Knowledge Fight - #997: January 8, 2025

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to hear Alex break down some dumb ideas about the California fire, "big boy talk," and how Trump and Elon are basically Bruce Wayne.

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Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. Hey everybody, welcome to A Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around, worship at the Altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, dead. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar Celine and talk a little Bit about Alex Joe. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you So what's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot is twofold. Okay one forgot to mention it But we we were recently on god-awful movies. Oh, yeah, and we've discovered a great tour of the MAGA world If I don't recommend that people go watch his show necessarily, but I think it's fun to hear us discuss Manga creator who we actually think has a

accidental depth to him. Yeah, I don't want people to watch it, but I want people to watch it so they can think about it way more than watch it. So don't watch it, but think about what you might want to think about real hard. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. So thank thank you very much. Um, and the second fold is we have a weird food thing. All right. The 2025, I like it. Four fives, five fives.

Right. I like that. Um, so I, I noticed Pringles. They have some varieties out now. They have some new varieties. I wanted to give them a test drive. Sure. So first one was a everything bagel. Okay. Trash. No, I love an everything bagel. I do too. It's one of my favorite bagels.

Doesn't translate to a Pringle. It makes sense. Yeah. How could it? I felt disgusted and I did not even finish the can. Makes sense. I'm sure some people will enjoy it but it was not for me. But I do like an everything bagel and I actually think, you know, it has an interesting flavor because of the poppy seeds and the onion and all that but yeah It doesn't work. Yeah, and the other one is a hot ones all right Los Cali Los Calientes Ah one of their hot sauces and It's pretty hot. I believe nice. Yeah, and that's not even like a crazy

Yeah, is he hot version of their their hot sauce? Yeah, that's middle of the road in terms of it. It's pretty hot chip I like it. It's not bad nice They've they've really taken over a lot of shit the hot ones. Yeah, wow did that go fast it did and I also Because I saw this can yeah, I reflected on how long it's been since I've watched one of them and how much I enjoyed it, you know, a number of years back. Ten years ago, yeah. And also how much it's like, I don't really eat that crazy spicy stuff anymore. Right, right, right.

And I, you know, obviously some things are a phase. And maybe it was a little bit. But I had some crazy hot Nashville chicken the other day and I experienced what I used to seek out and I kind of remembered it a little bit. You enjoyed it? Not really but I remembered what I enjoyed. Right, right, right.

I gotcha, I gotcha. It was worth it but it was not worth it. I remembered that it was, it's basically like a feeling of, I don't know if I can survive this. Right. Oh, okay. And that's what you were seeking out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's, it's ingesting something that is like, this might kill me or I might kill myself because this will never stop. Right. And then getting through that. Right. The alleviating of that Right, right, right is really what I enjoyed. There's so many problems. I'm dealing with this one

I know I can endure I like the flavors of a lot of spicy foods, too But it is I do realize having had that experience again. It was a little bit of like food based, right? Jump base. Yeah So anyway, cheers to the Los Calientes. Cheers to the everything bagel. What's your bright spot? My bright spot is I finished it. I posted it up on my website. Part one of my new book. Nice. Do you have a name? Yeah. It's called the institution. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's called The Institution. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And yeah, it's on my website, The Quiet Part Loud. There's a PDF and an EPUB.

All right. You can have one or the other. Not both? You have to choose one. How would you? You should force people to choose one. Well, I actually did make them two different versions. Oh.

Different endings? Well, I did the same thing. No, not like that. But I did the same thing with the quiet part loud Was that all three versions and the audiobook have small differences within them? I don't know why I just like doing weird stuff the audiobook would naturally have that sure reading it You know so that would have some even just inflection well and also a guest turn a guest star turn from you I know that I remember that I produced it, but I don't remember that I said

anything. No, there was a, there's a specific section that's in Spanish from a specific region. Uh, and you, I had you put in like Jordan is not going to try an accent on this. Completely forgot that I did that. It's now going on my real absolutely IMDb page. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go. All right. We're going to be talking about January 8th, 2025. 4455. I think here, how about we do this? You do 4455 and I'll do 55. Nah. Nah, fair enough. We'll come up with something better. Okay. But, you know, this is the day after the fires in California spread. Yeah great deal So we're gonna hear some of Alex's coverage of that. Oh, which is good. I believe you Yeah, I believe that this is the one where he turned it around

Yes, it's too close to where Joe Rogan used to live. Mm-hmm. Oh boy Obviously, you know our hearts go out to everybody who is affected by by the fires and hopefully You know, there hopefully there's recovery efforts that can go smoothly. And it is unfortunate that we have to listen to Alex be a real dick about this. What a weird turn for us. But before we get into all of this,

let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Well, that's a great idea. So first, this is the coffering for my dragon queen. Without the coffee in her hand, she'll kill all the villagers in the land. This is the coffering for my dragon queen. Without this coffee every morn, she'll eat all the babies born. This is my coffee-ering.

Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk! Thank you very much! Coffee-ering? Coffee-ering, yeah. I get what it's going for, I just don't know how to say it exactly. It's like a coffering, yeah. Coffee offering ring. I get what it's going for. I just don't know how to say it exactly. It's like a coffering. Yeah.

Coffee offering. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next, Jordan, let's nuke the seventh dimension. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. The eighth is for buckaroo bonsai.

Okay. And happy birthday, Hannah from Colorado Village Collective. Jace Face says you smell. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And we got a technicrata in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Steve. Happy 40th from Amy Chen and the dinosaurs. You are now a technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go honk your mouth and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much.

Yes, thank you very much. So we start off here on the eighth and you know the problem's the left. Obviously. The left is doing these fires and here's Alex doing his first pitch at being a dick. Oh God. All right. It is Wednesday, January 8 2025. President Trump is inaugurated in less than 12 days. And I want to be 100% clear about what's happening in California right now, with 11 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes, 42 seconds. It's not like I'm going to come on the show today and blame the government of California and the Democrats and their policies.

I feel like that's what is about to happen. We've been exposing this on my show for at least 25 years. And that and the different great reset rewilding post industrial Rio de Janeiro, UN 1992 treaty that is doing this all over the Western world by direct policies the the people of the world. Including now in Europe. Got rid of thousands of years. Of human. Understanding we're even in ancient cultures, the Romans,

the ancient goals and what's France today, the Germans, people in China did this. Africans do it around their villages. You cut the brush back for a long way around your village, around your town, you build fire breaks so that when fires come, they don't jump across and burn down your town. But starting in the mid 90s, they stopped cutting the brush. And a lot more. We'll explain it all when we come back. Oh, cool. So it's possible that there could have been some advantages to having increased fire breaks in California, but most people who've looked at the current fire

don't think it would really help that much. In theory, maybe you would have been able to create more like staging area for firefighters, but like fire containment and prevention requires limiting a fire's ability to spread by controlling for one of the important fire variables. Cutting fire breaks is a strategy that's aimed at minimizing the amount of fuel a fire has, which will make it less able to expand in a given direction. If you have a big fire and it encounters a complete wall of things that can't burn, it will eventually run out of fuel, and that's one good approach for fire prevention. In the case of the California fires though, this really isn't a great strategy because

the fires are spread less by an abundance of fuel and more by the wind. In order to have effective fire breaks around residential areas, you'd need to cut like a mile of vegetation around them, and it just isn't something that's environmentally responsible. Winds were like 80 miles an hour while the fire was initially spreading, so like no matter the size of the fire break you cut, embers could easily jump them and spawn new fires. There are variables to take into account about how we can be better prepared for the next fire, but this just isn't an angle that makes sense to take. This is a tragedy and Alex is doing what he always does, which is exploit that tragedy for profit.

