Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 592: Josef Fritzl Part II - The Family Downstairs
Episode Date: October 4, 2024The boys are heading back to the basement for part two of the story of Josef Fritzl and his daughter Elisabeth, whose nightmare had just begun when after four years of living as his prisoner-wife in t...he cellar beneath the Fritzl home, she gave birth to the first of seven children to be fathered by Josef - of which only 6 would make it out of the cellar alive. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes and get exclusive access to bonus content.
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There's no place to escape to. This is the last time. On the left. Why, you've got your glaze.
That's when the cannibalism started.
Who was that?
Um, oh, do it!
Oh, wow.
Just gotta ease back in.
You know, I just spent
the last two days
reading the thoughts of Joseph Fritzl.
Mm-hmm.
And I gotta say, I feel confident.
Right.
I feel changed. Do you feel honest?
I feel up front with me.
And I really
think that everybody should go in there.
If you want to learn
No, we have a lot of new dads in our life. Yeah, and I feel like if they really want to learn how to keep a tight knit family
You really should read the words of Yosef Fritzl and talk about the joys that you he's
Experienced watching his children open presents on Christmas and they would all rejoice with the first snowfall
of the season.
He writes this long flowing thing about his favorite thing, the nutmeg, smell of nutmeg.
And it's a-
That man was one of his daughters?
Welcome to the Last Podcast of the Left, ladies and gentlemen.
My name is Marcus Parks.
I'm here with Henry Zabrowski.
I hate my daughter.
Red hot Italian pepper burns my nose.
You gotta run out of names at some point.
And the eternally spicy Ed Larson.
Yes.
To prepare for this episode, I've been sleeping under my bed.
Just get the vibe. Yes, to prepare for this episode, I've been sleeping under my bed.
So when we last left the Fritzl family, Elizabeth had given birth to the first of her seven
inbred children while still imprisoned in the underground bunker that her father, Josef,
had built.
No, no chaser, no beginning, no palate cleanser.
I'm fucking-
First sentence.
Yeah, man, I'm fucking diving anything. First sentence. Yeah, man.
I'm fucking diving right into this shit.
She'd been locked in Fritzl's dungeon alone for four years and still had almost 20 to
go.
And by the way, there's no way to like slow roll into a Joseph Fritzl episode once you're
already in it.
No, you could say stuff like, you know, you think you're sick of your mattress.
You know, like stuff like, you know, you think you're sick of your mattress. You know, like stuff like that. You can go be like, oh, you know, me when I got bed rotting is taken to a new extreme
in the Joseph Ritzel story.
He could be the guy for sleepies. Sleepies for the rest of your life.
Now, as we said, chill up my spine. It's the first time that song ever said an actual chill
up my spine. As we said last episode, this was Elizabeth's second pregnancy, as the first had ended in
a sudden miscarriage because Elizabeth was so unhealthy and depressed because her own
father had gotten her pregnant.
Likewise, this new child named Kirsten, she almost didn't make it either.
She suffered from epilepsy and cramps that resulted in screaming fits that no doubt echoed
at ear-splitting levels in Elizabeth's 15-foot-by-15-foot concrete prison.
But even though Kirsten was obviously born sick the most Joseph Fritzl contributed to child care were formula and diapers
Which he bought at different stores far away from the town of Amstetten to avoid suspicion
You know it's good and I could see him doing the our former president style
Like when he went out of Puerto Rico for the hurricane being like
Okay, have fun shipping
Now wouldn't it draw more suspicion to buy from multiple stores well
From one place you're still buying baby formula in diapers. Yeah, you're just showing up with diapers to another store
That's weird. Hey, no, you got a specific specific ass baby babies are pains in the asses that way you know they only one shrimp flavored
formula yeah well I think you would buy all of them like in a clump but not go
to the same store like multiple times because you'd it'd be weird if it's like
oh here's the grandfather coming to buy the formula and the diapers once more. You know, just to alleviate your suspicions, this is all for me.
I am runny as hell and I lack my food as soft as an egg.
But I hate eggs!
So yes, congratulate to me. I'm my own grandpa. Like the song.
The thing about Kirsten though is that the child gave Fritzl even more control over his
daughter.
After Kirsten was born, Elizabeth did whatever it took to keep her alive, and with each successive
child, Fritzl's control only increased.
To that point, just a couple of months after Kirsten was born, Elizabeth was pregnant again.
In late 1989, she gave birth to her second child,
a boy named Stefan. And like Kirsten...
Is it Stefan?
Stefan?
I think it's Stefan. I think Stefan, you know, we all... it's the associations of the name
that I can't get past. I can see you coming out with a, like a duck tail grease, like
haircut, like little sunglasses.
Okay, Stefan. We'll go with Stefan.
Well like Kirsten, Stefan's birthday was written down on a piece of paper so Elizabeth could
keep track of her children's ages.
But while one might think having two infant children would make a lot of noise that would
be heard above ground, Fritzl had built his dungeon with extreme skill when it came to
keeping it hidden.
No one heard anything that would have made them think,
hey, sounds like the backyard's screaming.
No, I'm pretty, it's a new, it's Noise Rock!
Yeah, it's my new album called Sounds of Unpleasantness,
and I've been working on it for some time now,
it's stuff like Gargling While,
my favorite track is Gargling While,
Drowning in the top
Actually my friend Adi who you know co-op he's a co-owner of the Reykjavik grapevine He has a noise rock outfit called AMFJ and he used to sample his infant daughter screaming for
his songs.
People in Brooklyn loved it.
Yeah, I bet they did.
Oh, this is almost like having your own child.
The story that Fritzel had told when Elizabeth disappeared that she'd ran away to join a
cult, it was still working extraordinarily well.
Most people who had known Elizabeth simply forgot about her, and when her siblings were
old enough to move out, they did, and tried their best to forget their time under Joseph
Fritzl's thumb, and therefore forget their sister Elizabeth.
Yeah, these are definitely people who are like, ah yeah, I don't talk to my family.
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, just quick, that's it, enough, and I don't want to go into detail
about it. Enough, and I don't want to go into detail about it. But it sounds like they almost in a way viewed Elizabeth as like succeeding in getting out
and getting away.
The only child who was left behind was Joseph Jr., who actually went through a very light
version of what Elizabeth endured.
See Joseph Jr. had an unspecified learning disability that kept him from living on his
own. So Joseph put him to work as a houseboy and personal servant, only allowing him to leave
the Fritzel home once a week.
Oh, so he had two prisoners.
Yes, he had two.
