pull. Well, the problem they've had, or I guess the problem we've had really, is you're not supposed to be able to say it like that.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Because if you do actually get elected, in our history, if you're a Democrat that gets elected who says stuff like, maybe people should eat, then whenever you don't actually feed people, people get mad at you. So then over the years, you're like, well, we're not actually going to feed people. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to try and come up with plans that will help people maybe get food eventually. And that way you won't think I'm a liar. But then whenever you get elected, you don't even do that. So it's like fuck it So now Tim is just like hey, fuck it. Let's feed people. Oh
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, and you hope you hope it doesn't end up being watered down and you know, but you don't know Yeah But I mean as far as messaging goes the problem wasn't that the the messaging was bad that we should feed people The problem was a follow through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, So they were like, wow, we'll just won't say it. It was like, no, no, no, you keep saying it and then do it. Yeah, and I think that from everything I've seen of the response to him as a candidate, in terms of the real world, not Alec's world,
Starting point is 00:59:21 I think that there is a very decent sort of tone that's struck. That is that he has a lot of reasons to be excited about the things that he says. Sure. But we also have been disappointed. Sure. You know, so there's a sort of cautious enthusiasm that I feel is pretty good. I think it's a healthy response so far and some decent memes.
Starting point is 00:59:47 We'll see what happens. Yeah. So Alex has another clip that he plays, but not of walls. This one's of Jamie Raskin. Okay. This cannot be underestimated. We know Raskin is one of the top strategy individuals.
Starting point is 00:59:59 The congressman ran the fake J6 committee, interrogated myself, you and others. We took the fifth wisely. Not that we had anything wrong to hide, but he would twist it, you know, saying we're going to have a civil war atmosphere. We're going to remove Trump when he wins. Let's go ahead and get that clip out of the way and get Roger's take on it. What can be put into the Constitution can slip away from you very quickly. And the greatest example going on right now before our very eyes is Section 3 of the 14th
Starting point is 01:00:27 Amendment, which they're just disappearing with a magic wand, as if it doesn't exist, even though it could not be clearer what it's stating. And so, you know, they want to kick it to Congress. So it's going to be up to us on January 6, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified. And then we need bodyguards for everybody in civil war conditions, all because the nine justices, not all of them, but these justices who have not many cases to look at every year, not that much work to do. A huge staff, great protection, simply do not want to do their job and interpret what
Starting point is 01:01:07 the great 14th Amendment means. So he needs bodyguards for civil war. So that video is from February 17th, prior to the Supreme Court's decision on whether or not Trump could be disqualified from state ballots over the 14th Amendment. Sure. Alex is acting like this is a new clip because that pushes the narrative that he wants and because it was just Circulating on social media. So he probably thinks it's new but this is a position that Raskin expressed at a different time under different circumstances
Starting point is 01:01:34 He was probably a video responsible to express himself this way But this is like six months old and mostly what he's complaining about is the Supreme Court not Deciding there's one way or the other and putting him and Congress in a position where they need to do something. Yep. And that is not a situation that's gonna happen because they made a decision. So this is all out of date shit. Yeah, I mean it is one of those, it's just another one of those messaging things where it's just like, Hey man, what you really want to say is the Supreme Court doesn't fucking work.
Starting point is 01:02:04 And, you know, and then he said all of those other stuff and that can be twisted and all kinds of other stuff. where it's just like hey man what you really want to say is the Supreme Court doesn't fucking work and Well, you know and then he said all of those other stuff and that can be twisted and all kinds of other stuff But what he's really saying is like do your fucking job Yeah And then I won't be in trouble the bottom line of what he's saying is you need to make a decision Because it's inappropriate. These are the sort of conditions that we could end up in if you don't make a decision You've got time. Yeah. You're not busy. And they did make a decision. Harlan Crowe spent a billion dollars on your flight here, so you got it.
Starting point is 01:02:30 In terms of what Raskin was wanting, they did get a decision on that. Game over. And so this isn't even like relevant anymore. All non-existent words. So we've got Alex playing these like tiny clips of Tim Walls that are completely out of context. He's got this old clip of Raskin that is apparently him announcing a civil war. Not gonna do it. Just there's nothing here.
