Knowledge Fight - Repost: Episode #25

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

To celebrate the revelation that Mike Lindell's supposed information regarding election fraud came from a fake whistleblower named Dennis Montgomery, Dan and Jordan decided to repost an episode they did about Montgomery back in 2017.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George. Knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around, where's the alter of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your bright spot for today? My bright spot today, Jordan is chocolate graham crackers. Chocolate graham crackers. Very underrated. Are you talking fully dipped or are you talking the layer of chocolate on top of the graham crackers

that are chocolate? Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. They're not like actual milk chocolate. Right. Right. The chocolate graham crackers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Underrated. Underrated. Yeah. Straight up chocolate graham crackers. Yes. Absolutely. They're not too sweet. Okay. And they're not, I don't know. I just like chocolate graham crackers. I got some recently and I thought that they were really good and I'd forgotten how good they were. I can't remember the last time I had one. Honestly, you know, you used to pour like, or I used to pour like that. You'd get that handful of Teddy Grahams or whatever and drop it in that thing of milk and just practically drink it like cereal. Yeah, it's kind of like that, except for the, you know, it's like those Teddy Grahams. Yeah.

But in in brick form. I don't even know if I've had a brick one. Oh, man, you got to get some bricks. All right. That's what I'm going to do. So what do I do? What's your bright spot? My bright spot is the new album by Isaiah Rashad. It's his first album in five years. All right. And it's fantastic. And yeah, the sun's tirade was one of my favorite albums of 2016. It had a absolute destruction of verse by Kendrick and it was just fantastic. And then this new album is really, really great too. I'm very happy with it. Nice. Tennessee represent sounds like the chocolate graham crackers of albums and a little bit. Yeah, it's just good. Yeah. Yeah. So Jordan today, we have a re-release of an episode, which is something I don't think we've done ever. I don't think so. This point. Yeah. I think

sometimes we've said, Hey, go check back out this episode or whatever from the past. But today, what I thought, here's the deal. Yeah. On our last episode on Wednesday, we discussed how we were going to check in with Alex as he goes to Sioux Falls for this, this dome cyber conference. Right. And obviously we're going to have to follow that story under martial law. Because martial law was going to be unveiled on the 11th Wednesday, which didn't end up happening. No, that's true. To my Alex didn't go. Of course not. Of course not. It's going to be a disaster. Yeah. He's been in studio this whole week. And so like that didn't happen. We don't even like mentioned Mike Lindell and all of that stuff. I mean, maybe a little bit, but like not, not, not enough to, to peak my fancy. Right. And so

like, you know, that's a disappointment. I was looking forward to another Alex on the road situation. And I was looking forward to him going to Mike Lindell's big Comic Con, because I spent a good bit of time watching his stream. Yeah. Just to prepare myself, to give myself the context that I needed to discuss. Alex's inevitable. It was such a waste of time. It was unbelievably bad. Oh, why was it a waste of time? You had to, you had to listen to him prove his case. And obviously the Supreme Court will be voting nine zero by the end of the end of today. I think today is the deadline. Today is the deadline. I just I don't know, man. The problem that I had was that, you know, I'd seen a couple of funny clips on Twitter. I was excited for whatever train wreck was going to happen and it. There's

nothing. It was just a long stretches of just saying numbers. I got nothing here. I'm going to watch a 72 hour PowerPoint presentation. Yes. Yes. That's what it is, isn't it? Yes. Weird guy with an American flag bow tie. What's happening? I would rather the guy from the 90s who found a way to get free grant money from the government and wore the suit and did those commercials. I would do a 72 hour how to get free grant money from him. We might. I wonder about that guy. I wonder if he's not not that part. Okay. I wonder if like he actually helped people. Anyway, let's not. Let's not Okay. So I, you know, it was a bomber. Alex is Alex has not done anything really worthwhile. Yeah. And the time that I would have spent, you know, just like being like, Hey, let's do a past episode. Sure.

We spent watching Michael and Dell stupid conference. And God damn it. My pillow ruined us again. There was there was a small part of me that was thinking like, Okay, well, let's find some of this good audio from the the my pillow stuff. Sure. But you can find that if you want to search on on Twitter and such, you can find other people who have posted, you know, the stuff that's fun. Right. I don't think I don't think we need to pirate their content or anything. Fair. So one of the things that I did see come up is that it's being discussed. Yeah, that the source of the information behind Michael and Dell's conspiracies, of course, is one Dennis Montgomery, our old pal DM, Dennis, Dennis, Dennis. So it turns out that not only is Dennis Montgomery the source apparently of this information

that Michael and Dell has. Yeah, he also is the guy who claims that he created hammer and scorecard. The things that are behind like Sidney Powell's a lot of her conspiracies. I like taking credit for a multi billion dollar lawsuit that did not get thrown out this week. Another another bit of an important news. Another bit of trouble. And so one of the things that I thought when I when I heard that is is like he's done it again. There's Dennis Montgomery guy. He is low key. One of the most destructive forces in like conspiracy theory con shit. He's a whack-a-mole too. It's like you think he's down and then all of a sudden he pops back up behind Mike Limdell's 72 hour symposium. Like what are you supposed to do with this asshole? He's a name that most people don't know,

but he's fucked up so much. It's not even like he's behind the scenes guy. It's almost like he just finds a way to get into the right situation, give the wrong information to the right people, and then we're all fucked. Yeah. Yeah. So the episode today that we're going to release is our 25th episode from 2017. Oh, boy. Yeah, it's a ways back. And what this is is I was thinking about it as like, well, okay, Dennis Montgomery is coming back up. We could talk about this again, or we already did. And I don't think a lot of people, you know, some people go back and they listen to all the old episodes. Some people don't. And I think that a lot of people probably haven't heard this. And, you know, it's, you know, it's Dennis. It's Dennis Montgomery. Yeah. If

anybody had listened to this ahead of time, we would never have been here. Maybe Mike Limdell or Sidney Powell. If they'd listened to our show, how many people would not be getting sued if they'd just listened to our show to save you $1.6 billion? You just known. Oh, oh, oh, is this Dennis Montgomery? We're going to get in trouble. I do believe that in the episode I say if I saw Dennis Montgomery, I would run the other direction. That would have been good advice for all of you dumbasses. Oh, man. It's so funny. Yeah. And, you know, I think I think what you have is over time, people have become so gullible, I guess, that somebody like Dennis Montgomery could get, like, well, way back, you know, could get somebody like Joe Arpaio to go along with him because Joe

Arpaio was trying to beat a case. Right. Maybe I can get the shifty weirdo to come up with a conspiracy that I could use to my advantage. Right. And it doesn't work. You know, it doesn't work. You know, it doesn't work then. Everyone's like, fuck this noise. Everybody is like the world is so weird now. And Mike Lindell has so much money to throw around at nothing now that all of this like so much of the quote unquote proof and the lingering of the election conspiracies comes back to this guy who should just be discounted out of hand. Yeah. You know, when the going gets weird, the weird refuse to die and continue to pop up wherever it is that they can like fucking zombies trying to kill the rest of us all. It's wild. Yeah. So I was listening back to this episode.

And just because I felt like, you know, I want to check back in, I think that there's a couple things I want to say before we end up playing it. One is that this was the first time that I really tried on our show to get into a topic. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and I can tell like listening back to it as like I did not have a lot of practice in sure doing that. I don't think that I wouldn't say that I have a cringy response to it, but it definitely shows that I had not done a whole lot of that. I mean, that's good. Five years later, you should be better at this. You'd hope. Yeah. And then the second thing is, you know, on that same kind of idea, I think that there's a little bit of language that we wouldn't use today that is thrown around. And I think I think sensibilities

are slightly different. And I was considering going back and like cutting out stuff. Sure. And what have you, but I don't, I feel like that would be slightly dishonest. No, we were who we were. And, you know, part of that is coming from a far more ignorant place. You know, back in 2017, we hadn't even really started the show. Or, you know, we were 25 episodes in. But as far as our listener base, there was just, you know, the few people who lived in Chicago, really, that were, that were around. So now that, now that I'm not in such an isolated place, you know, only being around comics, only being around all of those people and have learned a shit ton. Yeah. I think some of it, it was like gear to hear is like, oh, yeah. But at the same time,

it does represent show some modicum of growth. And I think that that is something you kind of have to just take on the chin a little bit. And then the other thing too, I noticed was like having a bit more fun back then. I didn't know too much. I mean, yeah. I think that before the world became what it is now is a bit easier to have fun talking about these subjects. It's, it's, it's really, it was really remarkable to go back and see the, the like, I don't know, goofiness. Yeah. Like you would interrupt so much more. And I was so much more into it because we weren't living through a year and a half, two year long pandemic. It could have mostly been averted. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was weird. It's funny that back then I predicted

that Trump would try and overthrow the government and become a dictator. And then when it happened, I was surprised. It was very strange. I was, and I wasn't that surprised. But yeah, it's a, it's different now though. It would be like me predicting, well, Dennis Montgomery is going to be trouble in the future. I'd still be surprised that anybody took him seriously again. That's fair. That's fair. And yet here we are. Holy shit. What a, what a bummer. Something so easy to avoid. Dennis Montgomery. Oh man. You know, it's weird when somebody has put together a decades long body of work that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt. This is someone you should not trust. Yeah. And then five years later, people are still like, I'm going to give this shifty,

weirdo a shot. You know, every, every group needs to have a loose cannon. I mean, I would say that even like taking, leaving aside whatever we did or this episode or anything like that. Totally. I think there was plenty of public information at that point not to take this guy seriously. Yeah. But people are addicted to it. They're addicted to fake whistleblowers. They're addicted to tales of intrigue and, and like Jason Bourne types. It's kind of amazing that tell me what I want to hear will often override any and all information. Yeah. It's pretty, it's pretty, pretty sad. It's real bummer. Yes it is. So we're going to get to that and that, that episode will be coming up, but there's one other thing I wanted to just discuss a little news item that I think

is important. I don't know if you saw the Rand Paul news. Would you like to debate him on these stocks? I would love to debate Rand Paul. It is day 285 since I have officially demanded a debate with Rand Paul. Would you like to debate Rand Paul about the ethics of his wife owning stock in the company that makes Remdesivir while he goes on an anti-vaccination crusade? If that is an anti lockdown, if there's a debate, it should last one sentence, unethical. It's one word, unethical. Dicey. Mark Dicey Clay. That's what we're dealing with. The pillar of integrity, Rand Paul. Yes, I saw that and immediately thought of you and thought of how much fun that would be to debate.

I want to debate him. I really do. God, that would be hilarious. So yeah, folks, here we are. Please enjoy this episode from the archives and I don't know, like, you know, because based on the time, so we record this maybe, maybe on Thursday or Friday, Alex will go to Sioux Falls true for the aftermath. If I were him, I would stay away from this thing. People showing up at ground zero, nine, eleven. Survey the damage. We'll check in on Monday, but I hope you all have a good weekend and we will catch you on the other side. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are back

for yet another episode where we sit down and drink a little bit of wine and discuss what's going on in the wacky, wacky world of Alex Jones. Is there, is there a twist to that? There is. There's a chubby checker featuring the fat boys level twist. All right, we're done. I've already used chubby checker once as an effort, but I realized he did the twist. It's too late. With the fat boys later. It's too late for us. All right. The twist is that I watched tons of Info Wars and Alex Jones in particular. And I do not watch any. None at all. Not a iota, except I did just trick you into watching. You tried. You tried to get me to watch some and then David Knight appeared like a fucking demon from beneath the boring sixth level of hell. Like the world's most boring

hobo coming on TV. We did find out he's got quite a bit of a gray in his beard. I didn't realize that. Oh, tons. Yeah. We're recording this on Sunday and we wanted to check in because Alex had promoted online that he's about to drop a huge pizza gate bombshell. And so we wanted to check in on what that was. That's how I tricked you into watching so far at press time. No bombshell. Nothing. So we will monitor that and keep you up to date. Generally, probably won't know not at all. I'm still standing by my former theory that I espoused on the last podcast that is he got threatened with a lawsuit. Yeah. I think we can stick with that one. I'm not sure that anything that he says today could shake my belief in that. No, he was definitely he was definitely at least

served some sort of papers, maybe a subpoena to, you know, give. Sure. Shit. I don't destroy any of your evidence. Yeah, something like that. He was shook. He would. Yeah. But anyway, almost as much as when he lost all of his money. He was way more shook. So today, what we're going to do is we're going to go over, you know, this is going to be a special expose episode. Oh boy. Generally, what we do is I take a day in the life of Alex Jones and I play the clips and we discuss where he's incredibly wrong about everything. Right. Today, what we're going to be doing is breaking down the entirety of last week. This is unprecedented and a busted ass narrative that Alex is promoting and the results of my incredibly deep research into why Alex Jones. I feel like he has to know

that he's just being a complete liar. All right. He has to know. I have gotten about 30 texts from you over this past week about how intense your research is. And I just wonder, I've been, I wonder, I've been reading court documents. Why? What is wrong with you? Judges decisions. I want you to be okay. That's, this is now, this is eventually just going to turn into me wishing well on you. No, but see, the thing is I'm thrilled. I know that's one of the problems. I had an amazingly great time reading up on all this stuff. Okay. I mean, some of the stuff that I found is like legitimately horrifying, right? Because there's, there's, there's individuals that we're going to discuss and you're probably aware of maybe one or two of them. Jesus. Sure. He's going to come in the

mix. Franklin Delano Roosevelt as he keeps being referred to on the info wars, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Really? Oh boy. I think it's an accident, but I'm not sure. I don't, it could be a play on his cousin. The one that he married. Possibly. But look, I, there's a guy, at least one who's going to come up who we all know who he is. We've heard of him before, but the, the amount of research that I did really highlighted how much worse of a person he is. Okay. So that was not fun reading some of the stories about him, but who we're going to get to it. Why are you teasing that? Because look, it's, this is now all I can think about is who it might be. And my first thought is OJ for some reason and I don't think that's right. No, we watch that documentary. We know how bad a guy

is, but look, I know I'm doing too much teasing, but we have to start out our episodes as we try to do each time with an out of context drop. It has nothing to do with what we're going to be talking about from Alex Gallup is back to fake polls. They have key demographics, key phone numbers they can call where they can produce any numbers they want. Does anybody believe that Trump has fallen from 56 down to 37 in a national poll? No. Yep. Yep. Yep. Anyway, does anybody believe a lot of people? Is that, is that a hypothetical maybe over 50% of the population? Yeah. All right. So anyway, here we go. Let's get to it. Let's get down to business. All right. Because this is going to be intense. All right. I don't want to sing. Let's get down

to business from the Mulan sound rather do. This is how we do it. I would really rather you didn't do that. All right. The party's up on the West side. You know what? Eventually I will make a man out of it. Just because I love pink and also a Carly Ray Jepsen. I don't know if we've been over that one. Pink, Lana Del Rey, Carly Ray Jepsen and Dido. That's so far. All right. That's my Mount Rushmore. Okay, that's a bad rush. Fuck you. Okay. Okay. That's fine. So as I said throughout the week, he's pitching this entire area. Are we on anya? Are we good with her? I case to case basis song by song. I like the Orinoco flow or that song from sweet November. Only time you already know more about anya than any human being should say where the road goes. Listen, we got to get down to

business. Yeah. So here's Alex on Monday's show sort of giving an introduction to the thesis of what we're going to be talking about today. Okay. You're listening to the Alex Jones show. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this Monday, March 20th, 2000 and 17. If you go to DrudgeReport.com, you can see the headline right in the middle column. It's been there since yesterday afternoon. NSA documents prove surveillance of Trump and his family. Bombshell Discovery shows targets of NSA's Project Dragnet. That's an admitted illegal project. And now we've gotten basically the indexes of it or our sources have. It's a share of Joe Arpaio's cold case. Posse's had this for two years. Of course, now out of office as of last year,

voted out of office. And so that information has now been put out via infowars.com because the feds obviously under Obama did nothing. Well, there's a new sheriff in town in D.C. And Joe Arpaio, he's no longer in town. He's gone. Soon you'll see evidence of NSA spying. And this goes back as far as Obama's concerned, eight years. Eight years. But isn't it interesting? DrudgeReport.com the biggest new site in the world, hands down second largest website in the world, period, after MSN, top linked in the corner last night. Then it moved down this morning to the middle column. NSA documents surveillance on Trump family more Project Dragnet. When he's saying was that a complete sentence? No, because when he's saying more, that's that

