Knowledge Fight - #982: November 15, 2024

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how things are going for Alex the day after the Onion was announced as the winner of the auction for his company.  The day involves some light felo...ny accusations, and culminates with a triumphant return to the Infowars studio.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight! Dan and Jordan, I am sweating! N-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight! It's time to pray! I have great respect for knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys!
Starting point is 00:00:16 Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight! Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Knowledge fight. I need, I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and, Andy and. Stop it. Andy and, Andy and Kansas. Andy, Andy. It's time to pray.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm Andy and I'm a fan of Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship with the altar of Selene, and talk
Starting point is 00:01:04 a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around Worship with the Aldous Salene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan Jordan quick question for you What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? Why don't you go first? My bright spot today is Tennis tennis tennis tennis is the tennis finals ATP finals Yannick center versus Taylor fritz Yannick center is just out of this world right now. He's absolutely destroying everybody left and right. This is a new name for us because it's kind of silly and I think I would remember it.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's an Italian. So right now, atop the sport are him and Carlos Alcaraz. And they're awesome to have atop the sport together because they play in such a way like Yannick makes you look bad. Like he hits the ball harder than you. He makes you look like a smaller person than you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It is embarrassing. But Carlos makes himself look good. Like he does all kinds of fun. Does he make you look good though? You know, if you hit a good shot, he makes himself look so much better by doing something pretty. But it doesn't humiliate you in the process. No, no, no. Where's this Italian fellow? You don't even get the chance. You would love to play tennis with this guy, but it's already behind you. So he's like
Starting point is 00:02:20 the wrestling equivalent of a squash match. Yeah, absolutely. Where it's just like you're a job guy, you don't get any offense in, oh fuck you, I'm a beast. Yeah, and then whenever he plays Carlos, Carlos is the only person who can be pretty enough to defeat his force. Is a David and Goliath kind of thing? No, just two platonic ideals of a philosophy in contest with each other. And trapped in a situation where one wins as much as the other.
Starting point is 00:02:50 The poetry of sport. It's fascinating. Well, I'm glad. Glad you're enjoying it. I'm glad these new folks are coming in to fill the spots. They're doing a great job. You know, emptied by the retirees like Agassi and Sampras. Sampras has been gone for a while. Michael Chang, he's calling it quits. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Absolutely. What's your bright spot? Mackenro. Yep. My bright spot is I'm going on vacation. Indeed you are. We've been doing this show for a long time and I take very few vacations and so I'm going too.
Starting point is 00:03:23 We've got some episodes that we've pre-recorded, so they'll be coming out. Strange timing given that all this nonsense is going on with Alex. But I think that actually this episode that we're going to record is a solid argument for why I don't care. Good call. Alex should be put on a break anyway. And so maybe it is the perfect time. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:03:46 But given that we just had the election and Alex's auction and we're coming up on eight years of the show, it's maybe time for a little battery recharge. I think it's great. I think the funniest part is the moment that, or the first time Trump was elected, I left the country. Second time, you're Trump was elected, I left the country. Yeah. Second time, you're out of here. Yep. I love it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's the history rhymes. Yeah, something like that. So we got an episode to go over today, Jordan. We're going to be talking about the 20th, or the blah, the November 15th, 2024. All right. This is the day after it came out that the Onion had bought Infowars. Right. Jesus Christ. Infowars. Right. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:04:26 What a day. Woo! What a roller coaster. So we'll get down to business on all this, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Sammy the Space Corgi, engineer of the Star Cruiser Halcyon. Thank you so much for your now policy walk.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, this is all caps, so pretend I'm yelling it. Okay. I am a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt. Thank you so much, you're an out-policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, thank you to all the Brooklyn live show wonks who donated to and shared the fun for my partner's top surgery. The procedure went well and he's healing on schedule. You changed our lives and we couldn't be more grateful. Thank you so much You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much
Starting point is 00:05:08 I feel like that is too nice and awesome coming off. I kiss my own butt I think it's juxtaposition of those it was really important to me that I do that Otherwise we we're gonna be lost in a in a headspace. Just a little bit of a peek behind the curtain. If you want to shout out, you can email knowledgefightedgmail.com. Jordan compiles them and I'm cold reading them. So that was a jarring. So we also had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Natalie.
Starting point is 00:05:40 After 10 years, I'm still Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy about you. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars., King Kong crazy about you. Thank you so much. You're an out-technic rat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So we're going to jump right in here on the 15th, 2024. I am your host, Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And right before I went live, I received some incredible information. And this information is a lot bigger than me. It's a lot bigger than you. It's about all of us and It's just in incredibly over-the-top incredible and amazing and Devastating to the establishment I
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'm coming to you from the backup studios at the Alex Jones Network. It is 1109 Central Standard Time. And literally as I was going live on air, that's why we had some confusion. I had to take some phone calls and confirm some things that have now transpired. We already knew a lot of it yesterday. We learned a lot more once I got off air last night. And then this morning there has been a lot of activity. And you can see the headlines on real Alex Jones at X.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You can see the headlines at the Alex Jones network on X. But if I can just do an overhead shot and I had wanted to show the headline that was in there from Bloomberg and here it is for you. Angry judge orders transparency, angry judge questions transparency of onion bid for infowars. So last we left off, Alex was in studio desperate for someone to drag him out so he could make a scene and fulfill his Colonel Travis fantasies, but no one did. Eventually when he realized that there wasn't any good content coming, he went over to the new studio, which he totally doesn't own, and started complaining over there. In the time since, the federal bankruptcy judge in Alex's case, Christopher Lopez,
Starting point is 00:08:29 put the process of the sale on hold, calling for a hearing to get to the bottom of what happened. Alex alleges hijinks and conspiracy, and for some reason, everyone in official positions feels the need to take his claim seriously. Since our last episode, there's been some reporting on the bidding process, and as it turns out, there were only two bidders even in the running on the day of the auction. There was The Onion, and then there was a group that was on Alex's side, and for all intents and purposes, may as well have just been Alex.
Starting point is 00:08:57 The group that was just Alex in disguise is a company called First United American Companies, LLC, who seem to only exist in order to run a website called shopalexjones.com. The first thing you might notice about the name is that the First United part, which is a naming convention of churches, it's a very interesting piece of an otherwise incredibly bland and stupid name. Whatever. The physical address listed on Shop Alex Jones, that website, is in Florida, but I can't find any listings with the Secretary of State that this is a business registered there, either
Starting point is 00:09:30 as an entity name or as a doing business as alias. The same is true of First United American Companies LLC. The address on the site is a UPS store, so obviously that's a dummy location for receiving mail, not an actual brick and mortar business location. The business itself seems to be operated out of Texas because it's the shop Alex Jones, you know. So I would assume they would be registered to do business there. But again, I can't find any records that reflect First United American companies or shopalexjones.com
Starting point is 00:10:01 on the Secretary of State of Texas's website. I'm not the best at forensically going through business records. So I kind of hit a dead end, but my suspicion here is that it's all related to Biggley, the company that runs the Alex Jones store. My guess is that pretty much this is all at the root of this. And all of that is powered through Shopify, which is a publicly traded company that probably doesn't want to be a part of a very transparent effort to evade a high-profile bankruptcy settlement involving causing emotional distress to grieving family members.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So maybe they should shut this shit down. Maybe they don't want to be involved with this. Shopify? I don't know. Ugh. I mean, hey, anybody wanting to step up, feel free at any time. I feel like there's a vacuum available for the first person with any authority to be like,
Starting point is 00:10:50 uh, no. Shopify does seem like a place where there's like a pressure point. Like, cause if those stores are not able to run through Shopify, all of that infrastructure and everything falls apart. And Alex, I don't think has another option of, well, maybe there would be, but it doesn't exist at present.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Conserve-ify the Nazi version of Shopify. Probably doesn't have as good a processing and reliability. I mean, probably not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why they use Shopify. They only use Bitcoin. In looking through some business records, I also came across the Secretary of State's filing for Alex Jones Network LLC, which is a totally different company from Alex's Infowars. He doesn't own it or anything that's completely separate. Not at all related to him.