Starting point is 01:02:49 There's no juice. This sucks. Yep. You would need some kind of expert in bullying to really get this one going. And then you got Roger, who for a long time has been super proud of how consistent he's been about Michelle Obama being the candidate and all this shit, coming in and trying to pretend that he didn't say all that stuff and that he actually has his finger on the pulse. It's just delusional. And then, yeah, Roger just sucks.
Starting point is 01:03:17 We really are in the stretch now. Both parties have their candidates. And if they could get Donald Trump off the campaign trail on this New York charge, if he ends up being incarcerated, even if it's for 60 days or 90 days, that would be the most egregious example of a- And if they tried to kill him in Butler, they're gonna try to kill him in Rikers. That is a legitimate concern, as we have talked about here extensively.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Multiple Christian prophets with an incredible and uncanny accuracy in terms of their prophecies have all predicted a second, or at least I should say another assassination attempt against Trump. That's the wrong kind of swing. You're swinging in the wrong direction. Just another face in the crowd when you're acting like this. Yeah. Many Christian prophets have suggested.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's not how it works, man. No, no. You can't be a rational person who was in the political game, who's like, nobody's right 100% of the time, but also like, well, Jesus is real, and these prophets are uncannily accurate. No, it's God or it's not God right yeah
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yeah, and you're not gonna set yourself apart in the current right wing When you're doing just many Christian prophets have warned Rose Yeah, get off the stage. It's a little hacky. Yeah, and doesn't fit for like the Potential that Roger has he's in a unique position where he could he could really turn himself into some kind of a Remarkable I you know I see him as maybe even being able to do a villainous musical number I did it does feel and he's he's just doing standard Christian prophet and times nonsense He's a wet fart.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It feels like there's a spot for a Roger Stone, rat fucker extraordinaire, been retired, pretended to get Jesus, decides fuck it, I am on the side of the devil and we are choosing evil today, and then goes and lays waste to this world. That's the Roger that you're supposed to be. That's how you want to this world. That's the Roger that you're supposed to be. That's how you want to go out. It's why this is disappointing. And he's just retiring in Florida. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Ugh. And just becoming another of this guy. Yeah. It's just, it's sad. Yeah. Also, you can't do this, the ticket is decided and not every single time be like, and I was wrong for two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you just can't.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yeah. It's embarrassing. It would be a surprise for anybody to admit they were wrong in 2024. Yeah, but Roger really should. They made a lot of, they talked just constantly about how Michelle was gonna be the candidate. Anyway, we got one more clip here.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And you may recall that a little bit ago, Alex was really mad that Netanyahu said that if they kill Trump, we got to blow up Iran. Right? Right? Yes. He spent a day yelling about it. It's a bad thing for him to say that. Alex has realized that Trump said it.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Oh. And so his tone is a little different. Now is a good idea. Now they arrest this guy, funded by the Iran the Iranians is Pakistani trying to kill Trump. Trump says if I get killed blow up Iran. It was an Iran tried to kill him in Butler. And I hope Trump stops saying that. But clearly I even said before they announced this, they're going to blame Iran for the
Starting point is 01:06:37 assassination. And now they're trying. This is very, very troubling. Yeah, I hope Trump's up saying that he's fallen into a globalist trap by saying it. It's very different than when he was pretending that and you always said it. It is a big difference. Yeah. A lot less fire.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah. So this man from Pakistan that Alex is referring to is named Asif Merchant and he was arrested on July 12th, notably the day prior to the shooting at Trump's Butler rally. He has literally nothing to do with that assassination attempt that happened, but was allegedly planning a hit on Trump in quote, late August or early September, according to CNN. So it's something entirely different that Alex is just merging into one thing because it's easier for him and more convenient. Man, I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I feel like you have to hammer down a date before you can be arrested Can't be can't be like ah, we'll do it in spring now No, no, no, you don't get it right. You don't get to arrest somebody if they're planning on a vacation at spring Doesn't count doesn't count. I don't know Here's here's what I'd respond to that with. I would say that maybe he did have a date. And the late August, early September is just what he was telling people