click here for more. He's reading the link. And then and then Project Dragnet is a second link. Oh, okay. So he's, he just isn't, he doesn't even know what he's reading on the page. No, it's insane. He actually, if we keep listening, he does it again. His rhythm of that is, is bananas. Trump surveilled more Project Dragnet. Like, like Christopher Walken is doing the show. Yeah. It's, it's a, I mean, again, it is indicative of his lack of preparation. He doesn't know what he is actually about to talk about at all. It's, it's infuriating. It drives me incredibly insane. But so we have the, this clip isn't done. There's more. Oh, good. But before we get to it, I will say what we have already is the introduction of this theme. It's that there is an NSA CIA whistle

blower who has come out, who has a ton of documents that proves that Donald Trump is being surveilled. And as he, as Alex steamrolls along with this, we will learn that not only is Donald Trump being surveilled and has been for years back when he was just a businessman. Right. Not only that, Alex Jones, Michael Savage, other people's families and these just just other people's tons of folks, just tons of folks. Yeah. Being, being surveilled. Was his or said we're nodding. No. Oh, okay. Although Snowden does get cucked out a little bit in this episode. How do you cuck out Snowden? He's a bad because he's so minor compared to what this whistle blower is bringing out. All right. All right. And I assure you, we're going to dig

into every single element of this. Oh boy. And I will, this is going to get deep. If in the next two and a half to three hours. Oh boy. We don't end up with everyone who hears this realizing that this is nothing. I will commit Harry carry. No, I won't. Nope. That's a promise. Yeah. That's a verbal contract. Anyway, exactly. Let's get back to the clip before I make worse offers. Don't hate to dance. Patreon. I need to buy a story. Otherwise you won't be able to commit Harry carry. Yeah. It's the only way to go about things honorably. You'd think MSM would at least come out and say it wasn't true. Kind of like when we got the Mike reports from the state police and then from federal marshals and other copy of a different division because they were all

different variants depending on who they were sent to. And for a week, the media ignored it. Then they said it was fake. Then they said, okay, it's real. Well, of course it was real. I didn't just get it from my sources and believe it. I also called the phone numbers on there and the FBI is like, oh, you're not supposed to have that. Where are you? Where? And then my little arguments about it said it's already out. I already have it. It's ready to be published. I'm publishing it right now. So there you go. NSA documents, surveillance on Trump family, more project dragnet. Again, that's him reading the links and not figuring out how sentence works. Tom Hanks and Dan Ackroyd. Project dragnet. Is that their theme song? I don't

remember. I have no idea. Just the facts, ma'am. Yes. There we go. Wasn't there to make the movie with The Rock and Steve Carell? Is that right? I don't know. They did not do that. I know they made a dragnet movie. Yeah, with Tom Hanks and Dan Ackroyd. No, that was the old one. They made a new one with Steve Carell. What? I don't think The Rock was in it. I think I'm conflated. I don't think you're, I don't think I know it. This is so irrelevant to the point. What is? So on Sunday of last week, Info Wars published what they believed or what they are claiming is a database of phone numbers and addresses. Right. And Alex has said this, these were my old phone numbers. This is correct. These are the phone numbers that I have for Donald Trump. These are real phone numbers.

But as we know, he doesn't know Donald Trump's phone number. No, every time he gets a call, he's like, wait, I think this is the right area code for the president. He keeps saying that. Yeah. So his claim that he has multiple phone numbers for Trump, it falls flat for us. But. Well, but he does have Trump's in different area codes, right? Is that what we're saying right there? Yeah, yeah. Rest in peace, Nate Dogg. But he has these things that he published with some redacted parts, you know, like you don't want to fake redacted parts. Well, no, but you don't want, even if you do have this information that you've got, you don't want to dox tons of people. So they, you know, clipped off parts of phone numbers and what have you. Okay.

They claimed that it was a part of a massive index of people who were being spied on. And this is from this whistleblowers information. Now, the problem that we have with that is that is completely unprovable and all of this information could have been gotten by someone who has the minimal amount of hacking skills and is willing to falsify documents. Yeah. So keep that in mind as we go further. I am struggling to keep it in mind right now. Anything that Alex has posted does not have to come. Like every piece of evidence that he's posted on the website does not have to come from like an NSA source. No, of course not. It's all very easily accessible information. Like a lot of the information is the address of Mar-a-Lago. I could Google that. Yeah. Is it, is it, did he

just print out like a part of the phone book? I don't think he did. I think someone else did and sent it to him as evidence of a leak. Okay. So it's, it's not the white papers. It's the white pages. That's what we're talking about right now. Nailed it. I got it. Nailed it. So I can sound bite. Yeah. You think I can't sound bite? I think you can sound bite baby. I can sound bite all day. So this is basically the construction of what is going on. Right. We're building the foundation of a lie about spies. A spy lie. A spy lie. And Alex is using whatever information that he got as evidence that Trump has been being spied on. He's using it as evidence that he was right all along. Which is none. Right. So on Monday, he has an interview with a guy named Mike Zulo. Okay. And

Mike Zulo is a former detective and for, and for what? Yes. So he's come back for one last job. Right. Is he, is he two or three days away from retirement? Please give me something. Certainly passed. Okay. He's currently a used car dealer as far as I can tell. Okay. That's what I found in my slight bits of research. Sideways move. I don't care too much about Mike Zulo necessarily. All right. What I do care about more is that he is an employee and former former employee because he's not out. He's not in work anymore of Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Great. He was a member of his cold case posse. Oh no. And now I think it is time that we start to deal a tiny bit with Joe Arpaio. That racist garbage pile of human fuckface. That guy? He, that guy? It's who I was talking

about earlier when I said when you look at him, he's way worse than even what you just said. Yeah. I did not know if you could get worse than everything I know about him. So we're going to get to it and Mike Zulo is going to make the argument. That's like finding out the devil is also Alex Jones. Like it just doesn't get much worse that you think the devil can't go lower. But there we go. The devil also like, you know, cheats at cards or something like that. God damn it, man. Come on. In the old West though. So you always shoot him. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll get to Zulo's point, which is basically that when Joe Arpaio was being tried for contempt of court, for not making the necessary changes that a judge insisted that he make based on findings that they

had of racial discrimination in the Maricopa County police force. Right. The part where he didn't follow the law on one occasion. Twice. And then also didn't follow the law telling him to follow the law. There were two times that he was brought into court in 2008 and 2010 and told you need to make these changes. This is a severe problem. And then he didn't. And he was held in contempt of court. Yeah. Instead of arrested and had his left leg cut off as what should have happened. Right. In this court case, I don't want to like he's right leg. So I don't want to remove his good leg. Sure. You need to be able to kick. Yeah, exactly. So Mike Zulo is going to make the argument as we go along that he was being, he was being surveilled upon and wire tapped during that

investigation. And we'll deal with that in a moment. But what I want to deal with first is I want to give an accurate picture of who Sheriff Joe Arpaio is. Let's get down to it. I have pages of boy of instances where any single one of these is disqualifying. So get ready. Does he say grab him by the pussy a bunch? No, because we know that's the only locker room. So he's the sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona. Yeah. In 1993, Joe Arpaio set up a tent city to house his inmates outside. He did not believe that they deserve to be inside. Great. Arpaio literally described the tent city as a quote concentration camp. That's good. Bad news. I like his willingness to embrace his monstrosity. Like he didn't even bother to call it something different. He's like,

if I could burn you, I would, I would totally do that. Speaking of the law or something says I can't speaking of burning these inmates, please don't say any more after that on July 2 2011, when temperatures in Phoenix hit 118 degrees Fahrenheit, Arpaio measured the temperature inside tent city tents as 145 degrees Fahrenheit. Some inmates complained that their fans near their beds were not working and that their shoes were melting from the heat. Jesus. During the summer of 2003, when outside temperatures exceeded 110 degrees Fahrenheit, Arpaio said to complaining inmates, it's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents and they didn't commit any crimes. So shut your mouths, which is horrible. He's not a human being. Is he? Nope. He's not.

In 1997, how do you, how do you do that? How do you not have any empathy for another human being? In 1997, Amnesty International said Arpaio's tent city jail is not a quote adequate or humane alternative to housing inmates in suitable jail facilities. People get mad when you leave a dog in a fucking car. And this dude is literally burning people alive in the desert sun. Tent city is criticized by groups contending that there are violations of human and constitutional rights implicit in its, uh, at formation. All the rights. It's a war crime. Yep. You, you wouldn't do that at fucking Guantanamo Bay. Well, his argument is that they're criminals and who cares? That's a bad argument. Fuck them. They committed crimes. No, that's a really bad argument. Sure.

One of Arpaio's public relations actions was the requirement that inmates wear pink underwear in order to prevent its theft by the released inmates, which is a stupid rationale. Uh, he claims, Yeah, but I mean, that's the most harmless thing I've ever heard anybody do. So he claims that he has saved the county $70,000 in the first year of this rule, uh, was in effect. That's a lot of fucking underwear. That's lies. Arpaio subsequently started where it costs 50 cents more in my experience. Arpaio subsequently started to sell customized pink boxers with the Maricopa County Sheriff's logo and go Joe on them as a fundraiser for Sheriff's posse association. What? Despite allegations of misuse of funds received from these sales, Arpaio declined to provide an accounting

for the money. So he basically used it as a promotional tool. Uh, and there's no evidence also that he saved that $70,000 at all. So, so, so we're ending with his financial crimes. We're not even ending. What? We're not even close. No. In 2010, Arpaio put together an armed illegal immigration posse to help enforce immigration laws. Why do you keep saying posse posse is bad? It's real bad. You know what? It gets worse. This posse included actors, Steven Seagal and Lou Ferrigno. No, that's better. I am way more comfortable with that posse now. They have guns. One, I know that that posse is, uh, immune to ninjas. That's the first thing we know about that posse or voodoo. No ninjas. Uh, and then if anybody gets really out of control, uh, they've got

somebody to fall back on. He's a big green guy. I don't know. You would not. You would not like me if you're illegal. Uh, especially not if you're, oh God, Joe Arpaio's a monster. We're not even close to the tip of the iceberg. The ACLU has alleged that quote, Arpaio routinely abused pre-trial detainees at Maricopa County jail by feeding them moldy bread, rotten fruit and other contaminated food, housing them in cells. So hot is to endanger their health, denying them care for serious medical and, uh, mental health needs and keeping them packed as tightly as sardines and holding cells for days at a time during intake. Now that's before they've been fucking middle medieval ages. What is fucking happening? That's before they were charged. That's before they were

charged with a fucking crime. This is pre-trial detainees. That's not good. That's you should probably treat those people. Uh, no, you should treat human beings like human beings. A federal judge named Neil Wake ruled in 2008 and 2010 that the county jails violated human and constitutional rights of the inmates. Yeah. That's a very simple ruling. That should have taken like 20 seconds. Under Arpaio, the Maricopa County jails have lost accreditation multiple times. In September 2008, the national committee on correctional healthcare terminated the accreditation of Maricopa County sheriff's office jails for failure to maintain compliance with national standards and providing false information about such compliance. What does that mean? They lied. What do you mean? No,

I mean lost accreditation. Does that mean people aren't allowed to be in there anymore? No, just that they're not supported by these medical, uh, associations that are in charge of sort of, uh, keeping track and making sure that jails, uh, are treating people humanely. So they're just, so he's still allowed to treat people in humanely. They just say, I think that's bad. Basically. Yeah. But it's a big deal. They're fucking amazing. But it's a big deal. I love though. I love their life saving abilities. They have no like enforcement capabilities, but they do have like me. How is it that Alex Jones can get a fuck face to go to a goddamn pizza restaurant, but we can't get human beings to save other human beings lives that are being burned alive

in October, 2000. Liberals are pussies. That's why in October, 2008, a U S district court judge ruled that grossly inadequate conditions at the Maricopa County jail overseen by our, our, our Pio, uh, our unconstitutional and jeopardize the health and safety of prisoners. Yeah. I hate to keep hammering on that, but these are different cases also. Our Pio has said that his jails are meant as places of punishment and the inhabitants are criminals, although in fact, most inmates have not been convicted of a crime and are awaiting trial. Fuck you. Fuck. What the fuck? It gets worse. Where do these people fucking come from? It gets worse. Who the fuck? At least Ted Bundy was honest about his monstrosity. Sure. Like I would much rather like he's a sociopath that's still

allowed to roam the streets. Like he just figured out how to fucking turn it into a money. Like he turned being Ted Bundy into a job. That's what he did. And he was reelected like four times. Well, Arizona is a fucking garbage hole filled with old white people. That's fair. Here, here, here's another one for you. Under our Pio, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office may have improperly cleared or reported as solved as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation. How's that grab you during a three year period ending in 2007, more than 400 sex crimes reported to our Pio's office. No, we're inadequately investigated or not investigated at all. No. While providing police services for El Mirage, Arizona, the Maricopa County Sheriff's

Office under our Pio failed to follow through on at least 32 reported child molestations. Jesus fuck, why? Even though the sub the suspects were known in all but six cases. Many of here's why many of the the children who were victims were illegal immigrants. Fuck. Doesn't care. How do you not care about that? I don't know. You're like even fuck. In 1999, undercover Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputies arrested James Seville, then 18 years old and charged him with plotting to kill our Pio with a pipe bomb. A local television station had been tipped off to the arrest by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and broadcast footage of the arrest that evening. The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office held a news conference shortly after the arrest and our Pio

appeared in interviews on local television stations saying quote, if they think they're going to scare me away with bombs and everything else, it's not going to bother me. After spending four years in jail awaiting trial, Seville was about to four years awaiting trial. Yep. He was about to sign a plea deal that would have sent him to prison for 20 years. Although he maintained his innocence, he was initially unwilling to take a chance on being sentenced to even longer than that he had been convicted if you were convicted. However, the former head of undercover investigations for the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office called Seville's legal team with a bombshell. Based on his review of the case, he felt that Seville had been entrapped. Although entrapment

is all but impossible to prove in most jurisdictions, Seville's attorneys eventually discovered that the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office detectives had bought the bomb parts themselves, then convinced Seville to build it even though he was not predisposed to commit such a crime. On July 9th, 2003, a Maricopa County Superior Court jury acquitted Seville, finding that the bomb plot was an elaborate publicity stunt to boost Arpaio's re-election bid. In 2004- Are you fucking serious? In 2004- He did the Nixon? In 2004, Seville argued Arpaio and the Maricopa County, or he sued Arpaio and Maricopa County for wrongful arrest and entrapment seeking $10 million in damages. He deserves more and

Joe Arpaio should have been hit with a fucking pipe bomb. In 2008, the suit was settled with Maricopa County paying Seville $1.6 million. So a little bit less than the 10, he should have gotten. He should have gotten fucking a billion dollars. Yeah. So I am like this is the hardest thing. I am against the death penalty. But Joe Arpaio should be fucking killed. He's he should be dead. He's there's only there's only one reason for the death penalty. It's for fucking monsters like him. He's abused the public trust to such an extent. He's abused human beings. Yeah. He should be fucking like there's no other there's no other solution for that. We're not done. We're no. He's already dead. This is the producer. He's already in my brain. It gets even worse. It can't. The

Justice Department accused Arpaio of engaging in quote unconstitutional policing by unfairly targeting Latinos for detention and arrest and retaliate retaliating against critics. In the report, a Justice Department concluded that Arpaio oversaw quote the worst pattern of racial profiling in US history in 2015. That's fucking hard to do after after all our genocides. That's a tough one. Yeah. If you get labeled with that. Wow. In 2015, Arpaio was charged with contempt of court for failing to implement a court's required changes to his police force regarding rampant racial profiling. He was also found to have destroyed evidence in the case. Yeah, a fucking course he did. He's also publicly promoted the Obama birther hoax

repeatedly up to December of last year 2016. He was quote investigating the birth certificate and he erroneously claimed he found nine points of forgery in Obama's birth certificate. So all right. In 2008, I was going to take notes, but then I just started slitting my fucking wrists in 2008 when Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon called the federal investigation into our call for a federal investigation into Arpaio's immigration enforcement tactics. Arpaio's office responded by demanding the mayor's emails and phone logs. Arpaio also had his critic Maricopa County supervisor Don Stapley, a Republican, arrested on suspicion of failing to properly disclose disclose business interests. Stapley agreed to a 3.5 million settlement in his lawsuit against

Arpaio, Thomas and the county for false arrest. So he's tried to jail his critics multiple times and been sued for it and lost. He's cost the county so many millions of dollars because of these illegal tactics that he's undergone and he was reelected four times and they tried to have like a runoff election twice and drop the mic there. It failed both times. Really crazy. Yeah, really? Yeah. But I mean, that's how it goes. How could this country have elected Trump? Oh, that's how that's how it goes with deeply entrenched like illegal operations. This fucking racist pile of shit. Yeah. So you might think that, you know, he's a racist. He's bigot. He's awful. But how is he not in jail? Because he argues that he gets results. How is he not in jail, though?

