Knowledge Fight - #954: Not The Debate Of The Century

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to watch Alex respond with boredom and frustration to the much anticipated interview between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

Music It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. I need, I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and, stop it.

Andy and, Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding me. Hello, Alex, I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, stop it. Andy and, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding me. Hello, Alex, I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas.

Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding me. Hello, Alex, I'm Andy and I'm a fan of're a couple dudes who like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Joe Ross. Oh, indeed'm dead. I'm Jordan We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe Oh indeed we are D on Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. So what's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today. We spent a bit of time talking about before the show There's a new season of the challenge that has started and I've not seen it yet. So no spoilers Me neither, but I'm excited 40 season 40 What? Ah, man? I don't even know so

It is it is in say of all the things to have 40 seasons of it if you like to stop and really just Sit there and be like hey, do you remember when you were 17 a little bit high on? Terrible weed and watching a bunch of weirdos in a road rules real world challenge fight each other over really stupid stuff. Doing weird carnival games back in the early days. Absolutely yeah that's gonna last forever you would say to me and I go yeah you're right it totally will. It's gonna be as big as ever. It's gonna be huge and you know what else I'm also gonna get old yeah It's it's strange, but I'm excited for it a lot of old people on it on the younger people on it yep competing What fun do we like young people or do we hate young people? I have no idea

I don't know cuz I there are the younger people that I've seen from the past Recent shows have been from like Love Island or other reality shows and my wife knows who they are Because she can watch reality shows and I am utterly incapable without throwing things sure so are they are these like? What are they but I don't even know do people still call them fuck boys is that what they're called I don't know. I don't know. I don't know a lot of these shows I know some of the survivor people that come over okay, but other they're called I don't know I don't know I don't know a lot of these shows I know some of the survivor people that come over okay but other than that no I don't know okay I we have to get to know them on the challenge whatever they were on their original shows sure right you need to know them as challengers true as the challenge tests you true it's America's

fourth sport or something something like that so it brings out something different in you. It would, yeah, I suppose it does. Like for instance, I don't like Josh that much. Oh, I hate Josh. But did you know that he won his season of Big Brother? What? Yeah.

No, how? He won. Don't you have to be liked by others? It helps. There's some strategy involved. But anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is, oh, what was it? Oh, I I actually so I told you a while back that I had to quit smoking

All smoke all that stuff cuz I look all time. I'd become kind of allergic like whenever I smoked Even if it was just regular weed or whatever it would be like my throat would constrict and I was actually beginning to like oh I'm gonna die if I don't do this. Yeah, that's no good. So I tried a bunch of other stuff. I tried edibles, I tried the turp vapes, I tried all that stuff. It's just trash.

Did you try a tincture? I did. Partially just because I was like, I know the word tincture and I have never actually used one so let's give it a go. Yeah. Not great. Oh, shit. But! Your excitement really led me to think that it was gonna be that's this is a solution

It was just the word tincture which which excites me and to this day still does No, there's a there was a dry flower vape That vaporizes like like the old timey Volcano kind of things and I used to think that that was the only way you could do that And so you'd have to have a giant bag and I was like I'm an old man I'm not gonna do that I'll just quit they got one of those handheld works perfectly A little tiny handheld volcano? Handheld doesn't make a bag smell like it's incredibly good and it works well

That's the future man It is that I swear to you it is in the future it made me ask if people still call other people fuckboys that's how in the future we are. Wow. Yeah. Well, I'm glad for you finding something that works. It's positive. But I still don't understand how edibles don't work.

If smoke is the problem. No, no, no. It's not that they don't work. It's like the definition of work. It's like the definition of work is what I need it to do can be done in different chemical ways I guess but like time release all of this stuff requires all kinds of math of like oh well if I do and then maybe an hour later but you know where's this is try free basing a tincture I would I could I believe in in yourself it's possible so Jordan today we have an episode to go over and I think you can. It's just about believing in yourself. Ah, that's possible.

So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Indeed. And I think it's going to be less painful than you think. OK. That's surprising. I think anybody who liked to gamble would have bet on our episode today covering Elon Musk interviewing Donald Trump.

That was pretty much what I was expecting. And you'd be half right. We're covering Alex covering that interview right so Alex did a four-hour live stream covering this And so we're gonna talk about that and you would think that's gonna be like one of the worst things ever yeah But it's not as bad as you think and Alex Gets drunk so that sounds good. Yeah, so we'll

Make our way through this but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones that's great idea so first Nick right thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you next this is Bill Jirosi I'm a member support these guys in spite of what they do thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you next I am NOT barrel fundus, and I am NOT associated with you do news I simply review noodles and dumplings in Massachusetts udon news. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. Jordan's greatest joke

Forgot I forgot what it actually was supposed to be I was like what is you do? Darrell run does it is YouTube right? Right. Oh boy next mama of chicken. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk Thank you very much. Thank you and we had to take the credit in the mix Jordan So thank you so much to hey John apologies for any future lateness I threw out all my clocks because only God can tell me what time it is yours in armchair psychology, Katie Thank you so much. You and I, Dr. Grant. I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So on Monday, Trump and Elon Musk decided they were gonna get together and talk some shit. What a good idea. I think people have been clamoring for it. Elon Musk, one of the best interviewers in the business. I've heard that. Yeah, he really gets the truth out of people. He's unassuming, kind of like that Louis Thoreau vibe where you open up to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then Donald Trump, one of the best extemporaneous interview subjects. The two of them together, it's a powerhouse. People were excited. Yeah, I'm amazed that anyone listened to that because everybody knew what they were going to get it's all your faults I think that people some people were looked at it in the same way you might a car crash and we're like looking for the disaster to happen sure sure some people maybe were interested I don't know I can't imagine what sincere interest in this looked like

Well, but Alex decided we're gonna fucking stream this thing. We're going to get in there. We're gonna we're gonna cover it We're gonna do commentary. I hate I hate saying this and I hate being this person. I Hope chase is there you're gonna be thrilled to learn oh that all the nights of the Infowars We got chase geyser. We got Harrison Smith. We got Owen Troyer. Okay. We don't have Alex for a bit, okay? Okay, that's good. So it starts off with just chase and Harrison Discussing how excited they are about this upcoming stream. Well, one of the things that I really like about this that I was thinking about earlier was if this was a traditional television interview it

would be from 7 p.m. until 8 p.m. Central with with commercial breaks or a hard end and I love how it's just open like they're gonna start talking at 7 p.m. and who knows how long they'll go for right? It's it's this long-form thing and we don't we haven't seen Donald Trump really in this context of just having a conversation With someone that's indefinite. He's never done a Joe Rogan podcast or anything like that so to see him actually just hang out in a space for an Indefinite amount of time is really exciting for me. Well, and it's also, you know, Elon Musk is not a media personality. He doesn't have talking points. He's a corporatist, right?

He's a magnate. But that'll be interesting as well, because this, and you know, I feel like people treat Elon sort of the same way that they treat Trump, where they act like he's just a celebrity for celebrity's sake. But it's like, no, these guys are world famous. Elon Musk is the richest man in the world I don't know where he stands now, but he's certainly in the top You know three so chase being excited about Trump talking long form without guardrails is a pretty be careful

What you wish for kind of situation? I think Harrison is right though that people do look at Trump and Elon pretty similarly in as much as they were pretty famous rich Elon pretty similarly in as much as they were pretty famous rich crypto racists who have made their views a little too public and now a large part of the population hates them and they're too rich to ever really take criticism so they won't ever change. It's pretty hilarious to pretend that Elon Musk isn't basically just a media figure now though. He's saying he's so outside of this or whatever but like he owns Twitter and Alex constantly brags about how many people Musk is reaching with his truth bombs every day.

So the only thing that sets him apart from any other media interviewer is that he has no training or experience. He's just a rich asshole who's going to talk to another rich asshole. Also Elon is the richest person in the world according to Forbes. He feels like he shouldn't be because his companies are falling apart and Twitter has eroded in value since he bought it, but it turns out when you're rich enough you could lose billions of dollars and get richer. Incidentally the correct conspiracy position for Infowars to be taken right now is to hate

both of these dudes since they're almost cartoonish versions of the very things Alex has been screaming about opposing for most of his career. Musk is currently in the middle of trying to sue advertisers for not buying ads on Twitter after he brought back a bunch of Nazis, made the site a generally shitty place to spend time on, and then publicly told the advertisers to fuck off if they were unhappy about what he was doing. The judge in that case turned out to own at least $15,000 of Tesla stock, so he had to recuse himself and

you can make a pretty comfortable bet that the case will be promptly thrown out eventually unlike the numerous cases that have popped up from the innocent people who Musk has directed harassment at like Ben Brody and Amman Khalif. Elon and Trump are the right kind of bigots so it makes sense for infowars to want to support them but this is kind of 2D chess that they're playing. They need to think about the long-term and whether or not kissing the ass of billionaires is gonna be an effective anti-establishment strategy.

Your brand is kind of hurt by being excited about billionaire media guy interviewing billionaire political guy. Well, okay. I mean, yes, that would be a long-term strategy if they lose. If they win, then there is only establishment media, you know what I mean? Or you're dead. Well-

That's the idea there. So, like, you want to suck up to Elon and Trump if you think they're going to win. I don't think that they're the types that if they win and they get the kind of power that you're imagining that loyalty is gonna be super important for them. Oh no no no I'm not I wouldn't suck up to them. These are dumb people. Yeah. So that they would think that that makes sense despite decades upon decades of evidence proving that there is no loyalty from these two idiots and they will betray you for themselves instantly for no reason. They're supposed to be the tip of the spear though.

And here they are just being like, oh, it's exciting that my racist billionaire friends are chatting. I mean, I wish all of the magazines and all of the news people and all of the journalists and all of the TV people would go back to like that early 2010s and that whole like, oh, Elon Musk is a genius phase they all went through. Look deep inside and quit. Quit your jobs. Everybody quit. Quit. Well, you seemed exciting at the time. Yeah. And here we are. So you should quit.

It didn't go great. No. So, you know, you're talking about looking back. And that's that's appropriate. Because chase is sitting here looking back on better times for him on on Twitter. Oh, back when he could throw around slurs. Okay. The UK or the EU rather is really not happy about this. They sent out a letter basically threatening Elon Musk not to interview Donald Trump. Totally absurd, totally blatant foreign interference in a American election, attempted interference at least.

The fact that Elon Musk has opened up the platform so much and people are still not totally happy with it, but it's like, do you remember what X used to be like? Do you remember how it used to be that you couldn't say anything without fear of your entire account just being axed with no warning? I mean, it was bad before.

It is significantly better now. Have you ever gone back and looked at your drafts from the pre-X era? No. So I would type things and then I would look at it and I would analyze, would this get me banned? Right. And if it would, I wouldn't delete it.

I would save it as a draft. Yeah, yeah. And I've gone back and looked and there were some real bankers in there but so many of them we could say now right yeah like you couldn't even use the word retard back then right on accident you would get you get suspended and I used to do this thing where I would donate five dollars to ARC which is the Association of retarded citizens it's just called ARC now because retarded is now an antiquated term and right but if you donate it in someone's name, it would show up on their feed like oh, you know $5 was donated in a so I would donate $5 to Arc and then take a screenshot of the name of the person and then reply

Because I couldn't call him retard passive-aggressive Right, but the the era of self-censorship is virtually over. Ah, well, maybe he's looking back on a time when he had to be creative, I guess, about his slurs. Yeah. So the EU industry chief Terry Bretton wrote Elon a letter telling him that there were legal implications to this interview with Trump, and that since he was doing it, Bretton wanted to remind him of the rules of the Digital Service Act so that Elon would stay in line with that during the conversation.

