Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Jack Smith DROPS THE HAMMER on Trump World Over and Over Again

Episode Date: February 12, 2023

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Special counsel Jack Smith was on fire this week issuing subpoenas to former vice president Mike Pence and former Donald Trump's national security advisor Robert O. Bryant. We also learned that Trump's attorney is current attorney. Evan Corcoran testified before the criminal grand jury in Washington, DC where special counsel Jack Smith is presenting evidence. Remind me what Maga stands for again. Make attorneys get attorneys.

And how about Trump's laptop from hell? We learned this week that back in January, Donald Trump's other lawyer, Jim trustee, also known as Jim Don't Trust Me, turned over an additional folder with classification markings over to the Department of Justice that was found in Mar-a-Lago. And there was also a laptop belonging to a current Trump aid with classified materials related to that folder that was also uncovered, apparently, by Trump's lawyer, that was turned over to the FBI and the Department of Justice.

Look, everything, and I mean everything, the Maga Republicans accused Democrats, which Democrats, by and large, don't do, is exactly the conduct that Maga Republicans do all of the time. It's all projection. As Yoda would say, the projection is strong, Obi-Wan, and the projection was on full display in these ridiculous maga-led house of representatives. Here, this is what they wanted to do with the control of the house of representatives. The Maga Republicans held an oversight committee hearing. It should even be called that, but that's what the committee's called, with former Twitter executives.

And what the Magger Republicans wanted to do is yell at them for blocking Magger Republicans because the Magger Republicans spread COVID disinformation and promoted Putin conspiracy theories and hate. And then the Maga Republicans also held a hearing and they so called subcommittee on the Department of Justice and FBI weaponization. That's what the Maga Republicans called it. But the Maga Republicans got destroyed at these hearings. And then the Democrats exposed

that the Maga Republicans in Trump engaged in everything that they were accusing President Biden and Democrats of. And I love this. I love that Democrats are just punching back with the truth. Haven't really seen the Democrats this aggressive before and I like what I am seeing. And you know what it is, Pope, here's my theory. I think Republicans have enjoyed smelling their own fascist farts on Fox so much that they forgot that they smell like traitorous filth and that they are also not the sharpest

tools in the shed. And Democrats have some really smart people. And in this format where it's not quick cuts and it's not sound bites, you can really expose these mega Republicans in that format. Like the Democrats basically hijacked these committees to prove what a trader, Donald Trump was. Also, the Midas Touch Networks very own,

Michael Cohen met with the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg this week as things heat up there and Alvin Bragg's criminal investigation of Donald Trump and Cohen broke it with an exclusive here on the Midas Touch that he would be sitting with Alvin Bragg and then Cohen also gave us the exclusive He's gonna be going back very soon for a 16th meeting that bodes well that an indictment is coming soon. That's why you have these increased frequency of of meetings. Finally, Dominions, $1.6 billion lawsuit against Fox is set to go to trial in April and at a status conference this week, Dominion called that Fox for failing to produce evidence or should we say perhaps spolliating or destroying evidence and Dominion

wants to keep that April trial date. Okay, so indictment watch, Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Foni Willis, who will indict first on trial watch. We've got dominion versus Fox in April, E. Jean Carol versus Trump in April, the proud boy, seditious conspiracy trial taken place right now. And I guess because I'm given a lot of references to smells in that opening, it smells like justice is here. I like that scent at least.

Popeyes, how are you, sir? To win great. Let me add onto your trial calendar. October 2nd, Manhattan Supreme Court, civil fraud trial, $250 million against Trump and 16 other defendants. We got a lot to talk about. Somewhere between the April trials that we talked about, Fox News and E. Jean Carroll,

the October trial against Trump and everybody else, we're going to have indictments. Now, I know people are getting frustrated by when we don't want to watch until you actually have the indictments, but that's not what this show is all about. This show is about real-time analysis and updates about events that are important for people to know at the intersection of long politics. And we got a great show today. And Popock, you're changing up the glasses now every show. We're going to do a different glasses. Every other show. I like it. The mightest mighty likes it. The legal A. F.ers like it. Now, my intro was a little bit long. People want to hear

from Popeye. Popeye, tell us why this was such a monumental week in special counsel, Jack Smith's criminal investigation with the subpoenas that were out to pens to O'Brien, Evan Corcoran. Love to hear your take here. Yeah, you have a former vice president of the United States has been subpoenaed criminally to appear before a grand jury. Let's just, let's just, we've, we kind of have gotten a little fatigue not here at legal AF in our audience,

but in general with, with things and we forget how momentous, how historic they are. And that, this vice president, and it's not the result of a surprise. I don't want people reading headlines. This is why they come here, I think, to take away from it, like Pence woken up in the middle of the night, handed us a peanut for the grand jury. It is the result of months of negotiations that have been reported between Pence's people, his lawyers and the Department of Justice about getting him in. We can't tell yet whether he's being dragged in or, as some suspect, Pence wants the

subpoena to give him cover to be able to tell Grand jury what he believes. Now, look, Pence may not have been willing and didn't testify before the Jan 6th committee. But he has not been quiet or silent about the pressure that was put on him during January 6th to certify the election and his view based on his own analysis. But really, you know, he brought in Michael Ludic, the, the, the right wing, uh, Neocon Republican judge, a former judge who gave him the analysis that his role was merely ceremonial on Jan 6th and that the founding fathers would never have put into the hands of one person in a delicately balanced checks and balanced system the power to overthrow the country or to not recognize the will of the people. And so he wrote about that, Pence wrote about that in that memoir that I didn't read, this 500 page opus that he wrote a few months ago.

