Knowledge Fight - #963: September 11, 2024

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in Alex celebrating the anniversary of 9/11 by discussing the debate between Trump and Harris, and announcing that he's raffling off a truck.

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Hello, Alex. I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and, stop it. Andy and, Andy and, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around and worship the altar of of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe. Oh indeed We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you So what's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is I finished the first season of poker face and that's great Yeah, I we've talked about this a little bit on the show. I watched glass onion and knives out I think I might be a Rian Johnson guy.

I don't know anything about him except these two movies and this show. I'm into it. I dig these products. I'm excited because you're eventually on... Here's what I'm excited for. You're on a pathway that leads you to being on a couch next to me watching the last Jedi and it's gonna be great I think I've seen it that's I didn't say oh for the first time right I think I've seen all the Star Wars movies I think I know that I've seen all of the old ones sure which includes the

prequels right because now we're all old yes but I think I've seen the last three two okay also all right not three two also right but this was this was before Right, because now we're all old. Yeah, but I think I've seen the last three too. Okay. Also, not three too. Right, but this was before you found out you were a Ryan Johnson guy. True, true. So now you know. Before I'd been introduced to Benoit Blanc.

Yeah, now you know about the Blanc. Now you need to know about the Star Wars. Is Daniel Craig somewhere in that Star Wars movie? That's what I'm asking you. I don't actually, I actually don't know. That might be one of those things where if you watch behind the scenes, they're like, Daniel Craig wanted to be on the set

for one day. He's hiding in the background. There's a Storm Trooper smoking a cigar. Oh, if he was one of the Red Storm Troopers, that'd be fucking dope. Yeah, but I just really like, you know, I like a mystery show. I like that whole aesthetic.

Natasha Lyonne's great. She is great. It's a lot of fun Without any spoilers. I just thought it was a very satisfying also just the arc of the season great. It's great How about you? What's your right spot? My bright spot is tomorrow getting my first appointment with my tattoo Oh my leg done Whole whole bottom, you know knee down sure getting my leg. It's I'm very excited got those so I've always been a huge fan of the Old ink wash paintings from you know, Sean sure

Because my Mandarin is great. Sure And so I was thinking about that. It's thinking about my one of my favorite poets Han Sean I was thinking about mountains essentially is what I'm trying to say. I was just focused on mountains for a while and then yeah I decided that I wanted one of those. A mountain? Yeah but I couldn't afford one for obvious reasons so I got a tattoo and my the artist that I like Caitlin Drake McKay turns out she learned all about the ink wash stuff. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What luck. From school and all that stuff. So we're talking about it and I wanted it, I wanted that kind of thing. But in her style, you know, from when we're alive, which is now, and not several hundred years ago. Merging the present and the past. That's the idea.

So tomorrow is when I'm going to see what it is. Nice. So I'm getting my Sean. All right. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm very happy for you. I'm excited. It's very interesting when someone says, I'm getting, like, tomorrow I'm getting or whatever

it is. Yeah. It could go, like, you know, your brain's Google autofill. Could go anywhere. And the first thing I thought you were going to say was, get my wisdom teeth out. I don't know why. Interesting. But that was stuck in my head.

Tomorrow I'll get my wisdom teeth. That's interesting. Do you still have your wisdom teeth out. I don't know why. Interesting. That was stuck in my head. That's interesting. Do you still have your wisdom teeth? I don't. I had them out. Good for you. And then I read recently somebody's like, why are we ripping everybody's wisdom teeth out? And nobody had a good answer. I didn't know that this was a controversial subject. Turns out probably doesn't make any sense.

Shit. I don't know yeah someone i i got that root canal and then someone very kindly brought up to me hey you know you're the people who say root canals baby that they're not what you're supposed to do great cool every time i learned about something the thing that i knew for my entire life turns out to be wrong yeah sweet great awesome tattoos are healthy and I hope it goes well I'm excited yeah you know how st. Louis I am how st. Louis yes my tattooist Murphy Lee lyric I have a map so Jordan today we had an episode to go over mm-hmm we're gonna be talking about September 11th

okay 2024 all right not 2001 sure you've already done that yes we have we're talking about Wednesday uh-huh on Alex show, the anniversary of September 11th. Probably, you know, I think in the context of his career, probably one of the biggest things. Yeah, I would say so. In terms of being the building blocks of what he's got now. Wow, that's an ironic... Yeah? Yep.

Because, you know, like his career started career started obviously with stuff about Waco and rebuilding the church and Carmel and stuff. You know, like there's that shit, but that never would have gotten us where we are now. No, I mean... 9-11 Truth-er stuff is really the bedrock. It is interesting to think that perhaps 9-11 Truth-er- ring and you know just W and Cheney together are the reason that patriot lore became all of all lore. It became so widespread in the way that it has there. There's such an increase in its

place in the market. Yeah I would very strongly argue that like all of the disinformation network space and all of that stuff that's been created out of that was really a result of Bush and Cheney in the Iraq War. You know? Yeah, I think especially the effect of the combination of 9-11 and the Iraq War in as much as like deeply traumatic events paired with sort of untrustworthy responses to them. Yeah. Create a just a vast space that something like Alex can thrive in. Yeah. Why would you trust the

official story when the official story is untrustworthy? It's just we're stuck with this asshole instead. Which is not trustworthy either, but eh, here he is. Here we go. So let's get down to business on this here episode, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wanks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, my boy Bath Saltz, thank you so much, you're now a policy wank.

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much! Thank you! And we had a tech degree in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Heather, continue using Knowledge Fight as the carrot for washing your face and keep an eye out for domestic Tyler who? demonic Tyler's demonic Tyler's right demonic Tyler's look out You're now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk

Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. I thought that Domestic Tyler's

was a play on domestic terrorists, and so my brain just jumped to that. Didn't even see Demon there. I immediately thought, when did they domesticate Tyler's? Was it first okay, so like I thought wolves was about 30,000 years ago, so I put Tyler's at maybe where do you think horses were? Do you think wolves or horses came first I think I don't know. I think anything I say will be 100% of

guess and any type of like backing up of it will be bullshit so I'll leave it to the experts. I'm not even making fun of you I think they probably were concurrent. I have no idea. Someone was working on both at the same time. I'm fine not knowing. So we start off here Jordan like I said it's September 11th. Yeah. But it's not just the anniversary of the terrorist attack. Sure. It's also the day after the first debate between Trump and Kamala Harris.

Right. And so Alex obviously has a number of thoughts about both of these subjects. Yes, I imagine so. Waging war on corruption, crashing the lies and disinformation. You found at the tip of the spear worldwide, driving forward the truth to the heart of the beast that is the New World Order. It is Wednesday, September 11, 2024, 23 years to the date that the deep state attacked the World Trade Center complex and the Pentagon. And I was there as we speak as the towers fell. Wait, you were there.

Told demolition. What an epic debate last night. It's going to take some real work to cover all the angles. Trump won, but it was three against one and Kamala lied about everything. He told the truth about everything and that's easy to Monday morning quarterback. It she has such low expectations that because she was able to just pair it off stuff and snarl at him. She looked more impressive than she normally does but that's like 100 pounds of dog manure versus 80 pounds of dog manure

in your yard. It all sucks. It's all terrible because the expectations were so low. Oh my gosh. She's done it just a totally fabulous job. She did a pretty good job. Okay. Yeah, which is which is better 80 or a hundred pounds of manure. Yeah depends on if you need to fertilize the crops I mean, that's that's depends on if you have a use for it It's a little ambiguous if your expectations are low you would you know low 80 pounds, but I mean maybe You would prefer your expectations are like well. It's probably a hundred pounds Oh, it's only 80 pounds that I have to remove from my lawn right. It's very difficult to understand Well, I mean if you have no use for something sure then having more of it is bad

But if you have a use for it if you have something you should find a use for it. I think The Alex is struggling because the debate did not go well for Trump Okay, I think pretty much across the board people were like this is Pretty bad. Why would bad look he looks bad. How could it? Yeah, why did it happen? Yeah I don't know that that was more my thought when I was watching it. I was like boo. This is grim. Yeah Sure Kamala Harris did fine. Sure Trump. Trump is yelling about how everyone's eating dogs and I Recognize that we still have to go through the motions

But if one of the Uruk-hai is running for president, I don't think man flesh is back on the menu boys is like, oh, okay Well, then we've got this one Dark This one. It was dark. I always try and keep a little bit of perspective. Yeah. And like, I understand that we've gotten where we are by degrees. Sure. And it is just sort of gradual and over time that this is-

Frog boiling. Hey, I mean, I have to correct you because I've corrected Alex on that one. That doesn't really happen. I understand. We've gotten here as a slow progression, and if I imagined seeing this when I was younger, it would have been unthinkable.