He wasn't telling him that he can't do the interview or anything like that, just that there are rules that apply in EU countries that Elon is subject to and benefits from a great deal. It's fun that Chase's basic point there is that he misses when it was kind of okay to be a lazy bully on Twitter. When he's complaining about this time, the draft drafts you had to you save these things draft It's because prior to that he was fine using slurs sure and all this all this shit was fine And then moderation came in right and it started to not be okay, and now it's okay again. That's great

Yeah, I mean, I don't know I it's okay again. That's great. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I, when I stop and think about what they're talking about that old timey, I would guarantee that I was meaner to people than any of them could ever have dreamt of being. But I was never afraid of being banned because I am, I am creative. So it never concerned me. Why would you use words that are offensive to other people? I'm trying to hurt you specifically. Oh, but were you as creative as chase? Um, I don't know. I actually think that's pretty funny He I mean, it's kind of it's kind of finding a charity in order to be able to use a slur Unfortunately, if you're the ones who are gonna build ambiguity into words, it's not my fault how they're used

I don't I don't understand like how how wokeness took this joke away from him But that it does seem to be the complaint that he's making and now Elon Musk has given the joke back to him. I think the irony is that Wokeness is what gave him the good part of the joke. Having to be creative about it, having to point out the inherent hypocrisy in calling that word a bad word and yet still using it in the name of your charitable organization. That's fun. The limitations are organization. That's that's fun The limitations are literally the only thing that's interesting about what's actually saying yeah what you actually have to say

I'm just a limitation. Yeah is the only thing that's that's way better. They've at all yeah Yeah, so we get some more just I don't know killing time before Alex gets there I think that it's good that Trump has saved something like this for this late in the game because it's gonna have more momentum into the actual Election Day on November 5th than if he would have done it six months ago or nine months ago. That would have worn off. Now I hope that he's got more things like this to come over the course of the next 90 days or so because there always

has to be a real zinger all the way up until election day. You don't want people to forget some of the main awesome milestones of a campaign like the assassination, like the coming back to the X platform and getting hundreds of thousands of likes despite the Krasenstein's repeated attempts to ratio him every time they can. They get like 3,000 likes on the replies to his 300,000 like post. Not even close, not even like 1 1% right this is so sad that is the saddest thing I've ever heard we've got to keep the hits coming all the way up to the election like the time someone shot at Trump or when the

Krasen steens failed to ratio him oh man y'all y'all got to listen to your own words and then just be like oh we got it We can just change we can just stop this once those words come out of your mouth There should be an alarm sound that goes off right yeah, I think I think this should be a moment of clarity We gotta go man So if you want to hear another like just blaring red, yeah red flag. Oh, I do here here it is They're scheduled to go on X's on X spaces with Trump and Elon at 7 p.m. Tonight We will be here for that

likely it'll be sort of similar to our coverage of the R&C where we'll mostly be watching it. We'll chime in with entertaining and enlightening comments as we see fit. But mostly we'll just be watching along with all you fine folks. I believe Owen Shroyer will be joining us at some point. I know he was doing a pre-recorded interview after the war room today. And Alex Jones should be doing something a little later

this evening as well. I'm not sure what we can or want to say about that, but... No, it's published. He's gonna be with Mario Nafal. Yeah, they'll be on with Mario Nafal at 9 p.m. tonight. And I think we're gonna broadcast that too. So if you stay tuned on our live streams on either real Alex Jones or here on Infowars, you should be able to see it. So stay tuned to Infowars regardless.

Dudes, get the lifeboats. Get off off this boat Alex would rather be on Mario and the falls Twitter space than on his own show. That's to cover the musk and Trump interview here's what I say. Here's what I say. All right This is where you stage a mutiny right? All right, Chase Harrison lock the doors, right? of mutiny. Right. All right. Chase Harrison, lock the doors. Right. Nobody's getting in info wars is ours now. You're that's what you do. I mean, you're doing kind of what Alex would have done. Exactly. That's the idea. You're taking his power away from him, giving it to yourself. And now you're powerful. Right. It's, it's an indication of a priority. And Alex's priority is these other people's Twitter space

over his own network. I'll leave this to the kids. But Alex does end up spending most of the time on Infowars. So he does end up showing up, but when I was listening to this, it's clear that that's not necessarily the plan. The plan is maybe Owen Shroyer's gonna be here,

Alex will be on with this other guy. Yeah, like here's how you can sell that to them to avoid the mutiny. JV squad, time to step up. You guys are the stars. I'm gonna go do my own thing. So I'm going to give you time to shine. I'm gonna give you space to blossom.

Trader space. And then when you show up and you stay for a while, that goes out the window though. And you might as well have just been like your failures both of you Harrison I trusted you You're so good Pass me the bourbon it has fallen the bourbon has fallen It's a Twitter space. Yeah, it's really the town square when you kind of think about it. You know yeah, totally

Okay It's really the town square when you kind of think about it, you know, yeah, totally Okay, but it'll be interesting seeing a Twitter space with like all of these politicians and celebrities and probably world leaders I mean who isn't gonna be looking into this there's there's never been a You know television broadcast where you have a list of everybody watching at that moment. I which is again I just I love Twitter spaces. I love the the Novelty and uniqueness of this platform. I'm so glad this is becoming... It really is like a global town hall. Everybody can listen in, raise your hand if you want to speak.

You can bring anybody up. It's totally fascinating. And, you know, just thank God. Thank God for Elon Musk. What more can you say? Well, it's the only platform that I've been on where I've made True friends with strangers. That's great. So it's the town square, right? It's town hall But it's also owned by the richest man in the world who can shut you down and cut you out of town hall if he doesn't Like you supporting this is not in line with the correct conspiracy position But info wars is abandoned even trying to appear consistent because they're

pretty sure that the billionaire in this case is on their side. It's a nice piece of hubris, but we'll see how it works out in the long run. Also in any other setting, I can easily see Harrison saying that there's the list of everyone who's tuning into this conversation. It seems like a good idea for like a shadowy globalist organization to make an enemies list, but in this case, I guess it's a cool feature of Twitter spaces also glad to hear chase is making friends on Twitter now might be a good time just to say that he follows us Surprising that's not surprising. That's funny. I, I, oof. Oh boy. Making friends. Oh man. I, you know, I, I would posit that

a lot of these people, and I think all of us, really are afraid of, in some ways, getting kicked in the face, metaphorically or literally. And to me, it's always been just like a math thing that if you are licking boot, you are much closer to the kick in the face. historically or literally. And to me, it's always been just like a math thing that if you are licking boot, you are much closer to the kick in the face. Your foot's right there. Exactly, back off. Just leave it alone.

Don't lick that boot, you're gonna get kicked in the face. Yeah, it's a good cautionary thing. Yeah. I always felt that way about pro wrestling. It's like, that person can't give you that move if you're not in that position Yeah, don't get in that position. Whatever you do if you're fighting against I don't know stone cold don't let him kick you in the stomach. Whatever you do. You're getting stunned if he kicks you in the stomach Totally that's just planning. It's just strategy. It's basic strategy

Yeah, that this guy has a special move that will defeat you so avoid said move Don't lick that boot and you get kicked in the mouth seems odd How many people are desperate to lick that boot man? So they got to kill some time before Owen Troyer shows up or the space starts or anything and so Harrison begins to read IM's Messages that come in and so he's got an interesting one here Crypto Plissken says, I'm worried the Dems will cheat for Trump

during the election instead of themselves, then investigate instead of Trump as the cheater. I've not heard that theory before. That's a wild one, but I like it. I like it too. Because that would make Mike Johnson the Vice President, which would cause a problem for the Dems when they stuff the ballot for Trump.

Interesting. I've not heard about that Idea, but with I don't mmm. I don't know that that is a little far-fetched, but then again who knows He just by default becomes the vice president or does Kamala get to pick another one That's a good question. I need to chat GPT that he would be in he would be in third in Line you guys should know this first of all and second your spot shouldn't be I need to chat GPT this I I am Very sad. I am blown away by all of that exchange it's it's it's a fun little ride because the person who's coming from the I am is like That's a interesting theory

For Trump in order to create evidence that Trump cheated in order to use them against him. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Right? You're getting your opponent disqualified. Right, right, right. You shouldn't watch porn and have the art of war open on the same tap. Do you know what I mean? If you're one of these right wing guys guys you can't be like big natural whatever

This guy has this weird theory yeah, and Harrison's response to it is That sounds interesting Chase comes in with a I haven't heard that one before but I like man there is a writers room It's a creative writing exercise. I I just appreciate that it is far more like It's not about oh, this is a stupid theory. This is a right theory or a wrong theory It's more about oh haven't heard that one before yeah, that might be fun to say like that. Yeah Yeah, let's say that what people to use that it is a little bit like they're they're swishing it around in their mouths a little bit That is a little bit like they're they're swishing it around in their mouths a little bit. Oh

They they cheated themselves out of the election to trick us. How could they be so smart, right? That's fun. Yeah, that is I like that. Yeah, so the space is about to start sure I don't know if you know this I assume you do because you live in the world The space did not start on time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I assume you heard that. I heard that there were problems. It's a rocky... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there some trouble?

Now, Chase has gotten up and left because he's setting up the space, I believe, that we'll be talking on. Owen Shroyer is going to join me momentarily. We should be beginning in 30 seconds, but who knows? I mean, that's, I guess that's, that is the double-edged sword with Twitter spaces is It's not Broadcast TV so that's good but it also means we're not sure whether they're gonna start directly on time and

I assume the crew is working feverishly to make sure that we get the All right folks, I this is a new twist we're gonna go to a quick video This is one that Trump posted on his going to go to a quick video. This is one that Trump posted on his ex. It's called Test of a Man. Yeah. So they do play some Trump ads. But yeah, they're not sure when it's going to start and that is actually a good thing.

This is not professional and we don't know. So Chase has gone to the control booth. Owen's going to be showing up. And then what do you know? Like, okay, that does make sense if you're a pirate radio station. Not if you are the richest man in the world who owns the platform you are about to start. Interviewing the former president who's running for president. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah. If you and I are pirate broadcasting from fucking international waters, you should not know when the broadcast is gonna start. Yeah. All right? If we own CBS, then you not know when the broadcast is gonna start. Yeah. All right? If we own CBS, then you should know when the show starts. It would be a sign of incompetence if you're just sort of flying by the seat of your pants.

It is cool when you're broke. Yeah. So Alex actually shows up because the space is about to start and I guess Mario Nafal didn't want him on at this point or something. I'm not sure. Okay. But Alex, he's here. It wasn't hard to predict the X spaces because of, I mean, I was on the Ilan a while back ago. 25 million people watched it live. 25 million, 30 million

the next couple days. 50 million. I bet there's a hundred million trying to tune in. But when Biden or Kamala Harris has one of their events on YouTube, it's got 500 consecutive viewers, literally, maybe 600. On a good day. On a good day. So this is a good problem to have like Rumble. When I've been on some shows like Steven Crowder, when he gets to 2-3 million, it crashes. And a guaranteed election night, we're not going to crash if we pay for the bandwidth, but it's going to cost a lot of money. It costs a lot of money to bring in this information. Something I'm not good at is plugging to supportinfulwarstor.com. Boom! Right out the gate. Something I'm not good at.

Pretty smooth. But so the space isn't working and Alex's immediate response to it is pretty rational, which is there's too many people who are trying to watch it the infrastructure at Twitter sucks They didn't plan well for this totally, but it works into the everyone likes us No one wants to watch Harris so you can you can work with this for now sure And that's the space that they're going to they're gonna live in So while we wait why not talk about that assassination? That was pretty exciting. That is the question that I think I did have about all that, because I don't care what they said to each other, because they didn't tell each other anything true. There's nothing

that they could say that would be informative. No. They don't know anything. The only thing that's interesting, and the only reason I'm even doing this episode is because of Alex's response to the things that happen right no that's that's what's interesting to me is everybody I maybe I'm crazy but I do feel like everybody kind of knows what's going on and we're all in varying degrees of denial about how it's gonna shake out right but everybody that I've talked to my family all these people, like, they know this is bullshit. I think nobody's surprised that this is bullshit. I think I feel like it's really tough for me to imagine someone doesn't. I mean, I have to include

it as a possibility. It's crazy to me because it is like they're all just like well obviously we're gonna vote for this guy But he is a terrifying nonsense spewing rapist like what yeah, how is that also true? I don't know I don't know hmm so the They talk about this assassination attempt and Alex appears to be arguing with an imaginary person who said that the shooting doesn't didn't happen Okay, I don't know who this person is, but he's... The whole shooting didn't happen or just the ear part? It was staged or something, I don't know. Whatever it is, yeah.