That's the incredible thing is that Joseph Jr. is never talked about.
And the book that we used for the series, Secrets in the Cellar, mentions him very briefly.
But no one mentions, like he had a mentally handicapped son
that he kept as a house-slave.
Jesus Christ, I mean, it's so hard to teach him to make sushi.
How are you going to get him good at all the various different cuisines you want to try?
Austrian sushi sounds like the worst thing you could ever have.
Vienna sausage wrapped
in kuchen noodle and honestly it sounds delicious. It's shrimp thrown against a wall. That's
how I like it. Good and long. But as Joseph Fritzl's children were leaving home upstairs,
Elizabeth was giving birth to more kids in the dungeon. Three years after Stefan was born, Elizabeth gave birth to her third child, Lisa.
Now the 15 by 15 foot room was holding two toddlers and an infant, so Elizabeth begged
her father for more room so her kids wouldn't have to watch as she was periodically raped.
But since Joseph Fritzl either couldn't help but be evil or couldn't be bothered to pitch in aside from the actual construction
He forced Elizabeth and the children to do most of the labor to expand the dungeon
They dug out a tunnel from the dungeon to the house's original 1890 cellar with their bare hands. It took
Years, I was gonna say those are tiny hands. Yeah
Hands and also very weak at the same time.
Extraordinary.
I do a chunk at a time,
like literally just going down and just moving it ahead
inches at a time, inches at a time.
And he'd come and he'd take out the dirt
and like scatter it around like the backyard.
That's how little they were getting done.
Like each time, it's just like scatter it.
It's very short shrank.
Yeah, very much so so now as a digger
How long do you think it would take you to do this? Yeah?
Let's say I have you in an underground subterranean bunker, and I'm making babies with you right all right
What are you good? You're making in defiance of God in nature. You're making babies with me
No, it's because it shows that I'm right
The fact that I can make love to you and a baby is made means technically my actions are correct we use the great Austrian Arnold
Schwarzenegger to show us how to give a man can give birth to a baby
actually all the run together it goes back to the beginning of Austrian history Adolf Hitler who had one nut and then the other baby even
reported one of his nuts and then it goes directly to Arnold Schwarzenegger
pregnant with Danny DeVito's child.
I cannot give an accurate answer
because I do not know what kind of soil I will be digging in,
and the kind of soil I will be digging in
would change my answer drastically.
One word, Eddie.
Construction guys never give a straight answer.
Eddie, one word, evasion.
That's all I'm hearing.
Sounds like you're running up the tap.
Yeah, I don't know, I think I, you know, obviously once I'm hearing. Sounds like you're running up the tap. Yeah, I don't know.
I think I, you know, obviously once I'm done breastfeeding her, I can kind of, I can see
this taking three or four weeks.
Quick!
But Elizabeth would only have two pairs of hands to help her dig, because in May of 1993,
Fritzl told her that he was taking her youngest child Lisa upstairs to be raised by him and
his wife Rosemary.
This was a bold move for a number of reasons, but in the end it actually helped Joseph's
cover story.
Fritzl made Elizabeth write another note saying that while her parents may be shocked to hear
from her after all these years, it's almost 10 years by this point, she was nevertheless
leaving them her daughter Lisa to raise.
The note claimed that the cult she'd run off to join had a rule where each person could
have only two children each and she'd reached the maximum already.
Therefore, child number three had to be given up and she'd reached the maximum already.
Therefore child number three had to be given up and she figured giving it to her family
to raise was the best option.
At least that's what the note said.
No one ever thought to try and stop the cult.
Well, that's a fantasy world.
All of it.
Like the police were notified about the cult.
Here's the thing.
This sounds ridiculous, but every single person who needed to buy this story believed it.
Rosemary Fritzl accepted it immediately.
The government accepted it when Joseph took steps to properly adopt as an own incestuous
grandchild.
And social workers accepted it when they made regular visits to the Fritzl home. Nobody questioned it. They just thought,
Colt, okay, I don't really want to ask more questions here.
Well, one thing is Lawyer Illustrated that seems to make,
kind of make some of this make a little bit more sense,
is how he was viewed in the area.
Is that he was viewed as a no-nonsense,
straight-laced businessman.
And a lot of times people don't push these questions hard He was viewed as a no-nonsense, straight-laced businessman.
And a lot of times, people don't push these questions hard if they go and they're living
in a quote-unquote nice house and the kids are dressed and fed.
It's a very low bar.
It's a very, like, in a way, like...
Well, the story's very embarrassing.
And they don't want to embarrass this businessman.
They don't want to embarrass this person who's seen as somewhat upstanding in the community. So they don't really ask questions. Yeah, because who could
resist the wonderful like neck nuzzles of a mustachioed father with burnt hair
from the from Sesame Street. And they all knew that being like, well, if she can't handle those
wonderful sort of brush mark pieces, then obviously that she was deficient as a daughter and
It's not any
Dismergment to pawns that these fatherhood skills of Yosef Ritzel because he did everything he could he'd start covered in blood
I guess it makes sense because if I got a letter from Holden saying he took his family to a cult
I'm gonna go oh, okay, good. Better off!
Good luck!
Really, the only misstep Fretzel made in his mind was that he could have made far more
money from government benefits by fostering Lisa instead of adopting her, which was not
a mistake he would make twice.
Fly from your grave. adopting her, which was not a mistake he would make twice.
By 1994, Elizabeth had been in the cellar for 10 years, and she was suffering a myriad
of health problems as a result.
She had an extreme vitamin deficiency, she had anemia, and her teeth were rotting out
of her mouth.
She, however, had lived her childhood in sunlight, which could not be said of her children, Kirsten
and Stefan.
They were now five and six years old and had never once been outside the confines of the
dungeon.
After much begging, Fritzl did provide them with vitamin D supplements and an ultraviolet
lamp, but other than that, they never received any medical care outside of aspirin for the
near twenty years the two oldest children spent underground. But other than that, they never received any medical care outside of aspirin for the near
twenty years the two oldest children spent underground.
Hey there you piece of shit narrator!
That's what you were wrong!
Alright?
I left out a big flat rock and they had a big, they could go lick at the tube with the
water and whatever they want.
You even bring up the salt lick.
They never talk!
No one brings it up!
No one talks about the fact that I used to bring
perfectly smoked piles of smelt for them every other Sunday for them to use as deodorant.
And you know what they say, whoever smelt it dealt it.
Do so if I could, I would put you first against the wall. Now a number of things happen when a human being is completely deprived of sunlight.
