Knowledge Fight - #958: More Like Jimmy Bore, Revisited

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex's appearance on Jimmy Dore's live show from the DNC.

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Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? When you go first? Oh, well my bright spot Dan is gonna it was going to be

Tennis because the US Open starts tomorrow sure or today when you're listening to this so much tennis. It's so much. It's such great It's gonna much. It's such great It's gonna be great. Yeah Uh, but I haven't spoken at all this year. I think about shohei otani sure and The man the man Is a god He is not a man. He is at baseball. He's transcended I mean, there's no words anymore for anything that's ever happened in the sport. Yeah, that is like this. This has never happened. It

can't happen. What's going on with that translator? I haven't kept up with that story. Oh, I believe he's just in jail now. Okay. I believe he's just in regular old prison. So he's just doing all the whoops. You had a serious gambling addiction and you ruined your life and it wasn't no Tony's fault. No, of course not. No, good. Good. So funny. You navigated that scandal. I mean, it's just, and that's another part of it is like, he's the only person who is like, yeah, he's too busy hitting a ball and throwing it and throwing it. But now here's the thing right can't throw the ball Oh, I can't throw the ball. This is not a pitcher. This is not a pitcher this year

He's just a designated hitter. All he does is go up to bat and then hit And he is going to probably win the National League MVP Because he's the most valuable player who's only doing one thing Because he's the most valuable player who's only doing one thing And he's also the best at the other thing that he does but but he's just doing this thing this year And he's still gonna win the MVP without doing that other thing. I mean, it's it's pretty remarkable. He's doing things He's good at the thing. He's doing so he's he just reached 40 home runs and 40 stolen bases Whoo, and that is for the best pitcher in the league 40 home runs and 40 stolen bases. Quite a few.

And he's gonna probably end the year maybe 50-50 the only baseball player in history ever to do that. So are we, is he on the juice? No! Are people suspecting this? Nope, nope. No? He is and I this, quite possibly the devil. Because if I was the devil, I would have gotten sick of all this sin and backroom deals and all that shit.

I would have been like, hey, I sold that guy's soul and now he's really good at the guitar. What if I just played baseball? I tried to get into fiddle contest See yeah, I did the whole thing but I find myself Individual sport as long as you're a designated hitter exactly or a pitcher see that's what I'm saying Yeah, it's not it's a team sport in other context in all other contexts except for the ones that the devil would be interested in And you'd play in LA. Yeah, he's in LA right? Yeah, okay He was in the LA for the Angels, and then he would play in LA. Ah. He's in LA, right? Yeah.

He was in LA for the Angels, and then he's in LA for the Dodgers. Of course the devil lives in LA. Right. It all makes sense. I think he is the devil. Okay. Yep. I'll buy it.

Yep. What's your bright spot? I don't watch a lot of baseball, so I'll accept your premise. To sum up, my bright spot is that the devil plays baseball. What's your bright spot? And he's your favorite player. So my bright spot, as promised, plays baseball. What's your right? So my bright spot as promised yes, it's time to talk about the challenge hell yeah that you have watched last week's episode

Spoiler alert. Oh my god. What an episode so great a lot of shit going on. Yep I don't know. I don't know if I actually want this to be my bright spot, but I enjoyed the I enjoyed it It was just a great and get to talk about it now and we teased it at the beginning It's just sad to see Leroy go first. Yeah, I saw that coming a mile away Leroy's actually not good at things. I think he's a very attractive man Well-built got all those muscles and stuff seems like he's a he's got a great personality. He's such an awesome dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a great character on the show. Great father, I'm sure.

All of that stuff. Not very coordinated. Just not a hand-eye coordination guy. I believe that some of my preseason picks that I was enjoying and interested in seeing how they played out included Leroy and Noree, so they're both gone. They're both gone immediately.

I have to rethink everything about how I'm approaching this season. Yeah, I miss Ed from Philly totally I get you That is great It's good that Nereese is gone As much as I love Nereese but I think Or it would have been good if Horacio was gone the The two of them together on the show, not good. You weren't interested in seeing a love story blossom. Ah, sick of their making out all the goddamn time.

They're free of each other talking about babies and now one of them can be a challenge monster. Exactly. And destroy everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the other one can cheat like they're going to do so they don't have to worry about it later on in two years whenever they've, you know. They're a challenge relationship.

Cheat. So we got, we got all the classics. Yep. We got a pole wrestle. We got a hall brawl. Oh yeah. That was, that was one of the more embarrassing hall brawls in the history of hall brawls. What was happening when Olivia just decided to go back?

I don't know. That was crazy. But I was watching it and I was thinking to myself, so the hall brawl for those who have not watched the challenge is a hallway, an artificially created hallway. We're supposed to run at each other and then one person comes out the other side and hits a bell and you get a point.

Do you think they practice this? Like, cause it's a classic game on the challenge. That's a good question. Do you think like at home or at their gym, they have like a hall where they run down it? I wanna ask you this question, all right? Do you think they practice any of these games? You know like, cause American Ninja Warrior people

build the whole course in their backyards and stuff. Yeah, and now like on Survivor, it's becoming more common for people to 3D print the types of puzzles they use. Crazy. Yeah, so like, do you have a fake hallway you get used to running down? Because I think that it's,

I think it's hard to run into somebody in a hallway. Sure. And I think it's also just hard to run down a hallway. Sure. You're not used to going that much of a straight line and gathering momentum. I think it would be tough. I think they must practice.

Yeah, well, I mean, I remember, because I played football when I was in the being a child years. And yeah, that was just like a regular thing that we did as a drill. Just run at each other and hit each other. And that's why my neck is great. But not in a hallway. No, hallway no no no not in a hallway although it was in some ways a mental hallway sure I mean you had the sled

that you'd like run in sure sure but this was for another person don't have a hallway no no anyway excited for this season and what it what it may hold yeah so I'm not excited about this episode great I made a big mistake oh no yeah what did we do what do you mean starting the show no we're way we're years late on that one yeah it's too late yeah but what I what I have prepared for us today is a mistake okay Jimmy Dore had God damn it anyway we'll talk about that but before you let's say hello to some new walks okay so first I'm rusty

I'm Audrey. I'm DZX Clark W Griswold. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. Oh next Alex B. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. Thank you next Dan Levin. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much and Clyde the wild ride. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much. Thank you, and Wild Ride, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mixture.

And so thank you so much to Drew Money 420 says, happy birthday Jimbo. Hope you stay sick as hell on account of that woke mind virus. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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So Jimmy Dore was, we've talked about him a little bit in the past. Sure. Alex was on his show and it was embarrassing and a disaster. And he was in town in Chicago for the DNC and he did a live show. Oh my god. Yeah, he did a live show. And it was called the, what is it, Rumble Time with Jimmy. Oh my god.

Because it's on Rumble. And his first guest was Alex. He used to be a comic, you know? He was. Rumble time with Jimmy. Oh my god Because it's on rumble And his first guest was Alex. He used to be a comic, you know He was he used to just do stand-up comedy. We're gonna get some good comedy on this. I disagree. We are we're good This is a celerity. I I was um not really Prepared for what I saw. Yeah I think I might give him and his world a little more credit than they deserve Yeah, that probably sounds right. I think it it's a bit. It's a bit more

Overtly like just using right-wing talking points than I realized right It's pandery in a way that I thought maybe he Because I don't watch a ton of his show. I thought maybe he was above that a little bit. Yeah. But nah, I don't think so. So the panel is Jimmy, he's hosting. Steph Zamorano, the miserable liberal, as she calls herself. Ross Dobbular, who I have no idea who he is.

I've never heard of that. Mike McCray, I have no idea who that is. But one of them is an impressionist. Okay. I know that. But you'll never know which one because we don't have the video might be doing it fresh exactly they could be one guy and then there's Kurt Metzger of course sure comedian Kurt Metzger Jimmy introduces

as Kurt Mexican and he's wearing a LGBT CIA shirt which was my first like okay this is no good Jesus Jesus Christ. Yeah. T-shirt based humor should just disappear. If it's a good joke, I'll give it a pass. But this is, that is a message. In real life, perhaps. But on a stage, you're making the choice to inflict that upon others. And I find it disgusting.

So yeah, his show, it's at Live Chicago. And it's interesting because this title, Rumble Time with Jimmy Dore, it would suggest that maybe this is going to be a rumble. Like he's going to specifically have guests on that he would have a fight with and that's where the entertainment is going to come from. But he gets along great with Alex. They've been on each other's show and Jimmy's such a dopey idiot that he just lets Alex lie to his face regularly.

Doesn't matter. The name Rumble Time is not actually about fighting or conflict or ideas or anything. It's promotion for the streaming platform Rumble, which I suspect he has some sort of a deal with. I get that Rumble is supposed to be this like outsider platform and all that, but it still comes off kind of loser-y to name your show after it. Like the NBC NewsHour is named after NBC and that's fine because it's the network that's running it. But presumably the, with Jimmy, the point is supposed because it's the network that's running it. But presumably

the, with Jimmy, the point is supposed to be that the network isn't running this show and yet it's called Rumble Time. And this seems desperate. This seems like desperate behavior. It's like calling your show, your YouTube show, YouTube time. Yeah. I mean, I was going to debut my new show. I hope Elon Musk likes me time, but apparently that's a loser thing to do. Sure. I think some people have more or less called their shows that.