Starting point is 00:11:34 In fact, I don't even know who Alex Jones is. Incidentally, the Alex Jones Network was filed as a business on September 15th, 2024. And the only person in the filing is the managing member, Chase Brendan Geyser. How about that? That's right. Chase's middle name is Brendan because of course it is. Because of course it is.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah. So if you're keeping score, Alex's new network is owned and managed by his most sycophantic employee, his new pill operation sponsor is run by his dad and his brother-in-law, and his merch store is run by his knife guy who should probably be going to jail for assaulting a cop on January 6th. This is all comedic levels of obviously corrupt and if there's no consequences for any of this, I'm going to fuck around and turn into the Riddler. As it turns out, this very real company, First United American Companies, put in the highest
Starting point is 00:12:19 bid in terms of a cash offer. They bid $3.5 million, which makes me furious. If I knew it was going to be that low, I still don't think I could have raised the money, but I would have tried. I thought it was going to be in the low 8 figures, but I guess that very few people are actually interested in Alex's business. It only has value to his co-conspirators or to a business like The Onion who want to buy it as a pseudo-joke. Though they put in the highest cash bid, the trustee is not required to accept the highest bid in cash, but is required by a fiduciary duty to accept what is in their judgment the
Starting point is 00:12:53 best bid for the creditors. In this case, some of the Connecticut plaintiffs decided to waive portions of their settlements, which has the effect of reducing the credit burden Alex has considerably. This lowering of the credit burden on Alex helps them as the primary creditors, and also helps the other creditors that Alex owes money to because it makes them more likely to be paid off, as his overall burden is lower. This is a deal that the trustee can very easily justify accepting, and I don't think it'll have any problem if it gets heard in court But it's perfect for a little bit of time wasting and narrative building
Starting point is 00:13:29 So we see that this is how Alex is gonna proceed But like I I think you could make a pretty solid argument that like you'd have a responsibility to accept this offer Even though the other one is higher in cash. Sure. Sure. I mean Even just from a pure financial standpoint. Hey listen I Why why why would anybody apply things that make sense to what has occurred? Mm-hmm has it worked in the past? I don't know I can all that's all I can do though If a knife cannot cut a watermelon is it a knife? Then what's the point of using it to try and cut a watermelon?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Have you ever seen that knife crafting show? That show where they make knives? Forged in Fire? I think so. I think so, I have. I think they like will, you know, have you chop something and some knives cut, some don't. Yeah, exactly. But it's still a knife.
Starting point is 00:14:20 If you use the knife, if the knife cuts, then it is a useful tool in this regard. But if it breaks, it's still a knife. It is still a knife, but it is not useful in this regard. So in this sense, I imagine that applying reason, logic, and in fact, maybe the actual interpretation of the law, normally a very useful tool, an extremely sharp knife, appears to have no effect on watermelons these days. So Lord knows what could happen Yeah, I allow for the possibility of literal angels in the outfield to carry the judge to a place where he can say Whatever he wants. Well, it may happen. Yeah, and you know, hey far be it for me
Starting point is 00:14:59 I've been wrong about pretty much every prediction I've made so like yeah I'm gonna go with angels in the outfield because I'm comfortable being wrong about pretty much every prediction I've made. So like, yeah. I'm going to go with angels in the outfield because I'm comfortable being wrong about that one. So one thing that I think might happen, but also maybe not, is that Alex is probably trying to get himself in trouble with defaming the trustee. Good call. Because he is straight up accusing this dude of crimes. Great. So now the documents have been turned over by the US trustee from the justice department of what they actually did. And it's way worse than what is even in the news. And I just started learning this at 7 45 this morning. And I've been just
Starting point is 00:15:39 going over all of this. And quite frankly, I am basically speechless right now. I've also basically been been authorized, you know, that yes, what I'm saying is is completely accurate on its face on the record. And what is that? What was done is cut and dry, absolutely criminal in every aspect. And then right before I went live on air, a few minutes before I got the news, and I got it from very good sources. I double checked it and anytime you're in a new studio that you haven't been using, you know, it's a nice studio and works well, there's issues and new crews working together, same old crew, but mixed in. And then there was little issues. And that the new crew, I get really ready to launch before I go on air.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And it's like a thought process starts going. And if there's one screw up at the start, I can handle it two, three, four, five. I starts getting to me and I'm not mad. I'm just not at a place to be able to do the show right now. And I'm just being honest with viewers and listeners. I'm going to have a place to be able to do the show right now. And I'm just being honest with viewers and listeners. I'm gonna have to get my composure and I'm gonna have to relaunch the live show. Day one at the new studio.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I mean, it makes sense. It is day one. Things are not gonna go perfectly. No, but they went exactly like they do on day 1,000 million. It is old studio. I mean, yeah, absolutely. Still going to be furious about something not going right and have to restart the show.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Take the day off. It would be good. For God sakes. So also the US trustee, Chris Murphy, he needs to sue Alex. Alex is directly accusing him of committing crimes within the context of accepting this bid, which is defamatory. It has the potential to severely impact Murphy's public image and professional credibility, and if Alex can't back up his claims,
Starting point is 00:17:48 he needs to be held responsible for this. Whatever form that takes, whatever. I mean, I hate to say it, but if I was Alex, I would defame the shit out of everybody. What are you gonna do to me? Yeah, I would do it. I would defame the shit out of people. I would understand that in his position, but that is a situation where if everyone starts
Starting point is 00:18:13 taking it very seriously, then you will not be able to operate this smoothly. There will come a time if people stand up enough. Yeah, I Mean totally I'm just saying that if I was Alex I would just bet that you wouldn't you know like every like I'm gonna win most of the time if he gets buried under Barrage of people being like I demand a retraction and an apology for this Here's my lawyer. Sure, sure. If he did, then his time would be spent on air making these retractions, clarifying things.
Starting point is 00:18:52 People would see through like a lot of this facade, even if it doesn't end up bankrupting him through the, you know, through settlements and stuff like that. Maybe. There would be, well, we'll see by the end of this what you think. I mean, maybe. I don't, I don't know anymore. that. Maybe. There would be, well, we'll see by the end of this what you think. I mean, maybe. I don't know anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think that by the end of this episode, you might get a little bit of a sense that this could work. I'm excited. Because Alex changes his tune considerably. I'm excited. So he has some big news, but like he said, he's got to go off air. Sure. Something's not working out. God's telling him to go off air. Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:27 This is historic. What's happened. I've not announced what's happened yet. What has been discovered and I was almost not gonna cover it right away so I could think about it some and and then that must have been God telling me When everything that we did just wouldn't even go out over there, so I'm not meant to be on air right now. That's God. Actually, that's God telling me that I shouldn't do the show right now. And that's what's going to happen now. So we've got really important information, news, while I'm reflecting. That might not come back on today. So that's just where we are.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Um, so I am trying my best here. You're doing good, man. You're doing good. This raises an interesting question. What's that I have for symbolism from, uh, God. All right. So God turns off the lights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Right. And you go, well, God doesn't want me to have lights. Obviously, obviously, that makes sense. Now, my question is, is that a sign that you should listen to, right? That can be then like he can turn the lights back on, but you still go, I'm not supposed to have lights on today. Or is God determining the exact length that you can and cannot have lights on? I think that if you follow this train of thought too much, you can't do anything. You can't really do... everything is exactly as God wants it to be. So you turning on the
Starting point is 00:20:59 lights is corrupting how he wants you to be in the darkness. It makes sense. So if Alex were to fix the problems with the broadcast. That's what I think. Then he is subverting God's will. That is what I believe, yes. Which really, at a certain point, all you can do is sit in a room, I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I think God is telling Alex to sit in a room quietly. Everything in its natural state, devoid of any influence from you. Is quiet in a room? That's what God wants. And if God doesn't want that, he'll change it. I like that. I like that you've discovered inertia through God.
Starting point is 00:21:34 So Alex does go off air for a little bit, then he comes back and he has some big news. All right. Again, the Bloomberg headline people think is shocking, because I said this while the hearing was going on yesterday. Angry judge questions transparency of onion bid for M4s. No, he said that auction wasn't real and didn't happen. I'd think for him to say. The onions, M4s takeover to review bankruptcy auction process. There is no spoon.