Besides the vitamin deficiencies, people lose all sense of time itself, which leads to sleep
patterns that don't make sense to our bodies.
Besides the obvious fatigue, extremely irregular sleep patterns cause headaches, dizziness,
and a loss of coordination.
These symptoms were only compounded by the underground family's lack of oxygen.
Did they have any idea when a day started and ended?
No.
No.
Well, Elizabeth had, she definitely had a concept of dates.
She knew, because she knew how old all the kids were.
She knew what day they were born on.
I think she asked him what the days were she knew what day they were born on she asked him Yes days were that's probably right
And I think that he did sort of because he would come down one of the things that they know he wouldn't like turn off
The lights go good night and then turn off the lights the lights were on all the time
But no it is he legitimately did keep her like like, at this point, like at first, it was very much like
a prisoner and captive.
She obviously had to fake on some level, like a meeting point between him.
She began to, out of her own need for survival, would begin to engage with him on a more personal
basis and he'd come down and they would have like check-ins, because at this point he views
her as his wife in a
Way like his like his basement wife has done to my yeah
And so when he would talk with her like he would fill her in on the news of the day and stuff
But it's all from his perspective
So it was all just off like you know I won a gold medal in the slalom yesterday
And then everybody the mayor said gave me a prize for my penis
on Thursday
This Friday just you know, it's a day TGIF
The thing is that Fritzel he knew how to work with concrete but he didn't know shit about HVAC
So Elizabeth and her kids deprived of oxygen spent most of their time lying down or sitting due to constant exhaustion. Lack of oxygen
also makes it hard to think, which led to emotional and comprehension problems in all of them. I mean
people might ask, you know, why didn't Elizabeth ever try to escape or anything like that? She
couldn't fucking think. None of them could think because they couldn't breathe. This is a, this is
common. You know, we always just, we'll talk about the Natasha Kempush too, and they all talk about this concept of like,
well why didn't you leave? This type of extreme torture, it changes your brain.
Yeah, it does.
It limits the neural connections without societal connection, without affection,
without these things that we view as extremely common because none of us are bound to a basement,
you don't understand what it does to you.
Yeah, I mean, we talked so much in Patty Hearst
about what just her time-
But she only got the one chunk of time,
this is 24 years.
That's exactly what I was saying.
She just had a relatively small amount of time-
And it fucked her up.
Yeah, in the closet,
and it completely fucked her up for years.
This is over two decades.
Yeah. And also like no matter how much she hates him and obviously she fucking hates him more than
anyone can hate anybody. Of course. You need some sort of conversation. Oh, it's how it goes. The
human animal and our brains, it's why we evolved so well and for so long is because we're highly adaptable.
We can make pretty much any circumstance at some point feel comfortable.
Yeah, we make it work.
Just fucked.
Well, as far as what they ate, Fritzl only provided frozen, canned, or processed food.
The underground family never had anything fresh, and the lack of nutrition, sleep, oxygen, and sunlight
meant that there was rarely a time when at least one of them weren't suffering from an infection of one
kind or another.
Fritzl usually drove out of town to buy groceries for Elizabeth and the kids, again to avoid
suspicion.
But when he didn't have time to make the drive, he would take advantage of his position
as the landlord of multiple apartment complexes.
Yes!
That's right! Oh yeah, I forgot almost! I'm a landlord too! Oh yes!
I'll go take it from them, I break in, I can do whatever I want, I own the building,
I can sell it underneath them, make them all homeless!
Just thinking about it makes me want to come in my ledger also.
And everyone else had to foot the bill because he had people living for free.
Yeah! Well that's, actually we'll get to that here in a second.
I mean Fritzl had keys to everyone's apartments.
So when a tenant was away from home, Fritzl would let himself in and steal their food.
Oh, fuck you.
It's just the worst thing he's done to anyone.
The thing was like everyone noticed it was happening, but no one could explain it.
One tenant thought he was losing his fucking mind because things he bought at the store
would simply disappear from his home.
Yeah, I didn't think I was filled with worms.
Your brain, your stomach is just like, am I worms?
I think I'm worms.
The tenants who lived in the apartments attached to the Fritzl home also had high, unexplainable
electric bills.
This goes to your point.
These came because Fritzl had rerouted electricity from the apartments down to the dungeon, meaning
that the tenants were partially and unwittingly funding Fritzl's extreme sexual deviancy.
And what is this, Brooklyn?
My next destination
Magical place called Bushwick I will I want to take some time to thank Frank Oz for being on the show
Yes. Left a little bit of calm on my daughter I did. No evidence. Now when it came to educating the children, Elizabeth did the best she could. Using cardboard
and glue, she'd make pictures for her kids that told stories of pirates, princesses,
and fairies.
Like J.K. Rowling.
Yeah! And while this does sound somewhat impossible, Elizabeth also took great pains to maintain
the illusion that the situation in the dungeon was totally normal, if only to give the kids at least
a shot at momentary happiness.
And I bet it helps her too in a way.
This can be like, we can all pretend for a second like I'm just a regular mom and we're
in the living room.
Otherwise she would have had to kill everybody herself.
And that's the thing, she never told them that they were all prisoners, but neither did she ignore the world upstairs
She educated the kids about the Sun the moon nature and weather none of which were things the kids had ever
Experienced but just imagine that like being told about the concept of weather but not knowing what weather was
Oh, I feel like that makes like
Dweezil's app or something you know like it makes like it kind of explains a lot of nepo babies
Mm-hmm you know what weather is but I feel like they get special weather
They're like they get awesome weather Jaden Jaden look up there that cloud that's for you
We made that cloud we purchased that cloud just for your birthday
Yeah, I'm your father Will Smith
Sorry man, I just laughed about it all day
Honestly, Elizabeth should be happy that Will Smith wasn't her capture because then also she'd have to deal with the horrendous A level fart.
Those of you who don't know, new story just came out.
Barry Sonnefeld says that Will Smith farted so much on the set of Men in Black, they had
to shut down production.
Shut down production.
That's an expensive fart.
Yeah dude.
The insurance doesn't cover shit like that.
They don't know.
They were like, what?
That could happen. The thing I saw a couple of days ago, someone
said that they had to shut down a Godspeed, you black emperors show because a guy was
farting so much.
That's not even far. That's not a far problem. That's not a fart problem.
That's a shit problem.
Oh yeah, but Will Smith does have a fart problem.
I can't fire Will Smith, but I can fire the caterer.
He said he wanted the seven bean salad.
He said, I didn't know.
I didn't know I was eating in a bedding.