But actually, I think like the first volley here isn't that bad. I mean, this is kind of just I think the first volley here isn't that bad. This is kind of just standard-y Alex-y dumb shit. Sure, sure. What we need to do is we need to... He's mad that everyone's mad at Trump for saying we need to rake the forests a number of years ago. That's what's more important. It's that people are mad at Trump, not that the fucking city's on fire. That's what Alex is exemplifying.

If only they had a Republican government. Some parts of California are. Yeah. I don't know what you want. I don't know what you want out of this other than to say like, I think if you're LA, you're not worried about political party and you're just looking at the past 40 years of people in charge and you're going, there are things we could have done better.

Well, I think you're probably also looking around and seeing a bunch of people who need your help and you need their help. And, you know, I think probably a lot of that, what about fire breaks is probably not as important. Not helpful right now. But also I think that Alex is what he's trying to do here is that he's trying to create a dichotomy and use you know these these fires as an illustration of the alternative to Trump. Sure.

You can either choose Trump or this. Right. Everything is going to be on fire. We have two choices globalist civilization. This is as a civilization. We can have what Trump calls the dawn of America's golden age. Or we can have the globalist post

industrial. Civilizational collapse by design. Where civilization as you know, it is over by 2030 and then the people that orchestrated cutting off the food, the energy, the fertilizer, the infrastructure point at the disaster and say, see global warming caused all this. Global warming is going to cause these new viruses to come and kill you. And then they cook the viruses up in labs and Oh, the virus caused 80 something million extra people the last five years to starve to death. No, the lockdowns from the virus did it on record. So when they get up there and tell you the end of the world, as you know, it is 2030 and that it's because of manmade

climate change, then you read deeper into their own documents. The UN the W F Club of Rome, the CFR, all of them. They say they are cutting off. The industrial system. To carry the population of 8.5 billion people. And then they intend to use the crises. Because% of somebody's

income. It's spent on Food. And energy. When you hit that point, you start getting high crime civil unrest. You push up to 60% You get revolution and war. You push up to 60% You and energy, when you hit that point, you start getting high crime civil unrest. You push up to 60%, you get revolution and war. You push it up to 80%, cannibalism, total collapse. Oh man.

Wow. I don't know if you can tell just by the way he's talking and the rhythm of his speech, but Alex is just making all that up. Yeah, that has to be. I don't even know what that means, honestly. These are his numbers he's pulling out of his ass because he wants to scare the audience and present a reality where you have to support everything Trump does or risk getting eaten by cannibals.

Interestingly, according to the USDA, American homes spend 11.2% of their income on food in 2023, which was unchanged from 2022 and actually significantly down from about 15% in the 80s. A recent report by the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy found that, quote, on average, low-income households spend 17.8% of their income on energy bills and transportation fuel, more than three times the national average. So if we take that 11.2% of income spent on food and add the highest energy cost of 17.8% Which is three times the national average. You end up with 29%

That's still high and I'm not trying to say that there's no problem there But even using these as average numbers were pretty far from the territory that Alex is describing Sure, so he's saying that 50% you get civil unrest and high crime But he's trying to present a world where there's massive amounts of crime, cities are burning constantly, not from wildfires, but from arson and Antifa. So like, I don't understand. I think what I find fascinating about this is that in his terms, it would make more sense for all of us to pitch in to make sure people who have to spend more

money on food and energy don't have to spend as much money on food and energy so they don't eat us. I guess, and that's a logical extension of what he's saying. I mean it makes sense. He's going for socialism by fear of cannibalism, I believe is what's happening here. Hey, if so, I'm on board. That's what it takes. Whatever it takes to get you there, man.

So Alex talks a little bit about cloward and piven. Sure. Not Jeremy. I know. Not Jeremy cloward. Oh. Anyway, it has something to do with the fire. What is cloward and piven?

Well it's not the first time governments did this, but it put it into a cosmology and a the and crank it up so high to make people dependent, and within a generation will collapse America and blame capitalism and on its ashes bring in total communism. Sure. And what did Ezekiel Emanuel say on Fox News 10 years ago? And others, he said, oh, Obamacare was always meant to triple prices and collapse the old system and bring in a government system. But it'll still be run by big corporations that make the profit. They just socialize the profit for themselves and privatize the debt to you.

So when you see the fires all over the Western world, Lahaina years ago in Maui, the perfect administrative, economic, industrial sabotage. This is murder. This is destruction. This is scorched earth. This is siege by design. So Cloward and Piven were two academics who put forth a theory in the 1960s. Their basic point was that the way that the current welfare state was designed was inherently meant to not address the problem of poverty but to put a band-aid on it. There are

tons of social safety net type programs that people are eligible for but the state actively dissuades them from knowing that they're eligible for them and tries to make them reluctant to sign up for these programs. They theorize that if massive welfare drives were organized then people who were eligible for public assistance would be more likely to sign up for the help that they needed. In the process, it would create a burden that the existing welfare system could not handle because the idea that it's actually meant to handle that is an illusion. That's an illusion that we understand and can maintain because the system hasn't been crushed by people getting the aid that they're eligible for.

It works until you go look for it. Yes. By having people sign up for the assistance they were eligible for but the state could not provide, the welfare system would collapse. And from that collapse would come the need to redesign what we consider welfare. The hope was that the pressure that this would apply would revolutionize how we dealt with poverty and ideally would bring about some form of universal guaranteed income. This didn't happen, but because it's an attack on the existing welfare state that's rooted

in a desire to actually help and provide more assistance to the poor, it's the scariest thing for people on Alex's side of things. Attacks on social welfare programs are supposed to be about hurting the poor and consolidating wealth among the powerful, not improving the lives of people in a desperate situation. So when there are people who are attacking the system from the other side, they're even worse than the system. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. And I don't know what it has to do with the fires or anything, but I... I was wondering about that particular element of it, and I was wondering if it was because

of Cloward and Piven that we got the 80% cannibal part. I think that 80% of people are eligible to be cannibals. I think that's a good point. Do you want to have a cannibalism drive? I think we should, because that'll get the welfare state off of our backs. When there are fewer people to put a drain on it, we've eaten them. Right. Yeah. So at California, the issue that Alex has identified is that they didn't have these

fire breaks. Right. But Texas does. Oh, God. Texas totally does. Oh, God. I live in an area that has these big fire breaks put in by the fire department, by the county, because I live on the edge of the city, and it's nothing but neighborhoods there's the you never see big crowds on the green belt there on Barton

Creek. We get closer to the town. You'll see thousands of people walking around. It's beautiful. But where I live, there's just nobody there. You might see one person every few months when I go walk down there almost every day.

Beautiful Creek Cliffs Hills, but there's huge. 50 ft wide roads. All the people walking around the city. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful. It's just beautiful way down it all the way out through the county. And it's got fire department little signs in the middle of the neighborhood where they come in and fire hydrants. Because

if there's ever a big wildfire and it's coming through, they've got to stop it there. It's a fire break. Now. Texas hadn't been completely taken over by the globalist. But there have been city council proposals to cut the funding

and for the county and the city and to stop. Maintaining fire breaks, which are not expensive to do compared to the cost of the fires So when we get dry weather we get high winds and the fires come in they rarely destroy houses Because they run into fire breaks fire mitigation so The un proposed in the 70s they became a treaty in 1992 rio de gionero earth summit

agenda 20. What? Too late. And it said, we are not going to touch and it's got thousands of things they're gonna do, but amongst it, we're gonna destroy the dams, we're gonna deny farmers water, and we're not going to Mar the earth with fire mitigation the word fire appears three times in the agenda 21 report and at no time Do they say they not they don't want to mar the world with fire mitigation What are you gonna do actually even say like make more dams than you know that destroy the dams? Alex is just making all this up and then pointing to the prop that he's

created that's labeled Agenda 21. He does this when he name drops Cloward and Piven or the Club of Rome. There's no actual information being conveyed here and he's not even really citing a source. It's more deflection than a citation at all. And also Texas has had plenty of fires. Alex just ignores them in order to maintain this illusion. Last year there was the Smokehouse Creek fire which burned over 850,000 acres in 48 hours

and would go on to spread to Oklahoma and over 1 million total acres of coverage, killing two people. That was the largest wildfire in Texas history, but I guess it probably only happened because Beto O'Rourke did fine at the polls. This is bullshit. There are, you know, like you can have, you can have all kinds of good preparation and things can still go bad. You can do decent preparation and still have missed some points.

