Lateral with Tom Scott - 75: Annoying Chad

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

Abigail Thorn, Annie Rauwerda and Jordan Harrod face questions about political plaques, coin collection and suitcase sections. LATERAL is a comedy panel game podcast about weird questions with wonderf...ul answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit https://lateralcast.com. HOST: Tom Scott. QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe. RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin. EDITED BY: Julie Hassett. MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com). ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS: Kento DiCaprio, Ólafur Waage, Dylan F., Brian J. Devine. FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott. © Pad 26 Limited (https://www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2024. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 My name's Tom Scott, and this is Lateral. Welcome to the show where we open tiny windows into little known places and hope to find something surprising inside. Think of it like an advent calendar filled with durian. But better. Hoping not to kick up stink today, we start with actress, writer, and producer and creator of Philosophy Tube, Abigail Thorne. Hello!
Starting point is 00:00:56 Hi, hi. It's wonderful to be here. Welcome to the show. You are a first-time player here, with a lot of announcements that, as we record this, have just come out. Congratulations on everything you're currently doing. Thank you. Thank you so much. What is in store for the next few months for you? I had just written a film called Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend, which has just been greenlit. We'll be filming it, and I will be starring in it in early next year, and so will some
Starting point is 00:01:22 other people. I'm not allowed to tell you who they are yet. But yes, I'm going to be making a fun vampire movie in early next year, and so will some other people. I'm not allowed to tell you who they are yet, but yes, I'm going to be making a fun vampire movie in the new year. Well, very best of luck on the show today. We also have, returning to the show, artificial intelligence expert, and still working on her PhD in medical engineering, Jordan Harrod. How are you doing? I am good. I am still working on the PhD. It feels like it will never end, but it should end by the end of next year. still working on the PhD. It feels like it will never end, but it should end by the end of next year. Knowing my friends who've done PhDs, like how confident are you in that end date at the
Starting point is 00:01:51 moment? How's it looking? I would say the window is closing. So my confidence is increasing over time. But as with all PhD things, like who really knows? If we have another pandemic, that would definitely change my prediction. Let's hope. Let's hope that doesn't happen. That feels like a worst case scenario. Do you know something we don't? Well, no, I do human subjects work. So if the humans can't come, then... Oh, I see. That makes my finishing part considerably harder. Also joining us today, returning to the show from the depths of Wikipedia, Annie Rowder, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Hi, I'm doing well. I apologise if people hear a little bit of the M and the Z trains right now. Last time you were here, we were talking about perpetual stew. You were just getting it ready. You sent me an invite to come and taste perpetual stew, and I was not in New York at the right time. How did that go? I mean, for the audience, first of all, what did you do and how did that go? I cooked a stew for 60 days straight. And then so many people on the internet really wanted to try it. And so I thought, hmm, I don't want you at my
Starting point is 00:02:59 apartment, but I'll let you try it at a park. And so pretty soon this park in Brooklyn was full of people. We were all eating stew. People were submitting like, you know, a carrot or whatever to the pot. And it felt very medieval and beautiful. And I even have right next to me my hats I made, which say City of New York Parks and Perpetuation. Or City of Stew Yorks. Oh, that's lovely. Well, good luck to you and to all three of our players.
Starting point is 00:03:28 As this is the first show in a new recording block, I will just remind everyone that questions go on offer to the third person in reverse chronological order, but only if the question asker has rebuffed the final clue for a second consecutive time. So please keep that in mind as I start you off with question one. In the 1970s, why did the British food writer and TV chef Delia Smith tell her readers to go to a pharmacy? I'll say that again.