Starting point is 00:22:03 You have to understand that's not even the big news. That would normally be the big news. The onion didn't buy info wars Wednesday. They didn't have an auction. They didn't pay money. They were given it. The sham on its face, prima facie. But that's not even the big news. Oh my God. These aren't even the big news. He's got big news and these aren't even them. He's covering the not big news.
Starting point is 00:22:35 All right. So here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm thinking was the mistake. You got a pre, you got a prenup. Okay. You gotta pre you gotta prenup Okay, so like if we're gonna do this process I get that the trustee and the courts and all of them have like a way they do this thing But what you got to do is prenup with Alex and be like you tell me the exact Circumstances under which you will not you'll just shut the fuck up at the end of this process
Starting point is 00:23:02 I don't care what they are. Fucking you make them. Clown cars, I don't give a shit. At the end of it, you will shut up, won't you? And they'll write it down that you have to shut up. But there won't be something. Right, but then, whenever they don't shut up, at the end of it, we don't even have to have a hearing or anything, they just go like, ah, ha ha, shut up.
Starting point is 00:23:20 We have the shut up paper. It's like a deal with the devil. But there is no terms that Alex is going to agree to that will be like, and then I'll shut up. That's the answer to your own question then! If he's not going to agree to any terms, then there's no point in bothering with terms! I guess. Just call him out on it! Either sign the document that you're willing to take responsibility for this process,
Starting point is 00:23:46 or you don't get the process. It's a sweetheart deal just for Alex. I'm the devil. Okay. I figured it out. I think I am the devil. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You're making a compelling case. I think I've got it. Have you been showing Alex clocks lately? Okay. Now, people say that that's wrong. All right. People have some- To mess with his head like that and to tell him what time it is in the middle of the night. lately okay now people say that that's wrong all right people have make it to mess with his head like that and tell him what time it is in the middle of the
Starting point is 00:24:08 night yeah and then tell him it's God telling it back and then tell him when to stop here that's what I that's what I just find fun yeah we got to get through how we get through yeah so those aren't the big stories there's not that's not the big news yeah real real pump fake kind of right so here's the the big news. Yeah. Real, real pump fake kind of. Right, right. So here's the big news. There's really three big stories I'm about to break that affect everybody. And the first one is Trump's taking the gloves off.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Elon Musk is taking the gloves off. Dog Bites Man. And the other two are about what has been discovered and what has happened and. What has already been. Done. About 25 minutes ago. Man now I told the bad guys yesterday. And I put up videos last night before this was 100% confirmed.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I mean the corruption that there wasn't an auction, that it was bid collusion, felonies, all that's just opened and shut, done. Red handed. Rats leaving sticky ship, turning on each other, already, that happened today. So he's definitely accusing some crimes there. But I like that, what happened 25 minutes ago is a real, you've already ingested the poison Mr. Bond. I like it. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I like it quite a bit I have already hit the doomsday switch The antidote is right here now. Give me the diamond. Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:32 So the three big stories are Alex whining about his own persecution a bunch and him saying that his big strong father figures Trump And Musk are once again taking the gloves off seems like these gloves keep on coming off. So weird. Yeah. Why bother putting them back on all the time? I would love it if one day Alex was like, all right, here's the big news, Trump's putting the gloves back on. No, no, no, I think they should be-
Starting point is 00:25:53 Because they have to be getting put back on. I'm saying there should be a constant glovometer of how on or off the gloves are at any given point in time. Color-coded terror meter. Absolutely, do we have a single Michael Jackson glove scenario? Uh oh, mittens, we got mittens. Oh shit, oh shit, the nuclear codes are open. Yeah, we got, oh, ooh, we got fingerless biker gloves.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Threat level workout gloves. Yeah, yeah, that's serious. So, in terms of the vote collusion thing that Alex is talking about that he's accusing the other side of yeah I was thinking about this a little bit I wanted to play a little moment from our last episode when Alex called Steve Bannon out of the blue Okay, just listen to this little section again Yeah, I pointed out last time that what the fuck is the story that could have a lot of different meanings and that it was too bad that Alex cut Bannon off.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Alex was clearly trying to make sure that Bannon didn't say anything that he shouldn't say on air thinking they were just on the phone, but I think Alex was too late. If you really listen to that clip carefully as I did over and over again, just before and while Alex is cutting him off Bannon says I thought Roger Yep, before Alex drowns him out Bannon was saying that he thought Roger was buying Infowars and he clearly knows that Alex has information about what the fuck the story is Bannon's tone in that moment belies that he knows that Alex knows about the bids If Alex hadn't cut him off and told them they were on the air
Starting point is 00:27:24 There's a good chance Bannon would have said something even more damning for Alex's whole pretense that he's putting on of being uninvolved. Yeah. Like there's... I mean, he might as well have been like, I thought when we talked about this, Roger was going to purchase Infowars using the money that you gave him that you're not supposed to have so you can continue owning the thing that you're not supposed to own. It might as well have said that.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Now, I think it would be really funny if Roger had ended up buying Infowars and then being like, jokes over, dude. I got you on a contract. Fuck off. I'm your boss now. Now it's time to really buckle down and get to work. Right. There's like a dur-ner, dur-der, kind of like sound or whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:05 and Roger puts on a top hat, and he's like, now I'm in my super villain form. Finally, finally, get to monocle out. So nice to meet you, Alex. Oh, did you know that I've been bored recently? Did you take me seriously, Alex? I also think it would be really funny if since Chase Geyser kind of owns
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, again, also very network if you just decided to like yeah, fuck you Alex. Yep. Yeah, you have your boss Now you have put my name in official documents, which you think still does not make them official But I can choose to make them official. Mm-hmm. That's how official works Yeah, you have given me the's how official works. You have given me the keys to your car. You cannot own this company legally. That's why you used me on this document. And now I have leverage over you. And your real threat to me is twofold. It is either you can fire me, which no you cannot,
Starting point is 00:29:02 or you can hurt me, which is against the law in a real way as opposed to the other ones that we've been dealing with He's Alex has got to be real comfortable that chase is a real dipshit. Totally like I am on board I mean for him to go that like why not use Rob do or why not? Like there's a whole lot of other people that are just as closely associated with Alex that you'd think he trusts more I mean very weird if if as people theorized way back when we first met Brendan which is what I'm gonna call That he was somehow a double agent Owning one of the major money-making operations and still allowing Alex to have it, kind of turns all that to shit.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah. I don't know what the reveal would be. I own all of your stuff and I'm burning it, or like the Joker. I'm burning the bottom half of the pile of money. But I don't know what you could be waiting for. Yeah, that's a fair point. At this point. No, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Oh no, yeah. Yeah, you're totally right. Yeah. So the night before this, they had something of a hearing and Alex has heard That there's a criminal investigation that's been opened. All right about The the steel they stole his company from the steel fake auction. Oh shit Then the hearing happens goes on for a couple hours My lawyers other lawyers musk lawyers, they're all there the case. I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:30:26 say anything. My lawyers, other lawyers must lawyers. They're all there. We need time to go over the transcripts. Look at this to make sure we saw actually happened. Then Murray gives the documents to the highest bidder, which is supposed to by law. Finally.