And, you know, he's, so he's been public. So he's not, he shouldn't be surprised. I don't believe this is about Mar-a-Lago. I think it's clear that Pence is being brought in, whether dragged in or not, to testify about the pressure that was put on him, the hang Mike Pence pressure, but including by the president then,

President of the United States, Donald Trump directly, because he even writes it as memoir, Pence does and says, I know I disappointed a dear friend in Donald Trump. What I'd, what disappoint that's, that's what stopping an insurrection has become disappointment. But, you know, one of the facts that came at a Jan sixth, even though it didn't come out of the mouths of Mike Petz, but from others around him, if you remember Ben, we talked about this at the time. He refused to get in the car of a secret service agent to be whisked away from the capital,

which of course would have delayed the peaceful transfer of power, and he refused to do that. And we gave him a little bit of credit thinking at the time he knew there was a coup of foot and that he refused to participate in it. Now he's going to have to stand and deliver in front of a grand jury sworn under oath to tell the truth and under the careful, but a sharp cross-examination, if you will, of prosecutors working under Jack Smith. So that Pence kind of took all the headlines, but the other people that you mentioned are equally as important for the different grand juries that are going on simultaneously. Robert O'Brien is interesting because Robert O'Brien had been National Security Council

advisor number four. He was the fourth and last one. He's been very public about Mike Pence doing the honorable thing. He's public that he almost resigned on Jan 6th because of what he observed happened at the Capitol, but did not. He's also one of the only officials in the Trump administration who did two things announced

out loud when it wasn't popular to do this. The Joe Biden had won the presidency. So he acknowledged from within the Trump Inter-Sanctum that Biden had won when Trump was refusing to acknowledge that and said he would participate in the peaceful transfer on the National Security Council side to all the counterparts with the Biden administration, which of course got him on the wrong side of Donald Trump because they didn't want a transition to anyone or anything. So O'Brien is interesting because he tries to act like he's a patriot.

And I think that's going to play against him. And that's what Jack Smith's people are hoping for is that he drops the executive privilege assertion. And that's going to be another fight they're going to have to have because he has put up the executive privilege before. His testimony is going to be about the, I think, and I think it's obvious about the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago and at other places. And what happened to them from White House to Mar-a-Lago?

Because if the National Security Council, senior advisor does it know that that shows there's another big problem. If he was cut out of the loop in that transfer, we're going to talk in the next segment about this, this new discovery in January of a laptop belonging to a, an aid of Donald Trump that now works at Save America Pack that downloaded all this classified information for what purpose to disseminate it to transmit it to third parties will get to that in a minute. But if either Robert O'Brien knows about this or he doesn't know about it and that fact alone is damning to Donald Trump that he cut out his own national security council advisor, the other people that Jack Smith is talking to or his people are talking to, not yet subpoenaing, but it's coming, are people like Chad Wolfe,

who was the acting Homeland Security Secretary acting because they couldn't get all of any of these people properly confirmed in time. And he's going to have to know, I would imagine, about the documents at Mar-a-Lago and the like. His deputy, Mr. Kuchinelli, Ken Kuchinelli, already testified. And then you've got the cherry on the top. You've got another lawyer, as you said, making a lawyer, making lawyers get, you know, making attorneys get attorneys.

Evan Corcoran, who has been a stalwart, spear, you know, tip of the spear for Donald Trump in court proceedings. But, you know, this is what happened. You lay down with a dog, you wake up with fleas. He and Christina Bob, now who has her own criminal defense lawyer, certified that the whole process

from the original demand by the National Archive that was rebuffed until there was a turnover of 15 boxes and 200 pages of classified documents. People forget that. That was the first wave. The Mar-a-Lago was the second wave. But who was involved? Evan Corcoran. Who helped negotiate?

Evan Corcoran. Who helped certify that this small batch of documents in a file folder about this big represented all of the documents that were classified through Christina Bob, Evan Corcoran, and then the moral, the execution of the moral logo search warrant. So Evan Corcoran has a lot of talking to do now. I'm sure he'll try to put up some sort of attorney client privilege. I'm sure a judge, chief judge, barrel howl in DC is gonna have to pick through all these privilege issues

to get them to testify. But if you're Donald Trump, I don't even know how the guy sleeps at night. But now you're one of your head lawyers is testifying against you at the grand jury. So those are the major developments in terms of who's in, who's going in. Now, some of these happened earlier,

but we're just learning about them now, so we're bringing it to the legal AF audience. And here was Trump's response last night after all of that was announced after it was announced that Corcoran had testified before the grand jury after the Pennsylvania after the O'Brien, subpoena Trump writes, will Trump hating prosecutor Jack Smith be investigating the fact that they spied on my campaign,

even as I was in the Oval Office, they stuffed the ballot boxes per 2000 mules, right? That's like literally just deciding Vladimir Putin at this point, per 2000 mules, used COVID to cheat that the FBI pushed Twitter and Facebook around, caused massive voter disruption and so much more. That's really what he should be looking at, not asking a very decent Mike Pence why he didn't send the votes back to state legislatures for scrutinizations, which he could have done. Get the rigors.

He writes with an exclamation point. And basically doubles down in the conspiracy theories, then doubles down on the illegality of throwing it to the state legislatures and not going through the electoral count process, not going through the constitutional process. You mentioned, Boboct Attorney Client Privilege. There are of course exceptions to the Attorney Client Privilege. Number one, if it's not a confidential communication between an attorney and their client, that's not a privileged communication.

So with Corcoran, Corcoran had a lot of interactions with the Department of Justice, with the FBI, with the National Archives on behalf of Donald Trump, but he was the point person having those communications. So all of the communications that he had with the FBI, with the DOJ, where we know that he was basically falsely saying that the documents had all been returned. They could question him on all of that. Why were you saying that? Why were you lying? The fact that they put forward a declaration through Christina Bob saying a diligent search was conducted and that here are all of the records back in June of 2022, which we know was false. I'm sure he was asked questions.