Yeah. This would have been so shocking. Yeah. His behavior, he's like, they're not really serious about this, right? Yeah, I mean, that is fun. That is funny, because this is pretty much How I thought this was gonna go

I mean as far as a general direction goes I think I was pretty right on from the from the jump I don't know if I'm right about events or anything, but this is where I thought we were going We have one candidate who yet can have some pretty good disagreements with if you want, but is being a politician. Sure. And then you've got a lunatic. Yep. And that's essentially the dynamic that we exist in.

I mean, it's perfect. It's perfect to have a lunatic because then what the lunatic does is reveal that actually the media is fucking insane. Like the idea of any of them have it like, well, we're going to fact check that it's the Uruk-hai. Yeah. No, I mean, I don't disagree. It's just, I don't know what the answer is. Change. Once the Uruk-hai is there, have the entire media go, Oh shit, we have been pretending they're not orcs our entire lives. Well, but- We're stupid. Well, but then the issue becomes, like, we don't really have the power to say, you're

not a legitimate candidate up there. It would be a shock to them if they discovered that they did have that power by just doing that. So, look, here's the deal. Yeah. Trump won. Sure. Obviously.

Truth. About 70-30? Oh, that's- what? Very generous. What? Yeah, Trump won sure obviously truth about 70 30. Oh that's What? It was crazy Now could have Trump totally dominated and done better yeah Trump won by I'd say 70 30 If he'd have brought up three hundred twenty five thousand missing kids and said you oversaw it You're the greatest human trafficker in history with your cohort, your partner in crime, Majorcas, and when I get elected, we're going to find those children, we're going to prosecute you for stopping

the DNA testing and telling the crime gangs to come in and giving them money. It would have been a 100. You would have politically gutted her and decapitated her nonviolently politically, that's a metaphor, to the world. So I don't know what the hell the Trump campaign is doing on issues like that, but when you've got the nuclear weapon and you can use it when, what is the problem? Alright, so Trump won 70-30, but if he had said the magic words and demanded that Kamala Harris show her demonic form that is truly underneath her face. Yeah, I would have been a hundred.

Then he definitely would have won if he would have forced her to admit that she worshiped Satan and is trying to kill all humans to usher in the age of silicon in honor of the planet Saturn. Right. If he would have done that, then it would have been a hundred. Yeah. I mean, you know, you make fun, but I do think that would have been a hundred. If that's your benchmark, then yes, 70- 30 seems about right in context now it makes more sense

yeah your benchmark is discovering the secrets of the universe so yeah I mean yeah you can't get a hundred right and demanding that she admit that Tim Wells is a Chinese agent yeah that was gonna be tough So everything Harris said lie everything every single thing Okay, to the point where it gave Alex a headache. Hey, I bet it did and I think that might have also Alcohol can give you that'll happen. Well last night Was Extremely frustrating to watch but also very interesting Thank you for joining us on this live Wednesday, September 11,

2024 transmission. And we're going to dissect what happened there. Everything Kamala Harris said was a lie. And everything she said was a multiple triple quadruple flip flop. And it gave me a very bad headache when I was driving home at midnight last night. The crew stayed until past 1 a.m. on air. Did a great job. I've been up since 5 a.m.

I had to tap out at midnight. And then I got up at 5 a.m. this morning after about four and a half hours sleep and went back to work. I have done my duty here. And you see this huge stack Most these are just one page thick each one of these is a lie by Kamala Wow you printed off a bunch of tweets Congratulations Wow Wow just just a lot of oppo research on each individual lie right really burning the midnight oil All right. All right

Yeah, I don't know. I mean I I just if I were him, I imagine it would give me a headache to watch this. Yeah, because it looks bad. It's really it's it's harder to cover for Trump. Yeah, because he's saying enough stuff that is like, that's exactly what I would say. Yeah. And it looks stupid. So I don't know if you're Alex you like do a little bit more it's just not I Make excuses. I just love that we're in a place where an entire political party was like Oh, I never thought that they wouldn't run the corpse against us I was just so sure sure that this dead man would be we all we had to do is weekend at Bernie's this guy and We were gonna win. How could they ever have chosen someone who was alive well it's an

interesting bet that they made unfortunately the things that were done well under that assumption have not paid off very well no like Trump seems to not have any any ability to adapt nope Nope. Picking JD Vance was a stupid idea. I just I don't know. Just I would be pretty mad if I were Alex watching this. But one of the things that made him the most mad is the fact that it is a three on one match. Trump that's it that Kamala. Okay. Plus the two moderators. Oh, okay. And then you've got the three on one. And I knew what I was seeing, but even Megan Kelly and Dr. Phil, but even some CNN people are like, well, they would do double follow up fact checks on him. Like they were God.

And of course they were lying. And so it was Kamala and the two so-called moderators gang up on Trump. They would talk over Trump. They would turn his mic up too high, down too low. They've had audio experts, Grammy award winners, on with Phil talking about it. I mean, they were jacking with Trump. And I give him a B+. Oh, B+.

Was she plumpin' though? Was she on a bag of blood? Yeah. So this stuff Alex is saying just isn't accurate. I watched the debate in full and if anything the moderators were overly fair to Trump. He kept butting in and wanting to respond to things Harris had said even outside of the format of the debate. The moderators gave him a lot of leeway and there was at least one glaring instance where

Harris wasn't given the same courtesy because they knew that they needed to move the show along and that she wasn't going to throw a tantrum if she didn't get her way. There were a couple of mic issues, but that wasn't just Trump. Harris had sound issues too. It was a production issue, not a Trump sabotage issue. I feel like we now live in a time where it's always in your best interest when you're someone like Alex to engage with stuff as if you're supposed to lose. If Alex says that the moderators are ganging up against Trump and the sound team is in

on it, then Trump's actual performance doesn't really matter. If he loses the debate or it's just fine, then he actually should have won, you know, because the odds were up against him, you know, they're stacked against him. Winning should have been impossible. Like he just was that good on the flip side if he wins you just get to say that he defied all these impossible odds Because he's just too good. Yeah, all of this is just fake storytelling stuff that Alex is doing But he's in a he's doing it in a way that projects weakness have a fundamental problem with this Consider wrestling a lot of times the heels cheat. The bad guys

cheat. That's the idea. Yeah, they're the bad guys. They have their allies interfere in matches or they use weapons. Everyone knows that they're going to cheat. And in a lot of instances it can become what you expect from their matches. Yeah. Like right now there's this the faction the bloodline and you know that they're going to interfere in matches to exploit the numbers advantage that they have. A babyface going up against them would look really shitty if they talked about how the game was rigged and that these guys were just gonna cheat in their match. You'd rightly have a difficult time rooting for that person to overcome the odds because

they kinda come off whiny. It just sucks. Even if they won, it's probably because they cheated too to so who cares about their complaining about the cheating it just makes you look weak this is not yeah talking isn't gonna do it they're living in this like they're create constructing this fake reality but because the other party isn't really participating with them in it yeah they aren't able to do it well yeah and so they're playing this thing that just looks weak. I don't know.

It's just... Yeah, I mean, when you're all talking shit, you know, then everybody's playing the same game. But whenever it's revealed that you're just, you're the only people talking shit and everybody is being patient with you, like the idea of, like, oh, God, can you, like, okay,, in 2016 I get it, you're getting blitzed. You're a media person who's supposed to be moderating a debate and this is Trump debate, so you're like, I don't even, when we were doing this with fucking

Gore and Bush, it was, everybody was just like, lockbox, you know, like it was very simple stuff. Even when you had Ross Perot, he wasn't being like, my dick isn't small. Totally, absolutely. So in this case, in this regard, It was very simple stuff. Even when you had Ross Perot, he wasn't being like, my dick isn't small. Totally. Absolutely. So in this case, in this regard, I get you not knowing what to do. But if you are now in 2024 and you're like, well,

I am going to make my decisions based on the fact that I know that this giant baby is going to throw a tantrum and you're going to mollify that baby, then you should quit. You should quit. I think that a lot of people probably are scared. Yes, exactly. Of him. If you are scared, you should quit.