Starting point is 00:30:37 They actually get what he did. Pledging my future earnings appeals. You can't pledge somebody's earnings if you've won the case. The Supreme Court said Jones is, you know, liable. That hasn't happened. But you can't pledge that in 13th Amendment a bunch of other laws. I'm sorry. And we learn at eight o'clock at night, what just how bad it was. what just how bad it was. Then I learn from individuals high up, multiple sources that there's major interest in this by President Trump and by Elon Musk. Then my lawyers start getting calls and other lawyers start getting calls from the media saying they hear this and that there is a criminal investigation of this already going on by the federal
Starting point is 00:31:31 government in Houston. Then I get more calls this morning and the people involved have now reached out and said we didn't know this was illegal. We were told to do this. We'll give you everything. We don't want to go to prison. Fun. Then I the judge. I get the call. Then I get the call. That the judge could do an emergency hearing now today. And a lot
Starting point is 00:32:19 more. I'm not going to get into And then three minutes before we go live. This has been going on for hours. I hadn't been told because people are busy. The US trustee Chris Murray calls and says look. I made a mistake. We shouldn't have shut down in full wars. It happens. We shouldn't have turned off the broadcast. The judge said I didn't have the authority
Starting point is 00:32:48 You can go back to your studios we're putting in full wars back up now Let's put on screen in full wars commas back up live if that isn't proved or buddy what I'm saying here. There it is It's not proof of that. But so we now have The trustee has called and apologized and said, we made a mistake. Oh no. He has, Alex has people calling and being like, oh, we'll give you everything. We're flipped. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Who are those people who have flipped and are going to tell him everything? They just don't want to go to prison. Who are those people? If not, like he's trying to imply that it's the trustee. I feel like I am more than aware that the prisons are overpopulated. However, I am also fairly certain they are not overpopulated with trustee related offenses. Yeah. Yeah, probably not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Also, the trustee didn't do anything bad in this case. Sure. Well, we don't know that yet until there's been a anything bad in this case. Sure. Well, we don't know that yet until there's been a criminal investigation by Elon Musk. That is true. Yes. The federal government that is not under the control of Trump yet is going to get to the bottom of this on Alex's behalf because Trump won the election. This is dumb and Alex when he has to
Starting point is 00:34:06 Present something that justifies this idea that there is a criminal investigation. Yeah, it's a guest on Steve Bannon's podcast saying There should be hey, there you go. That's what that comes down to. There you go. Cool Okay, that's an interesting. That's an interesting thought process. All right, so You're you're President Trump, you've got all the Republicans that you need to do the stuff. Can you pitch a flyer where you allow Alex Jones to rewrite laws about Alex Jones? Yes! So, like, Alex gets to write all Alex specific laws that only apply to him, like in the bankruptcy process Alex Jones gets to keep all Alex Jones related Alex Jones materials because Alex Jones blank.
Starting point is 00:34:55 You know what I'm saying? I feel like the history has shown that he is a colossal asshole. True. And maybe on a level that no one has ever dealt with or we're not accustomed to seeing. Sure, sure. So, maybe what you do is you say, all right, you get to make up your own rules, but none of it sets a precedent. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It's just you. Yeah. You have a weird get out of jail free card. But it doesn't apply to other people. Nope. Like whatever ends up happening in the courts other people might still get you are just like we have to pretend that your reality is real or else you're gonna bother absolutely if there's like a force field around you of like you have the black diamond law card nobody people just don't fuck with you anymore
Starting point is 00:35:43 they're just like fine I feel like Trump could do that I'd be an interesting thought experiment but he might not which is the danger because Alex apparently got a little bit chewed out on the morning of the 15th I Trump and Musk apparently they are upset that you got bought by the onion oh my god and I'm not gonna say anymore but let's just say Trump and Elon Musk are have already met about this and I got shoot out actually yesterday morning. Because they didn't understand that that was going on. And they, you know, nice folks were, say behind the scenes, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:35 some folks were like, what do you need? And I said, and I'd already told them, I said, this is all rigged and I'm not gonna, you know, I said, it should be better if you wanna help launch this big network and stuff, which we're ready to do. Let's just wait and let's let this process play out. I said, I've got a gut feeling they're going to buy it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm more than they can chew. And so the big dogs did not enter this. So if you're understanding what Alex is claiming about himself here, he rigged the auction. He told people not to bid. Someone like an Elon Musk or representative of Elon Musk, don't bid on this. Put the money into the business that I'm creating. I feel like it might be illegal. I mean, sure.
Starting point is 00:37:19 My question is, all right, so these people are chewing Alex out. Why? My question is why well Alex does kind of explain that? he See this is where it's like okay. None of this is real right so it doesn't make sense from a human motivation sure But Alex is like these people thought that I was in on it with the buy the onion buying my company That's why they were chewing him out because he predicted that they would steal the auction and write it and all this right And so because he was so smart and knew what was gonna happen. He must have been in on the plot, which doesn't make any sense That's very stupid. Yeah, but it's how Alex rationalizes that does make more that makes sense from an Alex standpoint I was just thinking from like a chewing out standpoint
Starting point is 00:38:07 Because then the thought occurred to me that are they? Relying on Alex for credible information about the present day No You know what I mean like if you want to know what's going on you would call the lawyer And you would be like even if you talk to Alex you'd be like Alex lied to me about this What is going on right? So there's no lied to me about this. What is going on? Right? So there's no point in chewing out Alex.
Starting point is 00:38:27 What, is he going to tell the truth? No, but it might just be fun. There's, I mean, it might be fun just to yell at Alex. Yeah. Yeah. The exchange you're going to have with him is going to be different than if you're talking to a lawyer and maybe you just need a charge. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You know, maybe you're having a, maybe you had your second cup of coffee and you're feeling crazy. See, now that's the human motivation that makes sense to me. Yeah. Yeah, it's a show Yeah, if they just wanted to yell it out if he's like, hey They just wanted to yell at me because I fucked up and that would make sense to me. Yeah. Yeah, so I heard this clip and I mean I don't really have anything to say other than like imagine it's someone other than Alex have anything to say other than like imagine it's someone other than Alex saying this. Okay. And think about how worried you would be about their well-being. Okay. A fake auction for a fake purchase, not just that they didn't get the purchase. The media said they got it, as the judge said. No, no. I mean, it wasn't even real money that they put at a lesser amount to get it. I mean, that's like perfect. Like perfect inversion. Like God is perfect
Starting point is 00:39:30 and Satanism is inversion. It's like they, it's everything is a lie. Everything is BS. It's a work of art. It's like, how do you, I mean, and I get why with other people this works because it's just, it's like New York times articles. I use this one all the time. There's been so many, but it's like, Oh, I worked for Alex Jones. It was terrible or whatever. And then it's like, you read it and 99% isn't true. And, but it's this elaborate fantasy land of lies and twisted BS and you're, it's so complex and you're reading it about yourself going, is any of this no none of
Starting point is 00:40:05 that ever happened what what jones walks into the coffee room and grabs the black woman's ass and says i want to have babies and marry you okay what zero happened jones was mad at employees for the fish. I'm not sure what Wall Street in there. I think wait, it's better. Let's add finding Nemo. The fish was about to be given to That employees niece There was never a fish tank in the building what is happening right now being eaten there was no niece And it's some kind of I think the CIA must be writing these or something because when you really read it you're sure the the fish. Oh yeah, it was for the niece and the whole. Thing is about inviting them. Oh,
Starting point is 00:41:31 you know the fish. Being grabbed for the knees and then you start reading other articles by other people and you see what that's from a movie. That's from a movie. That's from a movie. They're not just plagiarizing. I
Starting point is 00:41:42 figured it out. They're doing that because people who are unconscious. And most of the public's now and kind of a mesmerized near sleep level the studies out on that from all the TV and stuff. They're like, kind of NPCs. Sure. An NPC reads that and goes, yeah, yeah, because their brain has seen that. Their brain knows somebody ate the fish. That was the nieces. Uh-huh. And you're like, wow.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Wow, indeed. So Josh Owens' article from the New York Times didn't claim that Alex ate someone's goldfish. He claimed that Alex threw someone's goldfish in the trash. From the article, quote, once a coworker stopped by the office with a pet fish he was taking home to his niece. It swam in circles in a small transparent bag. When Jones saw the bag balanced upright on the desk in the conference room, he emptied it into a garbage can.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Alex has changed the allegation of this to he ate it, so he can claim that the CIA is just attacking him with movie plots. Alex creates fake versions of the claims against him because they're straw men that are easier to attack. Instead of dealing seriously with the complaints brought by the Sandy Hook families, for example, Alex pretends that he was accused of peeing on a child's grave. It's an accusation no one made, but he feels comfortable defending himself about because he is definitively innocent of that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 If he were to deal with the real substantive complaints about his behavior and coverage, he would not have that shield of being definitively innocent, which is a fundamental part of his, woe is me, everyone hates me for being too good schtick. This entire righteous indignation is mostly just him being righteously indignant about fake things no one's accusing him of. He operates this way because he's a moral coward. But also, if you do listen to that last clip, the way that I set it up, imagine it's someone else saying those things. You would rightly think that they were severely paranoid
Starting point is 00:43:28 and they needed help. I figured it all out. The CIA is writing fake stories to make me look bad. And in order to trick everyone into believing them, they use the plots of fake, the plots of movies on a completely unrelated story. Let me tell you about how God has granted me superpowers that weirdly mirror plot points
Starting point is 00:43:43 from the Matthew McConaughey movie Interstellar. This is a person who you should not look at as anything other than tragic. It is a testament to the way we interact with people depends first upon their baseline. This is your baseline behavior. So this in this direction is crazy, and in this direction is, you know. Whereas with Alex, if your baseline is this, everybody's like, nah, nah, nah, that's just him.
