Knowledge Fight - #959: August 27, 2024

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness an epic day in Alex's career, when he interviewed both The Most Important Person In The World, and Trump's future Secretary of Retribution.

Music It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight knowledge fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge Knowledge fight Need money Stop it Andy and can Andy and Kansas It's time to pray and the impending I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship with the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan! Jordan.

Quick question for ya. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, I wanted to have an episode on Wednesday, I wanted to do a Wednesday episode, we had a little bit of a HVAC issue in the studio, and thankfully it was not a big deal. It was not like a huge,

like I thought maybe we would have to tear down a wall or something for a leak of some sort, but it turned out to be a minor issue. So that in and of itself is a bright spot. That is great. Something looking like a huge pain in the ass that becomes like a minor issue. Great. The moment that I moved into a place that my wife owned that was not landlord repair based. I freak out anytime anytime the toilets clock. The stakes are so high for you. Exactly. You might have to figure out how a toilet works. I'd have to call somebody else. So that could be a bright spot in and of itself. But a little more fun. I've been watching a bunch of movies trying to recapture the magic of cinema for myself and I saw knives out and I loved it

It's great. I love a mystery. I love a silly accent And yeah, I just want to talk like Benoit Blanc all the time. It's so great. It's a terrible accent It's so great. It is like, you know It's a terrible accent. It's so great. It is like, you know Every take on Poirot every take on Poirot's accent is Distinct from the others, which is what makes the accent fun. Yeah It's very Belgian. Yep But yeah, I like that like a like a mystery like I'm enjoyed. Oh anyway, who are you?

Are you are you who are your top characters in Knives Out? Their rankings. Huh. I expected to not like Chris Evans much because, you know, like, he's a recognizable face. Sure, he's Captain America. Yeah. So I expected him to stick out more as Captain America, but I enjoyed him within the texture of the ensemble. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know, everybody was doing their damn job. That's what I felt. Like everyone. Yeah, I like that. I don't know. That's, I mean, I like that. Almost no one stuck out, but they were all like, they all felt like they were working together.

Yeah. And it did take me a minute to be like, is that fucking Don Johnson? Wait a second, what the fuck is going on here? Yes. And then I learned, yes, it is Don Johnson. It is always an interesting Don Johnson appearance. Yeah. Hmm Who's his his daughter is a thing, right?

Is she Madame Webb? Johnson's daughter. Oh, yes, not in the movie, but in real life. Yes. Yes, Dakota Is that actually Don Johnson? Although that'd be great. Yeah, that's a plot. Madam Web is not in Knives Out, right? But Don Johnson's real-life daughter played Madam Web. Yes. Gotcha. Okay. All right, that makes sense I found that out and I was like blown away because it's so crazy to see like the children of famous people Become movie stars. That's nuts never happens. Yeah, there's no nepotism. No. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is Star Wars Outlaws. Sure.

It is awesome. Newly released? Oh man, I was, I told you on Monday I went from being like, oh I should check to see when that, because I've been looking forward to it. There's a lot of buzz around it. Yeah, I'll check to see when it comes out. And it was like, it comes out Friday. And I was like, hell yeah. And then it was like, hey, you want

to spend an extra $30 and get it tomorrow? And I was like, of course I do. That's not a fair question. No, that's not fair. You're just stealing $30 from me. Yeah, so you're running around planets? You know what's great? Being Han Solo.

You described it as like Assassin's Creed but kind of in space. Yeah yeah it's a little I mean gameplay wise it's that story was it really is like hey I you know that whole good versus evil morality plays with space wizards what if you were just cool and did whatever you want and turns out that's a lot of fun. There's no space wizards? Not that I'm aware of. Haven't met a space wizard yet. It's just me walking around with my blaster, solving problems.

Does anyone have a lightsaber? Nope, haven't seen one yet. Wow. Here's another thing. Here's another thing. It's completely different to the way that I normally play these types of games. Because I'm usually like a stealth,

and then I have to like go and get each individual thing and do the whole thing, and then I have to be gone with nobody ever seeing me. That's my thing. Yeah, yeah, you like that sort of ninja vibe. Yeah, but now that I'm a Han Solo, half the fun is being like, they caught us as you're leaving and getting away while they're chasing you.

It is awesome! Yeah, getting a hasty retreat. Yeah! I love getting the thing that I want, and then starting to go, and then causing a problem, and then getting on my speeder and going away! It's the best. Sure. It is the best. So, anyway, glad you're enjoying that.

That's my review. It's fun to be Han Solo. Sweet. So, we got an episode to go over today. We're gonna be talking about the 27th. This is a big day. Okay. Tucker Carlson's on.

So we'll talk about that. Wait, Tucker Carlson was on Infowars and like nobody even talked about it. They're mostly promoting his live dates. Oh man. Yeah, it turns out it wasn't that big of a deal. This world is fucking... It was on Infowars. Moved on. Yep. So we'll get down to business on this and see how that all played out

But first let's say a little hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. Oh god. So first Wallacy Pong the Jollacy Yonk, Dollacy Yonk the Yallacy Dank, Pellacy Rank the Relacy Pank and Willacy Pank the Pellacy Pank the Pillacy Wank. Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Next, nower, the Squatch may have no heroes, but you will always be mine from your new wife, Eliza. Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Might have been newer. I apologize. Yeah, could be.

Next, the People's Princess, Louis de Pont-du-Lac. Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk. I apologize could be next the people's princess Louis de Pont de Lac. Thank you so much You're now policy won't I'm a policy. Thank you very much, but you get a little you get a little stink on that Took French And thank you magic trash can thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy. Thank you very much Thank you, and we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan So thank you so much to you people are my people and I love you more than Alex loves Andy. Thank you so much.

You're an hour technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. And don't forget, if you want to get your shout out, make sure you email knowledgefight at gmail.com. Toss that over there and Jordan will put you on a list. Yeah. We got, we got one front page. We got, you know, just letting people know. So, uh, I wanted to, like I said, I wanted to do an episode on Wednesday. Sure. And I think part of that was because we did a Dore on Monday, and you know it just felt kind of Half it was our show you know yeah

And so I wanted to get back to Alex But then the 27th happened and you know Tucker's on so you stop the presses sure we don't need to recap shit No, just got to get into this. He's the most important man in the world. Of course. And so yeah, here we go. We're gonna jump in. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us today. I am your host Alex Jones. We are 69 days the most important election in world history. And we have a massive broadcast lined up for you here today. It is Tuesday, August 27th, 2024. All right, Tucker Carlson is joining us in the third hour to cover all the incredible

developments. Ivan Reiklin has been involved in the congressional hearings that just started yesterday into the attempted assassination and ongoing cover-up. President Trump, he's got a lot of the latest information in the inside scoop. There's 100% a stand-down and an ongoing cover-up, never a press conference, never anything about the murder weapon or the attempted murder weapon. Nothing about how the patsy got his body cremated. It's insane.

They want us to forget about this. We're not going to forget about this. That is coming up at the bottom of the hour with an update from Ivan Raichlin. Oh, so we got a guest appearance from the most important man on earth. So you got to cover this episode. Yeah. And then now we got the future secretary of retribution, Ivan Raichlin. On top of that, this episode is going to be played in history classes future like generations will look back on this episode as a text.

I worry sometimes that the truth is not... You don't know how far into the future the future goes. It could be. It could be! I will feel really, really bad if I'm joking around and then Ivan Raiklin becomes the Secretary of retribution It will be a it'll be a rough day It'll be a rough day for all of us generally because we'll probably be retributed upon think there's some retribution

Yeah So incidentally the FBI and Pennsylvania State Police did hold a press conference on the day of the attempted assassination I was saying there's no press conference No, they did yeah Biden spoke that day and again the day after the day after the shooting the Secret Service FBI and Milwaukee Law enforcement held a joint press conference to address the shooting as well as security concerns for the RNC You can find all these videos really easily all of them are on C-SPAN Alex is just pretending none of this exists because lying about it is much easier as a way to make this narrative work

So that's fun. Yeah, it feels like if as a way to make this narrative work. So that's fun. Yeah, it feels like if anybody is covering it up or at least not playing it hard enough, it is Trump. Because if it was me doing this, I'm running the campaign and I'm just like, buddy, somebody tried to kill you because you're so dangerous, et cetera. We're playing everything is also a result

of them trying to kill me. You know what I'm saying? Look. Do you know why they got Harris? Because they had to, because them trying to kill me. You know what I'm saying? I look I do you know why they got Harris cuz they had because they couldn't kill me So they had to do that cuz she's just another option for trying to kill me You know like everything is cuz they couldn't kill me. Yeah, I think that it's good that he's not doing that No, I agree. But if I were running for president and someone shot at me I mean, it would be a situation where who knows what the fuck I'm gonna do.

We're in uncharted territory, I'm probably gonna go crazy and basically start yelling the street. Why not, why not? Absolutely, what are we, oh no, we're gonna run on policy, that's really what we're doing? They shot at me. Yes, exactly. What are you talking about?

Oh, we're gonna increase tax, shut up! right? Yeah. Oh, oh JD Vance is weird Yeah, you're goddamn right. He is shoot at him. Like what do you yeah, it would be non-stop for me It does seem strange that what he's doing instead is trying to sell digital collectors cards Almost like it's all scam shit always has been so Mark Zuckerberg wrote a little bit of a letter. Sure. I don't know if you heard about this. I did. I did.

Alex has too. Wow. Zuckerberg comes out yesterday and says, okay, you caught me because members of the administration have been lying. And Biden's been lying and Kamala's been lying and Mayorkas has been lying and the attorney general's been lying and Kamala's been lying and Mayorkas has been lying and the attorney general's been lying this year and last year in those weaponization hearings, weaponization of the censorship hearings, weaponization of the media

hearings. And so Zuckerberg, though, I guess doesn't want to perjure himself. So he wrote a letter yesterday saying, okay, yes, I was pressured. I did censor for the election. I election model. He also spent 450 some million to categorize all the names of dead people or folks that have moved out of district and gave them to illegal aliens and others to vote and stuff the ballot boxes and the drop boxes.