Starting point is 00:03:52 In the 1970s, why did the British food writer and TV chef Delia Smith tell her readers to go to a pharmacy? I had a thought, but it's definitely wrong. That's how this show works, Jordan. Go for it. Well, no, I was thinking of the whole, I don't know if this was, I guess, in the 70s, but the whole thing where Lysol used to be a contraceptive and then the FDA got in and was like, you definitely shouldn't be spraying that there.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And then they moved it into the home cleaning aisle. Oh, wow. But that's not the pharmacy. I have so many follow-up questions on that fact, Jordan. Yeah, sorry, it's an entirely separate podcast. What is Lysol? I have so many follow-up questions on that fact Jordan yeah yeah I just sorry my mind it's an entirely separate podcast
Starting point is 00:04:28 what is Lysol? uh the spray like disinfecting stuff oh okay I mean I knew they were advertising it for various uh body cleaning things but I wasn't aware that it was contraceptive as well that's is it?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Lysol the all-purpose something cleaner for the avoidance of doubt that it was contraceptive as well. Is it? Lysol, the all-purpose something. Cleaner. For the avoidance of doubt, and just in case any of our audience are particularly gullible, that is a bad idea. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You're like Joe Rogan. You just say, Jimmy, can we fact check that? Exactly. I'm just looking at Matt, the producer, and no, no, absolutely not. He's got a can in the booth. He's just...
Starting point is 00:05:05 Wait, that's what I do, you guys aren't putting Lysol? No, I just have the implant, that solves my problem. Yeah, it's not a problem I have for other reasons. OK, so one thought, similar, sort of. One of the ingredients turned out to be poison. That's a good, yeah. Maybe not. You don't seem very excited about that. You would probably have to go to the doctor and not the pharmacy.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, I guess maybe if there was a very rich recipe she made, maybe she was one step down from poison. If they got heartburn a lot, did she maybe say, you should go and you should get this from the pharmacy? Did MSG used to be sold in the pharmacy? Oh. Or something like that? That's close, Jordan. It wasn't MSG, but you're right that she was telling them to go there,
Starting point is 00:05:54 not to fix something with their bodies, but to find an ingredient. So my guess was going to be, you know how sometimes you tie up Christmas turkey or a roast with twine? My guess was going to be, was she sending them out for dental floss to do that? I mean, it feels like that's the right era for it. But in this case, no. It's something we'd all find in grocery stores today. But back then... Oh, but back then it was an ingredient in food that was, oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:20 What else would be in the pharmacy? But it's like an ingredient for food specifically Yeah We're talking British cooking in the 1970s Which doesn't have a great reputation But what kind of cuisine would be starting to become popular then? Not mushy peas Socialism
Starting point is 00:06:37 I feel like there were three simultaneous insults to British cuisine happening there So you know what? We'll go around the table and get your jokes done. That's going to be like seasoning. I don't know. Annie? I was just saying it can't be mushy peas because those were around before. And those were definitely never prescription only.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Although, to be fair, this wasn't prescription only, but it would have been found in the pharmacy. Is it alcoholic? It's not. No. No, it's not alcoholic, okay. It's not alcohol. In fact, it's something that honestly has very few harmful properties at all.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm thinking baking soda, but I don't know why that would be in the pharmacy. Oh, that's a good guess. Some kind of like chemical reagent that's used for baking. Yeah. Something that causes like self-yeast? I'm keeping quiet for a minute. In the 1970s in Britain Mediterranean cooking
Starting point is 00:07:31 and the Mediterranean diet was starting to come into fashion. These were starting to appear in recipes. Are you telling me that you couldn't get tomatoes except from the pharmacy? Like olives? Jordan, you're close. Really? Really. What's close Jordan, you're close. Really?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Really. What's close to an olive, but not an olive? Olive oil. Olive oil. Absolutely right. Really? Why was olive oil in the pharmacy? It's actually a really useful contraceptive.