Well, he committed all the crimes. He might be soon. He should be dead. He should. His argument is that he's gruff, but he gets results. No, but that's not an argument in a case of law, but also listen to this in 1998. I can't argue. Oh, okay. Here's Jordan. You're under arrest for terrorism. Uh, excuse me. I believe I get results and that's not an argument in 1998. Arpaio commission to study by Arizona state university criminal justice professor Marie L Griffin to examine recidivism rates based on conditions of confinement. So basically like before how often people come back, but it's also the study is supposed to be before him and after him or like while he's in charge and his predecessor. Oh, for fuck's sake. Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those

of his predecessor, the study found, quote, there's no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989 to 90 and those released in 1994 to 1995. So what you're saying is that he is both a criminal, a monster and is defensive. I get results does not actually get results. Statistically, it is a lie. He's a fucking how, how can you, how could you not prosecute him? Well, like there's no, there's no way that you could not put him in jail forever and ever and ever and for all the lives that I know that this is a lot of information and it's long, but I'm giving you all of this to believe in reincarnation or ghosts just so that guy can be tortured every moment for the rest of fucking

eternity. I'm giving you all of this information and there's still even more, but the reason is because the interview that Alex does is with this guy is close associate. Okay. So a guy who's carrying water for Joe Arpaio is who Alex has by the, by the transitive property of you're a fucking monster. We can determine that we're talking to a fucking monster that this guy was up to some shit. Yeah, he's an evil man. So guys, here's, here's the situation. There's a lot of really fucked up stuff that you can find out about the history of Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff's Association. And I just got a fucking bullet point list of the absolute utter monstrosity of this man. Upon reflection, me and Jordan have talked it over and we've decided

that a lot of the stuff is not right for us to necessarily be broadcasting. It's sensitive stuff. I think you should find this on your own in a comfortable place because listening to it in a row is overwhelming. It, it shook me. So a good place to start is just his Wikipedia page. Yeah, no kidding. A lot of citations you can find about that. If you want to go, you can find out more about the depths of the truly irresponsible and evil police work that he, Joe Arpaio presided over. He ranks up there with everyone convicted in the Nuremberg trials. I genuinely, I genuinely believe that. So anyway, guys, this is the sort of like look into it. We'll, we'll wait. We'll be here. Are we going to, are we going to give a moment of silence? No, let's get into

feel free to press pause. We will wait four seconds for you and then we'll kick right back in. Here's me like tapping my foot, waiting. So here we go. We get into now this interview with Mike Zulo that who again is one of the higher ups of the Maricopa County, former higher ups as it were. Alex does a lot of vamping. He's an accomplice to every single thing that Joe Arpaio has done. Yes. Well, I mean, I mean, he hasn't always been there, but in spirit. Yeah. He implicitly signed off by supporting him and still supporting him to this day. So Alex does a lot of sort of like opening presentation before he gets to the interview. So play a couple of clips of that. Okay.

Bombshell, Obama's NSA illegally spied on Sheriff Arpaio's prosecution. They've got the documents, the surveillance, Arpaio's house, his office, all of it spied on and used in the federal court. Again, Sheriff Arpaio, they're trying to put in prison. Wow. Good federal officer long serving decorated Sheriff Patriot monster. Obama trying to put him in prison murderer using the spy grid to try to make up garbage racist and guess who else is in the database? Yours truly. Isn't that just special? Not particularly who's who the Patriots in there? I don't want to get on that list. Don't you? Nope. Definitely not. Shifting a bunch of papers. Which list was he shifting right there? I think it was the red

list. So red list. Oh, no. So the argument that he's making there is not the black list. Maybe it is the red list. Red list was a Tommy's. I don't know. Isn't that the one that started David Dukovny where he does the red shoe diaries? So the argument that he's making there is that our Pio was being spied on during his trial and what have you. This is absolute utter nonsense. Why would you need to? The secondary argument that he's making is that this database has come out with all of these, all these people's names and Alex Jones is one of them. The knock list for a mission impossible. I think it's the black list during James Spader. I corrected my reference. All right. Fine. We'll get to you in this round. We'll get a little bit further down the line and

make sure I'll get back to why that's bullshit in a second. But let's get through his, his introductions here. This is where he connects what's going on the our Pio spying situation to what we're going to be talking about later. The bigger case that involves Trump that involves Alex. It's this guy named Dennis Montgomery, who is that NSA CIA whistleblower who is much bigger than Snowden. I swear to God. Have you seen the movie Zodiac? Yeah. Have you seen any movie where somebody has a giant fucking pinboard filled with string connecting one thing to another? Because it's on your goddamn wall. It's in my head. It's oh, this one's real simple though. It's not I assure you this is not that hard to one line of string. That's all we needed for this one.

Basically, this was all brought to them years ago in federal court. They ignored it. And this is the only story coming after our Pio even harder because they knew he had the whistleblower that had all this information. So he connects everything there. This whistleblower in question is this guy named Dennis Montgomery. Dennis Montgomery. Would you like a backstory on him now or later? Let's go with half and half. Give me one bit of backstory. One bit of backstory. Yeah. Okay. Here's a fun one. So Dennis Montgomery was a guy he founded a video compression noise filtering business called e-trepid technologies. A video compression noise filtering business. In 1998, he founded this company.

Oh, okay. The business started out as a tool for the casino industry, but eventually they sought out government contracts. In 2014, Montgomery was revealed to be working as a confidential informant for Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He claimed that when he was contracting for the CIA through the e-trepid technologies, the government contracts that he was doing, he obtained documents that proved a conspiracy against Arpaio. Basically that the Department of Justice under Eric Holder was working with the judge in the case and Arpaio's racial profiling case that the two of them were working together and he had the documents to prove it. Isn't that just called, isn't that just called like doing the law? In this case, it's conspiracy. Well, I mean,

is conspiracy, is it just like, hey, let's partner up? I guess. Yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't man. You can't partner up. Otherwise it's a conspiracy. The allegation was that he was alleged like wiretapping them, which is like the DOJ. So if the judge gave them permission to wiretap him, that's still not conspiracy. Well, I mean, I don't know if there is that permission. So, I mean, I also don't. Have you seen the wire? Let me put all my cards on the table. Put all those cards on the table. I don't think there was a wiretap. There was definitely not a wiretap. Also, we know how bad a dude Joe Arpaio is. He's a fucking monster who manufactured his own pipe bomb publicity stunt. In this 2004 claim that Montgomery made in this court case,

Arpaio later characterized the result of Montgomery's investigation as quote junk. Oh, so even Arpaio thinks Dennis Montgomery is a fucking idiot. Yep. All right. Then he's the perfect man to come on. Alex Jones. No, Montgomery is not going to appear. Oh, okay. Montgomery is a shadowy figure that's just talked about. All right. So he's a vampire. Yes. Mark are Mike Zulo, who is Arpaio's detective. Who's Arpaio's Danny Zuko. Now car salesman is a guest here that we we're leading up to. I'm telling you, Alex does such an elaborate and super long introduction. Is Mike Zulo at least on screen watching the whole the whole introduction looking awkwardly and uncomfortable? No, because Jerome Corsi is. Oh, good. Thank God. If somebody's not looking

uncomfortable while Alex Jones is introducing somebody, I get real bummed out. I'm not joking at all. Jerome Corsi is hanging out because he just in the corner kind of pacing back and forth. He has hooked things up between Mike Zulo and Alex to do an interview. Right. Blind date style. So he, he is there as like a third wheel. Anyway, okay. So blind date style. At this point, Alex drops a little bit of information that shows that he doesn't have any actual information about the situation that he's going to be discussing. So let's recap what happened yesterday. I love it. Let's recap what happened yesterday. Please do. And and recap that to give them credit, Newsmax and Larry Klayman, who's been at the center of

this. I'm only claiming as soon as possible. They're the ones that got the documents and then they were able to interface them with our Pio that show all this ship. But and they've got a report on the whistleblower himself. It's like another snowed and he was a contractor. So I need that info. I had it last night. I need it. If you don't know where it is, just go to your stage interview with Zulo. He talks about the first few minutes. I need it bad. I need it. Uber bad. He doesn't know what to talk about unless this information is sitting right in front of him because he doesn't know the situation. Of course not. He only knows if he's reading off some piece of paper. What? Meanwhile, he yells about he's teleprompter free. He doesn't know the

story. He only knows if his staff is feeding him information. Let's recap what happened yesterday. He Alex had published a list of people's phone numbers and addresses that was allegedly from this Montgomery, this Dennis Montgomery. Well, let's recap what happened yesterday. I just did. Oh, well, let's recap what happened yesterday. He posted that. Oh, okay. And he thinks it's evidence that Trump is being spied on and that because Joe Arpaio was spied on and that within this massive group of documents that Dennis Montgomery has revealed, but he hasn't revealed the new Snowden. Yeah. He hasn't revealed any of the new documents. Edward Snowden. All that proves that James Comey is a fucking liar. Right. All of this is James Comey is a fucking liar. All of

this is going on and Trump is being fucking railroaded. It's good. Yeah. I like it. So this I wish he was on a railroad where somebody was twisting their pencil thin mustache. What? So once this time, no Dudley do right is coming. Once again, I want to use this next clip to just establish that Alex is specifically talking about Trump stuff and Arpaio stuff as being the exact same thing. What about but stuff? But stuff is in the mix. I think though it's in play. Yeah, it's in play. The second part of the series that Dr. Corsi put up today, published in FullWars.com. NSA document proves surveillance of Donald Trump and his family bombshell discovery shows targets of NSA project dragnet. Here's a Larry claiming article. That's the other family judicial watch

at Newsmax. Nunes must ask FBI, that's the House Intelligence Committee head again, must ask FBI's coming about Montgomery mass surveillance case. And that's the case given to Arpaio that the feds haven't denied with the 47 hard drives over 60 million pages of information much bigger than Snowden cocking out Snowden. But that doesn't necessarily also know like yeah, he's got a mountain of empty hard drives, three by five floppies. He's got a mountain of him. He claims more than Snowden's ever even seen. They claim it's actually 600 million documents. Alex undersold it as 60 million. 600 million documents. The issue is that no one really knows what's on them or if they're even real. How could you? It would be impossible to have

processed any of that information at this point. Even with a couple years lead time, you couldn't process 600 million documents. Now, those couple of issues. Well, I mean, if McDonald's can sell 99 billion. Yeah, I think we can do it in about 10 years. So Alex's proof that all of this is real. Yes, is that his phone number and his old phone number is in this database, along with Donald Trump's phone numbers, which again, we have suspicions whether he actually knows or not. So does not know. Here's a clip of him providing literally the only evidence he gives at any point that this stuff is true. The Super Snowden leaks show Obama spied on Trump, Alex Jones, Sheriff Arpaio. It's all there. How sensational. Drudge. The biggest

news site in the world rated the second biggest website in the world period has had this link since yesterday at four o'clock. Guy search engine, Alex Jones, click Google or search engine, NSA, whatever. As of showtime, I've seen nothing on this. I've never seen that total blackout. They don't know how to respond. Let me tell you, these phone numbers, these private phone numbers, his private apartment at Mar-Lago and all that. These are the numbers. My old cell phone number nobody had. That's real. My old private office. That's real. All these numbers. Real. This is real. They already know that. That's why they're so scared. They're running around saying to the whole world, Trump's insane. No one ever surveilled you.

Why would you have an office phone number that nobody could know? I don't know. It's dumb. Why would you even have an office phone if nobody's supposed to know your office phone number? I mean, you hit the nail right on the head. A lot of this stuff is conceivably public information. It's definitely public information, but even Alex Jones cell phone number, I guarantee I could find it. He probably gave it on air at one point. I guarantee that if I had a tiny bit of hacking ability, I could find his phone number. You can find anybody's private information really easily based on all of the places that you would have dropped it on fucking Facebook. If you ever went to college, all of that information is really easily accessible. Like a bunch of your

addresses. We do know that you only ever went to community college, and I'm assuming he's changed his cell phone since then. Well, right. But I mean, a lot of the, a lot of the, so they have his community college cell phone number. Sure. That could be what he said. They got it. It's real. I don't think cell phones were around back then, but be that as it may. But what I'm saying is a lot of these things, you end up filing information places and a lot of your private information is much more accessible than people think. I've seen tons of news reports about this where just mid level basic hacking individuals, let's say, not even the most evolved hackers are able to find tons and tons of private information about people and not illegally.

They're just able to find it. You can get fucking courtesy calls on your cell phone now. Yeah. They're just selling your number. Like if you've ever gotten a call on your cell phone polling you, that's because somebody sold your fucking number. Yeah. You can ease it. Yeah. All that information is super easy to find. Yeah. The fact that he's using it is proof of an NSA CIA database is cockamamie. It's ludicrous. It could have just been fucking AT&T. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, if we really want to get down to the, like the bottom of it, I'm against that. I don't like the idea that people are selling information, but that's a whole other thing to unpack. That's not what Alex is talking about. Anyway, it was unpacked yesterday. I believe

it. It's not legal to sell all of your information. So here we go. They signed it into law. Here we go. Alex is again, reinforcing his own sort of narrative, but doing it incredibly poorly, because again, this is what he says in terms of like, we have the proof. We have all the headlines. We can show it to you all day long. You can show us headlines all day long, but that doesn't matter. Edit it in. So right before he says that, you say the exact, don't say we have all the proof. And then he says, we have all the headlines. You have to say, we have all the headlines. Then he says, it's perfect. It's perfect. You look like a fucking genius. So anyway, here we go. We're going to get into the actual Zulo interview now.

Zulo is going to lay out a story that unfortunately, as he tells the story, you start to get the picture that he actually doesn't have shit. It's, it's really unfortunate. And the, the title that I gave this, uh, clip is they don't know what to do with the information. You know, to put it in a nutshell, to, to address the question you just asked, we really don't know what is going on. We know that we made every endeavor to bring Mr. Montgomery, his information to federal authorities. Like I said earlier, we contacted Larry Klayman for his assistance. And under the direction of Sheriff Arpaio, we brought Mr. Montgomery to Judge Royce Lamberth, who used to be the head of the Pfizer court.

Judge Lamberth was the Pfizer judge that authorized the bin line, bin line and wire taps in his living room at three o'clock in the morning. And, and we got him there. The dilemma was for all involved is where do we go with this? Mr. Montgomery, during his tenure as a contractor, the FBI, and this is in court documents, had illegally executed a search warrant on his home with fabricated after David's to a judge. And that was all bared out in a, in a trial. I can find no evidence. He did not, for obvious reasons, trust the FBI or want to work with the FBI. That posed a problem for us because the only other place we could have gone to at that time would have been the Department of Justice. And I believe at that time it was still Eric Holder.

