Lateral with Tom Scott - 32: Losing golf balls for fun

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

Xyla Foxlin, Jordan Harrod and Becky Stern face questions about cable cutting, baking brilliance and ska band shenanigans. LATERAL is a comedy panel game podcast about weird questions with wonderful a...nswers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit https://www.lateralcast.com. HOST: Tom Scott. QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe. RECORDED AT: Podcasts NZ Studios. EDITED BY: Julie Hassett at The Podcast Studios, Dublin. MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com). ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS: Chris B., Harry. FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott. © Pad 26 Limited (https://www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 At 23 feet 11 and three quarter inches, the tallest actor on IMDb is Keiko. What film provided their breakout role? The answer to that at the end of the show. My name's Tom Scott, and this is Lateral. Welcome to the podcast, and also to our three guests who have shown that just by turning up, they are capable of making some very questionable life choices. Because returning to the show, we have Zyla Foxlin. Hey, everyone. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I have Maker and YouTuber down here as your description. Does that sound right? About right, yeah. I might throw Engineer on there, but I'll take anything, honestly. Creator of Chaos, it's all good. There is a lot of explosions on your channel from what I can see. There's a lot of stuff that keeps going up. We're entropy fans. Last time you were on, how did it go? It feels like you got a couple of questions in there. I think it stretches your brain in a really nice way. I really like these questions. So
Starting point is 00:00:58 let's see if we can like elasticize our brains a little more. That's much more optimistic than last time. Happy you're back. Also joining us, artificial intelligence expert, and I am assured not having been replaced by ChatGPT yet, Jordan Harrod. Not yet. I'm still here. I'm still kicking. Thanks for having me. I mean, was it two years ago that we tried to generate an AI version of me to replace me, and it was... It was two years ago, and I bet I could make a much better version now for less than a hundred bucks. It would not be hard. No. It's amazing how much that's gone in two years. I just assume that soon this entire
Starting point is 00:01:38 podcast will be AI generated, but... Maybe it is. Oh, God. Maybe I am. And the last guest today, but by no means the least, Becky Stern. How are you doing? Welcome back. Hello. I'm great. Thanks for having me. Last time, it was essentially the run through your childhood high school jobs with a lot of the questions. Should I ask if you have any jobs we haven't talked about yet? Or should we just see what comes up in the questions?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Plenty. Let's see what happens. I'm cautiously optimistic. All right, well, good luck to all of you. I'm going to ask a series of lateral thinking questions that have been rejected by all the same quiz shows, but we got them for free out of a dumpster, so might as well use them. We start with... In 1993, how did Suggs from the band Madness
Starting point is 00:02:21 putt a golf ball that travelled 1,300 yards before reaching its target. I'll give you that again. In 1993, how did Suggs from the band Madness putt a golf ball that travelled 1,300 yards before reaching its target? I assume that no one here has heard of Suggs other than me because they did not grow up in Britain in the 90s? Nope. Okay. You don't need to know about that for the question, but Madness was one of the 90s ska bands in the UK, and Suggs is still sort of known as a celebrity here. He was the singer, lead of the band. You will have heard at least one Madness song
Starting point is 00:03:09 in your life. You just won't know it was them. And I'm sure I won't after this. How far did the ball go? 1,300 yards, which is roughly 1,300 meters. That's what I'm saying. Because the accuracy
Starting point is 00:03:21 required for this, it's just one to one. Hella far, as we say in the science community. Super far, super far. Yeah, nearly a mile. Because you, it's just one to one. Hella far, as we say in the science community. Super far. Nearly a mile. Because you said it's a scar band, I'm going to guess because he kicked it really hard with his super cool checkered vans. Does it have anything to do with the fact that he was in a scar band?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Not specifically a scar band. Launched it with a trombone. Did he scream so loud that the sound waves pushed him? Oh, that's scar punk. And several people who have... As I phrase this, I realize it's too cruel. Because arguably I'm one of those people. But several people who peaked in high school are now very angry at you for messing that distinction up.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Gonna be quiet for the rest of this show. He crowd surfed. Did he hit it with a golf club? Did he crowd surfed it? The putt is actually more normal than you might think for this. Oh, I like the crowd surf idea. I don't really know how far is normal in golf to be able to hit a golf ball.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Was it like a putter that you would use on like a putting green versus like a driver? Yep. Regular golf putt. Did somebody then pick it up and run it all the way across? That is the correct thing for a scar band to do. They pick it up, pick it up, pick it up.