You can have mismanagement and have a complex situation. It doesn't have to be like this. We're a giant ball of rock orbiting fire orbiting a black hole. What the fuck is... Anything could happen. I get that. I don't understand how you can both be like, ah, the globalists are our number one enemy. Also, city councils are an issue.

An issue. They're an issue. Like you can't have... I do feel like you can have both. The city council doesn't want to maintain the fire breaks because of the devil. What's the point of Cloward and Pivot that if we've got city councils already on the job? Right. I don't know. Weird.

Also, how does the devil play into this? Second, weren't we supposed to be having a catastrophic contagion? Wasn't that where we were? Well. Weren't there aliens? Nah. What's happening? that different thing is happening now so we're exploiting that people were their attention is over on something else so you're trying to

hijack that shit I mean if you wanted to argue that the devil created city councils that's a conversation we can have but beyond that I don't know what to tell you you know what the devil says is think globally act locally I think that's right yeah it, it's in the details. Yeah Yeah, the devil is mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm deviled eggs No, that was nothing so There's a conspiracy here sure and it would have to be it has to do with insurance companies, okay, but it's not what you think

All the major insurance companies Started pulling almost everybody's insurance in the key areas. And people are now noticing, wait, it's even the areas of all the dozens of fires in different parts of LA in the last 48 hours. It's like key specific areas that just so happen. Don't do this. Had the fires. Now, I'm not saying the Democrats went around

and set all the fires though back when they were trying to kick Trump out of office four years ago Antifa got arrested all over the country all over Canada lighting fires it would barely make the national news and when it only made local news people would try to post it on Facebook or X when it was Twitter and they would they'd be blocked. They arrested hundreds of leftist setting fires all over the country. Sorry. To create a sense of doom, a sense of fear came out that Hollywood ordered all the people that were getting money through their through their ESG program, their corporate credit score. We want despair. We want depression. We want demoralization. So people will then associate that with Trump.

This is all bullshit, but it would be really fun for Alex to try to substantiate some of these claims. Like, I want to see the paper trail of these Hollywood payments that were given out to like thousands of leftists to start fires to create bad vibes for Trump. It's sad. Jesus Christ. There's a certain kind of pathetic that Alex embodies where every event that happens just has to be filtered through this prism.

This can't just be a huge tragic fire. He needs to use it as fuel for his own fire, which is all about how everything is an attack on Trump and by proxy himself. I was curious about this insurance conspiracy that Alex was talking about, and it turns out that Alex is just repeating something that his mortal enemy Kamala Harris said recently. Quote, many insurance companies have canceled insurance for a lot of the families who have been affected and will be affected, which is only going to delay or place an added burden on their ability to recover. It's so weird that he's not crediting her. It feels like his audience

would find that context interesting. Yeah. Alex is playing these games because the angle that he wants the audience to come away with is that these fires were set on purpose as part of an elaborate globalist plot. The idea that insurance companies canceled policies in the affected areas two months ago is clearly meant to be evidence of premeditation, and it would only tarnish Alex's ability to implant these ideas in the audience's head if he brought Harris into the conversation, so it doesn't work for the conspiracy. Yeah.

What happened here is not that insurance companies have canceled all these policies in advance of the fires that they're planning to set. It's that insurance companies are businesses that seek to maximize profits. It's been an existing problem that homeowners insurance in California is super expensive for people to get because a lot of companies can't profit off it. California is a state with some decent consumer protection regulations, so the insurance companies are limited in what rates they can charge. And given that the risk is fairly high in California with the incidences of fires and earthquakes, insurance companies know that insuring homes in the state has the potential

to lose them a lot of money. So State Farm announced last March that they wouldn't renew approximately 72,000 existing policies in California and stop selling new homeowners insurance policies in the state. It was not profitable for them as a business, so they chose not to do it. Now there's been a big fire and the ability to exploit this decision is there, so you see people like Alex weaving a conspiracy out of it. But if you'd ask them a couple months ago when this wasn't as hot a topic, why would they have any problem with State Farm choosing to do this?

Or with any insurance company deciding where they want to do business and where they feel they can't make a profit doing that? Are insurance companies supposed to be benevolent, self-sacrificing entities that exist outside of a profit doing that. Are insurance companies supposed to be benevolent, self-sacrificing entities that exist outside of a profit motive? Definitely not to Alex. Absent a giant fire to exploit emotionally, Alex would strongly defend an insurance company's right to do business how they want. In California, it's illegal for them to cancel a policy while it's active for no reason, but what authority should force an insurance company to reenter existing

policies or enter new ones that they don't want to. Alex's ideology hits a brick wall here because he has no answer for this. Insurance companies abandoning people when they can, if it looks costly to provide the actual product they sell is the free market that he supports. This is bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's okay. We've gone down this road before. It's already been tried whenever you had to pay a fire department if your house was on fire to put it out. And they wouldn't put it out because you didn't pay them, but they would hang out next door in

case the fire spread. That's not a functional way of doing things. And second, this whole thing is getting to Spanish Inquisition levels of like, oh, are you saying something that's reasonable? You're probably blessing God. We're going to have to kill you. No, for sure. Hey, this sounds reasonable. It's an attack on Trump.

Like well, okay. That's it. And it's absolutely ludicrous to imagine Alex containing these positions. I understand that it is really, really monstrous right now to defend the actions of these insurance companies canceling these policies because people who are affected by it maybe now don't have insurance and their house burned down. It's monstrous to defend that. But you must if you are Alex. That is the problem with it. Because the belief itself is monstrous.

It was before the fires and it still is. No, well, it's easier though whenever you don't, it's like insurance. It always works until you need it. Right. Yeah. And insurance companies not providing works until you need it. Right. Yeah. And insurance companies not providing it when you need it, but taking your money when you don't. Seems like it's almost a scam. It kind of counteracts what it's supposed to be. And moments like this really make that clear.

And Alex doesn't have a problem until it looks bad. Yeah. So, fuck him. Their position is like, you know, insurance is a scam, except for until it looks bad. Yeah, I mean they're their position is like you know Insurance is a scam except for sometimes. It's not mmm, so I guess that's I guess that works great Yeah, so at this point Alex seemed to be hitting like just as like the check marks Yeah, there's a list of like yep people you get a demonize these people already talked about the leftist share But now what about people who are experiencing homelessness? What about them? It's their fault.

Why did the insurance companies know? Well, they know high winds are coming. All this brush has grown up. There's walking dead 70,000 homeless that love to set fires. A large percentage of them a large minority of them. So they're out running around enjoying themselves. Those some of those psych so they're out running around enjoying themselves. Some of those psychotic, drugged out homeless have the same spirit as the globalist. They're just the non-player character level of it, zombieing around on the ground. But up above, the globalists get all the disaster money, all the control.

Yeah, man. So that's fucked up. You just got a bunch of unhoused people who like to run around and set fires. I mean, I don't even know where to start. No. No. You start and end with fuck you.