Well, tell us every one of the steps you took in that diligent search. And if the answer was, Donald Trump just told me, which I'm sure the answer is, or it could not have been a diligent search because we know that on August 8th, when the search warrant was executed, they found all of the records readily available right there, all these classified records, thousands upon thousands

of government records and over 100 additional classified records, in addition to the over 200 records, classified records that were turned over back in January of 2022. And then the 20 or so classified records that were turned over in that Redwell folder by Christina Bob You know, we had previously talked about here on legal AF How Christina Bob had met twice with the Department of Justice obviously before Corcoran

Testified testified before the grand jury and Christina Bob in her meetings One of the things that she talked about was how she wanted to add the language to her attestation, saying that a diligent search was based on what was told to me, because what she essentially admitted based on all the reporting that we have

is that she never conducted a search at all. She was simply told by Corcoran that a diligent search was done again, which we know to be completely false. Now, going back to the subpoena to former vice president Pence, one of the things we've talked about here on legal AF is while it's been incredibly frustrating the pace at which Merrick Garland's investigation was taking place. One of the reasons for that frustrating pace, though, is because as a former president of the United States,

Donald Trump is cloaked at least with a toolkit that most leave everybody other than the president doesn't have. And specifically, he can use the toolkit to try to delay and obstruct. In addition to the billionaire toolkit that's used by billionaires with powerful law firms to delay an obstruct. So you layer those two things on top of each other. And unfortunately, within our legal system, there is a lot of ability to delay.

And specifically, a former president can assert the executive privilege, even if they're asserting it falsely, and then the issue has to be litigated, like the attorney client privilege, right, which involves confidential communications between an attorney and a client. In theory, and executive privilege are these confidential communications that are being made with and about and to the executive branch, specifically to the president of the United States, and it's supposed to protect the deliberative process of the executive branch as it's being made. And look, there's a whole line of cases that would say that a former president can assert

the executive privilege over the current executive branch, regardless where there is a compelling need by the Department of Justice for specific information. They could override the executive privilege by making that showing a need for their criminal investigation. And in the brick by brick build that the Department of Justice was doing first under Marik Garland now under Jack Smith, they were able to secure the testimony and get around executive privilege based on critical rulings by the federal judge who oversees the grand

jury's federal judge, Barrel Howell. And so previous testimony before the grand jury was testimony by Mark Short, former VP Pence's former chief of staff, Greg Jacob, former VP Penses, former General Counsel, they legally had to assert executive privilege because Donald Trump had made the assertion when they testified first, then they were called back after they testified over the summer and Judge Barrow Howell made the ruling they had to testify in their communications with Donald Trump and executive privilege didn't apply. So they gave that testimony.

It was the same thing with the top White House, former top White House lawyers, Pat Sipaloni and Patrick Filman, who is Sipaloni's top deputy. They had to assert executive privilege, the federal judge overruled the executive privilege assertion by Donald Trump. They came back and they had to testify a second time. Had Merrick Garland not taken those steps and won those battles, we're in a very different

position right now. You likely couldn't even climb the ladder legally to get the testimony of Pence to show that Pence has unique sets of information. That is then critical to then overcome Donald Trump's executive privilege claim, because as soon as it was announced that Pence was being subpoenaed, what did Donald Trump do? He said that he's going to try to block it by claiming executive privilege and claiming any other privilege in the former president toolkit, which he's absolutely abusing and viewing it maliciously. But because the Department of Justice has executed this so diligently,

there's really no way right now that Pence is going to be able to wiggle out of it. And Pope, to your point where you mentioned these negotiations, it's all about leverage in the negotiation of you're going to testify because why is it a negotiation at all? In the normal course, Pence would say, look, I am what's called an apex employee. I'm the vice president of the United States. I shouldn't have to testify unless you can prove one that you can get around certain privileges and two that I possess unique knowledge. And if you just went right there and rushed it, you wouldn't get the testimony. So they've had to build and build and build and build. You did a great job pop up mentioning all

of the other people who have either been interviewed or who have gone before the grand jury, one other person who I'll mention now as well as Tom Fitton went before the grand jury. He runs, you just judicial watch. He's the guy who wears the tight shirts. He's kind of a wannabe lawyer, but he gives Donald Trump advice. And specifically, he gave Donald Trump advice about the documents that you could steal these records based on things that are not legal at all. And then Fitton also wrote the script for Donald Trump to declare victory, even though regardless of Trump losing the election and Trump followed that playbook. So a lot of activity going on, but this is a diligent effort.

That's why it's important that this isn't a sound bite show that we do on legal AF. It's explaining to you brick by brick by brick, what is going on? And to that point, Pope, brick by brick by brick, you know, you know, again, everything's projection, right? So these mega Republicans laptop from hell, laptop from hell. And now we are also learning that early in January, another lawyer for Trump, Jim trustee, aka Jim don't trust me. Basically, we gave, contacted the FBI, said there was another classified folder,

found at Mar-a-Lago with those classified marking that are empty where like no one knows like it. Where's the content? But then this is what was interesting in the report that there was this information about a laptop. So, what was the information in the laptop and why is this significant? Yeah, it's more than interesting. It is potentially devastating because, and I love your projection thing.

I'm not sure I ever saw that Star Wars episode that you were recanting, but recapping, but I got the point. Point is, he who lives by the laptop dies by the laptop. You make so much, much ado about nothing about, let me remind people, Hunter Biden was not elected president. Hunter Biden was not elected to anything. He's a private citizen, you know, he may not be the white sheep of the Biden family, but who cares?

I didn't vote for Hunter Biden, and whatever he's done in his life since, you know, he was a child forward is really no concern of mine when I'm trying to decide which party I'm going to be a member of and which president I'm going to vote for. But they spent an amazing amount of resources, even through to today with the congressional oversight committees, and judiciary committees we're going to talk about in a bit, going after Hunter Biden in the laptop that looks like he left that a repair shop near his home. But I'll tell you what he didn't do. He didn't have classified United States intelligence documents loaded onto an unsecure laptop

in the hands of one of his aides, this is Donald Trump, who now works for Save America Pack and had it on a thumb drive and on a laptop, which begs a couple of questions. One, why was Donald Trump having one of his people download and upload classified information, scan them in, because, you know, they were, there were once hard, hard copies, right? The National Security Council and the briefing books don't come in digital format. They're like books, they're documents.