Starting point is 00:04:41 No one got that joke. No one, no one in this call got that joke. And that would have killed with a different audience. I was so proud of that. I get it now that you explained it. I did not listen to Scar. The best jokes are the ones that need to be explained. Just complete blinks to the cast.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I think shoot it out of a trombone is not a bad idea. That was great. Come on, that's related. Also, I would like, we have two makers on this call. Like someone can make a trombone golf ball launcher for a scar band. I'm just saying that's an option. Hey, Becky, what are you doing this weekend? So it wasn't a launcher.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Like it wasn't like he putted it into something and then that's something like. More of a joke than a trivia question huh um you've you've just described a lot of things in this show what did you what did you say there jordan so it wasn't like a like he didn't like put it into something that like launched it somewhere put it into a t-shirt cannon no but you're closer than you think and when you said a while back that it wasn't important he was in a scar band it was important that he was fairly well known a random person would probably not have been able to do this was becky right like he like put it into somebody's hands and they like, like human bucketed it, like down a crowd. Arguably, this was still a legal golf putt. Was it down a hill?
Starting point is 00:06:12 No, that would be the obvious way to do it. But you are correct. This was not a regulation golf course, put it that way. Jordan? I was going to say tour bus. Something that's already moving. Ah, you are very close with that. But a golf putt for 1.3 kilometers, that's a bit much for a tour bus. Okay, airplane. Airplane. Oh, private jet. Any specific airplane that might come to mind,
Starting point is 00:06:41 given it's 1993? Concorde? Concorde. Did he putt it on a Concord? It was a charity publicity stunt. It was the world record longest golf putt, because in the time it took the ball to go down the aisle, Concord was going twice the speed of sound, so that technically went 1,300 yards. Wait, so for people who were born in 1996, what is Concord?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh my God. Same. Okay. Did you just get a what was Concord? Because I just felt myself withering like the guy at the end of the Indiana Jones movie there. I competed in a beauty pageant in which 13-year-olds told me that I was an old lady.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So I feel that. And also, yes, Concord's were still flying in 1996, though. But they were like being taken out of service when I was zero years old. OK, I did go to a Google event recently where it was like a TikTok dance thing. And I brought my best friend and we were dancing and one of the girls was like, so which TikToker did you learn to dance from? And we were like, we had to take dance lessons in a studio. Like grandma.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm glad there's relative versions of this as well. Concord was the only regularly in service supersonic jet. Oh. Which didn't fail. It worked for a long, long time, but it was never really profitable. Yeah, it wasn't cost effective. There is one. If you want to see one, there's one parked right next to the Intrepid Sea and Space Museum here in New York.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, interesting. Good to know. It turns out most business class passengers would prefer to spend eight hours in a very comfortable bed that lies flat rather than three hours cramped into something that feels like a Spirit Airlines flight. That's fair. That is fair. JetBlue is like my preferred airline and they're acquiring Spirit and it drives me absolutely insane for this exact reason. Anyway. So yes, this was arguably, very arguably, the longest golf butt in history
Starting point is 00:08:47 because it was on a Concorde in flight. Each of our guests has brought a question along, and today we're going to start with Zyla. Take it away. All right. An eighth grader loved baking, but kept mixing up his set of measuring cups even though they were labeled. So he came up with a more visual alternative design
Starting point is 00:09:05 that made such mistakes far less likely. What was it? I will read that again. An eighth grader loved baking, but kept mixing up his set of measuring cups, even though they were labeled. So he came up with a more visual alternative design that made such mistakes far less likely.