But he's arguing with someone in his head and he's decided that he's going to prove them wrong. Okay. These idiot leptists put up images of full cartridges and they usually put up five five six they'll put up like 308 or 338 lapua or something or 30 odd six and say oh this whole thing hit his ear no the bullet fires and i can tell you how many times i've shot at a wild hog 600 yards away or many things i've shot whitetail you name it i've done a lot of hunting back when i time mule deer mountain goats you name it and you'll shoot and think you missed it, and you get another one in the chamber

and fire it right in the chest, it falls over dead. When you get there, you just see a graze right through an ear, a little bit of blood, a tiny little scrape, or right above the top of the back, or right across the leg, because you're shooting 700 yards away, 500 yards away. I mean, so they think like a full cartridge shot out and would, no, it just skimmed him.

It just went right by at 3000 or 2500 feet per minute, 3000 on the muzzle, but at 150 yards, about 2400 feet per second and just skimmed his ear. And so we haven't had time yet, but I wanna go out the next few weeks with you guys, some of these outdoor shooting ranges and put it maybe watermelons, you name it, and we'll just set the scopes up, and shoot, and graze it,

and show people what we're talking about. Yeah, well, I mean that- They don't get grazing. Yeah, that's one of the- part of the miraculous thing of the assassination attempt is the way it happened, it could not have been faked. I mean, there's a photo of the bullet flying through the air. Not even an AI robot could follow his head perfectly, Nothing. With the wind and things, and only skim him now it had died I mean

yeah this was real I mean you can't fake this if I were Alex I would say that all of that is evidence that it must be faked it's too perfect yeah I mean be I don't know who he's arguing with exactly himself yeah he's the person who would say it's fake yeah this is the imagined enemy of himself yeah he's the person who would say it's fake yeah this is the imagined enemy of himself yeah he's like oh the only idiot who would say something like this was faked oh shit it's me ah i do like though that i have this image in my head of them going out to a shooting range and william telling it with chase put a watermelon on top of his head we gotta prove it try and graze it listen we're not gonna burrows this, okay, Chase?

You're gonna be fine. Yeah, you'll be all right. Ah, we also have a flight lined up for me to be not in this country anymore very quickly, but you're gonna be fine. I just, I think that would be a great video. Yeah, yeah. So the space does not start for a bit,

and they're not really all that surprised. Let's just be clear. This is a strict, I'm sorry to say it, it's obviously probably true at this point. I think it's safe to say they can't even get on air. This was a strategic blunder. They should have back ended this transmission, done it in a studio like we do and then streamed it to X. As a side deal.

They should not have relied on the front end X technology to make sure this thing got off the ground Because here we are not shocked at all that it's not and that's what's frustrating is we had to come from the trenches Myself 30 years you a decade you guys a long time where we had to have our own stuff And then and I know that X talked to back room folks own stuff and then and I know that X talked to back room folks it is his own stuff it's all his stuff yeah I get it you have millions of people tuning in and dialing in it's hard to get all that done maybe they should have one tier for the host that's video then another tier that's audio but so we so we did get a control room well hey let's get Chase Geyser who's the spaces expert which I think great technology. They're working the bugs out

We're not criticizing you know it must was no absolutely not a maverick We would be you know obviously some average on free speech But this is too big to go with an experimental technology in my opinion well I mean that actually I saw the speculation today that it would crash. I think you've even said that right yeah That was I mean I talked everybody did predict. I mean that's not In a rain in Florida or something. Yeah, it's a fucking easy prediction. What is happening?

This site barely works, it sucks, and uh- We're not criticizing it. The richest person in the world is interviewing the former president and presidential candidate for the Republican party. So obviously there's gonna be a lot of eyes on this and it's it's shitty infrastructure. Everyone knows this. Alex knows this. Owen knows this.

It's obvious. Everybody knows it. Yeah. I mean, it's like I remember so much from when I was growing up because that was the that was the narrative in my house when I was growing up is because it was during the Clinton years. So it's like, ah, I should be run like a business. The United States should be a business,

or then it became a household. Either way, somebody's dad should be in charge and control all the money, right? And this is like, if, if they could pull off a business, maybe, but this is their business. This is business. This is what their business looks like!

I do not want anything being run like this! They announced this considerably in advance. There was every opportunity to not have this kind of false start. And everyone saw it coming and it happened. So that's where we're at kind of at this point on the stream. Look, look, look. Elon, he's the first to admit it. So that's that's where we're at kind of yeah this point on the stream Elon he's the first to admit it. He is the guy that takes on too much So, you know, we can't don't do it

Say chase in the control room Chase guys are you know more about spaces than us? You're kind of the techie around here of the house Well, what's going on? Well Well, there's over 205,000 people that are in the space right now. I'm actually currently in the space because I was one of the first people to join it. So I was able to get in. But it seems like they're having server capacity issues because so many people are trying to join the space at the same time. People like the Hodge twins and others are in the replies on both Elon Musk's account and Donald Trump's

account, saying that they're having a hard time getting in. I was about to say I'm not an engineer, but I've noticed the last 20 minutes is about 200,000. I'm guessing that's the threshold of the server, so millions more are trying to get on. Yeah, absolutely. And I know from conversations that I've had with Dick Sordor, because he and Mario, of course,

are very intimately involved with the Spaces team at X, that as of a few months ago, the Spaces team was only like half a dozen to a dozen people total, as far as engineers are concerned. So we're talking about a really kind of bootstrap lean team dealing with this massive capacity. I'll tell you what, if this was a Kamala Harris space, I don't think it would be breaking the internet. There'd be 3000 while Donald Trump breaks the internet. Kamala Harris breaks America, right? Oh, perfect. Say that again. Well, Donald Trump breaks the internet. Kamala Harris breaks America. Yes, and they're going to spin this tomorrow and hopefully Elon's going to follow his engineers

yelling at people to up the servers. I imagine he is yelling at somebody. Yeah, Chase got a good catchphrase in there. Alex was very proud of that. I hate it whenever there's nothing to argue with. He has just made all of my points perfectly about why everything he believes is wrong. And everybody who wants to be president shouldn't be. And everything that he thinks is right should be thrown into the sun. He made the argument for me.

And I think that there is such a, like, yep kind of response to this. You're watching AlexDualive's stream of this stream. The stream interview doesn't work. And their reaction to it is, oh, yeah, obviously, they fucked up. You you know, the yeah, I if you if you Okay, okay. How about this? How about this? Let me throw this out at you. Theoretically speaking, this is an idea of who we are choosing we choose to lead us right so if you are choosing who to lead you right and then your next words are like well obviously nothing they do works and you know he'll be the first to tell you that his failing is that he tries to do too much and then fails yeah fuck off so anyway

it's just a logistical issue though, really. Well yes, but that is his job! Yeah, but he does, he takes on too many challenges. I'm no engineer. It's at $205,000. That's the cap. Yep. I'm surprised they can take $205,000 people are able to dial into a thing where they control things.

That is not your correct reaction to this. I think the biggest venue in the world is the Maracana in Brazil is like a hundred That is not your reaction to this Stadium, but that's what it is So it's like you've got ten million people trying to pour into the Maracana like it they just it doesn't fit It doesn't hold that many people it just it's not What so I just think that that's the deal here. And you know what, Alex?

Hey, there's a silver lining to everything. And maybe that's ultimately how this is going to end up is Musk and Trump in the silver lining is they should say, cut all the other speakers and they should talk. I don't know why. You know, I mean, I would have to fit in five minutes. Oh, yes, you would have. We all know that. We do all know that.

So I think that maybe Owen read an article about this venue in Brazil. I would make sense. Yeah top of mind I think I probably just played that clip because of Alex's response being if the glove doesn't fit you must quit I don't even understand. No, that's amazing. Very strange. That is amazing. Yeah So there's nothing going on really it's there's no conspiracy. No, that's amazing. Very strange. That is amazing. Yeah So there's nothing going on really it's there's no conspiracy. No, that's the problem. That's the problem when it's Incompetence you're supposed to make it a conspiracy But it's not really incompetence if you look at it the right way. It's you're too popular Like the limitations of this technology are kind of understandable. It's just that you are way too popular for the technology to handle.

Right, right. Which I accept if you are a media company or a person who talks. But if you're literally purveyed as the tech guy who invents tech Shit like this Then yeah, it is incumbent upon you to make it work. It's kind of glaring when you don't yeah Yeah, and that's kind of why you need an excuse yep, and thankfully Elon comes through with an excuse for everybody I've already Really just what's he got I bet it's people got rid of Rhodesia no what it was it might be in the background somewhere this was too easy to predict and so hey maybe it'll be kind of a troubleshooting thing for X now and they can figure out how to make it better in the future I hope this

thing ends up getting off sometime tonight if not though, you know, either way We got an update from Elon Musk Elon Musk as there appears to be a massive DDoS attack happening Issued threatening letters today. I figure must have this updated. Yeah, I think that probably is it Oh, yeah, that's totally probably it We were just talking about how there's too many people in the infrastructure of Twitter city But yeah, it was probably a massive DDoS attack probably run by the u.s. They hate this and it's too scary He's too powerful. That's that's that sucks. Yeah, that sucks because it's not fun No, it's not fun to fight against a baby

Well, I think it's fun that there's that clip is like 35 seconds long and starts with Owen being like yeah We all saw this coming, you know, it's no big deal and then it ends with oh no I mean you I mean I I just I just like it If you're if you're willing to go there then. It's almost like seeing keys jangling. It is. It is. In 30 seconds, you go from... 100%.

Oh, it's a DDoS attack! Whee! That totally makes sense. No, that's way more making sense than the thing that we all agreed upon five seconds ago. And it does appear that Musk may have been lying about that. Oh? Yeah.

So anyway, we do finally get to the space and there's some elevator music playing it. Okay All right. There is some speaking happening in the space right now. They go to it go to it here. That's Well, it looks like it went away they just did a quick update in the space where they said there was a cyber attack and now They're back to the whole music Hey, I love this attack. It only makes it bigger. If we don't, most people are like, oh god, we're attacked. We're going home. This is what happens in the Info War, folks. I mean, you got Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Obviously, millions want to hear it. And I tell you, my gut level, which I said is, I guarantee it's true. He probably boosted all

the bandwidth, did major updates, but there was an attack on top of it. Oh, see, we've shifted over now. This is what's going on. The EU is too scared of Trump and Elon coming together. And so they had to attack this. I do think it's probably super lucky. If you're able to announce in the space that there's a cyber attack while a cyber attack is going on, that is nice And still be able to play your hold music. It is so nice of the cyber attackers to give you that courtesy, you know? Because a lot of ransomware people, they'll just drop the software onto your thing

and then they'll lock it so you can't do anything unless you pay them. It's kind of like a ransom, you know? This is an ambivalent attack. Yeah, it's more of a like, I wonder how much we can fuck up is it 20 minutes I guess Okay, it's it's almost like a villain

Whose plot isn't to actually stop something, but it's like let's see them get around this I mean and that seems dumb it does it feels like a plan that somebody whose other plan is What if the Democrats Rigged the election for Trump right in order to prove that he rigged it similar headspace. Yeah. Yeah So, uh, you know what? This isn't all bad news Their stream isn't working info wars, baby

Their stream isn't working. You know who's is? Infowars, baby! Who do I have in there posting on X? Because I see us with millions of viewers already tuning to us. So I want to put this out on X as another repost of the live feed. You guys got me?

I want to put what I'm about to say out, I can do it myself right now, on X of the live show feed. I want to put this out right now. You guys ready? Yeah, yeah, I'm listening to you right now to you right now I want you to retweet this on your post is on X Elon Trump interview under hack attack watch censored feed here which we're about to launch which we're taking it's

all true and that'll go super viral because people need to know my first is another being blocked I don't know why they can get on I'm trying to find out we got to tell them we're already telling what just happened See, it's not hype. It's real. Okay, so defensive Elon Trump interview under hack attack see censored interview here live That's the headline. And you see we're not even doing it in the future. It already happened. But the people trying to hit the Elon link

aren't able to get this because it shut down. We're telling them. So you heard the headline right now. You know, explosive. Elon Trump interviewed under hack attack. Here and see censored interview at this link. Sound good? Something like that? All right, fire that out. So this is, that's chops right there. Yeah.