Yeah, I think you're right. So that's where we're at. We're at Rumble Time. We're at Rumble Time. Yeah. And Alex is going to make an appearance. Okay. Okay, we're about 30 seconds away from starting. Should we just fucking start?

Oh, Alex Jones will be here in about 10 minutes. So he's coming in on the zoom. He's coming in on the zoom. How's it going? Mike dude impression. Hey, you were supposed to introduce me as Jeff Bridges. I was? Yeah. No one told me that. I forgot to tell you. Okay, we'll do a rambling introduction. Boo!

Yes. Boo! Hey. You know this guy, man. He's cool. So Jeff Bridges was on that White dudes for Kamala Harris call the fundraising call That's why they're making fun of him. Okay, cuz otherwise, I don't know why Jeff Bridges would be relevant I I no longer understand any references that these people make and I don't think that this guy has a good Joseph Gordon

Levitt or Josh Gad who are also on those calls. I don't know if he does a good impression of them But you got Jeff Bridges, but he's the dude I mean, I bet he can't sing I've strongly doubt this guy has a has the gad voice. I Don't know a lot about gad. He does musicals. He's got a Fucking diamond in those in those pipes. All right. Yeah, good to know. Maybe I'll have to check out some of his moves You'll be fine. Yeah, good to know maybe I'll have to check out some of his moves. You'll be fine. Okay, so This is a kind of like I get the instinct of like a Alex will be here in ten minutes sure sure sure sure sure But it feels like giving that to the crowd pretty early of we've got we've got this guy coming on who's exciting

Yeah, I don't know. Mm-hmm feels Unconfident mm-hmm so we start off and Jimmy's Jimmy's basically doing a little bit of like a monologue up top Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's a live show Rumble timing right we're on Okay. All right. I got a thumbs up from Roy. Fantastic. Hey, hello, Chicago. Welcome to the first rubble time That's hot. It's already a party, we're having a great time. We already talked to a guy with cancer. We're here in Chicago where according to Democrats

the violent crime is declining. We were supposed to have another guy on the panel but he got shot on the way over. So that's pretty classic late night monologue structure for a joke. You know, nothing wrong with that. Nothing too edgy or ambitious, but it follows the way you introduce a concept, then negate it in a slightly unexpected way. Saying someone on the panel couldn't make it because they got shot isn't the most unexpected twist, but at least it's the territory of how a comic would write a joke.

The goal of a monologue joke like this is to lampoon what's being passed off as a sincere message. Like back when Domino's was saying, ah, we fucked up, our pizza's better now. You might go on stage and say something like, they made their pizza better. They say that, but I called and ordered a large pepperoni. And you know what showed up? A medium pie, no pepperoni, but a live Pelican. You're creating a bizarre image to delight the audience and the point behind what you're saying is that they didn't make the pizza better. They're telling you they did, but it's a premise that you just blindly accept because of marketing. In this case though, the point Jimmy's trying to make is kind of not really true, which is that

it's a lie that crime is down in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, no, it's down. I'm not sure what Democrats Jimmy is citing who are saying that violent crime is down, but the reality of this is actually a pretty complicated question. Data analyzed by the University of Chicago Crime Lab clearly shows that homicide is down year over year from 2021 to 22 to 23, and that non-fatal shootings have followed the same trajectory. If you look at broader data from the Chicago Police Department statistics, you can see

that there is an increase in aggravated batteries and thefts, 10% and 6% respectively at the time I'm preparing this episode, and these represent challenges. But the rhetoric of there's crime everywhere is aimed at appealing to the law and order type policies, which have a long history of trending toward right-wing interests and initiatives that lead that direction. We can look at the numbers and say that our approach to policing isn't necessarily working, and that's a fine position to hold. But the big attack about Chicago is that everyone's getting shot and killed.

And Jimmy's joke is specifically that a member of the panel got shot, which is a crime that's down. So the premise is flawed. I mean, you know, it's hard to write a good joke about people getting shot. I suppose maybe if you were to punch up at like the cops, doing what, like 25% of the shootings? But I think 25% of the That is supposed to be underneath it Yeah, I think there is I mean obviously it's supposed to be a criticism of the the system

Not the people who are shooting people I guess I think it might funnier if you call them Democryps sure Yeah, well they do do it Jesse Impression always funnier always funnier to call them Democrats I think every Republicans I think that you're supposed to understand this as And it like criticism of the system sure but the whole like Chicago is dangerous and full of crime thing is a bit lazy And it's the it's the framing of the joke is leading it in an intentional direction And that is

towards right-wing ideas about increased policing as opposed to different strategies and approaches towards policing that maybe would be more effective. I'm interested in that guy. That guy who's really wanting to be the guy screaming, oh, is it that guy? That might have been Metzger. I'm not sure. I was going to say. Actual crime rates don't reflect how people feel about what crime rates are.

Consistently studies have shown that people overestimate the amount of crime that happens, generally because the news reports crimes and doesn't report a crime not happening. Our perceptions have an underlying bias towards assuming more crime, regardless of what's actually happening. Jimmy is playing into reassuring that bias instead of challenging it, which I feel is antithetical to the image that you want to cultivate as a firebrand truth teller. Sure. And so I just, I feel like the construction of this is meant in a way to Exacerbate the feelings that lead towards right-wing views of policing. Yeah as opposed to the alternative

Sure, I think you could tweak this joke in a way to make it What is it more anti-authority thing? But sure I don't think it works. No No, but you know, it's like He's clearly got an audience that is already in on the joke and you know in ultimate really they're just in on the rhythm of his language. Like it could have been anything. Blah da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. I think that they're more in on the right winginess of it than I realize.

Yeah I think you're right. And hearing the audience respond the way they do to the things that Jimmy's saying, and the things that Jimmy's saying, made me realize like, oh, there's a whole lot of just the same right wing grievance kind of based shit. So here he expands on this shooting thing. Okay.

You know, the Secret Service is in town this week. They have their work cut out for them this week because when a shooting starts, they have to figure out if it's an assassination attempt or just a robbery or a carjacking or a gang war or a migrant squatter. So the inclusion of migrant squatter at the end of this list should tell you all you really need to know about how Jimmy is on board with the right wing anti-immigrant hysteria. Putting that as the tag at the end of this list is a choice that's right at home on Rumble. Now that list of crimes he mentions are assassination attempt, robbery, carjacking, gang war, and

migrant squatter. A migrant squatter isn't necessarily a crime, and robberies and carjackings don't necessarily include guns, but okay, we can work with this list. I'm not sure how many gang wars there have been in the past year, since I don't think that's a statistic that's well kept, but robbery and motor vehicle theft are actually two of the categories where the rates have gone down in 2024. The last assassination attempt happened in rural Pennsylvania. Two of these crime categories have gone down

One is the plot of the Warriors and the other is not a crime. So like he's pandering This is pandering to the rumble audience. Yeah. Yeah because any bit about the Secret Service is Going to have to wind up with counterfeiting Like that's the joke of the Secret Service is the inexplicability of them being tasked with protecting the President and also being like, hey, who's making fake money over here? You know, like that's where your bit goes, not like, because why would the Secret Service give a shit about carjacking? Well, I mean, in terms of the counterfeiting, it makes total sense.

Presidents are on money. Oh, that is a good point. You got to protect the President at all costs. Right. It makes total sense. I don't know why you're confused. that is a good point. You got to protect the president at all costs. Right. It makes total sense. I don't know why you're confused. That's a good point. But Jimmy's construction of the joke is stupid and kind of belies a little bit of...

It's not funny. That's not a funny joke construction that breaks the rule of threes. The fifth tag is the worst one because it doesn't even make any sense. And the audience clearly was trying to laugh after the fourth one. Yeah. I mean, they started hot. Yeah. Like you could hear, at the beginning of the show, the audience is on board and ready for everything.

Yeah. So that response is probably a little bit lukewarm. On your second bit! Yeah, that's not good. So Nancy Pelosi, right? Sure. Here's a bit about her. Shit on her desk, let's go.

I don't know if this is true, but I heard if Biden wasn't going to drop out that Nancy Pelosi threatened to 25th Amendment him and she was going to switch out his doctors with Matthew Perry's doctors. I don't know if you heard that. I started moving up a hammer. Matthew Perry had a great life. He packs a lot of fun into those, whatever, 35 years. What the fuck is happening?

35? He looked horrible. I just thought he looked bad for no reason. Matthew Perry had a really public struggle with drug addiction through his career. He was 54 years old when he died. And the story that Jimmy is riffing on is how ketamine dealers exploited his addiction for profit and have been charged in his death recently. Is Matthew Perry a shit lib? Was he part of planning the war in Ukraine? Like I have no idea why he's getting this kind of shit, but I think Kurt's little riff there in the

middle should tell you a little bit of something. Like he's talking about Nancy Pelosi's husband being attacked by a right-wing media addicted idiot wielding a hammer. Lube up the hammer. Oh, okay. Talk about Nancy Pelosi. Gotcha. That makes more sense. Now I understood that part.