Starting point is 00:09:20 What was it? I'm going to recuse myself. I know the answer. I've seen it. Oh, that's awesome. Okay. This feels like a maker question. Is it the measuring cup,
Starting point is 00:09:29 like with just different levels and the visual things on it? That feels too easy. No. Are you talking about a graduated measuring cup, Jordan? Basically, yeah. Where it has the little... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:41 These are individual cups. How do you mix up your measuring cups? Well, a third cup and a quarter cup are like all visually pretty close when they're in the drawer. Right. This is the American thing where you're not just measuring out into like a thing that has gradations on the side. No, but it's not mass. It's not a scale. We don't do that.
Starting point is 00:10:04 No, you do volume for dry ingredients, which is weird. It's great. It's a perfect system. Wait, in the UK, do you bake with a scale? With grams, yeah. And they heat their water in a more sophisticated way, too. It's just so sophisticated and metric. Wait, how do they heat their water?
Starting point is 00:10:23 With a kettle, with an electric kettle and not the microwave. Do you remember when Ruth found out that you could microwave a mug of water? Wait, who's using the microwave to heat your water? I was going to say, yeah. Sorry, there's just vicious arguments about methods of heating water all of a sudden. Me, I get two bare electric wires and just plunge them in and hope it works. While holding them. In fairness, I do have one of those ember mugs.
Starting point is 00:10:47 So I just put water in it and it brings my water to the correct temperature. Not sponsored. Also, just for my own safety and legal liability, do not get two bare electric wires and plug them into water. I don't recommend doing that. You can do it if it's DC, if you're running through a DC adapter and you're trying to and you're doing like electrolysis. Maybe still don't do that though. There's a tutorial
Starting point is 00:11:09 on my YouTube channel that does involve, but they're not AC wires, they're DC wires. Becky assumes all liability if you do this. I've got business insurance, come at me. The producers and host of Lateral explicitly disclaim any responsibility for sticking electric wires into pots of water. The producers and host of Lateral explicitly disclaim any responsibility
Starting point is 00:11:25 for sticking electric wires into pots of water. You know the old don't stick beans up your nose thing? Where if you tell a kid, don't stick beans up your nose, they've suddenly got the idea in their head that maybe this is a thing they can do? I feel like I'm doing that with electric wires and water pots now. So this is a kid who couldn't... Are these like measuring cups that are like one third cup, one half cup, one cup,
Starting point is 00:11:47 things like that? Yeah. Okay. Usually one quarter, one third, one half, and one. Okay, I can see how those would be confusing. And then anything smaller
Starting point is 00:11:57 than a quarter cup is like measured in tablespoons and teaspoons. Because freedom units, and it's hard. Yeah, for anything like that that i would be using like a jug with like gradations on the side so i wouldn't so okay now i understand what we're talking about so this is just like a cup you can just put into apparently liquid or something just you've got the
Starting point is 00:12:16 right measurements you scoop it like the flour and then you can like scrape the top and then you have your perfect like but then you also have to make sure it's like packed like enough because like brown sugar is one of those things where it's like it has to be well packed. Yeah, they say in the recipe like one cup like well packed brown sugar. But regular sugar, like flour is the only ingredient. Water and like honey, that's all fine. You don't have to.