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, exactly. False, false misinformation. Please stop giving bad medical advice on this podcast. No, it's, I mean, it's not a good contraceptive. It can be a good lube, I guess. You can cut that. That's not getting cut. It's also used for one other thing.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And I suspect we have three people on this podcast who are a bit too young to remember this being an option. I vaguely remember it. It's the sort of thing my parents or grandparents would have used olive oil for. Why was it in the pharmacy? Was it like for diapers? Diaper rash?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Oh, yeah. Good thought. I was going to go with hair washing. If you don't know, you won't get this. It was for cleaning out earwax and ear infections and for indigestion. If you want to soften earwax, olive oil is a very good way to do that. But it wasn't used in cooking in Britain before about 1970.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So when Delia Smith wrote her first cookbooks that use that as an ingredient, they said go to the pharmacy. Oh, so people would, oh, olive oil, the thing that we use for softening our earwax, but they wouldn't think the thing that we use for cooking. What did they use? Just lard? Vegetable oil, lard, beef dripping, whatever was around. But the idea that you could have a healthy, in quotation marks, oil to cook in was kind of foreign to Britain before about the 1970s.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Well, in the US, too, olive oil used to be in the international foods aisle. My grandparents told me about that recently and I was shocked. Really? Going to the international foods aisle in like different regions is one of my favorite pastimes. Like when you're traveling and you're like, what do you consider to be international? The British aisle is always HP sauce and baked beans. Always.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So yes, in the 1970s, Delia Smith told her readers to go to a pharmacy to buy olive oil. Each of our guests has brought a question along with them, and today we start with Jordan. Whenever you're ready. This question has been sent in by Oliver Wogia. In August 2019, 100 people gathered in Iceland with the country's prime minister to mourn the sad loss of Auk. A brass plaque was ceremoniously mounted on a bare mountain rock bearing 415 ppm at the bottom. Why? I'll repeat the question. In August 2019, 100 people gathered in Iceland with the country's prime minister to mourn the sad loss of Auk.
Starting point is 00:10:20 A brass plaque was ceremoniously mounted on a bare mountain rock bearing 415 ppm at the bottom. Why? Is this something to do with a penguin? And there is some Scandinavian country which has a penguin in the military. Annie, I know you know the story. You're thinking of Nils Olaf. Olaf, that's it. Yes, and know you know the story. This is a full... You're thinking of, you're thinking of Nils Olaf. Olaf, that's it. Yes, and I believe that's Scotland.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Is it? I thought it was like Norway or Iceland. Okay. Well, oh, his military career is in Norway, yes. Right. Sorry, he's living in Scotland now. Okay. He retired to Scotland, you know, veteran, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Like James Bond. No, we think he retired. He was actually shot out of a torpedo tube somewhere and then apparently came back to life. You know more about James Bond than I do, Abby. I know far too much about James Bond. The whole podcast about the git. So PPM is parts per million, right?
Starting point is 00:11:19 So is it something that was, we're memorializing something that died as a result of climate change? In the right direction, yes. Ark sounds like something I might name a glacier, if I were naming them. Ooh. And that's why they put it on a plaque on Bear Rock,
Starting point is 00:11:36 because that's where the glacier used to be. Ah. And 415 parts per million is the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere when it happened. Yep, correct. You got it. Teamwork! Someday that plaque will be buried under ice again.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Long, long time from now. Hopefully. Everybody get your freezers working and dump the ice cubes on it. Together we can bring it back. They are mourning the first loss of an Icelandic glacier. 415 parts million CO2, recording that the current level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was
Starting point is 00:12:11 415 parts per million. I like the idea that at the glacier's funeral, the people that knew the glacier were there. Like, there was a volcano was present. Elsa from Frozen was there. All the people the glacier knew.
Starting point is 00:12:29 The volcano was present, but no one expected it, and it stopped almost immediately after. Everyone was just like, did you do this? Did you kill this glacier? And the volcano's like, genuinely, no. Thank you to Brian J. Devine for sending in the next question. The online comedy show Epic Rap Battles of History sees famous figures rapping together thanks to impersonators and digital effects.
Starting point is 00:12:53 What special maintenance task did they have to do for the episode Stan Lee vs Jim Henson? I'll say that again. The online comedy show Epic Rap Battles of History sees famous figures rapping together thanks to impersonators and digital effects. What special maintenance task did they have to do for the episode Stan Lee vs. Jim Henson? I remember liking that one. That was one of their strongest ones, that.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They're still going. I didn't realise this the other day. I got recommended Henry Ford vs. Karl Marx and underneath it on YouTube was something like two days ago. Have they still got it? That's amazing. Great. I remember in that one it was Jim Henson,
Starting point is 00:13:32 Stanley, and then Walt Disney was the surprise third mic. I can't believe you remember this. Did they have Muppets in there as well? Yeah, Kermit was in it. Kermit in quotes. Okay Kermit, in quotes. Okay, so I'm wondering
Starting point is 00:13:46 if you were to install some puppet show type stuff. Maintenance. Or maybe the aging makeup on the guy who played Stan Lee. Because I get them mixed up whether that was Epic Lloyd or Nice Peter who played Stan Lee.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I think that was Epic Lloyd. You know the names. Wow wow yeah yeah i used to watch it back in the day well because back in the day when when i was doing youtube next up they used to use epic rap battles as like a teaching tool they'd be like this is how you brand your content and it was like that that was like this is how you brand a video and this is how you do a thumbnail and stuff but they used to be used as as the example nowadays you'd go like MrBeast because he's kind of changed the rules. But yeah, yeah, back in the day, they used to use it as like a YouTube class. Oh, wow. I don't know if it was one of the channels that YouTube funded.