That's somebody who is adept at making lemonade out of lemons. Yeah. He is sitting there like, how does this work for me? Ah, I will get everyone who can't get on yep that's the smart move that's the smart move yeah it's exploitative and he realizes it in the moment while he's trying to like rationalize why aha this is not hype well I mean I would think that the thing

that makes sense about Twitter space is I've never used it obviously and I'm not a Twitter obviously would be like the decentralized node aspect right so you that makes sense about Twitter space, I've never used it, obviously, and I'm not on Twitter, obviously, would be like the decentralized node aspect, right? So you can be on your Twitter space watching somebody else's Twitter space, right? So people can connect to yours through... I guess. I thought that would be the thing that would make sense. I don't know.

As opposed to just one giant... But I mean, hey, I'm not the richest man in the world. So what do I know? Well, I do know that whatever it is is not working. No. At this point. But you know, Banta Video is, their streams are, here's my-

They make a killing off this. I've got a thing, I've got a thing. I think we need to do this as a society and as a language. We need to really limit what hack can be applied to. You know, like the Roger Stone thing, whenever people are like, oh, Iranian hackers sent rat, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Roger Stone got hacked by super brilliant Iranian hackers. There are, there's a phishing email from every major government in Roger Stone's spam file right now. Every single major government in Australia

has a phishing email. If Roger Stone accidentally clicks on a link, then Australia has all of his shit. I think you're being too generous assuming it's governments. Well, fair enough. Whatever. But you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's so fun to say hack attack.

But that's why people think they got hacked instead of they were stupidly clicked on an email link. Or you just were unprepared for a giant group of people to show up at your Twitter space. So Owen spent some time before, I mean, because we don't have anything to watch. Right, we don't have anything to do. So he just sort of complains about how some people shouldn't vote. Smart. But the Lemmings stand behind her and cheer and clap.

Like they love it. And I'm just sitting here, because if you look at the original founding of this country and the political science when it first was founded, we've really kind of gone off pasture in a lot of ways. Oh really? Well, I don't mean just the basic constitutional violations but I mean how the actual science is applied.

No, no, here it is. Like these people shouldn't vote. I'm going to, I'm like, I'm to the point now where I'm like, F your voting rights bro. Did you see the women? I never played it today. Can you guys cue that up? Are the Democrat Party women howling like animals saying, she a woman, she black. Have you seen this club who

boy so I mean that is the correct take for an originalist constitution right like it should only be white men voting like that's what he believes so it's a far more honest take than a lot of people in this space are willing to articulate yeah absolutely if your voting rights bro it should be I liked the country the way that it was originally set up. And all of you think because the words apply to more than white people that they should. And I disagree. Right. I like. Along with Thomas Jefferson. I don't think you should have the right to vote.

I like thinking that my rights are God given. Right. But that doesn't mean that everyone's are. Inalienable white human rights. Yeah. Okay. Okay, Owen. Cool. Please delineate who you think shouldn't vote. Other people who shouldn't vote.

Oh, God. So we get to the stream finally. Yes. And it starts off dull. They just started. This is Donald Trump and Elon Musk now. 42 minutes in. here it is. ... service attack against our servers and saturated all of our data lines, like basically

hundreds of gigabits of data were saturated. We think we've overcome most of that and so it's now time to proceed. But as this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has to say. And so, but I'm honored to have this conversation. I want to emphasize it's a conversation, and it's really intended

to just get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation. It's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way. And when there's an adversarial interview, like no one's themselves in an adversarial interview. So for- Strong disagree. And at the kind of open-minded independent voters who are just trying to make up their mind. And so you can understand like what is,

you know, what is it just like to have a conversation? So, I'm honored to... Donald, great to speak. This is starting off a little rocky. I mean, you had the tech problems and then this is a little bit like, oh, we're just trying to catch a vibe here, man. We're just trying to let you know. If you're out there, you're an undecided voter.

Maybe you're somewhere in the middle. We just want to give you a vibe, see what Trump is really like when he's just having a little bit of a chat with another billionaire all right seems like an interesting launch off point that's what you're setting out to do yeah yeah so it's interesting because I don't believe this great I don't believe that the intention is to allow undecided voters to get a make up their own mind about Trump sure I think that there is an intention to sell Trump on undecided voters No no no no no it's just a regular conversation to find out what a regular guy starting with this kind of a tone is dishonest to the utmost degree it is like I like that that is like listen he starts with lying about why it

didn't start and then he starts lying yeah I think that you can make an ethical argument for lying about the DDoS attack. Whoa whoa, I don't even want to get into that. It's not deeply unethical to cover your ass. I'm not going to fight you. I'm not going to fight you. I think that this is more unethical. I think this one's definitely not going to go. Nobody's, Foucault isn't being like, ah, let him get away with this one.

No. Not happening. So the first question out of the box Oh, which I think is a classy move for an interviewer. Sure. I think this is why you get someone like Elon Musk to do the interview Essentially his first question is like hey, how was it to get shot at that's actually an interesting question. Yeah Maybe we could start off with, I mean, the assassination attempt, which was an incredible thing. And I have to say that, you know, your actions after that assassination attempt were inspiring. You know, you, instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down,

you were pumping your fist in the air and saying, fight, fight, fight. And I think that's, I mean, you know, the president of the United States represents America and I think that is, that is America. That is strength under fire. And so that's, you know, a big, you know, part of the reason why I was excited to endorse you as the president of the United States for having another term here. That was just incredibly inspiring. But what was it like for you? Not pleasant. I had to be honest. I said there was blood, I had small blood. I didn't know I had that much blood.

The doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is a very bloody place. This seems like a joke, honestly. That seems like a parody of what Elon would do. Talk about your feelings about this guy getting shot at for a minute. Then ask, hey, what was that like to get shot at and don't be like I have a lot of blood So much blood the ear is a place full of blood. I mean that is such like like If he wasn't a psychopath

There are so many great like there's so many interesting things to I've never been shot at sure I've never been shot out on purpose or on accident Yeah, right like and and the idea of how many people have been shot at how much violence and gun violence is part of the United States to then be able to be like I am I'm a fucking victim of gun violence in the United States Here's how I feel about it instead is like he's like, eh, no good. A lot of blood. Not fun. My doctors, they said I had a lot of blood in my ear. Double checked my ears for blood. I had the most blood in the most ears they've ever seen.

That's what they said. The doctor said I had the most blood in one ear that anybody's ever had. It still was healthy and it wasn't a elephantitis. It honestly feels like what a Trump impersonator would say. Yeah, it's what I would say if I was making a joke About what he might say yeah, so anyway that moment I think is kind of fun out of the gate, and then this just just nose dives into boring city

Yeah, this shit is so boring. They don't have anything to say no They're just rich and you can tell that like Alex and everyone in the studio is kind of like, ugh. And we thought, my first question was because I heard bullets flying over me and I said, how many people were killed? Because we had a massive crowd there, a tremendous thousands and thousands of people and there was no land, I mean it was just, it was all people. So I said, how many people have been killed? Because I knew there were other shots being fired. And they said, we don't know yet, but some people have been badly hurt. And I have to give the secret service sniper,

they call them, or sharp shooter, but sniper, because he didn't know there was a problem. I'm shocked you don't hear snoring. Like there is, this is just dull and you can feel it. And then it comes to a head pretty quick. Because Trump starts talking about the distance of the shooter and stuff. And Owen does a little fact checking in real time.

Why? Because it doesn't match with what they want. Oh God. And they are just, you can feel like this is not what we want. You know, Trump just said something really curious. He said that the sniper that took out the shooter had three times the distance.

So I don't know what that's about because the testimony from the new director of secret service and the FBI deputy director was it was the sniper team to the right of Trump, if you're looking at the stage, is who shot the guy. So that's definitely not three times the distance. Now there was a speculation that the guy that shot the shooter on the roof came from across the fairgrounds and was on a roof that is not seen anywhere in any of this footage. That's curious to me. Yeah, well I mean Trump's not perfect. He doesn't know all the angles.

The angles. Not truth, false, nothing at angles. And there was some people behind me that put up with it. Let's see how Trump's praising secret service to the crowd. Great, move on. What are you gonna do to Ronald Rowe, the head of the secret service, who actually directed this and lied to Congress? So you remember way back, we did an episode

about Alex covering a Julian Assange press conference that was on at like four in the morning or whatever, where he thought he was gonna like really drop some bombs. This is gonna be the one. But it was WikiLeaks' anniversary, and he was just giving kind of a formal celebration of the anniversary. This has that same energy,

where this is not what Alex wanted. He wanted Trump to fucking say that there was a Secret Service stand down. He needs these things that feed into his conspiracies, and instead Trump's like, Secret Service did a great job, they killed the guy into his conspiracies and instead Trump's like, Secret Service did a great job. They killed the guy.

I have a lot of blood in my ear. It's like, I love Steph Curry shooting basketball threes. They shoot, he shoots them from a far distance and then they go in the hoop. That does not mean he can act. I don't understand what we're doing here. Even if you think Elon Musk is great at the thing he does, that does not make him a good broadcaster. He's never done it. No, that's true. That's true. He has some holes in his game, his broadcast game.

Right? Like how is that? It shouldn't even be like, hey man, just don't do this. This isn't your gig. Well, I think compounding that too is that Alex I think loves the version of Trump that he pretends is real Yeah, and this real version is kind of boring. It sucks Yeah, it does not really match up to all the storylines that Alex has told right and it's dull Yeah, and so Alex kind of bores himself That's fun. He's just like and then he melts like the wicked witch of the West. If that were a metaphor for getting drunk, yes.

But when you see it, the best is the border. By the way, we just went up by another 100,000 viewers on one X feed. You had all our X feeds together, about two million in four speed. It's about three million. Everybody retweet, repost live feed of Trump. Elon Musk censored on X Retweet it right now retweet the live feed at real Alex Jones right now Tell me push up 20 million if you do it just the enemy hates it

Exercise your muscles annihilate the enemy attack attack attack info or attack attack Fire at will this is a frickin this ain't a game. I didn't hold in position and stay on there to lose We're gonna win, people! I'm so bored, people! Wow. Yeah. Wow. He's so bored!

It's boring! It's boring! If he- and if- that's- and if- like, that should be good! It should be- if it was like a real politician talking about real stuff with a real person, and not Elon Musk and Donald Trump, then it should still be boring. It should still be like, hey, I think a 30% extra tax on blank is a good idea. That's boring. That's great. I suggest that I could watch Elon Musk and Trump do that interview and not be painfully bored. I could probably find a way to stay engaged throughout it. Yeah. Alex cannot. I can. And I find that fascinating. Not even close. Nope. No. But I mean you

shouldn't. I mean like you're extraordinary for doing that but that does not necessarily mean that it's like a a skill that should be replicated. Again, Steph Curry great at shooting threes. Steph Curry's not great at listening to this interview. True. You're not great at shooting threes. Steph Curry's not graded listening to this interview. True. You're not graded shooting threes. This happens. You don't know that.

I'm an outside man. I don't know, we haven't played, Harry, you're right, we haven't played basketball. I have a good pop-up. You may be graded threes. Listen, I assumed too much. That's what I was known for back in the day. That's because I couldn't dribble.

That would make sense. I can't dribble, but I had a mean outside jumper. The white dude in the corner is the most dangerous player in the NBA. I think that they built this up so much, and it was so important. The richest man in the world who's saving free speech is going to interview our God King. Yeah. And it's just pouring his shit.

And so Alex is left to promote his website and then just basically beg Elon to say team humanity gross You know, who do you want on Team America? And and I think we want to just say okay, we we want to Let in people who are gonna say team humanity agree with me great contributors to say team humanity you know our society and to our economy and You know and everybody tweeted Elon to our economy and you know, and everybody tweeted Elon and tell him call for team humanity. Say that, like in my opinion, actually, I'd say like probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are are are actually good hard work. Exactly. Team humanity. We're not against them. But they're being used as a weapon.