Well, back to Elizabeth.
Oh man.
Okay. Well back to Elizabeth. Oh man.
Okay well Elizabeth, she gave birth to her fourth child Monica in March of 1994.
Fritzl was away on one of his trips to Thailand so Stefan and Kirsten, 5 and 6 years old,
helped with the delivery.
We're going to put the picture here right now on social media of Joseph Fritzl on vacation.
We just texted back and forth through each other and that man is
what would you describe him?
He looks like if Beef Wellington was on
was on vacation
Too tan for an Austrian
Very tan, spread wide eagle with his
big ass bulge, he definitely had
a fucking veiner on him
Do you think so? Cause I looked at the picture and I saw a flatness
there, like I saw nothing
Let's pull it up
Get the text as well Rob just type in Joseph Fred soul on vacation. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's my ball
That's him right there. That is a flat
Wow, it's just the belly that makes his dick looks small than all of us. He's like a kind all down there
Yeah, there's nothing. He doesn't even have big nuts. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Marcus on this one
He is definitely flat. It could be his flat penis
Defy you to make 19 children with your family
Wow, that is a through man. Technically that is the Lord of you'd call that a father body
That is a father figure. Mm-hmm. Now his arms are completely covered in hair from shoulder to wrist
Whatever man, that's called normal and it's called
Technically, he's very virile
Don't fucking defend
To save face for yourself and
you're fucking into extreme body hair.
I'm just saying it's a part of why I...
I just wake up hard as a dickens.
If you're going to call him virile you have to put criminally in front of him.
Yes, he is criminally virile.
About nine months after Elizabeth gave birth to Monica in December of 1994, Fritzl
stole the child away and took it upstairs.
She made Elizabeth write another note almost exactly like the one she'd written when
Joseph brought up Elizabeth's third-born.
This time, however, Joseph Fritzl took the ruse even further.
Taking an incredible risk for seemingly no reward other than to make a fool out of his wife,
Fritzl left the infant on his own doorstep, drove to a phone booth, and called Rosemarie.
But when Rosemarie Fritzl answered, Joseph didn't speak in his own voice.
Instead, the nearly 60-year-old Fritzl impersonated Elizabeth by speaking in a hushed falsetto whisper.
He said quote,
Hello, it's me, your daughter you haven't seen in many years.
Don't be angry, I just left her at your door, sorry.
I was wondering when Miss Piggy was going to come.
I can't tell you where I met.
Fancy.
Call me.
Nailed it.
I'm sorry.
You know, I got caught doing this when I was younger.
Really?
Yeah, I was dating some girl who and her father would have let me see her ever and so I like
tried to call her house as her English friend Faith.
Oh my god, Eddie.
Just see what a penis will do.
Cause this is before even
joined drama. This is before you did musical.
Give us your
teenage British girl accent.
Hello, is Dorothy there?
This is Faith. No, you can't fuck my daughter.
No, this is Faith. No, get the fuck off the phone.
You're trying to fuck my daughter. I know you, you
fat fuck. I've seen you walk around.
It's just her friend Faith and I know you you fat fuck. I seen you walk around
She doesn't have a friend faith
You throw two sticker than the phone
Even sadder about this guy. He actually wrote the Miami Dolphins fight song. Oh
Hated me. Oh, really? He really hated Really
Steeped in the fritzel story for weeks
That's personal sadness for a friend it's different it's because you were trying to fuck his daughter. Yeah, I didn't even know what fucking was back then
I bet he did see you walking around like fucking asshole
Speaking of the biggest boy in school Yeah, I mean when Fritzl called up with doing this falsetto voice this high-pitched voice
Rosemarie bought it and I think maybe it's cause she didn't, at this point, she didn't have any other choice
but to keep lying to herself about the extreme weirdness of this situation.
I got an email, which I do tend to agree with what there's almost no way that she didn't
know something that a lot of these people don't like do know something.
I think Rosemary has also just has the same effect of being so abused and so afraid of Yosef for so long that she
Legitimately just doesn't it's almost like you could have just brought him in the house
Yeah, you know I mean like you could have just brought the kid into the house
And I wouldn't have even said anything, but you're going through this whole thing which in a way. She must be like
He also finished games
Almost charmed by the length he went.
We are married for as long as we've been married.
You've got to mix it up.
You just know your piccadillo's of your man.
But...
These aren't piccadillo's.
With Jeffrey Epstein Dean with shenanigans.
You would have your Epstein Dean with shenanigans.
These are piccadillo's.
What is a piccadillo?
Oh, it's having sex with your daughter and making multiple children with it.
Oh man, I wish I could go back to not knowing.
No, it's just a funny little thing that you do.
It's like a thing. It's like a thing about me.
I think it's like a picadillo about me.
It's like, you know how you eat like spoonfuls of cream cheese straight out of the bucket?
It's a picadillo.
It's a funny little thing you do.
Scallions cream cheese. Yeah, it's a funny little thing you do scallions cream cheese
Unbelievable. Derailed.
Well after the phone call,
Rosemary reported it to the police
and within a few weeks, Rosemary
and Joseph Fritzl were legally appointed
Monica's foster parents. I mean
all this stuff was on the up and up. Everybody knew
about everything when these kids were brought upstairs.
And it just seems to be fine because
he was considered to be a successful
local businessman. Now when Joseph Fritzl
turned 60 years old,
he bought a Mercedes Benz and drove around in his new car
wearing his customary, expensive, tailor-made Italian suits
complete with shiny crocodile shoes.
And as far as that famously wavy head of hair went,
Fritzl got that installed
at an expensive hair transplant clinic in Vienna.
He was very concerned with his appearance.
Very.
How much did that cost, asking for Henry?
I will not do it.
There is a service in Turkey that you go.
Apparently you go, it's like a whole all-inclusive where you go to a place.
Not a lot here, huh?
No. It's because it's bad for you
Yeah, and honestly didn't really work because you notice now is he's older, right?
If you look at the older pictures of you as a Fritzl, this is also one of the major crimes that he did
He shows how bad a hair transplant is because you could see the front line of his hair where it was installed is there
But then he's bald behind it. Just still every time I look at him. I still see the Carlo to farts guy
I mean look
eerily similar
Well, I hope wherever he's buried someone paid for the plot
The thing is about Joseph Ritzel by all appearances
He was a wealthy successful man who carved out a chunk of Austria for himself in the real estate and property management
businesses.
But even though Fritzl was good at what he did, his spending far outweighed his income.
He was deeply in debt and had leveraged many of his properties just to stay afloat, all
to keep one step ahead of the banks.