Yep, yep, yep. So we get down the checklist even further, and now what about calling people DEI hires? Great! How about that? How about it? So you have the LA mayor cutting 17 plus million dollars last year out of the funding for the fire department, cutting hundreds of millions out of other fire mitigation. And they literally spent it on DEI hires and they have the new fire chief that came in last year going, I'm a lesbian and my main mission is

DEI. We have the clip. And they're not read into this. They believe that their main job is being politically correct. They don't need to know how to put out a fire. They don't need to have any responsibility when they get asked on the news. Hey, why? Why is the mayor in Africa on a junket? Why? Why aren't you releasing the water from the reservoir?" And the woman says, that's not my job. So you put a bunch of inept people in at the grassroots that don't know what's going on. So the fire chief in Los Angeles is a woman named Kristen Crowley, who is a lesbian. So this has naturally become a point of attack for the folks on the right who are definitely

not primarily motivated by their deep-seated bigotries. When Crowley said that the whole water thing wasn't her job, she's right. That is a higher up the ladder state government issue that isn't part of her job. As she put it, quote, when a firefighter comes to a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water. Crowley is the first fire chief in LA who's a member of the LGBTQ community and the first female to hold that position as well. She'd been a firefighter for 22 years when she was appointed in 2022, and a part of the

backdrop of what was going on at the time was that the previous chief, Ralph Torazas, had recently gotten into some trouble about allegations that he'd allowed a, quote, pervasive racist and sexist culture to exist within the LA Fire Department. Great. The president of the Los Angeles Women in the Fire Service organization, Chris Larson, sent the mayor a letter saying, quote, Fire Chief Ralph Teresas has ignored, downplayed, denied, or actively obstructed any investigation into the cultural problems within the LAFD. There were multiple reports of sexual assault and rape occurring

at firehouses and many felt that these reports were not handled seriously enough. In October 2021, the LAist released an investigation that found that there was endemic hazing and harassment that were directed at female firefighters in the department and that the institution did not seem all that interested in addressing it. The accounts they uncovered, along with the push from the LA women in the fire service group led to a little bit of public pressure to stop ignoring this shit. So Terrazas retired and Crowley was elevated to this position. When she came into the role, she spoke about a lot of improvements she'd like to make to the department, including but not limited to addressing this culture of harassment that women and minority recruits had to endure.

Naturally, the right wing, who are definitely not just fundamentally bigots, took this as an attack on white men. And now Alex doesn't even consider her a person, but DEI hire. So this just feels like a right wing grievance checklist that we've gone down. We've got the fire breaks storyline. We've got the Clared and Piven. We've got the Agenda 21. We've got the attacking the left, attacking homeless people, attacking LGBTQ people having a job. Great.

And I just, I think like this feels dull. I mean, if you recall, I said we wouldn't make it out of the witch era. Yeah. I think and how about this maybe we go back we go further back all right how about we try some virgins okay we just have some vessel virgins all right and then when shit like this happens they got to go that way we don't scapegoat poor people and and the disenfranchised, you know We're prepared for this scenario. This is we don't have to exploit people This is dumb and bad, but also I think to advance for Alex. I think you're right, too

Goddamn, we're not making it out of the trees, man But I also just I feel like this is dull in a way that's like I don't feel energy Here like I don't feel passion behind what Alex is saying. Like, I think that he's, I don't know. Is this his version of being like- Respectable? Yes, exactly. Yeah, a respectable newsman?

This is his version of a compassionate version of Alex not like, I'm not gonna go too hard screaming about how bad these people are. There's an emergency. There's a problem that I kind of feel from some of this like you know he's gotten he's lost a bit of weight he's trying to hang out around like the America first conference great he's friends with Tucker I think that there's a feeling of like, I'm pretty fucking close to power. Like, the problem is me.

The problem is the way that I blow up, the problem is the thing that makes me entertaining and valuable as a commodity. I need to take it down and be more serious thus gaining- Because maybe then I can actually become the next Rush Limbaugh as opposed to being Alex Jones for the rest of my fucking life I can't imagine feeling that I have a little bit of that. I can't imagine the possibility of that level of pivot Hmm, I just can't mmm Twice

Try it twice didn't work the first time now. We got it the second time. I don't think it worked either Twice didn't work the first time now. We got it the second time. I don't think it worked either So I think that there is a respectability mask that he's trying to put on a little sure By not blowing up and not being as entertaining and just kind of being like and we're going through the motions of Ray Wing grievance Yeah, and I think that's stupid because for one you will never escape this box Alex Yeah, you're destined to die in this box. You built it. And good! Yeah. Because you get to do stuff like this. The Fabian socialist H.G. Wells was the head of their society

back in the earlier 20th century, first parts of that. He wrote more nonfiction books than fiction. And he said, I put in my fiction books allegories of what's really happening. the protegees because they had their nebula awards and all the rest of it where they would push members of their futurist transhumanist cult To make sure they were the top science fiction writers Really that they could get their ideas into the culture That's entertainment to pre-program people with predictive programming is what it's called Hmm, and if you read the foundation series of Isaac Asimov

Oh god, and they've made a TV show on Netflix, I watched a little bit of it, but it was just too woke version of it, so I just couldn't watch more than a few episodes. Too woke. And too woke. In it, they've done the math with their supercomputers in the 20th century. the civilization and short circuit it because in their permutations then it allows civilization to survive in the long run but if they don't derail it upfront then it will race forward go go intergalactic, but then collapse.

Interstellar intergalactic. Now, then you go read another member of their cult, Arthur C. Clarke's books. It's all the same stuff. Yeah. Yeah, read some more of that shit. I mean... So I've tried to figure out another way to say this. I really sat and thought about it because I don't want it to be this simple,

but these are the thoughts of a complete idiot. This is outrageous. If you follow out his thought, then you have H.G. Wells secretly revealing the globalist plans through his sci-fi books. And then in order to make sure that the culture is heavily influenced by this globalist ideology, he starts the Hugo Awards, or it was the Nebula Awards.

So you can hand pick the top people in the sci-fi world. Isaac Asimov's Foundation series gives away the globalist plans, but the TV version was too woke for Alex to watch. Wild. The Nebula Awards were started in 1966. Yep! And were run by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Association, which wasn't founded by H.G. Wells.

No! Partially because he died in 1946. Yep, I knew that. Alex might be confusing the Nebula Awards and the Hugo Award, but that one didn't start until 1953 and also had nothing to do with H.G. Wells. I'm pretty convinced Alex has these mixed up because Foundation didn't win a Nebula, but the original trilogy won Best All Time Series in 1966 at the Hugo Awards. The first Nebula Award for best novel went to Dune.

Sounds right. Yeah, which is great for Alex, but what about the other winners? Like in 1966, or 67 and 68, excuse me, Samuel Delaney won best novel. I've never heard Alex talk about any of his shit. You've never heard of Sammy Delaney? Not from Alex.

He's Zany Delaney. Two years in a row won the Nebula. I mean,bula. He must have been a huge part of the cult. He's probably a big part. Yeah. Asimov wouldn't win one until 1973 and it wasn't for Foundation. No. So yeah, I don't know. This is an idiot.

Asimov's main problem was having written too many goddamn books. And too woke. Well, I will say this. Asimov's problem, not wokeness. What? Current Foundation, again, also not wokeness. Too woke for Alex? Different reasons.

But yeah, and also that's not the plot of Foundation at all. But also, when Foundation won best... All time series. Yeah, in 1966. You know who got snubbed who J.R.R. Tolkien oh that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah I was mom I remember reading something where he said he was really really surprised by that because he expected so many other yeah yeah yeah rice burrows stormed the stage and had a

yay moment oh we oh did he? Yeah. Okay, all right. Like all respect to Asimov, but Tolkien had the greatest series of all time. Greatest series of all time. Greatest series of all time, Goddamn Hobbits. What are you gonna do with these fall of Rome allegories? Fuck you.