Starting point is 00:14:35 There was some like Vsauce that started because YouTube decided we need some professional looking channels here. And they just put money at production companies. And most of those didn't survive but a few did I don't think Epic Rap Battles was one of them I didn't know YouTube did that I never got any of that There were like a dozen of them
Starting point is 00:14:53 like 10, 12 years ago something like that Oh wow Did you ever see a slice of that YouTube money? I didn't I didn't come along until well well no I didn't get an audience until well after that had happened.
Starting point is 00:15:07 We succeeded in spite of YouTube, not because of it. My brain thought that sentence was going to be, we succeeded in spite of you. Like, I just thought you were just getting angry at me there. No, no. OK, so, maintenance on epic world battles of history. So I've never seen this. I have not seen the video, but I've seen other ones.
Starting point is 00:15:28 They're good. They're good. Some of them are like genuinely quite funny and cleverly written. Jordan, you were stumbling around something a while back. I was. Really, I was stumbling around it. I didn't mention it. Yeah, you fell on your face.
Starting point is 00:15:42 We all saw it. Annie, you kind of talked about what the videos were like. Do you want to talk through what a regular episode of this would be like? Okay, so I haven't seen these in years, but they pit two historic figures or random, I mean, fictional characters sometimes even, and then they have a rap battle. From a production point of view, what's it like?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Abigail, you should answer i'm screaming a lot of green screen a lot of effects like really good editing uh subtitles always like so you can i guess like rap along if you want to um did they did they have a hole in the green screen wait who stan lee and jim henson uh-huh stan lee did mu, right? No, Jim Henson did Muppets. Okay, either way. Kermit the Frog. Green screen. He's green! So what did they have to do? Use a blue screen?
Starting point is 00:16:34 They had to paint the wall blue. And they had for that one episode to use a blue screen instead of a green screen so Kermit the Frog could appear. Okay. Wow. I gotta tell you guys, I went to the Museum of the Moving Image recently, which has a big Jim Henson exhibit.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Oh, wow. And, you know, if you had asked me this before, I would have probably known that there are multiple Kermits. There are many, many different Kermits. But it was kind of like a Santa moment where I was like, oh no, there are a lot of different ones. I thought it was just one. I guess he is looking a bit different than he did back in the 70s. Like he's definitely had
Starting point is 00:17:09 some work done. He used to be made by hand. He's definitely had a bit of like Botox, you know? Yeah. He looks great. Great surgeon. I do know the Muppets are always in character. If the puppet is out of the transit case and being seen by other people, like, in character 100% all the time. Oh, yeah. I have also once seen a puppeteer who I will not name not follow that rule. Not from the Muppets, just another character with another known person.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And on camera, great, fully in character. And then they cut, and he drops his arm, and the puppet is just... just kind of head slung to the side, everything limp. And it honestly was just a
Starting point is 00:17:52 little bit of a gut punch of, oh yeah, that's not a real thing. Like my brain had fully agreed that that thing on the end of her hand was a talking living creature and suddenly it was dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did puppeteering training in drama school and it's an incredible skill when you watch
Starting point is 00:18:08 a puppeteer who has properly trained and is so good at it and can put the breath and the life into that. It's honestly beautiful. In today's economy, saving money is like an extreme sport. Coupon clipping. Robo code searching. It takes skill, Speed. Sweat. Unless we're talking Kudo's new phone, internet, and streaming bundle.