Starting point is 00:44:12 You don't gotta worry about that. Well, I think- What a weird societal trait we have. Oh, I think that anybody who actually listens to his show is acclimated to this. And we'll hear him talk about the CIA writing these articles about him based on movies in order to trick people and all this.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And they'll be like, whoa. And then everybody else doesn't listen to his show. So they don't know he says this shit. Right. And everyone is just like, they don't realize that this is crazy, but it's also normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the baseline. They think that the turning the frogs gay is the baseline.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Wrong baseline, fellas. Turning the frogs gay is deeply respectable on the Alex scale of things. It's him operating almost at the top of his intelligence. I agree. Now here's another theory that I've just come up with. What if he genuinely does not know how to read in such a way that all he does is scan for certain code words
Starting point is 00:45:16 then because this code word does exist, he correlates that to an image that he remembers from a movie. Yeah. Thus creating an article that does include actual movie plots because he can't actually read the words. So he figures by putting this word in here, he's filling in the blank with the plot. It's possible, but then you'd also have to add on, uh, like
Starting point is 00:45:38 another layer of like, he always makes mistakes in the same direction. Like he never ends up reading an article that reminds him of a movie that challenges his belief That's a good point or anything. You never asked to like wrestle with anything true So I think there's a denial element to it too Even if there is totally whatever that is you're describing absolutely so I got kind of bored because we're here this this day after Alex's business gets bought by a joke site and it's just him complaining and talking about himself and I'm like, just give
Starting point is 00:46:12 me something. Give me anything. And thankfully we get something. Here is the clip. Project Veritas released undercover video of a UN manager admitting that war is the only way to make serious cash And that lazy staff are rooting for warmongering Haley to be president over Trump The United Nations manager peacekeepers has said the quiet part out loud. Yeah, the peacekeepers are the warmongers
Starting point is 00:46:37 This is a powerful the full report is going up on info wars calm now back up There was the sale did not go through. It was not a real auction. This has red flags all over it. Like why is Nikki Haley's candidacy coming up in this story? Like it feels very out of date or at very least it seems like that's kind of an indication that this story is not a bombshell. This is a clip that was released by the new project Veritas, now with 100% less James O'Keefe.
Starting point is 00:47:05 So Alex really shouldn't think they're putting out good Patriot content. They're supposed to have been taken over by the globalists who forced O'Keefe out, but I guess who gives a shit about character consistency or object permanence? When I heard Alex bring this clip up, I thought, who cares? It makes total sense that someone at the UN could say that war has a financial aspect to it and people often make more money off war than peace. That's not surprising in the least. So it seems like this was just going to be a standard Veritas dud.
Starting point is 00:47:33 However, when he actually played the clip, I was baffled by this. This was nuts. So people are employed at the UN that actually don't work? At the point where people have these things that they have to end their building, I think it's a couple of parts. Really? It's not a lazy people. Really? It's an environment where, again, you have a stable job.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You're not going to be fired. You also don't get a valuation. I mean, the only thing you make money in the UN is if you go to war. If you work for a country, you get paid more. Really? So this guy was saying that people who work at the UN in lower level roles can become somewhat complacent since he feels there aren't a ton of reviews or possibilities for advancement and you have a stable job. The way that one would get a pay raise would be to serve in an area where you would get hazard pay, like country at war.
Starting point is 00:48:33 This is such a perfect encapsulation of what's wrong with the conspiracy ecosystem that Alex is the face of. There is a real serious problem about war profiteering, and it's something that we need to address if we want any chance at a decent future for all of humankind. Too many companies have financial incentives that are not served by peace, like some of the companies run by noted defense contractor Elon Musk, and we need to not be naive about this. But this undercover video is a guy expressing that he feels the only way to get slightly
Starting point is 00:49:02 better hourly rates as a low-level employee at the UN is to be serving in a dangerous area. This is not him expressing a motive to exacerbate or continue wars, which is what Alex wants to present this video as being evidence of. It's a pathetic misuse of information that actually serves to make it more difficult to address the real problem it's pretending to be concerned about. And that is so indicative of the way Alex operates. And that's why I felt like this was a shocking clip. Why would you do this? I find it fascinating that they just got a regular old exit interview clip.
Starting point is 00:49:44 You know what I mean? Like, this is like, hey, I put in my two weeks notice and then I, okay, tell us about your experience working here. There anything there's no opportunity for advancement. And I feel like the only way to get a raise is through a lot of people aren't working as hard as they could be because you just, you know, you get in a rut, your government waste. I don't know what to tell you, you know, like, and then we we'd all go like yeah, that sounds about right I feel like that sounds about right. Yeah, I've been in jobs where hazard pay is a thing I understand with this like it reveals such a Like
Starting point is 00:50:19 When you play this clip in the context that Alex is trying to use it in, it reveals so much about how fraudulently you operate. To me, I feel like it's worse than not doing it, but it doesn't matter. The people who are the consumers for the Veritas type media, they won't even recognize probably that this is what this guy is talking about. They'll just think, the and admitted they start wars for money They're primed. They're primed to believe a thing and then they're given a Sound effect that will give them, you know comfort there and to not engage with that sound effect critically Right. All right
Starting point is 00:50:59 Cuz you cuz you don't need to what they need to do is tell you what you want to hear and then give you a Sound effect, right, you know, like that's it's a bummer. Yeah So Alex I told you earlier in the show you might get a different perspective on People suing him sure and I think that this next clip is where that begins to become clear. Okay, because obviously Someone told Alex to shut the fuck up. He cannot say these things about the trustee. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And they just had this fake auction that was a private secret sale masquerading as an auction. Now, let me just say that's my opinion and it was my opinion last night that I would be giving Infowars back and that we would be put back on the air the judge's opinion. And it was my opinion last night that. I would be given info wars back. And we would be put back
Starting point is 00:51:51 on the air because I could see what the judge said. I could read the news articles that had quotes of him. I could talk to my lawyers that were there. And he said this wasn't an auction. And we got to have a hearing on this. So if that wasn't an
Starting point is 00:52:04 auction, they didn't get info wars. I'm, I mean, that's not what I'm saying. If you're going to say, well, if I was in an auction, they didn't get info wars. I'm not a lawyer. That's my opinion. Well, now that's admitted. So that does that mean down the road? Something might happen. Does that mean the judge might just be sick of it and say,
Starting point is 00:52:15 shut it down? That could even happen. Does it mean there have another auction? Does it mean they're going to say, Well, the real highest bidder got it. That's probably what everybody thinks should happen in the wall. I don't know. That's my opinion of what might happen. Um, you know, Chris Murray's, the trustee's lawyer was calling up my lawyers and saying, oh,
Starting point is 00:52:33 Jones is saying Chris Murray apologized, you know, to him. He didn't do that. Like I said, a lot of stuff in the first hour on a teleprompter and I haven't gone back and reviewed it, but that that was not my intent either. He said to me on the phone in front of Bob yesterday, and he told Bob, oh, I'm, you know, I know, I'm sorry, this is a bummer or whatever, but no hard feelings. Not like I'm sorry for what I did. You know, I'm sorry this is a big hassle for you.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I know no hard feelings. I mean, that's what I remember him saying. I got it recorded. I mean, we'll see. That was exactly what was said. But that's what they're calling up about saying isn't true. Oh, okay. So did you, what else was wrong?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Cause you can come on Chris Murray. I got your number. I can call you. Would you like to come on right now? Come on the show. I mean, I mean that. So this is an amazing moment. This is Alex realizing in real time and on air that he can't just make up whatever he
Starting point is 00:53:20 wants about the trustee with no consequences. Alex has directly alleged on this episode that Chris Murphy called him and apologized about the sale and said, we made a mistake and give you Infowars back. This is Alex alleging that Murphy admitted to fraud, which is why Alex has, that's what he's accused him of on this show. Alex clearly got a message from his lawyer that he needs to cut that out. So now you hear this mealy-mouthed bullshit. The apology and admission of guilt