So this is fun. And Alex just trying to defend why he thinks reading sci-fi books as a kid Counts as research. Yeah, and that's cute But in the same way that like it just feels dull him talking about the fire stuff Yeah, it feels empty for him to deliver this in a non crazy cryptic way. Yeah, I deliver this in a non-crazy cryptic way. Yeah. I, what I think is so weird is like he has an almost, I don't know if it's an accidental or if it's like a,

there's no way for me to have a coherent position at all, but L. Ron Hubbard is not brought up. And it's like that man threw so many fucking words at sci-fi that you, how can you not include him as a guy who like he wasn't an influence a little bit of an outsider to some of those awards he was an outsider in the same way that you like slam your shoulder through a door and everybody's like please get out of here and you're like i'm elrond hubbard yeah but also like I mean there's the insanity of that. Yeah, but then there's also like there's a like a great diversity of

Sort of ideologies that are espoused by people who are in sci-fi sure, you know, you have people like an HG Wells You know a great diversity Philip K Dick sure, you know, like what's his position? Where is it? Where is he coming from on a political spectrum? Sure, what are you talking about? I where he's that where's he coming from on a political spectrum sure What are you talking about? I don't know. Yeah, people like Frank Herbert Starship troopers guy. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't scratch any of them too hard No, you wouldn't like what you'd find some of them are more authoritarian

Sure, no, there's definitely gradients. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the diversity. Not so much the women were in a lab. So Alex, I just think he sounds better when he's saying like, sci-fi movies are real when he's drunk. And I think that when you're sober and kind of talking like a normal person trying to pitch this, it becomes too clear

that you're an idiot. Yeah. It's not fun, idiot. There should be, there should almost be like a, hey, this is the aside where bong rip, let's go. Right. Like him on Rogan talking about this shit while he's drunk and like, that's fun. 100%.

This isn't. No. But he insists on going a lot. Gotta keep going. Then you go read another member of their cult, Arthur C. Clarke's books, and it's all the same stuff. We gotta have a world government, we gotta kill everybody, we can't have free market competition,

it'll create too many competing technological bases, and those technological bases will then war with each other in the future, and so we have to have a total tyranny. We have to have a technological bases and those technological bases will then war with each other in the future. And so we have to have a total tyranny to get

rid of most people and create kind of a. Hunger games. World where you have very small, compact, high tech city states and everybody else that's allowed to live in small numbers are agrarian and basically kept artificially like Amish and then we're seeing those of us that are allowed to survive as a nature preserve so you have the Elysium fields of the demigod no god elites who then will transcend to an Olympian level of godhood sure once they achieve immortality through technology.

This is their official plan. Official? And they use Greek mythology as the allegory, as the model. Sounds true. And then they will leave a few of us as wild humans and then just like in the Greek legends, they'll land in their ship or whatever and we'll think they're zeus and they'll come out in a white outfit and have sex With our women and do whatever they want. This is their plan

You go. Wow, that's greek. That's clash of the titans. Yeah. Yeah and see it was uh Yeah, it was They made me it was like a lesion you know all of it Recently like 10 years ago with matt damon Wow all of it. Recently, like 10 years ago, with Matt Damon. Wow. I think you listen to our live episode. came up with all this plan. The depopulation all of it 2,300

years ago. So they're following his plan. What? And I'm saying Musk is saying Trump is saying we need to abandon that plan yeah that's all Elon Musk and Trump and Alex Jones are saying is don't don't follow play dough I I you know what I like I like having it boiled down into those terms I like that that's That's very simple. I can engage with that. Elon's plan is let's not follow Plato. Agreed. I guess we are in agreement. Now what? What's our next step forward is my question. I don't think we're going to agree with Elon on that one. I have a strong doubt. I just think that this is, these are the thoughts of a lunatic. No. Okay. And when they're being presented kind of calmly,

it just sucks. There's a secret society that invented Plato, created his plan, and has slowly pulled it out from blankety blank, let's not worry about it. Use Greek mythology as an overlay. We've already used that with Plato. Now we've got Elysium great movie with Matt Damon done and done I don't understand how you don't understand. Yeah, I do understand though. That's the problem. I think

That is the problem I think that is very much the problem. Yeah, I do not hate you because I do not understand sir I hate you twice as much because I do well the issue is that like when he's doing his like because I do. Well, the issue is that like when he's doing his like, uh, how do I tell you the big enchilada and that kind of stuff, it's like, ah, this guy has access to secret information that he's not telling me. Right. But when he actually just like has these sentences and lays out like this is what they're playing,

they're going to use Greek mythology. Yeah. It's like, okay, you're an idiot. You're dumb as opposed to someone who's withholding some kind of, some sort of mysterious wisdom that is maybe too much for my brain. Right. And you could also always be like, well, you know, he was shit faced. If he wasn't shit faced, he might be able to present it more rationally, but he wouldn't

do it because he was rational. So you'll never get the imaginary version that makes sense. You'll only get the drunken version that's enjoyable to listen to. Yeah. And I recognize that this is a little bit of a be careful what you wish for kind of thing because I did constantly say that Alex needs to stop drinking so much. And now we have what appears to be a sober Alex and it sucks. Yeah. It appears to be a sober Alex and it sucks. Yeah, I mean, listen, that is far from my first transition from a fun drunk to a sad sober.

Yeah. But whatcha gonna do? It's better for you. So look. Yeah. The globalist plans. Yeah. Plato's plans. Oh my god, don't say it's all Plato's plans. That's insane!

Well, you wouldn't defend that. Okay, fair enough. It just felt good at the moment. It did feel good, yeah. So they've been stopped. The globalist plans are done, and now it's time what to take over space all right If you expose that evil project Then they'll never be able to execute it because they've got to be operating in secret imposing as the Saviors sounds true during each successive intensification of the strangulation and

We've achieved that where they'll never get away with it now. So they need to stop, be honest about it all. We got to educate the public, come up with a new plan that is through free will and through adoption by the general public because it's the best plan. And we've got to colonize space immediately.

We got to be honest about the super technologies and we've got to just move forward. And that's what my mission is here. And that's why I'm listened to by the bad guys and the good guys at the highest levels is because this is not a child's program here. Okay. This is for big boys. Plato's plan. And I don't say that to our main audience for great people. I say it to the left-wing people and the crazy racist right-wing people and all of you folks, we're all going to kill each other if this doesn't stop. There's this big boy talk, we need to colonize space. I think that, you know, obviously I only have an undergraduate degree, I only have a bachelor's,

but I know that when I was in college, I never would have respected a professor who told me it was big boy talk. I never would have taken that seriously. I would have been like, you're overcompensating. This is kind of inappropriate for context. So when I hear Alex say say that I just really feel like It's not big boy talk When you say it's big boy talk it can't be mmm. Yeah, no, it's little boy talk I have heard big boy talk out of people who do science and I can't understand a word of it None at all none at all. They just oh, we're at the Large Hadron Collider It's 99.9% speed of light. Cool. Done. And then if they get into big boy talk, I'm out.

This is like really defensive little boy talk. Yes. Is what it is. Yeah, it's somebody who wishes that they thought that 99% light speed was the big boy talk. It's little boy sci-fi talk. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun. I guess.

I don't think it is. No, it's No, I prefer big boy talk that I can't understand There's at least something fun in that where I'm like, oh, it's like listening to a foreign language. I understood that word. That's a cognate. Yeah Yeah, so anyway, Alex just wants us to not kill each other Because if not, we will end up going the way of Plato's Atlantis. Oh my god. The Carnegie Endowment after World War I... That's supposed to be real. ...first put out their internal report in late 1920.

The report began public by the mid-20s. And they said, we can't have another war like World War I. We've got to come up with a plan to end all war. And the Carnegie Endowment went out to a bunch of top scientists for a few years and they came back and said, you have to end the human condition as it is. You have to end men and women. You have to end men being competitive. You have to end competition because you'll always get different power groups and structures that will be basically on par with each other in competition because they'll rise to a

level and then just like two bulls will want to fight for over who gets to mate with the cow, it goes to basic biology, we will continue to have wars because that's the final extension of competition. And so we have to go ahead and make men feminine and make women useless and just destroy society and go ahead and call back most of the population, bare minimum or civilization will get out of control and we'll have an Atlantean type situation where the technology gets distributed and then we blow each other up. And so that but see then they didn't even follow that plan. So it's a- Why? What?