I was like, okay, all right. So incidentally, that guy who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer is doing 30 years in prison for that assault and 20 years of a concurrent sentence for attempted kidnapping because that's what his plan was. He was sure that the 2020 election had been stolen, so he was going to kidnap Nancy Pelosi and hold her hostage to get the truth revealed. From a KQED news article about that dude's trial, quote, he told the jury he came across most of his newfound political ideas after listening to mostly right-wing political YouTubers

for entire weekends at a time and a minimum of six hours per day on weekdays Including James Lindsay Jimmy Dore and Glenn Beck if I were named in that trial as one of the radicalizing influences of the perpetrator I think I might think it's a bit like a good idea. Just keep it out of the riff catalog Let's not go with Nancy Pelosi hammer jokes, man That's this is this is wild because I don't know what funny is anymore like I haven't been on stage for or well you know we've been on stage but I haven't been on stage solo as a comic you know for a good four or five years something like that and this is trash. It's rough. I

think people I thought people were better I thought people were good. I think that there's the No, I mean look so here's where I'll get defensive sure That's fair enough the like I am I'm Nancy Pelosi is like you got to step down or else we'll replace your doctors with Matthew Perry's doctors. Sure. That has the structure of a joke. You know what I mean? Right. It has the bare bones that you need to understand.

This is why he's making this joke. This is the, the, the, the, like what's behind it, where your mind's supposed to go. I get it. It's competent as a joke in that sense. Sure. It's not funny. No, it's mean. Yeah And he flounders with like I just think he looks like shit for his age

This is what I'm saying He doesn't there's a shock value that I think he was hoping to get out of the like Matthew Perry's doctor reference Yeah, yeah, it's distasteful and kind of being a dick, right? All right, and he got a little bit of that But then didn't know where to go with it. Yeah, I mean like this But it's what I'm saying is like just technical Stuff and giving a fuck about what you're talking about like if you're gonna do that bit, you know, like oh Nancy Pelosi Threatened to use the 25th Amendment and she hired Matthew Perry's doctors, you know, like she's not telling him anything She's got that in her back pocket. Like, she's not telling him anything.

She's got that in her back pocket. So it's that kind of thing. Why not do, like, the threatened to use the 25th Amendment if he couldn't pass a test by Matthew Perry's doctors? Sure, something like that. Maybe where it's not like, because Matthew Perry becomes like a butt of this joke

in a way that he's a victim of these doctors Exactly. It's mean it's wild because if you hire the doctors then you're not you're not saying like oh, it's Matthew Perry's fault You're saying these are murder doctors instead of like and now we're gonna switch them out for Matthew Perry's that makes it sound like It seems weird. Yeah, it's fucking wrong, man. So what about what do you think about Tim Walls? What do you think? Let's see what the worst bit of the world is did you hear about this do you hear he shook his wife's hand Did you see this so when Tim Walls was accepting his nomination to be vice president He shook his wife's hand was accepting his nomination to be vice president, he shook his wife's hand.

Now, I don't want to judge somebody, but even the male boxer from the Olympics was like, hey, something's off about that guy. Do you think he has two balls hidden above his vagina? What? Even Kamala's Indian mother was saying I could have arranged a better marriage than that. So this is pretty shocking, not because it's like edgy or anything, but because of how thin the facade has become.

Yeah, that is wild. That's just... Yeah. Look, that is wild. That's just... Yeah. Look at that joke. What's happened in the real world is that Walls shook his wife's hand, which isn't an affectionate enough display for Dorr, apparently. Sure, that's fine. The angle he's taking is that Walls is maybe gay because he shook his wife's hand.

And then as the punchline, Jimmy signals to the transphobic hysteria that broke out in the right wing about the Algerian boxer, Eman Khalif. This isn't a pretense here. Jimmy's just doing right wing grievance comedy. His opening monologue is hitting all of the hot button culture war issues that you might hear about on any of these right wing shows or all over social media. And I kind of struggle to see what makes this perspective any different.

What is he doing that's any different? What I don't understand about it is because this is the thing that I've noticed with this concept of like right-wing comedy is like they just say the thing that was on Fox News but then go like that's it. It's the same words with a different tone and people laugh because they're like I remember hearing that from the Fox News guy, you know? And it's, I don't understand where the bit is. Well, I think, so Kamala's mom is Indian and sometimes they're arranged marriages in Indian

culture. That one's not terrible. That makes sense at least. So Kamala's mom could have arranged a better marriage between Tim Walz's wife and Tim Walz. Sure. Better partners for either of them because Tim Walz's wife and Tim Walz. Sure. Better partners for either of them because Tim Walz isn't affectionate enough because he shook her hand. See, but that part doesn't make sense.

Maybe he's gay or a woman or something? I mean, because you can tighten it down. You can be like, oh, they shook hands probably because they are cold in bed or something. Kamala's mom could have arranged a better, that at least has the structure and it makes sense like that. I have no idea where balls come in. And again, it's just like, I'm saying the mailboxer thing

that you hear from the other places, so you laugh as though that's the joke. Yeah, it also just doesn't hit, because he shook his wife's hand, but he also hugged her and kissed her and like Mike Prince already was weird Yeah, like he already did kind of the standoffish cold with his wife Thing like we already like the last time around there was already this. Yeah, I don't know. It just doesn't it doesn't ring I didn't hit I think I think that monologue joke

This is a thing that gets me is like I May I might be a bad person because I will forgive a lot if the joke is good. Mm-hmm The lucky thing about that is that I just don't have to forgive the right wing. They don't have good jokes Yeah, yeah, you can you can make up a lot with you. There's the fair amount of craft And it's just not, it's not present. I've seen people be real pieces of shit in all different kinds of ways, but they were fucking funny, man. They were fucking funny.

And this is not. This is not. No. So I realized at a certain point that what was going on was that Jimmy was doing his opening monologue and then he was sort of playing some clips from TikTok and complaining about them. And I kind of thought, like, isn't this what his show is?

Why is it Rumble Time, episode one, when this is just kind of the same thing as his show? I don't know. Anyway, the Rift Train is chugging along, because they found a clip of a person who's a doctor on TikTok saying that it's not necessarily bad if you're overweight. It's maybe not the most important thing for your health. You can be healthy if you're overweight. And guess what? Not everybody has to be healthy. It is not a moral failure of some kind if they're, you know, so anyway, they're, they're

all like, oh. Live your fucking life. They're very upset about this. Sure. And then the, I would say that the riff train goes a little bit off the tracks. Uh oh. I think this doctor's making a killing off of Zempik. That's what I think.

Yeah. I think she's like, she's like a doctor who, uh, I don't know. I don't know. Anyway. Was this before the Paris Summer Olympics that we just had? I think so. Boo! Boo!

Are we ready to go to the? Boo! Not yet? Okay. He'll give me a flash when Alex is on. Okay, Alex Jones is stiffing us right now. We'll see what happens. It's okay. I have it coming. I kind of stiffed him once. Anyway. Someone in the audience yells, we're here for you. That made me very sad. That is sad. That is sad. Alex isn't on the zoom when he's supposed to. Rift Train has totally derailed and come to a stop. Combined with

Nevermind and the Summer Ozempics. It's a pun. That is tragic. Yeah. And then the reassurance from the audience is nice, but it felt bad. No, no, no. It felt very empty. I do not want reassurance from the audience because that means I need assurance from the audience. That's the wrong need to have if you're on a stage. It's a bad place to be. I kind of, I agree, but I kind of think it's sweet for that person. Oh yeah, I see what you're saying.

But it's also indicative of things not being where they need to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damning with faint praise doesn't do that justice. Yeah. So we get another TikTok clip that Jimmy's upset about. Jesus Christ. Another person on TikTok. I wish I was older, but somehow he's older than me

and he's playing TikTok clips. Yes. Christ. And so this clip has to do with a woman who wanted Some money from another parent sure because they had a playdate And there were expenses okay, this pisses Jimmy the fuck Some people saw this already. It sounds like some people saw this so she's gonna talk about play dates with her kids and Well buckle up Sending the other family money for play dates with her kids and well buckle up. I normally send the other family money for play dates.

So recently my daughter had a friend over and I asked her mom for money and this is how it went. So after the play date I texted her mom and I said thanks for letting Jamie play today. Please help out with your share of the expenses for the play date. Told her $15 via Ven them, let's do it again sometime. So she wanted her friend to pay $15 because she hosted her kid at a play date. And I don't know, can you imagine needing $15 this bad and not being addicted to crack? Isn't Jimmy supposed to be like really empathetic to the financial concerns of working people?

Isn't he supposed to understand that economic pressures are serious right now and people are struggling to get through? Why is he specifically allotting time on his show to mock someone who's just saying that it would be nice if parents shared the expenses when their children hung out together? It's pretty implied that she's also saying that she would happily send this other parent $15 if her kid went over there and there were some kind of expenses. This really doesn't make sense as something that needs to be mocked. It's just some person on TikTok, so who cares? But even if you decide to care, the thing she's suggesting isn't that crazy. Maybe you believe that the host should always take on all expenses. That's

a fine position to take. And I would have no problem with Jimmy arguing that. If he's like, it's your house, you pay for whatever when the kids come over. But it's such a weird angle for him to be like, how bad do you need $15 unless you're on crack? Right? Like, what are you doing? I have needed $15 so bad in so many different reasons and so many different times in my life

Yeah, I know this shit that he's doing now is pretty lucrative and so like he's probably very disconnected from what that's like right all right But like mocking the idea of it is is pretty I yeah Antithetical to what he's supposed to believe that is that is fucking well. I can't like I can't imagine That is that is fucking well, I can't like I can't imagine Not getting the idea that if somebody needs $15, that's a more important person than you I mean, it's just mean to like It's not like this person did anything to him. It's just a random person from tik-tok It's the same thing with the Matthew Perry thing. It's like this is mean what? Yeah, I don't know um I

Just I think they go on to play more of this and There are some things that are kind of mockable about what she's claiming as expenses sure so like she says A dollar for wear and tear on the couch There's other things that are like things that were consumed and stuff like that. Sure, sure, sure. And it makes sense why like you would want like everyone to share expenses. It makes sense.