Starting point is 00:53:46 is maybe now just a guy being polite. Alex has tapes, but he's not gonna play them. Murphy could come on the show and clear his name by letting Alex use them as a prop for this publicity stunt. Why wouldn't he do that? That must mean I'm right. This is so sad. Yeah, yeah, Alex is probably like,
Starting point is 00:54:02 man, if Norm was a bankruptcy lawyer, I wouldn't have to deal with this shit. Ugh. But this is- That's a buffer. This is what you could hear a bunch of. Yeah. If people were just like, all right, lawyer time, I'm going, obviously people can't afford to do that,
Starting point is 00:54:19 but some pseudo public figures and legal folks can. So maybe the trustee here is in a particular situation where they're able to be like, you can't say that shit about me. I mean, yeah, somebody was watching. Yeah. Somebody was watching. There you go. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:54:37 And that's maybe that's the answer. Just constantly ask for demand retractions. Man, I'd rather give him the fucking black diamond law card Jesus Christ so Alex has a guest on uh-huh. He's a general He's a Flynn he hangs out with Papa John a man. I was for some reason in but in the back of my head I was like this is the right time for stubblebind forgetting that he is dead. He's dead. He's low long dead Yeah, yeah, he's hanging out with the aliens. Yeah, Yeah. So Flynn is on and I don't really give a fuck, but he says something that I just thought was really weird. There's going to be some, some bumps. Trump is going to experience
Starting point is 00:55:15 some bumps, but don't let those bumps, you know, stop our forward momentum. So I want people to understand we've broken through the hedgerows. We're going to push. We're going to push these guys back where we cannot declare victory over Europe. Just yet. I love the fact that Trump is operating out of Mar-a-Lago. The fact that he's operating out of Mar-a-Lago personally for me makes makes me feel better for his own security. So to be totally clear, Flynn is using the Battle of the Hedges just after the D-Day invasion as a metaphor for where we are in the fight.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I guess the first administration was D-Day or maybe that was the 2024 election, but this period here before Trump gets back in office is the Battle of the Hedges where we're breaking through the hedges. That's all good and well, but why does Flynn think that the objective of the United States in World War II was to declare victory over Europe? There was one side that wanted to do that and that was Hitler's side The US was on the side of the European allies who'd been invaded by the Nazis. There's a weird insight into his mind Let's not declare a victory over Europe yet. I mean it does make sense if you track his
Starting point is 00:56:22 Ideology from Nazi Germany through America. No, that's what I'm saying. It's strange that insight. It's revealing a little. Yeah, it's like my grandfather was a Nazi scientist. I don't know how he got to America, like one of those things. Legal immigration. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So, fuck Flynn, don't care about him, and he's not saying anything all that interesting, and Papa John's not there. He really, he screwed himself over because now every time he's gonna be on, I'm gonna be like, where's the pizza man? Man. Where's the pies?
Starting point is 00:56:59 I think, I think, here's what I think Flynn is exemplifying, and this is the thing I think that is going to eventually unite us all, regardless of what we believe. The government needs to fix a thing and then be done. You know what I mean? There's never going, it's always, oh, there's gonna be bumps in the road. Oh, we'll get there.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And it's never, like fucking cure polio. They cure polio, they can fix a thing. Sure. Pick a thing and then fix it. You know what I'm saying? Here's what Flynn can fix. The very serious pizza shortage. Right? He knows about that. I mean serious, no that's it. Everybody gets a pizza. That would be more convincing because it's like oh a thing. You fixed a thing. Well it's a small problem of I don't have a pizza right now. More important is that they did it. Well, I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Instead of being like, oh, I mean, sure, you can have some pizza. Ah, god damn it, fix a thing. So most of this episode has been Alex whining and saying that this isn't a real auction. The trustee committed these crimes, these felonies on their face. And then being scolded and being like,
Starting point is 00:58:10 look, it's just my opinion. And so everything changes to these are my opinions. His tone entirely flips. He's still complaining and saying he got screwed over in this auction, but he's being mindful of repeating like, my opinions, I'm not a lawyer, a lot of caveats. And I think it starts to drive him insane. I think you've just, I mean, you've described a lot of things that he's done, but I think
Starting point is 00:58:36 what you've described is justifying the reason he just sounds nuts. Bad guys mess with me a little too much. So I've been a little afraid to do it. But I went ahead and flip the switch. And everybody's flipping the switch right now it's called an uprising it's called a global awakening it's called humanity coming back from the dead all right let's talk about our okay junior let's not let's talk about R.K. Jr. Let's not let's talk about him. Let's not let's get into it. Let's get into it. It's about time we talked about R.K. Jr. when R.K. Jr. was running a third party campaign that Alex I was going to Trump he declared war upon him at his house. Yep. And then now that
Starting point is 00:59:43 he's with Trump he's a great guy. Can't wait for him to head up the HHS. But that just seemed nuts, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, when you throw in RFK, that nothing seems nuts anymore. Like the moment you say those letters, I go, oh, what's he going to behead today? That's what's fascinating about that clip, is that the beginning of it, Alex has this grumbly kind of weird, the bad guys pissed me off, and you're really upset about that. And then he's like, now let's talk about RFK Jr. but in a kind of normal serious tone, and that's more upsetting.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all terrifying. This whole world, nuts. So Alex spends a lot of time talking about how he needs money, and he wants money. Yeah, give him money Do you mean justifying why he's on air well? I? maybe Because just kind of making noises That sounds right. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, and I don't want to be one fight the new world order
Starting point is 01:00:43 Let's say I'm like a star fighter blasting the enemy tie fighters and my energy levels way down and I just ignore it because I'm like going around the fight and all of a sudden ship turns off. I'm like, ah, and so I'm like, watch it. Blank blank energy, energy, danger, danger, danger. And I'm like, you know, destroying the enemy. And I'm down to like a half a life. I'm like, Hey guys, I got half a life left. Will you put one more on like you're playing Galaga? You know, you're down to one life and I'm like, Oh, you also you're blue. Oh, another life. Oh, thank you. I'd really like maybe I love it when you're playing Gallagher. There's like six lives. You want to mean, but you play harder when you're
Starting point is 01:01:19 down to that one life. I always noticed that I'm a huge video game. I play a lot of Gallagher as a kid somewhere around here. I had it in the house like the video console with the old-fashioned games got like 20 games on a Gallagher I know I'm down to one life. I gotta say I spent seven levels with one life So maybe that's why God always keeps me at one life This is stressing me out and you want me up here like give me money Give me money, give me money and I want you and give me money, and I'm watching, and I hate that, but what I really hate is watching one life. And I'm like, I really don't want to start back, yeah, yeah, because I hate losing more than I hate begging. And it's not like I'm a baby bird sitting there in the nest doing nothing, like mommy, give me food, me, me, me, you know, the big bird, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep meep I just came out in 1974. I was even born the point was this is amazing like Sesame Street, but I like Cookie Monster and
Starting point is 01:02:46 I liked The aliens would show up occasionally. They sure would that is that is that was incredible Yeah, I felt I felt it there are two things that I felt in that moment There are two things I felt I felt just to I felt 14 years younger I felt like a baby comic just starting out going to a party feeling really excited that I was invited because I was like I didn't know anybody and then and then to like, you know When you find a new friend group as an adult when you don't have one at all, it's always a little nerve-racking And then being cornered at like a party by a far older comedian
Starting point is 01:03:25 Someone who has a like substantially higher status maybe And is a grown adult Far more than And then they start making noises at you And then they're fucking coked out of their mind Going off and you're like Oh there's no reason for me to be here at all I've made a huge mistake
Starting point is 01:03:43 But you have to put up with it because of course you want to be cool And then you might get gigs and it's happening like this these gonna make these noises one way or the other Yeah Yep, and then I had the next feeling which was that I was now in the crowd at an open mic watching that comic Realizing that was it testing out material on me. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was heartbreaking. That was an odd. That was an emotional journey. I just went on. That's a ride you went on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was intense. I felt like someone with a like a notepad or like, you know, just scribbling notes sure I've just asked how does that make you feel observing?