You should fucking quit. I think that the moderators did a fine job of holding the line, as it were, in terms of this debate. Sure. I think that Harris had the most I've seen of anybody who's been in a debate with Trump of a like, I don't give a fuck about what you're saying. Nice. So there is a bit of that and the and the moderators to their credit, like they only were like, this is stupid a couple times.

Most of the time it was just like, each person, say what you're going to say and then we'll thank you for saying it. It was a fairly neutral presentation. But there were just a couple times where Trump was like, they're executing babies after they're born and they had to be like, that's illegal in every state. You know that. I mean that. Right. They had to be like that's illegal in every state. You know that I mean that right so there But I do I think that you know the point that you're making about in 2016

There was very little awareness of how to handle this and I think this was handled a little bit better I think there's still improvements that could be made and how you present stuff, but that's always gonna be the case With the media, it's never gonna be perfect But this is you see improvements. Well, good. I'm very proud of them. Yeah. So Alex really just wanted Trump to take the headshot about immigration and all these missing children at the border that Kamala Harris is personally trafficking. And he's pretty pissed off that Trump wouldn't do it.

Okay. He's got the Death Star pointed right at a little pea brain And just pull the trigger good God So I'm gonna shoot some videos on this and I'm going on the warpath in a loving way towards Trump What is when he talked about it in two speeches the last three weeks? It went sensational everybody wants that It's the right thing to do. It is the winning issue that unifies everybody. And I'm just sitting here watching it. And I mean, of course, oh, he trained with Tulsi to go after being the big police state person and putting us people on death row. Didn't open up on her about that. And look, I say this not to sit here and say I would have done it better. Trump overall B plus man the arena works his ass off 78 years old. I'm not saying that I would have done it better. Trump overall B plus man. The arena works his ass off 78 years old. I'm not Monday morning

quarterbacking this or Wednesday morning quarterbacking it. Literally I am just simply saying that. He kept the gloves on most of the time a little bit at the end. He took him off a little. And I would like to see that. So we've got all that. It's the 23rd anniversary of 9-11, which if you study it, which nobody study it probably more than I have, it's an inside

job, totally synthetic, deep state operation. Wow. He sounds really pathetic there at the end, sadly trying to hold on to some idea that he's a 9-eleven scholar Alex has literally no idea what any of his theories were about 9-eleven and the most successful thing he did around that Event was to rerelease someone else's already successful movie loose change and add his name to it and call it loose change final cut Yep, just stole that stolen valor conspiracy theory bullshit from Jason Burmess. But more to the point, you can see how much Alex doesn't really like Trump starting to come through. Trump's not extreme enough and he doesn't have the ability to entirely steamroll

a presidential debate anymore. His rudeness and tricks are kind of old now, so they don't have the same impact they did in 2016. So most of the debate ends up him saying insane things, and then the moderator is saying thank you, and then they move along. Harris didn't even feel the need to respond to most of the bullshit Trump was saying, and like I said, I think that's pretty good. Alex wanted Trump to be his weapon, and he's losing his attractiveness as a weapon. He won't take these headshots when he has the chance. It's kind of like he's outlived his usefulness to the crypto-Nazis and only really serves any purpose if he just

cuts the bullshit and becomes a tyrant. This is basically the frustration and tension that Alex is describing. He kind of hates Trump because he embodies all of the things that Alex is supposed to be against, but he's the only opportunity Alex has had in his lifetime to get the thing that he wants most, which is to wield the power of the state against his enemies. This whole thing does have big made a deal with the devil vibes. Yeah. Yeah.

And we're in that stage where it's not as fun anymore. Yeah, no. I'm going to go on a loving crusade against Trump. No, I know. That's crazy. I mean, it is really, we are in a situation where it does seem to Be the only thing that makes sense is he's gonna have to try and take over and become an actual tyrant, right? Yeah, cuz there's no way there's no way that it would mean anything to win or lose. Mm-hmm, you know

So he's just gotta do it if the stakes are as high as everybody says they are, you know Like oh, they're gonna kill babies in the streets Then he has no option in the eyes of his own people he would to steal it he would be seen as One rating great no I'll also let's look at the flip side He'll be seen as one of the greatest traders if he just gave up yes. Yeah, absolutely right yeah I mean Tucker is describing him as like the only hope. Yes. Half of America has. Yep. Like, do you lose an election and then be like, well, half of America? Good luck. Good luck filling my shoes. Yeah. Guy who's taken over this entire political party? I mean, no, that is kind of the problem with the stakes of that everybody's put onto this election is that if it is like, this is the direction of our democracy going forward forever, then it's like, well, yeah, it makes sense to try and steal it.

That's the thing you should do if you care, right? I don't know. I think you get into a paradox there. Exactly. Right. Which is why whoever actually does it is probably going to win. You got to do it. And then everybody else will be like, well, we is probably going to win. Mmm. You got to do it And then everybody else would be like well we need to argue about it

Sure If that's even possible that is a good question. How would you do it? Yeah? I know Alex has a lot of theories about how they did do it right, but they're all not true They didn't work. Yeah, cuz they didn't happen. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I I think that from a narrative standpoint and from making sense of the way the trajectories that we've been on Yeah, it kind of feels like Trump has to win and then become a dictator, right? Or he has to lose and try to become a dictator afterwards, right and probably fail. Yeah Hopefully fail I Probably fail. Yeah, hopefully hopefully fail

I think it feels like those are the things that are gonna happen or most likely to happen Yeah, and it does it does feel really strange to imagine like now there's a scenario where in Harris wins and Trump is like remember after The 2016 election when he was like a locker up. That was a good one. Yep You know like there's a totally That was a good one. Yep. You know, like there's a chance that he just does that. Yep. Yeah. I don't know.

I mean, yeah. The problem is the problem with all of his trials and stuff is that by postponing them after the election, the thing that you have made very clear is that if you win that election, there are no trials after the election. So if you lose the election, you're going to go to jail. Because then people won't care if you go to jail. And in fact, even your own people will be like, yeah, let's send that asshole to jail. He failed us. It becomes incredibly convenient for the right wing to turn on him at that point. Yeah. I guess. Yep. Which they should start doing now, much like they should start doing that with Musk, quite frankly. You would hope.

Elon Musk, you guys are quickly, the window is closing on being able to disentangle yourself. But Alex talks about both of them in this next clip, talking about how many clicks Trump got for doing an interview with Elon Musk. Right. It seems like a million years ago Trump should do this again every week for heaven sakes.

He went on with Elon Musk and had over a billion clicks. So they estimate over 700 million people watch more than 15 minutes. That's one of the biggest broadcasts in history, not the biggest. Okay? Hell, for something that big, they should add a video element. Musk can fly to Mar-a-Lago or meet Trump or Trump should come to Austin, shut up cameras, have a video stream

as well as an audio stream, and it'll have even more viewers. Please do a six hour symposium or something. But oh, we gotta run to ABC. We gotta run to CNN, whose average show has like a million, two million viewers on ABC, a million on their biggest shows on CNN and a hundred thousand average show. I mean, they're just a facade.

And I made the point that I couldn't count them all up just on X alone, but I did look at a lot of big channels and our coverage of Musk Trump before, during and after for like four hours, hour, hour and 15 minutes of Trump, but about an hour before, you know, the hour and 15 with Trump and Musk about an hour and a half after. So three and a half, four hours, we had easily 15, 16 million just on X that we had four streams going out and it was, it was, it was, it was pushing 15, 16 million. And if you want to see this today, you can see it. It's up on info wars.com. the It was it was it was pushing

15 16 million. I want to see this today. You can see it. It's up on info wars.com. We have the different streams and links there for you. You can see what we had yesterday in the pregame during the debate and after for the three hours.

I guess it was about. Real coverage started about 6 to 1 a.m. So how many hours is that that's seven hours and you can see the article on for wars calm here it is Breaking info wars received Over 14 million viewers on X alone during our Trump Harris debate coverage now now now let's talk about breaking That's on who broke that story You go look at it one's got 10 million one's got 2 million one's got a million and a half the other seven half a million Quarter better is that Ronan Farrell's work?

One stream alone is at ten million right now that's what it closed on it cool ten million whoa that's the info war stream usually it's the little stream but it went crazy ten million go look at it look number ten million right there. Now, and not counting all the clips we put out, that's another, we looked it up, seven million. That we just went and looked, not other people copying it. So I looked at 30, 40 channels, because I think this is very interesting, that also restreamed Musk.