Oh, at the banks?
I heard he had several incestments. Incestments. stay afloat, all to keep one step ahead of the banks. The expenses at home meanwhile were piling up.
In April of 1996, Elizabeth gave birth for a fifth time.
Technically fifth and sixth.
Fifth and sixth twins named Alex and Michael.
Alex did alright, but Michael developed severe respiratory problems almost immediately.
And actually she's kinda of lucky at this point
that this is just the first kid to be born
with extreme birth defects.
It's wild actually.
It's like, I can't believe,
I think that's a part of what makes this story so big
was the fact that in a very perverse way,
it was like luck where she, because these kids
all kind of came out normal, there was no real reason for the situation to hit the stakes
it would need to take for it to pop.
But no one knows these kids, so we really don't know how normal they actually are.
Well, they're out now, you know.
We'll get into it in episode three, but they actually know a fair amount about what they were like,
how they acted when they first got out, but we'll talk about that more in the third episode.
Okay, cool.
Well, Elizabeth begged Fritzl to take the newborn to the hospital, but Fritzl refused, saying,
what will be, will be. And so, after several days in which Elizabeth, Kirsten, and Stefan had to watch an infant slowly die,
Fritzl took the corpse and tossed it in the same incinerator he used to burn garbage down in the cellar.
But perhaps because the infant's death was emotionally devastating,
Fritzl finally put a TV and VCR in the cellar in 1999,
12 years after Elizabeth had been kidnapped, halfway into her time underground.
I think that it's important for us,
now that we've all been through so much,
and this has been such a trying time for us
with the health of the baby,
I think it's time for all of us to sit down
and watch scary movie.
Scary movie?
I'll explain to you a lot of the references obviously a lot of these you have
seen but this is absolutely hilarious. The Wayans brothers are unstoppable right now.
And I think that you will just, it's time for a laugh.
Well not surprisingly the TV was left on day and night although the kids had a hard time
understanding just what it was they were watching.
As author John Glatt put it, it was as if the TV programs were being broadcast from
another planet.
Likewise, the kids learned history and geography from textbooks Fretzel provided, but since
the kids had only ever known the dungeon.
I really can't stress that enough.
Concepts like Kilometers, or World War two or Napoleon
these could only be cross-referenced with what the kids saw on TV that's only
what you researched when you were a child know anything about the Nazi death camps. These kids didn't know anything about the
horrors and atrocities.
Nothing about Kristallnacht. Don't even get me started on what they didn't know about
Ernst Rommel.
No, when Fritzl came down to the cellar, which was not as often as you'd think, he treated
his visits like family get togethers. He'd bring small presents for the children and sexy lingerie for Elizabeth
Which was all bought on a credit card open in Elizabeth's name
So it looked like she was out in the world still buying shit
See and it's kind of fucked up too because he missed all the daddy stuff in the sexual world
Mm-hmm. What I mean what missed all the daddy stuff in the sexual world now
It's everybody people cook and they say daddy and they say call me daddy and then the other show has got the daddy in
It and then you know like it's all about being daddy and that's the fucked up thing, huh? Yeah
Well, I think he got plenty of it probably I'm just saying he got more than most there be more official
Merch more official merch that he would enjoy that he would buy for her and bring it like bring her like buyer or call me
Daddy like tank top. Yeah, take it down. That's what I'm saying. Yeah
Mm-hmm except he we I guess he would be wearing the tank top wouldn't he?
Yeah, it's really fucked up that he missed all that yeah, it wasn't till he got to a vacation till he was called poppy
I just I just just missed so much.
But when Fritzl forced Elizabeth to wear the lingerie, the children knew that it was time
to run to another room because Fritzl was about to rape their mother.
Usually he'd have porn playing on the VCR he provided, and sometimes he'd force Elizabeth
to reenact his favorite scenes
in a special rubber padded room that he had built specifically for rape.
Speaking of construction, Fritzl hadn't thought too much about height when he'd built
the cellar.
Even though Fritzl was six foot tall, each room topped out at five feet, six inches.
Stefan Fritzl, however, the second born, he would eventually grow to be five foot nine.
As a result, Stefan could never stand up straight after he passed five foot six, while some
of the other kids walked around stooped over like monkeys even after they were freed.
I mean, think about that, your entire existence, five foot six ceiling.
Jesus Christ.
And it's never, and you know nothing else
Henry be fine five seven and honestly I like sunshine but when the underground
family walked around they weren't really walking around even though Fritzel had
expanded the dungeon by three rooms
There were two bedrooms and the padded room
It was still tiny and each room was connected by passages no more than two feet wide
I mean the the pictures are
Highly disturbing yeah of like what life was like down there. There aren't very many. There were only two released I believe
but they are
extraordinarily oh no those are pictures Rob just pulled up of his prison cell which is almost twice the size of where he kept her
but now they built his own bathroom like you did get a
Yeah, no, it's a absolutely fucking god fucking awful his prison cell look nice. It is
And god fucking awful. His prison cell looked nice.
It is.
It's like log cabin.
No, it is nice.
It's a good vibe.
It looks like an Airbnb.
No, and the Austrian prison is nice.
It's better than like any hotel in Midtown.
In addition, the walls were always damp and covered in mildew, and everyone had constant
fungal infections as a result.
Again, the only treatment they ever got, despite
Fritzl's wealth, was aspirin. The issue of space could be why Joseph Fritzl, in August of 1997,
took the surviving twin infant Alex upstairs, the third such child to be taken away from Elizabeth.
By this point, though, Fritzl barely needed the customary note from Elizabeth saying she
wanted her parents to raise another child. This is like oops. Yes another
Yeah, they just say she just didn't care and she just assumed I believe that Rosemary also
Maybe put it up to he's having sex with many many sex workers bringing home the children
She knows I think that he goes on sex tourism
And that he would go and come back and I think that's a lot of what she just assumed
this is some affair partner and
She just didn't want to do you think Elizabeth felt relief whenever he moved a child upstairs?
No, I think she felt an intense grief. Yeah, well intense grief, but also, you know the knowledge that the child would have a better life
Yeah upstairs, but you also have no idea things even a lot
You know, he's also telling her that one day we're all gonna be upstairs like he's starting to say stuff like that
Well, I mean concerning the authorities though instead of thinking that maybe it was weird that so many kids were ostensibly being dumped on
The Fretzel steps authorities accepted it. It was just one of those things, you know, it's one of those crazy things
They probably also thought he was to the ill and quote-unquote illegitimate children of customers
But yeah every few years the crazy Fretl girl who ran off to join the cult,
she gets pregnant, she drops off a baby, we got to do a bunch of paperwork and then just
one more guy and I'm Stetten.