Starting point is 01:04:29 I just sort of put my pen in my mouth sure just like chew on the camera You've got a little teaching group. What are we gonna do this? Felt like house now class. This is the this is not the first time you've seen this before. What have we done? I felt like I am a doctor and I am very confident while he's making noises. Because I know what's going on here. He's being passive aggressive about the people who aren't going to the document cam and he's going beep beep beep beep beep over and over again. I get this. This is lashing out. I understand. Then as a doctor, I feel unsafe once he starts talking about how he likes the Cookie Monster. Because now I have no idea why we're doing this. This free association train has gone to Elon Musk,
Starting point is 01:05:16 maybe talking to him like a Martian because of the Bebeboop stuff, and then we've jumped to Sesame Street. Oof. That's when you're, what I see is you doing that and then as he keeps going we pan out and we see that you're wearing bunny ears and lipstick as eyebrows. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh we're all in the Looney Tunes bin right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah, yeah. I'm just as crazy as you because we're both here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Sam the Eagle thinks he's normal. Yeah Yeah, he's not he's a muppet. Nope. He is not real. Yep, like that niece. Oh That's the biggest conspiracy There's no niece there was never a niece. Yeah, so the rest of the show is somewhat uninspired. Yeah, but After Alex gets off air he can go back to his old studio. Oh my gets to go back to info wars I just where he's let's just run it back. I feel like everything we've done over the past year has been running something back
Starting point is 01:06:16 Yep, and that's exactly what happens when he gets back into his old studio Well, here we are back at the info war studios. I thought it was bought by the onion. I into his old studio. It turns out people are really interested to find out what's going on. So let it sink in folks that we're back at it in full wars. So Alex is carrying a sink. You know, he's trying to run back that Elon Musk meme when he bought Twitter. Yep. It's just no escape. There's just no escape.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I felt so embarrassed for him When I saw that I was just like this is the dorkiest shit I could imagine Yeah, like there is a picture of Alex Jones. That is I am wearing a goddamn Revolutionary war hat with a musket and I'm coming back into my studio at you motherfuckers I'm going to put up barbed wire and fuck you I built this I am I am Serious, I mean this and I kind of I don't like that guy sure, but I get it Yeah, and I that guy's real. Yeah, and that guy at least I don't know I'm gonna be worried about him, but I'm gonna respect where he's coming from he's coming from a real place
Starting point is 01:07:51 I am NOT going to respect the guy who recreates an Elon Musk troll meme when he comes back to his studio That he feels he has been wrongly evicted from in a war against the fucking devil. This is baby shit. This is so embarrassing Yep, make your own meme don't do the let this sink in if you want to be a troll Come up with your own thing. Don't rip off Elon Musk with a fuck. This is pathetic Anyway, I was very disappointed in him. That's horrible. Okay Here's a thought that I I just had. Mm-hmm. All right Okay, here's a thought that I just had. All right? If you...
Starting point is 01:08:27 You know the depictions of... Let's go with Bill and Ted's bogus journey, okay? You know how they go into their own personal hells and then there's like, ah, you know? There were other people there in those hells. And then I was like, do they know they're in his hell? Or are they in their own personal hell, being in his hell? Or are they in their own personal hell being in his hell? Or are they not real and they're just conjured as a figment of his own imagination? And then I wondered if I was a self-aware version of myself in Alex's
Starting point is 01:09:00 hell, would this be any different? Huh. You know what I'm saying? If Alex has got an awareness, let's say this is actually, we're actually relatively speaking in the year 3000. Okay. All right? Sure. And Alex has already lived this exact horrible, shameful moment a million times over, right? And only now are you and I realizing that we're actually trapped in his hell. Can we escape?
Starting point is 01:09:26 I mean we can just do whatever we can do, you know, like sure I mean Self-actualization in that moment does not grant you freedom You are still in that hell you get I mean, yeah You're in hell you can really only make the best of what you got and you didn't deserve anything. You didn't do anything No, I I guess in that hell I go on vacation I don't know yeah I think that's the plan yeah but man I just think like there's something about this that is the the limpest wettest piece of pasta yeah in terms of defiance yeah because like okay so like Socrates in The Apology, he famously was like,
Starting point is 01:10:07 hey, what my punishment should be for all this shit, you should feed me for life. Yeah. That was an act of defiance that was, you know, it's historically resonant. Sure. This, oh yeah, I've corrupted the youth by asking questions and opening their mind. Yes, I should be punished by being a hero. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I should do
Starting point is 01:10:26 yeah, that would have a lot less power if Socrates was ripping off some other dipshit who had said the same thing to the power structure Like if this act of defiance was just copying someone else, I think it would look a lot less strong. Just from Alex's sense of self, he shouldn't just play dress up. See that's the thing. It is entirely possible that Socrates did bite that off of somebody and he was just a biter. But the trick is be several thousand years in the future and only have
Starting point is 01:11:05 one account you can rely on. You can't be having like the guy, oh also the guy who said it first published my shit two weeks ago. You know? Well here's the problem with that. If Socrates did bite someone in this, it still works. Sure. No no of course in this case this Alex's gesture Only has meaning in the context of Elon did this yeah, that's true. That's the only it's referential It's pathetic on multiple levels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it can't stand the test of time even if we erase Elon's Action right because it's predicated upon such yeah Elon's action. Right, because it's predicated upon such.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Yeah. So I don't think that even if Alex were able to control the narrative and erase Elon's meme from history, I don't think it works. I think it's just pathetic across the board in a way that just really disappoints me. Yeah, no. He should go down in history as being
Starting point is 01:12:01 one of the most sycophantic people that ever existed. Yeah. Yeah. To the point where it should be defining in the character of this person. Absolutely. He is the quintessential bootlicker. He has had his empire unfairly taken away from him. He retreats to the secondary studio and he comes back to his rightful throne and he references
Starting point is 01:12:26 Elon a meme that Elon did. Yeah. In his moment of great triumph. Not like he loves to say the, you know, the John Paul Jones, I've only, I've not yet begun to fight. Sure. You know, that kind of, he needs something like that instead of a sink meme just a dork mmm yep anyway brutal yeah there's not much there's not a whole lot to really talk about with his return to the studio because it's more of the same I mean yeah because we're a self-aware existence inside of his personal hell yeah so he just accuses the trustee of crimes more sure And then he gets he gets a little bit a little bit cocky doing that like who's on air now
Starting point is 01:13:13 and stuff but There is a moment that I do think is kind of funny all right, and that is Alex He thinks Trump's gonna come save him uh-huh and use the DOJ He thinks Trump's going to come save him and use the DOJ to crush his enemies for him. And Alex justifies his belief in a disappointing way that he realizes sounds bad in the moment. So, because let me tell you, this has now been chosen to display what Trump's talking about with the government media court collusion. You think Trump isn't pissed off? You think he doesn't take it personal?