So we got 15, 16 million when we covered Musk. I forget, it was like 15 plus. Because today I can show you the actual number. This is like a month ago. I don't remember the actual exact was like, do we need to be here for this conversation looking at other people's coverage? 20 million, 30 million, 10 million, 6 million, 8 million, 4 million, 1 million, 1 million, 1 million, 3 million, 2 million. And I just stopped in a minute when Oh my god, I just put in Trump Elon

Musk, you know, click the top thing and just scrolling through the numbers. And it was, I mean, if you would, I had no idea how many it was on top of the billion, just on the Musk stream, 700 million watched a lot of it, but over a billion, 200 million was the last number I saw clicked it. And that was the day after who knows what it is now And then it was all over the dinosaur median all over talk radio and clips everywhere. So

the old media is Dead it's not like oh the the old media is losing to the internet or like Trump says or or oh wow You know, they had polls out the last week. Wow, the internet now is much bigger than legacy media Yeah, they say 70 plus percent is last week. Wow. The internet now is much bigger than legacy media. Yeah. They say 70 plus percent is the internet political coverage. Of course it is. So even with all the censorship on all the other platforms, X has now more than doubled its size since much took over.

Like it's almost tripled. It's now the number one social media for engagement. This is so that clip was so long and I apologize It feels like it goes on for what feels like forever But like honestly a lot of his show is like that. I believe you so Enjoy, but Alex is trying to make this point that Trump talking to Elon got a lot of clicks on Twitter And that the debate on ABC got less viewers than that So Trump should do more interviews with Musk and less mainstream stuff like the debate on ABC.

It's a pretty simple point that Alex has to talk about incessantly because it gives him this pretext to brag about his own inflated numbers. A lot of that information is entirely inaccurate but I don't really care to argue about Alex's numbers or Elon's. Suffice it to say that Twitter is not doing record numbers. The opposite is actually happening. He's more or less destroying a social media company. But I want to pretend that it's all true because it's actually kind of worse if it is.

If that is the case, that hundreds of millions of people, maybe a billion people watch the Trump-Elon interview, possibly a thousand times the viewership of ABC. What does the world actually remember about it other than it happened? In theory, based on what Alex is saying, it should have been a moment that'll be recorded by history and taught to classes in the future. But I would bet a nice chunk of change that Alex doesn't even remember the specifics of what happened, other than maybe the fact that they started late because the text sucked.

If what Alex is saying is true, then he's really just illustrating how little of an impact his genre of social media has on the real world. Your shit can get a billion hits and it doesn't move the needle in a meaningful way. This isn't the flex that Alex thinks that it is. All of these numbers are actually making him look worse. Yeah. The bigger they are, the more shit you have on your yard. Yeah. Essentially.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and WhatsApp have larger active user bases than Twitter. You know, it is interesting to think about it in that context of like, if there were a billion views, exactly one billion, that would put it on par with like When the penguin falls and everybody hears it go You know a billion people have seen that you know and if they if that is the same then they're of equal substance there's about as much you get out of both of them I Would argue that maybe the penguin has more because it's not trying to.

That's fair. So maybe it is more successful in what it is trying to do for a billion people than Trump's. Yeah. I don't know. I was just reflecting on that as I was listening to him brag about all these numbers that it's like what? Yeah.

If that mattered, then Trump's numbers shouldn't be going down. Like the polling shouldn't be 50 50 or as close as they are. If your billion hits mattered. If I'm if I'm a comic, which I used to be, and if I'm doing a show for 10,000 people at Madison Square Garden or whatever, I do not want to end that show and be like, man, I can't believe I did this show for 10,000 people who shrugged. What a shrug show. If I'm going to get shrugs, I'll do it for 10 people. If I'm going to do 10,000, I want fucking big goddamn laughs.

I'm not getting shrugs. Yeah. If you are able to captivate an audience of a considerable percentage of the Earth's population yeah then you should be making a lot more of an impact than whatever that fucking stupid boring conversation had Alex was bored by it yeah anyway yeah Trump only way he loses is if they cheat is if he doesn't play okay or if they cheat okay the corporate dinosaur't play okay, if they cheat, okay Media is a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of a shadow

Compared to the independent media that is the media. We have one there's election fraud in place They're trying to convince you. This is a close race It's not if he doesn't win it is election theft and they always all the fact-, the fact checkers, there's no evidence, she's right, that there was any fraud in 2020. None of the judges would hear it. They said there's no standing. And they punted it. Trump's won court cases all over the country. They're kicking millions and millions of illegals and dead people off the rolls over a million

in Texas. And then the Justice Department goes, don't do that. We're going to indict you you or that's criminal. They said that two days ago. So they're covering up the windows, trucks are driving. When they say it's closed, the surveillance cameras get sued, the county and districts do. And you've got the footage of them looking over their

shoulder cramming in the ballots and people cramming them in the drop boxes and tracking the phone data where they go to a safe house, thousands of people and then you follow them with the phone data to a box where they put 50, 60, 100 ballots in and take photos of each one. Sure. I mean, yeah, they stole the 2020 election. They tried to steal. They did mitigate the victory in 2022. That's your pitch?

But I'm just going to say it again. Whether they can steal this election or not all over the world, the new world order, the globalist, the WEF, the Black Rock crime syndicate, power is slipping away from them and the world is quickly waking up to them. So for me that's the big takeaway. We can obsess over the rigged debate and why did Trump do it or why did he say this or that and Kamala is usually bombed out of her gourd or hopped up on amphetamines. She looked like she was on some amphetamines

and a little mix of maybe something to relax her but I think they got her meds right last night. Was it blood? Yeah, it was blood. This is the best performance we've ever seen from Kamala. But again, there's the lowered expectations. So this is the same dynamic I brought up earlier where all of your narratives rely on the expectation of you losing. It sounds like what Alex is saying is that Trump is going to win, but in reality what he's doing is saying that Trump actually losing is not even a possibility.

So there aren't two possible futures, one where Harris wins and one where Trump wins. There are, there's the future where Harris steals the election and wins and the one where she tries to steal it and Trump wins anyway. According to InfoWars lore, as we understand it, there is no world where Trump actually just wins. Right. Like in 2016 and 2020, Alex knows there's a pretty decent chance Trump is going to lose. And he needs to have this built in reason for why that

happened that isn't my, the ideas that my world is based on, that's unpopular with normal people and appeal mostly to severely online dipshits. All that stuff Alex was saying is bullshit that we've discussed in the past. So I'm not going to get bogged down in it again. But there's one point that Alex made that really sticks out. He says that no courts heard Trump's election cases and that they were all punted for lack of standing. That's something that Trump said in the debate, but it's a complete lie. I actually just remembered this from watching the debate. There's a moment where the moderator asks, recently you have accepted that you lost the 2020 election. Right.

You know, what do you... How do you feel about that? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Trump's like, no, I didn't. Oh! See, that's where you're... I forgot about that moment. That's where you lose. If you're the media, you've already lost. Well, I think everyone was pretty shocked because he did say that we lost by a hair and stuff like that fairly recently. He said he was being sarcastic. Yep.

There you go. Anyway, a 2022 report looked at 64 of Trump's cases that were raised in six states after the 2020 election, which found that 30 of them were not thrown out for lack of standing and they got hearings. This report, which was written by conservative scholars, said, quote, we conclude that Donald Trump and his supporters had their day in court and failed to prove substantive evidence to make their case. It's all shit, but this is a critically important piece of the bullshit infrastructure.

This is the lie that allows the other lies to exist, because it creates the explanation for how Alex could be correct about all these things and yet none of it's proven. If only Trump could have had his day in court, then the truth would come out. But Trump did have his day in court and he failed to prove any of this bullshit. Holding on to these unproven things and behaving as if they're true is essential to Alex's ability to keep going. So this keystone lie is holding up a lot of the weight of the other lies. Yeah. All of that other stuff that he ran it off about cramming boxes and and nonsense.

All of that is supported by this idea that Trump never had his day in court and all of these cases were kicked out for lack of standing. He needs that to enable the other lies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of dynamics like that with his stories. Yeah, there's so much of like It is it is a lot of What would you you know when rubber meets the road kind of shit where it's like either this or this? And if it's not this you have to do something different You can't continue to believe the same thing if you're faced with this choice. Mm-hmm. You just have to yeah, and They've chosen that Trump has won.