That was a problem. So here's why it's a problem for them. Because it's not a thing? No. Okay. Allegedly, all of this 600 million documents is confidential information. So they can't, they can't just go to a lawyer. Yeah, they're illegally holding it. Yeah. He stole all of this allegedly from the NSA. So it is, it is a problem to take it to the Department of Justice when Holder is willing to prosecute you. But also this guy, Mike Zulo, in the next interview that we're going to be dealing with is this guy who keeps coming up, Larry Clayman. The two of them can't know anything about what's on those documents. And if they do, they've committed a crime. That's bad. And so if they admit that they know anything

on it, they have on air committed a crime. That is a pickle. That's really tough. So essentially, that's a fine line to walk. All of these dudes have to, and I believe them, I don't necessarily think that they're, they're lying. They haven't looked at any of it. Or they have. All, no, I think all they're going on is what Dennis Montgomery has told them. So if they look at the documents, they are telling Alex what Dennis Montgomery has told them they say. So we're playing a big game of telephone here. Basically, that's what's happening. Well, it's back to Johnson, that CIA operative who Alex had on the other day who had like third hand knowledge of stuff. Yeah. He's got friends who know sources who are right next to the guy in the

video that where Michelle Obama says the word honky, white, white, really wish that were true. Again, this is, I would watch that on repeat. This is third hand of Michelle Obama saying whitey third hand reporting. Yes. Third hand. Uh-huh. And that's that's why they call it thoroughed hand. That's a problem for them because they can't make an argument. All they can do is speculate about what possibly is in this information based on what Dennis Montgomery has told them. So they're doing everything Alex Jones loves to do. Now Dennis Montgomery, as we've already established his investigation to try and help Joe Arpaio was called junk by Joe Arpaio himself. Yeah. So that's one piece. I can't wait to fucking drop the hammer on this Dennis Montgomery.

Let's do it. I'm not doing it now. Jesus Christ. We need, we need to let it bail. This is the worst hand job I've ever received. Let it build. So at this point, Zulo is going to explain what happened. They took the information to the FBI. I'll let him spell it out. Larry Claimman was successful in persuading Mr. Montgomery to talk to the FBI, which he did. My understanding, you'll have to clarify this with Larry, is Mr. Montgomery brought in a sampling of some documentation that the FBI vetted in return they contacted him and gave him what is known as production immunity. Again, this is based on Larry or excuse me on what Dennis Montgomery has said. Yeah. They wouldn't have done that though if he had stolen those documents. He stole 47 hard drives

and 600 million documents. Yeah. You remember how Edward Snowden isn't allowed to be in the country anymore? Like they just won't do it because then they'll like goodbye forever Edward Snowden. So Dennis Montgomery instead la la la walks into the FBI. He shows them these documents. Check out, check out your documents guys. They let him leave and then he just has been living his life. Oh, I also want to make this clear. Dennis Montgomery at this point in 2017 is like 65 years old. Okay. So he's an old dude. He's not some spry like Edward Snowden sexy. He's young and like it's a fun whistleblower image. Nobody's nobody's right in citizen 64. No, not at all. Nothing against it for being old, but it's like you get in your head this idea

because Snowden keeps coming up that he's like some able bodied young man. Yeah, he's old as shit. Yeah. You know, hackers usually aren't a 70 year old dude, but I do believe that he actually using dial up CDs. I mean, we can talk all the shit we want, but I do believe that this guy actually does have some hacking ability. Okay. But that's only because Occam's razor tells me he has to in order to fraudulently create the documents that have been sent to info wars. And I'll spell that out a little bit later as we go along. So he's a he's nose enough to forge bullshit. Yes. Gotcha. Let's talk a little bit more about the FBI situation. And he brought in, I believe it was like 600 million records. Whoa. He provided them that information.

Some time goes by and they called him back and they gave him testimonial immunity. That's right. It's reported 47 hard drives, 60 million pages of information. I mean, this is just unbelievable. This is way better than anything. WikiLeaks or Snowden never had. And now we're checking the data. It's all real. There's no way this guy had this. These are real databases. No, not necessarily. So, I mean, you know, again, it comes back to like a lot of that stuff is fairly easy to find Google. Some of it could be Googled. So we know Montgomery can Google which is impressive for a 65 year old. That is not bad. No, not bad at all. Yeah. I know a lot

of people who are in their fifties who have no idea. They like, can I bring it? No, you can't bring it. You can't being classified documents. Only Google has that. So everybody knows this. At this point, Zulo gets into another part that actually sounds like it might have some legs. Okay. Is he ever going to not be the most boring person to listen to? No, because Jerome Corsi is still around. Oh, that's true. And David Knight. Good point. So he's going to get into this and it sounds scary, but don't worry about it. I'll be right back on the other side of this to explain. Let us find out different info randomly that he obviously, you know, you know, can't just go and guess what you're going to spot check and what'd you find?

The personal information on a lot of the 151,000 people was absolutely correct, although none of them can identify the bank accounts that were alleged to be theirs. That gets to be very interesting because those bank accounts, it is suspected that they are actually fraudulent transactions. Every one of those bank accounts had accounts in it with high speculative real estate gas and oil stock plays. So we're talking about a lot of derivative, speculative things being done on other people's names. Correct. Alex doesn't know what that is. Nope. And I mean, that's derivative, derivative, speculative things. Things. What does he think those are? Uh, sugar futures. I don't know. Oh, like from trading places. Yeah. The orange

futures. Gotcha. Gotcha. So that is actually a really unfortunate, uh, that they use those specifics because I can trace back exactly what they're talking about. Uh-oh. Found a little Papa Dan found a little bit of an article from the news association in Phoenix that was covering the trial of Ohio. Right. Uh, and so plaintiffs lawyers presented some evidence suggesting that the informant Dennis Montgomery was investigating snow who was the lawyer who was I'm sorry, not the lawyer, the judge in Joe Arpaio's racial discrimination case. Okay. So they found some evidence that indicated that Montgomery Dennis Montgomery was being employed by Joe Arpaio to investigate the judge, which would be very illegal. That's really illegal. Yes. That that

fits with our, uh, judge Arpaio knowledge. So far, who has actively tried to jail opponents who is people who speak out against him, who's caused millions of dollars of lawsuits to be filed because of his dictator ish behavior. He's like every sheriff, uh, in any movie from the south or during the reconstruction era, 40s era movies. Yeah. Uh, so Arpaio insisted he hadn't encouraged Montgomery to investigate the judge. Instead, you would never do that. Instead, Arpaio insisted the informant was investigating bank fraud and the judge was one of 150,000 alleged victims in Maricopa County. Now that 150,000 is important because that's 1000 off from the number that this guy just referenced as the NSA CIA database that it allegedly includes Donald

Trump and Alex Jones. Do they live in Maricopa County? Uh, no. So it seems like it's a decent possibility that that they're repurposing, they're repurposing bullshit information to different bullshit information. Right. Wow. That's, well, we, we should recycle. I think that's a very important thing. Climate change is coming. So if you're going to invent bullshit, you don't want to just keep on throwing your old bullshit away. Use it to grow mushrooms. Exactly. So Arpaio had it's great fertilizer for lies. Arpaio in Montgomery had this bank fraud thing that was cover for him investigating this judge that was trying to pass a racial profiling case against him. Right. Well, and the judge is not actually invested in striking him down. He's hearing the case. The prosecutors

are more the issue, but he's investigating. He's investigating this judge to try and get leverage over him and what have you. But that fits with that. That fits with the kind of paranoid personality that we're dealing with because he doesn't believe that it is never, he always believes it's one guy. It's one guy with all of this power because he's a guy with all of this dumb power. So he can't believe there's any kind of system that will eventually tear him down. Nope. In the same way that, you know, Trump is a dictator who can't understand that laws, he can't understand that laws are real. So this, this part gets a little bit fun here. After the April hearing, Judge Snow ordered that the sheriff's office turn over documents relating to Montgomery's investigation.

These documents include timelines and flowcharts seeming to allege conversations and collusion between Judge Snow, the DOJ, and the law firm of Covington and Burlington, which represents the plaintiffs in the case and factories, the four coats, coat factories. On Friday, plaintiffs lawyer Stanley Young questioned Arpaio repeatedly about Montgomery and presented some evidence to try and show Arpaio knew that Montgomery was looking into Judge Snow and was personally interested in that probe. Both Arpaio and his chief deputy, Jerry Sheridan, testified in this round of hearings, they didn't ask Montgomery to make those documents. Sheridan testified earlier in the hearing that he told the detective and sergeant working with Montgomery not to pursue

the investigations against Snow, Judge Snow. This article goes on to explain that I want to find the exact part because it's fucking hilarious. Arpaio got a fax. Young, who was employed by Covington and Burlington, showed Arpaio. That is a great children's book. Arpaio got a fax. So this lawyer. If you give Arpaio a fax. This lawyer, Young, who is employed by Covington and Burlington, showed Arpaio had received a fax from Montgomery in November 2013 with an early version of a timeline showing events in the Department of Justice's racial profiling case and the racial profiling case in Judge Snow's court, as well as information about alleged wiretaps against the sheriff. On the back of the fax, Arpaio used a typewriter to make some

typo riddled notes. What decade is a fax in 2013 he uses a typewriter on? Are we traveling through time right now? It's insane. He added handwritten notes about possible connections. Type read and hand wrote on the same fucking back of a fax. He hand wrote at least that wasting paper about possible connections between Judge Snow and the law firm of Covington and Burlington. He also drew a picture of a dinosaur. He wrote it. He drew his hand and turned it into attorney. These notes mentioned that former Arizona Senator John Keel worked with the law firm Covington and Burling. There is no mention. Sorry. There's also mentioned that Judge Snow's wife worked there as well, which is not true. The notes read, Snow confirmed by U.S. Senate

Keel on Judiciary Committee on June 26, 2008. Obama takes office January 2009. Judge born 1959. It's all crazy nonsense. Handwritten, scrawled on the back of this. So he's doing numerology. Yes, he's desperately trying to. Yeah, he's just making up and you add those numbers together and it's six, six, six. Whoa. All of it is desperately grasping at straws and clearly Montgomery was not working on a bank fraud case. That was cover that he used. Yeah. A handwritten note also noted, quote, Will Cox's husband in the 150,000. That's the people that were allegedly being targeted. As well as the number of Jehovah's Witnesses who are going to make it into heaven. Will Cox referred to former Maricopa County Supervisor, Mary Rose Wilcox's

husband, Earl. Our Pio said it was a reference to him. Can we just talk about how those are the whitest names in a row? You just Earl and Mary Rose Wilcox. Yeah. Our Pio said it was a reference to him being among the 150,000 victims of bank fraud. That note, quote, totally floored Earl Wilcox, who was seated in the courtroom and saw his own name in the document when it was displayed on a monitor in the gallery. The Wilcox's are vocal opponents of the sheriff. The sheriff's office had tried to criminally indict Mary Rose Wilcox, and she won a civil suit against the county for the baseless charges. So you get a sense of what's going on here. Our Pio is acting illegally all the time. All the time. Super all the time. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. And Montgomery

was a confidential informant in quotes who was actually doing pretty illegal investigations on his behalf. Yeah. So that's the sort of, that's the flavor we've got right now. I promise you this is going to develop and it's going to be a rose petal. Blossoming. I would prefer a Blumen Onion from TGI Fridays, but if you want to do a rose petal, that's fine. So if you want to be poetic, that's fine, but I'm an American. Okay. At this point, the alleged 151,000 people who include Donald Trump, Alex Jones, Alex Jones's old office and what have you. His private office number, his old cell phone number, his mom's birthday, his son's bar mitzvah. Yes. His great grandmother's. She's a slave. I don't know. Anyways, that exact same database that's being

alleged now was used years ago in this court case as alleged information of all people who live in Maricopa County who are being victims of bank fraud in order to cover for an investigation into a federal judge. So that's what's going on. Alex can't, it's possible he doesn't know that. He does not know any of that. All of those words you just said are more words than Alex Jones can understand. Right. But again, you should have boiled that down into a headline and then maybe Alex Jones could understand. Headline, Alex Jones full of shit. There you go. Because you understand that. Alex Jones understands that. You just, you just, okay, here's what you did. Alrighty. You built a case. Yeah. You then gathered evidence for that. I researched pretty

heavily. You put a lot of work and time and effort into all of that points to only one possible conclusion that you can then establish is reality. And I can establish it even further. Now where do you think in that line? Alex Jones would stop. He wouldn't. He'd just the part where you said, here's what we're going to do. You know where he would stop as soon as any like indication that he's not totally right. He just go, la, la, la, la, la, la, plug up his ears. Of course. No way he understood what you were talking about. So here's this next clip. It's Mike Zulo again getting into how they don't actually know anything. So I'm going to, I'm going to come down right now on the side of Alex is being duped because he's an idiot. I think that it's possible. I think that

that there's pretty strong. Well, here's the problem later. There are so many problems later. He's going to talk about how great a guy Joe Arpaio is and he talks to him and stuff like that. He talks to Joe Arpaio. Yeah. So I believe that there is a vested interest in Alex defending him. So I don't know if he's, if he's being duped, he's super willing to be duped. Yeah, but we've established so many times that Alex Jones is always super willing to be duped. And that's true. He is a starfucker. Right. So Joe Arpaio has a certain amount of fame for being a horrific monster, a truly horrific nightmarish pile of garbage human being, but he's famous. So Alex Jones wants to suck up to him in the same way that he wants to suck

up to the fucking nudge. Yeah. And that's what this is. So he's willing to go along. And alleged Nazi Jesse James. Yeah. As well as alleged Nazi Sandra Bullock. Since we've got a lot of, hey now, we got a lot of ground to cover. So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's, again, we, we talked about it earlier. It's basically just Zulu repeating in different language that they don't really actually know what's going on. They don't know what the documents say they, they can't. It's Zulu in Zulu. That's what you're saying. So here is, here, this next clip is Mike Zulu explaining some of Dennis Montgomery's pedigree and where he comes from, which is actually evidence of my argument that he is able to discover people's private information through

techniques he's able to employ on his own. Right. As opposed to Batman, who just kind of hangs out in the bushes. Right. But what did he tell you he was doing? And are you not going to incriminate himself? Well, I don't want to go into too much of what he said. He said it was similar though a contractor like Snowden. Actually, Mr. Montgomery, and this is public, Mr. Montgomery was a contractor who developed the hacking software that could penetrate firewalls of computers, breach them, take over as the administrator and remain undetected for about an hour and a half and download whatever they are. It would for an hour and a half. For an hour and a half? That's the time frame. That's from, that's like, hey, keep them on the line for 20 seconds, otherwise we won't get his

exact location. Exactly. Yeah, that's bullshit. We can mask them for an hour and a half. Why would you build something that only lasts for an hour and a half? Well, because it's a lie. It is a lie. It's 100% a lie. I think it might be a lie. It's a lie. But I do believe that he has some hacking skills. Now, I have done some research and figured out exactly what Dennis Montgomery was doing when he had government contracts. The subtitle of this episode is, Dan has done some research. So I told you about Dennis Montgomery. He in 2000 or in 1998, he founded that company called eTrepid Technologies. Would you call him D Montgomery Burns? Sure. Thank you. We're going to burn him. So like I said, it started out as like a casino tool. You know, we didn't start the fire though.

No, but it's always been burning. Eventually, after they started by targeting the casino industry, they started to branch out and try and get government contracts. Right. In 2003 or thereabouts, right around then, Dennis claimed that he had developed software that would analyze barcodes that appeared on Al Jazeera and he used these decoded information that he gleaned from these barcodes to predict impending terrorist attacks. This is what he developed. So he's a study student of the Kabbalah? Is that what you're saying right there? No, Al Jazeera is a news network and they have barcodes on it. So they have barcodes and he's just, so he's saying that they're planning terrorist attacks through the barcodes on Al Jazeera. Yes. And he has developed a software that

will allow us to predict terrorist attacks. Needlessly complicated. It kind of makes sense. No, it doesn't, but no letter. So on a horse at that point, a gentleman named Tom Ridge was Homeland Security Director, right of the United States. Okay. And he was convinced enough about this software and that it was legit that he used information gleaned from the software to raise the terror alert multiple times. He went so far as to evacuate public buildings and call for flights to be grounded based on interpretations of barcodes on Al Jazeera through Dennis Montgomery's software. That's not real. It is. Don't tell me that's real. It's very tell me we don't live in a dumb enough world to believe that shit. It's so real. That is, that's, that's legit. Like, you

know, is it, is it Kabbalah where it's like they, they put certain letters of each page of the Bible that correspond to certain verses. Weird Bible code stuff. Yeah. Like that whole thing where they predict the end of the world. That's what that is. That's exactly what that is. It's the same sort of logic. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. That makes no sense. Just because I don't want to ruin where this is going to go like this isn't the wind talkers. I don't want to ruin the entire end of this story yet. But a CIA agent who was involved in like the implementation of this technology and it being brought in Jack Ryan, he requested anonymity, but he was quoted later. It's talking about the meeting where they learned about this information as being,

this is so embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah. He tried to fight against it, but there was no use. It was implemented. That's the saddest thing. Hold on. I'll just spell out the rest of this story now because this is why this is why it's so hard to believe in any conspiracy theory is when you find out this shit, you're like, there's no way they could have killed JFK. These people might be fucking stupid. Such incompetence. Has anybody considered that everybody in the CIA is actually fucking a moron? Well, not this guy who said it was embarrassing. Not fucking a moron. But they are a moron. But all the, but when you have a conclusion that you want to arrive at and someone gives you like confirmation by plausible version of your conclusion, why wouldn't like 9 11 was an

inside job. Right. So this guy, his software, Dennis Montgomery, his software is implemented and it's used to make terror predictions a little bit. Hold on. What is it? What does it even look like? Okay. So this is 2003 level software, right? So he puts it in and this is back when you had to use three by five floppies. No, not, not in 2003. CDs probably. Okay. CDs. Yeah. That was, that was my encarta period where you would have flash drives back then too. Maybe. Let's go with CDs, right? Sure. So we're using, we're using, let's call it Windows 2000. You pull up. No, it's 2003. Windows 2003. Well, whatever. Well, it's, it's Montgomery. Let's call it Windows 95. I don't know if it's like MLB, the show. I don't know if there's a new one every year.