Starting point is 00:12:38 This is not how I bake. So now I understand. Makes the whole thing feel very old timey, you know, and that's what you like when you're baking. Yeah. That's not what I like when I'm baking. So now I've like established what the thing is we're talking about. Okay, I understand the question.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It is fractions of a cup. So this kid made like a new set of cups? Yes. He designed his own set of cups. Okay. If I was doing that and I needed to mark out like half and third and quarter, and I've got like this cup that's like a hemisphere, kind of just a scoop. What I would do is I would make them all one cup in size
Starting point is 00:13:19 and then just physically block out half or a third or a quarter and just like visually go, go okay they're all one cup but this is a quarter so i can i can scoop that yeah you you're basically basically there you are there hey yeah yeah so he he like i have the problem solving ability of an eight-year-old child so he cut out the like sections um so they're sort of Pac-Man shaped. And he is also the son. Wait, this is such a good idea. Yes. He's the son of the user experience director for Microsoft India. So the most run in the family.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Okay. So the bar is set high. The dad is like, invent something already. Dad's like, fix this. Anytime I see something, and is this is just you know me being skeptical and not particularly great with kids is i look at that and go how much of that is the dad doing the kids homework i hope it's none of it i hope the kids go with that but but there's a part of me going how how much of that is the dad going that'd be a good idea maybe i'll suggest it to the kid but that that would be slanderous if I suggested it, so I won't.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Cynical, Tom, cynical. This eighth grader's a genius. Yeah. Have you ever judged a science fair in a privileged neighborhood? Anyway. No, but that sounded like a threat. I lived in that neighborhood, so, um, kind of. Yeah, so he designed these four measuring cups at the same height that were shaped like a quarter of a circle, a semicircle, three quarters of a circle and a whole circle.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So if the recipe called for half cup of sugar, he would pick the half circle shaped cup. And I believe he 3D printed them. This feels like such a good ADHD hack. I just I just noticed that the source for this question is the dad's LinkedIn post about the project. And I like, I felt... I feel better about my cynicism now. I feel a lot better about my cynicism now. Next question's from me,
Starting point is 00:15:17 and it was sent in by Harry from Christchurch, New Zealand. As German forces rolled into Paris in June 1940, the French resistance sabotaged many important military assets. In particular, five sets of cables were cut to slow down Hitler's rise, perhaps literally. What were they, and how did they create difficulties for the invaders? So one more time, as German forces rolled into Paris in June 1940, the French resistance sabotaged many important military assets. In particular, five sets of cables were cut to slow down Hitler's rise.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Perhaps literally. What were they, and how did they create difficulties for the invaders? Telegraph lines? I was going to say. It can't be. If it's something double entendre about rising, then it's not telegraph lines. Oh, you've started doing the thing where you clue into the question now. Like once people have been on this show for a few questions,
Starting point is 00:16:06 they start honing in on things. Also, I've watched Jeopardy, okay? Cut five cables that... That stopped him from rising. Oh, it's a balloon. Was he going on a dirigible flight? Stopped his rise literally. Oh no, that would make his rise happen faster
Starting point is 00:16:27 if you cut the cables. Oh yeah, that's the opposite problem. He's already in the dirigible. I mean, they should just keep, they should just cut all the cables. Did I mention I'm dyslexic? No, no, that's lovely. It's just, it's an alternate ending to,
Starting point is 00:16:44 is it Inglourious Bastards where they kill Hitler at the end? Or, sorry, spoilers for a movie from 10 years ago. But there's a version of that where instead Hitler is on a dirigible and they cut the cables. It just flies off just out of nowhere. It's poetic. So not that. Not that, no, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Okay. Elevator cables. Elevators. Say it louder, Zyla. That sounds right. Elevators existed in 1940. Did they? Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yes. They did. I once visited the first elevator, which is in New York, and they built the elevator shaft before the elevator was invented because the designer of the building knew that it was going to come along at some point soon. The technology was in place. So sort of forward thinking, put the lift shaft in there,