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Starting point is 00:19:08 have a very large letter L and S tattooed on the back of his hands? I'm desperately trying to think of a pun that is something like so he can tell he's left from his sight and it's just not... I was also thinking that. It doesn't quite resolve, does it? Bonus points, unconnected, does anyone know who Moby did the theme music for? I don't know who Moby is. He did a remix of the
Starting point is 00:19:31 James Bond theme that was used in Tomorrow Never Dies, I think. I didn't know that, but you might well be right. I was thinking of Jason Bourne. He does the credits music for Jason Bourne. Yes, he does. You know, every time James Bond does some James Bond stuff, he gets like... When Jason Bourne does some Jasonason bourne stuff you get something like
Starting point is 00:19:47 that's moby i know that not from uh the bourne films i know that from a korean show called the genius which used that same sound as their punctuation for someone has just realized something incredible and we're going to reveal it now. To the point where- We're using it on this episode from now on. It became a cliche in the show to the point where people were referencing it on later episodes.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They were like, okay, he's clearly mugging up for the camera here. So he gets Extreme Ways played at him, which is the name of the song. Anyway, sorry. We got distracted by Moby Facts there. The Korean show sound effects are great, so I could talk about them all day.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But LS, I just am thinking live saved. Ooh, I mean... Because maybe he has a tally. It is about preserving life, yeah. Because he's an animal rights activist. Yeah, it is about preserving animal life. You're right, you're on the right track. Is it LS on the back of both hands?
Starting point is 00:20:47 No, one hand has L and the other has S. Does he have any other tattoos? He does. He has one on his neck. The neck? Well, yeah, totally off. Yeah. No. Well, similar message, but it's not like one thing. It's for lemur and snake, because he saves lemurs with his left hand and snakes with his right. If he ever gets those mixed up, it's going to be a disaster. I mean, I don't think he has preference. I think it's kind of all animals.
Starting point is 00:21:10 With one hand, he sings. With the other hand, he loves animals. In case he forgets, he just has his mission right there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, always. Maybe I could give you a hint. So the L and S are the ones that are visible, but the tattoo goes on.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Oh, like it goes up his arms. But it's not connected to the neck one. All right. So my first question is like, is this something for him to read? Or is this something for someone else to read? Because if you look at your own hands, you've got words going up one arm and down the other.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So from his point of view, the letters are all upside down. So it's for someone else to read. Okay. So he can be like... Lateral podcast is amazeballs. Yeah, yeah. Weirdly, he got that done like 30 years ago. Well, now we need a Z at the end.
Starting point is 00:22:07 For reference, I will not be getting that tattoo. Oh God. Okay, words that start with L and end in S. Not much is coming to me. That's something to do with animal rights. Well, if someone else is supposed to read it, words that end with L and S, no? Because you'd be... Uh-huh, uh-huh uh-huh oh i was thinking it was all the way across but it's like if he's got puts two arms down you've got one word on each that ends in yeah oh is it just animal lives so close or animal rights or something it
Starting point is 00:22:38 is in fact animal rights well done i was gonna be like so you when tommy you're like where's the end with l and s i was like you was like, you just said it. I literally just said it. Yeah. No, he does. He's been a vegan for over 30 years and he has animal rights on his arms. And he also has vegan for life on his neck. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Okay. He's very dedicated to animals and Jason Bourne. Those are his two things. Where's that tattoo? I feel like we gave him some more tattoo ideas if he wanted some inspo. Live saved with a tally, you can have that idea for free. I'm looking at the picture, there's not a lot of room. They're like big, like bold, it's not like tiny little, it's like animal rights. It's very cool.