So that's ultra massive. Wow. So Zuckerberg didn't say that stuff in the letter. It seems it would be wild for him to admit to committing several, if not multiple, yeah, multiple felonies in a letter to a sitting congressman would be an interesting choice. So he just said that the Biden administration pressured them to remove content that would be dangerous around COVID and that he would resist those kinds of pressures in the future. This raises an interesting point because legitimately nothing in the letter that Zuckerberg wrote

is news. But I think it's the first time that we have this big CEO expressing personally that he felt pressured by the requests made by the government. And this is where things are kind of murky. Like, is it okay for a government entity to make requests that you can feel pressured to acquiesce to if you're the head of a big company? I would reframe this question and ask, is it even possible for a government entity to make a request of a big CEO that can never be experienced as applying pressure? That is to say, is implied or subtle pressure always a part of government communication? And I think the answer to that question is yes, which is why it's important as an individual

to know your rights when you're dealing with law enforcement. In the same way, by communicating with the government, Zuckerberg has put himself in a position where there's just going to be a feeling of pressure, and it's his responsibility to navigate that. Once the government is mandating what he must do, then it's far closer to coercion and that's a totally different conversation. But if requests are understood to be pressure,

I think that might be a natural and unavoidable part of communication between government and business. And in his letter, Zuckerberg even says, quote, "'Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down and we own our decisions, including COVID-19 related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure. He felt pressure, but there's no indication from his letter that the government acted in any coercive way. If I were Zuckerberg, I think I would feel constantly a little worried about pressure coming from the government considering all the you know

accusations of antitrust type activity and really monopolistic practices That's mind-blowing. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I would shit in the government's mouth pretty much non-stop I would shit in Biden's fucking mouth I can understand why you would have an approach of some hubris, but I would also think that the only thing that is potentially stopping you from being able to exercise your business exactly how you want to is theoretical government oversight. So I would be a little bit worried about that

if I were him. I mean, I think what's great about this is there's gonna be an awesome test case for why he should continue shitting in the government's mouth. And it's that about this is there's going to be an awesome test case for why he should continue shitting in the government's mouth. And it's that Google is now illegal and they're not going to do anything about it. He's written this letter to Jim Jordan too, which is a little bit of a towel. So Alex is really going to have to lie to make this letter fit his narratives because it's a bit of an uncomfortable crossroad.

Before that letter was published, Zuckerberg was the evilest of evil globalists who wanted to fist fight Elon Musk and who spent his own money to make databases to steal the election for Trump. In order for this letter to actually work the way Alex wants it to, he's got to make so many more confessions than he actually does in the letter. As it stands, it just kind of is saying that Zuckerberg's like, I'm a weak leader for a media platform, I'm super concerned about my public image. That's kind of how it feels. Yeah, that's more what it feels like.

Which is again, bitch, it's like, man, what's the point of being so super rich if you have to write a letter like that to Jim Jordan? What are you doing, man? It does ruin the fun a little bit. Go somewhere and just be rich as shit, and don't do anything that makes you write a letter to Jim Jordan. What are you doing man? It does ruin the fun a little bit. Go somewhere and just be rich as shit and don't do anything that makes you write a letter to Jim Jordan. You have all the choices in the world.

And Alex can't do stuff that's like, oh no Zuckerberg is coming clean. You pretended to go to Hawaii to find his compound. Exactly. Where the locals are going to murder him when the shit goes down. Exactly. Calm down man. That's what I'm saying. If you are Zuckerberg, be the guy with the shit goes down. Exactly. Calm down, man. If, that's what I'm saying. If you are Zuckerberg, be the guy with the compound.

Sure. Yeah. So, um, uh, Governor Abbott has made some news out of Texas, because he has announced that he's kicked a bunch of people off the voter rolls. Great. And so Alex talks about that here. It's just the level of lying, when you think they can't turn up the lies anymore when the lies backfire on them when the lies don't work anymore their answer is just get even crazier. And they've caught all these millions

of illegal aliens signed up and dead people to vote just in Texas alone. A bunch of other states found the same thing and just expunged them out the roles of the Democrats are going into total conniption fits filing lawsuits to keep the illegal aliens and dead people on the voter rolls. I mean you can't make that up. Just in Texas alone, Governor Greg Abbott removes over one million ineligible voters, including nearly 500,000 dead people and illegal aliens. I mean, wow. So recently, Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced that they had removed approximately a million ineligible voters from the Texas rolls. In the real world, this is something that happens kind of regularly.

Every state has a process in place to routinely trim the rolls, but it's obviously not a perfect system and generally folks that care about civil liberties agree that it's best to err on the side of not restricting voting excess. Making sure that everyone's on the roll who is a fully qualified voter, that's a process that would take an almost comical amount of time and organization, and the funding and infrastructure doesn't really exist to handle that on the state level. So in the case of Texas, they have processes like sending notices to potentially dead voters or voters who have moved and not updated their registration location.

It takes multiple times not hearing back to justify kicking someone off the rolls, which is good, but it's also kind of inefficient. The Democrats aren't suing Abbott. He's being sued by civil liberties groups that argue that his purge of the rolls is illegal because it's unclear what standards his office use to make the cuts and because it's a federal crime to remove voters from the rolls within 90 days of an election. This is a provision that's important because if it weren't there, it would be super easy for a state to widely disenfranchise particular groups of people by erroneously kicking them

off voter rolls close to an election so they wouldn't have the time to sort it out before it was time to vote. Or more simply, you could just create more administrative hurdles to suppress voter turnout this way. For instance, in this case, over 6,500 alleged non-citizens were kicked off the voter rolls, but no basis was given for determining these non-citizens. It's very possible that some of these people are people who, like, they have a right to vote and they've been misidentified, so they're having their votes deprived by this. It's very possible that some of these people are people who like they have a right to vote

and they've been misidentified. So they're having their votes deprived by this. That's very possible. Yep. Texas did this in 2019 when their secretary of state's office flagged 95,000 registered voters as being ineligible. As that number was examined closer, it was discovered that these people were almost all mistakenly flagged.

In one county, the elections administrator had been sent a list of 8,035 people who quote unquote shouldn't be on the rolls and the Texas Tribune reported that he ended up finding two non-citizens in the bunch both of whom marked that they were not citizens on their registrations but who had accidentally been added to the rolls by the like office side of things. Sure, sure, sure. Was not their fault. Right, right, right. They just chose everybody with the last name Garcia for some reason. So weird. No idea. What a crazy.

This was a big scandal and Secretary of State David Whitley had to resign when it all came to light because of how- Because it's illegal. Glaring this was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This kind of action is generally not motivated by a need to clean up the voter rolls, this kind of push to get people off the voter rolls. It's a political move to push illegal voting narratives and it's also a voter intimidation tactic primarily aimed at naturalized citizens who can vote but couldn't at some point when they lived in the country.

So like they may have answered, I'm not a citizen, to a past time they filled out a form. It's very easy to get a lot of these people sort of swept up when you're not careful. And that's kind of the point of doing this. If I was going to make a bet, I would say that if they made it so everybody could vote, no registration required, and you could vote as many times as you wanted. Nobody was going to ask any questions. 95% of the people in this country would do the exact same thing they're doing right now. We'd have about 45% show up to vote, but there would be a weird 2% that voted like 7,000 times. Like that's just who we

are as a people. That's entirely possible. That'd be a weird thought experiment. It'd be a weird, weird, uh, I wonder. Honestly, it would lead to more democratic outcomes. I think probably it would skew that way. Yeah. Um, so if you understand what Alex is talking about in the correct context, the story he's covering is about how he supports voter suppression efforts and wants

to demonize civil liberty groups who are trying to protect access to voting, which is nuts. That's not what he's supposed to believe. That's where he's at. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at the same time, though, I don't know how to remember the Alamo quite as well as kicking People off of your ballot in Texas. Yeah, you know what I mean?

So we go to a little Trump interview. Yeah that Alex plays a clip of and It's spoiler alert. It's him talking about how maybe you put Elon Musk in the cabinet Oh Oh great. And you can hear Alex in the background very obsessively yelling out about how many views Trump and Elon's interview got. So here's Trump. The election will be the most important day in my opinion in the history of our country. No, I agree because it's our country goes the wrong way in this election, I think we're doomed. And then he goes on here to talk about AI and a bunch of other key subjects. I'm going to give you my take on that.

Here's clip one. I read that Elon Musk said that he would accept a position in your cabinet. Would that have to do with artificial intelligence? If you chose any. have a great relationship. He's great. He is a totally unusual character. Do you know Elon? I don't. He's great and he's smart and we have to cherish our geniuses you know we don't have too many of them right but he is a brilliant guy and what he really would like to do

is get involved in cutting some of the fat. And he does know how to do it. And he loves the country. You know, it's just an amazing thing. We had a conversation the other day. You would know better than me, but I hear it had hundreds of millions of people. I heard it had the biggest audience of the billion from me would you say that's a correct

absolutely there's never been anything even close I heard 750 million people I mean numbers that are crazy and unbelievable though a billion plus clicked on it yeah he wants to be involved now look he's running big businesses and all that hundreds of millions watched all they could be cabinet I put him for the cabinet. I'd put him in the cabinet, absolutely, but I don't know how he could do that with all the things he's got going. But he can sort of, as the expression goes, consult with the country.

As the expression goes. So yeah, I like that Alex's, just his preoccupation. He needs to butt in bill it Yeesh, cuz that's what's important to him his views and attention. But can Trump hear him? Yeah, probably. Okay Well, I mean they're telepathically connected that is helpful I do think they we are dangerously close to the potential for creating a Real team of shitheads like Like you got Trump and Vance, and then in the cabinet you got RFK Jr. You got Elon Musk. Maybe Ivan Reikland is the Secretary of Retribution.