That's why we keep saying folders and boxes. He digitized them, had an aid, put them on a laptop and a thumb drive and store them. Okay, that's if they stored them and didn't disseminate them. Where for what purpose were they loaded onto a laptop? Who had access to the laptop? And what happened to the documents when you look at the what we call the metadata, the META data, which shows a documents, origination, provenance changes, how it's transmitted, keystrokes and all of that. Where did it go? And what was Donald Trump going to do with it in digital format? So yes, they got around to finally

turning it over. The aide must have crapped his pants when he realized that he had, and he's probably realized it for a long time, that he had all this classified data on his laptop. And separately, just to remind everyone which we like to do, the Save America Pack is in the crosshairs itself of another grand jury led by Jack Smith looking at the $100 million grift of Donald Trump raising since November 2020 to today through save America pack and the big lie $100 million. And that's where this this aid currently sits. So oh, what a tangled web we weave save America pack laptops, classified documents for what purpose being loaded onto a laptop. This is now a whole new line of inquiry for the Department of Justice. Not just about,

hey, thank you for the laptop. Appreciate you. Here's your receipt. It's what the F, why, how, who, where did it go? What was his purpose? And now they're gonna have to bring people back in to the grand jury to answer these questions, including this aid. This aid better get his own lawyer, I'm sure he has it already. Preferably not one paid for by Donald Trump. And he's gonna have to sit and give testimony eventually

after being interviewed by the Department of Justice about who, what, where, and how related to the laptop incident. So you have two things that have been reported. In December, we didn't know it till this week. More Marilago papers, classified documents, not located in the original locations that we've all heard about,

not the pool equipment, lock door room, not this room, a whole other place in Mar-a-Lago. The lawyers found more classified documents. That's in December. In January, they stumbled upon the laptop. This is the gift that keeps on giving. For those that got distracted for a week or two because, oh, Joe Biden had a couple of pages also. Oh, look, Pence has him too. And let's stay focused, criminal investigation, criminal

indictment. It's not about having the cookie jars. It's about whether your hands are caught in the cookie jars. And that's what we're still finding with Donald Trump. So I think, I think now the focus bet is back on because there was a lot of like hand wringing, especially among Democrats, even among some of our co-akers about, oh, there goes the moral ago prosecution by Jack Smith because Trump, Biden had his own batch. It's completely and utterly different. Things like downloaded, scanned in classified documents into an unsecure laptop held by a aid works for the pack, that's going to give

renewed life if it, if it ever needed it to Jack Smith's investigation of the moral logo documents that aren't going anywhere. And, and, and just to wrap our last two segments together. The fact that Pence just got subpoenaed is probably at towards the end of the conclusion of that series of investigations, not towards the beginning. So if you're looking at the big clock in the sky that you and I are always watching and reporting on, it's just clicked a little bit closer to midnight as it relates to that investigation. And same thing midnight as it relates to that investigation. And same thing here, as it relates to Mar-a-Lago.

Mar-a-Lago's towards the end of the investigation and the decision whether to prosecute, not at the beginning, and things like the laptop are a gift to Jack Smith that I'm sure he and his people know what to do with. So here's the thing, when we make predictions on the Midest Touch Network, we're not psychics, okay, number one. And nor are we making the wildly, you know, wild predictions. And so even when

it came to the midterm elections, when all of the large media networks were saying, red wave, red wave, red wave, and we at the Midas Touch Network were saying, no, there's not going to be a red wave. It's going to be very close. Democrats are going to keep the Senate. The House is going to be very close. I'm not really sure the Democrats are going to win, but it's going to be much closer than anybody could possibly imagine. And Democrats have a shot.

And then everyone was like, how'd you predict that? How'd you predict that? And it was like, well, we were just following the data. And ultimately, the data doesn't, it doesn't mean that that's how the outcomes always going to turn out. But if you follow the actual data and you do not find yourself just trapped in narratives that other people with agendas are pushing, then I think you could say, well, here's what I think is happening and here's why. So on legal AF, when we believe indictments are coming for Donald Trump, it's not like

to give you hope, him or whatever it is. It's like all we know based on all of our years and experience as lawyers and doing a lot of the research, you know, and talking to you about the pace of grand jury investigations, the teams that are involved and kind of breaking it down like that, we could say, look, these are all of the signs that an indictment is coming, that an indictment is relatively imminent, and here's why. Doesn't mean I could say 100%,

that's absolutely going to happen, but that's obviously what's reflective of the data. And we follow data here on the Midas Touch Network. There's one other, or two other things I wanna point out, Popeye, one of the crimes that issue with copying classified information in any form, yet alone on a laptop is that's one of the crimes that were identified in the search warrant where a

magistrate judge found probable cause that Donald Trump was engaged in criminal conduct at Mar-a-Lago back on August 5th with the search warrant being executed on August 8th of 2022. One of those crimes was the espionage act 18 USC section 793 and specifically as you go into it as subsection B which talks about the copying. It talks about whoever for the purpose of after said with the intent or reason to believe copies takes makes obtains attempts to, make, obtain any sketch, photograph, photograph, a negative blueprint plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, et cetera. That could be a per se violation of the espionage. Like, that's even if someone you were to take the classified information and just write

about it and take notes on it and keep that separately, that's a crime, especially putting it on some AIDS laptop is a crime. One other point to make before moving on to the next topic though, I want to mention her when we talk about make attorneys get attorneys as well, we mentioned Christine de Bobb already, but some of the reporting that came out at the end of last week as well is that Alina Habba was contacted at the end of 2022 by the Department of Justice and the FBI as well because in connection with New York Attorney General Latisha James, special proceeding, which ended up leading to the civil fraud lawsuit, which is seeking

approximately $250 million from Donald Trump as adult children, the Trump organization, and several other defendants. That's the case that's going to trial on October 2nd, October 2nd or 3rd of 2023 that we put out and that we put out in our, we put out in our trial watch. She had signed a declaration under penalty of perjury because Trump was held in contempt in the special proceeding for not turning over records. And she said back in May of 2022 in the special proceeding that had not yet been a civil lawsuit, yet because the civil lawsuit was filed in September of 2022, that she conducted a diligent search of Trump's office at Mar-a-Lago and found no responsive documents at all to the requests by Leticia James. So not only did she apparently lie and commit perjury in New

York Attorney General Leticia James, special proceeding by saying she didn't find any responsive documents, but because she searched the area where only a few months later in August it was determined that there were classified records being kept. She would have searched and she that there were classified records being kept. She would have searched and she would have seen classified records. She was not permitted to see, which also were potentially responsive in the New York. So she committed like double fraud, fraud in the New York AG's case, and access to classified records that she wasn't supposed to have regarding Donald Trump's theft of classified records.