Starting point is 00:23:18 There's one where he's like in a suit and he's like doing up his tie and he's just got like L&S. It's cool. He looks like a hitman villain. It's very cool. Thank you to Dylan F for sending this question in. up his tie and he's just got like LNS. It's cool. He looks like a hitman villain. It's very cool. Thank you to Dylan F for sending this question in. In 1989, Romania officially stopped using a communist emblem. Why did this annoy Chad? I'll say that again. In 1989, Romania officially stopped using a communist emblem. Why did this annoy Chad?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Okay, so I don't know if you're a flag person. I bet so many listeners are flag people, but I don't remember the exact colors, but Romania is one of those three bars ones. So perhaps when it took off the emblem, it just looked a little too similar to Chad. Oh, I don't know what Chad's flag looks like. It's the guy in the red t-shirt with,
Starting point is 00:24:04 ouch, that's the Chad flag. Sorry, I couldn't know what Chad's flag looks like. It's the guy in the red t-shirt with, ouch, that's the Chad flag. Sorry, I couldn't resist. The thing is, Anna, you've nailed it. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm ruining your podcast. First time. I'm so sorry. That wasn't fun at all. You should kick me out of here.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yo, really? Which means, you know what, we're going to unlock the shiny bonus question that I have in reserve for just a moment like this. Yeah, you're right. Romania has a blue, yellow and red tricolor. They used to have an emblem in the middle of it, but after Ceausescu was
Starting point is 00:24:37 ousted, they removed that and that left the exact same flag as Chad, just with tiny variations in colour. But Romania has still been using that for longer, so they got priority. Is there no, like, international flag? Like, you gotta check your flag by the UN before you can make it your flag so that it doesn't copy off of a different flag situation?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Chad literally asked the United Nations to do that in 2004. They asked for an investigation. Romania had used the plane trickle-off for centuries, and Chad's design dated back to 1960. So there are now two almost identical flags out there. Oh, okay. I thought Chad just had to... I mean, it would be quite fun for Chad to come up with a new flag,
Starting point is 00:25:21 but I guess maybe they were attached to the one they had. That must be tense at the Olympics. Yeah, but they have to buy one less flag. Yeah, yeah, true. All the people from Chad are like, bloody Romania, copying our flag. Annie, we will roll straight onto your question.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Take it away. All right, this question has been sent in by Kento DiCaprio. In 1999, a major incident happened at a fuel facility near Tokai Village, Japan. Thankfully, there were incredibly low casualties and almost no rebuilding. Why were locals asked to contribute five yen each shortly afterwards? In 1999, a major incident happened at a fuel facility near Tokai Village, Japan. Thankfully, there were incredibly low casualties and almost no rebuilding. Why were locals asked to contribute 5 yen each shortly afterwards?
Starting point is 00:26:19 I'm trying to think, has there ever been an episode of Well, There's Your Problem on this? So there was a fuel incident? A major incident at a fuel facility. Okay, so like, was it a nuclear power plant? There's some heavy lifting being done by those words in that question. Okay. I feel like anything in that time period, it's usually like a nuclear power plant situation. Five yen is not much, though.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Five yen is about five US cents, I think. Maybe they were buying something small. So my guess is, like, did some kind of animals, like cats or dogs, like, break into something and eat someone's lunch, and then they just bought a padlock with the yen? Is that what it is? Yeah, the wording in these questions can be tricky, and like, fuel facility.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I'm not sure that extend fuel facility would be like a sandwich bar. I feel like that's a bit too far. Petrol station? True. That's a fuel facility with a sandwich bar? I wouldn't necessarily want to eat the sandwiches, but... OK. What would cost 5 yen for this i also don't know how 5 yen contributes to did they like i mean it's not the u.s but like was it a gofundme for someone's like health care no it wasn't that was it okay is the entire town being fined for something,
Starting point is 00:27:45 but then the fine is split between everyone, so it's five yen each? No, it's not a fine on the town. Okay. It's just a community kind of gathering around to fix whatever the problem was? One thing to pay attention to is that they're contributing five yen. They're not necessarily paying anyone. Are they like contributing it to a memorial, altar, religious, like spiritual ceremony of some sort?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Or it could be something like Big Ben in London. They weight the clock using pennies, the pendulum as it goes back and forth. So if they need to add or remove a second or two from Big Ben over time, they will just take an old-fashioned penny off. So there could be some tradition with five yen coins or something like that that mean... You're right to pay attention to the physical coin. Did something fall over and then they need to prop it up?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Did something fall over and then they need to like, like prop it up? Every chair in that facility just ever so slightly wonky now. Or like the screws came loose and you've got to, we didn't have a screwdriver so we had to use a coin. Remember that the government can, I mean, the government can't truly print their own money, but in this situation they potentially could. Why would they want it from people? I think I know. I think, is it a nuclear power thing? And it's something about metal being irradiated. And so we need an uncontaminated sample of the metal in the coins?