Hey, listen, we earned it. I don't think that they would make those choices, but it's bleak. It's just so funny reading an article now from anybody that's just like, oh, this is Harris's first big test. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, failing it again. This has nothing to do with her. Right. Do you think it's possible that Trump would make Elon Musk the Secretary of State? First test! Failed. Failed. Okay.

So Trump has failed a little bit of test on Alex's part too, as far as Alex is concerned. And that is that he likes nuclear power and Alex likes coal because we have clean coal Sure, and so Alex complains about that and I think that this clip is a really good snapshot of his feelings about Trump Okay, but nuclear is very powerful. Very good. Nope. The wind doesn't work. It's very expensive kills the birds It's right is everything around it. It's very very very very bad It's the most expensive energy, wind. And then every nine years, you have to replace the turbines. They're made out of steel, and they wear out.

But we will create tremendous electricity for our country, and that will allow AI to compete. And you're right. Whoever gets that, it's's gonna be a big advantage you know that's gonna be sort of the oil of the future and we have to be the main player. And there's not enough in every study currently for all the electric cars so you've got to have more electricity for that they want to ration it from us and give it to AI not a good idea we need coal we need now we

got thousands of years of it just here now Now let's go to Trump on free speech. I totally agree with this. We don't have free speech, then we just don't have a free country. So that clip I think really sums up Alex's relationship with Trump. He doesn't like what he actually says a lot of the time because Trump's positions on a bunch of shit should be deal breakers for him. When Trump talks, you run the risk of him saying things like, we need to move away from coal and use nuclear power to fuel the AI arms race with China, which Alex should oppose

on so many levels. On every level. There shouldn't be an AI arms race and Alex loves coal. Climate change is a hoax and we need to burn more coal. So why isn't Trump saying that? It's all bullshit. It's insane. Yeah.

On the flip side, Alex really loves edited packages of Trump over swelling music Where someone with a knack for marketing has spliced together Trump saying exciting things about free speech This is the Trump that Alex supports whereas the real person is just kind of a frustration Yeah, like you hear him and you're like, no, yeah Okay, cool. Yeah, it is a little bit like I genuinely don't care what a candidate is, what their name is, what their policy positions are. If I hear an interview with them saying like, I am going to kill Jordan Holmes' dog, that's the deal breaker for me.

The end. No more conversation. You know, you can't kill my dog. I think that's a little selfish. It is selfish and that's how I'm going to live. Okay. You can't kill my dog. You're a single issue voter. I'm a single issue voter. Your dog. Fanny lives forever. Okay. Yep. Well, Harris has yet to speak out on this issue.

I mean, if she goes the wrong way, she's lost a vote. I know that Tim Walz wouldn't kill your dog. That's what I'm talking about. So we got Ivan Reiklin coming in. Future Secretary of Retribution and overall the weirdo. And so Alex introduces him. Okay. This is absolutely huge at Ivan Reiklin on X, Reiklin.com. He's a former Green Beret Lieutenant Colonel, recovering lawyer, ultra marathoner operating at the intersection between national security, startups, politics, and law. And they've got a big conference coming up. That's not just congressional hearing to focus on the folks that are at the hearings.

The J 13 forum 8 26 24 12 p.m. Eastern live stream. We'll be talking about that. So as Alex has been hyping up Reichlin being on the show, he's been saying that he's involved with congressional hearings. As it turns out, this actually is about a live stream about Trump's attempted assassination that was held on the 26th by the Heritage Foundation, featuring Eric Prince, Dan Bongino, and Matt Gaetz. Right.

It was more or less a publicity stunt kind of thing, and Ivan wasn't even a panelist on that. But he is the Secretary of Retribution, so it makes sense that he'd be here with Alex as a representative I mean in terms of Retribution matters an assassination attempt is pretty high up there. It's that is where retribution Yeah comes in. Yeah So he's the person to talk to yeah. Yeah, I mean

I mean, phew. Eric Prince being on that list makes me feel feudal. And I mean that in the feudal lord sense of like, oh, this is the leader of the fucking, this is Game of Thrones shit. Oh, the Second Son's company is also being led by Eric Prince, and so he's got a fucking thing with the Game of Thrones. Like, what are we doing?

I sent a bird, I sent a raven to Peter teal Waiting on a reply 100% yes, what are we doing? So you know they're investigating Trump's assassination attempt in Pennsylvania. Yes, they're doing that right because I mean That's fake do they need to I think someone should ask some questions Oh, no for sure. Yeah, but the real investigation is fake right the fake investigation, which is this Heritage Foundation publicity stunt, right? That's the real invest. Okay. I like it Showcase to the American public and to inform the Republican conference that speaker Johnson had Appointed these other rhino individuals to perform the

official investigation of July 13th. Meanwhile, none of those people, practically none of those people on that committee have any experience in looking into this. And they were selected by design. I'm of the opinion, Alex, that they were appointed by Mike Johnson at the direction of Paul Ryan so that they wouldn't what identify and implicate Paul Ryan's and potential involvement what in this op if you will because the timing of it is so suspect so suspect I'm sorry Paul Ryan apparently tried to kill Trump I don't know the timing of it would be suspect if

we were 20 years ago 10 years ago something like that Whatever that was yeah, I was now the timing is not suspect for Paul Ryan's pretty shocked to hear Paul Ryan's name Yeah, that one's oh, yeah, so apparently he is applying undue pressure on Mike Johnson Yeah to make a fake investigation Yeah into the assassination attempt because they don't want those threads to be pulled that would implicate Paul Ryan Paul Ryan Paul Ryan Paul Ryan sure right Paul Rhino like is that who what was the last time you even heard Paul Ryan's name mentioned in a in a sentence that's important it's been quite a while.

It's been a while. And now he's killed Trump, so maybe that's, or he tried. So maybe that's the motive. It's quite a rebrand. From really boring vice presidential candidate to Trump assassination organizer. That would be a hell of a rebrand. So I think Ivan might just be a little bit nuts We laughed quite a bit on the last time he was on because he offered amnesty

Yeah, it was very kind of him. Okay. He said I think early September date as the cutoff for amnesty Which makes sense, you know, you can't just let it be forever. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you have to be fair but also There's a cutoff date. Yeah So Heath I think believes that Mark Zuckerberg wrote his letter in order to get in the window I like that. What's his name fake book when he came out with that comic yesterday? He's basically begging for mercy He's begging for amnesty and now I did a call-out saying that September 3rd is your last day for amnesty if you're going to come out as a whistleblower. It doesn't apply to the principles on my deep state target list. Mark Zuckerbuck is the principle on that list, which means even though he is apologizing for his genocidal participation with his censorship,

he's not going to get amnnesty if I have anything to do it Which I will as long as I'm alive I am going to guarantee maximum consequences for Zuckerberg's involvement in Censoring speech that ended up killing and murdering Tens of thousands at a minimum so I bet Zuckerberg feels real stupid here in that yeah He gave it his best shot and now to find out later on that's bullshit. Yeah, that's bullshit That's like finding out that you're a Nazi scientist, and you're not invited to America. It's the fine print Yeah, it's the fine print Zuckerberg didn't pay attention to the fine print the amnesty offer

It was the goddamn licensing agreements every time he just clicks I agree There is something about this Ivan that is Fun, you know like he's just living his dream He cut him and then the second part is he has this like fake book and a little Constantly calls the FBI FB lies. I love it. I love it. It's a little bit It is I like I like a little zinger. I like to get it in he's he's a showman Yep, so RFK endorsed Trump sure and this is a big deal according to Alex and the future secretary of retro Okay, in the time we have left how big because it's bigger than I thought would be I thought would be huge

I was giving the inside intel, broke it last Tuesday. But how big was this RFK and now Tulsi Gabbard's endorsement? I'm seeing an exodus now, because a lot of Democrats know that they're destroying their future supporting Kamala. This gives them kind of the cover politically to publicly speak out for Trump. I mean, I'm seeing an explosion of even more interest

and even mainline analysts in the Democratic Republican Party like Frank Luntz say this just gives it to Trump. We shouldn't be overconfident because, obviously, they've got a lot of tricks up their sleeves, but this was big. No, I saw that you broke it, and I'm glad that you did, because it gave me a little bit more time to kind of analyze this. If you look at the timeline from last weekend to Monday, or over the weekend, on Friday

is when the endorsement took place. And you saw the crowd in Arizona. They went absolutely nuts. I've never seen or heard such an ovation of support when RFK came on stage other than obviously for President Trump. Good save. So RFK endorsing Trump is a big deal. And it's a big deal in exactly and only the way Ivan

is expressing it. This endorsement makes RFK very popular among Trump fans, but doesn't do much else. His favorability among Republicans jumped 17% because they wanted to like him already, but they weren't allowed to because he was Trump's enemy. I just don't know what kind of demographic exists that was ambivalent about voting for Trump but then RFK endorsed him and that flipped them. This is a big win for RFK in that he expands his potential audience, particularly to a crowd addicted to strongman leader worship, but in terms of the election this feels like a zero.

I mean, there's another story of him cutting an animal's head off and putting it on something. I missed this one. I think it was a shark now. I think there's a story about him cutting a shark's head off and putting it on a boat. This is... I don't even know what to tell you. And furthermore, how do you... This is the dog thing.

Was it a bit? Probably. Okay, because if it was a bit, I'm going okay, cuz if it was a bit. I'm gonna allow it. I don't know I don't even know I don't even know but the thing is right. I still just don't get the the like, okay And now I'm going to endorse them your narrative is he murdered millions upon millions of people This is you can't murder my dog. I will stop but I won't vote for you, right? And I understand the political blah, blah, blah, I won't vote. Operation Warp Speed should be equivalent to your dog.