It's already done. There's no going back now. And not only did Trump win the 2020 election, he's going to win this one. Of course. And he won the debate. He just won that fucking debate. But then why would you ask, why would you do it and then have people continue to ask it after the debate? If you win the debate, people go, well, that's why you did it, to win the debate and show off how great he is. He won the debate, but he could have won more. What?

Yeah, that's the thing. Okay. The good news is I'm looking at the numbers. Most polls Trump won, it was his to lose. He won the basketball game by 12 points. He could have won by 55. He could have done through the air, Air Jordan, you know, slamming and, you know, breaking the basket, huge basket, shattering glass. He didn't do any of that. That's okay. 78 years old, wash his ass off and refuses to debate prep until they come in and feed him all this stuff and give him all these documents and his ass off and refuses to debate prep.

And so they come in and feed him all this stuff and give him all these documents and videos and then Trump doesn't even write notes and then he just part of that's his strength. I get it. I'm better a lot of times on there when I already have the knowledge, but I don't really prepare the best shows are when I don't prepare but but that's maybe once a month that I do that because I'm so busy on something else and then I just kind of go with my deeper knowledge and you get more of a sermon.

So again, so much of this just involves making excuses and it just sounds incredibly weak. Also, all of the credible polling around this is that Harris won the debate by a country mile. A CNN flash poll before the debate found 50% thought Harris would do better, 50% thought Trump would do better. A poll after the debate found that 63% thought Harris did better. What you gonna do? 96% of Harris supporters thought she had done better than Trump whereas only 69% of Trump's own supporters thought he won. Harris's favorability rose from 39 to 45 before and after the debate whereas Trump's dropped from 41 to 39.

ABC reported on a trio of polls that came out after the debate among people who watched the debate. This included the CNN poll, which had a plus 26 margin for Harris, but also included YouGov, which had a plus 23 for Harris, and a Republican-sponsored poll conducted by SoCal Strategies, On Point Politics, and Red Eagle Politics that found a plus-19 margin for Harris. I can't find any polling that shows that Trump won, and the overwhelming majority of all the coverage of the debate was that Trump looked bad, Harris looked good, and it's insane that the race is close.

And then Taylor Swift endorsed Harris and in retaliation Elon Musk offered to impregnate her. So that's where we are. Cool. I'm like it. So I've been doing the no internet thing. Now what I do have though, here's my polling. All right. We talked about this way back. I put money on Nikki Haley, right? But I also put money on a woman president because at the time I was like, basically the same thing. I got a good bet on both. Sure. You're covering, you're doubling up a little bit. Sure, sure, sure.

Haley wins, you win both ways. It's the same difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So what works out, Haley doesn't win, but I've still got a really great bet going right now. And so- What were your odds? One to five? That's not as, that's odds? Uh, one to five. That's not as that's five to one. I would have really thought you'd got better odds at the time.

No, because Haley was polling pretty well. So it was like it was like, you know, five to one, something like that. But yeah, but still at the time, the presumptive nominee on one side was Joe Biden. Yep. So one in five odds that a Republican has to... It's such... I don't know. I would have tried to get... I'm going to tell you this.

...320 to one on that. I'm going to tell you this. I'll tell you why. Very simple. People who gamble are also like, that guy's probably going to die. I'm gambling that he might die One or both of those men are old yeah, we are in an era where people die randomly that's true Yes, absolutely anybody could die at any point

But yeah, so anytime I want to see what the polling is like. It's usually like, Oh, there's a 56 cents for Harris and 44 for Trump. Right. And that's the polling. Is it 53 to 47? That's the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. After the debate, Kamala, you, yeah, it was up there. Is it like 60 or something like that? So she did better. Yeah. Gamb yeah gamblers agree yeah I think if gamblers watch that they'd be like not sounds right don't feel great having money on it looks like shit yelling about how people are eating pets not good so Alex has decided that because Trump won't be enough outspoken about the human trafficking sure and all that stuff that he's going to start attacking Trump in order to get him to toughen up.

And I'm really serious. I've talked to the campaign people. I've talked to a lot of people. I can get Trump on the phone if I really want to, but it's just it's pointless if he doesn't want to do it. I just so you know, I'm going to find out when he's in Mar-a-Lago because this is the So... You know, I'm gonna find out when he's at Mart-a-Lago, because this is the kind of thing that'll get attention. And I'm not gonna be doing anything illegal or anything bad,

but I'm gonna go make a scene. And I'm hoping the message gets to him and I can call up Don Jr. You know, I can call Kennedy up. I got... I just remember. I just... I do everything on air. I don't do stuff. It doesn't have the same ring as it used to. I give stories to that. That's not true. I give a lot of stuff to Rogan and other people but they listen to me. If I give it to them they do it usually. I can put a bow on it. I've sent Trump, had law firms create reports for him about the deep state and the sorrows people were in his cabinet He started going after him. That's when I got attacked really hard

But I just it's such a no-brainer. Do I really? Have to start going after Trump on here Yes, you know I am because we got a win 54 days out 55 days out. This is this is bumming me out Yeah, this is sad. Yeah, this is sadder than him talking to a robot go go yes Should I should I go cause a seat? Yes? You're out That's all you can do what you do Why are you not doing it is the question you should be asking yourself right right? Yeah? Maybe I should be maybe I shouldn't be nice to a political candidate. No you shouldn't be nice

I kind of have a theory about that and we'll get to that in a minute All right, why he wouldn't do this kind of stuff that you sure sure but like I don't know There's just something so depressing about like I could call Don jr. Oh, maybe I'll call Kennedy. Maybe it's just like dude Have have dark thoughts. We all have dark thoughts. These aren't good dark thoughts. They're not good dark thoughts. But you know, when you're in the shower and you suddenly get hit by a memory of all the horrible things that you've ever done and you have these dark thoughts, everybody's

been there. We all get that. That's fine. Don't go on the radio. Yeah. Don't just start muttering about how you could talk to someone who can talk to Trump. Not good. No, again, it all just projects weakness.

Have a donut! Yeah. Have a food item and be like, I was sad, but now I'm eating. I don't know what else to tell you. Instead, it just keeps going. Just keeps going. I mean, you know the stunts I can pull to get attention with Trump?

The stuff I can do. I don't even go around doing this stuff. I just want to cover the news, see other people get involved. I could go out right now and just go to every event, go to the DNC, go to the RNC, go to the Trump events, go to all the things, make a huge spectacle, go to all the TPUSA's, go to the CPAC's and take them over. I don't want to do that. But damn it. I wonder if I should skydive into Mar-a-Lago. Of course, it's controlled space and I'm joking and that'll be a headline.

That'd be fucking great. I just want this to get to Trump and I just want him to stop. Yeah, just stop. This is really, really sad. And all I hear is two very loud messages. The first is that Alex has no access to Trump. If he can even reach him it's probably through multiple layers of people like General Flynn or Roger Stone and it seems like maybe those two aren't going to do any favors for Alex. He is on the outside of whatever rings there are. The second is that Alex is a little bit afraid to find out if his publicity

stunts work anymore. That's what I'm talking about is the reason why he probably doesn't do this. I don't think you're wrong. I think Alex knows damn well how disposable he is now. How if he goes against the mob that he's helped create, he won't leave the mob. It will turn on him. Loyalty to this figurehead is what matters right now. So sure, go try to take over some of Trump's rallies. We'll see how well it goes. Enjoy. Turning point is probably something Alex could have more success disrupting.

Their influence has been decreasing and Charlie Kirk has outgrown it to have a brand of his own so Alex might be able to mess with some of their events, but who cares? Nick Fuentes already did that and we've seen what the most successful outcome of invading them is, but I think that's probably a good option because they had Alex come speak at their conference. So they let him in the door. He could abuse that and really fuck with them if he wanted, but it's a dead end. I like the skydiving into Marilago idea. For a couple reasons. One one if he gets shot down Alex Jones shot down lives forever, right?

That's that's legend shit you you won, you know, I'll sit down and respect that shit to succeeds Fucking amazing. That's a stunt that everyone will talk about right? But even that is so like this is all still just Alex being uncreative because he's just stealing this from Lord Monkton Yeah, that's true Lord Monkton. Yeah, that's true. Lord Monkton, a sky dove into the climate conference. You're right. Yeah, he's just stealing other people's ideas to get attention, as he usually does.

Yep. So let's not forget though, that Alex is doing that show in Pennsylvania with Tucker on the 23rd, which is still not sold out. Like, that's not good. There's still tons of seats available and I think that Tucker might have realized that Alex isn't the draw that he was expecting. In an attempt to sell more tickets, they just added Jack Posobic to the show, and it's still not sold out. I think that Alex kind of understands all of this.