Starting point is 01:13:51 He knows I'm one of his biggest defenders. Maybe like if I have a dog, my German Shepherd protects my family, it's shoot up 10 or 15 people that tried to attack us and now I see somebody beating my dog with a baseball bat. You think I get pissed off? Yeah, I compare myself to Trump's dog. Oops I mean, I think that's just on a Hilarious. Yeah. All right. I'm Trump's dog. They're all right Now I wanna be your dog
Starting point is 01:14:26 Now I wanna be your dog! The thing that's also really funny about this is that dogs are trained. And Alex is Trump's dog. And as he is, he has deprived himself of the free will and agency that he pretends to care so much about which is deeply ironic and I think when he says yeah I'm saying I'm Trump's dog there's a part of him that recognizes that these are the things that he's implying yeah and he's probably ashamed did he not also say that the dog unfairly bit people ten or fifteen times, the dog defended the owners 10 or 15 times and is being unfairly attacked so the owners
Starting point is 01:15:08 come to its defense. Which Trump has absolutely not done up till this point when Alex has been under attack. Yeah. I don't, no, I don't like that one. I would be real disappointed with myself if I had unintentionally said that. Because that would make me think like, oh no, something's trying to escape from my brain to then become life and talk back to me. Trump has me on a leash.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Like the back part of my brain spoke out so the words would look the front part of my brain in the face. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's a bummer. I hope not to have those no So Alex talks a bit about how they have won
Starting point is 01:15:51 I guess He has a dog sure one sure we are Devastating you and nothing you can pull no false flags. Nothing will change that If the general public slips on a banana peel they're gonna blame you hmm but you know it is always you remember we told you they're not giving Trump supporters aid they're not going to Republican counties you can look at the maps in North Carolina and then we got all the documents and it wasn't one lady it was the agency and then we got videos of the agency heads in their own zoom meetings saying don't give
Starting point is 01:16:27 Christians whites or conservatives any help we used to be a gallant air and have everybody now we only help eight used to be TQ whatever does that before after saying video you want to see anything I mean that's discrimination and suffering we know you don't like us. We know you're out to get us. We know you're attacking us. And so we're done playing games And we realize when we're nice to you just makes you abuse us more like we're some Prostitute you're the pimp you break our arm or put cigarettes out on us. We thank you. No, we don't thank you We're done We're getting off the plantation
Starting point is 01:17:04 Figure it out yet? It's a global realignment. I'm just honored to be a part of it." It's crystal clear what Alex is saying, and anyone should be able to read between those lines very easily. The needs and wants of white Christian conservatives are more important than anyone else. He's a white identity adherent, and he supports the general trend internationally towards more authoritarian governments that place that identity at the core of their image of power.
Starting point is 01:17:29 It's been obvious for a long time, which is why we call him a racist and a bigot, so this isn't any kind of surprise to hear. He's basically saying, I'm pissed off because I think white Christians should be the only people with rights, and my response is, we know. We know. Yep. This is what you've been saying for a while. Yep. He's here celebrating that no false flag his enemies try to pull will derail his movement, rights, and my response is, we know. We know. This is what you've been saying for a while. He's here celebrating that no false flag his enemies try to pull will derail his movement, and if you understand the subtext there, it's kind of depressing to think about. In Infowars world things aren't really false flags. It's a buzzword and an accusation that gets thrown
Starting point is 01:18:00 around to get out of any inconvenient spot that Alex might find himself in. Anything and everything from a racist mass murderer to a global pandemic can be called a false flag, to the point where the word doesn't really mean anything anymore. There have been real false flags in the course of history, but that legacy has no connection to what Alex does and how Alex has weaponized the term. The fundamental effect that Alex has achieved with this whole calling everything a false flag is that we're closer to a reality where terrorism is a feasible strategy
Starting point is 01:18:31 for the extreme right to use. Like their actions will never impact the, it will be useful as a, like you can't derail the right wing militia movement with the OKC bombing anymore Hmm, like that's not going to happen They're going to be people like Alex and there is a large enough media presence that will deny reality a
Starting point is 01:18:57 Completely different reality has been created to insulate Extremism from its consequences and that is what Alex means when he says no false flag will work. Yep. We will not take the blame for any of the consequences of this rhetoric is what he's saying. Yeah. We've dodged, we've disconnected actor from action. Right. Right. But at least we can be relied upon for them to also be in control of the government. So I guess it's better that way, in a sense. As long as they're in control of the government, terrorism does not help them achieve their goals.
Starting point is 01:19:34 So what we should do is be grateful. That's not true, though. I think that, I think as things don't go exactly how the really angry white identity Christian conservative folks like, I think no matter who's in power, there's a secret group that's in power. And that's the group that isn't prioritizing the white Christian conservative needs. Yeah. Well, I mean, at least there are people in power who hold them accountable. So we have one last clip here. Alex just gets a little bit defensive about Mr. Onion.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Yes. He did an interview with the George Stephanopoulos and Alex goes over that interview and he just complains about it. Like, I didn't do anything to these Sandy Hook families, blah, blah, blah. And I just thought this clip was like, you're accusing these people of serious crimes. Overnight, the judge in charge of this put a hold on your purchase, raising questions about the process, raising questions about transparency in the bidding process. What do you make of that? Are you confident this is still going to go through? Yeah, look, we won the bid. We, we, pause back up 10 seconds. I mean, he looks young. Yeah, we won the bid. You won the bet. The
Starting point is 01:20:54 trustees been in the news saying, well, I decided to give it to them. And, you know, they needed extra money. So we got this plan. And then they didn't tell the real betters that in the rules, you can't do that. And then they changed the stuff stuff last minute and the judge said that wasn't a real option That's why we're back in the building. So that morning Alex talked a lot of shit got a call from a lawyer and While he was on air he changed up how he was approaching this and moderated and did this These are my beliefs. This is my opinion, but his brain doesn't have He has like a memento thing by the time he's back on air that evening. It's a new broadcast Yeah, and so he doesn't remember. I'm not supposed to be accusing everyone of all these crimes
Starting point is 01:21:40 No, it needs to be reminded conceptly. No, it's that they're not watching. He knows they're not watching so he can say whatever he wants Yeah, that's probably true and whatever Pretend lesson I was Pretending to have learned yeah, I can just go ahead and drop that pretense. Yeah that act can can fall away Yeah, too. I mean again like the idea of anything like that giving him pause is purely temporary. But that's why it needs to be constantly reminded.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Like, I mean, that just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. But nothing makes any sense. So anything that leads towards that as an outcome means that the entire process should be scrapped and started from the beginning Maybe so on a foundation that makes sense. Maybe as opposed to this bananas town, maybe the entire Institution of talk radio and all this doesn't need to be Figured out from ground. I think yes from ground from fucking yeah
Starting point is 01:22:42 But think about how funny it would be if Alex is on air on this Friday night and he gets another call from the lawyer and he's like, you know, I, uh, I do, I just want to say that these are my beliefs and he has to do that again. Every single show involves a beginning that's full of steam. Yeah. And, and then by the end of it, he's having to make apologies. That's pretty funny. All right, it's possible, let's say this, let's say they assign a team of lawyers to watch his show all day every day, and he also has to, but there have to be consequences.
Starting point is 01:23:14 The more they do it, the less valuable it becomes. Oh, are you gonna do that? Oh, you're watching now? Yeah, of course you are. You called me yesterday. Oh, surprise, are you gonna call me tomorrow? Surprise, are you gonna call me the day? Are you gonna call me the damn? But here's the oh my god. What are you gonna? Do fucking nothing right?
Starting point is 01:23:29 Except that like he clearly was responsive to this trustee's lawyer Yes, yeah, so there is something. I don't know once he finds out those don't have any teeth man. Nothing. I mean He has to be stopped by being no longer on the air mmm if you want him to not do the things that we sued him for he just can't talk on the air yeah and I don't know if there's a way to do that but there is so chase could turn off... I mean, yes! Honestly, that really could be a thing! Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Anyway, um, this is all kind of... It feels, in some ways, like treading water. Yeah. And I think that not much is going to be decided until these court things get heard and I'm out. Yeah, it's the it's the illusion of movement while still staying in the exact same place Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I guess we'll check back in whatever We'll have some episodes in the intervening time period.
Starting point is 01:24:46 But we'll be back eventually. Indeed we will. Won't be that long. And you should enjoy your vacation, my friend. Thank you. We'll be back. But until then, we have a website. Indeed we do.
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