And they act like it, but I don't think it's sincere. No, how is that possible? How can you believe that they murdered 20 million people and then also be like, well, we gotta give them another go? I don't know. I don't know it's it's baffling Yeah, if you're RFK. This is exactly what you should be doing totally like I understand. You should not be using animals I Did I didn't I don't know the full story of this shark thing so I don't want to comment

I don't want to comment any further on it either so Alex says farewell to the future secretary And decides to take some calls before Tucker shows up. Okay. And so he wants to take calls mostly on Zuckerberg. Sure. And shit. Zuckerbug. We're going to take first time callers again today. And let's just put 10 on the board because the call system will take 20 plus calls. Yes! Let's get 10 calls to the board that way. Everybody gets on air and interspersed with the news. 10 callers we're going to take on this subject. We're opening the phones up right now. Election 2024. Zuckerberg coming out and saying,

yeah, they told me to censor and manipulate the election. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. You got me. I decided to meddle with the election. It's so interesting to phrase it this way to That's the way you're going to it's it's just this it's gonna be disappointing Yeah, Zuckerberg is not gonna live up to your expectations. Oh, you already have Musk You don't need another you don't need another tech billionaire guy social media platform also by any Possible metric you have internally if he says he's not going to lie, that is meaningless.

You think he's a liar. Based on the character that you have presented me with up till this point, I should not trust him saying I've been lying. You're saying that he's a liar, right? So why would you trust him now? Seems foolish. It seems insane. So there's still some, you know, I would you trust him now? Seems foolish. It seems insane. So there's still some, you know,

I don't think Alex actually gets that many calls. I'm starting to think that maybe spaces might be a tactical decision, going to those as opposed to going to calls. Yeah. Because you gotta kill some time. Sure. And why not?

Tucker's gonna be coming on. Let's listen to a clip of Tucker talking to Glenn Beck. Great. And they're globalist, and they're out to get us. They've dissolved our borders. So here's Tucker asking the most important question. Look at what's happening over in Europe with their illegal problem or their refugees

and how the governments over there are responding to the people. And you see it's exactly the same problems, it's exactly the same laws, the same responses, the same media response, and then you know that Joe Biden is incapable who the hell has been the president. Who is running this country? Well what you're seeing around the world is really not around the world, it's just in traditionally Christian countries. Yes.

In the West. It's in Christendom. It's not happening in Asia. It's not happening in Singapore. It's not happening in the Legos, Nigeria. It's not happening, of course, in China or Japan. These are still ethnostates. No one can test their right to be that.

But it's happening in the historic homeland of Christianity from Scandinavia, really all the way to Hungary and Central Europe is kind of the border. They held the line, but everywhere else, Ireland, what does Ireland do to deserve this? But the same thing is happening everywhere. And you think, well, is this a conspiracy? Is it a manifestation of spiritual war? That's my conclusion. You know, I have no real evidence, but I don't see another explanation that makes sense. I don't know,

but it's all happening at once. It's, as you said, exactly the same thing. It's much bigger than just, you know, the refugee agencies pushing people in because they're liberal and the media supporting them. They're liable to it's much. This is the end of a civilization. It's a spiritual war. And Tucker has no evidence of this, but he believes that he has a holy mandate to have an ethno state Yeah, this is pretty fucked up. That's great. Yeah, that's great. Good stuff. I mean stuff all around everybody I mean even take the stuff away about the ethno state business of this all sure and like let's remove that a little bit Yeah, and really just like microscope in on Tucker being like I think this is a spiritual war between demons and angels now

I have no evidence of that, but that's kind of what I think Yeah, you should be laughed out of the the public conversation Yeah, it shouldn't be allowed right if someone if someone was making this argument in favor of something that I was like pro For I would think like This is a bad way to make that argument. I Looks bad Okay Did we ever get full on like I apologize and I've resigned Letters from every person who wrote a Glenn Beck has changed thing. Uh, no. Never? No, but we've gotten over this.

Not one? This is, we've, we've, I think Glenn Beck's gone through like three cycles since then. See what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't think this should be allowed. No. Now he's the guy who's letting Tucker on his show say he wants an ethnostate. And it's a holy mandate.

And it's a holy mandate. Sure. And it's a holy man day Sure, and and let's not like just gloss over the fact that this is Alex Jones playing a clip of Glenn Beck and Carlson what people that he presumably Glenn Beck is a ripoff of him who the CIA was trying to set up Yep to like disempower Alex as an entity. Yep, and Tucker Carlson's a bowtie wearing Right, oh yeah Alex as an entity. Tucker Carlson's a bow tie wearing, crystal head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strange bedfellows. Doesn't even begin to cover it. Nope. So Alex and a caller, they get to talking about how they're soldiers for God, but really for Trump. That's not good. And if Trump doesn't win the election, they will use force to seize

the infrastructure. That's not good. That's not good. Hey, look at how God put his finger on the scale and turned Trump's head. Exactly. We just pray to God. That's why God is going to use Trump. Trump's given us all these comms, man.

Just the other day, what did he say about deputizing hundreds of thousands? That gentleman's talking about UN troops? Look at our army that we have in this country if we needed to activate it meaning meaning all of us You know what I mean? And that's right And we'll have governors and attorney generals and the president on our side And we will just simply go into the power plants and go into the corporate facilities that the globalist have seized and we will Just remove them legally and lawfully

God's going to move his mighty hand here shortly, Alex. I think we all know that. All of us believers know that. You can feel it. I think the hand's already moving. The dam's already... Eddie Bravo, Eddie Bravo and I and Rogan were on the phone the other night and Eddie was like, is the dam breaking?

And I said, Eddie, the dam already broke. It burned to the ground. Yeah, noted stupid person anyway. We were talking the other day. That's pretty blunt. Yep. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we cannot take power through legitimate means, our militias and a bunch of weirdos will take over infrastructure and seize it from the globalists. Yeah I do appreciate a good

removing of the veneer of democracy and returning to the truth of extortion. Hmm. Yeah. Well but like hey Dum Dum isn't this what you tried to do on January 6th? Yeah. Like that's exactly what they tried to do on January 6th. And the people who did it were arrested because they were the militias. You didn't have enough guys. They left their guns over at the other side of the lake. Yeah. The people who did it were arrested because they were the militias. You didn't have enough guys They left their guns over at the other side of the lake. Yeah, they chunked it So yeah, I don't know. It's just very it's very direct I feel like if you're listening to this and you can't really I'm not saying that they're going to do this sure But they're they can't pretend this isn't what they're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean

They can't pretend this isn't what they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, that is kind of the interesting thing about January 6th having happened and Trump still being alive. It's like, that's the subtext under everything. There's no reason to dispense with that as like, not even subtext, that's the text. Like, if I don't get what I want, January 6th. And I'll tell you how I know that, cause January 6th, you know, it's like it's, yeah.

But it'll probably be a little bit worse at least. I mean, or even more disappointing, it will be nothing. And it'll turn out that nobody actually wanted to do it. Alex single-handedly takes over a power plant. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. We might be doing a Yukio Mishima. Why not? Fucking go for it.

I'm just upset with how pretty clear this is in terms of the conversation. Strategically. I would just throw this out there. Don't put it on the air. Sure. I mean, it does, you know, Matt Bracken talking about how we're going to storm the White House. Not good.

I think that being recorded was tough. And this is kind of in that same territory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex Tucker, I think he is late or something. At one point, Alex is taking a call and he just completely ignores the person and is like, oh, sorry, someone came into the studio and was right. I think they were saying the Tucker is running a little late or something because he ends up just playing a bunch of clips about how Muslims are stabbing people.

Play music. Yeah, it would have been better. It would have been better. And if you try to show this thing when they try to arrest you Let's roll this video for radio listeners. I will narrate it Muslim man seen climbing into a woman's apartment. He ended up stabbing one of her guests. This is in Sweden So the wonderful it's so wonderful to see cultural enrichment in action I wrote in evil America the woman might have had a gun to protect herself in loving liberal Europe We can thank the state people are defenseless and cannot stop such wonderful things

Play it with audio Alex said I wrote you know like he's just recapping his racist tweets. That's basically what this segment of the show. Oh, no, he's reading racist tweets They like conceivably he posted himself or someone else posted from the Alex Jones to write. All right, so he's Doug Benson a yeah Yes. Yeah. Yes. All right, except he's not high Maybe a better show so this video that Alex plays is from last May Maybe a better show. So this video that Alex plays is from last May, 2023. And the attacker in this case has already been charged and sentenced to two years in prison for stabbing one man.

Once he's served his prison time, he'll be deported and barred from ever reentering Sweden. Alex is presenting this video as a migrant just randomly climbing in someone's window and attacking them. But there's more context here. This man was using a ladder to try to climb into his ex-girlfriend's home and attack her. The guy who got stabbed was a friend of hers who was trying to talk him down. This attacker was a danger to the people around him, but his status as a migrant has nothing to do with that.

The issue here was one of domestic violence, but Alex is using this to depict some kind of random migrant crime wave, even though it's over a year old as a video and doesn't relate really. This is a dude who's trying to incite hatred on racial and xenophobic lines. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I mean, if you really wanna like, just let down, let all of our labels go,

let all of our stuff go, all of our things that we get, you know, excited about go, I think a lot of our problems are really just our stuff go. All of our things that we get, you know, excited about go. I think a lot of our problems really just are domestic violence. There's a lot of it. There's a, there is a... Just men being too allowed to be. Yeah.