Starting point is 00:17:34 but made it circular. Oh, bummer. So there is still one single circular lift in New York that they have to get parts for special every time. There's a lot of elevators that need special parts. Oh, yes. And I visited most of them for my YouTube channel at some point. I was going to be like, the New Yorker has entered the chat here.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So it's not, you want to tell me about. So it's not an elevator cable. It actually is an elevator. You're surprisingly close there. Zyla, Zyla got it. Why did they cut the cables? That is an excellent question that I am not going to answer immediately because it will kind of give the game away.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Oh. It is an elevator. You're absolutely right, Zyla. Is it five elevators or are there five cables on one elevator? It's five sets of cables. I can't imagine it would go down only because like, there's not a lot under Paris other than the catacombs. That's true. Has anyone been to the catacombs? I got an invite there. Okay. Cause you're only allowed to go in there. Are there tours or is it just people sneaking in illegally? No, there okay i've been i've been on a tour twice honestly it gets kind of boring after the first 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:18:50 once you've seen your first pile of skulls i mean saturated saturated they mean nothing airbnb did a halloween promo once where you could win a lottery to spend a night in the catacombs and i think no one's actually made it all the way through the night no thank you i don't believe in ghosts but i'm also not interested in testing fate tall things in france eiffel tower tower i wondered when those two things were going to collide. You've been working around that for a while. Yes, tall things in France. Why might they have cut the cables in the Eiffel Tower? Oh, so they couldn't put people or spies or cannons? You can't put a cannon on the Eiffel Tower.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I mean, nothing would stop you. It probably ain't going to be all that useful, but nothing is theoretically stopping you from putting a cannon on top of the Eiffel Tower. But they could still walk up the stairs, so it really just inhibited them. It feels like putting a cannon on a canoe. Sorry, a cannon on the Eiffel Tower
Starting point is 00:19:55 is the best thing I've heard this week. Sorry, where did the canoe come from there, Zali? You said something putting a cannon on a canoe. I love the idea, because the recoil would send you just at high speed. I used to have a lot of fights with a friend in college about like, if it was a good idea to put a rail gun on a boat. And I was like, the recoil is just, I would put it on solid land. So that was the train of thought where I was like cannons on objects that shouldn't have cannons.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And then I went to boats and then I was like like what's a small boat that would not make sense also Zyla likes canoes she's being modest she's made more than one small boat it's true do you like canoes the next one will have a cannon on it don't worry we we have an all and also uh several masts and a figurehead and it will just be a pirate ship. It will just, that's... Yes. What is a pirate ship but a large canoe with a cannon on it? That's just the large trajectory of my career, is just to build a pirate ship.
Starting point is 00:20:54 We have got slightly away from the Eiffel Tower here. Is it the ammunition? The elevator, like, sure, you can still get to the top on the stairs, but, like, would it impede their ability to put big munitions up? They'd have to haul the munitions up, so if they were really heavy, like a cannonball or something, they can't. I mean, they weren't using cannonballs in World War II, but no snipers. It's a lookout point. It's a great place to put communications antennas, anything like that. And it is a very good place to hoist your flag.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So just for propaganda reasons, they wanted to make that as difficult as possible. And yes, eventually someone walked up all the stairs and hoisted the flag, but it meant that you could not have Hitler standing atop the Eiffel Tower for a very long time. Wait, so how many stairs are there? Is there an elevator? I didn't know there was an elevator. There is an elevator in the Eiffel Tower the last time I went. I mean, that was also in like 2010. I know, I haven't been there since 2004. It's also a two-story elevator, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Like you load on two levels and get off on two levels so they can fit more people up and down. It takes 30 to 45 minutes to climb the stairs to the second floor. And I think there's multiple levels. Yeah. One of the wonderful notes I have here is that eventually, yes, a German soldier did climb to the top. They did hoist the swastika over Paris.