It's like mad. Build your case. Okay. So we're using base windows. Our first GUIs and this guy puts in a CD that analyzes barcodes on Al Jazeera, right? Yeah. So that means he's what? Watching Al Jazeera. He's got screenshots of Al Jazeera. It takes him five minutes to download each picture of Al Jazeera and you pull up a command prompt and it looks at, it like does one of those like beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. This software had to have been the exact same level of technology as where in the world is Carmen Sandiego. Without Rockapella. Yeah, exactly. That is, there's no possible way. That was even real software. It's fascinating. That was a random number generator. It's fascinating. That's what he made. Well,

here's what happened. All right. A little bit down the line. French Intelligence and the CIA did a little bit of looking into his software and they realized that Dennis Montgomery was just making shit up. I knew it. Yep. And I know about computers. Not only that, these barcodes on Al Jazeera didn't exist. Where would you put barcode? He just made even that part up about it. So the FBI did. All right. So this dude is a con man of ridiculous talents. The FBI did a counter investigation into Dennis Montgomery and found that he had a quote, long history of fraud. And he hadn't. Of course he did. Of course he did. He had an extensive gambling problem with deep bets. A CIA agent, like I said, was quoted as saying that the whole thing was quote, very embarrassing.

His former lawyer, who represented him at that time, who actually his name is Michael J. Flynn, which is weird because that's Mike Flynn's son's name. It's not the same guy as far as I can tell. That's also Michael J. Fox's first two names. That's true. I think we can rule out Michael J. Fox. There's a lot of coincidences. Although he was basically this character in The Secret of My Success, right? I think so. Yeah. So his former lawyer described Dennis Montgomery as quote, a con artist and quote, a habitual liar engaged in fraud. That's a guy who defended him. Good for him. Yeah. So that's the guy. That's the guy. Somehow, somehow, like I thought he was evil before, but once you find out he's a con man, then I just get like catch me if you can

memories in my head where I'm like, I'm rooting for him. I hope he continues to con the authorities. Boy, I'm not. Why isn't there a movie where everybody like there are too many movies where our Secret Service and our CIAs and our intelligence community is competent when there are so many more stories where they're idiots. Right. Can we have more CIAs or CIA people are stupid? That deserves our public interest though. We like to create and maintain the image that everyone's super competent because it keeps us feeling safe. I would feel a lot better if I knew they were stupid. Jordan, would you like to hear more about Dennis Montgomery? No. I have one really great. Do I have a choice? Yes, you don't. Yes, you don't.

So in 2006, there was a governor's race. There's a gubernatorial race and in it, Montgomery accused candidate Jim Gibbons. This is in Nevada. He accused Jim Gibbons of bribery. He claimed that his own business, E-Trepid Technologies had given him casino chips and $100,000 in cash in exchange for favors. So wait, he just said that he committed bribery? Yep. That was his, that was his like, here's what I did. I'm going to blow the lid off this thing. I committed a crime. You're corrupt and I know it because I was the other end of it. Exactly. Yeah. That's a bad strategy. It's not great. Did he even ask for immunity before Henry? Did he just call a press conference? It's unclear. So he claimed, he claimed that they

gave him all of this money in exchange for favors, right? So Montgomery claimed that he had emails from Gibbons private email, which as we know, Montgomery does not know how to email, but that proved that he was, he was not lying about the situation. Gibbons said that the emails were fake and had been created by Montgomery. In court, a computer expert testified that he must challenge the authenticity of the emails. Yeah. The court case was thrown out and 18 month FBI investigation concluded that Gibbons did nothing wrong and cleared him of all charges. 18 months. 18 months. A US, our intelligence community is actually dumb. They're thorough though. Yeah, sure. A US house ethics committee investigated the charges as well and found no wrongdoing.

Now, why is this case super important? It shows established Dennis Montgomery is a liar, an idiot, a con man and willing to falsify documents. Super willing. There is an indication that was born out in court that he has fraudulently created documents. And so now we're citing his documents on the Alex Jones show now further for different shit. Now further, the other case where he created this fake software and was shown to be a hoax gives and the FBI investigation showing that he is a history of fraud. Right. All of this shows that he is a complete liar. He has no credibility and in court has been shown to create false documents. And he probably committed some crimes. Probably. No, you committed a crime. If you, if you accuse that dude of committing a crime,

you then say, I also committed. Yeah. Isn't that a crime? Sure. But it turns out in court that crime didn't happen. So Montgomery is off the hook for bribery because he didn't do because he didn't bribe him, but he, he committed fraud or libel or prison for making false statements. Yeah. But I don't know how he's not. It's no, it's at least perjury. If there was actually a trial, he would have had to testify that. And if he had testified that, then that would be perjury. He would have perjured himself under oath. Maybe he, unless when he went to trial, he just said he didn't do any of that. He could have like made these claims in a, uh, like a court case is initiated and then he never said anything under oath. He could have done that. Exactly. But that's

what he had to have done. Probably because of course, if he had, then he would have committed a crime and he would be in jail. Yeah. So this is the guy who's the root of these allegations and this fake database that Alex Jones is citing as evidence of himself and Trump being spied upon. Right. It's clear at this point that that is not true. It's absolutely not true. You have kicked more ass on that story than anyone has ever kicked. I promise you it's not done. That is, that's, that's an expose that you just did that no one will really ever hear. And no one cares. So you know what? The reason that they're complaining about how the FBI is making no moves on this stuff and there's a media blackout, but what we're talking about now is why there's a

media blackout. You just, no one gives a shit. This guy has no credibility. Like what was the, yeah, you just, you just kicked it. You just kicked the ass. You kicked all the ass on this story. Again, it's not done. We still have to get to Larry Klayman. Yeah, but seriously, listen, this is amazing. This next clip, uh, is, so we're still in the Zulo interview and Jerome Corsi, who has been silently a part of this the whole time, butts in to try and vouch for the situation that's going on. Jerome Corsi is kicking in and I want to play this clip, uh, just as a little, another side argument I want to make right after I want to say, look, I've worked with Mike now for since 2011. We worked together and I want to say that bikes, as honest as they come,

he did not want, he does not want to be doing this. I mean, we've been working on this for days and actually a couple of weeks and Mike, it's like, you know, pulling teeth. He has other things to do. He's not even in the sheriff's office anymore. He's a used car dealer. He's a life to lead and you know, family to take care of. He doesn't need to be doing this and it takes great courage for him to do it. I'm telling you, Mike speaks the truth. It's carefully put together. He's not going to tell you something is so. Sure. The audience knows that. Here's why I played that clip. He's desperately trying to provide credibility for Mike Zulo. Right. But he doesn't realize that if you look at the history of Jerome Corsi, that's a liar vouching for your credibility,

which actually hurts you because Jerome Corsi, as we've laid out in the past, has written a book about Obama's birth certificate being fake. Yes. He was also a member of the Swift Swift boat veterans boating. Yeah. So he is that. So when he comes in and says, this guy is honest as the day is long, to me, that means, oh, we just both have the same propaganda goals. That's all he's saying. Anyway, we're gonna get him looking and being like, dude, I love this guy's lies. We have one more clip. That's so good. We have one more clip of Mike Zulo again, spelling out very clearly and very overtly that he doesn't know anything. There's no information that he has. And in this clip, he even let slip that he can't even confirm that anybody was ever wiretapped, which is kind

of unfortunate for the outrageous claims he's trying to make. Well, on chair for Pio's account, if the timeline and I'm going by memory, so I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna give you dates. But my understanding is this alleged wiretapping, and you have to understand, I have to say alleged because we can't verify it. But the alleged wiretapping. Just like you see a duck swimming around a pond, but you haven't gotten it for DNA testing. You can't say that's a duck. You know, there's a, it looks like a mallard has a green head. It's got, it's got orange feet. It's eating moss off the bottom and swimming around. But we think it's a duck. Tell us more about what a duck is like. And this is when they were pursuing a chair for Pio under a criminal charge. That criminal case was dropped.

And at the same time, the individuals that were propelling that case moved over to a private law firm and then out of the clear blue, a civil proceeding ensued. This is talking about Covington and Burling. Again, this is basically what we covered earlier. Code factories. But also, let's be clear. Alex is trying to say that like, if you don't have DNA testing, you can't prove it's a duck. The expression is, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck. So he's going the other direction with a duck metaphor, which I think is fascinating. I love it. But also, again, I love his, I love the idea that he walks around with his son in the middle of a forest being like, Hey, that's a deer. Hold on one second. We're going to need a blood sample. A son fucking prove

it. Yeah. Prove that's a duck. You son of a bitch. I caught a trout. Fuck you. And also, it shows that Alex Jones has a higher standard of proof about like what is a duck than anything else he talks about on a show. It's like his standard of evidence is glaring. So we're going to leave Mike Zulo now. That has been his time in the sun as it were. I don't necessarily have a ton against Mike Zulo, except to say that I found evidence in an article. He's part of the Joe Arpaio thing. I hope he gets hit by a truck. Sure. That's enough. Done and done from the Phoenix sold from the Phoenix new times. I did find an article about the case against Arpaio. And it's interesting that Mike Zulo was called to testify and he invoked the fifth amendment. What a shocker.

He pleaded the fifth against self-incrimination in court, which means, I mean, you're not always guilty when you plead the fifth, but in this case, it does seem to imply if he wants to go out there publicly and talk about how there's a railroad in case being done, it seems to imply if you're in court, you'd want to provide the evidence and go over this. If you plead the fifth, it kind of means that you're afraid of what might come up. I would argue, oppositely, my advice to anyone who is under any kind of trial, do not say a goddamn word. I agree with that. That's my advice. Now, whether or not he's guilty, he's guilty. And whether or not he should be in jail, he should be. And all of those things, that's fine. But I do think it is smart to not say a goddamn thing to the cops.

Ladies and gentlemen, so now at this point, there's one thing I can tell you. Don't snitch. No snitch. So at this point, we transition our investigation and we go to how Alex ended the week. He had this gentleman who's come up a couple of times, Larry Clayman, as a guest on the Friday episode of the show. Meanwhile, throughout the week, he was yelling about this evidence and how it proved everything that he's been saying is correct this whole time. They have a database that has me and Trump in it. So now he has Larry Clayman as a guest. Here is the introduction of how he brings him into the show. And the world's greatest claymation artist of the world, Larry Clayman. Exposing if there is spying going on against the president and against Congress,

it's been in the news for years. The CIA spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Now they've come out and Congressman Dunas has said, no, I've talked to the experts and a little bird told me one of the experts might be joining us on air, but I'm going to leave it at that here in just a moment. Larry Clayman, legendary Larry Clayman. Yeah, but was the bird a duck? We can't prove it without DNA testing. We can't prove what little bird it was. But here's where we get into where this is extra. Could have been a swan. When Devon Nunez, yes, presented this new evidence that he got from Trump. No, he didn't. Oh, he didn't. He got it from Larry Clayman. Larry Clayman. That's what Alex just said.

And in this interview, Larry Clayman says as much, do we have any evidence that Larry Clayman would have talked to him at all? Only based on Larry's word and speculation on this episode, but I do believe it in some ways because the history does bear out. There is, look, I can't, I can't prove that these liars aren't always lying, but Oh, only if only, but based on Larry Clayman's telling of it, he had been trying to get this information to Devon Nunez for quite a while and succeeded recently. So all of this stuff where Trump feels like he's been facts. I wrote it on the back of that fact on typewriter. I type wrote a fax. I threw, I threw a paper airplane in the direction of DC. I have been doing everything

I can to get this information to Nunez. Again, that's Montgomery, not Clayman. Yes. But we, as we can establish, those are the only forms of communication that Alex Jones and his ilk respect. One thing that's important to lay out here is that Larry Clayman is Dennis Montgomery's lawyer now. The former lawyer called him a con artist habitually engaged in fraud. Yes. Now, Larry Clayman is his lawyer. The two of them met through Joe Arpaio when Joe Arpaio was being represented by Larry Clayman and Dennis Montgomery was the confidential informant. So we're having a wonderful romantic comedy right now. This is the meat queue. Yeah, absolutely. This is what this is. All right. They meet each other right next to a water fountain. Yeah. Accidentally bump into

each other. We take a slurs to do a love triangle. We take a slight break from all of this information that we've been laying out in Larry Clayman's introduction. Alex Jones realizes that you got to pay the bills. Now we've got Larry claiming on who's just so many victories against Globals won the big case against the NSA to help expose the stuff that was going on years ago. The only case out there where we've had a victory. So we're going to be talking to him in just a moment. First off, we're listed supported. If you don't buy the products, first off, you're crazy. We have the best high quality toothpaste back in that's organic fluoride free with oil, silver and the iodine, the tea tree, the peppermint, all of it. Super blue to my dad,

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it's online. So here we go. Alex Jones now gets into the full on bio of Larry claiming and I'll be back in a moment. So Larry claiming joins us one over his whole bio. It would take too long, but everybody knows who Larry claiming is. No one knows who Larry claiming is a duck. No one knows who Larry claiming is and he doesn't go over his bio. So I will. Would you like to know, would you like to know some fun facts about Larry claiming following claimants behavior in a 1992 trial in California federal court? Judge William Keller barred claiming from his courtroom for life. Hold on. Five years later in a separate case in New York, claimants behavior led then district

judge Dennis Chin or I'm sorry, Denny Chin to issue a lifetime ban on the attorney practicing law before him. Well, Denny Chin sounds like he's in the mafia though. Two judges, Denny Chin. He's over a two federal judges have barred him from practicing law in front of him for life. Claimant has written about his dealings. Can you even do that? Yeah. Is there anything you can just do? You can. You can just be, if you're a judge, you can just be like, nope. It's essentially an extreme version of holding someone in contempt. Yeah, you can. Absolutely. Do you at least get to say he's out of order first? Of course. So claiming has written about his dealings with Keller and Chin claiming that Keller

acted quote erratic and was quote obviously drunk at the bench. I don't believe you. That's awesome. I don't believe you. That's the best way in 2007. Claimant received a $25,000 retainer from a Daytona beach woman facing criminal charges and she accused him of not providing legal services in return. The Florida bar association mediated the matter and Claimant agreed to pay off a small portion within 90 days. But after that day off that 90 days after that deadline passed, uh, he didn't pay. He was reprimanded by the association. That was it. Yep. They were just like, Hey, dude, stop it, bro. He's filed at least. No, you don't have to pay her, but come on.