It's not that weird. The thing that's mockable is some of the specifics of the expenses. But the premise itself is like you you would start going down this road and then be like, it's not worth it. It's it's whatever fun you can get out of like the wear and tear on the couch or whatever that kind of idea. Right. It's not worth the walk to get there. Right. Because in order to get there, you have to mock the premise of people needing $15. Exactly. And they must be crackheads or else it's not okay to be poor.

It's just weird. Right. I mean, I don't, I, yeah, I, this is an, this is an unusual person with an unusual request. That's why you're watching it in the first place. You wouldn't be watching this TikTok. This TikTok wouldn't have come to your attention if it were a usual person. So that's already disqualifying towards you being like, why does this person, no, this is a very specific person.

There's no need for you to generalize whatsoever. But even still, if you are going to generalize, what makes generalizations funny is when you are specific. That's how you get to that generalization without being just a dick who's like, hey, have you seen that this group of people does this? You go like, ah, this is a person who has a $1 worth of wear and tear on her couch. What costs what for wear and tear? What if I came on her couch?

How much does that cost me? I'll give you about 20 bucks for that. You know, that's- Right, they do get to the JD Vance of it all Exactly. Yeah, you get there eventually. Yeah, and that that is where there can be some fun Which is like line items on the exactly. Yeah, I think I think yeah that like how much is wear and tear That's a kind of fine territory for a joke. But in order to get there you have to mock the premise of this person Having a financial hardship.

Right. And it's, I don't know. No, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. No. So anyway, something else that doesn't make a whole lot of sense is Andrew Cuomo. They're complaining a lot about Andrew Cuomo.

Are we dead? We're doing it, we're getting impression. God damn. In this clip. I do, Jimmy, I remember that very well. It was going to be the next president of the United States but someone else had other plans. So he gave this speech and this is one of the most pandering unbelievable I'll display it for you let's enjoy it and that as a New Yorker I am a Muslim and as a New Yorker I am Jewish and as a New Yorker I am a refugee and as a New Yorker I am black

Oh no! Yeah! You can't fucking say you're black. You could not do that as a rich white guy who privileged your whole life. The son of a governor. I am black. No, you can't say that. He's a black refugee, Jimmy.

It's different. This is fun and all, but that was a speech that Cuomo gave in 2017. Jesus Christ. And it was at a press conference in response to Trump's attempt to bar people from seven This is fun and all, but that was a speech that Cuomo gave in 2017. Jesus Christ! And it was at a press conference in response to Trump's attempt to bar people from seven Muslim-majority countries from coming to the United States. That impression was fire, though. I mean, hey, listen, if these guys are ready, I am also ready to dust off that Monica Lewinsky

material, buddy. We're close. It's time. We are quite close. 30 years, about time to bring it back. Jesus Christ. And the premise of this bit seems to be, oh, aren't the woke scolds gonna be mad about this?

But you're imagining people being mad about it to be mad about. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a fairly innocuous sentiment to express like if you're a New Yorker then it transcends other stuff right there's a connection that we have despite differences because we're New Yorkers yeah absolutely that's like that scene in Spider-Man yeah totally yeah it is so that he's just doing that are you mad at Spider-Man no he's mad at the imaginary people who are mad about this They won't let Cuomo say something like this. Fuck Cuomo. I'm fine with that

What are we doing? Or the complaint is that it's pandery and maybe but it's also not it's also from 2017 It's a fucking speech from a politician. What do you expect? Hard-hitting facts. Yeah, maybe I think it's just basically fodder for the rift training. Oh, God. Keep the rift training rolling. This is awful. And as a New Yorker, I am poor. All right.

That's fair. That is fair. As a New Yorker, I am a bullshitter. Listen, your money doesn't go a long way in New York. I can tell you that. And as a New Yorker, I am homeless! That's true also. As a New Yorker, I am poor and homeless because my governor cut Medicaid funding right before a pandemic.

No, I'm homeless because I got kicked out of the governor's mansion. And as a New Yorker, I am an elderly person that I killed. As a new yorker, I stand on my yacht flipping off poor people. Fuck yeah. So they really made a meal out of the seven year old Cuomo clip, which seems relevant. But the larger issue I have is that Jimmy is so indignant there at the end about Cuomo mocking the poor from his yacht, but he just spent his own time on stage shitting on a random person on TikTok who suggested parents share the financial burdens of hosting play dates

for their kids. He's literally mocking the idea of not having $15 to spare as something that only makes sense if you're on crack. He has no coherent position here, it's all just bluster and sure, shitting on Cuomo is fun and I have no interest in defending him, but Jimmy lacks a core here There's no point to this. There's no point of view. They also seem to be mocking Cuomo from 2017 about decisions he made in 2020 which I guess is why it's important to pretend that this video is current And that's why you're upset about it, but I think it just maybe made the rounds on right-wing social media. I

just What are those riffs man? But I think it just maybe made the rounds on right-wing social media. I just What are those riffs man? You know y'all supposed to be funny. You're all supposed to have been doing this for a long time Yep, I think there's just more anger. Maybe I mean it's it's I get it. It's hard to be funny It's hard. I'm not I'm not gonna Be funny because I'm terrible but but I mean this is just tragic. It's there. There's some there's some problems Yeah, it is. But thankfully business picks up about an hour in Alex was supposed to be there at 10 minutes

I know but he shows up about an hour. Okay, And so Jimmy kisses his ass a little bit in the introduction. Oh my god. Well ladies and gentlemen, we've come to that magical moment where our guest has arrived, and everybody's excited I'm sure. The most censored man in all of social media, the man who is a... He is like Creskin in a soothsayer. Everything he says at some point comes true. He's about 10 and a half million times more accurate than CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, and New York Times. Let's hear it for the one and the only, Alex Jones

is here, ladies and gentlemen. Can you see me? Can you see me? Can you see me, brother? Well, I want to be on with you, but... Alex, can you turn on your video? Do you know how to do it? You know, I've been trying to connect for a while, but I'm too stupid. You know, I make all the predictions, but I can't seem to do that. I've been trying to do it here for about ten minutes. Sorry I'm late. Can you turn Alex on the monitor? Because I can't let you see me do that I've been trying to do it for about 10 minutes sorry I'm late can you turn Alex on the monitor because I can't hear him can you turn me is all right my bad you got me I'm this song my

bed all right yes we got Rex for a second and then Alex is sort of choppy, cutting it out, but he's there. They got him. Oh boy. They got him. The soothsayer. I think being on a screen on stage is my nightmare.

You know? Like that combination of being trapped in a weird little room by yourself and The pressure of trying to make a large group of people laugh who you will then not receive the laughs from yeah, it's awful Yeah, that's awful. Yeah, but apparently I don't Alex spent all his travel budget on going to California to pretend to cover bohemian Grove so he couldn't come to Chicago for the DNC. Yeah, there is that so yeah, that's nightmarish I agree with you and also I don't know how to deal with the way that Jimmy's introducing him like is that a joke I? What what are we what is what is rumble time? Is the joke supposed to be that Alex is like we're saying he's 10 million times more right than all of these other places because you're supposed to understand that he's not.

But I don't think that's the case. No. I mean, hyperbole is generally, I like to engage in hyperbole in order to demonstrate the opposite of something being true. Otherwise, I would just say an accurate thing. Otherwise, it's a waste of everybody's time. In this case, I think it's hyperbole meant to just be like, you're supposed to believe he's 10 times more accurate than the... Right. I don't know, man. Oh, man. It's strange. Jesus. So here's where we start with their little interview session.

I wanted to ask, I wanted to get your take. I just saw the new released body cam from Trump's assassination attempt. And did you see that where the one police officer was saying, aren't we all on the same frequency? I warned you, there was a guy up here. How come nobody did anything? Let me just get your take on all that. What do you think actually happened at Trump's assassination? Well, it was 100% a total stand down on record.

