Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Ivanka LOSES BIG after THROWING TANTRUM in Court Over TESTIMONY
Episode Date: November 3, 2023MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the appeal by Ivanka Trump over her testimony in the New York Attorney General Civil Fraud case and the swift rejection of her motion to stay the entire trial.... Get you FREE Quote today at https://SelectQuote.com today! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And that's really all there is to it.
That was Ivanka Trump as a little brat.
Now as a grown up brat, Ivanka Trump just got swatted down by the New York appellate division when Ivanka Trump sought
an emergency appeal to try to block the New York attorney general civil fraud trial
from proceeding further.
That's right.
Ivanka Trump not only appealed the decision by the judge presiding over the New York
attorney general civil fraud case
judge Arthur and Goran as the case is now in its fifth week when judging Goran rule
that even though she's no longer a defendant, she would have to testify next week during
the sixth week of the New York Attorney General civil fraud trial.
She not only appealed that decision, but she went to the appellate division
and said, because her testimony is scheduled to take place in the middle of a school week,
I kid you not. She cited the fact that it was the middle of a school week. That's why I showed you
that clip at the beginning, because it's the most immature argument imaginable that she was too busy and it would cause her an
undue hardship to have to testify.
So she not only said to the court of appeal, can you reverse judge and goreons decision
compelling me to testify in the case?
She said, you should stop the entire trial for me, Ivanka, even though I'm no longer
a defendant because the appellate
division said the claims, at least that relate to her were outside of the statute of limitation.
She says, I'm a third party witness, and I want you to stop the entire case just because I said.
So here's the order from the appellate division. It was a short and very tse order, pull it up right here.
Application for interim stay pending decision
on the motion is denied, dated November 2nd, 2023.
And so Ivanka Trump is arguing that she should not have
to testify at all and that the trial should be stopped.
So with this order, simply says is that we are not stopping the trial.
So if Donald Trump thought he was going to be using this, which I'm sure he thought
he was going to try to do so that he doesn't have to testify next week after Eric and
Don Jr. testified and by the way, did the most horrific job ever.
The court said, what are you talking about?
The appellate division.
This case is going to be proceeding
so Ivanka's request is denied,
but I want you to think about this.
If we just take away all of the facts
for a second in the case,
even though facts and evidence matters,
just think about if you had a family member
who you believed was being falsely accused of something. And you believed that
you had the information to help those family members out. Could you, unless you despise
the family member, could which you shouldn't, but who know, but I don't know the situation.
Could you imagine a situation where you would not voluntarily show up to try to help your
family member who you believe to be falsely accused of something?
So I want you to think about it from this perspective.
If Ivanka Trump truly believed that her family members were being falsely accused by the
New York Attorney General in the Civil Fraud Case, think about it from that from that angle. She's deciding that
she does not want to testify. And so she's made all of these arguments why she
shouldn't testify. The most ridiculous one is the one she made to the appellate
division when requesting the stay, by the way, by saying, because it is a school
week and that she has children, that takes priority
over a court case.
Well, must be nice to make that type of argument to her.
How entitled and privileged can you be
to even think that's an argument that you could make?
I mean, it's almost as absurd,
although the entitlement would be much higher
what Ivanka did to say, you know what the dog ate my homework for her to say
You know what my own personal family issues are more important than the New York Attorney General civil fraud case
I don't know that must be nice, but the other things that she argued is that I'm now a Florida resident
I'm no longer a New York resident. I have no attachment to the state of New
York was one of the arguments she made. She also said, but this court case is just about
the damages. Judge and Goran, you already found that my brothers and my father were liable.
So why do you even need me here? What information can I provide to you? Since they're already my testimony's
just going to be redundant. You don't need me to testify. And then Ivank also argued,
I have what's the Trump organization? I have no attachment to the Trump organization.
I don't do anything with the Trump organization anymore to which judge and go on responded. What to which the New York attorney general responded?
What of course you do when the Trump organization sold the old postal office, you got money.
Lots of it. Who pays your credit card bills? Oh, is that the Trump organization? Who pays for your
apartment? Oh, is that the Trump organization?
Your names are all over these.
What do you mean you don't have a relationship with this case?
Or you don't have a relationship with the Trump organization?
There is jurisdiction in New York
and you have to show up just like any of us would have to show up.
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Here's what the court said, and I thought this was very powerful.
This is what Judge Ingoron said about the trial and about Ivanka's motion to try to
not have to testify.
This is from Judge Angora. Angora said this on October 27th. She then filed an appeal
to Angora's order. Here's the order right here. And then she filed this motion to stay. The
motion to stay is what was denied. Here's what Judge Angora said. Let me start with two basic
ancient principles for which no citation is necessary. A trial is a search for the truth
and the laws entitled to every person's evidence. On the other hand, we don't compel people to
testify unless the court has personal jurisdiction over them. As we learned in law school in the
international shoe case, personal jurisdiction to satisfy due process has two elements. Notice and power. Here, the power of the core to compel
mistrump into court to testify. In this case, notice is clear, which is why we are here,
and in any event, I think it was essentially conceded by Ivanka's attorney.
I find the power element is also clearly satisfied here. The due process element is satisfied where the non-domiciliary
has minimum contacts with New York State and based upon those contacts, the non-contacts,
the non-domiciliary could or should have reasonably anticipated being held into court. And that's more
or less an exact quote or paraphrase from this
case. So just to understand what judge and gore on saying is, is that for New York judge, in a
civil case, criminals different because criminal, there are statutes that allow a court to get jurisdiction
of somebody outside of the state by making a finding.
And then the prosecutors have to then bring the courts finding into the other state and
then get that court to compel the person where there is jurisdiction to go into another
state.
So, civils cases different.
And here, what Judge and Goran saying is that the standard for someone who claims to
not be dominexiled, not live in New York,
Ivanka claims she lives in Florida, is could they or should they have reasonably anticipated
being held into this court in New York? Also, this phrase is ingrained in all lawyers.
Quote, Miss Trump has clearly availed herself of the privilege of doing business in New York.
Finally, plaintiffs papers make abundantly clear
by documentary evidence that Miss Trump
owns property in New York in apartment
and has done business in New York with the Trump organization,
even Miss Trump's own papers admit that she is occasionally
here.
With all due respect to her lawyer,
the record is devoid of any evidence because we don't
have a sworn statement from Miss Trump that she does not currently or is not recently done
business here.
The time to submit any such affidavit in the first place was in the moving papers.
Move it may the argument, there is no jurisdiction over her, and it was her burden to provide an affidavit
of someone with personal knowledge, meaning herself to substantiate that.
It is black letter law that you may not use a reply brief to state facts that should
have been in your moving papers.
Basically, we don't know what she does or doesn't do because only she could tell us, and
now it's too late to tell us that now that was that should have been could only have
been made when she moved claiming there was no jurisdiction.
That's what you do in the motion to quash the subpoena.
And I've seen that all of the time.
So the motion is denied.
Right.
So there you have judge and go on saying again, Trump's, you're not putting forward evidence.
The evidence, if you claim that there was not jurisdiction was to put an affidavit under
penalty of perjury signed by Ivanka Trump, you did not do that.
So you've not put forward a centilla of evidence.
On the other hand, the New York attorney general, they did an affidavit and they put the
evidence and they show that she has these contacts with the state of New York.
So your motion is denied.
Then Ivanka goes to the appeals court, the appellate division.
They reject her stay to block the case.
So not a great day for Ivanka, but a great day for justice.
And again, it's not judge and goreons like
I don't like Ivanka. I don't like Donald. Therefore, I'm doing, no, submit the evidence,
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