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yes. Wow. The answer is to test the coins for radiation. Oh, that's clever. Like the ships they pull up from the bottom of the ocean for the low background steel. Yeah, because I like scuba diving, so I know that about like some wrecks have lower levels of radiation in the steel, and so they're quite valuable for that reason.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So I was like, oh yeah, like metal and radiation. The coins are made from 37% zinc. By measuring the amount of zinc-65 isotope that was in the coins, researchers were able to detect how far the neutron dose from the nuclear fuel processing facility had traveled. Oh, that's so cool. Did they get the 5-yen back? We actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It doesn't say here. Also, I was completely wrong when I called this question out on being tricky. It was literally a major incident at a fuel facility. I thought that was going to be like a euphemism for like a fire at an animal feed facility or something like that. But no, it was literally a nuclear incident. Okay, cool. I'll stop trying to be tricky on this. I just went straight on at the top where I was like, nuclear something, probably.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You were right. You were right. Straight in there. I can't believe that you thought they were going to prop up chairs with it. I don't know. Some physical use of a coin. Like when your table at the restaurant is like a little wobbly. It's like folding up.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I just would think that the government would be able to figure something out without going around with an upside down hat. Like, please, please. Yeah, exactly. Did it happen to be time pressure? I don't know. Yes, exactly. The reason that the government collected five yen from citizens
Starting point is 00:30:57 was because it was testing the coins for radiation. We have unlocked the shiny bonus question, folks, because that was some very fast play. So good luck with this. Why was Marco Polo Airport paid to divide one of its baggage carousels into 37 sections? And one more time. Why was Marco Polo Airport paid to divide
Starting point is 00:31:19 one of its baggage carousels into 37 sections? Economy, premium economy. Business, premium business. Gold medallion. Zeroth class, like how many, how many? Oh, because it's like Marco Polo. You're looking like, oh, it's lost. Try to find me.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Marco Polo Airport is in Venice. Yes, it is. I know that. Okay, 37 different sections. 37 is kind of a random number for them to choose. Prime number. I don't think that matters. 37 different... Like, was it still...
Starting point is 00:31:54 Did they physically take it apart? No, I'll give you that. And 37 does sound like a random number, but it is important here. There wouldn't be another number like this that would work. I guess technically they could make it 38, but 37 is what they went with. Is the baggage carousel a special shape? Like maybe it's got like, I don't know, 37 sides or something, I don't know. Were they trying to do like a 150 divided by 4 situation?
Starting point is 00:32:22 So it's 37.5. I don't really know why they would be doing that, but when you said 37 or 38, that's what I thought. It would have to be one or the other. And most people would just go with 37 for this. Did they have, like, 37 companies want to run ads on the belt? Oh, good thinking. I don't know why it would be 37, but... Okay, so the baggage claim claim I'm just speaking out loud
Starting point is 00:32:47 The baggage claim is where It's like a parade for all the bags And you pull them out Was there a lot of theft? It is a baggage parade yes I wonder if there was a lot of theft Because it's a touristy area And so then they were guarding them somehow
Starting point is 00:33:02 None of my ideas are good right now I'm just speaking because it was quiet. I was about to say, was it like Wheel of Fortune? You get to pick up the thing. Oh, Jordan, you just keep coming in with things on this question that are close, not quite right, but close. You've said a couple of things that were in the right area. Adverts and Wheel of Fortune.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Adverts and Wheel of Fortune. Okay. Random ad on your bag. Oh, they totally do that. They'd add an extra sticker on everyone's bag. Exactly. How has no airport done that yet? Copyright, patent pending.
Starting point is 00:33:36 You can't. Original idea, do not steal. Is that, okay, so depending on which of the 37 different bags or 37 different bags you're, or 37 different corrals your bag lands in, that's which like Venice riverboat person you get to take you to your hotel? Oh, that would be amazing. It's not that, but you're dancing around it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And Jordan, you're right, this is an advert. That's why they were paid. It is an advert. That's why they were paid. It is an advert. Is there a special hotel in Venice that's called, like, the Hotel 37 or something? Oh, isn't 37 a gambling thing? Roulette wheel? Roulette wheel. What was it advertising?