He can lash out and probably get a ton of hits on Twitter, but it doesn't translate to anything meaningful. He's left whining and considering publicity stunts on his show while Laura Loomer is on Trump's plane. Like, Alex has been left behind. And until he recognized that and flips on this whole thing, his content can't really move forward. It's all just kind of like, you're just gonna be mad at yourself

until you turn on Trump and create something new for yourself Yeah, this is yeah It's it's exactly that because the only the the cost of being on the end is giving up yourself Laura Loomer is not a person. She is a she is whatever Trump says she has to be to have her be on the plane Yeah, she's an entity of hostility. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's it. Like Alex. Alex is in a strange place for these people because Alex really did build it by himself. What he built was his.

You know, that was the thing about when we were looking at Becca Lewis's research, you know, and they were and she's showing like this whole thing is just separate from the media ecosystem It's just that's him, you know, and then when he got on the inside He had to become like a Laura Loomer and now he's he's nothing. He's just nothing They've they've stolen a lot of the things that he did In order to create whatever he created. Yep, in the process, he's given up so much of the ability for him to move in this space in the way that made him unique. And it's really tragic on a kind of like, if it were a science fiction story. Right, right, right.

If we're a thousand light years away and we're reading about this story, despite the fact that he is clearly the villain, we go, aha, the irony of life and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. Fuck him, I don't care. Exactly. I'm not sympathetic to it. Exactly. But from a narrative standpoint, the character study is kind of depressing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Foust wasn't the good guy. No. Yeah. So Alex, I mean, just like, listen to this shit. This just makes you sad. Please remember Yeah, we had 14 million viewers just to our pre-dearing and post-debate coverage on X alone amazing Millions at info wars millions on radio stations. I'd say conservatively 20 million people tuned in last night. I Checked this morning. No extra money regular sales barely enough to pay the bills. I'm not bitching. These are great products I need your support go to dr. Jones naturals comm go to him for war store comm you need nitric boost

You need x2. You need x3. What does that tell you? I mean that should be all any any advertising marketing agency or anything would be like well, we need to make a change 20 million people watching our show and it translated to no sales. Yeah. You have to either conclude that this sucks and it's not working or these are fake people. These numbers aren't real or we're doing something bad. Yeah. No. I mean when I first started doing the hearing aids way back when they would do these direct mail campaigns, right? And the marketing people would show up and they'd show you the little postcard and they'd be like, this is the postcard that's getting our best response.

Half a percent. And you'd be like, wow, that's the response. So you send out 20,000, you know, and you get a half a percent and that's a real number. 20 million. You should get a very real number out of it. Yes. Yes, you should. You are not getting a real number, which means the numbers are fake. It's all fake, man. Yeah. Even if your conversion rate is minuscule on 20 million viewers, you should see a considerable

rise in sales. Absurdly huge, yeah. Yeah. And so something's wrong. Yeah. So that bummed me out. And then this commercial that Alex played, bummed me out even more. Ladies and gentlemen, this is hands down the most badass truck in the world. A 2024 AEB Dodge Prospector. This is my dream truck, but This truck won't belong to me. It's going to belong to you. The folks that visit the Alex Jones store.com and enter to win for free by entering your email or when you buy products, they put you in five, 10 times in

the raffle for this bad boy. I'm going to walk you through this, but this is hands down. Look up yourself. The most bad-ass truck in the world. It's pretty's pretty badass truck. Wow. He's doing a truck giveaway I've never been in a business where they said you know what it was the raffle that really turned everything around for us Yeah Yeah, we were on a real downward trajectory So we all got into the room and had a big meeting and somebody was like we should do a raffle I was like we raffle off a badass truck That's worked every time other businesses have tried it

You know there's something about Alex that like he comes from radio Yeah, so this feels like a local radio station really does it feels? sad Yep Yep, you're not supposed to be this man God if you are if you find yourself here don't be here Yeah, go somewhere else do something else it just stinks of a local radio It's just it's not it's it's but it's beneath what Alex pretends to be and I thought it was very very funny

Yeah, and I don't I'm not knocking local radio Oh, we both have we would both be delighted to have our voiceover careers from ten years ago started and I lament the the way that Consolidation is ruined independent local radio stations or hindered them in a great way. Yeah, I love radio It is Alex who is the of the I he is the creation of that I think the idea of a truck giveaway for a local station is fantastic it's what you should be doing that's great for Alex bummer yeah he's supposed to be like God's chosen messenger on earth and he's doing a fucking raffle there's a fine line between everybody put your hand on this truck and whoever's hand is there

at the end gets to keep the truck and they shoot horses don't they? Big difference. Maybe you just need to hear a little bit more about the truck. Maybe. When you enter to win this, you fund the info war and take it to the globalists. Now let's talk about this badass truck. This is a freaking monster. Now you're getting the colors I like the best. This dark green, this black, the red pinstripe. But what really matters is the shocks, the giant tires, the engine.

Now because one of you lucky people out there is gonna own this truck, I'm not gonna take it off road. But we've taken other ones off road. And believe me, ladies and gentlemen, there's nothing like it. You don't need to tell me that. Look at this sexy monster, ladies and gentlemen. Woo! Woo!

Just be that! Look at this sexy monster. Do that! stop being the Alex Jones of the info wars guy They just be the guy was like look at this big fucking truck. Yeah Maybe you should just be a car dealer. That'd be great. Yeah, that's where people like him have always meant to be God it just it was I got a little bit of whiplash from this commercial. Yeah. Look at this sexy truck! That is...

It seems so mad. That is fucking crazy. So we come back for a commercial. Sure. I got even more sad. Hahaha! Watch the rebroadcast later, you can't call in. But right now we'd love to hear from you on last night's debate and September 11th and how it changed our world.

23 years later that's a big place to go entire campaign world war three on the table millions on info forced injections new deadly mrna shots they get in and open borders and expanded human traffic and the criminals getting away with it all to give us the funding we deserve it i think we're delivering Please support us back I Just don't know how to I don't know how to I don't know if it gets better than that. I just don't know how to, I don't know how to, I don't know how to never forget more than that. Yeah, I thought I was hallucinating

when I first heard that. I just accidentally started playing a commercial. Alex recognizes it, loses his train of thought, and then is just mad. I mean, there's no... That's a genuine, you should be furious. Yeah. Yeah. For the context of what you're talking about. Talking about like September 11th being meaningful and all that. In another life, he would have stormed off the show.

Yeah. But I think the robot has taught him some patience. Oh, that's nice. And so he doesn't actually- Good job, robot....storm off the show. He's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Careful I did the numbers I looked it up. He's the same amount of African. I did the numbers. I looked it up. He's the same amount of African. I'm sorry. Native American. So if my dad's like 13% and his dad was 30 something percent. Percentage is a great way to describe this. That would make me six and a half percent. There you go.

And that's what she, so she's three and a half percent black. I mean, I've done the numbers. The genealogy of her is well known and out there. So the only reason that the question was asked in the debate about this was because Trump said that Harris recently became black in an interview he did with the National Association of Black Journalists at their conference.

If Trump hadn't said what he said, there would be nothing to ask about. It's his fault. He did this. And Alex really isn't helping here. Trump's comments were that Harris became black, not that she became African. African American and black are not the same word. And Alex is asserting that Harris's father is not African to claim that he's not black,

which is Alex intentionally playing games with words in order to make a racist point. Regardless, Harris's father is Jamaican with African descent, so all this is just absurd levels of rationalization meant to slightly obscure these folks' fundamental racism that this world is based on and built upon. So that's fun. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it made sense, I guess, whenever people were like, let's stop using black. But in reality, black is the correct word because it was never about where you're from.

It is just finding a reason to exclude and enslave all of these people. And skin color is a great one for this. It has never been like, oh, well, we're not from Egypt. We'd say it's Africa. No, not from, they don't even know what is in Africa. It is just, it's just what it is. They're racist towards black people. Black people.

Yep. And Alex is trying to somehow intellectualize things. And it's just, all you have to do in this case is say like, wow, Trump really fucked up there. Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah. It's not easy or it's not difficult to not defend that. Right. Even if you're Alex. Yep. But whoopsie. So earlier in the show, I didn't cut a clip of this and I kind of regretted in hindsight Yeah, Alex started sort of riffing song parody of karma chameleon

Sure. How does this get racist? So he's like oh Man, I got to write out those lyrics. No, I got to make I got to make this cover of karma chameleon And then this happened later All right, we're going to post this on X. We'll make a music video out of it. Chase Geyser is so amazing. He's like an octopus. He's doing so much work back there.