Starting point is 01:07:54 in order to keep some sort of vagueness to it. Keep some flexibility in movement. Like his birthday, he doesn't want people to be giving him a surprise party. I'm around that age. Yeah, I'm 38, 34, I'm 41. You might have had more specifics in mind than that. You can't know a man's spirit.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I don't care. So here is what else happens on the show. Max Keiser comes in. Oh God. Bitcoin. Really? Yeah, and they're talking a bit about like Bitcoin and shit and I noticed that Max is wearing a bukele hat the El Salvadorian president is wearing a bukele hat
Starting point is 01:08:29 The guy who turned the whole country into Bitcoin. He's a big Bitcoin Yeah, not a human rights guy not a huge not a huge rights guy more of a Bitcoin guy managed to get the crime rate down considerably by Government crime. Yeah, I would say it's human rights turning turning the crime rate to 100% is in a sort of way turning it all the way down to zero. Well, when it's, you know, other people doing it in the government doesn't count. I wish that was not a prevailing thought process. So there's a lot of a lot of trouble with Kelly, but he's a big hero for folks like
Starting point is 01:09:04 Alex and Max, especially because he's all about the Bitcoin. He loves it. Can't get enough of this stuff. He's made millions and millions and millions, who knows, maybe billions of dollars from Bitcoin. So I was listening to this, I was like, I don't care. Max Keiser is a pretty transparent force at this point. He's kind of boring. But then
Starting point is 01:09:27 they started talking about how he was coming to the show live from El Salvador. Max has moved to El Salvador. What? He's moved to El Salvador? What? He's like, but Kelly is the hope for the future of the free world. Oh boy. It's just- Oh man. He's just- Oh man. He's gone real deep into that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Wow. That's one of those things where you're like, dude, you have taken the wrong step. You are taking that step that a lot of people in the past have taken before, and the next step after this one is a big fall. You are not going to like it. It's very interesting. I think it's overcommitting, definitely. And it's silly that he's wearing a Kelly hat.
Starting point is 01:10:04 That's no good. Yeah. I a Kelly hat. That's no good. Yeah, I don't know. That's no good. Anyway, it didn't do it for me. Yeah. Found it a little boring. But we find what Alex's take on the walls choice was and it feels empty. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I would say that there's a part of me that looks at the things happening now and goes like historically Immediacy bias. It's very nice. Everybody's having a good time. This is a instant things change And then you know reality will hit and then we'll have some more time But there is another part of me is like these people just don't have the juice They just don't have the juice the memes that were when they thought they were good were trash Yeah, and now they know they're trash and they're trying to make good stuff and it's even worse Yeah Like they just don't have the juice to do the things that they need to do and I think it's essentially because they don't think they
Starting point is 01:11:00 They'd never really had to before and to the the whole weird thing has really shook the foundation again again this is what I'm saying yeah this is not hard to defeat the whole weird thing you guys are not geniuses for coming up with a bullying word like weird congratulations I'm not saying that anyone's a genius for coming up with it but I don't think that it's as easy to respond to for these weirdos no it's not I don't think that it's as easy to respond to for these weirdos. No, it's not! Because they don't have it! Now... Again, blind consultancy, Jordan Holmes.
Starting point is 01:11:32 You can... For all your bullying needs. Okay. If you want to defeat the word weird with any number of also other words. Yeah. You should found this business in El Salvador. It would be essentially my version of Rochester and their business right Yeah, it'd be that bullshit. Yeah. Well, good luck with that. No, I don't want to do it. Okay, then don't it's evil
Starting point is 01:11:53 Anyway, we'll be back in the other episode but tell that we've website indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep Until then I'm neo. I'm Leo. Oh back to being neo Cuz I was on autopilot. Because you always were. I'm DZX Clark, I am the mysterious professor. Woo yeah, woo yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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