Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Jack Smith RIPS TRUMP APART with his OWN WORDS

Episode Date: October 19, 2024

In a special report about the 1889 pages of evidence just made public against Trump in the DC election interference criminal case, Popok does a deep cut into all of Trump’s tweets used against him, ...and comes up with.. Special Counsel Jack Smith trolling Trump —using a Meidas Touch “ LOSER” tweet as evidence! Popok breaks down all the other tweets and explains how they are being used to keep the indictment alive. Cook Unity: Go to https://cookunity.com/LEGALAF or enter code LEGALAF before checkout for 50% OFF your first week! Join the LegalAF Patreon: https://Patreon.com/legalAF Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 This is Michael Popak for Legal AF. I found it! I went through the entire haystack of 1,889 pages that have now been disclosed to the public in the D.C. election interference case against Donald Trump and I have found it. Jack Smith's shout out to the Midas Mighty and the illegal AFers and the Midas Touch Network, because he put in his evidence an actual retweet by Donald Trump of a Midas Touch photo of Times Square showing that the winner was Joe Biden with the headline Loser. And Donald Trump had a comment about that. And it was included
Starting point is 00:01:42 in the data dump now in the public domain, meaning Jack Smith's going to either be using it to help keep his superseding indictment alive against the immunity determination or he's just effing with Donald Trump and it gave a little bit of a subway sandwich under the arm, lunch pail and thermos in the hand. Shout out to the Midas Touch Network. Either way, I want to cover here one slice of what I learned in my second pass through 1,889 pages. The whole section in volume two of the four-part appendix, sounds like a Netflix special,
Starting point is 00:02:19 devoted to Donald Trump's tweets. The best of Donald Trump's tweets. That's where, of course, I found the Midas Touch one. Let me focus on that first because I want to. So, what was that? I'm going through everything and we're gonna put it up on the screen. And I see the Midas Touch logo.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I told Leish McGully, we've made the big time. And there is a reproduction for those that are following at home. It's in the second volume, page 103 of 246. And it says a picture of the, actually, I said Times Square, that's actually 30 Rock in New York, where they projected Biden the winner. I think that was actually of a certain state and Midas wrote loser all in caps. And then Donald Trump had this to say in response. I don't know why, but we have some big things happening in our various litigations on the election hoax.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Everybody knows it was rigged. They know Biden didn't get more votes for the black community than Obama. Certainly didn't get 80 million votes. Look what happened in Detroit, Philadelphia, plus please whatever he's trying to say. I love that that's in there. Why is that in there? First, let me do a little backup for those that are coming into the story just now. Jack Smith filed because he had to 165 page brief detailing in excruciating detail, the amount of evidence he had and the arguments that he had against Donald Trump to show that none of his actions
Starting point is 00:03:55 that are in the superseding indictment, which Jack Smith obtained after the July 1st decision by the Supreme Court. He had the benefit of the Supreme Court's decision on immunity. He then got a new grand jury to issue a new indictment against Donald Trump mindful of the teachings of that decision, Trump versus US on July 1st. He gets the superseding indictment after July 1st. Then Donald Trump says, well, all of everything in there is immune. Not quite. There's three
Starting point is 00:04:22 types of analyses that have to be done by Judge Judkin according to Judge Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts decision. What is core absolute presidential authority or conduct, which is given absolute immunity? There's very few things that fall in that bucket and none, I would argue, the superseding indictment.