And he heard me first hour just off the top of my head just say those lines. He wrote that down, fed it into AI, and said Rock and Roll Woman's voice, and 30 minutes later we have this. I like the central metaphor. That's great, but I did that off the top of my head. We need to come up with the rest of the song like Gonna chop your son's penis off gonna cut your daughter's breast off gonna have satanism at the super bowl Gonna give you poison shots die die die the chameleon's gonna kill you and it's gonna be fun fun fun

My god something like that All right swans up. Yeah, please do so yeah, I I just I struggle as somebody who's followed Alex's career sure I struggle to hear that and Not like I don't understand why he's not mad about this I am right I hate it I hate AI I hate it he should be furious about this bastardization and the absurdity of human creativity yeah it's horrifying yeah he should be chase should be out on his ass thrown through

the studio plate glass window quite frankly Agreed get that fucking octopus out of here. Yes Yes, this is bad by your own rules Yes, why am I the one who is angrier about this? I was I watched waking life not too long ago. Yes, I wanted to revisit it Yeah, and I'd forgotten that Alex was in it when I started the movie. And his scene came on. And I was really like taken back to seeing this for the first time, not knowing who he was. And one of the things that he's screaming about is the creativity of the human

spirit that will not submit. You know, and all this like going back to like the 90s. These are the kind of messages that were really important about like about humanity is too good You know and now we have like isn't it funny that this robot made a song in 30 minutes I did this I did something I watched ghosts in the shell I rewatched goes in the show the original 95 one obviously the 90s were that's where we're living at these days apparently sure and it is like, for all the themes about it, the thing that people tend to forget is the idea is that the consciousness is searching for death. Because death is the way you validate existence.

So that's the entire thing. And that the AI cannot die is the problem. The AI is not alive, you know? And that the AI can't emote. Yeah. Like, you're creating a facsimile of the whoa, whoa, or whatever, but that was supposed to be in the context of music, this expression of somebody feeling something. It is not aesthetically pleasing. No. It is by the lack of aesthetic pleasing that we are allowed to see the emotion within it. Otherwise we could have just had somebody who is very good at singing.

Yeah. And this bums me out. And it should bum out Alex. It should bum everybody out. And we're in such a weird space where Alex is like, oh isn't that fun we can make song parodies faster. Yeah I think we need to, Dan I think it's you and me. We're leading the but Larry and Jahad. I think it's us I think we I think all thinking machines have to die

So Alex takes a call from Twitter sure he's also on spaces course and this person's another another idiot, right? I wanted to really thank you. I happened to hop in right when you were touching on What's happening here in Springfield, Ohio. I'm about a county over and no matter if the cat that was on the police video was killed by a woman here in Canton, Ohio or if the the geese were killed by migrants at the park. But no matter if some of the topics or the ways that stories were conveyed in the moment were off, the main thing is that we now have gotten the message out there that a town of what was 38,000 or maybe 40,000 has now had an increase of 20,000 people who are going to need assistance that

the local community does not have to provide. And now I'm noticing when I've dealt with my and been in charge of my grandfather's disability and Food stamps for the past couple years that this is one of the first months that he has not been That his payment is now five days late Yeah, I mean it's clowered and Piven they know bringing in 25 million illegals and just three and a half years is gonna collapse The country it's designed to do and pivots. They know bringing in 25 million illegals in just three and a half years is going to collapse the country. It's designed to do it.

They admit that's their plan. So this caller really gets to the core of what the strategy is for these folks. And also you had a lot of confused looks on your face. I'm worried. Did you not hear about any of this stuff? No idea. Any context? No context at all.

Okay. Well, feel free to ask questions as we go along. Okay. So this caller is essentially openly admitting that it doesn't matter if all that stuff about people's pets getting eaten was a lie because they accused Haitian immigrants of doing it, which drew spotlight to the fact that there's a bunch of immigrants in this town, which is apparently a problem. Right.

Incidentally, it's not a problem. Springfield, Ohio's population has been increased considerably in the past few years due to an influx of migrants, but its economy has also improved along with it. As the economy has generally improved without the labor that these migrants provide, the factories and industry in Springfield wouldn't have been able to operate the way that it has. So there's a lot that's being ignored. So what's going on here is that on May 18th, 2023, a 35-year-old Haitian man drove a minivan into ongoing traffic,

which ended up causing a bus to veer off the road. The ensuing crash killed an 11-year-old child and injured 23 other kids. The man driving the bus was charged with involuntary manslaughter and vehicular homicide. Despite pleas from the deceased child's family, this event was used to stoke hatred towards the largely ancient immigrant community there in Springfield. J.D. Vance has been an utter disappointment as Trump's VP choice and is from Ohio. In recent weeks, he's been trying to get some of that hometown cred in speeches and he's hit particularly on the subject of Springfield, Ohio multiple times, looking to inflame the feelings of resentment towards migrants exploiting the death of this 11-year-old child. People are posting bullshit on social media blaming migrants for stealing and eating pets

there, which is sort of working in concert with JD Vance's bringing up of Springfield. So people are trying to validate it with things like, someone, hey, you just ate a cat. It turns out it's not a migrant know it's all just a bunch of bullshit Yeah, now Alex is pumping this up and Trump is repeating it aggressively on the debate stage That's what Trump was talking about when he's like got their eating pets gotcha It's literally all xenophobia and racism and this color is a really great representation of how it doesn't matter to a believer whether something is true or not He wanted to believe that immigrants were eating pets because he wants to demonize immigrant populations He's gonna push the story that they're eating pets because it furthers that goal

Once it's a little too embarrassing to continue pushing the story that they're eating everyone's pets He retreats to just saying well aren't there a lot of immigrants there? As if that's been his point all along. He points to his grandfather's supposedly late check, which, if that story is even real, has nothing to do with migrants in a different city, and Alex thinks his dad shouldn't be getting, or granddad shouldn't be getting to begin with. The eating pets thing might have been bullshit, but my grandpa's check is late, and that's what this is really about. That's an unacceptable point, and that's an unacceptable way to have been bullshit, but my grandpa's check is late, and that's what this is really about.

That's an unacceptable point, and that's an unacceptable way to present your shit. But that's exactly what this caller is embodying. And that's how these games are played a lot of the time. Yeah. Yeah, that's so fucking... That sucks. Every part of that sucks. It's just trash.

The willingness to be like, ah, maybe the whole story that we were telling isn't true. But still, that's just, no, come on, guys. I mean, just fucking. God. Awful. What do you think, yeah, no! Like, how do you listen to somebody, I mean, it is like, sir, stop all of that. Well, I think. Call the office and see where your grandfather's check is that's it

Yeah, that's it. That's our conversation sir everything else shut the fuck up about and I thought like when I the first time I listened through That clip I thought he was saying this is the first time the checks ever been late, right? He didn't know this is one of the first times yeah, yeah, it's like it's not even a unique experience What the fuck are you talking about, man? What is happening? Yeah. People just have too much ability to say things and demand people hear them. Yeah.

Like, just idiot shit is too available. And that's... I don't know. What else is there to say? You know what else there is to say? What? Do you want a fucking sexy truck? I do. You know what? there is to say what do you want a fucking sexy truck I do

You know what that actually has brightened my day. I take back everything. I've ever said about sexy trucks I know a guy Get you a sexy truck. I bet giving him my email address is a good idea So here's where I was like I heard that commercial for the sexy truck. Yeah, it was like this is Pathetic yeah, it is a real bummer. But then, a little bit later in the show, Alex has a guest on, who's the guy who's giving away that sexy truck. And I started to understand what was happening here. So Alex talks to this guy.

All right. Been working with Nate Hughes and his crew for a while. They're in Bentonville, Arkansas. They got their own Made in America Knife Company and t-shirts and everything else. When you go to thealexjonesstore.com, there's over 30 amazing t-shirts. They're the ones that design the t-shirts

for so many folks with the Hodge Twins and Steven Crowder and so many others. They've got next level t-shirts. Ours are great. I design them. So I'm gonna be quite honest. Most of our t-shirts are not this bad ass. Well, these are our t shirts now. The Alex Jones store dot com. We need funds to get more reporters back to expand, to fight the tyrants during this key election.