You can't just say that. I'm gonna get into all the fires, all the latest, all the angles- That's what- I'm gonna prove everything. So much other huge news today. Trump's incredible. Golden age of America, which means

the golden age of the world. It's that you've got to reach for the stars and have optimism and you'll do it. Or we all just kill each other. Okay. And the globalist that they can control that and have us low level kill each other and collapse and that that won't suck them in not going to work. So we're going to go to break. Start the next hour but I thought it was important today just to explain how things really work.

I've got a lot more to say but I want to go through the technicals coming up next hour. Please remember today is the last day for everybody our great sponsor the Alex Jones store.com all the incredible supplements all the greatest Patriot year that every time you buy a product is low cost is $9 or as you know high cost for three bottles of ultimate CMOS 50 bucks or whatever. You get entered 10 times in the sweepstakes for the incredible off road turbo diesel Ford trimmer.

Another truck to give raffle in a truck. That... Because things are good. That was... That clip feels similar to being hit by said truck. That was very... I mean, I went through the gamut there of all different types of anger. No other feelings. Just different types of fury. Yeah. Yeah. No, no other feelings. Just different types of fury. Yeah. Yeah. The UN, the UN and the globalists and all them

put out this report, the competition must end in order to not make Atlantis happen. Obviously. Or maybe that was some sci-fi shit that I read. Could be. And they were giving away a truck. There we go. Nothing makes me angry about all of that.

Put all that together in a row, no problems there. What a fucking asshole. Contextually, that's worse. So worse. So Alex comes back, and as promised, he gets back to the fires. Great. And he's bringing Cloward and Piven back into it. Now that I've heard that, I trust that he's going to treat this with the same level of

respect it deserves. Quite a bit. Yeah. It's all cloured and pivoted. It's all done by design. And Trump released a statement. Governor Gavin Newsom refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water from excess rain and snowmelt from

the north to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way. the California. He wanted to protect essentially work less fish called a smelt. That's not even indigenous. I should add. By giving it less water. It didn't work. Of course, they weren't protecting the fish. It

was the excuse but didn't care about the people of California. Now the ultimate price is being paid. I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to flow into California. He is to blame for this on top of it all. No water from fire hydrants, not fighting, not firefighting planes, a true disaster. Yeah, people ask, I have the newscast, why aren't there firefighter planes they have all over the west? And they said, oh, Biden's in town,

the airspace is closed. Only commercial aircraft are allowed to fly, not emergency aircraft of the government. And so the reporters had to get on a plane flying out of California to even get the footage we have. They have an administrative list of a few hundred things you've got to do to make sure it's this bad. And every one of them, they perfectly did. This is not incompetence. This is perfect administrative warfare. So Alex was just reading some dumb shit Trump posted on Truth Social, including an allegation

that Governor Newsom refused to sign, quote, the Water Restoration Declaration. The governor's office responded in a statement saying, quote, there's no such document as the water restoration declaration. That is pure fiction. What Trump is talking about is water being redirected from the north of the state from the Bay Delta to the south, which has had very low rainfall. Experts on the subject have been pretty clear that directing water from the north of the state to the south of the state would have no real effect on this firefighting effort.

This is all just playing politics. Biden was in LA on January 7th to commemorate the opening of a couple of monuments. So there was a restriction on the airspace around where he was. However, this didn't apply to firefighting aircraft who could still fly just as normal coordinating with air traffic control. The issue was really that flying was not always possible because there were like 80 mile an hour winds. When you have that kind of severe weather you run into two problems with air-based responses.

The first is obviously that flying conditions are less safe, but the second is that you can't really deploy air-based solutions effectively. If you drop water it's going to be blown off target from where you're trying to get it. It sucks, but in these conditions at points the aircraft option was more dangerous and less likely to be effective than just grounding the planes However at other points planes are flying around and dropping water and none of it had anything to do with Biden being in town This is all just Alex repeating bullshit to exploit the understandably strong feelings that people have around the fire and that's sad Yeah, that sad. Yeah. That sucks.

Yeah, it is like... There's this weird phenomena of being alive in 2025 where it feels like we've been through so many of these horrific events in the past 20 years, that there were extremely competent people in all kinds of positions, all over the place, who have thought this through, man. But it's also still okay to just be Alex Jones, man, like, they're a bunch of fucking idiots.

Nobody's done anything right. They're people actually trying to destroy you and it's like man, it's a Vaccine was built in a year, you know, like there's extreme competence all over the place Yeah, and if everybody had done everything exactly the way that The Alex would have wanted in response for the fire. It would have been Some leftist set the fire. Totally. There would be some other way for him to exploit things and it's not about competence. It's about bottom feeding.

And that is like the response to this is never going to be like, oh shit, these extremely competent people did a good job. Let's listen to what they have to say to not be here again. They're like, hey, thanks for your work. We're going to continue doing the same dumb to not be here again. They're like, hey, thanks for your work. We're gonna continue doing the same dumb shit we've been doing. Because clearly, Alex has a better point than, I mean, it's, ah, ah.

Yeah, it's infuriating. It is infuriating. But you know, it's not. What? The Joker. Okay. That's why the left loves the Joker. That's what they are.

They wanna burn things. They wanna blow things up. They wanna hurt civilization. Okay. Don't. Where does left come from? Well, it wasn't ever used as a political description until the french revolution Right after ours, oh fuck me and it's not phd stuff. This is this is the way it really works The illuminati sent his letters. That's a real thing. Not just your pop culture And they wanted a nine Day week they wanted to end the family and they want to destroy civilization. And then that became communism. If you look up the Jacobins and the history of communism, that's where it comes from. And the left today-

PhD level shit. ...is the Jacobin movement. And so you go watch a movie like the Joker and you go, why would he want to do all this? Well, he's a psychotic and he's miserable and he wants to make you miserable. But that's the the attitude of their minions and their operatives on top of them are the really evil people that want to destroy civilization and pose as the saviors to control it and vertically integrated like Harley Quinn so do you want the Joker that's better than Jeremy Pippen civilization which will mean we won't have one or do you want Batman if

the rich don't aristocracy. I don't. I don't. No, bless the Glee. When? They think you're stupid. And now who's the hero in their movies? The Joker's the good guy now. When? So where is an aristocracy that wants to not blow the earth up? Donald Trump? On Mars is the old style of the Renaissance, which is the new style aristocracy.

So Alex continues to fail his media literacy test, jumping from adolescent and young adult sci-fi over to comic books. He like legitimately couldn't sound stupider if he tried. The term left as well as right, as political labels do start with the French Revolution, they had to do with where people sat in the National Assembly, with the supporters of the monarchy sitting on the right and the people who are more opposed to the royals on the left Great So seating arrangements in the French National Assembly led to the creation of Jacobins and communism because they tried to make a nine-day

Week and destroy the family and you like the Joker whatever easier hero fine You love the Joker like it's it's it doesn't matter what the word that the divide exists Outside of whether or not you believe it is the left or it could what the word, the divide exists outside of whether or not you believe it is the left or, it could be the right or the left. It doesn't mean anything. It's about the divide. But it's PhD stuff.

Oh my God. To know where the term comes from. Oh my God. It's PhD stuff also to understand that the world is either the Wayne family or the Joker. These are the only things that are options. I think that maybe a more sophisticated analysis of a lot of Batman literature is to say that neither are good.