There's a, there is a, there's a lot of problems that spring from that well. Yeah. That is definitely true. Yep. So one of the problems that springs from all sorts of wells is Tucker Carlson. Nice transition. It was lazy. I like it. I don't think I landed it. You had some swagger to it. I liked it. I did. I did lean back. You did. You got a little lean back. I liked it. You got a little fat toe. I was trying to oversell it. So Tucker comes around

and Alex gives him the most important man in the world type of introduction. Well, the number one journalist in the world is our guest now live on this Tuesday, August 22nd, 2024 transmission. Oh, he knows it's true. He's smiling, blushing, the mighty Tucker Carlson from his compound in beautiful mountains of Maine. All right ladies and gentlemen he just came out that huge interview with RFK Jr. you can cut the excitement and suspense with a knife. The Deep State is in total panic mode we've only got him for a short time. Very gracious to pop

in with us before we get into all the Tucker, you have got a string of super successful live podcast events with special guests across the country. I'm gonna be with you, what is it, the 23rd coming up in Pennsylvania. I was talking off air, you think that's gonna be the biggest event. Tell us about the tour, I know it's already very successful. People go to tuckercarlson.com forward slash events

to get tickets, also VIP events for meet and greet. I can't wait to be part of this. Thank you so much for including me. Well, you're kind of the point of doing this whole tour revolves around you and that's not flattery. It's sincere. Oh, God. Oh my God. I would genuinely hope nobody were to reach out to the venue and let them know. I would genuinely hope nobody were to reach out to the venue and let them know

I Don't know I think well actually I do know I went to the venues web page and they were aware that Alex is on that Okay, okay, but they it's the second time they tried to book out right the other venue fell through I got you so now they've rebooked something that makes and apparently I guess this place is fine. This place is fine with it. Gotcha So yeah, that was disturbing though this tour You are the point of this tour if if there if there's ever been a level of Flattery that should get you punched in the face. That is it. Well, here's here's the the I Go so many directions with Tucker. I think that he is one of the most cynical fucking, insincere shits in the world.

Yeah, he's a true monster. But then I also think he's pretty dumb, but not that dumb. I can't tell if he's trying to manipulate Alex with that, or if that is couched in some sincere place that he's coming from. He's the type of dumb that knows enough To make you to get away with shit

You know like it is very it's very easy to never actually learn things if people just assume that you know stuff And so if you learn the stuff that makes people assume you know stuff, then you don't ever actually have to learn So then you just get to say whatever you want This is good to learn. Yeah. So I was really worried. When I hear Tucker say something like, you're the point of this tour, I'm like, I got to,

what do you mean? Yeah, that's a good question. Can you clarify on that? So he talks a little bit here. The point of doing this whole tour revolves around you, and that's not flattery, it's sincere. By the way being called the most powerful journalist in America it really is like being the best caterer in the Central African Republic. It's such a disgusting business I'm embarrassed even to be called a journalist but

um no the point is and I'm always amazed to be on your show because the FBI has been trying to shut you down for so long and you're still here so So that just shows the power of one man's determination to defeat the machine. God bless you for that. But you can't censor a live event. And I'll be honest with you, getting into details, obviously you were like the first person I wanted to have on in one of these stadium shows. And finding a venue for that, for the, you know, the disgrace, the dangerous, the terrifying Alex Jones, whose main crime was predicting 9-11 in detail, can't have him, no profits allowed. It's hard to find a venue.

Yeah, no shit. Most places don't want to be associated with Alex and has nothing to do with how Tucker saw an edited clip of Alex pretending to predict 9-11 in detail and now he thinks he's a prophet. If you're a venue, Alex is not worth the risk. He's a volatile drunk, his audience is not cool, and there's an unfortunately high chance that you might have to issue a statement after the show distancing yourself from what happened. If Tucker's version of freedom includes forcing venues to book shit like that, that seems dumb, and all I really hear here is complaining that it's trying to pass off

feelings of entitlement as free speech. And that's garbage. Also, Tucker's joke about the Central African Republic catering business, is that supposed to be a joke about the food being bad, or the catering businesses there being corrupt? Or is it making fun of food insecurity? Like I don't know what the point of that joke was. I actually don't know what the joke is, yeah. It seems shitty, whatever it is. Yeah, it seems shitty whatever

Yeah, no, I'm sure it's shitty. It seems malicious. Yeah, it's so weird cuz it's like oh man I can really go for like I know four restaurants at the top of my head right now. Oh, yeah What you were you were jotting a note I just I am blown away so I know how to lie I can lie That's fine lying. It's not complicated We all do it but generally it's like what you do is you have the kernel of the truth and you just kind of wrap it around and You know and you get it through you get across the line. I do not know how to bald-face say Shit to Alex the way truck the way Tucker does. That's the part amazing. That's the part where I

Almost end up buying into his bullshit a little bit. Yeah, like there is a part of me. That's like you You must have seen this video and you just accepted that Alex had this like prophetic It's the same thing as like okay if you're willing to say I think this is a spiritual battle between demons Okay, if you're willing to say I think this is a spiritual battle between demons and angels in the form of migration Yeah, I have no evidence of this But this is just what I believe to be true Yeah, if you're willing to be that upfront about how little evidence you require of anything Then maybe you did just see this stupid edited video of Alex and you're like, oh my god. Oh my god psychics are real Yeah, are you that dumb? Is it possible? No. Ah,

no, he's not. It can't be. Nope. It's just he has a true like I think but I mean, I've known that from so many rich people that I've met throughout my life is their ability to lie is unparalleled. And that's kind of usually how you get rich. It's it's like amazing it it is It's terrifying. It's in this case It's right where I I have the difficulty of finding my credulity. Yeah, like I just can't decide How stupid I think Tucker is no here. No, I know that there's a level of stupidity and I know that there's a level of I know that there's a level of stupidity and I know that there's a level of Malicious manipulation that he's doing right right. I just can't figure out exactly where that line is. Here's what you're you're you're going I think I'm not gonna say like I know 100%

I don't know Tucker but from my experience with like the people who run like hearing aid companies and people who do all that stuff Right. The trick isn't that they're lying, it's that they don't think you're a person. So they can say whatever, it's like when you're talking to your dog, oh, you're such a cute little, or like, oh, you're such a bad, the dog can't understand you. So you can say whatever you want. It is very much that kind of similar style of like, I can't lie to a person who I believe is a person but you buddy Don't worry about it. You know, like I've seen oh my god. Yeah. Yeah I don't even want to tell some of the stories that may be that may be the way Tucker just operates

Yeah, but there there's a real like it's impossible that he's fully just stupid Sure, because there are like just little moments or like that is definitely little moments where you're like, that is definitely, you know what you're doing. This is manipulative. It's hard to find a venue, and we found one in Reading, Pennsylvania, and I just thought, this is the whole point. This can't be censored. Google does not have control of a live event yet, and so people who are wondering, like,

oh, I've heard Alex Jones is the most terrifying person since Idi Amin. Is he really? They can come and find out for themselves. And that's kind of the promise of America, is that we're citizens, we're not slaves, we're free men, and we get to hear and decide for ourselves. That's a complete farce of a point. Wow.

Tucker is not allowing his audience to see Alex and decide for themselves. He's selling them on him and promoting Alex as a prophet. Tucker wants to pretend that Alex is this entity that's so challenging to the system and it's a revolutionary act for him to have him on the tour stop because that plays into Tucker's own self-image. He can pretend that the goal is to let the audience decide for themselves about Alex, but Tucker hasn't even looked any deeper than an edited clip to decide that Alex can see the future. Why doesn't Tucker look a little deeper and see for himself why people might not like Alex?

Probably because to do so would jeopardize their ability to make a shitload of money playing this false iconic classed role. Also, I went to check out this event. The website tickets are very still available. Ah, nice. This is not selling out quick. Nice. So that's fun. the website tickets are very still available. This is not selling out quick. So that's fun. That's such a good point that he's selling it. That's why I immediately went to the hearing aids

because the hearing aid people, they're the people who are trying to like, oh, you have a hearing loss, so let's try and help you. And then there are the salesmen who are just like, I met so many people who are like, these hearing aids aren't working. And then I find out that the guy hadn't even turned them on. You know, and it's like how could you be such a psychopath to sit there across from another human being and lie to their

face for money and then not even turn them on. It was insane. The same whether you turn them on or not. That's what I'm saying. That is exactly it. That's exactly it. Yeah, it's crazy It's a moral not immoral. Yeah, yeah, that's what they want to believe Yeah, and I just psychopaths tend to I think that when you are presenting things this way, you know what you're doing Yeah, like you're not having Tim Walls on your show One of your live dates. No, you're having Kid Rock and you're having JD Vance. Sure. So like, you know what you're doing, you dumb shit. Don't fucking pretend that this is I think everybody is entitled

to see everybody in here and make your own decisions. Is Alex so bad? No, you're the you're the maestro. You're the ringmaster telling them that he isn't this bad. Yeah, I wonder. I wonder if there is anything with more potential to out AI conversation Then JD Vance and Tucker Carlson talking. Oh, like what could they even possibly say to each other? I you know

They'll just say no. They'll just say non sequiturs back and forth and people will be like oh what an interesting conversation I think they don't talk like humans. I just had a terrible idea. What do you got tickets are very still available? No, we're not going. I'm not even saying going to Pennsylvania. Okay. I'm saying following this thing around like the Grateful Dead All right, well oh Man, it's hard to say no to that. Give up September. Yeah It's hard to say no to that. Do you think we could give up September? Yeah. Yeah, fuck it. There's a really small part of me that actually wants to do this.