Starting point is 00:04:41 What is official conduct stretched to its outer boundaries, which is given a presumption of immunity, but that can be overcome by the prosecutor showing that it shouldn't be immune conduct, it's criminal conduct, it's private, it's personal. And then personal conduct, which is prosecutable. That's how we got here. 165 pages filed, Donald Trump says, yeah, put a pin on that. I'll file mine after the election. Then Jack Smith says, yeah, but I have a four-volume appendix with 1889 pages of documents and information and evidence supporting my 165 pages. And Donald Trump said, whoa, we don't want to see that. Don't do that before the, I don't need that before the election. But we've got public
Starting point is 00:05:23 access, First Amendment rights of the public to see everything before the election. And so Judge Chutkin finally, finally after giving Donald Trump one last reprieve, she pulled the switch and released to the public today. And so we're making our way through 1,889 pages, although a lot of the pages, about 70% are sealed away and still redacted, subject to further removal. But I've seen what I wanted to see. So in there, they are trying to prove that the actions of Donald Trump are criminal in nature that overcome the official conduct of somebody, especially if these are events
Starting point is 00:05:58 out after he was president, after he left office. There's a number of pieces of evidence about comments and statements and tweets that he made when he was no longer president. Can't be official conduct. And then you've got the things that happen where he's just like campaigner in chief trying to cling to power. And I think this falls into that category.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This Midas touch little beauty, my little golden nugget for my hot take. I think that's why this is in here. That and I think he wanted to F with Donald Trump and stick it to him with Midas touch. So what else do we have, Bopak? All right, we got other stuff. We've got the back and forth between Chris Krebs, who was the director of cybersecurity. He was the CISA, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Administration, which was responsible to make sure that the election's integrity was preserved and were
Starting point is 00:06:49 secure. He announced right after on November 17th, he announced to the world in a social media posting, while he was still the head of CISA, that on allegations that election systems were manipulated, 59 election security experts all agree, in every case of which we are aware, these claims either have been unsubstantiated or are technically incoherent. That scientists have no credible evidence of computer fraud in the 2020 election, but policymakers must work with experts to improve confidence. He also said this was the safest, most secure election ever. Donald Trump didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And then he undermined him, Chris Krebs, before he fired him. And here's what he said in a tweet on November the 18th, the following day. The recent statement by Chris Krebs, it's blacked out, but it's Chris Krebs, on the security of the 2020 election was highly inaccurate in that there were massive improprieties and fraud,
Starting point is 00:07:50 including dead people voting, poll watchers not allowed into polling locations, glitches of the voting machines, which changed votes from Trump to Biden, late voting and many more. Therefore, effective immediately, Chris Krebs, has been terminated as director of cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency.
Starting point is 00:08:06 That's how Chris found out he got fired, in a tweet. And there you have them. And that's important because Donald Trump, by this point, remember, this is not all the evidence against Donald Trump, this just was what was necessary on this exercise. There's lots more evidence. But by November 17th, he already had credible evidence from people in his administration, his inner circle,
Starting point is 00:08:25 people he hired to investigate fraud, that there was no fraud outcome determined to fraud in the election, that there were no dead people voting. There were no all that list of things that he said happened to make the election be in doubt. Yet he still continued to do that and fired the person Chris Krebs who spoke truth to power.
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Starting point is 00:11:27 or enter code Legal AF before checkout for 50% off your first week. That's 50% off your first week by using code Legal AF or going to cookunity.com slash Legal AF. Then you've got the set of texts, I'm sorry, tweets that are the pressure campaign about Mike Pence. But first, we got to relive the ones that he did while he was sitting in the dining room watching the Capitol burn on Jan 6th.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Right at the moment where all of his advisors and lawyers flew into the dining room, one at a time and all together to try to convince Donald Trump to do the right thing and stop the several thousand people before any of the five people, Capitol police and others died. Before hundreds of Capitol police were injured, Donald Trump had an opportunity as only he could to blow the bullhorn and blow the whistle and get those people out of there. They wanted him to write an email or a tweet or make a public statement in which he did that. Instead, this is what he wrote right at the wrong moment when it was going to tip over into a major pitched medieval battle for the soul of democracy or it was going to just peter out and everybody
Starting point is 00:12:43 was going to leave. Here's what he wrote. These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election, victory, that's for Trump, is so unceremoniously, viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love, in peace, remember this day forever. Is that helpful? That's going to tamp down or is that going to be kerosene or gasoline or rocket fuel on the flames and the passions?
Starting point is 00:13:15 It was so bad that even Dan Scavino, close confidant of Donald Trump, ran in there and said, you see those smoke coming out of the Capitol? That's on your watch. That's your legacy. What are you going to do about it? He's like, well, Chris, that's what happens. And he almost started to paraphrase this tweet. Now, Dan Scavino is interesting. He's going to testify against Donald Trump, even though you can't tell it from his social media posts, where he still looks like a Trumper, but he is. And he
Starting point is 00:13:37 used to write the mean tweets for Donald Trump when Donald Trump didn't. So people are like, God, he's so prolific. Look at all these mean tweets he's doing in all these different hours. Some of that, a lot of that was Dan Scavino. And Scavino was heading out of the dining room area off the Oval Office and when this tweet went out, bing, it buzzed on everybody's device in the inner sanctum of Donald Trump and they all ran ready to wring Chris Krebs' neck because they know he was the last one to talk to Trump. They said, are you insane? That's not what he's supposed to write right now. Or no, did you? No, I'm sorry. Did you write that, Chris? Did you write that scavino? Because that's not what's supposed to be written. And he said, I didn't write it, meaning don't
Starting point is 00:14:20 blame me. We know who wrote it. This is what happens when a sacred landslide election victory So and ceremoniously viciously stripped away from great patriots. Keep it up guys. Love you. That's what it says and then later When he starts to think better of it and it rages on This is oh This is like, you know six seven o'clock at night I'm asking for everyone at the US Capitol to remain peaceful. To remain peaceful?