And that is a point that is driven by a lot of the content. That the Joker represents a system that is not good. And the system that the Waynes Tried to perpetuate though. Well-meaning in many ways leads to the creation of super villains. Yeah Yep, yep. Yep. Yep. I don't know if Alex thinks You know, I think one of the things that's interesting about it is I do think that there is something to be said about his sci-fi But not at all in the way that he's describing there there anything like that but the way that sci-fi always has this element of

Reducing groups to characters and so there's main characters and then there's just the people You know know? So in most sci-fi, because you're dealing with vast interstellar distances, you can't have everybody has a character, everybody has a name. Oh, sure. Yeah, so you wind up creating a system wherein there are real people who are characters, and that's who's important. So in Alex's conception, you know, we need aristocracy to grow the thing. That doesn't mean that aristocracy governs well or anything like that. What he means is that the main characters can kill as many of the poor people as they

want so long as main characters proliferate. And that's kind of the problem with sci-fi is not so much the government aspect of it, but the dehumanization aspect of it, removing people as people and only having like a venture god damn it if you read any modern sci-fi There's a fucking royal in everything sure it's infuriating But I think that there's another aspect to Alex's sci-fi stuff that I feel like we should probably touch on and explain Mm-hmm, which is that it often does mirror real-world dynamics Yeah, and that they have to. Right. Because you have to make things relatable. Sure. And science fiction by its definition involves things that

you can't relate to. Right. So in order to give the reader something that connects to something they can understand. Right. You, like a real science fiction novel should be unreadable. Yeah In glyphs that you can't If you watch Star Wars like the ship battles are ship battles They're like they're they're in an ocean not like they can move in any direction They want with limitations based on but but but but right the the speeders are in like an air They're in dogfights not like three-dimensional gravity

defying, you know, everything along these lines, you know, all of that stuff. Aliens talk to each other. Yeah, yeah. And then us. Yeah. Like, that's fine. Yeah, because, and I think that Alex misunderstands some of those things being relatable to human stuff as being like a plan.

Yeah. That's what they're trying to turn us all into as opposed to we're trying to have something. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's dumb. I think so too. But also he's a real bootlicker and you can tell that through this. This is a dangerous combination. Dumb and bootlicking and famous. That's no good. Trump and Elon Musk are Bruce Wayne's parents and shit. It's crazy. So do we want conquest-based society or renaissance-based society? Do you want golden age or do you want dark age? What do you think paid for the renaissance? Those are the two paths. Those are the two. and you have to know how the world works.

You have to be engaged to build a golden age. Don't. And then because a golden age produces so much freedom and property and innovation, you've got to not give your kids everything. You've got to have hard competition. You've got to be in shape. You've got to be in sports. You've got to be well read. You've got to be intellectual shape you've got to be in sports you've got to be well-read you've got to be intellectual you've got to have a historic understanding or you will create decadent slob children and then the parasites will come into the future generations and take over and you go back to warlords that fast and trump is the ultimate example with his kids that are amazing of having all that wealth and all that power and producing very good children Elon Musk gets it and

So I admire that Because they're prime examples of the leaders we need as examples to us. That's what we're talking about here. Do you want Batman or do you want the Joker? It really comes down to that. Do you want Batman heading up the ship or do you want the Joker? And his gang? It's that simple, people. Is it? I mean, look at...

George Soros. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Great. So I just think that this... I don't know how else to, like, really sum it up other than, like, this is disappointing. Sigh. Ha ha is disappointing. I mean he's he's rounding off some edges of himself yeah to fall in line and be sort of obsequious to Trump and Elon Musk yeah and I think that makes him so much less interesting

like I don't think that Sandy Hook and his behavior around that can kill his legacy in terms of him being this, like, you know, the next generation of Bill Cooper. Sure, sure, sure, sure. You know, I think that obviously to right thinking people and to people who care, it hurts his legacy. But it doesn't really hurt it within the conspiracy community and all that shit.

I think him doing this kind of stuff, it makes him really soft and not a renegade at all. And I think that sucks for him. I think, okay, so removing the comic book and stuff, and let's go to a different genre of movie it makes sense if you think Trump is a Morton Joe right and you're the spokesperson person because because in this situation there's like ten people who get to drink water so it's like yeah I want to be one of the guys who drink water we are not in that scenario yet yet yet but this is, no. What Alex is doing, it makes sense if

you think Trump's Hitler, right? I mean, this makes total sense if you are scared for your life or something. But not if you think he's Stalin, in which case you're, Alex, you're getting removed from the picture, buddy. You're not going to make it out of that picture alive. Yeah, it's interesting the kind of maneuver that he's trying to make. Whatever it is, it seems sad. And I don't respect it. Yeah, I was thinking the other day, I feel a bit like an Italian fisherman during Mussolini's rise just on the dock somewhere. And it's a nice day for me somehow But I'm looking over and I'm like this whole place is going to hell. I don't know what to tell you Inflations out of control. I don't know what I don't know what to do, you know, yeah, I just I

Andy's he's just boring. Yeah He's talking about how Trump's Batman and the alternative is the Joker and how we all love the Joker so much I mean, yeah, they'll just like uh Yeah, you're gonna have to put some face paint on if you want to pull this one off, right? Yeah, yeah, and you know who really embodies like Heath Ledger's Joker who? Claus Schwab, you know, yeah. Yeah. Two peas in a pod. Couldn't be more like the Joker. So Alex has been given God's blessing to take over space. Okay.

And to them, they think people like you and me are dumb because we're not predators. No, we're smart, buddy. If we tried to be predators, we'd be a lot better than you. We are good people. We build civilization, you damn snake. You are a parasite, jackass. We like to have a civilization where people are strong and healthy and good because we believe in ourselves and we believe in others and we are so dominant that we aren't

threatened by other people doing well. We want our children and our future children to live in a world with other good people they can marry and live with and have children. We believe in our species. We are the leaders. You are the enemy. We are the dreamers of dream. We are civilization. We are the inheritors of God's providence. We have been given the manifest destiny.

There's no way of knowing the heavens. You are the problem. So yeah, God has given Alex and his dipshit friends the mandate and inheritance to colonize the stars. Yep. Jesus Christ. Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah. You know that Mandate of Heaven? That one goes back a long way. Yeah.

People have been getting the Mandate of Heaven for a lot of stuff over the years. I'm starting to think that they're not always telling the truth about it. way. Yeah. People have been getting the mandate of heaven for a lot of stuff over the years. I'm starting to think that they're not always telling the truth about it. See, here's the issue. Yeah. Not with the mandate of heaven thing. I totally agree with what you're saying. You're right. There is the mandate of heaven on what you're saying. I'm crystallizing this point. Okay. And Alex's dumb shit like this, like where God has chosen us to You repeat it I'm fighting against the spirit of the Joker and Trump is Batman Yeah, all this stuff like it kind of needs to come from someone who seems nuts

It needs to because it's nuts. Yeah, so when he's out here like Seemingly tortured by the burden of the information that he's carrying like some kind of a Lovecraftian protagonist Yeah, like it makes sense for him to seem nuts Yeah, when he's just delivering this kind of normally it it doesn't hit I think it I think it goes back to something that we've we've kind of hit on a bunch of times which is you know the when the going gets weird the weird turn pro kind of thing like before sounding crazy while looking professional was the trick because it felt like that was almost a

dark commentary on how crazy everything was while people still try to act like it was normal Now everything's fucking nuts and he is not stepping up his game. He's not he should be the Joker at this point Right. I think so. Yeah, but I think that This is what I just get the sense of and what I feel I don't have anything to base this on But I just get the sense of like anything to base this on, but I just get the sense of like him realizing that he can make a lot of money with his alexjonesstore.com and all of these like little shells that he's set up and ways to avoid the bankruptcy and all that. But it's not that much. He can make

a good amount of money, but he's also pretty adjacent to the power structure that is ascendant and going to be coming in. He's close enough to Elon Musk. He's had the guy who sounds like him on the show a couple of times. I think he's making a pitch. I feel like he's trying to do a job interview or something like that. That's what it feels like. Well, that does make sense. And it just, I don't just don't think it works. You know, I feel- It's not a good fit.