Generally, we're mobile. I mean, we're recording out of your office. True. All of our stuff fits within one suitcase, and I mean that including all the things we own. Alright, let's think about this. Oh god, we can't. No. But we can't not. You know, the thing

that attracts me most to the idea of going to see the Stalker Live show is that there's no mediator. It's just like a live experience. You're just seeing thoughts. And in a live event, there's no mediator. There's nobody to there's no gatekeepers. No one to stop you from hearing. There's no one to twist the words Into a storyline that's been you know pre-approved by NSA and the Department of Homeland Security It's just like you and the person and I just love that I love the idea the the immediacy of it and the unfiltered nature of it. So Yeah, I mean I literally can't wait and I bet you and again, it's not flattering but sincere not one person will come away from that event in Reading Pennsylvania at the end of next month thinking oh Alex

Jones is as insane and dangerous as I was told they're going to come away saying actually I agree with all of that why is this guy so bad and then they're going to realize oh he's so bad because he's telling me things I kind of suspected were true I mean I was doing an interview yesterday with Bobby Kennedy Really an amazing interview and right in the middle of it. He's like, you know atrazine You know it can it can change the sex of frogs and I only he was on a roll So I didn't want to interrupt him I was like I think Alex Jones made that point like 15 years ago and was mocked

So when Tucker says that people will probably leave the show thinking that Alex isn't so bad and maybe the man just hates him because he speaks the truth, that's not because there's no mediator. It's because Tucker's the mediator, and that's the message he wants them to leave the show with. This is all just such a transparent charade and you almost feel embarrassed from trying to sell this shit. Yeah.

Also, just because it's fun. In 2020, Trump's administration cut regulations around atrazine, making monitoring pollution of public waterways much more difficult. In 2021, when Biden got into office, his EPA put new rules in place to limit the amount of atrazine that can be used, including prohibiting its use aerially. And when rain is likely to cause runoff, when that's forecast within 48 hours, you weren't allowed, there's a regulation against that. If you're a there turning the frogs gay voter, then Biden is your guy and Trump shouldn't be. Now the right wing Supreme Court that Trump put in place

and Alex loves so much ruled overturning Chevron v Natural Resources Defense Council that regulatory agencies like the EPA have way less authority to make rules and protect public shit like common waterways or the air from people who can make a few extra bucks by polluting. The net result of that is going to be much more atrazine that is spilled into public waters. Well, the good news is no one's even trying to solve that problem. Especially not the people who are yelling about the frogs.

Alex and Tucker are incoherent in their position here. If you want to have your fun with the they're turning the frogs gay stuff, fine, do it. You just have to vote for Harris and you also have to support the Supreme Court. I mean, yeah, you have to support just so many things. If you don't, you're just talking shit. Yeah. And that's fun. But we're all just talking shit. Kind of. Someone who's not talking shit anymore though. Yeah. CEO of Telegram. Oh, right. Well, he can't. Yeah, he got arrested. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Um, yeah, it's complicated. No, it's not. It is fairly complicated. But you know, it's not. We can talk about why you don't think it's complicated. I getcha.

But what is very uncomplicated is Alex and Tucker's version of the story. Okay. They have a bullshit version. Okay. When is someone going to call Alex Jones and be like, hey Alex Jones, you were right about the frogs, sorry? Well you're too kind, but already very successful. It's true.

Already very successful events shelling out quickly people go to Tucker Carlson dot-com Ford slash events they can find everything right there and it really is an act of resistance to do this and and to get out there in mass and It's really overall about the campaign. I think for free speech speaking of Elon Musk We have that I know you talked about this last few days the arrest of the head of Telegraph Which is even bigger globally right now than X, though X is growing already bigger than Facebook and Instagram. I mean, that really is another sign of major tyranny.

And I think a beta test for trying to arrest Elon Musk. We know Australia, we know Brazil, we know the EU are all talking about wanting to arrest Elon Musk. Well, yeah. And it's also really weird because I think of him as a friend. I mean, I really like him personally. Pavel, who was arrested in France this weekend, and basically, you know, Macron just said it out loud.

We arrested him because he refused to censor things we didn't like. Criticism of the French government, for example. These dudes are not dealing with this case honestly, and it's a shame because they have a leg to stand on here without lying. They want to present the idea that Pavel Durov, the CEO of Telegram, was arrested because he wouldn't censor speech like other social media platforms. They allowed anti-vax stuff and bigotry, so Macron had to take them down. In the real world, Telegram refused to cooperate with, quote, multiple criminal cases in France

tied to child sexual abuse, drug trafficking, and online hate crimes, according to reporting from the New York Times. The issue is that these crimes were facilitated by the platform of Telegram, and it appears that Durov has a pattern of being uncooperative with investigations into these crimes. This wouldn't be a huge issue if the communications on Telegram were all end-to-end encrypted, in which case Telegram wouldn't have access to the stuff that these investigators want. People think Telegram is all end-to-end encrypted, but it's not always. So Durav and his company have access to many things that could be requested by investigators. The question is whether or not this is something that you should be arrested for.

If you create a social network and profit off its operation and people use it to plan and do crimes, are you beholden to help authorities solve those crimes if you're asked? At what point do you take on responsibility for enabling or covering up a crime by not providing requested information you have access to? I think that sane people can argue both sides of that, but I resent someone like Tucker or Alex just creating this fake version of the story to make it fit the grievance narratives

that they profit off of. Like, I don't know. I think it is a little complex. No, I understand. In terms of should he have been arrested, I can see an argument for yes and I can see an argument for no. In a conversation wherein things make sense,

I totally understand why there would be ambiguity here. In real life, if you start a social network, you should probably be arrested. Oh. If that's the level that you're... I mean, I don't know what to tell you. If that is your bar, then yes, it is very not complicated. I don't think social networks should exist at all.

So I mean, also, like I get what you're saying, but how many people are in the position to be affected by this? All of them that I can think of probably deserve to go to jail for any number of, you know, like Al Capone got a tax evasion thing. Like I get it. I think tax evasion is wrong. But if you wanted to send people to jail for tax evasion, I would have more of a leg to stand on arguing against that for alka-fucking-pone than this

asshole. Right. You know what I'm saying? I see this issue as being something that I understand why law enforcement agencies could feel like you're not turning over stuff to us that is essential and you have access to. And so I'm gonna arrest you. I can see that.

On the other side, I can see how people would be like, this implicates free speech in a meaningful way on some sort of principle level. I can see that. And I wish that was the conversation Alex is having I get it And it's not no I read a couple of things that I read somebody who very earnestly and stupidly I was like This is worrying for you as well, and it's like hey come on shut the fuck up No one is worried because this asshole got her rested. I'm not worried because he got arrested never used telegram. Yeah

I get the free speech point. Sure. Sure. And I don't think that it's based in insanity. Right. I think Alex's version is based on insanity. I don't think it's I don't think it's based in insanity. It's based in the concept of a world that does not exist. That may be. Yeah. So Tucker tells the story of this CEO and how he left Russia. And this is a little bit complicated because Tucker has to be pro Putin. You know, yeah, you can't be both, right? He tries. Okay. So what's the definition of a dictatorship?

The definition of dictatorship is a government that arrests people for criticizing that government So Frank, I mean keep in mind Russia in 2014 because the Russian government demanded the IP addresses of people on the other side of the Ukrainian of the false flag You know overthrow the Ukrainian government that the State Department The State Department affected over there our State Department what and the Russians said we want you know their IP addresses and Durev said no, I'm not doing that where I'm not gonna give Information on my users to the government and so he left his own country Russia

So he's the good guy is Russia and he left because he thought the Putin government was too restrictive on the question of free speech And she was moved ultimately to the to the United Arab Emirates in Dubai, where he lives now. Which is not a dictatorship. But the irony is, 10 years later, he gets arrested by a so-called free country, France, at the behest of the Biden administration. There's no chance they did that without checking with the U.S. State Department and the National Security Council, the White House. They did that with the approval of the United States government, the Biden administration,

and they arrest the guy for allowing ordinary people to say what they think. So noting this little pattern with Tucker, which is just shit talk. You know, like, there's the, this is a spiritual battle, I have no evidence, it's just what I want to believe. There's no way they'd do this without the government, the US government, Biden, so therefore it must be the case that that is true. That's sloppy. He just does this all the time. See, but if that was true, that's fucking worrying. If I was French and they was like, wait, wait, wait, you're just arresting this guy because Biden in the State Department said that you should? And you're making up this bullshit to do it, that's concerning. That would be worrying.

Yeah. I think I would be slightly less worried if they had a legitimate reason to arrest him because of the non-cooperation with these investigations. And they reached out a little, a bering bering, hey US, can we do this? You guys gonna fuck with us? You guys gonna fuck with us?

I don't think that's as worrying, although it's a little bit weird, but all of it is Tucker just guessing things Well, but even then his point should be like well I support Russia having arrested him before he was born, you know or before Telegram was born Well see this is why it's complicated. No that Putin's a good guy, but then he's also the antagonist of the story that leads to Pavel leaving Russia. Okay, here's what happens a lot of times. People say things are complicated because if they were not complicated then they would have to just do the thing, right? So they complicate

things that are not complicated. That way they can say things are complicated instead of just doing the thing. Right. Yeah. No, I think that Tucker's like attempt to live in this space in the middle of ideas is complicated. It's complicated. But I'm using that term in this case kind of sarcastically. Right. Right, right. Very complicated. Yeah. Also that's not the definition of a dictatorship. I find it fascinating. Also, that's not the definition of a dictatorship. I find it fascinating. Also, Duraev wasn't arrested for letting people post what they think.

Your boomer grandpa in France isn't going to get arrested for posting a sick anti-immigrant meme. His company theoretically had information that would aid in the investigation into things like selling people, and they refuse to cooperate with that investigation The only thing that I think that explains Tucker's actions and the way that he's misrepresenting things is malice Yeah, I really think I I watch him and in addition to that like he's dumb, but he's not that dumb He's crafty, but this isn't all crafty. He doesn't leave some of this shit. Right? Right, right I also think he might be the angriest person in media. I think that's possible. Yeah when he laughs It's angry. It's cruel. Yes

He laughs like the way somebody that you've read about tortures dogs like he's a cruel monster almost everything in him even Expressions of joy they're dripping in resentment at anger. Yeah, I think it's like of joy are dripping in resentment and anger. Yeah, yeah. And I think it's like, he feels bad about his own career, and why wouldn't you? Yeah. Like, he tried to do the bow tie thing and got roundly mocked.