So, you know, I've always been saying it's a matter of time before she suffers the fate of Giuliani's and Sydney Powell's. And, you know, it's like you see these other lawyers who are going through what they went through for Trump. And yet, there still is what I like to call him kamikaze, Trump fascist lawyers who line up for this crap as unbelievable. This is why you don't vouch for clients.

First of all, you don't take clients unless you feel you can vouch for them, right? I fire clients if I'm not comfortable with their ability to tell the truth and follow my advice. Having said that, there's a reason you don't vouch for clients, even ones that you've known for a long, long time, and you don't make yourself a witness in the case

that you're handling for them. I would have never, she had no choice but to go do it herself like a DIY down in Florida and search his office, but that she put herself in that position. I would never have done that. I would have hired an outside company to go have done that, reported it back to me, and then I would have attached it somehow to some declaration or affidavit of mine that I filed off in state or federal court, in which I said, you know, I hired a company, the company,

look, she made herself witness number one, and now, as you said, a totally prone and exposed for the Department of Justice to say, Hey, when you were looking through that desk, what about those classified documents that were in top drawer number, you know, because they have a full record of exactly what they took down and video record of all of it to. This is the fascist fame they seek and they ultimately suffer the fate of fascist fools. We have a lot to discuss here on legal AF, specifically. Popox got a great breakdown of how these MAGA

House of Representative Committee hearings completely backfired. We're going to talk about Michael Cohen meeting with the Manhattan District Attorney and of course the $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox by Dominion, which is set to go to trial. In April, there is a major, major, major allegations being leveled by Dominion that Fox is still covering up documents. We're going to talk about that right when we come back from these messages here on legal AF brought to you by your favorite Midas touch brother, Jordy, my Celis.

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People love Jordy as the ad reader. I want to especially think our Sponsors as well though because look this pro democracy content They lean in our sponsors, you know by sponsoring our program and so I just want to thank them all for supporting the show Popo so this week we saw there was no There is not a line from Star Wars you mentioned it earlier that the projection is strong Obi-Wan that's just me that was me making that up but the projection was strong Michael this is an Easter egg he just did Yoda I hope I did you I hope that's what I don't

sound like all the time but so these two committee hearings that started off with the Twitter one and in the Twitter hearing former Twitter executives were there and then people like Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert and all these mega-public and just like yelled at them, you know, why did you shadow ban me? Why did you block me? You know, and then the Twitter executives were like, because you spread COVID disinformation and you lied about the pandemic and you spread Russian disinformation

and you like stalked survivors of school shootings and you praised Alexander. We can go on a list of the reasons there are multiple violations of basic human decency. But why? That's what you call a counter punch. See, here's the thing, Pope, these mega Republicans, as I mentioned, probably in artfully, but perhaps humorously or perhaps disgustingly in the intro.

So I won't say it again, but they live in their own mega fascist bubble where they go on Fox and O.A.N. and all of these places, right? And they are given a softball like, so tell me about the weaponization. And then they'll go, well, the weaponization and then Hannity or whoever will go, yeah, these Democrats are despicable. It's just disinformation right into the veins, but these people are idiots.

And that's why they hate our court system. And that's why they lose all of their court cases, you know, usually where, especially where the court cases are tinged with, you know with their political conspiracies is because they're not fact-based. These committee hearings, though, are so incredible because you've got really intelligent Democrats, especially some of the new Democrats as well.

You've got Dan Goldman, for example. You have former federal prosecutors. I mean, Jamie Raskin, Harvard Educated Lawyer, Dan Goldman from New York, who was the first impeachment, led the first impeachment hearing as counsel there and was a former federal prosecutor. You know, and then you got people like Coma and Bobert, and they think they're having these peri-mason moments, right, where they're like, well, let me tell you this, you know, or Jim Jordan basically, you know, going wild with like his board.

And then you have people like Katie Porter, like, you're a moron. Let me explain to you why you're a moron. And Democrats basically showed in all of this that mega Republicans are doing everything they're accusing Democrats of doing, which Democrats are not doing. The Maga Republicans are doing. They had to take breaks. These Maga Republicans, I got to go to the restroom. But we saw a really smart and sharp Democratic party, really punching back.

Tell us about these hearings, Pope. Well, first of all, if we're going to talk about weaponization, let's talk about it in a good way. Hakeem Jeffries in a masterstroke put just the right people who are so much brighter than their counterparts that are chairing and co-chairing and in the majority on these committees. I mean, they learn, the Democrats learn from the Gen 6 committee, the following lesson.

Don't do what the Republicans did, which was to try to take your ball and go home because there's another ball and the game was still being played. And so that didn't work. That just left them on the outside not being able to do daily press conferences or in real time push back against the Gen 6 committee. The Democrats were going to make that mistake again, you know, Hakeem Jeffries in working with his counterpart McCarthy was like, okay, I get five seats on there. Okay, here's who I'm going to put on Jamie Raskin, Dan Goldman, Dan Goldman, former senior council legal council for the, uh, impeachment managers

of the house in the Ukraine impeachment. Who knows more about things related to Ukraine? Donald Trump's corruption related to Ukraine and Joe Biden in terms of having any kind of a veracity or credibility than Dan Goldman. Dan Goldman or the chairman from Kentucky, Jim Comer, whose big claim to fame and big focal point for his entire hearing was to have the New York Post. This was their great scheme. The New York Post, which let me just tell people who don't live in and around New York,

the New York Post is not the paper of record. It is not a place where you go for breaking investigative journalism. Although it was founded by Alexander Hamilton, little known fact, it is never won a Pulitzer Prize or any prize for investigative journalism ever in its history. This is not where you go for that. You know what you go for? I go for it. You go for the sports section, but you don't go for like headline, Hunter Biden's laptop.