Starting point is 00:22:14 The flag was so large that it immediately blew away the same day and had to be replaced later. I feel like they should have sent some French people to the top ahead of time. So yes, June 1940, the sets of cables that the French resistance cut were the lifts and the Eiffel Tower. Our next question is from Becky. Take it away. In 2016, a new mini golf course opened on Boscombe Pier in Bournemouth, England. At the end of the course, the player's ball would roll into a hole never to be seen again, but nobody seemed to mind.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Why? I'll ask that again. Are you making fun of my pronunciation? I love that you pronounced it like the muth. It is unfortunately just Bournemouth because British English reduces every single vowel. M-U-T-H sounds like muth. Yep. Every single vowel in British English just gets reduced to uh. Short, short sound. Bournemouth. In 2016, a new mini golf course opened on Boscombe Pier in Bournemouth, England. At the end of the course, the player's
Starting point is 00:23:21 ball would roll into a hole and never be seen again. But no one seemed to mind. Why? There's a lot of mini golf courses where you put your ball into the last hole and then it just gets saved somewhere. So you can't like get it back and play another round for free or something like that. But I worry that I'm going to get this immediately. But if it's on a pier, did they just drop it into the ocean? Yes, it dropped the ball into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But that's not the full extent of the answer. Is it made out of something tasty for sea creatures and they it attracts like dolphins and whales? Wait, actually? Yes, it's made of fish food. Oh, I love that. Oh, that's clever. That's so
Starting point is 00:24:01 cute. That's the difference, Tom. Most mini golf courses like reclaim the ball, but this one is never to be seen again by humans. clever. That's so cute. That's the difference, Tom. Most mini golf courses like reclaim the ball, but this one is never to be seen again by humans. Wow. That's adorable. Because the one, the mini golf place where I grew up did reclaim the ball and then it roasted you. So that's what I was expecting.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Wait, what? Yeah. It spent like five minutes giving you shit about your bad performance at mini golf. Oh, that's not very nice. Wait, did it like track how many times you'd hit the ball or something like that? Because I'm sure someone's invented that.
Starting point is 00:24:35 No, it was just a universal thing. Like, it didn't matter how well you'd done because there were two holes. There was the hole where you actually got a hole in one, and then there was two holes. There was the, like, hole where you actually got a hole in one. And then there was, like, everyone else. And they made the hole in one hole so impossible that, like, everyone got the, like... There was literally a bird that, like, sat on top, an animatronic bird, that sat on top of the hole and would, like, give you s*** for, like, five minutes.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Wow. You had way fancier mini golf courses than I did as a kid. I was going to say, that's incredible. And that was great for my development as a child, probably, anyway. I don't know how well this worked out since the place actually closed
Starting point is 00:25:18 three years later. So I don't know. Was it pandemic? No, shut three years after 2016. So, well, okay, maybe that is right. I don't know. it pandemic no no shut three years after 2016 so oh well okay maybe that is right i don't know it depended three and a half years if they opened like in late 2016 that could be pandemic but um it says that the um golf balls were made when from 100 fish food they would fall into the hole and after hitting the water the balls would biodegrade within 48 hours and then when they were fish food and the course claims to be UK's first eco-friendly
Starting point is 00:25:45 mini golf attraction. That's cool. Hearing eco-friendly and golf in the same sentence. Yeah, they're not. They're not usually going together. I was about to say, in what sense?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like better than... It stops people playing actual golf. The last big question for me then, we've got one guest question left and then the one at the start. but the last one from me is this. And it was sent in by Chris B. from Greater New York City. I don't know if there's a lesser New York City out there, but if there is, Chris B. is not from it.
Starting point is 00:26:16 A Scottish law from 1432 addresses the legal consequences of butchering an animal that one did not personally own. It also describes the evidence necessary for conviction. This gave rise to which common saying? Give that one more time. A Scottish law from 1432 addresses the legal consequences of butchering an animal that one did not personally own. It also describes the evidence necessary for conviction.