He was out, like, just kept on the outside in those days. And he's never really been accepted as normal. Yeah, I mean, I think what is fascinating about Tucker, and I think part of what explains it is that he is somehow incredibly wealthy incredibly famous and incredibly respected or whatever it is but he's never succeeded at anything he's never himself done a thing that succeeded everything that he's done fails well that's kind of not true I think but everything that he's done fails. Well, that's kind of not true. I think.

But everything that he has to do must burn the old thing. You know, like when he got some sort of a mainstream foothold, it was by almost making a joke and burning his crossfire. Sure, sure, sure. Because sure it made fun of him so badly with the bowtie right all right that he had to essentially burn that down yeah in order to have some sort of mainstream credibility and then you know you got his entire career being this neocon kind of persona there's a lot of

the Iraq war defense right stuff like that in order to create this new persona that he has he has to burn down His the past thing that he created so there has been some success, but it's at the expense of Himself. Yeah, I mean it's kind of a sense of like never or Maybe fail isn't quite the right word that I'm looking for. Maybe it's that Maybe fail isn't quite the right word that I'm looking for. Maybe it's that nothing is his. Yeah, nothing feels organic. Nothing is, everything is something that he took from somewhere else.

And because, oh, the bow tie didn't work, well, I'll do that. Oh, that didn't work, or it worked for a while, well, now I'll do this. And it's like, he's not a person. Right, I'm William F. Buckley, oh wait, no I'm not. What does heate about himself You know like oh I made this he interviewed cat turd Right, like he's the guy. He's the guy who's supposed to be defending the people who make things all these time

But he's never made anything He doesn't make things. He just talks shit. Yeah, and he's rich. Yeah, there's some truth to that But he interviewed cat turd Cat-turd makes things cat turd is a more valuable member of society than Tucker Carlson is it's arguable Yeah, also I was just flashing back to earlier. He was like, you know, I like that interview It's just you and that person. Yeah, there's no moderator. I'm just thinking about him and Putin. Yeah, it's just you and Putin. Just you and Putin. The entire government hanging over you. Yeah, little moderation. Just in that room. No moderation. Just a little moderation.

So look, Tucker has a standard for whether or not you're in a dictatorship. Right. And he expresses it here. Okay. We're, we really, I mean, this is a cliche, but it is because it's true. We are really the only free country left. We're the only country on the planet that guarantees free speech. And if we allow them to lecture us like Tim Walz at Creep did the other day, well, you know, free speech is not absolute.

Well, actually it is Tim Walz. And the definition of free speech is being able to call you a creep without being arrested And when you take that away from me, this is a dictatorship and I don't want my kids to live in a dictatorship So I'm gonna do whatever I can to oppose you Does he think that his right to call Tim Walls a creep is at jeopardy? Does he think that this is a risk that we can't call Tim Walls a creep? I'm concerned This is stupid. I spend a lot of my time calling a large number of people creeps and various other things. You can call people creeps if you want. That's fine, man. Are

you okay? Also, I think that free speech is not absolute. I think even free speech absolutists would probably argue that it's not. Eventually, yeah. Because you can't use speech. There are criminal ways to use speech. Yeah. Extortion is just speech. Yeah. I mean, there's no way that you're going to get to somebody who's like a free speech absolutist because there are three words, right? And that's your issue. Sooner or later, you're going to be like, well, now we have to redefine free. Well, now we have to redefine speech. Well, now we have to redefine all of that. And there's just no point. Right. This is just stupid.

Yeah, it's a waste of every time. It's stupid the point that he's making, and it's stupid to pretend like, oh you can't call Tim Walls a creep. Go for it, dude. Yeah, I mean it's like, it is so weird that they're all so obsessed with not being able to say things when it's like,

the only things you're not allowed to say are the horrifying shit that is deep within your heart that you're not dealing with It does feel a little high school angsty. Yeah, and that's why this That's why this next clip really like felt at home, and I think we we misunderstand why people become Partisan Democrats, we know why they become conservatives. I want to think for myself I believe in the autonomy of the individual up against the group Dignity created by God can't be taken away inalienable rights I mean that those are the core beliefs of people on our side the core beliefs of the people on the other side aren't really beliefs their

impulses that derive from fear and the core fear is I'm alone and powerless in this world I need protection from a group I'm going to join. There is safety in numbers. That's the reigning impulse on the democratic side. Let's all get together, and together we are stronger than we are alone. They fear being alone. These are people who sleep with the TV on. These are people who are just terrified. They're people who are on SSRIs and benzodiazepines. This is all shown. they're heavily medicated and neurotic because they're afraid. They don't believe in God, so they're terrified of death. They have no skills, so they're terrified of change. I mean, they've created an entire fake economy to elevate and compensate people who can't do anything useful. We live

in a world where people who come home to your house don't get paid anything relative to somebody who has no skills at all, who's working in the DEI department of a community college. Right, so the whole enterprise is designed to take fearful people who believe themselves to be powerless, who have no useful skills, and make them feel safe and appreciated. That's the whole everyone gets a trophy thing

that we used to make fun of, but it's actually very deep. And if I can just recommend to your listeners that probably the only four listening who haven't already read it, but Ted Kaczynski's original manifesto. Oh my god. I'm not endorsing male violence or hate by the way, or violence with you. But he did nail it. Oh for god's sakes, we're doing it. He nailed what was gonna happen with the growth of technology. We're doing it. But he also more than anything described the leftist worldview This helpless alone afraid

You know anxiety ridden terrified child in an adult body. That is the average leftist That's the mindset that drives their behavior and no one described it as well as Ted Kaczynski. Okay, man Okay, cool. We got Tucker Carlson being interviewed on Alex Jones extolling the virtues of Ted Kaczynski's manifesto. Am I nine again? What is happening? This is great.

What is fucking happening? I believe demons walk among us and also Ted Kaczynski really nailed my enemies. All right, fine. Woo! That's such a great conversation ender. You know, like, well, you know, you haven't read all of it. No, no, we're done. Get out of here. Hey, I'm gonna do this live show

where I'm talking to Kid Rock about Ted Kaczynski's manifesto. Ted Kid Rockzynski. Yeah, this sucks Damn It's all it's almost like a record scratch kind of moment it I would I would be if it's beyond it's so unfortunate because it's like if I was writing that I would be Furious that I couldn't you would be a little hacky. Yeah, I'd be like ah this is trash Oh, I'm really gonna use a Unabomber reference. That's really what you're doing in 2024. Jordan. Good job. Good job Yeah, good job Tucker and here we are So Alex also doesn't want to dwell on this too much because it's the fucking Unabomber. Yeah, and so he asks like hey, man

What would have happened if Trump had gotten killed and so they shift topics you follow the trajectory and you are actually good at predictions You are smart. So don't play yourself down here. People really want to hear what you have to say. What would have happened? God forbid if they'd have blown his head off in Butler and then tie it into your statements. You can elaborate on the political realignment that we're clearly seeing globally right now. Gosh, I mean, well, that would have been the national. I mean, keep in mind that took place at a moment where they were still planning on running Biden and the numbers were bad. And so killing Trump was the national crisis I referred to that they will always resort to out of desperation if they think they're going to lose power.

And that would have been a crisis. I mean, first of all, it resulted in the death the death of an innocent, of a man, okay, which is always a tragedy, no matter where it happens. I'm sorry, but it did. But the trauma to the country, watching a man get shot. I mean, the great thing about the Zapruder film is you really have to watch carefully to see the gore in it,

to watch the top of the president's head come off. But Trump was being shot in HD, close up. If he'd been shot in the face, that would have been the single ugliest, goriest, most horrifying thing 300 million people had ever seen. And that's just bad. That's just bad right there.

It's pornography on a moral level. OK? It'd be a snuff film. It would be a snuff film. And watching that stuff is bad for you, actually. It damages you, in my opinion. I know that. So that.

But then this sort of subsequent effect, the ripples out from that, the chaos, the people realizing, wait a second, they just murdered the only hope of the disenfranchised half of the country. In the 2020 election, Biden voters owned 70% of the wealth in the United States. Trump voters 30%. So really this is an economic divide. Tucker is using a misleading statistic there at the end. He's taking this from a Brookings Institute study from 2020

that found the counties that ended up voting for Biden, quote, equal 70% of America's economy. This is not the same thing as saying that Biden voters control 70 percent of the wealth in the country and Tucker knows damn well what the difference is. He's been in this media game long enough knowing he's misusing a fucking headline in a statistic. I say less of this worrying about assassinations being aired on TV and more quoting the Unabomber. Yeah. Come on man man. Yeah, it is weird to think about, like, a full quarter of American presidents have been attempted assassinated, at least.

You know? That's a high rate. Maybe we should think about what they do. Yeah. I think there's something about the job that maybe makes you more likely. I'm just throwing that out there. I think maybe you get a lot of attention. The focus of a lot of people's strong political

feelings. I'm just saying that most jobs, I would almost argue like all jobs have a way lower than 25% attempted assassin rate. What percentage of jobs are called the leader of the free world? You get a lot of attention, a lot of focus put on you. You know what? You're not wrong. A lot of blame for a lot of things. on you. You know what? You're not wrong. A lot of blame for a lot of things. You're not wrong. You're not wrong.

Now, I'm going to come to Tucker Carlson's aid here and say, I agree, but showing a murder on TV is bad. Yeah, that would have been rough. That would have had a negative effect on public psyche, and I agree with that. Yeah, I don't think many people ever got over the Challenger disaster. No, people talk about that being a deeply talking about it And I was not alive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do agree that someone being shot on TV is bad But I technically we did kind of see that even though the you know, the guy who got shot and died wasn't close up

Sure or anything, but He just kind of ignores who knows. Yeah anyway It just kind of ignores that. Who knows, yeah. Anyway, this idea that he has where half of the country would have seen their only hope be killed. Yeah, that's no good. No. Yeah.