Here's where, here's what I feel like I would do if I was Alex. I would try and go the like drug kingpin on the run way, you know? Like, I don't own anything in my own name, you know? Like, but I have so much attachment, like everybody around me is throwing around millions of dollars like it's pennies you know like yeah you can live on the best life without anybody even knowing it's his shit you know what is he doing this for I think he has no joie de vivre I think you might be right there's just nothing he's got to live for no Because space Batman no matter how many times you tell us how great your kids are you have to spend time with them to prove that you love them

Yeah anyway Alex goes on to talk about how these fires They're like how that Urquhart failure from One that was totally because of the globalists. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah when there was that blizzard in yeah Yeah, I remember that one and then he gets off track administrative murder and then it was like three years ago in Texas

Under the federal laws and regulations the Biden put in the states are told and the power collectives most of them private but their own collectives or a car in Texas that supplies three states pretty much completely total region gives power to five other states and they said five the federal government. The federal government is saying, you know, we're going to give you the power that supplies three states pretty much completely. Total gives power to five other states. And they said five days before Governor sent a letter to the

feds and said, We need you to. Give us an emergency authorization to up power and our coal plants and natural gas. We got this blue northern coming. I said, No. Well, I'll give you a million dollar an hour fines an hour for anybody the the the

the the the the the the the the

the the the police. You can't just control the police. You can't just control the police. You can't just control the police. Because imagine you're the globalist. You've got all these controls and you can just flip off the power here. Flip off the power there. Let fires get out of control here. You can

defund the police everywhere and then have the city councils hire their own private security. I can the case. Many different areas around the nation like Minneapolis and St. Paul. And it's all just a flagrant, raw, insane exercise of power. And again, it doesn't matter where you are in Europe, Australia, the UK. I mean, it came out that in Europe proper and Australia in the last few days that they

have the exact same policies where they illegal alien migrant rapes a child. They don't they don't charge them because they would be deported. And according to their regulations, not even a law, they decided it's immoral to deport an illegal so they're allowed to rape. Here it is. Victoria magistrates taught to give light sentences to avoid having criminal migrants deported. I have the newscast. It's in the biggest newspapers, and they're saying it's good. So Alex's retelling of what happened with the Texas snowstorm is completely false. That is just an entirely fictitious retelling of events as filtered through this weird info wars prism that none of that's accurate.

But also what does this have to do with the deportation policies of Australia? Why do we jump from energy reliability issues to a completely disconnected topic? So Alex is reading a headline about some reports about a presentation at a judicial professional development meeting that discussed ways to avoid deportation being an additional penalty people might face on top of jail time. The article Alex is talking about includes commentary from a former Victorian Supreme Court Justice named Kevin Bell who said quote, magistrates are required to consider all considerations and not give undue weight to one or the other.

So if this training creates the appearance that a particular outcome, that is that offenders likely to deportation must be given a light sentence, I think that's very unlikely it would be followed. The Judicial College of Victoria already includes a recognition that the possibility of someone being deported can make a sentence more onerous and reflects an additional consideration for a magistrate, but that doesn't mean that they have to give immigrants lower sentences. Their manual is clear. Quote, this depends on the personal circumstances of the offender and a court should not consider the possibility of deportation as a mitigatory factor unless

it will actually be a hardship for the offender. Moreover it will be given limited weight in cases where the offending is particularly serious. This very article that Alex is using as his source quotes the manual saying that it is quote error for a sentence sentence in court to artificially lower a sentence in order to avoid the consequences of the Migration Act. Right. This is all a bunch of bullshit but it's also a tangent. Like this doesn't mean anything like when you're talking he's talking about energy

issues and then he just jumps off into an entirely other, flagrant, emotionally charged subject that he's mishandling the information around. It's just fucking bullshit. It's like a karate movie, and the part where the guy suddenly drops down and does the spin kick and trips you. That's what it felt like.

It felt like he was talking to me, and then all of a sudden, I was on the ground on my back like what the fuck just happened here? I've been tripped! You very good at Karate Man? Except for he's bad at it. Yeah, it feels more like that Indiana Jones moment. Oh where he's doing all the ha ha ha ha ha and then you shoot him. Yeah but it's reversed. But it's reversed. Like the villain shoots the Indiana Jones.

But also the villain is doing a bunch of stuff with the gun at the same time. And then Batman's there. Yes, exactly. Everyone likes a Joker. He is the villain and he's Indiana Jones and the guy and the giant guy getting chopped up by the plane. Let's put it all together. So Biden. How is this possibly his fault? Well, he wants people just not fight fires. That sounds right. That sounds true. Biden is in California.

The zombie, the crib keeper, and he's sitting there with Air Force One, all the rest of the aircraft that follow him around. A bunch of presidential ospreys, you name it. And he's just sitting there today and they're impeding any of the emergency air traffic aircraft that's on the nose still from going in and fighting the fires while he's while the airplane sits there. Every administrative thing they can do like Nero reportedly sat and watched Rome burn after he started the fires.

That was Plato's plan actually. That's on record in the Roman histories. Commercial flights are allowed to fly. So the news had to get up and take flights to other cities because they're emergency choppers. Everything is not allowed to be in the air because his lordship is there. If Trump was there, obviously the president, he would have instantly lifted the flight ban, but Biden doesn't give a crap. And they've been talking about this flight control since yesterday afternoon.

And here we are the next day, there's the flight restriction map on screen for TV viewers, and it's funny to them. They're like, well, they're just idiots. No, they're not. So I'll be perfectly honest with you. This was not the end of the episode, but this is where I was like, fuck you. Yeah, I was done.

Yeah, this is a lot. Because I mean, like, you're just passing along bad information about this fire and creating sensationalism and nonsense well at the same time explaining that science fiction movies and books are real yeah and it's the plots of my enemies and you gotta be Joker or Batman yep all this it's just it's it's stupid yeah just stupid and I don't know how else to put this. It's a fucking weasel. Like, this is so pathetic.

Yeah. I think in 2016, he was less of like a pathetic entity than this. I agree. I agree. We've been through this already. Trump dropped the mother of all bombs and they shoved ISISis up our dirty assholes. Yep. We've already been over this Yep, he had a failure of an administration that was infested with globalists and all this He had to make excuses for four fucking years and then pretend that he won the election in 2020 secretly

Like we've already done this. Yeah, stop it Yeah, yeah stop pretending that he's like a model of like an Adonis who knows how to raise kids. Yeah. This is just... Ugh. Yeah. There's a lot of reruns on the screen these days. I'm not stoked about that.

It feels like everybody is like, I don't know, we can't change the channel. I guess we're just watching reruns. Fuck! I find that unacceptable. Yeah! And I think we need to do whatever we can to not be in that.

And if Alex insists on being in reruns and pretending that the last eight years didn't happen I'm not saying I'm not gonna listen to him, right? But I'm gonna be more hostile. I think I think that's a good call I think that is a good call. It makes me really mad. I think I think that's a good call. I just can't hear I can't I can't I Cannot hear someone calmly explained to me that sci-fi is real while trying to exploit Tragedy that is affecting people we know and you know people who friends of friends and you know like it's just Fuck off, dude. I mean yeah good bet Yeah, anyway. Yep

His tune changes a little bit or I get back to catastrophic contagion I be being released on us or if the Ebola comes out of Denver Aliens arrive this world yeah get some new storylines man. He tried Yes, exactly Anyway, we'll be back until then we've website and did we do it's not fight calm. Yep. We'll be back. Until then, we have a website. InDbDewItSelgeFight.com But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I am the mysterious professor. Woo yeah woo yeah woo! And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you.