And okay, so I mean, he's trying to sort of like will Elon to say the thing that Alex put on a shirt. Yeah And so yeah, it's a tweet at him to say the thing that I was on my shirt so I could sell the shirts This is sad Yeah If I was if I was sitting with one person on a couch and that person was like, oh do the thing do the thing Do the thing I would be like man, you might be a little too into this, but that's okay. Or they're high. I would not want to be broadcasting myself talking to the TV as if the TV was totally like about to listen at any moment. Everyone get on Twitter and help me talk to the TV.

At any moment the TV is going to listen to us guys. We just got to yell louder. Damn. Wild. It is a real dud and a disappointment for a good while. Yeah. You know, the biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean's going to rise 1 1⁄8 of an inch over the next 400 years.

The big, and you'll have more, you'll have more oceanfront property. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The biggest threat is nuclear warming, because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power, and we have to not allow anything to happen with stupid people like Biden. You know, Biden did something with Russia. There was no chance of him ever going in. And when I left, and then after I left, they started-

We're gonna go back again, if you want the raw feed, it's on X of Trump and Elon Musk, amazing. Launched about 47 minutes late because of DDoS. We're here, we're covering it. When it's over, the next 45 minutes, I'm supposed to join right now, but it started late. Mario NoFall and Nick Sordor and others with spaces to take your comments,

but we're gonna stay up here as long as it takes. Let me say this though. I've got crew that was here at 6 a.m. this morning. I'm a very small crew. I need your support. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Do it. The plugs not not. I've got crew that's been here since six. I'm going to let them go. Yeah. Nope. I got crew that's been here since six. They're going to stay. And if you want to pay them, you better give me money because I'm not doing it for free. It's, yeah, it's not the most tasteful. But hey, look, it's dull. It's boring.

It is dull. This is what Alex needs to do, needs to cut in, do little and because otherwise you're just you're running the risk of okay. Trump has started talking about Biden. Yep. He is at risk of sounding like he still thinks he's running against Biden. Totally going to. Or saying something about how Biden's actually going to come back or all this. You don't want to deal with that nonsense. So cut him off and go do a plug. Yeah. It's great. I was not expecting this next thing. Okay. And that

is that Alex is pretty upfront about how like, this isn't what I wanted. Interesting. At drjostadgels.com and then fullworstor.com. Before we go back to Elon, and look, I love Trump, and it's a good interview, but he thinks results get him to places, which is true in the real world. But he needs to be talking about the Secret Service stood down, Ronald, McDonnell Rowe stood down and lied to Congress, the New World Order, all the things that went on. I'm not giving Trump a minus here, but I'm giving him like a B plus instead of an A plus, and maybe he'll go there, but I'm really wishing for something else here.

I'm really wishing for something else here. This sucks. This is so fascinating. This is so fascinating. I feel like we've lived through the most fascinating, also like in a hundred years. It'll be very fascinating But right now it's really fucking pisses me off But this idea of like Alex for the longest time knew his place what he was lying about was not real He was doing a game. He was doing the bit right then Trump comes around and they're like

Maybe this is real. Yeah, maybe this is all real, right? This is all real and then they convinced themselves that it was real Mm-hmm, and now they're back again like oh, no, I don't know if any of this is real. Oh shit. What is happening? I don't think anything. I believe is real anymore. There's the dissonance of the fake Trump that they've created and the unavoidability of An interview with Elon Musk and Trump like you can't not cover this But it sucks and it does not match up with the person who?

if all you have to work from is a Couple of fun sound bites with swelling music under it a picture of him bleeding from the face with a flag over his head Totally these things are really inspiring if you can just pretend that everyone just hates him because the globalists have tricked them into hating him. Yeah. There's a lot you can work with, but when you're faced with the real thing, it kind of sucks. No, it is 100% a fa- here's what it is, alright? Trump and Elon Musk have labored under this idea that because the mainstream media won't just say what they say, the mainstream media has kept them from becoming as popular as they should be.

Right. But the reality is because the mainstream media condensed, edited, and then turned them into the caricatures that the mainstream media wanted to talk about, that wound up being what made them popular. So they think that what they're doing is what people want. And people think that the mainstream media is portraying them as what they're not. But the reality is that people want

the mainstream media's version of Trump more than they want Trump, or the right-wing media's version of Trump. Probably. It's crazy. Yeah. All these people are nuts. I think so, but at least they're fucking bored I got a safe one and I said to Boeing man. You guys must make a lot of money. George Soros his birthday today What are we doing? It might be Alex. What are we doing? No, no, no, shut it down! Tim Walz is a football guy.

Everyone loves football, they can see the alien in them. Humans like football. I'm wondering about Tim Walz's desire to get involved in youth football. What? Oh, I was going to cast somebody in a movie to play a pedophile on our Tim Walz. I was thinking he was a pedophile. Okay, fine. So we're so bored that we're doing our classic insinuating that Tim Walz is a pedophile.

Sure. And giving a birthday shout out to George Hey, let's give it up for 81 for a mr. Soros. Someone out there is 93 years young Happening this is bad. This is bad times I mean it it's it is so funny again But only because you're kind of condensing it editing it and cur. If we were forced to all just sit here for the good bits, we'd be like, well, let's just turn this off. Yeah. It would be very difficult to make it through.

I want these people to go away. So Elon starts talking about how government wasteful. So we need to maybe put together a commission to get rid of government waste. Right. Like we should have a small team of people, you know, like we don't need a large group of people for like, let's say that we were doing some sort of broadcast and we only have so much server space. What we want to do is really make a tight, lean team that can react poorly when things go wrong. And we need to do that with the government. And that's why Elon should be part of that small team. Exactly.

This is just, I don't know, man. And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission if it were full. I'd love it. Well, you, you're the greatest cutter. I mean, I look at what you do, you walk in and you just say, you want to quit? They go on strike. I won't mention the name of the company,

but they go on strike and you say, that's okay, you're all gone. You're all gone. So every one of you is gone and you are the greatest. You would be very good. Get those union votes. If you look at Arjun... Well, I'd be happy to help out. By the way, congratulations. I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat. We'll call it a chat. But congratulations. This is very good.

I mean, it's great it's and and you're an interesting character you know the new head of a place called Argentina and he was he's a big you know he's great and he's a big MAGA fan you know that he ran on MAGA and he took it to an extreme too he ran on MAGA and I hear he's doing really a terrific job. It's called Make Argentina Great Again. El Salvador's a better model. He bought a lot of hats, he brought over...

Is that what we're doing? Bad advice on El Salvador. But must just volunteer to run the Commission on Government Efficiency. That's huge. He took out 9 out of 10 of the Twitter employees and it works fine. He's proven I don't know if I would say that tonight, but They attacked it he's a maverick no, I think that's great. I think that boosts Selectability to me. He's a Nikola Tesla got past the bureaucrats now

Just give RFK a spot our K jr. a spot on vaccine injuries and we're good. I agree. Let me tell you something. Here's a Nikola Tesla of our time. We're starting to get a little bit of this drunk vibe. I like it. Peeking through. That's the only way that I could handle this.

Yeah. I think it's the only way Alex could handle this. But I mean, this is the thinking thing. This is the thinking, okay, if it is an attack, alright, if it actually was an attack that kept Elon from starting the thing on, that is even worse. It's an even greater indictment of him being a part of the government because, again, in the government, it is a real possibility of attack. So you would want fail-safes, redundancies, etc., etc., etc.

In the same way that it's incredibly predictable that the infrastructure of Twitter would fail when all of these users were trying to come to the same space, if you're of the mindset of people like Alex and Elon and all that shit, it's incredibly predictable that there would be a DDoS attack or whatever. Totally. So you're guilty of the same lack of preparation because you should have seen this coming if everyone's out to get you

and this is such a dangerous conversation. Yeah. And it's the same problem. I do like Owen's kind of no bullshit, like I wouldn't say that on a day like today. I wouldn't say it. There's a frustration that's coming through from him, a drunkenness that's coming through from Alex,

and a boredom from everybody. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I actually am beginning to think that Trump will not make it all the way to the race. I think that they're hoping he doesn't at this point. No, no, no. I think that it's the same thing. I think everybody on there...

So here's what I think happened, right? They all thought Obama was a dictator, so they were like, let's get Trump and he'll be a dictator, but then neither of them actually were dictators, right? And now they're like, oh, they got rid of their old white guy. Maybe we should get rid of our old white guy. But like I said, I don't think that there's any possibility. No backbenchers, nope.

Yep. JD Vance. Please. So one thing that you can say is about the world is that eggs are expensive. I guess. I mean, eggs are pretty expensive. No, they're not as expensive as Alex thinks. Oh, yeah. Five years ago, eggs were $3 a carton. They're like ten. It's crazy I do the law the grocery shop, but I went grocery shop at Sunday. I was like Jesus Christ. Yeah stakes and same to the same deal

I've been my bad things. I have all this money is media lies. I might even I'm just leaving the steak area long in the hamburger I mean these like a cheap steaks like 20 bucks a pound. No, it used to be like $10 eggs like 20 bucks a pound. He used to be like $10. Oh, we got Owen having a few eggs here. He's chugging $400 worth of eggs in this. Are you like Kim waltz? Is that horse semen? I probably couldn't afford this in today's economy. I think that was a dozen eggs. A dozen horse semen. But yeah, man, steak and eggs, the staple of American diet and the Democrats are gonna price you out of it

So a little bit of context there was a fake like Photoshopped news story that people were posting about Tim Walz needing his stomach pumped cuz he Drank a bunch of horse semen what yeah, it was the right-wigs attempt to do a couch fuck Oh, they were okay.igs attempt to do a couch fuck Make a joke and it didn't really work as well now the details are too poor And it's you know that that like stomach pump thing is the schoolyard thing that you it goes back generations Yeah, yeah, sort of rumor. It's it's dumb now if you want to do well, so you have to go old-school Midwest How do you make fun of the coach?

Yeah, this this is what they're playing on and it will become a giant part of the rest of the show Yeah yelling about horse semen. Yeah. Yeah. So get ready for that. Uh-huh. That sucks So inflation is real, but this is fucking stupid. Yeah eggs are not like $10 a carton This is just Alex Failing to move on from the talking points from 2023 when egg prices surged and they became a meme for inflation. The reality there was that inflation was a piece of that puzzle, but the biggest driver was a massive bird flu outbreak that Alex is still pretending wasn't real. Prices hit about $4.75 a dozen in January

2023, and they've dropped back to a normal baseline since, but Alex still wants to use the feelings that those egg memes created in his audience and weaponize them. Stake prices are up largely thanks to record droughts that occurred over the past few years and have raised the price of feed and made people lower their herd sizes. Russia invading Ukraine didn't help either since Ukraine is a grain exporter, but now let's just fucking pretend that this is all Biden or something Yeah, and there's a video of Owen drinking a bunch of eggs. I know like

my entire life I Can't think of a year of consciousness, obviously I don't know what they were saying when I was two or three But I can't think of at least one year at one point in time, somebody wasn't like, things are more expensive now. No, that's definitely true. I mean, it's like that's yeah, yeah, man. There's some validity to, you know, just because of COVID and the aftermath of that, that it

is a little different than times in the past. Sure. But it is a dynamic that is universal, that things are more expensive and we complain about yeah I mean if you want no inflation we return to the barter system Right because inflation is essentially a combination of profit and taxes and they're balancing out in the long run But if you don't want any inflation then it's like for this is worth one fucking chicken Give me a piece of wood and you get a chicken and that's a transaction that system is not not even from inflation though oh that's true you give me that chicken or I'll kill you so anyway let's hear about some

more see you got three tampons up his ass I'm not gonna forget you for the board all right let's get back to Trump. Here we go Came in from Wuhan the Wuhan labs and I always said it and it turned out to be right But had that not had that not happened. We were set to start reducing Debt, by the way, he doesn't really do that But they want to say that JD Vance has sex with couches and wears eyeliner so just we'll just make up whatever we want to the difference is we'll tell you it's a joke I think he does things far worse than I mean look

any got anybody who's wanting to show young boys with the tampons I don't know he goes soft on benefit that's the legislation practice we were gonna drill it we were gonna make so much money. We were gonna supply Europe with oil. I had stopped the Russian by just want to supply Europe with horse salmon with oil and gas. We were gonna, we were gonna make a fortune by buying horse. The COVID came in and new use for stone. We really had to divert. Then what happened? You know, we kept our is late. Folks, we apologize.