It's really, really sad. You would have a hundred and whatever million people who have no, nothing. They have nothing. They have no political power. They have no, you know, nothing. They have nothing. They have no political power. They have no economic power. The only thing they have is Trump. And now Trump's been murdered. I mean, I don't know.

You know, I don't know what would have happened then, but it would have been. I do. It would have been a turning point in the, an abrupt turning point in the life of the country. You would have unleashed chaos. Who would do something like, by the way, who would unleash chaos on a country? Like how evil how you have to be to even consider doing I was

about to say that that shows it's you know almost have been crazy to start a war with Russia it just shows how reckless they are reckless and callous and evil so it's just really like I have a lot of less than complimentary views, let's say, of Trump fans. Sure. And I think it's insulting to say, like, without him they don't have anything. Yeah. I think he has a more negative view of Trump's base than I do. Yeah, no, absolutely.

It's really, really fucking sad. Well, they have to hate them, because that's the only way you can get away with lying to people like that. It's the only way we can abusively sell them a hearing aid that you don't turn on. I mean, right? Don't you have to just have a general distaste for humanity if you're willing to lie the way that Tucker does? I suspect. like there's no way there's no expression of love that is like What Tucker does? There is no way to express a Generalized love for your fellow man through any of the things that Tucker has ever done

No, no, and that's why his smile is angry. I mean, yeah, it must be like there is I but maybe he's the most Alone human being that's ever been created. How could you not be? Him and RFK are the only two people who have ever been so alone. I mean, it's a choice to be a young up-and-comer and wear a bow tie. I think you're courting your own loneliness. And it speaks to a deep hole, a bow tieie shaped hole in your soul I genuinely like the more I the more I encounter it the more I truly believe that to grow up rich is child abuse like it is a genuinely

awful thing to do to a child and then then to have them grow up thinking that that's a good thing is even worse and That leads to where we are I agree with some of the baseline thoughts that you're coming at this from, but I think the problem is growing up in poverty could also be described as child abuse. So you got to find that medium. Where is it ethically right to have a child? I think the point that we're making is capitalism is not going to be the good answer in this final tally. Probably not. Tucker likes it though. So he seems to have really reached the conclusion that they,

the globalists or whoever, Biden, all of them tried to kill Trump. And that's fine for Alex. That's silly for not good for Tucker Yeah, they allowed him to be shot. That's just a fact the Biden administration in charge of his bodyguards allowed him to be shot You say well, they didn't know that that was what is what gonna happen. They weren't coordinating with the shooter okay, I'm willing to believe that it doesn't change the fact that they allowed it and In other words if I if I let my toddler play by my swimming pool and go to Walmart for an hour and he drowns, I didn't drown him, but I allowed him to be drowned. It's the same crime. Exactly. So that's what they did. This sounds to me like a guy who loves individualism and personal responsibility. Yeah. Biden is

abstractly to blame for some dude shooting at Trump because he didn't stop it. Do you think that maybe there's a salient difference between the Secret Service and Trump and you and your baby with the pool? If Tucker doesn't understand the difference here, what he's suggesting about moral culpability is staggering. Yeah. This is nuts. I mean, what's even crazier about it to me is like the more you study these types of events,

that kind of thing, honestly, if there were 100 people out there with the intent to assassinate the president and do not care if they live or die, that president is going to die. It doesn't matter what this, the secret service can only do so much. They can only do so much. It's more of a deterrent for people who don't want to then face the consequences of stuff. For people, if you just walk people towards, I mean, it's just, it's chaos. And we've talked about this too. A lot of the times, you don't hear about someone maybe

getting arrested with a gun at some place they shouldn't be at, where the president or former president was, because that's not the kind of stuff that's great for the news. They keep a fair amount of threats to the president's life. It's a wise thing to keep it close Yeah, and so you hear about things like this and Maybe well, I mean they stop a bunch of them Before there's one to the level of Butler, right? Right, but I mean the thing about the Butler one is that it's from a distance.

You know, like, if you're gonna measure that, Reagan was right up close. Andrew Jackson had two guns jam on him. Two guns jammed face to face. And that's why you never try and assassinate the president of the South, or on a hot day. Because of the humidity. Because of the humidity.

Right, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think, I think that there's something incredibly dumb about the way that tucker is approaching things yeah and if you extrapolate his logic out from the blame that he's assigning i don't i don't understand how you could justify anything like You know, like, what isn't okay? Well, I mean, none of it's your fault. Can you make guns? Are you allowed to manufacture guns?

Like you know that someone irresponsibly handling that gun could kill somebody. Sure. So you got to watch over everybody who has one of those guns if you're a gun manufacturer, right? To not do that is like leaving a kid by a pool. That's... I remember getting high and watching commercials where if you get high and you leave a kid by the pool, you're in trouble. Yeah, that's like an egg. Yeah. So look, I just think this is

dumb. I think that Tucker should I feel like he wants to be taken more seriously than this and his actions don't deserve it. Yeah, I don't know, though, though like cuz he's not even allowed in the or not Allowed, but he's not in the real world anymore, right? No, but I think that he believes and I hope Erroneously, yeah, he'll be allowed back if he burns this past Yeah in order to create whatever the next future is it'd be hard trying to pull that Glenn Beck move or something by disowning all of this. But I hope that that's not the case.

I hope he can't do that. I mean, yeah, the unfortunate part is that the roadmap exists and it is almost always successful. Right. Yeah. So bad luck, Tucker. Bad luck. Yeah.

So we have one last clip, and I think that this is really you know Tucker Just a cynical fuck. Yeah, it's like so many things in politics like everyone in politics is lying on some level They're all creepy. I got it. They're all falling short of expectations. None of them like as much of an idealist They're all kind of cynical but the ones who do what you want them to do like take the win, you know Just take the win. You know what I mean? Look, just take the win. It's good. I can hear all these people like, Oh, Elon is not as committed to free speech as I am. Well, that's true. He's not as committed to free speech as I am, but I don't own anything. I'm just a yapper on the tube. He's done more for free speech than anyone in my lifetime. So let's just take the win. You know what I mean? Don't look a gift towards to the mouth. Enclose him in gracious with the time, Tucker Carlson., I mean, like this is not fine when there's demons. You know what I mean? You can't you can't be like, hey, I have a cynical analysis of good enough whenever like everything is based on on truth and everything is supposed to be so based on this the importance of virtue and you can't have that like don't look a gift

horse in the mouth kind of mentality right right but i mean more more to the point if the fight is between good and evil you can't take the w because there isn't one the fight is still going on you didn't win right you that's just another part of the fight and if if you feel like you won and the fight's still going on there's a good chance that the fight. And if if you feel like you won and the fight still going on There's a good chance that you actually lost because if you'd won the fight would not be going on anymore. You understand? Because the evil one is the one that wants to keep fighting forever because that's what they do. I guess I think I have no idea in is um Elon musk really doing much for free speech

Is that that's a question that I think is worth analyzing for Tucker. I think that he's definitely allowed a lot of distasteful speech to become more prevalent. Is that a function of increased free speech? I don't know if that's true. On actual free speech issues that are really important, Elon Musk doesn't seem like he's really that much better and may even be worse. Oh, absolutely worse.

Than previous incarnations of Twitter. Right. He is more, if your sort of barometer for free speech is how well does my bigot nonsense profit? Sure. Like how easily can I disseminate this shit? Yeah. Then he's great for your bottom line.

Right. But if it's actually about free speech, then you need to recognize that you're using free speech as that proxy for your marketability. Didn't he ban cisgender? No. Well, okay. Okay, never mind. My bad, my bad. It's complicated. It's complicated, man. But that's the thing. That's the thing. That's what you really come down to. No, you don't believe that Operation Warp Speed killed all these fucking people. That's your brand. You don't actually believe that Elon Musk is fighting for free speech. That's your brand. You don't believe any of this. You don't believe you're fighting for free speech. That's your brand. You don't believe any of this.

You don't believe you're fighting the fucking devil. That's your brand. Yeah. And I don't know. It's exhausting and it's embarrassing because Tucker wants to be more than this. You can tell. Yeah. Alex maybe is right at home with this.

Yeah. Profiting off living in the sewer basically is kind of Alex's milieu. Yeah, you know, like the more I think about this, the more I think Tucker's description of Democrats is is oftentimes him telling on himself. Oh, that kind of idea of like, these people just want safety and they just want to be part of a group is so much like yes That's why you do all of this shit is because you want this group of people to love you, right?

That's you man, right? And I think that there's a certain amount of that desire to belong and we all do that Everybody right there's no political side. That's why he's so crazy is because he thinks that that's yeah, right. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. And it's Tucker's failing to grasp that that desire to have the group is good. Well, but all of that does not have to be based in fear, right? It can be based in love. It's awesome. It can be based in concern and desire to see other people and and everyone Live as happily as possible. That's not based in fear all the time

No, but it has to be if you read the fucking Unabomber and you're like, this is this is heavy This is deep stuff about my enemies. Yeah that to read the Unabomber manifesto as Tucker Carlson That would fuck with your head. Yeah, there's no way to there's no way to lionize the read the Unabomber manifesto as Tucker Carlson, that would fuck with your head. There's no way to lionize the Unabomber and be Tucker Carlson without losing your mind. Well, he's trying. Eh, that's a good point. And it's not working well.

It's not going great. And apparently tickets aren't selling that great. So I guess this is a plug for Alex's appearance on Tucker's live show in Pennsylvania. Oh, shit. You'll see it certainly not sell in those tickets. I don't think our audience is rushing to the gate. No, please, don't go as a bit.

Do not go. It won't be funny. No, it won't be funny and you'll hate yourself. Anyway, um, we might go a bit. That's because it would be a bit. We're not. Oh, man. I'm putting the X down on that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, well. Yeah. We'll be back though for another episode, but until then, we have a website. Indeed we putting the X down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh well. We'll be back though for another episode but until then we have a website. Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back but until then I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo yeah woo yeah woo. And now here comes the sex robot. Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.