Starting point is 00:34:18 Put it all together. Like, you're nearly there. Okay, so it's an ad for the casino. It's an ad for the casino. So, why 37 sections? Oh, because one of you wins something. Oh, no. Depending on where your bag goes? No, the people waiting weren't going to get anything from here.
Starting point is 00:34:33 This is just an advert. They just painted it to look like a roulette wheel and... They painted it to look like a roulette wheel as an advert for the local casino. Why is it 37? Does a roulette wheel normally have 38? A roulette wheel has zero to 36. So it is 37 sections. There is a zero on which everything loses unless you specifically bet on it. That's the house edge. Okay, so I'm just imagining an alternate scenario where
Starting point is 00:34:59 your bags landed in red or black. It'd be so sad if your bag landed in the zero and then you had to swim to your hotel. They should do that. That would get way more press. I like the idea that there was actual betting going on on where the bags landed. So yeah, to picture it, like it is just a big round baggage carousel and they've just split it into sections, painted big old numbers on, made it look like a roulette wheel. And unfortunately that's as far as they took it because wherever your baggage landed that was that was it it was just the ad they didn't also like roll a big ball down the down the bag exactly i feel like that would make baggage claim like worse yeah baggage claim is already not very fun and now there's this added factor of everyone's trying to figure out like what happening. Not only am I
Starting point is 00:35:45 bags late, I've also just lost $20,000. At the start of the show then, I asked, according to the letterhead, who lives at 1928 Steamboat Lane? Does anyone want to take a shot of that before I give the answer? Okay, yeah. I thought this one might go
Starting point is 00:36:05 all together now. Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse is absolutely right. I will ask you why. 1928 and Steamboat? Steamboat Willie. Steamboat Willie was the first published Mickey Mouse cartoon in 1928. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And if you go online and you are someone taking the kids to Disney World you can print out a letter from Mickey Mouse on headed paper that says he can't tell you
Starting point is 00:36:31 how excited all his pals are that you're coming to Disney World aww cute I got to meet him last time I was at Disney he's nice
Starting point is 00:36:38 he talks now it's weird like out loud he didn't talk to me oh ok some of the some of the Mickey costumes for like the meet and greets It's weird. Like out loud. It didn't talk to me. Oh. Okay. Some of the Mickey costumes for like the meet and greets now have a moving... There are multiple?
Starting point is 00:36:52 What are you saying? They have moving mouths and an operator in the back with a soundboard that can kind of cue in various phrases for the kids. Ah. can kind of cue in various phrases for the kids. Ah. The plan was that they were going to give everyone the magic bands in Disney World, like let them track you around the park
Starting point is 00:37:11 and act as charge cards. And you could put the kid's name on that so Mickey would recognize them and say hi. And I don't think that ever actually got published. Oh, that's clever though. It is. I think they just found it a bit too creepy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Disney do have some amazing animatronic and sound control stuff. I was on a Disney TV show this year that I can't tell you what it was yet, where they did have characters with animatronic heads and people remote controlling them. The tech they have for that sort of thing is amazing. With that, congratulations to all our players for getting through another episode. We will start with the new person. Abi, where can people find you? What are you up to? You'll be able to find me on Philosophy Tube. My movie will be on Nebula next year. You will also be able to see me in a couple of TV shows. I can't tell you what they are yet, but I can tell you I have stuff coming out with Disney and also with HBO next year. Jordan. You can find me by Googling my name. I am also a Nebula.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And then you can find me somewhere in Boston attempting to convince my committee to let me leave. And Annie. There's a lot of platforms, but I'm on Instagram a lot. Also, Massad on Twitter, Depths of Wikipedia, and I'm Annie Rawrida. And if you want to know more about this show, you can do that at lateralcast.com. We are at Lateral Cast on basically every social network,
Starting point is 00:38:31 and you can catch video highlights multiple times a week at youtube.com slash lateralcast. Thank you very much to Annie Rauwerda. Ah, thank you. You're welcome. I don't really know what to say. What do I say? I threw to you without any warning there And you know what? We'll stick with it
Starting point is 00:38:49 Jordan Harrod Thanks for having me And Abigail Thorne Thank you for having me I've been Tom Scott You guys nailed it I don't know what You had to go first
Starting point is 00:38:59 That was not an obvious entrance for me.

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