Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Federal Judge Gives SIMPLE ROADMAP to Throw Trump in Prison
Episode Date: August 15, 2023Michael Popok of Legal AF analyzing a federal judge recently jailing until trial the founder of FTX Sam Bankman Fried for violating terms of his release from custody on criminal fraud charges, with wh...at that could mean for Trump when, not if, he violates Judge Chutkan’s commands not to interfere with witnesses, future jurors, or the proper administration of justice in her courtroom. Go to https://neurohacker.com/LEGAL for up to 50% off Qualia Senolytic and as a listener of The LEGALAF use code LEGAL at checkout for an extra 15% off your first purchase! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 American Psyop: https://pod.link/1652143101 Burn the Boats: https://pod.link/1485464343 Majority 54: https://pod.link/1309354521 Political Beatdown: https://pod.link/1669634407 Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://pod.link/1676844320 MAGA Uncovered: https://pod.link/1690214260 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is Michael Popak, legal AF.
There's a lot of talk right now based on the new protective order that was
entered by Judge Chuck in against Donald Trump and his team as they continue to
try to interfere with the proper administration of justice, witness
tamper and impact improperly and pollute the future jury pool.
Judge Chuck in unlike judge cannon down Florida, has made it clear, based on words
that she said in the courtroom, and that's reflected in her protective order, that this
is just another criminal defendant in front of her, one that is currently out on bond
conditions, which require him not to tamper with witnesses or evidence, and that his day
job, her words not mine, may be running for
the presidency of the United States, but to her, politics stays at the courthouse steps
before he enters the room, and she's not going to give him any slack or quarter. In fact,
she said she's very concerned that anything that he says or his lawyers say, and they've been
they've been pound in the pavement going on every
new show that'll have him, especially John Loro and Sarah gets for Donald Trump like his
former lawyers that already left or got fired like Jim trusty who were trying to stay relevant
or Evan Quirkland.
They're all going on television as shills, right, as proxies for Donald Trump. And the judge has said, if you, if this crosses lines and starts looking more like witness
tampering and jury interference and less like legitimate First Amendment speech for a campaign
for the presidency, I'm going to do whatever's necessary to protect the sanctity of the trial and
the judicial administration process, because that's the job that I was appointed to do whatever is necessary to protect the sanctity of the trial and the judicial
administration process because that's the job that I was appointed to do.
And with that in mind, some people might be thinking, oh, idle words, what could a federal
judge do if you violate their orders, their edicts, their directions, their instructions?
And I'm here to tell you,
as a practicing federal trial lawyer,
for more than 32 years,
don't mess around with a person who's wearing a black robe
and has a lifetime appointment.
There is no more serious direction or instruction
that you can get than in a criminal case by a federal judge.
And just to show you the comparing contrast here
or the comparing compare, what could
happen? We have a version of it that Donald Trump and his lawyers must be aware of because
a judge that they are in a, in effect, related to and have a case in front of just sent a
lead criminal defendant to jail to federal detention because he violated the terms of his
release from custody, from his bond conditions. And it doesn't matter who it is. In this case,
it's Sam Bankman-Free, the former founder of FTX, the cryptocurrency concern in firm and judge Lewis Kaplan, a federal judge
who's up in New York and the Southern District of New York, but very well respected.
He just out of hearing brought together by a filing by the Department of Justice, arguing
that Sandbankman freed improperly leaked almost like revenge porn, romantic writings and musings
and pieces of diary.
Sound familiar with the Hunter Biden and the daughter for Joe Biden being leaked by Republican
operatives.
Sandbankman freed sitting and awaiting a multi billion dollar fraud criminal case brought
by the Eastern District of New York
through the Department of Justice decided he was going to leak his former girlfriend who's
testifying against him, right? Her most private intimate thoughts contained in a diary that he
had because he used to be the boyfriend and he leaked it to the New York Times and they published
it and right away the Justice Department, the Eastern District of New York Times and they published it and right away, the
Justice Department, the Eastern District of New York, US Attorney's Office, put it in
front of Judge Lewis Kaplan. What's the link between Judge Lewis Kaplan and Donald Trump?
That's where the E. Jean Carroll sex, assault, battery, and defamation cases have been tried
against Donald Trump. And he's lost at every term,
every turn against, against E. Jean Carroll. One of the reasons is because Lewis Kaplan,
the judge, has ruled against Donald Trump every time because there's no merit to any of his
arguments. Why am I comparing or showing you what could happen? Because Sam Bankman freed
was such a narcissist and so full of himself that he thought
under house arrest, it would be appropriate to try to bash and undermine the credibility
of a witness against him, in other words, witness tamper.
And by doing so, releasing, like I said, like revenge born, her diary and intimate thoughts
that ended up publishing the New York Times,
almost like a shot across the bow, telling his old girlfriend, I have more.
And if you don't stop testifying against me and cooperating with the government, you're
going to be terribly embarrassed in the paper.
Well, the Department of Justice brought that to Judge Lewis Kaplan's attention.
And he looked over the bond conditions and the conditions of his release,
just like conditions that have been put against Donald Trump and said, I think, sir,
that you have violated them. And now you don't get the luxury of staying out of jail or on
house arrest on a bond while you await trial. Now for the next six or eight months,
you get to go stay in an orange or I think they're
Gray jumpsuit in the federal detention center and we'll see you at the appropriate times at different intervals in your case. So Donald Trump
Who continues to play with fire?