We did. We would have had a 1929 type depression. But the problem is when Biden came in, the point is they want to make stuff up. We can make a stuff up way worse. We don't want to. So just keep keep keep playing games. Yeah, keep playing games. So if I'm to understand Alex, he's saying that the left jokes about JD fans fucking

couch. So he gets to joke about Wall's drinking course semen. I guess that makes sense, but where he loses me is the part where he says that the difference is that he'll be honest about how he's joking, but the left won't. That's strange, because it raises the question of if all the stuff he's saying is supposed to be taken seriously, or if it's all a joke, it obviously can't all be a joke. Alex is joking about Wall's having tampons up his ass because it intersects with a political issue that Alex is attacking.

Walls supports accommodation for trans man youth as an actual thing that Alex is very opposed to and the tampon jokes are a way of him expressing that opposition. In the case of JD Vance fucking a couch, there's no policy behind that joke. It's not a way for people on the left to have fun while opposing Vance's policy proposal that people can marry furniture. That actually is just a joke, whereas there's way more behind what Alex is saying than just a joke. When Alex is saying that he can make these jokes because people say that Vance fucked a couch, that's kind of a cowardly stance. He doesn't want to be responsible for his words or for how not funny these jokes are.

That is a problem. This isn't really funny, it's just kind of what Alex does. He talks shit that everyone he doesn't like is a pedophile, he trivializes serious issues in order to use them as a weapon against his political targets. That's not really what happened with Vance. People made a joke that he fucked a couch, then Snopes put out a fact check that he didn't fuck a couch, then had to make an update because they couldn't prove that he hadn't. Right.

It took on some momentum then. And Vance tried to get in on the joke at a rally in Nevada saying of his wife, quote, I would call her up here to come and speak, but then I think I'd have to sleep on the couch tonight, so I'll leave her alone. That's fun. That joke bombed, so people made more fun of him because of it. It's all the total joke handling disaster on Vance's part. And I think maybe Walls doesn't need to bring that joke up himself like he did in a rally,

but it's not that deep. It's just- No, it's funny to deep. It's just not this joke and Alex is trying to pretend that a lot of the bullshit that he does is a joke I would I would go for I would go so far as to say that I believe there are some nights at the Classic cigars and stripes open mic where you had 30 30 young Mike where you had 30 30 young hungry comics go up and all of them have a story about fucking a couch or something in their home that was not a human being I have been to rural Indiana with a friend of the show was on their feet. Oh, pillow me all day, yeah.

So the other thing here too is that like, Alex pretends to be a serious show. Like, God chose him as a kid to fight the literal devil and lead the resistance in this time of globalist upheaval. He's not a shitty roast comic just trying to get a couple punches in. So if we're grading him by the rubric. He's set for himself. This is embarrassing The the horse seaman jokes are beneath God's chosen warrior. Yeah. Yeah, they're bored Everybody's not nobody's on there. Nobody's on comfortable ground

It feels like everybody's kind of on shifting sands not sure quite what to do like these people can't deal with actual jokes They don't know how actual jokes work. They're they're they're insane. I think Alex is pretty comfortable in in as much as he's got some Tito's and you know whatever. What's the point of jokes and you got Tito's. So Trump brought up a COVID in terms of economic stuff in that last clip. And that's all fine. Sure. But when he starts talking about it in terms of medical stuff, we're in trouble. Many more people died during his administration of covid

than during my administration and we really got the brunt of it. Oh God, please don't defend your shots. This is the only downer with Trump. More people died because of the vaccine. He's learned to shut up about it. Just give me a break, Trump. And the cult members like don't criticize him no i'm not a cult I love trump he's pigheaded he wanted but he's wrong

He tried all the therapeutics. They lied to him, but just don't don't tell me how good the shots are just don't African-american He's not doing it. That's great. Hispanic-american were so incredible. And it's like 99% of the deaths happened in hospitals. Yeah, please don't do it, Trump. We'll jump off a cliff here. From MIT, to a giant ocean of horse semen with Tim Walz. I didn't drown in a sea of horse semen with Tim Walz. At least you had plenty of tamponsmen with them all. Everybody was happy.

At least you had plenty of tampons. What? That doesn't make sense. You're about to come on the club and they say, here's your tampons. Well, thank you. I've got my tampons. Feeling nice and safe and secure now. I feel really good and clean.

Biden might need a tampon. Maybe that's the reason. Am I discriminating the men's restrooms here don't have tampons? Actually, I don't know who can I talk to around here because I actually feel like when I walk into the men's room and there's not a healthy supply of tampons that I've been sure of. Well this building is so old, it's an old Microsoft building. I'm being sure. There's tampon dispensers in the women's bathrooms. Well, yeah, and not the men's.

And do you realize how discriminatory that is? Yeah, and I'm actually well, you probably shouldn't admit this on air Alex actually because they're gonna be coming for you now. This discriminatory office. Oh my god, I just committed a felony. So you might notice that they cut the audio of the interview at the end there. They were talking over it and then they just cut away from it. And I think that's because Owen and Alex's bit was really running on on its last legs There was no no gas in that tank and I think and by that I I mean I very much Understand that the reason they were doing this was because they were afraid that Trump was gonna talk about how great the vaccine

Oh, yeah He was absolutely going to talk about how he saved so many lives with the vaccine that they think is a murder vaccine That's killing all of us currently so we better talk over this with a fun horse semen bit and then cut the audio when we realize there's nowhere else for us to go with the joke. Yeah, yeah, I will say that it is unfortunate, but I do feel empathy for being disillusioned by politicians not living up to the standards that you hoped they would.

Sure. It's so interesting to me, though, the way that there's this like, okay, tech didn't work. Right. Shit fucked up. Right. Now it's starting.

Oh no, we're bored. Right. Oh shit. He might say stuff that is really a problem for us. Totally. Let's just talk about Jizz over it. Yep. I just feel like there's the world just needs

to understand like we could just not do it. Yeah. Like we all just be like nope. Mm-hmm. It's a it's a we don't have to be in a world we can create a better future. We could. Yeah. We could just do it. We have to believe that. We could just do it man. So Trump starts talking about oil But they went in and they terminated it and I'll get it going very quickly because Not only is it big for Alaska. I mean you talk about economic development that for the United States I mean that that is they say bigger than Saudi Arabia or the strategic oil supply with a strategic horse semen supply Jesus man than Saudi Arabia or the strategic oil supply. I mean, a strategic horse semen supply. Jesus, man. And you know, they end it.

He's going to drain it like Biden. You know, perhaps you're beating a dead horse's semen. He really knows. Yeah, it's it's incessant. I think one of the reasons I, you know, have some of these clips in here is just to really drive home how much horse semen talk there is. It's a lot. Yeah, it's not good. Now, like, like, you know, one of the fun things about humor

I've always enjoyed Are those little details that you you could you could really only kind of pick up through through just constant repetition? But just the simple the simplest thing a K sound is funnier than an s sound sure like Couchfucker is always going to be funnier than an S sound sure like couch fucker is always going to be funnier than horse semen yeah it's just how it's just how words work man yeah it's just how I mean it's like we it's a weird I'm not saying there's a good reason for it down the craft I'm not gonna do that I'm just saying that that the sound is going to be more fun it's going to be more

responsive than the s out yeah I weird. I think it is interesting, too, because a lot of the jokes that were around Tim, or not Tim, well, it's the JD Vance and the couch. You know, there are things like... JD Vance and the couch is a show I would watch. A slip, a plastic cover on the couch being like a condom, or some riffs on change always being under the Yeah, there's a lot of places you take this relatable stuff

The a to b to c you know you go a to c Alex is going a to like L There's just weird things like jumping off a cliff into horse semen what why why what are you talking about right? Does he do that? It's not good humor. I mean I even I but even then like the problem The problem is ultimately You know I get if we're in the 90s people are like tampons women bleed gross But now it's now it's like oh, I mean tampons are fine. Everybody has it. They're fine Yeah, you can use them for all kinds of stuff. It seems it seems a little

It's just cotton and shit so Elon yeah start talking a little bit about climate change. Oh, that's good, and how it's real That's Is really can't handle that oh, so he has to yell over it and kind of just pretend that this isn't happening My last it would be you know a little more Aggressive than that, but it's not the sort of like, we're all gonna die in five years stuff.

That's obviously BS. But my view is like, if you just look at sort of the posthumillion that increments every year, you get sort of 203 posthumillion every year of CO2. It makes trees grow faster. I think the C hasn't come up. It's bull crap.

Back when like possums weighed 400 pounds and armadillos weighed two tons, CO2 was like 100 times higher. It's good. You want it. We ended up like Mars. Like thank God we found all this. God gave it to us.

A lot of estimates we would be losing the atmosphere right now. It's like right on time we found all this. Yeah, that's what we would be losing the atmosphere right now. It's like right on time. We found all this. Yeah, that's true Tim Walls found something Oh boy, so, you know, there's just inconvenient moments that I feel like Alex would know might come up if he Believed in the real versions of these people existing and he doesn't.

So he's kind of just left to, well, I'll cover this up. I'll yell over this. We'll talk over this. I'll talk about semen over this. Jesus. And then it just becomes like, why even care about what's happening in the interview? Let's just talk. Because they're not saying anything important Yeah, because they're bored and Alex realizes he's got to pick it up

Yeah, you got to get a better solar panel and it's getting there and so I'm all about it on the roof But he's a decentralized government power. I wanted on the top of my house or on the car They were Already got it. I've talked people they were concepting that back in the 90s. They had they had solar powered cars It's like the guy in Brazil got the cure for cancer. They blew his airplane up. Yeah, I mean they got it. Okay They got all of it My dad was like in a government project out of high school in high school and they already had CD ROMs 25 years later out So I mean answers of what a trillion dollar industry for the-

Yeah, they don't want the cures out there. Because these elites stay in power. They're in the way of progress. Instead, we're living less now. And the world population is actually going down now because they're murdering us. Let's go back to Trump. And again, we're gonna go and join Nick Sordor and others

and take ex comments here coming up in a few minutes, but they Trump got on 45 minutes late Because of DDoS attacks Elon said I believe it we're under him all the time all the time We'll be taking your comments coming up back to Trump That sounds bad wow See I guess the elites are keeping this magic technology from everybody, but not Elon Musk, the richest person in the world. And Donald Trump, who is a billionaire, used to be president. Right. Not those people. No, they're not elites. They would have to be in deep with this cover up. Right? I mean, I don't know how the word elite still has meaning to these people.

You know what I mean? It's right in front of their face. That man you called the richest man in the world, that's elite. It's elite territory. Yeah, that's like, man, oh, no, no, no, just cause he's the king doesn't mean he's an elite. No, that is the definition. Yeah. It gets you in that elite club.

The whole thing. Yeah. Ah. Um, so I also would wonder what kind of magic technology Elon has access to and still gets screwed up by a DDoS attack. You know, I think that's the thing that really sucks. The thing that really sucks about this interview isn't that all of these people exist, which does suck. It is that now I know for sure that Elon Musk goes to bed and is like,

Man, I wish I could do blank. Like, you're the richest man in the world and you whine all the time I wish I could help the government eliminate waste. What are you talking about? Buy a buy a country a country will let you buy it probably I bet they would yeah But you know what he can't do is make an interesting fucking interview No, and so Alex just starts rambling about how great Trump is great Let me just say this imagine Kamala on here for hours She would be like repeating the same idiotic stuff

And could not even talk because she's just a talking she's given a script wait She'd say the same things as Trump Trump's meandering all the place like you're actually hearing the real guy like Say what you want about it like this is a real dude like this is not this is not you know No, there's a real conversation. I mean we're basically just listening in the conversation of the most powerful minimum the world Sucks it is trash Call me he's always like how's your family? What's going on? And I'm like I don't want to talk about me Let's talk about I got traders in your ministration. He's like, well, okay, tell me.