Look at those t shirts. Look at them. If you're a TV viewer, if you're a radio listener, these are in stock. These are made right here in America, printed in Arkansas, ready to ship to you. And I helped with some of the concepts on these, but their concepts are even better. These are bad ass t shirts. right here in America, printed in Arkansas, ready to ship to you. And I help with some of the concepts on these, their concepts are even better. These are bad ass t-shirts.

So you get what's going on, right? Alex has got a new t-shirt guy. Yeah. He's trying to get all of the, like his supplement business is now his dad's supplement business. The clothing and apparel and all of that stuff is now this, but he needs to drive traffic over to this thing.

And so we have the Alex Jones store is the URL for this guy's business that is totally separate from Alex. Totally separate. And they're giving away a truck in order for you to be lured into going and giving your email address and buying product to try and transition customers

over to this. Yeah, you got to off-ramp people. No, it makes sense. It makes total sense. It's a great business move. It's painfully transparent, and I can't believe this is all legal. I can. Yeah, I guess so.

Yep. So anyway, this guy is also his old knife guy. This guy is also his goddammit. Why won't anybody just do fucking limericks like a god damn meant to? Right. You know? Yes.

Sometimes it's like just do fucking limericks. If Marty Schachter was giving away a sexy truck, perfect. Absolutely. Everything makes sense. And the world is a better place. Yes. Yeah. But so Alex's knife guy is now his clothes guy.

He's giving away a truck and also More of like a hey, I've got my idiot brother to run this multinational corporation because he's absolutely not related to me in any way Let me ask this question about your idiot brother. Yeah, was he there on January 6th? The whole show on this this hour we're gonna go to your calls Because they fuse is a patriot. He's a J sixer, he didn't wanna get into it, but just like Owen, right now he's facing prison time. So the owner of the company, he's trying to stop that, and he won't get into the case,

but you did absolutely nothing of course, just like Owen, and then just all part of the drag net, absolutely criminal in my view, but your whole company are patriots, and it's full of veterans, and you're just all part of the dragnet absolutely criminal in my view but your whole company are patriots and full of veterans and you're just kicking ass and you've been doing a great job for so long and it's wonderful to be working with you. So Nate Hughes was a violent rioter on January 6th. There's footage of him fighting with the cops wearing one of Alex's Space Force shirts no less.

Good. He attempted and failed to steal a cop's shield, and was recorded yelling incitement towards his fellow rioters on multiple instances. Hughes is actually a living embodiment of the fact that Alex's version of the story on January 6th is full of shit. Hughes was doing things that Alex claims didn't happen, and on August 6th, just a little over a month ago, he pled guilty to one count of civil disorder, one count of assaulting, resisting, or impeding an officer, and one count of violent entry and disorderly

conduct on Capitol grounds. He's set to be sentenced on November 15th, so you know he's hoping Trump wins. Or else he might end up getting some horrible punishment like probation. Yeah. I don't know. So anyway, this knife guy who is now a clothes guy who's giving away a truck also is facing Possible prison time for January 6th. The fuck is this a mad lib? I I appreciate I Appreciate just how useless the legal system is

It's almost impressive at a certain point apparently that I mean this just this moment this snapshot is such an embodiment It is just like Do you do they get together and then like listen to this moment and go like oh, I think we've done great So this guy who tried to overthrow the government, let's stop right there in service While you know, you violently tried to steal a cop's shield in the scuffle. So he pled guilty to that stuff. And now he's decided to create a shell business for Alex to sell merch through. See now, now after trying and failing to overthrow the country, he's going to steal money from

the families of a dead child. Right. And take a cut. And take a cut and take a cut yeah Yeah, yeah, by using Alex's name right and then the legal system is going to collect those fees, baby billable hours So now I think because they're talking about a sexy truck. Yeah, I think that Alex might Confess to something here that good could be illegal. That's great I don't know if there's gonna be any consequences well, but we'll see you know you go to the Alex Jones Alex might confess to something here that could be illegal. That's great. I don't know if there's going to be any consequences for this, but we'll see.

You know, you go to the alexjonesstore.com, you support Alex, you get entered to win a truck. Like it's a win-win, it's a no-brainer. It's fun. It's very fun. Well, I just found the truck I want. Me too. I want it too.

I'm kind of jealous. Well, I'm not just saying this, folks. You should. I've, because my Ford's got big tires and it's great and I put it through hell, but I even had the rear alignment fixed recently because it just rattles all over the road. I'd given the truck to my dad, but then with the bankruptcy stuff, he said, you can use the trucks. It's not even on my truck anymore.

But the point is, I love the old truck. Had a lot of fun in it. But I got to get rid of it once I drove this. I don't know how it's so smooth Did you give your dad a truck to shield it from bankruptcy? Yes, obviously Alex what are you talking about? Don't talk about giving away your assets in the context of a bankruptcy while you're on air doing something That's meant to shield assets from bankruptcy. I mean, I, you know, it is, it is like, the, what keeps society together is we all just

agree that if Alex doesn't say it out loud, maybe it's not true. But he did say it out loud. That's the problem. Now we all have to admit that the, that he's hiding his assets from the bankruptcy. He's frequently saying this shit out loud. And they are not doing anything about it. It's wild. So it's fine it's legal it's Wild if I am shocked that everybody is not stealing shit all the time

So I don't know Exactly how this business is set up because I didn't have a whole lot of time to look into it But it is just basically a Shopify. Yeah Sort of online store or whatever so front yeah in theory I mean enough pressure could be exerted on Shopify and this could be shut down sure because they I Imagine would not want to be associated with This very clear attempt on Alex's part to pivot customers from his business that is subject to bankruptcy Over to a new dummy business.

Right. That's owned by a guy who tried to overthrow the government. Well... I'm not saying people who try to overthrow the government shouldn't be allowed to own stores. That's not what I'm saying. Who among us? Hey, listen, I'm closer to the overthrow the government side than not half the time. But I don't know, at the very least you should have to make your own store. It can't just be something that Alex gives

you. I honestly think that trying to overthrow the government is more defensible than starting an online store for Alex Jones. Yeah, I 100% agree with you. I think you could construct a much more sound ethical argument for overthrowing the government. We celebrate overthrowing the government once a year. Right. So until we celebrate Alex stealing money from tragic families, then yeah, I think it's worse. So anyway, I got to a point where I was like, click. Yeah.

I'm not gonna listen to Alex and this digdawg talk about how great this truck is The problem is I would listen to the commercial about look at this sexy truck. Yeah, that's great I would listen to that for half an hour Yeah, Alex just sort of sitting in the studio with this guy trying to talk about the great truck not fun now And this is the day after the debate and the anniversary of September 11th if I'm this guy mm-hmm right? The anniversary of September 11th. If I'm this guy, right, the only reason that this guy is the guy who's chosen is because he's the guy who's not gonna be like,

why'd you pick me, right? Cause like if I'm, if Alex is like, hey, I'm trying to hide money from these families. And you are conveniently gonna be in prison. I would be like, why would you want, Why do you think I would want to be involved? There are some uncomfortable questions Be arisen I Get the whole idea that we could like in their world they can be like I'm hiding it from bankruptcy lawyers and all that stuff

But like at the end of the day you're stealing it from families of children. Yep. You're just a thief. Oh boy. Thief slash knife salesman slash... So... Yeah, so he... Shirt designer slash... Excuse me, sir. I know you have no morals. Please, I'm setting up a store.

I just I can't I can't find it within myself to understand that kind of a decision But hey, they're gonna make some bucks on some shitty hats and shirts best of luck to him Yeah, I guess whoever wins that sexy fucking truck. Oh also ten thousand dollars cash I forgot about that part damn it ten thousand dollars cash and the sexy truck That's the way people are trying to win. Oh, man. I kind of want that truck. $10,000 put up by the shirt company, Alex specifies. We're just robbing people. Feels like it.

Yep, yep. Anyway, we'll be back in another episode to see what the other kind of... Honestly, the heights of the first robot interview. the ride that we took, I really felt at a low when we hit that third interview. I thought like, I feel a little dirty. Now this, Alex is giving away a truck. You know, it's the problem with the roller coaster.

We went up too high. We heard the chick chick chick chick and we were like Well, we're obviously gonna stay up here forever. No, sir wrong. Nope now. We're giving away a fucking truck We'll see what happens with that. But until then we have a website Yep, we'll be back but tell that I'm neo on the oh, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor And now here comes the sex robot Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding Professor.