Starting point is 00:14:49 That suggests they were peaceful to begin with. He's got the reports. He's watching MSNBC. He's tweeting away and looking at social media. He knows it's not peaceful. No violence. Too late. This is like closing the door after the cow is left.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Remember, we are the party of law and order. Respect the law and our great men and women in blue. Thank you. There wasn't a lot of respecting of Metropolitan Police and Capitol Police at that moment. There was a lot of bashing of their brains in with their own shields and batons and any random object that they could get their hands on from flagpoles to bike racks to wooden poles. There was a lot of bear spray being sprayed in their face. If that's what you meant by respect, then that's what was going on. That's another tweet by Donald
Starting point is 00:15:39 Trump. Then at the end of the, oh, this is like really at the end, please support our Capitol Police and law enforcement. They're truly on the side of our country. Yeah, okay. So that's in there. Then there's the pressure campaign against Mike Pence, suggesting that Mike Pence has the power to overturn the results of the American people. And Mike Pence can not agree not to certify
Starting point is 00:16:02 and turn it over to the states and all the pressure campaign. And that's all there as well. So my first, look, this was 1,889 pages. I've got about 400 pages of stuff that I'm making my way through, but I didn't want to wait till I was done. I wanted to, as I do each section, I wanted to get on here with a hot take here on Legal AF and on the Midas Touch Network and bring it to you. Now let me end the hot take this way and remind you, this is not a trial in the box. This is not all the evidence that Jack Smith has. It's not even close. It's about one issue, whether Donald Trump is immune or whether any of his actions are prosecutable. That has to be determined first by Judge Chutkin because the Supreme Court says so, then an appellate court,
Starting point is 00:16:42 then the United States Supreme Court ultimately again. He just put the bare minimum, just enough of what he needs, Jack Smith, to prove that his superseding indictment survives the immunity determination. No more, no less. We don't have the 100, all of the witness statements for all of the people, but a lot of it is still undercover. I can't tell you what exactly. There's so many pages of redaction and sealing. I'm sure there's grand jury statements in there. I just can't see them. I can't report on them yet.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Over time, they'll be revealed to the public as these people testify, but not now, right? But we know there's 77 witnesses at least. They're numbered that way in the 165 page brief by Jack Smith. I don't have the witness statements for brief by Jack Smith. I don't have the witness statements for any of them available. I've got an excerpt from Mike Pence's book, So Help Me God, which he talks about his conversations with the president,
Starting point is 00:17:34 but I don't have Mike Pence's witness statement. I've got 17 witness transcripts of interviews from the Jan 6 committee and I can sort of piece together over time and I will on these hot takes of who it is and what they're saying. I said this on an earlier hot take, this is like walking into a kitchen and seeing 500 ingredients for a five course meal laid out in the kitchen, just sitting there. And then for the big bucks, for the $100,000, you have to look around and guess the actual recipe and how and in what proportions, in what measurements, what order and how high to put the oven. I mean, it would be impossible. So we only know, and we don't even have the whole meal.
Starting point is 00:18:15 We have like one course and then we have to guess the other five courses. This is at best a trailer for the coming attraction of the trial at best. So don't be concerned like, where's this and where's that? Why don't we know that? We know a lot of it. A lot of this was publicly available. Then I think Jack Smith sort of sided on, let me give him the publicly available stuff. I don't want to give them the hot docs, the hot exhibits that I'm keeping in my back pocket once the
Starting point is 00:18:39 superseding indictment is sort of stamped with their seal of approval and I can try this case. He's turned all the documents over to Donald Trump, so I don't want you to think he's sandbagging anybody, but he doesn't know how they're going to use him. He doesn't have the playbook. He just knows there are plays in the playbook, and that's, I think, where the prosecutor wants to leave the defense at this point. Well, follow it all. You're here on Legal AF and the Midas Touch Network.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I got great news. You can see from the volume of information and data at the intersection of law and politics, we can't do it all on Midas Touch alone. So Midas Touch and Legal AF got together and formed Legal AF MTN for Midas Touch Network. Come over there, I'm the chief curator. I'm putting together all of the content and information.
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