We know that now. You have all these coincidences lining up like this. You've had the deep state openly saying they want to kill Trump. And the fact is, their patching failed. So they are just in complete and absolute total panic mode right now. I just don't know what's... Yeah, you added on the other. You have the Secret Service Deputy head, So I guess since Jimmy introduced Alex the way he did, he must really want his audience to view everything he says as accurate. Alex has always proven right about everything and is a psychic, the most trustworthy source

for information around. In the context of this introduction, unless you take it as a joke, every question could basically be rephrased as, tell my gathered followers the secrets about this topic. If you're establishing Alex the way that Jimmy did in the intro, aren't you kind of stupid if you then disagree with anything he says? It has to be that. Like, I get it. It's fun to pretend that Alex is some kind of a prophet, but you know if you sign on to this premise,

you're signing on to theocratic end times fascism, right? I mean, like, you... this is what you're endorsing. I mean... And yeah, the Secret Service wasn't on the same radios as the local police, it turns out. It's a fuckup that's been reported on where the local police offered radios for the Secret Service to pick up, but they failed to do so. It's unclear if this is something that's happened before, but has never been an issue until

now or if it's a huge anomaly, but it's not the smoking gun that this whole thing was a setup. The way that Alex and Jimmy are presenting it as Like I was reading article about it and I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes total sense It's like you can't just let the layer there be one Yeah, yeah, cuz then everybody can hear it. Yeah. Oh, yeah that makes that makes total. Yeah Super special encrypted radio free. Yeah, you can't just let anyone into one It's it's much more complicated than it appears to be but if you just look at it from a really superficial level

It's like ah, why weren't they all in the same? Sure sure little hole. I have a question Is the comedy portion over or was it always supposed to be never this? Do you know what I mean? Like what is what is this show supposed to be never this? Do you know what I mean? Like, what is this show supposed to be? I don't know. I mean, like, I don't, I obviously don't think that the beginning comedy portion was not going to happen. Sure. I think maybe most of that was supposed to happen

after Alex, because they do get back to that after he leaves. But I think, I don't know, I don't know, man. So this is, so this- because they do get back to that after he leaves. But I think, I don't know, I don't know man. So this is an interview segment for sure. So this is our just totally straight-faced interview segment, but we've been funny and derogatory towards all these people, so we've got that context. Now we've got Alex fucking Jones there,

which to me is like, there's only one way to combine those two, which is to say that we're going to make fun of Alex Jones. It could be. I mean, it would be, it would be a way to go about it. Another way to go about it would be get Alex's take on how ugly Matthew Perry was. Get Alex in on the beating up people unnecessarily. Oh my God. No, that's the last thing we need.

More riffing. No, I think it's, hey, this is an interesting guy. It'll excite this live audience. Where are we? Chicago. No, I mean, where are we in Chicago? What's the venue? I don't remember.

Eh, fair enough. It's on Halstead somewhere. Oh, okay. I don't remember. Fair enough. So, but I think it is just a straight up interview. So this guy was totally protected. He was trained at a major Homeland Security training facility, the trains on land security. He was there, you know, 40 plus times. So

yeah, I mean, when you have all these coincidences all lining up the same way, they're not a coincidence. And so what do you make that they already burned his body? Yeah, they cremated his body and notice there were no press conferences. So like the whole thing here is laundering Alex as a prophet, that he's right about stuff and taking him seriously. Like if you're one of Jimmy's fans and you hear Alex say the shooter was trained at a Homeland Security facility, you've already been told by Jimmy that this dude sees the future and he's always proven right about stuff, so this must be a big deal. I bet you'd imagine some kind of documents that Alex has about the program where this guy was trained at a military installation or some kind of base.

He wouldn't just make this kind of claim about meaningless pieces of trivia, but that's exactly what he's doing. Being trained at a Homeland Security facility is a claim that Alex can back up by showing that the shooter went to the Clarion Sportsman Club, that 2,000 plus member shooting range, which also has law enforcement agencies use it for shooting training from time to time. This is the most inconsequential piece of evidence that's being used to make a very unsupported claim, and Jimmy has more or less insisted that the audience should blindly accept Alex's version of the story.

Crooks' body, the shooter, was turned over to his family, as is pretty much always the case with these sorts of things. The police and FBI collected and processed the evidence they needed, and then ten days later he was released to the family so they could do what they needed to do for themselves. This is all normal, but the whole thing that Alex and Jimmy are responding to is based on Representative Clay Higgins deciding he should go to Butler and poke around the site play detective for himself. When he found that the body was gone, he made a big stink about it and idiots like Alex

and Jimmy are turning it into proof of a cover up. This is nonsense. So his body was cremated because the family decided to because the FBI released the body to the family. It's nonsense. I mean, so what he that what they would prefer is that he was buried so then they could exhume him, presumably, and that would be dramatic, right? I mean, I guess they'd probably find a way to have a problem with that, too, because the family probably wouldn't allow them to go through the courts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is it? Because it's a cover-up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, everything that, every little piece of detail that conforms to your conclusion is evidence and it's exaggerated into being smoking guns. And anything that is inconvenient is just proof of how elaborate the cover-up is. Like when you can never, ever prove anything is a false flag, like Alex, that's just a testament to how good they are at covering up false flags. It's perfect, it's a great system. They know that bodies decompose, you know?

I mean sure, but how long do you keep it in the freezer? You know what I'm saying? How long do you get to keep the body in the freezer before you're like, hey, we got the attempted assassin guy, are we gonna send him home? And is that usually well, in time weeks later, if somebody decides that they want to do their own little investigation, that's not how that works. You'll borrow this thing.

No. Then it turns out any time before that is too early. That seems crazy to me. They're just just what do you want? I want you to freeze this body so anybody at any point in time in the future can randomly go ha ha the fingernail. Well because everyone is entitled to do their own investigation. That is true. Of every crime.

That's true. Obviously we all know that. I've seen a law and order. It's wild. That is crazy. So the topic of Biden comes up, of course. Sure. And so Jimmy, Jimmy asks him a little question. So do you have any inside info on what happened with Biden and his reported medical emergency in Las Vegas? Well, I was

told, well, Charlie Kirk told people that I know, like the day and a half of it had been a medical emergency, and then weeks later it came out that there was a medical emergency, and then Biden was flown to Delaware for seven, eight days, wasn't seen, and then now he was close. He's covered her butt and said, well, I saw the letter from by the resignation. It looked like it was from him. Well, it didn't even have a presidential seal, the signature was standing. So it looks to me, I mean, speculate that they didn't get him the drugs normally on. Or they slipped him something. He had a real medical emergency or he had

some medical problems. And then they just basically held him until he agreed. Then when he showed up seven days later, he kind of shuffled on to Air Force One in Delaware. And they said, well, why did you stand down? You know, why are you giving up? And he said he even agreed to it. And now he's on interviews. He said he's basically forced out by the Democratic Party. So I mean, I feel in the election, all the homey still debate that you can't debate that. Kamala Harris got as many votes, the primary, Toronto, McDonnell. So Jimmy asking the question, like, Hey, what do you inside secret info about this? Like, the question presupposes that he's willing to believe that Alex has some of that information,

which is already starting off on the wrong foot. You shouldn't even trust Alex to accurately convey publicly available information, let alone mysterious behind the scenes gossip that he's probably just getting from social media. So on July 5th noted bigot and loser Laura Loomer posted on Twitter that Biden had a medical emergency on board Air Force One. There's no evidence that this was the case, but it was exciting. So people reposted it and it went around. People denied Loomer's bullshit, but she shot back that it was all true because Biden was

canceling events mysteriously. The event that he canceled was a July 7th National Education Association staff union meeting which he decided not to attend after the union announced it was going on strike. It was solidarity and not crossing a picket line that canceled that event, not this medical emergency. Biden still did other events in the same time frame, but it doesn't matter. The narrative stuck with the right-wing dipshit crowd and they all kind of just ran with it. There's some real problems with Alex's timeline that he's presenting here.

So this was on July 5th when this was supposed to have happened, which is easy to get conflated with July 17th, which is when Biden announced that he tested positive for COVID, which is also easy to get mixed up with July 21st, which is when he announced he was stepping aside in the 2024 race. In order for Alex's premise to have any plausibility, they would need to have been drugging up and holding Biden hostage from the 5th to about the 21st, demanding that he step down or else. And that didn't happen. There was a NATO summit.

Yeah, there was that whole thing that he was there for. Yeah, and Alex covered on his fucking show. Also, Alex references that Pelosi said a particular letter didn't sound like Biden. He wants you to think that she was talking about the letter where Biden dropped out of the race. In the real world, Pelosi was talking about a prior statement that Biden had released, signaling his intention to stay in the race. That's the one that she said didn't sound like him.

Alex is playing a little bit of a sleight of hand here. He's mixing up these details because what really happened is meaningless to him. Jimmy is encouraging his free-thinking oriented audience to engage with reality the same way Alex does, which is pretty sad and not connected to anything. Yeah. It's fun. I don't understand. I suppose I just don't understand. Like, I mean, okay, maybe it's just like, we got to fill content somehow, you know, but like, Biden's, what are we doing? What are we doing? Still? What are they doing talking about Biden? Like you're wasting all of your time and energy there afraid that there's a decent chance that Kamala will win and they need to invalidate her presidency somehow. Sure. And they're trying everything. They're trying the she

wasn't born here, but her stuff. Sure. They're trying. Um, she stole the nomination. They write. Yeah. But I mean like who cares? Exactly. For them. Like, they're talking to, they're not talking to me. They're talking to their crowd. No, they're pre, they're laying track in advance for bullshit, trivial Senate inquiries down the road if Harris wins in order to clog up the system and make sure that nothing gets done. That's the kind of thing that these narratives serve. Sure. I think. Gotcha. All right. I'm not entirely sure what Jimmy's interest in all this is outside of like, Alex is a

lightning rod for attention. So I'll get some of that. I mean, did people go to this venue to hear an interview with Alex? Like they knew. One person yelled, we came to see you. So I assume they came to see Jimmy Dore. Yeah, like I just don't understand. Tell me, I understand it if there's a good story.