He has filed at least 18 lawsuits against the Clintons, ranging from accusations of racketeering to a bunch of shit about Benghazi. Okay. In the wake of the 2016 shooting of a Dallas police officer, I was multiple police officers. Excuse me. Yes. Claimant filed the lawsuit against Obama, former US Attorney General Eric Holder, the nation of Islam's leader, Lewis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, and some founders of Black Lives Matter movement, alleging they had quote incited a race war that led to the shooting. Claimant amended the complaint to include Dallas police officer, uh, who was shot as the plaintiff and Hillary Clinton and George Soros as defense defendants. Funnily enough, I mean, this is super weird, but I'm reading off your screen,

uh, former San Antonio Spurs star, Tim Duncan. I don't know how he got in there, but he is part of the conspiracy. Claimant just wanted to meet him. It's implied that case was dismissed. Oh, it was? Who would have guessed? I'm going to list off a lot of cases and all of them have been dismissed. Can you just keep doing that? Yeah, apparently. Like nobody's going to stop you? Apparently. It takes a lot to get disbarred. What is it? What is, what even is being a lawyer if you can just do that? Does he have, is anybody paying him for this? Also, James Carville, the rage and Cajun called him like a jackass. Well, somebody had to in 1998. Claimant sued his mother for $50,000. Did he win? Seeking reimbursement for medical care provided to his

maternal grandmother. After Claimant's brother told Newsweek magazine of the lawsuit, Claimant alleged that the Clinton White House was responsible for the magazine acquiring the information. Nope. It was your brother. That's a stretch. That's a stretch. He did. He was unsuccessful. So he's just an insane person. Yeah. In October, 2014, Claimant sued the Obama administration, claiming it secretly allowed the Ebola virus to enter the United States. No, that one, I believe. So it could be used against Americans. Totally true. Of the, quote, Caucasian race and Jewish Christian religion. Can't imagine any, any other possible explanation. I think he's right on with 2010. He sued to try and block the, quote, ground zero mosque. He was involved in that.

Love those lies. In February, 2015, Claimant filed a defamation suit on behalf of Dennis Montgomery, who is just like a divorce lawyer. What does he do during the day? I think he's a media whore. Yeah. Well, yeah. But I mean, he's got to have it. Like he is a legit lawyer. Yeah, I know. But like, what does he do? He's probably a sleazy lawyer who I don't know. Who knows? Listen, is he an ambulance chaser? Is he like, okay, I'm going to sue Obama, but right after I get you this settlement on your car crash. Listen, show up in a cast. I mean, probably. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a better. Yeah, I bet he's pretty great at it too. He's an inveterate liar and he's super good at that. So here's where he dovetails a little bit with Dennis Montgomery. He filed a

defamation lawsuit on behalf of Dennis Montgomery against James Ryzen, the author of a book called Pay Any Price, Greed, Power in the Endless War. The lawsuit alleged that Ryzen falsely described Montgomery as quote, the maestro behind what many current and former US officials believe was the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in American history. This is that software we discussed earlier that alleged to be able to predict terrorist attacks that was based on nothing. So that's such a solid bullshitting. But Dennis Montgomery, how do you how do you get to be that good of a con man that you can just make that shit up? I don't know. Just like here's it and it couldn't have even looked like like that's the thing about computers. I don't think he would

possibly have been able to show the software to anybody. He wrote a fake software thing, but because people don't have that computer savvy, they're willing to be taken in by it. Yep. Like they're just like, oh, this is why we can't have old people in power anymore. They don't even like we can't do it. Nope. We get like they they don't even live in the world we live in anymore, right? They're they're unaware. The like the DNC hacking was not some sort of complicated movie hacking. It was Podesta clicked on a fucking link. Yeah, like that's all it was. That's like there's no real hacking going on like what people think it is. It's just these guys are idiots. The hack itself was the least sophisticated part of it. The bot farms and stuff like that is far more

complicated. That's amazing. Yeah. That's that's really good stuff. But again, all of this stuff exists because the people that we have in power are old and out of touch and pointless. Sure. Let me get through Larry Klayman's bio here because Alex refuses to get through the bio. We're still there. There's more. Well, you know what? Alex was right in saying that he did not have time to get through that. We do. Yeah. So Klayman on behalf of Dennis Montgomery files this lawsuit of defamation. Yeah. In 2016 in July, a federal court dismissed that lawsuit. Right. It was appealed as I as I understand and that appeal was denied. That's that's kind of like I believe Marine Le Pen, the French prime ministerial candidate, fascist lawsuit. Yeah. She is legally a fascist according

to the law. You can and will call her a fascist. Well, there's that's a great lawsuit. There's two sides of that lawsuit. One part of it is that she is legally a fascist. Yes. But then the other side of it is that one of the judge's findings was that you can't consider it defamation when you're in a political sphere. Yeah. Like just describing someone's political beliefs isn't defamation if there is credibility to it. All I want to hear is that in a court of law, she is a fascist. Larry Klayman filed at least three lawsuits claiming that Obama was not eligible to be president because his birth certificate was fake. Okay. He tried to defend Cliven Bundy as his lawyer. Good work. As we all know, Cliven Bundy is a crazy person. Yep. As is Larry Klayman.

He tried to be as is Montgomery. He tried to be Cliven Bundy's lawyer, but the judge ruled that he Klayman had been dishonest about his history of being censured and disciplined by past courts, and he had no clearance or standing to assign himself as someone else's lawyer. So one, that means Cliven Bundy did not want his help at all. Probably not. And two, I would actually go the opposite direction where the judge was like, Jesus, man, you said you have been censured more than you actually have. Why are you claiming to have been censured by 20 judges? It was just a couple. I'm a victim. Yeah, exactly. On October 13, 2013, during the U.S. government shutdown, Klayman declared at a conservative rally in Washington, D.C. that quote, this president is

not a president of we the people. He's a president of his people. Whoops. That's probably racially charged. Very racist. He urged the crowd to begin a quote, second American nonviolent revolution and demanded that President Obama quote, put the Koran down and figuratively come out with his hands up weeks later. Hey, put the Koran down and get some chicken in you. Jesus Christ, you need to eat weeks later. Klayman sponsored a quote, reclaim America rally in Lafayette Square across from the White House calling for the president's removal. Klayman stated that if Obama was the first American nonviolent revolution, I can't think of one. I think I think we've had a lot more of the non nonviolent revolutions. Klayman stated that if Obama did not resign, conservative activists

would meet to establish a quote shadow government. Whoops, bad use of terms. Considering that now all they talk about is how there's a shadow government. He's threatening to create one. Yeah. Anyway, I would like to see him try. Klayman had to get invited to those meetings. Klayman had encouraged quote millions to occupy Washington DC, but reported attendance to his rally was between 130 and 200 people. So not great. Also they're going to talk about this and Alex already referenced it a little bit. He won a court case about so we're talking about his win. We're not talking about as many and varied and magnificent losses. Yes. We're going to talk about his win. Yes. Okay. Good. He had a court case called Klayman versus Obama, where he was

trying to contest the legality of bulk collection of phone and internet metadata. Good. That's a good one. We can agree that a lot of that shit is dubious. Like a lot of that stuff is, is pretty a lot of his illegal. It's pretty fucked up. A lot of it is horrifying and a police state and so on and so forth. So he brought this case in front of a judge and the judge and the judge did not laugh at him. Here come the judge. Did the judge not fucking Google him? This is why we can't have old people. If you're a judge and you Google this fucking guy, wouldn't you just be like, no, get it? Go, go, go, go. And then you would, you would be, if the judge would have a broom and just like shoe him out of the courtroom, right? Like it's, if you can Google, that's what you

should do. So he, it was in 2013 and US federal judge, Richard J Leon, he ruled that bulk collection of American telephone metadata likely violates the constitution. Agreed. He had insanely legitimate concerns about how this program could violate people's fourth amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure. And it does. And it should be stopped. Right. And it was. Well, yeah. Publicly, it was stopped. Right. And that actually comes into the ruling. Yeah. Because it was ended before this way before that. But so he rules in favor of Clayman and the guy whose last name is strange, which is kind of fun. They were the two defendants or plaintiffs. I can't remember. And the original trial was held in the astro plane. Yes. Yeah. That makes sense. So they brought

this case and the judge agreed with the arguments that metadata collection violates the fourth amendment. But what he did in his ruling was to say, I suspend my judgment for six months to allow the government to appeal because the government is going to appeal this. Yeah. So in his ruling, he said that he made an injunction that any metadata collection regarding strange or Clayman had to stop and every bit of information that had been collected about them had to be destroyed. Yeah. But he stayed his ruling for six months, allowing for appeal. So what he means is that during that six months, they can still collect their metadata. No. Or during that. No. If he's suspending his ruling, that means that nothing has to change for the next six months.

If the government doesn't respond, then the ruling stands. Exactly. Well, the government did respond. What a shocker. And basically, the appeals court found that because the program had been ended, they didn't have a responsibility to rule on the legality of the fourth amendment claims. Yes. Secondarily, they found that there's no evidence that could be provided that Clayman or strange actually were spied on at all or had their metadata collected, and therefore they had no standing in court to bring this case. So even though the government did collect bulk metadata because they couldn't prove their metadata was collected, they're kicked out. Well, because they can't represent the entirety of the American people.

Part of their argument was that they are Verizon customers and that the government had admitted that they collected Verizon metadata. But the thing is most likely their metadata was collected. Hold on. The government admitted that they collected business data through Verizon, like Verizon business customers, not individual UNI cell phone owners. They collected things through a different part of Verizon's business. Now, I admit this is dubious. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that defense at all. I think it's sketchy as fuck. Yeah. But I do think that based on the law and based on, like I'm telling you, I read these court

decisions. Yeah, I know because you're a lunatic. And I don't think that they, the decisions were wrong. I think the appeals court was right. He didn't have the standing. But at the same time, the conclusion is correct that metadata collection is an unreasonable search and seizure. Yes. So he was right. And they've probably stopped it. Wink, wink. Well, I think, I think it has in a lot of ways. Yeah. I don't know who cares. I just don't trust it. I just don't trust it. Based on all the information we can find, it has stopped based on what we're afraid is actually the truth. It hasn't. Yeah. So anyway, Larry Kleiman is right on that count. He had the right idea. He's wrong about everything

else. Yeah. His claims that he beat the NSA in a court case is wrong. He had a case where they agreed with him or they were inclined to agree with him, suspended judgment and then appeals court shot it down. Anyway, let's get into it. Let's enjoy this. You're so tired. You're exhausting yourself. This is the most work I think any human being has ever done. Yeah. Here's where this next clip is where Larry Kleiman. I love sitting on this side of the table. This clip, Larry Kleiman tries to do a little bit of a dance or he has to be sure that he has not seen any of the information. He's this guy's lawyer, but he hasn't seen any of it. Okay. We on Sunday via some other folks that work with us published some things that have been out there

in federal court showing that Trump was being surveilled. Kleiman is separate from that. He's not involved in that. He was involved though getting that CIA whistleblower basically to come forward. And so he's been trying in the system for a long time to do this. He's also the guy that has won against the Supreme Court Court. So he's separate from that, but from a different angle. Newsmax.com. He also has had his articles and things published there. I apologize. That was Alex trying not to implicate himself and Larry in the dance. So you're right. I am exhausted. It's been a long weekend. Yeah. So here is Larry breaking down what he sees as Montgomery's case. Yes. I've kind of prefaced things. Correct where I'm wrong. Well, whatever. Just let's get into the

meat and potatoes of a classified case you're involved in. Dangerous to get into, but really is a Rosetta stone or a skeleton key to so much. Yes, this is important because Dennis Montgomery is really kind of this successor to Mr. Benny. We just had one and I take my hat off to Mr. Benny as well. Actually represented him for a while going back as a whistleblower. He had Benny the technical head of the NSA. Oh, okay. I got you. As we know, he spouted a bunch of bullshit. And also on this episode, he had as a guest, some guy whose nickname is Tonto Speranto. I don't like any of those words you just said. He's a guy who survived the Benghazi attack and Tonto Speranto. He's the hero of Benghazi. And he was, he was, you know what? He came off as

fairly reasonable, but also pretty aggressive. And at the end of the interview, he said like, Hey, you know what? If people are afraid, like if they want to arrest George Soros and they're afraid, I'll do it. I'll go in. I'll do it. So Alex later uses that as like, he's like, Hey, Tonto Speranto was on. He said he's ready to arrest George Soros. He's like, well, that's not quite what he said. He just said, if you're afraid and we should arrest him, I'll go in and do it. I'm a Marine. You know, and so he's like, he thinks that he should be arrested. He's ready to go do it himself. They just being held back. Is Tonto Speranto a real Marine? Yeah, he's survived Benghazi. Do we know that? I don't. No, I do. There's a movie about him. Like he's a real dude. Oh,

he's a real dude. I can't remember. He survived Benghazi. I can't for, I can't remember. And now he's going on Alex Jones's show. I can't remember his first name, but he goes by Tonto. Well, I'm against it. I'll be honest. He seemed like a pretty decent dude as far as Alex Jones is guessed to go. But yeah, but that's a low, low, low, low. He has probably been kicked out of only one court and never allowed to be there and for Applebee. So in this day, he's had Tonto on. He's had William or Richard Benny, William Benny. Can't remember his first name. Now he's the technical head of the NSA. It was mostly Muslim baiting stuff. Yes. And then now he has Larry claiming on. So that's who he was referring to in that. We've had a lot of guests recently.

He has to man. He's, he's scrambling. Yeah. Wow. He's scrambling. Also, you can kind of hear it in his voice. He doesn't have the, he doesn't have the fire. He's losing it. He doesn't have the heart. I don't know. I hope maybe next week we'll be different. You know, this, this week, he started with the, at the end of the week that we're covering right now, which was last week when you're listening, you know, he did his big pizza gate apology. Maybe that could reinvigorate him a little bit. We'll see. But anyway, here we go. Back to claiming. But Dennis Montgomery was an NSA CIA contractor and he left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives over 600 million pages of information, much of it classified again.

The only evidence we can find of him being a contractor at all is creating that software that analyzes Al Jazeera. It's questionable whether in that capacity he would have access at all to 47 hard drives or 600 million documents. If he, if he did have all those things, that's pretty crazy. And he must have been going way outside of his way. Right. In order to get those things. Yeah. I mean, is massively illegal. Yeah. But I don't know. It's all, it's all the bad things. It's all the bad things. And so here we go. This next clip is Larry Clayman coming in much like Mike Zulo and really trying hard to make sure that people don't think that he's seen the documents. And I felt that we needed to take him to sources in government who could do something

that could listen to what he had to say because much of his classified, I can't see it. And we needed to put it in the right hands. So I went to a federal judge by, let's be clear, you had it, but you wouldn't look at it. I didn't look at it. He had, he had the 47 hard drives. I never took possession of 60 million pages, 600. He committed a crime million. I didn't. And what he told me was on there was that there were surveillance on the Chief Justice of the United States, other justices, 156 judges, President Trump, when he was a businessman, other prominent businessmen, and yours truly Oprah, the amount of Oprah Winfrey. So let's let's take a stack. Let's take a second and take a step back. The only time that he could have possibly had access to NSA CIA

documents is around the period of 2003. That's the period of time when he was involved and was massively discredited. Yeah, he was thrown out with prejudice. Yeah, the FBI did a counter investigation on him and found to be a fraud. There's no way he would ever be able to get any sort of clearance after that. No. So in 2003, 2004. Unless. I'm listening. That, that Al Jazeera software did work was in fact a Trojan horse. Interesting. Have you considered this right? So like Captain America, SHIELD. I'm listening. Or the, which is the other one? The acronym? The Avengers? No, no, no. The bad guys. Hydra, Cobra, Hydra. You're talking about G.I. Joe now. Hydra. Okay. From the very beginning, like from the very beginning, because the Al Jazeera

software was on there, Montgomery has pinpoint accurate information from every level of government because he is actually the guy who originated all of it. See, now Occam's razor tells me you're right. I don't like it. Simplest explanation. Obviously that's the one, but the point is he can't possibly have information stolen. Of course not past that date in the early 2010s. He's working with Joe Arpaio and he has this database of Maricopa County residents. Yeah, that are being victims of bank frauds, which is now being repurposed as people who are being spied on including Trump, Alex Jones, all this shit. Well, before we even go any further, 600 million sounds so fucking made up. Where do you get 600 million documents? Like genuinely,

what area of the government other than maybe that bulk metadata collection system would have anything close to 600 million, anything. And even if it was the bulk metadata, that's not documents. That's just point by point GPS location and that kind of shit. Yeah. So where would you get 600 million documents? And it would be, like I said, from 14 years ago. Yeah. And I mean, like, is there even that much information in the fucking library of Congress? Probably not. Like in the archives of all the stuff. Yeah. 600 million is a made of, he might as well have said one Cajillion. I have one Cajillion doc might as well have. Yeah. And that's obvious bullshit. And again, an important point is that Larry claiming is coming out as a lawyer, uh, being on Alex Jones

is programmed to discuss this stuff that he only for legal reasons. He is coming on as a private citizen, but he only has secondary knowledge of, he has no idea what's actually in these documents because it's illegal for him to know it's on the dock. Exactly. It's much like Roger Stone saying his doctors said he had polonium poison. Yeah. They can't refute that. Yeah. It's illegal. Dr. patient. Yeah. Yeah. How it's these same games that are so it's propaganda. Even then, even then, right? You got 600 million documents. You're not going to take a look at one. Come on, man. I don't know. You got to take a look at one. You got to, you got to get a taste of the coke to make sure that it's real. I'd be so scared. Right. I'd be, you don't, I'd probably run away. You don't, you

do not. Well, yeah, that's why you don't buy my drugs. Dennis Montgomery comes up to me. I scream and run the other direction. I'm like, I don't want any of these 47 hard drives. As everybody knows, you take your coke, a pinky nail, you put it into the coke, you make sure that the coke is high quality. So at this next clip, yeah, this next clip is a claimant confirming that he did in fact discuss things with Devin Nunez. Chairman Nunez last Monday said, come forward with information. And that's what we've done. And we've told them. And I'm glad you said it because I have another sources. You're one of six sources Nunez has, including NSA, CIA, you're an outside source that cooperated what he was already being told. He's obviously know all this, but they stonewall

in the agencies. But now you have whistleblowers because it's the president. They're lying about him. So they should do this coming forward. And so, and so now Nunez is, is, is next to you and others able to say this. So either all of this is just fantasy world lies and all that, or there's a possibility that he did in fact talk to Nunez. And that's where he got even more terrifying. And that's where he got a lot of this information that has led to this very confusing period in our history where Nunez is acting up and not certainly not acting as the House Intelligence Committee chairman should know he should be fucking destroyed. And if he is acting in fact on this information that has its roots in someone who is a complete con man engaged in habitual fraud,

well, and even Dennis Montgomery, even then Nunez himself came on again and said that documents show no indication of wiretap on Trump Tower. I think Nunez himself walked back all of this bullshit. I think it's like a zigzag of Nunez being shook because there was that thing that came out the other day about Flynn, the, the meetings that he had with the Turkish ambassador about extraditing this Gulen guy who Turkey Erdogan wants to be extradited because Erdogan believes that this cleric was responsible for the coup attempt, the fake coup attempt. We can't prove that the coup attempt was fake. I'm pretty sure it was totally fake. So he wants this guy extradited and the United States does not believe it would be appropriate.