But then he kind of gets, okay, I'm taking notes. And I would flip out over it. But he thinks of himself in charge, which is great. He's calling you to make you feel good. It's not even a pat on the head. He's trying to give energy to people. So that's the thing that's free is a leader giving people love.

He sees that as currency that he's printing when he does it. Hundreds of calls a day. And so he would call other foreign leaders and companies and say, bring your jobs here. They would do it because CEOs don't get presidents calling. And then in France said, Hey, we're not going to let your dishwashers in here. Trump said, fine, 100% tariff on wine next week. Oh, great. We'll let your dishwashers in. And suddenly we were doubling dishwasher sales because Europe let it in. It's real simple. They're not working for us. Dishwashers. That's what Trump's explaining. It's so easy.

Like he's like, we'll buy French dishwashers. We'll buy German dishwashers. We'll buy German cars. But none of you don't let us in the market. You know why that clip sucked? It needed Chase. That was Coach McGurk without Brendan. It really did. Talking about fucking French dishwashers and how Trump calls you and asks how your family's doing 100% it's missing its counterpart. You're right. Yeah, you're right There's just no arguing with that. I don't I don't understand how I mean of all the late career Renaissance is that that could happen a two- man act of them just going on the road. And what's fucking tragic is we know that Chase is just in the other room. Right there!

There's a mic somewhere! Oh my god, just, oh you guys gotta know what you've got! You can't have Harrison sitting there. Get rid of Harrison! Uh huh. No, you need Chase to be fascinated. Of course! Chase is interested in what you have to say.

Harrison is bored because he thinks you're not enough of a Nazi. Yeah, and he knows that you're full of shit. Yeah. Chase is at least pretending to not know. Oh my God. So there's a couple stories that Alex is combining here in order to make Trump sound better. Partially, I think is due to the fact that Alex doesn't remember any of this shit anyway. So the first part is dishwashers.

In late 2020, the Trump administration rolled back regulations about water and energy efficiency standards for a newly created category of dishwasher called the fast dishwasher. He had turned niche appliance complaints into a campaign issue. And the idea that dishwashers were caught up in red tape was one of the rallying cries. That you never let those dishwashers, no dishwashers left behind. The Americans deserve to wash dishes. Absolutely.

And the government just won't let them. Education systems on fire, get dishwashers. So as it turns out, this was a problem that really didn't need fixing and dishwashers worked pretty well, even with energy and water efficiency regulations in place. So this was just kind of a non-issue. The second part is France. In late 2019, France was putting a new tax in place that primarily affected tech companies like Facebook and Google. This was a tax that existed for digital companies. So specifically,

it's not something that applied to dishwasher manufacturers. An investigation found that US companies were disproportionately affected by this because most of these companies like Facebook are US based. So in retaliation for them putting in this tax, Trump decided to threaten some giant tariffs against French exports like wine and cheese. Essentially, Trump was using the power of US trade relations with our allies to protect giant tech companies like Google, who Alex believes work for the devil.

Yep. Alex's story doesn't make a lot of sense, but his version of this, this fake version where Trump is like defending the dishwasher industry, it kind of makes him sound better. Well, I think I understand why Alex would go with this, but it's a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would probably go with he's defending the honorable dishwasher from the French as opposed

to he was paid a lot of money by rich people to threaten the French to make them make more money. And the particular rich people that he's talking about are the globalist enemies like Facebook and Google. Exactly. So Trump is on behalf of Alex's enemies threatening trade relations with an ally. And then the other thing was just rambling at campaign rallies about dishwashers. Okay, now I'm going to throw this out there, okay?

Because it's something that I had not considered up until this very moment. Is it possible that we have been laboring under the delusion of a God and devil for all of the human race as opposed to a nationalism based God and devil? Is there the devil of the United States who you would prefer to the devil of France? Do you see what I'm saying? Each country has a devil? That's what I'm saying. Like, oh, sure. The devil you know in a very literal sense. I don't know. I'm having a hard time processing this because...

Any number of reasons? Well, when you were like, are we laboring under the delusion that it's a humanity devil? I was like, I think he's about to say, is there a dishwasher devil? I bet I just kept imagining. Would have been better. Would have been better. A dishwasher with horns. See, this is the problem with extemporaneous speaking. I can't get punch up in the moment, man.

All this fact checking shit, get it out of the way. Give me instant punch up so my bits will be better. And then the dishwasher was opening to say like, a trick. A trick. The dishwasher's tricking you. I don't know how a dishwasher would trick you. How a dishwasher would trick you. It's all clean. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, and they failed. Oh, let's go back to Trump But they've always they always pick a judge and a jury and they use the local DA's They yeah Trump should be talking about his persecution more attorney's shows what an optimist is. He's not talking about himself Well, he's got he's got the classic sense of noblesse oblige right the obligation of the nobles the idea back when you had Nobles was like all right, you get what castle you get to be fed You don't have to work But when the invasion comes it's your ass in the armor with the sword going out and putting your life on the line to defend us. It was an obligation. The nobles got all these privileges.

Exactly. You can be an aristocrat, which means you lead from the front. Right. And so now what people in power now the elite. Say that again in French. Noblesse oblige. Yeah, the Latin. I'm not I don't even know. I think it's Latin. But it's yeah,

it's the obligation of the nobles. It's it's the obligation the nobles are supposed to feel for the people under them because when it was the King of England and he had all the power, if England did well, he did well. It was just, he had no incentive to not to sell out his country. And as soon as they quit doing that, things got corrupt. Yeah, it is French and it's noblesse oblige. And it's generally an idea that is looked upon by history as bullshit. What?

Do you mean this concept of noblesse obligé while owning human lives is not necessarily the case? It generally was a way that like the nobles would justify the abuse that they enacted on the people below them. Because it would be worse for them if they weren't such good people. They would be being abused by bad people. Exactly. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a situation that thankfully we never find ourselves in ever again after that. It's so fucking funny to hear Harrison being like, you know Trump's got noblesse obligé. That should have gotten him. See, see, this is nice. This is nice, because I like having proof that the Christian God isn't real. Because that's a lightning bolt. That's a lightning bolt.

It's basically a peasant being like, I'm glad that this feudal lord is a good guy. Yeah, yeah! But a peasant who has spent his entire life being like, we need to get rid of all feudal lords. Yeah, but this one would totally get my back. See, again, lightning bolt.

That is, if there was a god, lightning bolt. This feudal lord is so good. Nope. If the situation came up, he would defend me. You have to fucking convert to Shintoism. That is what has to happen because what you believe in is wrong. This is what happens when you get really bored. Yeah, I bet. So Alex is a little bored when the topic of Israel comes up. Sure. He is so anti-Israel and she's bad for both. Biden actually did something that was impossible. Both sides hate him.

You know, both sides. That was a hard thing to do. Unification. Yeah, no, no, I mean... Folks, we already have cancer cures. We already have free energy. Get out of the way, Obama. Get out of the way, Rockefeller.

Move, bitch. Get out the way. Get out the way, bitch. Move out the way. But he's black. Oh, he's cool. Hey, how you doing? It's all bullshit. Get out the way bitch move out the way This is very sad Relying on the the ludicrous song again David Rockefeller's dead Obama's not president. I don't know man. This is just gotta update your game new Yeah, I mean look it's a it's the end of a long day. I understand, but this is just grim. Yeah. So Alex begins to get a little pissed off at himself.

But not really at himself. I understand him myself. I misspoke. Well. I mean- It's subconsciously at himself. I think so. Yeah.

The Biden thing is very interesting. People just found him to be incompetent. And when I debated him, I was like, is this for real? It was? Yeah, it was just absurd. But you know, I think there are like, you know, some some, you know, grand projects that we could do. I mean, I think, like, yeah, grand projects, we could build a base on the moon, we could send either new pyramids, large, big, big projects, we could build a base on the moon. We could send the pyramids. Mars, we're going to get a grand project. I just want that. Connected.

You know, more advanced than the world between our space cost money. What are you talking about? It's unlimited money. It's what we want to do. It creates jobs like all let's kill old people. No, you take care of them. It creates jobs. It doesn't cost you.

The pie is unlimited. It's a non zero sum game. Jesus Christ. So easy to understand this. I'm really getting pissed. Who? I mean, do you want giant public works projects to create pyramids and get us to the moon and take care of the elderly? No, you don't want that. That's antithetical to your belief system. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What are you talking about?

Yeah. You just want... What? I don't know. But he's mad. I think that's what it is, right? They can't say what they want because if they say what they say they want they realize that it's evil Well, it's the other side right they they exactly dreaded communism that they've been I scream about

I want the stuff that I want without having to deal with you guys who say I can't like I want yes I want your socialist utopia But I also want to call people the N-word. If you allow me to do one, I'll let you have the other one." And it's like, that's not how it works, man. That's not how any of this works. It's an illusion of an offer anyway. No, it's bullshit.

So Trump talks about how he had a big plan and that was the right to try. And so that's like, if you want to try ivermectin if you're sick go for it sure do it who cares oh okay so like un un un approved drugs by the FDA you can still like hey as long as you know what you're getting into fuck it yeah yeah go for it who gives a shit you can't trust anybody Alex is in favor of that. Right. Now this is a big problem. Because listen to the way that Trump describes this. Okay. And then I'll explain why Alex needs to be mad.

People would go to other countries because you couldn't use this product, even if they thought it worked, because it's going through the FDA. I got it approved where you can basically, you look, nobody wanted it. The doctors didn't want it because of the liability. The country didn't want it, our country, because they didn't want to get sued. These are people terminally ill. The insurance companies didn't want it,

and the pharmaceutical companies, nobody wanted it. I got everybody into a room, and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued. And also, they didn't want it on their record. If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record. If somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on their record. So we set a second, a separate list of somebody was so it wouldn't count as the negative. Okay.

And as you know, we got it done. We have saved right to try. They've been trying to get all great. Trump's all about solutions, but he's not exposing the Democrats. Okay. So this is exactly the problem that Alex has with like vaccine liability protection. This is the exact same issue with the insurance companies and people won't take any risk even if it is potentially in the public good and that's why the government needs to have these things.

It's so evil for the vaccine stuff but apparently not for Trump. Hey, we're not gonna sue you. I mean. You have liability protection for your ivermectin. It is so funny to listen to that clip from their points of view, all mixed in together. Because it is like, every little detail about all of that story can be traced back to all the problems, You know, like,

yeah, it makes sense if you have all of these insurance companies and all of these people and all that stuff and they're just like, well, I don't care if these people live or die because it's just going to cost us more money. So if you find a way to make these people live or die and cost us no money, then fine. Sure. You know, like it's not complicated for them. Yeah, I agree. And this can be a sort of, I think, a social good and a social bad. Sure. Circumstantially, it's complicated. But what's not complicated is that Alex should be opposed to this. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

I think that he doesn't conceptually understand his own beliefs. Of course he doesn't. Because if you did have the problem that Alex professes to have with vaccine protections and stuff, he should hear this and be like, this is fucking evil. They're covering up death all over the place. Right.

He should have the exact same problem, but he doesn't. Yeah, I mean. He doesn't give exact same problem but he doesn't. Yeah. I mean. He doesn't give a shit. But he spent the last 30 years of his life having no beliefs but reactionary beliefs. You know, like, what is going on and then I respond to it. Like, so now, so he's had that luxury but now it feels like he's gonna have to rely on his own belief system if he wants to move forward, I guess, because he's been abandoned by everybody who would who would think he's trashed his ability to do that. Exactly. And he doesn't nothing here. And he doesn't even know what

his belief system is, because he's so unused. He's so used to reaching out for a reaction. He's never had to like find something within. If that makes sense. The crisis that comes from watching Elon and Trump talk is deep. I actually I mean honestly it does make me a little bit frustrated with the with the media for the past my entire life is like maybe realistically they should have just all broadcast Trump unvarnished unfiltered and unedited for as long as he wants to go because eventually no human being will not get to a point where they go, oh, this is stupid. You'll get bored. You'll get bored.