Like Biden's actually been dead for two years. This is a clone. He's plumping, like any number of different exciting things. If there's a health emergency, that's when they switched him out for the real one or the not real one or whatever. Well, Metzger seems to think that there's a couple of... See, that's great. That's fine, because then I guess that it's just a fun thing to talk about.

But if it's like an attack on the political system, like you're late. It is late. You're a month late, man. I think that you could almost take a really, really cynical approach to Jimmy having Alex on the show. I think that obviously when Alex has been on Rogan or when he's done Tucker Carlson, you know, you do see a huge boost in these kinds of numbers.

And I think that- And it's the first episode of Rumble Town. Right, and I think that you probably have an expectation that like, okay, this will work well in my advantage. Right. And then Alex, like it's obvious what his agenda is. Right. So I think that they're using each other. Right. Kind of. Right. I just, man, I wish that their

agenda was similar to ours in so far as it should be to put on a good show. Yeah, they didn't do that. They don't feel like it doesn't feel like they're trying. No, it's it's not a good show. But there's a there's the appearance of trying to make some agenda overlap. Sure. And I think that that's where I find any kind of interestingness. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Jimmy does have this brand of like, I'm attacking from the left or whatever. I guess.

But he's not. He's very much not. No. Or whatever I guess but he's not no he's very much not his Co-host is sitting there in an LGBT CIA shirt. Yeah, they're making transphobic jokes. They're talking everything is incredibly about Exclusion of folks. Yeah, there's beating up on people for their poverty Like this is not a politics that I that I associate with the left at all But there isn't there is a feeling of that is where he's supposed to be coming from.

And so I think that there's an attempt at that, but it's very dissonant. It's just wild, because they're just regular-ass 1950s racists. I don't under- yeah, I mean, I feel bad for the people who wanted to go see a show! I think they got what they wanted. You're probably right. So there's a couple moments that I think are really interesting that transcend how stupid both of these people are and how dumb this conversation is.

And this is one of them. And it's Jimmy asking Alex, hey, Trump didn't do any of the shit that you wanted him to do. So you support him. Do you actually think he's going to do any of the shit that you wanted him to do. Right. So you support him. Right. Do you actually think he's gonna do any of the shit that you want him to do? Good question. Right.

When Trump actually was president, it seems to me he didn't do many of the things he said he was gonna do. He didn't give everybody healthcare. He said he would. He didn't bring back jobs to America like he said he would. He didn't bring back jobs to America like he said he would. He didn't drain the swamp. In fact, what he did was he put them all in his goddamn cabinet, right? So, and he didn't pardon Snowden. He didn't pardon Julian Assange, and he didn't release the JFK files, and he didn't lock up Hillary Clinton or prosecute any of those people. He didn't do anything, he said.

So what do you think if he becomes president, do you think that he's gonna do any of those things in his second term? Look, I'm not giving Trump a pass. Yes you are. But he's not from the Washington machine. He was open about how, as a major real estate owner, he gave money to both parties.

And he was very, very ignorant and naive when he came in. Then these politicians and politicos lied to him and said that they were going to be loyal and do what he wanted, that they were actually that. So he pulled from the system. And I think now he's going to be different, but certainly Trump has made some blind spots. He supported Operation Warp Speed, the poison shots,

and all the rest of it. So I don't think Trump is some panacea here. But permanent Washington, the Republican and Democrat establishment, does not like Trump because he's an outsider. Nixon had big problems, but the system got rid of him because he tried to be president. And so the permanent bureaucracy doesn't like presidents, they like puppets, like Biden, who doesn't even know, or actually presidents, they like puppets, you know, like a Biden who doesn't even know what planet he's on.

So they knew whoever they wanted, and then he's just a front man. You know, come and empty suit as a placeholder, not Kamala Harris is a perfect example of that. I don't think, worships Trump, I didn't believe the whole Q thing, that he was invincible, and there's all these good guys in government.

I mean, I think we're in the latter stage of the decay of an empire right now, and I do think Trump is better on cutting back on war than the Democrats and the neocons, so because of that, I overall support Trump. So you can see how Alex engages differently with different audiences. I think he has enough instincts, and not enough apple juice in him, to know that if he started rambling about how the literal devil is trying to terraform the world so his demonic minions can breathe in a carbonless atmosphere and how Trump will save the world by burning more fossil fuels and polluting more, the audience is probably going to think he's an insane

idiot. So he moderates his image to become more acceptable, and in doing so, he has to take on the mantle of a lesser of two evils guy. This is the guy Jimmy wants to sell to the audience, too, so he doesn't mind Alex lying to the audience's face, or quite honestly, Jimmy probably has no idea what Alex actually believes. More likely, Alex knows that the version of himself Jimmy wants to be there, he knows what that is, and he's being that, because this shit's a game.

And sure, Trump didn't do a lot of that stuff, but you're a goddamn idiot if you're just sitting there trying to pretend Trump didn't do anything in his term. He may not have done all the things that he did to keep the dum-dums chanting and clapping on the campaign trail, but he definitely appointed three unacceptable Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe v Wade along with countless other decisions they've made and will make that roll back all kinds of civil protections Jimmy's supposed to care so much about most that play into the advantage of corporations, which Jimmy is supposed to be opposed to.

Jimmy is invested in making Trump out to be just another politician because that's an improvement in his image. Treating Trump like a threat to all our public safety makes him a pretty much unsellable candidate which sucks for him. The whole brand is shitting on Democrats and pretending to attack them from the left but with right-wing positions. So the thing that the Democrats are fighting can't possibly be something that you actually need to fight too.

It has to just be an illusion, just another politician with big promises that doesn't do anything. With Trump, from most of Jimmy's audience, that's a comforting thought. With Harris and the Democrats, the audience fears that they would just be another normal politician. They would say the right things and inspire hope

that things could be better, and then just be another establishment hack. With Trump, the fear is that he's not. The fear is that he means what he's saying and will try to assert dictatorial type powers. By lambasting Trump as just another politician, Jimmy's actually doing amazing PR work for Trump among this kind of disaffected, pretending to be left-wing audience. Because it's like, okay, yeah, on this one side, we have the things that we want to hear and the disappointment of all those things not magically happening.

Yeah. On this side, we have a normal politician would be like, ah, he's just talking shit about all the stuff that, you know, strips people of rights and is all scary. Yeah. I'm just, I'm blown away. I have no idea where everybody is coming from here. I don't know who's, what is, what is, what is everybody, you know, like, I'm blown away. I have no idea where everybody is coming from here. I don't know who's, what is everybody, you know, like I wanna know what people want out of this.

So like if Jimmy Dore is trying to launder Alex, right, what does he want? He wants like numbers or whatever, I guess. So that's why you have Alex on. Alex wants to get some of Jimmy Dore's audience and create theocracy Basically sure all political motion towards that while selling pills sure sure yeah But what is up with these people man? What are they up to I think that a lot of them probably have

Some positions that aren't well represented by some parties. Sure. And some of them are right winger than they realize, probably. But I also think that what is going on here, the essential dynamic that I find interesting is that you have the same, I think the motivations come from the same place as a lot of the media. You know, a lot of the media is invested in making a horse race out of the presidency and the election because, you know, you're selling a product. Yeah, they're going to work hard to make Trump palatable for us.

Right. As much as some of the race is fairly close, it will be closer in the eyes of the media because that is in their best interest for ratings, all kinds of things. Totally. We've seen this play out over and over again when Trump should be dealt with in a way that is much harsher. The reality of what he does and how he behaves, the things he says are unacceptable within this realm.

And the fact that he is even treated as a viable person who people should be rallying behind is the bias. This is the same thing, I think, with Jimmy. Making Trump just another politician is a way to make it closer to a horse race between these two options. They're both bad in the same way as opposed to they're both viable alternatives to each other in the media because otherwise what is the content you're gonna make you know you have to you have to make there be some sort of tension and the only way to do that is to make Trump a viable option and Trump's a viable option if everybody's

shit yeah you know I think maybe maybe we gave them too much of a pass in 2016. Because it was like, for most of us, it was the first time we had experienced this level of Nazi washing. I don't know what to tell you. But I mean, for them to do it now, that's egregious shit. That is truly egregious. Yeah, and to play this game that Alex is trying to play

with like, oh, I just kind of, you know, on a balance, I think he's less likely to make war. Yeah, I have. So it would be insulting if you're Jimmy to accept that, except for he doesn't care. Yeah, I think one thing that is amazing about Alex is that it is through having no respect for Alex and hating him that I have learned to have no respect for everybody else in the media too and hate them

as well. Yeah, I guess. He's got an amazing ability to point out how idiotic everybody else is. He does. He is a teachable example about a lot of problems that exist in many places. It is unfortunate. So, obviously, these folks, Jimmy's audience, are quite anti-Israel. And some of them are anti-Israel for understandable reasons.

And some of them are not. But either way, this is a quite anti-israel audience Yeah, I imagine that would be the the intersection. There's I very strongly doubt that there are people there who are like Let's go. Yeah, and and so Alex is Disappointed with the way that Trump has behaved on this sure with the way that Trump has behaved on this issue. Sure! Yeah, I'm disappointed in Trump and his carte blanche support of Israel. I'm never an anti-Israel guy.