This is how they drove or tried to drive the messaging. So let's start with Dan Goldman versus Comer, which is the bathroom break one that you talked about. And I did a little bit of a hot take on it. Comer starts with, let's talk about corruption and Biden. And here's the equation that Comer set up, which each piece is factually true. It just doesn't lead an exorably to the conclusion that he's making that Biden. Joe Biden is corrupt. He said it's a fact.

Joe Biden met with an advisor to the Burisma oil company, which is where Hunter Biden was on the board for $50,000 a month. That's all a fact. And then after he met with the Burisma advisor when he was vice president in 2016, we're like, okay, yes. Then he worked to fire the prosecutor, the lead prosecutor in Ukraine, because he was getting too close to barisma

and the corruption, which was the Biden family in barisma. Okay, stop. Joe Biden's very public about this and very transparent about it. Well, then you can say about Joe Biden in 50 years in office. He was the youngest Senator we've ever elected and the oldest president. Okay, you may not like Joe Biden, not not on our show, but in general, you may not like Joe Biden, but, but he's not corrupt. And he's very transparent. He's not a black box, if you will. So he was very public about this.

He's not a black box, if you will. So, he was very public about this. He did meet with the Burisma advisor. He was vice president at the time. By the way, vice presidents don't set policy. Little known fact the Republicans seem to forget. He was the ambassador, if you will, the vice president for a president called Barack Obama. So, whatever Barack Obama's policies were, that's what Joe Biden was out doing. So he met with Burisma and yes, he did.

Yes, it's, we'll admit it. He put pressure on Ukraine to fire that prosecutor. Why? Because the British, the allies, the international monetary fund all wanted that prosecutor removed because of corruption that he was not pursuing the opposite of the argument or the narrative by the Republicans. It's because the guy wasn't chasing crime that they wanted him removed. It's a sit-look, Ukraine's got that problem right now.

Zelensky is still dealing with major corruption and he's just firing people in his cabinet left and right because of it. It is a problem endemic to Ukraine. And it has been going on for quite some time, including in 2016. But everyone of our allies and every one of the NGOs, the non-governmental organizations like the IMF wanted this guy gone because they didn't say he was corrupt, but he wasn't pursuing corruption. Let's leave it at that. Not because he was going after barisma and getting too close to the Biden family. So Dan Goldman says, all right, everything you just said, Mr. Comer about this link between the prosecutor and Joe Biden, all this, it's 100% categorically false.

Now, then he leaned back. It's like the rope adope that Joe Biden did at the state of the union. He leaned back and he let Comer lean in. And Comer leaned in and said, you know, they always have this ceremonial kabuki theater when they're in their house. Is the fine gentleman from New York sure about that? Then Goldman just unleashed his right hand onto Comer and said, yes, basically there's one person in this room and it's not you, Comer, who knows more about Trump, the corruption of Trump and Ukraine and the whole Biden issue than me, because I was the lawyer for the House, House impeachment managers about Ukraine.

So he pulled out his pad. He said, let me read you all the conclusions that were reached based on the facts, including the, we have forgotten about this because there's been so many other crimes committed by Donald Trump. What are the original crimes? The quid pro quo where he tried to force then newly elected president Zelensky into opening a, this is Trump opening a prosecution against Joe Biden and against a hundred Biden and barisma, or he wouldn't give him the $400 million eight package. And that is the reason, you know, we already had, and it's a friend of the show. He's been on the show with you and the brothers, Lieutenant Colonel Vittman testified. He soon as he heard that quid for a quote, he went and raised and reported

it as a violation of law. And that's one of the reasons of the many that Trump got impeached. So Dan Goldman said, sure, let me lay out my case. This is another example of the Republicans, too smart by half, leading with their chin and getting knocked out by a counter punch by a very primed and ready to go set of Democrats. So that went really terribly. So terribly that Comer, when he got punched in the face, said, oh, I think it's time for a bathroom break. It literally took a bathroom break,

which is like, you know, the tennis player that's getting his ass kicked and has to take the 20-minute bathroom break to kind of change the way the game is going. And they came back and he moved on to other topics. And we joked about this. You know, doesn't need this job, the way the game is going. And they came back and he moved on to other topics. And we joked about this. You know, who doesn't need this job,

but does it so masterfully as a patriot? Dan Goldman. Dan Goldman is one of the wealthiest congressmen or congress people in the house. He is an heir to the Levi Strauss, Levi Jeans fortune. His great grandfather found it Levi's. He's worth $250 million. He doesn't need this.

He does it for a reason, the same reason you and I do it because we're trying to protect democracy. And if they thought letting some Democrats out of the panel that were handpicked by Hikem Jeffries, they'd be able to control the narrative. It's going terribly for the Republicans. You want to know what winning looks like? This is winning from the minority position of the Democrats. And you got the same problem on the Twitter side, Ben. What did you think about the Twitter executives? Basically, as Jamie Raskin said, confirming there was no collusion between the administration and Twitter, the Twitter for its own self-interest and its own survival instinct decided not to run certain stories because they were misinformation. In fact, if there was any administration trying to influence Twitter, it was the Trump administration

consistently over everything, over almost any insult that came Donald Trump's way. One of them was a Chrissy Teigen insult where Trump had the government demand that Twitter take down a Chrissy Teigen post because she called him a mean name. And so again, everything that Trump accused and everything, Maggie Republicans accused Democrats of, there's not only no evidence to support it, but all of the evidence is that the Maggie Republicans were doing it. In fact, what we learned from the Twitter hearings is that the Twitter actually, because

the Maggie Republicans try to basically like play the refs, right, and try to intimidate the refs so that the refs can rule in their favor, Twitter changed a lot of its existing policies to not remove Donald Trump and other MAGA Republicans because they violated the decency policies so much. Twitter's like we have to make exceptions for it because these are government officials. So they actually went out of their way to allow things that were per se violations of Twitter policies. And these aren't conservative ideas.