Right, he's not like the little child that puts his hand on the stove. He at times puts his entire face on the stove to see what he can get
away with until somebody puts him in his place. Now, Judge Chutkin, who's in presiding over
the criminal Jan 6th indictment case against Donald Trump, has also similarly first warned
Donald Trump and his lawyers just in the last couple of days. She is set up as I said on the legal AF podcast
this past weekend, trip wires, trigger wires, right, attached to mine to landmines, waiting
for Donald Trump and his lawyers to trigger them and blow off their legs. And Donald Trump
is so undisciplined and is so rogue that he'll set these things off.
He'll trigger these bombs that have been set.
And he'll do it, and I'll try to argue
with some sort of first amendment right to do it
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to happen is in the next, I don't know, 30, 60, 90 days, it took Sandbankman free about
four months to screw up. I think it'll happen sooner for Donald Trump. For the Department of Justice, who is scouring the internet and the dark recesses
of the dark web and right wing media,
looking for anything that Donald Trump says anywhere
on a podcast, on an interview,
at a rally, at a fundraiser, in a, in a, in a mallar,
in an email, in a social media posting,
and take that, type it up, and send it right in
to Judge Chut Chuck and say,
see, you told him not to witness tamper. You told him, your honor, not to interfere with
the administration of justice. You told him not to interfere with the ability to pick
a fair jury pool and impartial jury pool. And he's done just that. Here's example, A, B,
C, D, E, F, down to double Z. And they, they don't play either, Jack Smith in the Department of Justice.
And they're smarter and have more power and have more bandwidth than the lawyers representing
Donald Trump, which are apparently so outmatched and don't have the
resources that remember when they argued against the protective order that just got entered,
they said they wanted volunteer lawyers and other consultants to be able to assist them.
That's because Donald Trump is running out of money.
I'll do another hot take about how low the coffers are. Right? Every, you
know, this dollars aren't going on radio, radio, uh, uh, buys radio ad buys or TV ad buys
or to hold a giant rally. That's why he hasn't had a lot of him lately, where if he's had
him, nobody shows up because he's running out of money because the lawyers are sucking
it out. Right? And he's upset about it. Talk about that in another hot tick. But my point
here is judge Chutkin is going to pull him into a hearing. And he's going to say, you and your
two lawyers, I gave you a warning once before one more time. And you're going to be taken off the
campaign trail and you're going to be cooling your heels in a federal detention center, how'd you like that?
So just wait.
If somebody at the level of sandbank been freed who thought he could turn over, you know,
his former lovers notes to the New York Times with impunity, thought he could get away
with it, you know, Donald Trump thinks he can get away with anything until he's proven
other until proven otherwise.
And that's why Judge Chutkin is so important here for democracy and for justice and drawing
that line in the sand and digging herself in.
And she let him, she let him, she let it be known to the lawyers on the protective order
hearing that they asked for who's in charge.
As I said on the Saturday, legal AF, it was like a laser beam.
It was like, you ever saw the movie, Honey, I shrunk the kids?
This was, this was federal judge shrunk former president.
It was like a laser beam that shrunk Donald Trump down to about two and a half feet tall
as she sat appropriately 10 feet above everyone on her bench wearing a black robe and
having the American flag behind her, and reminding him that he is a criminal defendant.
In fact, she said more than once in that hearing, his first amendment rights have to yield
to the fact that he is a criminal defendant and the administration of justice is my primary
concern.
So all you have to know, that means she's on
the right path compared to the judge in Miami
in Fort Pierce, in South Florida,
who always seems to get off on the wrong foot
in her analysis,
because she starts with the premise
that Donald Trump should be given special accommodations,
special dispensation, and Judge Chuckin
let it be known, not in my courthouse, not in my courtroom,
and not in this case.
Which is of course, if let has led Donald Trump
to then mercilessly attack her,
the only one he doesn't attack is Eileen Cannon.
You never see him say anything nasty about Eileen Cannon,
but against Tanya Chuckin,
oh, an Obama liberal
appointment. She was confirmed almost without opposition by the Senate in 2009. I think it
was 95 to zero. Okay. Her husband is also a judge who was appointed by Obama to be a
DC superior court judge. So being a judge runs in the family.
She had been a corporate lawyer,
and including doing very complicated cases
and defensive cases, mainly on corporation side,
not on some sort of liberal grassroots side.
She was with Boy Schiller, one of the largest law firms
in the country that does this kind of corporate dispute type work. And she was a partner there and tried more than 20 cases.
And she's tried hundreds of cases or had them tried as she presided over them in the district of
Columbia. She shortlist for the Supreme Court as far as I'm concerned had been for a long,
long time. If Joe Biden never gets another chance to appoint somebody on the Supreme Court.
So the takeaway on this particular hot tick is, Tonya Chutkin has drawn lines, multiple
lines in the sand.
I like to think of them as tripwires.
Donald Trump will invariably trip over them and blow off his limbs. And as a result, he'll be back in that courtroom
for violation of her orders about protecting
and preserving the sanctity of the administration
of justice.
And if he doesn't cut it out and knock it off
and stop trying to abuse the process,
future jurors and witnesses who as the judge noted
can't protect themselves.
She'll have to.
Part of it may be putting him off the campaign trail and in some sort of house arrest or
detention.
We shall see what happens next.
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