Yeah. We promise you'll get bored. So Alex is low on energy because the night is wearing on and they started late. And meanwhile, New York's spending massive resources prosecuting you. And it's like, what this? You know, yeah, let's talk about the prosecution of Trump. Yeah, let's get on the offense here a little bit. So it looks at this and says, what the heck's going on?

Job, you know, this is obviously abuse the legal system. You know, the legal system is supposed to be. By the way, screw everybody's been attacking on man. I mean, he's been attacking on This is not such Fuck everybody is He's cool. Oh my god. He's cool. I like this guy. Fuck you. If you don't like a map I like the idea I like the idea that he and I can have the same... Like, here's what I could say. Elon Musk is a person who takes on too many tasks at the same time,

and thus cannot complete any of them with efficiency or quality. And Alex would be like, Fuck you! You hate him! Now, admittedly, Elon is a person who takes on too many tasks at the same time. Yeah, if you need it as an excuse. But that's not criticism. Right. It's an excuse or a criticism. Who, if you need it as an excuse. But that's not a criticism. Right. It's an excuse or a criticism.

I'm not saying he shouldn't do it. Who knows? I'm not saying he shouldn't do that. I'm saying that that is a good thing he does, which is why he fails, which is what... Wait, what? Hmm. Fuck you. There we go.

So, Elon Musk says this, and I think this could be trouble. I'm just trying to tell people my honest opinion and and I haven't been active and really active in politics before And I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate if not moderate slightly left and and So this is to people out there who are in the moderate camp to say I think you should support Donald Trump for president I think you should support Donald Trump for president. And I think it's actually a very important junction in the road and we're in deep trouble if it goes the other way. Well, I want to thank you.

So you remember back at the beginning of this, Elon was saying that, you know, I'm just having to catch some vibes here, you know, on decided voters. Maybe you can see what Trump is really like and make up your mind. No. No. No. Fuck you can see what Trump is really like and make up your mind. No, no, no Fuck you. That was bullshit. You knew that was bullshit and you were pretending that in order to Eventually get to this point. This was the goal all along You're trying to sell Trump on people and this seems illegal Or at very least this seems like a huge campaign contribution that Elon is making to Trump and it might get him in trouble with the FEC.

Elon owns this platform, he's doing a giant livestream with a guy who's running for president and expressly says at the end that his intention in doing this stream is to convince people to vote for Trump. This is less of an interview than it is a promotional appearance. So anyway, this group and Citizens United, they filed a complaint to the FEC alleging that this was an in-kind contribution, and that could be a problem. Sure. Their case argues that fixing the technical glitches during the stream constitutes a corporate contribution on the part of Twitter, which they argue does not qualify as a press entity for the purposes of this interview. This is a venue where the owner of the company is repeatedly and explicitly advocating for

his viewers to vote for a specific candidate, and he's devoting the resources and personnel of his company to facilitate the spreading of that message. At very least, this is deeply corrupt in a way that Alex should have a real problem with. Yeah. He used to complain all the time about how Twitter had a left-leaning bias, and nothing that happened back then was even close to this extreme. Yeah. This is comically election meddling or whatever, if Alex's standards mean anything.

Uh, yeah, yep. I mean, I say this. Yeah. More of this election meddling. I don't think this is going to meddle the way that they wanted to go No, I think this might have been a little bit of a dud. I appreciate this type of corruption I think if anything this probably deflates a little bit of Trump's mystique among some of his fans man

But I do think it'd be really really really funny if Musk gets in trouble for this I know it I mean it is it is fascinating. It is so fascinating because like When Trump is not packaged by their enemy Right when pack when Trump is packaged by their hero Elon Musk He sucks can't blame Elon Musk for Trump sucking right or when he's at the RNC and he goes on for like two fucking hours like it is what it is he is in charge this is no lights behind him this is who he is yes sucks yes oh well so Alex has checked the fuck out yeah towards the

end of this call this this was a great moment in bullying history. You're going to love this. It's a pretty good interview, though. I get my A-plus now. Well, again, I think this interview is more towards fence sitters, undecided voters, moderates. That's where this interview. And it scared the left.

They tried to stop it. The Harris campaign is already in panic mode, demanding people donate to her. So yes, absolutely. Which is why are they so scared, Harrison? Well, you know, the way they're framing it is Elon, the richest man in the world, is doing what he can to control America. I mean, it's all absurd ridiculousness. But you know, even just going back to the conversation about Musk and and people sort of in gratitude for what he's done

I just know like the crap we go through here and then you know, we're fine with it's fine We'll go through it We'll deal with all the crap that we're given that we don't even talk about on air But the stuff that you know about is is bad enough already And then you go on Twitter and people are calling you a shill and saying and you sit there and go Why am I going through all this for these, you know for people that don't even appreciate it but if you give up we lose it all let me exactly yeah no it's like are the famous American psycho glasses that's right David crash junior look at this I

like these I got pretty bad eyesight don't I they're the real deal I'm gonna fishbowl I like oh my god oh that is There is a poetry whoo in that moment Because Harrison is complaining about how people don't appreciate him enough, and he is fighting for everyone and that is totally fine But then there's such ingrates showing up online and saying you're a shill in the middle of it Alex takes his glasses I I your glasses nerd. I think I would have to fight The that power dynamic is so that's too far out of whack that's too far Yeah, you can't allow somebody to just take your glasses man. Come on, especially when you're talking about how to appreciate you weird science what is happening what is fucking going on it's good it's good man also you might notice Alex has given Trump an

a-plus now yeah he's drunk enough not to remember what the beginning as an excuse to keep drinking this one bed. Give me your glasses. Yep. Jesus Christ You can't let a man take your glass stand up for yourself Harrison Smith I don't want you to stand up for yourself and I'm saying stand up for yourself. Yeah, it's It's hard to watch so This ends. Yeah, the stream itself ends. Yes, and I'm like, ooh good Alex gotta go to bed merciful He's he's in tough shape Yeah, but he jumps on the stream with Mario na fall

And I thought that this was Because he tries to take over the stream of course he just interrupts everybody is holding court But then the most magic moment happens. Okay fake Elon Musk shows God what is any of this real? Are you making all of this up? I didn't watch the video I'm not on Twitter is any of this real is all of this in this room only Alex I Wait. Adrian Dittman and Alex. If you record all of these clips by yourself with a team of voice actors, that would make as much sense to me as this.

Listen to this. Oh my God. And even now, you know, the content cycle is not finished. It's barely begun. People are going to now clip to space, share it far and wide. There's probably going to be billions of impressions that will be generated.

No, you're right. You're right, Adrian. I'll shut up and I want you to speak, but you're right. This was a mega digital rally. The biggest thing Trump's done basically ever. Can you speak to that? Yeah, I mean, this is going to be felt everywhere because the more people are actually posting about this, now you'll see a next level shift in the algorithm because the algorithm is always just controlled by the people for what they want to see. This is amazing.

Alex still kind of thinks this guy is Elon Musk. So in Alex's mind, what he has to believe in order for this not just to be a weirdo who sounds like Elon Musk, he has to believe that Elon Musk got done doing this interview with Trump, then jumped onto Mario Nafal's stream on his burner account and is now talking to Alex about how big the interview that he just did is.

So that's psychotic if that's what happened. Everybody involved with everything that is going on in all of these conversations is out of their minds. Yeah. Everything that is going on in all of these conversations is out of their minds. Yeah, like There are you I don't know. I don't know how I don't know what to say like Get a job Or quit your job if you're here, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I worked I worked coupons I sold hearing aids I've done all I've done all kinds of stuff.

Do one of those jobs if you start saying crazy shit like this. I think if you were working at one of those office jobs and your boss took your glasses, I think you could sue him, right? I mean, it's probably assault. I mean, I've been fired from every test, so I don't know. So we have one last clip here. I think it just demonstrates how desperate Alex is to talk to Adrian Dittman, the guy who sounds like Elon Musk.

Because it's got to be real or not real. We can't exist in this liminal state of before the wave function collapses. We need to know. So he's on this stream with these other guys and he's like, I want to talk to Adrian Dittman. Tell me it's him or not. The Post got like three million views now where a Washington Post reporter literally asked the press secretary if the Biden regime could intervene and stop Trump's interview with Elon Musk on X.

Now they've gotten to the point where they're ballsy enough to say this publicly, knowing that this is going to be broadcasted, please? Sure, sure, let me be clear. I did see it. I wouldn't say they're desperate, not ballsy. So they threatened Elon Musk today with the EU sanctions and they so that's not a sign of strength. Why would they be scared of Elon Musk talking to Trump? Let me ask Adrian that or ask all your viewers. I

can get my answer but that is not a sign of strength. Adrian Dittman. Does that sound like strength? They want to arrest Elon Musk for interviewing Trump. Are we in a free country? Well, I don't know if Adrian heard that or not, but let's go to Kyle. You want to take that one? Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah, Kyle. Come on like Kyle

I Find this so great. There's something so amazing about this like just spiritually The the way that they were looking forward to this so much. Yeah And how much of a letdown it is for Alex very clearly from early on? Right away right away and then progressively the disappointment leading to him needing to censor shit Essentially or else who was gonna get into territory that he didn't even want to didn't want to deal with yeah And then fake Elon Musk sort of being the little cherry on top, it's just, there's something about this.

You know, it is, it is, maybe it's just, it's genuinely, maybe it's just the fallacy of like pot committed, you know, like everybody, a huge argument was like, Oh no, we got to stick with Biden because and they're very reasonable, blah, blah, blah, but then once everybody realized that we're not pot committed, everybody felt a lot better. They were like, oh, well we can just do a different thing. Like these people do not believe that they can do

a different thing. Right. And I think that the reality of pot committed is it's always sort of true, but it's also sort of not. Right. You're always going to have to fight your way. It's not like you can just walk away. Right. You have to fight your way out. You are likely going to be in a disadvantageous situation. You've put a lot of chips into this pot and you walk away from it. You're starting from a lesser position. Exactly. That happens. And that is true of Alex. It

remains to be seen much in the same way as was the case with Biden. Sure. It remains to be seen if you can take that chip in a chair, as they say in the poker world, and come back. It's possible. Anyone can do it. Are your chips enough? Will you alienate too much of your audience? Right. And I think that Alex has a reason to be scared about that Yeah, I mean I I mean it's interesting because I wonder I wonder how much is like People very fervently arguing positions that they really wish they didn't have to mm-hmm. You know what I mean like You have to because it's the internet and because it's 2024 everybody has been like I believe, Oh, I believe that, you know, like that kind of thing. But like a lot of people don't believe it that strongly.

Right. You know, as Alex. Yeah. But he says that like God chose him as a kid to do this. You can't like if Kamala Harris, before Biden had stepped down, was like as a child, God chose me to make sure that Biden doesn't drop out. Yeah. I'm not going to listen to her now. No, but she didn't say that. No, she did not. Alex says that shit about the nonsense that he puts out, which is why he might be more

pot-committed than a lot of other people. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, maybe maybe that's the maybe that's the thing, right? The illusion for everybody with Biden was that you were pot committed, right? Because that wasn't real. They're pot committed to the illusion. They cannot pivot to something real.

Because reality is their enemy in all aspects, I guess. Right? They don't have a good next hand. They're just married to illusion like I I mean honestly This is very hard the episode we just did I find it hard to believe is happen. It happened me too in multiple Instances. Yeah, like it feels it feels fake because it doesn't feel like this could be reasonably done by human beings

Well the the starting point of what's it like to get shot my ear has a lot of blood I'm out to the end point being Fake Elon Musk Alex desperately seeking his approval. Yeah, like yeah, of course all that shit is surreal Yeah It could easily be in a comedy scene Where are any of you? Where are you? And not enough chase.

Not enough chase. Because that's what makes it really funny. Jesus Christ. So anyway, we'll be back for another episode. This happened and I think Alex, the sooner he realizes he needs to re not be pot committed Yeah, the better for him for everybody terms of his future for everybody. This is a disaster. This is horrific But we'll be back till then we have another we have a website. We do it's knowledgefight.com. Yep We'll be back but until then I'm neo neo and easy ex-clerk. I am the mysterious professor And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you.