Starting point is 00:26:41 This gave rise to which common saying? For us also, or common for you. Yes, you will know this. Are the dumb Americans going to stand a chance? Yeah. This is, to the best of my knowledge,
Starting point is 00:26:57 one that's used in America as well. If it's not, then this is going to be a fun five minutes as I find that out. Can we ask what the animal is? Or can I guess what the animal is and you can say yes or no? Is it relevant? I don't Does it matter?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Doesn't make a difference which animal That's a clue When my mom first immigrated to the United States She like bought a book of idioms in English To try to like get more conversational And so I grew up with like the weirdest idioms because it was like a very outdated book and probably from the UK and not America. And so she would just say things and I would be like, what? So I'm excited to pull out all my obscure
Starting point is 00:27:40 idioms that might be from the UK. I mean, to me, this is not obscure in the slightest. If it turns out that Americans don't know this, I will be surprised and shocked and also apologetic for wasting everyone's time. Wait, so it's from a Scottish law about butchering animals that aren't yours? Yeah, so I guess the British term would be poaching. I don't know if that's a u.s one as well
Starting point is 00:28:06 no but poaching is when you kill an uh like an animal you're not you're not legally allowed to kill yeah like usually the wild like rhinos and stuff yeah so this would apply to like uh if someone did that to a farmer's sheep or cow or uh to the king's deer i don't know if that's a thing but something like that. It's like stealing because you're presumably you're butchering it for you to eat it or take it away. Yeah. What idioms are there about stealing? Wait, so this is a law.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Not my fish to fry. I mean, we can list a lot of idioms with animals in them, but that's not quite where we are. I always get a book of idioms for my teacher's assistant in class if they're an international student, because I think that's the difference between fluency and non-fluency is knowing the local idioms. It's really fun for them to learn. Especially in English, where half of the language is breaking all of the rules. Can you confirm it is an idiom that we're looking to answer? Yes, absolutely. You are looking for an idiom, a common metaphorical phrase.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Ooh, that's an even better clue because it's a metaphorical idiom. I mean, it wouldn't have been. It is now. It wouldn't have been then. I feel like I might know it, but I'm very much not sure. All right. Take a guess, Jordan. Caught red-handed.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Spot on. Absolutely right. Out of nowhere. All right. Take a guess, Jordan. Caught red-handed. Spot on. Absolutely right. Out of nowhere. Duh. Yep. Wow. The Scottish Acts of Parliament of James I say that the offender be taken a red hand.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Ooh. Okay. Nice. That became caught red-handed. Literally, if the hands were found to be red, that was the evidence required that they had butchered the animal. That sucks. Yeah, out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Jordan, congratulations. Was that just popped into your head? Well, so because it was a law, what I was trying to think about was like, if it's a law, like it wouldn't be, you have to get caught. You have to be tried. And so it's not going to be like a for funsies thing that people do for like the lols.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And the only thing that I could think of was like a caught red-handed situation. Yeah, literally the red hand means blood on the hands. I'd always assume that that came from like killing a person, not an animal, but... Yep, the Scottish law from 1432 is the origin of the phrase caught red-handed. Last guest question of the show then, Jordan, it's over to you. So here's my question. Knowing he'll be on his own for a few days, a young man prints out a photo of his living room and puts it on the wall.
Starting point is 00:30:47 What does he then move and why? And I'll repeat the question. Knowing he'll be on his own for a few days, a young man prints out a photo of his living room and puts it on the wall. What does he then move and why? So my thought immediately went to like Zoom backgrounds. Yeah, mine too. Yeah, that he's hiding something.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Because if he's going to be on his own, then he wants to make a mess, but he's preserving like this tidy state of his living room for his Zoom background. Or the thing that he's moving is himself. And he's actually just... Or his laptop. He's just going off to a beach somewhere and he's just hanging up a picture of his normal room behind. But no.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So you're right in the theme and the direction of what you're thinking, but you're wrong in what is being moved. What would you move when you want to have a bachelor weekend in your living room? The, I don't know. I feel like I should know the answer to this
Starting point is 00:31:40 and apparently I don't. TV closer, the gaming console the bomb thank you thank you for all the stereotypes there i'm just speaking from personal experience tom the the table the most elicit table with the flowers he's arranging on it the uh the the thing he's dutifully sewing for his partner. I don't know. I'm just throwing in some other suggestions there. Is it like a reference picture? Like he's trying to...