Yeah, I'm sure like the cops even looked at Fritzl as a good guy.
So we were like, take in kids who need help and stuff.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And the children who went upstairs, they were far better off than the ones left downstairs,
because Elizabeth's other children were largely raised by Rosemary.
These kids went to school, they ate, they had sunlight, they lived as good of a life
as was possible with Joseph Fritzl in their home.
But lest ye think he began to mellow with age, Fritzl was introduced to Viagra when
he was in his 60s, which made his frighteningly
strong libido even more violent and long lasting.
Let's just say I'm a people pleaser.
I just want them to know Yosef is coming, he's bringing that pipe.
No matter what's going on, I'm super stressed at home.
My basement wife is gone my ass about sunlight
My upstairs wife is just I hate the way she's sitting stairs and says nothing
It just drives me nuts even now. It's annoying to me those your breathe's annoying me, so just nice to let off some steam in here
And how did you get the Viagra? What'd you say to the doctor? Oh, I told him, you know me, my noodle isn't as noodle as I want it to be.
And he was saying, give me a wink.
And he told me, tell me what I need to do.
Fly from your grave.
Well as if what Fritzl was doing at home wasn't enough, he was also visiting brothels well
into his senior years, and his tastes were getting stranger as he got older
One sex worker called him sick beyond imagination, but she also didn't elaborate
It's like she couldn't even talk about what he made her do
While another said that he forced her to call him teacher for some reason
Yeah
Now in 1998 Fritzl went on another month-long trip to Thailand followed by two weeks in Italy
But just before he left he stockpiled massive amounts of food in the dungeon so his underground
family wouldn't starve to death.
But while Joseph was on his six-week European-style vacation, another Austrian was making his own
incursion into the world of dungeon kidnapping.
His name was Wolfgang Pricklipien, in March of 1998 he kidnapped a 10 year old stranger,
a 10 year old little girl named Natasha Kampusch and locked her in his basement for eight years.
Now Wolfgang Priclopil, he is not quite the charmer that Joseph Ritzel is.
No, he's a he is a communications technician. What is gang prequel peel is a fascinating
Fucking weirdo. Yeah, who is
Fuck this guy's fucker weird. I know nothing about it. Oh, well, you'll learn some. Mm-hmm
See click prick Lepeel had also constructed a sex slave dungeon in his cellar in the southern Austrian town of Strasov under Nordbahn
Which was about an hour from Vienna this one
However, this cellar was far smaller at approximately five feet by ten feet
Just room enough for a bed and a ladder
I was watching a very interesting documentary on him and you could see his his buddy
The only way to really describe him is that he does look like somebody Indiana Jones punches at the beginning
of a Nazi sequence
He looks like the first attack and he was quote-unquote like wolf gangs like co-worker and he says in this whole thing
He's like, you know wolf gang came up to me
This is this concept of making a soundproof room and he showed me the materials that he was working on and I looked at them
And I said
Oh Wolfgang this will not absorb enough sound you need to make this more and I gave him all the instructions
And I guess he followed them to the letter
Well Natasha spent
3096 days in prickle pills thrall having been abducted in the most stereotypical way
possible.
He just dragged her into his white van off the street.
It's very long legs.
Yes.
But to that point, police did question Pricklepill during the initial investigation, much like
British police questioned Peter Sutcliffe during the Yorkshire Ripper mass canvas.
Also like the Brits, Austrian authorities were satisfied by Pricklepill's
explanation that he was alone on the morning of the kidnapping and they
therefore left him to his devices.
I'm always alone! I don't know why you would think I would be anything but entirely alone!
Now Natasha was not allowed to leave the chamber at any time during her first six months
of captivity.
But unlike Joseph Fritzl, Pricklepill did eventually let her out.
For many years, Natasha was allowed to leave during the day just as long as she stayed
under Pricklepill's close watch.
Once Natasha turned 18, eight years after she was kidnapped, Pricklepill actually started
taking her outside of the house. Cause you know,, at this point no one's going to recognize her.
Oh, so at first it was just like the backyard. Yeah. Yeah. At first it's just the backyard
upstairs. But then eventually, yeah, he's going to, he took her outside of the house,
but he threatened to kill her if she made any noise. And she thought that he always
had a gun on him at all times. So she took him at his word. In fact, he once took her skiing for a few hours near Vienna, although Natasha maintained
she had no real chance of escape.
Mostly though, Natasha spent her time upstairs doing housework or cooking for pricklepill
when she wasn't locked in the cellar.
He would beat her so hard she could hardly walk he'd starve her to make her physically
weak and would, of course, rape her repeatedly.
Like Joseph Fritzl, Pricklepill also lied to Natasha by saying that booby traps were
in place to prevent her escape.
But instead of just the cellar being booby-trapped, Pricklepill told her that all the doors and
windows on the house were rigged with high explosives set to go off
should she ever try to leave.
It's so crazy because like if that's what you thought, like it's interesting that they
still had the will to live.
Cause it's like eight years you told me there was explosives in the house that's gonna blow
up.
It's like, fuck it.
Let's rock bro.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
Let's do it.
That's different.
You're a big, you're a big macho man.
And she was a little girl.
But Natasha Campos, she kind of talks about it very interestingly because she said she viewed herself,
she did have a very strong will to live and she viewed herself as living in defiance of him
and that she was going to live no matter what.
And according to her, she was looking for as many outs as she could, but it was the way he did it. Like,
there was a couple of things that he said to her that was also part of the thing. So the first
thing she, he would come in and he would bring her presents. Like he'd bring her fancy croissants.
It started with the expensive toys. Then you'd bring stuff like piles of mouthwash and scotch
tape to her and say, like, you can play play with this and then eventually he started telling her that he was a reincarnated Egyptian god and
that that she just had to go with it she literally had to sit and be like yep
you're Cyrus and he's like
and then you have to call him maestro over and over again.
But then largely, eventually even the sexual nature
of the relationship change, the relationship,
the rape change to him coming in,
crying in her arms like a toddler, like crying.
So he would like flip it on her where she would sort of
be the adult comforting him in these very, I'm go honestly odd circumstances. Yeah real strange. It's like if someone with dementia was totally in charge. Yeah. Wow. What's that like?
But finally on August 23rd
2006 Natasha had a chance to make a run for it.
Sometime that afternoon, she was vacuuming Pricklepill's white van in the garden when
Pricklepill got a call on his cell phone.