I mean, I think it's just another corrupt government. And I certainly don't support Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran. I mean, it's all just, you know, terrible. It's like, it's actually what porta potty I want to eat out of, you know? I mean, I don't want to eat any of it. If I'm shown 20 porta potties, which one do you want to choose? I don't like any of them. They can use an algae like that.

But Trump's slavish support of Netanyahu is dangerous. And people say, well, wait, Alex is a big Israel supporter, but he also has criticized Israel a lot. No, I'm just not anti-Israel. I'm thinking not anti-America. I don't want to corrupt government with that. I think Trump's better on Ukraine, but he has been slavish on this

situation with the ongoing bombing of Gaza. So I mean, I've been against that from day one. I mean, I said Israel can carpet bomb the whole place and maybe win, but they're getting some puritan victory because they're going to lose in public opinion. That's weird. So it makes sense why the audience might applauded Alex expressing disappointment with Trump's support of Israel, but it would be really helpful for Jimmy to ask a follow-up question here about why he's disappointed. Alex doesn't care at all about the Palestinian people, which I would assume is a concern that a lot of the people who are applauding have.

You would assume. Alex's problem is that it'll bring immigrants here who scare him. Further, Alex realizes that the killing of civilians in Gaza looks really bad and people don't like it, so the PR of Trump wanting more of it is not good for Trump. These are the fundamental realities of Alex's position, which I think Jimmy's audience might be less quick to applaud, but I might have them wrong, because I didn't think that a lot of this other stuff would be what his show is. I'm blown away. Yeah. I'm blown away.

Yeah. I'm blown away. So maybe I'm too idealistic. The idea of allowing somebody to be like, ah, you see the problem is the optics are bad. That's mwah! Beautiful. You could carpet bomb the whole place and win, but then people wouldn't like you.

It just doesn't get better than that. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because I think that fundamentally Alex would be totally fine with an extermination of a people if there wasn't consequences like immigration. Yeah, 100%. And I mean why else? Yeah. That's something that comes through in his comments. Yeah. So Jimmy wants to know about we're gonna have another COVID. We're doing COVID again. Oh my God. Well, Alex, I wanted to ask you, do you have any inside info? They're ramping up their fear mongering again about COVID and monkeypox. So do you have any other insight on any of the incoming deep state plans that we're in for?

This is a bit, right? Yeah, I mean, I do because they always telegraph what they're doing beforehand. And so they said, we'll have another pandemic. So they're trying bird flu and monkeypox, any amount of fear they can for control. They wanna pass it to you and trigger you to take control of our bodies and all the rest of it.

And as bad as Trump was on COVID, he's been better on saying, you should have a right to not take the shots. He was against the lockdowns once we got in the middle of it. But yeah, I mean, so much of inside info is just watching the establishment corporate media pre-program was coming. So I don't, I mean, if it's not a bit, Jimmy's coming off like a real dork asking for inside

info from Alex. He appears to have personally bought in on an embarrassing level to Alex's shtick. I think you're not gonna be able to stammer your way through this one on both sides, lesser of two evils kind of thing, because Trump supported and brought us the vaccine. These people have seen such a profit motive

in demonizing the vaccine and creating hysteria around it. And people took that seriously. People died because they believed the right-wing storylines about covid. And now alex wants to pretend well Trump's pretty good on the issue. It's not an issue. It's a mass murder biological weapon plot. I think that it's pretty likely that one of Trump's biggest liabilities is the anti-vax fervor that his base has rallied around.

It was so profitable and so easy to organize around that that they couldn't resist it, but now it's also disqualifying for the candidate that they want to defend as the lesser of two evils. And it just doesn't work. Yeah, that's the one, this is the one that is amazing to me that they got, that people get like twisted up on.

Because to me, it just just like I get you know the morality of being like ah forward wars are bad you know that's how it works and people should do that stuff but ostensibly the idea of borders and nations is that sooner or later they'll be our enemy anyway so who fucking cares. What matters for your government that you're choosing is that they don't poison you? Like, isn't that the number one? Like, hey, first off, government don't poison me. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a big one. Like, I don't go murder other people. That's bad. I understand that. But, you know, the government is our government and there are

other people not responding in an ideal way to foreign tensions and things that happen around the world that sometimes you have an influence in and sometimes you wish you had more of an influence in, or whatever. Not responding in a perfect way, obviously you wanna be against. Sure.

Creating a bio weapon and then attacking the entire world, it's a different kind of thing. It seems insurmountable to me. And somehow they're surmounting it. No, it is for a lot of people. And I think that's why Trump's not going to get all of our FKs followed. Yeah, you're right.

I think that because it was so profitable and because they were able to use it so well, a lot of people are true believers in a way that Trump cannot reach now. And I think that's sort of the way that the knife cuts the other direction a little. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So Jimmy has another decent question,

and that is that, hey, Trump wants to make this whole border thing, do you think that's just gonna be an excuse to do surveillance shit? Sure. And Alex, this should, he should be worried about this. This should be disqualifying. So do you fear that if Trump becomes president and he goes to secure the border,

he's gonna do it with what Whitney Webb talks about, with surveillance and facial recognition, it's gonna be an electronic wall instead of an actual wall Which is just going to mean mass surveillance for everybody. Do you fear that? Yeah, I mean Ron Paul always said when they build a wall, it's going to be to keep us in and But you already go to the airport. It's not making face can to go to the airplane So this stuff's already here. So much that we should capitulate to it. But we have to cut the incentives off to tell the world they can just come here for free

and we want bankruptcy out. We're breaking one cheap labor and you've got the different NGOs that are making a lion's share of the money off servicing all of these migrants. Yeah. So that's the way that Alex answers this question. Fuck immigrants. Wild. Yeah. Wild. That's a tough question for Alex because everything about his career should lead him to say yes, and it is too risky to ever allow someone like Trump to put something like that in place. We assume good intentions. Sure. Oh sure, but everybody does right before Well, I think goes wrong. It shouldn't just be that but like hey if you have your guy do a thing it's also important to remember that four years later a

Different guy might then have that same power to do that same thing. And you might not like that guy. True. That's the idea. And Alex's career is largely based on all kinds of absurd, well, if we allow this, then what, you know, kind of thing. Exactly. And for him to be like, they already face scan you at the airport. Yeah, I mean.

It's so the opposite of what his entire world is based on. And it is so, like I want I want to have Some sort of shock collar installed in me now that I can program because like this is Everything like just listening to this. This is everything that he is not supposed to be. No, I mean Yeah, I'm I am I have to like have a shock collar now just to make sure that at no point in time in the future will I slide into this trash. Trump murdered everyone

with the vaccine, but he met well and he was just tricked by everyone around him so we should give him another shot. He is the lesser of two evils in terms of war and stuff like that. Yeah. But also he's probably gonna do a bunch of wars. I mean. Yeah, sure. There is a high tech surveillance tyranny that is going to be implemented by the border. You're the Mark of the Beast guy.

Yeah, but look, they already scanned you at the airport. You're the Mark of the Beast guy. Oh well. You see, this is just, it's just crazy to me. It reveals the insincerity of a lot of the positions that Alex has built his entire brand around totally And I don't think that Jimmy is meaning to reveal these rights anything, but it lays it pretty bare So Jimmy talks a little bit about our Trump's he's not the outsider that he once was That's true, and I would describe Alex on his backist of back. Dave Smith tweeted

out today that he thought it was a mistake for well here he says the problem with Trump calling the Democrats communists and Marxists aside from being inaccurate and making him sound like a grandpa arguing in the 1940s is the framing. He says between his position on Israel, COVID, and even his praising of the Secret Service, what Trump calls his opponents Marxists, he positions himself as a defender of the establishment, guarding against the radicals. That was never the appeal of Donald Trump.

People supported him because he represented a repudiation of the Bushes, the Clintons, the Obama's, and the corporate media. He was a giant middle finger to the establishment. So do you think it's a mis- I mean, I think it's- Go ahead. I mean, I know where you're going, and I think it's very fair to say this is a more establishment Trump than we saw eight years ago or four years ago. And I think that's his advisors telling him to be more of an establishment Republican.

And I don't think that's wise. I think it should be the bomb thrower politically, for the media quotes me on that, the term bomb thrower meaning he should be the outsider, the populist, the maverick, which he never, as you said, completely delivered on, but the system sees him as that, and now he is definitely, you know, I mean, he's been going after Kamala Harris and Biden for getting almost all the big corporate donations and, you know, all the big black rock money, and instead he is acting like, you know, they're Bernie Sanders, you know, and then some leftist at the university. And that's not who they are.

I mean, they are military industrial complex puppets. So the big appeal of Trump was being anti-war compared to them and going against the establishment. That's still the big appeal that they've tried to put him in jail and take him off the ballot and kill him. But that is being outweighed in many ways by what you're saying. And I tried to be a big Trump supporter, but I'm not loyal opposition or whatever.

I just sit there, you know, talk about him, but don't criticize him. And I mean, I really am concerned, and a lot of my listeners are concerned about Trump and the different turns he's made. Hey man, you're fighting the devil. What is happening? Right.

I feel insane right now. I do too. I feel legit crazy. I feel like I've been sent into a different universe where everything's fucked up, and all that happened is I just listened to this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is crazy.