That's why I say never call these MAGA Republicans conservative. It's not like they're being removed from Twitter because they have a certain view about economic policy or tax cuts. These are maniac human beings who are attacking survivors of school shootings. These are maniacs who are defaming victims of school shootings. These are maniacs spreading COVID disinformation. These are maniacs who are platforming

Vladimir Putin conspiracies. These are maniacs who are saying horrific and racist things. And if anybody else said it, they should be removed from a platform. Like, could you imagine people talk about oh, Twitter is a town square. You know, Marjorie Taylor Greene enters into the town square and starts saying all of the things she says on Twitter, oh, wait a minute.

She does. She does do that now in the house of representatives. We saw her dress like a spy balloon. This isn't me making fun of her outfit. This is what her team said. This was the feather boa outfit. Yeah, her own office said she wanted to dress up like the Chinese spy balloon and then she proceeded to yell the whole time and these mega Republicans yelling at President Biden's most incredible

speech I've ever seen in the history of like states of the Union speeches as he just did exactly what the Democrats did here in these committee hearings. Because these mega Republicans though, they also underestimate Democrats. And why I said in the front like they think they're shit don't stink or I called it their fascist farts or whatever I called it though, it's because they live in their own echo chamber, which is not a world of decency. In a world of decency, you say any of these things at a corporation, you get fired, big, big company big big company small company nonprofit and not because you're getting Cancels it's because you're a raceful hateful bigoted conspiracy theorist and and that's not a way you can work

With individuals and human beings you're acting like a basement dwelling for Chan Conspiracy theorist Nazi in public. Yeah, you should be fired. That's not being canceled. That's being held accountable. That's what's happening. But, Ben, that's how they got elected. That's their constituency. That's what they run on. So, of course, they're going to act like that. But, you know, you said you just one thing about the speech. Yes, he gave a great speech, Joe Biden, certainly one of the more memorable ones. But he was best on his feet when he rope a dope them at the end to get the Republicans to commit to Medicare and other social safety net things, because they weren't expecting

that he would have the ability off the cuff to ad-lib as effectively as he did. He lured them in to a trap that they didn't see coming because they're so busy, it's so easy to sit in the back like you're a sophomore in high school, you don't like the show that's being put on at the stage. Lawyer, and then he's like, oh really? Let's talk about that, but off script, which is where I know I talk to people about this,

and I know his handlers were probably getting white knuckle to that moment, but he was the best off script. If you don't think an 80 year old has the Vim and vigor to run for office and reelection, you have a match up. I'd. Yeah. And you saw these Magger Republicans exposing themselves at the state of the union, exposing themselves at these committee hearings. Again, every accusation was something that they did. And in that format, Democrats are just crushing them. They might as well have been Democrat hearings showing what maniacs the mega Republicans are to the country. How incredible

was that to see. We also broke some news here on the Midas Touch Network. I have that show with the, it's called political beat down that I do now with Michael Cohen. We do it live Tuesdays at 9 a.m. Pacific 12 Eastern and then Thursdays as well 9 a.m. 12 Eastern morning and early afternoon if you're on the East Coast. And look, I mean, to have one Cohen's become like a great friend of mine. I love Cohen. And I think that his maya culpa is something that's gonna go down in history and how he now speaks the truth and stands for good is something that I think is great. He's also breaking news and he's the key witness in a lot of these cases right now that are

taking place against Donald Trump. So we told us he was going to be speaking with him in Hatton D.A. Alvin Bragg's investigation is heating up. One way we know Alvin Bragg's investigation is heating up is that Cohen keeps on testifying there. So the fact that Cohen's now met, this was the second time he's met with Alvin Bragg. It's 15th overall. And he told us he'll be meeting the 16th time very soon with Alvin Bragg. It's 15th overall and he told us he'll be meeting the 16th time very soon

with Alvin Bragg. To me, I could tell you with not because Cohen said anything, if you just analyze what Alvin Bragg is doing, that the timing of the grand jury, if I didn't even know Cohen, the fact that Cohen keeps on showing back up, that Alvin Bragg indictment I believe hits before the summer, but Alvin Bragg indictment, I believe, hits before the summer, but Alvin Bragg is definitely going to be indicting Donald Trump individually. And it could be more, I hope it's more than just the stormy Daniels, Donald Trump's paying hush money to a porn star who he had sex with while his wife was pregnant. This is the Maggar of Publicans person, but covering that up, having co-in pay, writing it off the way Trump did as a legal expense.

It's kind of a slam dunk, you know, I guess there's no case that's a slam dunk case, but it's a very strong case. But I hope that there's more to the case as well than just that one charge, but he's going to be indicted. Donald Trump, I have no doubt about it. Anything else you want to add, Popak about Cohen? I think they, well, not about Cohen. We've talked about it in a number of places, but I think Alvin Bragg needs one more piece

of the puzzle, one more thing to fall into place, one more shoot a drop before he indicts. And he's holding out hope of hope that the continued squeezing of Alan Weiselberg sitting 12 miles away at Riker's Island from the Manhattan DA's office is going to bear some more fruit. He needs, I believe he needs Alan Weiselberg in a courtroom, not for the indictment, maybe for the indictment. Not the indictment you probably could get, to be honest, you probably get the indictment right now.

If Michael Cohen testifies, and all signs are that he's being primed and prepped to go into the grand jury, I mean, these are nice meetings. Michael gets a report about them on your show. I've watched the reason one, Riven talks about what he talked about, which is interesting. But having said that, he's got to go in.

It's not enough. You can't indict without him going into the room and giving that some version of his testimony to a grand jury, a special grand jury of 23 people sitting in Manhattan. I believe they need an aloe iselberk for a number of reasons. We like Michael a lot, but he comes with some baggage as a witness because of his prior convictions and his prior felonies. And so, Alouisalberg also a convicted felon is the other end. It puts it inside the Trump office at that very time. So, Michael, as we know, set up an LLC, a company because Donald Trump told him to do it, paid money that looked like it was his own money

through that company to store me Daniels and to others, and then got reimbursed as legal expenses, or legal retainer on the books and records of the company. That would have gone through Donald Trump and I'll a Weisselberg according to Michael Cohen. I, you're never gonna get Donald Trump to testify. I think you need Weisselberg. I don't, at a trial, I don't think they get a conviction of, in the Stormy Daniels matter,

just with Michael Cohen. That's, you may not agree with me, but I believe there needs to be, and one more witness to corroborate and to kind of rehabilitate Michael when he's invariably cross-examined on some of his credibility issues. Yep. We will keep you posted there when there when we get more information there. And finally, Popaka, I want to talk about Dominions $1.6 billion defamation lawsuits that to go to trial mid April, right around the corner.