In order to hear the call, he walked away from the vacuum noise.
Once he was out of sight, Natasha ran through the neighborhood, jumping fences, and pleading with any person she saw to call the police.
Strangely though, no one reacted to Natasha's pleas, and pretty much everyone just kind of went about her day, just sort of brushed her off.
It was only when Natasha knocked on the window five minutes into her escape that a 71 year old man named Inga finally responded.
I mean, imagine five minutes of running and screaming and trying to get help.
And thinking at any moment, like he's going to come around the corner and he's going to
catch you.
Five minutes.
It's the end sequence of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Yeah.
And no one helped.
Even this is also post Fritzl's capture, right?
No, it's not.
Oh, okay. This is what's fucked is that this is also post Fritzl's capture. No, it's not. No. Oh, okay This is all this is what's fucked is that this is all during. Oh
She loudly said to the old man
I am Natasha come push which rung bells immediately and Inga called the police who quickly took Natasha into custody
This is before Fritzl. This is in 2006 Fritzl's 2008
Oh, man, and I'm gonna talk more next episode on Yosef's point of view, but he talks about
this
case
Being like one of the first pop up and it like when he saw this this thing hit the news
Then Tasha compost hit the news the story hit the news
He kind of like it was the first beginnings of the unraveling of his like super long-term plan in his own mind
Like he started like apparently for him. That's when the interior pressure started to build because it really was very difficult on him
He finally really that what he was doing was wrong
No, no that he but he finally realized that what he was doing people would not look kindly upon
Well, he always knew that they would that's why she was underground
but he because he knew that they would never understand.
And so, but this was just way more like,
oh, they're going to start looking for hidden girls more.
Yeah. Yeah.
Joseph Fritzle, he's kind of like a Nazi at Nuremberg
who will never admit that anything he did was wrong.
He's an utter, he's a full Nazi.
I'm going to talk next episode.
I have some more talking about more of his Nazi thoughts cool
Now Wolfgang Pricklepill knew that the game was over the second he saw that Natasha had escaped
So the 44 year old communications technician hopped in his red BMW and drove to the vine Nord station in Vienna
There he jumped in front of an oncoming train and ended his own life. Yep, incredibly Natasha
Exploded like that. I'll be the nicest thing he's ever done. Yes, honestly
I think it means he's a fucking pussy and he couldn't handle the punishment. Of course
Incredibly Natasha compouche ended up owning the house where she'd been imprisoned for so many years. Since Pricklepill had no family, she claimed it from his estate after his death and became a regular visitor in
the years after her escape. As of 2017, she still owned the house, although she said she'd
fill in the cellar if she ever sold it.
She is truly an inspirational person. Same thing as Elizabeth Fritzel, but she is a can extremely her interviews are powerful
Yeah, and she wrote a book about the whole thing too like Elizabeth Fritzel like you know as we'll talk about she
Faded it like she was like I'm sure I don't I'm done don't talk to me
I'm like this is over, but Natasha is like become like a person who really speaks out about this stuff
Does she live in the house or she just own it she's her vacation home. She spends a fair amount of time there, but it's crazy
Yeah, I don't know why I don't know if I could do that. I would burn it down
No, it's I guess it's worth money
But I don't know they said that they know there were you know reports that she you know would go in like kind of was cleaning
the place out
And just yes, you would spend extended amounts of time there. Wow.
Just, I don't know, maybe it was familiar, who knows.
Maybe she was trying to face something, you never know why people do the things they do.
Natasha didn't escape until 2006.
Back in 1999 though, she was just one year into her captivity, while Elizabeth had been
underground for a full 15 years. When Elizabeth's time reached 18 years, the age she was when she'd last seen sunlight,
she gave birth to her seventh child, Felix.
Fritzl did entertain the idea of taking Felix upstairs as well, but he decided that Rosemarie
couldn't handle a fourth child.
So Felix was sentenced to stay in the dungeon with Elizabeth Kirsten and Stefan
There's also a little bit of talk of the way he chose what kids would go up
Because let's just say he has a type and so there was a little bit of
Maybe and make my second wife one of these ones third wife. Oh, yeah. Thank you
Thank you for reminding me they go by so fast
crazy now the kids he moved upstairs were they the ones that he would want
to sleep with or would he keep those downstairs gotta hate that question
I believe that they were the ones he was acclimating to real life that he would maybe
peruse in a tinder like fashion, okay, I
Believe that the ones that he had an eye on he kept downstairs
Do you like fucking the hydro shit I actually prefergrown. I think he appreciates the hydro.
Nah. Wow. Weird.
Now besides the stress of raising three children solely in a place that's smaller than a railroad apartment,
Elizabeth's body was breaking down due to a lack of the most basic human necessities.
She was only in her mid-30s,
but her teeth were falling out due to rotten disease and
her formerly red hair was now gray.
As such, Fritzl announced that he was no longer attracted to his daughter and stopped raping
her as a result.
He now, however, was turning his gaze towards his daughter, granddaughter Kirsten.
She was now 13 years old, but was just as frail and sickly as her mother's sister
Every time like I'm kind of smiling from something we said it just gets sucked right off my face
The sweet and sour the better, you know
But perhaps to ease the burden Fritzel brought a washing machine into the dungeon that same year
That's a quick Natalie loved it for our anniversary our fifth anniversary
I bought one of those washboards so she could take it down to the LA River and wash my underwear
in the in the swamp
Happy really
Cotip fellas., ladies love a washing machine.
She was so happy about it. She called Julie. She told her about that I had to buy fucking
Julie a washing board. Damn it, I'm sorry. At least they get to go down by the river and sing
their folk songs and stuff and then we could tell them how many kids were having.