And Flynn was being paid to help extradite this guy. Right. That came out that the meeting between Flynn and the Turkish ambassador was also attended by Devin Nunez. He was also there. Really? Yes. So. Now with the, with the information we have. He might be complicit. With that, because now we have information that maybe Flynn has turned states evidence. Yeah. At this point on Sunday, when we're recording this, it's still not sure. Nobody's confirmed anything to come out any day, but there's indications and sources, anonymous sources are indicating that he might have cut a deal, which again, I, you know, anonymous sources are anonymous sources. Take it with a grain of salt.

Fucking Alex Jones has anonymous sources. So that doesn't mean anything. No, but the timeline kind of suggests that maybe this is a possibility. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's possible. It's not proven. It's not definite. And the hard part to the only part that's hard to swallow about him turning states evidence is if you look at all of this shit, everybody would go down. Yeah. So either there's genuinely the entire government gets taken down from top to bottom. Not everyone. Not everyone, but like a shit ton of people in power. A whole lot of the right. Or it's not as big a deal as we think it is. Or it's somewhere in between. It's hard to say. I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. But the reality is that

like all that stuff that isn't, we can't prove, we can prove that Nunez was in that meeting with Flynn and the Turkish ambassador. And that doesn't look good. Nunes is in the fucking balls of Trump. That's what it is. And Nunes is given Handys with a little bit of prostate stimulation to Trump every possible chance he can. And there is that documentation of him disappearing the night before he went to the White House. Yeah. Apparently meeting with somebody. Like there's a lot of stuff that's real fucked up. Yeah. So no, every the entire the entire American government should be shut down for a while. My thought nobody should be allowed to do anything. My thought is that I don't think he was meeting with Larry Klayman that night. But some of that stuff does relate to this.

I think he was actually meeting with Larry Flint that night. It's possible. It's entirely possible. Is he dead? He's dead. I don't know. He's probably dead. He's one of those guys who I don't care if he's alive or dead. So I have no idea. He's done good works. Great. But what I'm saying is essentially that a lot of this stuff that Nunez's behavior while not singularly motivated by this Montgomery information, which we've pretty clearly, I think on this episode shown to be bullshit. I don't think I don't think it's possible to be much clearer that it's bullshit. But I think that part of his behavior was influenced by Klayman and the Montgomery information. Yeah. Also, the conspiracy theory community is a flame. There's a lot of like on

the blogs and on the message boards. There's a ton of stuff about why are people investigating Montgomery? I just did. Yeah. Suck it. Well, this is even more this is kind of even more interesting is that like we we denigrate the conspiracy theory blogs and yet at the same time it's hard not to look at reality and go some kind of conspiracy is happening or there's been such a confluence of idiots happening all at the same time in this weird coincidence that and that's that's almost as likely as anything else. I think it's just as like like with the Montgomery thing, right? Yeah. Those idiots believe that shit. Yeah. Like it's just as likely what's going on right now is that everybody's just fucking stupid. Well, or there's a fucking conspiracy

pushed by Russia and all this shit. I think that you've touched on something important that I've been wanting to bring up for a while and I'll just deal with sort of slightly. And that is that as we talk about how much of a liar Alex Jones is and all this stuff is bullshit, I don't want to paint with a broad brush all people who believe in conspiracy theories as the same. They're not. There are a lot of people who are very smart and do real good research. The idea that we would be denigrating the entire conspiracy community by attacking Alex Jones is unfair. And I think that it's easy to make that assumption if we're not clear about it. There's a lot of people who also believe Alex Jones is full of shit, but believe in conspiracies

and God bless them. There's there are those people chemtrails got a chem. Sure. But there are there are not stupid crazy people in that world. Unfortunately, there is a lot of stupid crazy people in that world and we fall somewhere between. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So this next clip is Larry claim and explaining why this is a matter of immediate importance. This is something that has to be dealt with now or never exactly like how we need to finally get to the bottom of Obama's birth certificate now or never. And I will file three court cases about it. It's kind of time to go public, you know. Well, yeah. And we want to do it in the right way by bringing on your show. In front of people, but this is bigger than stuff. This is 600 million. I know why you've been. Yeah.

Right. Right. Because there's so much there. And here's the real bigger than your six note Montgomery could die as a brain in yours. He needs to be interviewed immediately. For those that are puffing out. Put him on the road. He's willing to come for his wrist is light. This guy's a hero. He's risked his life. He's come forward. You know how a brain aneurysm works right? Like at any point in time, any of us could just die from a brain aneurysm. I'm dead. Yeah. That's that's a nonsense thing. Yeah. But it's not like he has cancer. That's like he could die from a lightning strike at any moment. He needs to be interviewed right now. But again, it's just trying to create a sense of immediacy about it. It's also trying to

create sort of a tragic hero story around this obvious liar. What possible reason could you have to interview him now? I'd like to interview him. That's a good point. If we could get Dennis Montgomery on this podcast, I'm in. I'm in. See him on all of our emails because I got a lot of questions. A ton of fucking questions. So this next. What's your perfect Sunday, Mr. Montgomery? That would be my first question. That would be our first question. First date. Bistro or movie. Why did I say Bistro? I have no idea. I've never been to a Bistro. What are you talking about? You know what happened? I legitimately think I flashed back to like French classes. I think my brain just like, yeah, are you doing before midnight at us? What is happening? I love that

movie. Of course you do. I also love Richard Linklater, which is so confusing that he puts Alex Jones in two of his movies. Anyway, if Richard Linklater is out there, I'd love to talk to you too. Talk to you about how interesting boyhood was, but it wasn't a good movie. Anyway, this next clip, Larry Klayman gets into talking a little bit more about Montgomery himself and brings in the Joe Arpaio situation. So enjoy it. But there's no proof. I looked him up, but just a minute or two on Montgomery and why this is so important and where we think this database came from. That's right, Janice. I mean, excuse me, Alex. People have tried to destroy his credibility. That's what they've done with President Trump from these agencies. And that's what

they've done. We have done that. It's so easy. We have successfully done that. It's so easy to destroy his credibility. We didn't even try to destroy his credibility. I mean, you did. All it took was like a couple Google searches. Again, Google. And just a couple, like just read a couple articles. Like it's not that hard. You find this guy is a massive snake oil salesman. He's a fraud. And if he wasn't being used for propaganda purposes, I agree with you. He would be fun. It would be fun. It would be like, is he going to make it? Is he going to pull this off? Yeah. There's always a part of me that's going to be on the side of the guy trying to fuck with the FBI. I think that there also is an archetype of that like down and out two time loser gambling

loser kind of guy who's just like trying to pull one last score, one big score that's going to solve all of his problems. We're, we're, as our culture, we're all ingrained to pull for that. Like we all want to see the little guy strike out against the system. Yeah. And it's unfortunate that this little guy striking out against the system is being used propagandistically to support the system. Yeah. It seems like we all want a Robin Hood and they all wind up being not Robin Hood. Well, it's Robin Hood who's working for the Sheriff of Nottingham. It turns out. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's all. Anyway, here we go. The murderous monstrous Sheriff of Nottingham. You know what? We got to get back to Sheriff's being the most important. Anyway,

that fucking nonsense. The, the Sheriff's movement, all that stuff. Oh, I hope. That's for another day. No, fuck everybody. This reporter, this hack reporter, James Ryzen of the New York Times. Hack reporter. That's the guy who wrote the book about, that involved the fraud that Montgomery pulled. And again, Larry Clayman as lawyer for Dennis Montgomery sued this writer was unsuccessful. The case was thrown out of court. Of course. So now he's coming on Alex Jones and saying he's a hack reporter. No, he's not. You failed. You know, smear him, but that actually confirms that he is the guy that you need to talk to because he knows where the bodies are buried, no pun intended. And sure, when somebody's getting demonized nowadays, especially, you know,

that's not a pun. That doesn't count as a pun. And in terms of what happened after Arizona with Sheriff R. Pyle, I represented in a, in the successful amnesty case that knocked out Obama's immigration where our file wasn't served well by his lawyers. That didn't happen. That didn't happen. With regard to Dennis Montgomery, he somehow got dragged into that, which is why we're proceeding on a separate track. And I sympathize with Sheriff R. Pyle and he's a great man. But Alex Jones, there's like, I've talked to him. He's staying out of this. He's staying out of this. If you say R. Pyle is a great man, I automatically wish for your death. You lose all automatically wish for your death. Yeah. Like legit, you do not belong in this world.

You 100% don't, or you're not, at least you're not in touch with your own humanity. You're a sociopath. But then Alex being like, I've talked to R. Pyle. He's staying out of this. R. Pyle said that Montgomery's investigation was junk. That's a good reason to stay out of it. So now I want to bring this back to this Phoenix news article that I was talking about earlier. Right. And I want to, I want to just play this out. Again, remember young is the lawyer that's trying the case against R. Pyle. According to reports presented in court in November 2014, two outside experts with expert experience with the NSA evaluated Montgomery's hard drives for the sheriff's office and concluded that Montgomery was quote a complete and total fraud.

Young brought this young brought this up in court to R. Pyle quote quote at least by November 2014, you knew Dennis Montgomery was a fraud. That's the question that young asked quote, that was putting it lightly or Pyle said that was putting it lightly or Pyle said noted they had been working. They had been working Montgomery for a year at that point quote so we decided to stop paying him young went on to present email records showing members of our Pyle's team were still in touch with Montgomery for months after that into 2015 quote would a law enforcement officer have to be incredibly stupid to continue working with someone known to be a complete and total fraud young asked our Pyle's attorney John Masterson objected to the question

which Judge Snow sustained how can you sustain that I mean it's it's leading okay it's leading technically that is leading yeah technically that would be conjecture yeah however no I'm gonna go with yes the answer is yes as humans it's a fair question in court it's dubious probably not probably not so after court Masterson accused young of insulting the sheriff young group uh reminded our Pyle that Judge Snow had asked him in April whether Montgomery had investigated Judge Snow and our Pyle never brought up the timelines which again were the faxes with the weird type rating on the back or other documents Montgomery had made that included Judge Snow quote I never thought of that timeline when he asked me the question our Pyle

said quote do you regret not telling him those things in April young asked quote in retrospect maybe I should have brought it up but it never came to my mind at that time our Pyle said uh man this is yeah so fuck you so the idea that our Pyle is staying out of it is really not really relevant he's admitted in court that this guy is a complete and total fraud yeah but also admitted that he kept working with him or his department kept working with him yeah after he was shown well he's a genius after NSA uh investigators evaluated his hard drives as a fraud now this is again this is like the Marie Le Pen fascist situation you should be allowed to prove in court that our Pyle is an idiot I think it is a legal imperative the only reason

I disagree is because under it's it's irrelevant like that I don't think it's irrelevant if you were to bring a court case specifically designed to prove that he's an idiot then it's relevant but because it's a contempt of court case uh it's it's irrelevant to the matter at hand that's why the court has to dismiss true are you an idiot which I I still love that the although in the eventual death penalty trial that our payo should be under Jesus you probably shouldn't prove that he's an idiot unless you're in Texas in which case you can still execute him yeah uh so at this point claim once again guys you should execute Joe Arpaio I don't think he doesn't deserve it I'd like to see a court trial though oh man like I don't be executed I don't want any violence to

happen to him except for sanctioned because of his actions don't believe in the death penalty believe that he should be executed again I want to be clear that me and Jordan know a ton more uh than is on this podcast and please look into Joe Arpaio's history yeah it sounds like we're being severe based on what we've talked about in this podcast not even close real talk we had to edit some stuff out I nearly cried I'm not joking you almost not joking I was and almost fainted we had to pause I had to go outside and walk around just based on how bad a dude this is and he didn't even get halfway through that shit yeah so please look into that uh again Arpaio's a monster uh but we have to get back to the matter at hand which is this interview with Larry Clayman where he insists that all his

shit is credible yeah and then beyond that he goes to lay the blame uh for what uh like the Trump spying and all this shit on people who are no longer in office the current predicament is the fault of people who have not been involved for quite a while ah shadow government go through this well that's what I when I was weeks ago talking to Corsi he talked to the White House and so did I they all know it's real we're like get Montgomery in or make a press conference and then they're just we'll check and I don't know what's going on but I don't know why that hasn't happened because well don't trust the intelligence agencies to give you the truth because as Mr. Benny just said they lie okay I agree with that I want to be clear generally I agree

yeah that's that's a generally true statement a lot of times you got to take things that intelligence agencies say with a grain of salt if somebody says anonymous sources within the government you should probably be aware that there is a reason those anonymous sources are sharing that information but sometimes generally not to share the truth sometimes it's manipulative sometimes it is people protecting their absolutely confidentiality so I mean like it goes both ways sometimes it is legit sometimes it's not but you should definitely know in advance that there's a very you know the I would say 70 30 manipulative the message I think that is most important is that intelligence communities do lie to people a lot of the time but sometimes they don't I mean it's technically

their job you should look for evidence yeah you should look for truth as opposed to believing or disbelieving what things are said to you right everything just take take things as they come to you look for facts have a knowledge I've realized legitimately legitimately that was that was the smoothest you've ever been legitimately it's the wine that's we're drinking storyteller wine we are drinking story yeah you're right you're right legitimately I'm getting to the point where I'm realizing that if I ever want this to take off I'm gonna have to start mimicking some of Alex Jones's behaviors so I'm going to start with it look for facts you dumb fucks but meanwhile our listeners are really awesome and they're really cool yeah I don't think that you

guys are idiots maybe a couple oh Jesus no I don't know what's wrong with you I'm just assuming we have like just like statistically what are you trying to do the people that I've communicated with seem really awesome but I gotta assume there's some dumb dums in there I listen what are you doing right now this is the wine guys guys we've had a we've had a rough podcast from time to time I have just learned more about Joe Arpaio and you'll understand where we're coming from I've just blamed the wine for me being smooth and for me lashing out at hypothetical listeners this is great this is why we don't record on Wednesdays Wednesdays is dance therapy day yeah anyway here we go back back to this where he blames like clapper and what have you I'm sorry