There was a status conference this week. You did a great breaking news hit on what took place there. Seems that Fox has not been that forthcoming with its documents would be putting it as an understatement. But what we do know already though was like, Dominions now got the deposition of Murdoch and Locklin and Murdoch's, the Rupert's son, Rupert, all of the executives at Fox,

they've gotten those depots, all of the key anchors, and they all knew. None of them believed Donald Trump. They all were aware that this was a big lie, and that's what they privately testify under oath. I certainly hope Dominion does not settle this lawsuit because I think it's important that we see Hannity take the stand, that we see Tucker take the stand, that we see these people and I do hope there's a camera in the courtroom. It's in Delaware Superior Court, so I don't know their

rules about Cam sure the media will petition, but I hope there is transparency so far. I don't like that the judge has kept a lot of things under seal and confidential. And I know it's a high profile case that I don't think should be confidential and and under seal. I get that there are prominent things in the case, but I still think that there should be a public access to these files. It's not proprietary information emails by people like Hannity and Tucker and people showing that they're spreading disinformation. I think that needs to see the sunlight. But tell us about why Fox is doing more than just not wanting existing documents to see the sunlight, but look like they're trying to intentionally destroy or spuliate records. Yeah, so let's frame it first.

We're in the Delaware Superior Court, not the Delaware Chance Record of Equity that you and I often talk about like when Elon Musk had his lawsuit in Delaware, that was in a different courthouse. I will tell you that practicing trial lawyers like me like the Delaware Superior Court to go try cases. It's a very favorable place for a plaintiff and a plaintiff's lawyer overall. It's often referred to a little bit as the wild wild west. And Eric Davis, who's the judge presiding over it, who came out of an old firm that I used to work with.

But back when I started my career is he's just trying to get this case ready for trial. And I think one of the reasons he hasn't, as of yet, stripped the ceiling off the SEAL, the SEAL off documents and let them go into the public. And I'll tell you where the fight is right now, that news media is trying to get to certain documents, which is different than the topic of the segment, or the main topic of the segment, is Fox News is

still hiding documents on personal servers, on hard drives, and aboard minutes, two months from trial, which I got to tell you is supremely unusual that they're still arguing two months from trial about so many categories of documents that Fox News hasn't turned over. Now Dan Webb, the trial lawyer, kind of infamous, famous trial lawyer, brought in by Fox News late to try the case when it looked like there wasn't going to be any settlement. He said, well, you know, both sides have that problem. I just got 70,000 pages of damages documents from the other side. So, Judge, we're both doing it. But, you know, that kind of what about is him usually does not fly in a courtroom. Like, well, we did it, but what about what

they did? That's not why we're here, Mr. Webb. We're here about why haven't you, why isn't you're a client two months from trial and after the close of discovery or close to the close of discovery process? Why haven't you turned over these key documents? Where are they? And if they're missing, as you said, been earlier in the show, then we have destruction of evidence or what we call in the business spoliation, which is all another hornet's nest that you don't want to open if you're the Fox News. They better hope they still have and have preserved the documents that are missing. And what we're not really talking about is a failure to properly preserve high, destroyed

documents because that is a whole other world. They do not want to be in two months from trial. And on the, you know, the judge is doing a balancing act. He knows there's going to be a jury. He knows the jury's going to be picked in about two months. And I think he's concerned that with the, that's so much got filed by both sides, under seal both sides. The thing that the newspapers and media companies like NPR, New York Times and others are going

after is that there were competing motions that were filed about two or three months ago. Fox corporation and all the foxes filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, but but attached almost like in summary judgment format, like looking for a final judgment dismiss the lawsuit, but attached almost like in summary judgment format, like looking for a final judgment on the pleadings without having to go all the way to a trial. Thousands of pages of documents, emails to show, and just to put it on the table, the fight in this defamation libel case for 1.6 billion

is not whether these things got set on the air by the, you know, the Jeanine Piro's, Bartiromo's, Tucker Carlson's or Hannities. They said it. They said the Dominion voting machines had software that flipped votes from Trump to Biden created for the Venezuela election process by the Chinese. I mean, it was crazy stuff. It got said on the air on their shows. But if it didn't get said with what's called actual malice, a legal term, meaning the person that said it, one of these commentators knew that what he was saying or she was saying

was false or with reckless disregard as to whether it was true or false, that gets you, that's jackpot. That gets you defamation of a company by dominion because media companies want to always hide behind the first amendment. Everything that's protected by the first amendment, which is true up to a point and that point under a line of cases we call New York Times V Sullivan is actual, actual malice. So that's the fight. What did people know at the time that they made the statements on air? It's already been leaked that Hannity

never believed the big lie, it's a big surprise. Yet promoted it and pushed it frequently, including against dominion voting systems on his show. If that's true, that is an element, a badge of actual malice for Fox to put on in front of the jury. And so they filed that motion to dismiss with all those documents, Fox, but the plaintiff filed a motion for summary judgment saying, we don't even need a trial judge. All of these facts are stipulated or are not disputed.

And based on this, we've proven actual malice. We don't even need a jury trial. And to do that, they had to attach all of these documents stamp confidential and sealed by Fox. So, of course, that's like amazing fodder for the media companies. They want to get their hands on all these filings and all these attachments so they can do reporting. But the judge is balancing that against. I'm picking a jury at about two months. And I don't

eat this case tried in the New York Times, NPR where the mightest touch network. POPOC, great analysis, but we're definitely going to be covering one of the mightest touch network when the trial happens. When the trial happens, and I'm going to be able to keep that stuff secret anymore. And I think sunlight's the best disinfected to fascism. And that's what we do here on the minus touch network bring sunlight here, whether it's on the legal AF show, the minus touch brother show, political beat down or any of our other programs the weekend show.

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