But the thing is, I would imagine it would just make the dungeon more miserable Yeah, because of the space it took up and you know, it's not like she needed to save time
Like she had plenty of time to do laundry. Yeah, she's not she's unfortunately
She's the exact opposite of a wife on the go. Yeah
Joseph Fritzl turned 70 years old in April of 2005 and still showed no signs of letting Elizabeth or her children go
He could have died at any time and Elizabeth and the underground children would have starved to death down there without anyone even
Knowing that the kids had existed at all and he's fucking Kirsten at this point
Beginning to groom Kirsten. I don't know they never talk about that
Okay, like they they hint at it
It's it's hinted at but it's never really talked about
Yes, you know, it's also interesting is that Natasha Campuche also talked about the fact that her wolf gang was very
Sickly and what he would do was he installed an intercom and so he would talk at her all night
And largely was insulting her slash sobbing slash, you know, he's you know
It's not well and he called her and one of the he would call when he was sick and he'd go there
He's like, I don't know if I'm long
Like all night long and eventually she's like if he dies up there
I'm gonna die down here. Yeah, so she'd have to be like no wolf gang
You're gonna make it like I feel like kind of like and help him and go
She'd he'd let her upstairs to like help him feel better and like take care of him when he was sick fuck me
That's so horrible and she had to yeah, because if I don't keep him alive, I die down there in a much worse way
Yeah, and and Elizabeth knew that as well. Yeah, you know that if he dies up there
I'm well she told that he had told her that there was like a special mechanism that was in place
So it would release them if you know, they it reached a certain amount of time. That was not true at all
Of course it wasn't true. It was eight doors. It would probably well, I mean I would imagine
That was not true at all. Of course it wasn't true. It was eight doors. It would probably well, I mean I would imagine
That's the thing is that you really do wonder through those eight doors if anyone would have smelled the bodies
If they would have died down there They were in a concrete prison with ventilation if you look there was a tiny door
That he would use to get through the cell like it wasn't like there was a massive door in the cellar that it was like, oh no, don't go down there.
Like he had it, it was a little door
about two to three feet tall
that he would open up and crawl into
and then stand up and then would go through
the rest of the doors to get back there.
So-
It's like Willy Wonka.
So I mean, the four dead bodies,
that is gonna be a lot of,
that's gonna be a lot of stink.
But it could also be possible that they were in there deep enough that people might be
like where the fuck is that smell is coming from for about a week?
Like you do with the dead rat in New York City in the walls.
You wait for the maggots to start crawling out your light bulb.
Yep, exactly.
And that would be that would probably would have been the case there.
And you know, and who knows after someone bought the house in 20 years, 30 years.
Yeah, if they'd uncover the basement.
If they would uncover the basement or you know, if you find weird shit.
Inspections, house inspections, that's just what they're supposed to find.
Or you find weird shit in the house, sometimes you're like, I don't know what's behind that
door. And I don't really have the effort to, I don't really want to check out what's behind that door
That's my line in the sand you do if I'm buying a house and the realtors or something says don't open that door
Yeah, don't say I don't know if you ask if you say like hey what's behind that door and someone says another door
Yeah, I'm not fucking going anywhere near it behind that door and someone says another door. Run away. Just run away. Do it by the house.
Yeah, I'm not fucking going anywhere near it.
Well, to most people upstairs, Fritzl seemed to have the appearance of a good family man.
He and his wife were raising their wayward daughters three children, which everyone thought
was a noble cause, and in 2006, the same year Natasha Kompush escaped, Fritzl and his wife
celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary.
Oh, and what a romantic night it was. When the kompoosh escaped, Fritzl and his wife celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary. The next year, it seemed like Fritzl already had an inkling that the truth was going to
come out one way or another.
He was chatting with one of his tenants, coincidentally a former classmate of Elizabeth's, and told
him that quote,
One day, this house is going to make history.
How? You wait. Just wait. I don't want to spoil it. And indeed Fritzl was correct. But once Fritzl
hit his 70s he very plainly got tired of the whole rigamarole that came with
having a second underground family. Now at first he considered just killing them all to hide what he'd done, but since he was
an old man, getting rid of four bodies, small and malnourished as they were, that was going
to be a challenge.
And if there was a smell that was going on while he was still alive, it would come out
while he was transferring the bodies.
Well if there was a smell, he'd have to deal with it.
If he just kind of let them starve down there, he'd have to deal with the smell because he's the fucking landlord landlords got to deal with smells. He's got an incinerator
Mm-hmm. He's already put one maybe two if you count the miscarried child in there
I will say guys just know that if you are
Mad about a man or lady ghosting you it can be much worse because this is the worst ghosting possible because at the end of this
ghosting you become a ghost. Yeah, you die
well
Fritzl he actually began to lay the groundwork for Elizabeth and the kids to leave the dungeon by continuing the cult narrative
He thought this actually might work in
2008 Fritzl made Elizabeth write another letter which said that she was tired of the cult and she wanted to come home.
Apparently Fritzl was going to slow roll the entire process to make it seem natural.
But in April of that year, Fritzl's slow roll plan fell apart when Kirsten, Elizabeth's
firstborn, she got dangerously sick and started having seizures.
This came amidst a mental breakdown where Kirsten tore her hair out in clumps and ripped
off her clothes so she could stuff them in the toilet to clog it up.
And so on April 16th, 2008, on Elizabeth's 42nd birthday, she begged her father to take
the 19-year-old Kirsten to the hospital.
And that's where we'll pick back up for Joseph Fritzl Part 3, the conclusion to the hospital. And that's where we'll pick back up for Joseph Fritzl part three, the
conclusion to the saga.
You thought we'd end it in two, but guess what? No, we're still in the basement and
we're going to continue. But it does get interesting because there was a lot of new information.
That's a part of why I got to three parts is that a lot of new information has dropped in the last year.
Yeah.
Like that is really kind of, well now it's this whole, we'll talk about it, but it's
very, it is interesting.
There's a third chapter here and it's a, it's a little uplifting.
Right?
Yeah, in a way.
No.
Like out of the basement uplifting.
No, I just think in a way it just shows,
Joseph is still able to forgive himself. And I really think that that's the hardest thing
for anybody to do.
Powerful.
It's so hard to get, to have to absolve yourself
of things that you've done.
And for that, I'm really proud of him.
Good for him.
Yeah.
Good for him.
You know, that's the thing with being Catholic.
You know, you can just go to confession and everything's fine.
Yeah, that's so great.
Jeffrey Dahmer's up there right now, love in heaven.
Him and Michael Jackson, love and life.
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Boston LA Brooklyn London Iceland we're coming to you this year. And we don't know when the fuck we're going to be back. So make sure to grab your tickets as soon as you can see
us. We'll come on out. Nice. I got standup on Monday. Come and check me out in Burbank.
If you're in Burbank, I'm going to be at the good night at 8 p.m. or come at 7 p.m. I think
it's a 7 p.m. at the good night. It's like light comedy or whatever. It's gonna be a
lot of fun. There's karaoke afterwards. We'll have some fun.
I got a nice set and let's just, you know, let's party, bro.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, fuck that, Ed!
And that's on October 7th.
October 7th, this Monday.
Hell yeah.
Alright. Sounds good to me. Hail, sweet Satan.
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