Starting point is 00:32:12 Is this to hide... Is this to cover a Zoom background or like a video call background or something like that for the printing out the picture? No. No? Okay. Because you can do that virtually these days, right? You just take a picture of the living room and then you don't print it out and put it on the wall so the fact that it's printed out and stuck on the wall is significant versus just having it the image
Starting point is 00:32:29 virtually so is that a reference picture is he taking a photo of the room so he knows what it will look like when he moves things back no oh okay i mean he might be as like a secondary thing but that's not the primary use of this oh man i'm at a complete loss here he wants to do yoga so he moves to the couch okay so if he's on his own it implies that usually he's not on his own and like is it a kid like if i was leaving or if my parents were leaving oh wait did you say young yeah you said young man didn't you or what young man a young man prints out a photo of his living room puts it on the wall so i was thinking he's like 20s or 30s but young man could be like 16, 17 with the parents going away. Okay, if my parents were going away,
Starting point is 00:33:30 I would throw a party. Okay. But he's going to be on his own not throwing a party, right? Or is he on his own and therefore he is going to throw a party because his parents are gone? The reference that I have does not speak to whether or not he's interested in throwing a party in the first place
Starting point is 00:33:48 okay normally his father lives at home and the item concerned is a piece of technology is there a camera is there like a home monitoring camera that's pointed and the picture blocks the camera wait is he actually doing the thing from the movies where you interrupt the security guard and you put a photo up to kill the security guard? No. The answer is that the webcam was overlooking the living room. So because he knew that his dad would use the house webcam to check in on his son, this young man printed out a photo of the living room, put it on a wall, and then moved the webcam so that it was looking at it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Oh, that makes sense. Apparently this comes from Twitter. The questions on this tend to be like, this has happened once and someone has posted the photo of the son's inventive setup. So I assume that the dad got home early or something like that and spotted the... That's lovely.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And the son posted this on his own Twitter account to say that his dad went to Vegas for five days and put a camera in the house. But apparently that ain't stopping him. At the very start of the show, I asked the audience at 23 feet, 11 and three quarter inches, the tallest actor on IMDb is Keiko.
Starting point is 00:35:07 What film provided their breakout role? Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know who Keiko is? I don't, but my guess is that it's like the actor Whale or something from that movie about the girl and the whale. And I don't remember what it's called. It's the whale from Free Willy, hence breakout role. are exactly right tall is a misnomer then yeah length is length is actually the right word to use there but imdb does does not have a category for length so that's that's
Starting point is 00:35:39 what they went with is keiko also perhaps taller than the tallest actor? Like, I don't know how thick, with two Cs. Three Cs. I don't either, but I feel like if you stood the guy who plays Chewbacca, it was Peter Mayhew, it's someone else now, next to a whale, I still feel like the whale would be taller. How tall is an orca? Well, while you're Googling that that that is our show for today thank you very much to all our guests um please tell us where people can find you what's going on in
Starting point is 00:36:12 your life we will start with jordan you can find me at jordan harrod on all the things and i'm talking about how ai impacts your life and becky i make videos about making things so you can learn how to make all kinds of things on my youtube channel just to google me i'm becky stern and zyla i also make videos about making things and i'm gonna steal becky's outro and you can google me or you can find me at copying becky stern since 2050 and if you want to know more about this show or you want to send in an idea for a question you can do that at lateralcast.com. We are at Lateral Cast pretty much everywhere. And you can find video highlights at youtube.com slash lateralcast.
Starting point is 00:36:51 With that, it is goodbye from Becky Stern. Goodbye. Zyla Foxland. Adios. And Jordan Harrod. See ya. I've been Tom Scott, and that's been Lateral.

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