for putting your personal business I think I've done it in the past myself so it's a bunch of covering up you have two very corrupt people under the Obama administration that run the director of national intelligence clapper who's a certified liar who lied under I was about to say why are these people still in Trump needs to get rid of all he got his certification from Trump University well Trump needs to get rid of all these dudes who are no longer in office it's time he got rid of him clapper is not yeah but it's time to get rid of him gotta get rid of him yeah first gone John Brennan former CI director John former he's I like how always former corrupt as well he tried to destroy Trump I mean he didn't he just I think the example that Alex keeps going back to is that

clapper well who's gone uh John Brennan who uh was also gone he's gone now yeah but he when Trump got elected uh in between him being sworn in he said that he should watch his mouth he should be careful about the things he says right which I mean sure which is such a childish way of doing it's a little sassy motherfucker watch him out yeah I mean talk shit get hit yeah it's the kind of uh message don't snitch I get I get where Alex's interpretation of it being like hey boy watch your mouth that kind of thing I don't like the way you said that look I know that boy has racial connotations that's not that's not it that's not in play that's the wine talking again it's not in play I get where Alex takes some umbridge at that but I also would understand how anybody who's in

the intelligence community recognizes the stakes of the president running his mouth yeah how you can piss off foreign powers accidentally as Trump has done as he's done a couple of times well he didn't even fucking shake Merkel's hand like a pussy so but he can do these things to insult foreign powers that are our allies that who we have deep deep blood filled alliances with and he can insult them and you should watch your mouth you should be really careful what you say you should use diplomacy now there is a reason we have a department that is entirely devoted to diplomacy and there's a reason you fill that department with people who can be diplomats who are diplomats instead what he did exon guy was put an exon mobile guy in there who actually has been quoted as saying he didn't

want the job and his wife said do it you should do it yeah and then they have not staffed that department nope definitely not with any career diplomats nope everybody is confused yeah angry frustrated and now the press aren't involved and now the head of that department is saying hey we might fucking bomb North Korea yeah we're not having a good time of it no our foreign power you know like it's it's strange to be so obsessed with domestic policy when we are bombing the shit out of Syria yeah killing more civilians than we've killed in so long repeatedly non like it's not even defensible that there are military targets when we've offended so many of our allies when we've fucking threatened so many countries at this point this is why the wine is necessary

this clip is Larry claiming saying that everything in the world essentially is obama's fault excellent if you follow the evidence here i'm certain that president obama sitting on top of this he must have known again he's actually windsurfing on top of it right now again he's talking about all this information that montgomery has that he hasn't looked at from before obama was president so again he's sure that it's all obama's fault probably he hasn't looked at any of it uh-uh so great i take your word for it Larry claiming guy who is clearly incredible master of claimation i'm sure he directed it sure they always direct everything they're totally command and control but i thought it was above obama he didn't who do you think who gave the order originally

above obama soros it had to go to obama ultimately okay i mean you can blame it on the minions but the buck stops on his desk what and i want to make one other point out in other countries of the world israel brazil other countries they hold the top executive accountable they do as an internal prime minister we've never done that in israel and brazil in other countries it's kind that's a super unfortunate that's such a weird list of and it's a dumb example like israel apartheid country brazil recently had a coup you know other countries the good ones the ones where they hold their leaders responsible benjamin netanyahu has never been held responsible for any of the war crimes that he's committed and the brazilian president is literally not allowed to run

for president he is legally barred from running for the job he currently holds yeah that he obtained by purely illegal means so he uses these two countries as an example to make a point about how obama who's not long is no longer the president needs to be held responsible for bullshit lies that he's peddling on alex jones's show right and then alex is like i totally agree it's so stupid it's so stupid it's incredibly it's insane like you could probably it's the fbi buying software based on al jazeera's barcode stupid yeah it's right up there it's oh it's it's an italian cuisine of stupid that's the last clip that i have from larry clayman's interview okay if you want to know more about him uh and you want him to speak his piece check your local library yeah uh he probably

has written books i didn't look into that but if you want to hear his entire argument laid out i will link it on the website he has an article that he wrote in newsmax that just lays out his entire argument about montgomery uh it's all lies but at least if you go there it's basically all the stuff i cut out from the episode right because it's just boring and a lot of it was covered by mike zulo yeah so like a lot of it is just repetitious uh here is a fun clip uh clayman doesn't say anything but this is alex jones just trying to uh really desperately make you believe that the people he has on his show are real just to just not sesame street puppets like claymation okay these guests 99 out of 100 are accurate none of us are perfect but we try to tell

the truth we try to get it right no you don't but sometimes you know if the innocent or those that are questionable get harmed we have to also admit we've been wrong fake pizza that's all this is about but our hearts are the right place they're trying to change the world i hate you yeah so i mean like your guests are 99 accurate fake pizza gate apology i legitimately don't know how you would quantify what percent your guests are accurate but i know that if there was a system 99 percent is ambitious there's no way even for a reputable news site 99 seems ambitious right i think the most respectable news sources that i trust have maybe 80 yeah yeah i was gonna say 75 percent is amazing to me i'm saying that's why i said maybe yeah maybe and that's hot yeah i like i said i told you on

the last episode i've been reading foreign policy right and a lot of your wank i'm a wank a lot of the stuff that i've been reading in the area it seems incredibly credible i've looked into uh things that are cited and right absolutely it backs up uh so like but i still think that they get things wrong from time to time yeah of course it's every citizen's responsibility to take in media and news and then evaluate it that's your responsibility it's not the media's responsibility to write every time when they're wrong it is the responsibility to to own up to it exactly and to write a correction and to make sure that everybody knows that which places like the new york times washington post these sorts of uh establishment uh institutions do on a regular basis they do

they perhaps don't do as loudly as maybe they should yeah but they do it yeah but people are the most part it's unfortunate because this weekend again alex jones came out with his apology about pizza gate his bullshit apology but he doesn't apologize for things that he says nope he he never does and this pizza get apology is not evidence that he does apologize no because even packaged within that apology is a defensive is yeah and it's throwing other news organizations onto the bus it's like hey they said it we're reporting on it right what do you want to do we made a mistake but our mistake was really trusting other people it wasn't us uh doing not doing our due diligence yeah and if they had done any due diligence they never would have reported

any of that nope because it's bullshit and i i'm not even a news outlet and i did my due diligence about pizza gate you did it truly this episode is not about you did way more due diligence than a lot of media outlets we're about to wrap up this episode but before we do i have a couple more clips that are just kind of fun uh this one oh god i needed those this one uh gerome coursey has been he wasn't on the phone during the claimant interview right this goes back to the he was again just sitting in the corner singing uh zippity-doodle yep slightly racist disney song right so this one uh is i don't know why that came to my head it's a good song though if you take the racist part out of it zippity-doodle zippity-day my oh my what a wonderful day that's fun anyway

let's not unpack let's let's not unpack tar baby and uncle remiss all right but uh so gerome coursey was in the background essentially for the entire mike zulo interview and then once mike zulo gets off the phone alex jones has got to kiss uh gerome coursey's ass for a little while so he says this clip he says this clip and it's one way of looking at things and when after the clip i'll explain the better way of looking okay i mean and your articles are all so powerful and either from high-level leaks or or the white house you're pointing out what needs to be looked at notice everything you write for us everything else we write gets picked up in the news everything you write a total blacklist which shows you are really on target my friends i want to thank you

cuck cuck cuck well his his argument is listen everything we write everybody looks at everything you write nobody looks at nailed it that's how on target you are nailed it nobody wants to read your bullshit yeah yeah hey that's like a that's like a bullshit ad for him right everything paul joseph watson does everyone loves that yeah but stuff you do everyone ignores i mean it must mean you're super on target yeah you're you're like a conspiracy theorist conspiracy theorist or it might mean that you're widely discredited even in wonky yeah conspiracy theory community even though you're saying wonky i don't mean wonky like policy wonk i mean wonky like not function like like having a wonky leg yeah exactly yeah i got you it's unfortunate that it's the same word i

realize now but like well i mean so far we've seen that paul ryan's wonkiness is wonky it's it's absolutely him malfunctioning it's perhaps broken uh so we have one more clip uh left to play and this is what i would like to call the parting shot uh generally i like to try and come up with something that uh really sums up uh the feeling of things right so i have not done that so if you don't want to listen to two and a half hours of us talking tl dr feel free to go to the last five minutes where you will have a good clip for um but before we get to this clip let's just give a slight insomation of everything we've covered yes monsters liars frauds idiots everybody involved with the alex joneshow is all of those things yes that's pretty much what we've covered i think you

did a good uh real brief summation i'm gonna try for a little bit more do you want more explanation you gave the bones you gave the bones i'm gonna put a little meat five five so the meat on that bones is that joe arpaio is a complete monster he is uh guilty of racial profiling deserves the death penalty so much worse um he is absolutely terrible he was not being wiretapped by any information that is publicly available deserves the death penalty he had a confidential informant named denis montgomery yep who is a proven liar fraud has a history of fraud catch me if you can has a history of trying to set up people with fake documents uh and uh clearly is lying yep his now lawyer larry clayman is a complete islamophobic bigot he has tried multiple times to have

frivolous lawsuits against liberals kicked out of two courts forever uh for life for life uh was not allowed to be cliven bundy's lawyer which is crazy yep uh and so these are the characters that we're dealing with alex jones takes this third hand information about an alleged wiretapping uh project dragnet that's been going on that allegedly has his phone numbers which again as i said spelled out earlier montgomery could easily get that information from very mild hacking which he has shown through his typewriter skills people talking about him uh and his history has shown that he is capable of those things at the very least can write basic software in 2002 yes so what we have here is alex jones either willingly or unwillingly being tricked by and also mike

zulo is an accomplice to joe arpaio's crimes against humanity yeah at very least and probably deserves but life in prison but probably could get you a good deal on a hundi an amazing deal probably oh so alex jones uh handshake deal alex jones in cash wouldn't even need to write it down alex jones has done no research into any of these things or if he has he is truly 100 trying to lie yes in a way that we have those are the only two possibilities in the way that we have always had that kind of spectrum going back and forth if alex jones has done any research into these people then he is aware 100 percent that he is lying and peddling a false narrative yes if he is not which to me seems the more likely situation because again all of the work you've done all of

the research you've done seems like something so far beyond anything alex jones is capable of it hasn't taken me that long though exactly to be honest and that's the even more pathetic part of to be honest we're not getting paid for this show no and i have a nine to five job it actually is generally an eight to six job so like i'm i'm at work a lot of my life and i can't be spending time researching i have not been tearing my hair out researching this it's exactly it's been pretty easy to find most of this information and that's that's kind of more again it fits within alex jones and what we know of him that he would not have done even the most cursory of research if someone comes to jerome coursey and says i have evidence that trump is being spied on

jerome coursey is going to write up an article and alex jones is going to just implicitly believe it no matter what yes he's not going to do any research into exactly figuring out is this worth me posting on my site not going to do any of that work and because he doesn't and because jerome coursey is so so uncredited so unethical he just brings this bullshit into the house right so and now is jones is happy to yes to me i fall on the side of alex jones is the village idiot not the uh mafia don in this particular circumstance that's interesting i don't think he's willfully misleading people in the way that he would be if he had done any research into any of these people now see here's where i disagree with you just on a slight technicality yes i think he willfully

doesn't do the research because a part of him knows that if he did he would invalidate his own beliefs your objection is this is sustained thank you thank you counselor yeah permission to approach the bench uh never in fact you're kicked out of my courtroom for life um so realistically what we what we end this with is trump was not being spied on in the way that's that's it that's where we have well because like if we just said that because ended the podcast right there because that's the narrative that alex was pitching the entire week the idea that his phone number and trump's phone number and all that was part of this database right is absolute lies which we've which we i think firmly established and it took it's like there's a web of things that's built

upon it he spent a week on this he had multiple interviews with people propping up this lie it's complete bullshit and nunas himself has confirmed he's at least no evidence and trump was wiretapped but in the meantime nunas is at least incredulous of this evidence he's at least been tricked in some way his behavior was altered by some of this information nunas i would actually argue is on the evil side is on the evil spectrum i agree willfully lie especially in order to protect again in order to protect trump but in the same way he's hitching his wagon to what he thinks won't get torn down boy like it looked pretty good a couple months ago yeah exactly right if you were going to like just 50 50 horse race here what's blue sky this thing who do you think you would rather

hitch your horse to right now paul ryan or donald trump right that's that's a sophie's choice it really no it's the reverse of one i want to kill both of my children i hate my children yeah no that's that's a no-win situation i don't want to hitch my horse to either of them but if i had to but if you had to choose you'd probably go trump yeah oh man i i'm still gonna go with ryan here i would go trump but real casually just because i don't want anything to do with paul ryan i would fuck trump once every couple of weeks real cash stuff you know it's like a hookup i think trump is a trader yeah but somehow i think paul ryan is worse paul ryan is absolutely worse so i would go i would go with trump but but i'm talking more about my neck out for either of them pure survival i'm not

talking about who's the who's the more monstrous right because i hope both of them get hit by a truck then you go ryan right exactly i think ryan is going to i mean i will see and then we go back to more of a cockroach we go back to the health care bill right i would have before the whole health care bill i would have said that ryan was capable of outmaneuvering trump yeah because the health care bill was maybe the most unpopular thing ever introduced into congress yeah and he still put all of his energy into it maybe just maybe paul ryan is an idiot it's he's not a wonk he is definitely not like his reputation is being a guy who is smart is gone it's also interesting though because i don't i don't know really uh i i've not done deep research into it but i did

read an article about how trump making a hard sell on the health care bill ended up losing them 10 votes yeah i would believe that he went in and tried to negotiate with folks and it like a used car salesman and it worked negatively yeah so it's possible that paul ryan maybe could have pulled it off without trump's blustery tactics look we don't we can't yeah we can't we can't do that it's impossible now that one's not that either way we have one more clip and this is alex jones talking about uh i mean this is just great okay all right let's get to it i'll just i'll just let it play let's let's get some dessert on this shit this is absolutely dessert okay this world being so unstable if they bring down trump what they're trying to do

they're trying to demonize him before they kill him you need high quality storeable foods i know i've increased the amount i've got people keep thinking oh go back to sleep trump's in oh yeah get ready worry will you do this once a year i'm doing it every few months now it's 30 to 40 off all the high quality storeable foods that are fresh i just heard america about my patreon supply alex jones showing his true colors oh my god that felt so good they're gonna kill that was the catharsis i have wanted for months now they're gonna kill trump hey you need food you need food you're gonna need it anyway what about oh god anyway dan let me ask you a question let me answer a question for uh where would you find us if you were looking for us uh well i would say that the

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really it really does make me feel like i'm uh part of something whenever people review this and like it you know it like there are plenty of podcasts also by the way remember when i was complaining about someone leaving a four star review yeah i went back and checked i think they changed it to a five oh no i don't know dan dan you're a bully i'm sorry you're the alex jones a knowledge fight i'm so sorry no here's here's the weird thing you get overly defensive i get way overly sincere like oh guys i you touch me it is very nice though it is it is truly i mean whatever those sincere feelings that you're expressing i definitely feel too but i have a stony visage yeah it's it's hard it's hard because feeling like part of the resistance or whatever it is

uh seems very futile at times we're resistance to something we're trying yeah you know it's hard it's hard to try it really is like looking at the protests in russia just this day jesus uh you see those people who are far that's real bravery hard far more brave than anything i can imagine because ever just going there it has a very real possibility of killing you yeah it truly does and you just see massive swarms of riot police making lines in order to shuttle all the protesters into a building and they are they are any of those people could they look like fucking robo cop like it's ridiculous so so just to feel like i am at the very least putting the smallest amount of what i can into it because i'm so confused about how to actually join that all we do is is you know all

we can do is again encourage people to you know call your representatives do everything you can that's uh that's a small thing it's very easy to do and you should donate money to the aclu or any other cause that you support 100 do whatever it is you can that's what we want to encourage people to do that's what we do and then beyond that also and i'm guilty of not doing this all the time because i'm kind of a crank but like it does go a long way just to be nice to people yeah that is a really important thing as our country descends further into into the hunger games into the hunger games we live in the hunger games as we descend into really scary territory it is important that you'd be nice to people so try try try to see the humanity in your fellow and the

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and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you