Well, because I think that Jimmy is making a point that is good About what made Trump's brand really viable in 2016, right? And why him winning sucked and why it didn't work and why it ruined 2020, right? And why it's kind of falling apart now, right is that he is supposed to be the bomb thrower He's supposed to be the guy who is fighting against the system Yeah, he gets in power and you have to create this entirely insidious other system that he's supposed to be fighting and now That system is really the system or it's just it's too much He's supposed to retake the reins for the sake of civilization. Yeah, really

Yeah, listen Obama did the hope and change right in 2008 and then when he didn't do either of those things He didn't continue doing hope and change in 2012. He was like, hey, come on. I'll be better than that guy Mm-hmm, but you know like Trump that's all you get on your second term whenever because you never deliver on shit We already trash human being. You became the president. You're worthless. Your slogan when you're being reelected is, we've done all right.

Yeah, what? We'll try and do more. Fuck off. Great, but if you've had four years off in between, it's really hard to have any kind of idea of like, oh, we'll keep the ball rolling. What? No, you can't.

It's no good. No. The point that Jimmy is making is fair enough. But it is about optics, and it's about the brand that everyone bought into with Trump. The appeal to the supporters was based on wanting to give a middle finger to the man,

or whatever. And now it really isn't the same. There's still an anger that Trump embodies for a lot of his followers. But trying to pretend that it works on some kind of a Clinton-Obama insider versus Trump level just feels false. And for Alex to be so sort of stammery about his support of Trump is hilarious. It's so wild. I appreciate how everybody got into this place. Because for the longest time we were like, what if everybody was just the worst possible

candidate and then we'll choose? But then Biden stepped away. So now you have to, the rules are different now. Now it's not two dying old men which one was gonna be more of a monster to you. You know, like the rules have changed. Yeah, and I think that Alex may be representing something that is really important for him.

Which is, you might need to get rid of Trump. You have to. Like, he can't even give a strong defense of Trump in front of Jimmy fucking Doors audience. I mean, that's tragic. Like, this is a man. You don't have to tell the truth. This is a weak man.

This is very weak. But he should be weak. Like like he shouldn't be defending Trump But he also should be because it's only like two months till the election Yeah, and he's supposed to be fighting the devil. I don't know. I don't know you just you know his heart's not in this You just can't do it. Yeah, I think the only thing maybe that they got is they should go hard on trying to convince everybody that Kamala Tried to kill Trump. I think you you push the picture of him with the bloody fist

You can tie it to all of the Democrats and you say they're going to kill all of you next Yeah, right, like that's your only hope, and the idea of creating all of these ways that you can sort of slow down the process and create bullshit inquiries in Congress and stuff like that. Sure, sure, sure, sure. You know, create that kind of havoc in advance. Yeah.

I think those are probably your top priorities. Yeah, because you just can't do the other stuff, right? It's over now. There's a chance that Trump will win and that is not in sure That's not a foregone conclusion. Sure. So there is a chance that he could win and if he does great, right? But there's also a chance that he could lose right and you don't want to be holding the bag, right? I think that Alex needs to do some work on that in two months. So this is one of the first times that I really felt like maybe he's expressing like a like, yeah, I think it's so funny. I think it's so funny. Just that like, we're

in a space where it's like Trump could still win, but the only way he's going to win is with a massive amount of help from the media. And that's what we're all waiting for. And they're going to deliver. It's amazing. I don't know if they can resist. They just can't. They need money.

They love money more than they want us to live. So this interview, it lasts only about 12 minutes. You're joking. No. Fuck me. It's very short. I mean, I support him because the system is trying to kill him, but that said, I'm going to be a supporter so that I can put his feet to the fire on the issues and, you know, try to get better policies out of it. Okay. All right. Well, Alex, I just want to say, I'm pretty sure you've taken time off your evening to share it with me and my audience. Let's hear it for Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen. Why? You can call me Ronald Jones on that,

Joel Jones. God bless you. So afterwards, he's not like, hey, that guy was an idiot, right? Like he doesn't... So there's no reveal of like this is a joke Right or anything, so I don't know I think it was sincere I think it's a sincere interview, and I think maybe it would have gone longer if Alex would have been Anything that he was supposed to be there. Yeah, okay? I think maybe that that was right. I don't know what happened, but it was very short and disappointing and then afterwards they go back to watching some clips. You're joking what is this fucking show? You want to hear another clip? We're gonna play a

game with this clip. Yeah I do. Try and figure out when this clip is from. Okay. Here's her platform right here. You know, we have to stay woke. Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about if you're the wokist or woker, just stay more woke than less woke. Yeah. Is she, she wanna be president or is captain of the enterprise?

What does that share? Does she mean more meth and less fentanyl? Because hey you know what's not woke? Wearing three inch heels and a pantsuit I think. Equality starts with not balancing your entire body on a centimeter of a stiletto. Yeah. What? That didn't land did they write did they write this? I'm not sure I have no idea Oh God, so I turned it off Taking turns as though they like yeah, yeah, we're gonna have a little bit of a we're gonna play tag Both yep, so what do you think that clip of Harris was from I want to say? 2019 2017 Oh the clip of Cuomo and Harris are both from 2017. Oh my god

What is wrong with that one was making the rounds on right-wing social media? So I think that Jimmy must have seen it on there and been like we can riff on this I Don't know in practice No, the confidence. I mean man. I feel like How about this, all right? You have Tommy John surgery, all right? You lose your fastball. You don't have the same confidence as when you had the fastball.

You know what I'm saying? Jimmy Dore has long since lost that fastball. I don't understand the confidence with which he is behaving. Well, that's the kind of thing that I'm dealing with is that like, I get everything except for like when he says the, you know what's not woke wearing a pantsuit with his heels. And then the audience doesn't laugh. Nothing. Yeah. Like if the audience laughed I would get all of this sure I don't get where the it doesn't even at times when Jimmy starts yelling and shit Yeah, the audience is into it. Yeah, so there are those moments He's like Bernie Sanders is a fucking sellout hack Yeah, the oven's podcast and said we should still vote to drop about sure sure sure sure people like that, right?

But in terms of the humor, no, I don't think there's, man. It doesn't land. I can tell you, like, I can tell you, what, like, at our Toronto show, I can tell you at least three things that I said that did not land the way I wanted to. And they didn't go bad,

but they didn't land the way that I wanted to. And I wanted, like, I was like, oh my god, what am I doing with my life? Do you know what I mean? Like the idea of and you know, cuz I'm a comic I put back up there Got the confidence back but the idea of being able to just like get dead silence and then just be like that I'm still great. No idea. No idea. No idea. Well, I think you have to maybe have a different system of how you judge things. Yeah. Then. Yeah. You know, I guess. And I don't know. I was looking at his YouTube channel and I did notice that there were spikes in traffic, or spikes in views for Alex's videos. So like, that's cool.

I mean, you know, you have, here we go, what do we got? RFK also very popular, videos about RFK get a whole lot more views than a lot of his other ones. Wild. You have like 30,000-ish normal views, and then Alex's video, 60,000. But he views and then an Alex video 60,000 But he doesn't does he do they do like live shows a lot or have they have they like maybe what's happened is they've Retreated to the like all we are is in a studio kind of environment with each other

So we just talk like that and we don't actually know what makes a crowd laugh anymore. I don't think so I think Jimmy still performs. Oh my God. Yeah, I don't know. This is, I think this is one of the problems that we have. Is that first of all, we don't know Jimmy all that well. No, that's true. As his show. That's true.

And then second, this is the first episode of Rumble Time. Man. So there is no context for what this is. Y'all gotta make that the last episode of Rumble time I'm excited for episode 2. I am NOT we are definitely gonna cover. We are not I Told you I made a mistake yeah, I think I made a mistake I think so too, but I also think I'd like here's the thing though. This is kind of mind-blowing this whole thing Again, I feel like I'm in an alternate universe and he's

just saying the normal stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, Alex acting like a like a normal, like person who thinks about political things and that kind of shit is bizarre. Yeah. And so him pretending to be that is bizarre. And then I really do think that there is something that is fascinating about I really do think that there is something that is fascinating about the way that Jimmy needs to make Trump just another politician. Yeah. In the same pursuit as the media trying to make him another politician. They make Trump a credible politician in order to facilitate the horse race. And Jimmy's making him just another politician for the for the same reason because it justifies this kind of

Both sides. Yeah, this is wild. I mean also like Alex It's more fun to not be the lesser of two evils person Do you know who has no fun being the person who's like let's be responsible. That's not a fun position No, no, but when your alternative is has no fun being the person who's like, let's be responsible. That's not a fun position. No, no, but when your alternative is yelling about the devil in front of a crowd of presumably hip Jimmy Dore fans. But that's what I'm saying. They would enjoy, that's a show.

No, but they'd be laughing at him. That's what he's supposed to be. No, he doesn't like that. Oh my God, he doesn't. He used to be fine with people laughing He he used to have a brashness. Yeah that could withstand people laughing at him Yeah, and now I don't know if that's the case brutal But I think he could probably if it wasn't a live show like yeah, if it was just him and Jimmy sitting around

He could talk about the devil. Yeah, yeah, but the live show aspect of it probably that's it's a nightmare to be trapped in a screen With an audience that can't talk to you. That's true. Yeah, so anyway Back another episode but until then we have a website indeed we do it's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back but until then I'm Leo I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm the mysterious professor Now here comes the sex robots Andy and Kansas you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you.